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Speaker 1: Sam got cot spiraling.

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Speaker 2: He was crashing out.

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Speaker 3: His handler couldn't even help Sam schoume out. Whoa Well,

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you need to back down.

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Speaker 1: Time to go home, clown, pack it.

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Speaker 4: Up and take a seat.

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Speaker 5: Snow boys camp having me bollo, Sam Shot Own, you

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need to sit down taking on snack John Ruslams.

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Speaker 6: Didn't love you. Now you're commencing and nothing.

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Speaker 7: Sam, Sam and Sam what you've done to you?

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Speaker 2: Producing things?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 8: Take seat? Slow boys can rot me.

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Speaker 9: Oh wow, Sam Shot you need to sit down taking

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no slack jobs? Did probay you? Now? I can me

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see it's.

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Speaker 7: Not Sam Sam sad, but you've done to you.

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Speaker 4: Piggy pay Piggy.

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Speaker 10: Don't make me go back to that ninety five Waite

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shot tage, No way to be alive. Don't make me

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go back to ninety five Waite shock tage, No way

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to be alive?

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Speaker 6: Bo pay, Biggy, just give me.

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Speaker 11: One moss of jacket.

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Speaker 6: Pay Biggy, just give me one more super chance pay Piggy,

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just give me one more subtch pay Piggy, just give

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me one boom with.

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Speaker 12: My boot one on one missed to any mixed free

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years we had the baby. She went as such. She

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won good cheek, gotta lay down on my pants on

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the lamber because she don't like my bother. No, she

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got a diamond grip and a baby teeth. Coolest kid

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in Lucy. But you know I'm not a matterry Yello list,

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Nadi yell list. I float with the transcendental. I give

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me leading Viggenstein, investigate my girl philosophically.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 12: I just want the money.

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Speaker 6: He Leggy, just give me one more chet, Hey, Giggy,

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just give me one more super jets. Hey, Giggy, just give.

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Speaker 4: Me one more sum Hey.

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Speaker 6: Piggy, Yeah, just give me one.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it up.

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Speaker 13: I'm sitting a video girl. I want my heart once

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you win my work. I see you in the souper chet.

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I see you want to go from me. I see

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you want the only fans and you got my heart

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in your hand. Please don't crush your girl. I understand

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the IMO still, but I'm proud. I'm a geek, but

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I'm proud and I want to feel your breast at

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a convention.

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Speaker 8: I want my picture.

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Speaker 13: You grew up in my ass, to be on social media.

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I want my friends to see it on Discord I'm

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gonna upload it to myself bread and.

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Speaker 11: They all go see it.

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Speaker 13: My friends, They're gonna like it, they're gonna retweet it.

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But I think that it's gonna be the greatest moment

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of my lap And I want you to be a

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part of a girl.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, don't make me.

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Speaker 10: Go back to that's ninety five way shock age, No

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way to be alive.

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Speaker 8: Don't make me go to ninety five.

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Speaker 4: Way shock age, No way.

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Speaker 10: To be alive.

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Speaker 4: They just give me one whole chack.

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Speaker 6: Just give me one more super chance pay. Piggy, just

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give me one more suit matcham pay, Jiggy, just give

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me one boy, Biggy, just give me one moss of

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a jack take Giggy, just give me one more super

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chance Pay. Piggy, just give me one more suit matcham pay, Jiggy,

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just give me one.

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Speaker 4: I can't hear you.

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Speaker 11: Let me hear you say it.

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Speaker 13: Let me hear you say fuck cloud swab, fuck cloud schwab.

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Speaker 12: Let me hear you say too.

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Speaker 8: And the winner is gething.

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Speaker 14: They can bring the bull together agains with you, But

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where it begins with you, not give I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna say go where he goes away from.

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Speaker 14: The dance golf, bankers.

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Speaker 7: Get him on the floor.

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Speaker 4: Bankers speak, people bought, bankers, give me pain. Bankers given name,

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get turn her your name. I want to see you.

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Speaker 14: Ask the more see yea, I'm talking to you. Get

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more hoes, get more pain, get more boots, give my leave.

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I want to see the see you more.

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Speaker 4: It nice to the peak ruin those slides, and one

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hundred and forty one b begins.

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Speaker 9: Oh.

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Speaker 4: Cool, your name, name, name, name, your name, name name, day,

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your day?

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Speaker 6: Shake shake, take that shake all right, Peggy, middle plants.

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Speaker 4: See egos, get on your toes. You'll face what's it?

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Just face? I want to see the baker on the floor.

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I want to see you ask the poor. Make it clap,

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make it clap, shake that the chest for.

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Speaker 11: Uh yeah, what's up? Y'all? Welcome to another stream. We're

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gonna have fun today, not a heated, heavy hot thing

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that comes later tonight. Buffer real. So, in the midst

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of all the drama, isn't it funny that the actual

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offer to debate is ignored? As you may be aware,

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I have continued to simply offer to actually just have debates.

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Speaker 15: We know.

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Speaker 11: Last night I called three times on Skype. I suggested

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that everyone go over to the Crucible. Nobody wanted to

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do that. Now this keep in mind, they said they

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wanted to debate on the Crucible. I offered here Kai

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and I offered the debate Shimwann and Albert on the

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Crucible on their inconsistent Assyrian Church of the East position

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and pre post Vatican to contradictions. The debate must be

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formal with cross examinations on the Crucible. Now, keep in mind,

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Shamoun himself said that he wants a debate set up

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on the Crucible. Remember that all bricks said he's willing

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to debate me on any topic. So he says, I

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get to pick the topic. I'm trying to find that post.

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Let's see, I'm not going to spend today's whole stream

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on the drama I just want to point out the

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more recent stuff today and then we'll go into we

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will go into the other clips, debates, discussions that are

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hot on the internet right now. So let me see

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if somebody posted here, I think it's done here where

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they said they would like to do it on the Crucible.

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So we're agreeing to do it on the Crucible. Yeah,

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here it is Tell the dog gay liar to debate

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Albrecht in the near future instead of the last minute.

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So the offer was given a right. So this is

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to the crucible.

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Speaker 4: See that.

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Speaker 11: To the Crucible. Tell him to debate. Here's the offer,

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Kai and I will debate on the cruise bowl. What's

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their response, No, it's got to be on something else,

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one to one, on some rando. Nobody even knows Catholic channel.

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But last night you said it could be on the

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Crucible at any time, and I get to pick the topic.

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Albrit has always said he will I'll debate Ja on

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any topic. But this is the same rigormarole that has

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always happened with Albrick. I showed you twenty nineteen, twenty

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twenty the text messages when I tried to set up

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a debate with him at that time. He would say,

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give me six months. I need six months. Six months later,

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oh give me another three months. I need more time,

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give me more time. I got a lot going on

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in my life. So this is the rigamarole that they do,

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and it shows that they never had the intention of

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actually having a debate. They don't want to discuss the

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actual subjects. They want to have all of this meltdown

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drama so that people will be so disgusted with interacting

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with them they can then say, oh, look they ran,

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they ran. And so I've just continued to be pressing

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for a debate on the Crucible. Why would I debate

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on some rando Catholic channel when Shamoon himself said we

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can debate on the Crucible. The Crucible is one of

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the largest fastest growing debate channels on YouTube. Why would

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I go to some rando no name Catholic channel to debate.

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It doesn't make any sense and it's just them looking

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for reasons and excuses. So when they get an actual

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will offer again. As I called three times last night,

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we went to the crew. I was willing to go

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to the Cruci Bowl last night. They won't do it.

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So they don't want to debate this and everybody knows.

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Even Shamun says he doesn't have the ability to address

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these topics. Yet he's gonna teach uh on the Trinity.

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He's going to teach all this stuff, but he doesn't

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know the basics. Well, I think he might find a

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better career path over at the Discovery Channel together with

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Jason Hawes and the Ghost hunters people.

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Speaker 4: I just saw.

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Speaker 16: I swear to God, it was like a white stink

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coming right at you, behind you, behind me.

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Speaker 4: Behind your vack.

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Speaker 11: Watch how incredibly this bright light anomenally manifests out of

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the spirit box. Oh, it manifested is demonic. Anytime you

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DM somebody during a livestream, it's it's demonic. Now, last

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couple of points I'm going to say on this because

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I just want you guys to note that he's not debating. Yes,

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people didn't know. He actually believes that when there's dust

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and particles and reflections in his laptop camera, which is

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just his nasty ass catinit cat hair filled apartment, he

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thinks it's a proof of angelic entities. The orbs. The

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orbs are the dust particles that fly past his nasty

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ass apartment and that filthy ass kitchen with his with

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his weaties boxes and his pop tarts in the back there.

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So that's what we got going on. And today, unfortunately,

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he just had a complete meltdown. Here he is praying

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for the death of orthodox.

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Speaker 17: Right while seeing the splinter of the eyes of others. Stealthy,

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wicked orthobros. You guys, you are a cancer dude, may

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God cut you off prominently in Jesus name.

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Speaker 11: I don't know where he thinks he gets the authority

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to cut people off of the grace of God or

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pray for their death. This amongst the Orthodox. So you

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can see this guy is just completely I kind of

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think he's had a manic episode. Like that's a better

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explanation I think for just how weird and insane all

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of this is because I sent him one friendly message

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asking to have a debate on on the topics that

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we've actually been discussing debating for a few months now.

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Speaker 17: Are you ready for the prophecy? You guys ready, because

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he's a narcissist.

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Speaker 18: Okay, watch what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 11: So he's in preless. He thinks he has prophetic powers.

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Speaker 17: You're ready for the prophecy because I've seen this sadly,

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I have to live with this for ten years and it's.

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Speaker 18: Turned me to bitter man.

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Speaker 11: So what meant he had to live with this? And

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he's gonna say that the wife is going to divorce me,

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So he means that he had to live with it.

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The wife's divorcing him. Because he's a narcissist.

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Speaker 17: Is that what he's saying, Jay, gay liar, here is

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what's gonna happen. You're not gonna last in your marriage.

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Your marriage is gonna end.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 17: Not wishing it on you, God knows, I don't wish

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this on anyone. But because you're a sick demon, you're

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full of satan, you're scum, narcissist.

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Speaker 18: This Are you ready?

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Speaker 11: So there you go. So multiple requests attempts to set

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up a debate on the topics, and has he addressed

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anything theological? I mean, I haven't watched his dreams. You

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guys can tell me, but all I've heard is that

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it's just spewing, just hatred and venom. No addressing of

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the actual issues. So that's all he has. So there

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you go. That's all I'm gonna say on that. I

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don't know why it's so hard to set up a debate,

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but there you go. Let's get into other topics and

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let's all ponder our orbs. Let's clean our orbs. I

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just took a bath before this stream. I got my

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orbs nice and clean, so y'all can ponder that. While

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we ponder the orbs. Some interesting stuff going on on

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the Internet in terms of debates and discussions. And by

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the way, if you want to support the stream, you

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can do so via superchats. Superchats are done through stream

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labs or natively through YouTube if you prefer, if that's

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easier for you. Of course, everybody's talking about this intense debate.

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never heard of this guy. I'm I'm sure who he

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is or what his thing is, if he's a historian

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or I don't know what he is. But they get

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into this debate over Israel and Hamas and so I've

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not seen this yet, but everybody's talking about it and

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saying I need to see it. I'm also interested in

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Tucker's big interview with Lord Voldemore here, but I don't

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know if I can get away with that. Maybe I

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can play because it's a reaction to their interview. That

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might I might be able to play it. We'll see.

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So let's see what the debate is here on Israel

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Hamas and I've been reading extensively into the whole history

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of Israel and Jima debates coming up, We've got whatever podcast.

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I think I'll be going on the Hodge Twins podcast.

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we have the debate with AP after that. AP and

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I will be debating whether or not it can be

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demonstrated that ISIS and al Qaeda are essentially aided, funded, armed,

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and in a sense created. I'm not saying that Islam

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was created by the CIA. That would be stupid. Nor

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Is is a radical Islam itself created by the CIA,

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but fostered, funded, and aided by Western intelligence operations.

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Speaker 19: Experience, and I think that people have been indoctrinated by

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very bad actors into this and as a result have

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excused atrocities or will make excuses for them, make excuses.

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Speaker 11: For the people who do them.

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Speaker 19: I think in addition, it pays to the some of

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the darkest things of the regional mind as well as

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the international mind.

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Speaker 11: So this is interesting. I mean, does this critique apply

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to Middle Eastern countries as well? Do the regional does

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the regional in group preference of mind? Does that apply

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to Middle Eastern countries or is it only something that

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we have to combat in Western quote democracies. I'm curious.

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Speaker 19: The aims of Hamaz. The stated aims include the annihilation

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of the Jewish people and October the seventh, they had

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their best go doing that.

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Speaker 11: Where did Hamaz He's called it Hamaz? Where did Hamas

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come from? I have here with me Victor Ostrowski's two books,

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wherein he discusses Israel creating homos. Why would Israel cremate

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create homos? Well, if you read Ostrowski's book, and if

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you've listened to former head of Masad talk about it,

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it's very obvious why they wanted a radical, destabilizing element

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instead of the PLO. In other words, the PLO, which

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was a secular Palestine Liberation organization entity that had a

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stabilizing force. I'm not agreeing with the PLO or saying

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that they were quote good guys, but arafat in those

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in that outfit was a stabilizing force in the Palestine region.

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And Victor Strowsky admits in his books that that's not

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the policy that Israel wanted. They wanted a destabilizing force

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in Syria. That's why you've seen what's happened recently last

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few years in Syria with the toppling of Asad. They

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wanted a destabilizing force in Palestine through Hamas because that's

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a better means of control and assuring that there would

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not be any rival to Israel in the surrounding areas.

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Ostrovsky also speaks of funding these radical elements of movements

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in Jordan and Egypt as well Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, etc.

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So this is pretty well known. I think that people

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have called attention to this for a long time, but

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a lot of people just sort of ignore this in

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the West and pretend like it's not the case. And

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I guarantee you this guy is not going to mention that.

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Speaker 19: And the fact that in a decision between whether or

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not you're on the side of the people who want

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to dance and live in peace with their neighbors or

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whether you're on the side of the people who want

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to rampage through dance party bar in the early morning,

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macheteing at people. I find it amazing that there are

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so many people who don't know which side they're on,

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but there are a lot of them. There are a

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lot of reasons for that, but one of the foremost

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reasons is the fact that the state of Israel has

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been uniquely libeled, has been uniquely lied about. Its history

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has been uniquely lied about. It has been uniquely put

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under an international spotlight and then misrepresented in a way

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which I cannot think of many other countries in the

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world that have been treated that way, and there.

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Speaker 11: Are now maybe that's the case, but I'd like to

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hear what the arguments are, What specific events is he

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referring to. I mean, the nation state of Israel's is

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not that old in terms of what we think of

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as the modern nation of Israel. So what exactly is

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he referring to in this brief span of history here.

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Maybe he's correct, I'd like to know what specific examples

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though he just kind of brushes past this. In terms

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of sort of propaganda, it sounds like emotive propaganda, But

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what exactly are you talking about?

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Speaker 19: Deep reasons for it and shallow reasons for it. The

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deep reasons include some of the most ancient bigotries of

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the human heart, and the shallow reasons are people who

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don't know what the hell they're talking about.

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Speaker 6: This is the Gremium garment double forty five liter by

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half day.

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Speaker 2: It's a transforming two and one travel duffel bag for long.

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Speaker 16: Okay, I think that.

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Speaker 11: There's By the way, I do like to see kind

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of high level debates going on at this at this tier, right,

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this is something that you know, props to your Rogan

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for this, just because even though I may not agree

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with Dave Smith or this guy, it is refreshing to

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see this level of a serious type of discussion and debate.

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Even if these guys are aren't exactly the I don't know.

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I'm trying to figure out what what are they the best?

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I don't know. I don't know who would be the

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best representatives of this position. How is the audio bad?

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I don't even know what you mean. My audio is bad?

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Or the audio of the clip is bad because we

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should be good? Is that any better? Blah blah blah.

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Maybe he'll move the microphone close to me. If you're

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saying the audio is mad or bad?

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Speaker 4: Mad?

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Speaker 11: If I'm looking at orbs and I'm thinking about orbs here,

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so I'm getting distracted by the orbs. What if I

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let's see if I can get some dust particles and

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let's see if we can cause some miraculous appearances. I'll

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look at that. Is that that's the demons flying around manifesting.

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That's the bat demons manifesting. It's the bat demon's manifesting

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to fight the orbs. On Sam's channel, it's dust orb

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angelic dust orbs, right, the dust angels. But on my channel,

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it's the bat demons. Because of the manifestations that I'm engaging,

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I'm demonically manifesting, And people are saying, where did you

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get the idea that he's influenced by charismaticism? The idea

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that anyone who disagrees with you and all the events

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that are happening in your life are caused by angels

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and demons directly. That's like a charismatic one on one

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and it's also kind of a it's almost like a manic,

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insane psychosis to actually believe that. So who knows if

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he really believes that, if he's just sort of putting

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on a show for the camera, or I mean, I

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actually think he's kind of having a breakdown.

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Speaker 16: Look, I'm not going to speak for what every person

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out there believes. I don't exactly agree with like the

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characterization that there was no outpouring of like feeling after

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October seventh, and certainly, like everybody I know, was just like,

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oh my god, there's like a horrific atrocity and like

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an unprecedented terrorist attack from Hamas, the worst terrorist attack

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in Israeli history against Israelis, and it was horrible. I

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think what a lot of I'm not arguing that there

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are no people who are actually pro Hamas or there

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are no people who are actually like hate Jews or

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something like that. I do think that what happens is

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that a lot of people get put in that category

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who do not belong there. Much like we've seen this

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over the last year and a half where a lot

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of people, you know, you have John pod Horritz calling

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Thomas Massey anti Semitic scum because he said, we're dead broke,

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we can't afford to fund everybody else's war here. People

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have been calling Tucker Carlson anti Semitic all over the place,

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when these are two guys, Thomas Massey and Tucker Carlson,

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who have never uttered the words the Jews in their life,

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Like they're just not anti Semites at all. So there's

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a lot of people I think who are when they're well, what.

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Speaker 11: Does Victor Ostrowski say about this?

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Speaker 4: Again?

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Speaker 11: And his books are really good By the way, he

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has a very interesting comment on this very topic. We'll

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see what his opinion is. Let's see what Victor Ostrowski says.

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Speaker 20: Now, I know what they do because I used to

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ask them to do it. I mean, when I was

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in the Masada, we had a guy that gave us

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problems in the US, and he was speaking out and

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he was talking like Pete talked once and said Israel

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is bombing Lebanon with buster bombs.

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Speaker 4: We say, hey, who's that guy?

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Speaker 15: You know, Mkakki. We used to call him, yeah, which

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is Pete the cockroach because he makes a lot of

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noise and you can't get rid of him. So what

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you do is you in touch with the guy in

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the in the station in New York or in the

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station in Washington.

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Speaker 20: DUCA held the guys at ben Agria to label him,

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and of course the campaign starts before you know it.

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Speaker 4: The guy's laboring and he's an anti senter. Because that's

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what we say is.

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Speaker 16: Critical of the Israeli government's response to this get lumped

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in as pro Hama. I will certainly say that's certainly

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not my possession. I think your description of them deaf cult.

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used to describe Hamas, I think is an accurate one.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly. So I didn't actually know Dave Smith's position

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on Hamas or this issue, so I'm glad to see that.

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I mean, not that I thought he was like pro

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Hamas or whatever, but I would agree it's a it's

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a false dialectic, like I was supposed to choose the

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good guy between this, you know, territorial war in the

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Middle East. I mean the reality of life and warfare

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and geopolitics is that there's not going to be good

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guy bad guy in these geopolitical squabbles and disputes. Both

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sides are going to use the same methods, the same attacks,

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the same deception, the same septerfuge. But there's no reason

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why other.

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Speaker 4: Than a.

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Speaker 11: Well, let me put it this way, I would say

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both sides have a long history of mistakes. The idea

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that it needs to be ethnically cleansed is I think

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part of the problem. But also I mean, just in

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general Arab peoples, I mean, they accepted Islam centuries ago.

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So that's another problem. And I don't know why, because

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there used to be a lot of Arab Christians, especially

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the further you go back. But for some reas, and

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section of the Koran where Mohammad says, the Christians have

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their revelation for them, the Jews have their revelation for them.

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This is God's revelation for the Muslims or meane with

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the Arabs. So there's actually this sort of ethnic racial

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component within the Koran itself, although it contradicts because it

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later says, okay, now go out and conquer the world,

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because this is for everybody, But at one stage in

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the Qoran, it's actually an ethnic for the Arabs quote revelation,

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and maybe that was something that appealed to an inferiority

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complex on the part of Arabs and that people group,

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and which led them to abandon a lot of their

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Christian past and heritage. And so you get this false

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dialectic between an idiotic Islamic religion and an equal bizarre

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cult like Rabbinic religion. And sometimes they can work together

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and sometimes they hate each other. So there's really not

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a good guy bad guy in this conflict, and I'm

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well aware of the history of but we were there first,

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but then actually before them there was another group, and

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then before them there's another group. Ideally, as many have

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pointed out, I think in the twelve hundreds, what was

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the thirteenth century, this was a Byzantine place. It was

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a Byzantine kingdom. Ideally it should be a Christian kingdom

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because only christ can reconcile jew and Arab. Right, there's

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no other way for that reconciliation to occur. Without that,

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there's going to be perpetual death, hatred, and warfare.

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Speaker 16: And it was horrible.

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Speaker 11: But I oh, and by the way, I forgot to mention,

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isn't it something like one to two percent. I'm not

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trying to minimize the Christians in Palestine, but I'm pretty

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sure that it's a very small percentage are actually Orthodox Christians.

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I'm not minimizing their struggle, but I don't think that

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the plo or Hamas actually helps them. I think Hamas

473
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,159
is multiple times screwed over. The Orthodox Christians.

474
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 16: Think that the you know, I think that your characterization

475
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,199
for all that they gave the Palestinians a state in

476
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,400
two thousand and five is just wrong. I just think

477
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,559
that is not at all an accurate way to describe

478
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,000
the disengagement, which we could get into more if you

479
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,599
want to, but first of all, I would just point

480
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:36,320
out that if the two state solution was achieved, I

481
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,840
assume you're arguing it was taken away after that, you're

482
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,000
not still arguing that the Palestinians have a state or

483
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:42,480
a You're saying they have had a state since two

484
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:43,079
thousand and five.

485
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 19: They had they were given a stage in the Goaza

486
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:45,960
and when did it?

487
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 16: When was it taken away?

488
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 19: Well, they kind of screwed it up themselves on the

489
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seventh Olktobe.

490
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 16: So you're saying from two thousand and five all the

491
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,679
way till October seventh, there was a two state solution.

492
00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 11: It had been achieved.

493
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 16: Well it was another state, yeah, okay, but that would

494
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,800
be two states that it would be.

495
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,199
Speaker 19: It was different from the PA.

496
00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 16: Okay, right, But I'm saying a Palestinian state, Yeah okay.

497
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:07,519
So what's interesting about that?

498
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:12,199
Speaker 11: The other guy's like, I was obvious sophistry there because

499
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,599
he knows exactly what Smith is saying, and he's like, no,

500
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,840
it's not another it's not a second state. It's a

501
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,199
different state. Which would be a second state.

502
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 16: That is that this is not how like, this is

503
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,239
not how any of the leaders really describe it. I mean,

504
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:31,719
when Netanyaku himself is not claiming that they had already

505
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,920
achieved a two state solution, why are you talking about this?

506
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,880
What happened in two thousand and five in the disengagement

507
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,880
was that essentially Israel went from occupying the place to

508
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:43,880
surrounding the place, and they've had it under a brutal

509
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,519
blockade since two thousand and seven. And yes, you were right,

510
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:48,800
but we think, why do you?

511
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 19: I don't agree the blockade was brutal by any means.

512
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 16: Really you don't think the block now?

513
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 11: I mean, who's not familiar with the Greater Israel project?

514
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,280
I mean it was actually written about by one of

515
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,079
the aids to I think the advisor to Aeriel Charon.

516
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:06,719
Isn't that right?

517
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,119
Speaker 9: Uh?

518
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, so the you known plan was written about in

519
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:20,119
h This is not what I'm talking about?

520
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: Is this it?

521
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 4: This might be it?

522
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 13: H h.

523
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,079
Speaker 11: Mm hmm hm.

524
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 17: Hm.

525
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,199
Speaker 11: I found I found the other day the original article

526
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:07,119
written by the advisor I believe to Ariel Sharon, I'm

527
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:17,440
not talking about Hurtzel's project. Oh, let me try oded

528
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:25,480
you non plan because that will probably bring it up. Yeah,

529
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:30,360
here we go. The plan is an article published in

530
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,920
the Hebrew journal Kivunam Directions a strategy for Israel in

531
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,800
the nineteen eighties. It was pinned by odd Ynon, former

532
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,000
advisor to Aerol Sharon told you and senior official with

533
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,000
Israeli Foreign Ministry and a journalist for the Jerusalem Post.

534
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:58,639
Can we so you can't find the actual Why can

535
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:01,320
I not just get the actual article? Argument of the

536
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:07,360
paper the rationalist humanists foundations of Western civilization were going

537
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,480
to collapse. Therefore, this needed to be preserved in Israel,

538
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:16,599
and that would then work if you had an expanded Israel.

539
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:23,480
The Blueprint for the Middle East included the idea that

540
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,239
the David Accords were mistaken. One of Israel's aims for

541
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,280
the nineteen eighties would be the dismemberment of Egypt, described

542
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,119
as a corpse in order to re establish a status

543
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:38,199
quo anti When Israel controlled the Snap Peninsula, Nan helped

544
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,960
to see the formation of a Christian Coptic state. Hope

545
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,039
to see within Egypt's borders. So you notice right away

546
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:49,440
that this is not it's not a black or white issue.

547
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,239
In the sense of like who's the good guy bad guy?

548
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,519
Because it's very similar to the Massade's attitude towards Iran,

549
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:02,360
because as we saw, Masie odd funded and aided the

550
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:09,800
Phalange right, which was the Catholic sort of militant guys

551
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,280
in Iran. So the Christian militia in Iran human, not

552
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:20,119
Iran Lebanon. The Christian militia in Lebanon was the Phalangeist

553
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:26,199
and the CIA and Masad wanted to arm them and

554
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:32,199
help them as a bulwark against Hezbollah. And you see

555
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,280
a similar sort of attitude here where in the Oddan plan,

556
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,159
he wants to see a Coptic Christian state in Egypt

557
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,159
because that would be more amenable than Muslim brotherhood or

558
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,239
you know, these sort of anti or seem not Muslim brotherhood.

559
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,639
It would be more amenable than like a Nasser type

560
00:39:55,679 --> 00:40:01,199
of situation or a secular Egypt. And I think what

561
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,519
happens is that you get this similar policy with whether

562
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,639
it's the British imperial policy or the CIA or Israel.

563
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,159
If there's a situation where a secular Arab state could

564
00:40:14,159 --> 00:40:17,880
be beneficial in some cases, they'll go with that. You

565
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,480
see that with the CIA in the nineteen forties and fifties,

566
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:24,840
helping to set up pan Arabism, Arab nationalism, and then

567
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:31,480
the decision later on to fund arm and ally with

568
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,400
radical Islam to take down those countries when they pose

569
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,519
a problem. So in the Cold War you had a

570
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:42,119
lot of those secular Arab nation states beginning to align

571
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:48,119
with the Soviets, and that caused a problem for Western

572
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:52,159
democratic oriented countries during the Cold War, and that led

573
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:56,320
to more and more alliances with radical Islamic groups to

574
00:40:56,599 --> 00:41:03,360
destabilize those secular Soviet leaning Arab and not even just Arab,

575
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,000
but also like Iran, right, because it's debated to what

576
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:11,039
degree the Two Day Party was really influential and where

577
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:15,599
they really aligning with the Soviets in Iran. Perhaps they

578
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:22,280
really were, perhaps it was overblown. But in the Yunan

579
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,159
Plan we see that Jordan in the West Bank their plan.

580
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:40,880
There was Israeli invasion of Lebanon, the liquidation of Jordan

581
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,480
that was ruled by the Hashemite king kings. That's interesting

582
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:52,400
because I wonder if this didn't happen because the Hashemite

583
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,280
kings have for so long been on the CIA payroll.

584
00:41:57,559 --> 00:41:59,440
If you didn't know that that's actually pretty well known.

585
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,719
It's report in Time magazine for many years. I'll show

586
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:13,159
you what I mean Time Magazine, CIA recruits and CIA payroll.

587
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,800
During his forty six year rule, the Hashemite monarch was

588
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,559
accused by his enemies, both Israeli an Era of being

589
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:23,239
a CIA stooge. The Agency became his paymaster in nineteen

590
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,840
fifty seven, and hearing that role from the British, so

591
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,719
he noticed that the CIA is beginning to adopt the

592
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,199
strategy of the British of just sort of buying off

593
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:39,199
all of these Era rulers. Hussain received one million dollars

594
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,239
a year all the way up until nineteen seventy seven

595
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,480
when Jimmy Carter ended those payments. So this is interesting

596
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:51,000
that the Unn plan originally included the liquidation of Jordan

597
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:58,280
as ruled by the Hashemites. The dissolution of Jordan Ynon

598
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,199
thought would bring an end to the problem with the

599
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,400
existence of the dense concentrations of Palestinians in the Palestinian

600
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:06,840
territories that Israel had conquered in the Six Day War

601
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,400
of nineteen sixty seven, allowing them to be spirited away

602
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:17,000
into the foreigner Kingdom's territory. I mean, I know it's

603
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:18,960
a you know, like if you're a Hamas or whatever

604
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:21,039
and you're like this committed to why would you not

605
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:25,760
want to just go live in you know, an Islamic country,

606
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,719
you know what I mean? Like, I've not been to

607
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,760
the West Bank. I mean, is it some beautiful place?

608
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,480
I don't even know. I mean I've heard it's actually

609
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:36,760
not that bad. I think I've heard they have like

610
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,320
shopping malls and stuff, not saying they weren't, you know,

611
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,960
brutally Boxton or whatever. But I mean, if you really

612
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,239
love Islam, why wouldn't you want to be under some

613
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:54,000
Islamic you know, theocracy or something. Let's see what the

614
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:58,320
plan for Lebanon was. The United Plans papers on Lebanon

615
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,480
focused on it fed into an old Lebanese conspiracy theory

616
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,960
against its territorial integrity back to nineteen forty three, in

617
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:13,639
which the country was to be cantonized along Ethno nationalist lines.

618
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:18,519
So this would be just sort of destabilizing it or

619
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:25,000
controlling it through sort of creating these rival controlled groups.

620
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:26,679
And if you've listened to the interviews that we don't

621
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:30,320
with gen who's in Lebanon. He kind of describes it

622
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,719
as this way. When we did our analysis of Middle

623
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,000
Eastern intelligence and we covered has a lot Lebanon and

624
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:40,519
all the factions within Lebanon. And if you read Victor

625
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:42,800
Strowski's chapter at the end of the book the first

626
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,360
book by Way of Deception, the whole chapter on Lebanon

627
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,280
actually speaks of it this way. So I would say

628
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:54,159
this seems to have been pretty effectively executed. This Israeli

629
00:44:54,320 --> 00:45:04,280
planned to cantonize Lebanon to ethno nationalist gang's factions and organizations.

630
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,760
In the nineteen seventies, the idea took wing, and especially

631
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,480
after the Civil War broke out in seventy five, he

632
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:14,039
came to be associated with the figure of Kissinger. His

633
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:17,000
Middle Eastern diplomacy was thought to be greatly detrimental to

634
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:23,800
Lebanese interests, who was rumored to be planning to partition

635
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:32,199
Lebanon into two different states. Interesting. Interesting that fits into,

636
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,119
by the way, the timeline of what we read about

637
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:38,559
in the Ostrovsky book up to the nineteen eighty two

638
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:45,199
and eighty three bomb events in Lebanon by Hesboala Iraq

639
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,239
Yunan considered that Iraq with the oil wealth that it

640
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,159
had to be Israel's greatest threat. That's interesting because of

641
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,079
course Iraq became the central focal point right during desert

642
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:02,840
Storm and all that stuff. You non believe that the

643
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,880
around Iraq war would split Iraq and the dissolution would

644
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,320
lead to a strategic Israeli aim. So notice that you

645
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:15,840
see a pretty consistent pattern of splitting in micronation control

646
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,360
for what surrounds. And none of this is really new,

647
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:23,360
It's not that revolutionary. This is really just old school

648
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,960
imperial geopolitics. Right. The dominant power in any area or

649
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:33,199
region will operate kind of like an imperial structure, where

650
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:38,280
you'll have them managing the outer satellite nations through various

651
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:44,280
means including tribalism, factionalism, religious ethno divides, etc. All of

652
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:50,519
that's very key to how ancient history imperiums all the

653
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:53,360
way up into the British Empire and the American imperium today,

654
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,320
how they manage their empires. There's a great book on

655
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,079
this called Postmodern Imperium by Eric Wahlberg. And although I

656
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,199
don't necessarily agree with everything in his book, the central

657
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,400
thesis of the book is that and it is actually

658
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:12,239
correct let's see, So those were his theories about the

659
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,800
surrounding countries that surround Israel in the Oddy non plan.

660
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,119
Really doesn't seem that controversial to me. It seems pretty

661
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:25,639
I mean again, it's not an issue of good guy

662
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,639
bad guy. It's like if I was Israel, Uh, this

663
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,239
is like obviously the type of plan you would go with,

664
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:36,239
right or what you guys are talking about me defending Israel.

665
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:44,840
I'm literally saying that there's not a good guy bad guy. Okay,

666
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,679
what where have I lied? If anybody, if anybody would

667
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:49,159
like to come and have a debate, you're welcome to.

668
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,920
You'll notice like I've offered to debate all these different people.

669
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,599
Now again, let me give you an example. If Israel

670
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,760
arms the Falanges and if Israel wanted in that situation

671
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,880
to set up a cop at Christian State, who's the

672
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:14,239
good guy or the backguther. I think we have a

673
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,760
lot of low IQ people in the chat that have

674
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,360
no idea about geopolitics at all, So they don't know

675
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,519
what that have no idea what's going on. But we

676
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:25,559
literally did like a three hour talk. I just played

677
00:48:25,639 --> 00:48:28,840
Victor Ostrovsky's clips, and you guys are so stupid as

678
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,760
to think that I'm just literally sitting or being a

679
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Zionist as I analyze the Oditi non plan and just

680
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:37,360
say that if you were Israel, it makes sense. But

681
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,440
I think we have some really really deficient slow boys

682
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:48,239
in the chat who just can't even think past simple

683
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,840
hypotheticals and understanding things from other people's perspectives. So you

684
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,800
understand that I can analyze someone's position without actually accepting it.

685
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,320
Sold by Wetbird five dollars, Albriks says that you need

686
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,320
to go on his channel to debate him right now.

687
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,880
Wait a minute, I thought they wanted a neutral platform,

688
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:10,679
so you see that they just want clicks and attention.

689
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,639
They're the ones that want the clicks in the attention.

690
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,840
How am I zio cooking when I literally just played

691
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,360
you Victor of Strovsky's clip? I mean, are you mentally

692
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,239
ill when any of these people like to come to

693
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,599
bait like I'm Zio cooking when I literally played you

694
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,920
Victor of Strovsky's clips saying that their techniques are obvious.

695
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,599
I think you guys need to go ponder your ORBS

696
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,159
master's mooth two dollars or though Bros versus the orbo

697
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,679
Bros exactly. I think the orb Bros are melting out

698
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,599
right now. All along the Orbs were made of ice

699
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,960
and they're melting. Frank having meltdowns. Frank's melci five dollars.

700
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:57,159
One of the first things. One of the first Muslims

701
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,239
were Jewish Christians, like the eb it's not Orthodox. Many

702
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,280
of them were either Jewish Arabs or ebion Nite Arabs. Yeah,

703
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:14,159
this is interesting, it's like the the how can we

704
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,039
say this? The Arab mind seems to have a hard

705
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:25,320
time with things like the Trinity, and that's just my observation.

706
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,559
It seems to be I think that the Trinity requires

707
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:36,400
not just humility, but kind of the ability to do

708
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:42,360
like metaphysical distinctions right at certain levels, just intellectually. I'm

709
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,760
not saying that Arabs can't accept the Trinity on the

710
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,159
basis of vine revelation and not worry about the metaphysics,

711
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:52,039
but the defense of it does require a degree of

712
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:55,559
metaphysical understanding. You have to be able to understand the

713
00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:00,280
one of the many, right, this kind of stuff, And

714
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,360
I just think that for very simple minded people groups,

715
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:10,199
for example, if you look at the presence of inter

716
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,079
breeding amongst some of these groups. That does lower IQ.

717
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:20,760
It does cause problems, cognitive problems. If you look at

718
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:26,760
the average IQ in a lot of those countries, it's

719
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:32,159
pretty low. So although faith is not entirely or wholly

720
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,760
an intellectual IQ enterprise, it is part of it. If

721
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,760
you're going to have people defending the positions, writing theological

722
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,079
treatises to defend your positions, you see, and there have

723
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:49,880
been many great Arab saints, right Saint John Damascus, right

724
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:53,480
Orthodox pH Nisis. If you want to know who rules

725
00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:56,199
over you, look for who you're not allowed to criticize Voltaire,

726
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,800
Emperor Ashiev to seventy nine K and eighty. The intelligence

727
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,880
agencies are and the orbs are making your audio cutout.

728
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,719
Hopefully it's a good connection now. So I don't know

729
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,079
why the audio is cutting out.

730
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:09,079
Speaker 2: But.

731
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 11: Cuban Guy Audio issues two dollars Henry fifty Sex get

732
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,119
in touch with buy him. Brian Burlettick. I am familiar

733
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:22,360
with Brian Burletick. He is has been on twenty per

734
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,360
century Wire many times. I'm pretty sure I've heard those interviews,

735
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:29,440
so yeah, I think I probably should reach out to him.

736
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,119
He will talk about the Western origins of hamas he

737
00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:37,400
has agnostic agnostic, but you guys compliment each other. Yeah,

738
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,920
I'd be glad to chat with him. Hey, Jay, when

739
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,199
are you debating Hotep Jesus? I offered to debate, I didn't.

740
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,559
I forgot to see if he replied, So I'm not

741
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:51,840
sure if did he reply on that tweet. I'll have

742
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,679
to go and look forget where I have to go

743
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,679
dig it out and find it. I've been on his podcast,

744
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,159
and I think on the podcast we mentioned like the

745
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:06,519
possibility of debate. Pash rudneck one thousand beer and cigarette bottles.

746
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:10,239
That's what they That's the currency in Serbia. Just kidding,

747
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:13,280
We love our serbs, he says. Do not let any

748
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,039
of this get to you. In terms of the drama, Jay,

749
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:20,280
remember ashes to ashes, orbs to orbs, Henrik twenty sex

750
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:22,840
sec is some currency. I don't know what it is,

751
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,039
Probably something Nordic Origin thought that the souls that would

752
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,559
reincarnate would be perfect, right, so he thought they were orbs.

753
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 4: Right.

754
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 11: So maybe Sam's got the soul of Origin flying around

755
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,840
his room because Origin thought that the sphere was the

756
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,360
most perfect form, and so if the soul was the

757
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,840
most perfect type of existence rather than the body, the

758
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,039
body is a bad lower existence, then the soul had

759
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:52,199
to be a perfect sphere. Andy monts two dollars. Sam

760
00:53:52,320 --> 00:54:00,360
is projecting Cuban guy. Did Sam actually wish death upon

761
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:01,800
Orthodox because he's salty?

762
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 4: Man?

763
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 11: What a time to be alive? Yes he did. I

764
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,519
played the clip earlier zalmoxis two memberships or members for

765
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:11,760
two months. The bottom line is that Roman Catholics and

766
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,880
Protestants do not have the trinity exactly. That's what the

767
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,679
initial disagreement was over. Was that he was making the

768
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,599
argument that here's your tier of the better and worst

769
00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:26,559
of the Protestant Roman Catholic trinity defenders. And I was

770
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,920
a wholesale rejecting that either Protestants Roman Calocs have good

771
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,719
trinitarian models the Protestants and the Roman Catholics have a

772
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,159
neoplatonic diad. Everyone should read Saint Photius's Mystagogy exactly. Guys

773
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,119
want an easy cure to the whole thing that I

774
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,559
brought up, it was, it would be Saint Photius's Mystagogy.

775
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:46,320
And if you want to go deeper than that, you

776
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:51,679
read Saint Gergio Palamos's apedictic treatise out of Record a

777
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,039
ten dollars. Prophet Sam Schimoun psb upon him should join

778
00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:57,400
the Ghost of Venture cast and then he can hunt

779
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,599
ghosts because they also love orbs, and they would get

780
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:04,960
good footage from all the prophetic orbs that circle Sam's head,

781
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,719
proving that he's a prophet exactly. H. Brosei five dollars

782
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,880
after what he said regarding the prophecy of you and

783
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,320
Jamie getting divorced. I feel like an idiot for hoping

784
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,440
that this could be diffused. That dude is so fake

785
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,599
and gray. I think he had a manic episode. Honestly, H.

786
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:24,159
Brosey ten dollars. Ironically, Shammoun doesn't understand that this is

787
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,199
the easy part, because if we actually choose to debate you,

788
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,000
the aftermath will be detrimental to his career. Sam picked

789
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:34,719
the wrong chad nerds to go after. I mean, yeah,

790
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:41,719
like what you heard him say. You notice, by the way,

791
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,000
all I've done is continue to ask for a debate

792
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,719
on the issues, and they will talk about and do

793
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,599
anything to not have that. Here's what he says, solthy

794
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:53,679
wicked Orthobos.

795
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Speaker 17: You guys, you are a cancer dude. May God cut

796
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,000
you off prominently in Jesus name.

797
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 11: I mean this is like, I don't think he realizes

798
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,639
this is like tens of thousands of young guys who've

799
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:09,239
converted to Orthodoxy, and some of the Ortho bros are

800
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,280
girls too, by the way, online and saying so he

801
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,239
just wants them all dead or cut off from grace

802
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,920
by the way, cut off from grace is being worse,

803
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:24,559
is worse than being dead. So just weird man, just crazy,

804
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:31,800
sort of meltdown. And then his prophecy is that Jamie's gonna.

805
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 18: Leave me for the prophecy.

806
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 11: So this is the guy who thinks he's a prophet

807
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,000
because there's dust particles that fly around his room in

808
00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:44,280
his nasty house apartment with cat hair everywhere. The proof

809
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,559
that he's a prophet because these angelic dust orbs. Right,

810
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,280
So here here's the dust, the dust profit, right, the

811
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,760
cat nip dust profit.

812
00:56:53,920 --> 00:57:00,559
Speaker 18: Because he's okay, watch what's gonna happen. You're ready for

813
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:01,199
the prophecy.

814
00:57:02,119 --> 00:57:04,119
Speaker 11: What's funny about this is that if you listen to

815
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:07,920
what he says, he says he dealt with this and

816
00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:11,519
it led to the end of his marriage. So he's

817
00:57:11,559 --> 00:57:14,559
admitting that what led to the end of his marriage

818
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:16,840
is the male in the marriage being a narcissist talking

819
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,400
about himself, which is an odd accidental admission here this.

820
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:29,599
Speaker 17: Are you ready for the prophecy? You guys ready because

821
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:35,920
he's a narcissist. Okay, watch what's gonna happen. You're ready

822
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,840
for the prophecy because I've seen this. Sadly, I have

823
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,599
to live with this for ten years and it's.

824
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:43,079
Speaker 4: Sure.

825
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 11: Does he mean his own narcissism in his marriage? Is

826
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,599
that what he's saying turned me to a better man?

827
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,840
So there you go. He's admitting that the failed marriage

828
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,760
that he had was because of his narcissism.

829
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 17: Jay, gay liar, Here is what's going to happen. You're

830
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,679
not gonna last in your marriage. Your marriage is gonna end.

831
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Speaker 4: Listen.

832
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 17: Not wishing it on you, God knows. I don't wish

833
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:13,920
to sign anyone. But because you're a sick demon, you're

834
00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:17,239
full of satan, you're a scum narcissist.

835
00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 11: There you go. So all because I asked him to

836
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:26,519
do a public discussion in a civil way on the

837
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:33,119
Trinity and the energies, there you go, and they won't

838
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:35,840
do it. Really, I mean, I haven't seen any updates,

839
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,079
but as far as I can tell, they're not going.

840
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 4: To do it.

841
00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think without you know what, A lot of

842
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,079
times we say, oh, all, that guy's crazy, right, we

843
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:52,119
just sort of handwave and say, oh man, that guy's nuts.

844
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,880
Right now, I'm saying I think literally he actually had

845
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:59,039
a manic episode. And it's crazy because if you watch

846
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,119
the stream from a couple days ago or whenever it

847
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,880
was when I just simply messaged him, he went from

848
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:08,920
in one he would say like, Jay, Buddy, I love you, bro. Uh,

849
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,400
let's let's let's talk this out. Let's be cool. You

850
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,719
felt a snake. I hate you your guts, you know

851
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,719
your your mother's a horror. By the way, I love you. Though,

852
00:59:16,719 --> 00:59:19,760
it's like he would be flashing back and forth between

853
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:24,880
like two personalities almost like he's I mean, maybe he's

854
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,239
even I don't know, like by like extreme bipolar. Within

855
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,360
like a few minutes, it was wild, right, And that

856
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:35,800
to me is a pretty obvious indicator of some kind

857
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:42,880
of psychosis or manic episode. I just don't I seriously,

858
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,559
I still don't understand why. I mean, he deals with

859
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:48,079
people disagreeing with him all the time. It doesn't make

860
00:59:48,159 --> 00:59:53,000
sense why because I messaged him during a live stream

861
00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:55,760
there's nobody forcing my phone is sitting over here. I've

862
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,159
not looked at it this entire time. There's nothing about

863
00:59:59,239 --> 01:00:01,679
the live stream that forces me to look at my phone.

864
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:08,039
But if you message him during his live stream, it's

865
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,840
in his mind, I'm not doing like he thinks. It's

866
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,719
the devil prompting you to do it, and in his mind,

867
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,880
you're possessed by the double. So imagine this guy's life,

868
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,760
like everything that's happening in his life is either directly

869
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,880
caused by angel or demons in his mind. And no

870
01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:25,920
wonder he's having these sort of meltdowns because that's some

871
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:30,280
sort of weird charismatic delusion. That's not true. It's not Orthodox.

872
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,239
But he's in the world of Romacatholicism, which has adopted

873
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:39,719
Pentecostalism and charismaticism. So I guess he found his niche.

874
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,599
That's where he that's what he They're a perfect fit

875
01:00:42,679 --> 01:00:49,440
for each other, him in Rome. Crunch five dollars Canadian.

876
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,480
I'm in a fan. I like your stuff. I'm new

877
01:00:51,519 --> 01:00:54,360
to the faith. I look forward to learning. Found you

878
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,920
through a perfect guy life. Well thanks, Crunch, appreciate that

879
01:00:57,639 --> 01:01:01,199
open mind. Daily Grind five dollars. Maybe he's tremendously sadden

880
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:06,360
because of his daughter. I don't know about anybody's I

881
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,599
don't go after people's personal family stuff. That's what they do.

882
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,719
You notice all I've done is asked to keep having

883
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,960
a debate, and he's going after my wife. I mean,

884
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:18,119
that's how bad this is. Steve mc eleven five dollars?

885
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:20,920
Could is long be preventive? Arabs were part of Galatians

886
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,519
three twenty eight. If Arabs were part of Galatians three

887
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:27,800
twenty eight, there's neither June, nor great Greek slave nor free.

888
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,119
I mean Arabs are part of Galatians three twenty eight.

889
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,599
So I don't understand the question you mean because they're

890
01:01:34,639 --> 01:01:39,719
not literally mentioned. I mean, Paul's just saying that ethnicity

891
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:45,280
is not of prime importance in the Gospel. It doesn't

892
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,960
mean you lose your ethnicity. But there have been Arab

893
01:01:48,039 --> 01:01:53,159
Christians since the very beginning. I mean Antioch converts in

894
01:01:53,239 --> 01:01:59,880
the Book of Acts. Mister Pickle Pounder five dollars, what's up?

895
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,239
Do you have a discord private community. I'm not that

896
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,679
active in the discord. I gave it away some years ago.

897
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,599
There is Orthodox discord, though it's the largest one qu

898
01:02:08,719 --> 01:02:14,239
Nig saig two pounds. I don't know if I can

899
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:20,760
read that one on here, but you mean Hamas Again.

900
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,440
I think Hamas is not good, guys, But I also

901
01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:29,679
don't think that that makes the Zionis philosophy good. Big

902
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,880
Iron ten dollars respect for being unwavingly dignified about the

903
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:39,440
entire Shimona he he drama. Sometimes his orbs are just

904
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:42,599
his spit when he's for all the ps. Blue light

905
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:44,639
filters celt with ice train. I think these are blue

906
01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:49,480
light filter glasses. But thank you for that. Sigismund twenty

907
01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:53,840
sex life is good. Have some Swedish orb coin. Exactly,

908
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,280
he's donating orb coin. I added the coin part. Jason

909
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,400
Kassel twenty dollars. This is the new norm. If you

910
01:03:01,519 --> 01:03:04,679
criticize Israel, you are part of Hamas. Yeah, exactly. If

911
01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:07,280
you're critical of Hamas, then you're a Zionist. So people

912
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,039
are just falling into the dialectics, which is partly how

913
01:03:11,079 --> 01:03:14,440
it's constructed. Apparently you cannot say that both have done

914
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,760
horrible things and that both are bad. That's it should

915
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,719
be obvious. But we have a lot of slow tier boys,

916
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:25,239
shall we say of Genia ten dollars, Thank you always,

917
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:32,719
Thank you, Gina. Appreciate that. Arena fifty dollars. Glory to God.

918
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,639
Thank you so much, Arena for being very generous. Appreciate

919
01:03:35,719 --> 01:03:38,719
that Critical News seven Canadian. I appreciate all your work.

920
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 15: Jay.

921
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 11: I knew that Sam was bipolar the first time I

922
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,000
heard him speak. Well, I have noticed a lot of

923
01:03:44,119 --> 01:03:46,440
comments that have popped up in the past couple of

924
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:50,800
days from commenters that claim to be psychologists and therapists,

925
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,320
and they are saying the same thing that you know,

926
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,679
if you've done work with people that have these bipolar

927
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:05,079
manic issues or whatever, it's obvious. I'm not. I don't

928
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:07,800
work with bipolar manic people, so I don't really know

929
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,199
the signs, but I guess the signs are there. Jmail

930
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,760
thirty dollars. Do Catholics have the concept of prelst not really,

931
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:21,159
that's a good question.

932
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 20: Why.

933
01:04:21,519 --> 01:04:23,159
Speaker 11: I wonder why they don't. I mean, I guess just

934
01:04:23,239 --> 01:04:25,840
at a basic level, because the theology is wrong and

935
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,800
they don't have, you know, safeguards, and they don't.

936
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:30,199
Speaker 2: Have some of the.

937
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Speaker 11: The you know, holy traditions of the Fathers that the

938
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:41,639
Orthodox Church maintained. Rome lost a lot of that. There

939
01:04:41,719 --> 01:04:49,000
could be some deeper, broader, nuanced reason why Rome lost

940
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:51,840
the concept of prelest, but I'm not actually sure what

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it would be other than just their theology is dom

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is everything, demons and spirits. For Sam Shimun, so I

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think in his perspective, anyone messaging him, anyone disagreeing with

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him is immediately demonic, which is just bizarre, and I

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think speaks to something off, which is why you would

946
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interpret orbs as angels. It's just I remember when I

947
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:25,239
was eighteen, I read a book by a charismatic and oh,

948
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I know what it was. There's this crazy Pentecostal book

949
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and it was kind of famous at one time. Let's

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see if we can still find it. And it's kind

951
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,840
of the attitude that you see demonstrated in this mindset

952
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,119
of everything being caused by angels or demons. It was

953
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called Pigs in the Parlor. Have you guys ever heard

954
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:48,360
of this? And it's a famous charismatic book about quote deliverance.

955
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:58,960
It's a really kind of sad Pentecostal book and it's

956
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,559
about deliverance some ministries, right, I mean, it's it's really sad,

957
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,960
but it does accurately capture this charismatic mindset that all

958
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the things that are happening in my day to day life,

959
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whether it's you know what my wife says to me,

960
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or you know, my car breaking down the way to

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the grocery store, or you know somebody donating one hundred

962
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dollars to me, right, like, everything that happens is literally

963
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,719
caused by angels or demons. It's it's very bizarre. It's

964
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it's borderline supersti it is superstitious, right, it's weird. So

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01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,760
they've got a minecrub version of it. And it really

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goes along with the emotiveness, the sensationalism, the emotionalism that

967
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you find in Protestant charismatic circles. And that's exactly the

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frame in the mindset that sham Moon has.

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01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 8: Jesus has purchased a believer with his own blood and

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has made him a steward over his own life.

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Speaker 16: The devil has no legal.

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Speaker 11: Right to him, however, it is up to him to

973
01:07:05,679 --> 01:07:09,400
defend his rights. No demon can remain when the Christian

974
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seriously desires him. So the whole book, I have no

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idea if he's read this book, but the attitude is accurate.

976
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The whole book is just like again, everything that's happening

977
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is directly caused be angel or demons. And I mean

978
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in the Orthodox Church, this would all be presented by

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this would all be prevented by a spiritual father guarding

980
01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:40,159
you against pre lust. Quantum Yakub became a member, did

981
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you see DHS would be vetting people on social media

982
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:49,840
for certain comments that can be denial of entry. No,

983
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I did not see that. I'm not aware of that,

984
01:07:51,519 --> 01:07:53,639
but I'll have to look at that. I'm not surprised though.

985
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Johnny g Ten, Canadian, I asked Shamun if he thought

986
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that Osama did WTC seven. He responded by saying, Osama

987
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:09,880
graped my prostitute mother. I unsubscribed. I mean, it's almost

988
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:15,000
like the irony is that if anybody has a demonic manifestation,

989
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:20,000
is this guy's the that's the irony here, Like if

990
01:08:20,079 --> 01:08:22,479
you hear stories about exorcisms, like the way that the

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01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,720
demons speak, all they do is like cuss and spew venom,

992
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,600
which would suggest that the irony this whole time that

993
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:39,560
he calls everybody else a demonic manifestation, he actually perhaps

994
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,920
has the demon Jasper Daddy Faulcra five dollars. My area

995
01:08:44,119 --> 01:08:46,800
is somewhat of an Orthodox hotspot. I was wondering if

996
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,319
as an acquirer, I should go to a Serbian, Greek,

997
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,399
or Oca parish. I mean, out of those three, I

998
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:58,600
would recommend Serbian. Probably no churches are gonna be perfect,

999
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:05,600
but you might have a better chance of less liberalism

1000
01:09:06,199 --> 01:09:08,880
if you went Serbian. But I can't say perfectly how

1001
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:13,479
it would work out. Lumbago ten dollars. There was a

1002
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,119
recent community post from Shimun that the Patriarch of Alexandria

1003
01:09:16,239 --> 01:09:19,960
called Mohammed an apostle. I mean that could be the case,

1004
01:09:20,079 --> 01:09:22,319
but I don't understand what that would be, how that

1005
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:24,960
would be a rebuke against That's a two quoque because

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01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,720
we don't have the same ecclesiology. So this is just

1007
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,039
like feeding the low tier people who think that it's

1008
01:09:31,079 --> 01:09:37,479
a gotcha when calling the papacy an apostate actually undoes

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01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,840
the indefectibility of the Roman See and the promises of

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01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,159
attican One. If we thought that the Patriarch of Alexandria

1011
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:49,319
was indefectible, infallible, and had a holy spirit charism perfect

1012
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,399
that protected him from apostacia, error. That might be a

1013
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:59,960
good argument. Yeah, there's no bishop in the Orthodox Church

1014
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:02,680
that's infallible or in errant, and we would say that

1015
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,119
all of them have had heretics at times who occupied

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those sees. So this is like what Lofton used to do,

1017
01:10:09,359 --> 01:10:12,039
like five years ago. He would always say, you've got

1018
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:17,000
liberal bishops too, dog, you've got acumenist bishop's.

1019
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,119
Speaker 4: Too, dog.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but I don't put all of my ecclesiology around

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one dude. The Orthodox Church is a decentralized church, so

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01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,640
the fact that one bishop a thousand miles away says

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01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,520
something heretical, it doesn't affect me because it's decentralized. There's

1024
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,119
no one higher than the local bishop. But they think

1025
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:37,119
of it in a papal mindset, so they think that

1026
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:39,680
this too quoque way is a good argument, when it's

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,640
only a good argument if I believe that the patriarch

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01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,960
of Alexandria is a errant, infallible, or that he can't

1029
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,960
fall into heresy. You understand that when Nestorius fall into heresy,

1030
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:54,079
he was a patriarch of Constantinople. Nestorius was the second

1031
01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:57,880
highest bishop in the Church in the East, right next

1032
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:04,520
to Rome. Honorious fell into heresy. Honorious was the first

1033
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,039
bishop of all the bishops. He was the Bishop of Rome,

1034
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,560
cool bear aquod of three dollars. I'm a Roman Catholic

1035
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,920
on the verge of switching to Orthodoxy because of your content.

1036
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,319
Where is a good place to start reading from the

1037
01:11:16,399 --> 01:11:20,159
Church Fathers and the different councils. Read the article at

1038
01:11:20,199 --> 01:11:25,039
my website, uh the Ecumenical Canons refute papal supremacy. Start there.

1039
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,119
And for the Church Fathers, I would say, start with

1040
01:11:29,239 --> 01:11:33,479
Athanacious on the Incarnation, and then read the orient the

1041
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,680
theological orations of Saint Gregor Nazianzus, and that'll be a

1042
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,960
good introduction to the Eastern Fathers and their trinitarian theology.

1043
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,920
And then read Basils on the Holy Spirit. You'll begin

1044
01:11:42,039 --> 01:11:47,159
to get the mindset of monarchical trinitarianism, which is not

1045
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,479
consistently what's taught by Rome Kate. If guys, it was brutal,

1046
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,880
I have told you think the Egyptians. Hold on. I

1047
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,800
got a miss this rebby Lee ten Canadian. I am

1048
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,960
a I'm mikal thick here, but I'm got a foot

1049
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,239
in the Orthodox Church. Thank you for all this education,

1050
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:11,199
sir or malicious. Their education is priceless. I cannot express

1051
01:12:11,319 --> 01:12:14,720
the thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. Pretty brutal mine.

1052
01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 16: Yeah, they laid a loud stuff in, Okay, I mean

1053
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,760
since some stuff has gotten in. Yes, that's true, since molden.

1054
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,079
Some stuff mold Okay, some from I'll say this right,

1055
01:12:27,119 --> 01:12:29,920
because there's been different levels of blockade, even before two

1056
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,600
thousand and seven. Going back, I know in nineteen ninety

1057
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,880
six they had like a pretty strong blockade. That year.

1058
01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:39,680
According to the World Bank, it contracted forty percent of

1059
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:44,600
the GDP of Gaza. So just for for reference, the

1060
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,680
Great Depression we was a thirty percent contraction. This was

1061
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,399
in nineteen ninety six. For one year, they gave them

1062
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,199
something worse than our Great Depression. That was just one

1063
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:55,600
year they from two thousand and seven on.

1064
01:12:56,119 --> 01:12:59,119
Speaker 11: There's now I have to admit this is something I

1065
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:02,119
don't know about, not know at all about the economics

1066
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:07,039
of this region. So this is interesting and I'm happy

1067
01:13:07,119 --> 01:13:10,000
to learn new things about the economics of this region.

1068
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,359
I feel like I let's say I missed a super

1069
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,840
chat over here. Let me go to that hush tones

1070
01:13:16,199 --> 01:13:18,840
five bucks. When someone is this far gone and they

1071
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,039
won't talk about things in a civil way. The only

1072
01:13:21,119 --> 01:13:24,159
course of action is mackriy, watch out, Jay. The orb

1073
01:13:24,279 --> 01:13:26,000
of Yakub is coming.

1074
01:13:26,119 --> 01:13:26,279
Speaker 12: I know.

1075
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,399
Speaker 11: Hush tones two dollars, Quantum Stream two thirty and four pm.

1076
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,920
Hail the Quantum Orb. Yeah. Actually I did start the

1077
01:13:34,039 --> 01:13:38,760
stream on time, but the quantum orb made it project

1078
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,000
into the simulation in your minds that it started late.

1079
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,000
So we are literally hacking the matrix right now with

1080
01:13:47,159 --> 01:13:51,520
our quantum orbs CGD two dollars. Bummer to hear about

1081
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:56,199
Sam chumuonn Brandon new member. What's up in rolf Stake

1082
01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:59,439
ten dollars? I hate the dumb thirties commercials? Could you

1083
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,920
please get YouTube premium? Yeah? I just keep forgetting to

1084
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,920
do it. It costs a Chris ten dollars. Yeah, I

1085
01:14:08,039 --> 01:14:15,640
just keep forgetting. I'll do it eventually. Let's see you

1086
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,720
gotta make sure. I think I missed another one up here,

1087
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,520
the bird that was created by Jesus became a member.

1088
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:32,520
What's up man, Valerian, Alex Scott, Nectarius, Spartan, up North

1089
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,760
all became members. Welcome everybody, enjoy the members content. I

1090
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:47,199
hope you do. Jordaine, Actually your point about Nestorius is

1091
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:52,159
mute because the patriarch Constantinople is a saint, because Voice

1092
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:56,239
of Reason said so exactly, even though that totally undoes

1093
01:14:56,279 --> 01:14:59,439
all the anathemas of Ephesus and the theology of saints.

1094
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,960
I mean, Sirril and the anathems are all wrong because

1095
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:06,439
they're directed against th stories. Victor G ten two, six,

1096
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,319
four or five dollars JA, I'm happy that you're getting

1097
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,560
on all the bigger podcasts. I knew it was a

1098
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,720
lot of patience and tenacity to keep doing it for

1099
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:13,199
so long.

1100
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1101
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 11: I think we're gonna have fun. I mean, we've had

1102
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,319
some big podcasts in the past. The only bad news

1103
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,479
is that I don't know. I think that with timcast

1104
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,760
when we're going to do this Catholic debate, So we

1105
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,239
couldn't get Michael Knowles, we couldn't get Charlie Kirk. There

1106
01:15:33,359 --> 01:15:37,279
was some other Protestant evangelical guy with like one hundred

1107
01:15:37,279 --> 01:15:38,880
thousand followers that were trying to get I guess he

1108
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,600
didn't want to do it. Wes Huff said no. By

1109
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,079
the way, I should have added west Huff to the

1110
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:50,000
list of people who declined the debate. I don't know

1111
01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:53,000
that we're be able to do this Timcast debate, which

1112
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:56,600
I was really hoping would be able to be done

1113
01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:03,479
because they wanted a Protestant, Catholic, an Orthodox, and now

1114
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:12,159
there's no Protestant and so it would be like me

1115
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,479
versus Tim Poole and Tim Gordon and I do it?

1116
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:19,960
Just does I don't think that. Even Tim Gordon was like,

1117
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,760
we got to get a big name like Knowles or

1118
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,439
Charlie Kirk, right, So I just I don't know if

1119
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,239
that one will happen. I mean, I'll keep pushing for it,

1120
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,000
maybe if we could find a Protestant who wants to

1121
01:16:30,079 --> 01:16:32,800
go on tim Cast. But the other thing too is

1122
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,239
like the more people that you add, the less of

1123
01:16:35,279 --> 01:16:39,640
a debate it is. It just becomes like everybody taking

1124
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,239
turns yapping on an open panel, so it's not really

1125
01:16:43,279 --> 01:16:51,800
a debate, you know what I mean? Idbro five dollars

1126
01:16:52,319 --> 01:16:54,279
all break to has scheduled a live debate with you

1127
01:16:54,399 --> 01:16:55,560
for seven fifteen.

1128
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:56,199
Speaker 4: So I have to go.

1129
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 11: Like they both said that they would do a debate

1130
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,800
on the Crucible, they could do it. Albright said any

1131
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:06,199
topic that I want, and they won't do it on

1132
01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:08,319
the Crucible. Even though Sam Chamun as I showed you

1133
01:17:08,359 --> 01:17:10,439
guys earlier said yesterday he would do a debate on

1134
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,439
they would do a debate on the Crucible. Now they won't,

1135
01:17:14,079 --> 01:17:16,760
and so Albright wants me to come to his channel.

1136
01:17:17,079 --> 01:17:20,920
He ain't going to come to my channel. So it's

1137
01:17:21,399 --> 01:17:24,920
Crucible or none. That's my offer. My offer is which

1138
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,000
they already said they would do, and Albrich said it

1139
01:17:27,079 --> 01:17:31,239
any topic I want, Okay, I want me and Kai

1140
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:36,840
versus Shamun and Albrecht on the Crucible on two different topics,

1141
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,279
a Syrian Church of the East and how their position

1142
01:17:40,399 --> 01:17:44,079
is contradictory, and that would be Kai's section, and then

1143
01:17:44,319 --> 01:17:48,000
me on pre and post Vatican two dogmatic contradictions that

1144
01:17:48,079 --> 01:17:52,279
would be my section. There you go, that's the offer.

1145
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,880
And there's no reason why they couldn't do that, given

1146
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,199
that they've already said they would do it on the Crucible,

1147
01:17:57,239 --> 01:17:59,039
and now they're back in a way and saying no,

1148
01:17:59,119 --> 01:18:02,840
it's going to be on this goober's channel. I think

1149
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,920
they're just trying to milk all this for attention, because

1150
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,920
we all knew they're not actually going to debate. Chase

1151
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,439
Haggard was the first to say they will not ever

1152
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,079
debate this, and Chase was right, maybe I jump up

1153
01:18:16,119 --> 01:18:20,880
ten dollars. Should we go full truth or that a

1154
01:18:21,079 --> 01:18:25,680
chopper crash was Semen's CEO. I didn't even know that.

1155
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,840
I saw yesterday this image of the chopper, but I

1156
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,760
didn't know that it had anybody prominent in it. I mean,

1157
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,359
I think everybody when you see, you know, an airplane

1158
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,600
or a copter or something go down and you have

1159
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,760
high profile people, I mean, it's pretty natural and reasonable

1160
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,800
to suspect that it might have been a hit or

1161
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,520
a sabotage. But I didn't know that until just now.

1162
01:18:55,399 --> 01:18:59,560
Bobby c five dollars and the Palestinians need bitcoin, Israelis

1163
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,039
need bigcoin. Everybody needs bitcoin, and that I do agree with.

1164
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,159
Everybody will do better in the future with that. Over

1165
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:11,319
the fiat currencies, the scam fiat currency wild rage, twenty

1166
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,760
one bgns Now, that's a weird currency for you. We

1167
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,520
see some weird currencies on here. What the heck is

1168
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:21,920
a BGN? It's a bigin he says me, twenty one biggins.

1169
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,760
Sorry if this is op topic. I'm Orthodox, And in

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one video he said the Bible is not the word

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of God. It's a book pointing to the Word of God.

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How can we explain that it's primarily a liturgical book. Well,

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because it's meant to be read in the churches. Right,

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It's not primarily a book for you to argue on

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the internet with, it's not primarily a book for you

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to be in your prayer corner with. It might be

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in those contexts, but its primary context and milieu is

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within the divine liturgy being read out. And we know

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that because that's really the setting for for example, David psalms.

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David psalms are liturgical songs that were meant to be

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sung in the temple synagogue liturgies, and so the Orthodox

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approached to the text of Scripture are that they are couched,

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they are situated, they are housed within the context of

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being sung and chanted in the liturgical service. That's, by

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the way, really the only way that they can be understood,

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and that's how the Canon came about. The daily readings

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in the churches. The lectionaries played a key role in

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the formation of the Biblical Canon. Almost all Protestants don't

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even know that, and so they missed the actual context.

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Victor G. Ten two six four five dollars. What is

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your take on Rex Jones becoming Orthodox. That's great. I

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mean I think everybody was happy to see that. What

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last year, I think he was received at Father Moses'

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church last year. Yeah, I mean, I think you know this,

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These discussions on this, this podcast, this channel played a

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role in that as well as others. I'm sure you

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know he he found a lot of camaraderie with with

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Father Moses. So I hope that he's doing well. I

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think I've only talked to him briefly on Twitter, Space

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and maybe a couple of emails, so I've not met Rex.

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I don't know him in person. What about Alex any Nudges, Well,

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Alex has expressed interest in attending Orthodox Church. He had

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said a few months ago he wanted to go. I

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don't know if he ever did go check out Father

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Moses' parent In fact, he messaged me about an Orthodox

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church and I suggested Father moses Church. So I don't

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know if he if he went or not. I first

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heard about you on the ten foil Hat podcast. Yeah,

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I think if we, you know, go back out to

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l A in the next month for for whatever. Ruslan

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Hodge twins, I would I would try to also go

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back on Tripoli. Whenever we go to La I try

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to do all the podcasts I can out there. Emperor Shiv,

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two Canadians ask christ Developed to debate on Temple. It's

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got to be a big name, like there's no I

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don't know who that is, but like you know, it's

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got to be somebody with like over one hundred thousand subscribers.

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Yakub quantum, yakup five dollars. I just got The Bitcoin

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Standard by saifidin Amus. Are you familiar with the book?

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Can you recommend it? I actually have the book as well.

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I ordered it in Tennessee. I don't have it here,

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and I'm looking forward to reading it. I've not yet

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read it, but I've never heard anything bad about it.

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I think it's probably going to be an excellent read.

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I intend to read it very soon and do a

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podcast on it. I just haven't gotten to it yet,

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but I've never heard any bad about it. I think

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most people think it's probably the best bitcoin book. But

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there's also our friend Julia's book, Thank God for Bitcoin,

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uh so I doubt Siphodine's book will touch on the

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sort of ethical biblical views of bitcoin, like Julia's book does,

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but they could. I'm sure they compliment one another. But

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thank you for reminding about that. By the way, Coach

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CHRISTI five dollars. Thank you for the advice I submitted

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to my church father. I no longer need debate online.

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I will no longer debate online without authorization. Uh well,

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I mean it just depends. Like if you're a Catechuman,

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you know, the recommendation is that you don't debate for

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one to three years when you until you can complete

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that catechumen process, and then you're under authority because all

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of us, we all need checks and balances. That's the point,

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right Victor ten two six four two dollars You versus

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Milo would be very legendary. I think maybe four years

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ago there was a brief text DM back and forth,

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and I asked Milo if he wanted to do a

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debate and he wasn't interested, and he said he was

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interested in my book though, So I think I mailed

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him my book like four or five years ago, but

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I never heard back, So maybe he didn't like the book.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: Jadiron Tucker twenty twenty five. Now that's what I'm thinking, right,

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I feel like, yeah, maybe by twenty twenty five, twenty

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twenty six, right, maybe there's a possibility of Tucker. I

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think my numbers are just kind of you know what

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I mean, Like, if I can get on some of

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these bigger podcasts, we can get up into the two

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hundred thousands. There's a lot better chance. So you guys

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need to follow me on Twitter if we can get

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you know, I need to. I'm right at one hundred

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thousand on Twitter. So the quicker that we can get

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the numbers up, because that's what the big podcasts look at.

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Speaker 15: Right.

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Speaker 11: I talked to one of Tucker's people. I talk to

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PBDS people and and I'm I've not talked to like

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Rogan people, but I'm assuming that it's the same sort

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of attitude for Rogan as well. Like the schedulers look

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at your channel and your stats and your profiles, and

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if you're not up in the you know, two hundred

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thousands range, at least in the hundred thousand range, right,

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which okay, yeah for the channel, but like we need

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to get the Twitter up, and we need to get

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the channel up into the two hundreds, and then I

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have a lot better chance of the big the big boys, right,

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But I would say for sure, like you know, give

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us another three or four years and will definitely Lord

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Willing be up in the twos the three hundreds for sure,

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and maybe then we got a we got a much

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more likely shot.

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Speaker 14: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I think in the next year or two we got

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a decent shot. But we'll see. Uh Yasper Daddy Falcore

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five dollars. Maybe Ed Maybray would be a good candidate

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for the Tim Poole debate. He's doing a Bible Say

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series on the FLM death Squad. Oh that guy, Yeah,

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that could be an interesting person. The scheduler woman it

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has She's messes me multiple times about different Protestants she's

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she's trying to find and they're just there. I guess

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she's having a hard time finding a Protestant that will

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come do it because we've had what four already four

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cancel everybody like the stream Clarity conversation. I mean, you

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guys are being so generous preciate. It like we haven't

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even gotten to we haven't gotten to the.

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Speaker 13: To this.

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Speaker 11: I feel like I missed a bitcoin.

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Speaker 4: Thing.

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Speaker 11: Let's see Bobby C five dollars. I'm currently reading the

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Bitcoin Standard. I just started chapter eight. It is very good.

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I read it from the beginning. Don't skip to the

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bitcoin part. Okay, there we go. That's good advice, by

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the way, I think made by jim Bob. Shout out

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to Jimbob. I think Jimbob is going to be in

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Santa Barbara at the same time and we're both This

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is gonna be awesome. We're both going to have the

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debate with not so Erudite and the other ladies whoever

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happens to be there that day. I guess. So that's

1306
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gonna be fun. And I hope you guys check out

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the recent episode of the sam Hai podcast. Did you

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guys check it out? Excise me a sam Hi Hi.

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It's also pertinent to today's topic. So how doing up

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here to the act and you'll see pen to the

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top is the newest episode Moist thinkers. I think it's

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episode four, and good news is I think we've almost

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got episode five wrapped up to so episode five will

1314
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be coming soon getting decent viewage. It'd be good to

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get the other one. The last one had about five

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hundred thousand over here on Twitter. It'd be good to

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get these up into the millions. But I mean these

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are you know, people are saying that these are really

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really well crafted, and I have to agree. I mean,

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obviously it's not just me and Sam. It's like a

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whole team of people, so you know, all the MD guys,

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the team, and I'm not the only writer, by the way,

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there's probably there's me Sam at least. I think there

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was about four of us, maybe five on some episodes.

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I think there was more writers on the first episode.

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That one was really really intense. We might have had

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six or seven writers on the first one. So it's

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it's interesting, it's it's a collaborative effort. It's a lot

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of fun. It would be easier if we all lived

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in the same region, you know, the same city. That

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would be a lot better. I could be more directly involved, but.

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Speaker 6: It is what it is.

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Speaker 11: Christ developed as one hundred and twenty nine k. He

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is very anti calogic and Orthodox. Yeah, I can mention

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01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:52,600
him to the timcast scheduler. I'll take a look at that.

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Victor G ten two six four five dollars. Did you,

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if you look back everything, did you think you would

1338
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have such an impact in spreading Orthodoxy? No, I had

1339
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no idea about that not at all. I mean that's

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and I don't even really want to be in that position.

1341
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What was your vision for your future? Well, you know,

1342
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all of this Internet stuff kind of took on a

1343
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life of its own. I had no idea it was

1344
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going to be like this. It was all just kind

1345
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of an experiment in the sense of when I was

1346
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my last job after grad school was working at AT

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and T. I was selling cell phones because it was

1348
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just the first job that I could find when I

1349
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was no longer interested in grad school. I just had

1350
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to take whatever job I could get, and I actually

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had fun. I had fun with that job. It was

1352
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actually fun to you know, sales is not the worst

1353
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of you know, normy jobs for me. So I did

1354
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that for maybe a year, and then I found another

1355
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job that was sales, but it was a different company,

1356
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and it was a funny thing because it was like

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the job was not what I thought it was going

1358
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to be. They hired me as a person to come

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in and edit and write their product descriptions, right, and

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I was like, Ah, this is gonna be fun, you know,

1361
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I get to It's not gonna be the most exciting writing,

1362
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but I'm gonna get paid to write stuff, and that's

1363
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better than I don't know, shoveling poop at the poop factory.

1364
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I don't know, right, And it was not that at all.

1365
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So as soon as I get hired, they put me

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in the call area and it's like the call area. Yeah,

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you're making calls to all the people who place an

1368
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online order and want or that want to call in.

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And it was a what was the name of that company, Auto,

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I don't know if it still exists anymore, Auto Auto

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trim design. And it doesn't sound like what it was.

1372
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This sounds like some kind of like Cholo pimp your

1373
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ride type of place. It wasn't that at all. It

1374
01:32:00,119 --> 01:32:04,039
was like a big factory building that sold all of

1375
01:32:04,119 --> 01:32:09,239
this like pimp your car stuff. So it was not

1376
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like a small I don't know, is there even a

1377
01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:16,600
word for, you know, cholo pimp your car type places.

1378
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:17,840
I don't, I don't know what those are called. But

1379
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it wasn't like that. It was a big warehouse with

1380
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all of this pimp your car material and they had

1381
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this office, this upstair office where you sit on the

1382
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:31,600
phone talking to all of these people, has a lot

1383
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of rednecks and for those that don't know, in the South,

1384
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:39,720
when you are selling pimp your car gear, you got

1385
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,520
black dudes and redneck dudes. Those are the people that

1386
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,720
pimp their cars and there's a lot of overlap with

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those two right. Anyway, It's just it was a really goofy, stupid,

1388
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,640
annoying job that was fun for like six months. Anyway,

1389
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those are my last few jobs. And then I went

1390
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into thinking, all right, I could either keep working these

1391
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dumb jobs and you know the cell phone place, they

1392
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offered me that I had to be a manager, so

1393
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it would have made a lot more money, but I

1394
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would have had to work sixty hours a week. I

1395
01:33:14,079 --> 01:33:15,439
was like, I don't want to be a manager of

1396
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a cell phone store. That sounds like a nightmare. I

1397
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wanted to stay on as a temporary person, you know,

1398
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part time worker, because I was able to work on

1399
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my blog and do podcasts. And they were like, well,

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01:33:28,079 --> 01:33:30,760
you either have to take the manager position because you're

1401
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,680
over qualified, or we had to let you go. So

1402
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,000
I was like, dang it, all right, fine, I'm out here.

1403
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:39,800
And then I thought, why don't I just try to

1404
01:33:40,039 --> 01:33:42,000
make it with a blog. And this is back in

1405
01:33:42,079 --> 01:33:48,079
twenty eleven, so maybe twelve eleven twelve, blogging was, you know,

1406
01:33:48,279 --> 01:33:53,840
still more popular back then. Audio podcasting was getting really

1407
01:33:54,079 --> 01:33:57,000
really popping off. YouTube was just kind of beginning to

1408
01:33:57,119 --> 01:34:01,560
be dominant, right, but most people were still blogging and podcasting.

1409
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,199
So I was like, yeah, I'll try that out. And

1410
01:34:06,039 --> 01:34:11,760
it took about two years. By twenty fourteen fifteen, I

1411
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,119
was doing it full time, and I already had a

1412
01:34:15,159 --> 01:34:17,520
whole lot of time of writing, right, So I'd basically

1413
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:24,439
written thousands of pages of essays on film, which became

1414
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,600
the trilogy, and then I've written thousands of pages on

1415
01:34:29,079 --> 01:34:31,239
a couple thousand pages on other stuff, which was the

1416
01:34:31,319 --> 01:34:36,079
geopolitics and stuff, maybe not maybe maybe about a thousand pages,

1417
01:34:36,159 --> 01:34:38,119
so about a thousand pages of film reviews and about

1418
01:34:38,119 --> 01:34:40,840
a thousand pages of like geopolitical stuff, and that got

1419
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:46,399
whittled down into the Red Book eventually. But I don't

1420
01:34:46,399 --> 01:34:48,760
have the read book back back then. So the next

1421
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,640
thing that happened was somebody said, do you have a book?

1422
01:34:53,079 --> 01:34:55,640
So Chris Milligan reached out to me the publisher, because

1423
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,920
I did an interview with Sean Stone Oliver Stone Son,

1424
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:05,039
so he watched Oliver Stone's Sons podcast and when they

1425
01:35:05,079 --> 01:35:06,479
reached out about a book, I was like, oh, I

1426
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,640
recognize Trying today. Like I bought a bunch of their

1427
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,279
books over the years. I have literally probably have twenty

1428
01:35:11,359 --> 01:35:14,680
Trying Day books on my shelf. And I was like, yeah, sure,

1429
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,840
I have a manuscript. I didn't technically have a manuscript.

1430
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:19,239
I had a bunch of essays and I was like, well,

1431
01:35:19,279 --> 01:35:21,840
that'll work for chapters in a book. So that led

1432
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,439
to the book, and then the book went out, and

1433
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:27,760
then right after the book, Jay Whedner reached out to

1434
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:31,000
sell us to a TV show. We did one season

1435
01:35:31,039 --> 01:35:34,640
of full production TV show. If you guys haven't watched it,

1436
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,600
by the way, I do recommend it's still a really

1437
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,760
good show. Like people still love Going Back and I

1438
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,960
still get comments on it. And you work for Goy.

1439
01:35:44,079 --> 01:35:47,119
I didn't actually work for Guya. The way that TV

1440
01:35:47,239 --> 01:35:50,439
shows work and this is like still twenty what eighteen

1441
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,880
when this happened. The way TV shows work is you

1442
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:59,399
you film a thing with a production company and then

1443
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:05,239
they sell it to the network or the distributor. Right,

1444
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:11,239
so our show was paid for and produced by Jay

1445
01:36:11,279 --> 01:36:16,840
Wiedner's company. Let's see where is this series? And then

1446
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,399
they then Guya bought it, right, so that's people don't

1447
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:23,800
know that how TV stuff works. But they bought one

1448
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,640
season and then Jamie and I wrote an entire ses.

1449
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:33,920
So over at Guaya we have Hollywood Decoded. Came out

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01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:38,960
in twenty I guess this is twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen

1451
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,680
or nineteen. I'm not sure. Twenty eighteen, I think, and.

1452
01:36:43,359 --> 01:36:43,560
Speaker 8: It was.

1453
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,399
Speaker 11: It was a lot of fun. This was a great time.

1454
01:36:48,039 --> 01:36:53,880
I spent three or four weeks in Colorado filming because

1455
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,560
they're not located in California, they're actually located in Colorado.

1456
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,800
I'll show you guys a I used to be able

1457
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,760
to watch some of a free episode. Let's say, here

1458
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:06,800
we go, so our Lord of the Rings episode here

1459
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,960
is free. You can watch this one without a subscription.

1460
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,039
The rest of the show is upon the paywall. But

1461
01:37:13,319 --> 01:37:16,279
as you can see, it isn't a full production like

1462
01:37:17,319 --> 01:37:23,000
we had. An Emmy winning producer produced the show. Where

1463
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:32,079
is it at? So I'll give you guys just a

1464
01:37:32,119 --> 01:37:35,399
little brief peek into the TV show. By the way,

1465
01:37:35,399 --> 01:37:36,960
it was a lot more carb blued back in. That

1466
01:37:37,079 --> 01:37:39,159
was before Carnivore died, right, So I didn't know about

1467
01:37:39,159 --> 01:37:41,439
Carnivore died at the time. Now, I was like, man,

1468
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,880
I cannot lose this weight. I was like, I'm eating

1469
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,199
so many vegetables and I'm being so healthy. Why can't

1470
01:37:46,199 --> 01:37:53,399
I lose weight? Is there a deeper, hidden, more esoteric

1471
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:55,319
meaning to the Hollywood films that we all have to watch?

1472
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 4: Car Blue, Jay Dyre And.

1473
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 11: I'm Jay Whitener and you're watching Hollywood Decoded today? So

1474
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,319
the free episode is one of our Lord of the

1475
01:38:13,399 --> 01:38:14,640
Rings decodings.

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01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:15,159
Speaker 13: Are there?

1477
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:20,039
Speaker 11: I was orbit bloated, correct, I was manifesting my orbit

1478
01:38:20,079 --> 01:38:26,439
bloat in twenty eight this is twenty eighteen. So say,

1479
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:32,159
I'm trying to give you guys the link here if

1480
01:38:32,199 --> 01:38:37,159
you want to go watch this episode. So it's fun because,

1481
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:43,239
like Weedner was, he's like the older and I don't

1482
01:38:43,279 --> 01:38:44,800
mean this in a derogatory way, but like the older

1483
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:49,600
sort of boomer mindset about film, and his views are

1484
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,840
kind of very speculative, not in a bad way. They're fun,

1485
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,399
and then I'm always kind of trying to bring it

1486
01:38:56,479 --> 01:39:03,000
down to like more provable stuff. I guess you could

1487
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:09,039
say an amazing mythology that Tolkien wrote because he had

1488
01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:12,279
gone to World War One with all of the buddies in.

1489
01:39:12,319 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 18: His little town.

1490
01:39:15,199 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 11: I should rewatch. I haven't watched these in many years.

1491
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:21,199
It be fun to watch this exactly, And they really

1492
01:39:21,319 --> 01:39:23,359
plan this out in a kind of secret way. And

1493
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,920
the reason that he has to deceive everyone is because he.

1494
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 4: Can't let that get out.

1495
01:39:28,039 --> 01:39:30,560
Speaker 11: It's such a dangerous gambit that he's that he's sending

1496
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:35,199
the ring. The thing about this show was that, although

1497
01:39:35,239 --> 01:39:39,640
it was a lot of fun, I wanted to be

1498
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:44,720
a lot more jovial, a lot more silly. I wanted

1499
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:46,760
to do more impressions. I wanted to have fun with

1500
01:39:47,159 --> 01:39:49,800
When you have like a whole team, like a producer

1501
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:53,039
and a director and all that stuff, like, it's a

1502
01:39:53,079 --> 01:39:57,439
lot more controlled, like you don't get to you don't

1503
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:01,880
get to do as much as the way that I

1504
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,600
can do it now on a livestream, right, Does that

1505
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,560
make sense? So I wanted it to be a lot

1506
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,000
more like, you know, silly elements in there, but the

1507
01:40:09,079 --> 01:40:12,279
show is way more serious. There's not really much joking around.

1508
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:16,680
So that was one thing that wasn't really what I

1509
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,720
wanted to do. But I mean it's still great. Like

1510
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:23,279
the whole thing was a lot of fun, and I

1511
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,680
do recommend watching it if you've never seen it. Is

1512
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,479
this is there a hidden, more deeper meaning to the

1513
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,920
Hollywood films that we all love to watch. This is

1514
01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:34,279
the way. The reason I said more deeper is because

1515
01:40:34,319 --> 01:40:38,399
that day I was like super tired. You would film

1516
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:42,079
from eight in the morning until five at night every

1517
01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:46,000
day for a week, right, eight in the morning until

1518
01:40:46,039 --> 01:40:49,760
five at night. Right, it was it was rough man

1519
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,399
because the way it works there is like they have

1520
01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:58,960
a whole bunch of TV shows and they scheduled the studio.

1521
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,239
There's like three or four studio and so the studios

1522
01:41:01,239 --> 01:41:03,079
are all scheduled, right, so you have like a limited

1523
01:41:03,159 --> 01:41:06,279
time when you can film your series. So we had

1524
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:13,000
initially two weeks and they scrapped three episodes because they

1525
01:41:13,039 --> 01:41:17,119
were quote too dark. I've never seen. I've never seen

1526
01:41:17,159 --> 01:41:21,920
those episodes. Would be great to go see them Sham

1527
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:26,640
Shamun's Dark orb. Vatican Catholic made another video about you.

1528
01:41:27,079 --> 01:41:30,560
They claimed that they refewed Orthodoxy. Are you ready to debunk?

1529
01:41:31,079 --> 01:41:34,159
We've already replied to them many many times. Have a

1530
01:41:34,199 --> 01:41:39,640
whole three hour video called set of Accntism for his Orthodoxy.

1531
01:41:40,279 --> 01:41:44,560
Daniel Lemon five dollars debate Jacob Hansen the Mormon. Look,

1532
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,720
so we had Catholics fussing at me today because they

1533
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,720
were trying to fuss at me about my debate standards.

1534
01:41:52,800 --> 01:42:00,479
I set the debate standards for me. Ad is cutting

1535
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,239
in and out? Maybe it's this chord just I don't

1536
01:42:03,239 --> 01:42:04,720
know why the audio would be cutting in and out.

1537
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:25,319
It says the connection is good. Huh test task? Can

1538
01:42:25,359 --> 01:42:29,680
you guys hear me? Let me check the notifications and

1539
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:33,199
see if it's okay. So the frames are dropping?

1540
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:36,119
Speaker 4: How is it?

1541
01:42:36,239 --> 01:42:36,399
Speaker 2: Now?

1542
01:42:39,039 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 11: That's weird because it says good connection. It's a YouTube

1543
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:50,960
issue refreshed the stream. Yeah, so like, so my audio

1544
01:42:51,039 --> 01:42:56,199
input is perfect. The it does say there's a couple

1545
01:42:56,199 --> 01:42:58,159
of drop frames, but that shouldn't affect the audio.

1546
01:43:00,079 --> 01:43:00,199
Speaker 20: Uh.

1547
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:07,680
Speaker 11: And YouTube is telling me the connection is perfect. So okay?

1548
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 4: Cool?

1549
01:43:09,279 --> 01:43:13,159
Speaker 11: Anyway, Uh, we got way off in the star Hollywood

1550
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:17,159
Hollywood code. Excuse me, let's get back to this.

1551
01:43:17,359 --> 01:43:19,319
Speaker 16: It's been a blockade of that country. You don't think

1552
01:43:19,359 --> 01:43:20,520
it's what the country before?

1553
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 19: Why do you think is a blockade of any kind?

1554
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 16: Why is there a blockade?

1555
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,279
Speaker 11: Oh wait, I forgot this question. I'm sorry. Daniel Lemon

1556
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,199
five dollars debate Jacob Hanson. You have not debated him.

1557
01:43:31,239 --> 01:43:34,520
You debated Robert Gerr. He's much bigger. He's interviewed by

1558
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,840
Alex O'Connor. He made a video about about the video

1559
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,880
about the Trinity with God Logic. God Logic did not

1560
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:45,720
do well in that discussion. Okay, we'll see, we'll see.

1561
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:51,479
H Brossie five dollars. Customer asks for a new cell

1562
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:55,000
phone case and Jay starts pre supping them. Okay, what's

1563
01:43:55,039 --> 01:43:57,520
your upsoum and justification for that? Choose AT and T

1564
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:01,800
over Hoverizon. Try and remember what it was like. It

1565
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,920
was really slow because we were at a small outlet

1566
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,760
in a small town, so we would only have like

1567
01:44:08,199 --> 01:44:12,479
high you know, volume traffic like the morning in the afternoon,

1568
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,600
so you'd have like three hours of downtime, which I think,

1569
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,800
if I recall, I read quite a bit. I read

1570
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,880
all of Frank Herbert's done at the AT and T store.

1571
01:44:21,239 --> 01:44:25,520
I remember that. I remember reading that intently. I don't

1572
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:32,479
remember precepting anybody. I was not super interested in TAG

1573
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:34,319
at the time. I mean, I had new Tag since

1574
01:44:34,359 --> 01:44:37,199
the twenties, but I was in like a chasing the

1575
01:44:37,319 --> 01:44:43,800
ladies phase in twenty thirteen fourteen, So I remember I

1576
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:47,399
remember dating like three or four customers from that time period.

1577
01:44:47,399 --> 01:44:51,800
But that's about it in terms of like what was

1578
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:55,159
going on. I remember spending a lot of time in

1579
01:44:55,239 --> 01:44:58,720
Nashville at that time, because you know, small towns were

1580
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,880
dead and boring. But shy ten dollars. I made you

1581
01:45:03,159 --> 01:45:07,479
a all brick thumbnail for your future videos. That's funny.

1582
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:10,720
I'll check it out. I appreciate that, Victor G ten

1583
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,359
two dollars. What do your parents think of what you do? Well,

1584
01:45:14,399 --> 01:45:16,239
my dad is in bad health, but I think he's

1585
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:21,720
very proud of what ended up kind of being my

1586
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,520
odd career path. So I think he you know, he

1587
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:29,159
always knew that I enjoyed media type stuff, so I

1588
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:31,920
think he always wanted me to do some type of

1589
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:33,960
media work and he was always encourage me to do

1590
01:45:34,079 --> 01:45:37,800
that kind of stuff. So I think he's proud. But

1591
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,720
you know, pray for him because he's he does have

1592
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:43,720
a bad health condition. And my mom is she's very proud.

1593
01:45:44,079 --> 01:45:47,800
We've grown over the years to be more and more

1594
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,520
like minded. You know, back in my twenties, you know,

1595
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,520
we would have a lot of debates and have a

1596
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:53,920
lot of arguments. I think a lot of people in

1597
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,119
their teenage years and their twenties debate and argue with

1598
01:45:56,199 --> 01:45:59,119
their parents. I wish I had done that less now

1599
01:45:59,239 --> 01:46:02,439
than I'm older. But no, I think my parents are

1600
01:46:03,199 --> 01:46:05,359
are proud. I think they always knew I would be

1601
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,800
doing something odd because I'm kind of an oddball. But yeah,

1602
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:16,039
I think nowadays most people who maybe thought I was

1603
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:20,479
a weird, oh black sheep eccentric type person, even friends

1604
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:24,279
and family in my twenties, you know, I think they're

1605
01:46:24,319 --> 01:46:27,159
kind of surprised. But also it kind of makes sense, right.

1606
01:46:27,159 --> 01:46:30,239
The internet is perfect for the kind of stuff that

1607
01:46:30,319 --> 01:46:32,840
we do. Bmax nineteen six six ten dollars. Thank you

1608
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,920
so much, man, I appreciate that generaloss. You guys are

1609
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,920
been so generous, Like all of the super chats are

1610
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:42,840
coming in. Vlad is mad ten dollars. Sorry this off topic.

1611
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:47,199
I grew up Protestant. I was baptized as a Russian Baptist. Interesting,

1612
01:46:48,119 --> 01:46:50,880
I want to convert to Orthodoxy after watching you, But

1613
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:52,680
I've been reading the Church Fathers too. Can you point

1614
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:57,119
me to a book on icon veneration and praying to

1615
01:46:57,159 --> 01:47:00,199
the saints. Yeah, Michael Garton just put out a book

1616
01:47:00,199 --> 01:47:03,159
on icon veneration. I've got it on I've not ordered

1617
01:47:03,199 --> 01:47:06,000
it yet, but I'm looking forward to getting it. And

1618
01:47:06,159 --> 01:47:16,920
his book deals directly with the early period, right early icons,

1619
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:21,960
Christian image veneration before three twenty five ADB, and Michael Garton.

1620
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:28,000
So look for Michael's book. I've always liked Michael. I

1621
01:47:28,079 --> 01:47:31,520
think we've always we haven't interacted in many, many years,

1622
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:34,199
but I hope he's doing well, and I think people

1623
01:47:34,199 --> 01:47:35,560
should get his book. I'm sure it's going to be

1624
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,319
really good. It's on my two get list. I haven't

1625
01:47:38,359 --> 01:47:42,359
bought it yet, so I would look at that for

1626
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:45,680
early evidence. And then last, Ki Auspensky have a two

1627
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,239
volume book that's kind of a classic that's a little

1628
01:47:48,279 --> 01:47:54,680
more advanced than Michael Garton's book. I don't mean advanced

1629
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,159
like his book's low tier. I'm saying that his book

1630
01:47:57,239 --> 01:48:03,920
is directly addressing that time period, and the laws Kyospensky

1631
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,920
book is addressing the whole history of iconography in two volumes,

1632
01:48:08,119 --> 01:48:12,720
and in part two it gets really technical, it gets

1633
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:17,680
really heavy into energies. So I'm not dissing or saying

1634
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:19,720
that Michael Garton's book is not sophisticated. That's not what

1635
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:25,760
I meant straight white malt. Two dollars. Audio issues, Yeah,

1636
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:27,920
I think we saw audio issues. Bobby c two dollars.

1637
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,000
Damn Jay. When you're on the show, you were chunk tacular.

1638
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 18: I was.

1639
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:35,600
Speaker 11: I didn't know about cardboard diet. I thought that the

1640
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:41,560
way to get healthy was to just eat organic everything, right,

1641
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:48,319
So at that phase, I was eating organic pasta, organic vegetables, like,

1642
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:52,199
I wasn't eating any what I thought was junk food, right,

1643
01:48:52,199 --> 01:48:53,560
And I was like, I still can't, But I didn't

1644
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:57,000
realize that it was carbs that was the source of

1645
01:48:57,119 --> 01:49:02,199
a lot of the bloat. And thank god for Tristan

1646
01:49:02,359 --> 01:49:04,920
and Mikaela Peterson and Jordan Peterson because I listened to

1647
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:08,600
their podcasts and their talks and they changed my life

1648
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:13,560
and they saved my guts. Bobby c Oh, Yeah, come here,

1649
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,439
I was chunk tacular.

1650
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 4: Also.

1651
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 11: That was a writer around the time. I'm trying to

1652
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,079
remember if I drank. I don't think I drank beer

1653
01:49:22,359 --> 01:49:24,520
in twenty eighteen. I think I was already quitting drinking

1654
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,239
by that time. Yeah. The last though, that's right, the

1655
01:49:27,279 --> 01:49:30,840
last time I drank a beer like that, I had noticed.

1656
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:32,880
It was when my second book came out, That's t

1657
01:49:33,039 --> 01:49:36,960
Hollywood two came out and we had the book signing

1658
01:49:37,079 --> 01:49:39,720
at a local pub and brewery that a friend of

1659
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,640
mine owns. That was twenty eighteen, and that was my

1660
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:47,279
last drink. So I'm not at alcohol since twenty eighteen,

1661
01:49:48,199 --> 01:49:53,720
except for one glass when we had when we were

1662
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:57,439
with the Italian princesses, and I mean literally the Italian

1663
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:03,800
princesses I had we were at their winery out in Tuscany,

1664
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:09,640
I think when we were in Italy, and even though

1665
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:13,439
I don't drink, I did not want to be rude

1666
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:21,159
or improper in the presence of literal Italian princesses, the

1667
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:26,520
Jian Cardini Strozzi family. We're actually the thousand year rivals

1668
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:27,960
to the medicis could you not.

1669
01:50:30,079 --> 01:50:30,119
Speaker 9: So?

1670
01:50:30,359 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 11: Like, you know, you got two twin princesses offering you

1671
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:34,560
a glass of wine. You're not gonna say no. So

1672
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,000
the one glass of wine I've had in the last

1673
01:50:38,159 --> 01:50:41,800
twenty eighteen, the now with seven years eight years, seven years, yeah,

1674
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:46,159
seven years, was with two princesses, Inverted big Toe and

1675
01:50:46,239 --> 01:50:48,640
their mom who's also Italian world too, Inverted big Toe

1676
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:52,520
two dollars. No, we already read that cutting out. Kay

1677
01:50:53,199 --> 01:50:57,000
hpan to ten dollars, Jay, shout out on Canary Cry

1678
01:50:57,199 --> 01:51:00,079
Radio where I listened to you talk about as so

1679
01:51:00,199 --> 01:51:04,039
terk Hollywood. Oh that's a that's a vintage one. I

1680
01:51:04,079 --> 01:51:07,239
remember that with Gons. Yeah, shout out to Gones. He's

1681
01:51:07,239 --> 01:51:10,720
always been a cool dude and always been a bitcoin guy,

1682
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:14,600
going all the way back to Canary Cry. Probably. I

1683
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,520
wonder if that was Esotery Hollywood one or two, but

1684
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:26,840
that would be a long time ago. Yeah, Cold Quest

1685
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:28,720
five dollars. I'd love to see you chat with Brian

1686
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,600
Callen maybe on Fighter and the Kid. Uh yeah, I'd

1687
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:32,239
love to go in there.

1688
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 13: You know.

1689
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,239
Speaker 11: I did do a discussion with Brian Callen, so we

1690
01:51:35,359 --> 01:51:40,439
did uh triply when he had the old podcast with Tripoli.

1691
01:51:41,199 --> 01:51:49,039
We did a show and what's it called Conspiracy? What

1692
01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:54,399
was that show called Conspiracy Social Club? This is a

1693
01:51:54,520 --> 01:52:02,079
clip from it right here. Conspiracies. Yeah, if you go

1694
01:52:02,159 --> 01:52:06,960
to Rock Fin it's still here. We had a good time.

1695
01:52:07,039 --> 01:52:09,640
It was It was a good conversation. He gave me

1696
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,960
his phone number after this and was like, hey, next

1697
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:14,800
time you come out to l A, you know, come

1698
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:16,920
on whatever this that, and I was like, yeah, let's

1699
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:22,199
do it, and there was going to be a podcast

1700
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:27,119
with me and I think Malpass. So Brian Callen was

1701
01:52:27,159 --> 01:52:29,680
actually trying to get me and Malpass on a podcast,

1702
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:35,880
and then Malpass I think it was Malpass, don't quote me,

1703
01:52:36,119 --> 01:52:39,279
it was it was some professor atheist professor. But then

1704
01:52:39,279 --> 01:52:42,880
they couldn't do it. I don't think he was chickening out.

1705
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,760
I just think he wasn't able to because of the

1706
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:52,079
time zones. But that never came about. But yeah, I'd

1707
01:52:52,079 --> 01:52:53,600
love to go on any I'll go on any of

1708
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:57,840
the podcasts when we go out to LA so you

1709
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:08,000
can go check that out if you didn't hear it. W. S.

1710
01:53:08,079 --> 01:53:11,039
Gilbert five dollars. Do you know of any good books

1711
01:53:11,039 --> 01:53:14,159
and resources about the essence Inervi Sinction? Probably the best

1712
01:53:14,319 --> 01:53:17,159
to start with would be Dialogue between Orthodox and Obarleymite,

1713
01:53:18,359 --> 01:53:21,479
because it's just the classic debate on the subject between

1714
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:34,039
PAULA Moss and a Barleyminte. Dialogue between Orthodox and Obarlamite.

1715
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:38,720
You can get it from s and UI Press right here.

1716
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:41,680
It's funny. It used to be twenty dollars, now it's

1717
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:47,399
thirty one. Interesting and you know there's other texts as well.

1718
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:52,239
You can read Doctor David Bradshaw's books are necessary reading

1719
01:53:52,319 --> 01:53:56,359
for this, especially Divine Energies in Divine Action by Doctor

1720
01:53:56,439 --> 01:54:06,680
David Bradshaw. If you guys want to see me on

1721
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,960
Fighter and the Kid, you can just you know, message

1722
01:54:10,039 --> 01:54:15,479
in the comments, tell them to have me on or whatever.

1723
01:54:16,399 --> 01:54:18,800
I don't know if I still have Brian Kellen's cell

1724
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:20,760
phone number, I'm gonna have it. Let me see that

1725
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:26,039
was a few years ago. He might not even have

1726
01:54:26,159 --> 01:54:30,199
the same cell phone number, so let's see. Jamie Kennedy

1727
01:54:30,279 --> 01:54:31,840
did just text me and say that he wants to

1728
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:38,439
do a chat, So let me text Brian Callen. Let's

1729
01:54:38,439 --> 01:54:53,680
see if he's willing to do it. Coming to California

1730
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:55,840
next month. Would love to do a podcast chat. If

1731
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:59,720
you guys need a guest. It's a good way to

1732
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,439
put it. And he probably don't remember who I am,

1733
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:08,279
so let me put this is Jay Dyer. Oh yeah,

1734
01:55:12,119 --> 01:55:17,479
Jamie Kennedy, Yes, let's do a podcast. Awesome, so look

1735
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:22,960
for We're gonna have a wild month whatever podcast, Jamie Kennedy,

1736
01:55:24,359 --> 01:55:35,600
Hodge Twins Ruslan. I feel like I'm missing something, Tinpole

1737
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:41,920
Hat it'll be wild boy be wild Son, All right,

1738
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,960
where we at cold quest? Now we did that because

1739
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:48,159
that break companion five dollars. You need a grift like

1740
01:55:48,279 --> 01:55:55,359
Andrew to get bucks rolling in perfect one. Muting yourself

1741
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:58,039
and people will send super chest to tell your muted it. Well,

1742
01:55:58,039 --> 01:56:01,920
that's what I said last night. I said, I'm gonna

1743
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:07,399
mute myself more and then because everybody sends super Chest

1744
01:56:07,479 --> 01:56:10,319
telling me to unmute. It was just a silly joke.

1745
01:56:10,399 --> 01:56:13,039
Jordan and five dollars. Could you react to the Nectal

1746
01:56:13,119 --> 01:56:18,800
video with the Nonchalcedonian I guess since everybody keeps asking

1747
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:22,960
about it, I just I'm not super hyped about it

1748
01:56:23,119 --> 01:56:27,039
because I wish it was real, you know, like orthodox

1749
01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:32,000
people that we're doing it. But hey, Jamie, oh that's right,

1750
01:56:32,079 --> 01:56:38,159
she's not here shout out to you. We got a

1751
01:56:39,039 --> 01:56:40,800
I think we had up to about two thousand to day,

1752
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:47,159
maybe we hit pretty close to that. Is the internet

1753
01:56:47,239 --> 01:56:49,199
cutting out right now, So it's it seems like there's

1754
01:56:49,279 --> 01:56:53,239
a little bit of choppy internet waves. H Brossey ten dollars.

1755
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,319
The real Diarites know that as soon as you bring

1756
01:56:55,439 --> 01:56:59,479
up Hollywood Decoded, it's gonna be a twenty minute rundown

1757
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:04,600
at viewing. You left out the part wearing that guy's

1758
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:07,399
suit this time, though, I don't have to go through

1759
01:57:07,439 --> 01:57:10,600
that whole story if you'll are sick of it. But yeah,

1760
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:12,399
one day I came with the wrong color clothes and

1761
01:57:12,479 --> 01:57:16,319
I had to wear what's that lunatic's name, the guy

1762
01:57:16,399 --> 01:57:24,159
with the giant head, new age dude with the big head. Oh,

1763
01:57:24,279 --> 01:57:29,319
David Wilcox. I had to wear David Wilcox suit. So

1764
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:32,199
my cock has been in the same place as David

1765
01:57:32,239 --> 01:57:38,960
Wilcox Cox. Yes two. As a joke, I did have

1766
01:57:39,039 --> 01:57:41,479
to wear his pants in his suit though it's kind

1767
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:43,800
of like a silver Spacey suit. That was kind of cool,

1768
01:57:44,359 --> 01:57:50,840
felt like I was from the Pliades. Cool baracude. Three

1769
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:52,920
dollars take you her the resources. If I wouldcome EO

1770
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:54,920
would be okay to go to the Roman calog Mass. No,

1771
01:57:55,079 --> 01:57:58,079
you cannot. My grandmother goes to mass. I go with her.

1772
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:02,439
You might get a permission from your spiritual father to attend,

1773
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:06,760
but you can't participate in the liturgy. She's a Mexican granny.

1774
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:08,520
I'm trying to push her towards Orthodoxy. It would be

1775
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:11,960
like trying to give a mule I understand, and sometimes

1776
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:14,680
your spiritual father in those kinds of situations will give

1777
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:18,319
you the blessing to to do that kind of stuff.

1778
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:21,520
You just have to not like act, you can't take communion,

1779
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:23,479
and you have to not actively like you know, profess

1780
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:27,359
the creed with the Roman galax. But there can be

1781
01:58:27,439 --> 01:58:32,840
situations where they allow you to attend. Jordaane two dollars.

1782
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:35,039
Brian Callen lives in Austin. Now, Oh, okay, didn't know that,

1783
01:58:35,319 --> 01:58:37,720
so I guess that won't work. Well, actually, we will

1784
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:41,359
probably drive out there. If we drive, it might be

1785
01:58:41,439 --> 01:58:42,920
on the way. It depends on It depends on what

1786
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:47,760
way we go. I don't know. Jordaan two dollars, No bro,

1787
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:55,239
his initial convo, his cope about it. Oh, you're saying

1788
01:58:55,319 --> 01:58:59,319
I should go back on Brian Callen's podcast to discuss

1789
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:04,000
the that we were debating conspiracies on the old podcast. Yeah,

1790
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:07,840
I'm open to talk about whatever. Eddie Bravo is my

1791
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,720
jiu jitsu coach, coach. He's pretty deep into conspiracies. I've

1792
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:15,600
been on Eddie Bravo's podcast twice. He's been recently getting

1793
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,600
into Christianityack can ask him. Uh, yeah, I would go

1794
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:21,600
on Eddie's podcast again. I've been on there. If you

1795
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:25,039
go to rock Finn, I think I'm one of the

1796
01:59:25,159 --> 01:59:28,359
top because he had me on like his like third

1797
01:59:28,439 --> 01:59:32,600
or fourth podcast, So I think I'm one of the

1798
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:37,279
top ones. If you come over to rock Finn, which

1799
01:59:37,399 --> 01:59:40,079
is a great free speech based platform that's still there,

1800
01:59:40,159 --> 01:59:43,560
look at me on number three. So Eddie Bravo's number

1801
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:47,279
three podcast of all time is Me and Tripoli number one,

1802
01:59:47,399 --> 01:59:52,000
Santos Bonacci number two, Lord Voldemort number three, Me and

1803
01:59:52,079 --> 01:59:58,319
Triple Lee. Then Alex Stein, Bryce Mitchell, James Watson, Isaac

1804
01:59:58,359 --> 02:00:03,800
Weisshopp so, and then I was on again. And the

1805
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:07,560
funny part about the second time I was on was me, Uh,

1806
02:00:09,479 --> 02:00:12,359
I forgot about Eddie Bravo. He's in Is he in La?

1807
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:14,920
I think he's in La. Oh, that's right. Last time

1808
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:16,640
we were in California for our event, we went to

1809
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:21,720
see Eddie Bravo's band play. That was pretty wild. I

1810
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:24,319
have Eddie Bravo's number. I could text him about that. Yeah,

1811
02:00:26,239 --> 02:00:29,399
thank you for mentioning that I forgot about Eddie. I

1812
02:00:29,439 --> 02:00:31,880
don't know if he does impoc in person podcast would

1813
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:34,840
be fun. If he does. I played pay Piggy for him,

1814
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:37,439
and he it's like, I don't I don't think he

1815
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:40,239
got what I was after with pay Piggy, but he

1816
02:00:40,279 --> 02:00:43,680
thought it was funny. He was like, uh ooh, pay Piggy.

1817
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:51,479
That are against the system, against the establishment. But almost

1818
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:54,640
all of the really important players in that Laurel Canyon

1819
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:58,560
scene come from not just high level military families or

1820
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:02,520
government connected families, but like intelligence families. That's the weird part,

1821
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:04,560
just like it's a lot of people who you know,

1822
02:01:04,680 --> 02:01:07,319
have these high level intelligences families. That's where.

1823
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 21: Ways I mean, uh, you know, you got the the

1824
02:01:13,399 --> 02:01:20,720
mainstream story, which is he's Satanic and he ordered uh

1825
02:01:21,119 --> 02:01:24,800
you know, his cult to kill Sharon Tate and all

1826
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:29,119
those people up at that uh Colo drive house, and

1827
02:01:29,239 --> 02:01:32,279
then he ordered them to kill the the Lobbiancas and

1828
02:01:32,279 --> 02:01:34,600
all that and that whole mainstream narrative.

1829
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 16: But then you hear you know, you.

1830
02:01:38,479 --> 02:01:44,920
Speaker 21: Know he was basically he was in jail's whole life.

1831
02:01:45,279 --> 02:01:47,119
He was accustomed to be in jail. He would rather

1832
02:01:47,159 --> 02:01:49,039
be in jail. He's been in and out of prison

1833
02:01:49,119 --> 02:01:53,680
his whole life, and they used him like one conspiracy

1834
02:01:53,720 --> 02:02:00,680
theory is the CIA or whoever taught him and Kultra

1835
02:02:02,039 --> 02:02:06,600
mind control techniques and you got him out of jail,

1836
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:13,039
funded him and basically Charles Manson wasn't an experiment.

1837
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:18,319
Speaker 11: I forgot. We talked about that Tom O'Neill stuff. Yeah,

1838
02:02:18,359 --> 02:02:21,119
that was a fun podcast that was three years ago.

1839
02:02:21,359 --> 02:02:23,840
That was wild. And then I went back on there

1840
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:26,439
with I don't think Tripley was on the next time

1841
02:02:26,479 --> 02:02:28,119
it was just me. May have been Tripley, I can't remember.

1842
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:32,479
And we talked about Paypiggy. It was funny. But yeah.

1843
02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:34,760
You can follow me also over here at rock fin

1844
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:40,560
as well as Sam Tripley, Eddie Bravo, Whitney Webb, Richard Grove,

1845
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:46,000
Jason Burmas, all of our bros and sistas, all of

1846
02:02:46,039 --> 02:02:48,560
our friends also over at Rockfinn. If you're looking for

1847
02:02:49,359 --> 02:02:54,119
an alternative, free speech based platform, Rockfinn is one of

1848
02:02:54,199 --> 02:02:57,680
those excellent outlets. You can follow me and subscribe there.

1849
02:03:05,239 --> 02:03:07,359
I read the first few chapters of Chaos. I didn't

1850
02:03:07,399 --> 02:03:09,760
finish it, not because I didn't want to or didn't

1851
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:13,079
like it. I just got busy. But I would like

1852
02:03:13,119 --> 02:03:14,760
to get back to Chaos. That would be a good

1853
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:16,199
one to cover well.

1854
02:03:16,399 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 16: I mean, the the argument from Israel would why do

1855
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:23,119
you think in just the last seven days eight thousand.

1856
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Speaker 11: We're gonna get through this clip here with Dave Smith

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on Rogan.

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Speaker 16: Eventually I would say, okay, I think that the disengagement.

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I think Smotrich was correct when he said, I'm sorry

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my mistake there. I think the which another quote that

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I'm sure you're familiar with. But Douve Weis Clapp, who

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was the senior advisor to Sharon was the Prime Minister

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at the time. He essentially said, the reason we're doing

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the disengagement, the reason we're doing this is so that

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we can put the peace process in formaldehyde. This is

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the reason we're not asking my question. I'm getting the

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right wing is really posted. But what I'm getting this

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reason I'm getting there. I'm saying, So, I think they

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disengaged in order to kill the peace process. I think

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they put the full blockade around the.

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Speaker 11: I don't know what you're talking about running from Sam.

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We offered to do the debate on the Crucible and

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they won't do it. I mean, you can look at

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what I've posted right here. He himself said, set up

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the debate on the Crucible. All Burke said he debate

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any topic So where do you get the idea that

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I'm running from him? And we've been asking multiple times

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to come to debate on the Crucible. That's what they

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said they would be willing to do all Burg said

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he would to make money any topic. Sam Chumunn said

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thirteen fifteen hours ago, he's willing to debate on the Crucible.

1882
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Now they won't do it. So what are you talking

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about that I'm running. Here's the offer right here, Kai

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and I will debate Sam Schmun and Albert on the

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Crucible on their inconsistent ac Leae position and their pre

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post Vatican two contradictions. The debate must be formal with

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cross examinations on the Crucible right there where? And what

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basis do you have that I'm running when I literally

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asked him last night to go to the Crucible to debate,

1890
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I mean, what does that have to do with if

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Andrew Wilson? How is even if Andrew Wilson's bad faith?

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Why was Shamun saying last night to do the debate

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on the Crucible and I said, Art, let's go over there.

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I called him three times during my stream last night

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to debate, and he wouldn't do it. And then I said, Okay,

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I'll go to the Crucible. You get Albrecht, I said,

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Albrecht and Shimun last night, can go to the Crucible

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and we'll do it. Look what did he say last night? Crucible?

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Tell the dog gay Liar to agree to debate William

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Albrecht in the near future. Okay, we did it right here,

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Kai and I offered debate Shmuna Albret on the Crucible.

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How many more offers? Sam did not say the debate

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on the Crucible? Can you read what it says right here?

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You can't read. They're at the Crucible, so you're just

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gonna lie? Do you have me to make it big?

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Can you not read that? Look? What is it sir?

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Here at the Crucible? Tell gay Liar to agree to

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debate right there? What do you mean he didn't say

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the Crucible? It's right there. Why would I not debate

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on the largest, fastest growing debate platform and they say

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I have to go to some rando unknown Catholic channel

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to do it. Why it's he I'm agreeing to what

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he said, like thirteen twenty hours ago, whenever it was

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he said this last night at the Crucible. Tell gay

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Liar to debate William Albrick. Okay, let's do it. Here's

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the offer, Kai and I will debate shamun and all

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brickt on the Crucible. All Brick said he would debate

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me on any topic. Let's do the inconsistency of the

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Assyrian Church of the East position and second less debate

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pre impost Vatican to contradictions. And then what did Sam

1921
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do to make sure that that didn't happen? He went

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after Andrew for no reason. Andrew invited Sam shamun On

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and William albert On to debate me. So Sam attacks

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Andrew for no reason. I don't debate on modern a debate.

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I'm not going back on modern a debate.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 11: That guy, for no reason, just decided that he doesn't

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like me. I've never said anything bad about it. I've

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never talked about anything. I only debate on my channel,

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Jake Rattlesnake or Crucible. And I'm already debating apostate profit

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on Rattlesnake channel. So my offer is this, And there's

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no reason, there's no real coherent reason that they can't

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do a debate on the Crucible when they literally said

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they wanted on the crucible. So these people play games.

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This is what Albricks has always done. Did I not

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tell you guys at the beginning of the stream last night?

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This is what Albrick has always done. In twenty nineteen,

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I tried to schedule a debate with Albrick. He said

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it has to be in person or on radio. I'm

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like radio person, it's the Internet age. What are you

1941
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talking about? Then he says, okay, give me six months.

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Six months later, Hey, a lot of stuff's come up.

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I don't give you another three months right. Oh hey,

1944
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I can't do it. I need more time. So I

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just gave up. And then Albricks says, you run away,

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you won't debate. The reason UBI said he's not interested

1947
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in debating with Albrick is because Albrick does the did

1948
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the same thing to him, and then they say, oh

1949
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you see how they run? See how they run? Show

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the comments of Andrew Wilson responding to Sam, I don't

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know where, but I mean this person is having like

1952
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a straight up meltdown. Do the people in his chat

1953
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not see what? Don't they don't they can't recognize like

1954
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a manic episode? First of all, why does he think

1955
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that dust particles are miraculous signs that he's a prophet

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and that God's angels are with him. You know, he

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believes that about these quote orbs that are literally just

1958
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dust particles in his ratty ass cat infested apartment, so

1959
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cat hair flies past his camera, and he literally thinks

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that the orb dust angels catnip angels are like blessing him.

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And he's doing everything he can to make sure that

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we don't even want to interact with him because he's

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so nasty, because he doesn't want to have a debate

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about the topics.

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Speaker 17: Yes, while seeing the splintered the eyes of others, filthy,

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wicked orthobros, you guys, you are a cancer dude.

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Speaker 18: May God cut you off permanently in Jesus name.

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Speaker 17: Rightness, while seeing the splintered the eyes of others, filthy

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wicked orthobros, You guys, you are a cancer dude.

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Speaker 18: May God cut you off permanently in Jesus name.

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Speaker 11: Where does he think he gets the does he? I

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think he thinks he really is a prophet, Like he

1973
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thinks he is some sort of ordained, self appointed prophet

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and he has the authority to cut people off of

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the church or the I mean he's just insane, Like

1976
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he's literally having a manic episode.

1977
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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 11: He hads that he has the narcissistic problems which led

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to his divorce, and he prophesied that Jamie will leave

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me for the prophecy.

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Speaker 18: You guys ready because he's a narcissist. Okay, watch what's

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gonna happen.

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Speaker 17: You're ready for the prophecy because I've seen this sadly,

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I have to live with this for ten years and it's.

1985
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Speaker 18: Turned me to a bitter man.

1986
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Speaker 11: Well, there you go, and he's a bitter person.

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Speaker 18: Jay gay liar.

1988
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Speaker 17: Here's what's gonna happen. You're not gonna last in your marriage.

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Your marriage is gonna end.

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Speaker 5: Listen.

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Speaker 17: Not wishing it on you, God knows. I don't wish

1992
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to son anyone. But because you're a sick demon, you're

1993
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full of satan, You're a scum narcissist.

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Speaker 11: This so for those of you that can't recognize a

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manic episod, So I mean, why like, why are you

1996
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even here? Like, go follow your guy, go to Rome.

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I mean Rome is perfect for you, guys. Rome is

1998
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full of pre last, full of charismatic delusions, full of

1999
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leather daddies so Albert can have his full of leather

2000
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daddies sat Vdal's two dollars. I love your work, Do

2001
02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:29,399
not fall for Appeal to the orb Fallacy Nney part

2002
02:13:29,439 --> 02:13:32,199
of ten dollars Day. I'm a lifelong Orthodox. I'm curious

2003
02:13:32,199 --> 02:13:34,520
if you know what happened to Sam Shamun.

2004
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

2005
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Speaker 11: He used to be very good, especially when he would

2006
02:13:41,159 --> 02:13:44,239
debate with David Wood. Now he's lost his mind. What

2007
02:13:44,359 --> 02:13:48,319
happened to him? I don't know, clown mode ten dollars.

2008
02:13:48,479 --> 02:13:50,840
I first encountered you when you debated Redeem Zumer. Thanks

2009
02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:52,600
for everything that you do, Hey, thank you appreciate that.

2010
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Bobby c Haha. There's no ginger choose or expresses for

2011
02:13:56,279 --> 02:14:01,119
you today, exactly, scumba bear ten dollars. It's so weird

2012
02:14:01,159 --> 02:14:05,439
that Sam went after Andrew and then he apologized to Andrew,

2013
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and then he edited the post and now he's mad

2014
02:14:08,439 --> 02:14:14,680
at Andrew again. This is like bipolar disorder. So if

2015
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you can't recognize bipolar, that's what's going on.

2016
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Speaker 16: In the stream.

2017
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Speaker 11: The initial stream from a couple of days ago, where

2018
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he was saying that there's Protestants that are having better

2019
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trinitarian presentations than the Catholics. The Catholics are good here

2020
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but weak here. I said that, well, the problem is

2021
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just that neither of them have a good model. And

2022
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I'd like for you. I invited him and Albreck to

2023
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come have a time response, that's all.

2024
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Speaker 13: It was.

2025
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Speaker 11: Like, a like, why would he not want to have

2026
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a time response that way, nobody talks to everybody. Palamas

2027
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is claiming that Muslims worship the same God according to Sam,

2028
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I mean, that's just insane. I mean, Palamas has an

2029
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entire apologetic against Muslims in the Norman Russell text. He

2030
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doesn't know anything about Palamas. I mean, you heard him

2031
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blaspheming the energies right. My original question to him, which

2032
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made him so mad, was why don't you and Albrick

2033
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come debate energies on my channel? And it can be

2034
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timed in that way, it's civil exchange. And that's all

2035
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it took for him to have this entire two day meltdown.

2036
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And so I gave it some time yesterday until I

2037
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waited till the evening, and I messaged him on Skype. Right,

2038
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and again here here's another meltdown. This is how when

2039
02:15:51,119 --> 02:15:54,000
you respond when you ask him and you say, let's

2040
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just have a civil conversation. We can pick where to

2041
02:15:57,960 --> 02:15:59,920
do it where there's timed responses. That was what I

2042
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asked him again. So this is the third time. The

2043
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second time. First time I ask him for debate is

2044
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in the morning, second time at night. Here's his response

2045
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last night, we're gonna call you out.

2046
02:16:12,239 --> 02:16:16,199
Speaker 18: We're gonna get you. Don't worry about it now, girl, get.

2047
02:16:16,159 --> 02:16:16,880
Speaker 4: Some more energies.

2048
02:16:18,119 --> 02:16:19,840
Speaker 11: Get some more energies. Maybe we'll help you. So he

2049
02:16:20,119 --> 02:16:22,479
thinks the divine energy just this laughable thing, and that's

2050
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why he's going after Palomas today. So he doesn't realize

2051
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he's literally burning his own idiotic bridges when when he

2052
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finds out that all the Eastern Catholics also believe in Palomas,

2053
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he's also going to alienate all them, which is just

2054
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stupid on his part and is a cumunust. Vatican, by

2055
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the way, admits that Palomas can be revered as a saint,

2056
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so he doesn't even know any of that though that's

2057
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all new to him.

2058
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Speaker 17: Like I said, thanks for the received, bab, I want

2059
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to show them more random want.

2060
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Speaker 11: So he thinks that we're running when we keep asking

2061
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This is two days in a row now of me

2062
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multiple times four times now asking to do a public debate.

2063
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The first time was in the morning. I asked him

2064
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and William Albrecht to have a civil timed response on

2065
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my channel over these issues. He flips out, says, I'm

2066
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manifesting and I'm a demon because I'm messaging while he's streaming.

2067
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Don't look at your phone if he's a distraction. I

2068
02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:26,840
message him later that night and I say, let's have

2069
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a civil discussion on this. It's all I said.

2070
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Speaker 8: This is his.

2071
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Speaker 11: Response, and there's a whole bunch more. It's about twenty

2072
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more of his insane I mean not literally twenty, there's

2073
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probably five more of his just insane. When you ask

2074
02:17:38,799 --> 02:17:41,000
him this. When he gets into this mode, all he

2075
02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:43,280
does is just cuts you out and just sail this

2076
02:17:43,360 --> 02:17:46,399
nonsense right. So it's not even worth interacting with him

2077
02:17:46,399 --> 02:17:49,120
at this point because he's he's bipolar. You can all

2078
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:51,159
see if you don't know what bipolar is, this is it,

2079
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:56,559
and it's manic. It's manic bipolar, and this is called

2080
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a manic episode. What you're seeing all because I just

2081
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asked him and Albert to come debate these topics in

2082
02:18:05,479 --> 02:18:08,239
a civil way. And by the way, I asked him

2083
02:18:08,280 --> 02:18:12,120
and Albert to come debate me two on one. It

2084
02:18:12,239 --> 02:18:14,559
just has to be time so that we don't yap

2085
02:18:14,639 --> 02:18:17,879
and yellow for each other. Right, So all of this

2086
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has been to create smoke and mirror to avoid actually

2087
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debating the topics which he doesn't know. And that's why

2088
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the first thing he does is try to run to

2089
02:18:26,479 --> 02:18:30,120
any dirt, any drama. He goes to theoria. I mean

2090
02:18:30,239 --> 02:18:32,760
that dude doesn't even write it anymore. He retired because

2091
02:18:33,040 --> 02:18:35,799
he embarrassed himself. Nobody takes that dude Ben, whatever his

2092
02:18:35,879 --> 02:18:38,719
name was, seriously. He quit writing. He went to go

2093
02:18:38,840 --> 02:18:44,479
make hipster video projects. He doesn't do online drama anymore.

2094
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So this is the second offer to debate. Last night,

2095
02:18:53,799 --> 02:19:00,360
when I'm doing my stream critiquing them, he says, come debate. Scared.

2096
02:19:01,239 --> 02:19:05,639
I call on Skype three times. He won't answer. I

2097
02:19:05,799 --> 02:19:09,520
say send me the stream yard link. I don't go

2098
02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:12,120
on stream Yard. I say put the link here in

2099
02:19:12,200 --> 02:19:14,239
the chat. He doesn't reply. This is on Skype. Okay.

2100
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Then it's come to the crucible. Andrew is live. Come

2101
02:19:20,760 --> 02:19:23,680
we'll all hop on the crucible. I say, let's go

2102
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:25,440
go get Albert, let's go in the Crucible. They won't

2103
02:19:25,440 --> 02:19:40,159
do it. Fourth time today, fourth offer today, Kai and

2104
02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:43,239
I will debate Sam Shimun and Albert on the Crucible,

2105
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the very place that Sam Shimun originally said he wants

2106
02:19:47,440 --> 02:19:51,319
to do a debate. Why do you think he's going

2107
02:19:51,399 --> 02:19:53,799
after Andrew so that Andrew won't have him on? Do

2108
02:19:53,799 --> 02:19:57,440
you see a pattern here? Every opportunity that actually arises,

2109
02:19:58,079 --> 02:20:01,280
he then has a nasty melt down so that it

2110
02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:03,639
won't happen in that way, there won't be a debate there,

2111
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:07,000
so that he can eventually just have some random, random

2112
02:20:07,079 --> 02:20:09,799
Catholic guy who nobody knows. And then when I say

2113
02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:11,760
I'm not going on that random news channel, oh look

2114
02:20:11,799 --> 02:20:16,239
at you running. So if you're claiming that I'm running

2115
02:20:16,319 --> 02:20:20,280
after four offers to debate after he won't answer three

2116
02:20:20,360 --> 02:20:22,959
skype calls where he can stream and I can stream

2117
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:29,479
the same time, where's the evidence that I'm running? You

2118
02:20:29,559 --> 02:20:32,479
understand that Shamun himself has said he doesn't have the

2119
02:20:32,559 --> 02:20:36,120
capabilities to answer these questions. That's why I told him

2120
02:20:36,159 --> 02:20:41,680
to bring Albrecht. I've asked four times to debate them both.

2121
02:20:46,200 --> 02:20:49,639
Now he's made up with Andrew again. He's just doing

2122
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:51,559
this so that Andrew will get tired of him, and

2123
02:20:51,600 --> 02:20:54,719
then he can say that Andrew's a bad person and

2124
02:20:55,159 --> 02:20:57,920
it has to be a debate on whatever. He'd all

2125
02:20:58,000 --> 02:20:59,719
the same stuff to Nick Flints. I'm sure he did.

2126
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:05,079
I'm sure he did. Imagine Peter called Paul a demon

2127
02:21:05,319 --> 02:21:11,520
in a gay when Paul was trying to correct him. Well,

2128
02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:15,520
i mean, who's actually acted like they have a manifestation.

2129
02:21:17,239 --> 02:21:20,200
Who's the one that says he wants to see the

2130
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:20,840
death of all the.

2131
02:21:20,920 --> 02:21:23,680
Speaker 17: Organizers while seeing the splinter of the eyes of others?

2132
02:21:25,079 --> 02:21:28,559
Falthy wicked orthobros? You guys, you are a cancer dude.

2133
02:21:28,799 --> 02:21:31,440
May God cut you off prominently.

2134
02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:31,760
Speaker 4: In Jesus nay.

2135
02:21:32,879 --> 02:21:35,920
Speaker 11: So, this is a person with severe delusions, manic, bipolar,

2136
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:40,440
and he's having an episode. It's that simple. I mean,

2137
02:21:40,600 --> 02:21:44,799
who comes on a podcast to try to curse people's

2138
02:21:44,920 --> 02:21:49,520
marriage and wish all the orthobros to die. It's just

2139
02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:52,079
it's just insane. And if you can't recognize it, like

2140
02:21:53,079 --> 02:21:57,000
you deserve you deserve Rome and you deserve Shimun. That's

2141
02:21:57,040 --> 02:22:05,920
what you get. That's what you deserve. William is a

2142
02:22:05,959 --> 02:22:08,840
good man. You guys are crazy. Get out of here.

2143
02:22:12,120 --> 02:22:14,040
I don't. It doesn't matter if Muslims are having a

2144
02:22:14,079 --> 02:22:26,719
field day. So no, Shamun would not do anything with

2145
02:22:27,559 --> 02:22:37,520
nick Flints. So where's the evidence that I'm running from

2146
02:22:37,520 --> 02:22:44,760
a debate? This is the fourth offer to debate. Let's

2147
02:22:44,760 --> 02:22:47,440
go back for I mean, all this dramas of is

2148
02:22:47,479 --> 02:22:50,079
stupid anyway. I mean, look, here's what's going to happen.

2149
02:22:51,479 --> 02:22:54,319
We all know he's going to run off William Albrett.

2150
02:22:56,079 --> 02:23:00,239
So I mean, when a person is this unhinged, they're

2151
02:23:00,280 --> 02:23:02,440
their own worst enemy. But they can't even see it for.

2152
02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:04,440
Speaker 16: The reason that they've always kind of done it there

2153
02:23:04,479 --> 02:23:06,079
that Yeah, they don't want too much stuff getting in.

2154
02:23:06,200 --> 02:23:07,959
They want to keep them as they put it on

2155
02:23:08,079 --> 02:23:11,000
a diet, and they don't want rockets to fly into Israel.

2156
02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:14,000
Speaker 19: The second one is a kind of important one, isn't it?

2157
02:23:14,040 --> 02:23:15,120
Speaker 11: The final Yes, it is.

2158
02:23:16,239 --> 02:23:21,239
Speaker 19: If the Palestinian leadership in Gaza after two thousand and

2159
02:23:21,319 --> 02:23:27,000
five had not from the get go decided to use

2160
02:23:27,200 --> 02:23:31,399
Gaza as a stockpiling place for rockets to fire into Israel,

2161
02:23:31,959 --> 02:23:34,680
all of it would be different if they had just

2162
02:23:34,879 --> 02:23:37,120
resisted the temptation that so many of us do in

2163
02:23:37,159 --> 02:23:41,159
our lives to stop keeping RPGs in our cellars and

2164
02:23:41,280 --> 02:23:44,360
then katusha rockets in our children's bedrooms. All of it

2165
02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:48,559
could have been different. If that desire to live in

2166
02:23:48,719 --> 02:23:54,200
peace beside your neighbors had superseded the desire to stockpile rockets.

2167
02:23:54,879 --> 02:23:56,680
It would all be different.

2168
02:23:57,120 --> 02:23:59,879
Speaker 16: Israelsriied them for sixty years, It would all be different.

2169
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:07,399
Speaker 19: Always, Well, you believe in self determination, I'm sure, yes,

2170
02:24:07,440 --> 02:24:10,559
I believe in individual rights. Yeah, ok, individual rights, and

2171
02:24:10,680 --> 02:24:13,000
that includes the right to make bad decisions.

2172
02:24:13,360 --> 02:24:17,440
Speaker 11: Here we go, yes, the Palestinians. And he got I mean,

2173
02:24:17,719 --> 02:24:20,200
here's your here's your leather daddy. Tell me this is

2174
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:24,079
not this is so leather daddy. Dude, Look at that,

2175
02:24:25,760 --> 02:24:29,440
the stupid ass AI picture of him in this tight

2176
02:24:29,639 --> 02:24:36,959
leather black outfit motorcycle leather daddy outfit. I mean, come on, dude,

2177
02:24:38,399 --> 02:24:46,000
tell me that's not a leather daddy. And by the way,

2178
02:24:46,040 --> 02:24:52,600
who uses AI softening technology on their profiles? By the way,

2179
02:24:52,639 --> 02:24:58,879
which he does. Look at this, He's like, I don't

2180
02:24:58,879 --> 02:24:59,680
know how old he is.

2181
02:25:02,120 --> 02:25:02,600
Speaker 4: My age?

2182
02:25:27,239 --> 02:25:29,040
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, here he is saying what he would do

2183
02:25:29,079 --> 02:25:35,000
in person, right, I found us. By the way, this

2184
02:25:35,079 --> 02:25:39,200
is from a long time ago. Don't worry, let die

2185
02:25:39,319 --> 02:25:41,920
or no, I would bully him in person, not just

2186
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:46,799
behind the computer. Oh oh, what does that mean, leather daddy?

2187
02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:54,200
Where is his profile? Trying to fund his profile. By

2188
02:25:54,239 --> 02:25:56,879
the way, here's his classic Nestorian statement. If you didn't know,

2189
02:25:58,559 --> 02:26:00,799
these guys are hilarious. They don't know the christology. The

2190
02:26:00,879 --> 02:26:06,920
Syrian Church is correct. I was going to defend the

2191
02:26:06,920 --> 02:26:09,639
Assyrian Church at ease. They refuse to face me. This

2192
02:26:09,799 --> 02:26:11,760
is the fourth time we've offered to debate you in

2193
02:26:11,840 --> 02:26:16,200
the last few days. This was from twenty twenty one.

2194
02:26:16,280 --> 02:26:22,440
By the way, I'm trying to find his actual profile

2195
02:26:22,520 --> 02:26:25,040
because he's got this like filter that he used. It's

2196
02:26:25,079 --> 02:26:32,319
funny watch this. Yeah, that is not what he looks like.

2197
02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:39,120
He's like photoshops his uh face to be all smooth, right,

2198
02:26:42,040 --> 02:26:46,440
and it fits perfectly with this leather daddy ethos right.

2199
02:26:55,280 --> 02:27:03,440
Speaker 19: Anyway, as when they voted in Jamaz made a very

2200
02:27:03,520 --> 02:27:04,159
bad decision.

2201
02:27:04,239 --> 02:27:06,559
Speaker 16: Yeah, of course, hang on, yes, hang on.

2202
02:27:07,239 --> 02:27:10,639
Speaker 19: And in the years after that, they made bad decision

2203
02:27:10,760 --> 02:27:14,719
after bad decision. It was a very bad decision to

2204
02:27:14,840 --> 02:27:18,040
continually fire thousands of rockets into Israel.

2205
02:27:18,200 --> 02:27:21,559
Speaker 11: It was a very you're wondering why we would why

2206
02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:25,200
he would defend the Nestorian Chris uh shirt. It's because

2207
02:27:25,239 --> 02:27:29,200
he's he's a Roman Catholic. Roman Catholics have revised and

2208
02:27:29,319 --> 02:27:34,000
rejected Ephesus. They think Ephesus was wrong. You've heard Voice

2209
02:27:34,040 --> 02:27:45,079
of Reason say it. William is live waiting for me

2210
02:27:45,200 --> 02:27:48,559
to debate. They asked for a neutral platform. Are you

2211
02:27:48,600 --> 02:27:52,479
guys serious? This is so ridiculous. Is William going to

2212
02:27:52,520 --> 02:27:56,840
come to my channel? Of course not. We've offered four

2213
02:27:56,959 --> 02:28:02,959
times to do debates. The last offer is on a

2214
02:28:03,079 --> 02:28:13,520
public platform. All they have to do is tell Andrew

2215
02:28:13,559 --> 02:28:20,319
when they want to do it. Let's do it. What

2216
02:28:20,600 --> 02:28:27,120
did Andrew say? You guys keep asking me to pull

2217
02:28:27,159 --> 02:28:27,479
this up.

2218
02:28:42,959 --> 02:28:43,399
Speaker 4: Does he not.

2219
02:28:43,520 --> 02:28:49,239
Speaker 11: Understand that the Russian Orthodox Church is not a papacy

2220
02:28:49,479 --> 02:28:53,760
like the MP isn't the pope And if they do this,

2221
02:28:55,399 --> 02:28:58,959
it's just as wrong as the papacy. But I don't

2222
02:28:59,040 --> 02:29:07,920
have the same ecclesiology as the papists. What is this nonsense?

2223
02:29:09,920 --> 02:29:11,479
Look at look at this guy's spurging out.

2224
02:29:12,319 --> 02:29:12,920
Speaker 4: What is this?

2225
02:29:17,559 --> 02:29:29,920
Speaker 11: Where is the Andrews section? I mean, all these arguments

2226
02:29:30,040 --> 02:29:33,840
might be good arguments if the papacy, if the Patriarchate

2227
02:29:34,239 --> 02:29:40,000
of Russia was the papacy, but is it under this one.

2228
02:29:40,079 --> 02:29:46,360
Let's see if it's under this one, Crucible, Andrew, it

2229
02:29:46,360 --> 02:29:48,680
seems unreasonable to think I would have the backstron all this.

2230
02:29:48,840 --> 02:29:50,559
All I said was I was willing to host a

2231
02:29:50,600 --> 02:29:53,000
debate as I was live at this time. I didn't

2232
02:29:53,000 --> 02:29:55,559
say negative about either party. I'm happy to moderate a

2233
02:29:55,639 --> 02:30:00,479
future debate. Sam liked that comment. My apology, brother, I

2234
02:30:00,520 --> 02:30:05,920
assume you're an enemy. Since the Ortho baits keep foaming

2235
02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:10,360
in the comments about you, I now figured out you're

2236
02:30:10,399 --> 02:30:12,559
the guy that eats ubliberals. I will edit this post.

2237
02:30:13,319 --> 02:30:16,079
I am that guy. I am orthodox. However, I've moderated

2238
02:30:16,120 --> 02:30:20,159
thousands of debates and I'm neutral. I also tag William,

2239
02:30:21,319 --> 02:30:23,239
I tag William, so try to connect with each other.

2240
02:30:25,479 --> 02:30:27,959
So there you go. There they don't have a problem

2241
02:30:28,479 --> 02:30:33,280
with the Crucible. So this was what a few hours ago,

2242
02:30:33,719 --> 02:30:34,639
sixteen hours ago,