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you need to back down.
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see it's.
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got a diamond grip and a baby teeth. Coolest kid
in Lucy. But you know I'm not a matterry Yello list,
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just give me one more super jets. Hey, Giggy, just give.
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you win my work. I see you in the souper chet.
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in your hand. Please don't crush your girl. I understand
the IMO still, but I'm proud. I'm a geek, but
I'm proud and I want to feel your breast at
a convention.
Speaker 8: I want my picture.
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I want my friends to see it on Discord I'm
gonna upload it to myself bread and.
Speaker 11: They all go see it.
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But I think that it's gonna be the greatest moment
of my lap And I want you to be a
part of a girl.
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way to be alive.
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Speaker 11: Let me hear you say it.
Speaker 13: Let me hear you say fuck cloud swab, fuck cloud schwab.
Speaker 12: Let me hear you say too.
Speaker 8: And the winner is gething.
Speaker 14: They can bring the bull together agains with you, But
where it begins with you, not give I'm.
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get turn her your name. I want to see you.
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Speaker 4: See egos, get on your toes. You'll face what's it?
Just face? I want to see the baker on the floor.
I want to see you ask the poor. Make it clap,
make it clap, shake that the chest for.
Speaker 11: Uh yeah, what's up? Y'all? Welcome to another stream. We're
gonna have fun today, not a heated, heavy hot thing
that comes later tonight. Buffer real. So, in the midst
of all the drama, isn't it funny that the actual
offer to debate is ignored? As you may be aware,
I have continued to simply offer to actually just have debates.
Speaker 15: We know.
Speaker 11: Last night I called three times on Skype. I suggested
that everyone go over to the Crucible. Nobody wanted to
do that. Now this keep in mind, they said they
wanted to debate on the Crucible. I offered here Kai
and I offered the debate Shimwann and Albert on the
Crucible on their inconsistent Assyrian Church of the East position
and pre post Vatican to contradictions. The debate must be
formal with cross examinations on the Crucible. Now, keep in mind,
Shamoun himself said that he wants a debate set up
on the Crucible. Remember that all bricks said he's willing
to debate me on any topic. So he says, I
get to pick the topic. I'm trying to find that post.
Let's see, I'm not going to spend today's whole stream
on the drama I just want to point out the
more recent stuff today and then we'll go into we
will go into the other clips, debates, discussions that are
hot on the internet right now. So let me see
if somebody posted here, I think it's done here where
they said they would like to do it on the Crucible.
So we're agreeing to do it on the Crucible. Yeah,
here it is Tell the dog gay liar to debate
Albrecht in the near future instead of the last minute.
So the offer was given a right. So this is
to the crucible.
Speaker 4: See that.
Speaker 11: To the Crucible. Tell him to debate. Here's the offer,
Kai and I will debate on the cruise bowl. What's
their response, No, it's got to be on something else,
one to one, on some rando. Nobody even knows Catholic channel.
But last night you said it could be on the
Crucible at any time, and I get to pick the topic.
Albrit has always said he will I'll debate Ja on
any topic. But this is the same rigormarole that has
always happened with Albrick. I showed you twenty nineteen, twenty
twenty the text messages when I tried to set up
a debate with him at that time. He would say,
give me six months. I need six months. Six months later,
oh give me another three months. I need more time,
give me more time. I got a lot going on
in my life. So this is the rigamarole that they do,
and it shows that they never had the intention of
actually having a debate. They don't want to discuss the
actual subjects. They want to have all of this meltdown
drama so that people will be so disgusted with interacting
with them they can then say, oh, look they ran,
they ran. And so I've just continued to be pressing
for a debate on the Crucible. Why would I debate
on some rando Catholic channel when Shamoon himself said we
can debate on the Crucible. The Crucible is one of
the largest fastest growing debate channels on YouTube. Why would
I go to some rando no name Catholic channel to debate.
It doesn't make any sense and it's just them looking
for reasons and excuses. So when they get an actual
will offer again. As I called three times last night,
we went to the crew. I was willing to go
to the Cruci Bowl last night. They won't do it.
So they don't want to debate this and everybody knows.
Even Shamun says he doesn't have the ability to address
these topics. Yet he's gonna teach uh on the Trinity.
He's going to teach all this stuff, but he doesn't
know the basics. Well, I think he might find a
better career path over at the Discovery Channel together with
Jason Hawes and the Ghost hunters people.
Speaker 4: I just saw.
Speaker 16: I swear to God, it was like a white stink
coming right at you, behind you, behind me.
Speaker 4: Behind your vack.
Speaker 11: Watch how incredibly this bright light anomenally manifests out of
the spirit box. Oh, it manifested is demonic. Anytime you
DM somebody during a livestream, it's it's demonic. Now, last
couple of points I'm going to say on this because
I just want you guys to note that he's not debating. Yes,
people didn't know. He actually believes that when there's dust
and particles and reflections in his laptop camera, which is
just his nasty ass catinit cat hair filled apartment, he
thinks it's a proof of angelic entities. The orbs. The
orbs are the dust particles that fly past his nasty
ass apartment and that filthy ass kitchen with his with
his weaties boxes and his pop tarts in the back there.
So that's what we got going on. And today, unfortunately,
he just had a complete meltdown. Here he is praying
for the death of orthodox.
Speaker 17: Right while seeing the splinter of the eyes of others. Stealthy,
wicked orthobros. You guys, you are a cancer dude, may
God cut you off prominently in Jesus name.
Speaker 11: I don't know where he thinks he gets the authority
to cut people off of the grace of God or
pray for their death. This amongst the Orthodox. So you
can see this guy is just completely I kind of
think he's had a manic episode. Like that's a better
explanation I think for just how weird and insane all
of this is because I sent him one friendly message
asking to have a debate on on the topics that
we've actually been discussing debating for a few months now.
And then here's what he says about me.
Speaker 17: Are you ready for the prophecy? You guys ready, because
he's a narcissist.
Speaker 18: Okay, watch what's gonna happen.
Speaker 11: So he's in preless. He thinks he has prophetic powers.
Speaker 17: You're ready for the prophecy because I've seen this sadly,
I have to live with this for ten years and it's.
Speaker 18: Turned me to bitter man.
Speaker 11: So what meant he had to live with this? And
he's gonna say that the wife is going to divorce me,
So he means that he had to live with it.
The wife's divorcing him. Because he's a narcissist.
Speaker 17: Is that what he's saying, Jay, gay liar, here is
what's gonna happen. You're not gonna last in your marriage.
Your marriage is gonna end.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 17: Not wishing it on you, God knows, I don't wish
this on anyone. But because you're a sick demon, you're
full of satan, you're scum, narcissist.
Speaker 18: This Are you ready?
Speaker 11: So there you go. So multiple requests attempts to set
up a debate on the topics, and has he addressed
anything theological? I mean, I haven't watched his dreams. You
guys can tell me, but all I've heard is that
it's just spewing, just hatred and venom. No addressing of
the actual issues. So that's all he has. So there
you go. That's all I'm gonna say on that. I
don't know why it's so hard to set up a debate,
but there you go. Let's get into other topics and
let's all ponder our orbs. Let's clean our orbs. I
just took a bath before this stream. I got my
orbs nice and clean, so y'all can ponder that. While
we ponder the orbs. Some interesting stuff going on on
the Internet in terms of debates and discussions. And by
the way, if you want to support the stream, you
can do so via superchats. Superchats are done through stream
labs or natively through YouTube if you prefer, if that's
easier for you. Of course, everybody's talking about this intense debate.
Last night. I found a little bit of a clip.
This is comedian Dave Smith debating this British guy. I've
never heard of this guy. I'm I'm sure who he
is or what his thing is, if he's a historian
or I don't know what he is. But they get
into this debate over Israel and Hamas and so I've
not seen this yet, but everybody's talking about it and
saying I need to see it. I'm also interested in
Tucker's big interview with Lord Voldemore here, but I don't
know if I can get away with that. Maybe I
can play because it's a reaction to their interview. That
might I might be able to play it. We'll see.
So let's see what the debate is here on Israel
Hamas and I've been reading extensively into the whole history
of Israel and Jima debates coming up, We've got whatever podcast.
I think I'll be going on the Hodge Twins podcast.
I might go on Rouslan's podcast, and then I think
we have the debate with AP after that. AP and
I will be debating whether or not it can be
demonstrated that ISIS and al Qaeda are essentially aided, funded, armed,
and in a sense created. I'm not saying that Islam
was created by the CIA. That would be stupid. Nor
Is is a radical Islam itself created by the CIA,
but fostered, funded, and aided by Western intelligence operations.
Speaker 19: Experience, and I think that people have been indoctrinated by
very bad actors into this and as a result have
excused atrocities or will make excuses for them, make excuses.
Speaker 11: For the people who do them.
Speaker 19: I think in addition, it pays to the some of
the darkest things of the regional mind as well as
the international mind.
Speaker 11: So this is interesting. I mean, does this critique apply
to Middle Eastern countries as well? Do the regional does
the regional in group preference of mind? Does that apply
to Middle Eastern countries or is it only something that
we have to combat in Western quote democracies. I'm curious.
Speaker 19: The aims of Hamaz. The stated aims include the annihilation
of the Jewish people and October the seventh, they had
their best go doing that.
Speaker 11: Where did Hamaz He's called it Hamaz? Where did Hamas
come from? I have here with me Victor Ostrowski's two books,
wherein he discusses Israel creating homos. Why would Israel cremate
create homos? Well, if you read Ostrowski's book, and if
you've listened to former head of Masad talk about it,
it's very obvious why they wanted a radical, destabilizing element
instead of the PLO. In other words, the PLO, which
was a secular Palestine Liberation organization entity that had a
stabilizing force. I'm not agreeing with the PLO or saying
that they were quote good guys, but arafat in those
in that outfit was a stabilizing force in the Palestine region.
And Victor Strowsky admits in his books that that's not
the policy that Israel wanted. They wanted a destabilizing force
in Syria. That's why you've seen what's happened recently last
few years in Syria with the toppling of Asad. They
wanted a destabilizing force in Palestine through Hamas because that's
a better means of control and assuring that there would
not be any rival to Israel in the surrounding areas.
Ostrovsky also speaks of funding these radical elements of movements
in Jordan and Egypt as well Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, etc.
So this is pretty well known. I think that people
have called attention to this for a long time, but
a lot of people just sort of ignore this in
the West and pretend like it's not the case. And
I guarantee you this guy is not going to mention that.
Speaker 19: And the fact that in a decision between whether or
not you're on the side of the people who want
to dance and live in peace with their neighbors or
whether you're on the side of the people who want
to rampage through dance party bar in the early morning,
macheteing at people. I find it amazing that there are
so many people who don't know which side they're on,
but there are a lot of them. There are a
lot of reasons for that, but one of the foremost
reasons is the fact that the state of Israel has
been uniquely libeled, has been uniquely lied about. Its history
has been uniquely lied about. It has been uniquely put
under an international spotlight and then misrepresented in a way
which I cannot think of many other countries in the
world that have been treated that way, and there.
Speaker 11: Are now maybe that's the case, but I'd like to
hear what the arguments are, What specific events is he
referring to. I mean, the nation state of Israel's is
not that old in terms of what we think of
as the modern nation of Israel. So what exactly is
he referring to in this brief span of history here.
Maybe he's correct, I'd like to know what specific examples
though he just kind of brushes past this. In terms
of sort of propaganda, it sounds like emotive propaganda, But
what exactly are you talking about?
Speaker 19: Deep reasons for it and shallow reasons for it. The
deep reasons include some of the most ancient bigotries of
the human heart, and the shallow reasons are people who
don't know what the hell they're talking about.
Speaker 6: This is the Gremium garment double forty five liter by
half day.
Speaker 2: It's a transforming two and one travel duffel bag for long.
Speaker 16: Okay, I think that.
Speaker 11: There's By the way, I do like to see kind
of high level debates going on at this at this tier, right,
this is something that you know, props to your Rogan
for this, just because even though I may not agree
with Dave Smith or this guy, it is refreshing to
see this level of a serious type of discussion and debate.
Even if these guys are aren't exactly the I don't know.
I'm trying to figure out what what are they the best?
I don't know. I don't know who would be the
best representatives of this position. How is the audio bad?
I don't even know what you mean. My audio is bad?
Or the audio of the clip is bad because we
should be good? Is that any better? Blah blah blah.
Maybe he'll move the microphone close to me. If you're
saying the audio is mad or bad?
Speaker 4: Mad?
Speaker 11: If I'm looking at orbs and I'm thinking about orbs here,
so I'm getting distracted by the orbs. What if I
let's see if I can get some dust particles and
let's see if we can cause some miraculous appearances. I'll
look at that. Is that that's the demons flying around manifesting.
That's the bat demons manifesting. It's the bat demon's manifesting
to fight the orbs. On Sam's channel, it's dust orb
angelic dust orbs, right, the dust angels. But on my channel,
it's the bat demons. Because of the manifestations that I'm engaging,
I'm demonically manifesting, And people are saying, where did you
get the idea that he's influenced by charismaticism? The idea
that anyone who disagrees with you and all the events
that are happening in your life are caused by angels
and demons directly. That's like a charismatic one on one
and it's also kind of a it's almost like a manic,
insane psychosis to actually believe that. So who knows if
he really believes that, if he's just sort of putting
on a show for the camera, or I mean, I
actually think he's kind of having a breakdown.
Speaker 16: Look, I'm not going to speak for what every person
out there believes. I don't exactly agree with like the
characterization that there was no outpouring of like feeling after
October seventh, and certainly, like everybody I know, was just like,
oh my god, there's like a horrific atrocity and like
an unprecedented terrorist attack from Hamas, the worst terrorist attack
in Israeli history against Israelis, and it was horrible. I
think what a lot of I'm not arguing that there
are no people who are actually pro Hamas or there
are no people who are actually like hate Jews or
something like that. I do think that what happens is
that a lot of people get put in that category
who do not belong there. Much like we've seen this
over the last year and a half where a lot
of people, you know, you have John pod Horritz calling
Thomas Massey anti Semitic scum because he said, we're dead broke,
we can't afford to fund everybody else's war here. People
have been calling Tucker Carlson anti Semitic all over the place,
when these are two guys, Thomas Massey and Tucker Carlson,
who have never uttered the words the Jews in their life,
Like they're just not anti Semites at all. So there's
a lot of people I think who are when they're well, what.
Speaker 11: Does Victor Ostrowski say about this?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 11: And his books are really good By the way, he
has a very interesting comment on this very topic. We'll
see what his opinion is. Let's see what Victor Ostrowski says.
Speaker 20: Now, I know what they do because I used to
ask them to do it. I mean, when I was
in the Masada, we had a guy that gave us
problems in the US, and he was speaking out and
he was talking like Pete talked once and said Israel
is bombing Lebanon with buster bombs.
Speaker 4: We say, hey, who's that guy?
Speaker 15: You know, Mkakki. We used to call him, yeah, which
is Pete the cockroach because he makes a lot of
noise and you can't get rid of him. So what
you do is you in touch with the guy in
the in the station in New York or in the
station in Washington.
Speaker 20: DUCA held the guys at ben Agria to label him,
and of course the campaign starts before you know it.
Speaker 4: The guy's laboring and he's an anti senter. Because that's
what we say is.
Speaker 16: Critical of the Israeli government's response to this get lumped
in as pro Hama. I will certainly say that's certainly
not my possession. I think your description of them deaf cult.
By the way, the same term that Daryl Darrel Cooper
used to describe Hamas, I think is an accurate one.
Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly. So I didn't actually know Dave Smith's position
on Hamas or this issue, so I'm glad to see that.
I mean, not that I thought he was like pro
Hamas or whatever, but I would agree it's a it's
a false dialectic, like I was supposed to choose the
good guy between this, you know, territorial war in the
Middle East. I mean the reality of life and warfare
and geopolitics is that there's not going to be good
guy bad guy in these geopolitical squabbles and disputes. Both
sides are going to use the same methods, the same attacks,
the same deception, the same septerfuge. But there's no reason
why other.
Speaker 4: Than a.
Speaker 11: Well, let me put it this way, I would say
both sides have a long history of mistakes. The idea
that it needs to be ethnically cleansed is I think
part of the problem. But also I mean, just in
general Arab peoples, I mean, they accepted Islam centuries ago.
So that's another problem. And I don't know why, because
there used to be a lot of Arab Christians, especially
the further you go back. But for some reas, and
I don't know exactly why, maybe because of ethnic pride.
And if you are familiar with the Koran, there's that
section of the Koran where Mohammad says, the Christians have
their revelation for them, the Jews have their revelation for them.
This is God's revelation for the Muslims or meane with
the Arabs. So there's actually this sort of ethnic racial
component within the Koran itself, although it contradicts because it
later says, okay, now go out and conquer the world,
because this is for everybody, But at one stage in
the Qoran, it's actually an ethnic for the Arabs quote revelation,
and maybe that was something that appealed to an inferiority
complex on the part of Arabs and that people group,
and which led them to abandon a lot of their
Christian past and heritage. And so you get this false
dialectic between an idiotic Islamic religion and an equal bizarre
cult like Rabbinic religion. And sometimes they can work together
and sometimes they hate each other. So there's really not
a good guy bad guy in this conflict, and I'm
well aware of the history of but we were there first,
but then actually before them there was another group, and
then before them there's another group. Ideally, as many have
pointed out, I think in the twelve hundreds, what was
the thirteenth century, this was a Byzantine place. It was
a Byzantine kingdom. Ideally it should be a Christian kingdom
because only christ can reconcile jew and Arab. Right, there's
no other way for that reconciliation to occur. Without that,
there's going to be perpetual death, hatred, and warfare.
Speaker 16: And it was horrible.
Speaker 11: But I oh, and by the way, I forgot to mention,
isn't it something like one to two percent. I'm not
trying to minimize the Christians in Palestine, but I'm pretty
sure that it's a very small percentage are actually Orthodox Christians.
I'm not minimizing their struggle, but I don't think that
the plo or Hamas actually helps them. I think Hamas
is multiple times screwed over. The Orthodox Christians.
Speaker 16: Think that the you know, I think that your characterization
for all that they gave the Palestinians a state in
two thousand and five is just wrong. I just think
that is not at all an accurate way to describe
the disengagement, which we could get into more if you
want to, but first of all, I would just point
out that if the two state solution was achieved, I
assume you're arguing it was taken away after that, you're
not still arguing that the Palestinians have a state or
a You're saying they have had a state since two
thousand and five.
Speaker 19: They had they were given a stage in the Goaza
and when did it?
Speaker 16: When was it taken away?
Speaker 19: Well, they kind of screwed it up themselves on the
seventh Olktobe.
Speaker 16: So you're saying from two thousand and five all the
way till October seventh, there was a two state solution.
Speaker 11: It had been achieved.
Speaker 16: Well it was another state, yeah, okay, but that would
be two states that it would be.
Speaker 19: It was different from the PA.
Speaker 16: Okay, right, But I'm saying a Palestinian state, Yeah okay.
So what's interesting about that?
Speaker 11: The other guy's like, I was obvious sophistry there because
he knows exactly what Smith is saying, and he's like, no,
it's not another it's not a second state. It's a
different state. Which would be a second state.
Speaker 16: That is that this is not how like, this is
not how any of the leaders really describe it. I mean,
when Netanyaku himself is not claiming that they had already
achieved a two state solution, why are you talking about this?
What happened in two thousand and five in the disengagement
was that essentially Israel went from occupying the place to
surrounding the place, and they've had it under a brutal
blockade since two thousand and seven. And yes, you were right,
but we think, why do you?
Speaker 19: I don't agree the blockade was brutal by any means.
Speaker 16: Really you don't think the block now?
Speaker 11: I mean, who's not familiar with the Greater Israel project?
I mean it was actually written about by one of
the aids to I think the advisor to Aeriel Charon.
Isn't that right?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 11: Yeah, so the you known plan was written about in
h This is not what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Is this it?
Speaker 4: This might be it?
Speaker 13: H h.
Speaker 11: Mm hmm hm.
Speaker 17: Hm.
Speaker 11: I found I found the other day the original article
written by the advisor I believe to Ariel Sharon, I'm
not talking about Hurtzel's project. Oh, let me try oded
you non plan because that will probably bring it up. Yeah,
here we go. The plan is an article published in
the Hebrew journal Kivunam Directions a strategy for Israel in
the nineteen eighties. It was pinned by odd Ynon, former
advisor to Aerol Sharon told you and senior official with
Israeli Foreign Ministry and a journalist for the Jerusalem Post.
Can we so you can't find the actual Why can
I not just get the actual article? Argument of the
paper the rationalist humanists foundations of Western civilization were going
to collapse. Therefore, this needed to be preserved in Israel,
and that would then work if you had an expanded Israel.
The Blueprint for the Middle East included the idea that
the David Accords were mistaken. One of Israel's aims for
the nineteen eighties would be the dismemberment of Egypt, described
as a corpse in order to re establish a status
quo anti When Israel controlled the Snap Peninsula, Nan helped
to see the formation of a Christian Coptic state. Hope
to see within Egypt's borders. So you notice right away
that this is not it's not a black or white issue.
In the sense of like who's the good guy bad guy?
Because it's very similar to the Massade's attitude towards Iran,
because as we saw, Masie odd funded and aided the
Phalange right, which was the Catholic sort of militant guys
in Iran. So the Christian militia in Iran human, not
Iran Lebanon. The Christian militia in Lebanon was the Phalangeist
and the CIA and Masad wanted to arm them and
help them as a bulwark against Hezbollah. And you see
a similar sort of attitude here where in the Oddan plan,
he wants to see a Coptic Christian state in Egypt
because that would be more amenable than Muslim brotherhood or
you know, these sort of anti or seem not Muslim brotherhood.
It would be more amenable than like a Nasser type
of situation or a secular Egypt. And I think what
happens is that you get this similar policy with whether
it's the British imperial policy or the CIA or Israel.
If there's a situation where a secular Arab state could
be beneficial in some cases, they'll go with that. You
see that with the CIA in the nineteen forties and fifties,
helping to set up pan Arabism, Arab nationalism, and then
the decision later on to fund arm and ally with
radical Islam to take down those countries when they pose
a problem. So in the Cold War you had a
lot of those secular Arab nation states beginning to align
with the Soviets, and that caused a problem for Western
democratic oriented countries during the Cold War, and that led
to more and more alliances with radical Islamic groups to
destabilize those secular Soviet leaning Arab and not even just Arab,
but also like Iran, right, because it's debated to what
degree the Two Day Party was really influential and where
they really aligning with the Soviets in Iran. Perhaps they
really were, perhaps it was overblown. But in the Yunan
Plan we see that Jordan in the West Bank their plan.
There was Israeli invasion of Lebanon, the liquidation of Jordan
that was ruled by the Hashemite king kings. That's interesting
because I wonder if this didn't happen because the Hashemite
kings have for so long been on the CIA payroll.
If you didn't know that that's actually pretty well known.
It's report in Time magazine for many years. I'll show
you what I mean Time Magazine, CIA recruits and CIA payroll.
During his forty six year rule, the Hashemite monarch was
accused by his enemies, both Israeli an Era of being
a CIA stooge. The Agency became his paymaster in nineteen
fifty seven, and hearing that role from the British, so
he noticed that the CIA is beginning to adopt the
strategy of the British of just sort of buying off
all of these Era rulers. Hussain received one million dollars
a year all the way up until nineteen seventy seven
when Jimmy Carter ended those payments. So this is interesting
that the Unn plan originally included the liquidation of Jordan
as ruled by the Hashemites. The dissolution of Jordan Ynon
thought would bring an end to the problem with the
existence of the dense concentrations of Palestinians in the Palestinian
territories that Israel had conquered in the Six Day War
of nineteen sixty seven, allowing them to be spirited away
into the foreigner Kingdom's territory. I mean, I know it's
a you know, like if you're a Hamas or whatever
and you're like this committed to why would you not
want to just go live in you know, an Islamic country,
you know what I mean? Like, I've not been to
the West Bank. I mean, is it some beautiful place?
I don't even know. I mean I've heard it's actually
not that bad. I think I've heard they have like
shopping malls and stuff, not saying they weren't, you know,
brutally Boxton or whatever. But I mean, if you really
love Islam, why wouldn't you want to be under some
Islamic you know, theocracy or something. Let's see what the
plan for Lebanon was. The United Plans papers on Lebanon
focused on it fed into an old Lebanese conspiracy theory
against its territorial integrity back to nineteen forty three, in
which the country was to be cantonized along Ethno nationalist lines.
So this would be just sort of destabilizing it or
controlling it through sort of creating these rival controlled groups.
And if you've listened to the interviews that we don't
with gen who's in Lebanon. He kind of describes it
as this way. When we did our analysis of Middle
Eastern intelligence and we covered has a lot Lebanon and
all the factions within Lebanon. And if you read Victor
Strowski's chapter at the end of the book the first
book by Way of Deception, the whole chapter on Lebanon
actually speaks of it this way. So I would say
this seems to have been pretty effectively executed. This Israeli
planned to cantonize Lebanon to ethno nationalist gang's factions and organizations.
In the nineteen seventies, the idea took wing, and especially
after the Civil War broke out in seventy five, he
came to be associated with the figure of Kissinger. His
Middle Eastern diplomacy was thought to be greatly detrimental to
Lebanese interests, who was rumored to be planning to partition
Lebanon into two different states. Interesting. Interesting that fits into,
by the way, the timeline of what we read about
in the Ostrovsky book up to the nineteen eighty two
and eighty three bomb events in Lebanon by Hesboala Iraq
Yunan considered that Iraq with the oil wealth that it
had to be Israel's greatest threat. That's interesting because of
course Iraq became the central focal point right during desert
Storm and all that stuff. You non believe that the
around Iraq war would split Iraq and the dissolution would
lead to a strategic Israeli aim. So notice that you
see a pretty consistent pattern of splitting in micronation control
for what surrounds. And none of this is really new,
It's not that revolutionary. This is really just old school
imperial geopolitics. Right. The dominant power in any area or
region will operate kind of like an imperial structure, where
you'll have them managing the outer satellite nations through various
means including tribalism, factionalism, religious ethno divides, etc. All of
that's very key to how ancient history imperiums all the
way up into the British Empire and the American imperium today,
how they manage their empires. There's a great book on
this called Postmodern Imperium by Eric Wahlberg. And although I
don't necessarily agree with everything in his book, the central
thesis of the book is that and it is actually
correct let's see, So those were his theories about the
surrounding countries that surround Israel in the Oddy non plan.
Really doesn't seem that controversial to me. It seems pretty
I mean again, it's not an issue of good guy
bad guy. It's like if I was Israel, Uh, this
is like obviously the type of plan you would go with,
right or what you guys are talking about me defending Israel.
I'm literally saying that there's not a good guy bad guy. Okay,
what where have I lied? If anybody, if anybody would
like to come and have a debate, you're welcome to.
You'll notice like I've offered to debate all these different people.
Now again, let me give you an example. If Israel
arms the Falanges and if Israel wanted in that situation
to set up a cop at Christian State, who's the
good guy or the backguther. I think we have a
lot of low IQ people in the chat that have
no idea about geopolitics at all, So they don't know
what that have no idea what's going on. But we
literally did like a three hour talk. I just played
Victor Ostrovsky's clips, and you guys are so stupid as
to think that I'm just literally sitting or being a
Zionist as I analyze the Oditi non plan and just
say that if you were Israel, it makes sense. But
I think we have some really really deficient slow boys
in the chat who just can't even think past simple
hypotheticals and understanding things from other people's perspectives. So you
understand that I can analyze someone's position without actually accepting it.
Sold by Wetbird five dollars, Albriks says that you need
to go on his channel to debate him right now.
Wait a minute, I thought they wanted a neutral platform,
so you see that they just want clicks and attention.
They're the ones that want the clicks in the attention.
How am I zio cooking when I literally just played
you Victor of Strovsky's clip? I mean, are you mentally
ill when any of these people like to come to
bait like I'm Zio cooking when I literally played you
Victor of Strovsky's clips saying that their techniques are obvious.
I think you guys need to go ponder your ORBS
master's mooth two dollars or though Bros versus the orbo
Bros exactly. I think the orb Bros are melting out
right now. All along the Orbs were made of ice
and they're melting. Frank having meltdowns. Frank's melci five dollars.
One of the first things. One of the first Muslims
were Jewish Christians, like the eb it's not Orthodox. Many
of them were either Jewish Arabs or ebion Nite Arabs. Yeah,
this is interesting, it's like the the how can we
say this? The Arab mind seems to have a hard
time with things like the Trinity, and that's just my observation.
It seems to be I think that the Trinity requires
not just humility, but kind of the ability to do
like metaphysical distinctions right at certain levels, just intellectually. I'm
not saying that Arabs can't accept the Trinity on the
basis of vine revelation and not worry about the metaphysics,
but the defense of it does require a degree of
metaphysical understanding. You have to be able to understand the
one of the many, right, this kind of stuff, And
I just think that for very simple minded people groups,
for example, if you look at the presence of inter
breeding amongst some of these groups. That does lower IQ.
It does cause problems, cognitive problems. If you look at
the average IQ in a lot of those countries, it's
pretty low. So although faith is not entirely or wholly
an intellectual IQ enterprise, it is part of it. If
you're going to have people defending the positions, writing theological
treatises to defend your positions, you see, and there have
been many great Arab saints, right Saint John Damascus, right
Orthodox pH Nisis. If you want to know who rules
over you, look for who you're not allowed to criticize Voltaire,
Emperor Ashiev to seventy nine K and eighty. The intelligence
agencies are and the orbs are making your audio cutout.
Hopefully it's a good connection now. So I don't know
why the audio is cutting out.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 11: Cuban Guy Audio issues two dollars Henry fifty Sex get
in touch with buy him. Brian Burlettick. I am familiar
with Brian Burletick. He is has been on twenty per
century Wire many times. I'm pretty sure I've heard those interviews,
so yeah, I think I probably should reach out to him.
He will talk about the Western origins of hamas he
has agnostic agnostic, but you guys compliment each other. Yeah,
I'd be glad to chat with him. Hey, Jay, when
are you debating Hotep Jesus? I offered to debate, I didn't.
I forgot to see if he replied, So I'm not
sure if did he reply on that tweet. I'll have
to go and look forget where I have to go
dig it out and find it. I've been on his podcast,
and I think on the podcast we mentioned like the
possibility of debate. Pash rudneck one thousand beer and cigarette bottles.
That's what they That's the currency in Serbia. Just kidding,
We love our serbs, he says. Do not let any
of this get to you. In terms of the drama, Jay,
remember ashes to ashes, orbs to orbs, Henrik twenty sex
sec is some currency. I don't know what it is,
Probably something Nordic Origin thought that the souls that would
reincarnate would be perfect, right, so he thought they were orbs.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 11: So maybe Sam's got the soul of Origin flying around
his room because Origin thought that the sphere was the
most perfect form, and so if the soul was the
most perfect type of existence rather than the body, the
body is a bad lower existence, then the soul had
to be a perfect sphere. Andy monts two dollars. Sam
is projecting Cuban guy. Did Sam actually wish death upon
Orthodox because he's salty?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 11: What a time to be alive? Yes he did. I
played the clip earlier zalmoxis two memberships or members for
two months. The bottom line is that Roman Catholics and
Protestants do not have the trinity exactly. That's what the
initial disagreement was over. Was that he was making the
argument that here's your tier of the better and worst
of the Protestant Roman Catholic trinity defenders. And I was
a wholesale rejecting that either Protestants Roman Calocs have good
trinitarian models the Protestants and the Roman Catholics have a
neoplatonic diad. Everyone should read Saint Photius's Mystagogy exactly. Guys
want an easy cure to the whole thing that I
brought up, it was, it would be Saint Photius's Mystagogy.
And if you want to go deeper than that, you
read Saint Gergio Palamos's apedictic treatise out of Record a
ten dollars. Prophet Sam Schimoun psb upon him should join
the Ghost of Venture cast and then he can hunt
ghosts because they also love orbs, and they would get
good footage from all the prophetic orbs that circle Sam's head,
proving that he's a prophet exactly. H. Brosei five dollars
after what he said regarding the prophecy of you and
Jamie getting divorced. I feel like an idiot for hoping
that this could be diffused. That dude is so fake
and gray. I think he had a manic episode. Honestly, H.
Brosey ten dollars. Ironically, Shammoun doesn't understand that this is
the easy part, because if we actually choose to debate you,
the aftermath will be detrimental to his career. Sam picked
the wrong chad nerds to go after. I mean, yeah,
like what you heard him say. You notice, by the way,
all I've done is continue to ask for a debate
on the issues, and they will talk about and do
anything to not have that. Here's what he says, solthy
wicked Orthobos.
Speaker 17: You guys, you are a cancer dude. May God cut
you off prominently in Jesus name.
Speaker 11: I mean this is like, I don't think he realizes
this is like tens of thousands of young guys who've
converted to Orthodoxy, and some of the Ortho bros are
girls too, by the way, online and saying so he
just wants them all dead or cut off from grace
by the way, cut off from grace is being worse,
is worse than being dead. So just weird man, just crazy,
sort of meltdown. And then his prophecy is that Jamie's gonna.
Speaker 18: Leave me for the prophecy.
Speaker 11: So this is the guy who thinks he's a prophet
because there's dust particles that fly around his room in
his nasty house apartment with cat hair everywhere. The proof
that he's a prophet because these angelic dust orbs. Right,
So here here's the dust, the dust profit, right, the
cat nip dust profit.
Speaker 18: Because he's okay, watch what's gonna happen. You're ready for
the prophecy.
Speaker 11: What's funny about this is that if you listen to
what he says, he says he dealt with this and
it led to the end of his marriage. So he's
admitting that what led to the end of his marriage
is the male in the marriage being a narcissist talking
about himself, which is an odd accidental admission here this.
Speaker 17: Are you ready for the prophecy? You guys ready because
he's a narcissist. Okay, watch what's gonna happen. You're ready
for the prophecy because I've seen this. Sadly, I have
to live with this for ten years and it's.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 11: Does he mean his own narcissism in his marriage? Is
that what he's saying turned me to a better man?
So there you go. He's admitting that the failed marriage
that he had was because of his narcissism.
Speaker 17: Jay, gay liar, Here is what's going to happen. You're
not gonna last in your marriage. Your marriage is gonna end.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 17: Not wishing it on you, God knows. I don't wish
to sign anyone. But because you're a sick demon, you're
full of satan, you're a scum narcissist.
Speaker 11: There you go. So all because I asked him to
do a public discussion in a civil way on the
Trinity and the energies, there you go, and they won't
do it. Really, I mean, I haven't seen any updates,
but as far as I can tell, they're not going.
Speaker 4: To do it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think without you know what, A lot of
times we say, oh, all, that guy's crazy, right, we
just sort of handwave and say, oh man, that guy's nuts.
Right now, I'm saying I think literally he actually had
a manic episode. And it's crazy because if you watch
the stream from a couple days ago or whenever it
was when I just simply messaged him, he went from
in one he would say like, Jay, Buddy, I love you, bro. Uh,
let's let's let's talk this out. Let's be cool. You
felt a snake. I hate you your guts, you know
your your mother's a horror. By the way, I love you. Though,
it's like he would be flashing back and forth between
like two personalities almost like he's I mean, maybe he's
even I don't know, like by like extreme bipolar. Within
like a few minutes, it was wild, right, And that
to me is a pretty obvious indicator of some kind
of psychosis or manic episode. I just don't I seriously,
I still don't understand why. I mean, he deals with
people disagreeing with him all the time. It doesn't make
sense why because I messaged him during a live stream
there's nobody forcing my phone is sitting over here. I've
not looked at it this entire time. There's nothing about
the live stream that forces me to look at my phone.
But if you message him during his live stream, it's
in his mind, I'm not doing like he thinks. It's
the devil prompting you to do it, and in his mind,
you're possessed by the double. So imagine this guy's life,
like everything that's happening in his life is either directly
caused by angel or demons in his mind. And no
wonder he's having these sort of meltdowns because that's some
sort of weird charismatic delusion. That's not true. It's not Orthodox.
But he's in the world of Romacatholicism, which has adopted
Pentecostalism and charismaticism. So I guess he found his niche.
That's where he that's what he They're a perfect fit
for each other, him in Rome. Crunch five dollars Canadian.
I'm in a fan. I like your stuff. I'm new
to the faith. I look forward to learning. Found you
through a perfect guy life. Well thanks, Crunch, appreciate that
open mind. Daily Grind five dollars. Maybe he's tremendously sadden
because of his daughter. I don't know about anybody's I
don't go after people's personal family stuff. That's what they do.
You notice all I've done is asked to keep having
a debate, and he's going after my wife. I mean,
that's how bad this is. Steve mc eleven five dollars?
Could is long be preventive? Arabs were part of Galatians
three twenty eight. If Arabs were part of Galatians three
twenty eight, there's neither June, nor great Greek slave nor free.
I mean Arabs are part of Galatians three twenty eight.
So I don't understand the question you mean because they're
not literally mentioned. I mean, Paul's just saying that ethnicity
is not of prime importance in the Gospel. It doesn't
mean you lose your ethnicity. But there have been Arab
Christians since the very beginning. I mean Antioch converts in
the Book of Acts. Mister Pickle Pounder five dollars, what's up?
Do you have a discord private community. I'm not that
active in the discord. I gave it away some years ago.
There is Orthodox discord, though it's the largest one qu
Nig saig two pounds. I don't know if I can
read that one on here, but you mean Hamas Again.
I think Hamas is not good, guys, But I also
don't think that that makes the Zionis philosophy good. Big
Iron ten dollars respect for being unwavingly dignified about the
entire Shimona he he drama. Sometimes his orbs are just
his spit when he's for all the ps. Blue light
filters celt with ice train. I think these are blue
light filter glasses. But thank you for that. Sigismund twenty
sex life is good. Have some Swedish orb coin. Exactly,
he's donating orb coin. I added the coin part. Jason
Kassel twenty dollars. This is the new norm. If you
criticize Israel, you are part of Hamas. Yeah, exactly. If
you're critical of Hamas, then you're a Zionist. So people
are just falling into the dialectics, which is partly how
it's constructed. Apparently you cannot say that both have done
horrible things and that both are bad. That's it should
be obvious. But we have a lot of slow tier boys,
shall we say of Genia ten dollars, Thank you always,
Thank you, Gina. Appreciate that. Arena fifty dollars. Glory to God.
Thank you so much, Arena for being very generous. Appreciate
that Critical News seven Canadian. I appreciate all your work.
Speaker 15: Jay.
Speaker 11: I knew that Sam was bipolar the first time I
heard him speak. Well, I have noticed a lot of
comments that have popped up in the past couple of
days from commenters that claim to be psychologists and therapists,
and they are saying the same thing that you know,
if you've done work with people that have these bipolar
manic issues or whatever, it's obvious. I'm not. I don't
work with bipolar manic people, so I don't really know
the signs, but I guess the signs are there. Jmail
thirty dollars. Do Catholics have the concept of prelst not really,
that's a good question.
Speaker 20: Why.
Speaker 11: I wonder why they don't. I mean, I guess just
at a basic level, because the theology is wrong and
they don't have, you know, safeguards, and they don't.
Speaker 2: Have some of the.
Speaker 11: The you know, holy traditions of the Fathers that the
Orthodox Church maintained. Rome lost a lot of that. There
could be some deeper, broader, nuanced reason why Rome lost
the concept of prelest, but I'm not actually sure what
it would be other than just their theology is dom
is everything, demons and spirits. For Sam Shimun, so I
think in his perspective, anyone messaging him, anyone disagreeing with
him is immediately demonic, which is just bizarre, and I
think speaks to something off, which is why you would
interpret orbs as angels. It's just I remember when I
was eighteen, I read a book by a charismatic and oh,
I know what it was. There's this crazy Pentecostal book
and it was kind of famous at one time. Let's
see if we can still find it. And it's kind
of the attitude that you see demonstrated in this mindset
of everything being caused by angels or demons. It was
called Pigs in the Parlor. Have you guys ever heard
of this? And it's a famous charismatic book about quote deliverance.
It's a really kind of sad Pentecostal book and it's
about deliverance some ministries, right, I mean, it's it's really sad,
but it does accurately capture this charismatic mindset that all
the things that are happening in my day to day life,
whether it's you know what my wife says to me,
or you know, my car breaking down the way to
the grocery store, or you know somebody donating one hundred
dollars to me, right, like, everything that happens is literally
caused by angels or demons. It's it's very bizarre. It's
it's borderline supersti it is superstitious, right, it's weird. So
they've got a minecrub version of it. And it really
goes along with the emotiveness, the sensationalism, the emotionalism that
you find in Protestant charismatic circles. And that's exactly the
frame in the mindset that sham Moon has.
Speaker 8: Jesus has purchased a believer with his own blood and
has made him a steward over his own life.
Speaker 16: The devil has no legal.
Speaker 11: Right to him, however, it is up to him to
defend his rights. No demon can remain when the Christian
seriously desires him. So the whole book, I have no
idea if he's read this book, but the attitude is accurate.
The whole book is just like again, everything that's happening
is directly caused be angel or demons. And I mean
in the Orthodox Church, this would all be presented by
this would all be prevented by a spiritual father guarding
you against pre lust. Quantum Yakub became a member, did
you see DHS would be vetting people on social media
for certain comments that can be denial of entry. No,
I did not see that. I'm not aware of that,
but I'll have to look at that. I'm not surprised though.
Johnny g Ten, Canadian, I asked Shamun if he thought
that Osama did WTC seven. He responded by saying, Osama
graped my prostitute mother. I unsubscribed. I mean, it's almost
like the irony is that if anybody has a demonic manifestation,
is this guy's the that's the irony here, Like if
you hear stories about exorcisms, like the way that the
demons speak, all they do is like cuss and spew venom,
which would suggest that the irony this whole time that
he calls everybody else a demonic manifestation, he actually perhaps
has the demon Jasper Daddy Faulcra five dollars. My area
is somewhat of an Orthodox hotspot. I was wondering if
as an acquirer, I should go to a Serbian, Greek,
or Oca parish. I mean, out of those three, I
would recommend Serbian. Probably no churches are gonna be perfect,
but you might have a better chance of less liberalism
if you went Serbian. But I can't say perfectly how
it would work out. Lumbago ten dollars. There was a
recent community post from Shimun that the Patriarch of Alexandria
called Mohammed an apostle. I mean that could be the case,
but I don't understand what that would be, how that
would be a rebuke against That's a two quoque because
we don't have the same ecclesiology. So this is just
like feeding the low tier people who think that it's
a gotcha when calling the papacy an apostate actually undoes
the indefectibility of the Roman See and the promises of
attican One. If we thought that the Patriarch of Alexandria
was indefectible, infallible, and had a holy spirit charism perfect
that protected him from apostacia, error. That might be a
good argument. Yeah, there's no bishop in the Orthodox Church
that's infallible or in errant, and we would say that
all of them have had heretics at times who occupied
those sees. So this is like what Lofton used to do,
like five years ago. He would always say, you've got
liberal bishops too, dog, you've got acumenist bishop's.
Speaker 4: Too, dog.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but I don't put all of my ecclesiology around
one dude. The Orthodox Church is a decentralized church, so
the fact that one bishop a thousand miles away says
something heretical, it doesn't affect me because it's decentralized. There's
no one higher than the local bishop. But they think
of it in a papal mindset, so they think that
this too quoque way is a good argument, when it's
only a good argument if I believe that the patriarch
of Alexandria is a errant, infallible, or that he can't
fall into heresy. You understand that when Nestorius fall into heresy,
he was a patriarch of Constantinople. Nestorius was the second
highest bishop in the Church in the East, right next
to Rome. Honorious fell into heresy. Honorious was the first
bishop of all the bishops. He was the Bishop of Rome,
cool bear aquod of three dollars. I'm a Roman Catholic
on the verge of switching to Orthodoxy because of your content.
Where is a good place to start reading from the
Church Fathers and the different councils. Read the article at
my website, uh the Ecumenical Canons refute papal supremacy. Start there.
And for the Church Fathers, I would say, start with
Athanacious on the Incarnation, and then read the orient the
theological orations of Saint Gregor Nazianzus, and that'll be a
good introduction to the Eastern Fathers and their trinitarian theology.
And then read Basils on the Holy Spirit. You'll begin
to get the mindset of monarchical trinitarianism, which is not
consistently what's taught by Rome Kate. If guys, it was brutal,
I have told you think the Egyptians. Hold on. I
got a miss this rebby Lee ten Canadian. I am
a I'm mikal thick here, but I'm got a foot
in the Orthodox Church. Thank you for all this education,
sir or malicious. Their education is priceless. I cannot express
the thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. Pretty brutal mine.
Speaker 16: Yeah, they laid a loud stuff in, Okay, I mean
since some stuff has gotten in. Yes, that's true, since molden.
Some stuff mold Okay, some from I'll say this right,
because there's been different levels of blockade, even before two
thousand and seven. Going back, I know in nineteen ninety
six they had like a pretty strong blockade. That year.
According to the World Bank, it contracted forty percent of
the GDP of Gaza. So just for for reference, the
Great Depression we was a thirty percent contraction. This was
in nineteen ninety six. For one year, they gave them
something worse than our Great Depression. That was just one
year they from two thousand and seven on.
Speaker 11: There's now I have to admit this is something I
don't know about, not know at all about the economics
of this region. So this is interesting and I'm happy
to learn new things about the economics of this region.
I feel like I let's say I missed a super
chat over here. Let me go to that hush tones
five bucks. When someone is this far gone and they
won't talk about things in a civil way. The only
course of action is mackriy, watch out, Jay. The orb
of Yakub is coming.
Speaker 12: I know.
Speaker 11: Hush tones two dollars, Quantum Stream two thirty and four pm.
Hail the Quantum Orb. Yeah. Actually I did start the
stream on time, but the quantum orb made it project
into the simulation in your minds that it started late.
So we are literally hacking the matrix right now with
our quantum orbs CGD two dollars. Bummer to hear about
Sam chumuonn Brandon new member. What's up in rolf Stake
ten dollars? I hate the dumb thirties commercials? Could you
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just keep forgetting. I'll do it eventually. Let's see you
gotta make sure. I think I missed another one up here,
the bird that was created by Jesus became a member.
What's up man, Valerian, Alex Scott, Nectarius, Spartan, up North
all became members. Welcome everybody, enjoy the members content. I
hope you do. Jordaine, Actually your point about Nestorius is
mute because the patriarch Constantinople is a saint, because Voice
of Reason said so exactly, even though that totally undoes
all the anathemas of Ephesus and the theology of saints.
I mean, Sirril and the anathems are all wrong because
they're directed against th stories. Victor G ten two, six,
four or five dollars JA, I'm happy that you're getting
on all the bigger podcasts. I knew it was a
lot of patience and tenacity to keep doing it for
so long.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I think we're gonna have fun. I mean, we've had
some big podcasts in the past. The only bad news
is that I don't know. I think that with timcast
when we're going to do this Catholic debate, So we
couldn't get Michael Knowles, we couldn't get Charlie Kirk. There
was some other Protestant evangelical guy with like one hundred
thousand followers that were trying to get I guess he
didn't want to do it. Wes Huff said no. By
the way, I should have added west Huff to the
list of people who declined the debate. I don't know
that we're be able to do this Timcast debate, which
I was really hoping would be able to be done
because they wanted a Protestant, Catholic, an Orthodox, and now
there's no Protestant and so it would be like me
versus Tim Poole and Tim Gordon and I do it?
Just does I don't think that. Even Tim Gordon was like,
we got to get a big name like Knowles or
Charlie Kirk, right, So I just I don't know if
that one will happen. I mean, I'll keep pushing for it,
maybe if we could find a Protestant who wants to
go on tim Cast. But the other thing too is
like the more people that you add, the less of
a debate it is. It just becomes like everybody taking
turns yapping on an open panel, so it's not really
a debate, you know what I mean? Idbro five dollars
all break to has scheduled a live debate with you
for seven fifteen.
Speaker 4: So I have to go.
Speaker 11: Like they both said that they would do a debate
on the Crucible, they could do it. Albright said any
topic that I want, and they won't do it on
the Crucible. Even though Sam Chamun as I showed you
guys earlier said yesterday he would do a debate on
they would do a debate on the Crucible. Now they won't,
and so Albright wants me to come to his channel.
He ain't going to come to my channel. So it's
Crucible or none. That's my offer. My offer is which
they already said they would do, and Albrich said it
any topic I want, Okay, I want me and Kai
versus Shamun and Albrecht on the Crucible on two different topics,
a Syrian Church of the East and how their position
is contradictory, and that would be Kai's section, and then
me on pre and post Vatican two dogmatic contradictions that
would be my section. There you go, that's the offer.
And there's no reason why they couldn't do that, given
that they've already said they would do it on the Crucible,
and now they're back in a way and saying no,
it's going to be on this goober's channel. I think
they're just trying to milk all this for attention, because
we all knew they're not actually going to debate. Chase
Haggard was the first to say they will not ever
debate this, and Chase was right, maybe I jump up
ten dollars. Should we go full truth or that a
chopper crash was Semen's CEO. I didn't even know that.
I saw yesterday this image of the chopper, but I
didn't know that it had anybody prominent in it. I mean,
I think everybody when you see, you know, an airplane
or a copter or something go down and you have
high profile people, I mean, it's pretty natural and reasonable
to suspect that it might have been a hit or
a sabotage. But I didn't know that until just now.
Bobby c five dollars and the Palestinians need bitcoin, Israelis
need bigcoin. Everybody needs bitcoin, and that I do agree with.
Everybody will do better in the future with that. Over
the fiat currencies, the scam fiat currency wild rage, twenty
one bgns Now, that's a weird currency for you. We
see some weird currencies on here. What the heck is
a BGN? It's a bigin he says me, twenty one biggins.
Sorry if this is op topic. I'm Orthodox, And in
one video he said the Bible is not the word
of God. It's a book pointing to the Word of God.
How can we explain that it's primarily a liturgical book. Well,
because it's meant to be read in the churches. Right,
It's not primarily a book for you to argue on
the internet with, it's not primarily a book for you
to be in your prayer corner with. It might be
in those contexts, but its primary context and milieu is
within the divine liturgy being read out. And we know
that because that's really the setting for for example, David psalms.
David psalms are liturgical songs that were meant to be
sung in the temple synagogue liturgies, and so the Orthodox
approached to the text of Scripture are that they are couched,
they are situated, they are housed within the context of
being sung and chanted in the liturgical service. That's, by
the way, really the only way that they can be understood,
and that's how the Canon came about. The daily readings
in the churches. The lectionaries played a key role in
the formation of the Biblical Canon. Almost all Protestants don't
even know that, and so they missed the actual context.
Victor G. Ten two six four five dollars. What is
your take on Rex Jones becoming Orthodox. That's great. I
mean I think everybody was happy to see that. What
last year, I think he was received at Father Moses'
church last year. Yeah, I mean, I think you know this,
These discussions on this, this podcast, this channel played a
role in that as well as others. I'm sure you
know he he found a lot of camaraderie with with
Father Moses. So I hope that he's doing well. I
think I've only talked to him briefly on Twitter, Space
and maybe a couple of emails, so I've not met Rex.
I don't know him in person. What about Alex any Nudges, Well,
Alex has expressed interest in attending Orthodox Church. He had
said a few months ago he wanted to go. I
don't know if he ever did go check out Father
Moses' parent In fact, he messaged me about an Orthodox
church and I suggested Father moses Church. So I don't
know if he if he went or not. I first
heard about you on the ten foil Hat podcast. Yeah,
I think if we, you know, go back out to
l A in the next month for for whatever. Ruslan
Hodge twins, I would I would try to also go
back on Tripoli. Whenever we go to La I try
to do all the podcasts I can out there. Emperor Shiv,
two Canadians ask christ Developed to debate on Temple. It's
got to be a big name, like there's no I
don't know who that is, but like you know, it's
got to be somebody with like over one hundred thousand subscribers.
Yakub quantum, yakup five dollars. I just got The Bitcoin
Standard by saifidin Amus. Are you familiar with the book?
Can you recommend it? I actually have the book as well.
I ordered it in Tennessee. I don't have it here,
and I'm looking forward to reading it. I've not yet
read it, but I've never heard anything bad about it.
I think it's probably going to be an excellent read.
I intend to read it very soon and do a
podcast on it. I just haven't gotten to it yet,
but I've never heard any bad about it. I think
most people think it's probably the best bitcoin book. But
there's also our friend Julia's book, Thank God for Bitcoin,
uh so I doubt Siphodine's book will touch on the
sort of ethical biblical views of bitcoin, like Julia's book does,
but they could. I'm sure they compliment one another. But
thank you for reminding about that. By the way, Coach
CHRISTI five dollars. Thank you for the advice I submitted
to my church father. I no longer need debate online.
I will no longer debate online without authorization. Uh well,
I mean it just depends. Like if you're a Catechuman,
you know, the recommendation is that you don't debate for
one to three years when you until you can complete
that catechumen process, and then you're under authority because all
of us, we all need checks and balances. That's the point,
right Victor ten two six four two dollars You versus
Milo would be very legendary. I think maybe four years
ago there was a brief text DM back and forth,
and I asked Milo if he wanted to do a
debate and he wasn't interested, and he said he was
interested in my book though, So I think I mailed
him my book like four or five years ago, but
I never heard back, So maybe he didn't like the book.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 11: Jadiron Tucker twenty twenty five. Now that's what I'm thinking, right,
I feel like, yeah, maybe by twenty twenty five, twenty
twenty six, right, maybe there's a possibility of Tucker. I
think my numbers are just kind of you know what
I mean, Like, if I can get on some of
these bigger podcasts, we can get up into the two
hundred thousands. There's a lot better chance. So you guys
need to follow me on Twitter if we can get
you know, I need to. I'm right at one hundred
thousand on Twitter. So the quicker that we can get
the numbers up, because that's what the big podcasts look at.
Speaker 15: Right.
Speaker 11: I talked to one of Tucker's people. I talk to
PBDS people and and I'm I've not talked to like
Rogan people, but I'm assuming that it's the same sort
of attitude for Rogan as well. Like the schedulers look
at your channel and your stats and your profiles, and
if you're not up in the you know, two hundred
thousands range, at least in the hundred thousand range, right,
which okay, yeah for the channel, but like we need
to get the Twitter up, and we need to get
the channel up into the two hundreds, and then I
have a lot better chance of the big the big boys, right,
But I would say for sure, like you know, give
us another three or four years and will definitely Lord
Willing be up in the twos the three hundreds for sure,
and maybe then we got a we got a much
more likely shot.
Speaker 14: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I think in the next year or two we got
a decent shot. But we'll see. Uh Yasper Daddy Falcore
five dollars. Maybe Ed Maybray would be a good candidate
for the Tim Poole debate. He's doing a Bible Say
series on the FLM death Squad. Oh that guy, Yeah,
that could be an interesting person. The scheduler woman it
has She's messes me multiple times about different Protestants she's
she's trying to find and they're just there. I guess
she's having a hard time finding a Protestant that will
come do it because we've had what four already four
cancel everybody like the stream Clarity conversation. I mean, you
guys are being so generous preciate. It like we haven't
even gotten to we haven't gotten to the.
Speaker 13: To this.
Speaker 11: I feel like I missed a bitcoin.
Speaker 4: Thing.
Speaker 11: Let's see Bobby C five dollars. I'm currently reading the
Bitcoin Standard. I just started chapter eight. It is very good.
I read it from the beginning. Don't skip to the
bitcoin part. Okay, there we go. That's good advice, by
the way, I think made by jim Bob. Shout out
to Jimbob. I think Jimbob is going to be in
Santa Barbara at the same time and we're both This
is gonna be awesome. We're both going to have the
debate with not so Erudite and the other ladies whoever
happens to be there that day. I guess. So that's
gonna be fun. And I hope you guys check out
the recent episode of the sam Hai podcast. Did you
guys check it out? Excise me a sam Hi Hi.
It's also pertinent to today's topic. So how doing up
here to the act and you'll see pen to the
top is the newest episode Moist thinkers. I think it's
episode four, and good news is I think we've almost
got episode five wrapped up to so episode five will
be coming soon getting decent viewage. It'd be good to
get the other one. The last one had about five
hundred thousand over here on Twitter. It'd be good to
get these up into the millions. But I mean these
are you know, people are saying that these are really
really well crafted, and I have to agree. I mean,
obviously it's not just me and Sam. It's like a
whole team of people, so you know, all the MD guys,
the team, and I'm not the only writer, by the way,
there's probably there's me Sam at least. I think there
was about four of us, maybe five on some episodes.
I think there was more writers on the first episode.
That one was really really intense. We might have had
six or seven writers on the first one. So it's
it's interesting, it's it's a collaborative effort. It's a lot
of fun. It would be easier if we all lived
in the same region, you know, the same city. That
would be a lot better. I could be more directly involved, but.
Speaker 6: It is what it is.
Speaker 11: Christ developed as one hundred and twenty nine k. He
is very anti calogic and Orthodox. Yeah, I can mention
him to the timcast scheduler. I'll take a look at that.
Victor G ten two six four five dollars. Did you,
if you look back everything, did you think you would
have such an impact in spreading Orthodoxy? No, I had
no idea about that not at all. I mean that's
and I don't even really want to be in that position.
What was your vision for your future? Well, you know,
all of this Internet stuff kind of took on a
life of its own. I had no idea it was
going to be like this. It was all just kind
of an experiment in the sense of when I was
my last job after grad school was working at AT
and T. I was selling cell phones because it was
just the first job that I could find when I
was no longer interested in grad school. I just had
to take whatever job I could get, and I actually
had fun. I had fun with that job. It was
actually fun to you know, sales is not the worst
of you know, normy jobs for me. So I did
that for maybe a year, and then I found another
job that was sales, but it was a different company,
and it was a funny thing because it was like
the job was not what I thought it was going
to be. They hired me as a person to come
in and edit and write their product descriptions, right, and
I was like, Ah, this is gonna be fun, you know,
I get to It's not gonna be the most exciting writing,
but I'm gonna get paid to write stuff, and that's
better than I don't know, shoveling poop at the poop factory.
I don't know, right, And it was not that at all.
So as soon as I get hired, they put me
in the call area and it's like the call area. Yeah,
you're making calls to all the people who place an
online order and want or that want to call in.
And it was a what was the name of that company, Auto,
I don't know if it still exists anymore, Auto Auto
trim design. And it doesn't sound like what it was.
This sounds like some kind of like Cholo pimp your
ride type of place. It wasn't that at all. It
was like a big factory building that sold all of
this like pimp your car stuff. So it was not
like a small I don't know, is there even a
word for, you know, cholo pimp your car type places.
I don't, I don't know what those are called. But
it wasn't like that. It was a big warehouse with
all of this pimp your car material and they had
this office, this upstair office where you sit on the
phone talking to all of these people, has a lot
of rednecks and for those that don't know, in the South,
when you are selling pimp your car gear, you got
black dudes and redneck dudes. Those are the people that
pimp their cars and there's a lot of overlap with
those two right. Anyway, It's just it was a really goofy, stupid,
annoying job that was fun for like six months. Anyway,
those are my last few jobs. And then I went
into thinking, all right, I could either keep working these
dumb jobs and you know the cell phone place, they
offered me that I had to be a manager, so
it would have made a lot more money, but I
would have had to work sixty hours a week. I
was like, I don't want to be a manager of
a cell phone store. That sounds like a nightmare. I
wanted to stay on as a temporary person, you know,
part time worker, because I was able to work on
my blog and do podcasts. And they were like, well,
you either have to take the manager position because you're
over qualified, or we had to let you go. So
I was like, dang it, all right, fine, I'm out here.
And then I thought, why don't I just try to
make it with a blog. And this is back in
twenty eleven, so maybe twelve eleven twelve, blogging was, you know,
still more popular back then. Audio podcasting was getting really
really popping off. YouTube was just kind of beginning to
be dominant, right, but most people were still blogging and podcasting.
So I was like, yeah, I'll try that out. And
it took about two years. By twenty fourteen fifteen, I
was doing it full time, and I already had a
whole lot of time of writing, right, So I'd basically
written thousands of pages of essays on film, which became
the trilogy, and then I've written thousands of pages on
a couple thousand pages on other stuff, which was the
geopolitics and stuff, maybe not maybe maybe about a thousand pages,
so about a thousand pages of film reviews and about
a thousand pages of like geopolitical stuff, and that got
whittled down into the Red Book eventually. But I don't
have the read book back back then. So the next
thing that happened was somebody said, do you have a book?
So Chris Milligan reached out to me the publisher, because
I did an interview with Sean Stone Oliver Stone Son,
so he watched Oliver Stone's Sons podcast and when they
reached out about a book, I was like, oh, I
recognize Trying today. Like I bought a bunch of their
books over the years. I have literally probably have twenty
Trying Day books on my shelf. And I was like, yeah, sure,
I have a manuscript. I didn't technically have a manuscript.
I had a bunch of essays and I was like, well,
that'll work for chapters in a book. So that led
to the book, and then the book went out, and
then right after the book, Jay Whedner reached out to
sell us to a TV show. We did one season
of full production TV show. If you guys haven't watched it,
by the way, I do recommend it's still a really
good show. Like people still love Going Back and I
still get comments on it. And you work for Goy.
I didn't actually work for Guya. The way that TV
shows work and this is like still twenty what eighteen
when this happened. The way TV shows work is you
you film a thing with a production company and then
they sell it to the network or the distributor. Right,
so our show was paid for and produced by Jay
Wiedner's company. Let's see where is this series? And then
they then Guya bought it, right, so that's people don't
know that how TV stuff works. But they bought one
season and then Jamie and I wrote an entire ses.
So over at Guaya we have Hollywood Decoded. Came out
in twenty I guess this is twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen
or nineteen. I'm not sure. Twenty eighteen, I think, and.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 11: It was a lot of fun. This was a great time.
I spent three or four weeks in Colorado filming because
they're not located in California, they're actually located in Colorado.
I'll show you guys a I used to be able
to watch some of a free episode. Let's say, here
we go, so our Lord of the Rings episode here
is free. You can watch this one without a subscription.
The rest of the show is upon the paywall. But
as you can see, it isn't a full production like
we had. An Emmy winning producer produced the show. Where
is it at? So I'll give you guys just a
little brief peek into the TV show. By the way,
it was a lot more carb blued back in. That
was before Carnivore died, right, So I didn't know about
Carnivore died at the time. Now, I was like, man,
I cannot lose this weight. I was like, I'm eating
so many vegetables and I'm being so healthy. Why can't
I lose weight? Is there a deeper, hidden, more esoteric
meaning to the Hollywood films that we all have to watch?
Speaker 4: Car Blue, Jay Dyre And.
Speaker 11: I'm Jay Whitener and you're watching Hollywood Decoded today? So
the free episode is one of our Lord of the
Rings decodings.
Speaker 13: Are there?
Speaker 11: I was orbit bloated, correct, I was manifesting my orbit
bloat in twenty eight this is twenty eighteen. So say,
I'm trying to give you guys the link here if
you want to go watch this episode. So it's fun because,
like Weedner was, he's like the older and I don't
mean this in a derogatory way, but like the older
sort of boomer mindset about film, and his views are
kind of very speculative, not in a bad way. They're fun,
and then I'm always kind of trying to bring it
down to like more provable stuff. I guess you could
say an amazing mythology that Tolkien wrote because he had
gone to World War One with all of the buddies in.
Speaker 18: His little town.
Speaker 11: I should rewatch. I haven't watched these in many years.
It be fun to watch this exactly, And they really
plan this out in a kind of secret way. And
the reason that he has to deceive everyone is because he.
Speaker 4: Can't let that get out.
Speaker 11: It's such a dangerous gambit that he's that he's sending
the ring. The thing about this show was that, although
it was a lot of fun, I wanted to be
a lot more jovial, a lot more silly. I wanted
to do more impressions. I wanted to have fun with
When you have like a whole team, like a producer
and a director and all that stuff, like, it's a
lot more controlled, like you don't get to you don't
get to do as much as the way that I
can do it now on a livestream, right, Does that
make sense? So I wanted it to be a lot
more like, you know, silly elements in there, but the
show is way more serious. There's not really much joking around.
So that was one thing that wasn't really what I
wanted to do. But I mean it's still great. Like
the whole thing was a lot of fun, and I
do recommend watching it if you've never seen it. Is
this is there a hidden, more deeper meaning to the
Hollywood films that we all love to watch. This is
the way. The reason I said more deeper is because
that day I was like super tired. You would film
from eight in the morning until five at night every
day for a week, right, eight in the morning until
five at night. Right, it was it was rough man
because the way it works there is like they have
a whole bunch of TV shows and they scheduled the studio.
There's like three or four studio and so the studios
are all scheduled, right, so you have like a limited
time when you can film your series. So we had
initially two weeks and they scrapped three episodes because they
were quote too dark. I've never seen. I've never seen
those episodes. Would be great to go see them Sham
Shamun's Dark orb. Vatican Catholic made another video about you.
They claimed that they refewed Orthodoxy. Are you ready to debunk?
We've already replied to them many many times. Have a
whole three hour video called set of Accntism for his Orthodoxy.
Daniel Lemon five dollars debate Jacob Hansen the Mormon. Look,
so we had Catholics fussing at me today because they
were trying to fuss at me about my debate standards.
I set the debate standards for me. Ad is cutting
in and out? Maybe it's this chord just I don't
know why the audio would be cutting in and out.
It says the connection is good. Huh test task? Can
you guys hear me? Let me check the notifications and
see if it's okay. So the frames are dropping?
Speaker 4: How is it?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 11: That's weird because it says good connection. It's a YouTube
issue refreshed the stream. Yeah, so like, so my audio
input is perfect. The it does say there's a couple
of drop frames, but that shouldn't affect the audio.
Speaker 20: Uh.
Speaker 11: And YouTube is telling me the connection is perfect. So okay?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 11: Anyway, Uh, we got way off in the star Hollywood
Hollywood code. Excuse me, let's get back to this.
Speaker 16: It's been a blockade of that country. You don't think
it's what the country before?
Speaker 19: Why do you think is a blockade of any kind?
Speaker 16: Why is there a blockade?
Speaker 11: Oh wait, I forgot this question. I'm sorry. Daniel Lemon
five dollars debate Jacob Hanson. You have not debated him.
You debated Robert Gerr. He's much bigger. He's interviewed by
Alex O'Connor. He made a video about about the video
about the Trinity with God Logic. God Logic did not
do well in that discussion. Okay, we'll see, we'll see.
H Brossie five dollars. Customer asks for a new cell
phone case and Jay starts pre supping them. Okay, what's
your upsoum and justification for that? Choose AT and T
over Hoverizon. Try and remember what it was like. It
was really slow because we were at a small outlet
in a small town, so we would only have like
high you know, volume traffic like the morning in the afternoon,
so you'd have like three hours of downtime, which I think,
if I recall, I read quite a bit. I read
all of Frank Herbert's done at the AT and T store.
I remember that. I remember reading that intently. I don't
remember precepting anybody. I was not super interested in TAG
at the time. I mean, I had new Tag since
the twenties, but I was in like a chasing the
ladies phase in twenty thirteen fourteen, So I remember I
remember dating like three or four customers from that time period.
But that's about it in terms of like what was
going on. I remember spending a lot of time in
Nashville at that time, because you know, small towns were
dead and boring. But shy ten dollars. I made you
a all brick thumbnail for your future videos. That's funny.
I'll check it out. I appreciate that, Victor G ten
two dollars. What do your parents think of what you do? Well,
my dad is in bad health, but I think he's
very proud of what ended up kind of being my
odd career path. So I think he you know, he
always knew that I enjoyed media type stuff, so I
think he always wanted me to do some type of
media work and he was always encourage me to do
that kind of stuff. So I think he's proud. But
you know, pray for him because he's he does have
a bad health condition. And my mom is she's very proud.
We've grown over the years to be more and more
like minded. You know, back in my twenties, you know,
we would have a lot of debates and have a
lot of arguments. I think a lot of people in
their teenage years and their twenties debate and argue with
their parents. I wish I had done that less now
than I'm older. But no, I think my parents are
are proud. I think they always knew I would be
doing something odd because I'm kind of an oddball. But yeah,
I think nowadays most people who maybe thought I was
a weird, oh black sheep eccentric type person, even friends
and family in my twenties, you know, I think they're
kind of surprised. But also it kind of makes sense, right.
The internet is perfect for the kind of stuff that
we do. Bmax nineteen six six ten dollars. Thank you
so much, man, I appreciate that generaloss. You guys are
been so generous, Like all of the super chats are
coming in. Vlad is mad ten dollars. Sorry this off topic.
I grew up Protestant. I was baptized as a Russian Baptist. Interesting,
I want to convert to Orthodoxy after watching you, But
I've been reading the Church Fathers too. Can you point
me to a book on icon veneration and praying to
the saints. Yeah, Michael Garton just put out a book
on icon veneration. I've got it on I've not ordered
it yet, but I'm looking forward to getting it. And
his book deals directly with the early period, right early icons,
Christian image veneration before three twenty five ADB, and Michael Garton.
So look for Michael's book. I've always liked Michael. I
think we've always we haven't interacted in many, many years,
but I hope he's doing well, and I think people
should get his book. I'm sure it's going to be
really good. It's on my two get list. I haven't
bought it yet, so I would look at that for
early evidence. And then last, Ki Auspensky have a two
volume book that's kind of a classic that's a little
more advanced than Michael Garton's book. I don't mean advanced
like his book's low tier. I'm saying that his book
is directly addressing that time period, and the laws Kyospensky
book is addressing the whole history of iconography in two volumes,
and in part two it gets really technical, it gets
really heavy into energies. So I'm not dissing or saying
that Michael Garton's book is not sophisticated. That's not what
I meant straight white malt. Two dollars. Audio issues, Yeah,
I think we saw audio issues. Bobby c two dollars.
Damn Jay. When you're on the show, you were chunk tacular.
Speaker 18: I was.
Speaker 11: I didn't know about cardboard diet. I thought that the
way to get healthy was to just eat organic everything, right,
So at that phase, I was eating organic pasta, organic vegetables, like,
I wasn't eating any what I thought was junk food, right,
And I was like, I still can't, But I didn't
realize that it was carbs that was the source of
a lot of the bloat. And thank god for Tristan
and Mikaela Peterson and Jordan Peterson because I listened to
their podcasts and their talks and they changed my life
and they saved my guts. Bobby c Oh, Yeah, come here,
I was chunk tacular.
Speaker 4: Also.
Speaker 11: That was a writer around the time. I'm trying to
remember if I drank. I don't think I drank beer
in twenty eighteen. I think I was already quitting drinking
by that time. Yeah. The last though, that's right, the
last time I drank a beer like that, I had noticed.
It was when my second book came out, That's t
Hollywood two came out and we had the book signing
at a local pub and brewery that a friend of
mine owns. That was twenty eighteen, and that was my
last drink. So I'm not at alcohol since twenty eighteen,
except for one glass when we had when we were
with the Italian princesses, and I mean literally the Italian
princesses I had we were at their winery out in Tuscany,
I think when we were in Italy, and even though
I don't drink, I did not want to be rude
or improper in the presence of literal Italian princesses, the
Jian Cardini Strozzi family. We're actually the thousand year rivals
to the medicis could you not.
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 11: Like, you know, you got two twin princesses offering you
a glass of wine. You're not gonna say no. So
the one glass of wine I've had in the last
twenty eighteen, the now with seven years eight years, seven years, yeah,
seven years, was with two princesses, Inverted big Toe and
their mom who's also Italian world too, Inverted big Toe
two dollars. No, we already read that cutting out. Kay
hpan to ten dollars, Jay, shout out on Canary Cry
Radio where I listened to you talk about as so
terk Hollywood. Oh that's a that's a vintage one. I
remember that with Gons. Yeah, shout out to Gones. He's
always been a cool dude and always been a bitcoin guy,
going all the way back to Canary Cry. Probably. I
wonder if that was Esotery Hollywood one or two, but
that would be a long time ago. Yeah, Cold Quest
five dollars. I'd love to see you chat with Brian
Callen maybe on Fighter and the Kid. Uh yeah, I'd
love to go in there.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 11: I did do a discussion with Brian Callen, so we
did uh triply when he had the old podcast with Tripoli.
We did a show and what's it called Conspiracy? What
was that show called Conspiracy Social Club? This is a
clip from it right here. Conspiracies. Yeah, if you go
to Rock Fin it's still here. We had a good time.
It was It was a good conversation. He gave me
his phone number after this and was like, hey, next
time you come out to l A, you know, come
on whatever this that, and I was like, yeah, let's
do it, and there was going to be a podcast
with me and I think Malpass. So Brian Callen was
actually trying to get me and Malpass on a podcast,
and then Malpass I think it was Malpass, don't quote me,
it was it was some professor atheist professor. But then
they couldn't do it. I don't think he was chickening out.
I just think he wasn't able to because of the
time zones. But that never came about. But yeah, I'd
love to go on any I'll go on any of
the podcasts when we go out to LA so you
can go check that out if you didn't hear it. W. S.
Gilbert five dollars. Do you know of any good books
and resources about the essence Inervi Sinction? Probably the best
to start with would be Dialogue between Orthodox and Obarleymite,
because it's just the classic debate on the subject between
PAULA Moss and a Barleyminte. Dialogue between Orthodox and Obarlamite.
You can get it from s and UI Press right here.
It's funny. It used to be twenty dollars, now it's
thirty one. Interesting and you know there's other texts as well.
You can read Doctor David Bradshaw's books are necessary reading
for this, especially Divine Energies in Divine Action by Doctor
David Bradshaw. If you guys want to see me on
Fighter and the Kid, you can just you know, message
in the comments, tell them to have me on or whatever.
I don't know if I still have Brian Kellen's cell
phone number, I'm gonna have it. Let me see that
was a few years ago. He might not even have
the same cell phone number, so let's see. Jamie Kennedy
did just text me and say that he wants to
do a chat, So let me text Brian Callen. Let's
see if he's willing to do it. Coming to California
next month. Would love to do a podcast chat. If
you guys need a guest. It's a good way to
put it. And he probably don't remember who I am,
so let me put this is Jay Dyer. Oh yeah,
Jamie Kennedy, Yes, let's do a podcast. Awesome, so look
for We're gonna have a wild month whatever podcast, Jamie Kennedy,
Hodge Twins Ruslan. I feel like I'm missing something, Tinpole
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where we at cold quest? Now we did that because
that break companion five dollars. You need a grift like
Andrew to get bucks rolling in perfect one. Muting yourself
and people will send super chest to tell your muted it. Well,
that's what I said last night. I said, I'm gonna
mute myself more and then because everybody sends super Chest
telling me to unmute. It was just a silly joke.
Jordan and five dollars. Could you react to the Nectal
video with the Nonchalcedonian I guess since everybody keeps asking
about it, I just I'm not super hyped about it
because I wish it was real, you know, like orthodox
people that we're doing it. But hey, Jamie, oh that's right,
she's not here shout out to you. We got a
I think we had up to about two thousand to day,
maybe we hit pretty close to that. Is the internet
cutting out right now, So it's it seems like there's
a little bit of choppy internet waves. H Brossey ten dollars.
The real Diarites know that as soon as you bring
up Hollywood Decoded, it's gonna be a twenty minute rundown
at viewing. You left out the part wearing that guy's
suit this time, though, I don't have to go through
that whole story if you'll are sick of it. But yeah,
one day I came with the wrong color clothes and
I had to wear what's that lunatic's name, the guy
with the giant head, new age dude with the big head. Oh,
David Wilcox. I had to wear David Wilcox suit. So
my cock has been in the same place as David
Wilcox Cox. Yes two. As a joke, I did have
to wear his pants in his suit though it's kind
of like a silver Spacey suit. That was kind of cool,
felt like I was from the Pliades. Cool baracude. Three
dollars take you her the resources. If I wouldcome EO
would be okay to go to the Roman calog Mass. No,
you cannot. My grandmother goes to mass. I go with her.
You might get a permission from your spiritual father to attend,
but you can't participate in the liturgy. She's a Mexican granny.
I'm trying to push her towards Orthodoxy. It would be
like trying to give a mule I understand, and sometimes
your spiritual father in those kinds of situations will give
you the blessing to to do that kind of stuff.
You just have to not like act, you can't take communion,
and you have to not actively like you know, profess
the creed with the Roman galax. But there can be
situations where they allow you to attend. Jordaane two dollars.
Brian Callen lives in Austin. Now, Oh, okay, didn't know that,
so I guess that won't work. Well, actually, we will
probably drive out there. If we drive, it might be
on the way. It depends on It depends on what
way we go. I don't know. Jordaan two dollars, No bro,
his initial convo, his cope about it. Oh, you're saying
I should go back on Brian Callen's podcast to discuss
the that we were debating conspiracies on the old podcast. Yeah,
I'm open to talk about whatever. Eddie Bravo is my
jiu jitsu coach, coach. He's pretty deep into conspiracies. I've
been on Eddie Bravo's podcast twice. He's been recently getting
into Christianityack can ask him. Uh, yeah, I would go
on Eddie's podcast again. I've been on there. If you
go to rock Finn, I think I'm one of the
top because he had me on like his like third
or fourth podcast, So I think I'm one of the
top ones. If you come over to rock Finn, which
is a great free speech based platform that's still there,
look at me on number three. So Eddie Bravo's number
three podcast of all time is Me and Tripoli number one,
Santos Bonacci number two, Lord Voldemort number three, Me and
Triple Lee. Then Alex Stein, Bryce Mitchell, James Watson, Isaac
Weisshopp so, and then I was on again. And the
funny part about the second time I was on was me, Uh,
I forgot about Eddie Bravo. He's in Is he in La?
I think he's in La. Oh, that's right. Last time
we were in California for our event, we went to
see Eddie Bravo's band play. That was pretty wild. I
have Eddie Bravo's number. I could text him about that. Yeah,
thank you for mentioning that I forgot about Eddie. I
don't know if he does impoc in person podcast would
be fun. If he does. I played pay Piggy for him,
and he it's like, I don't I don't think he
got what I was after with pay Piggy, but he
thought it was funny. He was like, uh ooh, pay Piggy.
That are against the system, against the establishment. But almost
all of the really important players in that Laurel Canyon
scene come from not just high level military families or
government connected families, but like intelligence families. That's the weird part,
just like it's a lot of people who you know,
have these high level intelligences families. That's where.
Speaker 21: Ways I mean, uh, you know, you got the the
mainstream story, which is he's Satanic and he ordered uh
you know, his cult to kill Sharon Tate and all
those people up at that uh Colo drive house, and
then he ordered them to kill the the Lobbiancas and
all that and that whole mainstream narrative.
Speaker 16: But then you hear you know, you.
Speaker 21: Know he was basically he was in jail's whole life.
He was accustomed to be in jail. He would rather
be in jail. He's been in and out of prison
his whole life, and they used him like one conspiracy
theory is the CIA or whoever taught him and Kultra
mind control techniques and you got him out of jail,
funded him and basically Charles Manson wasn't an experiment.
Speaker 11: I forgot. We talked about that Tom O'Neill stuff. Yeah,
that was a fun podcast that was three years ago.
That was wild. And then I went back on there
with I don't think Tripley was on the next time
it was just me. May have been Tripley, I can't remember.
And we talked about Paypiggy. It was funny. But yeah.
You can follow me also over here at rock fin
as well as Sam Tripley, Eddie Bravo, Whitney Webb, Richard Grove,
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those excellent outlets. You can follow me and subscribe there.
I read the first few chapters of Chaos. I didn't
finish it, not because I didn't want to or didn't
like it. I just got busy. But I would like
to get back to Chaos. That would be a good
one to cover well.
Speaker 16: I mean, the the argument from Israel would why do
you think in just the last seven days eight thousand.
Speaker 11: We're gonna get through this clip here with Dave Smith
on Rogan.
Speaker 16: Eventually I would say, okay, I think that the disengagement.
I think Smotrich was correct when he said, I'm sorry
my mistake there. I think the which another quote that
I'm sure you're familiar with. But Douve Weis Clapp, who
was the senior advisor to Sharon was the Prime Minister
at the time. He essentially said, the reason we're doing
the disengagement, the reason we're doing this is so that
we can put the peace process in formaldehyde. This is
the reason we're not asking my question. I'm getting the
right wing is really posted. But what I'm getting this
reason I'm getting there. I'm saying, So, I think they
disengaged in order to kill the peace process. I think
they put the full blockade around the.
Speaker 11: I don't know what you're talking about running from Sam.
We offered to do the debate on the Crucible and
they won't do it. I mean, you can look at
what I've posted right here. He himself said, set up
the debate on the Crucible. All Burke said he debate
any topic So where do you get the idea that
I'm running from him? And we've been asking multiple times
to come to debate on the Crucible. That's what they
said they would be willing to do all Burg said
he would to make money any topic. Sam Chumunn said
thirteen fifteen hours ago, he's willing to debate on the Crucible.
Now they won't do it. So what are you talking
about that I'm running. Here's the offer right here, Kai
and I will debate Sam Schmun and Albert on the
Crucible on their inconsistent ac Leae position and their pre
post Vatican two contradictions. The debate must be formal with
cross examinations on the Crucible right there where? And what
basis do you have that I'm running when I literally
asked him last night to go to the Crucible to debate,
I mean, what does that have to do with if
Andrew Wilson? How is even if Andrew Wilson's bad faith?
Why was Shamun saying last night to do the debate
on the Crucible and I said, Art, let's go over there.
I called him three times during my stream last night
to debate, and he wouldn't do it. And then I said, Okay,
I'll go to the Crucible. You get Albrecht, I said,
Albrecht and Shimun last night, can go to the Crucible
and we'll do it. Look what did he say last night? Crucible?
Tell the dog gay Liar to agree to debate William
Albrecht in the near future. Okay, we did it right here,
Kai and I offered debate Shmuna Albret on the Crucible.
How many more offers? Sam did not say the debate
on the Crucible? Can you read what it says right here?
You can't read. They're at the Crucible, so you're just
gonna lie? Do you have me to make it big?
Can you not read that? Look? What is it sir?
Here at the Crucible? Tell gay Liar to agree to
debate right there? What do you mean he didn't say
the Crucible? It's right there. Why would I not debate
on the largest, fastest growing debate platform and they say
I have to go to some rando unknown Catholic channel
to do it. Why it's he I'm agreeing to what
he said, like thirteen twenty hours ago, whenever it was
he said this last night at the Crucible. Tell gay
Liar to debate William Albrick. Okay, let's do it. Here's
the offer, Kai and I will debate shamun and all
brickt on the Crucible. All Brick said he would debate
me on any topic. Let's do the inconsistency of the
Assyrian Church of the East position and second less debate
pre impost Vatican to contradictions. And then what did Sam
do to make sure that that didn't happen? He went
after Andrew for no reason. Andrew invited Sam shamun On
and William albert On to debate me. So Sam attacks
Andrew for no reason. I don't debate on modern a debate.
I'm not going back on modern a debate.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 11: That guy, for no reason, just decided that he doesn't
like me. I've never said anything bad about it. I've
never talked about anything. I only debate on my channel,
Jake Rattlesnake or Crucible. And I'm already debating apostate profit
on Rattlesnake channel. So my offer is this, And there's
no reason, there's no real coherent reason that they can't
do a debate on the Crucible when they literally said
they wanted on the crucible. So these people play games.
This is what Albricks has always done. Did I not
tell you guys at the beginning of the stream last night?
This is what Albrick has always done. In twenty nineteen,
I tried to schedule a debate with Albrick. He said
it has to be in person or on radio. I'm
like radio person, it's the Internet age. What are you
talking about? Then he says, okay, give me six months.
Six months later, Hey, a lot of stuff's come up.
I don't give you another three months right. Oh hey,
I can't do it. I need more time. So I
just gave up. And then Albricks says, you run away,
you won't debate. The reason UBI said he's not interested
in debating with Albrick is because Albrick does the did
the same thing to him, and then they say, oh
you see how they run? See how they run? Show
the comments of Andrew Wilson responding to Sam, I don't
know where, but I mean this person is having like
a straight up meltdown. Do the people in his chat
not see what? Don't they don't they can't recognize like
a manic episode? First of all, why does he think
that dust particles are miraculous signs that he's a prophet
and that God's angels are with him. You know, he
believes that about these quote orbs that are literally just
dust particles in his ratty ass cat infested apartment, so
cat hair flies past his camera, and he literally thinks
that the orb dust angels catnip angels are like blessing him.
And he's doing everything he can to make sure that
we don't even want to interact with him because he's
so nasty, because he doesn't want to have a debate
about the topics.
Speaker 17: Yes, while seeing the splintered the eyes of others, filthy,
wicked orthobros, you guys, you are a cancer dude.
Speaker 18: May God cut you off permanently in Jesus name.
Speaker 17: Rightness, while seeing the splintered the eyes of others, filthy
wicked orthobros, You guys, you are a cancer dude.
Speaker 18: May God cut you off permanently in Jesus name.
Speaker 11: Where does he think he gets the does he? I
think he thinks he really is a prophet, Like he
thinks he is some sort of ordained, self appointed prophet
and he has the authority to cut people off of
the church or the I mean he's just insane, Like
he's literally having a manic episode.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 11: He hads that he has the narcissistic problems which led
to his divorce, and he prophesied that Jamie will leave
me for the prophecy.
Speaker 18: You guys ready because he's a narcissist. Okay, watch what's
gonna happen.
Speaker 17: You're ready for the prophecy because I've seen this sadly,
I have to live with this for ten years and it's.
Speaker 18: Turned me to a bitter man.
Speaker 11: Well, there you go, and he's a bitter person.
Speaker 18: Jay gay liar.
Speaker 17: Here's what's gonna happen. You're not gonna last in your marriage.
Your marriage is gonna end.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 17: Not wishing it on you, God knows. I don't wish
to son anyone. But because you're a sick demon, you're
full of satan, You're a scum narcissist.
Speaker 11: This so for those of you that can't recognize a
manic episod, So I mean, why like, why are you
even here? Like, go follow your guy, go to Rome.
I mean Rome is perfect for you, guys. Rome is
full of pre last, full of charismatic delusions, full of
leather daddies so Albert can have his full of leather
daddies sat Vdal's two dollars. I love your work, Do
not fall for Appeal to the orb Fallacy Nney part
of ten dollars Day. I'm a lifelong Orthodox. I'm curious
if you know what happened to Sam Shamun.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 11: He used to be very good, especially when he would
debate with David Wood. Now he's lost his mind. What
happened to him? I don't know, clown mode ten dollars.
I first encountered you when you debated Redeem Zumer. Thanks
for everything that you do, Hey, thank you appreciate that.
Bobby c Haha. There's no ginger choose or expresses for
you today, exactly, scumba bear ten dollars. It's so weird
that Sam went after Andrew and then he apologized to Andrew,
and then he edited the post and now he's mad
at Andrew again. This is like bipolar disorder. So if
you can't recognize bipolar, that's what's going on.
Speaker 16: In the stream.
Speaker 11: The initial stream from a couple of days ago, where
he was saying that there's Protestants that are having better
trinitarian presentations than the Catholics. The Catholics are good here
but weak here. I said that, well, the problem is
just that neither of them have a good model. And
I'd like for you. I invited him and Albreck to
come have a time response, that's all.
Speaker 13: It was.
Speaker 11: Like, a like, why would he not want to have
a time response that way, nobody talks to everybody. Palamas
is claiming that Muslims worship the same God according to Sam,
I mean, that's just insane. I mean, Palamas has an
entire apologetic against Muslims in the Norman Russell text. He
doesn't know anything about Palamas. I mean, you heard him
blaspheming the energies right. My original question to him, which
made him so mad, was why don't you and Albrick
come debate energies on my channel? And it can be
timed in that way, it's civil exchange. And that's all
it took for him to have this entire two day meltdown.
And so I gave it some time yesterday until I
waited till the evening, and I messaged him on Skype. Right,
and again here here's another meltdown. This is how when
you respond when you ask him and you say, let's
just have a civil conversation. We can pick where to
do it where there's timed responses. That was what I
asked him again. So this is the third time. The
second time. First time I ask him for debate is
in the morning, second time at night. Here's his response
last night, we're gonna call you out.
Speaker 18: We're gonna get you. Don't worry about it now, girl, get.
Speaker 4: Some more energies.
Speaker 11: Get some more energies. Maybe we'll help you. So he
thinks the divine energy just this laughable thing, and that's
why he's going after Palomas today. So he doesn't realize
he's literally burning his own idiotic bridges when when he
finds out that all the Eastern Catholics also believe in Palomas,
he's also going to alienate all them, which is just
stupid on his part and is a cumunust. Vatican, by
the way, admits that Palomas can be revered as a saint,
so he doesn't even know any of that though that's
all new to him.
Speaker 17: Like I said, thanks for the received, bab, I want
to show them more random want.
Speaker 11: So he thinks that we're running when we keep asking
This is two days in a row now of me
multiple times four times now asking to do a public debate.
The first time was in the morning. I asked him
and William Albrecht to have a civil timed response on
my channel over these issues. He flips out, says, I'm
manifesting and I'm a demon because I'm messaging while he's streaming.
Don't look at your phone if he's a distraction. I
message him later that night and I say, let's have
a civil discussion on this. It's all I said.
Speaker 8: This is his.
Speaker 11: Response, and there's a whole bunch more. It's about twenty
more of his insane I mean not literally twenty, there's
probably five more of his just insane. When you ask
him this. When he gets into this mode, all he
does is just cuts you out and just sail this
nonsense right. So it's not even worth interacting with him
at this point because he's he's bipolar. You can all
see if you don't know what bipolar is, this is it,
and it's manic. It's manic bipolar, and this is called
a manic episode. What you're seeing all because I just
asked him and Albert to come debate these topics in
a civil way. And by the way, I asked him
and Albert to come debate me two on one. It
just has to be time so that we don't yap
and yellow for each other. Right, So all of this
has been to create smoke and mirror to avoid actually
debating the topics which he doesn't know. And that's why
the first thing he does is try to run to
any dirt, any drama. He goes to theoria. I mean
that dude doesn't even write it anymore. He retired because
he embarrassed himself. Nobody takes that dude Ben, whatever his
name was, seriously. He quit writing. He went to go
make hipster video projects. He doesn't do online drama anymore.
So this is the second offer to debate. Last night,
when I'm doing my stream critiquing them, he says, come debate. Scared.
I call on Skype three times. He won't answer. I
say send me the stream yard link. I don't go
on stream Yard. I say put the link here in
the chat. He doesn't reply. This is on Skype. Okay.
Then it's come to the crucible. Andrew is live. Come
we'll all hop on the crucible. I say, let's go
go get Albert, let's go in the Crucible. They won't
do it. Fourth time today, fourth offer today, Kai and
I will debate Sam Shimun and Albert on the Crucible,
the very place that Sam Shimun originally said he wants
to do a debate. Why do you think he's going
after Andrew so that Andrew won't have him on? Do
you see a pattern here? Every opportunity that actually arises,
he then has a nasty melt down so that it
won't happen in that way, there won't be a debate there,
so that he can eventually just have some random, random
Catholic guy who nobody knows. And then when I say
I'm not going on that random news channel, oh look
at you running. So if you're claiming that I'm running
after four offers to debate after he won't answer three
skype calls where he can stream and I can stream
the same time, where's the evidence that I'm running? You
understand that Shamun himself has said he doesn't have the
capabilities to answer these questions. That's why I told him
to bring Albrecht. I've asked four times to debate them both.
Now he's made up with Andrew again. He's just doing
this so that Andrew will get tired of him, and
then he can say that Andrew's a bad person and
it has to be a debate on whatever. He'd all
the same stuff to Nick Flints. I'm sure he did.
I'm sure he did. Imagine Peter called Paul a demon
in a gay when Paul was trying to correct him. Well,
i mean, who's actually acted like they have a manifestation.
Who's the one that says he wants to see the
death of all the.
Speaker 17: Organizers while seeing the splinter of the eyes of others?
Falthy wicked orthobros? You guys, you are a cancer dude.
May God cut you off prominently.
Speaker 4: In Jesus nay.
Speaker 11: So, this is a person with severe delusions, manic, bipolar,
and he's having an episode. It's that simple. I mean,
who comes on a podcast to try to curse people's
marriage and wish all the orthobros to die. It's just
it's just insane. And if you can't recognize it, like
you deserve you deserve Rome and you deserve Shimun. That's
what you get. That's what you deserve. William is a
good man. You guys are crazy. Get out of here.
I don't. It doesn't matter if Muslims are having a
field day. So no, Shamun would not do anything with
nick Flints. So where's the evidence that I'm running from
a debate? This is the fourth offer to debate. Let's
go back for I mean, all this dramas of is
stupid anyway. I mean, look, here's what's going to happen.
We all know he's going to run off William Albrett.
So I mean, when a person is this unhinged, they're
their own worst enemy. But they can't even see it for.
Speaker 16: The reason that they've always kind of done it there
that Yeah, they don't want too much stuff getting in.
They want to keep them as they put it on
a diet, and they don't want rockets to fly into Israel.
Speaker 19: The second one is a kind of important one, isn't it?
Speaker 11: The final Yes, it is.
Speaker 19: If the Palestinian leadership in Gaza after two thousand and
five had not from the get go decided to use
Gaza as a stockpiling place for rockets to fire into Israel,
all of it would be different if they had just
resisted the temptation that so many of us do in
our lives to stop keeping RPGs in our cellars and
then katusha rockets in our children's bedrooms. All of it
could have been different. If that desire to live in
peace beside your neighbors had superseded the desire to stockpile rockets.
It would all be different.
Speaker 16: Israelsriied them for sixty years, It would all be different.
Speaker 19: Always, Well, you believe in self determination, I'm sure, yes,
I believe in individual rights. Yeah, ok, individual rights, and
that includes the right to make bad decisions.
Speaker 11: Here we go, yes, the Palestinians. And he got I mean,
here's your here's your leather daddy. Tell me this is
not this is so leather daddy. Dude, Look at that,
the stupid ass AI picture of him in this tight
leather black outfit motorcycle leather daddy outfit. I mean, come on, dude,
tell me that's not a leather daddy. And by the way,
who uses AI softening technology on their profiles? By the way,
which he does. Look at this, He's like, I don't
know how old he is.
Speaker 4: My age?
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, here he is saying what he would do
in person, right, I found us. By the way, this
is from a long time ago. Don't worry, let die
or no, I would bully him in person, not just
behind the computer. Oh oh, what does that mean, leather daddy?
Where is his profile? Trying to fund his profile. By
the way, here's his classic Nestorian statement. If you didn't know,
these guys are hilarious. They don't know the christology. The
Syrian Church is correct. I was going to defend the
Assyrian Church at ease. They refuse to face me. This
is the fourth time we've offered to debate you in
the last few days. This was from twenty twenty one.
By the way, I'm trying to find his actual profile
because he's got this like filter that he used. It's
funny watch this. Yeah, that is not what he looks like.
He's like photoshops his uh face to be all smooth, right,
and it fits perfectly with this leather daddy ethos right.
Speaker 19: Anyway, as when they voted in Jamaz made a very
bad decision.
Speaker 16: Yeah, of course, hang on, yes, hang on.
Speaker 19: And in the years after that, they made bad decision
after bad decision. It was a very bad decision to
continually fire thousands of rockets into Israel.
Speaker 11: It was a very you're wondering why we would why
he would defend the Nestorian Chris uh shirt. It's because
he's he's a Roman Catholic. Roman Catholics have revised and
rejected Ephesus. They think Ephesus was wrong. You've heard Voice
of Reason say it. William is live waiting for me
to debate. They asked for a neutral platform. Are you
guys serious? This is so ridiculous. Is William going to
come to my channel? Of course not. We've offered four
times to do debates. The last offer is on a
public platform. All they have to do is tell Andrew
when they want to do it. Let's do it. What
did Andrew say? You guys keep asking me to pull
this up.
Speaker 4: Does he not.
Speaker 11: Understand that the Russian Orthodox Church is not a papacy
like the MP isn't the pope And if they do this,
it's just as wrong as the papacy. But I don't
have the same ecclesiology as the papists. What is this nonsense?
Look at look at this guy's spurging out.
Speaker 4: What is this?
Speaker 11: Where is the Andrews section? I mean, all these arguments
might be good arguments if the papacy, if the Patriarchate
of Russia was the papacy, but is it under this one.
Let's see if it's under this one, Crucible, Andrew, it
seems unreasonable to think I would have the backstron all this.
All I said was I was willing to host a
debate as I was live at this time. I didn't
say negative about either party. I'm happy to moderate a
future debate. Sam liked that comment. My apology, brother, I
assume you're an enemy. Since the Ortho baits keep foaming
in the comments about you, I now figured out you're
the guy that eats ubliberals. I will edit this post.
I am that guy. I am orthodox. However, I've moderated
thousands of debates and I'm neutral. I also tag William,
I tag William, so try to connect with each other.
So there you go. There they don't have a problem
with the Crucible. So this was what a few hours ago,
sixteen hours ago,