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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from Studio A here at Proven Winners

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<v Speaker 1>Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>radio and YouTube show with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick Weist,

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<v Speaker 1>and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to extend the season. We talked in previous weeks about

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<v Speaker 1>how data shows that our growing seasons are getting longer. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can enjoy the beauty longer with holiday clippings, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're thankful for another great growing year, and we harvest

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<v Speaker 1>the cuttings from the landscape to celebrate with bows and

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<v Speaker 1>arrangements and entry porch pots and swags and wreaths and

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<v Speaker 1>indoor arrangements. You can decorate on a budget use landscape clippings. Stacy,

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep the party going.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree completely. You know, everybody's running around at the

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<v Speaker 2>store getting this, getting that. Need flowers, need points out,

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<v Speaker 2>I need this. But really, even if you have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a very modest kind of landscape or garden, I guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>you there as so much potential sitting right there in

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<v Speaker 2>your yard that you can use to make all of

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<v Speaker 2>these things extra special, or to make them in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place. You know, and It just takes little creativity

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<v Speaker 2>and a little bit of looking at the plants around you,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe with a different eye than you do in the

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<v Speaker 2>spring or summer. But I think the most important thing

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<v Speaker 2>that people need to know is that, yes, you can

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely cut from this stuff within reason. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about going out there and scalping your arbor idy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to make a garland to go down your

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<v Speaker 2>dramatic staircase. We're talking about a little bit of clippings

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<v Speaker 2>here and there to just spruce up the holiday table.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, or in my limb a rick today I

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<v Speaker 1>will address possibly going over to the neighbor's house and

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<v Speaker 1>taking a few clippings. But however you do it, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>holiday clippings to make things festive. I personally think holiday

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<v Speaker 1>hanging baskets are lots of fun to make. I've made

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them over the course of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I love making holiday hanging baskets because they're almost like

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas ornaments hanging there. And we have some pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>some of my baskets for the website Gardening Simplified on

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<v Speaker 1>air dot com. Of course, if you're watching on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>also you can see these baskets and Stacy. The great

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<v Speaker 1>thing about these holiday baskets of clippings you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to water them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you gotta love that. You definitely don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be watering anything in winter I slicks underneath. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a bad scene all around.

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<v Speaker 1>So clippings from the landscape, everything from ornamental grasses to evergreens.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, we'll show you a picture

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<v Speaker 1>here too of a dark eyed junko that was on

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<v Speaker 1>my miscanthus just picking away at the seeds this week.

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<v Speaker 1>The wildlife love it, and of course we can create

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<v Speaker 1>some really cool arrangements with it. Stacy rose hips and

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<v Speaker 1>calikarpa buried stems. And then of course you know you

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<v Speaker 1>got to go to holly holly, whether it's broad leaf

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<v Speaker 1>evergreen holly or the deciduous.

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<v Speaker 2>Holly as is depicted here in our arrangement in studio.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are on YouTube, you will see that holly

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<v Speaker 2>is a great choice. And you know that this winterbury

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<v Speaker 2>holly I've talked about it in the past is so

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<v Speaker 2>abundant throughout Michigan, just growing wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>No, granted, you can't go to someone else's property and

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<v Speaker 2>just start cutting their winterbury holly like there's no tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you happen to be near some that you

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<v Speaker 2>can cut, it's a great way to just have a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of color and wildness and all of that

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<v Speaker 2>in your holiday table.

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<v Speaker 1>Colors, amazing pine cones, of course, pine and fur. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas is fur. The scent of fur. I just love it.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course they have the thick and waxy needles,

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<v Speaker 1>so they've got great needle retention too.

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<v Speaker 2>So all those years in the garden center didn't ruin

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<v Speaker 2>fur for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Ash, I'll tell you what ruined it for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to cover that in Branching News. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what ruined it for me. The smell of

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<v Speaker 1>cinnamon scented pine cone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's the worst. And why do the stores, thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>And why do the stores always put them in like

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<v Speaker 2>the foyer or like the you know, the opening to

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<v Speaker 2>the store. So you're in that tiny, little, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>condensed area. The heat's blasting because it's cold outside, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just get like overwhelmed with this like fake cinnamon scent.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people walk out with a migraine.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll cover that in Branching News. But I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>glad you feel that way, Stacy. Sassafras, red and gold

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<v Speaker 1>twig dogwood. Of course, Stacy, you've talked on the show

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<v Speaker 1>before about.

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<v Speaker 2>Arctic fire, and yeah, I love Arctic fire. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the red twig dogwood is another one that grows abundantly

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<v Speaker 2>around just around Michigan. You can't hardly throw a stick

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<v Speaker 2>without running into into one in a natural area. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really glad that you mentioned the sassafras because I

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<v Speaker 2>think we talked about this last year as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>that has also been added to our arrangement in studio

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<v Speaker 2>because of you, Rick. And it's not something I would

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<v Speaker 2>normally think of including, but it looks so cool. The

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<v Speaker 2>stems are kind of green, the buds are very very

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<v Speaker 2>unique and noticeable, and you know that's something that like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sassafras is almost is probably at least as

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<v Speaker 2>ubiquitous as red twig dogwood, and a bit more ubiquitous

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<v Speaker 2>than the winterbury holly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And there's so many things again, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just creative about it. You know, I mentioned the ornamental

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<v Speaker 1>grass inflorescence and seedum's willow panicle, hydrangeous stems, boxwood, southern magnolia, cami, cypress,

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<v Speaker 1>birch branches, you know, for outdoor arrangements, not indoors, but

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor arrangements, Stacey, I even like to look for branches

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<v Speaker 1>that are completely covered in lichens.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that. Yeah, I would put those inside. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>would you like it? I do? I love it? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I wish it would last longer, but it's so pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>And you named a lot of things like the panicle

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<v Speaker 2>hydrangeas stems that are kind of brown. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that is a bit too dismal for your

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<v Speaker 2>holiday table, you know, you can always just use a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of spray paint. Sure, I'm not usually a

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<v Speaker 2>big fan of gilding the lily when it comes to nature,

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<v Speaker 2>as it were. But you know, this is the main

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<v Speaker 2>thing I think is that all of these ideas are

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<v Speaker 2>a great way to either keep your kids busy on

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<v Speaker 2>a holiday when they're sitting around board, you can send

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<v Speaker 2>them out into the backyard with some inspiration, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just as a way for you to find some solace

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<v Speaker 2>amid the hecticness of the holiday and to share your

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<v Speaker 2>garden in a way that you don't usually.

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<v Speaker 1>Get to exactly keep the season going for our friends

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<v Speaker 1>in the South, Nandina is often used, and then stacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you'll see an arrangement sumac, but I don't recommend

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<v Speaker 1>that because for a lot of people they can get

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<v Speaker 1>a nasty rash from soup.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh is that so? I didn't know that. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is messy. It is at this time of year. Even

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<v Speaker 2>if it still has some berries clinging to it, they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of have those little hairs everywhere and that could

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit. No one needs a bigger mess

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<v Speaker 2>on Thanksgiving. We're not trying to make a bigger mess

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<v Speaker 2>for you. We're trying to give you a little something

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<v Speaker 2>to make the day more memorable. And again to bring

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<v Speaker 2>the garden inside, because it is the end of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about harvest, and the harvest isn't just about food,

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<v Speaker 2>it is about the garden as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Now, think about using anti dessicant sprays for

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<v Speaker 1>your arrangements. It's basically pine resin. Don't use floor wax

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<v Speaker 1>or hair spray like aquanette. I've seen people do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do wrack up.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it would just get sticky right and and then

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<v Speaker 2>like dust and stuff would stick to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't do that. If you're cutting from your own landscape,

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<v Speaker 1>be cautious not to cut too much. Like Stacy said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just taking some clippings and use some caution toosionally

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<v Speaker 1>inspect your clippings because well, bugs can be over wintering

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<v Speaker 1>and you bring them inside that that's going to really

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<v Speaker 1>add to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'll be fun. The cattle go crazy, distract everybody

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<v Speaker 2>from all the talk of politics at the holiday table.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe you do want to bring in the bugs.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you clip some evergreen branches, maybe put them in

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<v Speaker 1>water before you use them in your arrangement. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to try and keep them nice and hydrated. And along

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<v Speaker 1>the lines of evergreen branches. I like using mixed evergreens.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it really adds to both the aroma and

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<v Speaker 1>the appearance. So if you're mixing spruce with douglas, fur

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<v Speaker 1>with fur, with pine with juniper, I really think that

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<v Speaker 1>that adds to the arrangements. Bearing in mind that shorter

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<v Speaker 1>needled evergreens like hemlock or spruce tend to lose their

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<v Speaker 1>needles a lot quicker than let's say, pine or fur.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me give you my limerick here. And as

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<v Speaker 1>I said in branching news. We're going to talk about aroma,

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<v Speaker 1>including cinnamon pine cones. Uh, but let me give you

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<v Speaker 1>a limerick about pruning your neighbor's plants. For one of

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<v Speaker 1>these arrangements, I'm pruning well after midnight in my neighbor's

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<v Speaker 1>yard with a flashlight. Despite the fact I am nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>I consider my pruning a service and helpful, not impolite.

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<v Speaker 1>Once my arrangements are built, before they begin to wilt,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bring my neighbor delicious treats, some delectable holiday eats

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with my nagging guilt.

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<v Speaker 2>That you were going a little bit for a grnch

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<v Speaker 2>vibe there. I was starting to get a little bit worried.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know where it was going.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I would take care of my neighbor and bring

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<v Speaker 1>some treats. But if they've got something good to clip

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<v Speaker 1>in their landscape, I might just be tempted. But you'd ask,

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<v Speaker 2>And they would probably be like, oh, well, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good idea, now I want it now.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a number of universities that University of Idaho

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<v Speaker 1>is one that comes to mind where their landscape teams

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<v Speaker 1>in November will spray trees on campus with a natural

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<v Speaker 1>repellent of skunk scent and fox urine, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>a sticking agent to protect them from theft and destruction

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<v Speaker 1>during the holiday season.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's a big business. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a big clipping when you go over to

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<v Speaker 1>an evergreen tree and take the top out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so people are like stealing them for small like

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas trees or that's horrendous.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is. It's terrible. So you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>you bring something like that into the living room and

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, room temperature, that is going to smell very,

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<v Speaker 1>very bad. Now, they do put up signage that warns

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<v Speaker 1>people to try to deter thieves in the public from

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<v Speaker 1>taking a major for green clipping, but just beware.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's good. I'm glad that they do that, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't want to be like surprised the

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<v Speaker 2>trees already damaged and now you have something horribly smelling

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<v Speaker 2>in your possession that you've got to deal with, So

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<v Speaker 2>better to just try to hopefully avoid the damage in

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<v Speaker 1>You got it, You got it now. Of course, if

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<v Speaker 1>work from the center out to the outside, thinking Thriller, Filler, Spiller,

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<v Speaker 1>and Stacey. That can just be so much fun, especially

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you need the soil fod but then you're

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<v Speaker 2>matte a carpet of something very softly pine, some pine boughs,

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<v Speaker 2>the arrangement over that. You know, we should We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, garden centers, greenhouses, floral shops, you're right, bundles of

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<v Speaker 1>boughs and twigs. And of course while you're there too,

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<v Speaker 1>you could pick up a package of some of these

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<v Speaker 1>great led lights they have today that are very small,

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<v Speaker 1>easy to work with, indestructible and they'll really light up

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<v Speaker 1>your clipping display. Well, let's see how Stacey ties this

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<v Speaker 1>all together. Coming up next in Plants on Trial. You're

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<v Speaker 2>Proven Winners Colored Choice Shrubs cares about your success in

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<v Speaker 2>the garden. That's why we trial and test all of

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<v Speaker 2>our shrubs for eight to ten years, making sure they

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<v Speaker 2>the distinctive white container at your local garden center. Greeting's

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<v Speaker 2>gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show,

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<v Speaker 2>where the order of the day is taking a little

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<v Speaker 2>something from your garden to make the holidays a bit

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<v Speaker 2>more special. And you know that could mean I think

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<v Speaker 2>sprucing up a store bought arrangement, Like say you buy

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<v Speaker 2>some nice yellow moms and you're just thinking, well, gee,

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<v Speaker 2>those are pretty. The color works for me, but it

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<v Speaker 2>feels kind of summary. You know, you can go and

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<v Speaker 2>yard and mix it together and bring it up a

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<v Speaker 2>little more up to season, that kind of thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>before I get into today's plan on trial, I did

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<v Speaker 2>want to thank you for bringing up the LED lights

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<v Speaker 2>because it triggered a memory for me of when I

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<v Speaker 2>was really little and we didn't usually put Christmas lights

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<v Speaker 2>up or anything like that, but one year we did.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was probably like four ish years old or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. And yeah, this would have been like

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<v Speaker 2>the late seventies, so those winters were really cold, and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember being out there super bundled up, like to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where you're just like tottering around you can't

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<v Speaker 2>even walk. And I believe my mom told me that

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<v Speaker 2>the lights that my dad was putting up were from

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<v Speaker 2>my grandparents, so they were like old lights hadn't really

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<v Speaker 2>been put away, and they were the old kind, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not these new LEDs that are indestructible. Yeah, the big

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<v Speaker 2>old bulbs, which look amazing have such a retro vibe now.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it was dark, and my brother and

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<v Speaker 2>I are out with my dad just you know, playing

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<v Speaker 2>around and we are just stepping on these bulbs left

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<v Speaker 2>and not on purpose. You know, we can't see anything,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know what we're doing, but we're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>starting to realize that it's kind of cool to step

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<v Speaker 2>on these and make that sound. And oh man, my

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<v Speaker 2>dad was so mad. And I don't believe that we

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<v Speaker 2>ever did put up the Christmas lights that year. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's good to know now that the LEDs eliminate that

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not alone because again, working in the garden

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<v Speaker 1>center industry, Stacey, we sold thousands and thousands and thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of packages of replacement C nine and SEE seven lights.

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<v Speaker 1>And the LED lights today today are incredible. When they

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<v Speaker 1>first came out with them, they had all the warmth

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<v Speaker 1>and romance of a hospital operating group.

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<v Speaker 2>They're so bright and so blue, and now they're much better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got the warm tones back in there. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you see one of those holenses with the old

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<v Speaker 2>C seven bolved, it kind of gives you hits. You

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<v Speaker 2>right in the fields.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, back to decorating with plants and not lights.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that you know, too many people feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they have to go big when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>bringing some of the garden indoors. You know, again, like

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about, you don't need to do a reef,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't need to do a swag. You can do

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<v Speaker 2>something really small. And I think one of the nicest

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<v Speaker 2>things that you can do or do with your kids,

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<v Speaker 2>or have kids do if you need to get them

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<v Speaker 2>out of your hair on the holiday, is just send

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<v Speaker 2>them out to the garden to get little place settings,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, have at each place, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>plate and on the napkin, just a little something from

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<v Speaker 2>the garden. And I think that you know, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best bases if you are stuck for inspiration in

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<v Speaker 2>doing this, one of the absolute best bass that you

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<v Speaker 2>can use is arbor ding. Oh, I mean, arborvid is

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<v Speaker 2>so ubiquitous. Now you might have to pull a rix

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<v Speaker 2>limerick and get some from a neighbor if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have some. But you can find arborvity just about anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in such large quantities that you know, trimming some of

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<v Speaker 2>those sprigs isn't really gonna matter. No one will even

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<v Speaker 2>note that you're there. The foliage is soft, it's not prickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the way that it kind of just naturally

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<v Speaker 2>nicely on that napkin. And it smells amazing. I adore

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<v Speaker 2>the smell of arborvidy foliage. It's just it's delicious. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no other way to describe it, which is why. Of

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<v Speaker 2>course it's also very popular with deer. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in harbrovid alone might look a little bit lonely. So

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to bring in some other ideas. Now we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about Winterbury holly. Great choice if you have it. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Winterbury holly is definitely one of those plants that you

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<v Speaker 2>should not cut too much off of. It is one

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<v Speaker 2>that is quite slow to recover. It's a slow growing shrub,

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<v Speaker 2>so a spray couple sprigs here and there aren't a problem,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly not the kind of thing that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>want to. You know, sheer down to do something major

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<v Speaker 2>with red and yellow twig dogwoods like Arctic fire red

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<v Speaker 2>and Arctic fire yellow. Those are all things that you

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<v Speaker 2>might know. But I wanted to talk about something that

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<v Speaker 2>you might not consider, and that is rose hips.

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<v Speaker 1>A love it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, rose hips have been enjoyed for literally centuries

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<v Speaker 2>as food as decoration in cosmetics, and they're still popular

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<v Speaker 2>to this day, especially in the Eastern Europe for food.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you go to an Eastern European grocery store,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna see rosep syrup, rose hips in syrup. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going to find all of these different food supplies. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the US it's you really know, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see this in more specialty kind of stores. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think most people, if you were to say rose hips,

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<v Speaker 2>they would be like, roses have hips? What are you

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<v Speaker 2>talking about? And I think a lot of that stems

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<v Speaker 2>from the fact that, you know, in modern US history,

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<v Speaker 2>the primary roses that people were growing were hybrid tea roses.

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<v Speaker 2>So hybrid t roses to issues with them. Number one,

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<v Speaker 2>the flowers tend to be double, so all of those

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<v Speaker 2>reproductive organs that would normally become the hip or the

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<v Speaker 2>fruit the berry of the rose are buried by petals

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<v Speaker 2>and don't get pollinated, and so you never see any

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<v Speaker 2>fruit develop. And overall, they're just not likely to set

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<v Speaker 2>that fruit anyway, even if insects could access those parts.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, hybrid t roses need dead heading if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to have any kind of you know, reasonably good

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<v Speaker 2>continuous display, you need to deadhead hybrid tea roses. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I would say there was a good one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred seventy five to one hundred year span of American

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<v Speaker 2>garden history where people didn't even think for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>the exception of rogosa roses or what they call betroses,

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<v Speaker 2>of roses having attractive fruit. Now that all changed with

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<v Speaker 2>landscape roses. So when landscape roses, these disease resistant landscape

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<v Speaker 2>roses like are So Easy series, which I know I

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<v Speaker 2>still haven't told you the name of today's plant on trial.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not a O So easy rose to stick

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<v Speaker 2>with me. But when these kind of hit the scene,

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<v Speaker 2>it changed all that. Because these were roses that tended

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<v Speaker 2>to be single or semi double, so those reproductive organs

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<v Speaker 2>were accessible to pollinators, they didn't need dead heading to

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<v Speaker 2>bloom continuously, and just for whatever combination of genetics, they

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<v Speaker 2>tended to actually set fruit like this. So these are

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<v Speaker 2>some rose hips that are from an oh So easy rose,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can see they're really quite nice. The rosehips

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<v Speaker 2>can vary a lot from being a really cheerful, bright

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<v Speaker 2>red to kind of more of an orange like this.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously the red ones are perfect for Christmas, and

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<v Speaker 2>these more orangey ones are ideal for Thanksgiving. You can

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<v Speaker 2>see they still have the klyx there where the flower

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<v Speaker 2>was attached, so this is the fruit that is developed.

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<v Speaker 2>They can be round, they can be oblong, they can

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<v Speaker 2>be big, they can be small. These are probably about

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<v Speaker 2>medium size. So there's just a huge diversity.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love Rosa rigosa. You mentioned Rosa rigosa, and

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<v Speaker 1>on the East Coast you'll see a number of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I have pictures with a bright.

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<v Speaker 2>Yellow ooh, that's pretty Yeah. I love the rose. Hips

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<v Speaker 2>on Rosa rogosa don't have any It is considered the

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<v Speaker 2>deer resistant rose. I would be hesitant to try that myself,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing how my local deer are, but I do love

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<v Speaker 2>Rosa rogosa. But the fact is that pretty much any

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<v Speaker 2>of these newer roses that don't need deadheading are likely

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<v Speaker 2>to set fruit like this, as is the case with

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<v Speaker 2>today's plant on trial, Ringo double pink rose. Now, we

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<v Speaker 2>featured a Ringo rose not all that long ago, back

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<v Speaker 2>in I think it was in August, and we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about these being a rose that's native to the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 2>very very drought tolerant. And again I think because these

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<v Speaker 2>whole temia roses are sort of closer to their wild ancestors,

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<v Speaker 2>they are more likely to actually set fruit. So ringo

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<v Speaker 2>double pink is one that sets fruit. They are on

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<v Speaker 2>the larger side. There are really really nice orange So

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<v Speaker 2>all summer long you're getting these beautiful double pink flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's semi double. I mean you can still see,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the organs in there so that the polliniers

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<v Speaker 2>can access them with a bright red eye. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>the ringo part comes from. And then you know, these

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful pink petals and as they fade, it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>turns more of a purple color. So you're getting a

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<v Speaker 2>great display all summer. And then by the time that

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<v Speaker 2>winds down, you know, come October or thereabouts, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be leaving you these great hips to decorate with

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<v Speaker 2>or just to enjoy. And of course bar and that

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<v Speaker 2>if you never cut a single rose hip to enjoy indoors,

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<v Speaker 2>the birds and squirrels and raccoons and possum and all

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<v Speaker 2>of those will be very happy to eventually take them

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<v Speaker 2>from you. They are one berrier that I have seen

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tends to stick around until it softens quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bet, which is nice from a gardening standpoint because

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<v Speaker 2>you get to enjoy them before they get completely devoured.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you might be thinking, well, this sounds kind of cool,

426
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<v Speaker 2>but aren't those thorny? And the answer to that is

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<v Speaker 2>it depends. So this one that I'm holding here from

428
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<v Speaker 2>an oh so easy rose, some of the stems a

429
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<v Speaker 2>little further down have some tiny, tiny thorns, but you

430
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<v Speaker 2>can easily snap those off to go ahead, and you

431
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<v Speaker 2>add them to your place settings. But by and large

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<v Speaker 2>it's not hard to handle. There's just might be a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of tiny thorns because overall on a rose, the

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<v Speaker 2>thorns form further down on the thicker part of the shop,

435
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<v Speaker 2>not on the skinny little pedicial up here that attaches

436
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<v Speaker 2>the flower.

437
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<v Speaker 1>But perfect for a place setting. And I love what

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<v Speaker 1>you said at the outset that it doesn't have to

439
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<v Speaker 1>be massive, you don't have to be hauling in big branches,

440
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<v Speaker 1>and this is ideal for it. By the away high

441
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<v Speaker 1>in vitamin C too. Oh yes, but you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, the whole concept of cutting

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<v Speaker 1>down an entire tree and dragging it into the house,

444
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<v Speaker 1>that's that's kind of crazy. So this idea that yeah,

445
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<v Speaker 1>place settings and that sort of thing using some rosen

446
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<v Speaker 1>I love that idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to do it this Thanksgiving. I'm going to

448
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try to do it too. So of course

449
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<v Speaker 2>you can take a look at whatever roses are in

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<v Speaker 2>your backyard and see if they have hips and consider

451
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<v Speaker 2>using those in your holiday arrangements. But if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have one, do consider adding one of these roses to

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<v Speaker 2>your planting list for next spring. Ringo double pink would

454
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<v Speaker 2>be a great choice. You can see photos of it

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<v Speaker 2>at Gardening Simplified on air dot com, or of course,

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<v Speaker 2>join us on YouTube and decide if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>add it to your garden or not. I hope you will.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a little break and when we

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<v Speaker 2>come back, we're going to be opening up the garden

460
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<v Speaker 2>mail bags, so please stay tuned. At proven Winner's color Choice,

461
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<v Speaker 2>we've got a shrub for every taste and every Whether

462
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<v Speaker 2>you're looking for an easycare rose and unforgettable hydrangea, or

463
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<v Speaker 2>something new and unique, you can be confident that the

464
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<v Speaker 2>shrubs and the white containers have been trialed and tested

465
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<v Speaker 2>for your success. Look for them at your local garden center. Greetings,

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<v Speaker 2>gardening friends and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show,

467
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<v Speaker 2>where we are at the point of the show where

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<v Speaker 2>we answer your gardening questions. And even though it's November

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<v Speaker 2>and I think a lot of what people think of

470
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<v Speaker 2>doing in the garden is winding down, I think they

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<v Speaker 2>sell have questions. You may, in fact have questions about

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<v Speaker 2>whether you can cut stuff from the garden for Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 2>which we probably won't be able to answer, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can ask it on YouTube as a comment anyway, and

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<v Speaker 2>if we can get back to you in time, we

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<v Speaker 2>certainly will. But otherwise, think about what you can do

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<v Speaker 2>in your backyard, take a walk around, get those ideas cooking,

478
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<v Speaker 2>and if you do have any questions about that or

479
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<v Speaker 2>anything else, you can always reach us at help HLP

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<v Speaker 2>at Gardening Simplified on air dot com, or just visit

481
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<v Speaker 2>Gardening Simplified on air dot com. We've got a contact

482
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<v Speaker 2>form there, very handy you can fill and your information.

483
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<v Speaker 2>You can even attach a photo, which we do recommend

484
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<v Speaker 2>if you're wondering about something that's going wrong or off

485
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<v Speaker 2>the rails, because it's very hard to diagnose without a photo.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they used to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, But I have a lot

488
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<v Speaker 1>of questions year round.

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<v Speaker 2>I do well, I have yes, I have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions and at all gardening really, And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I so often tell our listeners when in doubt, don't,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you are sitting around with those questions, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't know what to do, and you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you have to do something when in doubt, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do we got in the mailbag this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's a note from and I believe, and forgive

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<v Speaker 1>me if I get it wrong. Okay, it's either Gosia

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<v Speaker 1>or Gassia.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say Goosha, but for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's go with Ghosha. I'm going to go with

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy's inclination here, So Goosher writes to us. This year,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a cicada invasion in Chicago Land and my

503
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<v Speaker 1>limelight hydranges especially, and a lot of bushes have lengthwise

504
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<v Speaker 1>cuts into the branches from them laying eggs. Ouch. Can

505
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<v Speaker 1>I trim now my hydranges? And is that better for

506
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<v Speaker 1>them to be trimmed now? I'm afraid the moisture going

507
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<v Speaker 1>in through the cuts may kill the plants. I have

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred proven winners panicle hydranges.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a lot.

510
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<v Speaker 1>That's fabulous.

511
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<v Speaker 2>That is a lot, and it must be amazing to see.

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<v Speaker 2>So unfortunately, Gojha did not include a photo of the

513
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<v Speaker 2>one hundred proven winners panicle hydrange as. We'd love to

514
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<v Speaker 2>see that, but she did include a photo of the

515
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<v Speaker 2>cicada damage. And I thought this was a really interesting

516
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<v Speaker 2>question because I have to tell you, I if I

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<v Speaker 2>had seen this on a plant, cicadas would not have

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<v Speaker 2>been my first thought. No, And I guess I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>not familiar with it. And you know, I know we've

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<v Speaker 2>had some like huge hatches of big broods of cicadas recently,

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<v Speaker 2>so it would not have been my first thought. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have thought it was just kind of regular damage.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm really glad that Goosha made this connection and

524
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<v Speaker 2>is bringing it to people's attention. So please do be

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<v Speaker 2>sure to check us out on YouTube to see a

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<v Speaker 2>picture of what this looks like, or of course we'll

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<v Speaker 2>put it at show notes at Gardening Simplified on air

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<v Speaker 2>dot com so you can see it. And it looks

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of like a regular standard plant injury, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like they cut the cicada's cut a little slit into

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<v Speaker 2>the bark and lay their eggs, and then that bark

532
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<v Speaker 2>just kind of heals over it, so it makes that

533
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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a hot dog bun shape around where

534
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<v Speaker 2>the cicada did that. Now, I would not recommend doing

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<v Speaker 2>anything at all to this. Now, well, okay, actually, let

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<v Speaker 2>me back up. You don't need to worry Gaosha or

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<v Speaker 2>anyone else about disease or dryness or anything entering that wound.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not really going to be an issue for

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<v Speaker 2>the plant. You know, plants get damaged all the time,

540
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<v Speaker 2>and if it was really very easy for disease or

541
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<v Speaker 2>other things to take hold, we'd have a lot more

542
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<v Speaker 2>dead plants on our than we do. So I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it out of those concerns. However, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>is important to know that if you knowing that you

545
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<v Speaker 2>had a big emergence of cicadas in the Chicago area

546
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<v Speaker 2>last year, and knowing that that means that they laid

547
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<v Speaker 2>quite a lot of eggs in your one hundred proven

548
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<v Speaker 2>winters panicle hydrangeas, it might be wise to reduce those

549
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<v Speaker 2>numbers by pruning out these egg laying sites if it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's possible, now I don't think that you should

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<v Speaker 2>go crazy and take out any thick branches that are

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<v Speaker 2>going to like dramatically disfigure your plants. But as you

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<v Speaker 2>can see in Goja's photo, cutting this out is a

554
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<v Speaker 2>small branch, and you know, especially as part of your

555
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<v Speaker 2>regular spring pruning with your panicle hydrangeas, wouldn't even really

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<v Speaker 2>go notice a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's two factors that play here. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>the cicada in the invasion is cyclical. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this is going to pass. As far as panicle

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<v Speaker 1>hydranges are concerned, Stacey, they respond really well to pruning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, they They are very amenable to pruning. They

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<v Speaker 2>will basically be unfazed. And you know, you can actually

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<v Speaker 2>even prune a panicle hydrangel quite hard if you did

564
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<v Speaker 2>need to take out one of those major branches. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the branches that I'm seeing this on are

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<v Speaker 2>pretty small, pretty minor. And this is you know, obviously,

567
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<v Speaker 2>the panicle hydranges are not particularly susceptible to cicada damage.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just the one that Gosha is using as

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<v Speaker 2>an example. But they can lay their eggs on anything, tree, shrub,

570
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<v Speaker 2>any plant. They don't really have any particular preference for this.

571
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<v Speaker 2>But that said, we're talking about pruning panicle hydrangees, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>some plants, some shrubs, you know, if you were to

573
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<v Speaker 2>prune them very hard, they can really struggle to revive

574
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<v Speaker 2>from that. Like we were talking about with the winterbury, Hellie,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a plant that I would recommend very hard

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<v Speaker 2>pruning on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, gosh, it's fantastic that you've got one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred of these panicle hydranges. And I'm crazy about panico

579
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<v Speaker 1>hydrangees too, Stacy. I just think for the general homeowner,

580
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<v Speaker 1>what a fabulous plant.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives a lot and asks a little exactly so

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<v Speaker 2>exactly hard to beat that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Gene writes to us high Stacy and

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<v Speaker 1>Rick a garden in Illinois, Zone six B. I recently

585
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<v Speaker 1>noticed a maple tree we planted probably ten years ago,

586
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<v Speaker 1>is losing its bark. The bark is simply sliding off

587
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<v Speaker 1>the tree. I wonder if it was struck by lightning.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think and will it survive? I look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to your show every week. Appreciate all the great

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<v Speaker 1>garden advice and your sense of humor. I have planted

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<v Speaker 1>several plants due to your great advice. Yesterday I planted

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<v Speaker 1>in El Nino desert rose chapulta. Why do I want

593
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<v Speaker 1>to always say chapulta, you're hungry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't wait to smell it next summer. Blam o, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you both, very mulch.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, great shall as you have no doubt heard. I

598
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<v Speaker 2>have huge enthusiasm for this plant. It is such a

599
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<v Speaker 2>beautiful fragrance. And mine was actually blooming. Here we are

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<v Speaker 2>in late November. Mine was actually blooming up until about

601
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<v Speaker 2>two weeks ago. So tons of interest on there. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about your maple, because this is disturbing this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if this is happening to my maple, I

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<v Speaker 2>would not be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me mention that trees, especially if you're into timber,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to go to lumber mills, okay, and kind

607
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<v Speaker 1>of nose around and look for lumber.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, It's just something I enjoy doing. I

610
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<v Speaker 1>went with a friend. And if you're into timber, then

611
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<v Speaker 1>you're really into the quality of the wood, okay. And

612
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<v Speaker 1>people should be aware. I would recommend that you google this.

613
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<v Speaker 1>Look up the fact that trees get the shakes. They

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<v Speaker 1>get the shakes. Now we've talked about Southwest disease. Before

615
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<v Speaker 1>frost cracks. It's when the sun shines on the tree,

616
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<v Speaker 1>on the bark of the tree, it gets very very cold.

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<v Speaker 1>That expansion, that contraction causes not only splitting, but in

618
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<v Speaker 1>some cases also for bark to fall off. So shakes

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<v Speaker 1>in your timber, and there are all different types. There's

620
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<v Speaker 1>cup shakes. I didn't say cupcakes, I said cup shakes,

621
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<v Speaker 1>heart shakes, star shakes, ring shakes, and radial shakes. Wow,

622
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<v Speaker 1>all different types. And I won't get into it right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but look it up sometime. It's fascinating people that you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you cut a board, you're going to use

625
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<v Speaker 1>it for furniture. You want the quality to be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely.

627
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<v Speaker 1>And so this wood is the structure of it can

628
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<v Speaker 1>change based on temperature, based on sunlight. And I really

629
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<v Speaker 1>think that that's what causes the bark to fall off

630
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<v Speaker 1>some trees. And it's not going to kill the tree,

631
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 1>but it's just active.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Okay, So for those of you who are wondering,

633
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Gene did send a photo and of course that will

634
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<v Speaker 2>be on YouTube as well as on the show. Notes.

635
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<v Speaker 2>And this is not a situation where like some of

636
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<v Speaker 2>the bark is peeling like a river birch or something

637
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.200
<v Speaker 2>like that. I mean, the entire bark has come off

638
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.599
<v Speaker 2>this tree. Uh, and yeah, that is disturbing. Now. I

639
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<v Speaker 2>do have to say, from my limited experience with things

640
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>like this, I specifically deliberately girdled a Norway maple in

641
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<v Speaker 2>my yard because I wanted a dead tree. Yeah, I

642
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 2>did this about two years ago.

643
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I've done that. I don't feel so bad.

644
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Why would you feel bad?

645
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

646
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<v Speaker 2>Dead trees are very useful as well. I mean, probably

647
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.920
<v Speaker 2>more useful than a living Norway maple unless you really

648
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.920
<v Speaker 2>need the shade. But it was not a fan of Norway. Okay,

649
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:39.920
<v Speaker 2>well then not cool. That's not cool. Your neighbors are

650
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:42.279
<v Speaker 2>probably like, listening to the showguing Ricks seems like such

651
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>a nice guy. What are we doing. We're getting to

652
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>get one of those ring cameras and watch up for you.

653
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 2>They're afraid you're telling on yourself. But so so we

654
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>girdled it deliberately because we wanted a dead tree. Because again,

655
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>dead trees are you know. I love to garden for birds.

656
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Dead trees are very very important to bird and insects

657
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 2>and lots of other creatures that I want in the garden,

658
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.640
<v Speaker 2>and so it was just an oroy maple. I'm not

659
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 2>a huge fan, not a really great plant for other

660
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, things that I want a tree for. So

661
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.679
<v Speaker 2>when we girdled it, we just used a razor blade

662
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>to cut a bank slit all around the base. And

663
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.320
<v Speaker 2>what happened is a lot of moisture got up under

664
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.079
<v Speaker 2>there and something very similar happened. So it makes sense

665
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>that this would potentially be due to frost cracking. But

666
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:28.039
<v Speaker 2>this I would think is severe enough that the plant

667
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 2>is not going to survive. I mean, basically she has

668
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.880
<v Speaker 2>lost an entire half of the tree in bark. And

669
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:36.559
<v Speaker 2>as we talked about a few weeks ago, you know,

670
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 2>if the flow of nutrients from the base of the

671
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>tree the roots to the top is disrupted in any

672
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.800
<v Speaker 2>substantial way, then that part of the tree will die.

673
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 2>So you might end up with half a living tree,

674
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>which you probably will want to take down because that

675
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>could become unsafe. So don't know exactly why this happened, Gene.

676
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.000
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say without you know, talking to you

677
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and knowing more about what the situation are is. But

678
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I would say from what I'm seeing and what I

679
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 2>have experienced, it is unlikely to survive, so you might

680
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 2>think about bringing in arborist in and maybe making some firewood.

681
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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a little break. When we come back,

682
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:21.840
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time for

690
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.199
<v Speaker 1>branching news and Stacy. I thought that I would talk

691
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>about some aromas today we enter the holiday season. I

692
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you a question. How do you feel

693
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>about paper white narcissus? Do you like the aroma?

694
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I cannot abide by the smell of paper whites. I

695
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 2>love them. I do like the plants a lot. I

696
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 2>think they're beautiful, but oh the smell just makes me nauseous.

697
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm the same way. Israel is the world's largest

698
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>producer of paper white bulbs, and breeders are currently working

699
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>on new varieties with lower levels of indole, also shorter,

700
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>non floppy paper white varieties. There's a variety called near

701
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Nire that is shorter, squattier, and doesn't flop like a

702
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 1>typical paper white narcissus would, which is fantastic, but for

703
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, that sweet fragrance is just too

704
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>strong or overpowering. Now, if you're gonna get some paper

705
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 1>white narcissus, find out what variety you're getting. It makes

706
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a difference. The most fragrant is a variety called ZeVA

707
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Ziva if you like the aroma. But there are some

708
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>varieties that are far less fragrant. There's in Ball and

709
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 1>there's also winter Sun. Because paper white fragrance is described

710
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:15.079
<v Speaker 1>as being indolic, which is pretty unhelpful if you don't

711
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.840
<v Speaker 1>work in the perfume world. But that translates as having

712
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>an over ripe character. That's the description thing.

713
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess I could see that. It smells to

714
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:30.760
<v Speaker 2>me kind of like, I don't know. It's hard to

715
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:32.440
<v Speaker 2>it is hard to describe, hard.

716
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 1>To describe exactly, and so they they describe it as indole.

717
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>So that's spelled I N D O l E. It's

718
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a sweetness that can both repel and attract us at

719
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the same time. So think paper white and narcissius. Think jasmine,

720
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 1>think gardenias.

721
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that thing, Think.

722
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, And so it's it's complicated. Think ornamental pair blocks.

723
00:37:59.400 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Don't love that.

724
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Now, not just white for paper whites. Also, there is

725
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>a daffodil, a grand soul hedor it's a daffodil heirloom variety.

726
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 1>It dates back to seventeen seventy and you'll get a

727
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of orange and yellow flowers on it. But that

728
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>one's really going to have a lot of fragrance to it. Also,

729
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 1>now a suggestion for you again, I'm recommending you see

730
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>what type of variety you're getting. Because we've often talked

731
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.119
<v Speaker 1>on the show about it being the golden age of

732
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 1>plant breeding, and paper white narcissusts are no different. So

733
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>they're developing these paper white narcissusts that do not have

734
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>such a strong smell and are shorter and squattier, so

735
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>when you plant them in the water and the pebbles

736
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in a dish, they don't get tall to the point

737
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>where they fall over. That said, if you have some

738
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 1>of the older varieties of paper white narcissus. This is

739
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.280
<v Speaker 1>what I do, and this is what I recommend an

740
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>adult beverage for your paper white. Now, I'm sure this

741
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 1>whole thing started at a holiday party, but I have

742
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>done this. You begin with a dilute solution of four

743
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to six inch four to six percent of alcohol when

744
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 1>the shoots are about one to two inches above the bolt,

745
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and don't use beer or wine. There's too much sugar

746
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>in it, so you've got to use alcohol. You can

747
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 1>use rubbing alcohol, but otherwise distilled spirits like gin, vodka, whiskey, rum,

748
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:35.760
<v Speaker 1>even tequila are all fine. So that's interesting. To determine

749
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the correct dilute solution, you take the percentage of alcohol

750
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>on the label and you divide by five. So if

751
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you have a bottle of gin that says forty percent alcohol,

752
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>forty divided by five is eight. So I need an

753
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 1>eightfold dilution to yield five percent alcohol. So we're going

754
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to do seven parts water, one part gin for your

755
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>paper white Narses, and everybody's going to be happy. The

756
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>narcissists are going to be happy, your guests are going

757
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:06.719
<v Speaker 1>to be happy. You're going to be happy.

758
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Is the season. But don't drink it. Daffodils are toxic,

759
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:13.639
<v Speaker 2>you know. I remember when this just in case you

760
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>were trying to save a bug or two. I remember

761
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.480
<v Speaker 2>when this came out that you could use alcohol. Vodka

762
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.559
<v Speaker 2>was really what they said at the beginning to stunt

763
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.880
<v Speaker 2>as it were narcissus. So they don't flop. Both my

764
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 2>grandmas sent me newspaper clippings. I was in horticulture school

765
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 2>at the time. They both sent me a newspaper clipping

766
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 2>about it.

767
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:35.079
<v Speaker 1>There you go, so we have done that. But you

768
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.039
<v Speaker 1>don't have to go the alcohol route if you don't

769
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:41.119
<v Speaker 1>want to, because there's new varieties. I mean, these things

770
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>have been around for ages. There's a there's a story,

771
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>a legend of a Dutch merchant who gifted narcissus bulbs

772
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.119
<v Speaker 1>to the lady of Star Castle and she later discarded

773
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the bulbs, mistaking mistaking them for foul tasting onions. She

774
00:40:58.960 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>tried to eat it.

775
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:01.159
<v Speaker 2>That's not good.

776
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now along the lines of sense, I've got to

777
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 1>get this out because again we talked on the show

778
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>that I've been in the garden center industry for over

779
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:12.800
<v Speaker 1>forty years, and what do you think about when you

780
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>think holiday themed ambient scents. Do you enjoy them, do

781
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you use them? And what are your favorites and your

782
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:25.119
<v Speaker 1>least favorites. For example, a favorite of mine, like I mentioned,

783
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:29.360
<v Speaker 1>are fur trees or Douglas fur trees with that citrus scent.

784
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 1>I stick my face right in the needles and I

785
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:37.159
<v Speaker 1>love them. But I cannot handle these ponderosa pine cones

786
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that are super charged with a cinnamon scent.

787
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, they're putting cinnamon on everything, these cinnamon brooms, cinnamon, this,

788
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.639
<v Speaker 2>cinnamon that. And the thing is it doesn't smell like cinnamon.

789
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:50.840
<v Speaker 2>It smells like fake cinnamon.

790
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, that's part of it. And it hits you

791
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.800
<v Speaker 1>in the face so hard and for some people, you know,

792
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.400
<v Speaker 1>they get migraine headaches. It makes me think of Frank's

793
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Nursery and.

794
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Crash, Oh my gosh.

795
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were. They had like I think maybe three

796
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:09.119
<v Speaker 1>hundred stores in the United States.

797
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, that Franks always smells like fertilizer to me,

798
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 2>though not cinnamon.

799
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 1>You'd walk in the door and a Franks would smell

800
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:23.559
<v Speaker 1>like a mix of cinnamon, fertilizer, potting, soil, uh, eucalyptus, yeah, yeah, candles,

801
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the whole. Oh yeah, I mean, it was a may

802
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>it would hit you in the face when you walked

803
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 1>in the door. But anyhow, and you know, you talk

804
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>about the cinnamon thing and and talk about a hack

805
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>h They recommend that you take cinnamon sticks and throw

806
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 1>them in the box when you're packing away your Christmas

807
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>decorations so that when you pulled them out next year,

808
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:53.599
<v Speaker 1>your favorite Garlands, Reese other decorations already smell like the holidays.

809
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 2>It seems like you'd need an awful lot of cinnamon

810
00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:59.719
<v Speaker 2>sticks to make that effective, but you know, probably can't hurt.

811
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:04.440
<v Speaker 2>You could also put away your Christmas decorations with a

812
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 2>peppermint oil scented cotton ball, which is said to repel mice.

813
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Now that sounds better. I like that. Well, you can

814
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.800
<v Speaker 1>buy these little tea bags too that are peppermint oil

815
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and you use them for mice. And yes, you can

816
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>throw them in there, So that's probably a better way

817
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 1>to go. But yes, when you walk into the entry

818
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:29.079
<v Speaker 1>of a store and you get hit blamo lamo in

819
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the face with that smell of cinnamon ponderosa pine cones,

820
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:36.639
<v Speaker 1>I can do without that. One more thing here, have

821
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:40.119
<v Speaker 1>you ever tried romanesquo cauliflower.

822
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I've grown it, have you really? Yes. When I was

823
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 2>a very young gardener, I took one look at that

824
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.079
<v Speaker 2>thing in a seed catalog and I said, I have

825
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 2>got to grow this.

826
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:52.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling the same way and I've never grown Oh no.

827
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:54.880
<v Speaker 2>And I grew it well. I mean, considering that I

828
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.360
<v Speaker 2>barely knew anything at the time, I grew up pretty well.

829
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Because you know, a lot of times collifloor rockly it

830
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:02.920
<v Speaker 2>can be a little bit difficult to get the results

831
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.519
<v Speaker 2>that you are, you know, have in your head for yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but I found it was easier to grow and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so unique. It's one of the strangest looking

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<v Speaker 1>vegetables because of its fractal floor retes. It is fractal,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it owns it. It owes its unique shape

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the fact that it forms these failed flowers.

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<v Speaker 1>And my friends at Botanical Interest seeds, I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>they have them available and I wanted to grow it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily to eat it, even though it's very very

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<v Speaker 1>healthy for you, but just such unique shape and interest.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's something I'm going to add to

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<v Speaker 1>my ornamental plants in my God it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>geometric shape, just such a unique structure and almost sharp

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<v Speaker 1>troos and.

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<v Speaker 2>Color, yeah, beautiful shar t color. So if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with this, like I'm imagine a head of cauliflower

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<v Speaker 2>that's a beautiful shortrucy lime green, and each little cluster

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<v Speaker 2>of florets instead of just being like a round little globe,

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<v Speaker 2>someone took it and twisted it and pulled it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's kind of like this spinning fractal like

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<v Speaker 2>would look really cool under a black light kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it. So that's on my

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas list.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So you're what you're dropping a hint here

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<v Speaker 2>the way you looked at me, I was, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to use it, because of course you

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<v Speaker 2>will have to eventually cook with it, otherwise it all

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of get all stringy and give you more

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<v Speaker 2>romanesque seat if you want to continue growing it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you use it basically just like a cauliflower or broccoli

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<v Speaker 2>however you prefer. But yeah, very very pretty and not

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<v Speaker 2>to be confused with Romesco sauce, which is something totally different.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fact though, that you've grown this. This

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<v Speaker 1>is really cool because it's not something new. As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, I read first noted by Italians in

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<v Speaker 1>the sixteenth century. But now it's catching the eye of

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<v Speaker 1>gourmet chefs and they say that it has a delicious

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<v Speaker 1>nutty flavor and texture similar to culiflower.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very closely related.

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<v Speaker 1>So there we go, romanesquo culiflower. No, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to gift it to me. I'm going to order mine

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<v Speaker 1>from Botanical Interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Sees all right, sounds like a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy. Always a pleasure to do this show with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you so much, Adriana Robinson, and thanks

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