Speaker 1: Coming to you from Studio A here at Proven Winners
Speaker 1: Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified podcast,
Speaker 1: radio and YouTube show with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick Weist,
Speaker 1: and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, it's time
Speaker 1: to extend the season. We talked in previous weeks about
Speaker 1: how data shows that our growing seasons are getting longer. Well,
Speaker 1: you can enjoy the beauty longer with holiday clippings, and
Speaker 1: we're thankful for another great growing year, and we harvest
Speaker 1: the cuttings from the landscape to celebrate with bows and
Speaker 1: arrangements and entry porch pots and swags and wreaths and
Speaker 1: indoor arrangements. You can decorate on a budget use landscape clippings. Stacy,
Speaker 1: let's keep the party going.
Speaker 2: I agree completely. You know, everybody's running around at the
Speaker 2: store getting this, getting that. Need flowers, need points out,
Speaker 2: I need this. But really, even if you have, you know,
Speaker 2: a very modest kind of landscape or garden, I guarantee
Speaker 2: you there as so much potential sitting right there in
Speaker 2: your yard that you can use to make all of
Speaker 2: these things extra special, or to make them in the
Speaker 2: first place. You know, and It just takes little creativity
Speaker 2: and a little bit of looking at the plants around you,
Speaker 2: maybe with a different eye than you do in the
Speaker 2: spring or summer. But I think the most important thing
Speaker 2: that people need to know is that, yes, you can
Speaker 2: absolutely cut from this stuff within reason. You know, we're
Speaker 2: not talking about going out there and scalping your arbor idy,
Speaker 2: you know, to make a garland to go down your
Speaker 2: dramatic staircase. We're talking about a little bit of clippings
Speaker 2: here and there to just spruce up the holiday table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, or in my limb a rick today I
Speaker 1: will address possibly going over to the neighbor's house and
Speaker 1: taking a few clippings. But however you do it, Yes,
Speaker 1: holiday clippings to make things festive. I personally think holiday
Speaker 1: hanging baskets are lots of fun to make. I've made
Speaker 1: a lot of them over the course of my life.
Speaker 1: I love making holiday hanging baskets because they're almost like
Speaker 1: Christmas ornaments hanging there. And we have some pictures of
Speaker 1: some of my baskets for the website Gardening Simplified on
Speaker 1: air dot com. Of course, if you're watching on YouTube
Speaker 1: also you can see these baskets and Stacy. The great
Speaker 1: thing about these holiday baskets of clippings you don't have
Speaker 1: to water them.
Speaker 2: Oh you gotta love that. You definitely don't want to
Speaker 2: be watering anything in winter I slicks underneath. It's just
Speaker 2: a bad scene all around.
Speaker 1: So clippings from the landscape, everything from ornamental grasses to evergreens.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we'll show you a picture
Speaker 1: here too of a dark eyed junko that was on
Speaker 1: my miscanthus just picking away at the seeds this week.
Speaker 1: The wildlife love it, and of course we can create
Speaker 1: some really cool arrangements with it. Stacy rose hips and
Speaker 1: calikarpa buried stems. And then of course you know you
Speaker 1: got to go to holly holly, whether it's broad leaf
Speaker 1: evergreen holly or the deciduous.
Speaker 2: Holly as is depicted here in our arrangement in studio.
Speaker 2: If you are on YouTube, you will see that holly
Speaker 2: is a great choice. And you know that this winterbury
Speaker 2: holly I've talked about it in the past is so
Speaker 2: abundant throughout Michigan, just growing wild.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: No, granted, you can't go to someone else's property and
Speaker 2: just start cutting their winterbury holly like there's no tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But if you happen to be near some that you
Speaker 2: can cut, it's a great way to just have a
Speaker 2: little bit of color and wildness and all of that
Speaker 2: in your holiday table.
Speaker 1: Colors, amazing pine cones, of course, pine and fur. For me,
Speaker 1: Christmas is fur. The scent of fur. I just love it.
Speaker 1: And of course they have the thick and waxy needles,
Speaker 1: so they've got great needle retention too.
Speaker 2: So all those years in the garden center didn't ruin
Speaker 2: fur for you.
Speaker 1: Well, Ash, I'll tell you what ruined it for me,
Speaker 1: and we're going to cover that in Branching News. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what ruined it for me. The smell of
Speaker 1: cinnamon scented pine cone.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the worst. And why do the stores, thank you?
Speaker 2: And why do the stores always put them in like
Speaker 2: the foyer or like the you know, the opening to
Speaker 2: the store. So you're in that tiny, little, you know,
Speaker 2: condensed area. The heat's blasting because it's cold outside, and
Speaker 2: you just get like overwhelmed with this like fake cinnamon scent.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people walk out with a migraine.
Speaker 1: So we'll cover that in Branching News. But I'm so
Speaker 1: glad you feel that way, Stacy. Sassafras, red and gold
Speaker 1: twig dogwood. Of course, Stacy, you've talked on the show
Speaker 1: before about.
Speaker 2: Arctic fire, and yeah, I love Arctic fire. And you know,
Speaker 2: the red twig dogwood is another one that grows abundantly
Speaker 2: around just around Michigan. You can't hardly throw a stick
Speaker 2: without running into into one in a natural area. But
Speaker 2: I'm really glad that you mentioned the sassafras because I
Speaker 2: think we talked about this last year as well, and
Speaker 2: that has also been added to our arrangement in studio
Speaker 2: because of you, Rick. And it's not something I would
Speaker 2: normally think of including, but it looks so cool. The
Speaker 2: stems are kind of green, the buds are very very
Speaker 2: unique and noticeable, and you know that's something that like,
Speaker 2: you know, sassafras is almost is probably at least as
Speaker 2: ubiquitous as red twig dogwood, and a bit more ubiquitous
Speaker 2: than the winterbury holly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And there's so many things again, if you're
Speaker 1: just creative about it. You know, I mentioned the ornamental
Speaker 1: grass inflorescence and seedum's willow panicle, hydrangeous stems, boxwood, southern magnolia, cami, cypress,
Speaker 1: birch branches, you know, for outdoor arrangements, not indoors, but
Speaker 1: outdoor arrangements, Stacey, I even like to look for branches
Speaker 1: that are completely covered in lichens.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. Yeah, I would put those inside. Actually,
Speaker 2: would you like it? I do? I love it? I
Speaker 2: mean I wish it would last longer, but it's so pretty.
Speaker 2: And you named a lot of things like the panicle
Speaker 2: hydrangeas stems that are kind of brown. And if you
Speaker 2: feel like that is a bit too dismal for your
Speaker 2: holiday table, you know, you can always just use a
Speaker 2: little bit of spray paint. Sure, I'm not usually a
Speaker 2: big fan of gilding the lily when it comes to nature,
Speaker 2: as it were. But you know, this is the main
Speaker 2: thing I think is that all of these ideas are
Speaker 2: a great way to either keep your kids busy on
Speaker 2: a holiday when they're sitting around board, you can send
Speaker 2: them out into the backyard with some inspiration, or you know,
Speaker 2: just as a way for you to find some solace
Speaker 2: amid the hecticness of the holiday and to share your
Speaker 2: garden in a way that you don't usually.
Speaker 1: Get to exactly keep the season going for our friends
Speaker 1: in the South, Nandina is often used, and then stacy.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll see an arrangement sumac, but I don't recommend
Speaker 1: that because for a lot of people they can get
Speaker 1: a nasty rash from soup.
Speaker 2: Oh is that so? I didn't know that. But it
Speaker 2: is messy. It is at this time of year. Even
Speaker 2: if it still has some berries clinging to it, they
Speaker 2: kind of have those little hairs everywhere and that could
Speaker 2: be a little bit. No one needs a bigger mess
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving. We're not trying to make a bigger mess
Speaker 2: for you. We're trying to give you a little something
Speaker 2: to make the day more memorable. And again to bring
Speaker 2: the garden inside, because it is the end of the season.
Speaker 2: It's about harvest, and the harvest isn't just about food,
Speaker 2: it is about the garden as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Now, think about using anti dessicant sprays for
Speaker 1: your arrangements. It's basically pine resin. Don't use floor wax
Speaker 1: or hair spray like aquanette. I've seen people do it.
Speaker 1: I do wrack up.
Speaker 2: No, it would just get sticky right and and then
Speaker 2: like dust and stuff would stick to it.
Speaker 1: And don't do that. If you're cutting from your own landscape,
Speaker 1: be cautious not to cut too much. Like Stacy said,
Speaker 1: we're just taking some clippings and use some caution toosionally
Speaker 1: inspect your clippings because well, bugs can be over wintering
Speaker 1: and you bring them inside that that's going to really
Speaker 1: add to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be fun. The cattle go crazy, distract everybody
Speaker 2: from all the talk of politics at the holiday table.
Speaker 2: So maybe you do want to bring in the bugs.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Up to you.
Speaker 1: If you clip some evergreen branches, maybe put them in
Speaker 1: water before you use them in your arrangement. You want
Speaker 1: to try and keep them nice and hydrated. And along
Speaker 1: the lines of evergreen branches. I like using mixed evergreens.
Speaker 1: I think it really adds to both the aroma and
Speaker 1: the appearance. So if you're mixing spruce with douglas, fur
Speaker 1: with fur, with pine with juniper, I really think that
Speaker 1: that adds to the arrangements. Bearing in mind that shorter
Speaker 1: needled evergreens like hemlock or spruce tend to lose their
Speaker 1: needles a lot quicker than let's say, pine or fur.
Speaker 1: So let me give you my limerick here. And as
Speaker 1: I said in branching news. We're going to talk about aroma,
Speaker 1: including cinnamon pine cones. Uh, but let me give you
Speaker 1: a limerick about pruning your neighbor's plants. For one of
Speaker 1: these arrangements, I'm pruning well after midnight in my neighbor's
Speaker 1: yard with a flashlight. Despite the fact I am nervous,
Speaker 1: I consider my pruning a service and helpful, not impolite.
Speaker 1: Once my arrangements are built, before they begin to wilt,
Speaker 1: I'll bring my neighbor delicious treats, some delectable holiday eats
Speaker 1: to deal with my nagging guilt.
Speaker 2: That you were going a little bit for a grnch
Speaker 2: vibe there. I was starting to get a little bit worried.
Speaker 2: I didn't know where it was going.
Speaker 1: Actually, I would take care of my neighbor and bring
Speaker 1: some treats. But if they've got something good to clip
Speaker 1: in their landscape, I might just be tempted. But you'd ask,
Speaker 1: but I'd ask.
Speaker 2: And they would probably be like, oh, well, that's a
Speaker 2: good idea, now I want it now.
Speaker 1: There are a number of universities that University of Idaho
Speaker 1: is one that comes to mind where their landscape teams
Speaker 1: in November will spray trees on campus with a natural
Speaker 1: repellent of skunk scent and fox urine, as well as
Speaker 1: a sticking agent to protect them from theft and destruction
Speaker 1: during the holiday season.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's a big business. I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big clipping when you go over to
Speaker 1: an evergreen tree and take the top out of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so people are like stealing them for small like
Speaker 2: Christmas trees or that's horrendous.
Speaker 1: I know it is. It's terrible. So you know, you
Speaker 1: you bring something like that into the living room and
Speaker 1: it's you know, room temperature, that is going to smell very,
Speaker 1: very bad. Now, they do put up signage that warns
Speaker 1: people to try to deter thieves in the public from
Speaker 1: taking a major for green clipping, but just beware.
Speaker 2: Well that's good. I'm glad that they do that, because
Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to be like surprised the
Speaker 2: trees already damaged and now you have something horribly smelling
Speaker 2: in your possession that you've got to deal with, So
Speaker 2: better to just try to hopefully avoid the damage in
Speaker 2: the first place.
Speaker 1: You got it, You got it now. Of course, if
Speaker 1: you're planting up some clipping containers outdoors, follow the same
Speaker 1: approach that we've talked about. During the growing season and
Speaker 1: spring and summer, when planting up a planter, try to
Speaker 1: work from the center out to the outside, thinking Thriller, Filler, Spiller,
Speaker 1: and Stacey. That can just be so much fun, especially
Speaker 1: you know, you need the soil fod but then you're
Speaker 1: able to put the branches in and then if we
Speaker 1: get some hard freezes, the branches will just freeze in
Speaker 1: place and you're good to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, when I've done that in the past,
Speaker 2: I actually like to start putting down a sort of
Speaker 2: matte a carpet of something very softly pine, some pine boughs,
Speaker 2: so that the soil is completely covered, and then build
Speaker 2: the arrangement over that. You know, we should We're talking
Speaker 2: a lot about cutting this stuff from your garden, but
Speaker 2: if you don't have this stuff, or you don't want
Speaker 2: to cut from your garden, you can buy this in
Speaker 2: Flora's shops. It might take looking for someone who's a
Speaker 2: little bit more specialty, but they do sell these types
Speaker 2: of things so that you can do this without also
Speaker 2: cutting from your own If you are so inclined, it
Speaker 2: shouldn't stop you. If you don't have immediate access to
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, garden centers, greenhouses, floral shops, you're right, bundles of
Speaker 1: boughs and twigs. And of course while you're there too,
Speaker 1: you could pick up a package of some of these
Speaker 1: great led lights they have today that are very small,
Speaker 1: easy to work with, indestructible and they'll really light up
Speaker 1: your clipping display. Well, let's see how Stacey ties this
Speaker 1: all together. Coming up next in Plants on Trial. You're
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Speaker 2: where the order of the day is taking a little
Speaker 2: something from your garden to make the holidays a bit
Speaker 2: more special. And you know that could mean I think
Speaker 2: sprucing up a store bought arrangement, Like say you buy
Speaker 2: some nice yellow moms and you're just thinking, well, gee,
Speaker 2: those are pretty. The color works for me, but it
Speaker 2: feels kind of summary. You know, you can go and
Speaker 2: pick some pine boughs or something like that from the
Speaker 2: yard and mix it together and bring it up a
Speaker 2: little more up to season, that kind of thing. But
Speaker 2: before I get into today's plan on trial, I did
Speaker 2: want to thank you for bringing up the LED lights
Speaker 2: because it triggered a memory for me of when I
Speaker 2: was really little and we didn't usually put Christmas lights
Speaker 2: up or anything like that, but one year we did.
Speaker 2: And I was probably like four ish years old or
Speaker 2: something like that. And yeah, this would have been like
Speaker 2: the late seventies, so those winters were really cold, and
Speaker 2: I remember being out there super bundled up, like to
Speaker 2: the point where you're just like tottering around you can't
Speaker 2: even walk. And I believe my mom told me that
Speaker 2: the lights that my dad was putting up were from
Speaker 2: my grandparents, so they were like old lights hadn't really
Speaker 2: been put away, and they were the old kind, you know,
Speaker 2: not these new LEDs that are indestructible. Yeah, the big
Speaker 2: old bulbs, which look amazing have such a retro vibe now.
Speaker 2: But you know, it was dark, and my brother and
Speaker 2: I are out with my dad just you know, playing
Speaker 2: around and we are just stepping on these bulbs left
Speaker 2: and not on purpose. You know, we can't see anything,
Speaker 2: we don't know what we're doing, but we're kind of
Speaker 2: starting to realize that it's kind of cool to step
Speaker 2: on these and make that sound. And oh man, my
Speaker 2: dad was so mad. And I don't believe that we
Speaker 2: ever did put up the Christmas lights that year. But
Speaker 2: it's good to know now that the LEDs eliminate that
Speaker 2: whole thing from happening.
Speaker 1: You are not alone because again, working in the garden
Speaker 1: center industry, Stacey, we sold thousands and thousands and thousands
Speaker 1: of packages of replacement C nine and SEE seven lights.
Speaker 1: And the LED lights today today are incredible. When they
Speaker 1: first came out with them, they had all the warmth
Speaker 1: and romance of a hospital operating group.
Speaker 2: They're so bright and so blue, and now they're much better. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they've got the warm tones back in there. But you know,
Speaker 2: when you see one of those holenses with the old
Speaker 2: C seven bolved, it kind of gives you hits. You
Speaker 2: right in the fields.
Speaker 1: You got it.
Speaker 2: But anyway, back to decorating with plants and not lights.
Speaker 2: So I think that you know, too many people feel
Speaker 2: like they have to go big when it comes to
Speaker 2: bringing some of the garden indoors. You know, again, like
Speaker 2: we were talking about, you don't need to do a reef,
Speaker 2: you don't need to do a swag. You can do
Speaker 2: something really small. And I think one of the nicest
Speaker 2: things that you can do or do with your kids,
Speaker 2: or have kids do if you need to get them
Speaker 2: out of your hair on the holiday, is just send
Speaker 2: them out to the garden to get little place settings,
Speaker 2: and you know, have at each place, you know, the
Speaker 2: plate and on the napkin, just a little something from
Speaker 2: the garden. And I think that you know, one of
Speaker 2: the best bases if you are stuck for inspiration in
Speaker 2: doing this, one of the absolute best bass that you
Speaker 2: can use is arbor ding. Oh, I mean, arborvid is
Speaker 2: so ubiquitous. Now you might have to pull a rix
Speaker 2: limerick and get some from a neighbor if you don't
Speaker 2: have some. But you can find arborvity just about anywhere
Speaker 2: in such large quantities that you know, trimming some of
Speaker 2: those sprigs isn't really gonna matter. No one will even
Speaker 2: note that you're there. The foliage is soft, it's not prickly.
Speaker 2: I love the way that it kind of just naturally
Speaker 2: lays into a fan, so it just will sit very
Speaker 2: nicely on that napkin. And it smells amazing. I adore
Speaker 2: the smell of arborvidy foliage. It's just it's delicious. There's
Speaker 2: no other way to describe it, which is why. Of
Speaker 2: course it's also very popular with deer. But you know,
Speaker 2: in harbrovid alone might look a little bit lonely. So
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring in some other ideas. Now we
Speaker 2: talked about Winterbury holly. Great choice if you have it. Now,
Speaker 2: Winterbury holly is definitely one of those plants that you
Speaker 2: should not cut too much off of. It is one
Speaker 2: that is quite slow to recover. It's a slow growing shrub,
Speaker 2: so a spray couple sprigs here and there aren't a problem,
Speaker 2: but certainly not the kind of thing that you're gonna
Speaker 2: want to. You know, sheer down to do something major
Speaker 2: with red and yellow twig dogwoods like Arctic fire red
Speaker 2: and Arctic fire yellow. Those are all things that you
Speaker 2: might know. But I wanted to talk about something that
Speaker 2: you might not consider, and that is rose hips.
Speaker 1: A love it.
Speaker 2: You know, rose hips have been enjoyed for literally centuries
Speaker 2: as food as decoration in cosmetics, and they're still popular
Speaker 2: to this day, especially in the Eastern Europe for food.
Speaker 2: Like if you go to an Eastern European grocery store,
Speaker 2: you're gonna see rosep syrup, rose hips in syrup. They're
Speaker 2: going to find all of these different food supplies. But
Speaker 2: in the US it's you really know, they're going to
Speaker 2: see this in more specialty kind of stores. And I
Speaker 2: think most people, if you were to say rose hips,
Speaker 2: they would be like, roses have hips? What are you
Speaker 2: talking about? And I think a lot of that stems
Speaker 2: from the fact that, you know, in modern US history,
Speaker 2: the primary roses that people were growing were hybrid tea roses.
Speaker 2: So hybrid t roses to issues with them. Number one,
Speaker 2: the flowers tend to be double, so all of those
Speaker 2: reproductive organs that would normally become the hip or the
Speaker 2: fruit the berry of the rose are buried by petals
Speaker 2: and don't get pollinated, and so you never see any
Speaker 2: fruit develop. And overall, they're just not likely to set
Speaker 2: that fruit anyway, even if insects could access those parts.
Speaker 2: And also, hybrid t roses need dead heading if you
Speaker 2: want to have any kind of you know, reasonably good
Speaker 2: continuous display, you need to deadhead hybrid tea roses. So
Speaker 2: you know, I would say there was a good one
Speaker 2: hundred seventy five to one hundred year span of American
Speaker 2: garden history where people didn't even think for the most part,
Speaker 2: the exception of rogosa roses or what they call betroses,
Speaker 2: of roses having attractive fruit. Now that all changed with
Speaker 2: landscape roses. So when landscape roses, these disease resistant landscape
Speaker 2: roses like are So Easy series, which I know I
Speaker 2: still haven't told you the name of today's plant on trial.
Speaker 2: It is not a O So easy rose to stick
Speaker 2: with me. But when these kind of hit the scene,
Speaker 2: it changed all that. Because these were roses that tended
Speaker 2: to be single or semi double, so those reproductive organs
Speaker 2: were accessible to pollinators, they didn't need dead heading to
Speaker 2: bloom continuously, and just for whatever combination of genetics, they
Speaker 2: tended to actually set fruit like this. So these are
Speaker 2: some rose hips that are from an oh So easy rose,
Speaker 2: and you can see they're really quite nice. The rosehips
Speaker 2: can vary a lot from being a really cheerful, bright
Speaker 2: red to kind of more of an orange like this.
Speaker 2: So obviously the red ones are perfect for Christmas, and
Speaker 2: these more orangey ones are ideal for Thanksgiving. You can
Speaker 2: see they still have the klyx there where the flower
Speaker 2: was attached, so this is the fruit that is developed.
Speaker 2: They can be round, they can be oblong, they can
Speaker 2: be big, they can be small. These are probably about
Speaker 2: medium size. So there's just a huge diversity.
Speaker 1: And I love Rosa rigosa. You mentioned Rosa rigosa, and
Speaker 1: on the East Coast you'll see a number of them.
Speaker 1: I have pictures with a bright.
Speaker 2: Yellow ooh, that's pretty Yeah. I love the rose. Hips
Speaker 2: on Rosa rogosa don't have any It is considered the
Speaker 2: deer resistant rose. I would be hesitant to try that myself,
Speaker 2: knowing how my local deer are, but I do love
Speaker 2: Rosa rogosa. But the fact is that pretty much any
Speaker 2: of these newer roses that don't need deadheading are likely
Speaker 2: to set fruit like this, as is the case with
Speaker 2: today's plant on trial, Ringo double pink rose. Now, we
Speaker 2: featured a Ringo rose not all that long ago, back
Speaker 2: in I think it was in August, and we talked
Speaker 2: about these being a rose that's native to the Middle East,
Speaker 2: very very drought tolerant. And again I think because these
Speaker 2: whole temia roses are sort of closer to their wild ancestors,
Speaker 2: they are more likely to actually set fruit. So ringo
Speaker 2: double pink is one that sets fruit. They are on
Speaker 2: the larger side. There are really really nice orange So
Speaker 2: all summer long you're getting these beautiful double pink flowers.
Speaker 2: So it's semi double. I mean you can still see,
Speaker 2: you know, the organs in there so that the polliniers
Speaker 2: can access them with a bright red eye. That's where
Speaker 2: the ringo part comes from. And then you know, these
Speaker 2: beautiful pink petals and as they fade, it kind of
Speaker 2: turns more of a purple color. So you're getting a
Speaker 2: great display all summer. And then by the time that
Speaker 2: winds down, you know, come October or thereabouts, they're going
Speaker 2: to be leaving you these great hips to decorate with
Speaker 2: or just to enjoy. And of course bar and that
Speaker 2: if you never cut a single rose hip to enjoy indoors,
Speaker 2: the birds and squirrels and raccoons and possum and all
Speaker 2: of those will be very happy to eventually take them
Speaker 2: from you. They are one berrier that I have seen
Speaker 2: kind of tends to stick around until it softens quite
Speaker 2: a bet, which is nice from a gardening standpoint because
Speaker 2: you get to enjoy them before they get completely devoured.
Speaker 2: Now you might be thinking, well, this sounds kind of cool,
Speaker 2: but aren't those thorny? And the answer to that is
Speaker 2: it depends. So this one that I'm holding here from
Speaker 2: an oh so easy rose, some of the stems a
Speaker 2: little further down have some tiny, tiny thorns, but you
Speaker 2: can easily snap those off to go ahead, and you
Speaker 2: add them to your place settings. But by and large
Speaker 2: it's not hard to handle. There's just might be a
Speaker 2: couple of tiny thorns because overall on a rose, the
Speaker 2: thorns form further down on the thicker part of the shop,
Speaker 2: not on the skinny little pedicial up here that attaches
Speaker 2: the flower.
Speaker 1: But perfect for a place setting. And I love what
Speaker 1: you said at the outset that it doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be massive, you don't have to be hauling in big branches,
Speaker 1: and this is ideal for it. By the away high
Speaker 1: in vitamin C too. Oh yes, but you know, and
Speaker 1: if you think about it, the whole concept of cutting
Speaker 1: down an entire tree and dragging it into the house,
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of crazy. So this idea that yeah,
Speaker 1: place settings and that sort of thing using some rosen
Speaker 1: I love that idea.
Speaker 2: You're going to do it this Thanksgiving. I'm going to
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to do it too. So of course
Speaker 2: you can take a look at whatever roses are in
Speaker 2: your backyard and see if they have hips and consider
Speaker 2: using those in your holiday arrangements. But if you don't
Speaker 2: have one, do consider adding one of these roses to
Speaker 2: your planting list for next spring. Ringo double pink would
Speaker 2: be a great choice. You can see photos of it
Speaker 2: at Gardening Simplified on air dot com, or of course,
Speaker 2: join us on YouTube and decide if you're going to
Speaker 2: add it to your garden or not. I hope you will.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a little break and when we
Speaker 2: come back, we're going to be opening up the garden
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Speaker 2: gardening friends and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show,
Speaker 2: where we are at the point of the show where
Speaker 2: we answer your gardening questions. And even though it's November
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of what people think of
Speaker 2: doing in the garden is winding down, I think they
Speaker 2: sell have questions. You may, in fact have questions about
Speaker 2: whether you can cut stuff from the garden for Thanksgiving,
Speaker 2: which we probably won't be able to answer, but you
Speaker 2: can ask it on YouTube as a comment anyway, and
Speaker 2: if we can get back to you in time, we
Speaker 2: certainly will. But otherwise, think about what you can do
Speaker 2: in your backyard, take a walk around, get those ideas cooking,
Speaker 2: and if you do have any questions about that or
Speaker 2: anything else, you can always reach us at help HLP
Speaker 2: at Gardening Simplified on air dot com, or just visit
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Speaker 2: form there, very handy you can fill and your information.
Speaker 2: You can even attach a photo, which we do recommend
Speaker 2: if you're wondering about something that's going wrong or off
Speaker 2: the rails, because it's very hard to diagnose without a photo.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they used to do it.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, But I have a lot
Speaker 1: of questions year round.
Speaker 2: I do well, I have yes, I have a lot
Speaker 2: of questions and at all gardening really, And that's why
Speaker 2: I so often tell our listeners when in doubt, don't,
Speaker 2: because when you are sitting around with those questions, you know,
Speaker 2: and you don't know what to do, and you feel
Speaker 2: like you have to do something when in doubt, don't.
Speaker 2: So what do we got in the mailbag this week?
Speaker 1: Well, here's a note from and I believe, and forgive
Speaker 1: me if I get it wrong. Okay, it's either Gosia
Speaker 1: or Gassia.
Speaker 2: I would say Goosha, but for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go with Ghosha. I'm going to go with
Speaker 1: Stacy's inclination here, So Goosher writes to us. This year,
Speaker 1: we had a cicada invasion in Chicago Land and my
Speaker 1: limelight hydranges especially, and a lot of bushes have lengthwise
Speaker 1: cuts into the branches from them laying eggs. Ouch. Can
Speaker 1: I trim now my hydranges? And is that better for
Speaker 1: them to be trimmed now? I'm afraid the moisture going
Speaker 1: in through the cuts may kill the plants. I have
Speaker 1: over one hundred proven winners panicle hydranges.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: That's fabulous.
Speaker 2: That is a lot, and it must be amazing to see.
Speaker 2: So unfortunately, Gojha did not include a photo of the
Speaker 2: one hundred proven winners panicle hydrange as. We'd love to
Speaker 2: see that, but she did include a photo of the
Speaker 2: cicada damage. And I thought this was a really interesting
Speaker 2: question because I have to tell you, I if I
Speaker 2: had seen this on a plant, cicadas would not have
Speaker 2: been my first thought. No, And I guess I'm just
Speaker 2: not familiar with it. And you know, I know we've
Speaker 2: had some like huge hatches of big broods of cicadas recently,
Speaker 2: so it would not have been my first thought. I
Speaker 2: would have thought it was just kind of regular damage.
Speaker 2: So I'm really glad that Goosha made this connection and
Speaker 2: is bringing it to people's attention. So please do be
Speaker 2: sure to check us out on YouTube to see a
Speaker 2: picture of what this looks like, or of course we'll
Speaker 2: put it at show notes at Gardening Simplified on air
Speaker 2: dot com so you can see it. And it looks
Speaker 2: just kind of like a regular standard plant injury, you know,
Speaker 2: like they cut the cicada's cut a little slit into
Speaker 2: the bark and lay their eggs, and then that bark
Speaker 2: just kind of heals over it, so it makes that
Speaker 2: kind of like a hot dog bun shape around where
Speaker 2: the cicada did that. Now, I would not recommend doing
Speaker 2: anything at all to this. Now, well, okay, actually, let
Speaker 2: me back up. You don't need to worry Gaosha or
Speaker 2: anyone else about disease or dryness or anything entering that wound.
Speaker 2: That is not really going to be an issue for
Speaker 2: the plant. You know, plants get damaged all the time,
Speaker 2: and if it was really very easy for disease or
Speaker 2: other things to take hold, we'd have a lot more
Speaker 2: dead plants on our than we do. So I wouldn't
Speaker 2: do it out of those concerns. However, you know, it
Speaker 2: is important to know that if you knowing that you
Speaker 2: had a big emergence of cicadas in the Chicago area
Speaker 2: last year, and knowing that that means that they laid
Speaker 2: quite a lot of eggs in your one hundred proven
Speaker 2: winters panicle hydrangeas, it might be wise to reduce those
Speaker 2: numbers by pruning out these egg laying sites if it's possible.
Speaker 2: If it's possible, now I don't think that you should
Speaker 2: go crazy and take out any thick branches that are
Speaker 2: going to like dramatically disfigure your plants. But as you
Speaker 2: can see in Goja's photo, cutting this out is a
Speaker 2: small branch, and you know, especially as part of your
Speaker 2: regular spring pruning with your panicle hydrangeas, wouldn't even really
Speaker 2: go notice a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's two factors that play here. Number one,
Speaker 1: the cicada in the invasion is cyclical. In other words,
Speaker 1: it's this is going to pass. As far as panicle
Speaker 1: hydranges are concerned, Stacey, they respond really well to pruning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, they They are very amenable to pruning. They
Speaker 2: will basically be unfazed. And you know, you can actually
Speaker 2: even prune a panicle hydrangel quite hard if you did
Speaker 2: need to take out one of those major branches. But
Speaker 2: you know, the branches that I'm seeing this on are
Speaker 2: pretty small, pretty minor. And this is you know, obviously,
Speaker 2: the panicle hydranges are not particularly susceptible to cicada damage.
Speaker 2: This is just the one that Gosha is using as
Speaker 2: an example. But they can lay their eggs on anything, tree, shrub,
Speaker 2: any plant. They don't really have any particular preference for this.
Speaker 2: But that said, we're talking about pruning panicle hydrangees, whereas
Speaker 2: some plants, some shrubs, you know, if you were to
Speaker 2: prune them very hard, they can really struggle to revive
Speaker 2: from that. Like we were talking about with the winterbury, Hellie,
Speaker 2: that's not a plant that I would recommend very hard
Speaker 2: pruning on.
Speaker 1: But I think, gosh, it's fantastic that you've got one
Speaker 1: hundred of these panicle hydranges. And I'm crazy about panico
Speaker 1: hydrangees too, Stacy. I just think for the general homeowner,
Speaker 1: what a fabulous plant.
Speaker 2: It gives a lot and asks a little exactly so
Speaker 2: exactly hard to beat that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Gene writes to us high Stacy and
Speaker 1: Rick a garden in Illinois, Zone six B. I recently
Speaker 1: noticed a maple tree we planted probably ten years ago,
Speaker 1: is losing its bark. The bark is simply sliding off
Speaker 1: the tree. I wonder if it was struck by lightning.
Speaker 1: What do you think and will it survive? I look
Speaker 1: forward to your show every week. Appreciate all the great
Speaker 1: garden advice and your sense of humor. I have planted
Speaker 1: several plants due to your great advice. Yesterday I planted
Speaker 1: in El Nino desert rose chapulta. Why do I want
Speaker 1: to always say chapulta, you're hungry.
Speaker 2: I'm hungry.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to smell it next summer. Blam o, thank
Speaker 1: you both, very mulch.
Speaker 2: Well, great shall as you have no doubt heard. I
Speaker 2: have huge enthusiasm for this plant. It is such a
Speaker 2: beautiful fragrance. And mine was actually blooming. Here we are
Speaker 2: in late November. Mine was actually blooming up until about
Speaker 2: two weeks ago. So tons of interest on there. But
Speaker 2: let's talk about your maple, because this is disturbing this.
Speaker 2: I mean, if this is happening to my maple, I
Speaker 2: would not be happy.
Speaker 1: Well, let me mention that trees, especially if you're into timber,
Speaker 1: I like to go to lumber mills, okay, and kind
Speaker 1: of nose around and look for lumber.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know, It's just something I enjoy doing. I
Speaker 1: went with a friend. And if you're into timber, then
Speaker 1: you're really into the quality of the wood, okay. And
Speaker 1: people should be aware. I would recommend that you google this.
Speaker 1: Look up the fact that trees get the shakes. They
Speaker 1: get the shakes. Now we've talked about Southwest disease. Before
Speaker 1: frost cracks. It's when the sun shines on the tree,
Speaker 1: on the bark of the tree, it gets very very cold.
Speaker 1: That expansion, that contraction causes not only splitting, but in
Speaker 1: some cases also for bark to fall off. So shakes
Speaker 1: in your timber, and there are all different types. There's
Speaker 1: cup shakes. I didn't say cupcakes, I said cup shakes,
Speaker 1: heart shakes, star shakes, ring shakes, and radial shakes. Wow,
Speaker 1: all different types. And I won't get into it right now,
Speaker 1: but look it up sometime. It's fascinating people that you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, you cut a board, you're going to use
Speaker 1: it for furniture. You want the quality to be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: And so this wood is the structure of it can
Speaker 1: change based on temperature, based on sunlight. And I really
Speaker 1: think that that's what causes the bark to fall off
Speaker 1: some trees. And it's not going to kill the tree,
Speaker 1: but it's just active.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, So for those of you who are wondering,
Speaker 2: Gene did send a photo and of course that will
Speaker 2: be on YouTube as well as on the show. Notes.
Speaker 2: And this is not a situation where like some of
Speaker 2: the bark is peeling like a river birch or something
Speaker 2: like that. I mean, the entire bark has come off
Speaker 2: this tree. Uh, and yeah, that is disturbing. Now. I
Speaker 2: do have to say, from my limited experience with things
Speaker 2: like this, I specifically deliberately girdled a Norway maple in
Speaker 2: my yard because I wanted a dead tree. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: did this about two years ago.
Speaker 1: I've done that. I don't feel so bad.
Speaker 2: Why would you feel bad?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Dead trees are very useful as well. I mean, probably
Speaker 2: more useful than a living Norway maple unless you really
Speaker 2: need the shade. But it was not a fan of Norway. Okay,
Speaker 2: well then not cool. That's not cool. Your neighbors are
Speaker 2: probably like, listening to the showguing Ricks seems like such
Speaker 2: a nice guy. What are we doing. We're getting to
Speaker 2: get one of those ring cameras and watch up for you.
Speaker 2: They're afraid you're telling on yourself. But so so we
Speaker 2: girdled it deliberately because we wanted a dead tree. Because again,
Speaker 2: dead trees are you know. I love to garden for birds.
Speaker 2: Dead trees are very very important to bird and insects
Speaker 2: and lots of other creatures that I want in the garden,
Speaker 2: and so it was just an oroy maple. I'm not
Speaker 2: a huge fan, not a really great plant for other
Speaker 2: you know, things that I want a tree for. So
Speaker 2: when we girdled it, we just used a razor blade
Speaker 2: to cut a bank slit all around the base. And
Speaker 2: what happened is a lot of moisture got up under
Speaker 2: there and something very similar happened. So it makes sense
Speaker 2: that this would potentially be due to frost cracking. But
Speaker 2: this I would think is severe enough that the plant
Speaker 2: is not going to survive. I mean, basically she has
Speaker 2: lost an entire half of the tree in bark. And
Speaker 2: as we talked about a few weeks ago, you know,
Speaker 2: if the flow of nutrients from the base of the
Speaker 2: tree the roots to the top is disrupted in any
Speaker 2: substantial way, then that part of the tree will die.
Speaker 2: So you might end up with half a living tree,
Speaker 2: which you probably will want to take down because that
Speaker 2: could become unsafe. So don't know exactly why this happened, Gene.
Speaker 2: It's hard to say without you know, talking to you
Speaker 2: and knowing more about what the situation are is. But
Speaker 2: I would say from what I'm seeing and what I
Speaker 2: have experienced, it is unlikely to survive, so you might
Speaker 2: think about bringing in arborist in and maybe making some firewood.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time for
Speaker 1: branching news and Stacy. I thought that I would talk
Speaker 1: about some aromas today we enter the holiday season. I
Speaker 1: want to ask you a question. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about paper white narcissus? Do you like the aroma?
Speaker 2: I cannot abide by the smell of paper whites. I
Speaker 2: love them. I do like the plants a lot. I
Speaker 2: think they're beautiful, but oh the smell just makes me nauseous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the same way. Israel is the world's largest
Speaker 1: producer of paper white bulbs, and breeders are currently working
Speaker 1: on new varieties with lower levels of indole, also shorter,
Speaker 1: non floppy paper white varieties. There's a variety called near
Speaker 1: Nire that is shorter, squattier, and doesn't flop like a
Speaker 1: typical paper white narcissus would, which is fantastic, but for
Speaker 1: a lot of people, that sweet fragrance is just too
Speaker 1: strong or overpowering. Now, if you're gonna get some paper
Speaker 1: white narcissus, find out what variety you're getting. It makes
Speaker 1: a difference. The most fragrant is a variety called ZeVA
Speaker 1: Ziva if you like the aroma. But there are some
Speaker 1: varieties that are far less fragrant. There's in Ball and
Speaker 1: there's also winter Sun. Because paper white fragrance is described
Speaker 1: as being indolic, which is pretty unhelpful if you don't
Speaker 1: work in the perfume world. But that translates as having
Speaker 1: an over ripe character. That's the description thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I could see that. It smells to
Speaker 2: me kind of like, I don't know. It's hard to
Speaker 2: it is hard to describe, hard.
Speaker 1: To describe exactly, and so they they describe it as indole.
Speaker 1: So that's spelled I N D O l E. It's
Speaker 1: a sweetness that can both repel and attract us at
Speaker 1: the same time. So think paper white and narcissius. Think jasmine,
Speaker 1: think gardenias.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that thing, Think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And so it's it's complicated. Think ornamental pair blocks.
Speaker 2: Don't love that.
Speaker 1: Now, not just white for paper whites. Also, there is
Speaker 1: a daffodil, a grand soul hedor it's a daffodil heirloom variety.
Speaker 1: It dates back to seventeen seventy and you'll get a
Speaker 1: lot of orange and yellow flowers on it. But that
Speaker 1: one's really going to have a lot of fragrance to it. Also,
Speaker 1: now a suggestion for you again, I'm recommending you see
Speaker 1: what type of variety you're getting. Because we've often talked
Speaker 1: on the show about it being the golden age of
Speaker 1: plant breeding, and paper white narcissusts are no different. So
Speaker 1: they're developing these paper white narcissusts that do not have
Speaker 1: such a strong smell and are shorter and squattier, so
Speaker 1: when you plant them in the water and the pebbles
Speaker 1: in a dish, they don't get tall to the point
Speaker 1: where they fall over. That said, if you have some
Speaker 1: of the older varieties of paper white narcissus. This is
Speaker 1: what I do, and this is what I recommend an
Speaker 1: adult beverage for your paper white. Now, I'm sure this
Speaker 1: whole thing started at a holiday party, but I have
Speaker 1: done this. You begin with a dilute solution of four
Speaker 1: to six inch four to six percent of alcohol when
Speaker 1: the shoots are about one to two inches above the bolt,
Speaker 1: and don't use beer or wine. There's too much sugar
Speaker 1: in it, so you've got to use alcohol. You can
Speaker 1: use rubbing alcohol, but otherwise distilled spirits like gin, vodka, whiskey, rum,
Speaker 1: even tequila are all fine. So that's interesting. To determine
Speaker 1: the correct dilute solution, you take the percentage of alcohol
Speaker 1: on the label and you divide by five. So if
Speaker 1: you have a bottle of gin that says forty percent alcohol,
Speaker 1: forty divided by five is eight. So I need an
Speaker 1: eightfold dilution to yield five percent alcohol. So we're going
Speaker 1: to do seven parts water, one part gin for your
Speaker 1: paper white Narses, and everybody's going to be happy. The
Speaker 1: narcissists are going to be happy, your guests are going
Speaker 1: to be happy. You're going to be happy.
Speaker 2: Is the season. But don't drink it. Daffodils are toxic,
Speaker 2: you know. I remember when this just in case you
Speaker 2: were trying to save a bug or two. I remember
Speaker 2: when this came out that you could use alcohol. Vodka
Speaker 2: was really what they said at the beginning to stunt
Speaker 2: as it were narcissus. So they don't flop. Both my
Speaker 2: grandmas sent me newspaper clippings. I was in horticulture school
Speaker 2: at the time. They both sent me a newspaper clipping
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: There you go, so we have done that. But you
Speaker 1: don't have to go the alcohol route if you don't
Speaker 1: want to, because there's new varieties. I mean, these things
Speaker 1: have been around for ages. There's a there's a story,
Speaker 1: a legend of a Dutch merchant who gifted narcissus bulbs
Speaker 1: to the lady of Star Castle and she later discarded
Speaker 1: the bulbs, mistaking mistaking them for foul tasting onions. She
Speaker 1: tried to eat it.
Speaker 2: That's not good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now along the lines of sense, I've got to
Speaker 1: get this out because again we talked on the show
Speaker 1: that I've been in the garden center industry for over
Speaker 1: forty years, and what do you think about when you
Speaker 1: think holiday themed ambient scents. Do you enjoy them, do
Speaker 1: you use them? And what are your favorites and your
Speaker 1: least favorites. For example, a favorite of mine, like I mentioned,
Speaker 1: are fur trees or Douglas fur trees with that citrus scent.
Speaker 1: I stick my face right in the needles and I
Speaker 1: love them. But I cannot handle these ponderosa pine cones
Speaker 1: that are super charged with a cinnamon scent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they're putting cinnamon on everything, these cinnamon brooms, cinnamon, this,
Speaker 2: cinnamon that. And the thing is it doesn't smell like cinnamon.
Speaker 2: It smells like fake cinnamon.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, that's part of it. And it hits you
Speaker 1: in the face so hard and for some people, you know,
Speaker 1: they get migraine headaches. It makes me think of Frank's
Speaker 1: Nursery and.
Speaker 2: Crash, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were. They had like I think maybe three
Speaker 1: hundred stores in the United States.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, that Franks always smells like fertilizer to me,
Speaker 2: though not cinnamon.
Speaker 1: You'd walk in the door and a Franks would smell
Speaker 1: like a mix of cinnamon, fertilizer, potting, soil, uh, eucalyptus, yeah, yeah, candles,
Speaker 1: the whole. Oh yeah, I mean, it was a may
Speaker 1: it would hit you in the face when you walked
Speaker 1: in the door. But anyhow, and you know, you talk
Speaker 1: about the cinnamon thing and and talk about a hack
Speaker 1: h They recommend that you take cinnamon sticks and throw
Speaker 1: them in the box when you're packing away your Christmas
Speaker 1: decorations so that when you pulled them out next year,
Speaker 1: your favorite Garlands, Reese other decorations already smell like the holidays.
Speaker 2: It seems like you'd need an awful lot of cinnamon
Speaker 2: sticks to make that effective, but you know, probably can't hurt.
Speaker 2: You could also put away your Christmas decorations with a
Speaker 2: peppermint oil scented cotton ball, which is said to repel mice.
Speaker 1: Now that sounds better. I like that. Well, you can
Speaker 1: buy these little tea bags too that are peppermint oil
Speaker 1: and you use them for mice. And yes, you can
Speaker 1: throw them in there, So that's probably a better way
Speaker 1: to go. But yes, when you walk into the entry
Speaker 1: of a store and you get hit blamo lamo in
Speaker 1: the face with that smell of cinnamon ponderosa pine cones,
Speaker 1: I can do without that. One more thing here, have
Speaker 1: you ever tried romanesquo cauliflower.
Speaker 2: I've grown it, have you really? Yes. When I was
Speaker 2: a very young gardener, I took one look at that
Speaker 2: thing in a seed catalog and I said, I have
Speaker 2: got to grow this.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling the same way and I've never grown Oh no.
Speaker 2: And I grew it well. I mean, considering that I
Speaker 2: barely knew anything at the time, I grew up pretty well.
Speaker 2: Because you know, a lot of times collifloor rockly it
Speaker 2: can be a little bit difficult to get the results
Speaker 2: that you are, you know, have in your head for yes,
Speaker 2: but I found it was easier to grow and yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so unique. It's one of the strangest looking
Speaker 1: vegetables because of its fractal floor retes. It is fractal,
Speaker 1: and so it owns it. It owes its unique shape
Speaker 1: to the to the fact that it forms these failed flowers.
Speaker 1: And my friends at Botanical Interest seeds, I saw that
Speaker 1: they have them available and I wanted to grow it.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily to eat it, even though it's very very
Speaker 1: healthy for you, but just such unique shape and interest.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's something I'm going to add to
Speaker 1: my ornamental plants in my God it's kind of a
Speaker 1: geometric shape, just such a unique structure and almost sharp
Speaker 1: troos and.
Speaker 2: Color, yeah, beautiful shar t color. So if you're not
Speaker 2: familiar with this, like I'm imagine a head of cauliflower
Speaker 2: that's a beautiful shortrucy lime green, and each little cluster
Speaker 2: of florets instead of just being like a round little globe,
Speaker 2: someone took it and twisted it and pulled it up,
Speaker 2: and so it's kind of like this spinning fractal like
Speaker 2: would look really cool under a black light kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. So that's on my
Speaker 1: Christmas list.
Speaker 2: All right, So you're what you're dropping a hint here
Speaker 2: the way you looked at me, I was, And you know,
Speaker 2: if you want to use it, because of course you
Speaker 2: will have to eventually cook with it, otherwise it all
Speaker 2: just kind of get all stringy and give you more
Speaker 2: romanesque seat if you want to continue growing it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you use it basically just like a cauliflower or broccoli
Speaker 2: however you prefer. But yeah, very very pretty and not
Speaker 2: to be confused with Romesco sauce, which is something totally different.
Speaker 1: I love the fact though, that you've grown this. This
Speaker 1: is really cool because it's not something new. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I read first noted by Italians in
Speaker 1: the sixteenth century. But now it's catching the eye of
Speaker 1: gourmet chefs and they say that it has a delicious
Speaker 1: nutty flavor and texture similar to culiflower.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very closely related.
Speaker 1: So there we go, romanesquo culiflower. No, you don't have
Speaker 1: to gift it to me. I'm going to order mine
Speaker 1: from Botanical Interest.
Speaker 2: Sees all right, sounds like a plan.
Speaker 1: Stacy. Always a pleasure to do this show with you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much, Adriana Robinson, and thanks
Speaker 1: to you for watching on YouTube, listening on radio, or
Speaker 1: listening to our podcast, The Gardening Simplified Ship.