WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:06.320 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:10.679 Thank you very much, Dan Watkins. Well, as I think 3 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:13.119 all of us know, last week, we did touch upon 4 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:19.320 this ongoing battle with the family members of the Market 5 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:23.079 Basket ownership team, and I was delighted today to read 6 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:26.039 a piece in the Boston Globe d one of the 7 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:29.280 Business section. Was page one of the Business section and 8 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:33.079 tid to move over Kendall Roy. I'm not a big 9 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:37.560 succession fan, but the article bought basically draw us the 10 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.200 real life drama, draw us a connection between the real 11 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:43.840 life drama of the Market Basket. Boardroom is a real 12 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:47.600 life succession in the mind of Camillo Fonseca, who wrote 13 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:51.560 the piece for Treadlines. It's a fun read and it 14 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:55.079 does provide me a lot of insight into what is 15 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.759 going on with Market Basket. So let me first of all, 16 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:01.479 welcome Camilla fan sake, Yeah, Covintle, thanks for joining us tonight. 17 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:02.200 I appreciate it. 18 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:05.280 Thanks for having me. Dan, I'm glad to be here. 19 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:08.680 Well, I'll tell you I'm not a succession guy, but 20 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:12.000 you now have intrigued me to probably watch a little 21 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.519 bit of this HBO presentation. I know it's been around 22 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:19.280 for a while. Tell us about the analogies here. I mean, 23 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:24.319 this is a sort of the shifting into mural alliances 24 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:31.799 within the Demoulis family, people switching sides back and forth, 25 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:35.000 and at this point RDT, who was the hero of 26 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:40.319 Market basketback in twenty fourteen, now finds himself on the 27 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:44.359 outside looking in. Give us your sense of it as 28 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:47.760 you as you I'm sure have talked to some of 29 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:49.760 the folks that are involved, love to get your take 30 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:50.079 on it. 31 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:53.719 Yeah, absolutely. I mean the first thing when we were 32 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.400 in the office and these headlines started started coming out, 33 00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:59.519 everybody was like, oh my gosh, this is just like 34 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:03.680 an appias of Succession, Because you're right, the sort of 35 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:09.520 shifting family loyalties have really sort of crystallized the struggle, 36 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:13.039 you know, for the past several decades, but especially you 37 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:18.039 know the news that broke last week. So for those 38 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:21.080 who haven't watched Succession, so much of it is based 39 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:26.039 around this family sort of Rupert Murdoch esque that run 40 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:30.599 this media company, which is obviously a very different business 41 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:33.879 than running a local New England supermarket chain, but the 42 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:36.360 way that it portrays, you know, all these siblings and 43 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:40.280 how they form alliances and then they're backstabbing each other. 44 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:43.039 It makes for a lot of good drama and it 45 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.199 really is in some ways very similar to what we're 46 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:52.000 seeing with Market Basket, because when RDT de Mulas was 47 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.759 placed on paid leave last week, it was at the 48 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:59.280 instigation of his three sisters, the same three sisters that 49 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:04.000 he had allied with in twenty fourteen, back when the 50 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.199 walkouts were all happening. So these were this is the 51 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.960 same side of the family that came together to buy 52 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:14.000 out the other, the arthur S side of the family 53 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:17.159 back in twenty fourteen with all the customer boycotts and 54 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:22.039 the walkout, and for the past ten years, eleven years, 55 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:24.199 you know, they were supposedly on the same side of 56 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:26.840 the coin. But I you know, we can see now 57 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:28.360 that that can change very quickly. 58 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:34.240 Well, you know, you have this this situation here. Most 59 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:39.120 families in New England are anywhere, I guess, have their 60 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:44.280 own little struggles, their personal struggles. Someone doesn't like Uncle Harry, 61 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:48.080 someone doesn't like cousin Marie or whatever, all of that 62 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:51.599 sort of stuff. But the stakes are higher in a 63 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:56.120 demulis case or in a case of succession. And yet 64 00:03:56.520 --> 00:04:02.439 in the case of Demulis or the Dmula's family and 65 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.599 market basket, it affects a heck of a lot more 66 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:09.439 people than just the immediate family. It affects everybody who 67 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.439 who's a customer there, who shops there. We all not 68 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:19.240 only get pulled into the h into the controversy, but 69 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:23.079 we all, I think, inherently kind of pick what side 70 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:26.240 we're on, who we're rooting for. I'm rooting for RDT. 71 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:29.879 I can't tell you why, but I'm rooting for RDT 72 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.519 because I remember ten years ago, eleven years ago, he 73 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:36.759 seemed to be the guy who was the good guy. 74 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:41.560 And he has not fundamentally changed the store at all. 75 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.560 It's still the same market basket. That is I think, 76 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:49.279 you know, customer friendly prices are pretty much better, in 77 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:52.199 my opinion, across the board the quality of the of 78 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:56.399 the products. So you know, that's where I'm coming from. 79 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.399 I don't have a dog in the fight of succession, 80 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.120 but I we have a dog in the fight. Did 81 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:04.519 the market ban? Could people talk to you much about 82 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:09.160 in anticipation of this? So they're not the most communicative 83 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:12.199 people in the world, as I understand that with the outside. 84 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:15.399 Media, they didn't, so they didn't talk to me for 85 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:19.319 this particular article. You know, they have talked about, you know, 86 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:24.600 the reasons that they put RDT on paid leave, and 87 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:31.399 it was because essentially, you know, from what we can assume, 88 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:32.959 a lot of it has to do with the same 89 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.319 stuff that he was fighting for in twenty fourteen, which 90 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:41.160 was you know, the levels of employee compensation or employee 91 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:45.879 benefits and the shopping experience. I would say that that 92 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.040 is probably less of a concern in the board's eyes 93 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:51.560 because they're saying that a lot of it has to 94 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:56.120 do with how ARDT is running the company, as in 95 00:05:56.199 --> 00:06:00.000 he's not you know, supposedly he's not taking advice from 96 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.519 the board, he's not letting them in on key decisions 97 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:06.120 and capital expenditures. So it really, you know, depends on 98 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:09.839 who you want to believe, I guess, but I mean, 99 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:12.600 another thing you said is one hundred percent right, is 100 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:17.040 that you know, people still have such a strong affection 101 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:21.759 and respect for RDT even after you know, eleven years 102 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:26.920 after the walkouts that that saw him buy out the 103 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.199 rest of the company with his sisters. You know, he's 104 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.079 still a household name in many parts of New England, 105 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:35.839 in Massachusetts, So it remains to be seen. 106 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:39.360 He's kind of a kind of a folk. 107 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:45.000 People have like T shirts with his with his faith 108 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:49.040 on them, and like like market basket logos that are 109 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:52.160 are with the market basket named out and the mulus 110 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:55.319 on them. You know, it's it's something that people really 111 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:57.480 care about, and certainly that affects a lot of people, 112 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:01.279 not just shoppers, but but the employees as well. So 113 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:02.240 you're absolutely right. 114 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:06.879 Did you develop a sense and again, I know you're 115 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:10.160 a columnist here, but you're also sometimes in a role 116 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:12.959 as a reporter. Did you get a sense as to 117 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.639 how long you think this struggle is going, how long 118 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:19.879 it's going to last, or how it might conclude. Did 119 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:22.279 you get any sense of that or or. 120 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:26.040 I mean, it's really it's really tough to say. I mean, 121 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:28.399 if you remember back in twenty fourteen, I think that 122 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:32.439 was you know, several weeks if not months that that 123 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:36.839 those walkouts and stuff dragged out. And you know, at 124 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:40.199 this point we're not seeing any like you know, massive 125 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:44.399 walkouts or customer boycotts so far, but you know, if 126 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.480 that changes, it really is is hard to say. The 127 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:51.639 board has said that they are they are doing an 128 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:56.720 investigation into whether Arthur T. De Mulis was planning on 129 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:58.920 leading a walkout. I think that was part of the 130 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.360 reason that they gave for placing him on paid leave, 131 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:06.040 because they wanted to have this investigation. And then you 132 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:09.319 have people in Rdt's camp that are saying that that 133 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.480 is you know, that's complete blowney. You know, so it's 134 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:17.839 who you believe, and it really is hard to say. 135 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:20.399 I have no idea. I wish I did, but I 136 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.680 think it doesn't bring a lot of comfort to shoppers. 137 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:23.160 I'm sure. 138 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:27.040 I just highly commend this article today in the in 139 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:30.319 the Boston Globe. People can get it online. Move over, 140 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:34.960 Kendall Roy and the subhead is if the market basket 141 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:38.799 boardroom battle is a real life Succession saga, complete with 142 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:42.360 family drama and dysfunction, A lot of alliteration from those 143 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.240 sub headline writers. I don't know if they still have 144 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.240 subheadline writers at the Globe, but I. 145 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.840 Can't take credit for that. But yet, Yeah, they did 146 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.039 a great job with that one. 147 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:57.639 It caught my eye, I gotta tell you, and I 148 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:00.919 I really enjoyed it, and I do appreciate Camelo kind 149 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.240 of coming on and just talking about it because it 150 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.360 gives me a launch pad here for this next next hour. 151 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:08.639 So I thank you for joining us, and I'm going 152 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:10.879 to be following you a little bit more closely. And 153 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:15.399 I did reach out to our mutual friend h and 154 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:18.039 left her a message, and I hope she's listening great, 155 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:23.840 and I was able to leave her a voicemail. Okay, Dan, 156 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:27.039 thanks you Bell Ill appreciate it so much. We'll talk again. Okay, 157 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:31.000 thanks very much. I enjoyed that conversation. I hope you 158 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:33.399 did as well. Now the conversation I'm really looking forward 159 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:40.919 to is yours. This story is just percolating below the headlines. Uh, 160 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:45.200 And I got to tell you that there will be 161 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:47.919 a conclusion to this story. I don't know what it is, 162 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:51.639 the conclusion that I'm concerned about, and I'm not necessarily 163 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.519 rooting for one individual or the other. But the one 164 00:09:54.519 --> 00:10:00.720 individual that I am familiar with, obviously is Arthur T. 165 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:06.279 I think he's run market Basket remarkably well and one 166 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.639 of the things that I want to see. As an 167 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:11.600 occasional shopper, I have to get to Wall Fame. That's 168 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:15.759 my nearest market Basket, and I get there a couple 169 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:19.840 of times a month, so I'm not the backbone shopper 170 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:22.200 that maybe some of you are. But one of the 171 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:27.840 things that makes market Basket attractive to me prices. The 172 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.840 aisles laid out a lot more comfortably than some of 173 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:37.039 the other stores. It's easy to maneuver. The people are helpful. 174 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:40.639 The employees are helpful. Many of them are first generation, 175 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.919 but they are great people. They never look at you 176 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:48.399 like you have two heads. If they don't understand what 177 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.399 you're saying, they will find and another associate to always 178 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:55.200 try to get your questions answered. And the thing that 179 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:58.720 is most attractive to me about market Basket is that 180 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:02.000 when you do check out, you're checking out in a 181 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:05.159 checkout line with a cashier and in most cases a 182 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:08.000 bagger as well. Although I like to bag my own groceries, 183 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:13.080 I have never seen in a market Basket store a 184 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:18.480 self checkout, automatic, kiosk or whatever you want to call them. 185 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.600 It's as simple as that, because when I go to 186 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.039 the store, I want to feel that I got everything 187 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:25.240 I needed at a decent price, and that's what market 188 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:28.080 basket is all about. So I want to find out 189 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.559 who are you rooting for? Because I don't know what 190 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.039 plans the other folks might have for market Basket, But 191 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:39.799 I'm pretty confident that Arthur t RDT will probably keep 192 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:42.360 it just the way it is and it will continue 193 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:45.840 to be a store that I find to be very 194 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.799 comfortable when I go there. Six one seven, two, five 195 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:51.960 four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. 196 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.960 We will talk about this only only until ten o'clock, 197 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:59.600 because at ten o'clock I am committed to talking about 198 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.919 the incident in the attack, I'm not going to call 199 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:06.960 it an incident, the attack in Boulder, Colorado on Sunday 200 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.759 six one seven, two five four ten thirty six one 201 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.360 seven nine three one ten thirty. This is personal to me. 202 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:15.279 I hope it's personal to you, and I hope you 203 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.799 enjoined the conversation. Only lines still open right now. Six 204 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:21.159 one seven nine three one ten thirty. 205 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:27.039 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 206 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:32.559 So let's let's talk about market Basket, and uh, I know, 207 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:37.080 I know what I'm concerned about. I've seen too many 208 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:43.519 traditional stores change and all of a sudden, there are 209 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:49.399 fewer and fewer customer service lines, more and more automatic 210 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:53.200 checkout machines, which I think is a mistake for the stores, 211 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:56.120 because I think a lot of people can be tempted 212 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:58.559 about I'm going to ring this up. Maybe I won't 213 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:00.759 ring that up. Let's get back to the phones. Let's 214 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.399 go to David in Pennsylvania. Dave, do you have market 215 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:04.759 basket down in Pennsylvania? 216 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:08.440 I know, but I'll tell you a story again. I 217 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.200 used to cut me to the original Ta Demolis back 218 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:14.080 in the late nineteen eighties, around eighty eight, eighty nine, 219 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.120 when the family was still fighting. Yeah, I mean the 220 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:21.519 old man Ta Demolis, very nice guy. The first school 221 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:23.639 was in Lowell, of course, you know the Merrimack Valley 222 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:28.000 area and what do you call it. I used to 223 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.679 know the Suns and I always used to work for 224 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:38.759 Anthony Athenis too, we know the Athenis family. Great man 225 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:42.200 but a great guy. Yeah, absolutely, And the same thing 226 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:44.200 with mister Demolis. So I think they might have known 227 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.320 each other to who knows, you know, in the business cycle. 228 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:49.360 But they were very all, very nice to work for it. And 229 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:52.000 we don't have market baskets. Say we got something called 230 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.039 giant eagles. I don't know if you heard a giant 231 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:57.679 eagle kind of like you're stopping shop back there? 232 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:02.519 Yeah, well again stop stop and shop has got bigger 233 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:04.879 they've gone through. It's no longer owned I think by 234 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:09.799 the original family. And you know, whenever these you know, 235 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:14.720 big institutions like a stop and shopper Market Basket passed on, 236 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.840 things change, and I think that they tend not to 237 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:21.480 change for the better. What got you down to Pennsylvania 238 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:23.559 if you were working up here for demoulis you you 239 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:24.000 were in a the. 240 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.360 I mean I've called you. I've called you before, Dan, 241 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.639 I'm originally from Salem Man. I'm as Salem kid. I 242 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.720 called you before, and you were you had Scott Lehigh 243 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:35.600 on a couple of times, not called I Me and 244 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.840 him got close on Facebook, and I know he's writing 245 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:40.120 a new book, so he's going to send me a copy. 246 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.519 But he's a great guy. But uh no, I married 247 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.080 my golf or sweetheart. So that's what I'm doing out here. 248 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:50.600 Okay, all right, So if you don't really have a 249 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.960 dog in the fight, but uh, I think I think 250 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:58.399 Market Baskets the best grocery store. I used to be 251 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:02.320 Roach Brothers, and I like Roach Brothers, but Roach and 252 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.720 Roach Brothers is really a good quality store. Uh And 253 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:08.440 I mean that a great quality store. The fruits and 254 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:12.200 vegetables there, but Market Baskets right in the same category, 255 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:16.120 and and again you're in, you're out. They have enough 256 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:20.159 people there, they haven't They have enough, right, I mean 257 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:23.559 they have like like twenty checkout lines. Yeah, other stories 258 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:26.240 have like three checkout lines, and other people are trying 259 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:28.559 to figure out how to work these kiosks, which is 260 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:29.879 just a waste. 261 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.200 Of people's Yeah, it's kind of a pain in the neck. 262 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.399 We got that, like I said about our saying here 263 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:37.120 in Pittsburgh, Giant Eagle, they're a little more they're a 264 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:39.279 little higher priced, still like a stopping truck. I mean, 265 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:41.480 we have all these around here. I know you've heard 266 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:44.039 of them, all these around the country. But uh, I 267 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:46.440 missed Market Basket. I missed the and they were very 268 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:49.600 customer friendly. I always enjoyed working for him. I worked 269 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:51.840 in the Davis store a few times, and then a 270 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:54.440 few other stores throughout and that even the one in 271 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:56.919 Salem House for a while years and years ago. But 272 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:00.240 they I really missed mister t. Demulas. She was he 273 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:01.279 was an old school guy. 274 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:02.279 A very just minute. 275 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.000 I just got a question for you, since you probably 276 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.399 know more of the history of it. When did the 277 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:09.919 they now have I think it's about ninety stores or 278 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:14.720 some big number. When did they really start to expand 279 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:15.639 and spread out. 280 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:19.320 I think I mean, like maybe in the early nineties 281 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:21.519 into the mid nineties, because I was still living in 282 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.879 Massachusetts after I got out of the Marine Corps, and 283 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:27.600 I know, I shot back at the original ones where 284 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:29.440 I used to work, and I still let friends working 285 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:31.919 there in baggers, and you could have a nice career 286 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:33.679 and I could basket if you worked there for a 287 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:34.240 long time. 288 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.240 In there a lot of people, a lot of people. 289 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:38.759 They treat their employees very well for a long time. 290 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:43.159 They used to shop at a market basket in Ashland, Massachusetts. Uh, 291 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:49.240 and okay, it wasn't great, and there was another store nearby, 292 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:52.159 was a Roach Brothers, and I became a Roach Brothers fan. 293 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:55.720 But now when I found this market Basket in Waltham, 294 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:57.480 it's right on one twenty eight, so it's not that 295 00:16:57.960 --> 00:16:58.720 hard to get to. 296 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:00.399 And I'm familiar with the Yep. 297 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:02.840 Yeah, it's ten miles from where I live. But it's 298 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.720 well worth. It's well worth the drive. The savings more 299 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.279 than eats up the gas money. That's that's involved great 300 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:13.119 right here. Thank you so much, thank. 301 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:13.960 You, Thank you God. 302 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:15.000 Bless you have a good night. 303 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:17.400 Thanks for being such a loyal listener down there in 304 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:18.440 Pennsylvania for us. 305 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:19.559 I PREI you welcome, sir. 306 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.519 All right, thanks Dave, keep in touch, God bless all right, 307 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:24.559 good night. Right back at you. We'll take a break. 308 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:27.880 One line there at six one seven. Well that's just filled. Now. 309 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.319 If you're dialing here getting a busy single, here's here's 310 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.319 the here it is. I got two lines at six 311 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.880 one seven nine three one ten thirty, six one seven, 312 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.559 nine three one ten thirty. Don't go busy. Dial six 313 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:40.759 one seven nine three one ten thirty and we'll get 314 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:42.799 you on. Coming back on night Side. 315 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:47.400 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w B Boston's 316 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:48.480 news radio. 317 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:51.240 All right, we're getting back to the phone calls. Here 318 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:53.640 six one seven. The only line is six one seven 319 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:57.200 nine three one ten thirty. We are talking about the fight, 320 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:01.400 the Demulis family fight, because it's more than just a 321 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:05.799 family fight. It affects you and me if we're customers. 322 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:09.759 We're not a member of the family, but it affects 323 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:13.079 all of us as potential customers. Let's go next to 324 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:16.279 Mary in andover. I'll bet you Mary is a customer 325 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:18.279 of Demola's Hi, Mary, how are you tonight. 326 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.160 I'm good. I'm good. I'm just you know what they're doing, 327 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.799 come road work in the endover and I just go 328 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:27.440 I'm taking the turn. 329 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:32.000 Now, okay, take your time. 330 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:33.119 Oh that lane? 331 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:34.839 Yeah, okay, I'm going in the wrong lane. 332 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.119 Tell him you're in the radio. Mary, tell him you're 333 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:37.680 in the radio. 334 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:43.720 I'm on the radio, buddy, Hey, I'm going in reverse. 335 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:46.880 Tell him Dan tell him. Dan Ray said hi to 336 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:47.839 all the road crew. 337 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:50.240 Okay, great. 338 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:54.200 Dan Ray says, hello, he didn't hear me. 339 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:57.119 I don't think that's okay. It's the thought that counts. 340 00:18:57.279 --> 00:18:58.799 Are you safe and sound now married? 341 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:02.119 Dan Ray says, hello, thank you for your job. Thank you, 342 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:04.799 thank you. Oh my goodness, thank you. 343 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:05.440 That's good. 344 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:05.960 Thank you? 345 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:09.039 Say about that. I called in because I have to 346 00:19:09.079 --> 00:19:13.759 tell you I was shocked and totally disappointed when I 347 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:17.400 heard that any member of Artie Teen's family, because I 348 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:20.319 know all three of his sisters, would bring any kind 349 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:23.519 of a claim against him. He poured his heart and 350 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:27.079 soul into that business, and anybody who knows that family 351 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:30.839 knows that his son. I was in the store up 352 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:33.759 in and I haven't seen Arty in years, Okay, I 353 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:36.440 went to high school with him and said, I did 354 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:41.519 my brothers and sister. But I haven't seen Arty in years. 355 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:43.400 But I saw a young man and I went up 356 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:45.200 to him and I said to him, I said, I 357 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:47.720 know I've never met you, but I want to tell 358 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:51.759 you I knew your father in high school. And in fact, 359 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:54.640 my brother and your father were on the front page 360 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:58.680 of the Laurence Eagle Tribute with my brother blocking him 361 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:01.640 for a when he would have had the ball and 362 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:05.200 was running to make a touchdown in a football game 363 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:08.319 at they had over high. Okay, And I have to 364 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:11.799 tell you, but Bertie Demolis as a heart of gold, 365 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.599 as did both of his parents. And I can tell 366 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:18.079 you that because my father was in a horrible accident 367 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:22.680 and some terrible things happened in our family and his family. 368 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:25.880 His parents. I don't even know that to this day, 369 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:28.640 he even knows it. But they came to our house 370 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:33.200 to offer to my mother anything she needed. They didn't 371 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:34.279 know us from any. 372 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:35.839 I mean, my father died. 373 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:41.960 Wow, my you know, my junior year in high school 374 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:46.000 and Arty was a senior and his parents, his parents 375 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:48.559 came to the house and offered to help in any 376 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:50.920 way they could to my offered it to my mother. 377 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:54.440 You know. Fortunately my mother was a very stupid person. 378 00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:57.960 This was my father and they had made plans as 379 00:20:58.000 --> 00:20:58.480 they should. 380 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:01.720 But anyway, well that's a great story. It shows that 381 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:04.519 shows the quality, it shows the quality of the man Mary, 382 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:05.160 that's for sure. 383 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:06.720 Well. 384 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:09.599 And and to his family too. I mean, I have 385 00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:11.759 to say, I don't want to say a bad word 386 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:14.680 about his sisters because I think they were all nice 387 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.319 people and two of them married guys who went to 388 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:22.480 high school with all of us, you know, And I'm 389 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:27.160 just really sorry it's happening. I am praying that they 390 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:31.359 that they will come to a resolution swiftly and amicably, 391 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:36.039 and I hope they can bridge this this terrible devind. 392 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:38.000 Well, I hope that they. I hope that they keep 393 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:41.400 Market Basket the great, the great facility that it is. 394 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:43.640 It serves a lot of people. I think they have 395 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:47.240 somewhere around ninety sores. And when you multiply ninety stories 396 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:51.160 by the number of people who are served by that company, uh, 397 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:53.599 they provide they provide a lifeline for a lot of 398 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.839 families here in New England. So thank you, thanks, thanks 399 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:01.359 thanks for to thank you for calling, and also thank 400 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:04.720 you for maneuvering there and and not only multitasking that 401 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:08.799