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Speaker 5: There are one thousand UFO sightings reported around the world

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every month. Ninety percent of these sightings can be explained,

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but ten percent cannot. Officially and unofficially. The US military

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has been investigating the UFOs since nineteen forty seven. Your

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top secret goal is to mind out what's behind these

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unexplained sightings. The Pentagon classifies them as unusual airborne anomalies,

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but a better term is X files. Join us now

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as Mac one one and Commander Cobra explore these unsolved

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cases UFO incidents that baffle even the US military. This

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is Mac Maloney's Military X Files, and now here's Mac maloney.

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Speaker 4: Good evening one. Welcome to Macloney's militrek'saw show here in

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the Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is Mac Maloney. What

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a show we have for you tonight. Wow. First, let

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me introduce you to the members of the Platy Girls.

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You can feel his vibe across the punnel, so it's

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time to get your big box of climates, your big

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box of wipes, sit yourself down, stop fanning yourself and

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also have you squeeze and your loom close by because

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you see you the very famous one one money.

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Speaker 6: Hello Mac, Hello, girls, welcome to the show. I hope

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you can feel of my vibe. It's been kind of

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foggy around here and jolly old England today, but you know,

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just looked out the window a minute ago and it's

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all of a sudden they cleared up. That's what happens

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with really a weird climate. Have They call it a

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micro climate heavily influenced by the Isle of Wight, which

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is like, you know, Stone's throw away.

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Speaker 4: Why don't they just blow that up and get rid

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of it?

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Speaker 6: And I know it, but it's it's a big jurist attraction,

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so they like it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, everything else okay over there with you.

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Speaker 6: Everything everything else is okay. We don't have COVID, we

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don't have any good, any diseases.

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Speaker 4: Nice of you to bring that up. I saw the

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other day, and I don't know whether we've talked about

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this on the show, but you went down some rabbit

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hole and they're talking about the the three kids, the Cayton. Yeah,

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Prince William's, uh, how much they're worth, the three kids,

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three of them, Okay for some reason. Well I guess

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the oldest son gets a little bit more. But just

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averaging out, there were three billion dollars each those kids.

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That's what will be in their piggy bank when they

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get to the point where they could spend it, you know,

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just for being a member of the just for being

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a member of the world. That's all it takes. I

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didn't know it was that much. I didn't either, you know,

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because it seems like they're always running out of money,

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but apparently they won't anyway, Thank you. One one of

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the junis all.

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Speaker 6: Welcome, my pleasure, also happy to be.

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Speaker 4: Here also with us, And we were going to do

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that poetry out later one one, but we swelched that, okay,

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we erased it also with us, is uh our international

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correspond No, yeah, international correspondent down there in my sister's

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tank taboo in Virginia. Switchblade, Steve Wood switch.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be here tonight.

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Speaker 4: Okay, everything okay with.

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Speaker 1: You, Everything is beyond wonderful.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So I know that because he sends me, because

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it's Tuesday, he sends me a picture of his breakfast.

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Let me paint the picture for a second. Okay. First

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of all, that a huge platter with at least eight

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to ten strips of bacon, and he's going to say no.

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had like a lobster or something on his plate. It's

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just all this stuff, right, you know, home fries, eggs,

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stuff like that. But the piece de resise Stods was

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in the corner is a super bowl full of the

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gravy and you could see where he dumped it and

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it's still you know, flawing off the end and stuff

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like that. Great, he didn't use a spoon. And I

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eat that in about five minutes. It was just that

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sounds like a good breath. Yeah, it's really diamond nice.

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the hot the hot break of breakfast or something.

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Speaker 1: That that was the super breakfast?

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Speaker 1: I was pretty hungry. I didn't I didn't actually I

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ate breakfast at noon, so I got you know, it

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had had whole fries and uh gravy and a biscuit

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entire biscuit, huge huge strips of bacon.

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Speaker 4: How many?

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Speaker 1: And a couple?

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Speaker 4: Just a few I got?

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Speaker 1: A couple of eggs over easy? Wow?

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Speaker 4: Just a couple Okay, Yeah, that's good. That's good. As

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as we're doing this, I'm going to find the evidence and.

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Speaker 1: I ate it, you know, very slowly. I was reading,

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you know, I mean just took my time.

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Speaker 4: So you read when you go there, you read when

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you're when you're reading.

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Speaker 1: I was reading about the Moray Island incident.

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Speaker 4: All right, and I just passed the picture to a

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that's a lot of bag, that's a lot of bacon, man,

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it's like a half a freaking pig.

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Speaker 8: For god, they're not just it's that they're not that

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they're long, but they're why.

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Speaker 4: That's what she said, Give me that.

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Speaker 8: That's a that's the breakfast fit for a king.

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Speaker 4: Breakfast and champions.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, I don't usually only order one pancake, but yesterday

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and the other one it just about overlapped my plate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, cool, very cool. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't couldn't quite consume all that.

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Speaker 4: But there's a place up here I gonna one woman

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probably you know, the stage coaches across from the dairy

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Queen and Salisbury there and you go in there and

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a lot of two pancakes and they literally the size

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of you know, like a small table. The woman like, good, like.

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Speaker 6: You want fruit on it? Ye, put me your room

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for fruit. I like to add a little bit of

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whipped cream, whipped cream on pancakes, whipped cream, strawberries or blueberries.

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the pakes. Then I had strawberries on top of it,

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on top of the blueberry, and a bunch.

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Speaker 4: Of whipped cream.

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Speaker 6: That's how I got him at Farmer's kitchen all the time.

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it too. I think I sent you somehow kitchen meals.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, Okay, somebody a fan just sent me a

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picture of Switchy in front of an enom hole. What

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is that? Switch That's not the healthy breakfast? Whoa what

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is it? It's a whole peg worth of bacon and

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two week dom with pancakes. Thank you, switch You know

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me and my saltines will thank you about morning believing.

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Uh anyway, speaking of junk food, No, not really. Is

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our international security chief Willie Club Willy.

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Speaker 9: Hey Mac everyone, it's good to be here to night.

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Speaker 4: What's going on? This exciting? Yeah, it's get that Patriot's flag?

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Well you had that Patriot's flag loaded up with you.

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Didn't think you'd bringing out the first week though, did you?

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I'd bring everything out the first week. Wow,

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but no, it's uh, this is it when we win,

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when we went over here, it's a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well yeah, like the old day these days, yeh, yep, yeah,

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that's all right.

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Speaker 9: I wanted to just tell you before you asked. Good

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this morning for my breakfast, I had corn pops with

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a banana milk.

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Speaker 4: One percent milk. Okay, all right, that's good. That's his dad.

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Speaker 6: Bananas, yellow round things.

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Speaker 9: Right, yeah, you should be called sugar pops, right, That

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got a bad name with sugar, so there's still sugar,

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but instead they call them corn.

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Speaker 4: Pops a little more healthy. Yea sounds a little healthier, right,

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Speaker 9: That's why I bought them con pop, man, I haven't

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by them since they don't have sugar anymore.

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Speaker 4: I haven't a con Wasn't that sugar bear? That would

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he was crisp, Sugar crisp, Sugar sugar crisp. They changed

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it to honey crisp.

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Speaker 1: What actor was that?

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Speaker 4: Uh, James Old Jones. That's too soon.

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Speaker 1: You'll come in.

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Speaker 9: And it was before my times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, was just barely before you. Thank you club

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for drums. You'll find see. I'm being good. Everyone turn

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over a newly. Yes I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not used to it. I'm not used to you.

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Speaker 9: Get you killing me, but I'm doing.

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Speaker 4: It okay anyway, that devious laugh, you just hear it

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is in the studio in the house. It's you a

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full mechanic slash King of the b slash get away

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driver all right now though, Oh oh man, hello everybody.

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Oh what's happening? You know, just cleaning up the house

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in the yard for Plumfest plumpfesst this weekend? Is that

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this weekend? Yes, it is Saturday. Yep. People who will

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live in Arizona, here 's talk about this and they go,

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what the hell you idiots talking about? I just you know,

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it's a lot of fun. It's like a kind of

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drunken day out.

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Speaker 8: And it's what they take over the whole island. Fifty

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bands actually, I saw the the map the thing today online.

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One hundred bands at fifty different homes on the island.

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One hundred bands, two at each house. And it runs

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from noon to six o'clock. And they have shuttle buses.

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out to the island on shuttle buses. And it's just

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a crazy it's like a block park party times.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, six miles long. You have six mile

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block party. People are just begging, begging to rent golf cots,

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this particular day. In fact, I looked into it and

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but there's no place at Rent's golf cots anywhere in Massachusetts.

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But there were people online saying, you know, you can

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rent a golf cout because that's the perfect way to

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do this, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: Right, except any motor vehicle. I mean, if you're not

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you can't drive down the main streets because there's so

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many people. So even a golf cot, you're going to

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be pushing people out of the way.

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Speaker 4: But I'm saying that you don't have to walk, that's all.

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I'm right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I told that, Joe. Yeah,

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not a joke. The other day, we're in the you know,

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we're in the freaking bus and two years ago everyone

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is bombed. Everyone is inside and outside everyone clabb it

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and we're in the bus because I can't, you know,

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we can't really walk anymore. And I look out on

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the sideway there's a guy that crutches and he's beating

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serious couldn't move, you know, And and it's like you

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can't drive a car down there's people and everybody got

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those coolers that have the handles and wheels and the

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cops don't you know, there's non existent and.

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Speaker 8: People are drinking and carrying on and I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: But it's cool. It's it's it's I've never seen any trouble.

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There's no trouble. Everyone is cool. It's a lot of

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Speaker 8: Couple of charities that are involved, and I think the

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taxpayers haul gets involved. But the thing about it free. Yeah,

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it's free to you know, to come out and do it.

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my house, garage, everything, and like I'm actually making deals

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with neighbors to park cars because I can probably holds

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six or eight cars in my yard and Mac can

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probably four five, six in his yard. But we're expecting

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more than that. So I've got neighbors. I can shove

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three cars over there, two cars over.

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Speaker 9: It's going to be doing that as a good citizen

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of you all to screw people.

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Speaker 4: And I'm doing it for my friends. I'm doing it

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for the people I'm expecting down you know and.

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Speaker 6: Real like the family's done in Foxboro one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, you got that right now. They're charging money.

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Speaker 8: I told I told my wife, I said, look, I'm

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going to take your car and put it in one

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of the neighbors driveways. And she's like, why am I

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leaving my garage space? I said, is it's going to

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be people hanging out in the garage.

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Speaker 4: Get your car out of here, right, Yeah, so good

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for you. She's not happy. But anyway, so thanks Alf

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for being very quick news for last year.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Sugar Bear was actually connected to Sugar Chris.

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Speaker 4: That's what I what did? I just said, let's go

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Speaker 1: Like Robert Mitchell.

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Speaker 4: Well when when Mitch was down on his luck. Maybe

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sang the songs on the Grinch, Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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he's a very famous voice. It was, uh right, who

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did the The actual voice of the Grinch was Horror

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Star Vincent Price was the Price a Vincent Price, Christopher Lee,

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Crystal Lee, maybe there you go.

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Speaker 8: And everybody thought he sang the songs, but he didn't.

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that pitch meeting. You know, we have a cot own

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is based on Doctor Seuss. We need a we need

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a villain's voice, and they get Boris Kaala.

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Speaker 4: Perfect. Wow, and he did it. He did it? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Well, anyway, I wonder what they got paid

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for that stuff back then. Nothing ancient times.

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Speaker 4: There's no if it's before when was Mash on early seventies.

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they had residual agreements because then they figured, hey, we

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could rerun these things and make zillions of dollars. Anyway,

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talking about hmmm, making zillions of dollars, making zillions of

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people smile with us as super fan Susan Kaye, super fan,

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Susan kay How are you, Susan.

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Speaker 10: Hi?

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Speaker 11: Everybody, I'm doing okay, thank you so much for having

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Speaker 4: Wow, that smoky voice there, I like it. Well, you go.

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I do like it.

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Speaker 6: What's what's singling up and down my spine? Already have

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medication for that?

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Speaker 10: Now, do you have your credit card? Handy?

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Speaker 4: I could wow here, I knew that voice sounded familiar.

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How much is at a minute?

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Speaker 6: It's okay, I only need a minute and a half anyway.

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Speaker 4: So you're recovering, Susan. You're recovering from that. We don't

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have to mention the disease, but you're recovering from uh

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some sick time.

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Speaker 10: I am, yes, I'm trying to recover. It's slowly, but surely.

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Speaker 4: Well the voice is uh super duper. That's just my opinion,

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you know, but I wish I could keep it. We

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like it anyway. So I've introduced everyone, right, I know

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Raven tonight she has a chiropractice a chiropractice appointment that

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she says I need it really bad. I don't know

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what that means, right, I mean they really I don't understand.

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I never Okay, So you know we could do now

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Lonely Larry was supposed to be on, but he's having

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connection problems. So why don't we do this? Why don't

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we take a quick break? Now, we'll see if we

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can send some smoke signals to him in the month

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and we'll be right back after this. You're listening to

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maclony's Milk Trek Saw show here on the Distant Thunder

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Video Network. Please stay tuned.

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Speaker 5: Hawk Hunter, the Wingman, has finally rid the world of

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its worst ever super villain, Victor Robotov. But in mac

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maloney's latest book, War of Dragons, we learned the maniacal

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terrorist ghost Steel Hans Our battered devastated planet. In War

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of Dragons Book twenty two. In Mac's best selling Wingman series,

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Hawk and his United American allies uncover Victor's bizarre plot

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from beyond the Grave.

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Speaker 4: The super terrorist.

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Speaker 5: Hit six nuclear bombs around the Mediterranean before he died,

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knowing their detonation will empty out the Great Sea and

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cause a worldwide catastrophe. Guarding these weapons of mass destruction,

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He's left behind a family ferocious air dragons eternal Aero

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sentinels that will stop at nothing to protect their late

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master's unthinkable secrets. Sailing aboard their gigantic aircraft carrier, the

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uss USA, Hawk and the United Americans must battle their

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way across the Mediterranean, slaying these dragons in hopes of

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beating Victor's allies to the nuke's secret locations before time

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runs out. If not, then the world will face a

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very nasty, very watery armageddon. Its Game of Thrones meets

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mech Maloney, on sale now on Amazon.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back. Everyone's mac Maloney's mill Track's on a show

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here in the distance Thunder Radio Network. This is mac

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maloney with a show we have for you tonight. Wow.

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Let me very quickly introduce you to the members of

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the Plus Girls. You see the very famous one one

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across the pub. Hell Mac Hell.

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Speaker 6: Everybody, welcome to the show. Happy to be here. Okay,

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it's a lovely day here, and it's lovely in the

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studio too. It looks like down there and it's very

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awesome here in the UK. Awesome in the UK, Awesome

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awesome in the UK. Good name for CD. Also with

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us as our international correspondent. Switch played Steve Ward down

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there in My Sisters, I mean my sister's kink West

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Virginia switching.

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Speaker 1: Don't you dare talk about my sister's brother. Great, great

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to be here.

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Speaker 4: There's another joke in this somewhere. Also with us, it's

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our international security chief Willie Club.

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Speaker 9: Hi mac hi everyone. Yeah, I have to agree. It's

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great to be here.

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Speaker 4: Waving the patroes.

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Speaker 9: What's going on? And I'm going on to be able

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to do the show in between that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes. Also with us is King of the Bees,

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al Ronaldo. Okay, King, how you doing. I'm doing great? Okay,

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you know, I'm.

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Speaker 8: Watching the bees work and I walked by the hives

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and I could smell the other day, I could smell

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I got into the golden rod because when bees get

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in the golden rod and they're processing stuff to make

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the honey. Yes, the hives have an odor that is unmistakable, really,

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and you.

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Speaker 4: Walk back and you go, whoa, what's going on? Yeah? Really? Yeah,

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it almost smells like dirty socks. Did they Oh that's wonderful.

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Did they get high in on it or anything?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 8: But you know, it's funny because when they while they're

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processing it, it really doesn't smell good. And a lot

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of people who keep bees, like for the first year

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or so, if the bees get into this, they go, wow,

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there's something wrong this, well, yeah, something wrong in that

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high guy, it doesn't smell good. The honey though, well,

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once it cures, you would never know. But the honey

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is very dark. Yes, it's like the spring honey, being

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very very pale and light. This stuff is almost like

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motor oil. Yeah nice, but it's and we are surrounded

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by so much golden rod around the basin and around

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in the marshy areas.

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Speaker 4: Can you use it as motoroil? I've never tried it,

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but you never know. Anyway, I just had to put

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a remember eating.

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Speaker 6: Your honey when I was living in that area, Yeah, yeah,

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eating your honey. I had very few instances incidences of

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hay fever, sneezing.

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Speaker 4: You know, here's a lot of those things. That's what

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they claim local. You know, like where you are.

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Speaker 8: Now, if you ate local honey to you, it would

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do the same thing because it's it's from where you

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are and you know, within ten miles or so. But

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it's you know, like I said, if you don't realize

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what's going on in the high when you walk by it,

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because if the breeze is just coming right, well, it

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hits you in the face and you're like whoa. It's

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almost like having pot plants on your deck.

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Speaker 4: And all of a sudden you're like, oh, we take

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Speaker 8: Oh well, because it's a smell that man. You know,

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when you walk by it, you get it and you're

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like wow. You drive by a growth facility in Massachusetts

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now right, Yeah, you're in the car and you're like, wow,

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I smell weed.

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Speaker 4: What's going on? You're oh, yeah, there's the grower facility? Right.

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H Well, speaking about local, I can't say the thing well,

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speaking about a local, Honey super fan Susan Kay is

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with us. How's that?

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Speaker 11: That was one?

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Speaker 10: Ever?

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Speaker 4: Susan? How are you? I mean, we know that your

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little horse, as the kids say, but I am, but

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we like it.

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Speaker 11: I'm happy to be here and looking forward to spending

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the evening.

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Speaker 10: I have you all to myself. I'm honored.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, once again, lots of jokes in there, but

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it's a two hour show. So we have a top

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ten tonight. But let me just explain up front that

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Lonely Larry, who is the father of Raven, who's not

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here tonight. Lonely Larry was going to take her place.

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He's gone missing in action. Is not a big surprise.

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So the odd thing is that the top ten tonight. Susan,

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what is it please.

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Speaker 11: The Top ten reasons why Lonely Larry is frequently mistaken

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for Raven.

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Speaker 4: Top ten reasons why Lonely Larry is frequently mistaken for Raven.

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The only reason the writers came up with this is

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because when they were inviting him on the show, they said,

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Raven's not going to be on tonight. So he said,

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so can you take our place? And he says, yeah,

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we're mistaken for frequently. That was the dream of the idea,

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but the whole idea. Thank you Club for laughing at

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the right spot. But he's not here, so let's see

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how funny this goes. So Top ten reasons why Lonely

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Larry is mistaken for Raven all the time. I'll stop

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the music, please, Susan. Number ten.

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Speaker 10: Number ten.

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Speaker 11: He was dressed like a girl on Halloween when thugs

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stole his Halloween candy, scarring him for life.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well let's see if he was here,

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he would tell the story really related, so okay. Number

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nine please.

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Speaker 11: Number nine. He has an unhealthy attachment to cats.

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Speaker 4: Everyone is surrounding me has that attachment, as it turns out,

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just me and club. Next. Please let's do this quick,

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so the pain won't last long time.

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Speaker 11: Number eight. They both ride girls' bikes?

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Speaker 4: Should we go?

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Speaker 8: Larry has? How expensive a bike? Does Larry have? Five

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thousand dollars?

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Speaker 4: Bike? Five? He's hanging out with the right girls. Well,

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de let's uh should we go on?

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Speaker 8: Let's run it? Okay, you can always edit it out later.

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Speaker 11: The number seven reasons and why Lonely Larry is frequently

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mistaken for Raven.

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Speaker 10: They both did a nickel at Dana mora.

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Speaker 4: Prison. What's that?

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Speaker 1: It's a prison.

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Speaker 4: It's a prison up in New York where they love.

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They did it nickel five years five years of Wow.

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Speaker 9: Okay, that's a pipar place for a lot of Boston.

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Speaker 4: You don't come you don't come back with the same, Okay,

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Please Susan put us out of our.

468
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Speaker 11: Miserd Number six. Their favorite three Kleenex box movie is Beaches.

469
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Speaker 4: Okay, I've never I've never seen that. Yeah it's yeah, yeah,

470
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because you know you're not Lonely Larry are next, please, Susan.

471
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Speaker 11: Number five, Just like Raven, Lonely Larry has.

472
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Speaker 10: And also twice Okay.

473
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 4: Thank you up, Okay, it might be the top nine

474
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,039
next next, please Susan.

475
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:13,279
Speaker 11: Number four, they both have imaginary friends named Matthew McConaughey.

476
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, that's cool. Wow, okay, next please number three.

477
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 11: They both like their wines whimsical, fruitity, nutty and from

478
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,119
a box.

479
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 4: Box of wine. Wow, can't miss you can't mix with wine.

480
00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:37,720
This is really, really, really bad. Go ahead, please, Susan.

481
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,240
It would be much funny if eat and bail on us.

482
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Speaker 10: It's number two.

483
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Speaker 11: Tousled hair, Carol Channing, glasses, and I like ike T

484
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shirt and looking stocks.

485
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Speaker 10: Yep, that's Larry.

486
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Speaker 4: Right in the style. All right, now we're getting warm

487
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on number two. Okay, please on.

488
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Speaker 11: The number one reason why lonely Larry is frequently mistaken

489
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for Raven. Seriously, are you out of your minds?

490
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Speaker 4: Okay, we'll sweeten it up. Don't worry.

491
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Speaker 9: What's the punchline?

492
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,759
Speaker 4: That is the punchline, As it turns out, you know

493
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,680
what the punchline is is punching Larry. Punch him like

494
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a freaking punching bag. Just as soon as we get

495
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:32,559
the technical stuff, okay, he drops out. Well to send

496
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him a dead fish to the meal.

497
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Speaker 9: He probably knew it was coming.

498
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,319
Speaker 4: He knew it was coming. Yeah, that's true. How do

499
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:41,559
I need that? Why don't we do this? Why don't

500
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we take a commercial break now? And the whole gang

501
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,240
is here? And when we come back switch He's going

502
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to dazzle us with his report, So please stay tuned.

503
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We'll be right back.

504
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Speaker 13: Do you know where the world's most secret bases are located?

505
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506
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Speaker 4: Welcome back. If we went to macaloney's Military's Now show

522
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Here in the Distant thunder radio, Now, this is maclaloney.

523
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What a show we have you tonight. Actually one of

524
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those shows. It can only get better as it turns out. Anyway,

525
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let's start on that, on that, let's start on that

526
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road to improvement. Girls. You know he's here. You can

527
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feel his vibe, very famous one one wanting over there

528
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and I got.

529
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Speaker 6: My I got my vibe turned off turned up to

530
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eleven eleven, so I hope you can feel it. Give

531
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it my all, Mac.

532
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Speaker 4: That was yeah, I got that was switch Wait switching

533
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to your introduced to Talcot? Everything okay with you? Wow?

534
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:22,880
Wanting everything? Okay?

535
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Speaker 6: Everything is okay?

536
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,839
Speaker 4: Here, what's the timeline?

537
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Speaker 6: Had fish and chips for a while, but I've had

538
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just playing chips.

539
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Speaker 4: Well yes, yeah, we're talking about the chips.

540
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Speaker 6: That's right across the streets like that to die for?

541
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Speaker 4: Man? Uh, everyone wants you know, when's your return date?

542
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,039
You ever return date? Yet?

543
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Speaker 6: I don't have a date etched in stone yet.

544
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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, but we're.

545
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Speaker 6: Trying to establish a timeline, like you know, early next year.

546
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Speaker 4: Yep, yep.

547
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Speaker 6: So there's a lot of planning to do, and we're

548
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going to find a place to stay.

549
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Speaker 4: Well, you can stay at al, don't you.

550
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Speaker 8: A nine hundred squarefod caught in your house is twice

551
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as big as mine.

552
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Speaker 4: Give her of those porsches in that clavette and they

553
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can move right in there. You live in the garage

554
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,400
there you go anyway, also with us as UH International Correspondence,

555
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which blade Steve Wood switch.

556
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Speaker 1: Great to be here tonight.

557
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:26,519
Speaker 4: Okay, what does your t shirt say again? It says, well,

558
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:27,799
it's a radio show, dude.

559
00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:31,839
Speaker 6: Oh twenty twenty one summer education camp.

560
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Speaker 4: What is that? Is that some Chinese communist thing going

561
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:37,559
on there? Looks like a guard tower?

562
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Speaker 1: No, I think it was a blast at the at

563
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some of the restrictions that were going on here a

564
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few years ago.

565
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, well how to be timely where? Yeah,

566
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:55,000
he's talking about in it ironic that Susan was with us.

567
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,079
Thank you switching now listen, we got to get back

568
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:02,799
to you because you had a little fan enter action earlier, right, yes, okay,

569
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also with US? Good is that for security chief? Also

570
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with US is our international security chief Willie Club w C.

571
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Speaker 9: Anyway, you know, it's still good to be here. But

572
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that top ten really is brought me right between the eyes.

573
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I just hoping that if the night goes on, you know,

574
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we we bring.

575
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,559
Speaker 4: The the game. Well, I got to.

576
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Speaker 9: Say, you know, as you know, I'm probably not a

577
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:36,720
big fan of your top ten, but this one was

578
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really down tough love from club.

579
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Speaker 4: Okay, that's why he's here, Thank you Club. All right, But.

580
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Speaker 9: Anyways, I'm sure after I listen to switch, it'll bring

581
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,039
me right back up again.

582
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: Well, if lonely Larry had just fulfilled his promise, I

583
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,920
believe it would have been far from you. You can't

584
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:02,200
blame hn't blame him, Okay the writers o oach anyway,

585
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Uh King of the Bees is yeah l R. Now though,

586
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hell Mac, hello, everybody, I feel like I just introduced you.

587
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I think you did.

588
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Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't know what happened, but yeah, anyway, Uh,

589
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the top ten.

590
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have been funny with Raven here too,

591
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but well, yeah, that would have been Yeah, think why

592
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,880
don't we do it again next week. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, club,

593
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,679
I love that my cricket. Uh, we'll be We'll be

594
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at the Gallley next week. So oh wow, yeah, you

595
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,000
gonna have better crickets. We'll have better crickets at the Galley.

596
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:37,639
Everything's better at the Galley so far, so far. Had

597
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a little altercation there in the middle of the show.

598
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,199
Do you remember that we had to stop the show

599
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,079
for a second because there's a argument at the Remember that.

600
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Speaker 8: They were getting loud out there? Yeah, yeah, a little, yeah, probably,

601
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But then Dave was bringing everybody into us.

602
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Speaker 4: He was bringing in Yeah, Dave that the star of

603
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,280
the show. Jesus funny anyway, talking about the star of

604
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the show. About that also with us saving us from

605
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this being a complete sausage potty is super fan Susan.

606
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Speaker 11: Kay, Susan, Hi, everybody, thank you so much for having

607
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me tonight.

608
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,079
Speaker 4: Wow.

609
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Speaker 8: The voice is definitely deeper and turn on more sultry.

610
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Speaker 4: Good voice. Okay, does no one here know what a

611
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:29,920
sausage potty is? That I speak out of turn there anyway, Susan.

612
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Speaker 6: Susan makes some money off that voice.

613
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,119
Speaker 4: Well, she already asked for a credit card, that is what.

614
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What's nice.

615
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Speaker 6: You did say you work from home, right, I know,

616
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,039
I'm happy to hand it over. I don't want to

617
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read you ever seen over the airge Party?

618
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Speaker 4: I know, I've never seen a movie called Sausage Poty

619
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,840
that the animated one. Great, that's hilarious. I'm going to

620
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,559
see that Sausage Pies of cartoon in after Hours in

621
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:04,360
the in a deli and Mike, you know the everything talks, Yeah,

622
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,079
everything talks, and the and the the Falaffles get into

623
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:10,800
fights with the Jewish food.

624
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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, the Bagels getting the fights with the with

625
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the hot dogs.

626
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:21,639
Speaker 4: It's just nothing but dirty drink, sausage party, sausage party.

627
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really it is really really funny.

628
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Speaker 4: It is.

629
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Speaker 8: I was expecting the worst. Yeah, and then I watched it.

630
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:30,840
I was really laughing at ours.

631
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they'd have like the Falaffeles would

632
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have fights with the Kosher food.

633
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,039
Speaker 8: Right, and then the hot Dodgers slipping with the buttons

634
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:39,559
and stuff.

635
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,079
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was. It was classic stuff. Anyway. Okay,

636
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:47,960
so now here we are, we've introduced everybody, and I'm

637
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,840
gonna throw it the Switchy because which had a fan

638
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,480
interaction last week or two weeks ago when you hear

639
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:59,119
this show. We got a letter over the transom of

640
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,119
two men who were taking a motorcycle trip. They wanted

641
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:06,639
to divert to my sister's top. What is it? My

642
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:10,280
sister's tank top, West Virginia. We switch. He runs the

643
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,320
moth Man Museum. We had to fit them into his

644
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Some of us call it point pleasant, that's color cool.

645
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Looked at up but uh, they they we fit you.

646
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You know, you fit into the visit. You know, we

647
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were able to fit them into a very busy schedule.

648
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Switch and they said you were very gracious and had

649
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a great sense of humor.

650
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Speaker 1: We we had a really good time. We uh uh uh,

651
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,039
I think it was Eric was the guy I was

652
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:51,960
talking to first. The guy and uh like a bench

653
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,559
out in front of the museum. So we sat down

654
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:56,400
there for a while while his brother was still a

655
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rummaging around checking out the museum, so we didn't want

656
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,320
to rush him to get out. So we had just

657
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,199
a great conversation about all kinds of things. And then

658
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:10,480
eventually there's a if you pass the Mothman statue and

659
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:12,480
you go across the street, you know there's a little

660
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:15,519
little place called the coffee grinder, and it's a great place.

661
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:18,719
You can get the rafts to eat, like breakfast rafts

662
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,280
or turkey or you know, they've got a few different choices,

663
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,119
they've got different types of coffee. It's just a nice

664
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little place to sit down and relax. So now the

665
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three of us sat down and we had a nice

666
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,519
conversation for about an hour or so. I couldn't stay

667
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:38,679
because actually I had an interview coming out that some

668
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:43,960
guys that were doing a documentary and I can't remember

669
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,400
what their name was. We run the Jeff and I

670
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,360
run into so many of these people, great guys, and

671
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,440
it was just a very brief interview. But we did

672
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,320
the interview in front of the Mothman statue. But the

673
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,639
guys came all the way down from Bay City, Michigan.

674
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:02,599
Oh wow, tripping, that's up a decent decent way up

675
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by the if you uh look at the Michigan like

676
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a like, ah, there it's by the Thumb area.

677
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Speaker 4: The Thumb Michigan. Yes, yeah, go ahead, but let me

678
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:26,639
answer this switchy So yeah, hmm, hang on a second. Okay.

679
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So anyway, they sent me a picture, but at some

680
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:31,280
point I have to have it reduced to I can

681
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,599
send it around to everybody, but it's you and these

682
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:37,239
two guys and everyone's having a good time and so on.

683
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,400
But you don't have the mac maloney T shirt on.

684
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:44,920
You had like I'm switchy or something. Kiss me right?

685
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:48,599
Speaker 1: Uh? I had a I think it was look that

686
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:53,360
they won the logo that looks suspiciously a little bit

687
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,480
like the Batman logo, but not enough to get a lawson.

688
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:00,639
Speaker 4: Okay, that that's the secondary to me. Why wouldn't you

689
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,039
wear the mc maloney T shirts seen a show?

690
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,039
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is about the mccaloney T shirt. I

691
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would have to turn around so they to see the

692
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back and that's where it says macmaloney, So they wouldn't

693
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They wouldn't see my handsome confidence.

694
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Speaker 9: Wellhy couldn't you turn it around wear it in front?

695
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:23,199
Speaker 1: Yea, I'd have to change my pants around, my underwear

696
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and shoes on backwards.

697
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Speaker 9: Well, nothing new there.

698
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Swishy. Well, that's good that you interact with

699
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,920
the fans.

700
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: And as I said, it was they were great guys.

701
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,880
We had just a great conversation and I was able

702
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,960
to tell them, uh, you know, other things to see

703
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,559
around town and so forth, and yeah, they were just

704
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:50,440
and they they seemed to they love mccaloney's Military X file.

705
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 4: I was waiting for that seven minutes.

706
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: They even like the Highest Strangeness Factor starring Steve Ford,

707
00:40:57,519 --> 00:40:59,639
Andy Mercer, and Susie bass Field.

708
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: We lasted about four minutes four seconds in that conversation. Well, anyway,

709
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,320
that's great to kind of. So they said their quote

710
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:13,880
was gracious, good sense of humor, and a good personality.

711
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,559
And that's what your mother says to you when she says,

712
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:21,920
bring your cousin to the prom right. So wow, I'm

713
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,559
trying to I'm trying to work out of the hole.

714
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,119
Help me. So, well, that's that's great. Switch. You have

715
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:29,280
a personality, you are a celebrity on your own. It's

716
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,679
funny that people seek you out.

717
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's that's the first, the first one. That's good. First,

718
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:38,639
I wouldn't like follow you.

719
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 4: Know, you didn't tell them about your plumbing problems.

720
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: Actually, a a lady from one of the Carolinas Uh

721
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:49,719
is the first one to come out. Yes, and she's

722
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,840
known as super fan Susan King Y.

723
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard about that. Yeah, things were going on

724
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,159
there doing that.

725
00:41:56,639 --> 00:42:03,079
Speaker 4: Well they're both downsolved. Well, switchy. Okay, So anyway, you

726
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:06,400
have a report for us, right I do. Why don't

727
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,800
we do this? Why don't we put in your bumper

728
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:09,280
right here?

729
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 5: And now it's time for another story from the Lost

730
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,559
Annals of the Paranormal. It's time for Steve Ward's report

731
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,840
from the Fringe.

732
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 4: Perfect the feedback matches it perfectly. And so switchye, what

733
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,679
do you have for us today?

734
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:38,559
Speaker 1: Well, this is going to be uh you know that.

735
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:40,880
I don't know when the other one's going to air.

736
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,760
But we did a sort of a kind of a

737
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,360
parallel or an offshoot of the Shaver mystery. And this

738
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,360
is not heavy into the Shaver mystery here this one,

739
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,320
but excuse me, I'm going to have to hit the

740
00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:04,320
cough button here. We talked about ed John who was

741
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:09,920
writing letters to Amazing stories about the Shaver mystery stories,

742
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,800
and of course Richard Scharff Shaver was the guy with

743
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,719
the welding gun that was hearing voices and eventually deduced

744
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,159
and Ashley supposedly was a prisoner in the caverns of

745
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:24,559
the Darrow, the evil degenerate beings that create all kinds

746
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:28,039
of havoc on Earth with their technology and so forth. Okay,

747
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:32,920
so h Rap Palmer kept getting a lot of letters

748
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,679
from people claiming contact with these darrow or or going

749
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:42,079
into these caverns and having scary experiences, or just hearing

750
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:49,800
mysterious voices. Well, Rap Palmer gets this this, Oh here

751
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:55,639
we go again, hold on all button. This I think

752
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:01,840
is called allergy. Anyway, he gets this anonymous letter and

753
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,280
this guy claims that there was this last mission he

754
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,840
was flying during World War Two, and of course he's

755
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,039
not He gives his name later, but not in this

756
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:15,800
particular letter. And he and his a partner, they were

757
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,880
shot down over Burma, and they went into this cave

758
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,719
and supposedly when they were in this cave, they were

759
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,800
attacked by these creatures which which turned out to be Darrow.

760
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:30,719
They fought them off with machine guns, allegedly, and they

761
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,480
had some kind of a like a heat beam, and

762
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:37,199
one of them hit his friend's arm and actually burned

763
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,920
a hole in it the size of a dime. Okay, So,

764
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,199
and he says at the end of the letter, he

765
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,880
implores Ray Palmer, please give up this whole thing, give

766
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,559
up the Shaver mystery. Well, later on he writes more

767
00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:56,599
letters and we find out who this guy is and

768
00:44:56,639 --> 00:45:01,280
you may recognize the name of Fred Chrisman, Red Crisman.

769
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:05,000
A lot of people think he was a government agent,

770
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,840
a disinformation agent. He was called before Jim Garrison and

771
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,760
one of the Kennedy inquiries that some people thought he

772
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,119
was one of the tramps on the Grassy Knoll. But

773
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:20,960
he's also instrumental in the Moury Island mystery. I call

774
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,039
it the Moray Island hoax. Now what happened in Moury

775
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:32,519
Island was now, of course, Kenneth Arnold's famous sighting was

776
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:36,679
on the was it the twenty seventh of June nineteen

777
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:42,039
forty seven, and that's where he saw nine discs flying

778
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:45,360
over Washington State, which he said, we're kind of like

779
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,119
skipping along like saucers. And of course the newspapers dubbed

780
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:58,360
that flying saucers. Well, Chrisman and another guy. They were

781
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:05,679
supposed to be two uh uh guys that would cruise

782
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,400
Huget Sound looking for like uh u uh, you know,

783
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,599
floating logs.

784
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:18,119
Speaker 4: And straight log straight log, straight logs. They had a

785
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:22,000
contract with the lumber companies up up the river and

786
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:24,639
any straight log that falls off the boat or whatever,

787
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:26,400
they would pick it up and they would return it.

788
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:29,360
You know, that's that was their business.

789
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:35,199
Speaker 1: Right and uh they uh so, So chris Man claimed

790
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:40,480
that he actually it wasn't Kim. His partner, Harold Doll,

791
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,039
was in his patrol boat and uh they saw a

792
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,639
six discs actually don't shape craft overhead. Now they they

793
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,840
claimed this happened a few days before Kenneth Arnold had

794
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,000
a sighting. I'm skeptical. I think that at once, I

795
00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:01,559
think the whole thing was a hoax, and I'll outline why,

796
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,599
but I think they backdated a few days to make

797
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:08,840
it sound like it happened before Kenneth Arnold's sighting. So

798
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,800
supposedly they saw these six discs. According to Harold Dall,

799
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:17,159
one of them ejected some kind of a slag or

800
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,719
some kind of substance because it seemed like it was

801
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,559
having some kind of trouble, and it supposedly hit his boat,

802
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:28,079
damage his boat, court his boy that was on board,

803
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:34,760
and killed the dog. Well, so that was and so

804
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,840
Fred Chrisman contacted Ray Palmer about this, and of course

805
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,199
Ray Palmer was the editor of Amazing Stories that promoted

806
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,960
the Shaver mystery, and he smelled a good story here,

807
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,840
I think, even though he probably My guess is he

808
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,280
probably thought Chrismin might have been full of it because

809
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,519
of some of the earlier letters he wrote. But still

810
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,119
he smelled a good story. It might have been legitimate.

811
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,559
But even so, even if it was a hoax, it

812
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:07,880
was something you know, worth worth investigating and writing about.

813
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,960
So he convinced, actually convinced Kenneth Arnold to go out

814
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:19,000
there and investigate. Now, Kenneth Arnold was had offered again.

815
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:21,519
He's the guy that saw the discs, the guy that

816
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,920
formed the term flying saucer. Right, he he'd been offered

817
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,280
money several times to uh, to tell a story. He

818
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,639
wasn't interested. And Ray Palmer did the same thing. But

819
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:37,599
then when Ray said, look, you know, here's these harbor

820
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:43,320
patrolman that claimed that they saw these discs. I'd like

821
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,719
you to go out there and investigate, and I'll give you,

822
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,599
you know, money to do it. And Arnold thought, well, heck,

823
00:48:48,639 --> 00:48:51,119
you know, i'ven't got a lot of ridicule. What if

824
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:54,039
this is a legitimate story, maybe this would help bolster

825
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:58,039
my story. So he agreed to go out and investigate.

826
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,199
And he's he was a pilot. So he flew out

827
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:06,440
himself and uh, he uh. He landed in Tacoma, and

828
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,800
he was having a really hard time finding a hotel room,

829
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:16,000
and then all of a sudden he called out of desperation,

830
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:20,280
he called the Windthrop and Tacoma and they said, oh,

831
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,639
mister Arnold, we have your reservation right here. And he felt, what,

832
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,519
maybe there was another Kenneth Arnold, but there wasn't, and

833
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:32,280
so he took it. And so that's that's when he

834
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:34,800
gets uh uh, he's trying to get a hold of

835
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,679
this Harald Doll. He's the one that is supposed to

836
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:39,800
have actually been on the boat when all this happened.

837
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:44,199
And at first Doll was really uh reluctant to talk

838
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,360
to him, but finally he did and he came over

839
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,800
to his hotel room and they had a discussion about

840
00:49:52,920 --> 00:50:00,320
what had happened. So the next day they actually Doll

841
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,360
told him that uh, you know. And the following day

842
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,199
Dahl said now that he had a he was at

843
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,880
breakfast and this stranger in dark clothes sounds like an

844
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,400
m I. V Type came up to him and said,

845
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,960
you know, you uh, you've got you need to to

846
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,480
not talk about what you're what you're seeing. You need

847
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:26,000
to forget about everything men in black and but yes,

848
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:30,159
but supposedly but but well, I'll tell you more about

849
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,880
Doll in a moment, and we'll see whether or not

850
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,199
we believe that that's true. But this guy supposedly threatened

851
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,400
him in his in his family and uh and Dolls

852
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:46,400
uh uh uh uh Arnold to his uh to this

853
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:50,039
house where supposedly had his office, and there's a woman

854
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:53,639
in there, his secretary, who's who's busy with paperwork and

855
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:56,800
so forth. And he brings out one of these fragments

856
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,880
that's it's supposed to have fallen from the from the

857
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:03,280
craft and his boat, right, and he says, he says,

858
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,880
this is just like volcanic rock. And he says, well,

859
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,320
that's that's what fell from the the the ship. So

860
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,599
uh Arnold one, you know, he's he feels like he

861
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:17,679
feels like he's out of his league. So he's got

862
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:20,400
a good a good buddy, Captain E. J. Smith from

863
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,079
United Airlines, and he calls him into help because he

864
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:27,440
figures he's got more expertise than he does, so he

865
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,480
gets in on it and and and they all meet

866
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:33,519
together with with Harold Dall and uh and then they

867
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:37,199
get this call from Ted Morello, who's a reporter, and

868
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,599
he says, you know what, somebody's contacting me and telling

869
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:46,559
and telling me everything. You guys are saying, your room

870
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:47,239
is buged.

871
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,599
Speaker 4: Okay, let's stop there. Stopped there for a second, so

872
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,320
just OKAYU put this together. Now, Okay, this is Kenneth Donald,

873
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,760
you know, the guy who basically is to blame or

874
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,079
whatever to call them flying. So he's become kind of

875
00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:06,400
notorious in nineteen forty seven Americas. So this guy, Ray

876
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,280
Palmer says, let's get him to report on this thing.

877
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:11,840
And the reason Arnold does is because he thinks it's

878
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,679
going to bolst what he said he saw. But he

879
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,119
shows up, as you say, he's out of his leg.

880
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,679
But there's mysteriously this hotel room waiting for him, right,

881
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,840
So he moves in, and these people gradually gather in

882
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,400
this room, and a reporter clolls up and says, I

883
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,800
can hear someone's telling me everything you're saying inside that room,

884
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,719
right right, And.

885
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: Eventually they meet Fred Fred Christman gets in on it,

886
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,800
and it's you know, supposedly Harold Dahl took some photographs

887
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,920
of these things, gave the photographs to Fred Crispin. Fred

888
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,880
Christmin can't find the photographs. Well, big surprise, right, So

889
00:52:55,639 --> 00:53:04,039
they they actually called in Captain Davidson and a Lieutenant

890
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:07,519
Brown of the military and to see if if they

891
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:11,039
would be interested. And they have several examples of this

892
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:18,400
slager or whatever it is, and they they were checking

893
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,719
it out, and of course they seemed like there might

894
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,440
be some interest. But if you could tell their their

895
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,280
eyes were glazing over. And these two guys just thought,

896
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,119
this is just a bunch of crap, and you know,

897
00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:34,840
and christ was really enthusiastic to have these guys there.

898
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,119
Harold Dull just about turned white. He did not want

899
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,639
anything to do with the military. And I think we'll

900
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:45,800
see why in a moment. So they flew it on

901
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,760
a B twenty five and they couldn't stay because there

902
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,760
was some kind of maneuvers or something they had to

903
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,559
do the next day.

904
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,199
Speaker 9: So they.

905
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: Arnold and his his buddy there. They want to they

906
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,920
want to they want to go out to Moray Island

907
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,400
and see the stuff that has supposedly fall on themselves.

908
00:54:09,519 --> 00:54:12,360
They also want to see Harold Doll's boat that was

909
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,639
supposed to have been damaged. So they they they go

910
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,360
out there, go they go see the boat, which is uh,

911
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,719
doesn't look like a Harbord patrol boat at all. The

912
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,119
engine doesn't work, They don't see any particular damage that

913
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,280
might have been created by stuff falling from the sky,

914
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:36,719
right and you know, again they're looking at each other like, Okay,

915
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,960
there's something that really smells here. But they I guess.

916
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,239
They finally get out and get out to Moray Island,

917
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,079
and you know that the the slag just looked like

918
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:50,960
regular I don't you know, stuff that comes from a

919
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,960
factory or whatever, you know, residue. So and while they're

920
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,760
doing this, they find out that that at one that

921
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,960
more morning, that B twenty five plane had crashed crash

922
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,079
and a couple guys that were on there got out,

923
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:10,360
but the the two pilots to the main guys, they

924
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,599
died in the crash for some reason. So and at

925
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:19,039
the same time Chrismin disappears. He takes off on an

926
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:24,199
army barmber to Alaska and uh, it's the it's he

927
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,480
had gone to the tacomaup Smelting Company just to uh

928
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,119
to to see fragments look exactly what they claimed had

929
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:36,679
come from this craft. Right, So, like like a Twilight

930
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,920
Zone episode, you know, uh, you know, uh, poor Arnold

931
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,039
feels like, you know, he's not not a real investigator,

932
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,639
and he's out of his league. He goes back to

933
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:51,000
the house where Doll and his his uh secretary are

934
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,480
supposed to be, and the house is empty. There's even

935
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:59,199
like cobwebs on the door when they open it and

936
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,440
they look inside windows and everything. He thought, God, am

937
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,840
I on the wrong street? Is is it a house

938
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,199
that looks similar? No, it was just a It was

939
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,519
just a bunch of nonsense. So so the post, here's

940
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:14,400
the here's the bottom line. Here.

941
00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

942
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: In one of Jerome Clark's books, he talks there's an

943
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,880
ape reporter named Elmer Vogel. During this time period. He

944
00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:31,519
remembers going to to see Harold Doll. He's on his

945
00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:35,559
back porch asking him questions about the whole thing, and

946
00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:40,159
all of a sudden, Doll's wife blasts out of the

947
00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:45,840
back door with a butcher knife, yeah, a real genuine

948
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,280
butcher knife, and Vogel thinks, okay, I've written my last byeline.

949
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,920
But she goes up to her husband, grabs him by

950
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,599
the collar, and she says in a not kind voice.

951
00:56:57,639 --> 00:57:01,960
He says, stop in very seeing me with your lives.

952
00:57:02,119 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 4: Wow.

953
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: And so Joll comes clean and said it was a hoax.

954
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,320
It was engineered by Chrisman, and they rented the house

955
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,920
and so forth. It was all phony. But but the

956
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,679
thing is mac oh, and the thing is two men

957
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,679
died because of this, right, And what what what what

958
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:26,920
gets me is that some people they blamed Ray Palmer. Well, look,

959
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,039
Ray Palmer is a news guy. Ray Palmer smelled a

960
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,320
bad carp and thought, oh, this has got to be

961
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,079
a hoax. But but what a story. That's all he's doing.

962
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 4: Never stopped him before, go ahead, No, never never stopped

963
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,920
him before. That's what he was known for, you know,

964
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:46,239
I mean he was at the forefront of this kind

965
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,119
of that.

966
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,119
Speaker 1: That's how the whole Shaver mystery started. Because who was it?

967
00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:54,039
Howard Brown read this what he thought was a crackpot

968
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,519
letter and may have been from Richard Shaver, balls it up,

969
00:57:57,679 --> 00:58:01,280
throws it in the wastebasket. Yeah, and just I think,

970
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:06,960
just to piss off Brown, Palmer goes, retrieves it, opens

971
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,119
it up and says, you know what, what it was

972
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:11,599
is supposed to be some kind of a an alphabet

973
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,280
that all alphabets were derived from. But anyway, it was

974
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,559
by Shaver, and so Palmer says, we're gonna printice in

975
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:22,480
the next issue. That's got a great response, and that's

976
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:25,519
triggered the whole thing. That's when when you Shaver wrote

977
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:29,840
the ten thousand word uh manuscript called a Warning the

978
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,159
Future man. So, but that that's uh, you know, you

979
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:36,760
know that that was that was rape. Palmer he had

980
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:40,639
a nose for that thing kind of thing, and but

981
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,800
it was it was it lays on the shoulders of

982
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,800
Fred Crispin for whatever reason, and their head. And don't

983
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,199
you think there had to be there had to be

984
00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:53,480
some kind of funding behind this and the reason what for?

985
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:54,599
Speaker 4: What for?

986
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: Who would do this?

987
00:58:56,159 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: Right?

988
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,079
Speaker 4: You know? I mean I think it back then, I

989
00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,800
think everyone so dollar signs in their eyes when you

990
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,920
realize probably not. But let me just bring up two

991
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,760
things that I've heard at the tail end of the story, okay,

992
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:13,119
And number one is supposedly when Kenneth Donald went back

993
00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:15,280
to Well. First of all, the B twenty five crew

994
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,880
had to get back to their base in California because

995
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,519
the next day was the day that the Army Air

996
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,159
Force Army air clup broke apart from the Army and

997
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:28,800
became officially the US Air Force, okay, And it was

998
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,679
a big ceremony at their base. So that's why they

999
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:34,400
had to get back. And the plane crashes, you know,

1000
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:38,679
for unknown reasons, like you know, on not on takeoff,

1001
00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:40,679
but about an hour into their flight. So those guys

1002
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:43,599
are dead. One of the wings caught on fire. Something

1003
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:46,119
weird it was, and they had and.

1004
00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:50,159
Speaker 1: They had just they had just inspected that that plane, right, yes,

1005
00:59:50,199 --> 00:59:52,320
I mean it should have been in perfect shape.

1006
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 4: Right right, and it was just it was it was

1007
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,000
a shuttle plane like a like a ferry plane that

1008
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,480
they would use to go here and there, you know,

1009
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:00,760
but it was a B twenty five bomber anyway, supposedly.

1010
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,239
Then Kenneth Onold went back and he says, I'm getting

1011
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,880
out of here, and he took off and he had

1012
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,639
trouble with his engine and he somehow fixed it in fly.

1013
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: You know, when it happened. It was he landed for refueling, okay,

1014
01:00:14,679 --> 01:00:19,800
and then when he took off again, he lost power

1015
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,920
and had to do a quick landing at his left

1016
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,440
wheel a little bit found out that the fuel velve

1017
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:28,800
had been turned off.

1018
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:32,159
Speaker 4: Yeah right exactly, yes, yeah, okay. And then The third

1019
01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:35,079
thing is, or the second thing is, is that they

1020
01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:44,599
laid uncovered cables between jac Hoover before in between costume changes.

1021
01:00:44,639 --> 01:00:49,119
Let's say, talking to the head of the Seattle FBI office,

1022
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,239
and basically he is saying, what's going on there? And

1023
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,719
the guy says, I don't know, but I think there's

1024
01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:59,480
something to it. So you know what does that mean?

1025
01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:01,800
I mean, it might have been something they set up

1026
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,400
and they got information about who knows what that means,

1027
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,760
but they looked into it. And then, as you said,

1028
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,880
how weird this guy Fred Christman is he gets called

1029
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:16,199
before the Drink Committee on Assassinations investigating the JFK assassination.

1030
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,679
So you know he's wrapped up in that somehow, which

1031
01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:24,760
is really strange. It's a strange connection, right, and.

1032
01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: You wonder, you know, I mean some of it to me,

1033
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:32,239
it is an obvious folks. But then who shut off

1034
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,639
Kenneth Arnold's fuel fuel line?

1035
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:36,639
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1036
01:01:36,719 --> 01:01:39,039
Speaker 1: And did that the plane that crashed?

1037
01:01:39,159 --> 01:01:39,719
Speaker 12: Was it?

1038
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,639
Speaker 1: Was there some kind of sabotage? And if so, what for?

1039
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,320
I mean all they had, I mean, these guys they

1040
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,440
took some of the slag with them, yes, but you

1041
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,679
could tell that they just thought this was just a

1042
01:01:51,719 --> 01:01:53,000
complete waste of time.

1043
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,159
Speaker 4: Right, yep, yeah, I mean this slag was I mean,

1044
01:01:55,199 --> 01:01:57,920
they tried to say that, you know, it doesn't show

1045
01:01:58,519 --> 01:02:00,519
it doesn't show up in the Seattle area, but it

1046
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:02,840
was just it was drunk, you know, it was drunk,

1047
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,320
and I think it looked odd maybe, and they said, hey,

1048
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,599
let's make this up. I agree with you that they

1049
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:13,920
probably backdated it because if you believe their story, it

1050
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,719
happened before flying sauces were let's say, you know, you

1051
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,119
know what I mean. So I just think though that

1052
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,280
it seems like this French Christmas guy would be just

1053
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,800
kind of a nut, literally a nut, and yet he's

1054
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:31,880
into some kind of shenanigans that they call him before

1055
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,960
the JFA jfk Assassination Committee. You know what was he

1056
01:02:36,039 --> 01:02:39,199
up to. He's one of these guys like when you

1057
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,519
see pictures of the day that Kennedy got assassinated, right

1058
01:02:44,039 --> 01:02:48,320
November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, in the course of

1059
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,599
all the chaos that went on, they arrested four vagrants

1060
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:56,079
they called him four no excuse me, three hobos that

1061
01:02:56,199 --> 01:02:58,679
were up in the train tracks when Kennedy got shot.

1062
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,559
One of those whole is Woody Harrelson's father, the actor,

1063
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,800
and he was released and later convicted of murder and

1064
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,280
has been in He's still alive and was convicted to

1065
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:16,239
life in prison from murder. Somehow he's involved here. What

1066
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,000
is it? You know what I mean? It's like this

1067
01:03:18,159 --> 01:03:21,880
real kind of underworld of stuff going on that is

1068
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,760
very kind of I don't know anyway, thank you, switching

1069
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:26,800
oh hand.

1070
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,639
Speaker 1: Just just as a postcript. It's just another one of

1071
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:32,559
these things where you can you can put your finger

1072
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:35,000
on some of it. Some of it seems to be

1073
01:03:35,199 --> 01:03:40,920
logical and rational, yep, and other aspects are just beyond explanation.

1074
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:43,159
Speaker 4: Yep. I agree with you. You know. It's one of

1075
01:03:43,159 --> 01:03:45,639
those things that when you're in your Yeah, there's books

1076
01:03:45,639 --> 01:03:47,599
about it and everything, and sometimes I felt like the

1077
01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:49,440
one book I read about it, I said, oh my god,

1078
01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:52,119
all this stuff actually happened. But then when you get

1079
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:55,840
into it, they did admit to partially having a hoax,

1080
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,679
But you know, why would you have a partial hoax?

1081
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,239
You know what I mean? You're playing a hoax and

1082
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:02,639
some things come true. But as you say, two guys died,

1083
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,360
and it looks like they try to kill Kenny Pond

1084
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,280
apparently they got the house. Someone bug the hotel room

1085
01:04:10,599 --> 01:04:14,119
and let the reporter know what's going on there, you know.

1086
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,639
Speaker 1: And even Ray Palmer when he when he got a

1087
01:04:16,639 --> 01:04:19,679
report of this, he said, don't don't bring any of

1088
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,239
that slag back. Just just come back as quickly as possible.

1089
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 4: Oh that's funny.

1090
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,039
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1091
01:04:27,159 --> 01:04:30,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. The Maury Island incident is usually what it's under

1092
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,960
and it's I mean, it's fascinating in its own way.

1093
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:37,119
I guess, I don't know. There's a lot of kind

1094
01:04:37,159 --> 01:04:40,960
of different sub chapters to it and stuff. Thank you, switching.

1095
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,440
You know, we're going to clamp the switch. You know

1096
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:47,119
why because he's got his plumber. Yeah, because he's awesome.

1097
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,320
He's awesome. He got his plumbing straight now. But he's

1098
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:54,079
also awesome. Thank you switching. Once we go take a

1099
01:04:54,119 --> 01:04:56,679
break and have a drink and we'll be right back

1100
01:04:56,679 --> 01:04:59,360
after this. You're listening to Mac Maloney's militaryks, I'll show

1101
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,239
you and the just thundering that way. Please stay to

1102
01:05:03,079 --> 01:05:03,559
my dad.

1103
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 14: He's a double ampute and he's one of my favorite

1104
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,639
people in the world. To be a hero is someone

1105
01:05:10,679 --> 01:05:13,559
who fights for a country and freedom. My dad is

1106
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:16,960
a hero os for our troops built his house, and

1107
01:05:17,159 --> 01:05:19,800
my dad can get through the wide doorways, she can

1108
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:20,760
reach anything.

1109
01:05:21,239 --> 01:05:24,159
Speaker 15: Homes for our Troops build and donates specially adapted custom

1110
01:05:24,199 --> 01:05:27,320
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1111
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,039
enables them to rebuild their lives. Join our mission at

1112
01:05:30,199 --> 01:05:31,760
HFOT USA dot org.

1113
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:04,039
Speaker 4: Welcome back, everyone to Mac Maloney's Militark Sound Show here

1114
01:06:04,039 --> 01:06:06,840
on the Distant Under India Network. This is Mac. I'm

1115
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,079
Ronnie Well at a show we have for you tonight.

1116
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,840
It's not over yet, girls, you know we see it,

1117
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,960
the very famous one one across the plot.

1118
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,239
Speaker 6: Hello Mack, Hello, girls, welcome to the show. Welcome back

1119
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,440
to the show. If you haven't been here already, it's fantastic.

1120
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:25,440
It's a little strange, strange around the edges, but that's

1121
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,840
where the shows have always been, right Mac, I guess

1122
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,280
so that's where the rubber meets the road. Is the

1123
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,719
strangeness factor. Don't listen, let me ask Switch. He has

1124
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,320
a lot to do with that too, the strange part.

1125
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:37,719
Speaker 4: Yes.

1126
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,079
Speaker 1: Look, and not just because they do a radio show.

1127
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 4: Right there you go. I'll trying to help you there, Switchy.

1128
01:06:44,199 --> 01:06:46,320
You never saw those hedgehogs again, right, I did that.

1129
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:47,800
They're in hedgehog Heaven. Right.

1130
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:53,639
Speaker 6: The hedgehogs are nowhere to be found around here. Just

1131
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,119
you know, my buddy who lived next door to where

1132
01:06:58,119 --> 01:07:01,320
we used to list says they're still around okay, but

1133
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,280
he's not sure that the new uh it happened at

1134
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,960
our cottage, right or it used to be a cottage,

1135
01:07:07,199 --> 01:07:09,880
is taking care of them. They'd just be living on

1136
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:10,320
their own.

1137
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:19,599
Speaker 4: That's a hawk's apha Okay. Also with us' senior senior

1138
01:07:19,719 --> 01:07:26,360
International Correspondent International Correspondent Switchblade, Steve Ward, switching.

1139
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,559
Speaker 1: Great to be here. There isn't a junior one, is there.

1140
01:07:30,719 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, maybe it's because you're getting SS

1141
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:39,039
benefits now you're a senior. Okay, Okay, Well we're gonna

1142
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:41,400
have to pump the show so full of fake laughter.

1143
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,800
I'm gonna have to take out a loan, so Switch

1144
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,639
everything's okay with you, et cetera.

1145
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: Everything's good.

1146
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 4: Okay. How much did that breakfast cost you today? That

1147
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,000
was probably a little bit more than usual. Right, I'm sorry,

1148
01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:00,400
what how much did that breakfast cost you today? It

1149
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,719
looks like a little okay, and I know that you

1150
01:08:04,719 --> 01:08:06,360
you've tipped intermittently.

1151
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,159
Speaker 1: I did not tip today, but you know who I

1152
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,639
did tip today when I when I was working on

1153
01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:17,319
my report today, for some reason, I got a hanker

1154
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:20,800
in for a large coffee and a couple of donuts.

1155
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:23,000
I don't eat a lot of donuts these days. But

1156
01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:25,479
there is a place just up the street, yes, called

1157
01:08:26,039 --> 01:08:30,920
called mcapey's Donuts, and it's it's in this big, beautiful building.

1158
01:08:31,159 --> 01:08:34,359
I don't know how they how they survived, but anyway,

1159
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,640
their donuts are pretty good. So I went down there

1160
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,760
and got a giant coffee and a couple of donuts,

1161
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,760
and it was the other day, you know, the same deal.

1162
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,800
They don't have a you know sometimes when you're punching

1163
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,199
your card on those things, you know you can put

1164
01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:51,319
in a tip. They don't have that there. They don't

1165
01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:53,960
have a tip cup. So one I said, do you

1166
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,680
guys accept tips? And she said yes, And I thought,

1167
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,640
holy cow? And you know, so I gave her five bucks.

1168
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 4: Wow, switchy, Okay, don't you know I.

1169
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:10,119
Speaker 1: Have no problem uh tipping people or putting money in

1170
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:13,279
a tip cup for jobs that I would not care

1171
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:15,760
to do. I don't think i'd want to be standing

1172
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:21,000
on my feet all day serving people coffee and donuts. Well,

1173
01:09:21,079 --> 01:09:26,880
it's an honorable profession. I don't think my body could. Yeah,

1174
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:30,359
let me tell you something else. There's a there's a

1175
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,359
Dollar General very close to of course, there's a Dollar

1176
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,239
General about every ten feet in West Virginia. Anyway, Uh

1177
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,600
the uh that they are the ladies there and there's

1178
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,840
about three ladies and a couple of guys. And I

1179
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,159
don't know how. I don't know how they do it.

1180
01:09:49,239 --> 01:09:52,039
I mean they get tons of stuff in there that

1181
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:56,439
it's filled with everything. Somehow they keep up with the

1182
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,199
stock and they take care of the customers. There is

1183
01:09:59,239 --> 01:10:02,680
a h self serve line. I don't do self serve lines.

1184
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,800
I'd end up in prison somehow. But you know, I

1185
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,560
just my hat goes off to people doing those kinds

1186
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,880
of jobs that I if I was mac, if they

1187
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,079
hired me for a Dollar General put away stock, I

1188
01:10:18,079 --> 01:10:20,119
would collapse after about ten or fifteen.

1189
01:10:20,399 --> 01:10:22,239
Speaker 4: Let me ask this, though, you're not tipping those people

1190
01:10:22,279 --> 01:10:23,840
though I am that might be a little bit inappropriate.

1191
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: No, I'm sure that they would not allow that.

1192
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,239
Speaker 4: But no, wow, huh dollars General.

1193
01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 8: So one thing quick switching, does your Dollar General actually

1194
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,039
charge a dollar for things, or are they like the

1195
01:10:37,079 --> 01:10:39,079
ones up here? Now everything's a dollar and a quarter

1196
01:10:39,319 --> 01:10:40,840
till twenty five general.

1197
01:10:41,279 --> 01:10:46,279
Speaker 1: Actually it's free. It's just just just a name, a name.

1198
01:10:46,319 --> 01:10:48,319
It's just a name. It's they have, they have, but

1199
01:10:48,359 --> 01:10:53,680
they have everything there. They even have food there. Well,

1200
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,920
our dollar generals up here have everything. And it was

1201
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,560
supposed to be, you know, a buck apiece, and then

1202
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,840
last year they jumped the price twenty five percent, so

1203
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,000
now it's a dollar and a quarter.

1204
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 4: General. Think of another thing, and I tell you the.

1205
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 10: One dollar tree.

1206
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,279
Speaker 8: Maybe you might be right, but you know, the one

1207
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:17,079
thing I go in there to buy it like it's like.

1208
01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 16: A seven eleven, okay, but the dollar store near us

1209
01:11:23,039 --> 01:11:26,159
that the only reason I go in there, yes, is

1210
01:11:26,199 --> 01:11:27,840
to buy black licorice.

1211
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, okay, and they don't have it.

1212
01:11:32,119 --> 01:11:35,279
Speaker 8: They don't have it all the time. You admit that

1213
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:40,119
I love black licorice. Anis set Zambuka. I love that stuff.

1214
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,720
But I mean, as far as the liqueurs go, I

1215
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,720
can't drink it. I can sip it, wow, and I

1216
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,079
leave it in the freezer of this with with Yeah,

1217
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:51,840
they got the club with the twizzlers always black Twizzlers,

1218
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,840
and I don't. I don't think there is any flavor

1219
01:11:56,039 --> 01:12:02,119
in the world, and that stuff beyond people. So yeah,

1220
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,760
most people hate it.

1221
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 4: It's not it's it's the healthiest candy you can eat,

1222
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,760
believe it or not. But but you can die from

1223
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,239
eating too much of it. That that is just a

1224
01:12:13,399 --> 01:12:15,079
just an unpleasant taste.

1225
01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 8: I love this stuff. My wife hates it, hates the

1226
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,039
smell of it. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I can't eat

1227
01:12:20,039 --> 01:12:22,239
it in the house. I have I have a brand

1228
01:12:22,279 --> 01:12:26,039
new package of it in the car. And if I

1229
01:12:26,039 --> 01:12:28,079
get stopped by the cops, I'm just gonna shove a

1230
01:12:28,079 --> 01:12:30,239
bunch of that in my mouth and go, I.

1231
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:33,239
Speaker 4: Mean, lickorice, you know, what do you want? But if

1232
01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:36,560
you can, I love that stuff. Yeah yeah, really yeah, And.

1233
01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 8: That is the most polarizing. And the smell taste is

1234
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,960
black licorice either. And I don't know anybody who goes

1235
01:12:44,039 --> 01:12:47,720
yeah it's okay, I kind of it's all right, like

1236
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,560
it makes them want to vomit or it makes them,

1237
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,199
you know, like club And I love the stuff.

1238
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,319
Speaker 4: I know one person who is thinking of vomiting, right, Yeah,

1239
01:12:56,319 --> 01:12:59,079
I do too. I can see it anyway. That voice

1240
01:12:59,079 --> 01:13:03,319
that you're hearing a black liquorice is Aronando? You' a

1241
01:13:03,359 --> 01:13:06,279
foe mechanic, the black liquorice guy. You go, well, you

1242
01:13:06,319 --> 01:13:07,119
want to be known as that?

1243
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:07,399
Speaker 1: Really?

1244
01:13:07,399 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 5: Well?

1245
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 8: You know, like I said, I every year I get

1246
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,199
a bottle of zambuca from my niece. Is a Christmas present,

1247
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,359
And the first thing I do is shove that baby

1248
01:13:15,399 --> 01:13:18,199
in the freezer. Yes, and then every now and then

1249
01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:20,399
I'll go in, I'll grab a really a little bit

1250
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,359
in a glass. Does she call you the black liquor

1251
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,439
you know, she's called me an idiot?

1252
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 4: Anyway?

1253
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 8: But I love the stuff and I sip on it,

1254
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,319
and now we do too, and now we are you know,

1255
01:13:33,079 --> 01:13:36,560
now we know but zambucas. Like I said, I can't

1256
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,279
drink the stuff, but I will sip it.

1257
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,079
Speaker 4: Now there's another show going on, end of this one.

1258
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,760
Thank you well for joining us, No problem, glad to

1259
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:51,920
be here. That's a little liqorice. Tell me anyway. Also

1260
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:57,760
with us, did I introduce club already? I think I

1261
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,920
upset the Apple cards. I can't. I'm out of it.

1262
01:14:00,119 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 9: Know you didn't and I'm not. And it's important that

1263
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:04,199
I speak.

1264
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 4: Okay, all right? So also with US is UH International

1265
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,800
Security Chief Willie club w C.

1266
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 9: Well, it is pretty good to be here tonight.

1267
01:14:15,039 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 4: Pretty good.

1268
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 9: I'm a little disturbed. A couple of minutes ago I

1269
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:24,600
heard that which you can go to promotion? What do

1270
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,479
you have to do to earn the senior? And how

1271
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,880
much more of a bump do you get in there?

1272
01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: I can tell you there's a lot of course work.

1273
01:14:37,399 --> 01:14:44,039
Speaker 9: I might file some kind of a HR. Anyways, you

1274
01:14:44,079 --> 01:14:46,239
get into black liquids, and as you can see, I

1275
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,279
buy it by the box.

1276
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,039
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well that's mad with you.

1277
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 9: They always said, you know it keeps your heart and

1278
01:14:55,119 --> 01:14:56,439
and so I wait, maybe.

1279
01:15:00,319 --> 01:15:02,039
Speaker 4: What do you wrap it up? What do you strap

1280
01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:06,439
it around? How do you do that? It's the viagora

1281
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,079
of candy? Then, is that what you're saying?

1282
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,119
Speaker 9: There's something in it? I've read about it, I wondered,

1283
01:15:13,159 --> 01:15:16,279
because I noticed things were happening every time i'd have

1284
01:15:16,319 --> 01:15:16,760
a bag.

1285
01:15:18,399 --> 01:15:21,319
Speaker 4: Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow.

1286
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:22,039
Speaker 9: Thing.

1287
01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:25,520
Speaker 4: Well, So, anyways, let me ask you this, if you

1288
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,800
eat too much, if you eat too much of it,

1289
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,000
do you have to go to the emergency room after

1290
01:15:31,039 --> 01:15:31,880
three hours?

1291
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 9: Oh no, no, no, no, it'd only last about ten minutes.

1292
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,039
Speaker 8: Well, okay, all right, last time, last time I had

1293
01:15:37,039 --> 01:15:40,239
a bag, my wife found out and then I was,

1294
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,279
of course, yeah.

1295
01:15:42,119 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 4: How she find out? All right, all right, let's let's wow.

1296
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:53,479
Wait also with us, wow, also with us.

1297
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 9: Oh, I know before you go, I get I had

1298
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,239
something else. It's very important because you talked about you know,

1299
01:15:59,279 --> 01:16:02,680
the doulogy r. Yes, yes, I'm big in the financial stuff,

1300
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,560
so I'm always online and watching it. By the way,

1301
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,199
do all the General shares are down about thirty percent

1302
01:16:08,319 --> 01:16:11,199
for the year. It's been in trouble for more than

1303
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:15,279
a year because of the weak consumer spending and but

1304
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:20,960
the stock is cratering and there's been even safety violations

1305
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:27,000
and violent incidents and chain but Switch friends, Yeah, smaller

1306
01:16:27,079 --> 01:16:29,399
stores a lot of problems.

1307
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 4: Well, they're hard working Switch as it turns out.

1308
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, but I feel bad because people rely on that.

1309
01:16:36,399 --> 01:16:39,279
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean it's just stuff. It's like cheap stuff.

1310
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: General bust their tail and do theyre doing good job?

1311
01:16:43,239 --> 01:16:44,079
Speaker 4: Well, I don't doubt it.

1312
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,199
Speaker 9: I bought people aren't spending the money down there anymore?

1313
01:16:48,399 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 4: Uh listening and I can walk there. Yeah, I was

1314
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,560
in the middle of my introduction. I'm sorry, brightening up

1315
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,960
the show tonight with his Selchy voice is super Fan

1316
01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:04,359
and Susan Kay super Fan. Susan Kay, Susan.

1317
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 10: Hi, everybody, how are you doing?

1318
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,119
Speaker 4: A Hey, Susan, what's shaking? Let's shake?

1319
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 10: Speaking of shaken, you promised me some music.

1320
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, we will put that in later on.

1321
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,319
We got to pick just the right kind of music.

1322
01:17:22,359 --> 01:17:24,319
So everything okay with you more or less?

1323
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 10: Yes, everything's going well.

1324
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 4: Thank you for asking in the huss He's okay, Tony

1325
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:35,319
doing well.

1326
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,239
Speaker 10: Yes, they're enjoying that.

1327
01:17:38,399 --> 01:17:42,079
Speaker 11: It's not ninety five degrees in the shade all day

1328
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:45,079
long now, so the.

1329
01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 10: Weather's been rather nice, okay. And I do want to mention.

1330
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 11: We talked about donuts and remember the donut kitchen and

1331
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:55,199
we'll win.

1332
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:01,039
Speaker 4: Donut kitchen. Where was that? I don't right off of.

1333
01:18:01,159 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 11: The main road there, never mind, Sorry you would say, oh,

1334
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:07,960
I know, the donut kitchen.

1335
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:11,359
Speaker 10: It was a little private. They had the best doughnuts

1336
01:18:11,399 --> 01:18:11,920
in the world.

1337
01:18:13,239 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 4: Have you here of Cogden Donuts up in Maine. It's

1338
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,079
the most famous donut place in New England. I was

1339
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:22,159
up there one one member. We butt you a donut,

1340
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,600
a chocolate frosted otor size was in a place. Yeah,

1341
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,560
they do stuff like it's good. But it's like, you know,

1342
01:18:31,319 --> 01:18:33,840
it's right up past algonqu you just keep on going.

1343
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,560
That's right there in the left. Yeah, yeah, it's it's

1344
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,880
you know, okay, anyway, donut out.

1345
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 6: So I love donuts.

1346
01:18:45,079 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 4: I love donuts too.

1347
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,520
Speaker 6: I don't want to here in the UK.

1348
01:18:48,199 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 4: Donuts they have to be done just right, and a

1349
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,760
lot of chain donuts don't do it for me. But

1350
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,600
if the homemade donuts done right, they're really good. I

1351
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:01,199
like them. So anyway, it's Switch. As it turns out,

1352
01:19:01,359 --> 01:19:05,880
Switch has a follow up to what he talked about

1353
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,880
in the earliest segment. So we're talking about these guys, right,

1354
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,399
I mean, you know Fred Crisman and this guy Dow

1355
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,079
and all the shenanigans that were going on around Mario Island.

1356
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,039
But that's almost like connected to other things, right almost.

1357
01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:22,640
Is Ray Palmer the guy who kind of connects all

1358
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,560
these things, these other weird stories.

1359
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: Well he is was kind of the simple focus of

1360
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:34,520
a lot of them. Of course, he he's the one

1361
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:39,119
that promoted the Shaver mystery and he uh he actually

1362
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:43,880
didn't you know he got this uh this a shaver

1363
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,239
called it the Mantong alphabet, which all alphabets were derived from,

1364
01:19:48,319 --> 01:19:52,119
is kind of a very strange deal, but anyway, people

1365
01:19:52,159 --> 01:19:56,159
responded to it, and and Shaver was, uh, he was

1366
01:19:56,199 --> 01:19:59,399
living in Bartow, Pennsylvania at the time, and he h,

1367
01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:04,760
I was encouraged to you know, he really believed that

1368
01:20:05,399 --> 01:20:09,199
through what he believed was his own experiences being imprisoned

1369
01:20:09,239 --> 01:20:13,520
in the caverns, and although he was probably in an

1370
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:19,359
institution at the time, and from getting like messages and

1371
01:20:19,399 --> 01:20:22,199
so forth, he really believed there was this danger, this

1372
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,359
evil deep beneath the earth and the darrow these detrimental robots.

1373
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,800
They weren't literally robots. They were they actually came from

1374
01:20:31,239 --> 01:20:35,079
the Titans, from from eons ago. They came to Earth.

1375
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,520
They the radiation the sun changed, so they some of

1376
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,520
them left, some of them went into the caverns, and

1377
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,640
but they changed. They became some kind kind of mutated,

1378
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:50,039
and some of the machinery they had also had radiation

1379
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:53,680
that linked that changed them. But they became evil, and

1380
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,199
according to John Keel was kind of like a modern

1381
01:20:56,239 --> 01:20:59,119
day devil theory. But they could send these rays out

1382
01:20:59,159 --> 01:21:02,680
to his car crashes and to do all kinds of

1383
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:08,159
horrible things. So uh uh what what what Palmer did

1384
01:21:08,279 --> 01:21:12,600
was he took uh uh that ten thousand worried uh

1385
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,399
warning or whatever, and changed into kind of a story

1386
01:21:17,039 --> 01:21:22,119
supposedly partially factual maybe and and but added all kinds

1387
01:21:22,119 --> 01:21:25,199
of elements to it and called it I remember Lemiria.

1388
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,760
People responded to that. They wanted more Shaver stories, and

1389
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:34,520
the the circulation of amazing stories skyrocketed. But here's an

1390
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:39,720
interesting story. Uh He Palmer wanted to meet Shaver to see,

1391
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,520
you know, is this sky totally crackers? Is he you know?

1392
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,640
Is he rational? So he he actually took the train

1393
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,520
from Chicago to Bartow, Pennsylvania. He never flew and he

1394
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,399
met Shaver and his wife and they they talked long

1395
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,720
into the night. And so when, uh when when Shaver?

1396
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,399
When when Ray Palmer went to bed. It was one

1397
01:21:59,399 --> 01:22:03,159
of these deals where the bedrooms had an adjoining hall.

1398
01:22:03,399 --> 01:22:05,359
He had to go through one to get I guess,

1399
01:22:05,359 --> 01:22:08,239
to go to the latrine or whatever. So here's Ray

1400
01:22:08,319 --> 01:22:11,079
Palmer laying there at night, and all of a sudden

1401
01:22:11,399 --> 01:22:14,920
he starts hearing voices, about four or five voices. I

1402
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,960
think a couple of them were men, one was a woman,

1403
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:21,119
and one sounded like a child, and they're talking about

1404
01:22:21,159 --> 01:22:24,439
this horrible event that took place where a woman was

1405
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:28,000
murdered and it happened four miles away from there and

1406
01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:33,840
four miles beneath the earth. So Ray Palmer interjects himself

1407
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,520
in this bizarre conversation out of nowhere, and he says,

1408
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,479
what is this? What's going on? And the childlike voice said,

1409
01:22:42,079 --> 01:22:43,960
don't listen to him, he's an idiot.

1410
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 4: Wait a minute.

1411
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: The voices faded.

1412
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 4: Away, ristof you for a second, switchy, switchy. Yes, So

1413
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,399
where is he? Is he on the train? Is he

1414
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:53,119
off the train?

1415
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 9: No?

1416
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: No, no, this is in Shaver's as I guess, in

1417
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:58,319
the room.

1418
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 4: Okay, so these people are actually real, they're actually well.

1419
01:23:03,279 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 1: He what he did with the next day. He's looking

1420
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,680
all over for speakers and wires and so forth, and

1421
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:12,720
he couldn't couldn't find anything. And much later on he

1422
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:18,520
revealed what actually happened. The voices were coming from Richard

1423
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:24,479
Shaver as he slept, and in later years, really when

1424
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,880
the Shavers and Palmers actually lived very close to each

1425
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:32,239
other in Wisconsin, Uh, you know, a Shaver was dozing

1426
01:23:32,279 --> 01:23:36,279
on the couch and Linda Palmer, one of the his

1427
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:41,479
daughters actually heard voices coming from him as he slept.

1428
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,079
Something bizarre was going on with this guy.

1429
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 4: So it was Ray, his daughter and the shave of

1430
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,279
guy in the same hotel room and they hearing voices

1431
01:23:49,319 --> 01:23:49,680
from him.

1432
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, this is in the house

1433
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,840
they were. They lived close by and and uh and

1434
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,720
the Shavers would would would babysit their kids. I mean

1435
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,880
he he had off kinds of bizarre beliefs about this,

1436
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,640
these entities and so forth. But he was never you know,

1437
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,680
uh violent or anything like that.

1438
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,119
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, kind of just asked you something I got

1439
01:24:12,199 --> 01:24:13,600
to know from one one. He wants to know what

1440
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:18,359
the data looked like, what what the data looked like.

1441
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 6: What the looked like. There's a lowdown on that story

1442
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:25,000
a little bit.

1443
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,159
Speaker 1: He had a son of two daughters and uh and

1444
01:24:29,239 --> 01:24:34,199
so uh now see Shaver always maintained that he was

1445
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:36,600
physically a prisoner in the caverns.

1446
01:24:37,079 --> 01:24:37,279
Speaker 4: Uh.

1447
01:24:37,319 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: Well, Ray Palmer seemed to believe Shaver. He thought it

1448
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,680
was more of something on the astral plane where he

1449
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:49,159
was kind of imprisoned in. But uh he uh, you know,

1450
01:24:49,319 --> 01:24:53,279
there was this whole incredible sort of mythos of mythology

1451
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,159
and uh and interest. You know, he he believed, uh

1452
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,439
that these rays were coming out to torment him. He

1453
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,119
even would give names to some of these, like like

1454
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:05,720
Max the Darrow was one of the ones that he

1455
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,159
said was always tormenting him. Well, it's interesting because there

1456
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:11,479
was a parallel if you go back to the late

1457
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:16,039
seventeen hundreds, James Tilley Matthews, a Welsh tea merchant, he

1458
01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:22,039
had kind of the same delusion, the same schizophrenia. He believed.

1459
01:25:22,359 --> 01:25:26,079
He called it the Heirloom gang. They weren't Darrow from

1460
01:25:26,079 --> 01:25:28,319
deep beneath the earth, but he believed in the in

1461
01:25:28,359 --> 01:25:31,079
the in the basement of the House of Commons, there

1462
01:25:31,239 --> 01:25:35,600
was these this machine, this heirloom with sales and baffles

1463
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,600
and so forth, that would send out rays that would

1464
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,920
would tamper with your brain. And the same way that

1465
01:25:42,319 --> 01:25:46,960
you know, centuries later Richard Shaver believed, and he even

1466
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:52,560
Matthews even gave names to some of the the whatever

1467
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,920
entities that were supposed to have been tormenting him. The

1468
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,920
only difference with Shaver, I think Shaver firmly believed every

1469
01:26:00,199 --> 01:26:02,199
it was happening to him. I think he was he

1470
01:26:02,279 --> 01:26:05,239
was tapped into a source of information a little bit

1471
01:26:05,399 --> 01:26:09,520
like you know, sometimes some of the channelers were. And

1472
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,680
it doesn't mean that it's you know, objective information, but

1473
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:18,520
anyway that the thing is shaver tapped into a uh.

1474
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:20,119
Speaker 4: It tapped it.

1475
01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:22,119
Speaker 1: You know, there are all kinds of people that wrote

1476
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,920
Ray Palmer privately and said, you know, we've had some

1477
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:30,119
of these same experiences, not just hearing voices, but encountering

1478
01:26:30,359 --> 01:26:32,920
things and caves and so forth. You know, it's like

1479
01:26:33,119 --> 01:26:35,319
like like it goes back to the you know, all

1480
01:26:35,359 --> 01:26:39,039
the great heroes, Odysses, Aneas and so forth, they all

1481
01:26:39,399 --> 01:26:41,840
you know, had this this had to do this journey

1482
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,920
to the underworld. And all kinds of people have heard voices.

1483
01:26:45,359 --> 01:26:49,079
I mean, Joan of Arc even Philip K. Dick, uh,

1484
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:55,880
Emmanuel Swedenberg, William Blake, like Switchard, Joan burning being burned

1485
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:56,359
at the stake.

1486
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 4: But you know, can I ask you something switching during

1487
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,680
the advocate here? Okay? What if he was just nuts?

1488
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:04,520
You know what I mean?

1489
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: And I think, well, I'm sure he was schizophrenic, but

1490
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,119
I don't think he was just nuts. I think that

1491
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:14,600
he was there was another element to it. I think

1492
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:18,640
something he was receiving information somehow.

1493
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,239
Speaker 4: Remember Paulino. Remember a good friend Paulino who passed away

1494
01:27:22,359 --> 01:27:28,439
a little while ago, and he for a part of

1495
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,720
his life he was in the seminary and he used

1496
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:35,399
to work in well they called the mental institutions back then.

1497
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,840
I remember him being on the show and saying that

1498
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:42,279
when you talk to people who are schizophrenia, the one

1499
01:27:42,359 --> 01:27:44,800
side of them tell stories, some of them that are

1500
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,760
just you know, unbelievable. But then he says, it seems

1501
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,720
like there were the other side of was tapped into

1502
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,479
something that the rest of us can't see. You know.

1503
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:59,479
He believed that they really saw ghost. He believed, you know,

1504
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,840
that they heard that the voices they heard weren't just

1505
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:05,000
these random voices, that they're actually, in a weird way,

1506
01:28:05,079 --> 01:28:08,840
tuned into something that we can't be tuned into, you know,

1507
01:28:09,279 --> 01:28:13,439
So in a way, who knows, you know, I.

1508
01:28:13,359 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: Think that's what happened to Shaver. But there's no question that,

1509
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:21,039
you know, he had some form of schizophrenia. But you know,

1510
01:28:21,079 --> 01:28:22,960
some of the other other there was a guy named

1511
01:28:23,039 --> 01:28:27,600
Charles Marco that had read some of the Shavers stuff.

1512
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,680
He was in Flint, Michigan in Christmas Eve of nineteen

1513
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,640
forty three, and he's on the street I can't remember

1514
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,720
the name of the street, but he sees a couple

1515
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,000
people there and he's getting a telepathic message from them.

1516
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,399
And they're like addressed in these like heavy overcoats and

1517
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,279
slouch hats, and what they are is they're the Terot,

1518
01:28:50,319 --> 01:28:52,760
the good guys, and they're sending him a message of

1519
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:57,159
warning to guard his thoughts. And he's trying, you know,

1520
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:01,039
he tries to follow them, but he's frozen, can't and

1521
01:29:01,079 --> 01:29:04,640
once he's able to move, they're lost in the crowd. Well,

1522
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:09,359
this guy becomes a fanatic. He wants to find an

1523
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,279
entrance to the underworld and he spends decades doing it.

1524
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,680
And then there's this other guy at George, I can't

1525
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,119
think of his name. He was a UFO boff in Michigan,

1526
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,119
and they used to write a column together called I

1527
01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:27,600
Live with the Tarots. Their goal was to find an

1528
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,840
entrance to the inner world and live with these good guys, right,

1529
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,960
And so this George guy disappears for years, and then

1530
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,880
eventually this manuscript shows up about twelve years later that

1531
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:44,119
purportedly from this guy who's already living with the Tarots,

1532
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:49,119
char George Marco gets it, and he buys this hook

1533
01:29:49,159 --> 01:29:52,119
line and sinker, well, guess what. The entrance to the

1534
01:29:52,239 --> 01:29:56,960
underworld to find the taro is Blowing Cave, Arkansas. So

1535
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:01,840
he's getting together an expedition to to with some people

1536
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,520
that are firm believers and they're going to follow him

1537
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,199
in there. So he does kind of a scouting mission

1538
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,319
and he to Blowing Cave and he gets to the

1539
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:15,079
entrance and almost as if the darrow are real and

1540
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:18,880
they know his thoughts, almost as if they aim their

1541
01:30:19,239 --> 01:30:25,359
their mechanisms toward him, a horde of yellow jackets attack him.

1542
01:30:26,319 --> 01:30:29,840
He dies of a heart attack after decades of trying

1543
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:34,119
to fit really to live with and this manuscript talks

1544
01:30:34,119 --> 01:30:36,560
about how they went down to the cavern, they saw

1545
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,800
this purple light and they meet these these nine foot

1546
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,600
tall people or whatever. I mean. When you get into

1547
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:46,479
the Shaver mystry, there's so many fascinating characters and offshoots.

1548
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 4: And first of all, what year is this? This is

1549
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,359
in the fifties, right, this is it started?

1550
01:30:52,399 --> 01:30:56,119
Speaker 1: It was about forty three, I think it was when

1551
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,760
Shaver sent that first manuscript.

1552
01:31:00,119 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 4: Who died? Exactly did someone actually die of beastings? Really?

1553
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, George Marco.

1554
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 4: Wow, well the guy who had been looking for this

1555
01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:11,560
way into the center of the ear.

1556
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,520
Speaker 1: Right there at this glowing cave that allegedly will lead

1557
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:19,159
you down. Now it may have been a blessing in disguise.

1558
01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:21,760
I mean, can you imagine leading a group of people

1559
01:31:22,039 --> 01:31:24,960
down into a cavern where you think you're going to

1560
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,960
meet these uh, this utopia, these beings, and you just

1561
01:31:29,399 --> 01:31:32,439
end up in a dark corridor somewhere and somebody finds

1562
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:33,680
your skeleton.

1563
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 4: Pointing in the direction of how to get out. Now,

1564
01:31:37,359 --> 01:31:39,960
that's crazy, man, I mean, that's really it is.

1565
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,199
Speaker 1: And there was so there's so many fascinating letters and

1566
01:31:43,279 --> 01:31:46,640
that the people came in and and claim they found

1567
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:50,560
found caverns and so forth. It's and and and the

1568
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:55,399
thing is the the the sales for amazing stories, okyrocket.

1569
01:31:55,960 --> 01:32:01,079
But the science science fiction guys, they hated mystery. They

1570
01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:04,479
wanted to exercise all that and go back to straight

1571
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:08,960
science fiction. So eventually they pushed Palmer out. Palmer came

1572
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,039
back with a vengeance. He's the one that co founded

1573
01:32:11,239 --> 01:32:14,079
Fate magazine and all kinds of other magazines.

1574
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 4: He was and he was.

1575
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,159
Speaker 1: He had a horrible accident when he was a kid.

1576
01:32:19,399 --> 01:32:23,239
Both and we'll say this both Shaver, Richard Shaver and

1577
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:29,159
Ray Palmer, whatever the truth was about it overcame amazing

1578
01:32:29,319 --> 01:32:32,079
adversity over the over their lifetime.

1579
01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 4: Well funny, that's what you, uh, I want to excel at.

1580
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,920
And it turns out that they did. It's just a funny,

1581
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,479
funny mountain to climb, you know. So thank you? So

1582
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:47,720
what you're going to clap for you again? Oh I am?

1583
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,880
And I don't know what time and a half of this.

1584
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, really I was wondering if you get paid more

1585
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:59,119
more got the clap you didn't get paid.

1586
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 4: For some reason. In a few minutes we have left

1587
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,840
your report. Just you know, you think of wow, what happened?

1588
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,119
Was the real mystery that we got? A real mystery

1589
01:33:09,159 --> 01:33:12,199
that happened here about three weeks ago. And you know

1590
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:16,039
what I'm going to talk about is this super yacht

1591
01:33:16,199 --> 01:33:18,560
that sunk off of Sicily. We might have talked about

1592
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,079
it a couple of weeks ago. Now here's here's the thing.

1593
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,119
And who was they talked about this? Now they were

1594
01:33:24,119 --> 01:33:26,920
in the middle of a storm there. Now let's just

1595
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,119
set the table. Like about three weeks ago, this guy

1596
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,079
who is kind of like this note herors hedge fun guy,

1597
01:33:32,159 --> 01:33:36,239
but multi multi billionaire type guy. He's in this yacht

1598
01:33:36,359 --> 01:33:40,000
with his family and his lawyers and his business people,

1599
01:33:40,199 --> 01:33:43,279
and they are celebrating the fact that they were found

1600
01:33:43,359 --> 01:33:46,680
innocent of trying to screw Hewlett Packett out of like

1601
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,880
millions and millions of dollars okay, on on a on

1602
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,079
a on a business they own Hewlett pack had bought

1603
01:33:54,319 --> 01:33:58,439
and they found out that they overvalued, you know, the business,

1604
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,840
which I guess is something going on aroun round. But

1605
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:04,560
he was found innocent. They're having a potty to celebrate

1606
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:08,159
in this yacht that is supposed to be unsinkable, literally

1607
01:34:08,279 --> 01:34:13,199
sold like that unsinkable by this very alien Italian yacht maker.

1608
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,680
They were in a storm, but boats around them very

1609
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:22,840
close within like fifty hundred feet or whatever. Nothing happened

1610
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:27,640
to them. Okay, but people say they saw this mini

1611
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:33,039
tornado many I forget what they call those, right, like

1612
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:38,000
waterpo come right down on this this unsinkable yacht and

1613
01:34:38,079 --> 01:34:41,600
boom and sank it. And it's like okay, So then

1614
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:45,199
you look at who get off, the captain get off,

1615
01:34:45,359 --> 01:34:48,239
the crew get off, and the seven people who dined

1616
01:34:48,279 --> 01:34:52,600
in it were if you wanted to think nefarious or

1617
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,600
if you were getting into James Bond or something. They

1618
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,880
were the people who had to go and they went,

1619
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:03,039
you know, And and is that a coincidence? What did people see?

1620
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,079
What did people see that this watter spout is going

1621
01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:10,279
to sink this unsinkablee yacht, you know what I mean?

1622
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 8: And not bother ships one hundred feet away?

1623
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, how fishing boats? How does that? How

1624
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,159
does that happen? I mean, seriously, how does something like

1625
01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:21,279
that happen, especially to that boat at that time?

1626
01:35:22,159 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 8: You know, in that guy's timeline, that time and place.

1627
01:35:25,279 --> 01:35:27,680
Those are the people if like if you were a

1628
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,920
healt packer, those were the people you wanted to see

1629
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,079
go away. Well, we don't want to we don't say that,

1630
01:35:32,199 --> 01:35:37,199
but I want to get sued by hellet packer, but allegedly.

1631
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:41,840
But but the thing was, I read a thing after

1632
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,960
the fact and they said they did autopsis on the

1633
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,000
people that they found on the boat, and they said

1634
01:35:47,039 --> 01:35:48,159
they didn't drown.

1635
01:35:48,279 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 4: They suffocated, that they suffocated. There was no air. Theycated it.

1636
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:53,159
But they were an air.

1637
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 8: Pocket or something, right, and they ran out of air

1638
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,399
but there were no there was no liquid in their lungs.

1639
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 4: Wow, what which go ahead? I mean? Is I mean

1640
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:12,920
there's been cases where you know, I'm trying to you

1641
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,680
know where where people are just oh well, these two

1642
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:20,640
whistleblowers were Boeing, you know, earlier this year. Two of

1643
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:25,720
them whistleblowers talk about Boeing, which they can hardly keep

1644
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,800
any of their aircraft in the air these days. Once

1645
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,479
a unbelievably professional company that you know, you can't believe

1646
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,000
that this kind of stuff would happen to them, but

1647
01:36:34,079 --> 01:36:37,920
he stuff happens. And they came forward and they talked

1648
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,079
about all these safety issues on those airliners are crashed

1649
01:36:41,119 --> 01:36:44,479
and so on. Both of them said, if I die

1650
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:48,159
on the mysterious circumstances, look into it. They both died

1651
01:36:48,199 --> 01:36:53,239
on the mysterious circumstances. So is Boeing allegedly sending out

1652
01:36:53,399 --> 01:36:57,960
sending out you know, like hit men? Is here the packet?

1653
01:36:58,319 --> 01:37:00,920
I mean, is that where we are now? The corporations

1654
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,000
are gonna, you know, go around whacking people they don't

1655
01:37:03,039 --> 01:37:04,159
want or The thing.

1656
01:37:04,039 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 8: With Boeing is one of the guys actually said, if

1657
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:11,920
I will never commit suicide, supposing this is what I read, No, right,

1658
01:37:12,199 --> 01:37:14,079
he said, I will never commit suicide. So if it

1659
01:37:14,279 --> 01:37:17,920
shows up that they say I committed suicide, something's funny.

1660
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:21,640
And the thing with the odds, I mean that that

1661
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,119
goes back to like a James Bond thing where there's

1662
01:37:25,159 --> 01:37:28,680
a satellite up above that can alter the weather and

1663
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,039
just drop on them. I mean, we know about that.

1664
01:37:31,199 --> 01:37:33,920
Well you think so bunch an extra tell us, But

1665
01:37:35,039 --> 01:37:38,800
what are the odds of anywhere in the world that

1666
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:42,720
water spout drops on that boat and that spot everybody

1667
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:47,039
else alone, and then seven people are dead and it's.

1668
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:51,199
Speaker 4: Like seven out of fourteen, it's like seven who it

1669
01:37:51,279 --> 01:37:53,800
is weird. But if they had a weather weapon, I mean,

1670
01:37:54,399 --> 01:37:57,159
the thing about this for a second, Well, if they

1671
01:37:57,159 --> 01:38:03,760
had a weather weapon, is hugh a pack is gonna today? Yeah,

1672
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:04,439
well I don't know.

1673
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,399
Speaker 6: I mean, well everybody's trying to weaponize the weather.

1674
01:38:07,199 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 4: So well yeah, HP, you know, they make better equipment

1675
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,199
than manipulating.

1676
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 6: The one where crewmen are being investigated right now, right

1677
01:38:16,199 --> 01:38:18,119
But they've all gone on the plane, all of them,

1678
01:38:18,319 --> 01:38:20,800
and the survivor's got in a private plane and jetted

1679
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,680
out of sicily like about an hour later.

1680
01:38:23,239 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 4: Okay, so obviously they're getting them out of the spotlight

1681
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,359
and probably get their story straight. But just hey, listen,

1682
01:38:30,359 --> 01:38:34,199
it could be the biggest coincidence in the world. Coincidences happened. Okay,

1683
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:37,319
but boy oh boy, that one kind of smells, you.

1684
01:38:37,279 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 8: Know, yeah, especially since the fishing boats are right there

1685
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,359
looking at him. Yeah, and then they're like, wow, we

1686
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:45,479
saw it come down, we saw it hit it, we

1687
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:46,399
saw the boat sink.

1688
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 4: What's the what are the odds? Maybe it's God. Maybe

1689
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,920
it's God, the finger of God. Maybe he had you

1690
01:38:52,039 --> 01:38:53,880
the packet stock. You don't know.

1691
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:58,359
Speaker 6: Well, two of the crewmen are being represented by Marco

1692
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:02,520
Scopas lawyer based in General, so you know it's not

1693
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,119
gonna be a salami going on there.

1694
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:11,399
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, really so sausages sausage to bring it

1695
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,399
back to sausages. So anyway, you know what we're gonna do.

1696
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,039
We're going to start wrapping up the show now and

1697
01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:22,159
maybe let the listeners hear some music from sky Club.

1698
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,880
So let me just quickly go around. Oh that'd be great.

1699
01:39:26,359 --> 01:39:29,800
I love sky Club. Thank you to you, we all do.

1700
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:36,399
Uh So let's start with switch. Let's start with switch switching.

1701
01:39:37,079 --> 01:39:40,119
Thank you very much for tap dancing tonight for an

1702
01:39:40,159 --> 01:39:43,359
hour and a half. We appreciate, not a problem.

1703
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,199
Speaker 6: He always brings the content he does he does bring.

1704
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,000
He is the content master.

1705
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 17: Right.

1706
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:53,640
Speaker 1: This one tiny thing I left out when I talked

1707
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:58,439
about Charles Marco going to Flint seeing the taro there. Yes,

1708
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,880
I went there a few years ago. Okay, on that

1709
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:07,079
same spot, a little bit, no telepathic messages, nobody dressed

1710
01:40:07,079 --> 01:40:10,319
in you know, no beasts and slouch hats. I was

1711
01:40:10,359 --> 01:40:13,720
a little disappointed, but I thought i'd be a do

1712
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,000
a proper investigation.

1713
01:40:15,239 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 4: Good for you, Switchy. Okay, we appreciate that. Uh, I'm

1714
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:20,359
sure we would have if you were doing this for us.

1715
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:26,720
Thank you, Switching, I appreciate. Also, let's say goodbye to

1716
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,039
club Club. Thank you for joining us tonight.

1717
01:40:31,239 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 9: Well, thank you, I mean thank you for giving us

1718
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,520
a little extra time off tonight.

1719
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:40,520
Speaker 4: That's okay, so we're gonna call you Blacklick Christian. Don't

1720
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,039
watch those those those bumps.

1721
01:40:43,039 --> 01:40:45,159
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, I want to watch Chris Sale.

1722
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,119
Speaker 4: Chris Sale, Chris Sale.

1723
01:40:47,279 --> 01:40:50,399
Speaker 6: Chris Sale is getting this freaking saying that guy.

1724
01:40:50,319 --> 01:40:53,520
Speaker 4: Yes, seventeen million a year, He's getting the cy younger

1725
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:56,359
one and maybe the MVP of the National League. This

1726
01:40:56,399 --> 01:40:59,880
is the guy that the red Solis literally said we'll

1727
01:41:00,079 --> 01:41:02,159
you nineteen million dollars to get rid of him. Now,

1728
01:41:02,199 --> 01:41:04,760
when he was in Boston, he was a malecontent and

1729
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:07,359
he had injury after injury. And maybe it's a wrong

1730
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:10,600
pitching coach, who knows, but wow, what a turnaround with

1731
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:15,000
this freaking guy after Lee's Boston. Unbelievable. He looks good

1732
01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:19,920
and that's never happened before. Well, yeah, comes up with that. Yeah,

1733
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,399
the term why can't we get guys like that? Yeah? Okay,

1734
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:29,159
where's the bambino? Anyway? Thank you club for joining us.

1735
01:41:29,159 --> 01:41:32,079
We appreciate a club. Thank you Black with Licorice. I

1736
01:41:32,199 --> 01:41:33,000
like that club.

1737
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 8: I didn't know we were simpatico with the licorice, but

1738
01:41:35,039 --> 01:41:35,960
I'm glad to hear it.

1739
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:36,680
Speaker 4: It's another show.

1740
01:41:37,039 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, do you have the same you know, symptoms and

1741
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,079
all of you when you know that.

1742
01:41:41,199 --> 01:41:46,279
Speaker 8: I have not noticed, but I i've seen out holding.

1743
01:41:46,079 --> 01:41:51,560
Speaker 1: Up page any evidence she was separated at first.

1744
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:52,359
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1745
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,399
Speaker 9: Thank you club. It's a highly. It's a highly. It's

1746
01:41:57,399 --> 01:41:59,760
got to do with intelligence and all kinds of things.

1747
01:42:00,079 --> 01:42:04,159
Speaker 4: Thanks intelligence, What does that coming to it?

1748
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 10: Al?

1749
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,520
Speaker 9: Thanks anyone else?

1750
01:42:07,239 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, the show's over. Al, thanks adrining, Hey, glad

1751
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,119
to be here. You know it's it's an honor and approval,

1752
01:42:13,239 --> 01:42:17,960
is it really? Yeah? Also, now it's time for us

1753
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,800
to say good night to Susan. Susan, can you tune

1754
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:21,159
light on?

1755
01:42:23,119 --> 01:42:26,640
Speaker 10: I keep turning it on, but it shuts back off.

1756
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 4: It's haunted. Yeah, haunted off.

1757
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:34,159
Speaker 6: He keeps going into intimate mode bows Chinese book.

1758
01:42:34,279 --> 01:42:35,159
Speaker 4: It's a mood light.

1759
01:42:36,159 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 10: I wanted to set the mood from their.

1760
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you Susan for joining us tonight. And I

1761
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:43,880
know that you practically get out of the sick bed

1762
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:45,800
to do it. So we appreciate that.

1763
01:42:47,119 --> 01:42:50,199
Speaker 11: I did, and I would do it anytime. And thank

1764
01:42:50,239 --> 01:42:53,600
you so much for having me. What wonderful company.

1765
01:42:54,039 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 4: Well we might isolate that put the little music on it.

1766
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:58,880
Thank you, Susan. We'll talk to you.

1767
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,399
Speaker 10: Very soon and look forward to it.

1768
01:43:03,039 --> 01:43:03,520
Speaker 4: One one.

1769
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 6: Thank you, You're welcome. My pleasure as always.

1770
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:11,319
Speaker 4: Happy to be here, Okay, happy to be anywhere. Thank

1771
01:43:11,359 --> 01:43:14,880
you for joining us, Hey and Mac, thank you for

1772
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,920
having us. Well there you go. See. No, how often

1773
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,479
do we thank him? Never? Why don't we applaud from that?

1774
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: No?

1775
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,039
Speaker 4: No, don't do what do we applaud from because it's

1776
01:43:23,079 --> 01:43:26,439
another edit I have to put in. That's another eighteen bucks.

1777
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:32,000
He organizes all this, thank you. Yeah. Uh so let's

1778
01:43:32,039 --> 01:43:37,199
get to the plugs. You all know that Apple is

1779
01:43:37,239 --> 01:43:41,600
putting in ads in our podcasts, just kind of randomly

1780
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,960
and stuff like that. There's nothing we can do about it.

1781
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:47,840
Someone has said so, and I've tried this myself. If

1782
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:52,399
you are listening on Apple podcasts, the show on Apple podcasts,

1783
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,399
if they start with ads, just say Alexa, go ahead

1784
01:43:56,399 --> 01:43:58,119
two minutes, and for some reason it brings you to

1785
01:43:58,199 --> 01:43:59,960
the beginning of the show. Maybe the ads are two minutes.

1786
01:44:00,319 --> 01:44:02,520
I don't know. But the best way to do it

1787
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:06,159
is go to podbean dot com. All right, podbean, liketh

1788
01:44:06,319 --> 01:44:09,399
vegetable dot com. There's no ads there, and all of

1789
01:44:09,399 --> 01:44:14,159
our shows are in our archive them. So also to

1790
01:44:14,199 --> 01:44:16,000
homes for our troops. You heard me talk about them

1791
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,520
many many times. They build homes for wounded veterans, people

1792
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,920
who came home from combat after nine to eleven, who

1793
01:44:23,079 --> 01:44:25,359
might be missing limbs and so on. They build homes

1794
01:44:25,359 --> 01:44:28,239
that are adapted to their needs. And then the homes

1795
01:44:28,239 --> 01:44:31,279
are finished, they tear up the mortgage. They give them

1796
01:44:31,279 --> 01:44:33,079
the keys they don't have to worry about having a

1797
01:44:33,079 --> 01:44:35,520
mortgage payment over their heads every month, and they can go, well,

1798
01:44:36,159 --> 01:44:41,479
rejoin society in a kind of normal way. I hate

1799
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,640
to put it that way, but that's what it's all about.

1800
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:45,840
Homes for our troops. These are people who gave a

1801
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,760
lot to us. We should give a lot to them.

1802
01:44:48,039 --> 01:44:51,359
Ninety cents on your charity dollar goes right to our veterans.

1803
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,359
So please google them, see what they're about. John McCain

1804
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,840
was not a loser, folks. He was a war hero,

1805
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,680
a veteran, and a disabled. You do not make fun

1806
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:05,920
of people like that ever. Also look into Project twenty

1807
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,159
twenty five and just see what they're planning to do

1808
01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:12,800
with the veterans. Okay, they're planning to cut their benefits

1809
01:45:13,399 --> 01:45:16,119
off at ten years, all right, and a lot of

1810
01:45:16,159 --> 01:45:20,399
times that people have illnesses and so on that either

1811
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:22,920
come up after ten years or they might come up

1812
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,640
in year six. Well, the only you're going to treat

1813
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:27,840
you for four years and then you're on your own.

1814
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:32,479
If you get a military pension. You cannot get veterans

1815
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,520
benefits any longer. They're going to close a lot of

1816
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:39,760
veterans hospitals and send the veterans to community health centers. Okay,

1817
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,399
in my opinion, that's a disgrace. You do not treat

1818
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,840
veterans like that, and the people behind this should be

1819
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:50,840
ashamed of themselves anyway, until you hear us next time.

1820
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:54,159
This is MAC for the entire gang, saying be safe,

1821
01:45:54,279 --> 01:46:00,159
you happy, and bye bye.

1822
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 18: I'm the only one to blame for this. Somehow, it

1823
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:23,119
all adds up the scene soaring on the wings of pride.

1824
01:46:23,199 --> 01:46:24,079
Speaker 4: I flew too.

1825
01:46:24,119 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 18: High like a recyclice.

1826
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:33,319
Speaker 2: Like life Life Life, Life Line.

1827
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,600
Speaker 18: Can't be held responsible for blown behavior.

1828
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,279
Speaker 12: I lost all contact.

1829
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,279
Speaker 4: With my formerceave you.

1830
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,119
Speaker 12: No one locked me out because I failed to phone up.

1831
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,600
I can't better live forever like Colonna.

1832
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:32,079
Speaker 17: My god, it's easy to be sad when you lack

1833
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:33,039
a partner.

1834
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 12: How would I react to a broken hard Now? It

1835
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:40,640
ain't really true rock and roll unless.

1836
01:47:40,279 --> 01:47:44,279
Speaker 18: Sound hanging on to you when I hold him next time.

1837
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:51,239
Speaker 19: Don't let go the caust, don't let go the cause,

1838
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,199
don't let go the cold.

1839
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:57,359
Speaker 20: Don't let go.

1840
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:39,399
Speaker 7: I'm not putting on them. I'm now going one.

1841
01:48:40,079 --> 01:49:01,039
Speaker 12: It's a nice comment, that's all past. Just don't mind.

1842
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 4: But you want to pay second thing you started?

1843
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 9: So in my life caring down the long way, so they.

1844
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 19: Give them the money, and then some day don't let go,

1845
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:55,000
let go, let go, let go.

1846
01:50:03,239 --> 01:52:36,159
Speaker 3: U m M story to get to.

1847
01:52:37,720 --> 01:53:37,640
Speaker 20: Get to doing.

1848
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 21: It's been so long since I've seen her face. I

1849
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:44,520
play She's to in fine. I still reckcome our sad

1850
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:52,399
last day. How it hurt so bad to see her cry.

1851
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:57,520
I didn't want to say good by.

1852
01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 22: Send him by the Bemise remains, Send him by the

1853
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:14,079
roses never came.

1854
01:56:16,119 --> 01:56:17,199
Speaker 12: Send them by.

1855
01:56:54,079 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 21: Sam Old World, Sam a lost in the sky.

1856
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 22: She needed so much more.

1857
01:57:12,159 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 12: Than I cook him.

1858
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:24,159
Speaker 21: We knew that love cannot returned. A broken hearts can

1859
01:57:24,159 --> 01:57:51,279
alwad Man.

1860
01:57:52,159 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 18: I was hurt so bad to see her crime.

1861
01:57:59,479 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 12: I didn't wall to say good bye.

1862
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:15,079
Speaker 22: Send them my love. Mambley's remain, Send him my love,

1863
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:22,479
Roses themble game, Send them my love.