Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to Private Talk.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, I'm so glad to be here. Yes,
Speaker 2: me too.
Speaker 1: It's like one of those things, it's like I know
Speaker 1: you through other people, but I don't know you, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to get my Private Talk listeners out there
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit more intimately as well,
Speaker 1: so I needed to have you on here. But yes,
Speaker 1: tell us about yourself. You're an adult entertainer superstar. I
Speaker 1: have been around for a very long time, and I
Speaker 1: love that you have that energy still about you. You're
Speaker 1: super like, youthful, you look very to the point where
Speaker 1: you still enjoy what you do, which is really hard
Speaker 1: sometimes when being in an industry such as ours, is
Speaker 1: because people get jaded, people have bad experiences and everybody.
Speaker 2: What I like is that it's.
Speaker 1: Uniquely different for everybody, you know, even with their interactions
Speaker 1: with people, like you know, it's human nature to not
Speaker 1: always like people or to be more chemically attracted to
Speaker 1: them sexually, and that comes out on film, you know, naturally.
Speaker 1: So tell us about all those things mystering.
Speaker 2: Well, I am sure, Deville. I have been in the
Speaker 2: adult entertainment industry for a little for eleven years now,
Speaker 2: which even saying out loud feels crazy. That is a
Speaker 2: long in our industry, that's a pretty good tenure, you know,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: And that's why I say, like it's you're so so happy.
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking before you know we started, and
Speaker 1: you're just like talking how you're still working for companies
Speaker 1: and a lot of people either don't or you know,
Speaker 1: go different places in their life that doesn't, but you
Speaker 1: seem like you're still like as happy as day one.
Speaker 2: To me, this is an amazing job. Like I've loved
Speaker 2: it right from the beginning. And and like you said,
Speaker 2: a lot of people have, you know, a wide variety
Speaker 2: of experiences. But for me, I'm you know, I got
Speaker 2: into the industry in my mid thirties, so I don't
Speaker 2: feel like I made some of the the mistakes that
Speaker 2: maybe some of the younger people have made, or that
Speaker 2: I would have made when I'm younger. You know, I
Speaker 2: while I was easing my way into the industry, I
Speaker 2: had another job, so I never have depended on this
Speaker 2: fully for my income, which I think does a lot
Speaker 2: of things in including allow you to make whatever choices
Speaker 2: you want to make in your heart without having money
Speaker 2: be an issue at all. You know, people choosing how
Speaker 2: many scenes they want to do a month, what partners
Speaker 2: they want to have, what sexual acts they want to perform.
Speaker 2: A lot of times, when money becomes a really big issue,
Speaker 2: those lines can get a little blurry. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: I can't pay my rent, and I guess I could
Speaker 2: do this, you know, And I feel like those small
Speaker 2: decisions can add up to make sort of an unhappy person,
Speaker 2: a person that might feel jaded, a person that might
Speaker 2: not feel the level of autonomy that I've been blessed
Speaker 2: to be able to feel. So my kind of trajectory
Speaker 2: in this job has been different than some because when
Speaker 2: I was too new to make a lot of money,
Speaker 2: I had another job, you know, and then slowly kind
Speaker 2: of eased out of physical therapy and eased more into
Speaker 2: adult work as it felt appropriate and emotionally comfortable. So
Speaker 2: I think that's why I still can perform happily. For sure.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things that I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: eating with myself I started when I was twenty one,
Speaker 1: But I always said, you know, even the difference between
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty one is quite a difference of not
Speaker 1: necessarily age per se by you know, the number wise,
Speaker 1: but as far as like experience and things that you're
Speaker 1: willing to do or be persuaded to think. You know,
Speaker 1: because we are already in the sexual industry, and it's
Speaker 1: not that we not necessarily that wouldn't say care about,
Speaker 1: but we want to glorify certain things about ourself or
Speaker 1: we find things that we like, you know about it,
Speaker 1: and that's right for me. I discovered my sexuality, as
Speaker 1: you know, in my twenties, but I could see at
Speaker 1: that age also how manipulative some things could go. Or
Speaker 1: if it starts to deteriorate, you're like, oh, well, I
Speaker 1: do need this fourth scene or I do need to
Speaker 1: make this whatever, and then it starts to become a
Speaker 1: ripple effect of where do those lines cross and where
Speaker 1: are your no list? And yesnest and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And also big important things as agents, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Agents who you who has who
Speaker 1: are on your side and who's fighting advocating for you
Speaker 1: is a big thing too. And someone who makes you
Speaker 1: feel that it's actually there were working for you and
Speaker 1: they're not working. It's not the other way around. And
Speaker 1: for a long time, I feel like there was a
Speaker 1: disconnect in the industry because of those things. And I'm
Speaker 1: glad to happy, happily to see things kind of change
Speaker 1: and still be agents and still be you know, big
Speaker 1: you know, contenders in the industry and in the adult
Speaker 1: industry and still have women as yourself. And like with me,
Speaker 1: I never had a bad experience in my agency. It
Speaker 1: was always you know, there was other rumors and things
Speaker 1: like that going wrong. But for me, per se my
Speaker 1: individual path and when I had a great you know
Speaker 1: career and people were very respectful if it's because I
Speaker 1: was you know, married earlier on in a performer who
Speaker 1: they respected or just respected me, you know, And I
Speaker 1: feel like it does kind of for me personally gave
Speaker 1: me more strength to do more scenes because and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I feel like power. I feel like it felt such
Speaker 1: a like a gratifying you know exchange to you know,
Speaker 1: show people. That's why I say it's one orgasm. It's
Speaker 1: helping people one orgasm at a time. So it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Well, you probably respected yourself, and I feel like people
Speaker 2: can read that, you know, you'll have you know, I'm
Speaker 2: just going to use word predators. There are people in
Speaker 2: this industry and in all industries who are going to
Speaker 2: take advantage of people, whether it's financially, sexually, you know,
Speaker 2: and and there were bad people even in physical therapy.
Speaker 2: But it's really based on the person's attitude. You were
Speaker 2: probably never a prey animal, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: You probably had something that people are like. I usually
Speaker 1: my mother would say, you have a really great resting
Speaker 1: budch face, And I'm like, it's because I like to
Speaker 1: deter people to come up to me for bullshit. If
Speaker 1: you want to break down that be listing bitch face.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to talk to anybody. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: also you know, how you navigate through business, and you know,
Speaker 1: and what we do is a business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you take it as a business, and
Speaker 2: if you hold yourself like a business woman, then people
Speaker 2: treat you like that. You know, even you hear bad
Speaker 2: things about all agencies. You know, this rum or, that
Speaker 2: room or whatever rumor. But I've had nothing but an
Speaker 2: amazing experience. But I also demand an amazing ex experience.
Speaker 2: And if someone isn't going to give me the experience
Speaker 2: I need, I'm going to move on for sure. You know,
Speaker 2: knowing your boundaries.
Speaker 1: I like that, like Khodose to you, that's strong to
Speaker 1: have because especially you know, we get so ridiculed with
Speaker 1: social media and all these other things, like these other
Speaker 1: atmospheres that don't really we didn't really have before where
Speaker 1: it's like not that they weren't as adamant and like
Speaker 1: there was forums like porn hub has, you know, all
Speaker 1: those things or everyone. I was like, I know, there's
Speaker 1: another one that I can remember, But for me, it
Speaker 1: was I never really like in the beginning, I kind
Speaker 1: of looked here and there, but I didn't like to
Speaker 1: like like fixate on the negative because I was having
Speaker 1: a good experience.
Speaker 2: It was about what.
Speaker 1: I felt and I didn't care if anybody watched it
Speaker 1: because I still got paid. Until later on in my
Speaker 1: career did I like really get into the people watching it.
Speaker 1: And then getting in like sexually turned onto that part.
Speaker 1: So it was like levels to unlocking my sexuality, which
Speaker 1: I feel like also why it helped me have the
Speaker 1: career that I did and I didn't. I also do
Speaker 1: things that I didn't want you or I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like I was ready to. It's not that I didn't
Speaker 1: want to or feel like I was ready to step
Speaker 1: we do because my biggest thing in the business was,
Speaker 1: oh what do you do or what you don't do,
Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, just wait, give it time,
Speaker 1: you'll do everything. And I thought offended to that because
Speaker 1: of the fact, like maybe it's true for some people
Speaker 1: and maybe you known cuiche you know, like kudos, but
Speaker 1: I feel like it was like almost like oh, you'll lose,
Speaker 1: You're gonna give your soul away, or like you're just
Speaker 1: for money. What dollar amount can I flash in your
Speaker 1: face to do this? And if I wanted to have
Speaker 1: the free reign of if I wanted that dollar or
Speaker 1: not that like you said before, the money dollar denomination,
Speaker 1: didn't matter what you were doing, you would do it
Speaker 1: regardless because you wanted to do it. So it took
Speaker 1: that away. So for me, I was just like, no,
Speaker 1: fuck you, I'm not gonna do anything. You know what
Speaker 1: I do? You know what I mean, just because and
Speaker 1: I just took that stance. But right or wrong, but
Speaker 1: that's just my you know how I feel like me personally,
Speaker 1: I had to guard myself because it's like, what do
Speaker 1: you think we're doing? You know, we do it because
Speaker 1: we want to do it. We show up, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's you know, when you're ready, when you're emotionally ready,
Speaker 2: when you're physically ready, you know, whatever that means to
Speaker 2: each I think you're right. It doesn't matter what the
Speaker 2: fans think, it doesn't matter what your agent think, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what your peers are doing. If you're not
Speaker 2: happy doing what you're doing, one, it's gonna show on film.
Speaker 2: And two that's the stuff that I think does create
Speaker 2: internal problems. You know. And again, this is not just porn.
Speaker 2: It's not just because we're having sex. It's yeah, any business.
Speaker 2: If you're you know, taking shit from your boss and
Speaker 2: doing things that you don't want to do, that's not
Speaker 2: true to you, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Saying true to you. So what kind of scenes do
Speaker 1: you love to do? I know what you're known for
Speaker 1: in all your fans leve, but what kind of scenes
Speaker 1: do you know that year it's like just your favorite
Speaker 1: when you're gonna, you know, decide to do that scene.
Speaker 2: For me, I have the most fun with unscripted romantic
Speaker 2: like I want to get to know like your soul,
Speaker 2: you know, I want you to look into my eyes.
Speaker 2: I want to like feel your presence. And sometimes when
Speaker 2: you have an overscripted scene, you're so at least not
Speaker 2: not you, but like For me, I'm so in my
Speaker 2: head going what would this character say, what would this
Speaker 2: character think? How would this character fuck? You know, keeping
Speaker 2: that storyline through the sex, Well, the sex can be
Speaker 2: really good if my mind is twenty percent somewhere else,
Speaker 2: it's twenty percent somewhere else. But if you free me
Speaker 2: of that, then I feel like those are my most
Speaker 2: likely beautiful Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: What kind of scenes, what kind of companies like that?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like, for me, I didn't do what
Speaker 1: it sounds like, because I didn't watch.
Speaker 2: Any of your scenes.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know what I mean till nothing. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's my own sexual fantasies actually, But so like, do
Speaker 1: you do a lot of role playing type of things,
Speaker 1: like like that's like no scenario type things, because like
Speaker 1: for me, like, oh yeah, in my work, I did
Speaker 1: more gonzo of like what you're kind of exactly, So
Speaker 1: like I did do a cameo here and there, but
Speaker 1: I never in my mind, And it's great that you're
Speaker 1: a great performer obviously that you think like that, but
Speaker 1: to fuck like whoever you're fucking in the movie, because
Speaker 1: I for me, it was always like how I fucked?
Speaker 1: Because you're hiring me now? That's probably why I never
Speaker 1: got hired for those.
Speaker 2: Roles of those movies. They're just like, you know how
Speaker 2: to fuck Alexis go and fuck.
Speaker 1: You don't need a script.
Speaker 2: We don't need any.
Speaker 1: Of that because I like, I'm very freestyle, Like my
Speaker 1: show is freestyle. I mean, I have, you know, basis
Speaker 1: of things I want to get to know, but it's
Speaker 1: freestyle and have a conversation and vibe. Like you said,
Speaker 1: there's sometimes you have your porno boyfriend you see a
Speaker 1: lot on set, or the times that you don't see
Speaker 1: someone and you're just so like you have good chemistry,
Speaker 1: but just like like seeing long lost lover, you know
Speaker 1: it kind of it's one of those things. So it's
Speaker 1: cool to have that, But I never had that that
Speaker 1: that thinking, I guess of whatever.
Speaker 2: So I feel like part of my main role and
Speaker 2: porn that I've been put into and that I've carried
Speaker 2: on with my own content because the fan base is
Speaker 2: there is like a highly fetishized mommy, stepmommy older woman role,
Speaker 2: and that is predominantly a femdom role. You know, in
Speaker 2: whatever way it's presented, whether Mommy's taking care of you
Speaker 2: in a nurturing way, whether mommy's punishing you whether you know,
Speaker 2: whatever that older woman is doing, it's usually she's in
Speaker 2: control and you're being taken along for the ride. So
Speaker 2: that's my professional world. It's like, did you have that
Speaker 2: in your real personal I'm a total sub Yeah, I
Speaker 2: am the subbiest subct to me.
Speaker 1: But that makes more sense to me. And maybe because
Speaker 1: I'm kind of that way myself. Is because you're playing
Speaker 1: a role. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like you're
Speaker 1: not that twenty four to seven. This is like part
Speaker 1: of who you are for work, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so it's it's easier or it was easier for
Speaker 1: me to be like Alexis Texas is a badass bitch
Speaker 1: and this is what it is. But I I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm still dominant in my personal life, but I like
Speaker 1: to be I like to get to that level of being,
Speaker 1: like being let to be submissive because I don't want
Speaker 1: to be in control of everything in life. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: hard work out of here.
Speaker 2: Well, especially in scenes as a milf, Like I'm deciding
Speaker 2: the positions, I'm running the dialogue through the scene. Like
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, so I just tell me what to
Speaker 2: do and I want to be the teen and have
Speaker 2: like one pair of cotton panties and get thrown a
Speaker 2: thank you. That'd be awesome. That's because like I'm buying
Speaker 2: like three piece laundries. That's all this money spun.
Speaker 1: Someone ends up, Yeah, that's crazy. I it was funny
Speaker 1: because I had Tanya Tate on the show, and I like,
Speaker 1: I like, I get I laugh uncontrollably. Sometimes yes, I smugle,
Speaker 1: and that helps too with for other things. But when
Speaker 1: I get nervous, not nervous, but like awkward. Like so
Speaker 1: I was like, if someone would tell me to do
Speaker 1: a mommy thing, like I would laugh because I was
Speaker 1: asking her what's the scenario because I was like, what's
Speaker 1: just And not that it's weird because I get everybody's fetishes,
Speaker 1: but for me to be enrolled, like you're saying like
Speaker 1: the character and like making that makes sense, I'm like
Speaker 1: I would laugh. Like I was like, how would you?
Speaker 1: I'm like, give us a scenario? Like tell us when
Speaker 1: so I was like if someone told me that, I'm
Speaker 1: like I woul laugh, So can you give us a scenario?
Speaker 1: When I were you're a little teaser.
Speaker 2: I feel like something that I do a lot is
Speaker 2: like like kind mommy, like like to my steps and
Speaker 2: so maybe I'd be like, hey, baby, how are you
Speaker 2: doing today? And there's like a normal thing going on.
Speaker 2: Maybe we're in the kitchen and I'm cooking, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, darling, do you do you have an erection?
Speaker 2: Are you looking at mommy and getting it? Well? I
Speaker 2: can't send you out of the house like that, that
Speaker 2: would be completely inappropriate. How are you going to focus
Speaker 2: on your school work with a raging erections? So, you know,
Speaker 2: just for his own good, I take care of that
Speaker 2: erection like a good step mom.
Speaker 1: Wand I love that and the fact that you can
Speaker 1: stay with this straight face. I love it because I
Speaker 1: mean again, I envy people like that because like I'm
Speaker 1: a role player of things, but that there's just certain
Speaker 1: things I'm like I would laugh like I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: laugh for but I think that it's just it's a
Speaker 1: great like community to be in there because it's very
Speaker 1: loyal because they want to be told men when to
Speaker 1: be told what to do as much as they don't
Speaker 1: want to be told what to do. So is that
Speaker 1: one of your number one like customs out there like
Speaker 1: that they like request is those types of things or
Speaker 1: do you what are some other things that people are
Speaker 1: wanting for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of a lot of gentle femdom, a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, I feel like, and it's our
Speaker 2: culture is changing, but I feel like, at least with
Speaker 2: my generation and older, men were really expected to be dominant,
Speaker 2: to make the first move, to get the woman to
Speaker 2: pay for the date. You know, that's a lot of
Speaker 2: dominant characteristics. But of course men are not inherently dominant
Speaker 2: and women are not inherently submissive. So I think that
Speaker 2: left a lot of men feeling that they needed to
Speaker 2: do these things that might not be within their personality,
Speaker 2: and that's I feel like that traps a lot of people.
Speaker 2: So I think the fantasy of having a woman take
Speaker 2: over those responsibilities. No, you don't have to flirt with me.
Speaker 2: I'm going to come on to you sexually. I'm going
Speaker 2: to use you, I'm going to tell you what I want.
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring this whole sexual experience to you,
Speaker 2: and in fact, I might even seduce you. So it's
Speaker 2: not even your fault whatever happens next. I'm taking all
Speaker 2: the blame. I'm taking all the responsibility, and like to
Speaker 2: men in our culture, it seems like that can be
Speaker 2: a really freeing experience.
Speaker 1: Because I also think it taps into, like, you know,
Speaker 1: the psychological part of it. It's like you want things
Speaker 1: that you don't have in the sense, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because I'm sure at home, like you said,
Speaker 1: the people in life to show up.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's not like we're talking about how we're the opposite
Speaker 1: and in our porna life to real life. You know.
Speaker 1: It's how you show up and how you want to be.
Speaker 1: Sometimes don't always aren't the same of seeing those things.
Speaker 1: So it's like I want someone to pass me around
Speaker 1: and you know what, Yeah, I don't have to see her,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, unless I want to see
Speaker 1: And a lot of.
Speaker 2: Men want to get complimented sexually, want to get you sexually,
Speaker 2: want to be objectified sexually. They don't always want to
Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, on this date, you look
Speaker 2: so pretty. You're that you you you you you like?
Speaker 2: What about me? You know? Well, maybe maybe I can
Speaker 2: be the subject of a fantasy and it's not always
Speaker 2: about the woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's always about me.
Speaker 2: It is always about me.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe not me, but my booty for sure, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was like, you went to
Speaker 1: a ruin and I wonder if I'm like, they even
Speaker 1: know this is here. Sometimes just kidding, but at one
Speaker 1: point in my life I did that. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I do have a face, guys, because every box cover
Speaker 1: that's how I am. But I was like, hey, turn
Speaker 1: around and then like this one. I think it was
Speaker 1: actually probably three that I can think of with my face.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you sure you're not going to
Speaker 1: get in trouble that you don't want to see my ass?
Speaker 2: I'm winning really turned the other way. I like it.
Speaker 2: My God.
Speaker 1: So you said you started, you know, in the industry
Speaker 1: a lot later on in life. Was there people that
Speaker 1: you looked up to or you watched porn or were
Speaker 1: you always just a sexual person? Do you have any
Speaker 1: mentors in the industry.
Speaker 2: I was more of a swinger, so I did a
Speaker 2: lot of uh. I went to swingers clubs. I like
Speaker 2: lived that whole like scene. I've always been a bit
Speaker 2: of an exhibitionist. I've always liked variety.
Speaker 1: So do you live that in your personal life as well?
Speaker 2: Not anymore, because it's not safe. To me. Everyone makes
Speaker 2: their own choices, but to me, living the swinger lifestyle
Speaker 2: that I did pre porn would be disrespectful to my
Speaker 2: colleagues because there's just the testing just isn't there, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And I think like making those
Speaker 2: risky choices and then bringing those choices onto set just
Speaker 2: for my at the cultival would not be the way.
Speaker 2: But but I love that, and I feel like porn
Speaker 2: was like almost the next evolution of that. And when
Speaker 2: I first started, I didn't I was absolutely positive it
Speaker 2: would not be my career. It was just like I've
Speaker 2: been offered this opportunity and like, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: could do a porn Like that's crazy. I want to
Speaker 2: be eighty years old telling my nieces like, yeah, look
Speaker 2: what you know, Auntie's wild when she was younger. Like
Speaker 2: I thought it would be like telling people I went
Speaker 2: skydiving once upon a time. But I loved it. I
Speaker 2: came and I did my weakest scenes and I'm like,
Speaker 2: that was really fucking fun, and and I got to
Speaker 2: like experience things I wouldn't have even felt safe experiencing
Speaker 2: in the swingers club, you know, like having a gang
Speaker 2: bang full of like amazing male performers that all know
Speaker 2: what they're doing that are throwing me around that are
Speaker 2: super tested, super safe. I'm in an observed environment, like
Speaker 2: I can live out these fantasies in a way that
Speaker 2: my type A neurotic self feels like really safe about,
Speaker 2: which made me go even crazier because the safer and
Speaker 2: more comfortable you feel, yeah, you're just there for it.
Speaker 2: So porn ended up being an insane outlet for me
Speaker 2: to try out all this stuff. I don't think I
Speaker 2: would have had the guts, if I'm being really honest
Speaker 2: about myself, to try otherwise. And I got addicted to it,
Speaker 2: and I kept coming back to LA and finally I
Speaker 2: moved here, and then eventually I'm like, you're really this
Speaker 2: is your career, bitch, Like you m around.
Speaker 1: And realize that you have all these scenes.
Speaker 2: Keep doing it, like you're obviously so doing this, So
Speaker 2: like now what are you going to do about that?
Speaker 2: Like you're you've done it, you know you we've taken
Speaker 2: the social stigma, you've embraced all of this. You'd be
Speaker 2: an idiot to not try and make a career out
Speaker 2: of this. So that's when it became from a lark
Speaker 2: to a business, and I got serious about networking, marketing,
Speaker 2: driving traffic, getting my own sites, you know, creating my
Speaker 2: own content, doing my own stuff, and not just being
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna work paycheck to paycheck and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be fine for three years. Yeah, yeah, nice.
Speaker 1: That's cool though. I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't have a so called plan like you said, you know,
Speaker 1: even myself. I feel like I got in when I
Speaker 1: was twenty one, still young, and then before I knew it,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, it's five years, like what are
Speaker 1: you doing? You know, and then you think about it
Speaker 1: and then you go on the next thing and whatever.
Speaker 1: So it's really cool. I feel like to advocate for
Speaker 1: people and to see like, you know that it could
Speaker 1: be people are financially smart, You're in a great place,
Speaker 1: you know, even if it was older or you being
Speaker 1: you know, you're such I hear one thing about you,
Speaker 1: then your name. I feel like I said, I've heard
Speaker 1: from other people, but it's always been positive. It's always
Speaker 1: been you know, people talk about you, ask about you.
Speaker 1: Your very your energy is very bright, and so it's
Speaker 1: always been like I said, I haven't known you, but
Speaker 1: it's like I kind of knew you. So I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, when those those people, it's cool to come
Speaker 1: and sit here and talk to me about your story.
Speaker 2: So I'm also excited to be here too, because I
Speaker 2: remember you probably don't remember this because you were like
Speaker 2: so famous already the time, but you came in to
Speaker 2: do like some sort of I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was flashlight or another toy promo. As I was leaving
Speaker 2: set and everyone's like, oh, like it's coming to set
Speaker 2: and she's gonna take some photos of everyone else. That's
Speaker 2: a cutter bath, Like I wonderful see her and like,
Speaker 2: and I think I was like hi, and I laughed,
Speaker 2: You're like hi, but I was so nervous. I should
Speaker 2: kid people.
Speaker 1: I feel like a gosso like with me the whole
Speaker 1: thing about the resting bitch, and people are getting intimidated
Speaker 1: by me and all your fame too. But I feel like, well,
Speaker 1: at least I feel like because I'm me obviously, but
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't give off that way. But
Speaker 1: I also do conceee people's like stand offish. It's just
Speaker 1: because I don't talk to like everybody as bubbly as me.
Speaker 1: But it takes me a minute.
Speaker 2: To warm up.
Speaker 1: Go figure, I have private talk, but you know, it
Speaker 1: takes me a while to like warm up to getting
Speaker 1: into like what I really want to say, or feel
Speaker 1: comfortable to even having conversations because I also feel an
Speaker 1: not being an asshole. But it's like some people I
Speaker 1: feel like don't even want to, Like I don't like
Speaker 1: to have unnecessary conversations because if you're not willing to
Speaker 1: listen to me, and I'm not saying that I'm telling
Speaker 1: you what to do, but if I know that you're
Speaker 1: not engaging with me and you're just like having a
Speaker 1: filler conversation, I'm cool too, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I can save my energy for something else that isn't
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 2: Or if you're just trying to get something from me
Speaker 2: or exactly and especially when you're like, you know, there
Speaker 2: is a whorarchy and when you're at the top.
Speaker 1: A whole, well there a horror.
Speaker 2: We say that there isn't, but there is. And when
Speaker 2: you're at the top of that, you do have to
Speaker 2: kind of wonder if this person is talking to you
Speaker 2: because they like you and thought you were nice, because
Speaker 2: they're trying to get something from you, because you know,
Speaker 2: so you do have to be a little more protective
Speaker 2: of self otherwise you're gonna waste a lot of time
Speaker 2: for people that don't want Yeah you, yeah, that was definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have some of my best friends you know,
Speaker 1: or in the industry, but it's also that was the
Speaker 1: one comment I think that made us kind of all close.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure like you could say the same thing
Speaker 1: with you and Danny is your closest friend where it's
Speaker 1: like you have similar stories or like because you're relate
Speaker 1: to each other, so you're like, oh, I get that.
Speaker 1: I'm not. It's not just me, like it seems like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, okay, I get it.
Speaker 2: Like the girls you come up with, like yeah, you
Speaker 2: kind of are at the same time story exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a bond you know, that's
Speaker 1: created over time. It's just like only you really get
Speaker 1: to know that, like what that feels like, or what
Speaker 1: that put that what's that put that stigma on you?
Speaker 1: And so much people you know, come at us all
Speaker 1: the time. So it's cool to see women supporting women
Speaker 1: and all this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and I know we're talking a lot about
Speaker 2: the female performers, but it does and I have male
Speaker 2: performer friends as well, but it does feel like the
Speaker 2: people that get the most business advice, from the most inspiration,
Speaker 2: from the most you know, ideas about what I want
Speaker 2: to do next, or the other women. It seems for me.
Speaker 1: Well because I feel like it's such a parallel where
Speaker 1: it's like we can relate so much where it's not
Speaker 1: that the men we can't relate to on the work side,
Speaker 1: but as internally as women what we do on the
Speaker 1: softer side and you know, and implementating in our real
Speaker 1: life and like what works for us and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And the social stigma is very different from male performers
Speaker 2: and even now than it is for female performers.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like I am. I'm a big advocate
Speaker 1: of breaking those walls down and being the first of
Speaker 1: things like I don't like the word no. I feel
Speaker 1: like we get a lot of people, you know, turn
Speaker 1: us down, and it's like porn doesn't define me. It's
Speaker 1: just a part of who we are. And I feel
Speaker 1: like people think that it's like where there's more to us,
Speaker 1: there's more steps into that. And that's why I love
Speaker 1: having my podcast is because it's like having real conversations
Speaker 1: and knowing that yes we like to fuck, yes we
Speaker 1: like to do all this stuff for your enjoyment. But
Speaker 1: I also have a brain. I have, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of things that I do.
Speaker 2: Everybody likes to fuck. We just happened to film this.
Speaker 2: Just talk about that doesn't mean it's all that everyone
Speaker 2: who has sex is about. You know, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So I have a question for you. So, going into
Speaker 1: starting the business later on in life, you're already like
Speaker 1: setting you know who you are as a woman. You know,
Speaker 1: thirty is you know round number to where you've like,
Speaker 1: you know, fuck you, I've done them?
Speaker 2: Whatever?
Speaker 1: Did any was it hard to integrate coming into porn
Speaker 1: in your personal life people? Did you lose friends or
Speaker 1: family or anything like that was like hard, you know,
Speaker 1: hardships that came about that.
Speaker 2: There were definitely hard conversations, but everyone that was important
Speaker 2: to me came around, if that makes sense. Uh. Friend wise,
Speaker 2: I've always been a little wild, So I can't imagine
Speaker 2: having a close friend who would have even been surprised
Speaker 2: by like yeah, surprise, like because it's surprising even to me,
Speaker 2: but not like whoa you know, like I can't believe
Speaker 2: Shari is like you know, it's like, uh, yeah, we
Speaker 2: all kind of saw that coming, didn't we. After that,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I think a lot of I think what
Speaker 2: I there. The most feedback I got from friends and
Speaker 2: family was like shock and then just curiosity like oh
Speaker 2: what's this?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Oh what's that like? Like you know, all the questions
Speaker 2: that I was curious about. So yeah, more more like, oh,
Speaker 2: can you tell me about this secret world that we
Speaker 2: don't get to peek into. Yes.
Speaker 1: So, if you had advice for someone who was newly
Speaker 1: getting into the industry, what would you give.
Speaker 2: That's such a good thing. I would say, go at
Speaker 2: your own pace, make sure that the people on your
Speaker 2: team work for you. Always make your own decisions based
Speaker 2: on how you feel. And in today's day and age,
Speaker 2: even if you have no name at all, even if
Speaker 2: you have one social media follower, start building your own content,
Speaker 2: even if you're not able to drive the traffic right
Speaker 2: now to monetize it. I am so glad that I've
Speaker 2: been shooting content my entire career, even before it was
Speaker 2: particularly valuable to me because I have thousands of my
Speaker 2: own scenes, and even if I were to just throw
Speaker 2: them all away on tube sites and they all made
Speaker 2: one dollar a day, that's enough at this point, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So that's the big piece of advice, like,
Speaker 2: it's really nice to work for companies and get that
Speaker 2: fat paycheck and put it in your bank account. But
Speaker 2: until things change and we get residuals, y'all, are your
Speaker 2: own residuals. If you want, great, If you just want
Speaker 2: to do this for five years and bank some money
Speaker 2: and go on to another career, fine, But if you
Speaker 2: want this time to get you into your nineties, you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to have residual income. And in order to
Speaker 2: do that, you have to own your content.
Speaker 1: So own your content. You heard what she said, and
Speaker 1: I test to believe that. I feel like that's the
Speaker 1: biggest thing, especially nowadays with all the social media things
Speaker 1: that have turned into money making you know, content providers,
Speaker 1: even from viewing to all that stuff. It's like, it's
Speaker 1: important to own. Ownership is the number one.
Speaker 2: And you can flex it onto the next platform. Okay,
Speaker 2: we were all making compilation DVDs and had our own
Speaker 2: you know, dot coms back in the day, and then
Speaker 2: we were on clips stores, and then maybe we're on Snapchat,
Speaker 2: and then we were on you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's it doesn't matter where that content goes. I've put
Speaker 2: it a million different places as the landscape of porn changes,
Speaker 2: but I still own it. And also like, do your paperwork,
Speaker 2: because honestly, if I really wanted to flex, I think
Speaker 2: ten people have paperwork for my scenes. If I really
Speaker 2: wanted to flex, I could have it part nowadays, if
Speaker 2: I was a cunt, I could have it all taken
Speaker 2: down and own it all exclusively.
Speaker 1: Like what that's important because people don't realize and you're
Speaker 1: just like then they're like, hey, where's that model release?
Speaker 1: And then you could be like, oh, I have I'm
Speaker 1: not giving it to you.
Speaker 2: When only fans started asking for stuff, like people came
Speaker 2: out of the woodwork like, oh do you have the paperwork? Oh?
Speaker 2: Can you fill out the paperwork? And like people I
Speaker 2: liked like I got back to and people I didn't,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I guess I didn't get that email. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: You know what happened to it? Now? Yeah, now you know?
Speaker 2: Now you know I ghosted you. You heard it your verse.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like you should be responsible, Like you
Speaker 1: took the time to do your own things, so why
Speaker 1: should you backdate whatever.
Speaker 2: Now accidents happened, But like you said, if the accident happened,
Speaker 2: but I gave you paperwork. You spent twenty minutes filling
Speaker 2: out my paperwork. We knew it was whatever. You know?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Have you ever what is one of the craziest stories
Speaker 1: that you've had on set, maybe to yourself personally or
Speaker 1: other people that you saw and thing.
Speaker 2: I feel like some of my craziest things are like
Speaker 2: things that I've pushed myself to do, Like like, I
Speaker 2: wanted a really beautiful solo when I was with this
Speaker 2: production company in New Zealand, and they were like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's gonna want to do it, and
Speaker 2: none of the other girls wanted to do it. But
Speaker 2: it's a two and a half hour hike that you'd
Speaker 2: have to do in full hair and makeup, carrying your wardrobe.
Speaker 2: Everyone else would have to carry the gear, and then
Speaker 2: we would walk up to a glacier which is cold,
Speaker 2: extremely fucking cold. But I saw pictures of it and
Speaker 2: it was gorgeous. So I decided in my head, I'm like, look,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a really uncomfortable day today, but you're
Speaker 2: gonna love this content for years and years to come.
Speaker 2: So I did it, you know, And I feel like
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of things like that. Where I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to masturbate in twenty degree weather after
Speaker 2: a two hour hike hard.
Speaker 1: Was it really cold?
Speaker 2: It was really cold?
Speaker 1: Was it worth it?
Speaker 2: It was really worth it. The content is gorgeous.
Speaker 1: It's mental. It's a mental game. Like you said, if
Speaker 1: you were like halfway and then you're like nan doing it,
Speaker 1: you'd be like fuck this amement, but you were like
Speaker 1: into knowing what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I feel like a lot of like the
Speaker 2: wildest things I've done, I've been kind of like prepared for,
Speaker 2: you know, like I did a gang bang in the
Speaker 2: Mojave Desert, like doing my anal prep and a trailer,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like but I knew what
Speaker 2: I was getting into, but I was like, but the.
Speaker 1: Scene, but the scene right, yeah, yeah, that's that's technically
Speaker 1: really hot, no fun intended. That's awesome though.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 1: I like that you push yourself and it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: like something that's like that you can't do, ok, you
Speaker 1: can't like feel like you can succeed.
Speaker 2: But I think part of it is like I used
Speaker 2: to be like a marathon runner and stuff like that, so.
Speaker 1: You're just straight, you know, like kind of like to push.
Speaker 2: My physical boundaries. I am the next questionionist.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, so you're just always ready for Like
Speaker 1: that's a really great like thing to have just is
Speaker 1: a person because I feel like there's so many people
Speaker 1: afraid to do like push those limits. And so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you know, even for like bond Like
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily sexualize pain, but I love doing a
Speaker 2: bondage scene. Okay, part of it is the endorphins. I'm
Speaker 2: a huge adrenaline junkie, and part of it is to
Speaker 2: see what my body can do, Like what can this
Speaker 2: form withstand? What can this body? I couldn't do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was like your threshold? That was like kind
Speaker 1: of sent you were like I can't finish the scene
Speaker 1: or I can't do whatever a situation put yourself into.
Speaker 2: I think they're all different because I've definitely called red
Speaker 2: on a few different occasions, whether it's like too much
Speaker 2: impact or I've been upside down too long, or something
Speaker 2: ends up pinching too much. But like I feel like
Speaker 2: if I hadn't done those things, I would never know
Speaker 2: what I was capable of, if that makes sense, And
Speaker 2: there's like a joy in that. I know not everyone
Speaker 2: feels that way. But there's like a huge joy in
Speaker 2: that for me, in a huge sense of accomplishment, like
Speaker 2: just with my marathon running, Like I don't need to
Speaker 2: go run marathons anymore, but I had to know if
Speaker 2: I could make this body do that.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see your bucket list. I mean, it
Speaker 1: has to be some crazy things on the list, because
Speaker 1: I mean, again, it's one of those things that I've
Speaker 1: had friends like, you know, do you know here and
Speaker 1: there but just to the extreme all the time, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I yeah.
Speaker 2: But I think my adrenaline junkiness is what brought me
Speaker 2: to Poorn. It's like the endorphins, the vibe, the energy,
Speaker 2: the intensity like that.
Speaker 1: Not an addiction, because I do see like three I'll
Speaker 1: seek on certain other things, just not one hundred throttle
Speaker 1: all the way on the max. You know, I'm a
Speaker 1: little far behind you.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of catch up to You're like twelve dicks
Speaker 2: in my ass. I don't know, maybe is that how
Speaker 2: you king? I haven't even had to, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that would be a whole moment.
Speaker 1: I saw one time on set. I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw two dicks go into ass
Speaker 1: and I never I was scared, not scared, but because
Speaker 1: she was like definitely all into it. But I didn't
Speaker 1: think that that could work, Like I didn't know. I
Speaker 1: was like, more power to you, Like I just yeah.
Speaker 2: They were too tall.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like the prude ist porn star life.
Speaker 1: You know, sorry about that, but I feel like I
Speaker 1: have my own sexuality and my own things that comes
Speaker 1: across very well. But yes, I feel like I.
Speaker 2: Don't have to take like everyone has their own thing
Speaker 2: and and being genuine and enjoying it is way more
Speaker 2: important than how many dicks you can fit.
Speaker 1: Definitely not tying me up. You're definitely not bondaging me
Speaker 1: in anything I have I have come Yeah, no, thank you.
Speaker 1: I definitely the only thing I did for kink was
Speaker 1: it was a fucking machine. That was the only thing
Speaker 1: that I had. Those were come a lot, and I
Speaker 1: also at first I was like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's like a machine, like because just because for me,
Speaker 1: a lot of things I think personally is like when
Speaker 1: you don't know the outcome. I'm a control freak about
Speaker 1: certain things. So I'm like, what what does you mean?
Speaker 2: Like, what is I going to do?
Speaker 1: And then I was more intrigued that I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to see what happened. So I'm like, nothing
Speaker 1: really bad can happen other than me being I'm gonna come.
Speaker 1: So I got like that level that was that was
Speaker 1: my big girl panchery.
Speaker 2: I was like, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't do I don't associate pain and sex,
Speaker 1: like I I can't even I like the way bondage looks,
Speaker 1: but not I feel like on video like I couldn't
Speaker 1: watch a film with you doing things as far as
Speaker 1: like getting off to but I like the art of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just never into being. I like to to touch things.
Speaker 1: I'm like to explore things, and I use my mouth.
Speaker 1: I'm just all over the place. You know, you're a
Speaker 1: little there, a little you know, everywhere.
Speaker 2: But that's hot. I mean, if if everyone liked the
Speaker 2: same thing, the sexual landscape of porn would be so boring.
Speaker 1: Pornab has some crazy you know, you can find anything
Speaker 1: on there. I'm like, it's nuts. I'm all nuts, us
Speaker 1: all there.
Speaker 2: It's not there. It's pretty crazy. Although less stuff now
Speaker 2: that they did their big purge. Good for that, yes, please,
Speaker 2: thank you. I all of that.
Speaker 1: Is there any kind of scene that you have not
Speaker 1: done that you want to do? Hmm?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of things that I
Speaker 2: haven't done, but I feel like at this point I've
Speaker 2: eleven years. All the things that I've like, you know,
Speaker 2: had masturbation fantasies about, all the things that I've been
Speaker 2: like kind of dreaming of my whole life in one
Speaker 2: way or another have been done. But new things always
Speaker 2: pop up. Yeah, things that I didn't know I wanted.
Speaker 2: Like I've always loved like boy boy girl threesomes, and
Speaker 2: I finally got to have a boy boy girl threesome
Speaker 2: with two by guys, you know, and like that I
Speaker 2: was saying, the dynamic is so fun. You know. I've
Speaker 2: always been in those moments the center of attention, right,
Speaker 2: which which is fun in its own way. But there's
Speaker 2: something really amazing about having everyone genuinely equally involved. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And that's not something I even knew I wanted until
Speaker 2: like I started meeting people and I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 2: would be amazing. Yeah, this would be a whole different
Speaker 2: way to experience this sex act.
Speaker 1: I love that you're a bit to try new things,
Speaker 1: you know, that's exciting for the evolution of porn and
Speaker 1: continue doing things like that. It's still like it's done
Speaker 1: in a safe way, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: that's like you said, we're in the world of swinger
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, which brought you here, which I
Speaker 1: don't think is bad. But again, being in a level
Speaker 1: where it's like controlled, this is safe. It's way more
Speaker 1: safe to explore those things, to open up even more
Speaker 1: and let you really be who you want to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a beautiful thing. And if something
Speaker 2: bad goes on set, people are accountable. Something weird happens
Speaker 2: in the Swingers Club, I don't know, You're like, who
Speaker 2: do I call?
Speaker 1: Nobody?
Speaker 2: Is like where's HR? Like nowhere? You mean there's no HR?
Speaker 1: And do you have a crazy swinger party situation story?
Speaker 1: That was like the craziest, like a crazy thing.
Speaker 2: I've seen more crazy things than I've done because I
Speaker 2: was pretty shy. But the thing I always loved watching
Speaker 2: whenever it happened in the Swingers Club was when one
Speaker 2: woman would want the guys to run a train on
Speaker 2: her and would just get as many guys that were
Speaker 2: willing to just go, go, go go, Like how does.
Speaker 1: That actually, like obviously know what a train is, but
Speaker 1: how long does each one go? Is it a time thing?
Speaker 1: Or is it until they stop her? Is like, cause
Speaker 1: it's like at that point, it's a lot of people
Speaker 1: and then you know, it.
Speaker 2: Seems to usually be until either the girl passes them
Speaker 2: along or they come.
Speaker 1: She's like stop sucking me, kind of stop fucking.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like next, next?
Speaker 1: Or is that why the conductor thing? And that's why
Speaker 1: they do this?
Speaker 2: So Okay, if I ever have a train run on me,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it in a conductor's hat and I'm
Speaker 2: going to have the pull cord to tell the goddam
Speaker 2: get off the bus. I like that, stop here.
Speaker 1: I may have to be on set for that because I.
Speaker 2: Want to you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad I could be here to help you, like.
Speaker 2: You know now it's in my head now I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, where's my write this down? That's that's key, guys.
Speaker 1: I have so many ideas and I'm damn I forget
Speaker 1: them feels thank god.
Speaker 2: You know what happens?
Speaker 1: Do you have a dream like list of someone that
Speaker 1: you would like to do a scene with past and present.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, you know, I came into porn
Speaker 2: in twenty and I was only doing girl Girl Born
Speaker 2: at the very beginning because that was my comfort level.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know about these big dicks.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I haven't met them. I don't know
Speaker 2: about them, you know what I mean. It took me
Speaker 2: a little while to like meet some of the dudes.
Speaker 2: So I feel like I didn't get to work with
Speaker 2: a lot of the female superstars of the time, like
Speaker 2: you and asa Akira and like a lot of like
Speaker 2: the serious like ogs.
Speaker 1: We just like passed yeah night.
Speaker 2: So like me, like those were like the first women
Speaker 2: I really looked up to and like, you know, and
Speaker 2: I just missed them all, like Bonnie Rotten and Bella
Speaker 2: Donna and like they're just all you know, semi retired now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bella Donna was my It was my first like
Speaker 1: she was like the first one to unleash, like she
Speaker 1: was my first girl girl, but she was my first
Speaker 1: one too.
Speaker 2: Like that I was like in I had.
Speaker 1: An appreciation for how sexual of a being she was
Speaker 1: and so calming and waiting to like kind of just
Speaker 1: ouzy like sexuality out and really like helps me become
Speaker 1: like the feminine side of sexuality kind of thing, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was really cool to have
Speaker 1: her be directed by her too, and she was a
Speaker 1: really good friend. But yeah, no, she's she was definitely.
Speaker 1: I know my big booty missed you too. You know,
Speaker 1: my ask is sat and it's on your front.
Speaker 2: I know, you know, That's what I'm saying. Like, I
Speaker 2: feel like it's kind of like the nineties supermodels, where
Speaker 2: like everybody knew their name and now right now, no no, no,
Speaker 2: but now there aren't any supermodels, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I feel like that's happened to porn, Like
Speaker 2: like there was like superstars, superstar superstars, and now we're
Speaker 2: all just like, yeah, there are people that get booked
Speaker 2: more or less, but like in terms of the public,
Speaker 2: I don't feel like they're it's not quite like that.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just a different I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying as far as like like I always say
Speaker 1: and then people think like, oh, you're probably like just bitter,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, no, I just feel that way. It's
Speaker 1: like there's porn girls and there's porn stars. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a lot of stars anymore, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And even before when I was actually
Speaker 1: in the industry, I feel like through the people coming
Speaker 1: up with there'd be like two or three that's it
Speaker 1: out really and you know the bunch to be like
Speaker 1: star power, to have like how to like a trifecta
Speaker 1: of things. But yeah, I feel like it's hard, Like
Speaker 1: I definitely I haven't shot and I don't know how
Speaker 1: many years, but like I wouldn't be able to tell
Speaker 1: you who's the top names, Like I have no clue,
Speaker 1: and you know.
Speaker 2: It's not as like no one, like that's not just you,
Speaker 2: Like I don't feel like just people people. I bet
Speaker 2: like most young people, young men, twenty year old men
Speaker 2: could list two or three or four porn stars ten, fifteen,
Speaker 2: twenty thirty years ago, and I just I don't feel
Speaker 2: like it's just maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm wrong, but
Speaker 2: I feel like we should do it like a private top.
Speaker 2: The star seems to be over, well hopefully it's not over,
Speaker 2: because I'm still here. You're like, I'm still here, bitch.
Speaker 1: Do you have any guilty pleasures?
Speaker 2: Vapid pop music? Wed uh, just laying in the sun
Speaker 2: and doing absolutely nothing other than laying in the sun.
Speaker 2: Those are some of the most fun slash useless things
Speaker 2: that I indulge in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is a luxury item that you enjoy treating yourself.
Speaker 2: To uh, going out for food, not cooking myself just yeah,
Speaker 2: well I don't even know if I'm a foodie, but
Speaker 2: I'm like, I just grew up in a really like
Speaker 2: financially responsible household. So like, even things like going out
Speaker 2: for dinner, I almost feel like it should be an
Speaker 2: event or like should have a purpose or have a
Speaker 2: date or like special care something. So like when I
Speaker 2: go out and like maybe I'm alone or maybe I'm
Speaker 2: going out like just fucking because like to me, that
Speaker 2: feels incredibly indulgent. You take a love it. I like
Speaker 2: that too.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite restaurant?
Speaker 2: Then that changes depending on my mood, But I've been
Speaker 2: really into Asinobu lately, a sushi sushi.
Speaker 1: What makes you smile the most?
Speaker 2: My partner and my dogs.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you are off the market, off the market
Speaker 1: the market, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I don't make it public on my social media,
Speaker 2: but it's also not like a secret, if that makes sense, respectable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I was in my past relationship. You
Speaker 1: don't put it in your face, but be honest about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So because of the sing your lifestyle you had before,
Speaker 1: do you guys do anything? You don't do anything anymore.
Speaker 2: Not swingers, just with tested people. He's not in the industry.
Speaker 2: He's so open to have fun with it. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: like your safe. Yeah, safety is the way.
Speaker 1: Is that because of COVID before or.
Speaker 2: Just COVID the whole other level?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you getting the best COVID tested
Speaker 1: before they fuck you and your man?
Speaker 2: Well? To me, I feel like fellow performers are a
Speaker 2: safe space, you know what I mean? Because you know,
Speaker 2: even if you don't have that forty eight hour COVID,
Speaker 2: Like we're all testing like four times a week, we're
Speaker 2: all STI testing every two weeks. Like you're a performer,
Speaker 2: you're to me, you're on my like approved list, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like you've been keeping your strain light.
Speaker 2: We've got it. I'm not like checking tests before I
Speaker 2: bang my personal time, but I'm vetting the people. If
Speaker 2: that makes sense. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: So what would say your five year plan for your business?
Speaker 2: God, I hope I'm still doing this in five years.
Speaker 2: I say that every five years I'm like, surely my
Speaker 2: name will be dead in five years and so dramatic.
Speaker 2: Yeah i am, I'm very dramatic.
Speaker 1: No, I'll be jerking off to you for every promise.
Speaker 2: Listen, if I can roll in in a walker and
Speaker 2: take a pounding, I'm gonna do it. Like do not
Speaker 2: think I won't if you will not be anywhere, if
Speaker 2: you keep me, I'm gonna be here till i'm eighty.
Speaker 2: So that's on, y'all. That's on, y'all.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be you know, rip Betty White, You're gonna
Speaker 1: be the Betty White to porn.
Speaker 2: H If I died during porn, I die happy, had
Speaker 2: a heart attack. You here first, at ninety five years old,
Speaker 2: Like down down.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that I can like put all these great things,
Speaker 1: all these great ideas I'm giving you.
Speaker 2: Today, I'm gonna write them all down. Shreeaville nursing home orgy.
Speaker 1: Order, and you're gonna be kicked out of all the
Speaker 1: nursing homes ever, but I'll come and bail you.
Speaker 2: Out of them.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, next one, let's go see if they'll
Speaker 1: take you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, like you hold yourself out of this one.
Speaker 2: You weren't supposed to film everyone fucking, and you weren't
Speaker 2: supposed to put it on porn hub, but you did,
Speaker 2: only fans.
Speaker 1: Would not be existing.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: How would you want to be remembered since we're talking
Speaker 1: about your Betty White?
Speaker 2: I want to be remembered, you know. I feel like
Speaker 2: we're just like fun sexual entertainers. So if anybody remembered
Speaker 2: me at all or jerked off to me once in
Speaker 2: a while, you know, you know that I'm here for that.
Speaker 1: You know that you need to give yourself more credit
Speaker 1: than that, because they're gonna know who you are.
Speaker 2: Girl, like a good step mom. That bitch could play
Speaker 2: a stepmom.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wondered how many people really think that
Speaker 1: they're your step that your stepmom?
Speaker 2: A hope a fair few.
Speaker 1: Do you have regulars that'll be like stepmom? They call
Speaker 1: you like what are they called your Stepmother's day?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh? And I always I always try and post
Speaker 2: on social media that all my porno step kids should
Speaker 2: really be giving me gifts as well.
Speaker 1: I support this message step mommy them all up?
Speaker 2: Are you only step mommy? Are you mommy? Well? You know,
Speaker 2: for for visa and MasterCard reasons. I am only step mommy,
Speaker 2: of course, because we like to keep our billing in
Speaker 2: the clear. Yeah, as you well know, there are many
Speaker 2: sex acts that are perfectly legal that we do not
Speaker 2: do because Daddy MasterCard and Mama Visa won't let us.
Speaker 2: So you know, you know, step mom when you're fisting
Speaker 2: like all that shenanigans where you're like some like group
Speaker 2: of ten like white dudes, were like, well, that's inappropriate.
Speaker 2: We should definitely have her say step mommy and not mommy,
Speaker 2: and and lord knows, you can't fist with the whole
Speaker 2: hand because that would be weird. Like I would love
Speaker 2: to be a fly on the wall in their content
Speaker 2: moderation conversations because they own us like a motherfucker. This
Speaker 2: is true. Those ten white men, they're probably not even
Speaker 2: I just I imagine them as ten overweight white men.
Speaker 2: That's like my imagination of these guys having like sexual
Speaker 2: conversations about us to decide what they'll pay for or not.
Speaker 2: Like that's my fantasy of it. I so that thing said,
Speaker 2: what's your biggest peppee? Not being able to shoot both
Speaker 2: my hands and someone to us, not just having that's
Speaker 2: out out.
Speaker 1: After dark. You never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: The regulations, the ever changing ridiculous, Like I don't want
Speaker 2: to step outside of legal bounds. That's absolutely not what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But like, come on, if they're consenting adults
Speaker 2: doing consenting things, and we want to film it and
Speaker 2: there are other consenting adults that want to pay for it,
Speaker 2: let's be able to do that. Do we really want
Speaker 2: our financial institutions to decide what a row content we buy?
Speaker 2: And if we do? Does that not seem like a
Speaker 2: slippery slope for freedom of speech in other areas? Like danger,
Speaker 2: Will Robinson, this is not good just because y'all don't
Speaker 2: care about peorn regulations. You should really care about the
Speaker 2: foundation that this sets for like everything. You're just letting
Speaker 2: them choose parts of our freedom of speech, and like,
Speaker 2: to me, that's just like irritating, patronizing, stupid, so many things,
Speaker 2: so many adjectives I could bring to this feeling.
Speaker 1: So what about sex wise, pet peeve, is there something
Speaker 1: that they do they will absolutely turn you off that
Speaker 1: you're just like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, I'm pretty you're pretty easy going with that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure there are plenty of weird things
Speaker 2: that people have done. That have not been my jam.
Speaker 2: But personal life and work life are pretty different. In
Speaker 2: my personal life, like I wouldn't personally want to do
Speaker 2: mommy role play like I wouldn't, you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: not a turn off, but like I'm just doing it
Speaker 2: for you, and I might do it for you on
Speaker 2: an occasion, but most are sex want sex life. I
Speaker 2: want to be reciprocal, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 2: want us both to be living that fantasy. So there's
Speaker 2: nothing that you'd absolutely not like off the table, like pooping,
Speaker 2: scat play, vomiting, uh, pain, blood, had.
Speaker 1: Vomiting, all those liquid things. I wouldn't want any of that.
Speaker 2: Anither anything sharper and safe in my holes, you know,
Speaker 2: but there are plenty of people who genuinely like that.
Speaker 1: So no anything in your holes that was safe and
Speaker 1: not sharp.
Speaker 2: Safe things, yes, safe, you know. One of the biggest,
Speaker 2: weirdest things I put in there. Do you know what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pronounce this horribly? A dikon radishes A daycon
Speaker 2: dikon radish. It's a big radish. And I found one
Speaker 2: at a farmer's market, like mother, and I did it
Speaker 2: and I fucked myself and I scored and it was beautiful,
Speaker 2: and then years later it got taken down for object
Speaker 2: insertion because now we don't allow non sexual objects to
Speaker 2: penetrate our bodies.
Speaker 1: It could be a dildo, but it can't be a carrot.
Speaker 2: It cannot be a carrot or a spatula, but it
Speaker 2: could be a dildo or fingers. It's a shame because
Speaker 2: there's a lot of spatula Mommy content that I had
Speaker 2: that is no longer about that. I know that master
Speaker 2: cardy and your ass are just one you cannot insert,
Speaker 2: not before the content that you had priory. The ratish.
Speaker 2: The ratish was just in my pushy, pushy pushy. Well
Speaker 2: now I'm now, I'm no, I'm Sean Connery put a
Speaker 2: radish in my pushy. I don't know where that game from.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I'll take it my terrible Sean Connery impersonation.
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I love impersonations.
Speaker 2: I wish I could give you a good one. I
Speaker 2: like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: Hm, I feel like, you know you've done a really
Speaker 1: great job in this part. I feel like it's been great.
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to get to my favorite
Speaker 1: part because.
Speaker 2: She wants it. You know you put something like that
Speaker 2: near her pace.
Speaker 1: Long you know, I just keep on touching it. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with me, but no,
Speaker 1: I think it's time for truth with Texas. I feel
Speaker 1: like we've heard all the you know, typical after dark things,
Speaker 1: all those fun things about you, and I've been enjoying
Speaker 1: getting to know you. I hope that you've been having
Speaker 1: fun on the cast so much. How about you plug
Speaker 1: your social medias and things like that before we start?
Speaker 2: And yeah, i'd say, you know, I have a bunch
Speaker 2: of social media, but the main one at this moment
Speaker 2: is Instagram, which is shritaville XO. I just lost my TikTok. Oh, No,
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't done TikTok yet. It was fun.
Speaker 2: It was the most playful social media I had. It
Speaker 2: was the least not that I'm sexual on Instagram, but
Speaker 2: I'm thirst trappy, right, I'm showing things. TikTok I was
Speaker 2: just like totally PG and comedic and it got taken down.
Speaker 2: I'm so sack.
Speaker 1: Is it because of who you are?
Speaker 2: Like? Because the I can only assume so. But I
Speaker 2: was verified and everything like I see I.
Speaker 1: See like this last week, I think Riley Reid has
Speaker 1: talked about how they keep telling her, like ticking her off,
Speaker 1: saying that this she's impersonating Riley Reid and she's like else.
Speaker 2: Got verified as her verified.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, especially because she got on there like her
Speaker 1: what her real socials are, like her whole thing, Like,
Speaker 1: how can you say that and then you just still
Speaker 1: have it on there.
Speaker 2: I think it's just super I understand why the people
Speaker 2: that aren't us pretending to be us try and get
Speaker 2: us taken down. And my account on TikTok did get
Speaker 2: taken down two days after I went on a reporting rampage.
Speaker 2: So I think I just pissed the wrong person off.
Speaker 2: I think I got the wrong Shridaville account deleted and
Speaker 2: they were, you know, making money off my name and
Speaker 2: off my work and off my tiktoks and they got
Speaker 2: pissed and they effectively and successfully deleted me.
Speaker 1: That's shitty because it's, like you said, it's a playful thing.
Speaker 1: You want to have fun, you want your fans to
Speaker 1: see a different side of you, and it's like it's
Speaker 1: it's all on fun times. Yeah, but hopefully you'll get
Speaker 1: it back, because sometimes I think you can like say
Speaker 1: something I'm trying because you didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 2: No, if it's like if a human eyeball goes back
Speaker 2: and looks at any of my tiktoks, they're I mean,
Speaker 2: it's safer than what all these twelve year olds are
Speaker 2: doing on TikTok and they're swimwear.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I also saw that you you know you
Speaker 1: read your dms.
Speaker 2: How is how is that going traumatic?
Speaker 1: Now I've seen mine?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I mean because I'm reading
Speaker 2: the ones that like, like I have mindset so like
Speaker 2: like you could DM me right away, I'd see it
Speaker 2: right away, right, So the only people that are kind
Speaker 2: of like hidden from me and those requests are people
Speaker 2: I don't follow, and like those are the ones I'm reading,
Speaker 2: so they're always.
Speaker 1: Like, what's like the funniest one you've gotten so far?
Speaker 2: To me, the funniest ones are the ones that make
Speaker 2: no sense at all, Like they're not sexual or about me.
Speaker 2: Like like I think in one of my reading the dms,
Speaker 2: one of the first ones I read was just this
Speaker 2: guy sending me pictures of scarves. Oh Like he wasn't
Speaker 2: saying wrap yourself up or fuck yourself and he was
Speaker 2: just like want he was just like this one's nice.
Speaker 2: This like if he was creating a conversation with you
Speaker 2: and just had like with like fifty scars, Like it's
Speaker 2: those weird ones that I'm just like, why, Like, this
Speaker 2: is the only contact we've ever had. This is my
Speaker 2: first and last impression of you, And all you're doing
Speaker 2: is saying Hi twelve times?
Speaker 3: Like what there's some men out there like real life.
Speaker 3: Now it's in the damn Oh, I guess he is
Speaker 3: a real Hi Hi? Has that ever worked in real
Speaker 3: life or heaven forbid online?
Speaker 1: Maybe you should say hi one time and see what
Speaker 1: it does if he just says Hi.
Speaker 2: Hi, Hey, what you doing? I'm on my Instagram wondering
Speaker 2: what the fuck you're texting me for? That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: What are you? Like? You know, if I didn't know
Speaker 2: someone and I was trying to impress them, I might
Speaker 2: tell them a little bit about myself. I would never no,
Speaker 2: especially if I didn't flush the toilet and there was
Speaker 2: a turd orine.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I've had the toilet, but not the like
Speaker 3: turd in like dirty toilet.
Speaker 2: Like even if there's no bad cleanliness, I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't I always expect.
Speaker 1: The room picture. I'm like, what's going on here? There's
Speaker 1: like no sheet on the bed, there's some weird stuff, chaos,
Speaker 1: and they want.
Speaker 2: You to suck. No, your room is your room? Tells
Speaker 2: me everything I know about mad Stepmummy is mad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll peg you, I'll peg you hard, but none of
Speaker 2: that's going in my mouth. No, sir, do you peg
Speaker 2: for pleasure or for pab Honestly, now for pleasure, but
Speaker 2: only when, Like I'll peg someone who likes it because
Speaker 2: they want to get off, and that's fun. But that's
Speaker 2: more of like I do. I'm doing something for you.
Speaker 2: You might do something for me, but as I've done
Speaker 2: more dominant work, there is I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: sexual pleasure or saedistic pleasure. In almost like venting on someone,
Speaker 2: almost like taking all of that feels good, irritating shit
Speaker 2: that people say to us out on someone who wants it. Granted,
Speaker 2: I do not like non consensual stuff, but if someone
Speaker 2: wants to be fucked up and I can say some
Speaker 2: shit and like vent my heart out, thank you, thank
Speaker 2: you for being my SNAr.
Speaker 1: I had a similar thing when with the like whole
Speaker 1: aggression thing being let out. It was Australia the sex
Speaker 1: bos you could do. The first one we did, it
Speaker 1: was like a sex bet that you have a signing,
Speaker 1: and they're all in Australia is all into BDSM stuff.
Speaker 1: They're all like sign up, like sign me up. And
Speaker 1: I had never camee somebody, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't against associate pain like and sex like something that
Speaker 1: wouldn't turn me on. So I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: cane like do it. And then they're like calling me
Speaker 1: a bit and I'm like I don't like that either,
Speaker 1: so like at first and then it's a cane so
Speaker 1: it's like you know, and there was like a little
Speaker 1: thing and then at the end, I was like I
Speaker 1: was smacking the shit out of people like left and right.
Speaker 1: And there was this one guy. I swear he probably
Speaker 1: remembers me forever in life because I know I remember him.
Speaker 1: But I like caned him so bad, like he probably
Speaker 1: couldn't sit down for a week, and but he loved it,
Speaker 1: loved it, actually loved it. But I was like I
Speaker 1: try because exactly, I was like I need to stop
Speaker 1: because I should go to jail, like this is horrible.
Speaker 2: Like it was like it was bad. I was like
Speaker 2: I was like, we gonna put this cane down. I
Speaker 2: resigned my cane in the everyone's loving it. It's like
Speaker 2: you get to vent and they get sexual pleasure. It's
Speaker 2: like wind because it was more like I've been here
Speaker 2: for twelve hours. It's like, who's talking shit to me? Yeah,
Speaker 2: ten guys tried to grab my ass, not consensually, like
Speaker 2: now MEO.
Speaker 1: That's where the good resting bitch face really comes in
Speaker 1: play because I'm one of those people like this hasn't happened.
Speaker 2: Have they tried?
Speaker 1: One thousand? But I learned a long time I'm gonna
Speaker 1: home from a girl. She was like, and I never
Speaker 1: really had to do it, but I did definitely a
Speaker 1: couple of times. She was like when they do that,
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, I just take their hand in
Speaker 1: the back and I put twist their hand and she's
Speaker 1: like they want a good picture, so they just do it,
Speaker 1: but they never touch me again, mommy.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, obviously she was a Spanish chick,
Speaker 2: but she was a badass bitch.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, So for me, I if I
Speaker 1: saw or like I'm reading people really well, so I
Speaker 1: was like, if I saw the enticing of like them
Speaker 1: even wanting to or try, I'd be like, h don't
Speaker 1: touch your grabber.
Speaker 2: You're not getting anything and you're not getting your fun.
Speaker 2: So I go.
Speaker 1: But if you let me touch you, or let me
Speaker 1: touch and put your hands where I want to, then
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: But just don't.
Speaker 1: Probably I'm not a piece of meat like. I don't
Speaker 1: like that feeling, even though I know people know me
Speaker 1: from my ass, respect the booty, no bruises, But it's yours.
Speaker 2: Exactly, that's key word. It's not yours mine. All right.
Speaker 1: I got a little off sidetracked, buddy, not It's just
Speaker 1: that I'm talking to you.
Speaker 2: All right. So let's play truth with Texas. How this
Speaker 2: is going to go?
Speaker 1: There's four aces. Each ace is a different type of question,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Get down to it. Ready Are you ready? All right?
Speaker 2: Here we go? All right?
Speaker 1: Ooh, Ace of Hearts is our romantic question? Would you
Speaker 1: consider yourself a romantic? Yes? What's the most romantic thing
Speaker 1: you've done for a partner?
Speaker 2: Kind of depends on their love language, you know, But
Speaker 2: I'm willing to spend inordinate amounts of time planning something
Speaker 2: that I think any of my partners will like. Whether
Speaker 2: it is a vacation or a special night, or they'll
Speaker 2: mention something that they want or maybe always missed in
Speaker 2: their childhood, Like I will remember that shit, and I
Speaker 2: will make that happen for you. Like nothing gives me
Speaker 2: more joy than to do something unexpected for someone I love,
Speaker 2: something thoughtful and unexpected. You know, what is your.
Speaker 1: Favorite body part that your most feel accomplished about?
Speaker 2: Oh, my god, my favorite body part. In high school,
Speaker 2: it used to be my abs, and then that ship sailed,
Speaker 2: and then it's probably my ass. Uh, But now I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just I feel like I just like
Speaker 2: my figure. I feel like I'm comfortable in my body.
Speaker 2: I've been working out more so I feel like it
Speaker 2: does what I want it to do. And I've been
Speaker 2: taking a lot more pride in like my functionality than
Speaker 2: my luck lately, and like I feel like it's a
Speaker 2: good place for me. Yea, the whole pack is mystery.
Speaker 1: I like it it gets turned on.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I know this is so fucking cliche, but it
Speaker 2: I feel it in my heart when I see a
Speaker 2: really confident person, Like there is something magnetic about someone
Speaker 2: who owns their own skin. And I don't even know
Speaker 2: what actions they're doing. I think it's just the way
Speaker 2: they hold themselves. You know, I haven't had that many
Speaker 2: crushes in life, probably less than ten where I'm like
Speaker 2: fluttering in my heart, out of my mind, and every
Speaker 2: time it's a person and you know, man or woman
Speaker 2: that has that, you know that it factor yeah, And
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, do you have trouble dating and porn?
Speaker 2: I haven't, But I think somehow my heart reads out
Speaker 2: people that aren't confident enough to deal with my job
Speaker 2: just as happenstance. You know, it just happened to be
Speaker 2: my preference, and then this happens to me my job,
Speaker 2: and then like the people I date just happen to
Speaker 2: be okay with it. But that is not the experience
Speaker 2: I hear from most people. So it just must be
Speaker 2: like the people they give me the flutters, it's like
Speaker 2: my body knows.
Speaker 1: I think that has to do with exactly what you'd like,
Speaker 1: that appeal of like it's that mirror image is like
Speaker 1: you also you two are confident in yourself and you're
Speaker 1: just very You own your shit, if you're sexual, if
Speaker 1: you're this or whatever, and so people can kind of
Speaker 1: see like, oh, like you said to you about your friends.
Speaker 1: They didn't not think that you were not sexual or
Speaker 1: far through that you would have been in porn type
Speaker 1: of relationship kind of thing. So I feel like that
Speaker 1: goes within your personal life as well, like just just
Speaker 1: who you are, Like you're just very like this is
Speaker 1: me and this is what it is, and so it
Speaker 1: attracts the same similarities.
Speaker 2: You want to be with me, this is it. If
Speaker 2: you don't bye bye, I'm not gonna like. Oh. So,
Speaker 2: you know so many people and for some people it's
Speaker 2: the right move because it's what they wanted. But I
Speaker 2: know so many people who wanted to stay in the
Speaker 2: business would have stayed in the business and found a
Speaker 2: jealous partner that removed them from the business. I don't
Speaker 2: know very many other jobs where your significant other would
Speaker 2: be like, actually, can you quit your job for me?
Speaker 2: Then yeah, I really I get that too.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like, like with myself, I chose.
Speaker 2: To leave when I wanted it. That's different though, That's
Speaker 2: what I did.
Speaker 1: Also have a boyfriend that didn't want me to be
Speaker 1: in the business, but at that time I had the
Speaker 1: choice to be in the business how I wanted to be. Like,
Speaker 1: I never fully left and did whatever. But I also
Speaker 1: understand that like the whole because it's like you're losing
Speaker 1: a part of your identity if you're letting you doing
Speaker 1: it for somebody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're wrong only doing it for somebody else,
Speaker 2: if you were waiting for that moment, like like I
Speaker 2: have friends that are just like hopeless romantics and it's
Speaker 2: beautiful and they were waiting to find that partner that
Speaker 2: may made them want to quit, and then they quit,
Speaker 2: and then they moved on to another beautiful chapter of
Speaker 2: their lives and that's fantastic. I'm not throwing shade on
Speaker 2: quitting for love, yeah, but it's sad to see what
Speaker 2: usually ends up being a temporary relationship to take them
Speaker 2: out of peak. I'm just being business peak earning years.
Speaker 1: For sure, and then they come back in the business
Speaker 1: and then it's not really the same.
Speaker 2: It's not the same.
Speaker 1: Trying to change things up now, I could thought, what
Speaker 1: would you say would be the dumbest thing you've ever
Speaker 1: done to get somebody's attention for love?
Speaker 2: I remember in college there's this like really cute boy
Speaker 2: that lived below me, and this was how strong my
Speaker 2: game was. Then I knocked on the door he opened,
Speaker 2: I was like hi, and then nothing for a bit
Speaker 2: too long. Do you have and I mind you I
Speaker 2: lived two steps above. Do you have a cup of water?
Speaker 2: Into water? It worked? We still ended up banging, but
Speaker 2: like immediately no but later but to no credit to
Speaker 2: my flirting abilities, I was probably like the worst lamest,
Speaker 2: like do you do you have water? Water? Yeah? I've
Speaker 2: been like, um, are you lost? Yeah, ma'am, are you okay?
Speaker 2: You know you have water at your sink? Hey?
Speaker 1: But ballsy enough to knock on the door. He was
Speaker 1: probably like, um, yes, it worked out, It worked out
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Next card, Oh see it's the shoulder thing. I think
Speaker 2: I'm used to it.
Speaker 1: Ooh our favorite hair aceps is naughty? Question a little naughty?
Speaker 1: Hmmm have you ever made a woman's squirt?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, do you squirt rarely? But yes?
Speaker 1: Lube or spit?
Speaker 2: Spit spit or swallow? It depends if I'm showing it
Speaker 2: off for them, like some people really like to like
Speaker 2: see it and show it off. Like I used to
Speaker 2: always just swallow because like I don't know, that just
Speaker 2: seemed accomplished a fishing. I don't know whatever, it just
Speaker 2: seemed right. But like now I know that some people
Speaker 2: really like to like see it, so then I'll let
Speaker 2: it like drip down my face or I'll play with
Speaker 2: it or stuff like that. But it kind of depends
Speaker 2: on the partner.
Speaker 1: Do you have I already know this. Do you own
Speaker 1: any sex toys?
Speaker 2: A fair few, a fair feel.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite sex toy to you? Do you
Speaker 1: have like one that's like do you have like for me?
Speaker 1: Do you have one that you go to that's like
Speaker 1: that go to?
Speaker 2: Well, I have three bins that are kind of like
Speaker 2: they slide into for a better word, like a bookshelf,
Speaker 2: and they each have different types of toys in them.
Speaker 2: But like, if I'm just masturbating for me, this is
Speaker 2: not being filmed, Like I don't even need to make
Speaker 2: an experience for me, Like I just want to like
Speaker 2: get off and go to fucking bed. It'll be a vibrator.
Speaker 2: Hitachi is my favorite. It's a little intense, so I'll
Speaker 2: go like lelo hitachi, depending on like the exact experience.
Speaker 1: Zelos, I feel like never really like gave me the right.
Speaker 2: Do you have the one that goes in and out
Speaker 2: and vibrate.
Speaker 1: I stopped fucking with them for a long time, like
Speaker 1: I because I used to do twice of all the time,
Speaker 1: like the conventions and things like that and like signings,
Speaker 1: and they would give after the one. I was like,
Speaker 1: I remember being so frustrated because I was it was
Speaker 1: a hotel and I'd take it because I wanted to masturbate.
Speaker 1: I throwed across the room.
Speaker 2: Never looked back.
Speaker 1: I never But maybe because now they're better, I don't
Speaker 1: really know.
Speaker 2: But I also too, I have a lot of different
Speaker 2: on iachi girls, so you know, Hitachi is amazing. The
Speaker 2: only other one that I've found close is the one
Speaker 2: that like has really really strong vibration on the click,
Speaker 2: because I like really strong vibration and really strong vibration
Speaker 2: in the G spot and you just insert it and
Speaker 2: it's and that's the little low one. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 2: sure they have a million others that are different. But like,
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I need, like, if
Speaker 2: you're going to vibrate me, vibrate for sure hard.
Speaker 1: I feel like my my masturbating has different and evolved
Speaker 1: in the last year too, because it's like I'm not
Speaker 1: having a lot of sex, so for me, it's like
Speaker 1: I before didn't like to have like fuck myself with
Speaker 1: a dildo, I would only do like external like with
Speaker 1: the haitachi, but now because it was that thing, you know,
Speaker 1: I definitely have used a different kind of twies, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely about I like the both. Both is always bad.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, best of both worlds.
Speaker 2: You know, I have really really short arms, so it's
Speaker 2: hard for me to fuck myself with a dildo comfortably
Speaker 2: and come at the same time. So like, if I'm
Speaker 2: masturbating alone, I'll usually if I'm going to do an insertion,
Speaker 2: which is only like ten percent of the time, I
Speaker 2: insert it and I probably just like leave it in there,
Speaker 2: like in a deep spot that I like because I'm
Speaker 2: just like, I feel like it's a lot happening with
Speaker 2: these little arms of the rest.
Speaker 1: This size matter, I think to a point, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, but it matters on both sides, you know, Like
Speaker 2: like one of my best civilian friends divorced her husband
Speaker 2: because his dick was too big after about three years,
Speaker 2: because she how did you not know that in the beginning?
Speaker 2: She did? But I think it's big dicks can feel
Speaker 2: really good until you're having sex with them five days
Speaker 2: a week, do you know what I mean? So I
Speaker 2: think she wanted a more like for her body, a
Speaker 2: more like regular use penis, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's different for everybody.
Speaker 1: The only reason why she left was her other stuff too, because.
Speaker 2: Well, when the sex life dies, everything else dies.
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to have sex with him.
Speaker 2: She was unable to have sex with him a lot,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't good for either of them, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And then of course, like if something
Speaker 2: is really really small it it's fine with me, but
Speaker 2: it won't be your penis we're using to penetrate me.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can do oral on me, Maybe you can
Speaker 2: use your fingers, maybe you can wear a strap on.
Speaker 2: I don't need a huge dong, but I needs but
Speaker 2: all the time though, all the time a micro penis.
Speaker 1: No, I mean as far as like even if he
Speaker 1: wasn't a micro but small but you said he could
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: I women too, though, So I'm okay with no penis
Speaker 2: at all, you know what I mean. So his penis
Speaker 2: wouldn't matter to me that much, although it might not
Speaker 2: end up being the tool that makes me come from penetration.
Speaker 2: Like he'd have to be okay with that. If you
Speaker 2: h one that wasn't enough for me to orgasm with
Speaker 2: from penetration? Yeah, have you ever faked an orgasm on set?
Speaker 2: And maybe when I was younger, but now I'm just like, no,
Speaker 2: you didn't make me come, and like that's okay, like
Speaker 2: not even in like a snotty shady way, but like,
Speaker 2: let's both learn more about our bodies, Like let's communicate
Speaker 2: about what I like, let's communicate about what makes me come,
Speaker 2: or like know that you didn't quite get me there
Speaker 2: with that, like do you want to use a vibrator
Speaker 2: on me? Would you like to go down on me? Now?
Speaker 2: Like there are lots of options, and I don't feel
Speaker 2: like we need to lie to each other because like
Speaker 2: I want to come.
Speaker 1: I want to come. That's important, especially because I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of people nowadays if they're so easy
Speaker 1: to like just fucking like you know, they don't even
Speaker 1: know anything about this person or whatever. But it's like
Speaker 1: you're so easy to do that, but you're fucking that
Speaker 1: person putting them to your body. So I would rather
Speaker 1: be more communicative and made it enjoyable for all parties
Speaker 1: involved than just be like stick it in and then
Speaker 1: I'm mad.
Speaker 2: Especially if it's a one night stand, Like I've spent
Speaker 2: all this time just to have with you. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have a fucking orgasm one way or another's I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna be here all day. I'm coming. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: not come. You know what I can do to make
Speaker 1: my body come?
Speaker 2: And let's go, Let's do this.
Speaker 1: I can go all right next card.
Speaker 2: Ace of Colaps.
Speaker 1: It's a kinky question. Favorite time of day to have sex.
Speaker 2: I'm not a night person honestly, and not that I
Speaker 2: don't have sex at night, but like if you want
Speaker 2: like emotional connection, contact energy, it's gonna be before eight pm.
Speaker 2: To be honest, you're just laying there. I'm just a
Speaker 2: more time. I'm starting to like wrap my day up
Speaker 2: a little. I'm getting more. You know, if I fuck
Speaker 2: at night, it'll be like maybe we're gonna do like
Speaker 2: spoon and it's gonna be nice and we'll have an
Speaker 2: orgasm and then you know what I mean, it's not
Speaker 2: gonna be like this whole thing. You know. Have you
Speaker 2: ever been caught masturbating? Yes? How did that go down? Well?
Speaker 2: When I was younger with my parents and embarrassing, did
Speaker 2: they like shame you for it? Shut the door and
Speaker 2: was like come back out. Yeah, like we all knew,
Speaker 2: we knew. And then it was like a conversation like
Speaker 2: the next day, like about exploring your.
Speaker 1: Body and like it is at least they were, you know,
Speaker 1: talking about an educational way. Most number of times had
Speaker 1: sex in one day?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know the answer to that. It's got
Speaker 2: to be more than five. Okay. I love that You're like,
Speaker 2: I don't. I actually do not know. She's got to
Speaker 2: be more than five to be determined. I feel confident
Speaker 2: about that answer, but like, is it ten? I don't know.
Speaker 2: But how many times have you mastered me in one day? Oh? God?
Speaker 2: A lot? Even in one session. I like, I'm not
Speaker 2: a one and done kind of girl, Like even if
Speaker 2: I'm doing it to go to bed, like at least two,
Speaker 2: at least I like two or three for sure.
Speaker 1: What it's like, I feel like you're just getting there
Speaker 1: and then you're like, yea, I'm gona try this again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: going last dirty dream you had.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of dirty dreams. I have a
Speaker 2: lot of dirty.
Speaker 1: Dream acts out those dirty dreams in your content, you know,
Speaker 1: I should.
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of my dreams in general
Speaker 2: are more like nebulous. Like I had a dream recently
Speaker 2: about a girl and I can't even like picture her
Speaker 2: face even right after the dream, just eating me out.
Speaker 2: That was the whole dream, just like what oral sex
Speaker 2: felt like from her.
Speaker 1: You know, wake up with like a wet dream aspect
Speaker 1: or I can.
Speaker 2: Come in my dreams, yeah, or I feel like I do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's intense. What type of porn turns you on now?
Speaker 2: Because I know everyone and I feel like I'm like,
Speaker 2: she doesn't like her. They used to date that religistics,
Speaker 2: and it like definitely dulls the fantasy. And I don't
Speaker 2: like amateur porn because it's so like poorly filmed for
Speaker 2: the most part, animated all animated porn.
Speaker 1: I love it was that something you were ever into before,
Speaker 1: justly because of everything you explained.
Speaker 2: Uh, throughout most of my life, I just used my mind,
Speaker 2: just fantasies in my head. So yeah, I feel like
Speaker 2: I very very very rarely watch porn at all, and
Speaker 2: pre Internet, like I wasn't gonna go out and buy
Speaker 2: a porn Like I remember some of my college roommates
Speaker 2: had a porn and Julianne was in it actually, and
Speaker 2: that was like my only porn for like college, Like
Speaker 2: I never spent money to seek it out because my
Speaker 2: mind is pretty good, in my opinion, for masturbating. So
Speaker 2: it wasn't even until like the age of like super
Speaker 2: convenient Internet that I even bothered to seek out any
Speaker 2: porn at all. And then by that time I was
Speaker 2: doing porn, so I was animated porn. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Have you ever hooked up with someone and kept to
Speaker 1: seek it from your friends?
Speaker 2: Probably probably, like a long long time. I don't know
Speaker 2: what I have. That's a maybe nothing that I can
Speaker 2: think of, but like I can imagine that has happened before,
Speaker 2: but not for anything like shady, like that was your
Speaker 2: boyfriend or whatever, but just from like I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe it's my fun. Yeah, you know, have you ever
Speaker 2: had revenge sex, like with an X or something. I've
Speaker 2: had a lot of it, to piss off an X
Speaker 2: or like to do never to piss off an X.
Speaker 2: Definitely with an X, but I'm not sure it feels revenge.
Speaker 2: It's always felt like, oh my god, we shouldn't be
Speaker 2: doing this. We're totally broke up. We're so toxic for
Speaker 2: each other, you know what I mean. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that would, but no, Yeah, this is terrible. We're
Speaker 2: it ended so badly left last time.
Speaker 1: Let's buck you know, I like these scenarios playing on
Speaker 1: your hid all our last one is a diamond, which
Speaker 1: is a spicy question. The longest you've gone without sex?
Speaker 2: Hmmm, since I started having sex. The longest I've gone
Speaker 2: without sex couldn't be more than a month. More than
Speaker 2: a month. Yeah, I doubt it. I doubt it.
Speaker 1: Fantasy threesome.
Speaker 2: Definitely involves Angelina Jolie. Hot definitely involves her, and honestly
Speaker 2: any penis at all. I just want like a nice
Speaker 2: dick and her and I like her and I doing
Speaker 2: stuff playing with a dick that's nice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Have you ever called someone the wrong name during sex?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think. Yeah, but you
Speaker 2: know what that that's a good point because I don't
Speaker 2: even now, like unless I'm on set expected to say
Speaker 2: their name, Like like if we were fucking off camera,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't keep saying your name. I just don't. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I don't do that, But I don't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I always kept I used to
Speaker 1: bartend long time ago, so I was baby and sweetie,
Speaker 1: just words dared. I don't remember your name, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you what you that's always it's endearing.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, they're happy. Yeah, oh if it's
Speaker 2: kinda bare en.
Speaker 1: What's the most embarrassing thing that's happened to you on set?
Speaker 2: Honestly, and it's not even sexual, but it's to me
Speaker 2: so embarrassing. So I was the last scene late at
Speaker 2: night at the end of the day of this huge feature.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to go home. We have a little bit
Speaker 2: of dialogue, then we're gonna bang, and then again everybody
Speaker 2: finally gets to go home. Like I'm sure it's midnight, right,
Speaker 2: So I have this glass of wine that I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to yeat into my coworker's face. We're going to get
Speaker 2: in an argument and we're gonna bang. It's like three words, yeat, bang.
Speaker 2: The glass is kind of rounded, and I was super
Speaker 2: cagey about like throwing any