Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media.
Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Welcome back to the Shirley You Can't Be
Serious podcast. We are here for our second part of
our competition between a gunfight, if you will, between Tombstone
and Young Guns one and Young Guns two.
Speaker 1: Dog did you see the side of that chick in?
We are going to get on our spirit horse and
see where a lee It says, okay casting on Young Guns. Okay.
Speaker 3: So we talked earlier Christopher Caine, the director of Young Guns,
directed Emelia.
Speaker 1: Estevez in That was then.
Speaker 3: This is now Estevez name sometimes throws people off. He
is the son of Martin Sheen and the brother of
Charlie Sheen. Sheen is their professional name. Yes, I heard
Amelio talking about this. They're like, did you ever think
about taking the Sheen name.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, yeah I did.
Speaker 3: He said, I had a lot of agents coming to
me and saying, look, kid with a name like Sheen,
you know your dad can propel you a lot if
you'll just use it. And so he's like, okay, okay,
And so he took some headshots and it said Emilio
Sheen and he's like he laughed. He's like that just
looks so stupid to have such a strong Latin first
name and then such a regular last name. He's like,
it's too I can't do it right, I can't do it.
Change it back to sts Carlos Stevs.
Speaker 1: But he goes by Arlie. She's not really an americanized
version of Emilio. There's no Charlie to go to on
that one. We'd just call him Andrew. I would expect
more from a varsity athlete Andrew. All right.
Speaker 3: So you've got Emilia Steves, who's hot off of the
Breakfast Club. One movie that he was in that I
forgot to mention that is a personal favorite of mine
is an s he Hinton story that they made called
Texts Isn't. Yeah, he's in that one, Matt Dyllan. Yeah,
and it took place and shot all around to also
Oklahoma when I was growing up. So definitely fond memories
of that movie.
Speaker 1: Cool. Then you've got Kiefer Sutherland.
Speaker 3: Yep, you wrote fifteen year old boy straight into his
grave and the rest of us straight to hell. Okay,
backing up to Emilia, rest of as real quick he was.
He turned twenty six when Young Guns was shot in
nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1: Eight, right, and there be hanged by the neck till
he be dead, dead dead. How do you have anything
to say, young man, Yes.
Speaker 4: Your honor, I do.
Speaker 1: You can go to hell, hell, hell, okay, all right.
Speaker 3: Keefer Sutherland had just been the Lost Boys. Yeah, flash
back to our Lost Boys episode. Yes, he had just
turned twenty one. He turned twenty two at the in
the end.
Speaker 1: Of eighty eight. He's just it's crazy, twenty one years old.
He looks like the older, wiser guy of the group,
but he was the youngest customer. Fascinating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would have been in stand By Me at
twenty he was the bad guy and stand By Me
with member of his gang, Casey Casey Chamisko. Yep, yep,
all right and Casey Chamisco.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, oh it's you nine.
Speaker 6: Is that right, John, He went on, Yes, yes, it.
Speaker 3: Is turned twenty seven. In nineteen eighty eight, he had
been in Back to the Future. He'd been in a
movie called Three o'clock High.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think we've mentioned this a few times. If you
have not seen Three o'clock High and you like eighties movies, awesome,
awesome movie.
Speaker 1: So I told you that my brother got certified scuba
diving with case He's a mesco right, let's hear it.
I don't have it. He didn't do it. He was
at like a Formula one race and he was too
loud and I was like, I need the Casey never mind. Okay,
So your brothers took scuba Lezzes, Well, yeah, he got
his certification, like the last dive that you do when
you're becoming certified scuba diver. And his opinion at the time,
back in the eighties was that it came. He was
an able, but my brother was a teenager wreck then,
so what does he know. I'm I'm not saying that.
I was just maybe Casey was having a bad day
that day. Casey, he plays Charlie Bounder. Yeah, okay. Then
you have Lou Diamond Phillips.
Speaker 7: Many nights, my friend, many nights, I'd put a blade
to your throat while he was sleeping.
Speaker 2: Glad I never killed you.
Speaker 1: Steve Yes, he was actually one of the oldest guys.
He was twenty five when they shot. Yeah, right now.
He had just come off of Stand and Deliver and.
Speaker 8: Lobamba, Which it's interesting those, I mean, those are obviously
well known movies.
Speaker 1: We know them very well, but I mean Standard Deliver
was like a micro budget independent movie. Oabamba was a
negative pickup project, small budget movie that just half they
both happened to hit. But he hadn't gotten any work
for like six months. And he's like, Okay, Oh, I
got this part. That's a cowboy movie. I'll go audition
for it. Okay, great, And they send him the script,
but they don't tell him what the audition pieces are,
and so he's like, I'm just gonna go pick out
my favorite scenes and I'll just know those scenes so
I can use that. Right, He's meeting with the producers
with Christopher Kane and he's like okay, and they're talking
and he's like, I'm really excited about this. I hope
I can be a part of this project. I don't
know what the audition parts are, but I've memorized some
of these other parts. And they're looking at him like, yeah,
you got the part already, buddy, you don't have to
and he's like oh. And it was like that moment
that he knew that he had made it, Like he
didn't realize that despite the fact that he had had
two really successful movies under his belt, he was still
new and he wasn't getting work. He wasn't getting work,
and it's like, oh I have it all right, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh what it? Yes? Okay, quick, a funny story on
Lou Diamond Films. That's a great story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that every night after shooting they would go to
the bar.
Speaker 1: This is in New.
Speaker 3: Mexico and this is like I think they stayed in
Santa Fe, right, but Cinta Fe is not exactly New
York City or Hollywood or anything.
Speaker 1: So, but they do have karaoke bars. Apparently they do.
Speaker 3: So there was this, uh, you know, a local band playing,
and we got all these young guys at the bar
drink and have fun, young whatever. And so every night,
every night they'd be like, all right, Lou, let's go
up here.
Speaker 1: LaBamba hit it.
Speaker 3: So he said that every night they would they would
make him sing LaBamba and they would always sing knocking
on Heaven's door.
Speaker 1: Oh nice. Splash back to our usual Lesion too episode.
By the way, just in case anybody doesn't know, he
didn't actually sing LaBamba in the movie. Yeah, okay, that's hysterical, man,
This guy sucks, all right.
Speaker 3: Charlie Sheen, who is Amelio's younger brother.
Speaker 1: He plays Dick Brewer. Yes, go in there and cut
the son of a bitch in a half.
Speaker 6: I'm daring you.
Speaker 3: Billy who was actually supposed to be played by Patrick
Swayze Patrick Swayze, but Patrick Swayzey said, I've done too
many of these ensemble pieces.
Speaker 1: I was in the Outsiders, I was in Red Dawn.
I don't want to be that guy that's in these
group pieces every time. So now, thank you.
Speaker 3: Patrick Swayzey would have been awesome as a cowboy. Perfect, Yeah,
it's perfect. But Charlie Sheen does a fantastic job. He
does great, Okay, and then Dermott Maroney plays dirty Steve Stevens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're red ass Mexican Greece. You do it with
your horse.
Speaker 6: Mexican Greasa.
Speaker 3: They said that the prop guys came to him like,
all right, dude, you gotta have your face dirty the
whole time. You're always chewing tobacco, And so he would
chew actual tobacco. Oh and he like crams that chaw
in there like and they asked him that he was like,
he can't even close his lips right, So they said,
you know, we can make fake tobacco where it's like
tutsie rolls and he's like, no, no, man.
Speaker 1: Real tobacco. So he just he did the real deal.
So that is funny because the real person's name was
dirty Steve Yes. And they pointed out on Dan the
based on a True Story Young Guns episode, They're like,
the common practice was to take a bath once a week.
That's what everybody did. How dirty did you have to
be to be called dirty Steve? Back then everybody else
took a bath once a week.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I watched I listened to the commentary of
Young Guns, which I thought this was hilarious. So they
were lou Diamond Phillips and Casus Schmeska were saying to Dermottroney.
Speaker 1: They were like, dude, you were dirty. You were dirty
all the time.
Speaker 3: I took a shower every day because because.
Speaker 1: I just didn't. He goes when I washed my hair,
I did never use shampoo. It's like not washing, that's
getting wet.
Speaker 3: So he said that was that was kind of my contribution.
Speaker 1: I didn't use shampoo. You congratulations, you got your hair wet.
The dirt wet. So we got Terrence stamp As John.
Speaker 3: Mister Murphy is going to continue coming to you claiming
I've taken his property until I pronounced the thief and
shaken out of Lincoln.
Speaker 1: Who General Zodd, General Zod, which it was neat to
see him as a good guy.
Speaker 3: He was, I mean, he was genteel, smart, yeah, and
well meaning.
Speaker 1: Ye. And then you've got Jack Palance with this horrible
Irish accent.
Speaker 6: Well, the beltader has spoken, but he was.
Speaker 3: Still a great back guy. Yeah, he's always over the top.
He is well Englishman. And then you have Terry O'Quinn
as Alex McSween.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who was also in Tombstone as the mayor. That's right, Yeah,
we'll cross over there. That is right. There is a
connection right there. Okay, so let's talk about young guns
two real quick.
Speaker 5: All right, so.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about young guns too, real quick. Well, obviously
a lot of the same folks are involved, but it's
actually not a lot. It's three. It's only three. It's
only three. It's Billy the Kid, It's Chavez Chavez, and
it is Doc Carlott, which is interesting because some of
the guys that were killed, Dirtie, Steve and Charlie, they
didn't they didn't get guilled. No, they didn't die, which
is a shame because it had been great to see
them in Part two, and they had started writing Part
two while filming of Part one was still going on.
They thought, there's going to be some unanswered questions, there's
more to the story. We want to develop this thing,
and so John Fusco got a whole lot of Billy's
dialogue from actual newspaper interviews and reports that had been
done between eighteen seventy nine and eighteen eighty one. By
the way, Fusco also appears as the branded man in
that pit scene and Young Gun too bon Jovi in it. Yes, right,
he's got the JC for John Chisholm branded on it branded.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, should we talk about cameos now or wait,
let's talk about him now.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. I just mentioned it, so we
might as well. Right, So Young Guns two, Let's let's
talk about Young Guns one. Okay, let's talk about Young
Guns one. The cameos from Young Guns one? Okay, So
who shows up Tom Cruise? Tom Cruise, who's buddies with
Amelia Estevez because they were both in The Outsiders together.
That's right. Shot in Tulsa Oklahoma, Oklahoma. Little text connection there,
all right, Yeah, and so he had never been shot
in a movie before, and he's like, man, I'd love
it if I could get shot, Like, dude, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Of course, get this guy a mustache and a trench
code and cowboy hat.
Speaker 1: Okay, you have to look really quickly when after you
can use the freeze frame like every player has these days.
But are you sure.
Speaker 3: There's a scene where they are burning down Alex's house
and the regulators are trapped inside and they decide to
make a run for it.
Speaker 1: Right yep.
Speaker 3: They throw Billy out the top window spoilers in a box,
right okay, and he jumps up.
Speaker 1: Right yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Then Charlie comes out the side door. The next bad
guy who gets shot is Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1: Yeah. When you look, you're like, yep, that's Tom Cruise.
Yeah yeah, but I never knew it until I was
tell this little secret was revealed when we were looking.
It's fascinating.
Speaker 3: When he came to town, he said that, you know,
of course they're young or whatever, and they're like he's like, hey, guys,
what are you guys doing. They're like, well, I'm just
shooting this Guyboy movie. He's like, how about tomorrow we
go skiing. They're like, let's go.
Speaker 1: We're in New Mexico. So they all win skiing except
for Lou Diamond Phillips, who didn't know ski. He's also
scared of heights. He is scared of fight, which makes
that scene the Spirit worlds.
Speaker 5: You see, Sugar, You see the son.
Speaker 1: He's standing up on that rock, like thirty feet off
the ground. Yeah. And if you look at his face
you see fear in his you do. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also cameo is Randy Travis. What Randy Travis.
Speaker 1: Randy freaking Travis Your country?
Speaker 3: No way, that's that's well, it's George. There is a
pure Country connection.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead. Christopher Kine, Yes directed Pure Country. Yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 3: Randy Travis is one of the guys operating in the
Gatling Gun What. Yes, Wow, Randy Travis. He takes out
Alex McSween.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, that's good.
Speaker 3: You want another cameo, Sure, another cameo bad guy who
gets killed? Yeah, Meliss, Oh yeah, he's sitting around on
one day, bored out of his mind. He's like, crap
and put me in let me get shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's short and extras. He didn't have anything to
shoot that day. It's like, make me one of the
bad guys. All right. So we're coming into Young Guns
too here where obviously a major character is Pat Garrett. Yes,
not played by the same actor. That's right. Do you
know who the actor was in the first one, Yes,
I do. His name is Patrick way Wayne, son of
Bruce Wayne John. Wayne John Wayne's son, freaking Wayne's son
was Pat Garrett.
Speaker 3: He was awesome and they had that scene in Young Guns.
It's it's kind of interesting. He comes to tell Billy
that he's in trouble, he needs to skin out and
go roll in Mexico. Yeah, right, and Billy actually turns
his back on him and says, Patt, are you my friend?
And if you look really carefully in the backgrounds out
of focus, his hand goes to his gun and then
he's like, yeah, Billy, I'm your friend, puts his hand down.
It's like, do I take this guy out? Nope, I'm
going to now And then of course yes in part two,
William Peterson from CSI Fame and he was in to
Live and Die.
Speaker 1: In las Manhunter. That's with Stephen Lang who was like Clinton.
They were both in Manhunter. Really yes, connections everywhere. Yeah,
Stephen Lang was the reporter that they set on fire.
I can remember that from that from watching it one
time back in the nineties. Yeah, I mean I remember
that scene I did. That was Stephen Lane. Yeah, okay.
He has this crazy, like very curly hairdoo. Interesting. He also,
by the way, was in the first movie we saw together,
which was Avatar. He's the general who's he's fantastic, bad
guy bad a. Yeah. I saw an interview with him
and they're like, so, did you get a percentage of
this movie? He's like, that's interesting. My son asked me
that question. But I got a percentage of this movie. Yes,
I did. I got zero percent of this movie.
Speaker 3: One percent of Avatar would have been a bazillion dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, okay.
Speaker 3: So we talked about William Peterson right, super famous now
because he was in CSI Forever.
Speaker 1: Yep, Okay.
Speaker 3: You also had Christian Slater who plays Arkansas Dave rudebah, Ye.
Speaker 5: Tell me something, Chavez was it the sad was just
putting it to a Mexican war.
Speaker 3: Was an Indian horror putting it to the whole goddamn Mexicans.
He was actually twenty years old wow when he shot Yeah,
because he's playing a twenty five year old.
Speaker 1: He was just like the kid in robin Hood Prince
of Thieves, right, that's right, Yeah, that's right. One year later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you have Christian Slater. You also have Alan
Ruck who played Cameron from Ferris Bueler's Day.
Speaker 1: Off when Cameron was in Egypt. Sorry, don't do that.
Take out that I was terrible. No, that's fine.
Speaker 3: He was thirty four when he shot this, which he's
not really a young gun. He was a farmer or whatever. Yeah,
but the amazing thing is that he was thirty years
old when he played Cameron.
Speaker 1: Nuts. Yes, but that character is not an actual historical figure.
That was William Henry French was not a true figure, right,
but Arkansas Dave Rudabah was and he had been with
the Regulator for quite a while, like he would he
had been with him. That was the other thing. There
were about twenty regulators, not six, right, so that was
a little Hollywood license that was done there. But he
was one of the original regulators.
Speaker 3: You also have a bout the Czar Getty. Yes, he
plays tom O Filliard.
Speaker 1: He was the kid that was in Lord of the Flies, right.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Yeah, he turned fifteen during the
shooting of Young Guns two. Right, he actually he's the
fourteen and a half and half is important. That half
has a lot of experience in there. He The interesting
thing about that character that he plays Toma Folliard. Tomo Filliard,
I think I'm saying that right. Historically that was one
of the best friends of Billy the Kid.
Speaker 1: Oh really, so when he was.
Speaker 3: Shot and killed as a regulator. Yeah, it wasn't this
you kill a kid, Patsy, No, it's just a He
was just a regular, same age guy as the.
Speaker 1: Rest of them. Right, Okay, So a couple of names
worth mentioning. We got Vigo Mortenson, oh gosh, yes, as
John W. Poe pre Lord of the Rings where he
was became mega famous. Got to have a movement me too.
Speaker 3: You also have Jenny Wright, who played Rob Lowe's wife
in sant Emo's Fire that also had Emeliu Stws. Yeah,
that's right, she plays Jane Goodall.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how we didn't mention the fact
that Dana Wheeler Nicholson was Mattie Blaylock and Tombstone, but
she was the love interest in Fletch. She was Missus Stanwick.
Missus Stanwick.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, we've never we haven't covered flod yet,
but we.
Speaker 1: Need to, Okay, So talking about those characters and historical
accuracy and that sort of thing. So the original screenplay
actually had Doc Skurlock living. At the end, Kiefer Sutherland
was going to live just like happened in real life,
going to Texas with his wife, right, right, And so
why did it and the way that it did well,
Apparently Keifer Sutherland said, Hey, I got scheduling conflicts and
I'm not going to come back to the Young Guns
franchise unless you have my character die in the Stinking
Springs shootout. And John Fusco was like, no, that's no, no, no, no,
Doc has to live. But ultimately he went ahead and
did what Keifer said, and that's why he dies. So
it was Keifer Keefer's doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the real Doug Scurloca lived until nineteen twenty nine,
I believe yeap nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 1: He died at age eighty. Which here's a funny story
about this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got in a gunfight one time Doc Skurloc okay,
before he became a regulator.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of our card game. He got shot in the face.
Good thing. He went to medical school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he got let's talk about that. He
got the name doc because he studied medicine at Tulane.
Speaker 1: That was from New Orleans. He just left early. Yeah,
got shot in the face. Okay. The bullet took out
his front teeth.
Speaker 3: Okay, and exited his neck and it didn't even knock
him down. And so after the dude had fired his bullet,
he just raised his gun and blew the guy away.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Took one in the face and then returned fire killed
the guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fair fight. Sure, Okay. Were we talking about
Young Guns too? Yeah, we're talking about Young Guns too.
And you know, it's interesting. I saw the interviews on this,
like every single one of the returning characters obviously said
they liked Young Guns two better than Young Guns One. Now,
of course they're promoting the movie as well, so of
course they would say that. But I, like I said,
I remember liking it better when I was a kid too.
But one of the other things that Amelia Staves said
was he talked about the other Billy the Kid movies
that he had seen that might have had some influence
on it. He said, probably the biggest influence on this
movie was Sam Pick and Pause, Pat Garrett and Billy
the Kid, which was nineteen seventy three. I've never seen
that movie. Okay, so you know, do you know who
played Pat Garrett in that movie? Tell me James Coburn,
who played John Chisholm Mischism in Young Guns. You took
a lot of people's Now that's interesting. Yeah, there's another
Billy the Kid movie that came out in nineteen eighty nine.
What it was, I made for TV movie. Yeah, do
you know who played the part of Billy the Kid?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Val Kilmer? What yes? No way? Is your mind blown?
I actually saw that movie like he had the old
top at that like Billy the Kid has in the
old pictures, and it was I I can remember seeing
that movie and going, this is nowhere near as good
as Young Guns. I don't even know that I watched
it all the way through. But Val Kilmer nineteen eighty nine,
I mean, he's made top secret, he's made real genius.
But somehow nineteen eighty nine he's in a TV movie
as Billy the kids.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a good one that you're blowing my mind
with that. I didn't know that. Okay, young guns too.
I want to talk about a couple things.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3: Lou Diamond Phillips, yeah, almost died on set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I sent you this video. Yeah I seen, I
had seen it. I actually asked you. I asked you
because like, this is such a fantastic story. If you
don't know it, I'm going to be excited to tell it.
So you already know it, you go ahead. Wow, Okay,
So here's the deal. So I jump in. I can't help,
but I'm want to jump in. Ok go tell it. Okay.
Speaker 3: So they had already shot most of the dramatic scenes,
so now they're doing everything on horseback, and Lou Diamond
Phillips horse arrow with a pain in his butt from
day one.
Speaker 1: Yeah he is. He was from Texas, so he's like, oh,
I've ridden a horse before, and they're like, all right,
we'll give you the one that's part. By the way,
Lou Diamond Phillips is not Latino. He's Filipino. Yeah, he's
got a little cherokey in him, I believe. But yes,
mixed an Indians anyway.
Speaker 3: So I just found that interesting that he is not
Latino at all.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 3: So there's a scene where he's got chains on handcuffs
and they put a squib in between so that he
was going to come running one way, you know, Emilio
Estevez is coming the other way. Billy's gonna shoot boom,
break the pancuffs in half.
Speaker 1: Right, This was a scene that they had not planned, right,
and this was the last minute. Hey, we decided to
do this right.
Speaker 3: Well, he had just escaped from jail. He's supposed to
be hung, right, so he still had a noose around
his neck. Yeah, okay, Well the prop man hadn't had
a chance to score the noose, right, And so what
generally happens is if you're ever in any kind of
dangerous situation, there's always a way out, So they score
the noos in case something happens, and that way it'll
tear away if you get it hooked on something. Well,
here comes Millio and his gun, and here comes Lou
Diamond Phillips and his gun. They fire, that squib goes
off and Lou Diamond Phillips horse rears back high in
the air straight up. Yeah, tosses Lou off the horse. Well,
the noos gets hung in the saddle, so he's got
a real noose around his neck that's hooked to the
saddle and there goes arrow boom down the street. There
was like one thing and it was Mexico.
Speaker 1: Right, it was the desert. It was the desert. The
horse was dragging him to the barren desert.
Speaker 3: So he's being pulled right, choking to death. People are
chasing after him. The horse kicks Hi breaks his elbow, right.
Speaker 1: It broke his arm in two places, four places. Well, yeah,
and the two of them were compound. It came through
the skin. Oh gosh.
Speaker 3: So then they it continues to pull and it tears
through you know. He takes out this prop thing and
this woodpile and that thing, and then he finally hits
a thing of railroad ties, crashes and breaks his patilla.
Speaker 1: He was being dragged for like it was going on
and on. These horse hooves are like inches away from
his face. He actually gets kicked in the head at
one point. Oh my gosh, and he thought he was
usually he was like, this is it, this is it.
I'm having that moment that people have before they die.
I'm about to die.
Speaker 3: So he finally when he it hits that pile of
railroad ties. Yeah, it breaks the rope, Yeah, breaks the
rope crazy that's around his neck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, breaks his potella, breaks his potella on the railroad ties.
Speaker 3: So they have to airlift him because there's no ambulances
in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1: And it's going to be an hour before the helicopter
can get there, right, So they call the medic over
and it's Emelio Estevez on one side, the medic on
the other side, and everything that had been numb, and
then he starts lou Diamond Phillips, starts to feel the
pain everywhere, and he starts screaming. You know in the
movie when when Chavez is screaming, like, you're like, wow,
he's really that's the screaming that he's doing. And so
Ameliustevez is freaking out and he's like, give it morphne,
give it morphine. Yeah, and the medic's like no, no, no, no,
we don't know what kind of internal injuries. He says,
you know, the morphine could do something really bad to him.
He's like he grabs him by the shirt lapels. He's
like he is in pain, give him morphine, and so
I don't know the story whether he get the morphine
or not. I'm guessing so, but there's an hour wait.
Amelia Estevez lays down next to Lou Diamond Phillips and
just sits there and just holds him, comforts him, talks
to him the entire time until the helicopter gets there.
He was in the hospital for like six weeks or something.
Made me tear up when I heard that story. That's
a good friend. Their pals and easy being pals now.
Speaker 3: And there was no report whether or not Lou Diamond
Phillips was going.
Speaker 1: I'd say, i'se sweet Mary's ask how the hell did
you get him to do that? What's that mean?
Speaker 6: Anyway, I'd say, I'd say it's an ancient Neva whole word,
I mean stop.
Speaker 1: So practical jokes abounded on the set as well on
the set of the original movie when they the young
Guns won, when they came in, they all got a
package that was purportedly from the studio saying, you know,
this is what we think of your chances for success.
We're really rooting for.
Speaker 5: You, guys.
Speaker 1: And then you open up the package and it was
cout Chips. I think that was that was actually Amilia
Estevez and he had done that and he sent it off.
But he actually had been in a big breakup right
before this and was kind of sad and brooding for
the entire shoot for Young Guns one right, and so
to lighten the mood, lou Diamond Phillips puts makeup on
a sheep and then throws it into Amelia Estevez's trailer.
That's so nice of him. Yeah, his pals and snacking
on you. That's awesome. Okay, let's talk about some of
the things that they got right historically in Tombstone. Okay, yeah, okay,
So the shootout at the OK Corral. Yes, so the
line quoted by Doc at the end of the fight
at the OK Corral is historically true and was reported
in the Tombstone Papers reporting on the fight. When confronted
by one of the cowboys at point blank range, the
cowboy reportedly said I got you now, Doc, you son
of a bitch, which Doc gleefully retorted, here a daisy
if you do so, cool man, that's so cool.
Speaker 3: On that subject, listen to what Wyatt Or actually said
about Doc Holliday. Okay, I love this, it says. Some
years after the death of Doc Holliday, Wyatt was quoted
in an interview saying, quote, Doc was a dentist, not
a lawman or an assassin, whom necessity had made, a gambler.
Speaker 1: A gentleman whom disease.
Speaker 3: Had made, a frontier vagabond, a philosopher whom life had made,
a caustic wit, a long, lean, ash blonde fellow nearly
dead with consumption, and at the same time was the
most skillful gambler and the nervoust speediest, deadliest man with
a six gun that I ever knew. Nice, incredible.
Speaker 1: Did you know that?
Speaker 3: There's some talk about whether or not Doc Holliday actually
did end Johnny ringdow say that again, so Johnny Ringo.
It's been reported the Doc Holliday killed Johnny Ringo. He
kills him in the movie right over the temple, and
that's kind of generally accepted as what happened. However, there
was a bullet hole in the right temple and an
exit wound in the back of Johnny Ringo's head. Okay,
his revolver had one round expended and he was found
with his gun in his hand finger on the trigger,
and his boots were tied to his saddle. Okay, Okay,
so some people reported it as a suicide. Okay, My
question is when you commit suicide, how many people put
the gun to their temple?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: So they tied your boots to your saddles, so the
scorpions and snakes can't get in your boots?
Speaker 1: Right, Are you're gonna commit suicide?
Speaker 6: Why bother?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't buy it. I don't even I think
Doc Holliday killed him. I think so do Okay, So
we know Curly Bill in the movie shoots Fred White, right, ye, Marshall, Yes,
Apparently that's actually historically accurate as well. Apparently White Irp
had heard the scuffle going on between the two men.
He rushes out there to try to help out, and
he's whenever white Erp is padding down Curly Bill, Fred
White tries to take the gun out of Curly Bill's hand.
The gun goes off and kills Fred White. So that's
it was a little bit different than how it was portrayed,
but it's still kind of this accident like Curly Bill's
you know, he's like get up, you know, come on, Fred,
Like it was an accident, and so that was true,
Like they didn't know if it was really a murder
or it was just an accidental shooting, you know, as
he's trying to grab the gun out right. And so
that's why Curly Bill in real life didn't go to
prison for this. It was deemed not enough to convict
him of murder.
Speaker 3: I also know the true story, like Virgil got shot
in the arm and like destroyed his arm, he had
nerve damaged.
Speaker 1: Morgan got shot in the back. Had Morgan's actually went
through his right shoulder and out his left shoulder, like
it went through his whoa, Like it was worse than
they portrayed it in the movie. Wow, Yeah, that's incredible.
You know why er never ever got hit by a
bullet that is insane, Like never, like he at the
shootout at the River where Curly Bill gets killed. Yeah,
and they're like, that's true, that really happened, and it's
this crazy. You know, he's out there in the middle
of the fight. Yeah. I don't know if it was
that crazy, but it was still pretty crazy. And they
said afterwards his coat was full of bullet holes, but
none of them had actually touched on unbelievable. Unbelievable. You're saying, God,
reach down from heaven and stop those bullets from it.
Speaker 3: That's fascinating, a miracle. All right, let's talk about the
line I'm your huckleberry.
Speaker 2: Okay, whoa, I didn't think you had it in you.
Speaker 3: I'm your huckleberry.
Speaker 1: Why, Johnny Ringo?
Speaker 5: It looked like somebody had just walked over your grave.
Speaker 3: Great line. Yeah, it's punctuated so well in the movie.
Speaker 1: What does it mean? I didn't know until I started
doing some research. Tell me what you found out.
Speaker 3: All right, So here's here's the take. Right that the
handles on a coffin are called huckles. Okay, So essentially
it was I'm your huckle bearer, right, Okay, So a
hucklebearer is somebody who is your pall bearer. So essentially
saying I'm going to carry your body at your funeral.
Speaker 1: Interesting, But what's an actual huckleberry? Isn't that like a
little like spur, like a little cart dog from the seventies.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: All I know is that is supposedly where that came from.
Speaker 1: I'm your huckle bearer. So there you go. Okay, guys,
we're going to take a brief intermission and go to
our surely showcase. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: This week we've got Jeff Mazuka from the thirty something
Movie Podcast, just a good friend of ours, along with John,
Patton Bow and Dennis. Those guys over there are great.
Speaker 1: He's a better friend of mine than you. Yeah, he
likes me better. Well, I swear I when I don't
give it away, don't give it away? All right?
Speaker 7: Right, Hey guys, it's Jeff Mazuka, co host of the
thirty something Movie Podcast. I'm calling in with my final
judgment on one of your pairings because Jason had reached
out to me, Well, he'd actually reached out to Pat,
but had accidentally sent Pat's message to me, but assured
me that he had meant to reach out to me
as well, so I might actually be responding to a
pity invite.
Speaker 6: Regardless. The episode that I'm calling in.
Speaker 7: About is Jaws versus Jurassic Park. And where do I
even begin. I've shared with you how the pairing of
these movies blew my mind when I first heard you
talk about it, and I can't tell you how many
times the question of Jaws versus Jurassic Park will pop
into my head completely out of the blue.
Speaker 6: So on what merit does one make this decision.
Speaker 7: I love both of these movies equally and really dig
the similarities between them, despite being almost twenty years apart.
The mere fact that Spielberg had the forethought to do
as much as he did with so very little when
making Jaws so early in his career is quite remarkable.
The minimal approach to the movie monster goes a long
way in selling the threat to moviegoing audiences, and John
Williams's music also works on a minimal level.
Speaker 6: I believe it was d.
Speaker 7: Who had pointed out in your episodes that it was
essentially two notes that drove the whole musical narrative forward,
and the manipulation of those two notes and the tempos
and the pitch and tone that helps perceive the threat
as being.
Speaker 6: More real or less of a threat.
Speaker 7: I could go on and on about Jaws, because I
love that movie, But then there's Jurassic Park Again.
Speaker 6: You get Spielberg taking a stab.
Speaker 7: At making a monster movie, but you get the sense
that he had learned so much from his time making
Jaws and he was not going to make the same
mistakes he took a chance on utilizing CGI to showcase
his dinosaurs, which was a huge risk, and with a
great risk comes a great reward because his dinosaurs are magnificent.
But he still knew when to do more with less,
like the tremor vibrations in the puddle to help indicate
the threat of the t rex.
Speaker 6: He's showing us that he's a much.
Speaker 7: More disciplined director at this point in his career, and
John Williams score seems more full and rich and dynamic,
also showcasing a more matured artist. With the themes that
both fly and terrify, thrill and chill, Drastic Park landed
at a pivotal time for me in terms of grasping
my intrigue.
Speaker 6: One of those.
Speaker 7: Formative type movies for anyone who considers himself a movie
ban It was the same sense of awe and wonder
I had after I first saw Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
It's a film that just lands at the right time
to pique enough interest and again create such a sense
of awe and wonder. Plus I had just finished reading
the novel in a joint educational effort between my freshman
year English and biology classes, so.
Speaker 6: I was all in on this movie.
Speaker 7: But would there even be a movie of Jurassic Park
without there having been Jaws? And if there was, would
Spielberg still have directed it, And if so, would he
have been able to deliver on the same level as
what he gave us? Or was Jaws a necessary part
of the Jurassic Park equation?
Speaker 6: So does that earn it.
Speaker 7: The title of better movie because of its foundational principles?
When I look around at the movie posters on display
and my man cave, there was only one of the
two on display. Because this movie came out at just
the right time for me, and because I had such
a strong connection to it, and because it had done
just a little bit more to help shape my interest
in movies, I'm going to act a side with Jason
and say that Jurassic Park narrowly beats out.
Speaker 6: Jaws as being the better movie for me.
Speaker 7: Thank you, guys for giving me such a great question
to ponder and forgiving me the opportunity to share my thoughts.
Speaker 6: Keep up the great work.
Speaker 1: Uh, Jeff, what?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't blame you. I don't blame you because
it was an influential time. Siding with Jason, I can't
believe he doesn't have a Jaws poster. How do you
not have a Jaws poster? And your man game? I know, right,
you need to get on that.
Speaker 3: I'm giving us a pat on the back too, because
that's a great matchup.
Speaker 1: Heck ya it is if you miss those.
Speaker 3: That's a three parter back in the summer of twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: And every second is goal.
Speaker 3: That was back in the middle of COVID when we
had nothing better to do than just talk about Jaws
addressing part Yeah, And for the record, Jeff, I swear
I did text Pat right before you, and I copied
and pasted, but I didn't change the wording from Pat
to Jeff.
Speaker 1: I swear it's not a pition. But thanks Jeff, appreciate you. You
guys over there at thirty something. Keep up the great work.
You guys are awesome. All right, Now back to the show.
Let's talk about that Tom Mixed web we talked about.
He said that at the very end of the movie.
That's the last line of the movie, and Tom Mix
wept and you said, who the heck is Tom X?
To me? Right? So Tom Mix was one of the
very first movie Cowboys and one of the most famous
movie Cowboys and the Old Knock. When you the knock
that everybody does you know? Shave and hair cut two bits.
The second line of that song is who knows the
barber Tom mix That's where the song came from. Wow,
that's how famous he is. So it's a big deal
that he wept at Wiater funeral and was a huckle
bearer for him.
Speaker 3: That is that's that's a great story. Somewhere Roger Rabbit
is going crazy.
Speaker 1: Waiting for that, waiting for that.
Speaker 3: You know who almost directed Tombstone? This was in an
interview in the late nineties. John Carpenter almost directed Tombstone.
I can't figure that out, John Carpenter and Kurt Russell.
Speaker 1: Were you mean, like maybe they were gonna call John
Carpenter instead of George Costomos, Costamos whatever. Think about it.
Speaker 3: When Kurt Russell looks around and there's nobody directing except
for him, Yeah, I guess, Hey, I know a guy
does a good job. John Clark, Escape from New York
the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that would have been an interesting take.
Speaker 3: All right, let's I got a couple of stories for
you on young guns. So let's flip back over to
Young Guns.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, sounds good.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: So Christopher Kane, the director of Leon Guns. Yeah, he
is Dean Kin's father. Yeah, of Loews and Clark, Right,
Dean Kane. Yeah, so Dean Kane was a football player.
He was at Princeton. I think he had been in
a few movies while he was in high school on college. Anyway,
he came to visit the set. Uh huh, and he
brought his girlfriend, Brook Shields. What Brooke Shields?
Speaker 1: So wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 3: Dean Kine and Brooke Shields went to princetone at the
same time.
Speaker 1: They're the same age, I guess, So I guess she
was pretty young whenever she was super young.
Speaker 3: And so they show up. It's funny because even if
you're a member of the brat pack, which lou Diamond
Phillips said being in this movie automatically made me a
member of the brat pack, you can still be starstruck.
So when Brookshields show up, apparently all the guys were like, what's.
Speaker 1: Up, was like, hey man, that's right.
Speaker 3: Okay, just a couple of things. There was a scene
cut where Charlie goes to a whorehouse. Right, okay, you
actually see him visit a prostitute and she they're making
their transaction or whatever, and he says, ma'am, I just.
Speaker 1: Want to hold you. Okay, I remember that.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's a scene that with another additional scene that
was cut that sort of further explained that that's Charlie's mother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad they cut that scene.
Speaker 3: Well in case of Schimsko was like, I wish they
had to let that in. That was kind of didn't
really fully exp playing what was happening.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, No, thank you. I'm happy that they just
moved on quickly. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Now then I listened to the commentary. All Right, if
you grew up in the nineties, you know the song
Regulate by Warren g Yeah, play it right here.
Speaker 5: Regulators, you regulate any stealing of his property.
Speaker 1: We're damn good too.
Speaker 6: But you can't be.
Speaker 1: Any geek off the street.
Speaker 6: You gotta be handy with the steel, if you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, or you keep regular. No, it was a
clear black knight, a clear white man woman.
Speaker 3: He was on the streets trying to consume some searchful thing.
You have that whole monologue at the beginning that's directly
lifted from Young Guns, and it's Casey Chimesko and Charlie
beowdre is saying, you gotta be handy with the steel.
It can't be any geek off the street, right, that
whole thing. So in the commentary, they're like, hey, Casey,
how much you get paid for that song?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 1: That song was everywhere? And he's like, what you talk
about it? What's like that song? That rab sign?
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know what you guys, And I
believed him that he legitimately did not know anything about
that song.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's that's hilarious. How about that breaking
my set? I can't believe they they took my rings,
they took my rope.
Speaker 4: I look set.
Speaker 1: Damn one another thing.
Speaker 3: They talked about how cold it was the day that
they shot John Tunstall's murder, right, so so called is
like the coldest day on the set, and of course
they're out in the middle of New Mexico in the
winter time. That said that the stuntman who his job
was to stand up, get shot, fall off the stage right,
or fall off the cart or whatever. Okay, so when
he hit the ground it was like hitting concrete.
Speaker 1: Had to go to the hospital. Oh no.
Speaker 3: And the last story I have for you the soundtrack
for Young Guns two. Okay, I tried to entice you,
going track by track.
Speaker 1: You did, but I couldn't know.
Speaker 5: You couldn't.
Speaker 1: This album meant so much to me the summer night.
I'm sorry to dance on your engrave, your carede. That's okay,
that's terrible.
Speaker 3: So everybody hit us up on Facebook told me that
he should listen to the Young Gun's too centric.
Speaker 1: But here's the deal. Does this mean we can't be friends?
If I thought we couldn't be friends, I couldn't, all right.
So Amelia Estevez is good buddies with John bon Jovi, Okay,
all right, yeah?
Speaker 3: And I think it's because Richie Sambora at the time
had been dating Ali Shei.
Speaker 1: So you got too complicated. It's got you got.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got breakfast clubs linked to bon Jovi, and
that's how it works, right, right. So Joan bon Jovi
visited the set and he was hanging around and Emelio said,
I want you to provide a song for the movie.
Speaker 1: He goes, I want you to let us choose wanted
dead or alive?
Speaker 3: Right, And John's like, well, okay, but those lyrics don't
really fit the story.
Speaker 1: Of the movie. True. He's like, so let me we
just write something.
Speaker 3: So they all go out for cheeseburgers one day, right,
So they're all sitting around a table and Keeper Solan
said that John actually just started to get quiet and
he started to write on a napkin and they're all
just munching, just hanging out and munching.
Speaker 1: Drinking beers and just hanging out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he said, after about ten minutes, John laid
the napkins in front of Amelia and said, here's the song,
and it's gonna be a hit. That song, Blaze of
Glory's got to number three.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Amelio still has those cocktail napkins framed.
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, that's awesome. I wish I could
get a picture of those. Yeah, so good. Yeah, that's awesome.
The soundtracks score wise on these are not automated. I
liked the soundtrack on Young Guns two better than the
one on Young Guns one, although the one on Young
Guns one did a nice job of being kind of
edgy and more eighties sounding. But they brought Allan Sevestri
in to do the soundtrack for part two we don't remember.
We remember Alan Savestri from Back to the Future of course,
Romancing the Stone, and then of course he went on
to do you know, the Marvel movies, which is not
an insignificant thing at all. For Tombstone, our composer was
a guy named Bruce Brought. He had done mostly TV
series and the one that, like the last TV series
that he did, that he composed for before he hit
the big movie scene. Everybody knows his song.
Speaker 4: It's the theme from Dallas Whoa.
Speaker 1: And so right after that he composed the theme for
He composed the score for Silverado Kevin Costner, all that
good stuff, right, and so then that, you know, that
leads him down a path with more movies, most of
which you probably don't know. He did The Monster Squad though,
that's one. He also did Lost in Space, which came
out in ninety eight. But this one I thought he
did a fantastic job of putting music that led the
story without being overwhelming.
Speaker 3: All right, So the composer for Young Guns one is
this guy named Anthony Marinelli. Okay, Now the interesting thing
about Anthony Marinelli he worked.
Speaker 1: For Quincy Jones.
Speaker 3: Okay, Marinelli and his former partner Brian Banks are credited
with performance and synthesizer programming on Thriller.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: The same guy, Yes, the same guy who wrote the
score for Young Guns performed on Thriller.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He also was involved with the soundtrack for War Games
and Over the Top just to throw a couple, and
Demolition Man if you have to sit through that, John
Reed loves Demolition Man. He didn't even know what the
shelves are for.
Speaker 3: Okay, So before we get to final judgment, Yes, there's
one piece of the pie that I want to talk
about from Young Guns Too.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and I.
Speaker 3: Think we talked about it briefly, but Young Guns Too
takes the legend of Brushy Bill Roberts.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, right, oh yeah, this is huge. Yeah, we
got to talk about this.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So there's a guy who said I am Billy the Kid.
Speaker 1: I mean, the movie begins with Brushy Bill in the
desert saying I want my pardon from Governor Wallace, like
I was promised before I die. Yes, yes, true, that
is true. This is literally this guy existed and claimed
to be Billy the Kid.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 1: They had court cases about it.
Speaker 3: I know, right, They wanted to exhum Billy the Kid's
mother to take her DNA to compare it with Brushy Bill.
Speaker 1: Because they couldn't take Billy the Kid because his grave
had gotten washed away in a flood and they didn't
know where he was.
Speaker 3: We don't know where his body is, right, It's incredible that,
like researchers have, they've done facial recognition, they didn't.
Speaker 1: Unsolved mysteries on this guy. I mean, this is not
this is a real deal. But they did the ninety
three percent match. That's pretty solid. That seems like a
big deal with me. I mean because you just got
to think about it. Not only did this guy claim
to be Billy the Kid, yes, which I mean, let's
just think about it. Just to make that claim, you
got to be if you were crazy, right, you go,
you're gonna be like, okay, but you don't look anything
like him, right, No, this guy looks like him ninety
three percent, And apparently he knew stories that only Billy
or somebody who had ridden closely with Billy would have known.
Listen to this. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Former Jesse Evans gang member Jim McMichaels, along with Severo
Diego's Martil Abo and Jose Montoya, all of whom had
known Billy the Kid, signed affidavits verifying their belief that
Brushy Bill Roberts was, in fact Billy the Kid.
Speaker 1: Pat Garrett had quickly buried the body after the death. Yep, quickly, yes,
And somebody that was there with him was like, Nope,
that wasn't Billy the Kid. That was some other guy
that he buried. Right.
Speaker 3: So the witnesses, right were Poe Yep the guy that
Vigo Mortensen. He had never seen Billy the Kid to
recognize him, right, Yeah, Pad Garrett, of course he had Billy.
Speaker 1: The Kid in the room and it was dark. Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of the people there said, that's not kidd.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay. Are we about to go to final judgment? Yes? Okay,
So there's one more thing that we've overlooked and I
cannot bear to overlook it.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 1: We didn't bring him up in casting, we didn't bring
him up in lines. But other than wider up and
doc Holiday, he probably has the most memorable lines in
the home movie Mister Billy Bob Thornton as Johnny Tyler,
Johnny Tyler man cap Nice. So all of those lines,
this is Billy Bob's breakout performance. Right, Like he went
on to become a megastar after this movie, like sling
Blade made him something special. We had simple planned. I mean,
he did a lot of great stuff, but this was
really the first movie that you saw him and he
was a tub and it rises it out of a
tub like you. So he's got all these lines that
he's spitting out. I can't tell you how many times
I've said, it's like I'm playing cards with my brother's
kids or something. Right, So none of those lines were scripted.
All they said to Billy Bob Thornton was go be
a bully, pressed all money.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm sitting here playing cards with my brother's
kids or something.
Speaker 1: And he threw all of those gold nugget genius quotable
lines out on his own. That's awesome. You back that
queen one more time. I'm going to plow you up. Sorry,
I can't say the rest of that line Wildcats as Sorry?
Is that affect this? In fact? That is a fact?
All right?
Speaker 3: Are we ready for final judgment between these three awesome movies?
Speaker 1: Yeah? This is really hard. This is really hard. But
play your final judgment music here, it comes. Okay, you're
good person.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, I really think I'm gonna be
in the minority.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, here is my final judgment.
Speaker 3: Before I give that to you, let me just throw
this out.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: I was born in nineteen seventy three, which meant I
was about fifteen sixteen, fifteen.
Speaker 1: When Young Guns one came out.
Speaker 3: I was seventeen when The Guns two came out. I
was a young gun.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So when I saw those two movies first, they blew
me away. You know, the idea of MTV cowboys really
appealed to me. These guys are a little bit older
than me, not a lot older than me, but they're
gun slingers, they're law men, they're wild, they're rebels, they're
having fun. They're shooting up the old West.
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want to do that?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: And then you take Tombstone, which I saw in college,
which I loved, and it's totally horrible.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I loved all the white stuff, but that's those guys
were older men right now, had tons of fun. Doc
Holliday is awesome, Kurt Russell is kicking bit as well.
Speaker 1: White Herb.
Speaker 3: But the love story is like an anchor around the
neck of someone trying to swim. It just totally fell
flat for me. Okay, so I am going to rank
Young Guns one as number one, right behind it Young
Guns two at number two, and then in last place,
but just by millimeters is Tombstone. Oh my word, They're
all interchangeable. I can throw any in at any time.
I watched the whole thing.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, no, all right, what
do you got what do you got to I got
a loss of respect for you, my friend. Okay, So
I watched Young Guns one and Young Guns two with
my boy, Yes, right, Caleb. I wanted to watch Tombstone
with him, but basically I couldn't get it in and
the time that we had he actually got in a
fight at school split it from school. I'm a little
worried it was had something to do with the movies
we watched anyway, and he say, I'm your hunk, right,
I know that's the way it went. Yes, So, going
into this like my preconceived notion, I was like, Okay,
I know, I'm picking Tombstone as the winner. But then
I started thinking about it. I was like, man, I
really did like Young Guns too. It was really really good.
And it was better than Young Guns one, and so
I got it. It may be it may push out Tombstone.
Tombstone may go to number two. Young Guns Too may
go to number one. Okay, once I watched the movies,
I completely threw all of that out, completely threw it out.
So I remembered Young Guns one as being kind of
it seemed like it was grainy and old fashion, and
it was which didn't appeal to me when I was
in my teenage years. But now looking back at it,
it's a better made movie. It's a better made movie
than Young Guns two. And my eleven year old agreed
with me when we got when we're three quarters into
Young Guns two, he's like, dad's a great movie, but
it's not as good as Young Guns one. I was like, wow,
boy wow. And he was really upset that they killed Dick.
I was. I was talking to my wife in the
car We're taking him to practice, and I'm talking about
Young Guns one, and he's like, I can't believe they
killed Dick. She's like, well, I haven't seen it, so
thanks for giving that up. So I flipped on those.
I don't think Young Guns Too better. It's good. It's
a great movie, but it's not better than one. One
is better. But when we come in for the number
one spot, I have to say Tombstone. Yes, the love
story is terrible, and yes, you could cut it out
and you would have a perfect movie. It is imperfect
because of the love story. Yes, but when you're comparing
the good parts of Tombstone versus anything in Young Guns
one or two, Tombstone wins the day hands down. Young
Guns one comes in second place, Young Guns two and third.
That's my final judgment on it.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right, everybody out there, we want to
hear from you. Let us know these are three great movies.
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Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much. We'll see you next week.