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Speaker 1: You would never mix up your peanut butter with watermelon,

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or even Taylor Swift with the piano. Guys, then again

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you might, well, that's what this is all about. Arro

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dot net a r r oe dot net, seventeen different

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podcasts to choose from for your driving or just being

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at work, entertainment. How are you doing today, I hear you, Well,

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I'll tell you what. You have been a part of

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my life, the entire journey. And the reason why is

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because my father used to come into my room because

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I wanted to be a radio jock as a preteen,

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and he would come in there and he would listen

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to every single song that I was going to put

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on my radio station. And every time that I would

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put on one of your forty five's, my dad would go, see,

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this is it. This is what you need. This is

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what you need to base this radio station on. And Melwo,

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I mean, you have no idea how much you you

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played a major role in the creation of my career.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad because this is it.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is is the fact that you're sharing this.

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It is amazing to me because Joel Whitburn and even

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Rolling Stone Magazine did not give me what you're sharing

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with me, and this is it marvelous and getting better,

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because that's the attitude I love to hear from my

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favorite people.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, great, I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: So to jump onto that train to write a book, though,

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that means you got to step inside that closet that

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you've thrown everything into, or go underneath the bed, or

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go up into the attic. You got a journey you took,

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that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a challenging one too, because for me, first

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of all, it's my first book, and it's not the

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same as doing a concert. Of course, you're reaching people,

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but you have to do it in a different way.

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And when you're doing a concert or a play, the

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script is written for you, so you know what your

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guidelines are. But here, I think I wanted to be

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cautious that, especially some of the downs didn't hurt anybody else.

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That's the main thing.

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Speaker 1: How do you stay in control of something like that,

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because that means you've got to go back in there

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and refeel that emotion.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's not the difficult part because I've had a

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lot of time to get healing and distance from some

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of the things that happened to me what the challenge

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would be. You can't do that by yourself because it

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can't be just your decision because you have no idea

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what some people even know about you. So I had

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a team with people kind of help me set the guidelines.

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What should you say, what shouldn't you? And some of

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them I agree with, and some of them, well, it's

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my story. So I can't just let them say what

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they want. I have to pick. I have to try

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to choose that. You know, Okay, you might have to

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have a little clothe me, but you got to talk

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about this. I know what people are saying, or well

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maybe they're right, but you don't really know. It's not

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an easy choice.

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Speaker 1: Well see, you bring up a very interesting point there

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in the way of it's what people don't know about you.

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And that's exactly one of the reasons why I became

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the jock that I did on the radio was because

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not enough people were doing the Casey Kasem thing or

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the Dick Clark thing. Tell me the story about this artist,

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so that when I go get that album, I'm going

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to be much more in love with them, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the point is to a love relationship

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by exposing yourself and communicating with people and finding out

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about them. We know all of us have terrible things

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about us, but we're not hiding those things, but we're

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trying to focus on how do we unite with so

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much tearing at you? And I think that's what makes

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any story interesting.

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Speaker 1: So did you ever use what I call hidden speak

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as a way to get your music out there? And

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hidden speak is that one thing that you know how

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you're truly feeling, or how an event took place, but

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through the power of writing and creative spirit, you were

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able to take that experience and twist it and turn

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it into a brilliant love song or a jazz piece.

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Speaker 2: I would if I was a songwriter, but I ain't why.

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Speaker 1: You had me convinced that you were the mac daddy.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I've learned is when you collaborate

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with people, make sure that they will fit with regardless

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of what they're doing with you. Make sure you learn

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how they function, so you don't try to make them.

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they do and how how do they How do they function? Yeah?

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And uh, then then you try to pay yourself with

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them and in terms of telling my story, I've had

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a team where people just help me do it. That's all.

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I think. The spirit is there for anybody to talk

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about themselves or tell their stories. Maybe not necessarily do

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a book, but I think everybody can write a book

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really well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what the thing about it is, though, is

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that look at the collaboration that you've done with Kevin Taylor.

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I mean, now I understand this even better because now

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now I go into it, I'm going, oh my god,

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because collaboration is one of my hot words. I love

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that word collaboration. So when you speak of it, you're

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on my street.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Because so then you you can understand how Kevin

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Taylor will take all the information and stories and testimonies

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over time and pieces together and put them in sections

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and stuff. Then he would put them in order, and

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he would put them in a language that's not just

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you're talking with each other, but it's a book. It's poetic,

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it's organized, it's entertaining. That's what Kevin did.

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Speaker 1: See. I love a person like that because I am

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so guilty of going into my own daily writing saying

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there's nobody else that that files the way that I

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do there's nobody else that will sit there and you know,

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create these chapters and these folders and things. And now

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I need to meet Kevin too, because you obviously learned

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this from Kevin. Because I mean, you've got to be

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able to put something in that box and come back

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to it when it's time to use it.

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Speaker 2: Right. You can't just put it out there because there's

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once again, you know all the orders because you've lived

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this in all the different pieces of somewhere in your subconscious.

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But that's not what You can't give them all of

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your subconscious. You have to give them what you have

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been to your collaboration, what you know from your own experience. No,

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they want and need for this particular subject, this particular time.

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Because this is my first book, I hope it will

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only be the first, and I'll do more so I'll

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cover other areas in other books. Have that in mind

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as my first guidance kind of limitation. Don't go outside borders.

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That's what I'm saying, borders.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the way that you really put it

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in here inside the storylines is the fact that and

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heart is instead of asking what's next. You pretty much

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commanded it. This is next. I love that attitude because

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it's like so many times people go, so what are

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you gonna do next? I don't know, I don't know,

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and it's like not mel but more she knows exactly

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what she's going to do.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's my team, though, because we know we have

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to put it together and we have to know what's next.

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Especially after longevity, you can't just sit there and bask.

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back back, back back, I want to remember back, but

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you got to plan for what's next because it's here.

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Speaker 1: It's so true that you say that, because you know,

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so many people like to live in their past or

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they like to live so far in the future, when

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you're living in this moment of now, when it is here.

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Now we can take on that roller coaster ride that

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you're talking about inside these chapters, because I mean, you

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face that journey, you face that wall, and here you

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are today and it's like, oh my god, she made it.

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Speaker 2: But also you gotta know what's next, because you got

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to know it's going to be a roller coador. It

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could be so get in this. Give them the company

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that makes good roller coasters, you know, the belts are

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closed if you don't get flown out.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know the plan now, and you know

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that's the way the entertainment industry really works. Because just

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when you think you're climbing that hill and you're gonna

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have a smooth ride down the other side, ah, there's

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gonna be something that's gonna get in a way pasisely.

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Speaker 2: And it's a good example of how life can be.

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So I'm saying that, you know, these kinds of examples

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are good for everybody, regardless of what their life is.

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Speaker 1: See, because I think we're all born creative. Just something

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stands in the way of going I'm gonna go a

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different direction. I'm going to become a follower instead of

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a leader.

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Speaker 2: Right, But we're still creatures of creativity, no matter how

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limited or broad it is, or what area it is.

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That's where creatures are creative. We're made like that.

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Speaker 1: Now, mail, but I got it, Okay, Now you're touching

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another area. I've got an iHeartRadio channel called creativity is

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an addiction. Do you believe that creativity is an addiction

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or do you think it's a wave of life.

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Speaker 2: It's a wave of life. It's a it's a part

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of everybody. Even if you don't have all your mental facilities,

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you're going to be creative. I mean, well, I don't

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think it's you that do it. I think that's what's

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in you. I think God puts in you so it

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does itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can't shake it. I don't care who

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you are and how strong you might be, you can't

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shake it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean I noticed that people

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who are really creative, especially in the way that we're

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talking about now, that you can recognize that's what he's

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creative without. They have a certain patterns that they live

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in do just like a person who's tall or short.

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It's part of who you're made to be.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Melbournmore coming up

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next the name of her book This is It Marvelous

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and getting better. We are back with Melbournemore. So now

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when it comes to your creativity, I mean when, when

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do you know that it's time to step into that?

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Because somewhere along the line, something whispered into your heart

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that said, Melba, now is the time release the story.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, my daughter said that, she said, Mama, everybody

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got a book.

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Speaker 1: With you, Okay, yep, just say it's.

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Speaker 2: Time for you to do this. So but as far

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as the other aspect of creativity, now that I know that,

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first of all, I'm an artist, so that means you

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focus on your creativity. So I kind of organized my

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life so that I take the first part of my day.

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Give you to the Lord, be quiet, see what he

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wants to do with this day, because he's the reds

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the creator of everything.

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Speaker 1: Right yep.

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Speaker 2: Because we'll create, but we'll create the wrong things. We'll

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create chaos. So you want to put everything in order,

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or you let him put it in order, and say, okay,

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what do you want to do? What do you want

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me to do with this day? How do you want

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to start it? And you try to do it you can,

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and then you see what he's telling me. Then you say,

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this is it. It's going to do it. But then

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you show it to people and I say, oh god,

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she knows exactly what it is. It makes you look good.

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Speaker 1: My hands are raised in the air and I'm saying, hey, amen, amen,

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oh my god, you are speaking. This is the kind

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of language that a lot of people need to understand.

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It's that creativity is going to reach out and bite you.

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But don't run away from it. Face the chariot, face

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the fire, Get in there, get it done, because on

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the opposite side of that is going to be somebody

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that needs exactly what you're willing to deliver, and you're.

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Speaker 2: Going to get such great reward that you will enjoy

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yourself too. You will be denied anything you get, way

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way more than you had any idea you would if

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you But you can get the courage. It's not always easy.

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Speaker 1: To do that. Yeah, you really got me on chapter six, though, girl,

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Because on the other side of the rainbow, how many

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times have we said that, you know, it's almost like

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the grass is greener on the other side of the

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fans ooh those Capital years ooh man, I mean we

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all heard those stories of what it's like to be

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at Capitol Records.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable, and I do some incredible things with them. Because

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of the circumstances there, I was able to record the

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lift of your voice and sing. There had many, many,

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many hit records. I think that's where I probably had

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well the culmination of a lot of my dance hits.

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I think most of the hit songs that I've had

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have been dance records. I can't, but people could dance

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formula to me. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But did you ever have a point though, I mean,

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you know when that iconic building, I mean you you

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sit there and you and you go wow, when when

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before you step into it, did you have a moment

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with God that said you know where you were being

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grateful that? Because once you step inside that Capitol building,

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Oh my god, it's a world all its own and

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it's in control of a creative universe.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you see who else you're around was and

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you realize you're in the number yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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you get it. You get it in England. Yeah, I

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mean I never thought, oh I'm great, I'm I'm Oh

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my god, look who's here? Look who's here? Look where

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I am? You realize yeah, that's you too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One of those people, the ever popular and so

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lovable Dion Warwick. My god, I've got I've had so

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many beautiful conversations with Dion. What what is it about

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that generation sound where it really does feel like that

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you're more grateful for what has happened than saying nah

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I went to number one, I went to It just

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seems like you're going, But you can too. That's what

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I keep picking up is that you can too, but

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you're gonna have to do the journey as well.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was a time in our country when we

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healed somewhat from slavery. In all the years of coming

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up out of that and all the different stages of

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different races and culturals, cultures coming together. That makes us America.

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And that's expressed in the music. And you have it expressed,

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I think in different ears in different ways. And Miss

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Dion has a powerful gentleness and her songwriters that she

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moment wake up, yes, wake er, I see a little bit.

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Isn't that sweet? Things like that? Well, I mean, did

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you're so sweet? And and they're dance they're dance songs.

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They're not like you know, like the song that I

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have now it is called no Filter.

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Speaker 1: It's not really.

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Speaker 2: But but it's sweet and gentle. I think it's just

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it's the time of the culbination of all the people.

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Because you you you make records for masses of people,

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not for yourself or for uh and for for genres,

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which means whole categories. So there has to be a

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whole spirit that you touch the center of when when

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you do that, and when you talk about Dion's era

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and some of the music that she did, that occurs

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to me, that's definitely a strong, strong song, strong part

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of the gentleman there was. I remember during that time too,

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was a little bit later when disco came in, at

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the moment you had a disco record. Ye. To say

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how certain music in a certain times really kind of

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penomizes what the era is feeling like, or what it's about,

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what the spirit of it.

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Speaker 1: Is one of the things that you do inside this book.

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And I'm so so blessed by the opportunity to go

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through your list. You credit a lot lot of people,

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and I'm so proud of you for doing that because

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it didn't just take meil but to get here, it

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took all these people, and well.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't think of all of them.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about that. I was gonna say,

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how did you even remember this list? Because I can

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give you four or five, but my god.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well it's important because I think too every

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day when you get up and go do something, how

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can I have an interview if you weren't there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, it's very basic. And then as I'm running

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my first book. It's a kourage me. Oh my goodness.

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You know this is what I do every day. But

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I can't not do that now because it's only one page.

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You know, one's face. It's a paramon in your mind.

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This is not you by yourself, so you try to

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think of everybody that you can.

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Speaker 1: So then when when you talk about waking up to

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take on the day, I mean, is that the reason

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why creative people like to wake up at two, three, four,

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five o'clock in the morning because we can't wait to

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get the day started.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's joy because the energy is action things. These

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are realities that are in your mind first. So it's

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like doing something actually and it activates you. If people

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don't sleep well because they can't really turn off their minds.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I'm with you on that. I can relay

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with that. Really. Yes, I'm not that creative.

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Speaker 2: I can sleep very well.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, to me, that's true. Oh it's crazy

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because if it because the way that I try to

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hide it. I'll research, i'll write, I'll do all these

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different things. It's like, Okay, I'm feeding the monster, feeding

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the monster, and all of a sudden, when when I

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think I'm tired. The monster goes, let's do it again,

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Come on, good, jump back.

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Speaker 2: And the monster says it with such a joy you

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can't resist.

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Speaker 1: Right, It's so true. There are many times I'll go

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into prayer. I say, Lord, please, come on, I've only

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got so much energy in me. Man, come on, you

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gotta give me a chance here.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, well I know I know that part. Because

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you know God, he'll burn you out. If you want

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to say, okay, can I take a break? Sea, you

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do not because you ask not.

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Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about what

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you're doing, Melbolle, because you talked about the new song

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and you've got this brand new book. And here's the thing.

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We are living in the first generation ever where every genre,

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every group of people from the Generation Alpha to you know,

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the baby boomers, everybody is calling every music their music.

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So there's no separation between songs anymore.

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Speaker 2: Right. I don't know that. I just know it's so

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huge and it's growing by the mean by the day.

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I can't keep up with the categories.

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Speaker 1: Nope, neither can I. Nope. As long as we have you,

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we're straight. Ask my dad. He'll tell you got to

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get that mailbore get more of her on that side.

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Speaker 2: So what you're already expressing is crossing generations, which I

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think is a good thing. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow, What is your website so people can follow you

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and everything that you're doing so they can give you

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some love.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir melvemore dot com is my website. The book

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is going to be available on Amazon, and of course

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you can always go on YouTube and find me Instagram

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with no book the number one and more.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Please come back to this show anytime

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in the future. The door is always going to be

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open for you, Melba.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. You're incredible. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay, and you'll be creative?

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Oh I will. I'll take you up on that now, heartbeat.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

