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<v Speaker 1>So my lawsuit against Attorney General Toblanche over the Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>files is just one part of a bigger movement to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve transparency and truth when it comes to the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>cover up that is happening in real time in American history.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of that movement and part of that progress

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<v Speaker 1>relies upon Congress doing its job on oversight to expose

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<v Speaker 1>people that are actively conspiring to hide very important people's

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<v Speaker 1>involvement in these Epstein files. And they're also trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that we don't get the unredacted documents. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why the role of Congress from Robert Garcia as the

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<v Speaker 1>Chair of House Oversight, That's why having a majority by

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats in Congress through winning those races in November become

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<v Speaker 1>so critically important. Congress from Robert Garcia is fighting so

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<v Speaker 1>hard on so many different fronts, not just the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>But he has made it explicitly clear that once Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>regain the majority and he becomes the Chair of House Oversight,

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<v Speaker 1>all bets are off when it comes to trying to

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<v Speaker 1>reel in House Oversights investigation into the Epstein files. He

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<v Speaker 1>talks about public hearings, he talks about using subpoenas versus

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<v Speaker 1>this BS transcribed interview thing where nobody's under oath, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not videotaped, and they're not public. This is the type

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<v Speaker 1>of transparency that we deserve and we demand from our

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<v Speaker 1>members of Congress. Congressman Garcia joins me to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about why James Comer, the current chairff House

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<v Speaker 1>Oversight Republican, why his claim that the investigation by House

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<v Speaker 1>Oversight into the Epstein files getting wrapped up by Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>of this year, why that's a pipe dream, and why

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks Malania Trump is recipient number one of a

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<v Speaker 1>subpoena from House Oversight once he becomes the chipper. Joining

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<v Speaker 1>me now is somebody that I have always said and

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<v Speaker 1>continues to be one of the greatest fighters for transparency,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in Washington, d C. Congressman Robert Garcia, Congressman, it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>To see you.

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<v Speaker 3>Always good to see you, Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I just came out of a big

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<v Speaker 1>hearing yesterday on my lawsuit against oh I was about

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<v Speaker 1>to call him acting, but I guess he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>He crossed that threshold.

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Todd Blanche over the Epstein files, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is something that you and I have in common when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the pursuit of getting the unredacted files.

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<v Speaker 1>Were redacted for the proper stuff, with holdings for the

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<v Speaker 1>proper stuff, but otherwise compliance with the law. I stumbled

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<v Speaker 1>on a quote I have to start with you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>from the Chair of Oversight, James Comer, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I fully expect criminal referrals and some things we found

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<v Speaker 1>enough that I believe the Department of Justice should look

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<v Speaker 1>into certain people. We're going to do everything we can

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<v Speaker 1>to hold anyone accountable who's still alive. Because he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>this after quote years of depositions on Comer promising criminal

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<v Speaker 1>referrals by Christmas, it's August, and I'm a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that we're not in a better position to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to make some serious criminal referrals to DJ on

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<v Speaker 1>this absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look a couple of things. One, thank you first,

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<v Speaker 4>Katie for everything you're doing. Obviously we're following it very closely.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really important. I think the public should know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyone you know, obviously you and your capacity others are

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<v Speaker 4>involved in other pieces of the investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>All these lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 4>Particularly what you're doing is so critical in pushing the

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<v Speaker 4>courts and getting the truth, pushing the DJ So thank

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<v Speaker 4>you for.

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<v Speaker 3>All you're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, look, I think it's comical that James Comber

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<v Speaker 4>is now saying a few things.

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<v Speaker 3>He's saying, we're gonna get criminal referrals. Okay, great, we

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<v Speaker 3>want to see him.

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<v Speaker 4>He's saying the Epstein investigation is going to be wrapped

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<v Speaker 4>up by the end of the year. What yeah, I look,

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<v Speaker 4>he's living on another planet. The reality is we have

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<v Speaker 4>not had one public hearing on the Epstein investigation in

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<v Speaker 4>the con not one. So I don't know where these

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<v Speaker 4>these criminal referrals and the investigation, how it's going to end.

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<v Speaker 4>When we've actually brought nobody in front of the public,

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<v Speaker 4>then majority of the witnesses he's put in front of

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<v Speaker 4>us have not been under oath, and so we're asking

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<v Speaker 4>all of these witnesses who we want to speak to,

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<v Speaker 4>and granted we've gotten some good information and some good leads,

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<v Speaker 4>but but they've also not been under oath, and so

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<v Speaker 4>my confidence level and thinking that they've all been honest,

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<v Speaker 4>honest and truthful is not really there. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 4>think many of them have been straight out lying or

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<v Speaker 4>deceiving the committee and to not have them under oath

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<v Speaker 4>really limit our ability, uh to put in place, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>all the protections of holding those folks accountable right to

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<v Speaker 4>the law. So that's very problematic. And then this idea

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<v Speaker 4>that commit the majority and the DOJ haven't really sat

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<v Speaker 4>down with the survivors and to understand their stories and

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<v Speaker 4>get their perspective, except for this kind of rushed meeting

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<v Speaker 4>that Todd Blanche set up before his confirmation. Look, we're

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<v Speaker 4>just getting started on uncovering all the layers of this investigation,

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<v Speaker 4>the financials, what's not been released. James Comer should be

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<v Speaker 4>calling for the other half of the Epstein files that

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<v Speaker 4>have not been released. I mean, he wants to close

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<v Speaker 4>an investigation when half the evidence and likely some of

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<v Speaker 4>the most important the public hasn't even seen yet. So

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<v Speaker 4>we have a lot of work to do when we

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<v Speaker 4>flip the House and actually have real subpoena power and

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<v Speaker 4>access to be filing lawsuits in the courts, which fortunately

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<v Speaker 4>so many others and you, especially in your case most

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<v Speaker 4>importantly are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I want to get to how important it

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<v Speaker 1>is for the Democrats to have a majority so that

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<v Speaker 1>you are the chair of House Oversight in November, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted you to please remind the viewers who are

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in, because this is a very important perceptional thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to make sure is crystal clear. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the chair, James Comer, who dictates whether these interviews that

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<v Speaker 1>are being done with people that are coming in front

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<v Speaker 1>of oversight, whether they are just transcribed interviews, or whether

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<v Speaker 1>they are done like under oath, on video, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>because I, as a trivelawyer, have a frustration that these

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<v Speaker 1>are not done on videos so that we can see

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<v Speaker 1>these people's credibility, their body language, the way that they're

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<v Speaker 1>maybe evasive in the way that they're answering. And to

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<v Speaker 1>your well taken point, the absence of an oath under

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<v Speaker 1>penalties of perjury, and I understand false statements to Congress

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<v Speaker 1>are still a crime, but there is something incredibly powerful

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<v Speaker 1>about taking an oath to tell the truth, knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>there is very real consequence if you don't tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and it's we just you know, We've asked Comer

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<v Speaker 4>to change the style of these interviews. We've asked them

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<v Speaker 4>to make them public, We've asked them to video tape them,

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<v Speaker 4>We've asked them to put them all under oath, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's refused, and I think, you know the question, we

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<v Speaker 4>have to ask the question why these are not unreasonable requests.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the average average person that's kind of following

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<v Speaker 4>casually what was happening, they would say, of course, we

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<v Speaker 4>want those things to be in place.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is Republicans and Democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>You ask anybody these you know, the Epstein files investigation

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<v Speaker 4>is like the most bipartisan thing in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody wants justice.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody wants those that committed these horrific acts and harm

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<v Speaker 4>and rape and the abuse of women and children. They

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<v Speaker 4>want people behind bars or for there to be criminal convictions.

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<v Speaker 4>And so we're not sure why there is this kind

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<v Speaker 4>of agreement. It seems like to cover this up. Right

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<v Speaker 4>from day one, you've had the President of the United

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<v Speaker 4>States and the Attorney General at the time, Pambondi, making

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<v Speaker 4>the clear decision to cover this up, that this was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a hoax, nothing was going to get released,

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<v Speaker 4>there's nothing else to share. And then we've fought every

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<v Speaker 4>step of the way to get bits and pieces out

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<v Speaker 4>video data, different files, emails, and we're finally beginning to

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<v Speaker 4>put together and piece together this whole timeline of what's happening,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's so much more information that we need, whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's from the Epstein estate, certainly from the DJ We

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<v Speaker 4>need the three million missing files, and we don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>What's actually been redacted, what's been kept from us.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, there's there's so much happening. And one

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<v Speaker 4>other thing, Kay, I think it's really important for your

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<v Speaker 4>for your viewers to know. You know, Todd Blantch just

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<v Speaker 4>came out with this kind of expanded definition of privilege

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<v Speaker 4>that he just put out there. I know, I wish

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<v Speaker 4>the media, the Legacy, MEDYA would be reporting on this

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't think people understand how bad this is.

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<v Speaker 4>What Todd blanch Is basically said is that no longer

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<v Speaker 4>is executive privilege between the president and other kind of

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<v Speaker 4>White House kind of oval office agency employees, but it

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<v Speaker 4>now extends to whoever the president views as an advisor,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's retroactive. And so imagine now that anyone that

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump has talked to about the Epstein investigation, the

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<v Speaker 4>situation room meetings and a cover up any directions that

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<v Speaker 4>he may have been giving anyone conversations you might be

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<v Speaker 4>having with other people outside the government.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are now all going to be privileged.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Dayton and look, it's not legal, it's certainly

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<v Speaker 4>not constitutional. We're going to this is a challenge in

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<v Speaker 4>the courts. But sure, I think in between, I think

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<v Speaker 4>this is really dangerous stuff we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Dealing with, and the challenge in the courts, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I'm obviously experiencing, is you have to respect

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<v Speaker 1>the process.

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<v Speaker 2>But the delay only a.

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<v Speaker 1>Nurse to the benefit of the abusers of people like

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, like people who are actively participating in a concealment,

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<v Speaker 1>a cover up. Right, So the delay of having to

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<v Speaker 1>litigate the applicability, the breath, the legality of this type

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<v Speaker 1>of executive privilege just delays transparency, which reminds me and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you brought up the DJ in this context.

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<v Speaker 1>The Department of Justice, when led by Pam Bondi in

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<v Speaker 1>August of twenty twenty five, a year ago, Congressman Garcia

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<v Speaker 1>was lawfully served with a Congressional subpoena from House Oversight,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was courtesy of you and Congresswoman Summerly, an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible one to two punch of getting a vote to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get that subpoena issued. It called for

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<v Speaker 1>the production of the entirety of the Epstein files. This

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<v Speaker 1>is even before the Epstein Files Transparency Act was even

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<v Speaker 1>passed into law. Yet as we sit here in August

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty six, a year later, give or take, Congressman,

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<v Speaker 1>how much have you gotten from the DOJ pursu into

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<v Speaker 1>that subpoena, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, pursue it to that subpoena. We probably got the

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<v Speaker 4>initial batch with maybe three percent of the entire entirety

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<v Speaker 4>of the files. They never this is a lawful subpoena

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<v Speaker 4>of the Congress. And of course, and this is what

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<v Speaker 4>people don't get is when you're not in the majority,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have the ability to then go to court

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<v Speaker 4>on behalf of the House.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, See this is important make sure people understand process

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<v Speaker 1>and procedure because I know people get frustrated and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>where's the follow up? So let people know what would

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<v Speaker 1>be the procedure if you were the chair and you

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<v Speaker 1>had a majority by the Democrats to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>See, if we were in the majority, we not only

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<v Speaker 3>would be.

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<v Speaker 4>Able to obviously direct subpoenas get the information that we

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<v Speaker 4>need from a variety of sources. We would have the

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<v Speaker 4>ability to go to the court on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 4>And I think people really understand that piece of it,

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<v Speaker 4>basically ignore, and which is why again these lawsuits by you.

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<v Speaker 4>Norm Issen has another a couple other lawsuits in his

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<v Speaker 4>organization and other parts of the EPT investigation. They're so

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it's mind boggling if I'm a congressman.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this Like one component that came out of my

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the allegations she has raised. The FBI met

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<v Speaker 1>by the Trump DOJ, but the underlying handwritten notes have

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<v Speaker 1>to you in Congress. You are a Congressman, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>But Judge Sullivan yesterday said that the unredacted handwritten FBI

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<v Speaker 1>notes are to be produced to him in chambers for

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<v Speaker 2>It is mind boling to me and nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>The DOJ lawyer couldn't even answer Congressman how many pieces

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<v Speaker 1>considering the fact that the universe, as purportedly alleged by

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<v Speaker 1>it for there to be a fulsome review by House

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<v Speaker 1>oversight before James Comber declares this to be a closed

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<v Speaker 3>It's so important.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, whether James Comer declares a closed case or not,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, well, we're going to ignore that because there's

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<v Speaker 3>But I want to get back to this, these three

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<v Speaker 4>You're discussing, right, So I think the public should also

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<v Speaker 4>know that when the Epstein files were first put out,

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<v Speaker 4>the documents related to this allegation right that was made

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<v Speaker 4>by this woman who was thirteen at the time about

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<v Speaker 4>the president, these were highly redacted and overly redacted and

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<v Speaker 4>were missing. Exact they were placed, they were put out,

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<v Speaker 4>then they got missed. Yeah, exactly, they were missing and

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<v Speaker 4>they were gone. And it was not only until overside Democrats,

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<v Speaker 4>I myself went into the system a bunch of us

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<v Speaker 4>and saw that the documentation in there is basically a

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<v Speaker 4>kind of table of contents that showed all the documents

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<v Speaker 4>that should be in these reports. When we went to

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<v Speaker 4>go look at the actual reports, they were gone and

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<v Speaker 4>it was these exact kind of three twos in documents

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<v Speaker 4>surrounding this investigation in reference to the president, those weren't there.

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<v Speaker 4>They deliberately did not include them until we said, but

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<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, we have this manifest that explained that

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<v Speaker 4>these documents should exist. It wasn't until then that the

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<v Speaker 4>documents were then produced, and so they've been trying to

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<v Speaker 4>cover this up from the get go and anytime.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I'll be the first to.

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<v Speaker 4>Say, I mean, you know, obviously, as a Laura, you

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<v Speaker 4>understand this from an investigation perspective. We're talking about allegations here,

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<v Speaker 4>serious ones against the president. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day, to be interviewed four times by the FBI,

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<v Speaker 4>that is that is not common. They wanted more information.

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<v Speaker 4>There was definitely back and forth, and so the public

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<v Speaker 4>and the Congress has a right to see all of

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<v Speaker 4>these notes in all of these documents. And I'm glad

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<v Speaker 4>that the judge agrees with you on this, and certainly

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<v Speaker 4>we do as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So correspond.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that you have pledged once the Democrats take

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<v Speaker 1>the majority in November after successful midterms, are subpoenas to

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<v Speaker 1>be issued. You mentioned that at the top of that

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<v Speaker 1>list is a woman by the name of Malania Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think it's important to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>a subpoena or some type of an investigative vehicle is

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<v Speaker 1>chased down to be able to talk to Malani and

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<v Speaker 4>Well, First Republicans have set a precedent that we can

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<v Speaker 4>subpoena and talk to First ladies and former first ladies

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<v Speaker 4>and family members of presidents I Hunter, Biden and others,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that president has been laid out the Clintons,

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<v Speaker 4>and we've seen it happen. Second, I mean, is there

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<v Speaker 4>any does anyone here across the country think that the

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<v Speaker 4>First Lady doesn't have additional information?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially after that bizarre presser best conference.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she herself wants their investigation to move for I

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<v Speaker 4>mean she made that very clear.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we're very interesting the way.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a hoax.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump wants to call it a hoax, but she didn't

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<v Speaker 3>All, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's there's no question that we want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to the First Lady. Uh, Milania clearly has information.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of speculation about who knew who when,

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<v Speaker 4>who was introduced to who, and how when and how,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I think those are valid questions. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think that if if Milania Trump wants real justice for

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<v Speaker 4>the survivors, then she would work with us to try

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<v Speaker 4>to get the truth. And so that's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>an important part of this is as is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be talking to all those players in the Situation Room

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<v Speaker 4>that we're all planning on how they were going to

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<v Speaker 4>exonerate Donald Trump, starting with jd Vance. Why is jd

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<v Speaker 4>Vance leading secret meetings that nobody was supposed to find

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<v Speaker 4>out about in the situation room which is meant for

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<v Speaker 4>national security emergencies with Susie Wheles and Pambondi and Cash Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I mean this seems like serious stuff, not a hoax.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't hold situation room meetings for a hoax. And

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<v Speaker 4>it was out of these meetings that they began discussing

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<v Speaker 4>the Glainne Maxwell connection. They began talking about how they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to use Glaine Maxwell to somehow exonerate Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>So, look, there's a cover up here. There's no question.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot more to the story.

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<v Speaker 4>And the survivors aren't going to give up till all

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<v Speaker 4>the files are released, and we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Either quickly before I have to let you go to Congressman.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that I always want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that I cover with you and other members of Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>There's other work that you are doing at Oversight. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure people understand that Oversight is not

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<v Speaker 1>just Epstein. There may be a lot of visibility surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein files and the work that Oversight is doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and more specifically the Democrats on House Oversight, but let

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<v Speaker 1>some folks know about some other major issues because people

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<v Speaker 1>care about the Epstein files, but of course we care

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<v Speaker 1>about the affordability issues, the illegal war. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, things we've got, We've got We've got a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of investigations, probably over a dozen really serious ones. Three

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<v Speaker 4>others that are really critical. Briefly, one is we're really

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<v Speaker 4>focused on Trump family corruption. Uh, you know, the all

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<v Speaker 4>the money to Jared Kusher from the Saudi's, Eric Trump

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<v Speaker 4>and Donald Trump Junior cutting deals for the organization, the

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<v Speaker 4>contracts at the Pentagon, to boards that Donald that Don

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<v Speaker 4>Junior is sitting on. I mean, give me a break.

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<v Speaker 4>The cryptos scheme, Trump getting billions of dollars, richer selling

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<v Speaker 4>of the parties, I mean, the Trump family is is

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<v Speaker 4>just full of of corruption and actions, we believe, and

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to be investigating all of those. Another one

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<v Speaker 4>is Ice and DHS. There we've had a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>reports of pay to play. Why are all why they've

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<v Speaker 4>turned into this immigrant their immigration and their deportation scheme

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<v Speaker 4>really into a bonanza for all of these private contractors

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<v Speaker 4>and buddies and donors of Donald Trump, and so there

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<v Speaker 4>is now they've made it an industry of detention and deportation,

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<v Speaker 4>And then I'll say, finally, this doesn't get enough attention,

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<v Speaker 4>but the destruction of our vaccination and our programs at

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<v Speaker 4>HHS at the CDC are making us less healthy and

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<v Speaker 4>quite frankly, are putting us in a very very dangerous

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<v Speaker 4>be a next pandemic, and we are not prepared. We

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<v Speaker 4>are destroying our systems. We are making ourselves less healthy,

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<v Speaker 4>we are being vaccinated less and we have fired all

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<v Speaker 4>of the leading experts across the country that do this

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<v Speaker 4>work because RFK Junior instead would rather wear a tinfoil

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<v Speaker 4>hat and make decisions about our health on his own.

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<v Speaker 4>And so these are all issues that Oversight is focused on,

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<v Speaker 4>and they will be our key issues in the majority.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>You are always so generous with your time. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that the viewers and the listeners they really appreciate how

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<v Speaker 1>willing you are to lay it all out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have completely eliminated the black box surrounding the information

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<v Speaker 1>about the work that's being done in DC, especially by

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats at House Oversight. So thank you so much, Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Garcia for joining me, and thank you for the work

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<v Speaker 1>that your team does. I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>unsung heroes at House Oversight, your staffers, like there are

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, because they are They're working every

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<v Speaker 4>single day. It's a hardworking team and Oversight staff members,

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<v Speaker 4>some been there a long time, some newer, but they

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<v Speaker 1>US investigated left leaning groups during Minnesota immigration crackdown. The

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<v Speaker 1>horrific these immigration tactics have been from the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>But because of that innocent activity, they were unbeknownst at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, the subjects of investigations and tactics that are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fucking outrageous by Homeland Security. Four days, just four

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<v Speaker 1>days after Alex Party was murdered broad daylight in the

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<v Speaker 1>streets of Minneapolis, the Homeland Security Department opened an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>out of its office in Saint Paul, Minnesota. The target

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<v Speaker 1>not Border Patrol CBP, the people that murdered Alex pretty

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<v Speaker 1>that day.

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<v Speaker 2>The targets these groups.

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<v Speaker 1>These organizations, labor unions, a climate change, environmental activist grouped,

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<v Speaker 1>socialist collectives, investigators, alleging that these groups provided help and

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<v Speaker 1>money to quote violent opportunists and agitators on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the claims that were made by the Trump regime.

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<v Speaker 1>So what did Homeland Security do? They used incredibly and

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<v Speaker 1>intrusive techniques like subpoena's, wire taps, things like that, surveillance,

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<v Speaker 1>undercover operations to be able to try to snag or

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<v Speaker 1>ensnare people that they claim were doing all of this

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<v Speaker 1>violent criminal activity. Now, how did we find out about

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<v Speaker 1>this because of emotion that was filed. Let's pull up

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<v Speaker 1>that motion right now because this is really important. So

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<v Speaker 1>the motion was filed in a case called United States

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<v Speaker 1>Versuit Isaac Sant. This is somebody who's actually a part

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<v Speaker 1>of a group that has been indicted. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>these fifteen people that were indicted in Minnesota and the

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<v Speaker 1>claim was that they were part of Antifa, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>called the Antifa defendants, right, And that's what fifteen people

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<v Speaker 1>who have been alleged of interfering with law enforcement agents

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<v Speaker 1>and that they were doing all this subversive, illegal violent activity. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a motion, like I said, that was filed

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<v Speaker 1>in this case in federal District Court by a lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>on behalf of one of those fifteen defendants, and he

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<v Speaker 1>filed this motion in order to obtain further information based

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<v Speaker 1>upon the discovery that's been released so far by the

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<v Speaker 1>DOJ and the prosecution of his client. Let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>that motion. Like I said, this is very important because

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<v Speaker 1>we get a lot of information straight out of the

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<v Speaker 1>gate in the introduction on page one. This case, as

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<v Speaker 1>in the Antifa indictment, involves an unprecedented campaign by the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Homeland Security to spy on Minnesotans. During Operation Retrosurge,

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<v Speaker 1>undercover agents posed as protesters, surveilling community meetings at churches,

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<v Speaker 1>public parks, public libraries, schools, and union halls. These agents surreptitiously,

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<v Speaker 1>They secretly recorded dozens of conversations with just ordinary people

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<v Speaker 1>who were exercising their First Amendment right to protest ICE's

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<v Speaker 1>lawless rampage in Minnesota. These agents gathered information about Minnesotans

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<v Speaker 1>from law enforcement databases as well as Internet searches, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they created dossiers that are now available agency wide.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it goes on and again. This context is

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<v Speaker 1>so important homely security investigations. Abuses didn't stop there. They

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<v Speaker 1>secretly obtained financial records for several national labor unions, including SCIU,

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<v Speaker 1>the Communication Workers of America, and some social justice nonprofits

475
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<v Speaker 1>like the Sunrise Movement and Voices for Racial Justice, with

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<v Speaker 1>zero criminal predicate to do so. The government's presentation to

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<v Speaker 1>the grand jury, which is the one that resulted in

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<v Speaker 1>the indictment of those fifteen ANTIFA members, was broad and

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<v Speaker 1>irrational with no evidence. The government alleged to the grand

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<v Speaker 1>jury that the conspiracy in this case extends far beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the defendants to include the AFLCIO, the Minneapolis Federation of Educators,

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Association of Esational Employees, MONARCA, Veterans for Peace,

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<v Speaker 1>and the grease Pit Bicycle Repair Shop. Among others. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it goes on to talk about NSPM seven. I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it here at Katie Fang News a lot. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the National Security Presidential Memorandum seven and that was

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<v Speaker 1>issued by convicted fellon Donald Trump just last year in

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<v Speaker 1>the fall September of twenty twenty five. NSPM seven authorizes

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice to prosecute ICE protesters and opponents

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<v Speaker 1>of the administration. This is that NSPM seven memorandum that

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much officializes ANTIFA again without any type of scope, definition,

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<v Speaker 1>or reality. HSI cited to this presidential memorandum as the

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<v Speaker 1>justification and authority to open their investigation in case.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The government is required during the course of a prosecution

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<v Speaker 1>to do initial disclosures, and these initial disclosures that and

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<v Speaker 1>turn over to the ANTIFA fifteen actually confirms and reveals

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<v Speaker 1>the abuses that occurred through the crux of or during

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<v Speaker 1>the course of this investigation. So the defendant in this

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<v Speaker 1>case says that the government's initial disclosures are incomplete, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they've brought this motion because they want to

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<v Speaker 1>compel the government to have to turn over more information.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, the government's initial disclosures are missing specific reports

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<v Speaker 1>of investigation arois, as they are called, that the government

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<v Speaker 1>has admitted that they're intentionally withholding. The government says that

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<v Speaker 1>these rois are unrelated to the investigation, even though they

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<v Speaker 1>were created and filed during the course of that investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>The disclosures omit any rois that document the Homeland Security

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<v Speaker 1>Investigation's domestic surveillance but placed in other case files. These

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<v Speaker 1>initial disclosures omit documents and communications related to the initiation

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<v Speaker 1>and supervision of undercover operations. They also omit download modes

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<v Speaker 1>of undercover phones and undercover laptops used by undercover agents

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<v Speaker 1>in this case to communicate with the defendants and others. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the motion goes on to say that on January twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>four days after alex Pretty was murdered, they opened this operation,

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<v Speaker 1>this mass spying campaign on Minnesota's and they called it

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<v Speaker 1>Operation puppet Master. And what was the purpose to quote

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<v Speaker 1>identify and organize network of conspirators operating through online and

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<v Speaker 1>in person, providing material support to violent opportunists and agitators

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<v Speaker 1>involved in impeding law enforcement, rioting, destruction of federal property,

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<v Speaker 1>and assaults on federal agents and officers.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it identify by name any specific people, nor does

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<v Speaker 1>it flag any specific incidents of violence, rioting, destruction of property,

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<v Speaker 1>or assaults on federal agents and officers. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>did this undercover surveillance and it didn't actually investigate or

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<v Speaker 1>unearth any of these events or people, but instead just

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<v Speaker 1>violated people's constitutional rights. By doing all of this incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>invasive and intrusive activity, they pretty much revealed people that

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<v Speaker 1>were in opposition to what ICE was doing and DHS

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<v Speaker 1>was doing in Minnesota. But we all saw that for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that firsthand. Two weeks after this Operation puppet

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<v Speaker 1>Master being launched, what do we find out? DHS launches

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<v Speaker 1>Project Whipple Shield. That was another investigation into instances where

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<v Speaker 1>individuals and organized networks quote have exploited events to engage

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<v Speaker 1>in acts of violence, detraction of property, and timination of

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<v Speaker 1>federal officers and employees, and attempts to impede federal operations.

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<v Speaker 1>So what they did was they made the sallegation of

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<v Speaker 1>some huge broad conspiracy with a number of local organizations

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<v Speaker 1>and collectives that were just fighting back against ICE and

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<v Speaker 1>against this Operation Metro Surge. But they wanted to label

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<v Speaker 1>them as domestic terrorists or Antifa so that they could

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and do all of this invasive, intrusive, unconstitutional

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<v Speaker 1>activity against just simple ordinary people. Now, check out this

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<v Speaker 1>diagram that's in the motion that we're talking about. It's

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of page six. This is a diagram

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<v Speaker 1>that was actually shown to the Grand jury that resulted

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<v Speaker 1>in that indictment of those fifteen people as alleged quote Antifa.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's pretty wild. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>can zoom in a little bit on here, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the center, the center of the you know, with all

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<v Speaker 1>the spokes coming out of this wheel of conspiracy, is

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<v Speaker 1>an organization called DAM Direct Action Minnesota. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>just draw a spoke of connectivity to things like the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Association of Professional Employees, how about the SEIU twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>how about Whipple Watch, how about the afl CIO, And

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<v Speaker 1>then there we go the grease pit, the bicycle repair shop.

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<v Speaker 1>The government told Grand jurors during the course of this

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<v Speaker 1>grand representation to secure that true bill indictment, that if

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<v Speaker 1>any individual was connected to both DAM and any of

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<v Speaker 1>those entities you see on that diagram that the government

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<v Speaker 1>considered that to be quote conspiracy. Okay, so we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that the HSI, the Homeland Security Investigations people,

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<v Speaker 1>they got financial records of labor unions nonprofit organizations because

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<v Speaker 1>it constituted domestic terrorist financing years worth of wire transfers.

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<v Speaker 1>They also got subpoenas to get financial information for the

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<v Speaker 1>Communication Workers of America's donations and pack spending. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>three years worth. It's not even like it was narrowly

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<v Speaker 1>tailored to begin with. They got PayPal and Venmo information

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<v Speaker 1>for Voices of Racial Justice, the longest running racial justice

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<v Speaker 1>organization in the state of Minnesota. Then they also got

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<v Speaker 1>financial records for Sunrise Movement, a nonprofit that focuses on

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<v Speaker 1>climate change and other social justice issues. Undercover agents posed

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<v Speaker 1>as protesters and activists, and they went to community meetings

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<v Speaker 1>at church's parks, libraries, union halls, schools, and restaurants. They

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<v Speaker 1>exchanged signal messages with people about quote purely First Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>protected conduct, and then they also surveilled people engaged solely

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<v Speaker 1>in First Amendment protected activity. This is a top of

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<v Speaker 1>page eleven, including the Whipple Watch group that engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful observation of ice vehicle activity in and out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Whipple building, conduct that a federal judge and a

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<v Speaker 1>chief federal judge have confirmed is not unlawful. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to stop here.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to play for you right now. This is me.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just two days after.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Prettie was murdered, and this is me outside of

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<v Speaker 1>Whipple Federal and I was reporting from outside of there.

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<v Speaker 1>And take a listen to this video, Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Wells of Katie Han.

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<v Speaker 5>I am outside of a liberal federal in Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 6>As you can see and hear, there's definitely a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of action going on here. The protesters are letting as

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<v Speaker 6>people are driving in and out of Federal of Wipple Federal,

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<v Speaker 6>know how they're feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Just some new developments here. We've got a drone.

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<v Speaker 5>The drone is new taking I think probably a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of biometric information, including people's faces. Another thing that's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of interesting is we're hearing that Tom Holman is on

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<v Speaker 5>his way here. There's kind of been a build up

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<v Speaker 5>of agents cars. They're positioning themselves in the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not getting out of their cars. They're actually watching us.

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<v Speaker 5>And here, let me see if I can do this.

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<v Speaker 4>On the suck.

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<v Speaker 6>Shame on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's definitely interesting here.

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<v Speaker 6>But I PuF y'all posted on.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on, right, So that's me outside of Whipple

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<v Speaker 1>Federal and Lord knows what biometric and other identifiers were

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<v Speaker 1>seized that day from that drone and from the ICE people,

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<v Speaker 1>the agents that were sitting in the cars that were

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<v Speaker 1>facing us, and they thought that we couldn't see them,

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<v Speaker 1>but we knew that they were there, and we knew

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<v Speaker 1>that they were recording it. And what they would do

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<v Speaker 1>is also when they would drive in and out of Whipple,

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<v Speaker 1>they would use their own cell phone cameras and they

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<v Speaker 1>would video our faces and they would.

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<v Speaker 2>Video us when they were coming in and out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was very obvious what they were doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we knew that we were being recorded in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But for what I mean, I'm there reporting. Those other

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<v Speaker 1>people are there excusing exercising their First Amendment constitutionally protected

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<v Speaker 1>right to protest, to voice their opposition to the murder

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<v Speaker 1>of people in the streets of Minneapolis Saint Paul. And

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<v Speaker 1>yet that's the type of stuff that they were doing,

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<v Speaker 1>as now confirmed by this motion. They went to churches

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<v Speaker 1>and they captured license plates of attendees, going to anti

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<v Speaker 1>ICE protests and active meetings. They got the license plates,

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<v Speaker 1>then they got the names of the attendees, search the

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<v Speaker 1>social media and comply and compiled a intel workup that

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<v Speaker 1>gave their names, photos, addresses, personal information including family and

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<v Speaker 1>employment information, vehicle registration information for each person who went

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<v Speaker 1>to that church. Okay, they went to No King's protests

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<v Speaker 1>and they did surveillance of those peaceful protests, claiming to

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<v Speaker 1>the Grand Jury that look, as far as this investigation is,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody violated know anybody's First Amendment activities, But every person

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<v Speaker 1>we've investigating that there's a criminal predicate to investigating them.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the criminal predicate for going to a No King's protest?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, the premise of being able to do this

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<v Speaker 1>was this NSPM, this National Security Presidents on Random seven

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<v Speaker 1>from September of twenty twenty five, and this and other

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutors are using this as a blueprint to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to prosecute and harass people that are anti ICE or

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<v Speaker 1>that are anti this administration. And this motion seeks the

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<v Speaker 1>disclosure of a lot of the underlying information that would

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<v Speaker 1>support not support underlying information that would give more full context.

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<v Speaker 1>It would fill out these initial government disclosures. They're also

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<v Speaker 1>seeking Brady and Giglio, So Brady is and Giglio's information

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty much information that is exculpatory, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>helpful to a defendant, that would also deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>credibility of a witness that is being sought, that is

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<v Speaker 1>required to be turned over, and so the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>that's having to be asked for, I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge red flag that the government's prosecution in this case

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<v Speaker 1>is not on the straight and narrow. The motion concludes

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<v Speaker 1>that the government is admitting to withholding specific information, stating

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not applicable to this particular prosecution. Again, another

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<v Speaker 1>very big red flag in my opinion, especially as a

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<v Speaker 1>formal prosecutor. You know, you not only have the obligation

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<v Speaker 1>to turn over anything and pretty much that you have,

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<v Speaker 1>but you should be because there's no trial by ambush

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<v Speaker 1>that exists here, and especially in a criminal case when

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<v Speaker 1>people's liberty is at stake, you have to error on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of giving everything you are required to do

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<v Speaker 1>and then some, in.

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<v Speaker 2>My humble opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Furthermore, I think this is a real test case of

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<v Speaker 1>this NSPM seven, because using that as the authority to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to invade people's privacy and to violate their

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment rights is offensive to the core of the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we really need to be watching what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised that this happened under the tenure of

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<v Speaker 1>the US attorney there, This guy, Dan Rosen, He is

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<v Speaker 1>a abomination of a US attorney. There has been so

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<v Speaker 1>much bad activity that has been happening on his watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I did an entire subsect about this guy being like

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<v Speaker 1>a gutless coward. You have people that worked in that

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<v Speaker 1>office that resigned after the murders of Alex Pretting and

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<v Speaker 1>Renaana cole Good because they knew that the US Attorney's

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<v Speaker 1>office there was investigating the wrong damn people. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>investigate Renana cole Good's widow, you don't investigate her wife.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now there's still this black box in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of anything that deals with these murders, right I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that tells you the tone of what is happening with

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<v Speaker 1>this US Attorney's office. So I thought this was incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>important information to share with you because we continue to

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<v Speaker 1>fight back in opposition to ice and to this illegal

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<v Speaker 1>and horrible draconian conduct that comes under the guise of

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<v Speaker 1>immigration enforcement in this Trump regime, and to think that

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<v Speaker 1>they want to cow people into silence or intimidate them

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<v Speaker 1>by doing this. They know they have to do it

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<v Speaker 1>secretly because they know that they would get excoriated appropriately.

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<v Speaker 1>So and this is why I want you to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know what they are doing. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to understand what their tactics are, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is where they've sunk so low to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do it in this fashion. It's dirty, They're playing dirty,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully this judge will force them to have to

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<v Speaker 1>disclose this requested information because these are the types of

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<v Speaker 1>tactics that are McCarthyism and that are frankly fascist.

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<v Speaker 2>Has to be said.

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<v Speaker 1>Be mad, be outraged, man accountability like they are doing

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, and be aware, be very aware of

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<v Speaker 1>what they're up to. I'm off to rattle more fascist cages.
