Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It
is episode one hundred and thirty six. I'm your host,
Mike Mahrty. I don't have any cool rhyme today because
I already used it up. We just recorded a bonus episode.
If you're not a video patron, you know not to
get into promos right away. But I did have a
pretty sick intro there because Mary really biffed hers trying
to improv.
Speaker 2: I think mine was better.
Speaker 1: Lesson learned. I'll take care of the intros. That was
Mary Kesh as usual is here.
Speaker 3: I think I have a great way to do intros.
But we all can't just rhyme random words together? Can
we dance?
Speaker 4: They? Especially ones that are not words and just making
up names.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the master for a reason.
Speaker 1: Yep. It's not an easy It's not something you can acquire.
I was born with it. I can't help it. We
did just record a bonus episode. We were playing Meccha Chameleon.
Mary told us about I mean a lot of people
playing it, but Mary was the one who said.
Speaker 2: We know I found it.
Speaker 1: I discovered she made it made. Yeah, it's based on her.
Speaker 4: He brought Jake in Jake joined us. Jake's bad at
hiding others. I hope he uses my cuts that show
him foolishly looking directly at me and not shooting me.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. It's like competitive friend slop and kind
of co op, sort of like speed painting.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll talk about it when we get to the
game section, but yeah, like speed painting, to hide yourself
is a very funny concept.
Speaker 1: Yes, but we're getting that up soon ish. We don't
have a set date. We might by the time we
published this episode. But if you're not a video patron,
then go do that because I'll have access to it. It
was super fun. Mary.
Speaker 4: It looks like you're drinking either a candle or a
can of beans well.
Speaker 1: Liquid, or like a melted can of yogurt.
Speaker 4: For the audio listener, describe this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, this is a tiny glass. It does kind
of look like a candle. It's a glass container. This
is soakke and it's in one of those little cups
that once you buy it and drink.
Speaker 1: It, you can keep the cup.
Speaker 4: It looks like a Knight in the woods.
Speaker 1: It does.
Speaker 3: It's cat uh playing soccer. And I like these because
I I keep the cup afterwards and then drink little
drinks out of it.
Speaker 1: I think they're fine. I think they're neat. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sake is risky for Mary though, because I find that
the effects of the alcohol feel delayed, and so I'm
like I can't I'm not getting anything out of the socket.
And then three later I'm like, uhh, I'm totally bombed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just keep chomping on them. You just go
too far.
Speaker 3: But I also ask you who in their right mind
only eats half a recey cup because it's an edible.
I'm gonna eat the whole recey cup. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Branded. They make fake.
Speaker 3: Names for them, but they have like, uh ripe rice
crispy tree edibles and it's and it'll stay on it listen, Like,
have a quarter of this rice crispy tree and it's
just like what you want me to Only a quarter
of a rice crispy tree is crazy.
Speaker 1: The texturevites binge eating. They're just like a chewy, satisfying texture.
Speaker 4: I feel like everyone's got that story too, of themselves
or a friend who's like I found this whole thing
of like popcorn on the counter and I just ate
a bunch of it and didn't know that every piece
was twenty milligramc you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can tell those stories because it doesn't
kill you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it makes you freak the fuck out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes you maybe have an unpleasant night, but
it's like unlike any other drug or alcohol, or if
you have too much of it, you can be really
in trouble.
Speaker 2: And you have too much of an edible, you just
go to sleep.
Speaker 4: Or what would have happen if, like I know, you
can't it can't be like a fatal thing. But like, okay,
So for instance, five milligrams for me is enough for
me to feel real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, usually from a super right weight.
Speaker 4: So what happens if I ate like fifty thousand milligrams
at once? What would happen to me?
Speaker 3: God, you might have to go to like comy control.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's a lot.
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say like a hundred
times you're no, like.
Speaker 4: A thousand times the normal? Yeah, ten pounds?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if I have thousand, I have like if
I had ten, I would be like not know what's
going on? Yeah, like just ten, not ten thousands?
Speaker 3: No, I agree, and I think you'd be fine. But
you wouldn't be you wouldn't be mentally okay, And I
do think there's like some psycho effects to it. But Dan,
I think if you have fifty thousand of a lot
of things. Do you know that if you're fifty thousand
times water you can die?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That hold your wiek for a weed? Do you remember that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yes, you can't.
Speaker 3: Have fifty thousand times anything.
Speaker 4: And it sounds like a dare.
Speaker 1: What is something? Is? What is something? Is there anything
that you could drink or eat fifty thousand up?
Speaker 4: I mean I said this about I said this about
macaroni and cheese once and that did not go well
for me. I can still feel the effects of that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the worst answer ever like rice salt? No,
rice would expand on your stomach by the tell me
fifty thousand grains?
Speaker 4: That still yeah, your stomach like fifty thousand specks of salt.
Oh that's like when I put on everything.
Speaker 1: I wonder how many that would be, like if you
were just my Google.
Speaker 3: I think it has to be food. I don't think
it can be a spice. You can be like fifty
thousand regano. I think it needs to be spos.
Speaker 1: They're like, what are specs of salt? Grains of salt?
Grains grain of.
Speaker 3: Rice is probably the smallest, is it.
Speaker 1: It's like how many grains of sand are on this beach?
It's actually, okay, billions.
Speaker 4: I could do this. Fifty thousand grains of salt is
seven point one four pounds of salt. I could do that.
Oh yeah, like that's one salt lick jelly. Yeah, you
feel bad.
Speaker 2: Pretty seven point four pounds.
Speaker 4: They say you're supposed to have that. You need salt
when you run like marathons and stuff. So before I
run my marathon in October, I'm just gonna eat of
salt lick that. Like at aid stations, I'm gonna plant
salt licks for me to just lick as I run
by it.
Speaker 1: I think you would turn like mush before the next
aid station.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Did any of you see what I posted recently about
my half marathon?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: There was a thunderstorm and it got canceled.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got canceled and I ran it anyway. And
I want to get your honest man, is this cool?
Is this more cool or more stupid? Because I ran
for over two hours and a tyrenial downpour and NonStop
lightning and thunder. My shoes were soaked, the sunscreen was
going to my eyes, so I couldn't see most of
the time. Like, it was a tremendously difficult and painful experience,
but I felt pretty fucking cool afterwards. Well because I thought, like,
I mean, you're out there for hours, and you plan
for Like at the time I left the house, it
wasn't storming. I saw that it was coming in, but
you know, you prepare, but then it's just like I'm
drenched and my bald ass head just slick, just puts
all of the sunscreen directly my eyes. I'm on the
course by myself. There's no aid station, so I'm just
in the middle of this nature reserve. Yeah, it was
fucking scary and uncomfortable, but like at the and I
was like, that felt pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good for you, like that you did it.
And also I'm fairly certain, like I don't understand lightning
to begin with, so like, don't take this as gospel.
I thought, you're better off being near other tall things
as opposed to like being the only tall thing in
a field.
Speaker 4: So that was something I was thinking about a lot
because I had both experiences in this nature reserve because like,
at times it was like a hill in a field
and I was the tallest thing, and I was worried
because I know lightning finds the quickest route to the ground.
I was like, this is and I had the metal
metal in my running belt, so I just was running
around with metal above my dick. Basically, yeah, was like
a breath of the wild sparks were coming out of it. Yeah,
so I was worried. I was most worried when I
was the tallest thing in the field. But then there
were times where I was like running underwooded like things,
and I was like, all right, it might it would
strike the trees first, which like okay, yeah, maybe it
could fall on me, but that's not as bad as
getting struck directly. So like I felt better when I
was under trees, which I don't know if that's stupid.
Speaker 1: Or not, I don't know. I mean I thought it
would be. But like people write in and tell us
someone who understands the lightning better, I had.
Speaker 3: A different response to it. I felt like my immediate
response was that it was annoying.
Speaker 5: Annoying, Yeah, well, I thought about those poor people who
work to make the marathon happen, and all the work
that they put into that day, and then there's a
thunderstorm which is dangerous and they had to make a
very difficult decision to cancel it.
Speaker 3: And then a man shows up and says, I'm running it,
and they said, well, we can't stop you, but it's
not good and you shouldn't but we can't make you.
And you said I'm gonna run it, and they said okay.
And then and then before they walked away, you said,
and I want my medal.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, to be.
Speaker 4: Fair, a creative, no work for anyone, Like I didn't
know the exact course. And they took all the signs
down as they were canclering. I like, no, like they
had nothing to do with it, Like I just grabbed
the medal. They didn't even like hand it to me. Actually,
I asked them like can I take this? And yea,
I took it out of the bag.
Speaker 1: They were like, get out of here, kid.
Speaker 4: You buy this inconvenience anyone this is I was the
only one that struggled with.
Speaker 1: This before you ran the racer after well, yeah, because
they were all leading everything up.
Speaker 4: Well that's what I said I that. No, I used
it as inspiration. I said, like, Okay, I need to
earn this now, and I ran and my watch stopped
working with the track and because of the rain, so
I actually ran thirteen point six, which is half a
mile longer than I needed to. No, I felt awesome
about it, like, and I never feel cool. But I
got home and I was like, I feel pretty cool
about that.
Speaker 3: I think it's neat that you persevered. I think that
you are so uh beef headed that you, yes, you
like disregarded your own personal safety to commit to something
that no one needed you to do. You you did something
reckless for no reason besides your own no reason.
Speaker 4: And I felt pretty good about it.
Speaker 2: But you don't need to you could you could.
Speaker 1: Have run run ever. You don't need to work out ever,
you know, but you could do it when it's safe. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I trained for this day in particular, you know,
like the training.
Speaker 1: You don't need to like.
Speaker 3: Dive with sharks, like with you know, pieces of meat
strapped to your dick, but like you could.
Speaker 4: Mike, Mike, I was thinking about you at one point,
specifically because it was at the point where I was
most at the top of a hill and the lightning
was coming down like crazy, and I was like, that
was my peak scared and on my playlist No Easy
Way Out from Rocky Forest started and I was literally
thinking like I don't know how I could find shelter
if I needed to, because I was in the middle
of this park thing, and the lyrics were like there's
no easy way out, there's no short cut home. Well,
I'm literally thinking about like what how can I get home?
How can I get the safety or whatever. It was
very dramatic.
Speaker 1: It felt yeah did did Bianca like shout at you
from the top of the stairs, you can't do this.
Speaker 4: She was fully in favor of it. She was like
that was cool, that's not cool.
Speaker 3: She's so supportive.
Speaker 1: I know she shows up and she shows up on
this my job to Russia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great person who goes to the marathon
to say you can't do it.
Speaker 6: Sir.
Speaker 1: Finish. Wouldn't a nap feel good? Right now? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Go home, loser, And they're just like, why do you
let her be your friend?
Speaker 1: I'm holding up a sign demotivational weed lacede pieces at
all the stations gatorade.
Speaker 3: I'm hiding them in different tables and I'm drugging all
the different runners, and I'm wanted in three states.
Speaker 1: I've never run an organized marathon. I run it quite
a bit, but not I've never done something official.
Speaker 4: No, this is my fifth and this might have been
my favorite.
Speaker 1: I did but you did it like you.
Speaker 4: It was cand official, but I did it. It's the
longest I've ever run in my life. It was something.
Speaker 3: You ran an extra half a mile in a thunderstorm.
I am proud of you, but I think you need
to know when to go home. No, they didn't post
he's learned nothing.
Speaker 4: No, it was canceled and there was no refunds. It
was like a non refundable thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, postponent to another day.
Speaker 4: I don't know they could still that email could come through,
but I kind of doubt it now. They said like, oh,
you can do it virtually, so if you go do
it on a treadmill or whatever, you can submit your
time and get listed. I was like, fuck that. I'm
running outside right now in the race this second.
Speaker 1: I'm going, uh not run a marathon. I told you
guys for I passed. I officially passed my first of
six tests for my certification.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what am I holding right now? Smart guy looks.
Speaker 1: Like McLaren val Cheraz at a glance. Fuck, he's going test.
I don't get results for a bit though. Nice.
Speaker 4: This is nice. So you're almost done?
Speaker 1: Yeah, four more to go, like about a year and
a half. Two now like yeah, a year and a
half rised, So that's been fun. So I'm at a
new if anybody's in New York, I'm at a new
place soon called Peasant. So like they're going for like
a if you know they should chef Mark four gione
in New York. They're going like a rustic Italian vibe.
They've he's got like James Beard Awards whatnot. They're doing
like a rustic Italian vibe. But it's an all Italian
list at the one List. It's a very cool staff.
Pop in if you're in town, say hi, I'll be
there a few days a week. Would uh?
Speaker 4: Would the people you work with their be impressed? If
fire Escape pans given?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Do they know about this show?
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten to know them super well yet.
Speaker 3: If I came in with my steam deck and was like,
I have thirty two hours and Dave the Diver, would
they be like cool?
Speaker 1: Show me if he's set. Often you walk up to
the like the hosts then, and said, hey, I have
thirty two hours Dave the diver, what's your end game?
Like seeing whether they think you're cool or not.
Speaker 3: I wanted them to show them my sushi, to be like,
check this out. I killed this fish and I'm serving
it up four point to fire rating.
Speaker 4: What's the wine of video games? What do you mean
that's for you to figure out?
Speaker 3: He's just giving you random riddles.
Speaker 1: I had when before we had to postpone. Speaking of
postponing that Smash Bros. Tournament thing, which we are still
doing at some point. I think we're doing it in August.
I had like wines paired to different characters the idea, like,
not every single character. I had like several wines picked
out that were emblematic of a character. So I had
like a sparkling rose for Kirby or Julie Huff.
Speaker 2: Which one that makes sense?
Speaker 1: Well, Samus is like this spacefaring adventurer. So I picked
the Spanish wine from up in these remote hills where
most people don't go.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't a rose be Rosalina or.
Speaker 4: Rose gold peach?
Speaker 1: We're better at this probably. Yeah, you guys should take
my test for me going forward and work. Yeah, yeah,
do my job for me.
Speaker 4: What we did say before we recorded, I thought it'd
be very funny if I beat Mike to this Somalia
test thing without telling anyone, Like just a long con,
a couple of long.
Speaker 1: It says a lot about the image you have created
of and for yourself that there have been times w
I'm studying, I've actually thought about you. I was like,
it'd be funny if Dan was doing this and just
didn't tell me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is a man who would run an
extra half a mile in a thunderstorm just because he's
like put in some time and wanted to wanted to
feel good about himself. Imagine what he would do to
make you feel bad about yourself.
Speaker 4: I mean it's like the Nathan Fielder like committment. Like
when I saw that like the end of the rehearsal
season too, It's like, well, that's I admire that more
than I think anyone I've ever seen do anything.
Speaker 3: Very committed, very committed.
Speaker 1: I also, did you I feel like you ran more
of a risk of getting sick or is that? Is
that a running in the rain, isn't it more like body?
Speaker 4: It wasn't cold.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, sorry, that's a good point.
Speaker 3: It's not a myth. It's that if you have a sickness,
even like a little bit, temperature fluctuations can increase the
odds that you get like seriously ill and get ill.
But it doesn't give you the sickness, does that make sure?
Speaker 1: But later it was more like a hypothermic thing totally.
Speaker 3: But if you're if you're like in a rainy environment,
that's probably not good.
Speaker 2: I've been in the opposite of environments.
Speaker 3: I just got back from uh Paris, France, and it
was a record breaking ninety five degrees every day, right.
Speaker 1: It surpassed that a few days in like parts of
the country like one hundred.
Speaker 3: It was a bit of a nightmare, honestly, it was.
It was a little bit of a wet heat. It
wasn't dry, I'll tell you that. It was a It
was a humidy heat. And it rained one day, which
was like we were like, yay, that will help, but
it's just like, oh god, it's so much. I don't
know why I said Paris. It was in the south
of France, but I think I flew out of Paris,
which was a nightmare, but yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was bad.
Speaker 3: So I worked for five days at a booth that
served gelatto, which was very smart as a marketing tactic
because serving gelato in record breaking heat does really well,
and we sold out all of our ice cream, so
that was a good system. But I was so fucking hot.
There was no there was nothing that you could do
that would make you comfortable. I was having three sometimes
four showers a day, just too cool off.
Speaker 1: As we're recording this, I think tomorrow or two days
from now, it's going to be one hundred and four
in New York right the July weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's record breaking heat everywhere right now. It was
so hot that when we had one day to spare
and we decided to do a kayaking excursion because to me,
I was like, man, if it's going to be this
hot all the time, I couldn't do a hike, you know,
I couldn't do anything but a water activity you can
get away with. So we scheduled a kayaking excursion and
Antibes and I.
Speaker 2: Went with two of my coworkers.
Speaker 3: The way, we didn't really know much about it, and
they don't really tell you a lot.
Speaker 1: This was a bit of a gamble, and.
Speaker 3: The guy showed up with a couple of kayaks and
he was like, who is the most experienced kayakers? Put
two of them together, and then I got the guide. Now,
the thing about this guide is he's twenty five tan,
very strong, and didn't have a care in the world.
It was like, I'm pretty sure that we will be
able to get to the destination in thirty minutes. And
the girls that I were with were kind of struggling
in their kayak, but I basically had a motor boat
behind me, and so I didn't really do anything. And
he was like, you're doing great, and was just telling
me how amazing I was. And I thought I was
such a good kayaker until I realized he was truly
kayaking on my behalf for both of us and maybe
a third person, and was kayaking me all over the sea.
Speaker 2: It was amazing.
Speaker 4: And your friends that wait, did they have a dude
too or.
Speaker 3: No, they were dude because they were the more experienced kayak.
Speaker 4: I'm not a kayaker, okay, so you had like a
skydive for kayaking.
Speaker 3: Yes, I had a tandem and he was my He
was my kayaker. He was phenomenally good, obviously, and uh
he was.
Speaker 2: He was taking me all around.
Speaker 3: But because uh Machrome, like the I don't know, the
guy who runs France was vacationing, the police stopped us.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're trying through the perimeter via kayak.
Speaker 3: They thought that we were gonna kill James Bond Makron
and so they they pulled up to us in a
super speedy police boat and we're like, what are you
doing And the guy was like, I'm taking them on
a cool trip, and they were like, you can't go
this way.
Speaker 1: And then uh, they sped.
Speaker 3: Off as fast as humanly possible, and it rocked the
shit out of all of our kayaks.
Speaker 1: It was. It was shockingly rude.
Speaker 3: We're like, not only did they say you can't go
that way and we don't care because we have to
protect uh, you know, all of our politicians. But then
they then they like high tailed it to ninety and
made the biggest waves possible, and my poor coworkers were
turning over in their kayaks. So he had to get
me to safety, which he did. He jumped into the
water to pull them to safety with his bare muscles,
which was very cool.
Speaker 1: For me to witness.
Speaker 3: And then as he got back in the kayak.
Speaker 2: He doesn't speak a lot.
Speaker 3: Of English, but he was functional and we were having
decent conversation and I was like, man, like, fuck the police, right,
and he was like, yeah, Nicolo, la police And so
I know now how to say fuck the police in French?
Speaker 4: Are they well, did you complete your mission?
Speaker 3: So we weren't allowed to go to the thing. Well
what he did was, which I thought was cool. Very
close by was the Gucci House, which apparently is like
the people who owned the Gucci brand have a house.
And he was like, whatever, we'll just pull up here.
And we pulled up to the Gucci house and we
hung out in their property and one of them came
out to yell at us, but he went out and
talked to them and he was like, you know, fuck
the police. And the Gucci people were like, yeah, fuck
the police. And they left us alone. They like didn't
they At first they were mad, and then when they
found out like we got totally screwed over by the police,
they were like, have a good time out there, you know,
like enjoy our Gucci property. And so we dove all
around the Gucci property and then we went home.
Speaker 1: This is all near antique.
Speaker 3: Yes, the whole thing is kind of like shocking and otherworldly.
And I would say it's felt dream like because I
was there for work. I was sweating my butt off.
I was not there. It's not a fun thing, you know.
It is work for me, But you have an extra
six hours at the end of your last work day.
Speaker 2: We were like, well you might as well.
Speaker 3: And it's a bit of a fever dream to go to, uh,
the house of Gucci and jump into the jump into
the water there, and so that's that's what I did.
And we all hate the police. It sounds like us
our guide, uh, the Gucci guy who let us stay,
Stanley Gucci. He was pretty pretty Gucci, but you just
rhymed it with Gucci. I can only assume that they're
names are also standing up.
Speaker 1: It only makes sense.
Speaker 4: I don't know this Macrone character, so I googled him
and I was like, is Macrone popular? And it says
his approval ratings are between sixteen percent and twenty five percent,
which seems low.
Speaker 3: It's low for me because he wouldn't let me go.
We apparently we were going to this beautiful vista where
you watch the sunset, and the police were like absolutely not,
like you can't go, and then they bullied us in
the water.
Speaker 2: So we hate Macron.
Speaker 4: Weird how every other country knows like our leaders and
we don't know anyone else's.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a good look for us.
Speaker 4: And I would say, yeah, okay, okay to Mary, would
you have known before you almost kayaked into his palace?
Speaker 3: I knew some about the government of French French French,
because I'm going there.
Speaker 4: Who's the king of Germany right now?
Speaker 3: I don't know the King of Germany, my King England.
Speaker 4: No, I'm asking. I'm saying. That is my thesis, that
nobody knows anything about other countries. Here's the king of Germany.
Speaker 1: I don't think Germany has a king anymore.
Speaker 4: Whatever their Prime minister guy is, Oh that's hellga.
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know that.
Speaker 4: Uh is Canada still that Trudeau guy?
Speaker 1: No, we don't know.
Speaker 4: Nobody knows anything.
Speaker 1: No, it's the dude who got he succeeded Trudeau. I
forget his name now though, but he doesn't like they
just lived it over. Nobody knows is dating Katy Perry.
Oh geez, see, I know a lot about politics.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay. I just think it's funny that like everyone
knows our stuff, but we don't know anyone else's stuff.
Speaker 3: I think it's a bad reflection on are totally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they never teaches anything about other anything.
Speaker 3: It's coming up with the World Cup a lot because
people in the World Cup, when so many people have
been traveling to America for the World Cup and they
know a lot about what's going on. But I did
get to see the World Cup. I got to watch
French French saying French. I have to see France play.
Speaker 2: On a TV, but in.
Speaker 3: France, And it was really cool because they won, and
it was just like really exciting to watch them get
so excited about the World Cup and them being in
it and watching them experience it, regardless of the fact that,
like I didn't have as much skin in the game,
but I was really excited for them that they were
so proud of their own team. It was nice.
Speaker 4: Is it like a whole tournament because like I hear that,
like like in Kansas City, I heard that they're doing
like games in Kansas City, and you're saying they're doing
them in France, So like I don't know, they're assumed
it was like a Super Bowl thing or something.
Speaker 1: The World Cups not in France. It's a tournament, but
it's all taking place in North America this year.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh okay, it's kind of like the Olympics. It
goes into like generally a place every year, and so
we're getting a lot of tourism. And I think something
that was funny that I was learning is that so
many tourists are coming into America for the first time
for the World Cup that they're all discovering that ranch
is really good. Oh and it's causing all these problems
because they're trying to leave with ranch, and so all
of the airlines are like, hey, just do you know
you need to check ranch? Yeah, you gotta check your ranch.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, happened to some other countries be called like
American sauce. Yeah, probably, can I get some American do
see anywhere? Because it's it's even Canada, but they call
it American.
Speaker 1: Different teams started, so they're now in the knockout round,
and yesterday was pretty crazy, as if this recording. Yesterday,
Germany got knocked out, as did the Netherlands. Both were
pretty heavy heavy favorites by Paraguay and Morocco. But like
the previous round, it was the group stage where you
play everybody else in your group to decide the seating
going forward, and in that case different games. Yeah, they're
in Kansas City, Seattle, Houston, LA. The semi finals and
finals are converging literally like on my fucking neighborhood. So
we're kind of bracing for it to happen. Yeah, be
cool to see people. But like the people who who
a lot of people bought tickets and like came to
the country just for a specific period, like because they
knew Scotland was going to be playing in the group stage,
so they were in Boston, like Boston. Uh, they famously
like were draining like literally killing every keg of Sam
Adams in some of these Boston pubs. But different cities
have become enamored with different teams because all of that
team's tourists are in that city like encamped for a while.
Speaker 4: I heard that about my college town, Lawrence. I think
it was Algeria.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was Boston and the Tartan Army, the
scott Scottish fans. I want to say, Seattle, who do
Seattle have for a bit I think the US played
up there, but yeah, no, it's it's it's cool. And
also I'm not looking forward to what it's going to
be like tour the semi finals finals in Jersey because
it's going to be Mayhem.
Speaker 4: So it is going to be like near Wait is
it like MetLife?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, Okay.
Speaker 1: Airbnbs around here have been like being bought up like
from years ago, so it'll be Yeah. Some people are
staying in my neighborhoods, so we've already seen a bunch
of them. Sports bars are overflowing, like even at Company,
the French wine bar. At we brought in TVs. Well,
we brought in TVs for the Knicks finals games, which
was super fun, but then we started bringing in TVs
for US matches. But then we just had a TV
in there, even though we never do. We just kept
it in there. And then I was watching Germany who
beat Germany, Morocco Paraguay. No, Paraguay beat Germany. Morocco beat Netherlands,
both in penalty kicks. So those were two tense games.
And uh yeah, the like the power Western European powerhouses
that have won a bunch of World Cups before got
have been getting knocked out. US plays Bosnia Herzegovina tomorrow
to potentially advance the US. Well, here's a pop quiz.
And I actually didn't know this exact thing until a
few weeks ago. What the farthest the US has ever
gotten in the World Cup was to the semi finals,
So they came in third place, So they lost the semifinals.
What year did that happen?
Speaker 4: America? In the semi finals.
Speaker 1: Of the World Cup they lost the second to last match.
Speaker 4: Nineteen fifty, nineteen.
Speaker 1: Nineteen thirty. It was a while ago. And I was
also coincidentally the last time they started to and oh,
this is the second time they've ever started to and
oh they lost their third match to Turkey when it
technically didn't matter. But it's been an exciting World Cup.
It's been fun. I'm not the biggest soccer person, but
like I love World Cup like the time because it's
I don't know, it's enjoyable. But like we watched the
Australia US game in a pub on the Upper West
Side recently. It's just I think it's also here. It's
like people continuing the community aspect of watching the Knicks play,
which was super fun. Like every single bar and restaurant
had watched parties out on these like closed down streets,
So it's nice to keep continuing that even though again
it's like one hundred degrees out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds like what I experienced when I saw
the game in France. It was so hot and we
went into a bar. The windows would not open. It
was so incredibly sweaty, and everyone was just watching the
game patiently and quietly, and I was like, I just
don't know if we have it in us to like
deal with this, but it was it was really a
sight to behold to watch a country like support their
team and every bar was watching the game.
Speaker 4: Did your hotel have AC?
Speaker 2: My Airbnb had AAC?
Speaker 1: Had AC Okay?
Speaker 3: And it was something we specifically look for when we're
booking when we do this trip, because we know it's
this is my second time going. I know that AC
is the most important thing. It's more important than location.
It's more important than how cool the kitchen looks or
any of that shit.
Speaker 2: The only thing I care.
Speaker 3: About is AC, and specifically picked a place where every
bedroom had its own unit. I was cold, I needed
a blanket. I was in heaven.
Speaker 6: Do.
Speaker 1: Was it the UK like banned AC because it was
killing the energy so much like last week? Or was
it a different kind?
Speaker 4: I mean there's barely any AC there anyway. I was
just trying to think. I just booked a hotel near
Wembley for August and I was like, oh fuck, I
didn't look to see if there's a C And the
last two two times I've been there recently have been
like no AC in the bnb's have been I'd.
Speaker 1: Be more worried and wait, where are you going in August?
Speaker 4: Like by Wembley.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh, I'd be more worried on like in
France than the UK. Okay, I mean hot into the UK,
but like, no, I'm not saying about the lack of
a C. I'm saying I'd be more worried about heat
in France. Oh sure, not that I can't get hot
in the UK, but like, yeah, I actually the I
the previous hottest day in recorded Paris history. I was
there a few years ago for a ghost recount breakpoint
event and you'd be soft, like, wouldn't really let us
leave the studio without getting right into a taxi that
took us back to the hotel which had AC, but
I remember they were like worried that we would just
get heat stroke. We walked outside. I think it went
up to like one oh seven or something.
Speaker 3: That's dangerous, and it's it's extremely dangerous because their culture
doesn't have a lot of AC right because they haven't
historically needed it and it's not good for the environment,
and so.
Speaker 1: I get it, but it is.
Speaker 3: It was dangerous, I think to not have it during
this period of time, and yeah, it was rough. When
I get home from this trip, the first thing I
do is always say, like, man, I'm so appreciative that
I even have the opportunity. It's a dream to have
a job that allows you to have these opportunities and
go around the world to do what we do. My
second thought was, I just am so glad to not
be in that heat anymore. And for whatever reason, Portland
right now is like sixty degrees in rainy.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm loving it.
Speaker 3: I had to wear a jacket today, you guys. I was,
I'm just so much happier in a jacket.
Speaker 4: It's fucking we have a heat wave right now, which
is caused I'm not shooting you today over well, over
one hundred millipedes down in this room. Like I'm not
kidding like that. It's not an exaggeration because after like
a big rain and then a heat wave, currently millipedes
come out. So I've had two vacuums, I've gone through
here the battery like I've been using them all day,
and it turns out the vacuum process doesn't fucking kill
the millipedes. So I looked in it at one point
today I think I did it, like while I was
on the bomb cast, and it was just like a
terrarium of millipedes. So it's like literally like if I
turn around, I bet I will see eight to twelve
millipedes on the ground right now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know. I like the idea, Yeah,
I like the idea that.
Speaker 3: Your weather channel is like listen, it's crazy's they're at
least twenty to thirty millipedes per hour coming down out there.
Speaker 1: It's not so bad. You just see how many millipedes.
Speaker 4: The cat would take care of it, and like Boss
will like run up and like look at it and
be like what the fuck And they'll like kind of
touch it with this paw and then just thar at
it and walk away.
Speaker 3: My god, damn it, that's for my pet Dan to handle.
Speaker 4: You could eat every one of these and it would
be the coolest shit. But now I'm just vacuuming up
millipedes all day.
Speaker 1: Jesus, that's fucking gross and horrible. It sucks so rain
and then heat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my understanding from just the googles in the last
couple of days is that, like, yes, if there is
like a lot of rain, that's moisture, and they love moisture,
so they're like, oh hey, moisture in the soil. So
they're at the soil. And then if the heat comes in,
they're like, what the fuck we wanted moisture, So they
try to go inside and like carpeted areas, basements usually
little more human stuff. So I got a dehumidifier coming tomorrow.
I bought some pesticide seven sprayed the printer of the
house today. But like, man, they are fucking everywhere. It sucks,
Jesus Christ. It's I don't like that they're harmless. It's
just fucking gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're gross. I don't want I don't like
want to be sleeping in a house that has millipede infestation.
Speaker 4: Man, that's a couple floors away, but down here, I
get to hang out with them all day.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, it's only okay yeah either way, still gross,
very gross.
Speaker 4: Do any legs? Don't need that many?
Speaker 1: Yeah, millipede? That did? They actually have a thousand legs?
Speaker 4: Is that a I think it's a thousand that that
would be too much.
Speaker 3: There's no way I would take I would take one
hundred millipedes over one silverfish.
Speaker 4: Silver Fishers are gross. Do you know how centipedes? Those
are kind of the worst.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I know what that is.
Speaker 4: We get those look up house centipede.
Speaker 1: House centipede. Are they different than a normal centipede?
Speaker 4: Yes, Oh they're definitely a thing around here. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, don't touch them.
Speaker 4: You'll see a few of them here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They look like silverfish too.
Speaker 4: They're gross. They're fucking gross, weird. They're big, they're like
too big, and they scape around really fast.
Speaker 3: They're too big.
Speaker 1: That is, they look like monsters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, these mellipedes are like slow. They have between forty
and four hundred legs according to this Google thirty four
and four hundred legs. Yet I hate him, so yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 1: We got to get a bat there.
Speaker 4: Anybody wants naming rights on this one.
Speaker 3: Pick it up and show us.
Speaker 4: You can fucking dare me do this? All right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, pick it up. He loves it. That's the thing
about Dan is he loves a challenge. I bet you
can't bring it to me and put it in front
of the camera.
Speaker 1: I really don't like this. I don't like. I'm not
I don't like hate bugs like Amanda does.
Speaker 3: He's not wearing shoes or socks.
Speaker 1: That's three thousand legs.
Speaker 3: He's got his little piggies down there with them. If
if there were centipedes in my room, I would be
wearing foot gear.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he got one.
Speaker 4: Hang on, I don't know, and I have a auto
focus on, but like, oh okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big, get a closure to your face. I was
thinking it would be like a big, big thing.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I mean so they're harmless and they're tiny,
but I'm fucking tired of them.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It looks like a little potato bug. That's really annoying. Guy. Yeah, millipedes,
you got like you're just battling nature all.
Speaker 4: No, woodpeckers have not been a big issue this year.
Because the boss hanging out in that hammock, and I
think the woodpeckers are like, whoa, we don't want to
go by there. We see a cat in the window. Yeah,
so like we got him. This wasn't even the plant.
I got him a little hammock gimmick for like the window.
He just likes to nap up there and it is visible,
like it is really close to the part of the
wall that the woodpeckers have always been attracted to. And
I think enough woodpeckers have seen Boss sitting there and
gone back to their woodpecker friends and been like fuck
that place. So like they're not hanging out here that much.
Like barely any woodpecker action this year. This boss is
doing a great job there.
Speaker 3: You naturally got rid of them without hurting the environment, which.
Speaker 4: Yes, did not even plan on it accident.
Speaker 2: I think that's cool.
Speaker 3: I mean, whether or not you stumbled into a peace
with the woodpeckers or you won the war, who's to say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did more damage than the millipedes.
Speaker 3: Well, they're pecking at your freaking house. I think millipede
they're just we get ants when it rains, because they're
trying to come up from the rain, and so to me,
they're not even like getting into my sugar or anything.
They're just like we're drowning out there. And I'm like
I get it. Guys, like you can stay here for
the night, but then you got to go back out
where you came from. I can't be an ant house
like you have your own house is my fucking house.
But like they when it rains, they find a way
in my house.
Speaker 4: You gotta get the stuff that's like it's the juice
or whatever where it's like it makes them like it's
like it's irresistible to them. It's these like drops and
they take it back to their It's it's like if
a person came back to their apartment and all the
roommates really it's like, oh, hey look I found all
these pizzas and then you eat all the pizzas and
you die. Like that's how these traps work, and it's
awesome to the high.
Speaker 2: If poison is how I choose to deal.
Speaker 4: With nature, though I poison them all, yes.
Speaker 2: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: Like I have a friend who poisons the perimeter of
their house and they're like it really reduces all the
spiders every year.
Speaker 4: I spray that did that today because the millipedes, that's
that's like.
Speaker 1: A deterrent too, like it's not sure.
Speaker 3: You're just doing a little poison circle around your house,
whereas like you know, animals need to exist there too.
Speaker 4: Well, I put little tiny signs for the ants to say,
we don't call nine one one and a gun on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh.
Speaker 3: It looks like where they have pirates in pirates hung
up by the string and it's like, you know, beware,
but it's just a little millipedes hanging from a string.
Speaker 1: Do have a bunch of signs around the house. It's weird.
They're bright yellow. It says the police love the Second Amendment.
That yeah, he's always he has the big gun guy. Yeah, yeah,
he's yeah, it's a big n RA guy. So the
millipedes are saying they have little flags. Don't tread on me.
Speaker 4: The millipedes don't find guns one for each leg.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, video game, that'd be sick. It's like
a serious sounded. Yeah, uh speak about Do you want
to talk about video games? All right? Dan? You played
the game? Mary recommended Tara Tech Legion the auto shooter
meets Lego car Builder then.
Speaker 4: I described it on the BombCast as a Vampire Survivors
meets Banjo KAZUOI nuts and bolts, and to me, like,
that's a couple of things you can put together in
my brain, I know would be like, oh, I like
that idea quite a bit. Mary, great recommendation you describing
in I was like, I'm curious now. I looked up
the Steam page and I saw like two seconds of
the game play and it was like this, sing's up
my alley. It's awesome. It's great on the Steam deck.
Been playing a lot on the Steam machine. It is, man,
it is. It's the what's the word. It's the cliche
with one of these games where it's like one more run,
one more run, and the next thing you know, it's
hours later.
Speaker 1: You die a lot. I die a lot.
Speaker 4: I've died a good amount. I beat the first two
areas with the first rig, like you lot of different
rigs and stuff like that, Like I won't go all
the way into it last time. Yeah, a lady, but
then you get the guy. Afterwards.
Speaker 1: I got hand and then you get the guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're starting with the lady, but then you get.
Speaker 4: It's a very deep game. Yeah, no, I do love
like it is so good at just the drip feed
of just like the persistent upgrades and stuff reminds me
of Rogue Legacy, where it's like every time you come back,
it's like, all right, well, I have all these like
yellow tokens. I can spend on something else, make myself
a little stronger. But more than anything, I just love
this blank canvas. Every run where it's like I go
in and I've just got some dopey rectangular thing with
four wheels, and very quickly it's like I love getting
that first box and being like, okay, I got an
orbital laser. Okay, I'm gonna focus on energy weapons here,
and I'm gonna get a bunch of fucking lasers on
the front of my thing. And by the end I've
wanted I've taken screenshots of like a lot of my things,
because by the end it's just this fucking monstrosity with
like twelve wheels coming off and just a million lasers
and just weird boxes I've shoved everywhere. Like I love
getting the extra boxes where it's just like a four
x two and just just go there so I can
shove a bunch of shit on there and a bunch
of guns and trying to optimize it so none of
the guns are blocking the placement of the other ones
or anything because.
Speaker 3: They have different field fields of view, and so if
you have a three sixty field of view, you need
to shoot that guy up like six.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: You're like a tower basically, you make a tower tower. Yeah,
it's like a sniper tower. Or there's the ones where
it's like, okay, it's like a three fur where there's
like three different cannons, like I'm in the corner here
and this is going to shoot my back right, and
then on the back left, I've got this mind layer
and then this thing up top that kind of just
rotates and I'd put it on a tower and it's
like a sniper lookout thing. And then you're just driving
around and there are runs where it's just like there's
so much shit on the screen and you're just doing
fucking donuts around this giant just huge group of like
mech enemies and stuff, and everything's fucking exploding. You're leveling
up constantly. It is. I mean, I love Vampire Survivors
and I love Nuts and Bolts and like building my
own stupid like thing, and this is really really doing
it for me. So very incredible recommendation.
Speaker 3: Kay, I'm glad it's I really do think it's a
hidden gem. I think people are it might be overlooked
just because of the I don't think the name is great.
I don't think that it is selling the experience of this.
It is a fun game where you build a vehicle
and kill people with it, and you can build ridiculous machines.
Because there is a would you call that like, there's
a three you pick three and.
Speaker 2: You cannot make the same vehicle twice.
Speaker 3: It makes you change your system and that's important to
me for runs, because I will be like, well, I
just know I'm a poison Run person, so we'll just
do Poison Run forever.
Speaker 2: That's not how you can play this game.
Speaker 3: Every time. You're going to get different guns, and you're
gonna get a different build. And so I was finally like, well,
I guess I'll try the one wheel back system and
I'll only have diamond grinders on the front, and I'll
only do the orbital cannon. It's so fun to have
a very different vehicle each time, and you find out
what works and what doesn't.
Speaker 1: I've made some total beasts.
Speaker 4: I like itting just the fucked up ones too, where
it's like, all right, so all of mine are like
impact damage, and I've got all these extenders, and so
I've got just I'm just surrounded by spikes. Is my
whole fucking thing. And I and then I'm like upgrading
my boost like crazy, and so all I'm doing is
just boosting my spike car into everything on the map.
It just feels incredible, like love it. And the physics
are on it too, where it's like it is a
polygonal like three D game, so it's like you could
like fuck up and put wheels everywhere, and this one's
lower than the others and it affects the physics of
how you turn and everything, and like you can make
some crazy, crazy contraptions.
Speaker 2: I think it's forgiving.
Speaker 3: But yes, if you if you have a car with
one wheel it you will die, right, It will say
this doesn't drive and you're a ding dong. You do
have to be focused to at least make a functional car.
But I like what you were saying of like you
can have eighteen wheels. Yeah, you can make a real
long limousine of death. If that is what you choose
it to do with your time.
Speaker 4: Well, and something I was concerned about when you were
just describing it was like, okay, so it sounds like
you're frequently going into this like kind of like Lego
putting together the ship or the car type thing, and
you are. And I was worried that, like, Okay, maybe
this isn't going to be a great or maybe this
will be a test of like the track pads on
the steam deck and this seems like a mouse type
of No, it's actually really good for controller, Like the
actual driving around is really good for controller. And then
they just do a lot of really good magnetizing to
the connectors, Like the connectors are very very clear, like
you can put this thing here you need it. Like
there's so many times too where it's like I get
a new thing and it's like, okay, this should be
on the back of my vehicle. Yeah, I've got all
this other shit here, and so I'll just highlight a
bunch of stuff with my cursor and be a bunch
like go back, go back, go back, like send it
back to your inventory. I'm putting this right here, and
then I'm going to rethink how I'm building this thing
out and like that is like literally half of the
game to me is like half of it is doing
the killing and driving around vampires, driver stuff, and the
other half is like staring at this fucking like car
and rotating it and putting a bunch of guns on it. Like, yeah, man,
I love it.
Speaker 1: He did a good job with the dpad. Yeah, I
want to play a game. It's download on my Steam deck.
I didn't realize they it's the same publisher, mythright, they're
doing a summer sale right now, or they're part of
the summer sale the Throne Fall as well. It was
a tower defense city builder that I played, and I
think it came out twenty twenty five, early twenty five,
late twenty four. Really good tower defense game. If no
one's played it, I actually I kind of want to
replay that game, so maybe I'll play both some point
talk about it. But they published some cool stuff, like
the stuff of this caliber, like indie but really well made.
Speaker 3: That's how I found it.
Speaker 4: I think right now it's like eight bucks and.
Speaker 3: I found it through the sale and I.
Speaker 4: Put a lot of hours into it already, and I'm
gonna feel like there's I can just see on the map, like, Okay,
there's two whole rigs I've not unlocked. There's two planets
I haven't done. There's like a lot of challenges, Like
I think I'm gonna get a lot of time out
of this. And if it's like eight bucks, that's an
easy recommendation to me.
Speaker 3: It's it is a contender for plane game. Oh yeah,
people who are traveling. This is a game, like you said,
this is a run based game where you could easily
pick this up and play. And as my plane was
landing from one of my flights, I was like, hurry, hurry, hurry,
And I was like trying to beat it while the
wheels were touching down on the tarmac because I wanted
to make sure I was getting credit for this unbelievable
beast that I had built.
Speaker 2: It's been a joy.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 3: I have another nice thing that I found out about it,
which is on the plane, I ran out of batteries
and so it shut down three fourths through a run,
which broke my heart, you know, like it's gone. The
car that I built and all the progress, the money
that I had collected, the credits I kept them.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's like otter saving the Okay, that's.
Speaker 3: Awesome, So I got my money back at least, so
to me, I was like, that's kind of a bonus win.
That for the person who like gets really heartbroken when
they can't finish a run because it's the end of
the day, or like you have to go back to
work so you have to quit, it actually gave me
partial credit.
Speaker 4: The runs can be kind of lengthy. I think this
is one where it's like, I haven't really time to doubt,
but I would guess between thirty and forty five if
you're going to like be I give.
Speaker 3: Myself an hour. Yeah, I give myself an hour. And
because especially with the building, yeah, the building can take
a long time. If you choose to remove all of
the pieces of your car and rebuild it, I would
say runs could be upwards of an hour, but they
could be as fast as thirty minutes if you're just
like whatever, boost more boots, more boosts, and you can
also my favorite is just the upgrade a current gun.
And I love that. Yes, yes, you can choose to
just upgrade a current gun that you have. You don't
have to rebuild anything. You just make your guns stronger.
Speaker 4: It also does that Vampire Survivors thing where it's like, Okay,
it's fun immediately, like just running around and watching all
this auto shooting and stuff. But it's very smart with
how it doles out the upgrades, and like a lot
of the upgrades are tied to like there's a laundry
list of achievements and like challenges, so like there's like
the global ones, there's ones for each particular driver and
stuff like that, and as you're on Life, there's a
drip feed of like, okay, now you could get this
thing in a run, like the Orbital canon maybe isn't
open in the beginning, but after you beat this thing
or this challenge, it'll pop up. So like I looked
at it today and I think there's like three hundred
four hundred possible unlocks of like blocks for my thing,
and I've got like seventy or eighty and it's called Man,
there's so much more for me to see, and like,
I'm not even remotely close to tired with this.
Speaker 1: So yeah, games, I want to play that.
Speaker 4: It kicks ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of games that are going on Steam Deck, Mary,
you played the David Diver DLC, so yes, for context,
we talked about David Diver what two years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, came out in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Just like what I don't even know how to describe it.
Sim game management kind of It's a bit Stardoo Valley.
Speaker 3: It's a bit uh, restaurant management or like what is
it called the one where you're a waitress the waitress
game Serve served up, serve them, serve hot over pipe
and hot and and and it's a little deep sea
diving sim.
Speaker 1: So you're just and that was like islanding. This brings
things to the Jungle. From my understanding, I really wanted
to pass it, not get time is it? How are
you finding it?
Speaker 3: It's good? Uh, Dave the Diver is fantastic. I have
kind of always wanted an excuse to go back into it.
Speaker 2: This is pretty new.
Speaker 3: This came out in June. This is a brand new DLC,
specifically for the Jungle. Hilariously, I downloaded. I downloaded this
like without question. I was just like, oh, I loved
Dave of the Diver. I want more of that. I'll
play it. Downloaded, it installed, it opened the game, and
it said, hey, just so you know, you do need
to run credits on the original game. Ohh, and I thought,
and I said to myself, I didn't I.
Speaker 2: Didn't beat this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and two years ago, despite the fact that I
really liked Dave the Diver and I probably put eighteen
hours into it. I can't remember exactly, but like I
played this game, I didn't beat it.
Speaker 1: So you guys, I put Dave the Diver DLC.
Speaker 3: But I just want you to know I put ten
hours into finishing goddamn game. I played it the whole
flight home and like an additional four hours on Sunday
to get through this main game. I forgot how long
this game goes, and it's a little brutal. I will
lovingly say that Dave the Diver overstays. It's welcome Towards
the end of this game. Dave the Diver is the
best when you are diving for fish and collecting rare
fish and then serving them up as soush. The end
of this game is crazy puzzles and boss fights, which
I don't think is where this game shines.
Speaker 1: Such a weird gamem force people to beat in order
to play the DLC.
Speaker 4: It is the game. It was a notoriously way too
long because I felt the same way where it's like
I loved it. I think we talked about how good
of a playing game it was and stuff like that,
but I can't remember. I swear I got like twenty
hours into it or something, and then it was there's
way more going on here, so like that's a choice
to have to beat it to access that.
Speaker 3: I was a bummer towards like the end of Sunday.
I was like, because I had already spent this This
DLC is ten dollars, and I was like, I've already
spent ten dollars on this DLC.
Speaker 1: I am playing it. I was so committed to beating
this game.
Speaker 3: But the last two hours of this game are a
bit of a slog. It's just you get another fucking
sea person that you have to do puzzles with, so
you're playing one with the left joystick and one with
the right joystick. You're learning a whole new set of rules,
a whole new set of puzzles, and I was like,
I don't give a shit about any of these puzzles.
Speaker 2: I just want to see the jungle.
Speaker 3: I get through all the puzzles, there's another goddamn fish
under there. They keep discovering new species of fish and
then you have to kill them. I found another fucking
massive fish that I had to kill. It was like
a dinosaur. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I killed it.
Speaker 3: I ran credits. I finally played this game. The DLC
is very enjoyable. I am in the jungle, my dudes,
and it is very nice to have a very different environment.
The first thing you'll notice is is that you actually
are in the jungle, which means there's a lot of
above the water gameplay now, which is like shaking trees
for papayas bananas, you know. So that's a jungle fruits.
You're enjoying meeting the villagers. It's more stardow than ever.
You're meeting the villagers and you have to befriend them
by finding out the gift that they want giving it
to them. Then they like you enough to visit your restaurant.
Boncho does come and he opens up a restaurant in
the middle of this jungle, but it's like not a
sushi restaurant. He's essentially like I'm gonna make food with
whatever you give me. You actually have to work with
the locals to build stuff for Boncho to serve. So
the first thing that I built was a grill, and
so he makes flame grilled fish, kebabs and skewers and
like rice dishes. Is because I bought him this grill,
and so it's kind of well made him it and
so it's like fun. You're, you know, chopping up wood
and bamboo and stones to build resources to make your
restaurant this this time, So it's different. They mixed it up.
Speaker 4: Does it still have that like bar element of like, oh,
you're sliding the drinks and pouring the drinks, Like is
all that still going on?
Speaker 2: It's a coconut.
Speaker 1: You have to hit l are.
Speaker 2: Oh so it's a whole coconut.
Speaker 4: You kill them.
Speaker 3: You hit the bumpers to slice the coconut, so bop bop,
bop bop, and then to stab the coconut. You have
tit a at the right time. And if you do that,
you make the perfect coconut drink. And if you don't,
you make a good coconut, which impacts your fire rating,
which you obviously do want to to help your locals. Yes,
you are slinging drinks, you are also serving up different foods.
He makes the fire food, you make the kebab. So
if somebody orders a a skewer, you have to go
figure that shit out yourself. I've already hired a local kid.
He's a bit of a ding gung, but he is
good at slinging skewers, so I do have some help already.
Like I'm growing my restaurant. You know, it's got growth.
Speaker 1: I was really looking forward to it now that I
know I have to beat the game. Like, I don't
even know if i'd remember half the system's going. I mean,
it's a simple game. It's more like the one like
compelling thing lead to another part of the gameplay loop.
But like I was looking forward to that. I was
the one who mentioned in discord. I was like, apparently
this DLC is really good. It's a good DLC.
Speaker 3: I have to warn I have to warn the good
people of fire Escape that if you did not play
or finish the main game, you have to finish it.
Speaker 1: And it is.
Speaker 3: I am not super impressed with the end of Day
of the Diver I was kind of bummed. Maybe it's
because I wanted to get to the DLC, but that's
probably ninety nine percent of the reason that you would
play it.
Speaker 2: At this point, this game.
Speaker 1: Is two years old.
Speaker 3: The idea that you all have to get through that
is a negative unfortunately, But I did like the the
what I've played of the deal see so far, it
is they've reclaimed that magic.
Speaker 2: All new animations.
Speaker 3: You guys know that they did gorgeous custom animations for
all the things that happen in this game, right, and
so it's.
Speaker 2: Just like bon Schos discovering all these new things.
Speaker 3: They have all new animations for everything that happens to
all the different characters, which I think is fun.
Speaker 2: When you create a new dish, they have a.
Speaker 3: Local animal do a little dance, and so those have
like a little meerkat or like a little snake, and
then it'll just be like, yeah, that's right, it's a
saucy little new dish and it's it's electric, you guys
like it really creates a mood.
Speaker 2: They make a they make a good game.
Speaker 3: And uh oh, it's not an ocean, right, You're in
the middle of a jungle, so it's a lake. And
the way that they have made it more interesting is
the lake at least at this point, it has it's
like muggy, it's got I don't know, it tastes, it's
not a good environment, So you need millipedes. Mill it's
covered in melipedes. You need special equipment in order to
get there with Murky thank you, it's like kind of poisonous,
so you have to do with the scientists to have
not just oxygen, but you need to be able to
prevent yourself from getting poisoned in the water. So there's
two things you got to watch out for, your oxygen
and your poison meter.
Speaker 2: Brand new animals down.
Speaker 3: There that are pretty freaky deeky. I found my first
electric eel that was absolutely vile. I've died a couple
times from underwater creatures that will scary you.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: Oh, crocodiles and like, you know, just crazy new fresh
water creatures.
Speaker 1: For anyone who remembers.
Speaker 3: Save the Diver knows it's it's exhilarating to take down
a shark. They are scary. This game it's still got it,
you guys. It's scary, but it's it's adorable.
Speaker 1: It's playful.
Speaker 3: This game is funny. They've done a great job with
it being funny. It plays off of Duck h On.
I don't like, I don't want to give away like
all the stuff, but it's like this is the type
of game where it's just like, hey, it's a mini
game now and it's duck hunt, like get out there.
Speaker 1: It's it's playful. That came out the same gear if
memory serves as a Dredge and I've been stuff and
that game, I thought the ending like that game was
well paid straight through to the end, and that also
I never.
Speaker 3: Played if you want to end, I got a Dredge.
Speaker 1: Yes, And Dredge also got DLC where you go to
the Arctic to fish, and I never played that. But
I'm also curious now if you need to beat the
original Dredge, because I like both those games. They had
that very like systemic systems driven gameplay loop where one
activity is leading into the next and you're never kind
of like doing one thing for too long. So I
want to try both of those again. But I don't know.
I don't think I'm going to play the entirety of
Dave the Diver. Unfortunately, it's to be realistic, it's a
big ask.
Speaker 3: I will say, like I'm in for what it's worth.
Actually for people who have beaten d the Diver, I
think this DLC is pretty It's going to be a
lot more gameplay for ten bucks. I think you're gonna
get your money's worth. This is the type of game.
They just put so much TLC in it. The amount
of side quests. There's a whole space side quest. There's
like a Elon Musk esque like loser Who's hanging out
and you're figuring out what's going on with that. There's
there's so many different mysteries going on in the jungle,
not to mention all the different lake creatures you're going
to find throughout this game.
Speaker 2: It's a fantastically well made game.
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of whether or not you can
stomach going through the main game if you haven't yet.
Speaker 4: I mean, my thought is like like stomach is like
I remember enjoying it a lot and the going too
long and then I fell off, So like I do
feel like it's something that I could potentially go back
to and find enjoyment again and not like like playing
through forty fifty hours that and one go not one sitting,
you know, yeah, like yeah that seems like a lot,
but like at this point, it's like I've kind of
forgotten a lot of that game, and you describing this
reminds me of like oh right. I did, like just
the I love that game. I could see myself going
back and be like, all right, well, I'm enjoying finishing
this up anyway, I still have my save.
Speaker 3: I did enjoy doing it. What I would also recommend
is there's just a billion side quests in Dave the Diver.
Speaker 2: That's what it's known for. You don't need to do them.
Speaker 3: The mistake that I made when I it's not a
mistake the way that I played this two years ago.
It's not like I like made a huge mistake by
enjoying the game by doing.
Speaker 1: On the side quest. I was so focused on the
side quest.
Speaker 3: I probably spent fifteen out of my hours just building
up my sushi restaurant because it's fun. So when I
actually was like I'm going to focus on beating the story,
I had a lot left to go.
Speaker 1: I had.
Speaker 3: I think when I had played this with you guys
and talked about it, I probably had just met the
sea people that is there. I think there's seven chapters.
I think I was like, yeah, there's like chapters. That's
really chapter two or three?
Speaker 4: And is that around when like they start introducing the
part where there's like there's like the different pools where
it's like you can like store different fish in this
like grid. Like yeah, and I met the sea people
and like, man, we're really this is a whole deal
it But I got started valleys crammed into one.
Speaker 3: I got chicken that you get chickens.
Speaker 1: And you get eggs.
Speaker 3: There's there's so many things, and it's.
Speaker 1: Really up to you.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people really like all the
different ways that you can play in Dave of the Diver.
You can play different things. You can just be like, listen,
all I care about is building the best sushi restaurant
of all time, and you can spend twenty hours doing that.
So it's really up to you. If you are interested
in the DLC, I would just say focus on the
main story, which you absolutely can cry through and enjoy
for the record, and then you get to have this
totally different and new world that you get to explore
and and and play with. And I do love it,
and I'm glad at the end of the day, I'm
so glad that I'm getting to experience Dave of the
Diver again.
Speaker 2: This is a.
Speaker 3: Phenomenal game by a really well constructed team. They understand
the balance of amazing animation and fun gameplay mechanics. The
loop is good, you guys, It's it's it's a great game.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to play it again.
Speaker 1: Nice cool, Dan, you've been playing Rhythm Heaven Groove.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I don't have Rhythm. Uh look, this is
not a surprise to anyone.
Speaker 3: Do you have Heaven?
Speaker 4: Well yeah, let me tell you about Lord Groove, which,
by the way, Mike, I'm at the part of the
sopranos for the one Jais's Boyfriend's kind of have you
heard the good News? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I
have no Rhythm. In fact, I remember I was supposed
to review the Wei Rhythm Heaven game a Game Informer,
and I was so bad at it. At the Monkey
Yeah it's the first party in the Tendo game. And
I was so bad at the fucking Monkey clock mini
game or whatever I asked hin or I think if
I could be like, hey, I shouldn't be on this review.
I I am objectively terrible of this and I think
I reviewed it. Still. I think I was Rhythm Heaven.
I might have it. It was whatever the Wii one was, actually,
because this is what this is like.
Speaker 1: The third.
Speaker 4: Boy, I think there's Rhythm having Fever. There's a DS
one and a WI one groove. Uh yeah, I got
a review here for wait no sorry, this is good message.
Okay grubs upcoming review the current one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, five stars of five. Weird eyah, weird.
Speaker 4: I appreciate this game or what it is. It is
like dripping in that Nintendo weird warriorware style, you know.
It is very rhythm based. It's a million like mini games.
If you're playing like this single player thing, it's just
like little vignettes almost, like here's the part where you're
launching the frogs in the air to a beat. Here's
the part where you're like a lady chopping vegetables for dinner,
and you got to like time her humming to hitting
a when like someone throws a bell pepper at her,
and it's it's all just very like quaint and funny.
And every time I unlock a new one, it's like, okay,
what's this one. Oh, we're shooting a car commercial and
I have to like, you know, break and accelerate, you know,
to the beat of the music and stuff like that.
It's it's fun minigames, for sure. It's more than a warriorware.
A warriwear is five seconds you hit a button once.
This is a little more extended, for sure. It has
co op games. There are Me and Punk played some
that was very funny because neither of us have any rhythm.
Oh no, yeah, Like so here's every time being banked
at a co op one. She would miss something hilariously
at the very very beginning, like just really biffit on
the first one and start laughing really hard of how
bad she is, and then she would miss consecutive ones
and it just kept snowballing as she just missed all
of them, and she laughed harder and harder, and we're
just blowing it terribly. So we were awful at it.
But like there's a lot of variety. There's like this
like almost like turn based RPG type thing where you're
casting spells to a rhythm and like to do fire,
it's this, than this, to do lightning, it's this, this this, Uh,
it's there's not a ton of depth here. It's all
just kind of hitting a or a deep ad thing
to rhythm. But there is a lot of personality. I
don't know if it's enough to say like yeah, you know, run,
don't walk go buy this thing, but it's switched one.
If you got to switch one, you haven't gone and
switch too yet and you're just looking for something new,
like some weird first party Nintendo stuff. It's charming. I
don't think it's like an amazing game or anything like that,
but if you enjoy the previous ones, you'll probably like this.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Nintendo, you're playing Star Fox. Well, yeah, I
was that because I'm curious about that. I feel like
the last time Star Fox was in headlines it was
because it was bad.
Speaker 4: What was the last one? Well, all of them since
sixty four have been bad. But they remade sixty four again,
so it's good again. Yeah no, like yeah before?
Speaker 1: Oh no.
Speaker 4: The last thing I heard is people were mad because
I guess they remade the models. Now people don't want
to fuck the Space Fox as much as they did,
so people were mad about that. I like it because
they look like the weird puppets from the first SNS art.
But this is Starfux sixty four, which is the best
buy a fucking mile. Like the SNS one and the
sixty four one are the only good ones. Since sixty
four is a million times better. They keep remaking it
because it's fucking great and it holds up. It's timeless.
It is so like one to one in terms of
the feel of flying around and like just the basic
flow of the game that I kind of wish they
had the like, oh, you can hit left bumper to
switch back and forth between the old and new graphics,
which is my favorite fucking thing. Anytimes a remake that
lets you do that, I can't stop pressing that button,
and every single time, oh wow, oh it looks so
much better now, Like Common Evolved, there's that XBLA GoldenEye
that never got released, but you can emulate. Yeah, there's
a handful that'll do that. I just think it's the
best gimmick. But it's just Starbucks sixty four is like
maybe the best age sixty four game. It's up there
with like Mario sixty four in a Karina in terms
of like or majora where you play this now and
it's still incredible and it is. It just looks way better.
So it's like, oh, you like the best Star Fox game,
what if it looked a billion times better and has
multiplayer that no one's really gonna play. I've actually heard
some people like it I just multiplayer in Starbucks has
never been the thing I went to it for. It's
pretty wond to one. There's not a lot of changes here.
There's some like different dialogue and like handset like how
to get the alternate paths to different planets and things
like that, but it is still that very like, hey,
you better want to replay this game because it is
like an hour to beat it, and then you need
to go back and I'll get metals, I'll find alternate routes,
I'll do all this stuff. So like I've beaten it
four or five times now. Every time it's fun as hell.
Speaker 1: So I forgot that submarine, like i'd retank. I remember
the tank, but then yeah, like got a yeah, I remember.
What do you have to do? You had to go
through certain rings to get into some of those alternate worlds.
Speaker 4: So some of them, like on Medios the asteroid belts,
you had to go through like seven energy things to
like like go to the next thing. On Corneraria, you
have to go under these arches, these like stone arches
to go through the waterfall. There's somewhere it's like, oh,
the water level is a zone as I think where
there's a bunch of search lights, so it's kind of
like a stealth approach, and if one of the search
lights spots you, you're taking the standard extent, but to
get the better one, you can attack all of the
search lights before they see you, and then you'll take
the B route basically. So it's just that's a really smart,
good replayability on that game, and like even if it's
the same route you just played the time before, it
just feels really fucking good to play. I mean there's
gimmicks they added, like the joy Con like co op
stuff and everything, where like one player can pilot the
ship and the other ones the gunner seat, and it's
it's not great so but just as a remake of
like one of the best sixty four games, I fucking
love it.
Speaker 1: Fifty bucks which two mm hmm. Interesting the god the
R Wing's still fucking cool looking, Like yeah, I think
the R Wing is like cooler looking at a lot
of Star Wars ships.
Speaker 4: They added a lot of story stuff, which I don't
think I needed. I watched them all the first time
just out of like, well, I guess I should probably
watch this and then just subsequent runs skip it immediately.
Speaker 1: I don't need that. Yeah, cool, I had not played
sixty four in a long time.
Speaker 4: It's fun as fuck, I Mike, I think you would
like it if you enjoyed sixty four.
Speaker 1: It was one of my most played games. Yeah, I
remember like I was one of the first people in
my family, which is rare because I was the youngest
to like discover I figure of which alternate root it was,
and that just blew my mind when I was like
that age. I like that system quite a bit. Yeah,
Mary Isado or Cato Butter, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is a game that I also found on
a sale. It's so it's so affordable, and it's just
a cute little puzzle game. There are times, especially during
stressful times in my life or in work, where I'm like,
I just want I just want a little puzzle game
that scratches my noodle. This game was on the Steam
Sail because it's a couple of years old, but I
hadn't played it.
Speaker 2: It's pretty simple.
Speaker 1: You're a cat.
Speaker 3: You cannot jump, but if you have buttered toast on
your back, you can, and that is the premise of it.
So as the cat, you need to figure out if
you should have the toast on your back, so you
can jump to certain areas, or if you need to
allow the toast to be free to do its own thing,
in which case the toast is allowed to jump without you,
but it also doesn't have all of your movement, like
a toast can't jump on ice for some reason. Of course,
you know the rules of toast they apply here. So
this is a This is a puzzle but also platformer
where you are doing certain mechanics at certain times once
you've solved the puzzle.
Speaker 1: To get through as a toast cat.
Speaker 3: It's just cute and simple, and it does play on
various different games. It has a bit like it has
references to Flappybird. It has references to what's that game
where you're a snake and you're eating but you don't
want your own tail? Yeah, that one you play?
Speaker 4: No, No, you're thinking a snake snakes a phone game
or the calculator game.
Speaker 3: It's the snake one, but you're a cat. Anyway, I
don't need to to go on and on about this.
This game is very affordable. I think it was uh gosh,
I think because I had already bought a part of it.
You know, like if you buy a bundle it's even cheaper.
I think I got this game for like three dollars
and I just I just thought it was very cute
and I've gotten already. I've gotten so many hours out
of it just playing little puzzle mini games of a.
Speaker 1: Cat and toast.
Speaker 3: So I liked it. But I don't think this will
be for so many people out there.
Speaker 1: But I just want to let you guys know it's
a cute.
Speaker 3: Little puzzle game, especially for people out there that are
like I want. This isn't a turn your brain off game.
Speaker 1: For the record, it is puzzles.
Speaker 2: You have to think.
Speaker 3: This is a calm, relax puzzle platformer. It's not stressful.
You're a fucking cat. You know you're finding your toast.
It's not a big deal. And I think it's very relaxed.
To me, I found this very relaxing and calming and
something that I could play before I went to bed
at night.
Speaker 1: And I liked it nice. I didn't really I supposed to.
It sounded familiar and then it looks it up. It's like, oh,
it's based on the buttered cat paradox, or now the
buttered toast cat paradox. Other buttered cat paradox, Like, say
it right, which one do you mean? Paradox? Every just
like that thing.
Speaker 4: I hate the thing.
Speaker 1: It's more of a joke. It's more every cat will
land on its feet, but buttered toast will always fall
buttered side down. So the paradox is, what if you like,
fasten a piece of buttered toast butter side up on
the back of a cat, then what happens? But okay,
the cat is.
Speaker 4: I don't mean to go into divisive territory here, but
there's two things I fucking hate. There's Schrodinger's cat and
there's the argument about free will. These are two stupid,
fucking arguments that are easily provable, and it shouldn't even be.
It's like, oh, it's diehard a Christmas movies, like I
don't know, it's whatever. Shut up Schor's cat.
Speaker 1: Schroedingers, stop at it, whatever to it.
Speaker 4: They try to act like the cat could be there
or not be there at the same time. It can
be both at the same time. No, it fucking can't.
The cat's or it isn't proved done. Let's not talk
about it anymore.
Speaker 1: Prove it.
Speaker 4: I'll take the fucking box off oh ship, there's a cat.
Second one, free will. Hand on, I want to talk
about free.
Speaker 1: You're misrepresenting it. You're misrepresenting it. Once you touch the
box and you interact with the thing you're trying to observe,
you then put it in one state. That's the whole idea.
Speaker 4: It's like, but even if I don't know yet, right
there is or isn't a cat in that fucking box,
prove it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what I know. I can't prove it exactly.
That's the whole fucking point.
Speaker 4: But it doesn't change whether there's a cat or not
in there. There's a fucking there is or isn't. There
isn't a fucking riddle about this. The other one is
free will. The other one is free wills.
Speaker 1: Free will is their free will.
Speaker 4: Yeah, guess what, I'm going to lift my left hand. Whoop,
there we go, there's free will.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about something interesting.
Speaker 1: But this argument led to you leading that one, and
everything before that led to you having this argument.
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're saying, but every time I
hear about cat or free will, I get mad. You
don't know how to a horship argument said, this is
nothing these are nothing arguments.
Speaker 1: They're not arguments. What they did?
Speaker 4: You go great philosophical questions? Yes, that's no, they're not
there's a cat, there isn't a cat, And yes, I
can fucking do whatever I want.
Speaker 1: Prove there's a cat in the box without touching it
or opening it, I can't. But one one answer is
correct once you interact with it and you know certain No,
it's correct, whether I know or don't know. How do
you know that? Though? You need to prove that.
Speaker 4: A cat can't be there and not be there at
the same time, But you can't sureteer's a fucking dope.
Speaker 1: It's not his name, prove it.
Speaker 4: I really do hate these arguments.
Speaker 1: Have you seen Yeah?
Speaker 4: I love it. It's a great movie.
Speaker 1: That whole fucking movie is about the paradox of free will.
They have an entire conversation.
Speaker 4: I'm not robots and stuff, I'm a man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's whether they she can exercise free will
or did she like the whole point they talk about it.
Speaker 3: I know you did the whole movie that you hate.
Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of movies I see
and I like a lot, and I don't think I cat.
Speaker 3: I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: In the box or not in the box, one or
the other, not fucking both.
Speaker 3: I don't think it.
Speaker 1: Don't know that though, Yes, you don't know that.
Speaker 4: I know that it can't be both. I don't know
which it is. It can't be both.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, you're arguing that it's neither. Then there's
absolutely no cat in the box.
Speaker 4: Let's test this next time I come to your place,
put or don't put one of your cats in a box.
Speaker 1: One of them is going.
Speaker 4: To be right.
Speaker 1: But how are you going to prove it without touching it?
I don't know what you know. You know, but you
don't and you can't prove it until you actually interact.
I don't have the information you reacted with that, So
like that's again, moot.
Speaker 4: Yes, just people need to get some real problems.
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, without looking at me, Dan, without like keep
looking at me, No, that wouldn't work. You can probably
expect a millipede in your room somewhere. I was gonna say,
is there a millipede behind you?
Speaker 4: Right now? Care? Right?
Speaker 1: That doesn't work because you, like you have empirical evidence
to prove that there is. It's a bad example. I
shouldn't have shouldn't have brought that up. But I love
I love when I love when Dan says he hates
something and then completely morphs what it's actually about, but
then also proves it somehow proves it correct.
Speaker 4: And so I'm just trying to make people think, Michael Clo.
Speaker 1: You're very good at doing that. I for a day
job research thing and for a consulting research thing, I
replayed Marvel Spider Man two.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: We talked about that game. I liked the first one
a lot. I liked Miles Morales. Miles Morales was felt
obviously size wise, more like a spin off, but it
was still cool to see Miles take over the Spider
Man role. He had different powers. I only played a
few hours of two back in the day. I want
to sit in the back in the day, like what
two years ago when it came out, I think we
all liked it, but it wasn't like it wasn't groundbreaking
for us. I went just to play it because I
wanted to do more research, Like I still didn't think
it's my favorite game of all time. And yeah, those
games are great about just the freedom and fluid movement
of exploring new York on that scale is just super
satisfying to begin with, but I looking back, it's fucking
crazy that they nailed that structure of Okay, here's this
huge triple a open world game about this one character,
and then hey, there's here's this smaller scale but still
substantial open world game about someone else like filling that role. Oh,
here's this third game where they're both going to join
forces and both feel like very well designed character action
fighting protagonists in their own right, but you could swap
between them. I've said, there's certain parts where you have
to play as Miles, there are other parts you have
to play as Peter for the story, and there's definitely
a lot of bloat in that game. I also realized
not everybody like it gives a shit about hearing about
Marvel Spider Man two right now, But that's what I've
been playing, and I don't want to not talk about
a game. I just want to give that game. It's
Flowers again. And also, like Insomniac, just from the beginning,
has been morphing with almost every game. They started with
fucking Spi. Well they had games before Spiro, but like
start with Spiro, went to Ratchet and Clank Fuse is
not the best game, but they tried that four player
cooperative third person shooter Sunset Overdrive was rad. I don't know.
There's just very few like studios with that kind of
budget throughout their lifespan, where their portfolio is so varied,
and I appreciate that. It's just fun looking back that
they got the Marvel license for Spider Man, because Spider
Man's who is just still rat as hell. There's a
lot of filler side activities early on. They really like
making you Peter Parker and Miles walk slowly through environments
while someone talks to them. Once you get past that,
it's great. I don't love the Mary Jane stealth stuff
in that series. No, it's not a perfect game by
any means, but like I don't know.
Speaker 4: When I dropped off of two, there's another one like
when people like probably when I dropped coming into her
house and stuff, and I was like, I'm just it's
a good game, but I just had to.
Speaker 2: End it with some action.
Speaker 3: They had to give you, like something to fight at
the end of it, to be like there's a reward
for all of the stealth.
Speaker 2: But it's like, I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Enjoy that at all, swinging around and punching dudes.
Speaker 1: Yep, I actually think the first game is the strongest
overall because the head I think less slightly less of
that stuff. But like, I don't know, I just grew
up with that studio playing Ratchet and Clank. Up Your
Arsenal's going back and replaying a lot of those. I
think my ranking has changed over the years. I used
to say, Up Your Arsenal is my favorite. I still
love it. Great game, but I forget how segmented they
made it. They really wanted to almost like you're dropping
into these level as this paratrooper military style, like you're
helping the squad. It was cool, but like I do
think Going Commando was more of a like that traditional
action adventure style that they started off with with the
first game. But anyway, that's what I was playing more for,
like I said, desk research for day job, and then
I did intend on playing Taro Tech Legion on the
Steam deck, but once again I just ended up playing
megabonk that just melts time. I still think that's my
favorite playing game, or that is the most effective playing
game at just melting hours.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't you wouldn't actually know because you haven't played
the game, so you actually can't definitively say that I.
Speaker 1: Haven't played what Oh, I see what you're doing. Tech
play Legion Want.
Speaker 2: I'm saying the other one is the best, but it's
like a.
Speaker 1: Year old games I've played. It's my favorite game, but
also there's a fucking five hour flight. I don't always
want to play a brand new, fucking game. I just
want to play something I know is going to kill time.
Speaker 4: There is a type of game that will never leave
my Steam deck. I think Taro Tech is one of them. Now,
Slay the Spire two. I think you know vampires, Megabank.
Speaker 1: I missed that you played Slay thet Fire too. I
thought you were waiting for I.
Speaker 4: Was, but I can't remember. I talked about this on here,
but like it was Bonk that like in a bank
is way in the Slightest Fire, and she, you know,
I take her opinions about games very seriously, and so
she was like, Dan outside is some like placeholder art,
like this is basically a full game, and it's like.
Speaker 1: I feel like someone else already said that.
Speaker 4: But maybe I kind of just listened to interesting.
Speaker 1: Said that I guess. I don't want to make extra
work for Jake. That'd be funny if he just rolled
the clip where I said, this is really don't early
excess game? Don't Why don't they release it? Then I
got I don't know. I asked them. I didn't fucking
make it. I just like playing it. Question to you,
there's question.
Speaker 2: It's like a question to anyone.
Speaker 1: Was to say whose question it is or whether it exists.
It's early access and one point zero. Until you download
it and play it, you don't know. You can't prove
for sure.
Speaker 3: That you can't prove that it's not both.
Speaker 4: Even the fucking co op feels really good, like Bonk
and I played a round of it recently and it's like, man,
every time we've didn't co op like that actually works
really well too, Like how did.
Speaker 1: That ass slay this fire? Two?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How does that work? And co op? Do you just
have more enemies to take down your their synergy?
Speaker 4: They double the as far as I understand, and we've
only done the like two or three times, it does
I think double the HP of the enemies. But like
you can also choose like one of three multiplayer cards.
So this last run we did mine was like okay,
so I can play this card and it will grant
her too extra energy. So like it's a lot of
like asking because like she's got her own cards. I've
got my cards, and like some of them are like okay,
do you want me to do this which will inflict
vulnerable before you do this. So it's a lot of
like talking to each other on the couch basically of
like Okay, I'm gonna do this, then you hit them
with this, then I'm gonna give you the extra energy,
and then you can do this three thing. Like it's
pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Sounds red.
Speaker 4: I YEA love that game.
Speaker 1: I got all the current characters. But I don't know
if they're planning it adding it at one point oh,
or if that's just kind of the roster for the
time being. But yeah, really, I.
Speaker 4: Mean you should try it. It doesn't feel like early access,
like it feels like a one point Oh, Mike, you
should try it.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Good recommendation, Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Mary, thank you, uh really really thank you to you.
Do you? Uh? What are you?
Speaker 6: What are?
Speaker 1: Your favorite game has been on the Steam Machine. As
you've continued to play around with it.
Speaker 4: Oh man, So my current thing is now, like you know,
I did that video check that out on gihant Bums
YouTube of my first impressions. And now that, like my
first impressions are done, and now I'm trying to like
settle into like okay, how do I want to make
this my perfect game machine? And you know I love
retro stuff, and the Steam Deck has always been great
for a retro console, and the same shit applies here.
Words I can set up m you deck and all that,
but like I'm getting really in the nitty gritty this
time with like Steam Raw Manager and everything and creating
collections and all this stuff and like adding all these favorites.
So like, okay, if I wanted to just go to GameCube,
I can go here from the main Steam OS and
like here's my game Cube collection. But if I want
to go to my favorites, here's all of my favorites across.
Like here's all my retro stuff in one place. So
it'll immediately launch into a sixty four emulator. All the
controls just work and everything. Or it's like okay, well
I want Devil May Cry one, two, and three, so
instead of the PS two versions, I'll download the HD
collection off Steam and they all kind of go into
the same thing. So it's so fucking cool to be
able to go into like a favorites tab right from
the main menu, and it's like, here is all of
my favorite games ever in one place, and I'm just
scrolling through a grid of the box art, and like,
you know, there are those nights where it's you don't
have an active game, you're like really working on you
just like you're not ready to go to bed yet
or something. You just want to play something. It's so
cool to look at just like a curated like wow,
this is my entire gaming history and collection of my
favorite shit ever. And it's like maybe I'll do Mario three,
maybe I'll do Punch Up. Maybe I'll do some Mario
sixty four. Maybe I'll start you know this or Placeless
Slay the Spire, like new stuff, old stuff, all launchable
from the same very smart os and everything. Like I am.
I know, I've been a mark for the Steam Machine
since I got it. It is fucking awesome and it
really is everything I want as far as like this
is my all in one game box connected to my
TV and I'm setting it up exactly how I wanted
for new, old, and everything in between. It's it's a
joy and like.
Speaker 1: The curation itself, Like even if I don't end up
playing anything sometimes stuff like that, it's like, oh, I
could spend an hour, like yes, organizing all that. That's
the game, I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: It's like over here, I'm like charging four different retro
consoles behind me here because tomorrow we're shooting a Giant
Bomb video where we're gonna show Abby all the different
options and stuff like that. And like the amount of
time I've spent playing on those four consoles is probably
not as much as the time I've spent setting them
all up. The amount of time of looking looked at
rom lists and being like, okay, what is the perfect
collection of games to fit on a five hundred and
twelve gigabyte mikerorest card and like how do I set
this up perfectly? Oh, this one's a dual screen one,
so let's focus on three DS and DS Like it
is just such a fun to me hobby of like
having all these gaming devices and spending all that time,
you know, tweaking them and finicking with them. But it
it's great to be able to play them too, Like
I'll pack the AI and Thor on a trip or
whatever and then place them on the plane. Part of
the joy is just setting them up. But with the
Steam Machine, I think it is like, Okay, it's great
to set up, and also this is going to be
my main gaming device.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think anyone is arguing that the Steam
Machine isn't a great device. It's just wildly inaccessible to
the average person because of its price.
Speaker 2: And so I have a question for you.
Speaker 3: If you didn't have either the Steam Machine or the
Steam Deck, which one would you buy?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that really depends on things like
how often someone travels, how often someone likes to play
on the couch while something's on the TV. Like, I
think that really much depends on like how do you
like the player games? If you like to play on
the TV, Well, it depends like let's say, okay, for instance,
let's say you like playing on the TV, but you
mainly play mean to the hollower retro games. You know,
things like that. I would say, get a Steam Deck
and get a dock because you can do that and
you can also have the portability. You can kind of
do it like the switch. But if you're someone that
wants to be able to play Double seven, First Light
and also anything else, I would say get the steam Machine.
So I think that is a I don't think there's
a one size fits all on that. I think it
depends on how you like to play games.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's perfect, but I think the reality
is that people will have.
Speaker 2: To make that choice.
Speaker 4: Sure. Sure, And I think if someone explained, you know,
I think if I spent three minutes talking to anyone
about how they play games and stuff, I could say
this or that. I just don't think I can say
in general. This is no.
Speaker 2: I didn't even ask in general.
Speaker 1: I said what you would choose for myself?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Wait, so if I if I pick steam Machine, I
don't get to have a steam Deck.
Speaker 3: You have to pick one. You have one thousand dollars.
What would you spend it on?
Speaker 4: That's I think. With all the travel I do, it'd
be hard to not say steam deck.
Speaker 3: I would pick a steam Deck too. There you have it, guys,
I mean.
Speaker 4: I love them, no question.
Speaker 1: You guys don't know which the travel till I tell you,
so technically get both jokes on you.
Speaker 2: We don't give a ship, Which one would you pick?
Speaker 1: Steam deck? For sure, I haven't. I don't have any
experience with a Steam machine. It sounds like something I
would like to have in my household. But the Steam
deck is way more in line with most of the
games I play these days.
Speaker 4: I mean, it is powerful enough to play most modern games.
You have to take some major, you know, major sacrifices
with the performance. But yeah, I would say for myself,
what the amount of travel I do these Like? I
could say, like, oh, do steam machine at home and
switch to on planes and stuff, But the library switch
to is not the Steam decks, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys don't have a Steam issue, don't have
a switch to as well. I suppose this is like
for people who are like, this is a huge hobby
and this game, this hobby has always been expensive. Gaming
has always been expensive, but usually you have to pick.
That's where the wars between the xbox and PlayStation originated,
because you couldn't have both, which means if you bought,
you spent your precious money on Xbox, you were more
likely to be like Xbox games are better, PlayStation could
suck it.
Speaker 4: And that's where that tribalism comes from. And like I
kind of get it because I remember doing so much research, Like, dude,
do I get a PlayStation or a Saturn. I'm gonna
trade in all of my Genesis shit, I'm gonna trade
in my segacyy. I have to make the right decision.
And you become like, Okay, I'm going all in on PlayStation.
I'm a PlayStation guy now, and like you root for
PlayStation to win because that's reput like literally funds in it.
Speaker 3: I invested my money an Xbox just four years.
Speaker 2: I needed it to do well.
Speaker 4: I think console fan boys shit is exhausting and it's
been around since I was at fucking recess. But I
also kind of understand, like, no, I get it and
I've been there, Like you pick your horse and you
want that to be the one that wins. But like, also,
don't be a fucking weird dicket on the internet about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's got to be some kind of middle area,
is there?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 1: Mary, we played mecha Chameleon for the bonus episode that
I mentioned.
Speaker 4: I was also there, but you wouldn't know because I
was hiding too well.
Speaker 3: We found you and shot you in the back of
the head and shot you in your.
Speaker 1: If. Yeah, for those who don't know, it's a game
that's blowing up. It's like it's kind of I mean
again like shorthand Friends Slop, like kind of competitive hide
and seek where one person's the hunter with a shotgun.
Everybody else is like set loose in these mini sandboxes
as these stick figures, and you have to go hide
and then basically paint on the fly with like MS
paint level tools really quickly to disguise yourself and the
other person just trying to find you. Sometimes it's easier
than other times, but uh, once you get shot, you
become a hunter as well. So it's hide and seek
with very deceptively simple I would say, because you can
do some cool stuff with the paint, but it's not
like you're not It's not like fucking after effects. I
think M's paint's a better comparison. But yeah, it's been
blowing up. So Mary suggests we do a bonus episode,
Super Fun. If you have not if you're not a
video patron, go become one. That should be up sometime soonish.
But yeah, Mary, you're the one who recommended it.
Speaker 3: Everybody's talking about it. It's on Twitch. It's crazy it's
going crazy with streamers and the virality.
Speaker 1: The clips of it are so funny.
Speaker 3: Because it's really funny for a hunter to walk around
and see this little butt hiding, you know, against a
wall and being like, Ooh, I wonder who this is.
There's a really funny moment where Jake is hunting and
my ass is hiding in the trash and he's like,
do you have anything you want to say?
Speaker 6: Mary?
Speaker 3: And I was like, you can't see me and he
shoots me right in the butt. It's funny.
Speaker 1: It's a fun This is a.
Speaker 3: Fun multiplayer game that you probably haven't seen since. I
would say like this is starting to get onto like
the among us levels of everybody is talking about this
silly little game where you play hide and seek, and
it works for everyone.
Speaker 2: You can be a kid and play this.
Speaker 3: You can be extremely skilled with gaming and play this.
Speaker 2: And have a good time.
Speaker 3: Everybody can enjoy this silly game where you paint yourself
and pretend to be on the wall and hope that
no one shoots you.
Speaker 4: I think the thing for me is like when I
first heard about this, I was like I played like
prop hunt modes and like a lot of fbs have
done it and like that's never really done for me.
I've tried it, and it's like, Okay, I get why
this is funny or whatever. But like being able to
pose and paint yourself and try to kind of like
you know, to bias bluth yourself into a thing like
oh you can't see me, you know, Like there is
a really funny aspect of that of like quickly trying
to do a shitty ms paint of your body to
fit in. Like that is the the X factor that
makes this like way more fun to me.
Speaker 3: Get like sixty seconds, it's not enough time. A lot
of the times these are real chop shops. Are you
are splattering yourself with brown and being like I look
like wood and you absolutely do not.
Speaker 2: But the environment.
Speaker 4: Why are you laughing? Why do you laugh when you
said splatter yourself with brown?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't ever do that.
Speaker 4: Why are you laughing? Mike?
Speaker 1: It's a thing from earlier, the Shroudner's cat. Don't worry
about it. Move on.
Speaker 3: You can have a lot of fun with this type
of game of being. So you can also troll people
by whistling, which is your way of saying like I'm
nearby I'm in a room.
Speaker 1: It's very rude.
Speaker 3: Dan wouldn't whistle because he whistled.
Speaker 4: I whistled constantly in this thing. I have the footage
you do a whistle montage.
Speaker 1: And also at one point Dan looked up and saw
me on top of the suit of armor. I'm pretty sure,
So I like bowled and started sprinting around, and then
cat moused around this chair, and then I did the
pose You're just like so funny, like chalk outline of
a dead person at a murder scene. And I slid
under the chair and just waited.
Speaker 4: I was looking at you, and I wanted to take
a second to like say something cool before I shot you.
And all of a sudden, I see this little shiny
silver guy he's like running around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in the I was in the pose
where he's just like curl up in the feetle and
I was like, oh, it probably looks way too much
like an ass even though I did use it. I
upped the metallic slider all the way to look like
the suit of armor. It's pretty proud of it until.
Speaker 3: You when you crawl around, you look like that enemy
in Silent Hill in the that's crawling around.
Speaker 1: The cars and it's super scary.
Speaker 3: There's an element of that game that is kind of
creepy because you think you're looking at a bookshelf, but
there's actually someone hidden in the bookshelf looking at you.
It's not a scary game, but it could be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like and they're smart too, Like when they
make the levels, like one of them is there's a
bunch of like gingerbread men, like all stacked up and
like it's so easy to like I'm going to just
press myself against the gingerbread man and like painted this way.
Speaker 1: Super fun.
Speaker 2: Glad we had a good time.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's a silly, fun game,
and I'm glad that you guys were open to playing
it with me.
Speaker 1: So thank you for playing it with me and learning
a new game.
Speaker 3: With me this week.
Speaker 4: It was a blast. Yeah. Check it out on the Patreon.
Speaker 1: Everyone, I want to talk about emails all right. As always,
you can write into fire scapecast at gmail dot com
for questions, comments, concerns, questions we might read for this segment.
In this case, we have a correction of mine. I
do want to read because I definitely butchered this in
an recent episode I had mentioned how I was flabbergasted
to learn that Richard Harris, who played Dumbledore, he was
the leader of the Iram Patriot Games. He was the
priest in Count of Monte Cristo, was ed Harris's dad.
That is not correct. It was Jared Harris from Madman
Foundation Chernobyl. Yeah, which makes more sense because those two
are British. And thank you a good question, Eddie, Thank you, Eddie.
Ironic James, Eddie.
Speaker 4: I'm going to send in a correction for next week
about you thinking a cat would be there and out
there at the same time.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait for that. That'd be great.
Speaker 3: I can't believe Eddie Harris is a fan of the show.
Speaker 1: I know Eddie Harris. Eddie Harris just has daddy issues,
so he didn't want us to associate him with Richard anymore.
Speaker 3: It's fair.
Speaker 1: I'm married. You want to read this one from Darien? Sure?
Speaker 3: Hey, homies, it makes no sense that Dan likes shed
MoU cozy. Queen Mary is a huge Gears War fan.
Who even knows what's up with that Mark McCarty's guy.
As for me, I would do terrible things for a
Sekiro sequel. Despite mostly playing FPS and strategy games, you
peeps of any other games, movies, or activities you enjoy
that are out of character. Cheers Darien from a Toronto
That's a great question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've got a like I think most
people would assume I'm just like oh Diard bread of
their you know, like whatever, but like a lot of
my feel like as always looking at my letterbox here
my five stars, like stuff like poor things, you know,
I don't think people guess that, or like one of
my favorite bands ever being Florence in the Machine, you know,
like that type of that.
Speaker 1: Did surprise me, the Florence and the Machine thing.
Speaker 4: And like one of my like Mountain restmore brands of
all time is just artists of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah you've seen them?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw. I saw earlier this year. It was
incredible interesting also seeing Bob Dylan on Monday. Do not
have high expectations for his energy.
Speaker 1: About that. He's not going to be great, He's.
Speaker 4: Going to be a very old man.
Speaker 1: But no Florence.
Speaker 4: Like, I think I like a lot of like artsy
quote unquote movies that people would not expect me to like,
whether or not I understand what they're trying to say,
is maybe a whole different thing. But yeah, I am,
like I am a film dork still. I'm still kind
of that like high school film dork, you know if we're.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say this question is tough. I
feel like all of us are into very different things
that don't really fit into a neat bucket. Yeah, symbolism,
but like if someone were just to listen to this
podcast and like not know me at all outside of that,
I think they might be surprised that I'm not gonna
like look down on like shotgunning a butt light if
I need to, Like.
Speaker 4: That is how I describe. I get a lot of
questions about you, Mike, and yeah, that is exactly what
I go to. It's like, yeah, yeah, he is the
wine guy he portrays himself as, but like he also will.
Speaker 1: Make myself as I'm actually like, you are into it,
but I'm not, Like I'm not going to fucking die
bars saying like, oh, what kind of reload do you have?
Like exactly, I will hang with the best of at
in the Like some of my favorite bars in New
York still are the dives that have not changed in.
Speaker 4: Fifty years and I always say that. I was like, yes,
he is that wine guy through and through, but like
he is never once no matter what bullshit thing I'm
eating or drinking or whatever, but like turned his nose
up at it, and so like, you're totally right with that.
Speaker 1: Also, who's asking you about me? Don't worry about it now,
I'm curious. Maybe that's not a character. I'm really what's
the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 6: Vain?
Speaker 1: I want to know he's asking about me? Yea, yeah,
you guys know that.
Speaker 4: What everyone's like, what's the deal with Mike my heart?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who is that wine guy?
Speaker 1: Outside of that, I probably got other stuff. But like again,
I think my my interests are already very but again
it's a lot of like people know, I love fucking
mcgruber Wet Hot American Summer. These literally rank in my
top ten movies of all time, even though I'm also
pretty interested in the newest do CG in Italy and
how those loss came about. What's yours?
Speaker 3: I love that you you have, like I think we
all have this like difference in in this juxtaposition of
us were were like I didn't expect to like that.
I I really famously and historically just do not like
turn based RPGs, no matter what anyone says to me, Yeah, uh,
they're not appeeling to me.
Speaker 2: And especially when someone goes.
Speaker 3: But the but the characters, but the story, and I'm
like on board, Like even you saying that to me,
it's like, it doesn't it does not get me. I
was pleasantly surprised with Claire Obscure Expedition thirty three. I
think it is phenomenal. It is the genre bender where
I was like, oh, I think I get it. Oh
this is what you guys are talking about. This is
a really phenomenally good game. It is worth playing, even
if you wouldn't historically play this type of game like
I would usually I play these and quit. I absolutely
just quit them when I'm like whatever, I don't want
to hear all this dialogue. I liked the dialogue in
this game, and I was listening to listen to them
prattle on about their problems and the issues because it's
kind of fascinating. They were just like killing people based
on their age. It felt like a really good movie.
So anyway, that's that's a win for me that I
thought was surprising. And then I love horror and just
scary movies in general. And I usually anytime I have
a free moment, I will watch a horror movie.
Speaker 1: Or like a thriller.
Speaker 3: It's very rare that I will watch a drama that
is long and exhausting. My life is long and exhausting.
I don't want to watch a two and a half
hour movie that stresses me out or is sad. But
I think that I watched a movie last year that
was so life altering that it is in my top
five movies of all time. I think it is phenomenal.
I will yell at anyone they have to watch it.
It's Train Dreams. Oh yeah, and that is a phenomenal drama.
Maybe not meant not coming of age, but it's like
it's just about a person going through life in a
really long and exhausting way. It's so I don't know
what that word it is. Tell me what that word is.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just like a what you just described. It's
like a journey. It's not like a coming of age thing.
It's just like several several different episodes in someone's life
or this particular journey that is kind of this story compiled.
The book is really.
Speaker 3: Good it's ecoresk. I. When I watch this, I was like,
here comes a big, long, boobless two hour drama, and.
Speaker 1: I what, you only watch boob full movies. It's gotta
be full of them.
Speaker 3: And I watched this full of tears and I was like,
that movie is gonna that changed my life to this day.
Sometimes I will it's only been a year, but like,
I've really really really love this movie, you guys, and
I will be walking around doing it having a great day,
and I'll say, is this my Train Dreams? Which you
would only get if you have seen that movie. But
it's it's in my brain now. I think about it
all the time, and I think it's you wouldn't expect
with my movie history that I would think so positively
about this film. So I think that's a good one
for me and and a great excuse for me to
tell everyone to watch Train Dreams because my god.
Speaker 1: It's so good. Netflicks correct get the tissues I have.
Speaker 2: I don't remember how I watched it originally.
Speaker 3: I think I like stumbled upon it and was just
like I'm not gonna like this.
Speaker 1: I fucking loved it. Yeah, it's really good. It's kind
of cool.
Speaker 3: To be surprised. Isn't it like to find a genre
of something and.
Speaker 1: Being rid of makes sense that we liked it, But I'm.
Speaker 4: It's good. We're like two episodes in, but like, it's
it's very good.
Speaker 3: It builds a scary comedy is my favorite genre of film.
Slither is one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 3: I love see Okay, if you like Slither, this is
this is Slither because it's it's funny. The characters are
so funny, and then something fucking scary will happen and
you'll be like, am I supposed to laugh or not?
I'm like so stressed out, dude.
Speaker 2: Every episode gets so good.
Speaker 3: But there's a very specific episode about a lady who's
trying to throw a party that I cannot wait for
you to watch. I cannot wait. It's so fucking good.
I think it might be one of the best episodes
of a show.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: It's perfect.
Speaker 4: And we're currently we're doing a lot right now where
Sunday's are Sopranos, and then House the Dragon, and we're
also here and there where we can doing a widow's bay.
You are busy, Yeah, best single episodes of Mike I
think we're two away from Pine Barans.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'm trying to correct.
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong. Then cousin Tony is.
Speaker 4: So there's a he got a club for Adriana and
Tony is with the Mercedes dealer Gloria. Yes, gotcha. Everything's
very well. Ralphie is a character is very interesting to me.
I love.
Speaker 1: You know where he's from. Now he's famous. He's famously
the second most famous person from Hoboken. Yeah, after one
Frank Sinatra. Oh okay, yeah, Joey Pants.
Speaker 4: Joey Pants. He's so fucking good in that. Like he's
just such a weird character, just seems like kind of
a dope, but he's also like terrifying and violent and but.
Speaker 1: Also very good. Like he makes a lot of money
for everybody, so they kill him.
Speaker 4: Hey he's a good earner. He's a good earner. Yeah,
he's a good Yeah. It's really the best show ever.
And like I'm sorry, I'm not gonna go into all thing,
but like Gandelphiini, I'm watching him and I'm like, this
is like one of the all time great performances. Like
this is amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an episode. There's another episode. I think the
only episode I like, so Pine Barons is great. It's
fucking amazing, It's hilarious. But like it is. We talked
about this couple episodes ago. It's more of a bottle episode.
There are several others in the show, but I still
think I'm not the only person to say this. It's
not an unpopular opinion, but white Caps, when you to
White Caps, is some of the most craziest good acting
I've seen on TV in movies ever. Like I've never
seen like a few people like literally like they just
become this character. I don't know how they It seems
impossible to me, but White Caps is hands down probably
my favorite episode of TV after the Suitcase in mad Men.
Speaker 4: It is something to be not even halfway. I think
I'm approaching the halfway mark of the show and already
knowing that this is my favorite show of all time.
Jesus Christ, Like this is hitting in every possible way
for me.
Speaker 1: It's I when during COVID, I think like it started
to blow up and like a lot of like I
don't know if it was gen Z, but they were
saying like a lot of a newer, younger generation was
starting to watch it and realize that a lot of
the storytelling resonated with them in terms of like the
broader themes, which whether it's like, you know, the economic
issues they're talking about, but also just I don't know,
The Sopranos was a long at a time when the
whole show is very much they're trying to take things
in their own hands rather than going to the police
and the using the system that's worked against them. So
I think a lot of people appreciate that. But it's
also just fucking hilarious.
Speaker 4: It's so fucking funny, and like I'm very intrigued to see,
like I think nine to eleven in real life is
about to happen, like at the exact halfway point, and
it's like, how is the show going to deal with that?
And uh, I just it's just what a fascinating part
of TV history. It's it's the absolute best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, text me and you're done
with Pine bearns me and you're about to watch it,
so I so I can just know that you're experiencing it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, it's gonna be That's what. While we've been
recording this, By the way, Jesse Vittelli has been watching
Rocky for the first time, so like the first he's
never seen Rocky. I think he's one of those those
kids that thinks movies are mid and I think I've
I've been given him the.
Speaker 1: Hard like sell the entire media form of movie.
Speaker 4: I believe, So I believe that's just that's Mike. Mike
Manatti definitely says movies are not great.
Speaker 2: That's kind of like someone saying colors aren't that great.
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, And Manati's just a weirdo in
a lot of ways. But you know, Buttelli seems like
a pretty normalish guy. But then he says something about
movies or Rocky or something like, oh no, you got
to you gotta watch this crazy. I think he liked it.
I got some DMS with the mirror. I think he's
enjoying it, so I'm trying to get him to keep going.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, if he doesn't enjoy it, then I
don't like him anymore. You can do this one. I'll
read this one from Tom or no, Dan, you want
to read this one from Todd from Australia.
Speaker 4: Todd says, Hey, fieries, what's the best chip here in Australia?
The most popular brand of chip is Smith's. I'm partial
to their barbecue flavor or their cheese and onion flavor.
Also love the tie sweet chili flavor of Dorito's. What's yours? Ps?
Mary missed a golden opportunity on her double O seven
subheadings how about the spy who shoved me? Regard as
Todd from Australia. Good good that my new one is.
I went camping with Ben Hansen and Leo Vader last
week and Leo Vader, I don't know if this I've
never heard of this before. If you've heard of it,
I think it's hers h E R R S.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: Is that a regional thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like New England and like Quebec. They're really big
up in Canada.
Speaker 4: Okay, guys, this is like like puff so like I
you know, like Cheetohs have like the puffs and like
the crunchies and I've always been a crunchy man. Uh,
never been a big puff guy. And uh but Leo
brought these jalapeno popper hers and it's like I didn't
know you could put that much flavor onto a single
puff and I inhaled these fucking things. He told me
there's hot honey, there's all sorts of In fact, I need.
Speaker 1: To order it they make that's like the brand, so
they make potato chips as well. To minor standing.
Speaker 4: It seems like a world that I am unfamiliar to
that I really need to dive into because those jalapeno popper.
Speaker 3: Ones new uncharted territory for you. You But is the
question not like your go.
Speaker 1: To or like, no, what's the best chip?
Speaker 4: Correct it?
Speaker 2: Would you really put yeah?
Speaker 3: Would you really put it in best territory?
Speaker 4: Or it's too early? It's too early, it's to.
Speaker 1: That level you gotta watch pine bars while you eat hers.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Cool ranch is very, very hard to beat. I don't
nothing comes to mind. My second place personal would probably
be I really like Garden salsa son chips.
Speaker 4: Those are great.
Speaker 1: I love French onion, but I like garden salsa. They've
Garden salsa has ousted. French onion is my favorite son chip.
Speaker 3: I don't think that garden salsa is my favorite sonship.
That's because it's got a little bit more saltiness to it.
Speaker 2: I don't always want cream in my chip.
Speaker 1: Want yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever told anyone this on
a podcast. I probably have at some point, but sun Chips,
I don't think about this often. But when I was
a kid, we'll say, like fifth grade, I think harvest
cheddar sonships. I really liked a lot, and I ate
a bunch of them on like a cub scouts the
thing like I canmera was a camping thing or what uh?
And then I realized afterwards. I would take my thumb
and I would press it hard against the roof of
my mouth. I got ah, and I would press, and
I felt like the longer I did it, the more effective.
This was that if I removed my thumb, I could
taste harvest cheddar sonships. And so for many years I
would just like randomly look I shoved my thumb into
my mouth and press against the roof and think I
could like replicate harvest cheddar sonships.
Speaker 2: Probably just making your mouth bleed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know if any part of this has any
valid are you Are.
Speaker 1: You eating harvest cheddar sonships earlier that day and I
was still on your side?
Speaker 4: I think probably probably the first time I did it, Yes,
which that kind of tails into a thing. What I'm
holding right here, like I'm thinking about it, like the
power of the human brain here is very or maybe
mine is very strynging and convincing myself of things. I'm
holding a Bigfoot slammer. It's a pog slammer. I remember,
They're yes, I remember this being the best smell ever,
and the underside it was this underside rubber pink thing
being the best smell I'd ever smelled in my life.
I'm smelling it right now, and I've talked about it
them podcasts and stuff like that, and somebody with some
giant bomb fan found it and they're like, oh, it's
the big Foot Slammer. And so I bought this on eBay.
This arrived a few days ago, and I remember thinking like,
oh my god, I haven't smelled this smell in like
thirty years. This is going to be crazy. It's going
to activate my brain in a crazy way. And I
smell it. I'm like, that's right, that's the smell. And
then I gave it to Bank because I've talked about
this to Bank been like oh, it's the best smell ever.
And I gave it to her and she smelled it
and she's like this just smells like a thing that's
been in like a chainsmoker's house. And then I smelled
it again and I was like, oh, right, it does.
But I think in my brain because I wanted it
to smell like that thing from when I was eight,
I think I actually convinced myself that like, that's the thing.
But then I gave it to a neutral party and
she was like, this just smells like cigarettes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, smells crazy.
Speaker 3: Fucking Paul Reiker in your childhood.
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, he.
Speaker 4: Didn't start smoking, so that doesn't even make sense, but yeah,
smell is crazy. Yeah, But I told myself this is like,
that's the smell, and she's like, no, that's just cigarettes,
and I was like, oh, that's fucked up, ship, And.
Speaker 1: Now you can unsmell the cigarettes.
Speaker 4: I still my brain still tells me that's like the
fruity fune rubber things.
Speaker 1: You can actually make it go the other direction.
Speaker 4: I do a lot. I do it a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I told that story before, how people saw me doing
that during Catholic Mass, and they had like asked my
parents if I was okay, yep, yep, yeah.
Speaker 3: I'd like to offer to one that you should have said,
and one that no one will say but deserve to mention.
The one that everyone knows is flaming Hot Cheetos, which
is the mecca of snack and my go to.
Speaker 1: If I were.
Speaker 3: To choose a snack when I'm going over to Dan's
house to watch a movie in your basement, I would
pick flaming Hot Cheetos, hot flavorful crunch, not puff crunch.
I'm on the same train, but I like that hot.
I like a little bit of spice.
Speaker 4: It's kind of a lot, though, Like you can't like
I want something, I can eat a whole bag up.
Speaker 3: Well, not if your little bitch like you have to
be able to handle spice.
Speaker 4: I love spice. I love even like have you done
like the one tip challenge stuff or whatever? Have you
done like the winteripchalleng stuff you do like a spice.
Speaker 3: Chicken wing challenge or something?
Speaker 2: Or yeah, like see if you can actually.
Speaker 1: Like, no, I've done those hot wings.
Speaker 3: I don't think I can do super hot stuff. But
I could eat a bag of flaming Hot Cheetos all
day and I don't feel a thing.
Speaker 4: I like cool rane because it's just like I could
eat an entire bag of that, and it's just like
I agree, smooth babies.
Speaker 3: I agree, it won't hurt anyone. Cool ranch is for
the common man. No one gets hurt by cool ranch.
Everybody likes cool ranch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the one that no one else would mention? Okay?
Speaker 3: When I lived in Australia, I found a snack that's
very popular there that I don't think regular.
Speaker 1: People know of. They're called shapes. They are they're.
Speaker 3: They're like a cracker that are usually in a shape.
My favorite is chicken crippy chicken crippy.
Speaker 1: That's a shape chicken and crippy chicken crippy.
Speaker 3: Chicken crimpies are essentially a butter cracker that tastes like
chicken bullion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, chicken and a biscuit is like a similar thing here.
I don't if they still make those, but yeah.
Speaker 3: But the disc shape, the divots in it, Yep, they
melt in your mouth, but there is a there is
a cracker to them, right, so there's a little bit
of a crunch. They taste like chicken. They're called chicken crimpy.
If you were to like spend extra money and be like,
I want to know, I vouch for you to buy
chicken Crimpy and pay the fee to get these into
your household.
Speaker 1: They're good.
Speaker 4: Somebody send me like a variety pack thing like during
the pandemic for me to try and stream and it
was like, oh my god, I'm a shapes guy. Now,
like these are you got cheese and bacon, You got
the vegemite and cheese, you got the barbecue.
Speaker 3: It's the one. There's a lot of different shapes that
are good, and I think most shapes are good. Although
I don't like barbecues. I don't like sweet chips. I'm
not a fan of like sugar chips. I want my
I want my chips salty.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Chicken Crimpy is very good, and it is it is
more people should know about the magic of shapes.
Speaker 4: I like that so funny for you see, I love
that you're near and the.
Speaker 3: Flavor, specifically the flavor chicken crimpy is absurd.
Speaker 4: They sent me all like a bunch of flavors. It
was like, I love all of these. I love that
they're just different shapes and they like like I love
that doritos just have like the dust and I the
hunt for the ones with the most like visible dust
on it and shape seems so like the same. It's like,
oh yeah, you can see the flavor we're gonna like
you can.
Speaker 3: Find a freak. You can find a freak in a
box of shapes that has way too much dust on it.
It's very fun.
Speaker 4: I want them, the Chip company, the chimp, the Chip
industrial complex, to make a Oops all Berries. I want
there to be like, you know, Oops all berries, like
the game, like oh, there's an accent of the factory
and they're all this or whatever. I want chips to
do that where it's like we fucked them all up.
They're all way too much.
Speaker 3: All the all the shapes are too dust dusted shapes, Oops,
all dusted.
Speaker 4: Yes, we're gonna suck up all your dopamine receptors. You're
never going to be the same person after your people
dusted shape the marketing tule shapes.
Speaker 3: Let me run your marketing. Who owns shapes? Are not?
Speaker 1: Are not?
Speaker 3: Let give me the keys to the castle. Double dusted
would go crazy.
Speaker 4: Give me the dust like Pixies stick style, and let
me just go nuts to them. Yeah yeah, well, I've
never sorted anything. I'm in checking.
Speaker 1: Dust my last chip. I have not had them in
a while. Because I used to eat a lot of
them and they're I'm curious if I think this is
a chip, but it stretches the definition. The Free Doo's
Barbecue flavor twists.
Speaker 4: Oh they're great, They're great.
Speaker 1: Honey, yeah, honey, barbecue were really fucking good. I think
those are my number three spot. I haven't had those
in a while though.
Speaker 4: They're great.
Speaker 1: Barby Barbecue pop chip or no sour cream and Onion
pop chips onions good. Yeah, yeah again, those ones you
get so that are more like cheetah puff fla texture.
You get others that are like real crispy, like they
spent too much time being baked.
Speaker 4: I do think that George Washington on the Mount Rushmore
is cool ranch though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no argument there.
Speaker 3: I have friends that always prefer nacho cheese and they're
always like, I can't believe that you're a cool ranch person,
And I'm like me and all of America, bitch like
you are in the minority. It's crazy for someone to
look me in the eye and say that nacho cheese
is the preferred one. Great, great, I'm pulling our audience.
Speaker 4: Sweet Chili, that's the newcomer that is really good. I'll
take a sweet chili over nacho cheese.
Speaker 1: Yes, take it or leave it, but cool ranch like
that blue bag I see in the distance and like I'm.
Speaker 7: Gonna fuck you up.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you Todd from Australia. He's gonna appreciate that
you called out an Australian snack chicken. Creepy chickens. I've
never had them. That's our episode, episode one thirty six
fire Escape. You can right into the email Firescape Past
at gmail dot com.
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you have going on?
Speaker 4: Join bomb? Check it out some stuff the Steam Machine
video on men Max. I haven't seen the video yet,
but yeah, Me Hansen and Leo Camping should be up
on men Max by the time you watch this. But yeah, reviews.
We got reviews for Rhythm Heaven, a bunch of other
stuff going on, so check out Giant Bomb. Jeff Grubb
is about to start his blight, which should be a blast.
Speaker 1: What is he playing?
Speaker 4: Say it? Maybe the time this goes up, it might
be about to go. It's gonna be all say it's
gonna be He's had to come up and coming for
a while because me and Minati have really gone through
it and Grub has not been blighted since last August.
So I picked a pretty bad one for Grub to
have to go through.
Speaker 3: There's no way to like get blighted multiple times in
a row by doing a bad job.
Speaker 1: It's just who's had the.
Speaker 4: If you quit. But like we are all very steadfast
and like we don't ever want anyone to quit a
light game. So the closest ever is probably me with
Space as the last one. But like I was, like,
I can't do it. I have to beat this game.
It is one of the worst experiences in my life.
That's all on the YouTube.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: Game looks terrible, Mary, What you have going on before
the next episode?
Speaker 3: Usually it's streaming on Twitch every Monday. Uh, that's where
I played some Dave the Diver and it's cool to
like test it out there live before I put more
thought to it, and then Instagram for my daily dose
of whatever the fuck I'm up to. In a story,
I posted the cops pulling us over, so you can
check that out.
Speaker 4: Macron's gonna get you.
Speaker 3: Macron can suck my French duck. I can't believe he
stopped me from going to that vista.
Speaker 1: I think Amanda sent me something that reminded me of you. Mary. Uh,
it was just I think it was just a fucking
meme or an Instagram post that set a meta ray
ray bands metaglasses are the cyber truck of the face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not attractive and they are invasive, and I think, like,
for the record, wait, I post them a lot because
it is so convenient. I mean, here's the thing, Like
people can say, maybe this is controversial. People can say like, oh,
they're so invasive and they're so annoying. It's extremely dangerous
to ride a bike and pull out your phone and
be like, I'm riding on this beautiful spot. Being able
to tap my glasses and record the fact that I'm
riding my bike or riding my scooter or kayaking.
Speaker 1: Is so fucking cool.
Speaker 3: And they absolutely are worth it if you are using
them for go pro reasons, and I will stand by that.
I don't care how controversial it is. They are better
than a GoPro and they give you the perspective of
a person doing some kind of athletic feet or doing something.
Speaker 1: Athletic fee extremely exciting stuff. Every time you post long meta.
Speaker 3: Rocking your dog while you are on your meta, why
do you watch it all?
Speaker 1: You're right, I.
Speaker 3: Love my biggest My biggest haters watch all of my
meta content and then they're like, aren't these the like
perv glasses?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yes, you know what else, don't be.
Speaker 3: A pervert, don't use this product and and scoop some
babes and look up their booby skirts.
Speaker 2: Don't do it.
Speaker 1: It sucks to be a pert. I've been doing that.
Speaker 3: I use these things to like share povs of my life,
and I try my damnedest not to shove them in
the face of innocence that don't want to be on camera,
so I would be a good person.
Speaker 4: You're weirdly impervious, though. I feel like if I posted
one picture from those we would lose half of Giant
Bombs premium subscribers immediately.
Speaker 3: I love them. Did you use the word impervious to
say I'm not pervy?
Speaker 4: Nono impervious.
Speaker 3: I thought you meant likes to say, listen, you're pervious.
You're not using them in a pervy way at all.
That is very sweet. I don't think that's what impervious.
Speaker 4: I mean, it seems like it should, though it does.
Speaker 3: I could see the train of thought because I let it.
I was like this, sure, yes, thank you for defending me.
I think you can use them in wonderful ways. Please
do not use them to to record people who don't
want to be recorded, or random people living their goddamn lives.
Speaker 1: Leave people alone to.
Speaker 3: Be impervious if you can. I did use them to
record the police. I turned it on immediately.
Speaker 4: I think people will be in at that part. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's like who's watching the watchers.
Speaker 3: My meta glasses. He was, oh, you guys, one last one.
As we were leading, like getting everything ready to go,
he was like bringing the kayaks and tying them down,
and he was like, I gotta make sure to tie
these to the truck this time.
Speaker 1: And I was like, excuse me, and he goes, tie
me to the truck instead.
Speaker 3: Now a little bit. He was pretty cute, but like,
that's none of my business. We were professional and he
said he said, well, yesterday, he said, yesterday they fell
off the truck on the highway. Luckily no one was harmed,
but I did stop the highway traffic for two hours.
He goes, it made the local news and I said,
oh my god, like, did you tie them?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: And then they just fell off because it was bumpy
and stuff. It was probably just you know, a you know,
freak accident.
Speaker 2: He goes, oh no.
Speaker 3: I forgot to tie them and just drove away and
he could have killed someone. But I really appreciated his
honesty to look me in the eye and go, oh no,
I just forgot to tie them.
Speaker 1: I was just negligent, have a.
Speaker 3: Good day, wonderful to kayak with you. And I walked
away from that experience and I said, I like him.
He didn't lie to me at all. He told me everything.
Speaker 1: Thank you kayak man, Thank you Tod, thank you Darian,
thank you Eddie Harris, who all wrote in for the show.
Speaker 4: We should just bring in the kayak manat.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has a computer he fell.
Speaker 3: This seemed like the kind of guy that was like
really into vistas and like knew a lot about the
ocean and did not know a lot about life.
Speaker 4: Probably healthier than anyone we know.
Speaker 3: He seemed like he was in great physical condition, and
respectfully he was in superb condition.
Speaker 1: Probably a massive hog as well, just saying check check
the metaglass pervy view. Yeah, so my glass is were,
oh god.
Speaker 3: He was like he would like give me a bottle
of water and I was like, thank you sir, and
drank it. And then he did a backflip off the
boat and I was like, what a nice boy did
I tried not to observe.
Speaker 1: How do you backflip out of a kayak? When that
topic crazy?
Speaker 3: He had the crazy stuff he was just this. He
was just a super strong, twenty five year old kayak guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you say to that? And yeah,
he was very very nice.
Speaker 3: I said, I said, yes, you can steer this kayak
for me. I'll pretend to. And he said, you're doing
a great job. And I said, I know.
Speaker 1: I love Mary's confidence really comes out at the bow
of kayaks. Oh my second sake, I have confidence to spare.
That's not check out, that's not Yeah, to be clear,
that's not two sakes. I'm pretty sure there's two in
each of those.
Speaker 3: All right, who's to say this is no one knows
how much sake is in here. You have to ask,
and then you know, it's like no one really knows
how much sake is in the sok.
Speaker 1: Keep sipping your sake with your pervey glasses. We're I'm
gonna close out the episode. We'll be back in a
couple of weeks. Thanks everybody for joining. We'll talk to
you then.
Speaker 7: Bye.
Speaker 6: H h yah yah yah