Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Astrology with Alice. I'm
here with my good friend Tara Marzuki. She is a modernistic,
intuitive energy healer and also a past life regressionist. So
we're going to get into a lot in this episode.
Speaker 2: So much to cover, Thank you, Alice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so before we get started, what is for everyone listening,
what is your sun moon and rising?
Speaker 2: My son is Libra the libergirl Virgo moon and then
Aquarius rising, So I think that's my love of all
things kind of mystical and astrology.
Speaker 1: And you've got a lot of air in your chart.
Speaker 2: Yes, generate communicator and big sort of yeah, that energy talking,
which is perfect.
Speaker 1: Also, I ask people what their chart ruler is because
you're not like super well versus astrology. I just wanted
to give that you have Saturn in Aquarius, so in
your first house in Soudern rules.
Speaker 2: Chart, which is is that identity stuff right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: I also feel like that's why you're a natural, like
sharing about your life and things like that.
Speaker 2: That's a text overshare.
Speaker 1: So before we fully get into I just want to
talk about like how we met each other. So we
got connected in like twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I mean, it was definitely at least
five years ago. I was thinking about this this morning,
this morning, and I was, yeah, somewhere around there online
we kind.
Speaker 1: Of it was on Instagram at first I found you.
I think, yeah, I was thinking back and I think
I posted about meeting my husband for the first time,
and you were doing your like the love stories type thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I was like in my romanticism era,
the romance era, and I was kind of, you know,
I was really interested. That must to be how I
found you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you reposted like me talking about I don't
even know why I was talking about this on Instagram,
but like how I had a boyfriend all coming, Yeah,
so long ago. So then we got connected and then
we ended up meeting up in person, and then fast
forward like two and a half years. You gave me
a past life regression? Is that how you call it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Pretty much. The there's like lots of different techniques and
different levels of hypnosis that you can do, but the
one that I do is called QHHT or quantum Healing
Hypnosis techniques, so it deals with a portion of it
is involves past life regression.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so I we'll get into that later, like
the whole session you did for me and everything you
do there. But that was a super cool experience.
Speaker 2: I loved your session. It was one of the more
unique ones. It's always one of the ones I remember, and.
Speaker 1: People always want to know about that type of stuff,
like there's an obsession with past lives. But it was
interesting because in our session, I only found out about
my future life.
Speaker 2: Which happens a lot, but usually it's repressed memories, so
it's past lives or pressed memories, depending on what the
how yourself wants to show people. But yeah, I think
for you it was I mean, we get do you
want to get into it now or get into it later.
Speaker 1: Let's I want to remind and talk about how you
even got into like a spiritual type career. So you
started out, like was your first job out of college
as a lifestyle content creator or did you pivot into
that a few years after?
Speaker 2: It was a mix of both. I graduated and then
there was a program for Irish people that get let
us come to America for a year to pursue whatever
we studied for a year, so I did fashion. So
I've always had an interest in fashion. I wanted to
be a fashion designer, but I was starting to get
to my end of my teather with it. I was
really trying to find my place and I had tried
everything I'd done every internship over the years, and I
was still not sort of getting it. You know. I'd
kind of get bored after a certain period once I
stopped learning. And for me, I know, it's very important
that I'm stimulated as that is possible. But yeah, I
came here to do fashion. I worked for a high
end designer and I kind of continued my content stuff
that I had started in Ireland. So I definitely wasn't
making money off of it when I first got here.
It took a good year before I could make take
the jump, but I was doing kind of some side
hustle work as a photographer, so you know, I just
I did the whole New York first year, second year
hustle thing until I sort of settled and just became
a kind of a potographer slash content creator.
Speaker 1: What year did you move from Ireland to New York.
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna ask because I wanted to ask
that because you're an Aquarius rising, like the eclipses are
returning to Aquarius and Leo this year and to the
next and back then we had a clips to start
up in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's oh, I just got goosebumps when you said
that it's ten years, like it would would have moved
her ten years agoing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on a trick now and it's similar to
where the eclipses were a positioned. I know you're not
living here now, but it's interesting, like how you had
that change life change also, I think it was a
Virgo eclipse like on your Virgo moon, so changeing home.
So you have been posting online for like over a
decade now, is YouTube like was that did that start
out as your main platform?
Speaker 2: Yes? I started YouTube and I was eighteen years old,
kind of just after the first wave of like female
makeup gurus. So I feel like I was a second wave.
I just never stopped, you know. I always just find
it a fun outlet and just to connect with people.
And I think, you know, I don't know if that's
in my chart to think it is in some ways,
but I just think connecting with people and like sharing
my experience is always been something that's kind of spurred
me on in life and a way I connect people.
You know, I think people see themselves in me, or
they walk a journey alongside me, or they find some
parts of it invigorating or inspiring.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's definitely an Aquarius Rising thing, like wanting
to bring people together, but almost like I feel like
Aquarius does it almost at a distance, or it's like
you don't need too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not too much, not too full.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, it's like, okay, memory eave an online
relationship that's good for me.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: How did you find your niche with content creation. Did
you just start posting like anything about your life or
were you very like deliberate, like I want to just
post about this first.
Speaker 2: I think makeup was one of my fashion makeup or
one of my first loves. I really threw myself into that,
and then I think kind of my relationship with those things,
it's always there. I always had like a passion for
those things, but they kind of became just less important
over the years and it became more of a lifestyle thing.
And then obviously moving to New York at that time
for Irish people, that was like a real cool thing
to do, and people are really interested in that journey. So,
you know, I was one of a few other creators
really documenting that experience, and just I think as well,
you know, when you're from a small town and all
of these places, you know, going across the Atlantic and
moving to New York, it's it's an exciting journey to watch.
So yeah, people were into it, and I kind of
still do the same thing now. It's just, you know,
whatever sort of journey life is taking me on, I'm
just sort of taking people with me so they don't
feel so alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. How when did you start to
notice like your audience grow a bit more and like
you picked up momentum.
Speaker 2: There, Probably while I was in New York. I think
with the identity thing that you mentioned in my chart,
I think I was really struggling with that growing up,
just being a mixed race kid in a place where
there was no one that was really looking like me.
So I didn't know what I was. I didn't know
I didn't know any Asian people, I didn't have any
Asian family. And then but then I also was kind
of being cast out in certain ways, you know, through
bullying as a child, So it was just kind of
like a funny one. I just wanted to blend in.
I really wanted to blend in all the time, Like
even if one piece of clothing made me stand out,
it would make me like anxious. So I think my
whole path up to the point of getting to New
York was fumbling around with my identity. And then New
York really gave me the permission step to be like, Okay,
who do you want to be? And that's so anonymous.
I don't need to know anyone. I can wear what
I want, to say what I want whatever, without sort
of the feeling of being at home, which I think
a lot of people resonate with the hometown kind of
thing and being shyer and just you know, not feeling
like you can express yourself maybe fully. So yeah, I
feel like a lot of my New York journey was
just like finding out who am I like? Who what
am I about?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And that again it goes back to the eclipses
and your rising side. It's like figuring out different sides
of your identity. Absolutely, I love that. So we got connected,
Like I said in twenty twenty one, that was when
we were both like at the start of our Saturn
returns because we both have Saturn and Aquarius. Yeah, so
you've been doing fashion and then your own and like
your own content creator stuff up until that point. Did
you start to feel at your Saturn return like twenty
twenty one, twenty twenty two, like, is there something more
for me? Do I feel a bit stuck here? I
don't know how feelings came up.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think I know I had the classic Saturn
return experience. Just everything I thought that I sort of
knew was just not the case. You know, I left
a started leaving. I suppose a like a ten year
relationship that I had since I was like eighteen, and
you know, I was kind of we're doing long distance
and he came here and it was just the classics
sort of you know, take the things away that are
not serving you any longer. But I'm one of those people.
I can be sort of like turn a blind eye
to the signs when I don't want to see them.
I'm very intuitive and I'm much more receptive now. But
I think then I didn't trust my intuition and I wasn't.
I just I don't know itays bringing my head in
the sand. So the universe and the timing of everything
and the Saturn return, it really left, as it does,
sort of no room for going forward with things that
you can't carry forward. So I just had the classic
sort of you know, unexpected discoveries with someone who thought
you were really safe with. And then from there then
I really started kind of like returning to even more
sides of myself that I forgot I lost, you know,
like the parts of you that you would have enjoyed
as a child and a teenager. You know. I completely
rediscovered music and going out dancing and all of these
things that are really important for my spirit but that
I just had completely gotten lost in a relationship with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when did the spirituality the interest in that arise
was that during a Saturday return.
Speaker 2: Before or after, it wasn't so much super during is
maybe towards the end, I would say, maybe, Like I actually, yeah,
I think I was maybe like twenty seven twenty eight,
during the sort of like peak of those like COVID
kind of time. Yeah, so I was definitely I remember
being quite aware of consciousness as a child. Then as
things do, they get kind of turned off, you know,
you start living life, start worry about other things. And
then yes, after I finally cleared the path from the
stuff that I needed to let go of, more things
started coming online again and I had more space. I
think sometimes you just have to make space for things
to come in. So yeah, I think as well, COVID
is just a spiritual awakening for everybody. I think everyone
just so many people just woke ups, you know, wanted
to rediscover different aspects of themselves again. Everything priorities and
perspectives were shifted. And I think for me, the spiritual stuff,
the mystic stuff, really just just came back with like
a really thirsty hunger. And I was just reading and
you know, just developing my own spiritual practice again. I
think what.
Speaker 1: Was like the initial because like with my spiritual practice,
was an astrology. Initially it was what grabbed me the most.
Was it the past life for or was it something
more to do with like manifestation your intuition.
Speaker 2: I think it was anything to do with understanding yourself better,
and I think, you know, astrology is beautiful for that.
So it's anything any thread that helps you understand your
energy better. You know, it could be self help book,
could be anything. So I was just kind of relearning
kind of, you know, and sometimes you get like lost
in the sauce for a while. You're like there's too
much information. You're like taking it all in and it's
just feels like a whole new world. But I think
the hypnosis stuff, I don't know why. I think maybe
I discovered Dolores Kannon or something like that and started
reading her books, and I was reading them as like entertainment.
I was reading them as sci fi.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I think people are imperfect. I don't, you know, worship anyone.
But I really enjoyed her books. Like I was just like, oh,
this is like a real good entertainment for me, and
I can't believe people are having these experiences under hypnosis.
And this is before I found out about like Brian
Weiss and all of these other regressionists as well.
Speaker 1: Is she similar to Brianwis, Dolors Kenyon?
Speaker 2: She has her own technique essentially. I say Brian Weiss
has more accredation just because he was an actual psychiatrist
in a hospital, whereas Dolores kind of I don't think
she had that. And it does sometimes lean more new Age,
which people either love or hate. I kind of just
am like. Her beliefs are not my beliefs, but her
technique is amazing. Her technique for this type of past
life stuff. It feels very safe, which is what drew
me to it. Whereas Brian Weiss's stuff, it's probably shorter,
it's probably not as deep, and I think the deeper
you go, the more healing you can access and the
more information you can access. So I was just I
never thought about doing it. If anything, I thought about
having it done to me, but I never thought about
doing it myself. And then, just like you know, in
a serendipitous way, as things happen, I think I just googled.
I was trying to find one of her books or
buy one of you know, the next one in the series,
and I saw that she had a course and I
think this was something that they had brought into an
online thing over cod So they had transferred this exclusively
sort of in person type training and developed an online
course for it. And I just felt like, I really
want to do this. I just had that immediate, sort
of intuitive pull of I haven't really done anything for
myself in a while like this. I love learning, so
let me just do it for fun and see where
we go. I didn't even think I'm going to be
practicing on people. I just thought I want to just learn.
I just love learning so and I hadn't done any
higher education in a while of any kind. So I
just did it and I loved it. And then I
started practicing on people and I just found it to
be such a way of energetic healing. That really suited
me because over the years I was interested in astrology.
I was interested in helstic health and Chinese medicine and herbs,
but not enough to pull me into it to really, hey,
I want to throw all my eggs and really study this.
But there was something about the hypnosis. It just felt
so right. I really loved how you get to spend
a long period of time with someone, but it's not
like a reoccurring thing that you have to do many times.
I didn't want to do something where people became reliant
on it. I think that was important for me. So
that's sort of feeling of you meet someone, it's a beautiful,
like half day most of a day spend together, and
then you go off and you live your life, and
it's not this thing where you constantly feel like you're
booking every month or booking. You know, that was important
to me, So I felt the ethos of it really
felt like it suited my energy type.
Speaker 1: How long was this course and what exactly like did
it entail?
Speaker 2: I think you do at your sort of your own pace.
I think level one you do have to finish it
within maybe a two or three month period, and you
know they kind of you know, pop quiz you along
the way. But it's really one of those things you
learn by doing. Yeah, well they give you all of
the twos and it's really well structured, and you know,
they show tell you all the pitfalls that you might
encounter ahead of time, but you just have to get
out there and do it. There's no really other better
way to learn. It's a very practical skill that it's
not something that you get better act just by reading,
and you know, you really just have to get out
there and put it into practice.
Speaker 1: That's the same with astrology. It's like you can read
all the books you want, but like you have to
see the day that Yeah, you need someone's actual life absolutely.
Who was like the first person you gave a session two?
Speaker 2: The first person I gave a session too was I
think my best friend Adele. I think she satificed herself
and we actually had a really great session, Like it
was a really really good you know, we definitely hit
past lives straight away. And she's not someone that I
thought if anyone maybe you know, it maybe wouldn't happen
straight away. I thought like, maybe it would be her
because I didn't really know. I think we don't talk
about this kind of stuff. We don't, like we talked
about so many other things, but we'd never really talked
about what our beliefs are about this kind of stuff.
But she was so you know, she just was doing
her best friend thing, but she really did have an experience,
and I was like, whoa, this is pretty cool, okay,
And then that was kind of the start of just
being so eager to do more.
Speaker 1: So then you kind of branched out and continue to
do more friends just people you knew.
Speaker 2: And the great thing about having an online community as
well as just I had a whole plethora of just volunteers,
which I think a regular person would struggle to find
volunteers for something like this. It is you have to
do twenty five people before you can move on and
start charging, and you spend like six five six hours
with people, so you know, it's not something you can
just bash it. It takes a few weeks, a few
months to kind of rack up that twenty five first
twenty five people and you have to log them all
and you know, the program reviews everything. Bush. Yeah, it was.
It was fun. It was really fun.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. What are the steps like just
to get because I know people are gonna be so
interested in this. What are the steps you take with
a person in a session? Like, I know I came
to you, I was like, this is what's happening in
my life. I also, I think you had me come
with like a list of questions to ask my higher
self while I was in hypnosis, and then you lead
you into like a state of relaxation. Basically, Yes, it's
not scary, it's not. Yeah, I feel like there's a
lot of mishypnosis.
Speaker 2: You really feel like there's like a vulnerability thing. You
really feel like, oh, this person's gonna wave something in
front of me or a dangle or no. Hypnosis is
just a really deep state of relaxation. So if you've
ever done a guided meditation, it feels exactly like that,
but it's much more you know. And again this is
you know, Dolorus's thing, whatever magic she put into you know,
and she found this technique through the clients that she
was working with as well when they were going into
these states. So she kind of perfected it over many years.
And whatever the wording is, whatever energy it just gets
people into. It helps people just go very very deep
in sort of a ten twelve minute period. So a
lot of the times to get to that state of relaxation,
you know, you'd need to meditate for like an hour,
you know, and it's it would be quite difficult to
get you know, work your way down to those levels.
It's basically like holding dream state. So it's that period
right before you wake up and right before you go
to bed, like you know, when your heads hitting the
po and you're in between sleep, you're in between awakeness
and sleep. It's just about grabbing that and making it
last two hours. So you know, when you think about
waking up and going to sleep, that's quite a difficult
thing to do to sustain that brain wave for that well.
So yeah, we tried to work down to that Theta
brain wave and then once you're in the session, you
just go deeper. And deeper and deeper.
Speaker 1: I remember, like because I'm just someone that's always in
my head and I had tried to do a past
life regression with someone else before you, like back in
twenty twenty and then I saw you in twenty twenty three. Yeah,
and it like didn't work so well because I just
wasn't able to get that relaxed.
Speaker 2: So I was worried, absolutely, But it's.
Speaker 1: Very easy, Like the way you guided me into it.
You were like, Okay, you were walking down the street.
Now what shoes are on your feet is what's on
the tree. And it was just like I'm actually seen yourself,
I know.
Speaker 2: And that's the beauty of like the technique as well.
It's just so well thought out and it's really built
to work on everybody. You know, everybody as the capability
to be hypnotized. It just depends how safe you feel
and how relaxed you work. Those are the two big factors.
So when you kind of mentioned the session breakdown, there's
no clock, there's no limit, which is something maybe very
Aquarius of me, but I love that sort of like, oh,
it's not like a therapist you see for an hour,
you know, it's more soulful than that.
Speaker 1: You really are.
Speaker 2: There to provide this time to the person and they
may need four hours, they may need at a session
that went nine hours, you know, and there's no hourly rate.
It's the same rate, and you know it's you know,
it is what it is. But so you come in
and you just chat to me, You tell me about
your life from start to finish. We go through all
of those big characters, all of those big moments and
formative experiences, and that could take you know, I like
to spend three hours if ideally I think maybe ours
might have been shorter, but now that I know more
about the process, I find longer is better. So at
least two hours, at least two to three hours for
a person to tell me their life story and they
find that zake theratic. So you might get more from
that chat with me than even the hypnosis itself.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: So there's these multiple opportunities for healing moments. Yeah, that's
also something I like because sometimes you just have a
more full spectrum almost experience. You're realizing things while you're conscious,
while you're talking to me, And because a lot of
people have never gotten the chance to sort of have
that sort of cathartic release of really going through their
lifetime and stages like that, and then there's the hypnosis itself.
So it's the two hours never goes over. The first
hour is repressed memories or like in your case, future
memories or past lives, and I find as trends in
that as well that I've kind of seen changing. And
then the second hour is where we get even deeper
into your hypnosis and we're able to connect directly to
your higher self, and that is where I get to
ask the questions that you brought about your life.
Speaker 1: That was so so, Yeah, do you like have an
opinion on like why I saw future life only versus
past life? Does that happen?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's not something we generally do necessarily. But I
also am very I think to do this work well,
you have to be very intuitive, and I'm very good
at sort of reading the session and where it's going.
And I think from just talking to you in the interview,
I felt like you maybe it's just part of your
nature as well, because you're predictive astrologer. Yeah, that's like
one of your specialities. So to me, that makes sense.
It makes sense that we're looking at the future, you know.
And I think it actually would have been weird maybe
for us to look at the past when I think
about it that way. But I think for you, you
needed the comfort of seeing some of those memories. I
think it was important to you to feel how wonderful
they were and actually feel it in your body, because
as you're reliving these memories, you're also feeling the emotion.
You're feeling the joy, you're feeling the sadness that despair,
and you know, it's a visceral feeling that you feel
in your body, and sometimes you know for you they
were good memories, So that creates a sense of safety
in the body. And I think that that was important
at that time.
Speaker 1: And I knew it was real too, because the future
stuff I saw, like I saw myself in my fifties
and my sixties. I don't really think about that far
in the future. And I also didn't have like specific
things I was wanting to happen. Absolutely, like, none of
those memories I saw was stuff I was like.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, imagining, you know. Yeah, And as well, when
you're in this state, you don't have time to come
up with a fake story. Yeah, you're so deep in
relaxation that and the words are flowing like I don't
know if you experienced this, but generally what it feels
like is usually when you speak and you have a conversation,
you're thinking of what you want to say briefly, and
then the words follow. When you're in this state, it's
like you can hear the words leaving your mouth, but
you you don't know where you formulated them from, so
it's not even like you have a second to sort
of make up a fantasy world.
Speaker 1: I especially noticed that, like in the last part of
the session, when it was like I came with those
questions and and you asked them to me while I
was in hypnosis, and my higher self answered them, and
one was like one I had written was like, what
is the past life connection I have with my dad?
And you asked that to me, and immediately I was
like he was my brother, Like I just knew, just know.
Speaker 2: It's like the information is just so accessible to you
in that moment, and it's so beautiful. It's just like
I always get goosebumpstering sessions because I've experienced that too,
where I've you're seeing a completely different person in your
mind's eye, but you recognize the energetic signature of the person,
so you know that person is your brother like in
that lifetime, but you also know it's your dad. It's
like a odd none. It's just like a tele type
of I don't know, just interernoing. It's just an interneing.
Speaker 1: And I was like throwing out random dates. I think
I'd asked something about my career, and then when I
have said to me, I was like twenty twenty five, Yeah,
like I just knew, Yeah, do you ever do this
on yourself?
Speaker 2: It's actually something you can't do to yourself. I would
actually have another facilitator help me.
Speaker 1: Interesting, so you.
Speaker 2: Obviously you can. There's there's past life regressions you can
do on YouTube and things like that, but they're you're
never going to get super super deep. I am working
on something actually to bring people so that they can
try it with something. I want to make sure that
there's safety things and you're not going to get as
deep as what we do one on one. But I
do want to kind of create something that will help
people because I've had a great experience by myself at
home just with a YouTube one and I got a
glimpse that was so insightful. That really just put the
puzzles together about some mysteries that I had in my life.
But in terms of sorry, what was the question again,
I've lost track.
Speaker 1: It was can people do it?
Speaker 2: And them oh you doah? Not really, it's kind of
it's it will be very difficult to.
Speaker 1: Do, yeah, because I've also tried, like watching the Brian
Weisse videos on YouTube, and I just feel like I
need someone else there, Yeah, help me.
Speaker 2: Just guide you down to your place, because you need
for your higher self to come through. Your brain needs
to be so relaxed because the ego needs to completely
like fall down and just go to bed. Otherwise you're
just going to constantly be like am I imagining this?
You know, it's like you're you're not going to be
able to create the images that need to come through.
So that's why, you know, even just the talking part
is part of the relaxation process because you're getting tired talking.
So actually the best way way to be for a
session is tired.
Speaker 1: And I think we did ours in the mid afternoon
and that's like most relaxing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, you kind of start like, you know, you're
not as springy as you are in the morning, So
it just helps all of anything that sort of helps
you get tired is always conducive for a good session.
Speaker 1: Ye have there been any like really crazy stories people
have had like that you've been witnessed to, like where
it's like a past life.
Speaker 2: That's so my friend actually really good friend of mine.
She was the only person that because obviously when people
go down into the state, I think something that really
interesting that happens is their tonality changes, the way they speak,
changes the cadence, the just the way that their nature
about how they speak is different, which I think is
always interesting. But I did have a friend and she
went fully southern, just full Southern accent, just she's from Boston,
Oh my god, and she just was you know, within
a few seconds, she had changed into this poor man
from the South, you know, just a hard worker that
harbored a lot of guilt and you know, we've been
through some stuff and just had a tough life. But
it was southern. It was really really cool. So that
was really visceral in like different gender. And the voice
sounded different too, definitely definitely like she st does sounded
to hurt like her, but it wasn't feminine. It was
just like you know, like a southern, real southern drawl.
So stuff like that will happen, and you know, there's
so many I always say, it doesn't matter if you
believe in past lives or not. What it's important to
me is that very very real healing occurs either way.
So you know, I won't we won't really know until
we're on the other side. But there is like certain
things that happen in some sessions that even my very practical,
logical brain cannot explain sometimes, So you know, even like that,
even for her during that session, one of the other
lifetimes she had was I think we went back and
we did a bunch of research afterwards, and we kind
of nailed it down to like the Ottoman era. So
that was just I don't think a culture either of
us had really heard anything about in our lifetimes. And
she very, very vividly described the shoes she was wearing
and from that period, because I think they were suited
for the desert, suited for the sand. They had this
real like sort of Aladdin curl to them. But they
were like not like anything you would have seen in
a cartoon or a movie. It's not you know, something
that's really highly covered. So she was describing all of
these clothes and all of these things. So it's things
like that that I'm like, how did you Where did
you get that from? That's so specific. So we with
the people I know, I love when we do the
deep dives afterwards, like Okay, what can we find? I
was even finding stuff last night from a session I did,
I want to say, two years ago on someone else
in New York, and he because I've been doing the
events lately, he popped into my mind and in that session.
But he had this thing. He had this kind of
trait that I think some people, very empathetic people have,
is that he would get really upset at the thought
of people being lonely. So he was kind of you know,
he would see his brother not have any friends and
he would like really feel deeply that for that, or
he'd seen old man at a cafe and just think
like he would just be like bawling because he would
assume that that old man may not be really lonely.
But it's just he had a real issue with loneliness
and that he just didn't know where he you know,
he didn't have any childhood experiences that would make him
feel lonely. So it was a real mystery. So the
past life that we explored was that of alone only
French poet, and it was it was sad, it was
it was you know, he was a lonely man and
he just never made any connections in life. So he
had he had that literal emotional bleed over of this feeling,
this empathy for somebody that just went through life completely
alone and they you know, he really took comfort in
writing and writing this poetry. And there was this one
moment where he was like, yeah, I've written a poem
on the wall, or I'm home now and I can
see something that I've written on the wall, and we
kind of get into it. And usually I don't push
someone to do this because it kind of might push
them too much into their logical mind, and we really
want to keep on the creative right side of the brain.
So I don't like to ask about numbers or addresses
or things like that because it kind of takes somebody
out of the experience sometimes. But I just intuitively felt
like I think there's something here, so I was like,
can you read it to me? Now? He was describing
his life as a French person. But because of the
way that your mind works, and because as you speak
and communicate and are doing the session in English, everything
is obviously it's fine. You just you're just communicating in English.
So I got him to recite the poem as a
translation in English. It was like this beautiful four or
five line poem and it had even though it was
translated to English, like there was still a beauty in it.
But it was old worldy. It was not poetry of
this time. And last night I just got this because
I didn't have AI at the time, but I plugged
it into a program last night to research to see
if there was if anything came up, like is this
like a rhythm structure for a poem? What would it
be like if it was translated into French? And it
perfectly spat out this thing of like this is really
reminiscent of this romantic era in France and another country,
and it just was all lining up and it actually
wrote the poem what it most likely in French, and
it was just like the most beautiful, deep thing. And
not only that, the whole subject matter of the poem
completely was reflective of this guy's lonely life. He was
basically writing a poem about his loneliness, and he was
so like, So there's stuff like that. I just can't explain. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like people the memories they see? I
feel like mine is so boring comfort to.
Speaker 2: These No, No, they're not at all.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like people get what they're meant to hear?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I think the higher self is so intelligent and
it decides what it's going to show that person just
the same way that I'm sure maybe when you have
a session with somebody it comes at just the right
time for them. The timing of everything is so important.
So the higher self really is this just it's the
part of your spirit that's connected to this intelligence that's
so beyond any of our little human minds, and it
really does decide, and again, whether you believe in past
lives or not, even if it's the psyche reflecting a
small story that you're running, a program that you're running,
it's doing it in the most intelligent and beautiful way.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I need to have another session.
Speaker 2: Where would we go to another planet?
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to reach a point in
my life where I'm not so upset about the future
and then I can finally be shown stuff from the past.
Speaker 2: But I think I think maybe one of the questions
we asked your high yourself was were you doing this
in other lives? And I think yes, and like the
study of its going back to me. Yeah, so I
think we did kind of touch on that stuff. I
do think you didn't just pop into this life never
having done before. I think you did it in different
ways and at different times.
Speaker 1: That would be interesting. Absolutely, So the past life progression
is that's one element of the work that you do.
How like would you say like that's the majority of
what you do or just in terms of just.
Speaker 2: In the session or as like a career whole.
Speaker 1: Like in terms of like your whole business.
Speaker 2: Everything has the same undercurrent is just connecting with people.
And I think a big part of my energetic blueprint
is helping people get back into an alignment and also
helping them find their own inner guide. I think that's
something I'm very passionate about. Circling back to something we
said earlier. I don't like people to be like reliant
on me, because I want them to be reliant on themselves. Yeah,
that's really important for me, is to help people support
people to help support themselves and you know, really just
get you know, cut out the stuff that isn't working
and bring it to the light and make those energetic
changes and also just like give people belief in themselves.
I think that's something that's always has come through in
my content. It's what I do in my work now,
it's what I do in my workshops as well. Is
just yeah, really just helping people find the little push
that they need sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, community is such a big part of your work,
and like I said, very much ties into your an
Aquarius Rising. You're here in New York for hosting an
event that you did. What do you do at these events?
Speaker 2: That's just like a new facet of what again, something
I was called to do. I think there's something in
my chart that is indicative of being sort of the
unwilling teacher.
Speaker 1: I mean teacher makes sense because your son and Lever's
the ninth House. Yeah, you're meant to share knowledge and spirituality.
Speaker 2: So it's it's there and it's in the stairs. But
I think I was resistant to it for a really
long time. I don't and also, you know when you
talk now, I'm like, I'm really interested in the energy
work stuff, and I've learned so much from my clients
and working as a practicing energy dealer that I feel
like I have lots to share. But I think, you know,
I was trying to find my way a bit with
it because I think everyone I see a lot of
the time in the spiritual space are people that I
don't resonate with or that I don't want to emulate.
So you know, I don't want to call it and
I don't want you know, and I don't like any
of these things. So I was really kind of confused
as to how do how do I build this community
and how is it going to look? And that took
me a few years. So I think I probably had
the intention for it about two years ago, and then
I probably started doing the events maybe like a year
and a half ago. I know it was my birthday.
I had my first one my birthday maybe two years ago, okay,
so I think I would have been like thirty one
around the time of my first event. So yeah, and
I you know, it was real. They're all grassroots operations.
But I loved connecting to people in that way. I
loved being able to share this knowledge because it just
got to the point where I was like collecting and
collecting and collecting, and my spirit really was just asking
me to share. But I was like, no, I just
want to be I just want to keep reading and
keep it to myself. But something I noticed was what
was happening was the teachings stopped coming to me, and
I felt like it was my higher self trying to say,
we're not going to give you more if you're not
going to do anything with it. I felt like I
was being kind of like cut off a little bit energetically,
so they kind of gave me no choice. I was like, okay, fine,
I'll do it. I'll get up, I'll do the speaking thing,
even though it's like my biggest fear.
Speaker 1: It's scary. Sure, so you felt like, okay, I've learned
all there is to learn. Now i want to help
other people get in touch with their own intuition.
Speaker 2: It's like a calling, you know, when it knocks on
the door. I don't know if you like, because when
did you start doing astrology? Do you feel like it
was like a real calling thing, like you just could
not spend your time doing anything else, like it kind
of just forced you into it.
Speaker 1: It came about so randomly too. It wasn't like I
was into astrology as a.
Speaker 2: Kid, yeah, because you found it a bit later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was twenty five, so kind of around
the same time you were getting started with like content creations, yeah,
twenty eighteen finding your thing. Yeah, so that it was
this irresistible pull, like I have to do more of those.
People have to know about their astrology charts. Absolutely, Yeah,
what was I going to ask you how to do? Yeah?
Do you have like tips? Because I know you host
these great events to teach people there, do you just
have like practical tips for people wanting to trust themselves more?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I just think intuition, especially something that I teach
about a lot in this stuff. I teach a lot
about like the the mechanics behind it of energy stuff,
because I really do think our bodies and our minds
and our spirits. So it's like one big computer and
you need to tend to it and tweak it and
tune it all the time. But I think that's a
way that people can really reconnect with their own intuition,
is to to start listening to their like baseline frequency,
like the things that really bring them joy. Like imagine
yourself having the perfect day, like the perfect Saturday, Like
that is your that should be your natural goal to
get to that. And I think a lot of us
are living so out of alignment. We just kind of
assume that we're all supposed to be miserable like all
of the time, when actually we're supposed to be very
close to that joy for as much as possible. So
I always just say, if you're really starting on, you know,
your intuitive journey, go out, have like just clear your
schedule and just like listen. Just become a really good listener.
Ask yourself, what do you want me to do right now?
Do you need me to move my body? Do you
want me to go outside? Do you want me to
eat a meal? And just go about your entire day
like that. You go to one activity and then once
you're done that, you say, Okay, what do you want
to do next? You're like building that inner dialogue, and
your higher self is the voice that you hear back.
It is the voice behind your intuitive impulses and your nudges.
Once you just you know, if you can set aside
the ego a little bit and let that high voice
come through, it will always show you the next step.
And if you have a day like that. I always
find not only does it end up being a beautiful
day where you're in your what your baseline frequency should be,
but you end up having you know, you might go
to a different coffee shop than you usually go to
and then you have an amazing conversation with someone you
never met, and then you're like, oh, from here, I'm
going to go and like go to the gallery and
look at art. And then you go there and you're
like buzzing, And that is such a beautiful practice to do,
to start hearing what your intuitive voice sounds like. So
that is something that those are the type of things
I teach with. There's like, there's so many there's so
many other things.
Speaker 1: I feel like people whenever I ask people this question,
I think it was always about like going with the
flow in that way, like not trying to control your
schedule too much, and that type of thing.
Speaker 2: That's so interesting. Yeah, we're all kind of saying. This
is something I say in modern mystic as well. My
event is we all have like a different language for
the same thing we're trying to say exactly, whether it's science, writing,
you know, poetry, astrology, the stuff that I talk about
it's all the same thing, just in like different languages,
and we're just trying to reach your different audiences.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very true. If it was like someone who
had a bigger dilemma, like I'm so lost in my career,
I want to make more money or something like that,
how would you go about I don't know. I guess
I had those feelings before I became an astrologer, and
it was very much like you were just saying, like
I just followed that interest in astrology every day, ye
kind of snowballed and became suddenly something I was going
to make money off of you.
Speaker 2: I think it's really cliche to say it, and I
know so many different people in the space say it,
but there's something very very powerful about following your highest
interest at any given moment. You know, when you follow
those where you're being pulled, and it requires a lot
of belief and faith, Like any leap of faith really
requires a lot of trust that it's going to work out.
And I think think that's part of the lesson. If
you're feeling scared to shake things up, it's the exact
reason you should shake things up. But it is difficult.
But I would say when things are, you know, feeling
really sort of you don't know where is up? Number one,
Just know that you will come out of that period,
you know, but nothing changes if nothing changes. So I'm
someone like I like to make changes slowly. So sometimes,
you know, if I still have to live a life,
like for example, if I still have to work a
job I really don't like for a while, I'm going
to be spending those extra hours dedicating to my passion
or you know, whatever it is. Or you know, I'm
going to be looking at Okay, well, how can I
work a regular job, But I'll have time for those
things that really light my soul up and my spirit up.
So it's about sort of figuring out how you're going
to invite more light into your body. Those are really
the kind of the key things is recognizing what those
energy drains are, even if it means sitting down and
writing every single thing down that drains your energy. Your job,
this person I have to see every day, this friend,
you know that every time I talk to you, I
feel exhausted. You know, write every single one down and
see how many of them can you mitigate? Like now,
how many of them can you fix? Over time? And
how many of them you can just you know, totally
eliminate or have to keep in But maybe is there
a way you can draw boundary around it? So, for example,
if there's a family members that really takes a lot, Okay,
it's not about cutting them out, but how are you
going to create like an existence where you know they
can be there without draining you? You know, But there's
a lot of stuff that we really can change in
our lives. I just think when you're in it, when
you're in the washing machine, something like quitting a job
feels like the end of the world. It really does.
Speaker 1: And I also find you're not meant to find out
the answers until a specific moment in time, Like there's
a reason why you feel stuck in that moment. You
can't like rush the figuring it out.
Speaker 2: And actually, a great piece of advice I have that
just popped into my mind there, thank you High yourself,
which is probably what I was really trying to say,
is sometimes you don't have to do anything. The universe
will clear the path whether you like it or not.
And that was very true in my story, is that
you know, the universe was gently trying to nudge me
in a direction and show me signs of the things
that weren't aligned. But I just ignored it. But it
will come to a critical mass point where it's just
going to be cleared anyway. So I think your timeline
will always be corrected no matter what you know. It's
just up to you. Do you want to do the
software or do you want to do it like full
rug pulled from under you the hard way. Either way
you will end up in the right place and learn
in the same lessons.
Speaker 1: One question I meant to ask you earlier. Did you
find it hard to like completely pivot the type of
content you were talking about, like going from fashion lifestyle
to now we're talking about past life hypnosis and spiritual stuff.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so difficult, so scary, really scary. Also when it's
so tied to my work and commercial commerciality is that
a word?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that you're making money for? Yeah?
Speaker 2: True, And like you know, it's a weird topic. I
also only upen to really recently have felt like I
found my voice in it, I want to say, even
in the last few weeks. But it's a practice. You know,
when you're practicing a new identity, you're kind of chipping
away you're trying these little things. Some of them don't work,
some of them resonate, some of them make you want
to crawl into a hole and just never see anyone again.
But I did find the transition difficult. Now I don't care,
but at the start, you know, when you do see
followers dropping off and they're not interested in the stuff
you're talking about anymore, you do get a bit of
a and it's me very much, very libra of me.
I not anymore. But again, up until recently had a
real I just wanted to be on everyone's good.
Speaker 1: Side, you know.
Speaker 2: I just like the classic just people pleaser kind of energy.
So now I'm like in a really good place. And
I think as well, when you get to that place,
people really believe it. They can feel the power from it.
So I think since I've come into that, the new
audiences are finding me and it's okay to like go
of the old ones. But it's it's just one of
those things. Just you do feel that panic a little bit.
But yeah, and no identity is just something you have
to keep practicing. I think until it fully kind of
you know, settles.
Speaker 1: This is good to hear because I feel like, even
though I'm still an astrologer, and like posting astrology content,
I kind of feel like I'm pivoting away from what
I used to do, kind of like quick attention grabbing. Yeah,
this is what your moon sign means. Two more like
wanting to go and dub.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and which I've noticed in your content is
so cool.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. But since like I'm losing people, they
are just kind of like that quick stuff and it
makes me nervous, like, oh, I'm not giving people what
they want place.
Speaker 2: But it's just about finding that new audience and like
letting the energetic frequency kind of just magnetize. But it's again,
it's a leap of faith that's asking you to do
something that doesn't feel that good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for a payoff.
Speaker 2: Down the line. It's a bit like paying your chowes.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think, what's really cool that you
created last year and sent me these your conscious clarity
card decks. I don't have any today, but you know
it's fine. Yeah, I wanted the deck last night just
to be like, okay, what is my intwition telling? Yeah,
but what I love about this is so different from
like a tarot card deck, where like you would have
to do a spread with Tero, and then I would
have to google what does the Emperor card mean whatever?
With this, you write out the whole description and it's
kind of just meant to be like a single card,
right that.
Speaker 2: You can do a whole spread. It's actually made to
be used intuitively. The little book at the start, it's total.
It's just, you know, it instructs total flexibility. I see
people posting and they're posting like five or six cards.
I would never put five or six cards for myself,
but they love it. So it was really because I'm
a really flexible systems type person. I don't like rigidity.
I like people to play and be creative. And yeah,
I found in my own sort of divination journey, I
really love cards. But again when I told you, I
find it behind the scenes. I have looked at my
chart so many times. I just don't retain information certain
certain ways. I will never ever remember certain important placements.
And I feel like I'm the same with Taro. I
could be playing with Taro for years and still not
have Taro learned off. And it kind of just began
to be clear to me, was that my learning those
sort of classic interpretations wasn't important to me, and I
also didn't want to. I already know my situation. I
don't need a card to validify the things that are
already going on in my life. I kind of want
to know how I should move forward, how should I
should I work with this energy. So I had the
idea of doing cards for about five years, but I
think maybe after my hypnosis journey started and sort of
seeing you know, I was kind of the dead, made
a taro girl in my friendship group, and I saw
that they would kind of come to me, and I
just felt like, I would love for you to be
able to do these for yourself. Yeah, So that's kind
of how conscious Charity started. It was just how do
I make something accessible and just also new and fresh,
like not an affirmation card deck, not an angel messages deck,
not a tire deck, but also all of those three
things together in one. Yeah, but that's also to the
to the point, to the point your message is there.
You don't have to decode any symbols and things like that, so.
Speaker 1: It's not something you're like fixated on either. Let's validate
these few. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't want it to be pretentious either, because I
think there is a little bit of a pretentious thing
with Taro, like all of the things I know, and
I wanted it to be super accessible for the absolute
normal person to use.
Speaker 1: It's so accurate too. Like last night, I was having
a freak out, just like because I'm having a baby
in like four months, and I was like, I don't know.
It all hit me and I was like, I am
gonna have to be postpartum and have a child I'm
taking care of and I don't know what I'm doing.
And I was like, wait, I'm interviewing tier tomorrow. Let
me just pull one of these. You gets the fool
And it was oh my god, literally to ignore the
fear and like be open to different possibilities and be
confident in yourself. And I was like, that applies to
exactly what I was just freaking out.
Speaker 2: And I had a friend as well that I met
at the event and I know her, but she's pregnant
and she pulled the portal carriage and I was like,
WHOA hilarious, so good because obviously boom space, portal birth,
all of the things, so that makes so much sense,
you know, just is that's how what I designed them for,
just to cut quite down the fear and just you know,
have a little bit of affirmation of just you know,
you're supported, even when you don't feel that you're supported.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have them out when people come over.
Speaker 2: They're They're great for little get together.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One other thing I've noticed you created is like
a whole Instagram profile called modern Mystic, And this is
around the community that you do your events with.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, so I actually have kind of pivoted just
posting everything on my regular am A timer. I like
that it's this is me again. It's kind of a
funny story, you know. It's like I for a minute,
I wasn't confident. I was just like, oh, I'm gonna
have to have separate identities.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if the astrology says anything about
the times we're moving in, but I think it's very
reflective of that sort of fully embodied energy that we're
all moving into and just owning who you are, no
one hundred percent blag and just like you know, I think, yeah, this.
Speaker 1: Is Aquarius and Okay, I'm my own individual, like or
leave it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, but also that like thing of forming community but
like not wanting to conform absolutely with Pluto and Aquarius
and now Aquarius Clipse isn't Aquarius? Yeah, it's interesting, like
I'm an Aquarius son, you have Aquarious. It's just kind
of like we're embodying.
Speaker 2: That a bit more definitely. Yeah, isn't it the age
of Aquarius Now? Is that like a supportive thing for
us or is it just more so its own.
Speaker 1: Thing, that's like its own thing. It's not going to
tied to astrology so much people get. It's more kind
of an ear thing, isn't it. Yeah, it's like hundreds
of years of I'm actually not well versed in what
it means.
Speaker 2: But time I think it's very tight, and I think
it's from what I know. I think it's very tight
into just what's all becoming so interested in this stuff
and it becoming so mainstream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your favorite part about what you do?
Speaker 2: The favorite part of what I do is just I
think like the connections and just the opportunities that you
get that you just would have never have seen coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I'm super surrendered at the moment and kind
of a recovering control freak. So it's nice to just
live life much more presently and sort of let the
universe kind of show me where I want to go.
So life feels very good in that sense. But yeah,
I guess if I was to round it all up together,
I think the best bit about it all is that
I just feel super embodied. That I feel like I'm
doing what I'm supposed to be doing now and I'm
not sort of ignoring any parts of myself, and it's
being really well received, and I think that that's been
a really special reward for it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. What are you are you working on?
Like stuff in the future you mentioned like helping people
do the regression themselves.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm thinking of maybe doing more sort of like
pieces of accessible online content, not like super corsy stuff,
but like these one off either live events that are
also recorded, or just because I do feel like there's stuff.
Modernistic is sort of an overview where I give people
a lot in that event, but there's subtopics within that
that I'd love for them to have their own sort
of offering or their own sort of place where people
can learn from me, you know, just literally just learn
from me. So I think it's about finding more ways
to share what I know and give it to people
that want it because I'm seeing so many healers come
online recently, so so many people are being called like
the holistic spaces, and I don't think that's an accident.
I think that there's need for healing in the world,
so I think therefore the natural response of the universe
is to create more healers. So I'm really interested in
guiding those kind of people as well. So yeah, that's
kind of I think what I have d in the pipeline.
Speaker 1: It's also just on that point of more healers. It's
interesting how you were a certain age and you're like, oh,
a path that I thought would bring me fulfillment, Like
maybe for both of us that was fashion like isn't
really working anymore? What else is there?
Speaker 2: Totally? But you can see it now a lot of
old paradigm jobs are just kind of falling away. Yeah,
And I think if you were kind of lucky enough
to see it falling away from quite a few years back,
I think we were feeling it intuitively, like it's not aligned.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and we didn't know it was going to disappear,
but we.
Speaker 2: Didn't know why it wasn't aligned, because on paper it
should have been aligned. But I think now we're seeing
like the payoff of taking those leaps of faith at
the time.
Speaker 1: That goes back to the intuition stuff, Like I love
how it's like it's telling me something in the moment,
but it's not going to be revealed why until maybe
years from now?
Speaker 2: No, because where with the fun bait. Yeah, they don't
want to hand you stuff in a silver pattern. But
you know, I had a client once who described like
what the higher self is like, and it was we
both laughed like during the hypnosis because it was funny.
But she's like, I don't even watch Star Wars, but
it's like having a Yoda inside. And that's exactly what's happened.
It's somebody that or a part of you that is
giving you intuitive information about just a few steps ahead.
But it doesn't want to do the work for you,
and it doesn't want to tell you the whole picture.
It wants you to have the experience of being a
human and to collect all of this knowledge and experience,
you know, so the universe can experience itself for you.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Well, it's so good talking to you.
Where can everyone find you?
Speaker 2: Oh? I'm at Turmers on Instagram. I'm armor on YouTube,
but yeah, everything is like a link to my bio
and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, hopefully you'll
come and hang out and learn some things.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what happens with you with the
Aquarius eclipses.
Speaker 2: Oh God, what should I expect?
Speaker 1: Good things?
Speaker 2: Okay, wonderful? I needs absolutely. Yeah, we're in the trenches
here recently, so I need some ups swing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, thank you so thank I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank m HM