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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Astrology with Alice. I'm

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here with my good friend Tara Marzuki. She is a modernistic,

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intuitive energy healer and also a past life regressionist. So

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we're going to get into a lot in this episode.

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Speaker 2: So much to cover, Thank you, Alice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so before we get started, what is for everyone listening,

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what is your sun moon and rising?

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Speaker 2: My son is Libra the libergirl Virgo moon and then

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Aquarius rising, So I think that's my love of all

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things kind of mystical and astrology.

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Speaker 1: And you've got a lot of air in your chart.

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Speaker 2: Yes, generate communicator and big sort of yeah, that energy talking,

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which is perfect.

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Speaker 1: Also, I ask people what their chart ruler is because

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you're not like super well versus astrology. I just wanted

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to give that you have Saturn in Aquarius, so in

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your first house in Soudern rules.

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Speaker 2: Chart, which is is that identity stuff right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: I also feel like that's why you're a natural, like

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sharing about your life and things like that.

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Speaker 2: That's a text overshare.

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Speaker 1: So before we fully get into I just want to

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talk about like how we met each other. So we

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got connected in like twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: I think yeah, I mean, it was definitely at least

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five years ago. I was thinking about this this morning,

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this morning, and I was, yeah, somewhere around there online

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we kind.

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Speaker 1: Of it was on Instagram at first I found you.

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I think, yeah, I was thinking back and I think

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I posted about meeting my husband for the first time,

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and you were doing your like the love stories type thing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I was like in my romanticism era,

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the romance era, and I was kind of, you know,

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I was really interested. That must to be how I

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found you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you reposted like me talking about I don't

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even know why I was talking about this on Instagram,

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but like how I had a boyfriend all coming, Yeah,

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so long ago. So then we got connected and then

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we ended up meeting up in person, and then fast

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forward like two and a half years. You gave me

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a past life regression? Is that how you call it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Pretty much. The there's like lots of different techniques and

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different levels of hypnosis that you can do, but the

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one that I do is called QHHT or quantum Healing

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Hypnosis techniques, so it deals with a portion of it

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is involves past life regression.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so I we'll get into that later, like

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the whole session you did for me and everything you

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do there. But that was a super cool experience.

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Speaker 2: I loved your session. It was one of the more

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unique ones. It's always one of the ones I remember, and.

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Speaker 1: People always want to know about that type of stuff,

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like there's an obsession with past lives. But it was

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interesting because in our session, I only found out about

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my future life.

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Speaker 2: Which happens a lot, but usually it's repressed memories, so

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it's past lives or pressed memories, depending on what the

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how yourself wants to show people. But yeah, I think

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for you it was I mean, we get do you

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want to get into it now or get into it later.

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Speaker 1: Let's I want to remind and talk about how you

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even got into like a spiritual type career. So you

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started out, like was your first job out of college

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as a lifestyle content creator or did you pivot into

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that a few years after?

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Speaker 2: It was a mix of both. I graduated and then

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there was a program for Irish people that get let

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us come to America for a year to pursue whatever

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we studied for a year, so I did fashion. So

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I've always had an interest in fashion. I wanted to

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be a fashion designer, but I was starting to get

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to my end of my teather with it. I was

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really trying to find my place and I had tried

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everything I'd done every internship over the years, and I

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was still not sort of getting it. You know. I'd

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kind of get bored after a certain period once I

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stopped learning. And for me, I know, it's very important

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that I'm stimulated as that is possible. But yeah, I

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came here to do fashion. I worked for a high

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end designer and I kind of continued my content stuff

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that I had started in Ireland. So I definitely wasn't

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making money off of it when I first got here.

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It took a good year before I could make take

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the jump, but I was doing kind of some side

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hustle work as a photographer, so you know, I just

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I did the whole New York first year, second year

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hustle thing until I sort of settled and just became

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a kind of a potographer slash content creator.

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Speaker 1: What year did you move from Ireland to New York.

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Speaker 2: I think it was twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna ask because I wanted to ask

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that because you're an Aquarius rising, like the eclipses are

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returning to Aquarius and Leo this year and to the

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next and back then we had a clips to start

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up in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's oh, I just got goosebumps when you said

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that it's ten years, like it would would have moved

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her ten years agoing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on a trick now and it's similar to

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where the eclipses were a positioned. I know you're not

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living here now, but it's interesting, like how you had

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that change life change also, I think it was a

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Virgo eclipse like on your Virgo moon, so changeing home.

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So you have been posting online for like over a

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decade now, is YouTube like was that did that start

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out as your main platform?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I started YouTube and I was eighteen years old,

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kind of just after the first wave of like female

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makeup gurus. So I feel like I was a second wave.

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I just never stopped, you know. I always just find

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it a fun outlet and just to connect with people.

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And I think, you know, I don't know if that's

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in my chart to think it is in some ways,

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but I just think connecting with people and like sharing

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my experience is always been something that's kind of spurred

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me on in life and a way I connect people.

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You know, I think people see themselves in me, or

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they walk a journey alongside me, or they find some

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parts of it invigorating or inspiring.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's definitely an Aquarius Rising thing, like wanting

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to bring people together, but almost like I feel like

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Aquarius does it almost at a distance, or it's like

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you don't need too much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not too much, not too full.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, it's like, okay, memory eave an online

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relationship that's good for me.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: How did you find your niche with content creation. Did

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you just start posting like anything about your life or

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were you very like deliberate, like I want to just

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post about this first.

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Speaker 2: I think makeup was one of my fashion makeup or

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one of my first loves. I really threw myself into that,

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and then I think kind of my relationship with those things,

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it's always there. I always had like a passion for

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those things, but they kind of became just less important

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over the years and it became more of a lifestyle thing.

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for Irish people, that was like a real cool thing

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to do, and people are really interested in that journey. So,

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you know, I was one of a few other creators

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really documenting that experience, and just I think as well,

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you know, when you're from a small town and all

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of these places, you know, going across the Atlantic and

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moving to New York, it's it's an exciting journey to watch.

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So yeah, people were into it, and I kind of

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still do the same thing now. It's just, you know,

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whatever sort of journey life is taking me on, I'm

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just sort of taking people with me so they don't

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feel so alone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. How when did you start to

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notice like your audience grow a bit more and like

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you picked up momentum.

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Speaker 2: There, Probably while I was in New York. I think

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with the identity thing that you mentioned in my chart,

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I think I was really struggling with that growing up,

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just being a mixed race kid in a place where

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there was no one that was really looking like me.

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Asian family. And then but then I also was kind

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of being cast out in certain ways, you know, through

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bullying as a child, So it was just kind of

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like a funny one. I just wanted to blend in.

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I really wanted to blend in all the time, Like

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even if one piece of clothing made me stand out,

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it would make me like anxious. So I think my

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whole path up to the point of getting to New

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York was fumbling around with my identity. And then New

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York really gave me the permission step to be like, Okay,

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who do you want to be? And that's so anonymous.

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I don't need to know anyone. I can wear what

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of the feeling of being at home, which I think

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a lot of people resonate with the hometown kind of

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thing and being shyer and just you know, not feeling

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like you can express yourself maybe fully. So yeah, I

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feel like a lot of my New York journey was

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just like finding out who am I like? Who what

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And that again it goes back to the eclipses

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and your rising side. It's like figuring out different sides

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of your identity. Absolutely, I love that. So we got connected,

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Like I said in twenty twenty one, that was when

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we were both like at the start of our Saturn

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returns because we both have Saturn and Aquarius. Yeah, so

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you've been doing fashion and then your own and like

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your own content creator stuff up until that point. Did

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you start to feel at your Saturn return like twenty

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twenty one, twenty twenty two, like, is there something more

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for me? Do I feel a bit stuck here? I

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don't know how feelings came up.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think I know I had the classic Saturn

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return experience. Just everything I thought that I sort of

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knew was just not the case. You know, I left

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a started leaving. I suppose a like a ten year

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relationship that I had since I was like eighteen, and

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you know, I was kind of we're doing long distance

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and he came here and it was just the classics

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sort of you know, take the things away that are

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not serving you any longer. But I'm one of those people.

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I can be sort of like turn a blind eye

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to the signs when I don't want to see them.

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I'm very intuitive and I'm much more receptive now. But

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I think then I didn't trust my intuition and I wasn't.

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I just I don't know itays bringing my head in

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the sand. So the universe and the timing of everything

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and the Saturn return, it really left, as it does,

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sort of no room for going forward with things that

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you can't carry forward. So I just had the classic

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sort of you know, unexpected discoveries with someone who thought

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you were really safe with. And then from there then

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I really started kind of like returning to even more

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sides of myself that I forgot I lost, you know,

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like the parts of you that you would have enjoyed

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as a child and a teenager. You know. I completely

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rediscovered music and going out dancing and all of these

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things that are really important for my spirit but that

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I just had completely gotten lost in a relationship with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when did the spirituality the interest in that arise

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was that during a Saturday return.

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Speaker 2: Before or after, it wasn't so much super during is

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maybe towards the end, I would say, maybe, Like I actually, yeah,

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I think I was maybe like twenty seven twenty eight,

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during the sort of like peak of those like COVID

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being quite aware of consciousness as a child. Then as

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you start living life, start worry about other things. And

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stuff that I needed to let go of, more things

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started coming online again and I had more space. I

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think sometimes you just have to make space for things

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to come in. So yeah, I think as well, COVID

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is just a spiritual awakening for everybody. I think everyone

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just so many people just woke ups, you know, wanted

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to rediscover different aspects of themselves again. Everything priorities and

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perspectives were shifted. And I think for me, the spiritual stuff,

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the mystic stuff, really just just came back with like

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a really thirsty hunger. And I was just reading and

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you know, just developing my own spiritual practice again. I

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think what.

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Speaker 1: Was like the initial because like with my spiritual practice,

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was an astrology. Initially it was what grabbed me the most.

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Was it the past life for or was it something

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more to do with like manifestation your intuition.

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and I think, you know, astrology is beautiful for that.

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So it's anything any thread that helps you understand your

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energy better. You know, it could be self help book,

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could be anything. So I was just kind of relearning

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kind of, you know, and sometimes you get like lost

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in the sauce for a while. You're like there's too

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much information. You're like taking it all in and it's

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just feels like a whole new world. But I think

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the hypnosis stuff, I don't know why. I think maybe

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I discovered Dolores Kannon or something like that and started

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reading her books, and I was reading them as like entertainment.

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I was reading them as sci fi.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think people are imperfect. I don't, you know, worship anyone.

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But I really enjoyed her books. Like I was just like, oh,

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this is like a real good entertainment for me, and

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I can't believe people are having these experiences under hypnosis.

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And this is before I found out about like Brian

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Weiss and all of these other regressionists as well.

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Speaker 1: Is she similar to Brianwis, Dolors Kenyon?

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Speaker 2: She has her own technique essentially. I say Brian Weiss

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has more accredation just because he was an actual psychiatrist

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in a hospital, whereas Dolores kind of I don't think

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she had that. And it does sometimes lean more new Age,

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which people either love or hate. I kind of just

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am like. Her beliefs are not my beliefs, but her

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technique is amazing. Her technique for this type of past

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life stuff. It feels very safe, which is what drew

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me to it. Whereas Brian Weiss's stuff, it's probably shorter,

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it's probably not as deep, and I think the deeper

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you go, the more healing you can access and the

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more information you can access. So I was just I

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never thought about doing it. If anything, I thought about

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having it done to me, but I never thought about

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doing it myself. And then, just like you know, in

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a serendipitous way, as things happen, I think I just googled.

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I was trying to find one of her books or

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buy one of you know, the next one in the series,

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and I saw that she had a course and I

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think this was something that they had brought into an

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online thing over cod So they had transferred this exclusively

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sort of in person type training and developed an online

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course for it. And I just felt like, I really

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want to do this. I just had that immediate, sort

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of intuitive pull of I haven't really done anything for

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myself in a while like this. I love learning, so

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let me just do it for fun and see where

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we go. I didn't even think I'm going to be

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practicing on people. I just thought I want to just learn.

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I just love learning so and I hadn't done any

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higher education in a while of any kind. So I

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just did it and I loved it. And then I

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started practicing on people and I just found it to

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be such a way of energetic healing. That really suited

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me because over the years I was interested in astrology.

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I was interested in helstic health and Chinese medicine and herbs,

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but not enough to pull me into it to really, hey,

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I want to throw all my eggs and really study this.

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But there was something about the hypnosis. It just felt

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so right. I really loved how you get to spend

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a long period of time with someone, but it's not

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like a reoccurring thing that you have to do many times.

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I didn't want to do something where people became reliant

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on it. I think that was important for me. So

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that's sort of feeling of you meet someone, it's a beautiful,

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like half day most of a day spend together, and

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then you go off and you live your life, and

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it's not this thing where you constantly feel like you're

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booking every month or booking. You know, that was important

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to me, So I felt the ethos of it really

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felt like it suited my energy type.

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Speaker 1: How long was this course and what exactly like did

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it entail?

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Speaker 2: I think you do at your sort of your own pace.

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I think level one you do have to finish it

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within maybe a two or three month period, and you

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know they kind of you know, pop quiz you along

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the way. But it's really one of those things you

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learn by doing. Yeah, well they give you all of

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the twos and it's really well structured, and you know,

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they show tell you all the pitfalls that you might

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encounter ahead of time, but you just have to get

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out there and do it. There's no really other better

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way to learn. It's a very practical skill that it's

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not something that you get better act just by reading,

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and you know, you really just have to get out

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there and put it into practice.

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Speaker 1: That's the same with astrology. It's like you can read

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all the books you want, but like you have to

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see the day that Yeah, you need someone's actual life absolutely.

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Who was like the first person you gave a session two?

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Speaker 2: The first person I gave a session too was I

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think my best friend Adele. I think she satificed herself

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and we actually had a really great session, Like it

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was a really really good you know, we definitely hit

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past lives straight away. And she's not someone that I

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thought if anyone maybe you know, it maybe wouldn't happen

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straight away. I thought like, maybe it would be her

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because I didn't really know. I think we don't talk

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about this kind of stuff. We don't, like we talked

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about so many other things, but we'd never really talked

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about what our beliefs are about this kind of stuff.

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But she was so you know, she just was doing

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her best friend thing, but she really did have an experience,

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and I was like, whoa, this is pretty cool, okay,

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And then that was kind of the start of just

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being so eager to do more.

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Speaker 1: So then you kind of branched out and continue to

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do more friends just people you knew.

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Speaker 2: And the great thing about having an online community as

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well as just I had a whole plethora of just volunteers,

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which I think a regular person would struggle to find

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volunteers for something like this. It is you have to

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do twenty five people before you can move on and

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start charging, and you spend like six five six hours

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with people, so you know, it's not something you can

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just bash it. It takes a few weeks, a few

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months to kind of rack up that twenty five first

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twenty five people and you have to log them all

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and you know, the program reviews everything. Bush. Yeah, it was.

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It was fun. It was really fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that. What are the steps like just

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to get because I know people are gonna be so

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interested in this. What are the steps you take with

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a person in a session? Like, I know I came

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to you, I was like, this is what's happening in

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my life. I also, I think you had me come

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with like a list of questions to ask my higher

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self while I was in hypnosis, and then you lead

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you into like a state of relaxation. Basically, Yes, it's

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not scary, it's not. Yeah, I feel like there's a

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lot of mishypnosis.

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Speaker 2: You really feel like there's like a vulnerability thing. You

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really feel like, oh, this person's gonna wave something in

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front of me or a dangle or no. Hypnosis is

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just a really deep state of relaxation. So if you've

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ever done a guided meditation, it feels exactly like that,

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but it's much more you know. And again this is

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you know, Dolorus's thing, whatever magic she put into you know,

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and she found this technique through the clients that she

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was working with as well when they were going into

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these states. So she kind of perfected it over many years.

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And whatever the wording is, whatever energy it just gets

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people into. It helps people just go very very deep

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in sort of a ten twelve minute period. So a

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lot of the times to get to that state of relaxation,

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you know, you'd need to meditate for like an hour,

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you know, and it's it would be quite difficult to

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get you know, work your way down to those levels.

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It's basically like holding dream state. So it's that period

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right before you wake up and right before you go

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to bed, like you know, when your heads hitting the

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po and you're in between sleep, you're in between awakeness

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and sleep. It's just about grabbing that and making it

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last two hours. So you know, when you think about

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waking up and going to sleep, that's quite a difficult

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thing to do to sustain that brain wave for that well.

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So yeah, we tried to work down to that Theta

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brain wave and then once you're in the session, you

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just go deeper. And deeper and deeper.

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Speaker 1: I remember, like because I'm just someone that's always in

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my head and I had tried to do a past

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life regression with someone else before you, like back in

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twenty twenty and then I saw you in twenty twenty three. Yeah,

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and it like didn't work so well because I just

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wasn't able to get that relaxed.

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Speaker 2: So I was worried, absolutely, But it's.

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Speaker 1: Very easy, Like the way you guided me into it.

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You were like, Okay, you were walking down the street.

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Now what shoes are on your feet is what's on

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the tree. And it was just like I'm actually seen yourself,

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I know.

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Speaker 2: And that's the beauty of like the technique as well.

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It's just so well thought out and it's really built

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to work on everybody. You know, everybody as the capability

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to be hypnotized. It just depends how safe you feel

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and how relaxed you work. Those are the two big factors.

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So when you kind of mentioned the session breakdown, there's

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no clock, there's no limit, which is something maybe very

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Aquarius of me, but I love that sort of like, oh,

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it's not like a therapist you see for an hour,

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you know, it's more soulful than that.

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Speaker 1: You really are.

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Speaker 2: There to provide this time to the person and they

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may need four hours, they may need at a session

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that went nine hours, you know, and there's no hourly rate.

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It's the same rate, and you know it's you know,

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it is what it is. But so you come in

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and you just chat to me, You tell me about

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your life from start to finish. We go through all

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of those big characters, all of those big moments and

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formative experiences, and that could take you know, I like

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to spend three hours if ideally I think maybe ours

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might have been shorter, but now that I know more

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about the process, I find longer is better. So at

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least two hours, at least two to three hours for

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a person to tell me their life story and they

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find that zake theratic. So you might get more from

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that chat with me than even the hypnosis itself.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 2: So there's these multiple opportunities for healing moments. Yeah, that's

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also something I like because sometimes you just have a

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more full spectrum almost experience. You're realizing things while you're conscious,

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while you're talking to me, And because a lot of

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people have never gotten the chance to sort of have

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that sort of cathartic release of really going through their

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lifetime and stages like that, and then there's the hypnosis itself.

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So it's the two hours never goes over. The first

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hour is repressed memories or like in your case, future

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memories or past lives, and I find as trends in

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that as well that I've kind of seen changing. And

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then the second hour is where we get even deeper

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into your hypnosis and we're able to connect directly to

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your higher self, and that is where I get to

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ask the questions that you brought about your life.

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Speaker 1: That was so so, Yeah, do you like have an

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opinion on like why I saw future life only versus

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past life? Does that happen?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's not something we generally do necessarily. But I

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also am very I think to do this work well,

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you have to be very intuitive, and I'm very good

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at sort of reading the session and where it's going.

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And I think from just talking to you in the interview,

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I felt like you maybe it's just part of your

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nature as well, because you're predictive astrologer. Yeah, that's like

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one of your specialities. So to me, that makes sense.

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It makes sense that we're looking at the future, you know.

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And I think it actually would have been weird maybe

480
00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:35,799
for us to look at the past when I think

481
00:21:35,799 --> 00:21:38,880
about it that way. But I think for you, you

482
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,680
needed the comfort of seeing some of those memories. I

483
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,559
think it was important to you to feel how wonderful

484
00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:48,880
they were and actually feel it in your body, because

485
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,279
as you're reliving these memories, you're also feeling the emotion.

486
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,759
You're feeling the joy, you're feeling the sadness that despair,

487
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,559
and you know, it's a visceral feeling that you feel

488
00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:01,000
in your body, and sometimes you know for you they

489
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,839
were good memories, So that creates a sense of safety

490
00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:05,559
in the body. And I think that that was important

491
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,240
at that time.

492
00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: And I knew it was real too, because the future

493
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,599
stuff I saw, like I saw myself in my fifties

494
00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:14,279
and my sixties. I don't really think about that far

495
00:22:14,319 --> 00:22:17,559
in the future. And I also didn't have like specific

496
00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:20,200
things I was wanting to happen. Absolutely, like, none of

497
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,440
those memories I saw was stuff I was like.

498
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, imagining, you know. Yeah, And as well, when

499
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,359
you're in this state, you don't have time to come

500
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,119
up with a fake story. Yeah, you're so deep in

501
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,279
relaxation that and the words are flowing like I don't

502
00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:35,759
know if you experienced this, but generally what it feels

503
00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:38,920
like is usually when you speak and you have a conversation,

504
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,480
you're thinking of what you want to say briefly, and

505
00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:44,480
then the words follow. When you're in this state, it's

506
00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:46,759
like you can hear the words leaving your mouth, but

507
00:22:46,839 --> 00:22:49,240
you you don't know where you formulated them from, so

508
00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:51,400
it's not even like you have a second to sort

509
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,359
of make up a fantasy world.

510
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: I especially noticed that, like in the last part of

511
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,039
the session, when it was like I came with those

512
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,680
questions and and you asked them to me while I

513
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,680
was in hypnosis, and my higher self answered them, and

514
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,160
one was like one I had written was like, what

515
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,839
is the past life connection I have with my dad?

516
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,319
And you asked that to me, and immediately I was

517
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,920
like he was my brother, Like I just knew, just know.

518
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,319
Speaker 2: It's like the information is just so accessible to you

519
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,119
in that moment, and it's so beautiful. It's just like

520
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,880
I always get goosebumpstering sessions because I've experienced that too,

521
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,759
where I've you're seeing a completely different person in your

522
00:23:28,759 --> 00:23:32,039
mind's eye, but you recognize the energetic signature of the person,

523
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,920
so you know that person is your brother like in

524
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,279
that lifetime, but you also know it's your dad. It's

525
00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:40,880
like a odd none. It's just like a tele type

526
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,960
of I don't know, just interernoing. It's just an interneing.

527
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: And I was like throwing out random dates. I think

528
00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,480
I'd asked something about my career, and then when I

529
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:49,400
have said to me, I was like twenty twenty five, Yeah,

530
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,039
like I just knew, Yeah, do you ever do this

531
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:52,839
on yourself?

532
00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: It's actually something you can't do to yourself. I would

533
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,720
actually have another facilitator help me.

534
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: Interesting, so you.

535
00:23:58,839 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: Obviously you can. There's there's past life regressions you can

536
00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:03,359
do on YouTube and things like that, but they're you're

537
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,200
never going to get super super deep. I am working

538
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,599
on something actually to bring people so that they can

539
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,240
try it with something. I want to make sure that

540
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,240
there's safety things and you're not going to get as

541
00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:17,119
deep as what we do one on one. But I

542
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,000
do want to kind of create something that will help

543
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,759
people because I've had a great experience by myself at

544
00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:23,640
home just with a YouTube one and I got a

545
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,519
glimpse that was so insightful. That really just put the

546
00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:28,920
puzzles together about some mysteries that I had in my life.

547
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,799
But in terms of sorry, what was the question again,

548
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:34,839
I've lost track.

549
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: It was can people do it?

550
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: And them oh you doah? Not really, it's kind of

551
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,799
it's it will be very difficult to.

552
00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: Do, yeah, because I've also tried, like watching the Brian

553
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,240
Weisse videos on YouTube, and I just feel like I

554
00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:48,160
need someone else there, Yeah, help me.

555
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,279
Speaker 2: Just guide you down to your place, because you need

556
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,880
for your higher self to come through. Your brain needs

557
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,119
to be so relaxed because the ego needs to completely

558
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,519
like fall down and just go to bed. Otherwise you're

559
00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:03,759
just going to constantly be like am I imagining this?

560
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,920
You know, it's like you're you're not going to be

561
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,640
able to create the images that need to come through.

562
00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:11,759
So that's why, you know, even just the talking part

563
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,400
is part of the relaxation process because you're getting tired talking.

564
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:20,200
So actually the best way way to be for a

565
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,359
session is tired.

566
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: And I think we did ours in the mid afternoon

567
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,799
and that's like most relaxing.

568
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, you kind of start like, you know, you're

569
00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:29,920
not as springy as you are in the morning, So

570
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,559
it just helps all of anything that sort of helps

571
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:35,640
you get tired is always conducive for a good session.

572
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: Ye have there been any like really crazy stories people

573
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,720
have had like that you've been witnessed to, like where

574
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:42,720
it's like a past life.

575
00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:47,039
Speaker 2: That's so my friend actually really good friend of mine.

576
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:49,960
She was the only person that because obviously when people

577
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,400
go down into the state, I think something that really

578
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,160
interesting that happens is their tonality changes, the way they speak,

579
00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:01,440
changes the cadence, the just the way that their nature

580
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,079
about how they speak is different, which I think is

581
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,440
always interesting. But I did have a friend and she

582
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:13,039
went fully southern, just full Southern accent, just she's from Boston,

583
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,079
Oh my god, and she just was you know, within

584
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,880
a few seconds, she had changed into this poor man

585
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,079
from the South, you know, just a hard worker that

586
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,960
harbored a lot of guilt and you know, we've been

587
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,799
through some stuff and just had a tough life. But

588
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,160
it was southern. It was really really cool. So that

589
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:36,359
was really visceral in like different gender. And the voice

590
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,920
sounded different too, definitely definitely like she st does sounded

591
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,400
to hurt like her, but it wasn't feminine. It was

592
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,519
just like you know, like a southern, real southern drawl.

593
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:47,000
So stuff like that will happen, and you know, there's

594
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,759
so many I always say, it doesn't matter if you

595
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:51,640
believe in past lives or not. What it's important to

596
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,160
me is that very very real healing occurs either way.

597
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,079
So you know, I won't we won't really know until

598
00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:02,039
we're on the other side. But there is like certain

599
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:05,359
things that happen in some sessions that even my very practical,

600
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,279
logical brain cannot explain sometimes, So you know, even like that,

601
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,680
even for her during that session, one of the other

602
00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:16,440
lifetimes she had was I think we went back and

603
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,720
we did a bunch of research afterwards, and we kind

604
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,880
of nailed it down to like the Ottoman era. So

605
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,960
that was just I don't think a culture either of

606
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:30,240
us had really heard anything about in our lifetimes. And

607
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,200
she very, very vividly described the shoes she was wearing

608
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:36,559
and from that period, because I think they were suited

609
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,680
for the desert, suited for the sand. They had this

610
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:41,759
real like sort of Aladdin curl to them. But they

611
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:43,640
were like not like anything you would have seen in

612
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,559
a cartoon or a movie. It's not you know, something

613
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,960
that's really highly covered. So she was describing all of

614
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,880
these clothes and all of these things. So it's things

615
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,000
like that that I'm like, how did you Where did

616
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,519
you get that from? That's so specific. So we with

617
00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:01,400
the people I know, I love when we do the

618
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,680
deep dives afterwards, like Okay, what can we find? I

619
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:07,720
was even finding stuff last night from a session I did,

620
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,799
I want to say, two years ago on someone else

621
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:14,079
in New York, and he because I've been doing the

622
00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:19,000
events lately, he popped into my mind and in that session.

623
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:21,480
But he had this thing. He had this kind of

624
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:25,039
trait that I think some people, very empathetic people have,

625
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,680
is that he would get really upset at the thought

626
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,160
of people being lonely. So he was kind of you know,

627
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,359
he would see his brother not have any friends and

628
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,000
he would like really feel deeply that for that, or

629
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,160
he'd seen old man at a cafe and just think

630
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,440
like he would just be like bawling because he would

631
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:43,599
assume that that old man may not be really lonely.

632
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,000
But it's just he had a real issue with loneliness

633
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:49,559
and that he just didn't know where he you know,

634
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:51,839
he didn't have any childhood experiences that would make him

635
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:54,480
feel lonely. So it was a real mystery. So the

636
00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,359
past life that we explored was that of alone only

637
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,799
French poet, and it was it was sad, it was

638
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,880
it was you know, he was a lonely man and

639
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,440
he just never made any connections in life. So he

640
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:13,119
had he had that literal emotional bleed over of this feeling,

641
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:16,359
this empathy for somebody that just went through life completely

642
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,240
alone and they you know, he really took comfort in

643
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:24,920
writing and writing this poetry. And there was this one

644
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,559
moment where he was like, yeah, I've written a poem

645
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,559
on the wall, or I'm home now and I can

646
00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:32,359
see something that I've written on the wall, and we

647
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,039
kind of get into it. And usually I don't push

648
00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:36,720
someone to do this because it kind of might push

649
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:39,200
them too much into their logical mind, and we really

650
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,759
want to keep on the creative right side of the brain.

651
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,599
So I don't like to ask about numbers or addresses

652
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,839
or things like that because it kind of takes somebody

653
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,160
out of the experience sometimes. But I just intuitively felt

654
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,759
like I think there's something here, so I was like,

655
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,480
can you read it to me? Now? He was describing

656
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,599
his life as a French person. But because of the

657
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,000
way that your mind works, and because as you speak

658
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:04,039
and communicate and are doing the session in English, everything

659
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:08,039
is obviously it's fine. You just you're just communicating in English.

660
00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:11,119
So I got him to recite the poem as a

661
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,759
translation in English. It was like this beautiful four or

662
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:17,799
five line poem and it had even though it was

663
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:20,559
translated to English, like there was still a beauty in it.

664
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,680
But it was old worldy. It was not poetry of

665
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,720
this time. And last night I just got this because

666
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,319
I didn't have AI at the time, but I plugged

667
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,839
it into a program last night to research to see

668
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,839
if there was if anything came up, like is this

669
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:40,200
like a rhythm structure for a poem? What would it

670
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,880
be like if it was translated into French? And it

671
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:46,240
perfectly spat out this thing of like this is really

672
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:54,000
reminiscent of this romantic era in France and another country,

673
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:56,839
and it just was all lining up and it actually

674
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:00,720
wrote the poem what it most likely in French, and

675
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:03,680
it was just like the most beautiful, deep thing. And

676
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:06,200
not only that, the whole subject matter of the poem

677
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,839
completely was reflective of this guy's lonely life. He was

678
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,039
basically writing a poem about his loneliness, and he was

679
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:18,559
so like, So there's stuff like that. I just can't explain. Sometimes.

680
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,359
Speaker 1: Do you feel like people the memories they see? I

681
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:23,079
feel like mine is so boring comfort to.

682
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,559
Speaker 2: These No, No, they're not at all.

683
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,119
Speaker 1: Do you feel like people get what they're meant to hear?

684
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:32,119
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I think the higher self is so intelligent and

685
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,400
it decides what it's going to show that person just

686
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,319
the same way that I'm sure maybe when you have

687
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:39,240
a session with somebody it comes at just the right

688
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:42,319
time for them. The timing of everything is so important.

689
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:44,680
So the higher self really is this just it's the

690
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,480
part of your spirit that's connected to this intelligence that's

691
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,440
so beyond any of our little human minds, and it

692
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,559
really does decide, and again, whether you believe in past

693
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,119
lives or not, even if it's the psyche reflecting a

694
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,559
small story that you're running, a program that you're running,

695
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:03,640
it's doing it in the most intelligent and beautiful way.

696
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I need to have another session.

697
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,279
Speaker 2: Where would we go to another planet?

698
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:13,279
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to reach a point in

699
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,000
my life where I'm not so upset about the future

700
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,839
and then I can finally be shown stuff from the past.

701
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,319
Speaker 2: But I think I think maybe one of the questions

702
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,720
we asked your high yourself was were you doing this

703
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,200
in other lives? And I think yes, and like the

704
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,799
study of its going back to me. Yeah, so I

705
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:32,160
think we did kind of touch on that stuff. I

706
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,000
do think you didn't just pop into this life never

707
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:38,079
having done before. I think you did it in different

708
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,240
ways and at different times.

709
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,079
Speaker 1: That would be interesting. Absolutely, So the past life progression

710
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,079
is that's one element of the work that you do.

711
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,440
How like would you say like that's the majority of

712
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:52,200
what you do or just in terms of just.

713
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: In the session or as like a career whole.

714
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: Like in terms of like your whole business.

715
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,599
Speaker 2: Everything has the same undercurrent is just connecting with people.

716
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,440
And I think a big part of my energetic blueprint

717
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:07,440
is helping people get back into an alignment and also

718
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:10,480
helping them find their own inner guide. I think that's

719
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:13,559
something I'm very passionate about. Circling back to something we

720
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:15,680
said earlier. I don't like people to be like reliant

721
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,359
on me, because I want them to be reliant on themselves. Yeah,

722
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,559
that's really important for me, is to help people support

723
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:25,880
people to help support themselves and you know, really just

724
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,440
get you know, cut out the stuff that isn't working

725
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,759
and bring it to the light and make those energetic

726
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,000
changes and also just like give people belief in themselves.

727
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:36,720
I think that's something that's always has come through in

728
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,880
my content. It's what I do in my work now,

729
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,680
it's what I do in my workshops as well. Is

730
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:45,880
just yeah, really just helping people find the little push

731
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,759
that they need sometimes.

732
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, community is such a big part of your work,

733
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,400
and like I said, very much ties into your an

734
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,400
Aquarius Rising. You're here in New York for hosting an

735
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,359
event that you did. What do you do at these events?

736
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: That's just like a new facet of what again, something

737
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,279
I was called to do. I think there's something in

738
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:08,440
my chart that is indicative of being sort of the

739
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:09,920
unwilling teacher.

740
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,679
Speaker 1: I mean teacher makes sense because your son and Lever's

741
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,760
the ninth House. Yeah, you're meant to share knowledge and spirituality.

742
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 2: So it's it's there and it's in the stairs. But

743
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,880
I think I was resistant to it for a really

744
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,079
long time. I don't and also, you know when you

745
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,480
talk now, I'm like, I'm really interested in the energy

746
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,119
work stuff, and I've learned so much from my clients

747
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:33,639
and working as a practicing energy dealer that I feel

748
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,760
like I have lots to share. But I think, you know,

749
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,960
I was trying to find my way a bit with

750
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,800
it because I think everyone I see a lot of

751
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,920
the time in the spiritual space are people that I

752
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,400
don't resonate with or that I don't want to emulate.

753
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,039
So you know, I don't want to call it and

754
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:50,360
I don't want you know, and I don't like any

755
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,239
of these things. So I was really kind of confused

756
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,599
as to how do how do I build this community

757
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:56,760
and how is it going to look? And that took

758
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,119
me a few years. So I think I probably had

759
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:02,039
the intention for it about two years ago, and then

760
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:04,440
I probably started doing the events maybe like a year

761
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,079
and a half ago. I know it was my birthday.

762
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:09,840
I had my first one my birthday maybe two years ago, okay,

763
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,119
so I think I would have been like thirty one

764
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,599
around the time of my first event. So yeah, and

765
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,119
I you know, it was real. They're all grassroots operations.

766
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:23,079
But I loved connecting to people in that way. I

767
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:25,079
loved being able to share this knowledge because it just

768
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,199
got to the point where I was like collecting and

769
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,000
collecting and collecting, and my spirit really was just asking

770
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,079
me to share. But I was like, no, I just

771
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:33,880
want to be I just want to keep reading and

772
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,800
keep it to myself. But something I noticed was what

773
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:42,000
was happening was the teachings stopped coming to me, and

774
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,440
I felt like it was my higher self trying to say,

775
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,199
we're not going to give you more if you're not

776
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,280
going to do anything with it. I felt like I

777
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,880
was being kind of like cut off a little bit energetically,

778
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:55,039
so they kind of gave me no choice. I was like, okay, fine,

779
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:56,960
I'll do it. I'll get up, I'll do the speaking thing,

780
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,360
even though it's like my biggest fear.

781
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: It's scary. Sure, so you felt like, okay, I've learned

782
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,039
all there is to learn. Now i want to help

783
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,000
other people get in touch with their own intuition.

784
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: It's like a calling, you know, when it knocks on

785
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,000
the door. I don't know if you like, because when

786
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:12,000
did you start doing astrology? Do you feel like it

787
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,679
was like a real calling thing, like you just could

788
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,760
not spend your time doing anything else, like it kind

789
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,760
of just forced you into it.

790
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: It came about so randomly too. It wasn't like I

791
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,079
was into astrology as a.

792
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: Kid, yeah, because you found it a bit later.

793
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was twenty five, so kind of around

794
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,440
the same time you were getting started with like content creations, yeah,

795
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:33,840
twenty eighteen finding your thing. Yeah, so that it was

796
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:36,880
this irresistible pull, like I have to do more of those.

797
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,159
People have to know about their astrology charts. Absolutely, Yeah,

798
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,519
what was I going to ask you how to do? Yeah?

799
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:45,079
Do you have like tips? Because I know you host

800
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,559
these great events to teach people there, do you just

801
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:51,119
have like practical tips for people wanting to trust themselves more?

802
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I just think intuition, especially something that I teach

803
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,480
about a lot in this stuff. I teach a lot

804
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,119
about like the the mechanics behind it of energy stuff,

805
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,320
because I really do think our bodies and our minds

806
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,559
and our spirits. So it's like one big computer and

807
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:07,800
you need to tend to it and tweak it and

808
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,239
tune it all the time. But I think that's a

809
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,480
way that people can really reconnect with their own intuition,

810
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,639
is to to start listening to their like baseline frequency,

811
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,519
like the things that really bring them joy. Like imagine

812
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:28,000
yourself having the perfect day, like the perfect Saturday, Like

813
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:34,119
that is your that should be your natural goal to

814
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:35,760
get to that. And I think a lot of us

815
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,800
are living so out of alignment. We just kind of

816
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,199
assume that we're all supposed to be miserable like all

817
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,360
of the time, when actually we're supposed to be very

818
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,320
close to that joy for as much as possible. So

819
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:49,920
I always just say, if you're really starting on, you know,

820
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,119
your intuitive journey, go out, have like just clear your

821
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:58,599
schedule and just like listen. Just become a really good listener.

822
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,400
Ask yourself, what do you want me to do right now?

823
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,639
Do you need me to move my body? Do you

824
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:05,440
want me to go outside? Do you want me to

825
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,880
eat a meal? And just go about your entire day

826
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,079
like that. You go to one activity and then once

827
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:13,119
you're done that, you say, Okay, what do you want

828
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:16,360
to do next? You're like building that inner dialogue, and

829
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,159
your higher self is the voice that you hear back.

830
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:24,000
It is the voice behind your intuitive impulses and your nudges.

831
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:26,119
Once you just you know, if you can set aside

832
00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:29,079
the ego a little bit and let that high voice

833
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:31,400
come through, it will always show you the next step.

834
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:33,199
And if you have a day like that. I always

835
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,480
find not only does it end up being a beautiful

836
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:38,840
day where you're in your what your baseline frequency should be,

837
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,280
but you end up having you know, you might go

838
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,079
to a different coffee shop than you usually go to

839
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:44,880
and then you have an amazing conversation with someone you

840
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,119
never met, and then you're like, oh, from here, I'm

841
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,960
going to go and like go to the gallery and

842
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,159
look at art. And then you go there and you're

843
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,840
like buzzing, And that is such a beautiful practice to do,

844
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,280
to start hearing what your intuitive voice sounds like. So

845
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,280
that is something that those are the type of things

846
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,960
I teach with. There's like, there's so many there's so

847
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:03,719
many other things.

848
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,159
Speaker 1: I feel like people whenever I ask people this question,

849
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:07,719
I think it was always about like going with the

850
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,920
flow in that way, like not trying to control your

851
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,519
schedule too much, and that type of thing.

852
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:13,639
Speaker 2: That's so interesting. Yeah, we're all kind of saying. This

853
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,440
is something I say in modern mystic as well. My

854
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,039
event is we all have like a different language for

855
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,280
the same thing we're trying to say exactly, whether it's science, writing,

856
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,440
you know, poetry, astrology, the stuff that I talk about

857
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:28,599
it's all the same thing, just in like different languages,

858
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:30,440
and we're just trying to reach your different audiences.

859
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very true. If it was like someone who

860
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,280
had a bigger dilemma, like I'm so lost in my career,

861
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,519
I want to make more money or something like that,

862
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,800
how would you go about I don't know. I guess

863
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,159
I had those feelings before I became an astrologer, and

864
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:46,880
it was very much like you were just saying, like

865
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:49,760
I just followed that interest in astrology every day, ye

866
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,719
kind of snowballed and became suddenly something I was going

867
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,679
to make money off of you.

868
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,039
Speaker 2: I think it's really cliche to say it, and I

869
00:39:57,079 --> 00:39:59,920
know so many different people in the space say it,

870
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:04,360
but there's something very very powerful about following your highest

871
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,360
interest at any given moment. You know, when you follow

872
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,920
those where you're being pulled, and it requires a lot

873
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,760
of belief and faith, Like any leap of faith really

874
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,360
requires a lot of trust that it's going to work out.

875
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,440
And I think think that's part of the lesson. If

876
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,679
you're feeling scared to shake things up, it's the exact

877
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,480
reason you should shake things up. But it is difficult.

878
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:29,880
But I would say when things are, you know, feeling

879
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,199
really sort of you don't know where is up? Number one,

880
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,159
Just know that you will come out of that period,

881
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,840
you know, but nothing changes if nothing changes. So I'm

882
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,000
someone like I like to make changes slowly. So sometimes,

883
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,599
you know, if I still have to live a life,

884
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:45,920
like for example, if I still have to work a

885
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,320
job I really don't like for a while, I'm going

886
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,719
to be spending those extra hours dedicating to my passion

887
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,760
or you know, whatever it is. Or you know, I'm

888
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,519
going to be looking at Okay, well, how can I

889
00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:02,079
work a regular job, But I'll have time for those

890
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:04,559
things that really light my soul up and my spirit up.

891
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,079
So it's about sort of figuring out how you're going

892
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:10,440
to invite more light into your body. Those are really

893
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,239
the kind of the key things is recognizing what those

894
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,000
energy drains are, even if it means sitting down and

895
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,519
writing every single thing down that drains your energy. Your job,

896
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:23,320
this person I have to see every day, this friend,

897
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,239
you know that every time I talk to you, I

898
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,159
feel exhausted. You know, write every single one down and

899
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,800
see how many of them can you mitigate? Like now,

900
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,519
how many of them can you fix? Over time? And

901
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:36,840
how many of them you can just you know, totally

902
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,440
eliminate or have to keep in But maybe is there

903
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,480
a way you can draw boundary around it? So, for example,

904
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:47,360
if there's a family members that really takes a lot, Okay,

905
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,800
it's not about cutting them out, but how are you

906
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,840
going to create like an existence where you know they

907
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,159
can be there without draining you? You know, But there's

908
00:41:57,159 --> 00:41:58,960
a lot of stuff that we really can change in

909
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,440
our lives. I just think when you're in it, when

910
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,039
you're in the washing machine, something like quitting a job

911
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:07,000
feels like the end of the world. It really does.

912
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: And I also find you're not meant to find out

913
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,719
the answers until a specific moment in time, Like there's

914
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,920
a reason why you feel stuck in that moment. You

915
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,039
can't like rush the figuring it out.

916
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: And actually, a great piece of advice I have that

917
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:20,360
just popped into my mind there, thank you High yourself,

918
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,880
which is probably what I was really trying to say,

919
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,719
is sometimes you don't have to do anything. The universe

920
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,639
will clear the path whether you like it or not.

921
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,840
And that was very true in my story, is that

922
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,719
you know, the universe was gently trying to nudge me

923
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,760
in a direction and show me signs of the things

924
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,880
that weren't aligned. But I just ignored it. But it

925
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,800
will come to a critical mass point where it's just

926
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,920
going to be cleared anyway. So I think your timeline

927
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,679
will always be corrected no matter what you know. It's

928
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,000
just up to you. Do you want to do the

929
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:51,840
software or do you want to do it like full

930
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,880
rug pulled from under you the hard way. Either way

931
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,960
you will end up in the right place and learn

932
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,800
in the same lessons.

933
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:00,119
Speaker 1: One question I meant to ask you earlier. Did you

934
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,679
find it hard to like completely pivot the type of

935
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:05,800
content you were talking about, like going from fashion lifestyle

936
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,079
to now we're talking about past life hypnosis and spiritual stuff.

937
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely so difficult, so scary, really scary. Also when it's

938
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,639
so tied to my work and commercial commerciality is that

939
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:19,000
a word?

940
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that you're making money for? Yeah?

941
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: True, And like you know, it's a weird topic. I

942
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:27,159
also only upen to really recently have felt like I

943
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,280
found my voice in it, I want to say, even

944
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,360
in the last few weeks. But it's a practice. You know,

945
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,519
when you're practicing a new identity, you're kind of chipping

946
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:38,159
away you're trying these little things. Some of them don't work,

947
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:40,760
some of them resonate, some of them make you want

948
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,480
to crawl into a hole and just never see anyone again.

949
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,559
But I did find the transition difficult. Now I don't care,

950
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:48,920
but at the start, you know, when you do see

951
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,360
followers dropping off and they're not interested in the stuff

952
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,159
you're talking about anymore, you do get a bit of

953
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:56,719
a and it's me very much, very libra of me.

954
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,880
I not anymore. But again, up until recently had a

955
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:01,920
real I just wanted to be on everyone's good.

956
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: Side, you know.

957
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: I just like the classic just people pleaser kind of energy.

958
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,320
So now I'm like in a really good place. And

959
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,960
I think as well, when you get to that place,

960
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,960
people really believe it. They can feel the power from it.

961
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:16,599
So I think since I've come into that, the new

962
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:19,639
audiences are finding me and it's okay to like go

963
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,119
of the old ones. But it's it's just one of

964
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,920
those things. Just you do feel that panic a little bit.

965
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,519
But yeah, and no identity is just something you have

966
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:29,239
to keep practicing. I think until it fully kind of

967
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,039
you know, settles.

968
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: This is good to hear because I feel like, even

969
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,440
though I'm still an astrologer, and like posting astrology content,

970
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:37,599
I kind of feel like I'm pivoting away from what

971
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:41,239
I used to do, kind of like quick attention grabbing. Yeah,

972
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,480
this is what your moon sign means. Two more like

973
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:44,519
wanting to go and dub.

974
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and which I've noticed in your content is

975
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:47,559
so cool.

976
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. But since like I'm losing people, they

977
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:52,280
are just kind of like that quick stuff and it

978
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,079
makes me nervous, like, oh, I'm not giving people what

979
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:55,199
they want place.

980
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: But it's just about finding that new audience and like

981
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,320
letting the energetic frequency kind of just magnetize. But it's again,

982
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,079
it's a leap of faith that's asking you to do

983
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:05,679
something that doesn't feel that good.

984
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, for a payoff.

985
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: Down the line. It's a bit like paying your chowes.

986
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think, what's really cool that you

987
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:14,320
created last year and sent me these your conscious clarity

988
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,960
card decks. I don't have any today, but you know

989
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,000
it's fine. Yeah, I wanted the deck last night just

990
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,599
to be like, okay, what is my intwition telling? Yeah,

991
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:25,320
but what I love about this is so different from

992
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,280
like a tarot card deck, where like you would have

993
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,559
to do a spread with Tero, and then I would

994
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:32,440
have to google what does the Emperor card mean whatever?

995
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,559
With this, you write out the whole description and it's

996
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:38,679
kind of just meant to be like a single card,

997
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,400
right that.

998
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: You can do a whole spread. It's actually made to

999
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,239
be used intuitively. The little book at the start, it's total.

1000
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,760
It's just, you know, it instructs total flexibility. I see

1001
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,440
people posting and they're posting like five or six cards.

1002
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,360
I would never put five or six cards for myself,

1003
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,199
but they love it. So it was really because I'm

1004
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,159
a really flexible systems type person. I don't like rigidity.

1005
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:04,440
I like people to play and be creative. And yeah,

1006
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,719
I found in my own sort of divination journey, I

1007
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,480
really love cards. But again when I told you, I

1008
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:14,039
find it behind the scenes. I have looked at my

1009
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:18,480
chart so many times. I just don't retain information certain

1010
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:22,400
certain ways. I will never ever remember certain important placements.

1011
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:26,159
And I feel like I'm the same with Taro. I

1012
00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:29,320
could be playing with Taro for years and still not

1013
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:33,960
have Taro learned off. And it kind of just began

1014
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:37,400
to be clear to me, was that my learning those

1015
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,639
sort of classic interpretations wasn't important to me, and I

1016
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,440
also didn't want to. I already know my situation. I

1017
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,400
don't need a card to validify the things that are

1018
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,880
already going on in my life. I kind of want

1019
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,880
to know how I should move forward, how should I

1020
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,320
should I work with this energy. So I had the

1021
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,880
idea of doing cards for about five years, but I

1022
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,599
think maybe after my hypnosis journey started and sort of

1023
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:00,360
seeing you know, I was kind of the dead, made

1024
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,119
a taro girl in my friendship group, and I saw

1025
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:05,199
that they would kind of come to me, and I

1026
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,519
just felt like, I would love for you to be

1027
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:08,960
able to do these for yourself. Yeah, So that's kind

1028
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,119
of how conscious Charity started. It was just how do

1029
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:15,039
I make something accessible and just also new and fresh,

1030
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:17,920
like not an affirmation card deck, not an angel messages deck,

1031
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:19,960
not a tire deck, but also all of those three

1032
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,760
things together in one. Yeah, but that's also to the

1033
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,920
to the point, to the point your message is there.

1034
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:29,159
You don't have to decode any symbols and things like that, so.

1035
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: It's not something you're like fixated on either. Let's validate

1036
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:32,960
these few. Yeah.

1037
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,599
Speaker 2: I didn't want it to be pretentious either, because I

1038
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:36,400
think there is a little bit of a pretentious thing

1039
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,239
with Taro, like all of the things I know, and

1040
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,559
I wanted it to be super accessible for the absolute

1041
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:43,800
normal person to use.

1042
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:46,199
Speaker 1: It's so accurate too. Like last night, I was having

1043
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,360
a freak out, just like because I'm having a baby

1044
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,519
in like four months, and I was like, I don't know.

1045
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:51,840
It all hit me and I was like, I am

1046
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,280
gonna have to be postpartum and have a child I'm

1047
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,039
taking care of and I don't know what I'm doing.

1048
00:47:56,519 --> 00:47:59,199
And I was like, wait, I'm interviewing tier tomorrow. Let

1049
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,679
me just pull one of these. You gets the fool

1050
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:04,920
And it was oh my god, literally to ignore the

1051
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,480
fear and like be open to different possibilities and be

1052
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:11,079
confident in yourself. And I was like, that applies to

1053
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,920
exactly what I was just freaking out.

1054
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: And I had a friend as well that I met

1055
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,679
at the event and I know her, but she's pregnant

1056
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,480
and she pulled the portal carriage and I was like,

1057
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:23,559
WHOA hilarious, so good because obviously boom space, portal birth,

1058
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:26,039
all of the things, so that makes so much sense,

1059
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:28,320
you know, just is that's how what I designed them for,

1060
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,000
just to cut quite down the fear and just you know,

1061
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:34,719
have a little bit of affirmation of just you know,

1062
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,360
you're supported, even when you don't feel that you're supported.

1063
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to have them out when people come over.

1064
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: They're They're great for little get together.

1065
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. One other thing I've noticed you created is like

1066
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,039
a whole Instagram profile called modern Mystic, And this is

1067
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:51,119
around the community that you do your events with.

1068
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, so I actually have kind of pivoted just

1069
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,679
posting everything on my regular am A timer. I like

1070
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,000
that it's this is me again. It's kind of a

1071
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:03,719
funny story, you know. It's like I for a minute,

1072
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,480
I wasn't confident. I was just like, oh, I'm gonna

1073
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,639
have to have separate identities.

1074
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1075
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: And I don't know if the astrology says anything about

1076
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,599
the times we're moving in, but I think it's very

1077
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:15,320
reflective of that sort of fully embodied energy that we're

1078
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,159
all moving into and just owning who you are, no

1079
00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:22,320
one hundred percent blag and just like you know, I think, yeah, this.

1080
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Is Aquarius and Okay, I'm my own individual, like or

1081
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,639
leave it.

1082
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1083
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:29,639
Speaker 1: Also, but also that like thing of forming community but

1084
00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:33,559
like not wanting to conform absolutely with Pluto and Aquarius

1085
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:37,440
and now Aquarius Clipse isn't Aquarius? Yeah, it's interesting, like

1086
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,119
I'm an Aquarius son, you have Aquarious. It's just kind

1087
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:41,679
of like we're embodying.

1088
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: That a bit more definitely. Yeah, isn't it the age

1089
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,960
of Aquarius Now? Is that like a supportive thing for

1090
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:48,360
us or is it just more so its own.

1091
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:50,079
Speaker 1: Thing, that's like its own thing. It's not going to

1092
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:52,880
tied to astrology so much people get. It's more kind

1093
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,880
of an ear thing, isn't it. Yeah, it's like hundreds

1094
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,119
of years of I'm actually not well versed in what

1095
00:49:59,159 --> 00:49:59,840
it means.

1096
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: But time I think it's very tight, and I think

1097
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,159
it's from what I know. I think it's very tight

1098
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:07,199
into just what's all becoming so interested in this stuff

1099
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:08,559
and it becoming so mainstream.

1100
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your favorite part about what you do?

1101
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: The favorite part of what I do is just I

1102
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,199
think like the connections and just the opportunities that you

1103
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,320
get that you just would have never have seen coming.

1104
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:22,199
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1105
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: I think I'm super surrendered at the moment and kind

1106
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,519
of a recovering control freak. So it's nice to just

1107
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,599
live life much more presently and sort of let the

1108
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:35,559
universe kind of show me where I want to go.

1109
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,280
So life feels very good in that sense. But yeah,

1110
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,480
I guess if I was to round it all up together,

1111
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,800
I think the best bit about it all is that

1112
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,119
I just feel super embodied. That I feel like I'm

1113
00:50:47,159 --> 00:50:49,960
doing what I'm supposed to be doing now and I'm

1114
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,360
not sort of ignoring any parts of myself, and it's

1115
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,480
being really well received, and I think that that's been

1116
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,440
a really special reward for it all.

1117
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. What are you are you working on?

1118
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,000
Like stuff in the future you mentioned like helping people

1119
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,719
do the regression themselves.

1120
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm thinking of maybe doing more sort of like

1121
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,519
pieces of accessible online content, not like super corsy stuff,

1122
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:15,719
but like these one off either live events that are

1123
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,480
also recorded, or just because I do feel like there's stuff.

1124
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,079
Modernistic is sort of an overview where I give people

1125
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,480
a lot in that event, but there's subtopics within that

1126
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,440
that I'd love for them to have their own sort

1127
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,840
of offering or their own sort of place where people

1128
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,000
can learn from me, you know, just literally just learn

1129
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:35,800
from me. So I think it's about finding more ways

1130
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,760
to share what I know and give it to people

1131
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,679
that want it because I'm seeing so many healers come

1132
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,559
online recently, so so many people are being called like

1133
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:50,599
the holistic spaces, and I don't think that's an accident.

1134
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,559
I think that there's need for healing in the world,

1135
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:54,679
so I think therefore the natural response of the universe

1136
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,880
is to create more healers. So I'm really interested in

1137
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,679
guiding those kind of people as well. So yeah, that's

1138
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,480
kind of I think what I have d in the pipeline.

1139
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: It's also just on that point of more healers. It's

1140
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,440
interesting how you were a certain age and you're like, oh,

1141
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,239
a path that I thought would bring me fulfillment, Like

1142
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,440
maybe for both of us that was fashion like isn't

1143
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,079
really working anymore? What else is there?

1144
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:18,039
Speaker 2: Totally? But you can see it now a lot of

1145
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:21,599
old paradigm jobs are just kind of falling away. Yeah,

1146
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:24,760
And I think if you were kind of lucky enough

1147
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,920
to see it falling away from quite a few years back,

1148
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,280
I think we were feeling it intuitively, like it's not aligned.

1149
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,119
Speaker 1: Exactly, and we didn't know it was going to disappear,

1150
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:34,280
but we.

1151
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: Didn't know why it wasn't aligned, because on paper it

1152
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,800
should have been aligned. But I think now we're seeing

1153
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,639
like the payoff of taking those leaps of faith at

1154
00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:43,000
the time.

1155
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: That goes back to the intuition stuff, Like I love

1156
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,519
how it's like it's telling me something in the moment,

1157
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:50,719
but it's not going to be revealed why until maybe

1158
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,440
years from now?

1159
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:53,679
Speaker 2: No, because where with the fun bait. Yeah, they don't

1160
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:56,079
want to hand you stuff in a silver pattern. But

1161
00:52:56,599 --> 00:52:58,639
you know, I had a client once who described like

1162
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:01,280
what the higher self is like, and it was we

1163
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,599
both laughed like during the hypnosis because it was funny.

1164
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:05,599
But she's like, I don't even watch Star Wars, but

1165
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:09,960
it's like having a Yoda inside. And that's exactly what's happened.

1166
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:12,440
It's somebody that or a part of you that is

1167
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,400
giving you intuitive information about just a few steps ahead.

1168
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,239
But it doesn't want to do the work for you,

1169
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:21,639
and it doesn't want to tell you the whole picture.

1170
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,880
It wants you to have the experience of being a

1171
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,599
human and to collect all of this knowledge and experience,

1172
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,280
you know, so the universe can experience itself for you.

1173
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Well, it's so good talking to you.

1174
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:35,800
Where can everyone find you?

1175
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: Oh? I'm at Turmers on Instagram. I'm armor on YouTube,

1176
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:44,679
but yeah, everything is like a link to my bio

1177
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,760
and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, hopefully you'll

1178
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,559
come and hang out and learn some things.

1179
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,559
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what happens with you with the

1180
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:51,559
Aquarius eclipses.

1181
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: Oh God, what should I expect?

1182
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: Good things?

1183
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,039
Speaker 2: Okay, wonderful? I needs absolutely. Yeah, we're in the trenches

1184
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:00,280
here recently, so I need some ups swing.

1185
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, thank you so thank I appreciate it.

1186
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,199
Speaker 2: Thank m HM