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<v Speaker 1>There was a place and time where you thought Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Bregman was an automatic going back to Houston. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't after the trade that sent Kyle Tucker to

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<v Speaker 1>the Cubs for Escoc Paradis and more, and the belief

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<v Speaker 1>was Paradis was going to start at.

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<v Speaker 2>Third base for Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he actually taking advantage of that short portion

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<v Speaker 1>and left would be ideal for a guy like Escoc

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<v Speaker 1>Paradis anyway, And I don't think the greatest third fielding

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<v Speaker 1>third baseman, he's sure as hell, isn't a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an Alex Bregman four and a half war type of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, Houston trying to save some money and

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<v Speaker 1>doing what they feel like they had to do in

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<v Speaker 1>order for them to compete in the Al West. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a situation where they trade Ryan Presling, free

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit of money, and you think, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>now they're back in the Bregman sweepstakes. Dana Brown. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>it was left open by Joe a spot up right

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<v Speaker 1>on the Houston staff, Dana Brown, their general manager, said

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<v Speaker 1>during his annual media luncheon. He said this about Alex Bregman.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, in so many words that it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. He mentioned twice about Bregman in past tents,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that once the team had lost you know, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>once the team had lost Bregman, it appears that they've

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<v Speaker 1>decided to move on. That's the inference you get. And

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<v Speaker 1>if that is the case, a guy who helped them

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<v Speaker 1>win two World Series title, won a Gold Glove, silver slugger,

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<v Speaker 1>two ball Stars, all these other things, where.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they go for them? But more importantly, where does

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<v Speaker 2>he go?

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<v Speaker 1>The latest revelation is that the Boston Red Sox have

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<v Speaker 1>talked with Saint Louis about acquiring Nolan Arnado.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you read.

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<v Speaker 1>Those tea leaves, if you're into a certain way that

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<v Speaker 1>general managers talk about players in past tense, if you

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<v Speaker 1>see that, you know, Boston's a team that might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to acquire and upgrade in a certain position without Bregman.

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<v Speaker 1>That leaves really just three teams, allegedly three teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bregman sweepstakes. It would be Toronto, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>the Cubs, ironically enough, and it would be the Tigers.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel a little bit better about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting about that is that Boston and some people

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know, turn their nose up at Bregman

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<v Speaker 1>possibly going to the Red Sox because they already have

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<v Speaker 1>a third baseman, Rafael Devers, who I like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>as an offensive player, don't like him as a defensive player.

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<v Speaker 1>Does his offense outweigh his poor defense? Probably? Probably? It's

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<v Speaker 1>been good enough for Boston, But Bregman could play second

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<v Speaker 1>base there. He's willing to move, and he could play

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<v Speaker 1>second base anywhere, right, he could mean Nico Horner with

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<v Speaker 1>the Cubs. As at second base, you'd probably put Bregman

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<v Speaker 1>at third there. Toronto, you'd play him at third for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>or second, but probably third. So Detroit definitely third. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love him at either place because I'm not a big

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<v Speaker 1>glabor tourist guy. But Bregman's numbers, you know. There was

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<v Speaker 1>an article yesterday from ESPN, I believe, but breaking down

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<v Speaker 1>the concerns that they have for him one and this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of validates what you and I have talked about

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<v Speaker 1>during this entire free aage in process on whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not he's the right fit for the Tigers. Does he

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<v Speaker 1>make them better? You damn right?

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<v Speaker 2>He does?

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<v Speaker 1>Defensively for sure. Offensively, yes, doesn't mean that I want

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<v Speaker 1>him on a long term deal. I've gone over that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to rehash it. But knowing that he

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<v Speaker 1>turns thirty one next month, a little bit of an

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<v Speaker 1>issue from a contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Standpoint, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Because let's face it, it is a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>young man's game. But last year, again, as I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the show, he's a four point one war

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<v Speaker 1>that's an All Star. That's something the Tigers need, is

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<v Speaker 1>something they haven't had in a long time, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a concern there the offense for his games

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<v Speaker 1>or for his season. Back in twenty nineteen, they bring

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<v Speaker 1>up he drew a league leading one hundred and nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>walks and struck out seventeen percent of the time. That

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<v Speaker 1>has plummeted. The walk rate now at six point nine percent,

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<v Speaker 1>a career low. Three to one P five on base

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<v Speaker 1>percentage last year. Hard hit ball rate not good, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Slugging okay, average eh, People can go past that nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't even look at batting average as much

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<v Speaker 1>as they used to. Some people do, but most people

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball are looking at ops on baseball, slugging, slugging

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<v Speaker 1>and OBP on base percent and if your numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>going down, it's a bit of a red flag. And lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the gold glove surgery after the season to remove

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<v Speaker 1>bone chips from his elbow, I don't think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the second coming of Butch Hobson. Butch Hobson

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<v Speaker 1>was a former third basement for Boston, had bone chips

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<v Speaker 1>in his elbow, all kinds of problems and long lasting.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise a pretty good player. But perhaps it's a perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thing. Perhaps it's team doctors looking at him

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<v Speaker 1>going m this is a red flag. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I would necessarily not pass the physical, but I'd take

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<v Speaker 1>a long shot at him, and that could be a

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<v Speaker 1>problem for people too. So we'll see, we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens with it. But there's not many guys whose war

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<v Speaker 1>goes up okay as they get older. Justin Turner is

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a freak in that regard his war.

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<v Speaker 1>His wins above replacement averaged four point eight from the

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<v Speaker 1>time he was thirty one to the time he was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four to thirty five. Don't think that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen with Alex Bregman. I think the numbers go down.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to the phone lines the Meyer Hotline eight

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six eight three, eight forty eight forty three, and

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<v Speaker 1>Meyer brings you this hour of Exus and Bros. Who

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<v Speaker 1>do we got.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Mark, yesterday's chef.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about rivalries and sports and he just

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<v Speaker 1>wants to call back on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Hey Mark, Hey, good morning, chef. Yeah, you were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about Michigan State. Michigan. I'm looking forward to they

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<v Speaker 3>still got both their games coming up, correct, correct, Yeah, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>On the inside of the state. It was a few

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<v Speaker 3>years back we had Sports Illustrated do the top twenty

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<v Speaker 3>rivalries in the country, and they had number seventeen. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was with Hope and Calvin and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if you've ever heard of that that rivalry. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure you probably have the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bats for sure. Yeah and my double A yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they do. They draw quite a crowd and

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<v Speaker 3>they have to turn people away on that. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking forward to the Tigers this year. I think their

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<v Speaker 3>pitching staff is going to be awesome. Do you think

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<v Speaker 3>that we'll ever get a no hitter or two out

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<v Speaker 3>of that team this year?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about a no hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are tough to come by, but I quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter to me. What matters most to me

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<v Speaker 1>is you know whether those guys can go deeper into games,

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<v Speaker 1>stay healthy all season long, and give their team a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what matters most to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you look at low scoring this year, do you

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<v Speaker 3>think we're going to score some runs?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to have a hard time putting

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<v Speaker 1>to There's a number of There's a three players, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, man, maybe four four players who I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see if their numbers will continue to rise.

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<v Speaker 1>Riley Green, Parker Meadows, Cole Keith, and Kerry Carpenter. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Kerrie Carpenter, are they going to strictly use him as

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<v Speaker 1>a designated hitter? That's tough to do at that age.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll get a little bit of time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in right field. It'll be interesting what happens with wensil

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<v Speaker 1>Perez because of the crowded outfield mix.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's see what those guys do.

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<v Speaker 1>If they take that proverbial next step, then I think

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit is going to be in really good shape. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is they're all left handed hitters. They need a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more punch from the right side.

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<v Speaker 3>You think Spencer's going to come back? I got to

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<v Speaker 3>drop off. I want to hear your all one.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Tiger's biggest rival, the Tiger's biggest rivalry. Who do

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<v Speaker 3>you think that is? And I'm wondering if you think

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<v Speaker 3>Spencer's going to come back this year with a good bat,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll talk about you later.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Okay, thank you. I hope Spencer Torkolsen does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to require a big spring, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>spring training is it's for players who need to win jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't even even if he has a great spring,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I think Cole Keith is going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a really good spring too. What happens if they

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<v Speaker 1>both have great springs and Labor Torres has a creddi one,

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is going to happen? You think

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly they move Cole Keith from first base bat to

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<v Speaker 1>second base. I think they've made their decision. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Torkosen is going to have to make this team

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<v Speaker 1>as an extra guy, and I think a guy like him,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard because if you're not getting a lot of AB's.

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<v Speaker 2>He's that type of player.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I know you'll probably say plenty of AB's last

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<v Speaker 1>year cheap, but he didn't do squad. Yep, you're right

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent about that. But I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy you can just use as your pinch hitter

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<v Speaker 1>and your your spots starter. I think it's too kind

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<v Speaker 1>of up and down with him, and you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>ride those those waves. I'm not saying you should. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just telling you. You asked the question, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to bounce back? I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be hard for him to bounce back if he's not

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<v Speaker 1>playing on a regular basis, And you've got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Earn that, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to earn your way into a lineup in

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<v Speaker 1>baseball in most situations. So that's number one. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as this team scoring a lot of runs, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot depends on some of those young guys

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<v Speaker 1>that I've mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am worried about the lack of power from

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<v Speaker 2>the right side.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're all you're doing is counting on the

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<v Speaker 1>labor torres for that and an occasional bomb from Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers what had a career high at Homer's last year,

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<v Speaker 1>But he's not one of those guys that pitchers shiver

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<v Speaker 1>when they're on the mound. So your right eyes think

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<v Speaker 1>about your right handed hitters in the lineup right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Ververling, how your bias labor, Torres, Jake Rogers. Three

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<v Speaker 1>of the four have something in common. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about? Torres bias and Rogers do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of what striking out, swinging and missing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of swing myths there. So I think that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>believe a lot of people. I think it's the name

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost for fans. But it makes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sense for Detroit to continue the pursuit of a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like Bregman. You already know my feeling about it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not going to rehash it in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>whether they should go get him and whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>it should be a long term deal.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how I feel about that, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>But.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy like this, if you got the pre twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four version where he's getting on base a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>he's taking more walks, you know I should the money

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<v Speaker 1>matter all that much. Detroit ranked what twenty eighth the

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<v Speaker 1>payroll last year. Had they done anything this year to

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<v Speaker 1>make them go up exponentially, a one year fifteen million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar deal by Alex Cobb, a one year fifteen million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar deal by Labor Torres, a one year seven point

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five million dollar deal that went to Tommy Kinley,

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<v Speaker 1>and a twenty five million dollar deal for Jack Flaherty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's thirty six overall, but it's twenty five this coming

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<v Speaker 1>season with a ninety I think their end of the

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<v Speaker 1>year payroll was ninety six ninety eight million dollars, So

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<v Speaker 1>have they really added to it exponentially? That makes you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we're getting pretty close to that threshold.

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<v Speaker 1>The answer to that would be no, all right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot higher than it was a year ago

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<v Speaker 1>when they first started the season, And to me, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the time to spend, but not spend unwisely. Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>third baseman, do you know what they hit last year?

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<v Speaker 1>The guy's moving in and out of that position.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what they hit? What to thirty four? I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to guess two twenty five, so I lowball them.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you how many homers they hit? Twelve eleven, eleven?

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<v Speaker 2>How many were I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people feel like certain positions you got to

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<v Speaker 1>have power. But that was the old cliche, the belief

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<v Speaker 1>growing your power has got to come from third base

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<v Speaker 1>and first base, and you want your corner outfielders to

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<v Speaker 1>have pop as well. You'd love it if your catcher did.

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit's catcher's got some, but not enough, I think to

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<v Speaker 1>scare many pitchers. If that's the case, there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pop in the lineup.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's how you define it. I mean Riley Green.

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<v Speaker 1>How many homers do you think you're gonna get out

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<v Speaker 1>of him?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty to twenty four? Twenty five? Good?

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, man. I love Riley Green. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>right field, whether it be Vererling or maybe Carpenter. Carpenter

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<v Speaker 1>can give you thirty Yeah, that would be great, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna be playing right field. He's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>more of a DH.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe one series, is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 2>First base? Yeah, what's that? Wants a series? You think

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<v Speaker 2>they'll put Carpenter on right?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it depends on pitching matchups. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>aj Hinch goes by x amount of starts per series.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I know that's what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about the matchups. Third base is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be veling again again. Career high in homers last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but not a ton right first base. How many homers

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<v Speaker 1>for Cole Keith? What do you project him being as

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<v Speaker 1>do you project him to be a big home run

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<v Speaker 1>hitting guy? And maybe power is not just home runs

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<v Speaker 1>either extra bases. It's driving in runs and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Good hitters they could do that right. You don't always

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<v Speaker 1>have to leave the yard, but you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>that threat of doing just that if those are your

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<v Speaker 1>power positions. Try doesn't have a lot of power in

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<v Speaker 1>that regard. Bregman would add something to it.