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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast.

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Very excited today because we have a guest who our

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audience is going to be real familiar with. They've seen

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us play clips of Aaron Mullin on our show. She

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is a former Sky News TV host, radio host and columnist,

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and now, of course she has her incredible podcast, The

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Aaron Mullin Show. And just like us, you cover political

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you cover cultural news stories, you feature amazing guests, including

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the son of Hamas leader Mosab Hassan Yusef, and you,

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just like us, are a strong supporter of Israel, and

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you speak about that support often. So we wanted to

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ask you, first and foremost, what prompted you, as a

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Roman Catholic to speak out so strongly for the Jewish people.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, first of all, so very much for

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having me on your show. I'm such a big fan,

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and yeah, without sounding silly, I've been so excited to

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do this and I just think you girls are absolutely amazing,

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So thank you, Thank you so much for having me

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on Israel. It's such a I mean, the question itself

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is so ridiculous in so many ways, given how obvious

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it was to me. Yet there's a reason you have

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to ask it, because you could count on one hand

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essentially the number of us who stood staunchly alongside this

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nation post October seven, particularly, and that is mind blowing

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to me. I was a TV host who hosted a show,

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an opinion show. It was called Errand So it was

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a show in my opinion, and it was my job

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to tell people what I thought, not just about things

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happening domestically in Australia, but internationally globally, you know, world

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events essentially. So I got on my show and I

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did exactly that. And it wasn't kind of a period

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prior where I sat down and thought, now let me

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write a list a mask Israel. I mean, you know,

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it was so obvious to me who was evil and

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who was good. And when I say good, that doesn't

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infer perfection, that doesn't infer the government's made every decision right,

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you know, the obvious with when you say anyone is

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a good person, you're not inferring that they are without flaws.

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But it was very obvious to me where I stood.

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So I went on my TV show and absolutely condemned

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the atrocities of that day and stood staunchly alongside the

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nation that was the victim of those atrocities and the reaction.

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I couldn't have picked it in a million years, and

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I'd had my doubts about certain sections of Australian society

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and global society, but to see it kind of come

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out in the most terrific of ways in terms of

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just this evil, angry, threatening response was just, you know,

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really terrified me. But I was used to that in

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some ways, ladies, in that I've been in the public

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eye for twenty years. I was the first woman to

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host different sporting events and football and rugby in Australia,

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so you know, people get fired up about that. But

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those people were the ones in Mummy's basement that would

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never have followed through the people in this space that

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sends you kind of things. You think, Okay, this is

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an ideology and this is something that you may follow

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through with. So it was very confronting, but of course,

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as you would have done, I have no doubt, and

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as you did. The next week, I got up and

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I went harder because I think the reaction almost terrified

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me more than the events themselves. And I looked at

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the Sydney Opera House two days after prior to one

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IDF boot hitting in the ground in Gaza, so absolutely

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no element of care for the people of Gaza. At

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that rally, it was pure Jew Israel hatred, calling for

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the deaths of more Jews. It was utterly abhorred, and

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the reaction of our country was I mean, I'm a

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very proud Australian. My dad was a major general, was

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a senator, I'm a huge patriot as you call it

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in America.

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Speaker 3: But that was the first time I felt shame at

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my country.

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Speaker 2: Not so much what that small group of people did,

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because you're going to have pockets of people that are

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like that in every country. You'll never entirely rid yourselves

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of them. It was a reaction of the masses, the

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silence of my fellow Australians that terrified me. And that's

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when I thought, we've got a problem. We've got a

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real problem.

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Speaker 4: And it seems obvious. Like you say, it's obvious to you,

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it's obvious, as why is it obvious to other people?

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crowd like they're afraid a lot of these people or me,

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because listen, I know a lot of them are full

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of hate, which is crazy to me, Like there's a

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reason for that, but then there's also a reason for

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people just being silent too. So I'm just I'm dumbfounded

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a lot of times, but I'm just okay, people doing

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what are you doing? What is what's going on?

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting, isn't it? And I am, like a

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lot of politicians, I'm really good at pointing out the problem.

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But don't ask me for a solution.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you figure it out. I mean, just

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talk about the things that are wrong.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's multi pronged in this, and I

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in some ways I think less of them believe it,

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and less of them are evil, and less of them

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subscribe to terrorist ideologies. But I feel like, look at

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the way we raise kids, look at what our vucation

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system does, Look at what we teach kids, which is

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that we are evil, We are racist, we are colonizers,

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don't have pride in who and what we are.

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Speaker 3: We're bad people.

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Speaker 2: So how could you expect anyone to feel pride in

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anything or to push back or you know, we've ruined

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generations of kids with this woke ideology that says to them,

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this country's people are predominantly one race or one color

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the other country, even though they have a lot of

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people of that similar race and color, also have some

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white people. So they're the bad people. So jump on board.

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And we don't give our kids purpose, you know, and

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the only purpose we give them is to dislike who

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we are and to not have pride. I think there's

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so many different issues. I think most just don't have capacity.

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and that's there are the malicious, evil ones who subscribe

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to this ideology. You'll never win them over, you don't

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want them. They're dangerous, A very small group. I look

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at the rest and I think, you know, I'm a

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single mom in her forties, very very low forties, soties.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I really want thank you.

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Speaker 2: But what I do when I'm talking to people and

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doing my videos and my show is I'm trying to

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reach that single mom who's you know, forty five, three kids,

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no capacity to do what I do every day, which

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is look into it, speak to people, research, look at

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multiple sources. She's getting her news from the six pm

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news every night, if that, if she's not doing a

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night shift, or she's not dealing with something with the kids,

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her husband's an asshole. It's a lack of capacity to

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look deeper when mainstream media is not doing their job,

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which is just giving people facts. We've now got mainstream

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media that is feeding people her musk talking points. So

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I look at a country that it's the highest rating

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program in the country, six PM News, and one of

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the headlines was during the hostage prisoner exchange and the

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way that they had framed this again the number one

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news program in the country. So most Australians who are

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not invested or engaged watch these and it frames their

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narrative and it was something to the effect of a

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man on his brother's shoulders, tears flowing, and the reporter's

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words the voiceover was a family reunion decades in the making.

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The guy's crying, the mom's crying. You know, this man

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was kept in prison for ten years, didn't see his children.

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The kids are crying, everyone's crying, mother's crying. You're at home,

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everyone's crying because this is so sad. How could Israel

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keep this guy away from his family. They don't tell

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you he blew up a bus and killed kids, you know,

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and then it's oh, and some other prisoners were swapped out,

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and then you see the Israeli hostages, and you go,

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they are not prisoners. There is no moral equivalence between

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the two. But suddenly, and you know, you can't argue

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it wasn't actually incorrect in that it was a family

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reunion decades in the making. His kids were crying, his

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mother was crying. But you got to tell people why

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this blake was in a prison or the empathy naturally

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lays and fools with them, and they were the Palestinians.

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feeding that drivel out to people.

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Speaker 1: One of the I mean when you had the son

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of that Hammas leader on your show, that was actually

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one of the clips that we played of you becoming

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so emotional, and I mean we were too watching it

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because we you could just feel how deeply you feel

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about this issue, and I know speaking with him really

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brought that out, because you know, of all people to

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be on the right side, you would not expect it

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to be from the son of.

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Speaker 4: A Hammas leader.

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Speaker 1: Talk about that moment if you would and just tell

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us where your head was when you were listening to him.

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Speaker 3: That's actually and thank you.

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Speaker 2: I have never been asked about that moment, and I

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I don't know if people actually really understand what my

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pain was about. And I've never spoken about it because

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it's a personal pain, as in I look at the

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world and how much tragedy in trauma, and the reason

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I was so upset feels very selfish and petty, and

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it was more just about my own experience. And I'll

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explain that to you in that he's phenomenal and to

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have someone who is part of building this up, who

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knows it inside and out, who says that what we

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all say is absolutely spot on, and there's nothing to

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gain for him. He only loses out of this in

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so many ways, apart from the ways you know that

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really matter, which is you're doing the right thing and

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you go to bed at night knowing that you're on

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the right side of history, but in terms of lifestyle

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and money and not having your life threatened every day,

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he's losing out of this, but he's willing to do it.

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past year, the past two years, and I'm someone that

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previously was someone in this country that you know, I

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felt very loved and respected. I had always been, you know,

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radio host. I'd done so much for charity over so

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many years. I was renowned for doing too much. You know,

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my bosses at Channel nine will get annoyed with me

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Speaker 2: So I'd have you know, twenty two charities in my

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bio because but little Bobby couldn't go without my support.

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I have more empathy than I know what to do with.

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seen happen over the last couple of years is this

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sudden categorization of me is some kind of extremist, some nutcase,

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some awful baby killer, someone who doesn't care, someone who

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you know, things that and believe you me, I block

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it all out. I genuinely couldn't care less most of

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the time. But I think at that moment, just having

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reassurance from him that I wasn't the things that some

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people say that I am and all the other stuff. Again,

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I'm so used to this unbattle hardened in this space.

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you know, I never stop and say, oh God, I'm

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so sad that pr companies don't send me gifts anymore.

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no one sends me product anymore because they're terrified I'll

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tag them on Instagram. And I know it's not a

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big deal, and it's not, but there's a part of

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me that that also just and friends that I used

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to have who don't want to be seen with me,

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and and you know, companies they used to work for

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that that cut me off because all of a sudden,

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I stand against terror alongside a group of innocent people

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who are the victims of that terror, and I just

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but it's so ridiculous. And even you know, I did

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a magazine cover here and a couple of the feminists

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pro Palestinians just went so hard at every makeup artist

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who'd you know, done a lick of foundation on my

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cheek or and tried to destroy them all. And so

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then the company panicked and pulled it down. And I'm

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just they're going tell me one thing I've ever said

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that it's controversial, but they buckled and anyway, it was

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all these things that just I think hit me at

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just a mainstream reaction, and I think so for me,

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and it's lonely, it can be really lonely, you know.

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I've this space is really lonely sometimes, and I think

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you go through phases. But there's no doubt in my

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mind that what I stand from, what I fight for

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is one hundred percent right. It is one hundred percent true.

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What I say is one hundred percent true, and I

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will stand by that forever. But there are times that

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I've really difficult, and there are times when I look

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at my little girl and I know that what I

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do puts her in danger. And there are times when

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I look at my life and you know, I'm single,

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and I've been single this year, first time ever, and

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it's been heaven. It's been the greatest existence of my life.

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But there's also a part of me that looks back

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to the life that I had and a lot of

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the changes are due to this space, and I just,

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you know, I think it was a culmination of emotions

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that came out in that moment because I just thought,

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there's no one more qualified when I feel a little

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bit low to think about if it's getting to me

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a little bit to think, no, no, you're good, you

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are right, and the hordes of noises and the assholes

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and the you know, the mob who tried to chante

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otherwise and try to convince others otherwise don't matter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and your daughter is going to grow up one

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day and know that you were right and that you did.

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I think that was that was worth it. You fought

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you were one of the strong lives me, you know,

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and pro Palestinian women are not feminists.

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Speaker 5: Hello, like a fact, and listen, I command you feminists, right,

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And I totally I commend you because I could not

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do what we do every day if I didn't have

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her to bounce things off.

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Speaker 4: Quit this a long time ago, So I do commend you.

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Doing it alone is tough. It's really tough. This is

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a tough space, especially for right because you get beat

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up and it really is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you also and I say that, and I've

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said I've never shared that particular bit just because you know,

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I'm definitely not a victim, and I choose this space,

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and I love this space so much. I feel like

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what we do is making a difference. I feel like

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it's helping to build a better world for my little girl,

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for your kids, for everyone, for everyone's kids. It's the irony,

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including Muslim kids in Gaza, for everyone. You know, you

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can't fix the situation, and if you're lying about why

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it exists, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I know you.

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Speaker 1: I could see there was a video I saw of you,

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like in the wake of the terrorist attack in Australia

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on the first day of Hanukkah, and you were fairly

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close to that if I'm not mistaken, and I know

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you have, I could see you going through those same

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thoughts in your head about your daughter and whether what

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you do puts her in danger. I mean, like you,

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you were very raw in that video, like in the

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immediate aftermath. So how close were you to the actual

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attack and has there been any shift in that tone

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that you have felt that you describe in Australia since,

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I mean, has that changed people's perspective at all?

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Speaker 3: Look, it's a great question.

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Speaker 2: I think yes and no, which I know is not

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an overly telling answer, but I'll explain what I mean

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to you.

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Speaker 3: For Sata is very close.

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Speaker 2: So we heard the gunshots on the balcony here where

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I live, and this is the kind of thing that

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just doesn't happen in Australia. But there was not one

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part of me that felt surprise, shock. Absolutely, But this

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has been coming and coming and coming, and we have

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been screaming from the rooftops regarding this issue since October nine,

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since the Opera House, because not one area that had

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any power to act, to act as a deterrent to

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punish someone who was there, and not for free speech

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that was not free speech. Hate speech is illegal in

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this country. Calling for harm to others is illegal in

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this country. Not one person at the Opera House faced

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or suffered a consequence off the back of that. And

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I know, I mean, you look at history. If people

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aren't stopped early on, it leads to things like what

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we saw in Bondai. And we've just had weak leadership.

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one hundred thousand people marching across that purporting to be

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you know, humanitarian fighters with a bloody poster of you know,

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a terrorist that murdered ten thousand people, or the flag

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of Isis or al kaider, you know, posters and slogans

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death to Jews, death to the IDF, marching across the

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Harbor bridge. And we had politicians leading at the front,

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elected politicians at the front, giving it legitimacy, giving it credibility.

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Our Prime minister, you know, inferred that it was a

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moment of pride. You know we recognized a Palestinian state.

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Well that's wonderful. Congratulations Hamas. Here is your reward on

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a platter. And if you don't think any of those things,

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then contribute to someone becoming emboldened and thinking, not only

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will this country not stop me from getting to my goal,

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which is to cause death. Yes, I'll be stopped and

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killed after that, but I know that I can do

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all the things that lead up to that without anyone

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stopping me whatsoever. Yeah, I almost feel like most people

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here will agree with me. They know I'm right. Look

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at the Prime minister. He thinks Israel is awful, he

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thinks Jews are really you know, you've got those kind

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of things coming together. And in the days after, of course,

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you know, sit there and see all these posts on

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Instagram from people who have not set a peep in

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two years.

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Speaker 3: I stand with the Jewish community.

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Speaker 2: But then of course it completely people move on three

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four days later and of course it goes back to normal.

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had a six hundred percent increase in anti Semitic incidents

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in this country off the back of a ten year

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old girl being shot like an animal at a bench.

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Speaker 3: So I just a part to me that just thinks,

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what's the point, you know, what hope do we have?

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Speaker 2: And there's a big call and a push for a

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Royal commission here, which we need. And I'm normally not

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not a huge fan of them because they're costly, they

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take a long time. You know, it might be two

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years before we kind of get to any findings. But

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in this instance, what the Prime Minister wants to do

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is basically just do a little like, you know, a

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little kiddy check of you know that Manila foldy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, have a look at that. Yeah, Oh, investigation done.

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Speaker 2: Like that's the level that they're looking at now because

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they are terrified, they don't want anything to have access

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to any of their emails, text messages, conversations, a Royal

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Commission will access everything. And I can tell you and

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I I've got some fairly good sources in different governments

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at certainly high levels, and they are stuffed when it

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comes to this in terms of failings on so many

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levels that have led us to this point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I this is switching gears a little bit.

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But I just here in the States. I don't know

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much about how it is in Australia. I assume it's

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probably a little bit similar. But here in the States

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we have a bunch of people who are Catholic, and well,

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at least they say they're Catholic.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'll just say they're Catholic.

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Speaker 4: But they they say they use the whole chrisis.

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Speaker 2: Both watching the screen. It's really hard when you have

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to bring your using it out.

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Speaker 3: It's grain.

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Speaker 2: We're so close assuming it out of screen for like

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the fence podcasting them.

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Speaker 3: I'm being sarcastic.

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Speaker 4: Right here, right here, but they do the whole crisis

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King thing. They do that in their bios. They put

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it like they make it part of their persona and

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they say cristis King. There are some podcasters that do

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that too, and and they use that as sort of

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like a, I don't know, it's part of their persona,

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you know, and it's and it's anti Semitic. It's a

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sort of a banner for high I'm antisemitic.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I don't like the Jews.

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Speaker 4: And and listen, we know Catholics who are not that way,

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and they're like, that's not cool because they've hijacked Catholicism

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under the guise of the christis King thing. Just can

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you speak to that a little bit as a Catholic

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because I'm not Catholic. I'm Christian, I'm just not Catholic.

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And so what do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I despise it.

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Speaker 2: I think any manipulation of our religion to hate on

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others I think is appalling. I think it almost doesn't

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get any lower than that. But we're seeing it everywhere,

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aren't we. And again, look at that emboldenment by people

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with high profiles, by people who maybe once had legitimacy.

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And this is why you look the types who push

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this kind of stuff and are really vocal about it

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at the moment. A lot of them have come from

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places and positions where they were respected and respected by

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conservatives and respected by people on the right, So they

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kind of they're more dangerous than any kind of grift

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that's just come up. It's always been sbouting this kind

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of thing. You know, they spent twenty years. It's almost like,

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was this a you look at the Muslim Brotherhood plan

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when they're looking to go and spread their tentacles and

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they tell you exactly what they're doing. They go into places,

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they infiltrate slowly but surely, even politely at times, and

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they get into your schools and your social media and

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did it. And then once they're in Blair and I

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feel like, in some ways, you look at these people

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who have looked for twenty years, I'm going to go

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on Fox and I'm going to pretend to be legitimate

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and credible and you know, not be batchel crazy. And

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then when I've got you all, I'm born.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's what it feels like to me. And

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we're seeing more and more of it. Yeah, So they're

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the ones that are dangerous rather than someone who just

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comes out of nowhere or someone who's been doing it

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for twenty years. So I think it's I think it's appalling,

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and you know, same as same as as Muslim communities.

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I look at one of the things I always talk about,

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and I grew up in Indonesia, which is the world's

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largest Islamic nation. I speak the language fluently. Hello, Apakabaragi

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and mumblisso so to my wonderful Indonesian followers. But they're

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an incredible nation and incredible people. And what I often

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do is call on them to use their voices more

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to come out against Islamic extremism, because privately they'll tell

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me they hate it more than anyone else. You look

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at Indonesia as a country and Widdo, the former president,

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did the most phenomenal job in all but eradicating it.

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They had a two pronged approach to Islamic extremism, the

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world's largest Muslim country. It is not racist or Islamophobic

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to want to rid yourselves of this evil. The world's

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largest Islamic nation made it a policy priority. Yet here

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in the West where going, oh, we don't want to

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offend them. No, they know how destructive it is. They

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don't want it. Moderate everyday Muslims don't want it. So

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I look at that as well, with what the hijacking

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of Catholicism and different elements of Christianity and more of

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us need to come out and say no, not on

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my watch. That doesn't represent my religion.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like we're not getting enough of that

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flat back either. Yes, how did I have to know? Though?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: What did they do? What is everybody else doing wrong?

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Speaker 1: That Indonesia got so right?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what? It is? So simple?

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Speaker 2: So the actual way in which they did it was

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double pronged. It was super tough, uncompromising on penalties. If

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you committed an act of terrorism, sayerl outa warrior, that's

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it done. The other end was kids, early young, with

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the indoctrination getting it out of them, this kind of

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educational softly but surely so. Down the bottom, it was

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gentle up the top. No prison has taken tough. But

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I tell you what, that's not even what made it successful.

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They named it, they were willing to talk about it.

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They were willing to say we have a problem. Our

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prime minister won't say Islamic extremism. And my dad used

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to say, you can't defeat an evil that you don't understand.

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And I take that, I mean on an even simpler sense,

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if you can't name it, how the hell are you

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going to defeat it. And this is why the West

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is so ridiculous in so many ways. They are so

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terrified of offending Muslims in my country in Australia because

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they think, oh, oh, if we talk about Islamic extremism,

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when they did when the Catholic Church was having huge

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issues with child abuse. As a Catholic, I was not

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sitting there every time it was on the news about

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some priests haven't been found out to do something horrific.

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I wasn't going how dare they mention that that priest

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is Catholic? Everyone I'm going to think No, I said, yes,

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get him out of my church.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't stand for us.

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Speaker 2: That is not who we are. I was so supportive

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of any action that would rid the church. I wanted

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to find out everything so we could make it better.

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So what I'm saying is this whole fear of not

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wanting to offend. No nobody should be offended by you

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wanting to eradicate Islamic extremism or any kind of extremism

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from your country. So in Indonesia, they don't worry about

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people's feelings or the feelings of everyday Muslims. They're like, yeah,

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get it out. It affects tourism, it affects our economy,

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it affects our kids' lives, get it out. Get In Australia,

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we're like ooh oh no, no, but not say it.

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Oh right winging, right wing's the problem. Prime Minister was

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just a man with the nicest flag. But right wing,

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right wing.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, it's just it's it's so silly, it makes

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no sense.

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Speaker 4: They always want to call you like an ISLAMI fob

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or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 4: The only people that are that are offended by calling

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out terrorism are the people that like terrorists.

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Speaker 3: Exactly right.

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Speaker 2: And if you're a friend, you know, if you worry

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about their feelings, God, what a blessed and privileged life

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you lead. I'm sitting with all the hates, I get

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with all the you know, I for five or six

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years now, I just haven't read I don't read things

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on it. Look at things, you obviously sometimes see them.

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If I want to look at someone, I look at

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who they cheer for, and I go, what a badge

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of honor that you think that I'm a two bit?

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Speaker 3: You know whatever it is? Yeah, what a badge of honor? Yep,

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that's right.

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Speaker 1: Well, and so I hope that one of your takeaways

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from our time with you today is that you are

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not alone.

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Speaker 4: With you.

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Speaker 3: It's not wead. I mean, I could do the kind

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of honey boiler I find you. I mean, are a

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three way show looking cute. It's true.

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Speaker 4: Listen, if you're ever in Texas, you look me up,

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you can come hang.

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Speaker 2: Out that except can I be honest you because here

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I'll say I'd love that. I am the biggest loaner.

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I find people exhausting kind of okay, I love that

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because I avoid it, like totally.

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Speaker 4: Like okay, Well, if you don't get it, if you

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just want to like hang out with us on the

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font like on just like this, just that would be amazing,

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wells or in our sweats.

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Speaker 3: That's what we want. Honestly, I can't do you drink

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wine and perceptive that total. I would love to do that.

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I would love to We have loved having you.

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Speaker 1: Please let our audience know they probably already do, but

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please let them know anyway how they can follow you.

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Speaker 2: Oh bless you look YouTube, the Aaron Mullin Show, on

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the podcast of course, as well Instagram, X, I mean, Facebook, everywhere.

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Do you remember like, I used to think this would

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be so sad. I used to look at kind of independence.

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Oh god, see I just did it listening on the podcast. Right,

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that's my biggest take. I used to look at independence

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and be like, that's so sad they can't make it

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in mainstream.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm the complete opposite. This is this, it's everything, and.

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Speaker 2: The reap is tenfold to anything I ever got in mainstream,

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and it's it's just it's phenomenal. So follow, share, watch

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even if you hate me, hate watch because.

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Speaker 3: That views out.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Bless you, thank you,