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number two of Off the Bench live from Pro Dreams
starts now.
Speaker 3: All start Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go where the.
Speaker 3: Plays get broken down, Ben Science gets denied.
Speaker 1: I gotta come off the bitch.
Speaker 3: Hour two of Off the Bench live from the Raising
Kine Studio.
Speaker 4: What hour is this?
Speaker 5: Two hour two OTB here live from Pro Dreams in
ben Rouge. We told you about the Marucci's hitter house
and they've got their warehouse sale coming up.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure you get the dates on that.
Speaker 5: That is November the twenty eight through December the fourteenth,
right there at Maruchi right off Sea again on McCann
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Speaker 1: Is that address.
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Speaker 1: And uh, look while you're there, I mean, as we'll
get some swings in.
Speaker 5: So go ahead and go be a part of the
membership Hitter's House, get a membership. I know the Hester
boys always always always trying to go take a few
hacks there at the Hitter's House. So again November the
twenty eight through December the fourteenth, and even adults, Matt, Yeah,
you can go get a bat. You know, you see
what you still got. I mean, I've seen you slow
pitch softball. Not a bad swing, So go, hey, I.
Speaker 4: Can, I can, I can smash it a little bit.
Now we go. Year in Green Bay won the Donald
Driver Charity Softball Game Home run Derby. Not a huge deal.
Still got the trophy. Oh guess what. Second year in
the league won it again, So not a big deal.
You know, there's a.
Speaker 1: Lot of you got to know that I'm not just
some guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm not just some guys. So you know,
there's a lot of I'm talking to you guys out there.
There's a lot of people that like to relive the
glory days through their children over at with travel, baseball
or whatever. Well, you know what, stop yelling at them
and go see what you got get in the cages. Okay,
see stick out.
Speaker 5: The swe It's funny that you mentioned that, Okay, because yes,
and it's.
Speaker 1: Like, so you can can yell at you get your
shoulder up.
Speaker 5: Because when Flynn and I played in the flag football
game a couple of months ago, one of the things
that I told Matt after the game, I said, you
know what, for the rest of the year, I don't
think I'm going to yell at anybody for missing a flag.
Speaker 1: It's way harder.
Speaker 5: To pull that flag than I thought it really was.
I'm grabbing shorts, I'm grabbing shirt, I can't grab the flag.
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, especially when the example, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 5: A good example of until you try it yourself, you
should probably just be quiet.
Speaker 4: Yep, no doubt. So so to go do it hit
her house.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be me.
Speaker 4: I want to change my brain and cooks answer all right, sure,
go ahead, Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: Oh I like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my choice, sir. I would call it shite
at receiver right now. A contender. Certainly get plug plug
and play in a veteran offense with a veteran quarterback
with a veteran head coach. Yeah, let's see some invisible
bow and arrows up in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see if that happens.
Speaker 5: He's no longer a New Orleans Saint, and now they
got to find enough receivers to go put out there
on the field. It is going to be And that
is another thing, like to get into it a little bit.
It's another thing like whichever quarterback it was, Rattler or Shuck,
like whoever was playing right now, and you're trying to see,
you know, if it's going to be the quarterback of
the future, man, you're you're kind of handcuffing him a
little bit with eleven personnel right now you're rolling out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great. It would be challenging.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know they're probably going to play a
little bit more twelve personnel with two tight ends.
Speaker 1: Get Foster Yep Andewan Johnson in there.
Speaker 5: But still like you're handcuffing whichever young quarterback would have
been in there.
Speaker 4: It'll be a great victory Monday coming up for you
for the Saints.
Speaker 1: Against all odds playing I mean, we're also playing a
bad team.
Speaker 4: Jordan also asked me a little bit about Aaron Rodgers
at the break. Yeah, I think this is last run
or whatever, dealing with they left. Is it a risk injury?
Hand in hand? Is it a risk broken?
Speaker 1: It's your friend?
Speaker 4: Is it broke as non dominant so's non throwing hand.
And you know, a lot of a lot of you know,
people have mixed opinions, mixed feelings about Aaron Rodgers, but
there's one thing you can't argue with and that that
dude is tough as nails, old school football player toughness.
And I don't know if it's going to be his
last year or not. I know he certainly told us
it was, I believe in the office, he told everybody
it was like, I'm gonna come back for one year
and this is it. Blah blah blah. He was pretty
loud about that. But the way they kind of started
off the season with momentum, they had a huge lead
in that division. Now they've lost some games and they
hadn't looked they hadn't looked great in the last couple
of weeks. But they're still leading leading their division. This
the Steelers are like, man, we want him to come back.
Let's let's run this thing back. Blah blah. He's been
great for being a great teammate, and you know, everybody,
everybody says he's a bad teammate except for his teammates.
Time to heal. But like I applaud him because of
the old school toughness. I mean, he doesn't have his
fastball like he wants. See, he could still spend it
with the best of him. But of course he's you know,
you know, a billion years old out there playing, but
he is this old school tough he's going to do everything.
I mean, it's a you know, I saw a funny
meme about oh yeah, we're definitely gonna see percoset Aeron
this week for sure, because he's done that. He has
done whatever it takes throughout his career to play, whether
it's injured, whether he should be, whether you know, he's
got to do stuff that the doctors don't know about,
whatever it is. He's just the kind of guy that
is gonna go out, he's gonna get carried off on
his shield. And that's just the type of mentalities. Guy
got that old school toughness, so excited to watch to
see what happens if he plays if he doesn't, so
we'll see. But I don't know if if they make
a playoff runt.
Speaker 5: I don't know if there was ever a team that
he would try everything he possibly could to be back
for in a road game where he gets to go
to their venue, Yeah, it'd be a Chicago Bears.
Speaker 4: This week gets the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 5: Like every time I hear y'all kind of talk about
y'all's time in Green Bay, a Bear story is coming,
because like that was you know, that was your rival.
Speaker 4: Yep, they had defense. Of course, he said so many
great moments with the Bears that I think, I think
it's the oldest rivalry in the NFL, played the most
amount of times and just absolutely in Aaron's time Ingrey,
they dominated that series. I mean there was one time
where we beat them in four times in one calendar year.
We beat them the last let's see, I think it
was two thousand and ten. We played them last game
of the season, which was January first or January, Yeah,
January first. We beat them then and then we beat
them in the playoffs, and then the following year. In
that same calendar year, we beat them both times during
the regular season, So I don't know if that's ever
been done, but yeah, beat the same team four times
in one calendar year, four times. And of course famously
people said that Aaron has ownership of the Bears. Yes,
so if there was a week you are absolutely right,
you know, besides like trying to get healthy and play
Green Bay or something like that, or play the Jets,
it would be Chicago for sure.
Speaker 1: I still think he'd be Chicago, even over maybe the Jets.
Speaker 4: I'll be shocked if he doesn't figure out a way.
I mean he might have like he might have a
club on his left hand. Who knows, like little tiny
fingers sticking out. Yeah, you know, that'd be tough to
play quarterback with a club like Rivers had the same
type of like old school toughness mentality. I'm gonna I'm
gonna get carried out on my shield for sure, because
I remember him handed the ball off with his right
hand because he couldn't hand it off with his left hand. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Philip played in the AFC Championship game against the Patriots
in O seven with no a cl He tore his
a C l in the divisional round against the Colts.
They went in on Monday and cleaned it up like
around the a CL, like had a minor surgery, just
get in there and then closed it back up. Had
no a CL, wore a brace and played in that
game with a torn a CL.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're both a little different.
Speaker 4: The acls are overrated, you know, I have.
Speaker 5: To I should want to go back and see, like
how he played. I wasn't there yet.
Speaker 1: I just remember they always talked about it because I
got there the next year. We'll go back and see
how he actually played.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, did you do it?
Speaker 1: It's not that you know.
Speaker 4: I know you did play, but should you have played?
Speaker 5: Because Billy Volleck came in the division round against the
Colts on the road, and I think Billy v led
him to victory. Like I think it was tied or
something when he came in and he led the game
winning drive. So I can't really imagine playing with that
in ECL.
Speaker 4: I looked up when I watched this game. I'll watched
the play of this LSU almost came from seventeen. The
first time I've like looked up in about ten to
fifteen minutes power.
Speaker 1: Dude. If you look down, I got four and look
back up, you're going to see a power. Oh they
only lost twenty four to twenty one.
Speaker 5: I didn't realize that is that right?
Speaker 4: Got to make sure you look up a credible source
like ESPN.
Speaker 5: They played so many times AFC Championship game. I'll find
that it was twenty one twelve that year, so they
played back to back years in the playoffs. Yeah, they
lost twenty one to twelve. Who filled did not every
great day that day? The new ACL game did not.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 5: ACL nineteen o thirty seven to eleven through the air,
no Tudds, two interceptions. LTA didn't play that day either,
he only had two carries. It's not good going into
New England with your quarterback with no ACL and your
Hall of Fame running back hurt and going against Tom Brady.
Now Brady threw three interceptions that day too, though, so
he sucks. Yeah, who's that guy? I bet they were
in power? Oh my god, so I'm watching this game.
Speaker 1: Oh, get in there. JD. Moore, I told you, I
told you.
Speaker 4: Instead of the clap count, they did the hand down
between their legs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at that JD Moore touchdown told you, let's go.
Speaker 5: JD bring him back, bringing back any eligibility, love play,
full back and.
Speaker 1: Tight End mainly tight End.
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Mm hmm, all right already our number two. Hey, I
think you know what we are in the second segment
of our number two. And we made it all the
way here without talking about the coaching search.
Speaker 4: Oh we did.
Speaker 1: That's pretty big dealing for us, pretty big, huge deal.
Speaker 4: You're welcome, bad and Rouge and.
Speaker 1: All over the world. Really, yeah, my bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we did talk about it for about three
hours on Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm bringing up because I'm.
Speaker 4: The lane plane. Oh my gosh, hiding where's the plane?
How are the flight trackers this week?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Are we studying like bus routes to train stations all
forms of transportation? Never know.
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 5: How do people find out where people's planes are because
they're huge storks?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: No, no, not not the kind of person it takes
to do it. I knew that answer. I'm just talking
about like it's like a it's like a website guest numbers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think I heard that on Sunday Monday,
one of the one of the flight track websites and
track private planes it's actually crashed because there's so many
dorks out there.
Speaker 1: They crashed the website, the plane.
Speaker 4: Plan.
Speaker 5: I don't like small planes already, so don't be saying
but ah, you know what I mean. And then like
we we not only have like must have been a
bad server though, we not only like have that like
you know where it's at or whatever, but like who
was on the plane and we're giving these people's like
first and last names, and they were on the plane
and they.
Speaker 1: Brought their two kids a piece.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what are we doing? Mm hmm, Am I
crazy for thinking that? No, you're not crazy for thinking that. Baby,
it's like because I think it too. Maybe we're both
crazy for maybe we are.
Speaker 5: Like I get like you want to report it, okay,
but it's like this was this person, their day to
birth is this and their socialists.
Speaker 4: So you have to have a tail number to be
able to track it. But then I think you can
track like all flights as well. You can track like
where they took off from. So I think a lot
of people connect dots like, oh there was a flight yesterday.
There was two flights from Oxford, Mississippi, two bad and
rugs blah, blah blah. They can do all that. So
you connect a lot of dots and then when you
hide in the bushes and you get that that bigfoot
type quality video, real brainy of somebody's like potentially somebody's
child walking off of a plane. That's when you know.
That's when you know Lane's coming here. Yeah. I saw
a reporter to trying to trick him yesterday because they've
asked them the question probably like as many times as
they can or many different ways, and they're like, so,
how'd your family feel about their trip to Baton Rouge
in Gainesville last week?
Speaker 1: I think it was Wilson that asked that for the Advocate,
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4: Well they almost got him. Lane was like, Ah, you know,
I'm not going to ask that. I understand you got
to ask it, and I respect it, but I'm not
going to answer it. Yeah, so what do you how
do you think he's doing like in the court of
public opinion right now? So he's doing all the right things,
it seems like like for the guys in his in
the building, Yeah, what seems like like he comes on
the Pat McAfee show and he brings out a player
every week and they seem to be happy, but he
is like indirectly but directly not answering anybody's question over
It's like as each day goes by, where he's not
giving affirmation to the ole Miss fan base and the
powers that be there. I don't care if you do
yoga with the ad at six am. That's what he
said in the Pat McVie show. That doesn't mean you're
still gonna be their coach. But the more that more
time goes by, does the percentage that he leaves does
that grow? Does it get greater or do you think
he's like really so focused on his team that he
does he just wants to like shut it away for
right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know that you can shut
it away now.
Speaker 5: Football is completely different than when we played because there's
I mean, there's so much information out there to where
when we played, it was like if it wasn't on
the TV, you didn't hear about it, yep, I mean,
And if you did hear about it, it was like
days later, you know, because like there wasn't social media.
There was just Facebook, and like Facebook wasn't that back then,
Like you weren't you know, you had to have a
college email address, even get on Facebook back then, so
the access is obviously different. But still there's probably like
a portion of players that, yeah, they hear it and
they're paying attention to it, but where they're at right now,
like there's they're still like main point of focus is
on their team and what they're doing right now.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: They also have like a bye week, so I mean
they're probably worried about like a lot of other things.
And I say that because it's not like it used
to be, where if you're a freshman, this canna be
my coach for the next three years, This canna be
my coach for the next.
Speaker 1: Two years, however old you are, because they're.
Speaker 5: Like, I don't know if I'm going to be here
in two years. I don't know if I'm gonna be
here in three years, Like I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe they're all just happy because they're like, well, I
love Lane, I'm about I'm about to put on that
Florida come next year.
Speaker 5: Very easily, easily, And that's why we talked about it,
like with Kenny Dillingham, and they're like the rumor that
Sam Levitt like potentially was going in the portals, like
what hold up?
Speaker 1: Is this like a package deal? If you get one,
do you get the other?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there'd be some of that as well, And that
is the basis of them not wanting trying to give
them in the you know, ultimatum heard around the world,
but maybe was or wasn't, who knows if it actually happened.
But the reason for that is because you don't want
to coach coach in your team that is going to
be another coach for a coach for another team in
a month, because he can do all those things, Yeah,
like whisper to the player. Hey, I'm about to leave,
you want to come? All those things can happen. So,
which is why I think everybody understands if old miss
did make an ultimatum that they did, So what do
you think? What do you think what's the portion of it? Well, men,
let's let's get past lane. We've talked enough lane. Yeah,
so all this other stuff, I know you kind of
created some sort of kerfuffle on the interwebs yesterday, not
even not even defending this guy, just asking a reasonable
question why LSU fans.
Speaker 5: Fans ELI drink with so much. Yeah, I'm trying to
go back right now and understand.
Speaker 4: So if we remove the comment from last So last
week's comment he made about you know, you can't expect
to make the playoffs every year was a beta comment.
It was a week comment in a comment that you
don't expect and that and I don't think that was
probably a throwaway comment to him. He was probably like
annoyed by a reporter or annoyed by annoyed by like
a line of questioning that he had been getting and
he was just trying to shut this person up. And
I get it, but out of context, like it's a
it's a quote that you won't be able to escape
from on a fan base that is looking to bring
a new coach, a new head coach in and and
it's a bad look for him, right. But outside of that,
I can't think of any negative about Eli Drink Woodz.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you know all I.
Speaker 5: Did out there because uh, somebody put out it was
Chris from u SEC unfiltered. He said, Jeff Landry may
have to change his identity if LSU lands Eli Drink
Woods instead of Lane Kiffin. And all said was, I
don't get why everyone hates On drink It makes zero
sense to me. And it wasn't like you got to
hire him, he's got to be the guy. And look,
I am byas my answer because I know Eli on
a personal level. But I was like, I just don't
get it. I mean, and I knew as soon as
I did it. Every LSU fan or Florida fan has
the graphic of his record against ranked opponents, and I knew,
So I knew it was coming.
Speaker 1: But also, like he is twenty eight and eight in
the last three years, you also have to.
Speaker 5: Take into account, okay, like he's been doing that at Miszoo,
so like he would change the level player.
Speaker 1: That he had. And so that's all I said. And
so then it has forty two.
Speaker 5: Literally forty two comments tell me why Eli Drinkwich is
a bad coach. And I'm like, again, like I'm not
even saying like he's got to be the guy for LSU.
I'm just telling you he's not a basket I don't
understand the hate. I just I dideah, I don't understand
the hate. Right again, last three years, twenty eight and eight,
he beat Ohio State and a Cotton Bowl. There's a
lot of good for Eli Drinkwitz. Would it work here?
I don't know, And honestly, let's be honest. He's done
a lot of good at Missouri in the SEC.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so it's not like this traditional powerhouse, especially
a traditional SEC powerhouse, and they have probably they have
outperformed any expectations that I think anybody has would have
set for Missouri in the SEC.
Speaker 5: And I would say outperformed it by a long shot.
So asking a reasonable question, but I get it. I mean,
like caps at them all caps.
Speaker 4: I got crushed the other day on the show for
just asking a reasonable question. Is like, is Lane kiffen
Is this whole saga about Lank Kiffin? Is he actually
worth it? Is he worth all of this drama as
a head coach? Posing the question?
Speaker 1: Maybe he is?
Speaker 4: Maybe he is right. I mean I think odds would
say he's probably not worth all this. I don't think
it's Lane Kiffin or bust or Lane Kiffin or die
like a ride or die situation. It's like, let's take
a look at some other coaches. I think there's plenty
of coaches. There's a handful of coaches that could be
very very successful here and being along and being the
long term answer.
Speaker 5: Yeah again, I just I thank you' somebody that is.
I think elis a good football coach. And yeah, he
has taken advantage of the schedule that was in front
of him and he's won the games that he's supposed to,
which is something that's not always done, certainly in college football.
Speaker 1: And again, he might not be the right guy for
this job.
Speaker 5: I think he would have a lot of advantages because
he would keep the defensive staff in place, you'd have
continuity there. But to say he's a bad coach, I
think just flat out wrong. I think Eli has proven
that he is a good college football coach.
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, well it's the thing too, Like
you talk about you win the games you should, right, yeah,
And well, if you win the games you should at
a place like LSU, that's damn ne're winning all your games.
Like at Missouri, it's not winning the games you should.
Isn't winning all your games. But if you take that
mentality and that focus of getting the best out of
your roster, not the best out of the roster that
you're playing, like a lot of teams do that. LSU
has succumbed to that, like they played down to their opponent, right,
and like it's it's just happened I'm sorry, but like,
if you get the best out of your roster, which
is what Drinkuts has done at his time at Missouri,
then at LSU you're gonna win most of your games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, every I know the stat and then you
all got it ready to go and it's copy paste.
I know, I know, I know the record and wins
over five Jesus, like I know those I know those things.
Speaker 1: And again am I saying like he's the top guy.
Speaker 5: And again, like I've known drink for a long time,
I don't think he's the guy that a lot of
people say, Oh he's this nerd guy.
Speaker 1: It's like he's not that. But I do think he's
a good football coach. That's what we're saying.
Speaker 5: Like it might not be at LSU, but still, Eli
drinkwidzs is good, but football coach, you.
Speaker 4: Got to wrap your head around it, like you gotta
like you have to be you got to understand LSU
that like there's a potential there's a maybe two handfuls
of names that we could hear be announced as the
LSU head coach. Let's not like start this out by
hating on that, like you could hear Eli Drinkwooz be
announced as the LSU head coach, right, So questions like
this need to be asked. Is Laine Kiffin the only
person that's great?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: What's the hate? What's the totality of the hate for
Eli Drinkootz? You know what I mean. It's just like
there's so many people. There's a pandful of people that
could be named as the head football coach for LSU.
So we need to kind of be a little bit
open minded on the positives and the takeaways.
Speaker 5: Hey, look, I know we are lonely on this island
thin thinking that, and and this is what coaching searches do,
and they make you try to find that, you know,
the absolute worst part of a coach, like none of
the good stuff, it's all the bad stuff.
Speaker 1: If you don't want him, you.
Speaker 5: Know, if you're if you're like asking me like, hey,
who's your like number one guy? Looking back and thinking
on it, it wouldn't be Drink Now. I think I
do think Drink would win games at Lashua. Like we
said the other I think it's like five guys that
I would say, okay, yeah, give them the keys and
they can go out there. And they can find a way.
Like yesterday we talked about Kenny Dillingham. I've known Kenny
for a long time, had many conversations with him, even
when he was in OC And I'm like, that's a
guy that I would play for. That's a guy that
I would love to be a part of his team.
Uh So, yeah, like I would. I would go to
bat for Kenny Dillingham. Like I wrote up a profile
on him yesterday, and you talked about him in LinkedIn
what he's done as a coordinator, what he's done with
different quarterbacks with different skill sets, what he's done as
a head coach at Arizona State, taking over a horrible
situation left by Herm.
Speaker 4: Edwards, And so well, look what just I mean, even
what you talked about yesterday bringing up the facts of
what he did with Bonnicks was pretty pretty fantastic. I mean,
you looked at Auburn Oregon and when he Dillingham wasn't
around Bonicks, how Bnick struggled. So it's which is pretty
it's it makes a lot of sense that timeline matches
up and you got a guy. Then you get the
rumors about Sam Levitt and potentially not being at Arizona
State next.
Speaker 5: Year, so I and Kenny Dillingham could like as soon
as the regular season's over, Yeah, he could be here.
Speaker 4: Yep, exactly. There's a lot of positives and I think
that is probably, if not any And I don't want
to speak for you, but we've talked about this all week,
right and I think we've kind of like landed on.
We got this handful. We got five or six guys,
and I think I think Lane Kiffins certainly won. Dillingham's
one drink. Woitz is one. We talked about Brent Key,
although I don't think. I think he pretty much told
us a couple of weeks ago, like cut me open
and see what colors. I believe I think that. I
think that he kind of told us right there he
wasn't going anywhere. And then I think, you know, shoot,
I think Blake Baker could do it. And we've talked
about Kevin Shepard this whole time too, So I don't
know if it's going to be one of those people.
I have no idea. I just think that if you're
telling me to pick a short list right now, I
think that would be it.
Speaker 5: It really started this whole segment not even to bring
up all the drink with stuff from Twitter last night
and again just said he wasn't a bad football coach.
But you know you mentioned that because I was talking to.
Speaker 1: You about it here all fair.
Speaker 5: I really to start this segment, I was going to
talk about John Sumrall he was going to meet with
Florida yesterday, and then like that was a report he
was meeting with Florida, and then there was a report
like two hours later that it was not going to
happen and he was taking his name out of consideration
for the Florida job. Man we talked about like like
John Summrral last year could have gone to multiple places,
and he didn't like the timing of it, and so
he decided because of that to stay at two lane.
Like right now they're in the college football playoff, like
right now now work to do the American Who knows
what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: It's been chaotic all year.
Speaker 5: But if you're Florida and you got the two lane
could saying no, no, no, I'm good, like right now,
like where you at with your search?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4: I mean that's there's a couple of things he either
doesn't want that job because he doesn't like where the
program's at, or he wants to be super committed to
two lane, but that'd be a little short, that'd be
a little narrow minded, I believe of him. Or he's
saying that he's doesn't feel like he would have the
real opportunity. They might just be kicking the tires with
him a little bit. I don't know. For some reason
I look at that, I think I feel like somewhere
all to Auburn makes sense. For whatever reason, it just
that feels like a like kind of how Franklin just
you know, got hired at Virginia Tech. That felt comfortable
to me, That felt right. Somewhere all to Auburn for
some reason feels right to me.
Speaker 5: That's a job that like is kind of getting lost
because I think the headlines of the Lane in Florida
or LSU, like that's been on the forefront. You've got
this John Somerrall situation, that was probably the biggest story yesterday.
Speaker 1: You've got James Franklin going to Virginia Tech.
Speaker 5: Like it feels quiet with Penn State, it feels really
quiet with the Auburn Tigers. And remember, like the last
time Auburn hired a coach, it was not quiet, right,
It was like they were trying to get like they
were the team trying to get Lane Kiffin and then
they end up getting Hugh Freeze. But I don't feel
like you're hearing anything from Auburn right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think they're probably and they probably kind of
like it that way. They're probably going a little bit
under the radar interviewing all these coaches and people not
tracking flights and doing all that stuff, so they can
probably a little bit more discreetly interview a lot of people,
so it might be a little bit more attractive. I
just feel like Summer all to Auburn makes a lot
of sense, and I don't know why. I don't know.
Summraw interviewed a few times.
Speaker 1: I know that too, so like, yeah, he's got a
great personality and an old school.
Speaker 4: And like I've already like I can I can pinpoint
his personality just based on this couple of times I've
heard and speak and it just feels like a good Auburn.
Speaker 1: Filp t all. I know.
Speaker 4: That's that's my professional opinion right there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean for John Simmon's like career he started
out as a player at Kentucky, then he was at
GA at Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Then he went to San Diego. I believe he was
there like when Harball was still there.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe his first year was Harball's last year at
the University of San Diego. Then he goes to Tulane
as a co dc in twenty twelve and he was
there twenty twelve, thirteen and fourteen, and then he goes
to Troy where he was assistant head coach there, and
then he goes to Old Miss for a year, and
then he goes back to Kentucky where he was a
player for I think three seasons, and then he goes
he's a head coach for Troy. Before he goes to Tulane,
he's forty and eleven and it's career as a head coach,
and so a lot of people assume like he's been
waiting on the Kentucky job and Mark Stoops to open up,
and it looked like it was going to happen, and
then now Kentucky's kind of put together a nice little
winning streak and it's like, what do we do? So, like,
if you're Kentucky and Mark Stoops is the longest tenured
SEC coach.
Speaker 1: Now you got to kind of make a decision. Do
we move on from coach stoops or do we ride
this wave that he's had, you know, the back portion
of the season, beating Auburn, beating Florida. Whoever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Crazy times in college football, crazy
times in the SEC. And I just got to figure
out because it was part of my bold predictions before
the year. I just got to figure out what John
Gruden's going to wind up in the SEC. He's going somewhere.
Speaker 1: No he's not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, No, he's not John Cruden.
Speaker 1: It's fine, he's not John freaking Gruden. What's that mean?
Nothing exactly. Groomers.
Speaker 4: Wait, what'd you say?
Speaker 1: Groomers instead of rumors? Groomers?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but did you have I thought you were trying to, like,
didn't you don't remember that?
Speaker 5: That's like message board Like for years it was groomers
because he was going to have every season grinders.
Speaker 1: Yes he did.
Speaker 4: I thought you were just like misremembering that. Nope, message
board groomers. I want him. I want him to coach.
He's awesome. I don't know as a coach, but personality.
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Speaker 5: We talked I think it was like last week at
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the video out there and everybody's like, it doesn't matter
about timing if you get the right guy.
Speaker 1: M I hear you, hear you. But it does.
Speaker 5: So like some of the people that we're talking about,
like you would be able to right after the Oklahoma
game name your head coach, and there's a couple of
people like that. You know, aren't involved in the college
football playoff right now, because the only thing you worry
about if you wait, if you don't make the move
right then, like what if you get left at the altar,
Like that's always a concern for you as well. So
many different jobs are open right now that if you
did wait on a certain candidate right and you got
left at the altar, like all the other people that
would be available would probably already be gone. So like
that's certainly a concern. So, I mean there's a lot
of different things that kind of come into play here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is certainly a fear, especially if you know,
if you're number one, let's just say it is lane.
If they make a playoff run, that's a deep playoff rund.
And I think right now they're scheduled, they're on pace
right now to host a home playoff game in the
first round. So you know, if you're hosting, you got
a hometown home field advantage in the first round playoffs,
that probably a good shot you're going to the second round.
So you just got to have to continuously wait and
wait and wait, and uh, there is always a chance
that you are not chosen at least seen those episodes
of the Bachelor, or that guy goes to the authar,
there's that girl's expecting them to get on a knee.
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Speaker 5: It was laying like in his suit with a rose
and it had Florida, Ole, Miss and l s U
and it was straight Bachelor and yeah it was great.
Speaker 4: That's great, so Eli final It's just like that, just
like the Batch are like, if you are going to
play that game and wait and hope that he proposes
to you instead of Florida or just sticking with his
current Boo or Miss, you can't be shocked if he
does leave you at.
Speaker 1: The altar, right, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: The timing of it is is something that does need
to be considered, I think because of how long it
could be and also what could be left over if
you do, in fact, you know, get left at the
altar there, because look, if you wait.
Speaker 1: Let's sell you wait on Lane Kifvin.
Speaker 5: Right, Let's say that you do wait and he wants
to come, and you've gotten that word and you've had
the backchannel conversations.
Speaker 1: That it's going to happen.
Speaker 5: Okay, Let's say they win a game, and then they
win another game, and then they win another game. He's like,
wait a minute, hold up, I think it changed my mind,
you know, which has been like human nature like that
would be like that'd be something like with the more
momentum that you get, like I guess we are.
Speaker 4: Forgetting too like we are forgetting that it from all reports,
at least now, Lane Keivin denied this on the Pat
mcavee show. But from all reports, Ole Miss isn't going
to let him leave somebody at the altar because of
the quote unquote ultimatum that he received that he has
to have a decision by the egg bull, which whether
smoke there's fire. There's that conversation that's been had. Maybe
they didn't give him an actual deadline. This is before
this game, but like it doesn't sound like and they
shouldn't I agree with this. They shouldn't let him coach
all the way through. So in that case, if he
doesn't make a decision. Yeah, I guess he could be
available in a couple of weeks. So I don't even
know if lan Kiffn is going to give you that
possibility of waiting it out and then being left at
the altar because of ole miss rightfully so potentially forcing
his hand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, says Kivin. Leaves us hanging like Bryce Underwood.
Speaker 3: Was.
Speaker 1: Like you had Bryce for a long long time, Lane
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Speaker 4: But look, we keep forgetting to talk about lank Kiffing
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Speaker 1: Dart with the Giants.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, you see it's gotta be I did
not see that one that use it sentence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I guess he's new on Twitch. I
don't really know what twitch is, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he uh he's one of that death made fun
of us for not knowing what it was.
Speaker 4: Yep. So he's doing a lot of different things right
now to entertain himself. And he popped off to some
people on social media. Bet hey, you're you know, I
just got my you know, season inding injury blah blah blah.
I'm like looking for ways to entertain myself. So I
think you started getting some followers on Twitch and he
decided to chug a I think an energy drink out
of a game, used shoe of his with his shirt off.
Who among us, who among us hasn't done that? And
uh yeah, he checked the shoe right there, and you
could like see the moment where the caffeine just hit
all at once, yep, and he tweaks out a little
bit pretty wild, starts flexing. Sure, all right, Cam, So
just to just completely normal stuff. He did it because
I think he got like to a thousand followers or
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