WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:16.519 Welcome to Here's to Your Health With Joshua Lane. Here's 2 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:19.760 to Your Health discusses the current thinking and wellness, bringing 3 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:23.640 you the most influential thinkers in beauty, fitness, and longevity. 4 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:26.280 Your host, Joshua Lane, was part of the Doctor and 5 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:29.879 Wigmore team that helped bring wheat, grass sprouts and raw 6 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.280 foods to a worldwide audience and now the host of 7 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:35.560 Here's to Your Health. Joshua Lane. 8 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.560 Welcome to this edition of Here's to Your Health. I'm 9 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:44.399 your host, josh Lane. As we all are concerned about 10 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:48.840 our good health, we're also concerned about healthcare costs which 11 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:53.119 are just kind of seeming remarkably high, and there are 12 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:57.039 answers that we need to learn, we need to investigate. 13 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.640 And my guest today is Mac Warnick, and Matt is 14 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:04.760 the president of Ridgecrest Herbals, an herbal company. I have 15 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:07.159 been around for a part of more than thirty five 16 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:10.239 or so years and they have some excellent formulations. And 17 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:13.040 Matt is also a member of the National Health Federation, 18 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:16.719 which is an important group in wellness in the United 19 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:19.280 States and in the world. And the National Health Federation 20 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.719 has been around since nineteen fifty five, doing excellent work 21 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:27.439 to protect us, including supporting the chiropractical profession working to 22 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:31.079 prevent a homeopathy of being knocked out of the public space. 23 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:36.239 It's amazing all that's required to try to keep us 24 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.719 healthy in the United States. Mac Warnick, welcome to the show. 25 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:41.719 Thank you. I'm happy to be here. 26 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:43.760 Yeah, very happy to have you on. With that little 27 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:45.799 brief introduction that kind of gives you a sense of 28 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:49.319 you know, of your place in things. And so you 29 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:53.040 are the president of Ridgecrest Herbels, which so when was 30 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:55.319 actually Ridgecrest actually founded. 31 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:59.120 It was actually founded back in nineteen ninety three. Okay, 32 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:05.840 my dad and a a fellow consultant got together Clyde 33 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:10.759 Saint Clair. Clyde had a long industry experience in the industry, 34 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:14.120 and my dad was brought in as a turnaround artist 35 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:19.560 to try and turn around a branch of a mini 36 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:25.919 conglomerate at the time that was doing professional formulas. And 37 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:29.360 they looked at the market and said, well, the market 38 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.479 for professionals at this point in time is just too 39 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:36.400 darn small. And they went to the owners and said, 40 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:39.159 if you took this to health food stores, you could 41 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:42.319 probably make it work, but everything would have to be 42 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.840 labeled there's a lot of work involved, and they basically said, yeah, 43 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.159 we don't want to do that. And so the two 44 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:52.560 consultants got together and said, well, what if we did 45 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:56.719 it for them and offered them a royalty. At least 46 00:02:56.759 --> 00:03:01.560 they'd be making some money. Awharoes. Right now they're losing. 47 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:04.800 And so that's what they did, and that's how Ridgegrest 48 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:08.000 Gerbils got started back in ninety three. 49 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:09.080 Wow. 50 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:11.639 And so of course the Shay came along in ninety 51 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:14.639 four and changed the whole landscape right for the better. 52 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:18.159 You would say, oh, yeah, absolutely right. 53 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:21.759 The Shaye Act was actually very important. And when in 54 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:26.400 ninety three, obviously that was surprisingly long time ago, and 55 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:30.639 the subject most people were still completely unaware of it. Well, 56 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:34.159 they watched mainstream ABC, NBCCBS and they made fun of 57 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:38.479 us or worse about us. And on Ridge Crest Erbles. 58 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:40.879 Let me just kind of mention this. So there's one formulation, 59 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:45.280 the clear lung, which I know as a person who 60 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:48.479 is interested in the subject and like supplements, is the 61 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:53.000 clear lung one of the most remarkable formulations that Ridgecrest 62 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:54.159 has it. You're very proud of. 63 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:59.680 Oh, certainly, clear lungs is kind of our flagship product. 64 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:03.840 It's a traditional Chinese erbal formula. Actually it's a combination 65 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:08.599 of two traditional Chinese erbal formulas, and it has been 66 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:12.319 the best selling natural lung formula in the country since 67 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:14.520 nineteen ninety six or thereabouts. 68 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:18.800 Wow wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, certainly everyone. It's really it's 69 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:22.079 really very very well known. And for those individuals, you know, 70 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:24.040 those folks listening to the show again, our guess is 71 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:28.800 Mac Warnick. Matt is the president of Ridgecrest Herbals, known 72 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:31.519 for their herbal formulations, and also Matt is a member 73 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:34.120 of the National Health Federation. He's on the board of Governors. 74 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:37.040 I'm also a member of the National Health Federation. I'm 75 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:39.120 proud to be part of them. They do such such 76 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.879 great work, Matt. So today, you know, there's a lot 77 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:48.120 of concern about health, and so what what can people 78 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:51.800 do now? What can we do practically to help ourselves 79 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:52.759 be healthier now? 80 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:57.199 Well, I think the biggest thing that we can do 81 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.480 is take charge of our own health, right. I think 82 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:04.079 for too long we have entrusted our health to others, 83 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:10.439 and their motives have been mixed at best. The simple 84 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.759 fact of the matter is that conventional medicine has been 85 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:22.000 profit oriented, very profit oriented since since the early nineteen hundreds, 86 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:27.279 and that was a very intentional shift. Before that, it 87 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:31.560 was not that way. It was created to be a 88 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:38.839 monopolistic system beginning around nineteen ten, and the system was 89 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:42.720 largely in place by nineteen thirty eight. 90 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:47.839 Matt, that statement just made. When you talk to people 91 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:52.360 outside of your immediate circle and you make that statement, 92 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:56.120 do they feel that you're incorrect when you say that? 93 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:57.600 Are they just shocked to hear it? 94 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.720 I don't know that they're shocked to hear it. I 95 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:07.720 think most people understand that there's something wrong in our 96 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:12.199 traditional medical system. When you see headlines in Time magazine 97 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:16.040 saying that medical error is the number three cause of death, 98 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:24.600 When you see drug companies making profits that run about 99 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:31.560 twice what other industries make, When they see that Americans 100 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:36.959 are paying twice as much for healthcare per capita as 101 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:44.199 other developed countries generally, and our current position in terms 102 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:49.800 of public health is about number forty seven, I think 103 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:53.680 it's very apparent to people that there's a problem. What 104 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:59.399 they don't understand is why the problem exists, Why is 105 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:03.519 healthcare so expensive in America? And what can we do 106 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:05.560 about it? Those are the real questions that I think 107 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:06.160 people have. 108 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.480 Actually, that's a that's a very nice synopsis of I 109 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.319 think problem. I think I think not all Americans. You 110 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:14.319 never get a one hundred percent, but I think most 111 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:17.160 people will think, oh, yes, yes, Matt, we agree with Matt. 112 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:20.360 Just said Matt, So you as far as your educational background, 113 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:22.199 you're a graduate attorney, are you not? 114 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:27.800 I am yes. I was a practicing attorney in Utah 115 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:32.839 and California for about thirteen years and was primarily a 116 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:43.199 business litigator. We did a lot of cases that involved disputes, 117 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:47.959 very very technical disputes between the various parties, and each 118 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.920 side had their own expert witnesses. One of the things 119 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:59.399 that lawyers do as a matter of trade is analyze 120 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.439 the expert witnesses on both sides to find out how 121 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:07.279 much of their testimony is coin operated, so to speak, yes, 122 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:10.199 and how much of it is based on real science. 123 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:13.600 And then of course you have to translate that for 124 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.439 the benefit of a judge or jury who has no 125 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:21.439 familiarity with the science in this particular case. So it's 126 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:26.879 an interesting process and one that I learned a lot from. 127 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:30.560 Our guest is Matt Warnick. Matt is the president of 128 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.559 Ridgecrest Herbels. They've been around now for more than thirty 129 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.080 years and they do some have some excellent formulations. And 130 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:39.679 Matt's also involved with the National Health Federation, is on 131 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:42.039 the board of Governor's National Health Federation. Very proud of 132 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.639 comment on them. They really do our amazing work. They've 133 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.399 managed to reduce the amount of aluminium food. They're opposed 134 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:51.879 to synthetic meats that are coming out. They're concerned about 135 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:54.639 glyphys aid in us being sprayed and also the amount 136 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:58.480 of arsenic and glaphysate in the formulations. So they're doing 137 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:00.799 amazing and they have a track recor since eighteen fifty five. 138 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:04.120 So I'm happy to say that now in America and 139 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:06.799 I guess around the world. You know, in twenty twenty six, 140 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:13.320 the interested in interest in wellness, food, a cleaner environment, athletics, 141 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.399 you know, has become much more popular than it was 142 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:18.840 years ago in the seventies or eighties, when people were 143 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:24.360 largely unaware or dismissive of this subject. Matt, So, what 144 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:27.639 can we do right now? What can we do as 145 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:31.360 just regular Americans to make sure that our health does 146 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:34.519 get better? I mean, what are the ideas that you 147 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:36.519 now take for granted that you didn't know when you 148 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:37.240 were a young man. 149 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:42.120 Well, when I was a young man, I was I 150 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.840 was raised in the house that believed very much in science, 151 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:50.279 very much followed conventional medicine, and my world was kind 152 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:55.000 of turned on its head in two thousand when my 153 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.399 mother was diagnosed as one of the victims of Fenn 154 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:01.759 Fenn right, and that it was probably the first exposure 155 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:07.720 that I had to the harm that can come from 156 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:12.200 FDA approved medicines. That was a combination of two FDA 157 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:16.840 approved medicines, both of which had been tested independently, but 158 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:21.679 which had never been tested together, and together they caused 159 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:28.559 massive heart valve and circulatory system problems for about a 160 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:30.679 third of the people that took him. There were about 161 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:35.919 six hundred thousand victims of fen Fenn and as I 162 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:40.679 came to understand that and started to see some of 163 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:49.200 the other recalls and various problems that had been experienced 164 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:55.320 with conventional medicine. At the same time, I had stepped 165 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:58.759 in to help my dad out with this company. He 166 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:02.200 wanted to spend more time. My mom had been diagnosed 167 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:05.720 and had been told she had eighteen to twenty four 168 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.360 months to live was their best prognosis at the time, 169 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.320 and so Dad wanted to spend more time with her, 170 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:15.679 and I was I had just left law practice. I 171 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:21.639 was so tired of moving one pocket one and moving 172 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:25.399 money from one pocket to another, very expensively and very uncertainly, 173 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:30.120 that I actually let my law license lapse because I 174 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.120 did not want to be tempted to go back to 175 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:35.320 that life. Oh OK, But I was trying to figure 176 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:40.480 out what was the next chapter. And Dad was looking 177 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:43.519 for somebody to step in and help out with Ridgecrest 178 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:46.240 so that he could spend more time with Mom. So 179 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.279 I willingly did that. I was very happy to do that, 180 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.519 But at the time I thought that was both temporary 181 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:56.399 and part time. It turned out to be neither. 182 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.120 Our guest is mcwarnick. Matt is the president of Ridgecrest 183 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:04.120 herbals Matt. So, for listeners of Here's Your Health, you 184 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:07.240 mentioned Fenn Fenn. Just could you mention again what fen 185 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:10.440 Fenn does in the body and why it was recommended 186 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:11.600 for your mom. 187 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:16.000 So it's a weight loss combination. It was the latest. 188 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.639 It was like GLP one today right everybody was prescribing it. 189 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:28.080 It was a combination of two different FDA approved ingredients, 190 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:35.399 and folks that took it commonly experienced a short time 191 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:41.159 later problems with heart valves, in many cases requiring the 192 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:46.720 replacement of the heart valves. And as my mom had, 193 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:51.919 it was called primary pulmonary hypertension, and it's high blood 194 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:55.480 pressure but on the lung side so that it doesn't 195 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:01.519 necessarily exhibit in the extremities, but it causes the same 196 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.679 kind of damage in the lungs and in the heart 197 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:09.799 and in the brain. My mom ultimately had two strokes 198 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.279 from it and was bedridden for the last fourteen years 199 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:17.600 of her life. She certainly outlived the doctor's expectations, but 200 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:22.440 her quality of life was severely, severely compromised. 201 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:26.720 Okay, so that sounds pretty awful. So a lot of 202 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:32.399 people need to understand the consequences of taking medications prescribed 203 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:40.600 by physicians that really are not carefully manufactured, not properly tested. 204 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.080 If I could just jump in for a second, and 205 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:45.399 let's say people are listening to you talk about your 206 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:47.759 mom's illness and think, oh, okay, well, sorry, his mom 207 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:50.759 wasn't ill. But you know, it's medication and there's always 208 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:53.519 a small amount of side effects. But really we're talking 209 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:58.559 about but really improperly tested medications given to hundreds of 210 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:02.399 thousands of Americans, improperly tested. And also I can remember 211 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.320 as a young man back in say the nineteen fifties 212 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:08.759 nineteen sixties, the MDS took everyone's tonsils and appendix out 213 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:10.639 and they said, oh, no, it's good science. You don't 214 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:13.679 need the tonsils and the appendix is vestigial. They actually 215 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.240 had the goal to say that. And the reason I 216 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.759 mentioned that is because that was considered good science then, 217 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:21.759 but now no one puts up with that. They recognize 218 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:25.120 it wasn't science, but it was very profitable. I don't 219 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:26.960 want to sound like a mean person when I say that, 220 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:30.559 but obviously if they can make money on you and 221 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.720 even hurt you, they don't seem to really care. 222 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:40.600 Yeah, it's kind of the Devil's algebra when you're counting 223 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:44.200 up how many people you're going to kill, right and 224 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:48.240 what you're going to have to pay out and figuring 225 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.759 that into your calculations of whether the drug is going 226 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.559 to be profitable or not. That to me is an 227 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:57.399 area that I just would not want to go. And 228 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:01.399 so when I stepped into this role, I was on 229 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:04.919 the operation side. I was just making sure that we 230 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:08.120 didn't run out of stock of clear lungs, some of 231 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:10.840 those kinds of things, you know, using the MBA side 232 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:16.320 of my training. I also got an MBA, but I 233 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:19.720 hadn't had much chance to use it until I got 234 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:25.600 involved in mergers and acquisitions work first and then later 235 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:30.120 with Ridgecrest herbals. But as I was doing that, one 236 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:32.799 of the first questions that came to my mind was, Okay, 237 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:38.000 here we have two FDA approved drugs that cause this 238 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:41.919 much damage when prescribed together. How do I know that 239 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:47.639 the thirteen herbs in clear lungs, which have never been 240 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:50.639 looked at or approved by the FDA? How do I 241 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.279 know that those are safe when taken together? That was 242 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:57.039 the thing that was keeping me up at night, and 243 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:01.240 so I did what lawyers always do, dug into the 244 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:06.159 science and tried to understand how these things could and 245 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:14.919 would interact and what made traditional Chinese medicine different from 246 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:19.000 American medicine. And a number of things came to me 247 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:25.159 right away. One of them was that in Western medicine, 248 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:28.720 we seem to always have an idea that more is better, okay, 249 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:34.120 and we tend to give the biggest dose of something. 250 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:39.519 We tend to whack things with AMers, and the Chinese 251 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:43.480 approach is very different. It's much more preventative, it's much 252 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:53.519 more gentle, it's much more measured, and the ingredients that 253 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:58.679 they use are ingredients that they have experience with for 254 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:06.279 at least hundreds, usually thousands of years. Herbal medicine is 255 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:09.119 something that has been with us for sixty thousand years 256 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:14.079 that we know of, and that means we know a 257 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.559 lot more about those ingredients and how they work in 258 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:23.200 the body than anything that comes off of a newly 259 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:24.000 listed patent. 260 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:28.759 Right, our guest is Matt Mornick. Matt is the president 261 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:31.680 of Ridgecrest Herbals, and we're discussing, you know, what can 262 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:35.319 we Americans do today to keep ourselves healthy. And one 263 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:38.240 of the things we can do is, you know, healthy lifestyle, 264 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:41.319 which we now take for granted that oh, yes, yes, 265 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.079 we need to eat carefully and exercise, and most everyone 266 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:45.880 kind of agrees that's not a big deal and we 267 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:48.400 should be doing that. But years ago people were really 268 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.240 rather dismissive of the idea. They thought all that the 269 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:53.720 MD's would tell, you know, eat whatever you want. The 270 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:56.680 MD's would say to you, no, it doesn't matter, missus Smith, 271 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.000 it's calories in calories out, calories in calories out there, 272 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.599 would say, because maybe a few of them still say that. 273 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:04.640 And then you ask him a question, well, doc, if 274 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:07.000 I have two thousand calories a day of vodka, will 275 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:10.200 I be healthy? Usually they are. Usually, Usually they're quiet 276 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:12.720 in one sentence. Usually they're quiet because they realized no, no, no, 277 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.319 they're they're they're they're misinformed that they could just completely 278 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:18.599 wrong calories of consideration much mo when Bortant his quality 279 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:21.240 of carbohydrate, and I guess herbal medicine really kind of 280 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:26.240 works with food as a healing tool. Matt. So now 281 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:28.960 that it's too twenty twenty six, and we suffered with 282 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:31.079 the COVID pandemic four or five years ago, and a 283 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:33.799 lot of people really suffered. Do you think that, for 284 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.759 whatever reason, we're in a place now historically in the 285 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.880 United States that's never happened before that many more people 286 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.319 are now interested in preventative measures. 287 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:49.319 Oh, yes, absolutely. I think the world has changed since COVID. 288 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:55.960 I think, uh, I think the medical establishment so clearly 289 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.319 overstepped their bounds that I think a lot of people 290 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:04.039 saw what's really going on there and didn't like it, 291 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:09.319 so I think I think there are some drastic changes 292 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.799 that have taken place. And you know, prior to COVID, 293 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:16.480 I didn't know the NHF existed. The National Health Federation. 294 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:23.319 I learned about that at a thirty year retrospective on 295 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:29.480 Dushay and I learned what role they played along with 296 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:32.960 a couple of other citizens organizations back at that time 297 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:37.960 in getting to Shay passed. And as soon as I 298 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:40.519 found out, I thought, this is an organization I need 299 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.480 to learn more about and get involved with. So that's 300 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:46.599 when I dived in. I immediately ran out and bought 301 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:51.400 a lifetime membership and have been involved with them ever since. 302 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.240 Was elected to the Board of Governors recently. What an 303 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:58.880 opportunity to hang out with people who have been fighting 304 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:04.039 this battle much longer than me. Right, It's an amazing experience. 305 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:07.400 Yeah, the National Health Federation excellent, important organization. That's a 306 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:10.319 that's interesting history. And also you made an interesting statement. 307 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:14.119 You said that most people or people now are concerned 308 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:19.160 that mds are overstating their authority. That's an interesting statement 309 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:22.079 to make, and it's I think it's actually very succinct 310 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:25.119 and actually correctly said. But that did not I mean 311 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:27.319 years ago, if the md said do this, people just 312 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:29.960 did it. But now they think, no, maybe I shouldn't 313 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:32.960 be giving my forty eight hour old baby, you know, 314 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:37.279 ten injections on the same day, and that it seems 315 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:41.599 very obviously you shouldn't. But really, fifteen years ago, maybe 316 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:43.759 people said no, no, the md know what they're doing. And 317 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:45.400 now people think, no, no, we don't want to do 318 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:46.880 that to the baby. We don't want to give a 319 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:50.079 baby hepatitis vaccine today. The baby's you know, two days old. 320 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:52.119 Maybe we could give it to them, maybe when the 321 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:55.200 baby's sixteen or something, if then, but not at forty 322 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:57.839 eight hours. And people would never have done that years ago. 323 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:00.160 And now people think, no, listen, thanks doc. You know, 324 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:02.720 if I break my arm, I'll call you. But otherwise 325 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:04.240 they think, no, no, no, we got to keep an 326 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:06.640 eye on them, which is really kind of a surprising 327 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:09.200 change for the mds. People think, well, maybe they're just 328 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:10.119 business guys. 329 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:14.599 You know. The funny thing is, I don't even think 330 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:19.880 it's the mds because the mds, at least most of 331 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:21.839 the ones that I've met, have their hearts in the 332 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:26.039 right place. The problem is they have come through an 333 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:31.240 institutional educational system that has trained them to think a 334 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:37.400 certain way, and many of them don't question it. Some 335 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:45.359 of them do. If they do, they quickly discover. I 336 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:48.640 know an MD who says I was lied to, Oh well, 337 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:58.759 and she is actively pursuing herbal medicine today as opposed 338 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:02.880 to what she was taught in school. Right, you know 339 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:10.039 of mds today do not belong to the American Medical Association. 340 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:12.839 I do not know that yet. The American Medical Association 341 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:16.720 is still pushing for a lot of the control kinds 342 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:21.720 of issues. They're the ones that administer the payer codes 343 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:27.519 that make our insurance system work. It's very coin operated. 344 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:34.880 But mds take the Hippocratic oath. Nurses take a variant 345 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.559 of the Hippocratic oath, and that oath says you put 346 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:43.440 patients first. That same oath is not taken by drug 347 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:48.160 company executives. It's not taken by insurance company executives. It's 348 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:52.279 not taken by hospital administrators. It's not taken by lots 349 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:57.039 of folks that are intimately involved in our healthcare. And 350 00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:00.759 that's why I say, well, what we have today is 351 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:05.279 a monopoly that's administered by the federal government, the FDA. 352 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:09.880 They decide what the choices are, and we get to 353 00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:14.839 pick from those choices. There was a famous crooked politician 354 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.200 that ran Tammany Hall and in the Gilded Age, Tammany 355 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:23.079 Hall ran New York and he said, I don't care 356 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:24.799 who does the voting, as long as I get to 357 00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:27.880 do the nominating. Right. Well, it's the same kind of 358 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:31.000 thing in this situation. If you set the menu, it 359 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:34.079 doesn't matter what they order off the menu. You control 360 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:39.839 the meal. That's a monopoly and that creates monopoly pricing, 361 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.279 and that's why we pay more here in the United 362 00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:45.519 States than anywhere else in the world. 363 00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:46.720 Wow. 364 00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:50.200 I'd like to thank my guest Matt Warnick, who really 365 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:55.119 very clearly and accurately stated that the problem and what's 366 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:59.839 occurring and who's profiting really very nicely stated Matt Warnick. 367 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.359 He is the president of Ridgecrest Herbels, an herbal company 368 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:06.160 but around a long time known for the excellent formulations. 369 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.559 And Matt's also a member of the board of governors 370 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:12.119 of the National Health Federation, an excellent important organization. I'd 371 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:15.319 like you all listeners please investigate the National Health Federation. 372 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:17.960 You'll find they're doing some very good work. This is 373 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.240 Josh Lane. We're going to take a short break and 374 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:24.359 we'll be right back after these important messages. 375 00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:27.440 Give the gift of health to someone you love with 376 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:32.039 Alo Life Alavera Prince Alivera widely is by our ancestors 377 00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:36.039 as herbal medicine contains much needed nutrition when the ala 378 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:39.160 vera is not overfiltered. 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