Speaker 1: Welcome to Here's to Your Health With Joshua Lane. Here's
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Speaker 1: Your host, Joshua Lane, was part of the Doctor and
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Speaker 2: Welcome to this edition of Here's to Your Health. I'm
Speaker 2: your host, josh Lane. As we all are concerned about
Speaker 2: our good health, we're also concerned about healthcare costs which
Speaker 2: are just kind of seeming remarkably high, and there are
Speaker 2: answers that we need to learn, we need to investigate.
Speaker 2: And my guest today is Mac Warnick, and Matt is
Speaker 2: the president of Ridgecrest Herbals, an herbal company. I have
Speaker 2: been around for a part of more than thirty five
Speaker 2: or so years and they have some excellent formulations. And
Speaker 2: Matt is also a member of the National Health Federation,
Speaker 2: which is an important group in wellness in the United
Speaker 2: States and in the world. And the National Health Federation
Speaker 2: has been around since nineteen fifty five, doing excellent work
Speaker 2: to protect us, including supporting the chiropractical profession working to
Speaker 2: prevent a homeopathy of being knocked out of the public space.
Speaker 2: It's amazing all that's required to try to keep us
Speaker 2: healthy in the United States. Mac Warnick, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very happy to have you on. With that little
Speaker 2: brief introduction that kind of gives you a sense of
Speaker 2: you know, of your place in things. And so you
Speaker 2: are the president of Ridgecrest Herbels, which so when was
Speaker 2: actually Ridgecrest actually founded.
Speaker 3: It was actually founded back in nineteen ninety three. Okay,
Speaker 3: my dad and a a fellow consultant got together Clyde
Speaker 3: Saint Clair. Clyde had a long industry experience in the industry,
Speaker 3: and my dad was brought in as a turnaround artist
Speaker 3: to try and turn around a branch of a mini
Speaker 3: conglomerate at the time that was doing professional formulas. And
Speaker 3: they looked at the market and said, well, the market
Speaker 3: for professionals at this point in time is just too
Speaker 3: darn small. And they went to the owners and said,
Speaker 3: if you took this to health food stores, you could
Speaker 3: probably make it work, but everything would have to be
Speaker 3: labeled there's a lot of work involved, and they basically said, yeah,
Speaker 3: we don't want to do that. And so the two
Speaker 3: consultants got together and said, well, what if we did
Speaker 3: it for them and offered them a royalty. At least
Speaker 3: they'd be making some money. Awharoes. Right now they're losing.
Speaker 3: And so that's what they did, and that's how Ridgegrest
Speaker 3: Gerbils got started back in ninety three.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And so of course the Shay came along in ninety
Speaker 3: four and changed the whole landscape right for the better.
Speaker 3: You would say, oh, yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 2: The Shaye Act was actually very important. And when in
Speaker 2: ninety three, obviously that was surprisingly long time ago, and
Speaker 2: the subject most people were still completely unaware of it. Well,
Speaker 2: they watched mainstream ABC, NBCCBS and they made fun of
Speaker 2: us or worse about us. And on Ridge Crest Erbles.
Speaker 2: Let me just kind of mention this. So there's one formulation,
Speaker 2: the clear lung, which I know as a person who
Speaker 2: is interested in the subject and like supplements, is the
Speaker 2: clear lung one of the most remarkable formulations that Ridgecrest
Speaker 2: has it. You're very proud of.
Speaker 3: Oh, certainly, clear lungs is kind of our flagship product.
Speaker 3: It's a traditional Chinese erbal formula. Actually it's a combination
Speaker 3: of two traditional Chinese erbal formulas, and it has been
Speaker 3: the best selling natural lung formula in the country since
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six or thereabouts.
Speaker 2: Wow wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, certainly everyone. It's really it's
Speaker 2: really very very well known. And for those individuals, you know,
Speaker 2: those folks listening to the show again, our guess is
Speaker 2: Mac Warnick. Matt is the president of Ridgecrest Herbals, known
Speaker 2: for their herbal formulations, and also Matt is a member
Speaker 2: of the National Health Federation. He's on the board of Governors.
Speaker 2: I'm also a member of the National Health Federation. I'm
Speaker 2: proud to be part of them. They do such such
Speaker 2: great work, Matt. So today, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of concern about health, and so what what can people
Speaker 2: do now? What can we do practically to help ourselves
Speaker 2: be healthier now?
Speaker 3: Well, I think the biggest thing that we can do
Speaker 3: is take charge of our own health, right. I think
Speaker 3: for too long we have entrusted our health to others,
Speaker 3: and their motives have been mixed at best. The simple
Speaker 3: fact of the matter is that conventional medicine has been
Speaker 3: profit oriented, very profit oriented since since the early nineteen hundreds,
Speaker 3: and that was a very intentional shift. Before that, it
Speaker 3: was not that way. It was created to be a
Speaker 3: monopolistic system beginning around nineteen ten, and the system was
Speaker 3: largely in place by nineteen thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Matt, that statement just made. When you talk to people
Speaker 2: outside of your immediate circle and you make that statement,
Speaker 2: do they feel that you're incorrect when you say that?
Speaker 2: Are they just shocked to hear it?
Speaker 3: I don't know that they're shocked to hear it. I
Speaker 3: think most people understand that there's something wrong in our
Speaker 3: traditional medical system. When you see headlines in Time magazine
Speaker 3: saying that medical error is the number three cause of death,
Speaker 3: When you see drug companies making profits that run about
Speaker 3: twice what other industries make, When they see that Americans
Speaker 3: are paying twice as much for healthcare per capita as
Speaker 3: other developed countries generally, and our current position in terms
Speaker 3: of public health is about number forty seven, I think
Speaker 3: it's very apparent to people that there's a problem. What
Speaker 3: they don't understand is why the problem exists, Why is
Speaker 3: healthcare so expensive in America? And what can we do
Speaker 3: about it? Those are the real questions that I think
Speaker 3: people have.
Speaker 2: Actually, that's a that's a very nice synopsis of I
Speaker 2: think problem. I think I think not all Americans. You
Speaker 2: never get a one hundred percent, but I think most
Speaker 2: people will think, oh, yes, yes, Matt, we agree with Matt.
Speaker 2: Just said Matt, So you as far as your educational background,
Speaker 2: you're a graduate attorney, are you not?
Speaker 3: I am yes. I was a practicing attorney in Utah
Speaker 3: and California for about thirteen years and was primarily a
Speaker 3: business litigator. We did a lot of cases that involved disputes,
Speaker 3: very very technical disputes between the various parties, and each
Speaker 3: side had their own expert witnesses. One of the things
Speaker 3: that lawyers do as a matter of trade is analyze
Speaker 3: the expert witnesses on both sides to find out how
Speaker 3: much of their testimony is coin operated, so to speak, yes,
Speaker 3: and how much of it is based on real science.
Speaker 3: And then of course you have to translate that for
Speaker 3: the benefit of a judge or jury who has no
Speaker 3: familiarity with the science in this particular case. So it's
Speaker 3: an interesting process and one that I learned a lot from.
Speaker 2: Our guest is Matt Warnick. Matt is the president of
Speaker 2: Ridgecrest Herbels. They've been around now for more than thirty
Speaker 2: years and they do some have some excellent formulations. And
Speaker 2: Matt's also involved with the National Health Federation, is on
Speaker 2: the board of Governor's National Health Federation. Very proud of
Speaker 2: comment on them. They really do our amazing work. They've
Speaker 2: managed to reduce the amount of aluminium food. They're opposed
Speaker 2: to synthetic meats that are coming out. They're concerned about
Speaker 2: glyphys aid in us being sprayed and also the amount
Speaker 2: of arsenic and glaphysate in the formulations. So they're doing
Speaker 2: amazing and they have a track recor since eighteen fifty five.
Speaker 2: So I'm happy to say that now in America and
Speaker 2: I guess around the world. You know, in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: the interested in interest in wellness, food, a cleaner environment, athletics,
Speaker 2: you know, has become much more popular than it was
Speaker 2: years ago in the seventies or eighties, when people were
Speaker 2: largely unaware or dismissive of this subject. Matt, So, what
Speaker 2: can we do right now? What can we do as
Speaker 2: just regular Americans to make sure that our health does
Speaker 2: get better? I mean, what are the ideas that you
Speaker 2: now take for granted that you didn't know when you
Speaker 2: were a young man.
Speaker 3: Well, when I was a young man, I was I
Speaker 3: was raised in the house that believed very much in science,
Speaker 3: very much followed conventional medicine, and my world was kind
Speaker 3: of turned on its head in two thousand when my
Speaker 3: mother was diagnosed as one of the victims of Fenn
Speaker 3: Fenn right, and that it was probably the first exposure
Speaker 3: that I had to the harm that can come from
Speaker 3: FDA approved medicines. That was a combination of two FDA
Speaker 3: approved medicines, both of which had been tested independently, but
Speaker 3: which had never been tested together, and together they caused
Speaker 3: massive heart valve and circulatory system problems for about a
Speaker 3: third of the people that took him. There were about
Speaker 3: six hundred thousand victims of fen Fenn and as I
Speaker 3: came to understand that and started to see some of
Speaker 3: the other recalls and various problems that had been experienced
Speaker 3: with conventional medicine. At the same time, I had stepped
Speaker 3: in to help my dad out with this company. He
Speaker 3: wanted to spend more time. My mom had been diagnosed
Speaker 3: and had been told she had eighteen to twenty four
Speaker 3: months to live was their best prognosis at the time,
Speaker 3: and so Dad wanted to spend more time with her,
Speaker 3: and I was I had just left law practice. I
Speaker 3: was so tired of moving one pocket one and moving
Speaker 3: money from one pocket to another, very expensively and very uncertainly,
Speaker 3: that I actually let my law license lapse because I
Speaker 3: did not want to be tempted to go back to
Speaker 3: that life. Oh OK, But I was trying to figure
Speaker 3: out what was the next chapter. And Dad was looking
Speaker 3: for somebody to step in and help out with Ridgecrest
Speaker 3: so that he could spend more time with Mom. So
Speaker 3: I willingly did that. I was very happy to do that,
Speaker 3: But at the time I thought that was both temporary
Speaker 3: and part time. It turned out to be neither.
Speaker 2: Our guest is mcwarnick. Matt is the president of Ridgecrest
Speaker 2: herbals Matt. So, for listeners of Here's Your Health, you
Speaker 2: mentioned Fenn Fenn. Just could you mention again what fen
Speaker 2: Fenn does in the body and why it was recommended
Speaker 2: for your mom.
Speaker 3: So it's a weight loss combination. It was the latest.
Speaker 3: It was like GLP one today right everybody was prescribing it.
Speaker 3: It was a combination of two different FDA approved ingredients,
Speaker 3: and folks that took it commonly experienced a short time
Speaker 3: later problems with heart valves, in many cases requiring the
Speaker 3: replacement of the heart valves. And as my mom had,
Speaker 3: it was called primary pulmonary hypertension, and it's high blood
Speaker 3: pressure but on the lung side so that it doesn't
Speaker 3: necessarily exhibit in the extremities, but it causes the same
Speaker 3: kind of damage in the lungs and in the heart
Speaker 3: and in the brain. My mom ultimately had two strokes
Speaker 3: from it and was bedridden for the last fourteen years
Speaker 3: of her life. She certainly outlived the doctor's expectations, but
Speaker 3: her quality of life was severely, severely compromised.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that sounds pretty awful. So a lot of
Speaker 2: people need to understand the consequences of taking medications prescribed
Speaker 2: by physicians that really are not carefully manufactured, not properly tested.
Speaker 2: If I could just jump in for a second, and
Speaker 2: let's say people are listening to you talk about your
Speaker 2: mom's illness and think, oh, okay, well, sorry, his mom
Speaker 2: wasn't ill. But you know, it's medication and there's always
Speaker 2: a small amount of side effects. But really we're talking
Speaker 2: about but really improperly tested medications given to hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of Americans, improperly tested. And also I can remember
Speaker 2: as a young man back in say the nineteen fifties
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties, the MDS took everyone's tonsils and appendix out
Speaker 2: and they said, oh, no, it's good science. You don't
Speaker 2: need the tonsils and the appendix is vestigial. They actually
Speaker 2: had the goal to say that. And the reason I
Speaker 2: mentioned that is because that was considered good science then,
Speaker 2: but now no one puts up with that. They recognize
Speaker 2: it wasn't science, but it was very profitable. I don't
Speaker 2: want to sound like a mean person when I say that,
Speaker 2: but obviously if they can make money on you and
Speaker 2: even hurt you, they don't seem to really care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of the Devil's algebra when you're counting
Speaker 3: up how many people you're going to kill, right and
Speaker 3: what you're going to have to pay out and figuring
Speaker 3: that into your calculations of whether the drug is going
Speaker 3: to be profitable or not. That to me is an
Speaker 3: area that I just would not want to go. And
Speaker 3: so when I stepped into this role, I was on
Speaker 3: the operation side. I was just making sure that we
Speaker 3: didn't run out of stock of clear lungs, some of
Speaker 3: those kinds of things, you know, using the MBA side
Speaker 3: of my training. I also got an MBA, but I
Speaker 3: hadn't had much chance to use it until I got
Speaker 3: involved in mergers and acquisitions work first and then later
Speaker 3: with Ridgecrest herbals. But as I was doing that, one
Speaker 3: of the first questions that came to my mind was, Okay,
Speaker 3: here we have two FDA approved drugs that cause this
Speaker 3: much damage when prescribed together. How do I know that
Speaker 3: the thirteen herbs in clear lungs, which have never been
Speaker 3: looked at or approved by the FDA? How do I
Speaker 3: know that those are safe when taken together? That was
Speaker 3: the thing that was keeping me up at night, and
Speaker 3: so I did what lawyers always do, dug into the
Speaker 3: science and tried to understand how these things could and
Speaker 3: would interact and what made traditional Chinese medicine different from
Speaker 3: American medicine. And a number of things came to me
Speaker 3: right away. One of them was that in Western medicine,
Speaker 3: we seem to always have an idea that more is better, okay,
Speaker 3: and we tend to give the biggest dose of something.
Speaker 3: We tend to whack things with AMers, and the Chinese
Speaker 3: approach is very different. It's much more preventative, it's much
Speaker 3: more gentle, it's much more measured, and the ingredients that
Speaker 3: they use are ingredients that they have experience with for
Speaker 3: at least hundreds, usually thousands of years. Herbal medicine is
Speaker 3: something that has been with us for sixty thousand years
Speaker 3: that we know of, and that means we know a
Speaker 3: lot more about those ingredients and how they work in
Speaker 3: the body than anything that comes off of a newly
Speaker 3: listed patent.
Speaker 2: Right, our guest is Matt Mornick. Matt is the president
Speaker 2: of Ridgecrest Herbals, and we're discussing, you know, what can
Speaker 2: we Americans do today to keep ourselves healthy. And one
Speaker 2: of the things we can do is, you know, healthy lifestyle,
Speaker 2: which we now take for granted that oh, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: we need to eat carefully and exercise, and most everyone
Speaker 2: kind of agrees that's not a big deal and we
Speaker 2: should be doing that. But years ago people were really
Speaker 2: rather dismissive of the idea. They thought all that the
Speaker 2: MD's would tell, you know, eat whatever you want. The
Speaker 2: MD's would say to you, no, it doesn't matter, missus Smith,
Speaker 2: it's calories in calories out, calories in calories out there,
Speaker 2: would say, because maybe a few of them still say that.
Speaker 2: And then you ask him a question, well, doc, if
Speaker 2: I have two thousand calories a day of vodka, will
Speaker 2: I be healthy? Usually they are. Usually, Usually they're quiet
Speaker 2: in one sentence. Usually they're quiet because they realized no, no, no,
Speaker 2: they're they're they're they're misinformed that they could just completely
Speaker 2: wrong calories of consideration much mo when Bortant his quality
Speaker 2: of carbohydrate, and I guess herbal medicine really kind of
Speaker 2: works with food as a healing tool. Matt. So now
Speaker 2: that it's too twenty twenty six, and we suffered with
Speaker 2: the COVID pandemic four or five years ago, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people really suffered. Do you think that, for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, we're in a place now historically in the
Speaker 2: United States that's never happened before that many more people
Speaker 2: are now interested in preventative measures.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, absolutely. I think the world has changed since COVID.
Speaker 3: I think, uh, I think the medical establishment so clearly
Speaker 3: overstepped their bounds that I think a lot of people
Speaker 3: saw what's really going on there and didn't like it,
Speaker 3: so I think I think there are some drastic changes
Speaker 3: that have taken place. And you know, prior to COVID,
Speaker 3: I didn't know the NHF existed. The National Health Federation.
Speaker 3: I learned about that at a thirty year retrospective on
Speaker 3: Dushay and I learned what role they played along with
Speaker 3: a couple of other citizens organizations back at that time
Speaker 3: in getting to Shay passed. And as soon as I
Speaker 3: found out, I thought, this is an organization I need
Speaker 3: to learn more about and get involved with. So that's
Speaker 3: when I dived in. I immediately ran out and bought
Speaker 3: a lifetime membership and have been involved with them ever since.
Speaker 3: Was elected to the Board of Governors recently. What an
Speaker 3: opportunity to hang out with people who have been fighting
Speaker 3: this battle much longer than me. Right, It's an amazing experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the National Health Federation excellent, important organization. That's a
Speaker 2: that's interesting history. And also you made an interesting statement.
Speaker 2: You said that most people or people now are concerned
Speaker 2: that mds are overstating their authority. That's an interesting statement
Speaker 2: to make, and it's I think it's actually very succinct
Speaker 2: and actually correctly said. But that did not I mean
Speaker 2: years ago, if the md said do this, people just
Speaker 2: did it. But now they think, no, maybe I shouldn't
Speaker 2: be giving my forty eight hour old baby, you know,
Speaker 2: ten injections on the same day, and that it seems
Speaker 2: very obviously you shouldn't. But really, fifteen years ago, maybe
Speaker 2: people said no, no, the md know what they're doing. And
Speaker 2: now people think, no, no, we don't want to do
Speaker 2: that to the baby. We don't want to give a
Speaker 2: baby hepatitis vaccine today. The baby's you know, two days old.
Speaker 2: Maybe we could give it to them, maybe when the
Speaker 2: baby's sixteen or something, if then, but not at forty
Speaker 2: eight hours. And people would never have done that years ago.
Speaker 2: And now people think, no, listen, thanks doc. You know,
Speaker 2: if I break my arm, I'll call you. But otherwise
Speaker 2: they think, no, no, no, we got to keep an
Speaker 2: eye on them, which is really kind of a surprising
Speaker 2: change for the mds. People think, well, maybe they're just
Speaker 2: business guys.
Speaker 3: You know. The funny thing is, I don't even think
Speaker 3: it's the mds because the mds, at least most of
Speaker 3: the ones that I've met, have their hearts in the
Speaker 3: right place. The problem is they have come through an
Speaker 3: institutional educational system that has trained them to think a
Speaker 3: certain way, and many of them don't question it. Some
Speaker 3: of them do. If they do, they quickly discover. I
Speaker 3: know an MD who says I was lied to, Oh well,
Speaker 3: and she is actively pursuing herbal medicine today as opposed
Speaker 3: to what she was taught in school. Right, you know
Speaker 3: of mds today do not belong to the American Medical Association.
Speaker 3: I do not know that yet. The American Medical Association
Speaker 3: is still pushing for a lot of the control kinds
Speaker 3: of issues. They're the ones that administer the payer codes
Speaker 3: that make our insurance system work. It's very coin operated.
Speaker 3: But mds take the Hippocratic oath. Nurses take a variant
Speaker 3: of the Hippocratic oath, and that oath says you put
Speaker 3: patients first. That same oath is not taken by drug
Speaker 3: company executives. It's not taken by insurance company executives. It's
Speaker 3: not taken by hospital administrators. It's not taken by lots
Speaker 3: of folks that are intimately involved in our healthcare. And
Speaker 3: that's why I say, well, what we have today is
Speaker 3: a monopoly that's administered by the federal government, the FDA.
Speaker 3: They decide what the choices are, and we get to
Speaker 3: pick from those choices. There was a famous crooked politician
Speaker 3: that ran Tammany Hall and in the Gilded Age, Tammany
Speaker 3: Hall ran New York and he said, I don't care
Speaker 3: who does the voting, as long as I get to
Speaker 3: do the nominating. Right. Well, it's the same kind of
Speaker 3: thing in this situation. If you set the menu, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what they order off the menu. You control
Speaker 3: the meal. That's a monopoly and that creates monopoly pricing,
Speaker 3: and that's why we pay more here in the United
Speaker 3: States than anywhere else in the world.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: I'd like to thank my guest Matt Warnick, who really
Speaker 2: very clearly and accurately stated that the problem and what's
Speaker 2: occurring and who's profiting really very nicely stated Matt Warnick.
Speaker 2: He is the president of Ridgecrest Herbels, an herbal company
Speaker 2: but around a long time known for the excellent formulations.
Speaker 2: And Matt's also a member of the board of governors
Speaker 2: of the National Health Federation, an excellent important organization. I'd
Speaker 2: like you all listeners please investigate the National Health Federation.
Speaker 2: You'll find they're doing some very good work. This is
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Speaker 2: Welcome to this edition of Here Is to Your Health.
Speaker 2: I'm your host Josh Laane and my guest is Scott Tips.
Speaker 2: Scott Tips is the president of the National Health Federation
Speaker 2: and Scott Tips is a regular contributor to the show.
Speaker 2: And the National Health Federation is possibly America's most important
Speaker 2: consumer protection organization and also around the world, and they've
Speaker 2: been working to help us keep us healthy since nineteen
Speaker 2: fifty five. They help keep homeopathy available to us in
Speaker 2: the United States. They help protect the chiropractic profession. They
Speaker 2: really are doing excellent work to minimize you so or
Speaker 2: end the use of life for say, it's amazing the
Speaker 2: important things that the National Health Federation is doing to
Speaker 2: protect us. And Scott Tips is the president of the
Speaker 2: National Health Federation and he is the one who travels
Speaker 2: to the CODEX meetings in Rome or in Europe and
Speaker 2: of course in Asia to help speak for US as
Speaker 2: a consumer protection organization. Scott Tips, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Joshua, Yeah, thanks so, Matt, very happy to
Speaker 2: have you on. Always great discussion and important ideas. And
Speaker 2: if we let's just jump into this right away. So
Speaker 2: the whole idea of lab grown meat, so it's not
Speaker 2: really meat, but it's you know, it's lab grown meat
Speaker 2: that some people are trying to push on us, which
Speaker 2: there's also people are not really interested in adopting it.
Speaker 2: But were you in Seoul, South Korea when that subject
Speaker 2: came up and what did the National Health Federation do
Speaker 2: about the subject.
Speaker 9: I was there in HF representing NHF at that meeting
Speaker 9: thanks to one of our benefactors who paid for that
Speaker 9: expensive to get there. And one of the main issues
Speaker 9: was of course lab grown Frankenstein meat and it as
Speaker 9: a new food source. And as we pointed out to
Speaker 9: some three hundred delegates, is that this kind of lab
Speaker 9: grown meat is made with immortalized cells which can have
Speaker 9: some carcinogenic implications. So if they want to proceed doing
Speaker 9: something like this, they have to assess the risks far
Speaker 9: more diligently than they have been and they just give
Speaker 9: it a pass. Oh, what a wonderful new thing. The
Speaker 9: food security issue. They don't realize, with their fixation on
Speaker 9: food security, that they create more problems than they solved.
Speaker 9: In fact two, was it Thomas Soule who said once
Speaker 9: quite wisely, he said, yesterday's solutions are today's problems. Oh
Speaker 9: good quote that time after a time.
Speaker 3: Wow wow.
Speaker 2: So our guest is Scott tips Of, President of the
Speaker 2: National Health Federation. Now, Scott, you made an important statement.
Speaker 2: I was not familiar with what is the problem with
Speaker 2: the lab grown so called meat. You said, what kind
Speaker 2: of what kind of cell lines are problematic?
Speaker 9: They use immortal cell lines so they can keep growing.
Speaker 2: Yet, okay, I don't understand that. Can you explain what
Speaker 2: that means?
Speaker 9: Well, that means you know, most most cells have a
Speaker 9: lifespan okay, and then there's aptosis that will in your body,
Speaker 9: the process of that that will get rid of these
Speaker 9: used up sinescent cells. And that's part of the process
Speaker 9: of living. You know, cells are created cells de cells
Speaker 9: are then disposed of by the body if your body's
Speaker 9: working correctly. All except for two kinds of cells, Like
Speaker 9: when a fetal cell fetus is growing, they have kind
Speaker 9: of an immortal cell, and then they're the cancer cells,
Speaker 9: which are essentially immortal. So how do they make these
Speaker 9: lab grown meats about, you know, running into a problem.
Speaker 9: They use immortal cells, these oncogenic genes that basically keep
Speaker 9: making this so we don't know what happens to normal people,
Speaker 9: regular people like you and me. If we're eating these
Speaker 9: immortalized cells, well, they then create carcinogenic situations, cancer in
Speaker 9: our bodies. No one really knows. They think, oh, it'll
Speaker 9: all be fine, full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes. It'll
Speaker 9: be wonderful. And so the article that I wrote on
Speaker 9: it said was entitled a bright shiny Cure beckons And
Speaker 9: this is what dazzles a lot of people at Codex
Speaker 9: and a lot of scientists. Oh, I've discovered something new
Speaker 9: and wonderful. Let's go forward, and oh these naysayers, they're awful.
Speaker 9: They're they're trying to just throw obstacles in our past
Speaker 9: instead of thinking that maybe Thomas Soul's right and these
Speaker 9: solutions are actually going to be tomorrow's problems.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a very nice that's a I never
Speaker 2: actually heard that statement, and I think it's completely real.
Speaker 2: Our guest is Scott Tips. Scott Tips regular contributor to
Speaker 2: the show, and Scott Tips is the president of the
Speaker 2: National Health Federation, the National Health Federation protecting the American
Speaker 2: consumer and the consumer around the globe since nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 2: So what is the status now of these lab grown meats?
Speaker 2: Because as I as I see it when I go
Speaker 2: to the grocery store, four or five or six years ago,
Speaker 2: there were a lot of them in the frozen food section,
Speaker 2: and now there are a lot less of them. People
Speaker 2: just weren't buying them. Is that correct?
Speaker 9: Well, that is correct if it's properly labeled. The problem
Speaker 9: is that a lot of this is not being sold
Speaker 9: in grocery stores in America today.
Speaker 2: And what do you mean it's not properly labeled, so
Speaker 2: they don't tell you it's lab grown meat.
Speaker 3: No, they don't.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what do they put on a label?
Speaker 9: They just say beef?
Speaker 2: Really, how can that's not or how could they do that?
Speaker 9: They don't tell people, They don't disclose. That's one of
Speaker 9: the things the National Health Federation is working towards is
Speaker 9: that the consumer should be a knowledgeable so that he
Speaker 9: or she can make a choice, an informed choice, and
Speaker 9: by doing so, that allows the free market to work.
Speaker 9: That is, if people don't want this product, then, like
Speaker 9: you said earlier, it'll go by the by the wayside.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Scott, let me jump in here. So you're saying,
Speaker 2: if someone goes to the grocery store and they buy
Speaker 2: I'm making this up ground beef or ground pork, they
Speaker 2: might have things in it that are not beef and pork.
Speaker 2: Is that how they sneak it in? How could they
Speaker 2: possibly sneak it in?
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, technically, it's in one sense it's the
Speaker 9: our pork. Oh oh, I say, but it's not the
Speaker 9: way you think it is. And I don't think it's
Speaker 9: very widespread. Let me be clear. Okay, it's not very
Speaker 9: widespread at the moment.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I had no idea actually that was even allowed. Well,
Speaker 2: I'll guess it's Scott Tips, president of the National Health Federation.
Speaker 2: So what was the upshot when you were in Seul,
Speaker 2: South Korea speaking about these immortal cell lines. How did
Speaker 2: it go with the other delegates?
Speaker 9: Some of the delegates, about a third of them probably
Speaker 9: agreed with us, another third that went over their heads,
Speaker 9: and another third firmly believes that whatever the Codex Science
Speaker 9: Officer says should be followed. Okay, this is one of
Speaker 9: the problems what I call a trap at CODEX. Their
Speaker 9: Codex delegates there to forget that they are decision making bosses,
Speaker 9: and what they do is they just defer on scientific
Speaker 9: issues to the Codex Science Officer, who's only the risk assessor.
Speaker 9: The Codex delegates and the Codex committees and the commission
Speaker 9: are the risk managers, so they can be apprised of
Speaker 9: what the risks are. But the ones who actually make
Speaker 9: the decision as to whether to assume the risk or
Speaker 9: not are the risk managers, which would be the Codex delegates.
Speaker 9: But for decades, all I've heard is this nonsense from
Speaker 9: some of the some of the Codex delegates that, oh,
Speaker 9: will be insulting the Codex Science officer if we don't
Speaker 9: accept one hundred percent what he or she says. They
Speaker 9: genuflect at the altar of Codex science and they don't
Speaker 9: use their own heads, are their own judgment a decision,
Speaker 9: they've just deferred it. They kicked the can to the
Speaker 9: into the corner of the Codex Science officer, which is
Speaker 9: usually the FAO or the WHO Codex office. And don't
Speaker 9: get me wrong, those Codex officers can be quite informed,
Speaker 9: but they can also be quite right. So you do
Speaker 9: have to make decisions and not defer just to them.
Speaker 2: All right. Our guest is Scott Tips. Scott Tips, President
Speaker 2: of the National Health Federation. Now, Scott, you have been
Speaker 2: I think you've been president of the National Health Federation
Speaker 2: for eighteen years. Uh, you have been, you know, going
Speaker 2: to these meetings for a very long time now. A
Speaker 2: lot of people don't know this. As a consumer safety
Speaker 2: advocate protection advocate, is the National Federation one of the
Speaker 2: very few consumer organizations representing us at these meetings.
Speaker 9: We're probably the only one representing you at the me
Speaker 9: And I've been president of the NHF almost nineteen and
Speaker 9: a half years, and I've been going to these CODEX
Speaker 9: meetings for over twenty six years back. I'm probably one
Speaker 9: of the most experienced CODEX delegates at these meetings. Yeah,
Speaker 9: we're the only ones. There are some other consumer routs there.
Speaker 9: They don't go to as many meetings as we go to,
Speaker 9: and their attitude is more specialized. These are most of
Speaker 9: them are only interested in the infant formulas for babies,
Speaker 9: and they're quite good on this topic in many ways,
Speaker 9: and we're actually ally there on that topic. But when
Speaker 9: it comes to mineral and vitamin mineral supplements, there are
Speaker 9: enemies really because they think these are toxic substances that
Speaker 9: need to be heavily regulated by the government.
Speaker 2: I see, Wow, I did not know that. Our guest
Speaker 2: is Scott Tips. Scott Tips, president of the National Health Federation,
Speaker 2: and so now SOUL is one of only one of
Speaker 2: the places where you travel around the globe to help
Speaker 2: protect the American people and people around the world. Now,
Speaker 2: one thing I discovered which I didn't realize until I
Speaker 2: realized you had you talked about it was glyphasate is
Speaker 2: so heavily used around the world, but certainly the United
Speaker 2: States and more and more people recognize the dangers of glyphasate.
Speaker 2: But Also, you mentioned that besides glyphasate in these pesticides,
Speaker 2: there is also arsenic in the pesticides, and I did
Speaker 2: not realize that was a problem linked with glyphosate.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is when they make when they manufacture round up,
Speaker 9: they put not just glyclessate, but arsenic in there. Now,
Speaker 9: I think, since it's come to light that this is
Speaker 9: their practice, they've changed. I'm not sure what they've changed,
Speaker 9: but they have changed the formulation for round up, but
Speaker 9: it's still deadly. Round Up is more dangerous than glocs
Speaker 9: state alone, which in turn is more than which is
Speaker 9: dangerous enough. So's it's kind of funny how they they
Speaker 9: try to stay ahead of the curve. And of course
Speaker 9: they trict President Trump into signing on an executive order
Speaker 9: that this is a matter of national defense and we
Speaker 9: cannot sue these purveyors of poisons who are just poisoning
Speaker 9: us to our early graves.
Speaker 2: Right right, Our guest is Scott Tips. Scott Tips, President
Speaker 2: of the National Health Federation. Scott, were you surprised that
Speaker 2: the White House the Administration destarted to protect the glify
Speaker 2: state manufacturers. That was kind of a surprise, wasn't it.
Speaker 9: Well, in a way, it was in a way, it wasn't.
Speaker 9: You have Susie Wiles as the gatekeeper. Is the White
Speaker 9: House office manager there who acts as the gatekeeper for
Speaker 9: anyone to see and then imps here. There are a
Speaker 9: lot of people who say that Trump makes a decision
Speaker 9: on the last person he spokes to. I don't believe that,
Speaker 9: but if true, it would sure make Susie Wilds so
Speaker 9: very powerful. Keep in mind she was a lobby acco
Speaker 9: industry in the past. Yeah, and she also worked as
Speaker 9: a lot in firms that represented the pesticide industry.
Speaker 2: Right right, Our guest is Scott Tips. Scott Tips, president
Speaker 2: of the National Health Federation. Now, Scott, I think I
Speaker 2: think many Americans are also surprised, would be surprised to
Speaker 2: hear that arsenic arsenicals used in pesticides, I guess since
Speaker 2: the nineteen forties might be major links and causing problems
Speaker 2: with our neurological problems, including polio and Parkinson's. Is there
Speaker 2: any any research on that that you feel is valid?
Speaker 9: Yeah, there is. I'm not fully up to date. We're
Speaker 9: up to speed on on that. I certainly wasn't prepared
Speaker 9: to discuss that at this.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, No, problem.
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's there are studies on that. I mean,
Speaker 9: even polio, which was blamed on a virus, looks like
Speaker 9: in retrospect that the tracted down to light based herbicides
Speaker 9: and fungicides that were sprayed on crops and in gardens,
Speaker 9: especially in northeastern United States. And that's where President Roosevelt,
Speaker 9: Franklin Roosevelt picked up folio. It wasn't because kind of virus,
Speaker 9: is because he was exposed when they go to Dantucket
Speaker 9: or Martha's vineyard or wherever it was he would go
Speaker 9: for holidays, that he was exposed to these toxic chemicals.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see, I do not know. Well, okay, it's
Speaker 2: amazing how these chemicals have been affecting us for a
Speaker 2: long time. Our guest is Scott Tips. Scott Tips, President
Speaker 2: of the National Health Federation. I'm happy to say that
Speaker 2: I'm a member of the National Health Federation. Is really
Speaker 2: a great group helping us protect us since fifty five,
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five. Scott. Now, something I always like to
Speaker 2: mention on these conversations about the use of aluminum in
Speaker 2: foods and the good work that you personally did to
Speaker 2: minimize the use of aluminum food could you please talk
Speaker 2: about that and tell us why aluminus so damaging for us.
Speaker 9: Well, aluminum is not naturally occurring in nature. It actually
Speaker 9: occurs as a box sight in the ground. So we
Speaker 9: have to process it and the body has a very
Speaker 9: hard time eliminating it from its you know, from the system.
Speaker 9: So once you get it in, it accumulates. You'd have
Speaker 9: to do kulation therapy, heavy coulation therapy to get it
Speaker 9: out of your system, or maybe take IP six to
Speaker 9: glom onto the aluminum to get it out. And this
Speaker 9: along with mercury. You know, a lot of the problem
Speaker 9: here is that people, scientists, researchers aren't looking at these
Speaker 9: things synergistically. They're looking at the substances in isolation. That's
Speaker 9: part of the traps of CODEX. Another trap of Codex
Speaker 9: is it adopts standards based upon studies of these toxic
Speaker 9: substances in isolation and not working together with others. There
Speaker 9: are no studies done on that, so it's it's a
Speaker 9: huge problem. But aluminum, Yeah, it's very hard to get
Speaker 9: out of the system, and it triggers the immune system
Speaker 9: to act and it keeps well. What happens is they
Speaker 9: put aluminum in vaccines to trigger the immune system, so
Speaker 9: they get an immune reaction. But the problem is they're
Speaker 9: they're injecting this toxic illumina them into your body. It's
Speaker 9: just simply not for the costs by doing it.
Speaker 2: I guess it's scotch Tips. Scott Tips, president of the
Speaker 2: National Health Federation, a great important consumer group for US.
Speaker 2: So you just made a statement that aluminum does not
Speaker 2: exist in nature. Can you kind of just clarify that.
Speaker 2: We would kind of mention that again, would you.
Speaker 9: If you go out, aluminum does not naturally exist in nature.
Speaker 9: They spray it out of planes, they spray it and
Speaker 9: certain chemicals that are used. It's certainly in vaccines, but
Speaker 9: aluminum is not naturally occurring. You can't go and dig
Speaker 9: up aluminum like you dig up gold, a gold nugget,
Speaker 9: or silver, or iron or even lead. You have to
Speaker 9: dig up box height and then it's heavily processed by
Speaker 9: the industry to produce this lightweight, non rusting mineral called aluminum.
Speaker 9: And so that's where it comes from. But now you'll
Speaker 9: find it in the Pacific Northwest and in northern California.
Speaker 9: They've studied the soils that are there. They've found that
Speaker 9: it's like six something like, and don't hold me to
Speaker 9: the exact number, but it's something like six more than
Speaker 9: sixteen times a thousand times higher the concentration of aluminum
Speaker 9: in the soil than they had expected to find sixteen thousand.
Speaker 9: So where's that coming from? A people have to ask.
Speaker 9: It's not natural, and then you eat foods that are
Speaker 9: grown in such soil and you will assimilate a lot
Speaker 9: of this aluminum. So anyway, it's a huge danger. But
Speaker 9: we were a bullet you first hinted at when you
Speaker 9: introduced the subject to this interview. We were successful in
Speaker 9: getting aluminum out of about roughly seventy five percent of
Speaker 9: the foods on the market, and we did that at CODEX.
Speaker 9: We got it eliminated fifty percent eliminated outright, and the
Speaker 9: other fifty percent they were the aluminum levels were reduced
Speaker 9: by fifty percent. So that's where I get the seventy
Speaker 9: five percent figure from, and that was at the CODEX
Speaker 9: Committee on Pest side Residues. Now, since most countries harmonize
Speaker 9: their food standards to those of CODECS, this is a
Speaker 9: very important thing and that's why we make the claim
Speaker 9: of the seventy five percent reduction.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Our guest is Scott Tips. Scott Tips regular contributed to
Speaker 2: the show. I'm very proud to say, and Scott is
Speaker 2: the president of the National Health Federation, America's oldest consumer
Speaker 2: protection organization, helping us since nineteen fifty five. We kind
Speaker 2: of ran out of time because we don't need time
Speaker 2: to really talk about homeopathy. Scott at this juncture, how
Speaker 2: can listeners have Here's to your health? Contact the National
Speaker 2: Health Federation directly to find out more about your great work.
Speaker 9: Well, thank you to help to contact us at the
Speaker 9: NHF dot com. You can go to our website. We
Speaker 9: have an upcoming Codex meeting in about three weeks in Geneva, Switzerland,
Speaker 9: the Codex Elementarius Commission that I will be going to
Speaker 9: for all of you listening there and represent your interests
Speaker 9: and be a voice for you for greater help. The
Speaker 9: other thing is you can email us at contact us,
Speaker 9: contact dash us or hyphen us at the NHF dot com.
Speaker 9: Contact hyphens ATVNHF dot com and we could use your
Speaker 9: support because it's not free to go to these meetings.
Speaker 3: It costs us a.
Speaker 9: Lot of money to fly around the world and intervene
Speaker 9: at these meetings and try to set some of these
Speaker 9: delegates straight, or to join in with the delegates who
Speaker 9: are straight, argue at their sides right for good health.
Speaker 2: Our guest has been Scott Tips. Scott Tips, President of
Speaker 2: the National Health Federation, the National Health Federation, founder of
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five America's premiere health protection organization. I'm proud
Speaker 2: to be a member of the National Health Federation, and
Speaker 2: i would like all the listeners of History Health to
Speaker 2: inquire about the great work of the National Health Federation
Speaker 2: and join the National Health Federation. I'd like to thank
Speaker 2: Scott Tips for being a regular contributor to the show.
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