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your support. Alrightye, let's let's talk about the group chat,

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not the text line, but the group chat. You know,

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the group chat I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Yeah,

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I've been waiting. I've been sort of compiling stuff on

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this story ever since it popped two days ago over

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at Politico. And a couple of things. Number one, I

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am not a registered Republican. I don't move in the

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Republican park. These circles. I don't know who these people are,

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these young Republicans. They seem to be apparently mostly from

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the New York area, it seems like, So I don't

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know who these people are. I don't know the structure

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of the young Republicans and the different branches and whatever.

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I don't follow all of that stuff. I don't know

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the structure. However, I can say that in politics, just

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like anything else, when a party, when a political party

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gains power, it attracts people who are in love with power,

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and they don't really care about the ideology. They don't

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care about the principles. They have maybe some sociopathic, psychopathic

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tendencies personalities, right, so they don't really they don't really

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care to advance the cause. They are there to advance

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their own position, and they will use whatever philosophy or

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principles that are at play in order to serve themselves. Okay,

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and this was I noticed this back in you know,

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twenty five years ago, when the Republicans were ascendant in

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the early two thousands, and they started attracting a lot

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of these different people, and it was kind of like, wait,

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wait a minute, who are these people? What are they saying?

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And that doesn't seem very limited government? D you know

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that kind of thing. I've talked about the quote woke

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right before on this program. And for people who aren't aware,

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these are people that ostensibly call themselves members of the

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right or conservatives or whatever, but they adopt the same

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tactics as the woke left. They view themselves as perpetual victims, right,

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they view themselves as oppressed. They do the same sorts

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of things that the woke left does, silencing people, deplatforming people.

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And there is a very wide strain of anti Semitism

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that is running through that side of the spectrum this

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and it's called the horseshoe political horseshoe theory, where it's

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sort of like, you have your extremes and it bends

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back towards each other. Which is why you're starting to

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see people on the left quoting and embracing even Marjorie

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Taylor Green because she's saying that Matt Gates, Tucker Carlson

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right there, sat Candice Owens. Because those people on the

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right quote unquote the right are saying things the people

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on the left also agree with. That's why it's woke, right.

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They are emerging their meeting sort of at the top

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of the horseshoe or bottom, depending on how you're holding

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the horseshoe. I guess all right, So the story from

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the Politico headline, I Love Hitler, Laked messages expose young

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Republicans racist chat. This is like twelve pages long. It's

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a very lengthy story thousands of pages of texts Okay,

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that political apparently got from an internal private chat group

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between that included a bunch of these Young Republicans. Leaders

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of Young Republican groups throughout the country worried what would

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happen if their telegram chat ever got leaked, but they

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kept typing anyway. They referred to black people. I'm not

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even going to say these things that they referred to them,

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ask I'm not going to say it, but it's not good.

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It is what you would think. It's all of the

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racial stereotypes and the words, the slurs that are used.

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They use those words and slurs. They mused about putting

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their political opponents in gas chambers. They talked about raping

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their enemies and driving them to suicide, and lauded Republicans

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who they believed support slavery. Then they start naming a

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bunch of these people. William Hendrix, the Kansas Young Republicans

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vice chair, used variations of the N word more than

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a dozen times. Bobby Walker, the vice chair of the

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New York State Young Republicans, referred to rape as epic.

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Peter Jijunta, who at the time was chair of the

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same organization in New York wrote in a message sent

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in June that everyone that votes know is going to

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the gas chamber. Okay, let me stop right here and

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say a lot of this stuff is done in humor. Okay,

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I don't endorse any of this. And by the way,

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they're like, oh my gosh, people are now losing their

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posts in these organizations. And here's the thing I believe

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they should. You're going to step up and you're going

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to engage in this kind of political operation. You need

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to understand that there are things that you need to

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say and make jokes about because it will be weaponized

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against you. And this is one of the other elements

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of the quote unquote woke right, is that there are

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actors inside that I don't want to say movement, but

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over there in that crowd that are pushing you, pushing

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people to go there. When it comes to Nazism, racism

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and all that. Right, they want you to say these

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things and participate in these kinds of things because it

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will remove you from the battlefield. That's the point. It

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will make you toxic and now you're off the field.

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There is a level of psychological warfare going on with

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the with social media and if you don't understand that,

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you do not belong in politics. Okay, And that, by

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the way, how this obviously got leaked is some guy

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I think his name is Gavin Wax. There are different

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divisions inside the Young Republicans and some other groups or whatever,

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and they were vying for power and that's where so

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this one group that's where these texts came from apparently

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got leaked to Politico by another Republican. Okay, So like

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there's that level. And some of these people in the

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group chats say that they're not so sure that some

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of these chats, some of these messages weren't doctored. So

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I keep that in mind as well. The exchange is

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part of a trove of telegram chats, and I'm not

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going to go over all of the offensive stuff. I

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will just tell you that there were really offensive things

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in there. But there are also things in there that

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I think were jokes that were obviously jokes, Like the

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headline that they pull is I love Hitler. That's what

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they say. But this exchange was when the Kansas State

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chair informs this guy, Peter Jjunta, that one of Michigan's

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Young Republicans promised him that the group will vote for

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the most right wing person to lead the national organization.

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He responded, quote, great, I love Hitler, So that's a joke. Like,

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I get that, that's a joke. They're like, they're going

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to vote for whoever is the most right wing and

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he's like, well, can't get more right wing than Hitler.

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So I love him. You know, that's a joke. Some

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of the other stuff not so much. Not so much.

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The exchange is part of this trove that Politico got

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spending seven months of messages coming from Republican these young

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Republican leaders which by the way, I've never heard of

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any of these people, Okay, but Democrats in the media.

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But I repeat myself, they want this to be a huge,

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huge thing, right, They want this to be as big

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as Jay Jones well, which they don't really of her,

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so no, but they are all in on this story.

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And like, I recognize the double standard, right, I recognize

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that you guys are paying all this attention to these

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no name young Republican guys and gals that were in

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this group chat saying awful things, and you're you're demanding

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you know that all the Republicans play defender disavow with

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these no name people that nobody knows. But when it

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comes to Jay Jones, you're not holding any Democrats accountable.

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You're not making them play defender dissavow. And when in fact,

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you try to get Abigail Spanberger running for governor on

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the ticket with Jay Jones, who wished murder on a

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Republican and the murder of his two children in front

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of his family, nowhere to be found. When Spanberger's asked

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about it, she refuses to say he should drop out, right,

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So they don't. They're not being held to that standard.

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So now you've got people on the woke right quote

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unquote woke right. You've got people over there that are like, well,

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you know what, Well, then we're going to defend our guys.

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We're going to say they did nothing wrong, we don't care.

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We're not going to give them up. We're not going

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to throw them under the bus. We're not going to

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disavow any of the things that they said. We're we're

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not playing by your rules. You're demanding that we do

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this thing, and we're not going to do it. See.

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So here's the thing. I don't need anybody to tell

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me to do that. I me personally, like, I'm going

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to look at what they said and I'm going to say, yeah,

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that's disqualifying. You shouldn't be around politics. That's just toxic crap.

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You shouldn't say that. That's my opinion. You can have

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a different opinion, but enter the woke right where now

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it's like you have to take our position, Pete. You

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have to say what we are telling you to say.

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And that's when I start saying, you guys are sounding

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a lot like the left now because I don't have

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to say that, actually don't. I don't have to defend

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these guys. I don't have to endorse what they said.

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I don't have to get any of that on me.

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I didn't do that. I wouldn't do that. See, that's

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the fight that's now happening, and the left is urging

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and goading and rooting for this. That's what they want

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to see happen because it's a convenient deflection away from

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the J. Jones story, which by the way, is worse

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than this right. So don't let here's the thing. If

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you're like, I'm not going to pay any attention to

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the chat, I'm not going to pay attention to this story.

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You're going to say that, then you allow the left

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off the hook too, because now you don't get to say,

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what about Jay Jones. You don't get to say that,

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which is precisely why the left is doing what they're

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doing and pushing this story. I don't have to pick See,

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this is the thing. This is a false dichotomy. You know,

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me with false choices. I do not like them. I

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resist them. This is a false choice. I can say

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all of this is wrong. You shouldn't be talking like

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this because it's not decent. It's just not decent. Be

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a decent person. That's all. Minimum requirement, just minimum requirement.

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all right. The Politico argument and by the way, article,

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I understand what Politico is doing by publishing the article

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as well. See here again, this is a false choice

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for me to have to quote pick a side. Okay,

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I can see what Politico is doing with the story,

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and I can see what the what the internal divisions

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are as told to the Politico reporter. This has to

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do with an with an intramural fight inside the Young

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Republican groups. Okay, there are personality conflicts. They are vying

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for power. They want positions in these different caucuses or

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conferences whatever they call them. Right, and so the lead

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of all this stuff was meant to destroy their opponents

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inside the Republican Party. Okay, so there's like this internecine

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war going on among these people. I don't know any

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of them, I don't care to know any of them.

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Doesn't matter to me. But I can also see what

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Politico is doing. Okay, together, this is the Politico article. Together,

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The messages reveal a culture. See what they're doing. They're

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broadening the lens. They're going to say, this is why

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these six people and their messages that are vile. Even

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if it's an attempt at humor. Some of this stuff

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is not an attempted humor. It's just not. And here's

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the thing. If you want to be a comedian, then

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go take your material where you're dropping N bombs everywhere,

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you're calling people racial slurs, right, go ahead and take

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this material to the comedy seller or your local comedy joint.

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Go ahead and use that material on a stage in

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front of people. Do that there and see how it flies.

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If you want to test out this comedic value, if

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you are in an organization, particularly a political one, whose

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goal is to build coalitions and get people elected so

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they can then wield power, right, then this is not

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the way you behave. I don't care how old you are.

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And some of these people are in their thirties, okay,

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like the young Republicans. These are people that are like

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from their twenties all the way up to forty years old. Okay.

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So it's not like they're just you know, youthful indiscretion

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they're fourteen year olds or something. That's No, that's not

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what's happening here. These are guys and gals in their

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you know, mid twenties up to early thirties. In other words,

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they should know better not just by their age, but

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also by the mere fact that you are in a

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professional organization where optics matter. Do not ever write anything

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in an email that you don't want to see published

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on the front page of the paper. That those are

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words to live by. Okay, even Hunter Biden understood this.

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You don't put it in an email. You talk about

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it over the phone. You want to try out this

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material with your buddy, you want to call them all

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sorts of names in jests and stuff. Do it over

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the phone, say it to him. Although now you can

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probably just record the conversations easily. But here's what Politico

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is trying to do. They want to broaden this out

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and smear everybody with this. The messages reveal a culture

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where racist, anti semitic, and violent rhetorics circulate freely. Here

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you go, and where the Trump era loosening of political

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norms has made such talk feel less taboo among those

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positioning themselves as the party's next leader. So there you go.

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It's Trump's fault. Trump made these people make anti semitic

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and racisty comment. It's Trump's fault. No mention of j Jones,

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no mention of the stochastic terrorism framework here that politico

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is constructing right when it comes to Democrats, No, no, no,

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See this is meant as an inoculation against Democrats. Focus

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on this, everybody, Focus on these evil young Republican chats

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so we don't have to talk about Jay Jones wanting

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to murder his Republican opponents while he wins the attorney

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general race in Virginia. So when I was a kid,

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to me. I participate in the annual walk to and

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Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year,

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at thepetepod dot com. There's also a link in the

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This is why we walk. Talking about the the Young

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Republicans group chat. Yeah, and I got a message here

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from the hellion on the text line, who says, my

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young video game friends are ruthless on Discord, which is

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a messaging and voice app. I mean, they say awful

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things to each other. It's all in fun. They hope

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somebody leaks theirs. Yeah, then keep it on Discord, use

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your you know, gamer tag, use some anonymous name and

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do it there. But again, hanging out with your friends

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in a gaming chat room and dragging each other with

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all sorts of offensive slurs, that's a different setting than

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a group chat with all of the state party chairs

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and vice chairs and all these poohbahs in your political organization.

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And they knew this. By the way, Let me go

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to the end of the Politico article, which, like seven

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pages in Politico, does acknowledge. Many of the slurs, epithets,

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and violent language used in the chat often appear to

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be intended as jokes, and I agree with that they

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were sure. In one instance, one of the members said

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about bombing the Young Republican National Federation's convention in Nashville

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and said, just kidding for our assigned FBI tracker. Right,

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So he makes a joke about blowing up the place

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if they don't win their local, their you know, organization's

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election or whatever, and then makes a joke that the

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FBI is monitoring the group chat. In another, he considered

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the totality of the thousands of messages he and his

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peers had written and what would happen if the public

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saw them come to light. Quote, if we ever had

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a leak of this chat, we would be cooked. Yes, correct?

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Why would you say that? Because you know what you're

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saying would not be received well. And when you are

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in the business as these people are, of building a

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coalition and trying to persuade people that yours is the

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better philosophy, yours is the better way of governing, and

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you are the better candidates to lead people, then this

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sort of thing does not resonate with everybody. It's damaging

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and hence we are seeing the damage. This is what happens. Correct,

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you were correct, You're cooked. A lot of these people

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now have been dismissed, They've been relieved of their duties.

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Some have apologized, right, they've been condemned by various Republicans, which,

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by the way, the best response to this I saw

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was out of Virginia. The Virginia Democrat Party put out

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a statement calling on the gubernatorial nominee for the Republicans win.

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Some seers sears must call on all young Republicans implicated

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in racist text scandal to step down from their positions,

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and she responds, easy, they absolutely must step down. Now

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it's your turn, Abigail, Right, because Abigail Spanberger has not

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called for j Jones to step down. Like the Virginia

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Democrats are just awful at this They're just terrible at

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this game. See, and this is proof that they don't

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really hold this standard for themselves. They just want the

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standard to be applied to their political opponents. And that's

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what I'm seeing from a lot of people on the right,

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including I'm sad to say, Matt Walsh. They seem to

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want this standard now to be obliterated for themselves, he said,

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lining up to publicly denounce people on the right at

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the behest of leftists to hate you and what you

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dead is pathetic behavior. Yeah, I'm not denouncing any of

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their behavior in these texts. I'm not denouncing these people

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because the Left is asking me or demanding me, or

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requesting it of me. I don't need them to do that.

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Why would I need them. I don't listen to anything

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the Left tells me to do anyway, Why would I

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listen to them on this? I have my own agency.

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I can make this decision for myself. It's not a

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matter of what the left wants me to say, it's

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what I want to say. Se because if I say this,

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that means I have a consistent standard. And if you've

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listened to me for any period of time, you know

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that I constantly argue and advocate for a consistent application

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of standards. So when somebody on the left says, hey,

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I would like to murder my political opponent's kid, or

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somebody should do that in order to affect his policy positions,

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and I denounce that, I say that's unacceptable. You're creating

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a permission structure for this kind of behavior and this

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kind of talk. You shouldn't be saying this stuff. You

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should be shunned. This is not decent. You should be shamed.

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When somebody on the right says something similar, I can

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also say, yeah, a consistent application of my standard is

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that this is not decent. You should be shamed. That's

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not acceptable. Matt Walsh says the right doesn't stick together.

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That's our biggest problem. By far, I don't know. I

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kind of think the infiltration of antisemites into the right

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wing influence fear. I think that's a problem. I don't

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think it's that we don't stick together. He says conservatives

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are quick to denounce each other, jump on dog piles,

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disavow attack their allies. I said a few weeks ago

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that we all need to band together in the wake

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of Charlie Kirk's death, and the answer I got back

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from a lot of people on the right was basically no.

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I was not aware of this call. I did not

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see the rejections to band together on anything. I'm not

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sure what he's talking about there, but okay, guys, then

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we'll just lose instead. This is again another false choice.

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You're giving me, a false dichotomy. I have to now

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endorse Groyper's I have to now allow Nick Fouentes to

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be some sort of a freaking spokesperson for conservatism when

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the guy's a raging anti semi twink like, I don't know,

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I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to

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allow that guy to speak for me. But if I don't,

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then that means I want to lose. That's absurd, that's stupid. Okay,

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that is a false choice being foisted upon me. That

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is a tactic of the left, hence the term woke.

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And by the way, this is what has hollowed out

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the Democrat Party. This inability to police your own, to

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weed out the worst of actors out of your party.

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That is why the left is in trouble right now.

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That's why the Democrat Party is in so much trouble

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right now. And they are, by the way, for people

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are like, we just keep losing. Republicans have the White House,

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they have the House of Representatives, they have the Senate,

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They've got more than half of all the legislative seats

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across America. They're doing pretty good. Republicans have been doing

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pretty well, okay, And the further the left goes off

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the rails, the more the Republicans benefit. Why on earth

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would you want this to be associated with you? Why

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it doesn't make any sense. If the only principle is

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to win and that's it, then what's the point of winning?

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What do you get right? If you've abandoned all your

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principles just for the power, then you're just in it

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for the power. And that's not why I do this.

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That's not what I'm about. So that's you know, this

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is where I get off. You know, here's a great idea.

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give you some of the reactions that are out there

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regarding all of this. For example, Joel Berry, he is

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the managing editor of The Babylon b He said something

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I have noticed about this no enemies to the right phenomenon,

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which I haven't said this yet this hour. So there

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is this way of thinking that there are no enemies

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to the right, Okay, and this is why, like you

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can't criticize or you shouldn't criticize anybody to your right

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because they're part of this coalition, you know, this movement.

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No enemies to the right. I'm just going to keep

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criticizing and targeting the left. No enemies to the right,

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And that's just a stupid philosophy, it is. It's just stupid.

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Of course, you can criticize people to your right, to

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your left, on the right, on the left, if people

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are behaving badly, you can criticize them, Absolutely you can.

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But this idea that oh I can't. I can't criticize

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Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes, Candice Owens, Tucker Carlson. I can't

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criticize any of them because they're to the right. Well,

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if you do that, Pete, you're going to destroy the

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coalition and the whole movement and all of this. Yeah, no,

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I but don't. I don't want to be associated with them.

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I find some of the stuff that they say to

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be abhorrent and if and a lot of it sounds

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like it would be coming out of the mouths of

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jeeh hottists and leftists. So no, I'm not going to

472
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So when a left, when a registered Democrat says this stuff,

473
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I criticize it. But because they're registered Republican, I'm not

474
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supposed to pound sand Man. Seriously, pound sand That's what

475
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having no principles is if you think that your principle

476
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is no enemies to the right, that means you have

477
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no principle except that because nothing matters as long as

478
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somebody identifies as on the right, now you don't criticize them.

479
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That's dumb anyway, Joel Berry says, the rules seem to

480
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be that you're not allowed to attack anybody further right

481
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than you, but people further right than you are allowed

482
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to attack anybody on the right they want, Which makes sense,

483
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right if you think about it. Let's say I am

484
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at this position and you are to the right of me.

485
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That means I can't criticize you, But you being to

486
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:47,279
the right of me means I am to the left

487
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of you, which means you get to criticize me. See

488
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what I mean. It's a stupid principle, He says. They

489
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can call decent defective conservatives all sorts of names and

490
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,920
lists a bunch, but they could accuse you of plotting

491
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,559
to murder Charlie Kirk. But if you so much as

492
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question their poor behavior, you are met with impassioned please

493
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for unity. See the unity goes both ways, though it should.

494
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:17,720
That seems to be less of an appeal to unity

495
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and more of a play to hand over the reins

496
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,640
of our entire movement to the most extreme and depraved

497
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,079
actors who claim to be on our side, quote unquote,

498
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,200
which seems unwise. This is why I called it a

499
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psiop There are people with sociopathic and psychopathic personality types

500
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that embed themselves in any kind of an organization at

501
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,559
any level, and they will seek to gain control of

502
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:48,440
it for their own personal use. And there are people

503
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in the conservative movement on the right wing, these influencers

504
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,480
and stuff. There are people of that personality type I

505
00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:02,640
can only assume that are seeking to to cannibalize what

506
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:08,279
Charlie Kirk built. They want his audience, they want his influence.

507
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,079
They are trying to hijack the movement that Charlie Kirk

508
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,680
was building, to the point where some of them are

509
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,680
accusing Charlie Kirk's own friends of somehow or another being

510
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:27,240
a part of an assassination on him, which is nuts.

511
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:34,079
It's just nuts. Tim Poole YouTuber, he did a breakdown

512
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of all of the conspiracy theories the other day, all

513
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,519
these conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk's murder, and he said

514
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:44,680
something that I have said for a very long time,

515
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which is when you hear hoofs, think horses, not zebras right,

516
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,319
and the idea that all of these people around Charlie

517
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,759
Kirk that were helping him, that were being helped by him,

518
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,920
that built this movement, that loved him, that were friends

519
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,440
with him, that they somehow or another were involved in

520
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,640
his murder. And you got all these people that are

521
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,759
quote on the right that are spinning out all of

522
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:17,039
these these fantasies. I'm just asking questions, what do you

523
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:23,519
think it means? Israel did it? That is toxic. That

524
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:27,200
is the wedge they are using to drive into the

525
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:32,000
MAGA coalition, that is the SSIA. Recognize that for what

526
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:40,400
it is. A writer ag Hamilton, he says, it's basically

527
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,720
a rule that the right can't have standards, and those

528
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:47,799
who object and insist on standards are the problem. Growing

529
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:50,720
the tent is about finding people who have shared values

530
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:55,839
but some policy differences. It's not about inviting people in

531
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,160
who have completely different values and will alienate half the

532
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,279
people in the tent. Right. The reason the tent exists

533
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:10,400
is because it unifies people around certain principles. And if

534
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,119
you are advocating the abandonment of those principles, then you

535
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:16,960
shouldn't be in the tent. This is my argument with

536
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:20,199
like the woke leftists that infiltrate the churches first, like

537
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,480
you saw the Presbyterian Church. They just took down the

538
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,719
Methodist Church. Right, They get inside these churches and they

539
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,519
rip them apart from the inside. Rather than just going

540
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:31,239
off and starting your own church, just start your own church.

541
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:34,360
No no, no, we want to go in and take

542
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,320
over yours. We want to gut it. We want to

543
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,760
wear its skin as a suit, and we want everybody

544
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,559
to pay homage and tribute and respect to us as

545
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:48,440
we parade around in the skin suit of this formally

546
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:56,079
respected institution. Callin Wright with the Manhattan Institute noted that

547
00:34:56,119 --> 00:35:00,719
the left got taken over by wokeness due to the

548
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,079
very same idea that there are no enemies to the

549
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:07,360
left sentiment. Everybody on the left had to be protected.

550
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,039
They could never say no, no, no, no, that's too far.

551
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,159
No no, no, they're too radical. What have I been

552
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:14,360
saying all this time? Democrats, you got a problem inside

553
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,320
your party. You need to root this crap out, and

554
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,639
they're not doing it. What do you think that's doing

555
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:28,559
to them. Obviously, it's not helping them. Moderate liberals weren't

556
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:31,320
even allowed to criticize the woke, but the woke were

557
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,679
allowed to call everybody else on the left racists and

558
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,880
transphobes for expressing even minor disagreements with them. Think jk Rowling,

559
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:45,480
who came out against the transgender stuff. She's of the left.

560
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,400
But because she said no, there were only women and

561
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,519
men and women's spaces should be protected, what happened to her? Right?

562
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,679
Pilloried by the more radical leftists because there are no

563
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,519
enemies to the left and she was to the right

564
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:01,239
of them on one issue. Do you think that that

565
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,159
has helped liberals? Do you think that's helped democrats? It

566
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,480
has not. We're seeing the same kind of cancer now

567
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:12,199
in the right, and I know a lot of people

568
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,079
on the right one to think that it couldn't possibly

569
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,320
happen to us because we have principles. They will use

570
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,760
those principles against you. That's how they operate. It is

571
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:29,280
a personality defect. Do not let it consume you. All right,

572
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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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for listening. I could not do the show without your

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00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,519
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