WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.879 In this episode of Pop Culture Weekly, it is action packed. 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.599 I speak with Robert Patrick, Beneccio del Toro in the 3 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:08.439 cast of The Phoenicians Scheme, and Danny and Michael Philip 4 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:10.720 Howe all about the brand new A twenty four horror 5 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:11.560 film Bringer Back. 6 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:12.080 Let's go. 7 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:17.079 Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon from my 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:22.320 Heart Radio, your pop culture news, views, reviews and celebrity 9 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.800 interviews on all the movies, TV, music, and pop culture 10 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:29.559 U CRABE Weekly. Here's Kyle McMahon. 11 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:35.159 Nick No no no, Nick. Hello, Welcome to pop Culture 12 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:38.359 Weekly with Kyle McMahon. I of course am Kyle McMahon. 13 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.560 I thank you once again for joining me on pop 14 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:45.359 Culture Weekly, your backstage pass to the biggest names and 15 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:51.159 buzziest things in entertainment and pop culture. I of course 16 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:56.719 I'm Kyle, and I'm so stoked about this stacked episode 17 00:00:56.719 --> 00:01:00.119 for you today. First up, we're going to be honoring 18 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:02.439 the spirit of Memorial Day, as we did with the 19 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:06.159 last episode where I was live from you know, the 20 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:08.920 West lawn of the US Capitol in Washington, d C. 21 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:13.799 For our annual National Memorial Day Concert episode where I 22 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:17.760 interviewed a bunch of the talent, and you know, it 23 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:21.239 was all about that amazing show, which is on demand 24 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:23.640 and on Facebook and YouTube for the next two weeks, 25 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.120 so make sure you check it out. So I have 26 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:30.680 an interview from there with Robert Patrick from Terminator and 27 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:37.079 The X Files and nineteen twenty three and Peacemaker and 28 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:40.879 Reacher and just an awesome guy. So I talked with 29 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:46.280 him once again about National Memorial Day concert. Then we're 30 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:51.040 stepping into the eerie and electrifying universe of Danny and 31 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:55.640 Michael Philip Hoal and their horror world as I talked 32 00:01:55.640 --> 00:02:00.560 to them about their brand new, amazing and spinting film 33 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.920 Bring Her Back. It is so good. It is all 34 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:05.480 of the things that I loved about. Talk to me 35 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:09.400 times ten for Bring Her Back. And then we're diving 36 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:14.400 headfirst into the mysterious and thrilling world of Wes Anderson's 37 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:20.280 The Phoenician Scheme with its powerhouse cast including Academy Award 38 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:24.879 winner Benicccio del Toro, be always compelling Michael Sarah and 39 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.240 rising star Mia three polten. So trust me, this is 40 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:31.879 one you don't want to miss. This is an awesome 41 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:35.680 episode and I'm really hyped about it, all right, so 42 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:40.479 let's jump right in. My first guest is an amazing 43 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:46.120 actor whose career spanned over three decades and include some 44 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:50.560 of the most iconic roles in film and TV, from 45 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:55.080 terrifying audiences as the relentless T one thousand and Terminator 46 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:59.960 to Judgment Day to delivering powerful performances like Agent Douga 47 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:04.039 on The X Files and Sons of Anarchy and Peacemaker 48 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:06.360 and so many more. He is a true force of 49 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:10.599 nature on screen. But today he's not just going to 50 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.039 be discussing those things, and you know, I got to 51 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:16.000 ask him about the X Files, but something far more 52 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:21.120 personal and powerful, the National Memorial Day Concert. So please 53 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:27.560 welcome the one and only Robert Patrick. Okay, I am 54 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.520 here once again with the amazing Robert Patrick on the 55 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:33.360 West Lawn of the US Capitol. You're here for National 56 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.439 Memorial Day Concert once again. Why is this so important 57 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.280 for you to continue to do this show? 58 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:42.800 Well, the show is fantastic because it's how we honor 59 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:46.800 our fallen men and women that have given the ultimate 60 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:49.960 devotion to this nation. I'm very, very proud to be here. 61 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:54.159 I come from a military family. My grandfather was a 62 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:56.960 lieutenant colonel of the United States Army fought War One, 63 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:59.879 World War II, and Korea, and I honor his ser 64 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:03.560 us by being here. But I love coming to DC, 65 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:06.800 And even if I'm not doing the show, I'm here 66 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:10.039 every year. I ride my Harley out here and I 67 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:12.479 come out with the Vietnam Vets and we demonstrate. We 68 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:16.680 ride through the streets doing rolling Thunder. I'm also involved 69 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:21.000 with TAPS. I go out there. I'll be going out 70 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:24.560 there shortly after this interview. But to become involved with 71 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:29.959 these different organizations, it really helps me make sure that 72 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:32.680 I show my appreciation for the men and women of 73 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.439 our armed forces that have given their lives uses and 74 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:42.000 you know freedom, freedom is not free, and somebody sacrificed 75 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:46.360 their life for you to enjoy all this. So it's 76 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:47.920 a fantastic way to honor them. 77 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:52.439 Yes, And you know, you've been in so many amazing projects. 78 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:54.040 Some of them some of them not so good. 79 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:56.519 Well, you're very kind. 80 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:58.079 There's a couple. 81 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:03.800 Then you are here, you're doing You're telling somebody's real story. 82 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:04.160 You know. 83 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.959 Uh, this is probably one of the hardest acting jobs 84 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:15.639 to do because you're gonna tell one of these heroes, 85 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:21.680 one of these men that has actually been in combat 86 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:26.240 and seeing his brothers fall and witness the horror of war, 87 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:30.759 and tell it from his perspective, in his words, his 88 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:35.079 point of view, and try to find a tone that 89 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:40.160 he will he he will approve of. And he's going 90 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:42.680 to be sitting right there, so the pressure is on. 91 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:45.560 I was gonna ask you if you can't, I can't 92 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:48.639 play Don Graves, but I hope I tell his story 93 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:49.199 very well. 94 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:51.199 Well rehearsal you certainly did well. 95 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:53.600 I had. It was a good rehearsal. Today. Let's hope 96 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:57.079 we didn't blow that for the for the performance, because 97 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:58.720 you only get so many of those everyones. 98 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.639 Finally, I'm a huge X Files fan. I've asked you 99 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:06.240 about it before. Sure, Ryan Coogler is kind of rebooting 100 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:07.120 it with Fox. 101 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:10.240 Yeah, I'm so old. They don't want me. I'm sixty 102 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:12.000 six years old. They don't want me out there being 103 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.079 the X Files. I guess some young, sexy, thirty year 104 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.560 old guy, forty year old guy I'd be out there 105 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.399 doing that. There's nothing for me to do in the 106 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:24.240 X Files except maybe play the aged John Doggett. But 107 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:26.560 I have a Since you brought up John Doggett, I'm 108 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:28.240 going to talk to you. About John Doggett. You know, 109 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:32.920 John dogget was marine Don Grays's marine. John Doggett was 110 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:38.639 an FBI agent. I told everyone at the end of 111 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:40.720 the X Files. People said, what do you think happened 112 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:42.720 to John Doggett? And I said, well, John Doggett ran 113 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:47.279 off and joined the Motorcycle Club and he's living as 114 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.879 a hermit somewhere in the Southwest. So that's where John 115 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:51.480 Doggett is. 116 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:52.680 Thank you, Sarah. 117 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:54.279 It's always a pleasure, my pleasure. 118 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:55.000 I appreciate it. 119 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.519 God, bless you, buddy. There's the handshake here. 120 00:06:57.959 --> 00:06:59.879 Thank you, Thank you, God, bless you, Thank you God. 121 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:08.240 All right, buddy, Okay. Robert Patrick such an awesome guy. 122 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:14.160 He's funny, he's so talented, and his dedication to you know, 123 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:19.519 our nation's heroes is really just so touching and inspiring. 124 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:24.079 So you can still catch the National Memorial Day Concert 125 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:29.920 on demand on PBS's website, on Facebook, and on YouTube. 126 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:33.319 We'll have the links in the show notes and check 127 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:37.319 it out. It is really really powerful stuff. Capitol Concerts 128 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:40.800 always does such a great job, and this year was 129 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:45.839 no exception. So all right, next up, Danny and Michael 130 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:50.519 Philippal exploded onto the scene with their breakout horror hit 131 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:52.480 Talk to Me, which you know I raved about when 132 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.519 it came out, and they proved that not only can 133 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:59.240 YouTubers make the leap to filmmaking, but they can freaking 134 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:03.319 crush it. So now they're back with their highly anticipated 135 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:07.480 follow up film, Bring Her Back, a twisted, emotional and 136 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:12.199 terrifying ride that is sending shock waves through the horror community. 137 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:14.920 I mean there's this one part no spoilers that I 138 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:20.279 honestly thought about not leaving totally the you know, the movie, 139 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:24.160 but getting up and standing outside for a moment because 140 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:29.920 it was crazy. But anyway, Danny and Michael are they're 141 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.200 also you know, they're Australian brothers, and they always bring 142 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:36.879 a unique electric energy to everything they do. Their YouTube 143 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:40.200 is amazing, now their films are amazing, and their bold 144 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:44.679 vision is really helping to reshape modern horror. So please 145 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:49.240 welcome to Pop Culture Weekly the wildly talented and brilliantly 146 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:57.240 unhinged duo Danny and Michael Philippa. Thank you so much 147 00:08:57.720 --> 00:08:59.919 both of you for joining me. I really appreciate it. 148 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:02.320 Oh my gosh, yeah, I think of having us. Thank you. 149 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.799 Of course, First of all, I love talk to me 150 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:10.360 and I love this film. Who Hurt you guys. 151 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:16.840 A multiple people. Yeah, it's like any time. 152 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:18.840 That you're writing any sort of horror film, you're drawing 153 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:21.360 from everything that makes you uncomfortable. You look back on 154 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:24.840 every single experience, you look back on anything that like 155 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:26.960 sticks with you in like a sort of bad way, 156 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:28.840 and then like the film is our way to exercise 157 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:29.600 that sort of stuff. 158 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:31.159 You know. 159 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:36.200 It's it's amazing to me because it's just both films are. 160 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:39.320 It's I feel like it's I'm a huge genre fan, 161 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:41.879 huge horror fan, as both of you are. I feel 162 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:44.799 like it's it's helping to elevate the genre, you know. 163 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:46.600 It's I mean, there's a place and a time for 164 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.799 like silly, mindless slashers or whatever, and I love those two. 165 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:54.120 But I feel like the work that you guys are 166 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:57.559 doing are helping to lift it to be taken more 167 00:09:57.600 --> 00:09:58.960 seriously as films. You know. 168 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.600 Yeah, we always try to super make sure that like 169 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:05.559 the films can exist as a drama film, Like if 170 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:07.840 you took all the horror elements out, you could still 171 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:10.960 tell this story as like a real life story, and 172 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:13.360 well that just helps the horror when you can if 173 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.840 you can connect with the characters and they feel real 174 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:19.440 when these things happen. It gives them more impact. So, yeah, 175 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:21.720 we love the mindless slash of stuff. 176 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:22.679 I do as well. 177 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:26.159 Yeah, but for our stuff, it's like we like trying 178 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.440 to create stuff that's like with three dimensional characters and purpose. 179 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:36.039 Yeah, and it's working. So, you know, Talk to Me 180 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:39.480 comes out and it's your first big feature film and 181 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:44.039 kind of explodes why did you choose for Bring Her Back? 182 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:45.480 Why did you choose this story? 183 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:48.360 There was a bit of a pressure to go bigger 184 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:52.320 and to go bolder, and it felt this felt like 185 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:53.679 the right story to tell. 186 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:55.519 And there were so many offers that came in. 187 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:58.279 There were so many big, exciting projects, but this felt 188 00:10:58.279 --> 00:10:59.679 like the most personal. 189 00:10:59.240 --> 00:10:59.879 Story to tell. 190 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:01.960 And it was a script that got written while we 191 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:04.240 wrote Talk to Me. So it was something that we 192 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:05.759 just wouldn't be able to get out of our heads 193 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:08.360 unless we actually made it. Anytime I would have been 194 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:09.559 on anything, I would have just been. 195 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:10.200 Thinking about this. 196 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:14.120 And I felt like a really personal expression, and I 197 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:15.480 think that always makes the best art. 198 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:19.080 When you're being as personal as possible. It is kind 199 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.440 of in a way, it's bigger that it's bigger in 200 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:24.320 a different way. Yeah, it's definitely more violent. 201 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:30.000 Yes, I for me, you know, as I watched it 202 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:33.159 last night and there was a scene that I was like, 203 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.440 I wish that I didn't have ears and eyes at 204 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.200 that moment, if you know what I'm talking about. And 205 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:44.679 but for me, it really boils down to grief and 206 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:48.559 you know, what, what will we do? What could we 207 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:52.559 do for our loved ones? Do you how is that? 208 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:54.600 Does that resonate with the both of you? 209 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:55.879 Yeah? 210 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.639 Like it was tapping into those fears, Like the idea 211 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:02.039 of a never ending grief is so terrifying, the idea 212 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.840 of never being okay ever again, the idea of not 213 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:08.000 being able to let someone go. Manifesting that in your 214 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:10.600 mind and picturing what that looks like and what does that. 215 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:12.360 Once look like? What does grief look like? 216 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.919 It's all consuming, it's all encompassing, and it's like twisting 217 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.679 someone so beautiful into someone you know, horrific. 218 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:21.639 So yeah, that was a very very big inspiration point 219 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:22.039 for sure. 220 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.639 And do you feel, you know, as you're doing a 221 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.399 film like Bring Her Back, do you feel that you know, 222 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:35.039 putting these emotions in like in other words, is that 223 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:39.519 something that's extremely conscious from the beginning as you're conceptualizing 224 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.679 the project, like this is a story on as you said, 225 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.679 you know, not being able or whatever to let somebody go. 226 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:54.120 Is that a concept that then conceptualizes into a bigger 227 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.360 story or how does that process work for you? 228 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:56.679 Guys? 229 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.840 It's so interesting, like you you find that theme as 230 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:02.840 you're writing, and it's always moments and scenes and characters, 231 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:05.000 and it's sort of like you're putting these things together 232 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.639 and the story finds itself as you write. But yeah, 233 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:11.000 the biggest inspiration point for this movie was a friend's 234 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:14.000 little sister who's non sighted and. 235 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:16.120 Her wanting to catch the boss. 236 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:19.000 Yeah, and she, like her family was a bit scared 237 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:21.399 to let her do that, because you know, it can 238 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:23.879 be really dangerous. But in her mind, she's like, I 239 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:25.720 need to learn how to be independent, I need to 240 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:28.039 learn how to navigate the world. And I could see 241 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:29.879 both sides of the argument, and so that was a 242 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:32.600 really fascinating thing. And I started writing on that and 243 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.960 talking to her a little bit more and like asking 244 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:37.480 what she feels, like, what what do you think that 245 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.600 would be like to be able to see? And she said, 246 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:42.679 I'm glad I can't see because now I don't have 247 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:44.759 to see the ugly things in the world, And like 248 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:47.240 that statement was so poignant and that became like the 249 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:48.759 thematic base for the entire film. 250 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:52.200 Wow, okay, so that's so that's actually where the it 251 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:52.799 came from. 252 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:54.799 Yeah, that was that was definitely one of the first 253 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:55.440 scenes for sure. 254 00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:00.799 That's incredible when you're doing a film like this. Obviously, 255 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:07.639 as genre lovers yourself, do you find inspiration in other 256 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:11.600 films and if so, what were some of those projects 257 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:13.279 for for Bringer Back. 258 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:15.720 I mean, we looked at a bunch of psycho baby 259 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:19.080 films from the fifties and sixties, and so whatever happened 260 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.360 to Baby Jane was a big one. Wait until Dark 261 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:22.840 was a big one. Se you know, Evil was a 262 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:27.679 big one. Yeah, mouse Hunt was a big one. Uh, 263 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:29.320 Michael loves this movie called mouse Hunt. 264 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:34.039 Uh film mouse Hunt, the the with Nathan Lane or whatever. 265 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:37.919 Yeah, that's the one baby. 266 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.039 Ye a few scenes we guess which once. 267 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:50.159 When? And you guys essentially started out on YouTube as 268 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:54.919 you are, you know at that time creators obviously, you know, 269 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:58.240 as artists, we all envision bigger for ourselves. But do 270 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.120 you ever think, you know, in five years, ten years, 271 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.600 three years, two years, I'm going to be you know, 272 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:08.440 we're going to be creating projects for We're causing bidding 273 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:11.320 wars and being with eight twenty four And was that 274 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.240 ever on your radar? Then it's just. 275 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:17.480 The most impossible thing to imagine. And it just this 276 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:19.559 is always the dream. The dream was always to be 277 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:22.240 able to make movies that we wanted to make. We 278 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:25.399 have no kind of limitations, like whatever idea we wanted 279 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:26.000 to do to. 280 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:27.720 Create it, that was always the dream. 281 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.879 So yeah, it's so surreal that like we're able to 282 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:32.720 be in this position and we feel so lucky and 283 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:35.399 so honored that we get to do it, and yeah, 284 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.320 it's it's scary, so like please don't go away, because 285 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.039 it's just like, yeah, it's that that's a terrifying thing 286 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.320 as well. And yeah, and I could feel the pressure 287 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.399 mounting off to talk to me where I was like 288 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:49.240 getting scared to make another movie, Like I was like. 289 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:50.879 Am I supposed to top this? Am I? 290 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:53.480 There's a certain expectation now, And like I could feel 291 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:55.879 myself getting paralyzed by that, and the only way to 292 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:57.720 sort of overcome that was just the sign onto the 293 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:00.240 next one and be like quickly like the doors open, go, 294 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:02.440 let's go, and don't think about it, just just jump in. 295 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:05.200 I'm so glad you did. And I know everybody that 296 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:08.320 sees it is going to feel the same when when 297 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:11.320 you're doing, you know, a film like Bring Her Back. 298 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:17.799 Do you ever, and I kind of mean this more literally, 299 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.399 do you ever put parts of yourself into these characters? 300 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:24.120 I mean you're you're both, you know, writing and directing. 301 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.840 It's gotta I feel like kind of be hard not to. 302 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:28.879 Is that accurate? 303 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.519 Yeah? Yeah, I do not write with Michael. Michael did 304 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:34.960 not write this. I did. He did not. 305 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.320 We have a co writer named Bill Hinsman who's so 306 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:41.159 incredible to collaborate with. And yeah, it's interesting, like you 307 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.159 draw from everywhere, you draw from yourself, You draw from 308 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:47.120 people that you know, experiences that you've had, and just 309 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.360 listening to stories of people and talking to certain people 310 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:52.320 as well, like talking to a bunch of different mothers 311 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:54.919 and talking about like how far would you go for 312 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:58.080 your kid? And even our producer Samantha Jennings is such 313 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:01.440 an incredible creative producer as well. Conversations with her, deep 314 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:03.840 conversations with her. It's such an intimate thing when you're 315 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:05.880 writing a script, and I think the way to make 316 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:07.839 it the most unique is to make it the most personal. 317 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:10.200 And yeah, so I think there's bits of everything in that. 318 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:13.880 I love that. Thank you boys both so much. I 319 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:16.400 can't wait for everybody to see this. And I'm already 320 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:18.160 excited for your next projects. And thank you. 321 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:25.240 Awesome, thanks, thank you Danny and Michael philipp. 322 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:30.039 Love those guys, love their work, love talk to me, 323 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:32.960 love bring Her Back, and I can't wait to see 324 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.519 what they do next. I can't wait for you to 325 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:38.319 see Bring Her Back so we can talk about it. 326 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:42.799 It is so good. I really really loved it, and 327 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:44.880 I think you will too. So once you see it, 328 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:47.640 hit me up on social or email, or leave a 329 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:53.400 voicemail on the website or at podcast dot pop culturewekly 330 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.000 dot com, or if you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, 331 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.079 you can use the talkback button and I might just 332 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:01.519 feature you on the next episode. So all right, we're 333 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:04.519 gonna take a quick break. When we come back, we 334 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:10.000 are speaking with the cast of Wes Anderson's The Phoenician Scheme, 335 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:15.359 including Nicccio del Toro, Michael Sarah, and Mia Threppleton. See 336 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:24.200 you in sixty All right, welcome back. Thanks for supporting 337 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:27.720 our sponsors. Whill help make this show possible every week 338 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:30.079 and help me bring it to you so we can 339 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:32.799 continue to do this and I can continue to interview 340 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:36.599 you know, these amazing talents and talk about movies and 341 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:41.640 music and streaming and TV. So all right, our next 342 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:46.160 guests are starring in the latest cinematic adventure from the 343 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:51.480 endlessly inventive Wes Anderson. I love Wes Anderson. The Phoenician Scheme. 344 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:56.359 That's his newest film. It is a visually stunning, emotionally rich, and, 345 00:18:56.759 --> 00:19:00.839 as always with Wes, a delightfully offbeat tale that only 346 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.319 he could bring to life. So he is an Oscar 347 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:10.079 winning actor known for his magnetic intensity and unforgettable roles 348 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:14.240 in everything from Traffic to The French Dispatch. The legendary 349 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:19.079 Benicio del Toro, and joining him is a comedic genius 350 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:24.640 who's charmed Us in Super Bad, Arrested Development and Scott Pilgrim, 351 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:29.039 and is now diving headfirst into Anderson's whimsical world. The 352 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:33.359 brilliantly understated Michael Sarah and rounding out the trio. She 353 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.880 is a rising star and actually she is the daughter 354 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:42.640 of Kate Winslet, and she's making serious waves on her 355 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:48.880 own with powerful performances the incredibly talented Mia Threppleton. So 356 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:52.599 let's jump right in and get a peak behind the 357 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.960 pastel curtains of the Phoenician scheme. Here they are Benicio 358 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:04.000 del Toro, Michael Sarah, and Mia Thripleton. Thank you all 359 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:05.759 for joining me. I really appreciate it. 360 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:07.240 Thank you. 361 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.519 So. First of all, the film's incredible. And I got 362 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.839 to ask, Benicio, you've worked with Wes Anderson before. Uh, 363 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:20.359 he builds these like worlds that are so unique and incredible. 364 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:25.240 Is that part of the attraction of doing another West film? 365 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:28.839 Yeah? Absolutely, I think. I think he also creates these 366 00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:32.119 characters that are very that are full of contradictions, that 367 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:38.240 are like that are you know, very human, and you know, 368 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:42.240 uh so it's a challenge for for any actor to 369 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:51.200 try to, you know, be that character and bring it 370 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:52.000 to life. 371 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:53.279 Uh. 372 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:56.039 And it's it's it's a lot of fun, you know, 373 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:00.400 that that contradiction, the arc. Also, the all three of us, 374 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:06.319 you know, had characters that evolved, you know, and you 375 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:10.240 know that's to have three in the same movie. It's 376 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:13.319 that's that's like, you know, they don't make them like that, 377 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:17.079 movies that have character. You know, all these actors, all 378 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:21.680 these characters are evolving. It's kind of it's really really 379 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:25.160 really exciting and a compliment to us his writing. 380 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:32.720 I love that. And Michael, you've had a interesting You 381 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:36.519 have an accent that obviously you don't normally have, did 382 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:38.559 you like at the practice that like tell me a 383 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:39.440 little bit about that. 384 00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:42.039 Yeah, it took a little work, and it was kind 385 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:46.759 of a matter of Wes and I delicately kind of 386 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:50.039 finding where, you know, how far you can take that 387 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:54.000 without ruining the movie basically or just you know, tipping 388 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:58.559 it into like being ridiculous or just you know, being 389 00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:01.799 too loud of an element in the movie. So it's 390 00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:03.400 kind of a fine line. But I mean the character 391 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:05.680 was written as Norwegians, so it was sort of and 392 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:08.839 you know, not to spoil anything, but like then there's 393 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:14.359 a twist later that where the character I'm kind of 394 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:17.200 spoiling it, but anyway, it kind of turns, and that 395 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:19.359 turn was kind of you know, kind of depends on 396 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:22.480 the accent in a way too, because so that you 397 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.000 can kind of create a like a before and after. 398 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:28.160 So yeah, it was like a matter of working with 399 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:31.279 Wes and both of us like taking a deep breath 400 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:32.759 and just going for it. At a certain. 401 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:35.880