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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. Were beautiful day

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<v Speaker 1>to fight for the American way. Tomorrow will be in

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<v Speaker 1>its own way as well, though do be careful on

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<v Speaker 1>the roads. I don't know that a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this snow is going to stick, but it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be sloppy and slushy and all that. Maybe on the

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<v Speaker 1>grass some of it sticks. But hey, really interesting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I get to this very very important bill that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been pushing for for years, and I love that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a bipartisan bill that was just introduced, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to let you know about this potentially really

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<v Speaker 1>important development in the US Supreme Court, and we won't

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<v Speaker 1>know until we get there. We're going to get there

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<v Speaker 1>for the hearing on May fifteen, and we'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to read something into the oral argument before scotus.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the headline.

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court poised to make major decision that could set

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<v Speaker 1>limits on the power.

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<v Speaker 2>Of district judges.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes after three federal judges issued separate nationwide injunctions

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<v Speaker 1>blocking an executive order by President Donald Trump ending birthright

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<v Speaker 1>citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's why.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so interesting, and I think means it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a really important holding ruling. The Supremes are

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<v Speaker 1>working ot on this one. Normally they're not doing oral

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<v Speaker 1>argument this late right because they wrap up their session

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of June, so normally they're not bringing

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<v Speaker 1>people in for arguments as late as May fifteen. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the reason they're doing it here is because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we've seen a whole lot of nationwide injunctions being

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<v Speaker 1>issued by individual federal judges, and so I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court is probably going to go beyond this particular issue,

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<v Speaker 1>as important as it is, and address more broadly this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of district court judges issuing national injunctions. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think for a second the Supreme Court is going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that can never happen. But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court is going to lay down the criteria, put

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<v Speaker 1>down a template, and try to rein it in that

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think we're going to see come out

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<v Speaker 1>of this or they wouldn't be doing it this late

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<v Speaker 1>and this way. So I think that'd be a very

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<v Speaker 1>healthy thing for America. So I'm glad that the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court is taking it on. So let me get now

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<v Speaker 1>to this very very important bill. I've been calling for

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<v Speaker 1>this for years because, as you know, my real job is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been a trial lawyer now for forty

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<v Speaker 1>plus years and representing victims in wrongful death cases and

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophic injury cases. And so you see all this carnage

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<v Speaker 1>on the roadway, and part of my job is I

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<v Speaker 1>look at the pictures, I meet, the families i'm around,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just the most heartbreaking things all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>including today. And so you sit here and say, this

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. There it's a killing field on our roadways,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't have to be this way. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>always going to have some bad things happen because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a human condition. But there's so much more reckless driving

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<v Speaker 1>on our roads than there needs to be. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>much more death, there are so many more crashes than

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<v Speaker 1>there need to be on our roadways. So you would

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<v Speaker 1>think that a people like the great people of Colorado would,

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<v Speaker 1>as a matter of self survival, want to crack down

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<v Speaker 1>on this, and you know it. You're out on the roads,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see it's an epidemic. Now it's even gotten

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<v Speaker 1>worse since COVID and just that self survival instinct. You

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<v Speaker 1>would think that people would come together across party lines

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<v Speaker 1>to say not in our state, but that has not

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<v Speaker 1>been happening. And we have this big gaping hole in

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<v Speaker 1>our laws where you got people killing people flight out,

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<v Speaker 1>killing people on the roads through careless driving, and the

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<v Speaker 1>law does not empower the das and the judges.

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<v Speaker 2>To punish those people the way they should be punished.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this big gap between careless which is treated as

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<v Speaker 1>this high level misdemeanor careless for causing death, and between

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<v Speaker 1>the felony. Because the felony vehicular sell vehicular homicide, you

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<v Speaker 1>need this recklessness component. And without getting into legal weeds,

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<v Speaker 1>now you know there's a lot of act going on,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's harder for das to prove. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>so wrong and so unnecessarily dangerous. So this bill is

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<v Speaker 1>intended to address it. Here's that Channel four version of

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<v Speaker 1>the story. Keep in mind it's sponsored by both a

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<v Speaker 1>Republican senator in Colorado and a Democrat Senator in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill was introduced in the Colorado legislature this week that

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<v Speaker 3>would increase the penalties for careless driving causing serious bodily

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<v Speaker 3>injury or resulting in.

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<v Speaker 4>Death right now, that charge carries a maximum of a

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<v Speaker 4>year in jail. We've covered several high profile cases in

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<v Speaker 4>just the last two years where children were killed by

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<v Speaker 4>careless drivers while just walking or riding their bikes.

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<v Speaker 3>Already this year, twenty one pedestrians and cyclists have died

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<v Speaker 3>on Colorado roads, and those kinds of fatalities have increased

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<v Speaker 3>seventy eight percent in our state in the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 4>And that proposed change to Colorado state law could impact

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<v Speaker 4>many families. To report on a Rapo County Ashley Portillo

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<v Speaker 4>is live at euclid At Middle School where thirteen year

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<v Speaker 4>old Liam Stewart was riding his bike to middle school

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<v Speaker 4>in October twenty twenty three when a driver hit and

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<v Speaker 3>Ashley, you spoke with Liam's dad, who has been working

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<v Speaker 3>to get the laws changed and is advocating for safe

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<v Speaker 5>Right And I was able to speak with Liam's father

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<v Speaker 5>earlier today who told me that phone call from police

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<v Speaker 5>is a phone call that no parents, no family should

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<v Speaker 5>ever have to get now. What has made this situation

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<v Speaker 5>even more challenging and emotional is when they learn that

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<v Speaker 5>the person, the driver responsible for killing their own son

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<v Speaker 5>was only facing a traffic misdemeanor. As Liam's father, it's

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<v Speaker 5>something that Josh start sits on Liam's memorial bench.

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<v Speaker 2>It just kind of signifies that we had a Liam

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<v Speaker 5>He's reminded of a son he lost nearly a year

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<v Speaker 2>It starts to help you appreciate the short amount of

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<v Speaker 2>time we did have.

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<v Speaker 5>Since Liam's passing, Josh has been advocating for safer streets.

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<v Speaker 6>No parents should ever lose a child, especially when it's preventable.

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<v Speaker 7>He's also working to change state law.

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<v Speaker 5>Under current law, a person charged in careless driving resulting

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<v Speaker 5>in death faces a class one misdemeanor traffic offense with

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<v Speaker 5>up to one year in jail and or a one

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<v Speaker 5>thousand dollars fine.

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<v Speaker 7>Was at a surprise to you guys, as a family.

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<v Speaker 6>I sat up for probably a week reading criminal documents

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<v Speaker 6>trying to figure out how this could only be a

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<v Speaker 6>misdemeanor that somebody must have gotten this run.

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<v Speaker 5>If the bill passes, it would increase the penalty to

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<v Speaker 5>a classic felony and a much longer sentence. And Liam's case,

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<v Speaker 5>the driver pled guilty then was sentenced to two years

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<v Speaker 7>What the one thousand dollars fine? Do you feel like

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<v Speaker 7>justice has been served for Liam?

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<v Speaker 8>Don't?

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<v Speaker 6>No, Okay, justice has not been served for our family.

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<v Speaker 5>With the change in law, Josh's hope is that the

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<v Speaker 5>loss of a loved one in similar cases isn't just

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<v Speaker 5>seen as a low level traffic violation.

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<v Speaker 6>We're just trying to get justice for anybody that has

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<v Speaker 6>to go through this. I never want another family to

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<v Speaker 6>hear what we had to hear.

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<v Speaker 5>Josh added, Liam was a great big brother. No, I

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<v Speaker 5>think about him a lot and friend. We'd be turning

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen this year getting us permit. And while Liam's opportunity

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<v Speaker 5>to get behind the wheels taken away too soon, his family.

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<v Speaker 6>The world is not a better place without.

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<v Speaker 7>Of here helps to bring change in light of tragedy.

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<v Speaker 6>I think we're doing right by his legacy to make

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<v Speaker 6>some changes that I think he would appreciate.

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<v Speaker 5>I Meanwhile, opponents of the bill say increasing these penalties

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<v Speaker 5>and making them even harsher will not prevent crashes. From

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<v Speaker 5>happening in the future. By the way, this bill is

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<v Speaker 5>scheduled to be heard in committee, happening this coming Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 7>Refording live in Littleton. I'm not support the covering Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>First, Ron Ashley, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>If you live in a Reco county, actually is your reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to talk to an opponent of this bill.

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<v Speaker 1>But what good person could could make any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>credible argument against this bill. I would love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>that argument. All the idea that, Okay, if all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden we have these tougher laws that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to create real penalties if you kill an innocent person

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<v Speaker 1>on the roadway, that will make our roadways safer. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>why you have any loss right? And what about respect

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<v Speaker 1>for the victims? You heard that man who lost his son?

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<v Speaker 1>What about respect to the victims? I have sat there,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Ryan, it was what a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I was over in the jeff Co jail and I

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<v Speaker 1>was deposing a trucker who spilled pipe killed.

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<v Speaker 2>My client's husband. He'd been deported more than ten times.

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<v Speaker 1>She hadn't even been in the country, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>in jail deposing him, cross examining monder oaths for five

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<v Speaker 1>and then Ice ended up picking him up and getting

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<v Speaker 1>that deportation process going. But I'm sitting there cross examining

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, and and you know, you think of all

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<v Speaker 1>these other cases out there, and he was out right.

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<v Speaker 1>His max sentence was just short of a year because

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff go prosecuted it as this misdemeanor, and I've got

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<v Speaker 1>and I won't take the time.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have sat in Die's offices with my victim another

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<v Speaker 1>trucking case where her wonderful husband killed this this trucker

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<v Speaker 1>admitted when I cross examined him, took his eyes off

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<v Speaker 1>the road for nine seconds at highway speeds, killed this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful man. This this tremendous husband and father, mister maaanor charge.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've had this big gaping hole in Colorado law.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no good argument, no good argument against this bill.

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<v Speaker 1>But keep in mind as you listen to all this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sad to say this, it endangers you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're on the road or not, because you probably

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<v Speaker 1>have a loved one who is It endangers everybody who

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<v Speaker 1>can hear this. It endangers everybody in Colorado whoever ventures.

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<v Speaker 2>Onto a roadway.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a big gaping hole in the law that

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<v Speaker 1>puts you and your loved ones in more danger every day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gotta be fixed. You're on the Dan Caplas.

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<v Speaker 9>Show and now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 10>I have come to understand what Donald Trump, what pops

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<v Speaker 10>into his head and he says he's going to carry

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<v Speaker 10>it out. I once again, he talked about the tariffs,

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<v Speaker 10>he talked about you know, he's going to deport people,

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<v Speaker 10>and this whole thing with mister Braio Garcia. It's that

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<v Speaker 10>old wisdom and terrifying is if you're not speaking up

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<v Speaker 10>for this man, there will be no one.

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<v Speaker 2>Left to speak up for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether please keep talking, Tim, He is God's gift to Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, this mister he calls him Abrigo Garcia.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is here.

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<v Speaker 1>Illegally, and he is a resident of El Salvador. He's

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party wants to make him right now. They're hero

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<v Speaker 2>But they're flailing right there.

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<v Speaker 1>here in Colorado, well then that the better Republicans are

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<v Speaker 1>van Holland, by the way, had anybody ever heard of

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<v Speaker 1>him before all of this? But he now flying down

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<v Speaker 11>I'm here at the airport. I'm about to board my

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<v Speaker 11>to let the Trump administration to let the government of

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but did we hear anything from Chris Holland or

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<v Speaker 1>anything from Tim Walls about the vicious rapes and murders

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<v Speaker 1>of say, women all over the country, but certainly in

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<v Speaker 1>that did not escape the attention of Patty Morin suffering

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<v Speaker 1>through the unimaginable. That the worst thing any parent could

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<v Speaker 1>But not a peep from Tim Walls or Chris Holland

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<v Speaker 1>about that. But fortunately President Trump had this brave woman

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<v Speaker 12>A lot of you don't know the whole story about

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<v Speaker 12>Rachel and about the crime that was committed against her,

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<v Speaker 12>They kept most of it close to their chest, the

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<v Speaker 2>Hurt the case.

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<v Speaker 12>They wanted to keep the integrity of the case, so

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<v Speaker 12>they kept everything close. I sat for the last two

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<v Speaker 12>layer upon layer of evidence against the accused, an illegal

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<v Speaker 12>maybe this might have happened. We didn't know. But when

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and some of these details are going to be

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<v Speaker 12>Well, she went on that trail that day, but she

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<v Speaker 12>was not planning on dying. She wasn't planning on walking

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<v Speaker 12>He waited for her to come closer. He saw her,

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<v Speaker 12>he saw that there was nobody around. He attacked her.

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<v Speaker 12>He dragged her one hundred and fifty feet, blood gushing

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<v Speaker 12>trail of her blood. To the culverts where he took

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<v Speaker 12>He picked her up. He threw her against the wall

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<v Speaker 12>of the tunnel and he raped her. But before he

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<v Speaker 12>still stained with her blood. He used them to can

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<v Speaker 12>hammer her head against those rocks. They say twenty at

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<v Speaker 12>least twenty times. They could count the cuts in her head.

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<v Speaker 12>They said that when they did the autopsy, and I've

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<v Speaker 12>seen the pictures, there's a six inch square in the

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<v Speaker 12>way that you would crush an eggshell in pieces, three

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<v Speaker 12>forths of her brain, hemorrhaged, her right and left side

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<v Speaker 12>of her face, bashed in her beautiful face, bashed in

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<v Speaker 12>her body. There wasn't one inch of her body that

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<v Speaker 12>broken bones, contusions, the scratches. She had, a fractured rib,

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<v Speaker 12>fractured knows, fractured skull. And then he takes her into

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<v Speaker 12>the tunnel and he picks her up, he throws her

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<v Speaker 12>against the wall. The blood is gushing from her head,

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<v Speaker 12>her hair is soaked in blood. And they showed us

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<v Speaker 12>pictures of her body against the wall, outlined the blood,

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<v Speaker 1>And not one word from this SLB Senator Chris van Holland,

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<v Speaker 1>not one word of sympathy to her or her family.

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<v Speaker 1>But he flies down to that same Ol Salvador to

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<v Speaker 1>who's a citizen of L Salvador. Not one word of

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<v Speaker 1>condolence from Tim Walls right, who says, now, if we

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<v Speaker 1>don't stand up for this MS thirteen guy in L Salvador,

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<v Speaker 1>who will stand up for us? This is beyond insanity.

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<v Speaker 1>This is ed vocating evil over good. This Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>has completely lost its way, and the people can see it.

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<v Speaker 9>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 13>Sure Van Holland and the Democrats applauding his trip to

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<v Speaker 13>El Salvador today are incapable of having any shred of

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<v Speaker 13>common sense or empathy for their own constituents and our citizens.

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<v Speaker 13>Nobody knows this more than the woman standing to my right,

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<v Speaker 13>Patty Morin, whose beautiful daughter Rachel, was brutally maimed and

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<v Speaker 13>murdered at the hands of an illegal alien in August

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<v Speaker 13>of twenty twenty three. Patty no longer has her daughter

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<v Speaker 13>because of the failed Democrat Party's open border and these

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<v Speaker 13>are policies that President Trump is bringing an end to.

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<v Speaker 2>So well said, and just before the last break, we played.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound from that brave woman who laid out the details

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<v Speaker 1>of what had happened to her daughter, a story repeated

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<v Speaker 1>far too often once would be far too often, but

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<v Speaker 1>all over America by people here illegally. Now, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good people who come here illegally, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are also a lot of hardcore criminals who come

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<v Speaker 1>here illegally because the Democrats won them all.

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<v Speaker 2>They want them all as voters.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just absolutely obscene, it's immoral, and the American

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<v Speaker 1>people have thoroughly rejected it.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this here we end this is on CNN.

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<v Speaker 14>To port all undocumented immigrants. Voters favoring the government trying

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<v Speaker 14>to deport all eleven million of them. Back in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 14>just thirty eight percent of voters wanted the governments that

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<v Speaker 14>to try to deport all eleven million undocumented immigrants compared

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<v Speaker 14>to where we are in twenty twenty five, fifty six percent.

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<v Speaker 14>The majority the American people have come a long way

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<v Speaker 14>on this issue, much closer to Donald Trump. And I

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<v Speaker 14>think that's a big part of the reason why Americans

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<v Speaker 14>are increasingly the country is on the right track when

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<v Speaker 14>approval rating on that issue is in the positive.

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<v Speaker 1>And why do you think that big flip? I think

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons are obvious. It's clear America now is set

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<v Speaker 1>wrong side of history, the wrong side of morality, the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong side of the law, and they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the wrong side of an awful lot of elections,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully including the governor's race in Colorado. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>Erie Mike grazing us with his presence again on the

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<v Speaker 2>Erie, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm better than I deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>Good answer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what that reminds me of when I proposed

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<v Speaker 1>and then I get off air and I get a

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<v Speaker 1>the ring cost? And you know what, It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the few times in my life. I came up with

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect answer. Yeah, more than I afford and less

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<v Speaker 1>than she deserves. That was pretty good right on the

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<v Speaker 1>fly to the Denver Post, and they used the clote you.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I like it. I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey Dan, I don't like Well. The reason I called

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<v Speaker 8>is I think, you know, you were playing some pretty

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<v Speaker 8>to and and really horrible actually, but I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's sort of takes away some of your

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<v Speaker 8>argument about this this man that's been deported, because you know,

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<v Speaker 8>everything that she recounted that I heard anyway, you came

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<v Speaker 8>from what happened during due process of a trial, as

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<v Speaker 8>sound guilty and he's gonna he's gonna be at least

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<v Speaker 8>I assumed he was. But I think what people are

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<v Speaker 8>man don't maybe the gentleman or I don't know what

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<v Speaker 8>he was, but he was. He was erroneously deported. The

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Mike, a few things there question your premise, So

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<v Speaker 1>let's dive into that. But first of all, who's frustrated?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, right now, you got the Democratic Party right

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<v Speaker 1>that that's a very good thing for America because it's

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<v Speaker 1>lose their elections and we're going to get to control

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think anybody has made him their heron.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me play this for you. Let me play this

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Sorry, you got to hold on one second,

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<v Speaker 1>man me no, no, because I got to play this sound. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, but I got to play this sound.

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<v Speaker 1>You walked right into it.

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<v Speaker 10>I have come to understand what Donald Trump, what pops

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<v Speaker 2>Up for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike, drop on that one, my friend literally get at

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<v Speaker 1>eerie Mike, So yeah, no. And Senator Chris van Holland

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<v Speaker 1>who travels down there to All Salvador to try to

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<v Speaker 1>save the quote Maryland man, but never a word of

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<v Speaker 1>condolence to the mother of the Maryland woman brutally raped

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<v Speaker 1>America over and over and over again. He has had

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of due process.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand there's some dispute from the administration as to

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<v Speaker 1>whether a mistake was made here, But if a mistake

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<v Speaker 1>was made, then it had to do with the fact

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<v Speaker 1>not that he was not subject to deportation, but there

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<v Speaker 1>may have been in order that he couldn't be deported

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<v Speaker 1>to El Salvador because he said gang members down there

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<v Speaker 1>would kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder why so. But now the Democratic Party is

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<v Speaker 2>making him their new Hero.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey Dan, why are you ignored alleged.

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<v Speaker 2>On MS thirteen. I haven't seen it proven. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen it proven. Huh, I have not seen it proven.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh you haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've seen an awful lot of evidence that he was.

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<v Speaker 8>How could it be proven? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Could be proved well, it could certainly be proven in

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<v Speaker 1>connection with a criminal charge. But as you know, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>As you know Mike, the evidence, and I consider it

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<v Speaker 1>very powerful evidence that he's MS thirteen came up in

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<v Speaker 1>connection with a criminal investigation into some other actors where

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<v Speaker 1>he was then present with them, and there were lots

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<v Speaker 1>of other indicators in the evidence that he was MS thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but there wasn't evidence tying into that particular crime. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you think we should keep I legal immigrant MS

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen gang members in America until they actually commit a crime.

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<v Speaker 8>No. No, I'm just pointing out the fact that you're

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<v Speaker 8>using the term alleged because you know you have to No.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I use it because I'm an honest, fair guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I use it, because I haven't seen proof

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<v Speaker 1>of that crime. I believe he is MS thirteen. He's

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<v Speaker 1>here illegally. He should be deported and is claimed that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be killed if he goes to El Salvador because

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<v Speaker 1>of some gang rivalry I'm not real sympathetic to. But listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if a court is ordered he cannot be deported to

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<v Speaker 1>El Salvador, then that either has to be overcome in

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<v Speaker 1>court or you deport him somewhere else. But Mike, you

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<v Speaker 1>leave out and you do this. I'm sure it's just

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<v Speaker 1>your enthusiasm. You leave out the fact that Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>won in the US Supreme Court and and so now

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<v Speaker 1>he is there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, is there breaking news?

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<v Speaker 1>The US Supreme Court reverse that nine zip ruling in

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's favor.

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<v Speaker 8>The ruling are you are you playing Stephen Miller?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 8>Is that your Is that your job?

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<v Speaker 12>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>That's it that you got doing that? So that's not

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<v Speaker 8>what the ruling said, Dan, I think you read that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, yeah, what did you say, Mike. I'm no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>pack it up, you packet. I'll tell you what it said.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what it said.

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<v Speaker 9>It said.

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<v Speaker 2>The Trump said, oh, well, now okay, Mike, you've come alive.

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<v Speaker 8>Please tell us, well, I mean, you're gonna you're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>just you're just gonna repeat Stephen Miller talking points.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the best you got. I'm right and you

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<v Speaker 2>can't prove I'm wrong. So you're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 8>It's Stephen return to the Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean facilitate my good friend?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it certainly doesn't mean to say I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>This week can agree on right, and we have to

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<v Speaker 1>hit a hard break, but this week can agree on.

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<v Speaker 1>The US Supreme Court is good with words, and it

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<v Speaker 1>knows the words to use if it's going to order

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<v Speaker 1>the president to return him to the US. And the

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<v Speaker 1>word is not facilitate the return. The words are return

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<v Speaker 1>his blank to the US. They could have said that, right, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't think they could have.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and we got to hit a hard break.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the US Supreme Court, it just doesn't use

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<v Speaker 1>language like that, and it doesn't use language and precisely,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole point is that a district court and listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I have ultimate respect for district court judges all over America.

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<v Speaker 2>I practice in front him, but.

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<v Speaker 1>That a district court judge cannot order a president to

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<v Speaker 1>do something when it comes to his or her commander

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<v Speaker 1>in chief, Roll can't do it. And so what the

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<v Speaker 1>US Supreme Court is saying is you've got to facilitate

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<v Speaker 1>the return. And the proper read of that, in my

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<v Speaker 1>view and I think many others, because the Left is

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<v Speaker 1>really upset with that nine zip Supreme Court ruling, is hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if El Salvador decides to return him, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>send a plane. They could have ordered Trump to bring

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<v Speaker 1>him back. If they wanted to order Trump to bring

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<v Speaker 1>him back.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the Dan Capla Show.

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<v Speaker 9>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to talk about crazy the Democratic Party now

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<v Speaker 1>and making Abrego Garcia their hero. As a Texter says,

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<v Speaker 1>how did the Texter put it?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the DEM's new George Floyd. Uh huh and remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>But what the US Supreme Court said, and it was zip,

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<v Speaker 1>is that wait a second, it may well exceed the

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<v Speaker 1>power of a district court judge to order the executive

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<v Speaker 1>to effectuate the return of Garcia from a foreign country,

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<v Speaker 1>effectuate make it happen. Right, And so that's the big

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<v Speaker 1>victory for Trump is not in his commander in chief

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<v Speaker 1>Rolie that cannot be directed by the district court. And listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I have ultimate respect for district court judges, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I practice in front of them here and other places.

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<v Speaker 1>But you do have this separation of powers, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have the commander in chief powers assigned to the executive,

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<v Speaker 1>to the president. And so what the Supreme Court said

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<v Speaker 1>was that it's proper to order the executive to facilitate it,

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<v Speaker 1>which means to help make it happen, But you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>order the executive to actuated to make it happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is all against the backdrop of the administration has

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<v Speaker 1>admitted there was an administrative error and he was subject

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<v Speaker 1>to deportation, but not to El Salvador. But he's there

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<v Speaker 1>now and he's a citizen of Ol Salvador. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know that Supreme Court, the way I read it, says

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot order the president to go get him out

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<v Speaker 1>of El Salvador.

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<v Speaker 9>And he's not a citizen here. You know who was

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<v Speaker 9>Rachel Morin.

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<v Speaker 15>This is one of eerie Mike's stupidest, worst arguments he's

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<v Speaker 15>ever made on this show. And if he likes losing,

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<v Speaker 15>by all means, Mike continue down this path. Because Americans,

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<v Speaker 15>as per that poll that Harry Inton mentioned, still a

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<v Speaker 15>majority favor the deportation of all illegal immigrants, not just

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<v Speaker 15>criminal illegal aliens. But in this particular case that eerie

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<v Speaker 15>Mike's heart bleeds, that Senator Van Holland's heart bleeds for

555
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<v Speaker 15>this so called marilynd Man, and yet they're silent on

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<v Speaker 15>Rachel Morin exposes them for who they are, and that's

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<v Speaker 15>not where the American people are, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not just those two.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at Michael Bennett, look at the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the Democrats, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>They've made it very.

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<v Speaker 1>Clear over the years where they're at and choosing sides

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<v Speaker 1>between folks here illegally have committed other crimes and innocent

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<v Speaker 1>American citizens. They've chosen sides many times over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been against the innocent American citizens. Texters, Dana,

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<v Speaker 1>just re read the April ten ruling. You should really

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<v Speaker 1>read it versus listening to racist Stephen Miller talking points.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as a guy who's practiced law for forty

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<v Speaker 1>years and.

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<v Speaker 2>I read a lot of court opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>I had read it. I did read it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>says exactly what it says. It tested it and I

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<v Speaker 1>might have been but I appreciate the enthusiasm, would appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>some more accuracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, we can say chaff sweet to eerie.

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<v Speaker 8>Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>He's crying like a baby right now. Hilarious How Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>love on vetted illegals. Yes, because it's their future. It's

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<v Speaker 1>their future. That's why Michael Bennett pushing a bill that

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<v Speaker 1>would make it illegal for ICE to detain an illegal immigrant.

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<v Speaker 2>At the polling place, right, not even trying to hide.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why to the Democratic Party in Colorado and nationally,

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<v Speaker 1>all these women who get raped and murdered and all

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<v Speaker 1>these other victims, they're an acceptable casualty rate for the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats to get what they want, which is a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of new voters, because they know they aren't doing

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<v Speaker 1>so well with the ones here. Now, Dan, where were

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<v Speaker 1>the Dems caring about due process with the J six prisoners.

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<v Speaker 1>Many J six prisoners were under in human conditions in

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<v Speaker 1>the US for years. They did not speak up for them.

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<v Speaker 1>That from our friend Alexa Dan. Supreme Court stated Garcia

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<v Speaker 1>was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal Toel Salvador,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was illegal to send him there.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's fine for the government to break the law.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not. I've never said that, I never would

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<v Speaker 1>say that. Government says it was a mistake. Mistakes happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but the government can't Forceell Salvador to send him back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Trump could bring an awful lot of influence

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<v Speaker 1>to bear, but he clearly doesn't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get why.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at all, and there are plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of good people who come here illegally, and they shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The border should be the border should be acknowledged. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of good people who come ire illegally.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are a lot of monsters also, And so

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<v Speaker 1>why would Trump want to go out of his way

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<v Speaker 1>to bring back somebody who law enforcement investigations suggests all

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<v Speaker 1>these MS thirteen ties, etc. Now I'm seeing stories about

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<v Speaker 1>his wife accused him of beating her. Why would Trump

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<v Speaker 1>want to go out of his way to bring him back?

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<v Speaker 1>The US Supreme Court has not ordered him to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan quit saying, Marilyn Man, he is a legal immigrant

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<v Speaker 1>El Salvador MS thirteen men, I use Maryland Man to

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<v Speaker 1>mock the Democrats. My friend, If that got lost, my apologies,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try to make that more clear. Dan. If that

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<v Speaker 1>guy comes back from El Salvador, he won't be put

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<v Speaker 1>on trial, found guilty, and sent back to Salvador after

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<v Speaker 1>his trial, or will he just end up in a

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<v Speaker 1>prison here that he will end up in. Listen, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not charged with a specific crime right now. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be shocked if we woke up tomorrow and he had

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<v Speaker 1>been deported to a different country, if he'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Just been that would be Kaylee. Wasn't it dump somewhere else?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that?

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<v Speaker 9>I would be up to, Boo Keley at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not an American citizensn't But right right, Boo Keley,

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to do what Trump wants him to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Right So if Trump says, hey, we're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>shuffle this guy over to this, he'll find some other

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<v Speaker 1>country that's even worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'll dump them there. But crying.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job is always Kelly, Thank you, Hope everybody, every

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<v Speaker 1>Christian has a meaningful Holy Thursday, tonight and tomorrow, or a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Friday show.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that show because we talk about some of

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<v Speaker 1>these provable, documentable proof of God's stories, really inspiring cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Catch you tomorrow on The Dan Caplis Show.
