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Speaker 1: the roads. I don't know that a whole lot of
Speaker 1: this snow is going to stick, but it's going to
Speaker 1: be sloppy and slushy and all that. Maybe on the
Speaker 1: grass some of it sticks. But hey, really interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: Before I get to this very very important bill that
Speaker 1: I've been pushing for for years, and I love that
Speaker 1: this is a bipartisan bill that was just introduced, I
Speaker 1: do want to let you know about this potentially really
Speaker 1: important development in the US Supreme Court, and we won't
Speaker 1: know until we get there. We're going to get there
Speaker 1: for the hearing on May fifteen, and we'll be able
Speaker 1: to read something into the oral argument before scotus.
Speaker 2: But here's the headline.
Speaker 1: Supreme Court poised to make major decision that could set
Speaker 1: limits on the power.
Speaker 2: Of district judges.
Speaker 1: This comes after three federal judges issued separate nationwide injunctions
Speaker 1: blocking an executive order by President Donald Trump ending birthright
Speaker 1: citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2: Now here's why.
Speaker 1: This is so interesting, and I think means it's going
Speaker 1: to be a really important holding ruling. The Supremes are
Speaker 1: working ot on this one. Normally they're not doing oral
Speaker 1: argument this late right because they wrap up their session
Speaker 1: at the end of June, so normally they're not bringing
Speaker 1: people in for arguments as late as May fifteen. And
Speaker 1: I think the reason they're doing it here is because
Speaker 1: obviously we've seen a whole lot of nationwide injunctions being
Speaker 1: issued by individual federal judges, and so I think the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court is probably going to go beyond this particular issue,
Speaker 1: as important as it is, and address more broadly this
Speaker 1: idea of district court judges issuing national injunctions. And I
Speaker 1: don't think for a second the Supreme Court is going
Speaker 1: to say that can never happen. But I think the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court is going to lay down the criteria, put
Speaker 1: down a template, and try to rein it in that
Speaker 1: That's what I think we're going to see come out
Speaker 1: of this or they wouldn't be doing it this late
Speaker 1: and this way. So I think that'd be a very
Speaker 1: healthy thing for America. So I'm glad that the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court is taking it on. So let me get now
Speaker 1: to this very very important bill. I've been calling for
Speaker 1: this for years because, as you know, my real job is,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been a trial lawyer now for forty
Speaker 1: plus years and representing victims in wrongful death cases and
Speaker 1: catastrophic injury cases. And so you see all this carnage
Speaker 1: on the roadway, and part of my job is I
Speaker 1: look at the pictures, I meet, the families i'm around,
Speaker 1: you know, just the most heartbreaking things all the time,
Speaker 1: including today. And so you sit here and say, this
Speaker 1: is crazy. There it's a killing field on our roadways,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be this way. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: always going to have some bad things happen because it's
Speaker 1: a human condition. But there's so much more reckless driving
Speaker 1: on our roads than there needs to be. There's so
Speaker 1: much more death, there are so many more crashes than
Speaker 1: there need to be on our roadways. So you would
Speaker 1: think that a people like the great people of Colorado would,
Speaker 1: as a matter of self survival, want to crack down
Speaker 1: on this, and you know it. You're out on the roads,
Speaker 1: you can see it's an epidemic. Now it's even gotten
Speaker 1: worse since COVID and just that self survival instinct. You
Speaker 1: would think that people would come together across party lines
Speaker 1: to say not in our state, but that has not
Speaker 1: been happening. And we have this big gaping hole in
Speaker 1: our laws where you got people killing people flight out,
Speaker 1: killing people on the roads through careless driving, and the
Speaker 1: law does not empower the das and the judges.
Speaker 2: To punish those people the way they should be punished.
Speaker 1: There's this big gap between careless which is treated as
Speaker 1: this high level misdemeanor careless for causing death, and between
Speaker 1: the felony. Because the felony vehicular sell vehicular homicide, you
Speaker 1: need this recklessness component. And without getting into legal weeds,
Speaker 1: now you know there's a lot of act going on,
Speaker 1: but it's harder for das to prove. So this is
Speaker 1: so wrong and so unnecessarily dangerous. So this bill is
Speaker 1: intended to address it. Here's that Channel four version of
Speaker 1: the story. Keep in mind it's sponsored by both a
Speaker 1: Republican senator in Colorado and a Democrat Senator in Colorado.
Speaker 3: Bill was introduced in the Colorado legislature this week that
Speaker 3: would increase the penalties for careless driving causing serious bodily
Speaker 3: injury or resulting in.
Speaker 4: Death right now, that charge carries a maximum of a
Speaker 4: year in jail. We've covered several high profile cases in
Speaker 4: just the last two years where children were killed by
Speaker 4: careless drivers while just walking or riding their bikes.
Speaker 3: Already this year, twenty one pedestrians and cyclists have died
Speaker 3: on Colorado roads, and those kinds of fatalities have increased
Speaker 3: seventy eight percent in our state in the last ten years.
Speaker 4: And that proposed change to Colorado state law could impact
Speaker 4: many families. To report on a Rapo County Ashley Portillo
Speaker 4: is live at euclid At Middle School where thirteen year
Speaker 4: old Liam Stewart was riding his bike to middle school
Speaker 4: in October twenty twenty three when a driver hit and
Speaker 4: killed him.
Speaker 3: Ashley, you spoke with Liam's dad, who has been working
Speaker 3: to get the laws changed and is advocating for safe
Speaker 3: for streets.
Speaker 5: Right And I was able to speak with Liam's father
Speaker 5: earlier today who told me that phone call from police
Speaker 5: is a phone call that no parents, no family should
Speaker 5: ever have to get now. What has made this situation
Speaker 5: even more challenging and emotional is when they learn that
Speaker 5: the person, the driver responsible for killing their own son
Speaker 5: was only facing a traffic misdemeanor. As Liam's father, it's
Speaker 5: something that Josh start sits on Liam's memorial bench.
Speaker 2: It just kind of signifies that we had a Liam
Speaker 2: in this world.
Speaker 5: He's reminded of a son he lost nearly a year
Speaker 5: and a half ago.
Speaker 2: It starts to help you appreciate the short amount of
Speaker 2: time we did have.
Speaker 5: Since Liam's passing, Josh has been advocating for safer streets.
Speaker 6: No parents should ever lose a child, especially when it's preventable.
Speaker 7: He's also working to change state law.
Speaker 5: Under current law, a person charged in careless driving resulting
Speaker 5: in death faces a class one misdemeanor traffic offense with
Speaker 5: up to one year in jail and or a one
Speaker 5: thousand dollars fine.
Speaker 7: Was at a surprise to you guys, as a family.
Speaker 6: I sat up for probably a week reading criminal documents
Speaker 6: trying to figure out how this could only be a
Speaker 6: misdemeanor that somebody must have gotten this run.
Speaker 5: If the bill passes, it would increase the penalty to
Speaker 5: a classic felony and a much longer sentence. And Liam's case,
Speaker 5: the driver pled guilty then was sentenced to two years
Speaker 5: or provation.
Speaker 7: What the one thousand dollars fine? Do you feel like
Speaker 7: justice has been served for Liam?
Speaker 8: Don't?
Speaker 6: No, Okay, justice has not been served for our family.
Speaker 5: With the change in law, Josh's hope is that the
Speaker 5: loss of a loved one in similar cases isn't just
Speaker 5: seen as a low level traffic violation.
Speaker 6: We're just trying to get justice for anybody that has
Speaker 6: to go through this. I never want another family to
Speaker 6: hear what we had to hear.
Speaker 5: Josh added, Liam was a great big brother. No, I
Speaker 5: think about him a lot and friend. We'd be turning
Speaker 5: fifteen this year getting us permit. And while Liam's opportunity
Speaker 5: to get behind the wheels taken away too soon, his family.
Speaker 6: The world is not a better place without.
Speaker 7: Of here helps to bring change in light of tragedy.
Speaker 6: I think we're doing right by his legacy to make
Speaker 6: some changes that I think he would appreciate.
Speaker 5: I Meanwhile, opponents of the bill say increasing these penalties
Speaker 5: and making them even harsher will not prevent crashes. From
Speaker 5: happening in the future. By the way, this bill is
Speaker 5: scheduled to be heard in committee, happening this coming Wednesday.
Speaker 7: Refording live in Littleton. I'm not support the covering Colorado.
Speaker 2: First, Ron Ashley, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: If you live in a Reco county, actually is your reporter,
Speaker 4: reach out to her with your story ideas through our
Speaker 4: websites or our tip line on the show.
Speaker 2: I would love to talk to an opponent of this bill.
Speaker 1: But what good person could could make any kind of
Speaker 1: credible argument against this bill. I would love to hear
Speaker 1: that argument. All the idea that, Okay, if all of
Speaker 1: a sudden we have these tougher laws that are going
Speaker 1: to create real penalties if you kill an innocent person
Speaker 1: on the roadway, that will make our roadways safer. Well,
Speaker 1: why you have any loss right? And what about respect
Speaker 1: for the victims? You heard that man who lost his son?
Speaker 1: What about respect to the victims? I have sat there,
Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan, it was what a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: I was over in the jeff Co jail and I
Speaker 1: was deposing a trucker who spilled pipe killed.
Speaker 2: My client's husband. He'd been deported more than ten times.
Speaker 1: She hadn't even been in the country, and I was
Speaker 1: in jail deposing him, cross examining monder oaths for five
Speaker 1: hours before he was about to be released from jail,
Speaker 1: and then Ice ended up picking him up and getting
Speaker 1: that deportation process going. But I'm sitting there cross examining
Speaker 1: this guy, and and you know, you think of all
Speaker 1: these other cases out there, and he was out right.
Speaker 1: His max sentence was just short of a year because
Speaker 1: Jeff go prosecuted it as this misdemeanor, and I've got
Speaker 1: and I won't take the time.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 1: I have sat in Die's offices with my victim another
Speaker 1: trucking case where her wonderful husband killed this this trucker
Speaker 1: admitted when I cross examined him, took his eyes off
Speaker 1: the road for nine seconds at highway speeds, killed this
Speaker 1: beautiful man. This this tremendous husband and father, mister maaanor charge.
Speaker 2: So we've had this big gaping hole in Colorado law.
Speaker 1: There is no good argument, no good argument against this bill.
Speaker 1: But keep in mind as you listen to all this,
Speaker 1: and I'm sad to say this, it endangers you right now,
Speaker 1: whether you're on the road or not, because you probably
Speaker 1: have a loved one who is It endangers everybody who
Speaker 1: can hear this. It endangers everybody in Colorado whoever ventures.
Speaker 2: Onto a roadway.
Speaker 1: We have a big gaping hole in the law that
Speaker 1: puts you and your loved ones in more danger every day.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be fixed. You're on the Dan Caplas.
Speaker 9: Show and now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 10: I have come to understand what Donald Trump, what pops
Speaker 10: into his head and he says he's going to carry
Speaker 10: it out. I once again, he talked about the tariffs,
Speaker 10: he talked about you know, he's going to deport people,
Speaker 10: and this whole thing with mister Braio Garcia. It's that
Speaker 10: old wisdom and terrifying is if you're not speaking up
Speaker 10: for this man, there will be no one.
Speaker 2: Left to speak up for you.
Speaker 1: Whether please keep talking, Tim, He is God's gift to Republicans.
Speaker 2: My goodness.
Speaker 1: By the way, this mister he calls him Abrigo Garcia.
Speaker 1: By the way, did he call him mister Trump or
Speaker 1: President Trump. I'd have to go back and listen to
Speaker 1: that clip. I don't think he did, but I'll double
Speaker 1: check that. Anyway, this kilmer Abrigo Garcia or the quote
Speaker 1: Maryland man, as you've heard of obviously, that there's lots
Speaker 1: of reason to believe Ms thirteen, lots of reason to
Speaker 1: believe lots of other bad things.
Speaker 2: But he is here.
Speaker 1: Illegally, and he is a resident of El Salvador. He's
Speaker 1: a citizen, pardon me, of El Salvador. And yet the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party wants to make him right now. They're hero
Speaker 1: wants to make him right now their cause, please have
Speaker 1: at it right, because it's going to be like a
Speaker 1: ninety nine to one issue in America.
Speaker 2: But they're flailing right there.
Speaker 1: They're flailing, and so they're exposing themselves more and more often.
Speaker 1: And that's a good thing because the more people know
Speaker 1: the truth about the modern Democratic Party in America and
Speaker 1: here in Colorado, well then that the better Republicans are
Speaker 1: going to do, and the sooner we're going to be
Speaker 1: able to get all this straightened out. Three or three
Speaker 1: someone three eight two five five takes d an five
Speaker 1: seven seven three nine. But behind this craziness from the
Speaker 1: Maryland senator right who then flies down this Senator Chris
Speaker 1: van Holland, by the way, had anybody ever heard of
Speaker 1: him before all of this? But he now flying down
Speaker 1: to El Salvador to try to save the quote Maryland
Speaker 1: man who's actually a citizen of El Salvador and in
Speaker 1: the USC legally.
Speaker 11: I'm here at the airport. I'm about to board my
Speaker 11: flight for San Salvador. The goal of this mission is
Speaker 11: to let the Trump administration to let the government of
Speaker 11: Al Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting
Speaker 11: to bring Albrego Garcia home.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, but did we hear anything from Chris Holland or
Speaker 1: anything from Tim Walls about the vicious rapes and murders
Speaker 1: of say, women all over the country, but certainly in
Speaker 1: Maryland and in this case by illegal immigrants. I don't
Speaker 1: think we heard a peep from them on that. And
Speaker 1: that did not escape the attention of Patty Morin suffering
Speaker 1: through the unimaginable. That the worst thing any parent could
Speaker 1: possibly imagine, that the rape and murder of their child.
Speaker 1: But not a peep from Tim Walls or Chris Holland
Speaker 1: about that. But fortunately President Trump had this brave woman
Speaker 1: to the White House, and here's part of what she
Speaker 1: had to say.
Speaker 12: A lot of you don't know the whole story about
Speaker 12: Rachel and about the crime that was committed against her,
Speaker 12: even us, her family, we didn't know all the details.
Speaker 12: They kept most of it close to their chest, the
Speaker 12: detectives because they didn't want to do anything to.
Speaker 2: Hurt the case.
Speaker 12: They wanted to keep the integrity of the case, so
Speaker 12: they kept everything close. I sat for the last two
Speaker 12: weeks in her trial, and we saw a layer upon
Speaker 12: layer upon layer of evidence against the accused, an illegal
Speaker 12: immigrant from El Salvador, and the things that we thought, well,
Speaker 12: maybe this might have happened. We didn't know. But when
Speaker 12: we were at the trial, we got all the puzzle pieces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of these details are going to be
Speaker 1: really hard, and you may not want young children hearing this.
Speaker 12: Well, she went on that trail that day, but she
Speaker 12: was not planning on dying. She wasn't planning on walking
Speaker 12: to her death. She was planning going to the grocery
Speaker 12: store with our girls afterwards. Victor Martinez, he waited for her,
Speaker 12: He waited for her to come closer. He saw her,
Speaker 12: he saw that there was nobody around. He attacked her.
Speaker 12: He dragged her one hundred and fifty feet, blood gushing
Speaker 12: from her head. It left one hundred and fifty foot
Speaker 12: trail of her blood. To the culverts where he took
Speaker 12: He picked her up. He threw her against the wall
Speaker 12: of the tunnel and he raped her. But before he
Speaker 12: did that, he stopped on that trail and rocks were
Speaker 12: still stained with her blood. He used them to can
Speaker 12: hammer her head against those rocks. They say twenty at
Speaker 12: least twenty times. They could count the cuts in her head.
Speaker 12: They said that when they did the autopsy, and I've
Speaker 12: seen the pictures, there's a six inch square in the
Speaker 12: back of her head where the skull is shattered the
Speaker 12: way that you would crush an eggshell in pieces, three
Speaker 12: forths of her brain, hemorrhaged, her right and left side
Speaker 12: of her face, bashed in her beautiful face, bashed in
Speaker 12: her head, bashed in, broken bones, fractures. He takes and
Speaker 12: he drags her some more. He drags her through the
Speaker 12: thorn bushes. She has all the scrapes and cuts on
Speaker 12: her body. There wasn't one inch of her body that
Speaker 12: didn't have some kind of injury, whether it's bruising, her
Speaker 12: broken bones, contusions, the scratches. She had, a fractured rib,
Speaker 12: fractured knows, fractured skull. And then he takes her into
Speaker 12: the tunnel and he picks her up, he throws her
Speaker 12: against the wall. The blood is gushing from her head,
Speaker 12: her hair is soaked in blood. And they showed us
Speaker 12: pictures of her body against the wall, outlined the blood,
Speaker 12: outlined her body.
Speaker 1: And not one word from this SLB Senator Chris van Holland,
Speaker 1: not one word of sympathy to her or her family.
Speaker 1: But he flies down to that same Ol Salvador to
Speaker 1: stand up for this alleged m S thirteen gang member
Speaker 1: who's a citizen of L Salvador. Not one word of
Speaker 1: condolence from Tim Walls right, who says, now, if we
Speaker 1: don't stand up for this MS thirteen guy in L Salvador,
Speaker 1: who will stand up for us? This is beyond insanity.
Speaker 1: This is ed vocating evil over good. This Democratic Party
Speaker 1: has completely lost its way, and the people can see it.
Speaker 9: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 13: Sure Van Holland and the Democrats applauding his trip to
Speaker 13: El Salvador today are incapable of having any shred of
Speaker 13: common sense or empathy for their own constituents and our citizens.
Speaker 13: Nobody knows this more than the woman standing to my right,
Speaker 13: Patty Morin, whose beautiful daughter Rachel, was brutally maimed and
Speaker 13: murdered at the hands of an illegal alien in August
Speaker 13: of twenty twenty three. Patty no longer has her daughter
Speaker 13: because of the failed Democrat Party's open border and these
Speaker 13: are policies that President Trump is bringing an end to.
Speaker 2: So well said, and just before the last break, we played.
Speaker 1: Sound from that brave woman who laid out the details
Speaker 1: of what had happened to her daughter, a story repeated
Speaker 1: far too often once would be far too often, but
Speaker 1: all over America by people here illegally. Now, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of good people who come here illegally, but
Speaker 1: there are also a lot of hardcore criminals who come
Speaker 1: here illegally because the Democrats won them all.
Speaker 2: They want them all as voters.
Speaker 1: And it's just absolutely obscene, it's immoral, and the American
Speaker 1: people have thoroughly rejected it.
Speaker 2: Listen to this here we end this is on CNN.
Speaker 14: To port all undocumented immigrants. Voters favoring the government trying
Speaker 14: to deport all eleven million of them. Back in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 14: just thirty eight percent of voters wanted the governments that
Speaker 14: to try to deport all eleven million undocumented immigrants compared
Speaker 14: to where we are in twenty twenty five, fifty six percent.
Speaker 14: The majority the American people have come a long way
Speaker 14: on this issue, much closer to Donald Trump. And I
Speaker 14: think that's a big part of the reason why Americans
Speaker 14: are increasingly the country is on the right track when
Speaker 14: it comes to immigration policy, and why Donald Trump's not
Speaker 14: approval rating on that issue is in the positive.
Speaker 1: And why do you think that big flip? I think
Speaker 1: the reasons are obvious. It's clear America now is set
Speaker 1: on a course and the Democratic Party is on the
Speaker 1: wrong side of history, the wrong side of morality, the
Speaker 1: wrong side of the law, and they're going to be
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of an awful lot of elections,
Speaker 1: hopefully including the governor's race in Colorado. Let's go to
Speaker 1: Erie Mike grazing us with his presence again on the
Speaker 1: Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 2: Erie, how you doing?
Speaker 8: I'm better than I deserve.
Speaker 2: Good answer.
Speaker 1: You know what that reminds me of when I proposed
Speaker 1: to my wife, and I proposed to her on TV
Speaker 1: and then I get off air and I get a
Speaker 1: call from this reporter and she said, how much did
Speaker 1: the ring cost? And you know what, It's one of
Speaker 1: the few times in my life. I came up with
Speaker 1: the perfect answer. Yeah, more than I afford and less
Speaker 1: than she deserves. That was pretty good right on the
Speaker 1: fly to the Denver Post, and they used the clote you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 8: Hey Dan, I don't like Well. The reason I called
Speaker 8: is I think, you know, you were playing some pretty
Speaker 8: compelling audio before the break and really sad to listen
Speaker 8: to and and really horrible actually, but I think, you know,
Speaker 8: I think it's sort of takes away some of your
Speaker 8: argument about this this man that's been deported, because you know,
Speaker 8: everything that she recounted that I heard anyway, you came
Speaker 8: from what happened during due process of a trial, as
Speaker 8: terrible as it was. And I'm sure this guy was
Speaker 8: sound guilty and he's gonna he's gonna be at least
Speaker 8: I assumed he was. But I think what people are
Speaker 8: are frustrated with is that this general, this person, this
Speaker 8: man don't maybe the gentleman or I don't know what
Speaker 8: he was, but he was. He was erroneously deported. The
Speaker 8: administration admitted to that, and they're not they're not addressing it,
Speaker 8: and he didn't have any due process, and I think
Speaker 8: that's I think that's generally why there are people that
Speaker 8: are frustrated by that.
Speaker 1: Well, Mike, a few things there question your premise, So
Speaker 1: let's dive into that. But first of all, who's frustrated?
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, you got the Democratic Party right
Speaker 1: now making this guy their hero. And and you know
Speaker 1: that that's a very good thing for America because it's
Speaker 1: going to mean a lot of Democrats are going to
Speaker 1: lose their elections and we're going to get to control
Speaker 1: our border because Democrats lose their elections. So who are
Speaker 1: those people out there who are frustrated over this other
Speaker 1: than elected Democrat officials.
Speaker 8: I don't think anybody has made him their heron.
Speaker 1: Let me play this for you. Let me play this
Speaker 1: for you. Sorry, you got to hold on one second,
Speaker 1: man me no, no, because I got to play this sound. Man,
Speaker 1: I love you, but I got to play this sound.
Speaker 1: You walked right into it.
Speaker 10: I have come to understand what Donald Trump, what pops
Speaker 10: into his head and he says he's going to carry
Speaker 10: it out. I once again, he talked about the tariffs,
Speaker 10: he talked about you know, he's going to deport people
Speaker 10: and this whole thing with mister Braio Garcia. It's that
Speaker 10: old wisdom and terrifying is if you're not speaking up
Speaker 10: for this man, there will be no one left to speak.
Speaker 2: Up for you.
Speaker 1: Mike, drop on that one, my friend literally get at
Speaker 1: eerie Mike, So yeah, no. And Senator Chris van Holland
Speaker 1: who travels down there to All Salvador to try to
Speaker 1: save the quote Maryland man, but never a word of
Speaker 1: condolence to the mother of the Maryland woman brutally raped
Speaker 1: by another illegal immigrant from El Salvador. In terms of
Speaker 1: due process, my young friend, this allegend MS thirteen gang
Speaker 1: member has been in front of immigration tribunals, etc. In
Speaker 1: America over and over and over again. He has had
Speaker 1: a ton of due process.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I understand there's some dispute from the administration as to
Speaker 1: whether a mistake was made here, But if a mistake
Speaker 1: was made, then it had to do with the fact
Speaker 1: not that he was not subject to deportation, but there
Speaker 1: may have been in order that he couldn't be deported
Speaker 1: to El Salvador because he said gang members down there
Speaker 1: would kill him.
Speaker 2: I wonder why so. But now the Democratic Party is
Speaker 2: making him their new Hero.
Speaker 8: Hey Dan, why are you ignored alleged.
Speaker 2: On MS thirteen. I haven't seen it proven. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen it proven. Huh, I have not seen it proven.
Speaker 8: Oh you haven't.
Speaker 2: No, I've seen an awful lot of evidence that he was.
Speaker 8: How could it be proven? Well?
Speaker 1: Could be proved well, it could certainly be proven in
Speaker 1: connection with a criminal charge. But as you know, Mike,
Speaker 1: As you know Mike, the evidence, and I consider it
Speaker 1: very powerful evidence that he's MS thirteen came up in
Speaker 1: connection with a criminal investigation into some other actors where
Speaker 1: he was then present with them, and there were lots
Speaker 1: of other indicators in the evidence that he was MS thirteen,
Speaker 1: but there wasn't evidence tying into that particular crime. So
Speaker 1: do you think we should keep I legal immigrant MS
Speaker 1: thirteen gang members in America until they actually commit a crime.
Speaker 8: No. No, I'm just pointing out the fact that you're
Speaker 8: using the term alleged because you know you have to No.
Speaker 2: I don't have to do anything.
Speaker 1: I use it because I'm an honest, fair guy, and
Speaker 1: that's why I use it, because I haven't seen proof
Speaker 1: of that crime. I believe he is MS thirteen. He's
Speaker 1: here illegally. He should be deported and is claimed that, oh,
Speaker 1: he'll be killed if he goes to El Salvador because
Speaker 1: of some gang rivalry I'm not real sympathetic to. But listen,
Speaker 1: if a court is ordered he cannot be deported to
Speaker 1: El Salvador, then that either has to be overcome in
Speaker 1: court or you deport him somewhere else. But Mike, you
Speaker 1: leave out and you do this. I'm sure it's just
Speaker 1: your enthusiasm. You leave out the fact that Trump administration
Speaker 1: won in the US Supreme Court and and so now
Speaker 1: he is there.
Speaker 2: No, no, is there breaking news?
Speaker 1: The US Supreme Court reverse that nine zip ruling in
Speaker 1: Trump's favor.
Speaker 8: The ruling are you are you playing Stephen Miller?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 8: Is that your Is that your job?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 8: That's it that you got doing that? So that's not
Speaker 8: what the ruling said, Dan, I think you read that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, yeah, what did you say, Mike. I'm no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: pack it up, you packet. I'll tell you what it said.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it said.
Speaker 9: It said.
Speaker 2: The Trump said, oh, well, now okay, Mike, you've come alive.
Speaker 8: Please tell us, well, I mean, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 8: just you're just gonna repeat Stephen Miller talking points.
Speaker 2: So that's the best you got. I'm right and you
Speaker 2: can't prove I'm wrong. So you're gonna say.
Speaker 8: It's Stephen return to the Yes.
Speaker 2: What does that mean facilitate my good friend?
Speaker 8: Well, it certainly doesn't mean to say I can't do it.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: This week can agree on right, and we have to
Speaker 1: hit a hard break, but this week can agree on.
Speaker 1: The US Supreme Court is good with words, and it
Speaker 1: knows the words to use if it's going to order
Speaker 1: the president to return him to the US. And the
Speaker 1: word is not facilitate the return. The words are return
Speaker 1: his blank to the US. They could have said that, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Don't think they could have.
Speaker 2: Right, and we got to hit a hard break.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the US Supreme Court, it just doesn't use
Speaker 1: language like that, and it doesn't use language and precisely,
Speaker 1: the whole point is that a district court and listen,
Speaker 1: I have ultimate respect for district court judges all over America.
Speaker 2: I practice in front him, but.
Speaker 1: That a district court judge cannot order a president to
Speaker 1: do something when it comes to his or her commander
Speaker 1: in chief, Roll can't do it. And so what the
Speaker 1: US Supreme Court is saying is you've got to facilitate
Speaker 1: the return. And the proper read of that, in my
Speaker 1: view and I think many others, because the Left is
Speaker 1: really upset with that nine zip Supreme Court ruling, is hey,
Speaker 1: if El Salvador decides to return him, you got to
Speaker 1: send a plane. They could have ordered Trump to bring
Speaker 1: him back. If they wanted to order Trump to bring
Speaker 1: him back.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 9: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about crazy the Democratic Party now
Speaker 1: and making Abrego Garcia their hero. As a Texter says,
Speaker 1: how did the Texter put it?
Speaker 2: Dan?
Speaker 1: This is the DEM's new George Floyd. Uh huh and remarkable.
Speaker 1: But what the US Supreme Court said, and it was zip,
Speaker 1: is that wait a second, it may well exceed the
Speaker 1: power of a district court judge to order the executive
Speaker 1: to effectuate the return of Garcia from a foreign country,
Speaker 1: effectuate make it happen. Right, And so that's the big
Speaker 1: victory for Trump is not in his commander in chief
Speaker 1: Rolie that cannot be directed by the district court. And listen,
Speaker 1: I have ultimate respect for district court judges, I said,
Speaker 1: I practice in front of them here and other places.
Speaker 1: But you do have this separation of powers, and you
Speaker 1: have the commander in chief powers assigned to the executive,
Speaker 1: to the president. And so what the Supreme Court said
Speaker 1: was that it's proper to order the executive to facilitate it,
Speaker 1: which means to help make it happen, But you cannot
Speaker 1: order the executive to actuated to make it happen. And
Speaker 1: this is all against the backdrop of the administration has
Speaker 1: admitted there was an administrative error and he was subject
Speaker 1: to deportation, but not to El Salvador. But he's there
Speaker 1: now and he's a citizen of Ol Salvador. And you
Speaker 1: know that Supreme Court, the way I read it, says
Speaker 1: you cannot order the president to go get him out
Speaker 1: of El Salvador.
Speaker 9: And he's not a citizen here. You know who was
Speaker 9: Rachel Morin.
Speaker 15: This is one of eerie Mike's stupidest, worst arguments he's
Speaker 15: ever made on this show. And if he likes losing,
Speaker 15: by all means, Mike continue down this path. Because Americans,
Speaker 15: as per that poll that Harry Inton mentioned, still a
Speaker 15: majority favor the deportation of all illegal immigrants, not just
Speaker 15: criminal illegal aliens. But in this particular case that eerie
Speaker 15: Mike's heart bleeds, that Senator Van Holland's heart bleeds for
Speaker 15: this so called marilynd Man, and yet they're silent on
Speaker 15: Rachel Morin exposes them for who they are, and that's
Speaker 15: not where the American people are, right.
Speaker 2: And it's not just those two.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Michael Bennett, look at the rest
Speaker 1: of the Democrats, etc.
Speaker 2: They've made it very.
Speaker 1: Clear over the years where they're at and choosing sides
Speaker 1: between folks here illegally have committed other crimes and innocent
Speaker 1: American citizens. They've chosen sides many times over the years,
Speaker 1: and it's been against the innocent American citizens. Texters, Dana,
Speaker 1: just re read the April ten ruling. You should really
Speaker 1: read it versus listening to racist Stephen Miller talking points.
Speaker 1: You know, as a guy who's practiced law for forty
Speaker 1: years and.
Speaker 2: I read a lot of court opinions.
Speaker 1: I had read it. I did read it, and it
Speaker 1: says exactly what it says. It tested it and I
Speaker 1: might have been but I appreciate the enthusiasm, would appreciate
Speaker 1: some more accuracy.
Speaker 2: Dan, we can say chaff sweet to eerie.
Speaker 8: Mike.
Speaker 1: He's crying like a baby right now. Hilarious How Democrats
Speaker 1: love on vetted illegals. Yes, because it's their future. It's
Speaker 1: their future. That's why Michael Bennett pushing a bill that
Speaker 1: would make it illegal for ICE to detain an illegal immigrant.
Speaker 2: At the polling place, right, not even trying to hide.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why to the Democratic Party in Colorado and nationally,
Speaker 1: all these women who get raped and murdered and all
Speaker 1: these other victims, they're an acceptable casualty rate for the
Speaker 1: Democrats to get what they want, which is a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of new voters, because they know they aren't doing
Speaker 1: so well with the ones here. Now, Dan, where were
Speaker 1: the Dems caring about due process with the J six prisoners.
Speaker 1: Many J six prisoners were under in human conditions in
Speaker 1: the US for years. They did not speak up for them.
Speaker 1: That from our friend Alexa Dan. Supreme Court stated Garcia
Speaker 1: was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal Toel Salvador,
Speaker 1: so it was illegal to send him there.
Speaker 2: I guess it's fine for the government to break the law.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. I've never said that, I never would
Speaker 1: say that. Government says it was a mistake. Mistakes happen,
Speaker 1: but the government can't Forceell Salvador to send him back.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Trump could bring an awful lot of influence
Speaker 1: to bear, but he clearly doesn't want to.
Speaker 2: And I get why.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at all, and there are plenty
Speaker 1: of good people who come here illegally, and they shouldn't.
Speaker 1: The border should be the border should be acknowledged. But
Speaker 1: there are a lot of good people who come ire illegally.
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of monsters also, And so
Speaker 1: why would Trump want to go out of his way
Speaker 1: to bring back somebody who law enforcement investigations suggests all
Speaker 1: these MS thirteen ties, etc. Now I'm seeing stories about
Speaker 1: his wife accused him of beating her. Why would Trump
Speaker 1: want to go out of his way to bring him back?
Speaker 1: The US Supreme Court has not ordered him to do that.
Speaker 1: Dan quit saying, Marilyn Man, he is a legal immigrant
Speaker 1: El Salvador MS thirteen men, I use Maryland Man to
Speaker 1: mock the Democrats. My friend, If that got lost, my apologies,
Speaker 1: I'll try to make that more clear. Dan. If that
Speaker 1: guy comes back from El Salvador, he won't be put
Speaker 1: on trial, found guilty, and sent back to Salvador after
Speaker 1: his trial, or will he just end up in a
Speaker 1: prison here that he will end up in. Listen, he's
Speaker 1: not charged with a specific crime right now. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be shocked if we woke up tomorrow and he had
Speaker 1: been deported to a different country, if he'd.
Speaker 2: Just been that would be Kaylee. Wasn't it dump somewhere else?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 9: I would be up to, Boo Keley at that point.
Speaker 2: He's not an American citizensn't But right right, Boo Keley,
Speaker 2: He's going to do what Trump wants him to do.
Speaker 1: Right So if Trump says, hey, we're just going to
Speaker 1: shuffle this guy over to this, he'll find some other
Speaker 1: country that's even worse.
Speaker 2: Right, I'll dump them there. But crying.
Speaker 1: Great job is always Kelly, Thank you, Hope everybody, every
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Speaker 2: Good Friday show.
Speaker 1: I love that show because we talk about some of
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Speaker 2: Catch you tomorrow on The Dan Caplis Show.