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<v Speaker 2>Saturday morning for us here. Calls have been a little

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<v Speaker 2>light this morning. I'm just saying you guys can take

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<v Speaker 2>the board. But there's still room for you. Eight three

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<v Speaker 2>three two, ask Dean eight three three the numeral two.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask Dean, I want to talk to Michael. Hey, Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, good good morning, Dean.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks you taken my call.

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<v Speaker 4>Say.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a home in southern California. It was build

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<v Speaker 3>in the early eighties. It's a slab floor. I have

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<v Speaker 3>a half bath powder room so called off of a

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<v Speaker 3>hallway that I need to upgrade the toilet in. The

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<v Speaker 3>problem is the toilet was designed on a fourteen inch

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<v Speaker 3>ruf in and back.

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<v Speaker 5>In the day, the rough end sizes were always done

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<v Speaker 5>with the toilet bowl. Now, as you may or may

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<v Speaker 5>not know, nowadays they always.

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<v Speaker 4>Use the standard twelve inch rut bowl and put a

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<v Speaker 4>roughian tank on it, and what the problem is there, Dean.

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<v Speaker 4>When the door opens, it swings inward towards.

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<v Speaker 6>The toilet and the fourteen inch rough toilet excuse me,

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<v Speaker 6>I did replace years ago, they still made the old

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<v Speaker 6>fashioned fourteenage Ruffians with the bulls and it just barely

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<v Speaker 6>clears the front of the bowl. So if I again,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm on a slab floor I've had a I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 6>tell me to jackamber the floor, readrout it, or even

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<v Speaker 6>try to upgrade.

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<v Speaker 3>The A B S plange on it with a with

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<v Speaker 3>an offset.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's not even going to do it. And the

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<v Speaker 6>problem is too, I've got.

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<v Speaker 5>A really high end hardwood wood flooring in the bathroom

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<v Speaker 5>that I don't want to touch. My question was what

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<v Speaker 5>a barn door provide in a traffic AIA in this

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<v Speaker 5>hallway enough enough privacy to remove the existing door, the

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<v Speaker 5>standard type of door that it has, and use the

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<v Speaker 5>barn door to to gain the privacy that I need.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good thinking, good thinking. Uh So here's the honest answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Visual privacy, absolutely no problem.

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<v Speaker 2>The only uh, the only leakiness with a barn style

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<v Speaker 2>door is going to be sound transmission. Now, a good

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<v Speaker 2>solid core barn door is going to you know, reduce

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<v Speaker 2>that pretty significantly. In fact, if you've lived in a

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<v Speaker 2>house with hollow core interior doors, you may not notice

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<v Speaker 2>any difference whatsoever if you transition to a solid core

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<v Speaker 2>barn door. But you know, because the door is not

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<v Speaker 2>making positive contact with the jam, because it's just essentially

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<v Speaker 2>sliding in front of the wall space itself, there is

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<v Speaker 2>an air gap. And because there's an air gap, the

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<v Speaker 2>question of privacy in terms of sound transmission, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>only issue that you're going to be experiencing. Now we've

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<v Speaker 2>reduced that somewhat. We've reduced that somewhat by making sure

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<v Speaker 2>that the new door, the barn door, is a bit

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<v Speaker 2>oversized and so that it is significantly wider than the

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<v Speaker 2>jam and a little bit taller than the jam as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a result of that that helps it helps

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the further that the door is overlapped

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<v Speaker 2>on the existing jam, it possible helps with sound transmission.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not as if there's you know, there's the

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<v Speaker 2>sound as if there's no door there whatsoever. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>saying that, you know, in a in a bathroom area,

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<v Speaker 2>if I put a solid core traditional door, that's making

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<v Speaker 2>direct contact with the door stop on three sides and

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<v Speaker 2>only has that little gap on the bottom. Then that

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<v Speaker 2>sound isolation because sound is you know, sound finds air,

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<v Speaker 2>and if air, if air is allowed to flow between

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<v Speaker 2>one space and another, it's an excellent medium for sound

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<v Speaker 2>to travel. So a standard door sitting up against door

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<v Speaker 2>stops does a considerably better job shutting down sound then

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<v Speaker 2>it does anything else. As far as the sliding door,

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<v Speaker 2>a barn door is concerned, or a pocket door, there's

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<v Speaker 2>lockable sliding door barn door hardware out there, some really

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful barn door at hard So it's not that that

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<v Speaker 2>the door couldn't be secured, and it's not that the

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<v Speaker 2>door would would encourage you know, visible privacy disruptions. All

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<v Speaker 2>of that would be handled. It's just a question when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to a powder room of sound. If down

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<v Speaker 2>a hallway far enough away from everybody else, then probably

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<v Speaker 2>not a big concern. And it sounds like it would

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<v Speaker 2>be the least expensive. Have you having run through the

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<v Speaker 2>gambit of of ideas already that I would have thrown

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<v Speaker 2>out to you, and I understand you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>disrupt that hardwood floor, uh, And yeah, that would be

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<v Speaker 2>the case. Now, if you decide to disrupt the hardwood floor,

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<v Speaker 2>then then I want you to be aware of one

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<v Speaker 2>more option that you've got for a bathroom like that,

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<v Speaker 2>not just moving the flange back. You know a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of inches for a standard twelve inch offset for the

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<v Speaker 2>toilet for all the new modern toilets, but you could

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<v Speaker 2>actually decide to move the drain completely into the wall

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<v Speaker 2>and put a wall mount toilet in there, which gives

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<v Speaker 2>you the maximum clearance in a small bathroom because the

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<v Speaker 2>wall mount toilet incorporates a frame that puts the tank

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<v Speaker 2>into the wall, and literally only the bowl will be

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<v Speaker 2>sticking out into the room, So you're eliminating the tank

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<v Speaker 2>presence offset from the wall altogether. And so instead of

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<v Speaker 2>twelve inches offset, it's zero inches offset from bowl to wall,

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<v Speaker 2>and you would have the most room. But I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. You don't want to disrupt the wood floor.

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<v Speaker 2>So a sliding door or a pocket door there would

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<v Speaker 2>be your best shot. And I would say between a

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<v Speaker 2>sliding in a pocket door, the barn door is probably

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<v Speaker 2>the better idea, just because a pocket door, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like it's making solid contact the pocket itself,

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<v Speaker 2>the pocket becomes a sound transmissionary.

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<v Speaker 6>I get youri Well, the door where the pocket door

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<v Speaker 6>would slide into it's a near it's about twenty six inches,

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<v Speaker 6>and there's another door, a bedroom door that's next to that,

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<v Speaker 6>and there's a light switch in that wall where the

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<v Speaker 6>pocket door would slide right, have electrical work so that

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<v Speaker 6>there was a slideable work. I've even talked thought about

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<v Speaker 6>a door Harmonica type or Accordian door. It's a little

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<v Speaker 6>on the cheap side, but that was another alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would do the sliding door if I had

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<v Speaker 2>to choose between all of that, because it's classy. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to look like a barn either. There is

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<v Speaker 2>zero hardware visible sliding doors now that can look very

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<v Speaker 2>contemporary as well. Look those up as well, Michael. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to run to a break. Thanks for your question.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that helps. I would do the sliding door

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<v Speaker 2>if we're going to that wood floor. Otherwise you're gon

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<v Speaker 2>have to commit to moving the flange in the concrete

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<v Speaker 2>for the toilet. All right, y'all, when we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>time to go back to the phones. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to Chris. Hey, Chris, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Dean, thank you for taking the call. Hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a question about some blown in insulation.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four hundred square foot three bedroom ranch style house L shaped,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has a patio on the front about twelve

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<v Speaker 1>feet deep, all stucco. It's built into the house. Insulation

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<v Speaker 1>in the house is only covering the living space. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not covering the patio in the front or the patio

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<v Speaker 1>in the back. It's just the sudden laughing getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to do blown in insulation.

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<v Speaker 8>Should I have that section done.

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<v Speaker 1>Or not done? And I'm getting conflicting answers from contractors.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the what are the I'm curious what the contractors

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<v Speaker 2>are saying.

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<v Speaker 1>One saying no, that it's not a living space, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to be insulated. The other saying, yes, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it because the heat will radiate up through the

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<v Speaker 1>patio and then into the attic space above the living space.

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<v Speaker 1>And the patios are kind of large. They're twelve feet

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<v Speaker 1>deep on the L shaped one. It's fifty feet run

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<v Speaker 1>to one way and forty five foot run on the other,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve feet and fifteen feet in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, all right, So here's my here's my

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<v Speaker 2>take on that they're both kind of right. Well, they're

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<v Speaker 2>both right in their own way. It's absolutely true. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to do it because it is exteriors. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to do it. It's not a requirement.

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<v Speaker 2>It's outside the house, right, as long as you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a barrier, and you should have a barrier up in

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<v Speaker 2>the attic in between the space. Now, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all there is not, okay, So then I would absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>without question do it. Yeah, for two reasons. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>an exterior space is only defined by a true wall break, like,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, in your garage. If you look in the

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<v Speaker 2>attic about the garage, you'll find that there's a wall,

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<v Speaker 2>continuous wall up in between the garage and the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the attic space. That's because the garage is quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote exterior. But if for some reason this was missed,

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<v Speaker 2>then you absolutely should insulate the whole space. And I

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<v Speaker 2>would probably do it anyway, because blown in insulation is

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<v Speaker 2>not expensive. Number one, all number two, I'm not so

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<v Speaker 2>worried about heat invading up from that space, although if

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<v Speaker 2>there's no wall, I am concerned about that now. But

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<v Speaker 2>even if there was a wall, I think I would

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<v Speaker 2>do it because it's gonna make the patio experience that

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<v Speaker 2>much more comfortable because that insulation is going to help

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<v Speaker 2>keep heat from radiating down into the patio as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you decide to do any heating outside on

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<v Speaker 2>the patio, it's actually actually going to hold that heat

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<v Speaker 2>in place better on those cold days as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think there's any downside to doing the

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<v Speaker 2>blown in everywhere perfect perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, there are recessed can lights for lack of better term,

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<v Speaker 1>they're rectangular. Should those be covered before the insulation is

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<v Speaker 1>blown in? Or are they okay just to cover with

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if they are, if they're newer recess can lights

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<v Speaker 2>that are all low voltage and icy rated That IC

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<v Speaker 2>means insulated and contact rated, Okay, Yeah, if they're old school,

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<v Speaker 2>you can buy covers for them all right. You can

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<v Speaker 2>look online. Sometimes you can find them at the big

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<v Speaker 2>box stores, sometimes not. But there are covers from the

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<v Speaker 2>attic side. You just cover over the light and then

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<v Speaker 2>that way you can blow in around it. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to make a direct contact with a recess canlight

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<v Speaker 2>that is not ic or insulation contact rated because it's

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<v Speaker 1>Understood, and that was my question to Kay.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll cover it and we'll get it done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the cost difference is nothing that I think the benefits

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<v Speaker 2>I agree one hundred percent. Chris, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>confirming my thoughts. I appreciate it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, buddy, good luck on that. Thanks for the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Always great. This is why we take questions because who

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<v Speaker 2>knows where they come from, and they just end up

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<v Speaker 2>helping everybody understand their home a little bit better, and

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<v Speaker 2>we will continue to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>You are Home with Dean Sharp the house Whisper I

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<v Speaker 2>help you feel that way. Hope you feel home every

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<v Speaker 2>time you tune in to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we spend our time talking about your home,

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<v Speaker 2>every aspect of your home from design to construction, to

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<v Speaker 2>DIY home improvement fix and toilets having grand architectural designs

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<v Speaker 2>and everything in between, inside outside the whole mgilla? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that a thing? Sam? Can we find out what the

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<v Speaker 2>word mcgilla means and where it comes from? I find

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<v Speaker 2>it might be mgilla gorilla? Is it? Can we find out?

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<v Speaker 2>Because such I grew up saying it because my parents

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<v Speaker 2>me because I'm a word nerd. So we got to

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<v Speaker 2>find that out. Anyway, the hole mgilla, everything regarding your home.

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<v Speaker 2>And as always, we're taking calls here on a Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>We still have room on the call board for you.

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<v Speaker 2>The number to reach me eight three three two. Ask

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<v Speaker 2>Dean eight three three the numeral two. Ask Dean eight

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<v Speaker 2>three three two. Ask Dean. I found the definition of

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<v Speaker 2>miguilli for you. Yeah, what is it? It's something large

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<v Speaker 2>and or elaborate. Okay, there it is, So the whole

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<v Speaker 2>large elaborate thing gorilla exactly. Yeah. Right, that's why they

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<v Speaker 2>named him that, right, because he was large and elaborate

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<v Speaker 2>or he was large. He wasn't very elaborate, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was large. Oh, there was no grape Ape. That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. There is a whole younger generation listening

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<v Speaker 2>older folks like us here, as we talked about at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the show, to remember Gray Ape. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm gonna shut up and go to the phones. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk to Fred. Hey, Fred, welcome home, Jean. How

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<v Speaker 2>you doing good? Good, good, my friend. How can I

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>I have this HVAC unit in my single live and

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<v Speaker 8>I come to find out that all my free on

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<v Speaker 8>I guess the evaporator.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wherever.

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<v Speaker 8>Anyway, I don't want to pay fifteen thousand dollars for

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<v Speaker 8>I only have a thousand square feet yep, and I

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<v Speaker 8>think that would be perfect for me.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, I would say, probably in your situation,

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<v Speaker 2>thousand square foot single wide mobile home. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>a split unit you'd want to get more than you'd

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<v Speaker 2>want to get a unit that has more than one cassette, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because even a thousand square feet you got different rooms,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got it, you know, probably two cassettes, maybe three,

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<v Speaker 2>but two cassettes so that you get even coverage. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, when we talk about a mini split

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<v Speaker 2>air conditioning, for everybody who's curious about that, they are

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<v Speaker 2>much much smaller than standard air conditioning, super quiet, less expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>no duct work involved. What you have is on the

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<v Speaker 2>outside you have the essentially a traditional compressor and condenser outside,

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<v Speaker 2>but much smaller, much quieter, and on the inside, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of ducting, you've got these what are called cassettes. Cassettes

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<v Speaker 2>can be mounted the typical split system cassette can be

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<v Speaker 2>mounted up high on a wall. But now, Fred, there

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<v Speaker 2>are also some really nice cassette units that get mounted

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<v Speaker 2>thing on the wall. And a split systems, many split

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<v Speaker 2>systems can range from a single condenser and one cassette

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<v Speaker 2>up to a single condenser and four cassettes inside a home.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be overkill in your situation. But I would

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<v Speaker 2>look at you know, one, maybe two cassettes at the most,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would be do a really good job and

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<v Speaker 2>also in addition to cooling, they would also you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be full functional in terms of heating if you got

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<v Speaker 2>the heat pump unit. A heat pump unit is simply

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more advanced system that reverses the flow

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<v Speaker 2>of the air conditioner and actually provides heat when you

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<v Speaker 2>need it as opposed to cooling.

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<v Speaker 8>Where would you suggest I put these cassettes at in

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<v Speaker 8>the in the master and the living room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that probably is the right way to go. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you basically you've got your open air area, which

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<v Speaker 2>is kitchen, dining and living room area. I'd put that

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<v Speaker 2>cassette kind of centrally located there for maximum comfort, and

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<v Speaker 2>then probably one back in the primary bedroom. So but

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<v Speaker 2>you've got your you know, a two sown system. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>you could turn one off when you're not using the

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<v Speaker 2>the dining area and vice versa at night, and you'd have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you'd have a very very comfortable space, and

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<v Speaker 2>also you'd be saving energy as well, because you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>when you only need it in one zone or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's how I would go. Fred. We're up

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<v Speaker 2>against a break. Fred. Thanks for your question, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck on that, and I think you're headed in

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<v Speaker 2>the right direction. All right, more of your calls when

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<v Speaker 2>we return your home with Dean Sharp the house Whisper Day,

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<v Speaker 2>Dean Sharp, the House Whipper, Welcome home. Thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 2>us this morning, this now drizzly officially drizzly Saturday spring

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<v Speaker 2>morning here in southern California. I hope the weather is

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<v Speaker 2>treating you right wherever you may be. There's some storms

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<v Speaker 2>blowing through the Midwest right now too, so I guess

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<v Speaker 2>we'll take the drizzle. We'll take the cloudy drizzle. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a weird spring. It's been a real spring this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean here we are right in is a technical

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<v Speaker 2>the way, listener Sherry wrote me a note here and said,

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<v Speaker 2>quick and dirty, Dean. Mcgilla is a Hebrew word. It

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<v Speaker 2>know from the Torah. The mcgilla esther and it was

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<v Speaker 2>read on purim and it's long and it's detailed, and

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<v Speaker 2>through the whole mgilla and there it is. So thank

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<v Speaker 2>you Jerry for that. I appreciate that. I like learning things.

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<v Speaker 2>I like knowing's stuff. All right, we're taking calls this morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Dean, good morning, and thank you for your

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<v Speaker 7>very helpful show. Appreciate it. I have a tile roof

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<v Speaker 7>home twenty six years old. The garage area there is

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<v Speaker 7>a dip in the tiles. There are a few homes

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<v Speaker 7>in my area with the same situation. Also know of

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<v Speaker 7>one friend in Huntington Beach that has an issue. Is

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<v Speaker 7>this common?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 7>What kind of a problem? And what do I do

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<v Speaker 7>to repair it? If anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Got it? So visibly from outside you look, You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>why is there? It's not flat? It kind of dips in, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>do you happen to know what the structure up inside

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<v Speaker 2>your garage? Roof looks like is it.

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<v Speaker 7>Because it is enclosed? Cannot see the roof the attic area.

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<v Speaker 8>Is enclosed, okay, And there's.

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<v Speaker 7>No evidence of leaks or right anything.

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<v Speaker 2>There is one of two culprits involved here, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>And the good news is it's probably fixable, okay. And no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably not a structural failing, although it is an

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<v Speaker 2>esthetic structural failing. And what I mean by that a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty year old home, my guess, is my guess, a

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<v Speaker 2>home built around two thousand that you probably have what

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<v Speaker 2>we call a trust system in your garage probably so

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<v Speaker 2>those are made out of two by fours and are

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<v Speaker 2>they are set up in a kind of a a

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<v Speaker 2>braced system. That's what a trust is. It comes pre braced.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a way of using smaller amounts of lumber of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, smaller types of lumber like two by fours

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<v Speaker 2>for doing heavy lifting work, like you know, an entire roofline.

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<v Speaker 2>Trusses are typically set at twenty four inches on center

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<v Speaker 2>two feet on center, and so that leaves about two

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<v Speaker 2>feet of plywood spanning that area. Normally that's not an issue,

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<v Speaker 2>but sometimes especially we've noticed when also spect on top

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<v Speaker 2>of that system, is a you know, concrete tile roof.

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<v Speaker 2>There can be areas where the ply wood starts to

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<v Speaker 2>sag a little bit, and as a result, out on

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<v Speaker 2>the roof you see that dip in it. So typically

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. Either one a trust has failed. That's unlikely.

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<v Speaker 2>It's possible, but it's unlikely. Typically because they're set at

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four inches apart, it probably wasn't the best idea

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<v Speaker 2>to have it specked with a concrete tile, but nonetheless

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<v Speaker 2>it was and it's holding up everywhere else. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a really good chance that a builder, a carpenter, a

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<v Speaker 2>general contractor, probably not a roofer, okay, because the roofer

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<v Speaker 2>is concerned with what's going on on the outside of

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<v Speaker 2>that roof system. But from the inside area, a contractor

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<v Speaker 2>can probably get in there, find the sagging plywood and

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<v Speaker 2>insert some traditional blocking and or maybe just even a

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<v Speaker 2>traditional roof rafter in that gap and as a result

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<v Speaker 2>sort of push out the sagging plywood and even up

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<v Speaker 2>that dip. Now, if the dip has been there for

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<v Speaker 2>a long long time, the plywood might fight them in

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do it, but that's how we would want

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<v Speaker 2>to approach it on day one because that way, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not messing up the roofing material. You're not taking anything

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<v Speaker 2>off on the outside. You're just literally kind of pushing

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<v Speaker 2>the dent out from the backside inside the attic area.

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<v Speaker 2>It's either that or you know, the roof is a

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<v Speaker 2>conventional roof, meaning that it's used with conventional rafters, and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the rafters has decided to sag. I doubt

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<v Speaker 2>it's cracked or anything like that, but it has sagged.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been put in upside down from the

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<v Speaker 2>builder when they originally did it. And if those of

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<v Speaker 2>you were wondering, like upside down, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Every piece of natural wood, like a two by eight okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that is typically used for roof rafters has a natural

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<v Speaker 2>crown in it. In other words, it's bending slightly in

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<v Speaker 2>one direction or the other. And one of the jobs

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<v Speaker 2>of a framer is before we put those rafters up

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<v Speaker 2>in your roof, we eyeball down the side of those

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<v Speaker 2>roof rafters, those two by eight or two x tens

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever they are, and we find the side that

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<v Speaker 2>is bending up and we mark it. We call that

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<v Speaker 2>the crown, and we always make sure that we place

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<v Speaker 2>that crown up so that if anything, it's humped up

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit when we first install it, and over

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<v Speaker 2>the years it may settle down to straight. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you put it in crown down, it's already starting in

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite direction, and then over the years it might

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<v Speaker 2>sag even a little bit more. Again, not a structural concern,

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<v Speaker 2>but esthetically it makes a warp or a wobble or

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<v Speaker 2>a dip in the roof. My guess is that you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a trust system. But I just wanted to cover

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing, Joan, and let you know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to get a general contractor or a carpenter framing

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<v Speaker 2>carpenter out there, take a look up in the attic

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<v Speaker 2>and see what actually is the cause of it. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, chances are, you know, ninety percent good that

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<v Speaker 2>something could be done from the underneath attic side to

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<v Speaker 2>fix that sag. But either way, just to be safe,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to make sure that there isn't a structural problem.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've seen it in other homes in your area,

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<v Speaker 2>and that clues off that the fact that this is

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<v Speaker 2>just one of those things. Probably they should not expect

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<v Speaker 2>such a heavy roof on top of that spanning plywood

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<v Speaker 2>with the plywood being you know, having to stretch a

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<v Speaker 2>whole two feet in between roof trusses. But it's not

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<v Speaker 2>really a structural problem per se. It just creates an

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<v Speaker 2>aesthetic thing that nobody likes.

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<v Speaker 7>Would it be an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>For a sale, for the sale of a house, I

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<v Speaker 2>would definitely get it addressed. I would get it address.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it an issue for the sale of a

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<v Speaker 2>house only if you reach up there and you look

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<v Speaker 2>up there and you find that something is cracked or failing.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's just a sag, then technically no, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>an issue for the sale of house. It's an aesthetic concern,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not a structural issue that stands in the

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<v Speaker 2>way or that would require repair before you sell.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, thank you so much for all the information, Joan.

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<v Speaker 2>You are so welcome. You are so welcome, and good

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<v Speaker 2>luck on that. But yeah, get a contractor to look

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<v Speaker 2>up inside there and see what's going on. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a structural problem, but it was in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>the way the tract was set up. It's probably a

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<v Speaker 2>goof to put that heavy of a roof on a

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<v Speaker 2>trust system in that situation. All right, everybody, that's all

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<v Speaker 2>I got for today. That's all the time we have.

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