Speaker 1: Meaning a live man like this man letting butterfly, flapping
his wing big down in force.
Speaker 2: Man, it gonna cause the tree fold, letting five thousand
miles away. Man, nobody's seen, nobody. You don't need no man,
you don't like you follow another story and you got
back to that. Man go black and dag on the panel. Man,
No man, I know.
Speaker 1: And a risker. Welcome to the Jay Burdon Show.
Speaker 2: How you doing, man, doing great? Doing especially great today
with the news. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See look, Uh, my inability to schedule a podcast is
a is a blessing and a curse. Recurse is that
I don't get nearly as much done as I should.
The blessing is that sometime I delay and then a
story has a major development. And that's really what I
play end all a lot. Of course it's not my
own inability to schedule. So obviously Tim Walls has uh
seemingly retired from politics, uh as result of a massive
welfare fraud scandal. I can guess that most people you
know know what's going on. But if you could, Andrew,
I guess, one, explain your relation to this, uh, you
know why you're the person to bring on And two well, dude,
what happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm I'm the mastermind behind all of the
Somali welfare fraud.
Speaker 1: Uh Andrew Esker head of it was a photo with
you one finger up in an Aka.
Speaker 2: No No. I was born and raised in Minnesota and
you know, recently left there because it is America's Ukraine.
And just I mean, like even like there was a
like since the story kind of you know, got big.
It's the thing that I didn't even know, even though
I kind of knew it is like there are thousands
of NGOs operating in Minnesota, and like there are more.
There are four times as many NGOs operating in the
state of Minnesota as there are restaurants, right, fast food
you know chains, you know, regular mom and pop joints,
Like total restaurants in the state of Minnesota. There's four
NGOs for every every McDonald's and Subway and Burger King
and you know mom and pop diner and everything else.
It's insane the number, the amount of like just dark
money that flows into that state to do this kind
of stuff. And so yeah, I got out of there.
I left after. Yeah, my family's from there. We've been
from there, you know since really since the beginning of
the state, and it it became so bleak, I mean,
especially you know in the last the last eight years
under Tim Walls. I mean it is it is hard
to quantify like exactly how bad it has gotten there.
Like it was it was always this you know, kind
of high tax, high welfare state, which you know, that's
that's not great, it's not ideal. It's not how I
would want my state to be. But like you could
survive in a situation like that, like much like people
in you know, Vermont and Maine in New Hampshire do right,
But as soon as you import a few hundred thousand
people from the third world, like this is this is
what happens, right, They they scam everything like that. You
don't have you don't have people that feel this like
sense of shame if they're you know, using public money
or anything like that. You have people that see just
a money lying on the ground for them to take, right,
that's how they view it. And and they have to
the tune of ten or twenty billion dollars and and
so it it and it in along with all of that,
I mean, besides all of the fraud, like like Walls
took over the state and has made it like as
left wing as Portland or Seattle or California or anywhere else.
And the laws that they've passed, like the big one
that that made me realize, like, we can't, we just
can't even stay there. I've talked about it on your show,
I think before is just the transgender bills, where they
can they can just take your kids away from you
and transition them. I was like, well, I can't. I
can't have a family in a place like this, right,
And so how are they able to do that? How
are they able to take over the state. It's it's
a massive amount of fraud. Like it isn't even just
the fraud, like the financial aspect of it, but also
like they've laundered this money to the Democratic Party. I mean,
I think everybody's probably seen all of the stories about
how like random people will have you know, twenty or
thirty dollars donations to Act Blue that they had no
idea were made in their name. And this has happened
like millions of times. Right, So how does how does
like Kamala get this massive war chest of donations. It's
it's money from the public that then goes to Somali's
or whoever else doing fraud, and then they kick it
back to the Democratic Party for protection and they do
it through that means. And so they do that. Plus
like the laws in terms of voting are insane there,
Like I would tell people that, Like when I went
to vote in Minnesota, I would just show up at
the precinct and just like say, my name right, I'm
just like, yep, Andrewisker are here to vote. And they
go through the thing, okay, eyes all right, yep, sign
here and and then hand me a ballot and uh,
and I'm I'm like, I mean, I had a few
buddies that lived in my, uh my precinct, and I
was like I should just like vote for them. I
should just come back through the line and be like, Okay, uh,
my name is John Smith, I'm here to vote. I
live on this street and uh and I could have right,
I mean, I wouldn't do that, because like, if anyone's
gonna go to jail for for like voter fraud, it
would be me, right, it wouldn't be it wouldn't be
uh Abdi Abdullah or something. It would be would be
me going to prison. But like, uh, you could do that.
There's no I mean no foot, I d nothing. And
then so even just to get registered to be able
to vote, uh, to be able to walk up to
the to the little old lady sitting at the table
and giving him your name and your address if to
ask for it, and signing a piece of paper to
get a ballot. Right to register, all you have to
have is a previously registered voter. And they could just
vouch for eight people. So I just take I could
just go down to home depot and find some illegals
and say, hey, guys, you want to come vote. I'll
give you twenty bucks if you go. If you go vote,
I could register them that day. I can vouch for
them and say, yep, he lives here, he lives here,
he lives here, and boom, you've got eight voters. And
then the next election they can do the same thing. Right,
they can vouch for eight people. So like the state
is built for election fraud, and like that system, the
mechanism for election fraud that they've had there has been
built over you know, a couple decades. I'm old enough
droves in college when the Al Franken Norm Coleman election happened,
and that one was really really tight. Right at the end,
they were you know, doing a recount or whatever, and
then all of a sudden they found just enough ballots
for al Franken in the trunk of a car like
a day or two later, like weird, crazy, and they're
all for al Franken. Wow, wild Uh And then he
he gets in the Senate and he of course famously
that margin by one was enough to pass Obamacare. So
you can thank the electoral fraud systems in the state
of Minnesota from twenty years ago for why, you know,
your insurance premium costs more than your mortgage. So like that's, uh,
that's that's my state, man, That's that's where I came from.
That's and like Tim Walls was my congressman for for
many many years, and I had the displeasure of interacting
with him. So I've like been very familiar with with
all of this stuff. And honestly, like the you know,
I don't I don't tend to be too pessimistic or
blackpilled about stuff, but uh, Minnesota. The problem with Minnesota
isn't even like like the Democrats or the Libs or
like the you know, insane leftoid freaks that operate there,
or even the NGOs or whatever, or even even the Somalis.
The problem with Minnesota is the Minnesota GOP right by far.
And I always tell people this because everyone thinks that
like their state GOP is like the most full, like
like the worst. They're just losers and cucks and and
all of this. Like, man, you guys have no idea,
You have no idea how bad Minnesota is. The Minnesota
GOP is like it's designed to prevent anyone from like
taking the bowl by the horns and doing anything like
it is. It is the pre you know, twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen. GOP in like a microcosm that they they
are there to lose, right, that is the point they
And if any figure you know becomes outspoken and really
fights tim Walls and is kind of a firebrand, like
like that guy, you know, they will primary him like
the leadership of the state. You people get rid of him,
because right, the whole thing is a scam because you
got to you gotta work with the Democrats so that
your district can get grants and and and state money
for roads and highways and things like that. And so
if you know, if we actually start fighting them, we're
not going to get any of the gibbs. And so
can you imagine going back to your to your rotary club,
or going back and playing at the country club and
talking to all the all the people with money in
your town and explaining to them why you lost out
on millions of highway funding? Like do you really want
to do that? Man? Uh? So, just just take it easy,
don't you know? I don't need to fight. And like
they had, they had a massive opportunity after twenty twenty
to fix a lot of the problems where the state
of Minnesota is like many other states. Uh, you have
a constitutional amendment that requires a balanced budget, so every
two years they have to pass a budget that will
will not you know, will not go over the amount
of revenue they're taking it. And so that provides a
lot of leverage for a minority party if they control
one of the houses in the legislature to basically say like,
we're not going to vote to pass a budget and
the government's gonna shut down and it's gonna be a big,
huge disaster for you if you don't give us the
concessions that we want. So they actually took advantage of
this finally, like for the very first time this year
where they were able to get the extreme radical left
Minnesota legislature to concede giving healthcare to illegals, right, giving
free health care to live, like, finally we're gonna stop,
you know, paying out like billions of dollars to give
free health care to illegal immigrants. And that's the famous
vote where you know that happens. And then four days later,
the former House speaker was randomly shot dead by a wacko,
a lone wacko, which we can maybe get into a
little bit later since Trump retweeted or retruthed or whatever
conspiracy theory about that. But they finally were able to
do that this past year and get the tiniest of
concessions from the Democrats, from the DFL. And in twenty twenty,
they could have done the same thing. They could have said,
all right, we control the state Senate. Our caucus is
not going to pass a budget unless it includes voter
ID right. You have to have voter ID right, which
would deal a massive blow to like everything, to everything
that they do, their entire fraud system that they've built,
and they wouldn't do it. I think with the concession
that got was like some minor tax decreases in some
minor cuts, right, that was it. That was all they did,
like and it, but it's it's part for the course,
Like that's the way they are, Like they they're utterly
unwilling to like do politics as politics right there. They
don't treat politics as like blood sport. They treat it
which okay, like thirty years ago, yeah, okay, you and
the DFL maybe yeah, you disagree on some fundamental things,
but at the end of the day, like you know,
we can all get along that kind of thing. They
treat it like it like it's nineteen eighty four and
now it's the politics obviously is like life and death. Right,
these are like existential existential enemies that we have and
so that they haven't learned how to win yet. And
and many, I mean it's not exclusive to Minnesota. Certainly
many Republicans. I mean you look at Indiana in the
Indiana State Senate and how you know, they are so
traitorous that they wouldn't even redistrict right, So it's it's
everywhere that Republicans are this way. But but because you
you have no like actual opposition. Uh, that's the biggest
reason why Minnesota is this way. Whether why it's able
to advance this far is is not because like, are
there insane libs like Tim Walls and Keith Ellison and
and Amy Klobashar and ilhan Omar in like every single
state in the country. Absolutely there are, But in other places,
right you at least have the groundwork for somebody to
to fight them and prevent them from from get you know,
gathering as much power as they have, and so like
you know, in a nutshell, like that's why Minnesota is
the way it is that there is no one there
at all willing to fight.
Speaker 1: Well and from the outside looking in, and you see
a very similar dynamic in Maine with a similar population
in a similar h out of guests. Will put it
that way, where you have a high trust system and
you have a system that you know, there was a
welfare system, and of course with any welfare there is
fraud always, But when you have a common cultural understanding, again,
there's always people who are going to take advantage of that,
but you can count on a certain amount of commonality. Right,
what is viewed as honorable and dishonorable behavior and when
you bring in a group who is hyper aware of
their specific identity. In the case of ill han Omar,
when she is speaking Somalia is the language they speak there.
When she is speaking in her native tongue, she is saying,
I am an advocate of you. This is why you
have sent me off to Congress. You know, my primary
issue is Ethiopians seizing territorial waters off the coast of Somalia,
which is I mean, I guess to her people that
makes a lot of sense, but you know, somewhat bizarre
as a representative of America. But regardless, right, you take
that and you combine very different cultural attitudes about welfare,
about what is acceptable behavior, It's like, well, what look, man,
what did you think was going to happen? And so
that sort of congenial view of politics, where we may
we may disagree about certain things, but ultimately we're all
we're all sitting down at the same table. We all
love this state. It's like, well, one that goes out
the window because those people do not, very clearly do
not have the same values that you do. They do
not have the same views of what is and is
not appropriate. And I think what's what's interesting to me,
and this was earlier last year, I guess. But a
relevant part is, uh, Jacob Fry very closely, very nearly
losing his race. Because you've seen this already in places
like England, that the Left brings in a large immigrant
population sort of as a as a voter bank, right
as a institute or institution of fraud, as basically as
a client group. But the problem is that client group
reaches a critical mass and then they no longer need that.
They can do their own or at least they can
go one step up. So for instance, well, we don't
need to be the clients of the mayor. We can
be the mayor. And look, I don't live in Minnesota.
I that is not that is this sort of cold
comfort to you know, the what Minnesota patriots there are.
But I think that's an interesting dynamic as well. So Andrew,
I'm gonna throw you this is not something I believe.
I know the answer you're going to give, but we'll
throw it out anyway. Well, aren't these Somalis very conservative
if you ask them about homosexuality, if you ask them
about any one of these social issues there to the
right of the Westboro Baptist church. Why do they why
do they vote for communists?
Speaker 2: Andrew?
Speaker 1: Because surely these are natural conservatives, right, and if we
could just tailor our messaging, we could we could we
the GOP could swing these these hardcore religious voters. So obviously,
you know, it's sort of a tongue in cheek question,
but I will throw it to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's tongue in cheek. But like that has
been a serious strategy. I mean, it's not serious obviously,
but like that has been a major undertaking that the
Minnesota GOP has attempted over like the last decade. Is
is like that same logic where it's like, well, they're Muslims,
so they're they're against gay marriage, and I think they're
against abortion and they like having families. Uh, so they
really should vote for us, so we should do all
sorts of your outreach to the Somalies. And of course
it's like like you know boomer universalist, egalitarian, you know,
post war consensus brain where like they they are constitutionally
incapable of recognizing that, Okay, every single human being on
the planet is actually not a carbon copy of you, uh,
that that you as an American and in particular, as
someone from the Upper Midwest are or unique. Uh that
that people all over the world are very very different. Right,
people from the Horn of Africa. Uh, they have a
completely different way of life and a completely different view
of both themselves and the rest of the world than
you have. And like one. I mean. One of the
reasons why they like don't think that is up until
like maybe the last year or two, it was all
but illegal to even begin considering whether that was true,
right you You had to you had to believe that.
You know, little Abdi Schamark muhammad Is uh Is is
just like you, thinks exactly the same way you do.
Would feel tremendous shame if he had to go on
welfare and would never ever, under any circumstances take advantage
of the system if he did. Right, Well, he's he's
not like you. They're not like They don't think like
you do. They think they think of themselves first and
foremost as Somali's and they have a tremendously high in
group preference, like most of the rest of the world
that's outside of the West does. Right, They don't think
in terms of individual They think in terms of of group,
of their group, of their group, identity, and and so
it's obvious like why it happens, right, because they just
see these these dopes who are handing out free money,
and why wouldn't why wouldn't you take it? Why wouldn't
you help all of all of the people, you know,
all of your friends and neighbors and relatives take advantage
of the system as much as possible, so they they're
all in it together. Like that's that's the thing with
these daycares is in order to like collect the money
for for all of this, you you have to have
like dozens or hundreds of people that you know sign
their kids in and sign up for the program, and
then you give them a little kickback, you know, maybe
you give them a couple hundred bucks a month out
of you know, the thousands that they would get for
each child. And and that's like that's how this works.
And you also have to know that like for us,
like thinking thinking of of groups as different and much
less like thinking like this is better than that is
totally utterly verboten, too modern, you know, post war Americans, right,
completely forbidden thought to ever have, and for them, completely
forbidden thing is doing anything that would harm your people, right,
so they know not a single one of the people
that are signing up this participating in this scam is
ever going to snitch on us ever. Right, That's that's
why it works. That's why, like why you don't see
you know Americans doing this, for one is like you
you assume like somebody is going to spill the beans, right,
like somebody's gonna knarck on you. And there they they know,
they are utterly assured that that's never ever, ever going
to happen. And so yeah, it's it's it's it's wild.
Like I mean, I've thought, I I you know, I
had a conversation today with a friend of mine, uh
just about you know, how we how we moved uh
to Tennessee, and uh, I'm not from here, right, I'm not. Uh.
It's a very very different place than I'm used to. Right.
Their way of life is very different. Uh. Even the
words that they use for things, it's different than the
ones I do. The way uh, just cultural attitudes, everything
very very different. And I was thinking, like, you know,
it might take me, you know, the rest of my
life living here to you know, adapt to the way
of life here, to to really begin to fit in
to assimilate to their way of life, and I might
never I might never actually you know, be one of them,
and maybe even my children won't. And my children's children
might not, right, they still might be like me of
someone from the Upper Midwest. And so you feel this
sort of alienness, this this that you're different, that that
you don't quite fit in. And and so it was
and in this conversation, it's like so bizarre because, uh,
everyone thinks that people from like Somalia or I can
just seamlessly assimilate into being Americans when like you move
from one from one region of the country to another
and you don't. But you're you're you know, born and raised,
multi generation uh American, and you don't fit in in
different parts of the country. Yet this there's this idea
that that people from the third world will just boom,
they're American. They have a piece of paper and and
now they are just like us. It's, uh, it's wild
to t even consider that, like the disparity, like it's
it's obviously not true. Right, you can't you can't expect them,
I mean, one, they have no incentive to to begin with. Right,
you look at the waves of European immigrants in the
late nineteenth and early twentieth century, and there was intense
pressure just from a from a societal standpoint for them
to stop speaking their native tongues and speak only English. Uh,
for them to adopt the cultural habits and mannerisms and
everything else of the people here. Uh. And and one
like their cultures were not so alien from our own
that there wasn't that that huge, huge, huge difference, right. Uh.
But even that, right, it took multiple generations for those
people to assimilate and to become Americans. And it's like,
I just don't I don't think it is even possible, right,
I don't think. I mean I think it could. You could.
They could be here five hundred years and they still
would be Somali's right, they still would not be Americans. Uh.
And so I think so many of the like the obvious, uh,
the obvious points of failure of the post war consensus
are just being laid bare now where we because of
the prosperity that we've enjoyed for the last sixty years,
you can kind of paper over them, you can kind
of pretend it's not real. And and now now it's like, Okay,
all this stuff is real and and so you and
you can see it like so like boomers are as
a generation pretty well off right. They have lots of
as a group, lots of investments, lots of property, lots
of lots of things that they enjoy. Their their standard
of living is is very very high. But for the
younger generation, for Zoomers and even even millennials, they've got nothing.
And uh that that is always the thing where it's
like people, you know, it was always it was always
the thing like, oh, when are the sheep gonna wake up? Right?
When are the sheep will get well? Well, nobody ever
like wakes up right? Uh, and certainly not if like
life is good and you can just be like catch
the game last night? Did you you know, did you
see that to see the end of the Steelers Ravens game?
Do you believe that they missed the kick? Right? Like
you could just focus on all the things that don't matter, right,
because you're living in Disney World. But when when life
is terrible, when life is is not good, when nothing
you do seems to work right, you're not able to
live the good life that your parents or your grandparents enjoyed,
then then you begin becoming open to a lot of
realities that everyone else just is incapable of seeing. And
so I think that's why this is like sort of
happening now. Where if this were ten years ago even
and there was this big, massive fraud by the Somalis,
the exact same things taking place, right I don't think
the reaction would have been the same that it is
right now. I think people would have been like, well,
you know, it's not all Somali's doing this, it's only
a small like some of the some of like the
lib cope that you see over it. Like that would
be said by conservative leaders right now is oh, it's
not awesome. We can't blame all the Somalis for, you know,
the things that have happened, like the one big like
Minnesota influence you know, Republican influencer guy. I think he's
paid by the Republican Party. I don't really know. This
Dustin Grage guy is kind of a big joke because
like a year or two ago, he was he was
actually like saying the same stuff you were, you know,
saying a tongue in cheek earlier, where it's like, well,
actually the Somalis are natural conservatives and that stuff.
Speaker 1: Like that, and now phrase I'm issuing a fought baw
like I am. Whoever types that coming to your house,
We're gonna fist fight in the parking lot like that.
That is I'm joking, of course, but genuinely like that
is one of the dumbest phrases and ideas. And to
your point, right, yeah, these sort of internal contradictions can
be sort of ameliorated by abundance, right, So it doesn't
it's not true, but yeah, there's nothing really causing me
pain here, so whatever. You know, It's like we all
have these situations in our social life where it's a
you know, something that obviously isn't true. These genes make
my butt look big whatever, where you're like, fine, sure, whatever,
but the answers, yeah, I guess, depending on you know
who you are and who's asking. But in all seriousness, right,
when that when it becomes painful, when all of a
sudden you're like, wait a minute, I need to earn
a buck forty a year to be middle class. I'm
not even close to middle class anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why am I?
Speaker 1: Why am I falling down the socioeconomic ladder? Why am
I downwardly mobile? And you look to your right and
you're like, wait a minute, these guys are getting lambeaus.
He's got a Rolls Royce as a guy who owns
a daycare, Like, wait a minute, So I'm getting screwed.
He's getting a ton of money. And if I have
an objection to that, it's white supremacy. And there are
two things from that, which is one, I guess white
supremacy doesn't sound so bad if you believe what Tim
Walls does. Or alternately, it's well, why would I sign
up for this? Like this is a bad deal. And
to your point about you know, the kind of death
knell of the post war consensus. The writing has been
on the wall for a while, but there have been
several parts about it, you know, And I don't want
to turn this into a discussion about foreign policy, but
to me, the other side of that, right, the rules
based international order, the idea that war is illegal. We
don't do this anymore. Well, one, we never stuck to it,
but at least there was a fiction Russia Ukraine kicks off.
We clearly we're not a fan of that. Nonetheless, it
is still happening, or alternately, now we're doing it ourselves.
So no one believes that fig leaf anymore. Right, that's clearly,
to pick a metaphor from a book you may have read,
the sacred tree has been chopped down, right, no one
believes in it anymore. And similarly, at home, this idea
of like magic dirt theory, and this idea that if
we bring the entire population of mogod Isshue to Minnesota,
we will have created I don't know how many people
live in mogod Isshue, but let's just say a million
new Midwesterners. Well, that's plainly not true. Now, that doesn't
necessarily change the political calculus of who is in charge.
But that narrative, right, that kind of central religious thrust
that has kind of animated the US Empire, both you know,
abroad and at home. I mean, that's dead man, that's
completely and totally dead. And weirdly enough, this this idea
of kind of you could say, like you know, human fungibility,
the idea that you can take someone from anywhere and
they are identical to someone from anywhere else. Right, humans
are just these kind of interchangeable widgets that can be
plugged in and out of different cultures. I think that
that idea was really only possible due to that question
being theoretical. Right when it's something I see on the
and you saw this with gay marriage, right, where this
is something when it's will and grace, even if it's
not true, it's easier to kind of delude yourself because oh,
it's on the TV, it's far away. But when it's
in your face, when you're like, wait a minute, this
isn't right. We're not the same thing here. Yeah, sure
your passport has the same stamp that mine does, but
we're clearly going about a different project. I mean, I
think that that is very difficult to patch over in
a time where there's not a lot of surplus to
go around. So I believe we mentioned this kid, Nick Shirley,
who exposed a lot of this. This scandal was going
on beforehand, but he in and showed up at the location.
Was like, wait a minute, this isn't a daycare. There
are six corporations registered to this abandoned building in the
middle of the hood. I don't think there are children here.
Several things there. One I sort of jokingly mentioned the
reaction from Tim Walls where he throws up his hands
and says it's white supremacy. But I don't know if
you caught this, and I don't remember who did it.
I believe he was a journalist or maybe a foreign
policy fella. I can't remember who. Basically, you know, quote
tweeted this and said, I can't wait until you know
that this sort of I think he used the term
vigilante journalism encounters the castle doctrine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wasn't he like a reporter for The Atlantic,
one of those.
Speaker 1: Outlets, one of those rags, right, several things there.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: I don't believe Minnesota has whichever law he was mentioning,
but that sort of.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have stand your ground laws. It's like one
of the few states that that doesn't in duty veteran
but duty to retreat in Minnesota just.
Speaker 1: Don't hurt me. But point is just wishing for this
man to be killed, saying we should like and we
saw as some of his footage he was being physically threatened.
And I'm curious, what do you make of that? Oh
you pointed this out, we should or someone should kill you.
It's obviously not a rhetorical position expressed by many people,
at least explicitly. You know, a few people are dumb
enough to put that in text, so to speak. Yeah,
but nonetheless, like that does seem to be the reaction
here is basically like, oh, we're going to either assassinate
your character by calling you a white supremacist or advocate
for community policing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean number for one, like they haven't
gotten any less violent after they killed Charlie Kirk. I
mean even like yesterday or last night, some apparent like
TF went to jd Vance's house in Ohio and tried
to break in and and kill him, and uh and
and so like, yeah, the the they are not They're
not putting the woke away. They're not putting the violence
away at all. So that's that's one of the things
I think that's on like the you know, the bottom end,
like they have this limitless reservoir of of losers to
go do violent stuff to people on the one end,
but then on the top end of it, right like
he's he's going to get sued for defamation by one
of these you know, Somali's And look, the State of
Minnesota is helping like helping make that case right now,
saying oh no, all of these all of these daycares
are totally legitimate. Like you saw the maybe you saw this.
There was like a Craigslist post in Minneapolis looking for
child actors to come when the investigators cut you know,
investigators tell them, yeah, we're gonna come on Monday, and
they're scrambling to find a bunch of like random children
to pay to sit in the daycare. Imagine answering that
ad and like sending your child there.
Speaker 1: But uh so, like Andrew, they're making a really funny
idea for a hidden camera and all you have to
do is put on one of those little propeller hats
and pretend to be four years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe maybe maybe I could do that. That might work.
Speaker 1: Look, if they can pretend to be autistic, you can
pretend to be four years old. This is a this
is a that's true to be logically consistent.
Speaker 2: Like I mean that is that is the funny thing.
Uh like bringing up the pretending to be autistic thing,
Like you remember when the one woman in Rochester, Yeah yeah, yeah,
like the controversy there, right, and they kept saying that
this is a five year old who's autistic. Well, that
five year old is like bigger than my ten year
old in the video he's eight. Yeah, and like who
was like, you know, uh, digging through a bag or whatever.
And and like the Rochester naacp uh launched their own
like GoFundMe for you know whatever Somali fila. Well one
like the guy taking the video was a registered sex
offender uh and who was at a park without any
children of his own, which is weird obviously. Uh. And
two like that kid uh you know that he claims
to be five years old and autistic Like that opened
up the Yeah, that opened up Pandora's box of Wait
a second, what's going on here? Like I have uh
an autistic son, and I knew I knew this scam
was going on like the whole time because like when uh,
when I first went to one of these places to
have him like formally diagnosed, were there like the waiting
room and half the people there were Somali. I'm not like,
you know, making that up. I'm not like exaggerating. Half
of the people in the waiting room are Smali families
with their kids. And I remember thinking, I'm like, uh,
that's weird because half of the population of Minnesota is
not Somali, But why why are there so maybe just
you know, lined up, they all had the day off
that day or something or whatever. You know, you kind
of put it out of your mind. But then I
would take my son to like other appointments like speech
therapy and things like that, and same situation in the
waiting room, Like it'd be me there and like one
other you know, uh, you know, white mom or dad
with their kid, and then the rest of the people
there would be Somali. And I'm like and after it
happened a few times, I was like, huh, seem to
be noticing a pattern here that all of the like
autism stuff, all of the resources for autism are are
like overwhelmingly going to Somali's. That's weird. So I mean
maybe they must be just like vaccinating the crap out
of these kids or or it's all fake, it's not
real and they found something to scam and it turns
out like yeah, obviously that's what they were doing.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: They would go to you know, doctor Shamark Muhammad, you know,
a psychologist, and he'd be like you'd look at their
kid for ten seconds, Yep, autism all right, Now, go
to Department of Human Services and like take all the money,
like and the resources there are extremely generous, like they
have they have a program called paid parenting, right, so yeah, yeah,
if you have an artistic child, you could sign up
for it and and get paid thirty dollars an hour
to watch your own kid. And so so wow, crazy
how many autistic children there are in Minnesota that are Somali's.
Like every kind of thing, uh that can be scammed,
they scam it. And and so yeah, like every child
in Minnesota, the Somali Is is on the autism spectrum. Apparently.
It's uh, it's yeah, it's it's a thing that's that's
gone on for for so long, and it's so obvious
and like every everybody knows it. And and like all
of these you know, care providers or whatever, they don't
care because the money is good to them, so they'll
they'll do all the therapy things and everything else, and
it is it is all so obviously fraudulent. But but yeah,
I think like the uh, yeah, the thing that that
you're you're getting at is that I mean I've seen
it from just like people back home that in the
past were you know, it would be like mortified to
be critical of the Somaldis. They they now are like, yeah,
they all got to go. They all need to go,
Every single last one of them needs to get out
of here. And and and it's like, well, what what
has changed? And I think a lot of it is
like it's regular people that are, you know, working forty
fifty sixty hours a week to just keep their heads
above water. And then they see these people driving around
in range rovers and BMW's and scamming, scamming them, and
they know that they're paying for it and that they're
working their butt off just to provide for their families.
And it's like, no, I don't all of them need
to go. I don't care what you call me. I
don't care if him Walls says it's white supremacy or whatever.
And even in that like weird press conference that he did,
it's like, well, there's way more fraud that white people do, right,
he like asserts this, and it's like, well, I mean,
we can get into per capita if you want. But
even setting that aside, like most of these programs, like
the daycare program itself, white people are not eligible for
it at all. It was for you know, minorities and
migrants right specifically, So like if I wanted to set
up one of these daycares, I would not have been
able to get any of any of the free moneies
from the federal government, from the state government that that
they get, right, So like this is simply not true.
And I remember thinking about that, Yeah, just that specific issue,
right that or all of the SBA loans that go
to that go to you know, the Patel cartel to
buy up all the all the motels around the country,
or you know, to buy all the gas stations and
convenience stores and liquor stores and things like that, and
thinking like it's it's crazy that, uh, I have worked
my entire life just to barely, you know, get by
that My parents did the same thing, that everybody I
know that I grew up with have done the same thing,
and people from the Third world can just come here
and get free stuff that we have to pay for.
It becomes like extremely infuriating right where It's like it's
it's one thing if right, economic times are rough everybody
and everybody's just trying to get by, you know that
that happens, right, That's that, that's life. It's it's like
totally another thing when these foreign people come here and
they're scamming the system that you're paying for. Right you
begin you begin thinking like, whoa, It's like the entire
system is set up for me to pay for them,
to extract every bit of wealth from our country from
you know, working in middle class white people to to
like one hundred million Third worlders in the country. And
you begin begin having those thoughts, and it's like wait, wait, wait,
those are forbidden thoughts. You're not allowed to think that, right,
You're not allowed to think think any of those things,
and and you just kind of have to either break
through it or not, right, either stay in the mental
prison or you're like, yeah, actually all of this stuff together,
Like the point that you bring up, it's like white,
why are Muslims and like transgenders and you know, radical
feminists and all of these disparate groups that seem to
have nothing in common, right, why are they all on
the same side. And it's like, well, what is the
one thing that they have in common. It's that you know,
they're not white, they're not Christian, and they're not male.
It's like they've identified an enemy, like white Christian American males,
and they're all joining together to fight that, right, it's
the uh, you know, Steve Sailor's coalition of the Fringes. Right,
they have they have one group, right, Americans who are
predominantly Christian and and particularly the man like that is
the enemy. That is the enemy. They they want to expropriate,
they want to destroy, and and like that light bulb
turns on and it's impossible to turn it off after that,
where it's like, oh, I see what's going on? Right
that Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense, Like why, yeah,
why would Muslims be on the side of gay people
and transgenders and things like that if they're so devoutly religious.
It's like, well, their group interests align with with that group, right,
that's why you know all all of politics actually is
that way. It isn't It isn't just a collection of
random individuals, and like these are forbidden things to say,
like especially among Christians, among evangelical Christians in America who
have imbibed this this sort of individualist of egalitarian view
for generations now, and like the the one verse that
they all know they know it even more than judge
not lest you be judged is is Galatians three twenty eight. Right,
is there is neither male nor female, you know, juwe
nor Greek slaver free right, all are one in Christ.
And so they take that verse and they apply that
to everything in life. Right, that there are no distinctions
between any groups, there's no distinctions between men and women,
which is not what the apostle was saying at all,
because then that becomes a proof text for transgenderism, right,
And it's that's not what's being said. It's that there's
there's no distinctions within within the kingdom of God, but
within the kingdoms of n there there are always are,
There are distinctions between men and women. There are distinctions
between right, this nation and that nation, this group in
that group. And and I mean, what is happening now
is all of you know, the Emperor has not been
wearing any clothes, and he's been towerking out in the
street for a long time, and everyone's pretending that, Nope,
this is totally normal. He's fully clothed and and operating
with full decorum. And you you simply can't avoid it
any longer. You you either see reality for it is,
or you continue descending into madness trying to cope your
way into intermitting in the good graces of the regime,
right that that ultimately was is is what's taking place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a there's a lot there. I mean,
I think that to your point about both either the
the fact that the incentive structure is set up to
create this exact situation. And so you have a group
of people who shore maybe conservative religiously, they may be
conservative on issues of sex and gender. But it's two things. One,
it is very difficult to get a man to notice
something that he is paid not to notice. And if
you are getting a Lamborghini out of this, that's a
hell of a bribe.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also there's a world of difference, as we've seen with
ilhan Omar, between being conservative of their culture and conservative
of your culture, completely unrelated concepts. And again, right, we
have to understand that this isn't just a direct bribe.
This isn't just the billions of dollars given out to this.
There's also that you don't have to live in Mokedishu anymore,
which is a pretty good pride, right, like comparatively a
failed state to you know, Minnesota, which is someone who
loaths going you know, north of the Mason Dixon line.
Not my favorite place in the world. But I would say.
Speaker 2: It was wonderful. It used to be great.
Speaker 1: Still better than mogod issue, but way better. Yeah, alternately again, right,
you're you're completely right to point out that sort of antipathy,
that right, that they are pulling in the same direction
because of who they dislike, who they hate. And I
think that that's another, like another big part of it.
And I think that this is one of the many
reasons that kind of normal, good conservatives truly do lack
a theory of mind for progressives in their client groups. Yeah,
because that that sort of antipathy is not mirror imaged.
You see some of it, but it is fundamentally. The
MAGA movement is the most liberal movement in America currently
on the board, Right, they are the ones who still
deep down actually believe the post war consensus, actually believe.
And this isn't to say that, you know, the progressives
calling everyone a Nazi, haven't I have those same kind
of that same theology, but they're not nearly as consistent
about it. Right, They're more Machiavellian, they're more Schmidian. Funnily enough,
right to you, the word that's been sort of tainted recently,
And I think that additionally, the left and the right
have a very different conception of conflict, where the right,
I think, views conflict as me versus you, and they
view it very much in sort of a rational material way,
where we're in conflict because you were preventing me from
doing this or you want this, and so I do,
and they sort of dismiss that sort of abject hatred.
So not only is that one difference, but another one
is that the left version of conflict, in my mind,
is tripartite. You have abuse or abused, which is the
sort of analysis you can get from Dave Ruben, a
conservative luminary. But there's a third role, and I think
this is the difference between the different types of sort
of progressive foot soldiers. You have victim, which is many
of these client groups substitute your favorite one in. But
also you have a third figure, you have an advocate.
And so I think for many people, especially as material
conditions decline, especially as the patronage network becomes more and
more shifted towards new arrivals, they are getting paid off
in kind of like social or emotional patronage. They're getting
paid off in as the Internet would have said fifteen
years ago, like feels overreals. You get to be not racist,
you get to be better than the judge the people
that you heat, And so I think that's the benefit.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: On one hand, they get to wield the consensus apparatus
to define who is virtuous and who is a sinner,
who is a heretic, who is a Nazi? And on
the other one, they can just pay you. And is
it always one or always the other? No, it's quite
often both. You know, these are not mutually exclusive categories.
But I think that conservatives do understand progressives better than
vice versa. In some ways, we live in a culture
saturated in progressive values. If you are in a progressive bubble,
you will almost never have to actually encounter a conservative
quote unquote person. The reverse is not true in all
but a few extreme examples. But I don't think they
have a theory of mind. I don't think they understand
the deep antipathy. And I think another part of this, Andrew.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think Jay's sorry to interrupt you,
but I think they do, like the conservative has some
semblance of a theory of mind of the lib where
at least in a in a surface level way right,
So like if you took you know, you you bring
a random chud and a libtard together, right, the Chud
will be able to before the libtard ever says what
he thinks about any Like you play you know, a
game like s Categories, except it's like political cultural stuff.
And you name a category, right, you name an issue, like,
the chud will be able to explain exactly what the
lib believes and why, like on every single issue, right,
one after the you go through the news, Right, you
open up ancient technology newspaper and you go through each story.
What do you think about that? I can tell you
what you think? But the inverse is not true of
the lib right, they will not be able to They'll
they'll in their minds, it's like a two thousand and
four Bush era conservative, that's how they think. Like they're
stuck in like the Daily Show in terms of their
theory of mind of the conservative. So they'll like throw
out these arguments and and there's like twenty years out
of date, right, they cannot begin to under They'll be like,
what you say, you're for family values, but Donald Trump,
you know, sleeps with porn stars. Right, how can you
vote for him, Like they'll make that argument and think
like that's a major own and and the chud will
be like, who cares, I don't care, Like he's he's
on my side, That's why I voted for him, Like
they have no so at least on like the surface level,
for the conservative, there is some theory of mind. But
on like the deeper level, like you're saying, the conservative,
the chud, the right winger generically is unless they're like
on the online right right, unless they're like a person
watching this show, they won't be able to explain exactly
why do the why does the lib think that? You
can explain what they think, but you can't explain why
they think that right, And it's like, yeah, deep down,
they hate you. That's what it is like. They hate you.
It isn't just like they have some dumb ideological view
that you think is idiotic. It's that they hate you
and they want you dead right at the very core.
And although some of that is beginning to change, I
think right with Charlie Kirk being murdered and seeing the
reaction to it, I think a lot of people were
finally like, finally, who would deny? Like and I can
tell you that like personal examples of friends who who
kind of you know, fit this bill that if I told,
like two years ago, if I said, hey, like most
libs they hate you and want you dead, like, they
would look at me like I'm insane, right, No, go,
they just they believe stupid things. Man. You can't say
that about them, no way. But after Charlie was murdered
and you see them celebrate it, I got messages and
calls from friends. We're like, dude, I think they all
hate us and want us dead. And I'm like, yeah, man,
you called me insane for saying that a year ago,
and the first time now you agree with me, you know,
uh so I think that is changing. But again, it's
only like the younger people, right, It's only people like
under forty that are getting that. Anyone who anyone who
kind of got theirs uh is, is going to be
willfully oblivious for the same reasons that you said, like
their their pay is dependent on them not getting it.
So any anyway, I totally interrupted you your train of
thought there, and I apologize.
Speaker 1: Sort of synthesize several points we've been kind of hovering around.
To me, I think the most interesting aspect of this
to look at is the kind of House conservatives, the
the good conservatives, right, French, Dray or a couple of others, Uh,
you know, the normal people I make fun of on
the internet. And uh, French wrote a really interesting article
called It's in the New York Times. You can find
it on my sub stack. I wrote a response to
it called you know what happens if you fail to
recognize America as in decline? And he's sort of seething
and maulding over the fact that like five years ago,
a bunch of like conservatives on parlor back when that
was an app we're making fun of him and that's,
you know, kind of embarrassing or whatever. But what's interesting
if we sort of dig into it, is that ultimately
there's sort of a creeping recognition and creeping fear from
those people that their God is dead right, that they're
the post war consensus is gone, that no one deep
down believes a lot of this anymore, and that people
are angry, and that the previous guardrails of like, oh,
you can't talk about that, you can't say that that's
not true conservatism, that's not American. But those are going away.
And of course i'm speaking, you know, euphemistically here, but
I think genuinely that's a large part of the hatred
that we're seeing. And I think this is why it
sort of came up really intensified after Obama term two,
because it was we did it, we did it, read it,
we got our Messiah, you know, MLK is returned, We're
going to get socialism. And it didn't happen. And not
only did it not happen, but since then there have
been and I'm not talking about in a sense of
political victories, because the left has been stacking those for
a long time, but the common consensus they enjoyed where
they were the default winners, where they had the default morality,
and so they could just sit there and accrue wins,
that is going away, right, That common moral consensus that
paradoxically they attacked for generations was also the same core
thing that enabled them to say, you're a you're a
white supremacist, go away. Oh you know, Abdul abdul here,
he's just as American as you are.
Speaker 2: Even more, is that, yeah?
Speaker 1: Exactly, because that again depended on a common consensus, a
common post war consensus that is truly dead and gone.
And so I think that a lot of the history
onics we see from the establishment liberal press and from
you know, nominal conservatives like French and others, is exactly
that is the fact that deep down they know and
they don't want to admit it, that their projects done,
that no one actually believes in it. And whether you
take that in sort of a third worldist way, that
we become like South Africa, where say what you will
about South Africa, it is fundamentally not a liberal state
at all. I mean, there are race communists and not
but neither one of those people really cares anything at
all for the kind of platitudes of you know, liberal modernity,
whether it goes in that direction or you know, authoritarianism
from either the right or the left, or explicitly fundamentally
I view that pluralist project, you know, that idea that
we can you know, we can all be unified by
these these common values. No one believes that anymore, except
for paradoxically, right, a certain number of like very genuine
conservatives again, as you've said, older predominantly, but at the
very least, and it's maybe some sort of cold comfort
their God is dead. So that's something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think it is. And I mean, yeah,
like all of this stuff, like I've had, I've had
so many people, you know, ask me like, oh, are
you do you want to move back to Minnesota now
that everything is everything is happening, And I'm like, like,
what exactly do you think is happening?
Speaker 1: Also, the first week of January is the wrong time
to ask you that. Yeah, right where I assume it's
like thirty degree where you are, you know, as opposed
to negative twenty.
Speaker 2: No, it's like sixty two degrees right now? Okay, yeah, yeah,
and so and there it's probably tim below. Uh so
there's like a seventy degree difference. But I mean not
only that, not only I mean, yeah, the weather is
nicer here, especially this time of year. But it's like
it almost forces me to kind of blackpill because it's like,
what do you think is gonna happen? Like even like
do you think, like you know, delta force is gonna
swoop in and and haul tim Walls away? I mean,
that would be awesome if that happened, obviously, but that's
not gonna happen. Man, Like it's easier, it's easier for
Donald Trump to deal with Nicholas Maduro than it is
for him to deal with Tim Walls, Right, That's that's
like like foreign policy is easy. Uh, there's hardly any
any encumbrances to you know, executive power there Buttically there's
like nothing that community you have, you have the same
DJ That's like trying that up until a year ago,
was trying to throw him in prison for the rest
of his life that he's now nominally in charge of.
Like you really think that he's gonna be able to
swoop in the FBI is going to cub take Tip
Walls away at headcuffs in the middle of the night, Like, No,
that's not gonna happen. Uh. These are this is a
long like if if America is going to be saved, Uh,
if that can is even possible, and I think it is. Uh,
but that is a long, long term project, right. I mean,
they they accruede power over eighty years, and they they
pulled out every stop to gain as much as they could,
right from top to bottom, right every little shred or
an ounce of power that they can take, I mean
down to you know, down to like how many studs
have to be in in your in your bedroom right,
like every little thing, it's them gaining all of that,
and they're not going to give it up without a fight, right,
They're not going to give it up after one presidential election.
And and so you have to have this really long
view that like, if America is going to be fixed,
if Minnesota is going to be fixed, that is going
to take the rest of our lives and beyond that.
Uh so, you know, I'm never going to like blackpill
about this and just be totally nihilistic and just like
all hope is lost, it's over. There's nothing we can do.
Donald Trump hasn't become the authoritarian dictator that I thought
he would, and so, uh, you know, the fever dreams
of the Libs about Trump turns out they're not true.
Therefore I'm just going to completely give up and check out.
And and it's done like that, I think is like
that the constant temptation of a lot of people, especially online,
is right. They build up this idea in their head
of like the actual power or that the president can wield,
and then he doesn't do what they thought in their heads,
and so he obviously is controlled by net Yahoo or something.
And then it's like or like politics is hard and
complicated and difficult, and there's very little that can actually
be done in any given moment. Right. You can get
wins here and there, but it takes decades. It takes
a lot of time and a lot of commitment by everyone.
And so I look at it like, Okay, maybe if
things improve, you know, overall in the nation over the
next twenty or thirty years, we get you know, remigration
during that period of tens of millions, Like I think,
like people are like, oh, yeah, one hundred million. He
needs to get rid of a hundred million people in
the four years of his presidency. Like Okay, that's not
gonna happen, right, But even if he gets rid of
like five to ten, right one, everyone will be like
that's not enough. I can't believe, you know, used to failure.
This is this is the worst. And it's like, well,
that's ten million more plus ten million on the other
side that would have come in if you hadn't have
been president, right, And and so like you can you
can take these marginal wins over time and continue building.
And and that's that's how I look at it with Minnesota,
where it's like, Okay, things are not going to change
with the Minnesota GOP until like the GOP nationally changes
and they will slowly make their way into learning you
can actually do politics and win. But that that could
take twenty years, right, And so I look at it
where I just have very very very very tempered expectations,
but but not in like this hopeless sense, right, Like
the expectations are really low, but within those low expectations
you can advance and win and and then move on
to the next thing and have low expectations there. Uh,
and and and so that's that's more or less how
I look at it. It's it's not it's not simply
enough because like, realistically, what's going to happen in Minnesota,
there will be you know, probably a few hundred Somalis
that will go to prison. Whatever ones they can you know,
denaturalize and deport that they will do that. So maybe
maybe overall, like ten thousand Somalis will go back and
there won't be any significant DFL figures that will be
charged and arrested because like I think a lot of
people think, like, uh, Tim Walls has like all of
these text messages on his phone from all of these Somalis,
and and like implicating him in the scheme, and it's like, well,
like he is really stupid, but he's not that stupid, right, Uh,
Like all the things that happen, there are half a
dozen intermediate areas between the Quality Leering Center and Tim Walls. Right,
so if like even even the dumbest of politicians are
not going to be implicated, you know, in something like
this so easily, but nevertheless, right, like you do end
up taking these pieces off the board. They aren't able
to do this stuff anymore. You start, you start prosecuting
the election laws that are in violation, that are in
like obvious violation of federal law. I mean stuff that
that Trump's doj should have been doing in his first term.
You're finally actually doing now. And and it's like because
you can do it because like you have the political
capital and the attention that has been brought to the issue.
Right if you had tried to do it in say
like twenty eighteen or something, Yeah, it probably wouldn't have
gone anywhere. Right. People think that like these things happen
independent of of like public opinion, but they don't like
like the public has to get like there's when there's
intense pressure on judges and like the spotlight is on them,
they can't do they can't do what they normally would do,
which is just like throwcases out and and and not
deal with it. Like that's that's normally that That's what
I mean. You look at twenty twenty, that's what happened.
Like he's not able to sue because they don't give
him standing on any of these election laws before the election.
And it's like the president of the United States can't
have standing, Like it's it's over, it's not, nothing's gonna happen.
But whereas you bring in enough public attention to it
and there's pressure and and they're they they're a little
bit scared and the spotlights on them, then they start,
you know, ruling in a little bit more fair ways
all of a sudden and so like. But all of
this is it's like just small incremental things. It's there's
not going to be these like big, grandiose things that happen, right.
I think anyone who like thinks that it's it's wishful thinking, Like, yeah,
I'd love to see Tim Walls in a jumpsuit, but
in an orange jumpsuit, not you know, any kind of
random one but but like, I'd love to see him
hold away, man, that'd be great. But it's uh, that
stuff is kind of high in the sky. And I
do have a running bet with Cija Engele. He he
believes that ilhan Omar and this is like CJ, who
is notoriously pessimistic about everything. Right, he believes that ilhan
Omar will be denaturalized and deported to Somalia in the
year twenty twenty six. Right, so we've got I'm against
gambling and betting, totally against it. But I made this
exception because he was just gonna give me one hundred
dollars because it's not gonna happen. But uh, there was
like a clip of Trump on Air Force one or
whatever that some reporter took and he's like, yeah, yeah,
ill Noma, we got it. We got a deporter. She's
got to get deported.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And so maybe maybe maybe I'm gonna be out, I
don't know, but uh no, I don't. I don't think big,
grandiose stuff's gonna happen. I think that it'll be small,
marginal things. And and if I'm you know, just being
a realist about politics and not this pie in the
sky idolist. Uh, I'm cool with that, right, I want
I mean it because it's better than nothing. Right, And
you have to stack these small, little incremental wins like
this is what the left has been good at for decades,
is you stack a little incremental win, but you're not
satisfied with it, but you're happy that you get the win,
a teeny tiny little win, and then you move on
to the next one. Right. That has to be That
has to be the attitude of the right. Right, if
we're actually going to begin fighting and taking things back,
it has to be. Yes, we we expend tons of
energy and capital and resources and attention on a tiny,
little incremental win, and then we move on to the
next one. Right, Like we're not satisfied except for total victory,
but like the little winds do matter because they add
up over time. And that's that's what I think is
going to happen here. So I'm not I'm not like
so depressed that I'm like, Oh, Minnesota is lost forever
and it's it's terrible.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think good things will happen, but it will take
a lot of patience and time too, every and I
might not even live to see it.
Speaker 1: Who knows Andrew, we're fast coming up on time, dude.
Speaker 2: I am on on x dot com at boniface option
and and also on on substanc like you with the
same handle at boniface option, so they can find me.
They can find me there, and yeah, I guess, and
and of course on on YouTube and all the other
places with with CJ doing contramundum and you know, talking
about you know, political stuff but also political theology and
theology proper. That is uh yeah, that that we record
every Wednesday and Friday usually that's our schedules. So that's
that's what we do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be sure to check that out, y'all. Show
is great. I don't catch it as much as I'd
like to, but every time I do, it's always the
same thought, which is why have I missed the last
two episodes? This is great, so be sure to check
that out. I'll make sure it's in the description. As
far as my stuff, Jay Burdens Show, Apple, Spotify, YouTube. Look,
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Fitness Coaching. Andrew, thanks so much, man, it's great having you.
Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Everyone home, keep your head up. I can't last forever.
Good night,