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Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: He does?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: The law.
Speaker 3: That's right, he's off doing the law. I am pretty certain,
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Speaker 3: about that court. Where have you been all day? Honey?
Speaker 3: His lovely wife Amy asks, been in court all day? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you look like you've been beat up. Oh rough time
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Speaker 3: On in Colorado. That's what I think. All right, So
Speaker 3: what we've been talking about, and let me just take
Speaker 3: one more shot at that, is this odd overlap between
Speaker 3: immigration and what happened in Boulder, what happened with this shooting.
Speaker 3: That's that's going to be worse because of immigration. We're
Speaker 3: not going to be able to stop so many terrorists.
Speaker 3: And I find the timing of what happened in Boulder
Speaker 3: and what happened in right Yusha thanks to the sneak
Speaker 3: attack from the Ukrainians to have an overlap.
Speaker 2: How do I mean this.
Speaker 3: I mean that it took many people, a coordinated effort
Speaker 3: to do big damage in Russia that was to a
Speaker 3: military target. Remember it took many people and a coordinated
Speaker 3: effort to give US nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: Twenty four years ago.
Speaker 3: I remember it like yesterday, Like yesterday. What happens when
Speaker 3: coordinated bad guys want to damage a country, they don't
Speaker 3: limit it to military targets the way the Ukrainians did
Speaker 3: so beautifully. No one that we know of was killed
Speaker 3: in those attacks. They blew up forty bombers, and they
Speaker 3: did so in a quiet, well hidden attack. Think about
Speaker 3: what the Israelis did with pagers. Well, they went after
Speaker 3: and targeted select bad guys.
Speaker 2: Terrorists.
Speaker 3: But when the terrorists turn their hatred towards US, they
Speaker 3: don't focus on military targets.
Speaker 2: They focus on civilian targets.
Speaker 3: Imagine what the Ukrainians did with drones, but instead of
Speaker 3: flying them to air bases where they could blow up
Speaker 3: United States Army airplanes, imagine if they did it to
Speaker 3: air ports and blew up commercial plot flights. Imagine if
Speaker 3: they use drones to try to hit planes in the air.
Speaker 3: All I know is the next attack is a whole
Speaker 3: lot more likely to happen after four years of open
Speaker 3: borders where these people came in. Yes, our bad immigration
Speaker 3: enforcement is the reason Boulder happened. This guy who shouldn't
Speaker 3: be here, who's on a two year expired visa, should
Speaker 3: have been sent home to Egypt wasn't. Whose fault is
Speaker 3: that the Biden administration Now at this point, Ice is
Speaker 3: so so.
Speaker 2: Very backed up.
Speaker 3: There is no way we're going to be able to
Speaker 3: find and get rid of the ten to fifteen million
Speaker 3: people who are here illegally. Technically we're supposed to know
Speaker 3: where all the visa holders are. But my but my
Speaker 3: suspicion is my suspicion is we don't know where they are.
Speaker 3: So when there's a coordinated attack, my suspicion is immigration
Speaker 3: is going to have a big reason why it happened.
Speaker 3: Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
Speaker 3: seven one three Talk?
Speaker 2: Do I have this wrong? Do I have this wrong?
Speaker 2: Is there anything we can do to protect ourselves? What
Speaker 2: are we not going.
Speaker 3: To go out and and live our lives? Are we
Speaker 3: not going to go out and tell the government what
Speaker 3: we want? This is this is troubling. This is really troubling.
Speaker 3: What will that attack look like? And don't for a
Speaker 3: minute think it's not happening. All right, let's uh, let's
Speaker 3: get back to the phones. Let's talk to Terry. Terry,
Speaker 3: good afternoon. You're with John Caldera.
Speaker 4: Thank you, John, good afternoon for you. I'm this is
Speaker 4: a extremely serious subject and I totally agree with you.
Speaker 4: We've got a big problem coming and I don't have
Speaker 4: an answer. But I like to backtrack just a little
Speaker 4: bit to Herb Albert's album fair Enough. My older brother
Speaker 4: had the album. Yes it was let's bring.
Speaker 2: New listeners up to speed.
Speaker 3: We were We played as a bumper music Mason Williams
Speaker 3: classical gas, to which a h the listener ToxT to
Speaker 3: me going forward, whenever I hear classical gas, I will
Speaker 3: think of John Caldero.
Speaker 2: How how very flattery for me? Yeah, I have a
Speaker 2: little gassy.
Speaker 3: And then we talked about other hits that were instrumental hits.
Speaker 2: Green Onion was an instrumental had wipe Out was an
Speaker 2: instrumental head and then of.
Speaker 3: Course Herb Albert had a few which, of course you
Speaker 3: can't say Herb Albert without most guys over forty years old,
Speaker 3: imagining the album cover of Whipped Cream, which every twelve
Speaker 3: year old boy would pull out of his dad's record
Speaker 3: collection and stare.
Speaker 4: You have to finish the title.
Speaker 2: Right right?
Speaker 3: It was called and other Delights?
Speaker 4: Yes, what might?
Speaker 3: What might HERB be talking about? And whipped cream and
Speaker 3: other delights?
Speaker 4: It's for you to determine when you're looking at it.
Speaker 3: Listen, you know, and mind you there's been race your
Speaker 3: album covers. But you know Herb Aalbot was was it
Speaker 3: was how to put it? A wholesome instrumentalist with a
Speaker 3: great horn player, and then all of a sudden, he'll
Speaker 3: I think he'll be remembered more for.
Speaker 2: That album cover than any any hit. Yeah, and remember
Speaker 2: she had so.
Speaker 3: For those who don't know, she's like obviously sitting on
Speaker 3: a chair or something, but she's uh covered up to
Speaker 3: her breasts with whipped cream and then a stylish dollop
Speaker 3: of whipped cream on the top of her head.
Speaker 4: Thank you, John, have a good evening.
Speaker 2: You two all right?
Speaker 3: Three oh three seven, one three eight two five five
Speaker 3: seven to one three talk and the whole spirit of
Speaker 3: less is more, you know, they they could have put
Speaker 3: are in something less, but it wouldn't be as attractive
Speaker 3: to the twelve year old boy set and everybody else
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick breather.
Speaker 3: When we get back, we'll go to the phones and
Speaker 3: talk to James up and Boulder. I'm John kel Derek
Speaker 3: you right here, six point thirty khow.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3: Making Sense out of the Senseless. I believe the next
Speaker 3: several years are going to see more things like Boulder,
Speaker 3: not less. My fear is that it's not going to
Speaker 3: be some lone agent, some weird guy who goes crazy
Speaker 3: with a weed sprayer full of gasoline, but several weird
Speaker 3: guys in coordination that have come over because of our
Speaker 3: open borders. Let's grab some of these calls. Let's go
Speaker 3: up to Bolder and talk to j James. Good afternoon, James,
Speaker 3: you're with John Caldera.
Speaker 6: You know it's good to hear you back online. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm surprised they let you back.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised they let me back.
Speaker 3: This is you know, you know they're in trouble when
Speaker 3: you hear me on the you know that the last
Speaker 3: of the lineup is up.
Speaker 6: Well, that's that's kind of my joke here. I came
Speaker 6: in seventy two, but I think that was before you
Speaker 6: were born or something like that.
Speaker 3: No, I was born in sixty four, so I was
Speaker 3: eight years old, and I have been in Colorado for
Speaker 3: at least a year or two by that point.
Speaker 6: Okay, well, that's good, that's good. I just I just
Speaker 6: I enjoy what you have to say, and you know,
Speaker 6: it just troubles me. And as I've watched Boulder over
Speaker 6: the years turn into what it is today.
Speaker 2: And how long have you lived in Boulder seventy two?
Speaker 3: All right, so let me ask you a couple questions.
Speaker 3: Because I love Boulder. I live in Bolder. I love
Speaker 3: what Boulder used to be. So when you were in Bolder,
Speaker 3: there was still a Republican congressman from Boulder.
Speaker 2: After Watergate, never again was.
Speaker 3: There a Republican congressman from Boulder, and it turned goofy liberal,
Speaker 3: which is fine. But my memory, and I remembered so well,
Speaker 3: was that Boulder was always goofy liberal. You'd find some
Speaker 3: Buddhist guys banging drums and walking around, and you had
Speaker 3: the no Uropa Institute.
Speaker 2: And all the rest, but it was not intolerant.
Speaker 3: It was still the home right down the street from
Speaker 3: the europe Institute of Soldier, of Fortune magazine and Paladin pressents.
Speaker 2: I taught you how to make bombs well.
Speaker 6: And you know what, and Beck I was in real
Speaker 6: estate and I rented property to these people. You know,
Speaker 6: it's still be living. It's like it wasn't any big deal.
Speaker 6: They were okay, they were, they were nice people.
Speaker 3: The goofy liberals that were in Bolder were they were socialists,
Speaker 3: but they weren't fascists. And over time Boulder has become
Speaker 3: such an intolerant place, such a hateful place that is
Speaker 3: so busy smelling their own flatulence. They don't understand how
Speaker 3: smug and elitist they are, and how they talk about
Speaker 3: their great diversity, intolerance and acceptance, unless, of course, you
Speaker 3: don't share their political views, or if you're a gun owner,
Speaker 3: or if you're Jewish.
Speaker 2: Or if you're black, you're not really welcome there.
Speaker 6: But you and I still live here.
Speaker 4: Why is that?
Speaker 3: Because part of it is like we were here first,
Speaker 3: and there's this.
Speaker 2: Part of this.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to let you chase me out of
Speaker 3: this town that is nestled into the foothills, that is
Speaker 3: still beautiful and I'm going to be here as a
Speaker 3: counterbalance to your intolerance. How's that for an answer.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: Well, you know what, I'm the same way. It's just
Speaker 6: I keep my mouth shut to it's a certain degree,
Speaker 6: because why do.
Speaker 2: You keep your mouth shut?
Speaker 3: And by the way, I just had a deep conversation
Speaker 3: with a couple of psychotherapist or therapists who will not
Speaker 3: come out of the closet on their feelings on the
Speaker 3: damage that the trans agenda is doing to kids because they.
Speaker 2: Don't want to get canceled.
Speaker 3: They don't want to lose their license, and so their
Speaker 3: freedom to speak has been chilled, and they they're concerned
Speaker 3: about what's happening to kids who are kids who are
Speaker 3: hurting themselves in the name of life affirming surgery. But
Speaker 3: they feel they cannot speak because they will be punished,
Speaker 3: they will lose their livelihood. And you just said you
Speaker 3: don't speak out as much in Bolder. Now, mind you,
Speaker 3: I'm in a unique situation. I'm blessed to be paid
Speaker 3: to be a jerk. You know, I get to be
Speaker 3: the guy in Boulder that that.
Speaker 6: People throw it.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I love listening to you.
Speaker 6: That's the whole reason about it.
Speaker 2: But what why are you?
Speaker 3: Why do you feel like you cannot be as open
Speaker 3: about your political views and Bolder?
Speaker 6: Because I run a business that's such that if it
Speaker 6: became a parent, it might screw myself up on being
Speaker 6: able to rent properties to the new people coming into town.
Speaker 6: It's about that simple. I just got to keep you
Speaker 6: shut up.
Speaker 3: And that's what I mean about the intolerance of Bolder,
Speaker 3: that people like you reasonably fear what would happen if
Speaker 3: you are true to yourself?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: So they do all this this great stuff that if
Speaker 3: your trans be true to yourself and will help you
Speaker 3: uh to surgery on your body, will be accepting.
Speaker 2: Of you if you if you're a lesbian, gay, Muslim,
Speaker 2: whatever it is.
Speaker 3: But if you are free market oriented, if you're a libertarian,
Speaker 3: if you're a conservative, if you're a gun owner, for
Speaker 3: God's sake, we will make your life hell. And you
Speaker 3: better keep it in the closet. That is the opposite
Speaker 3: of tolerance. And they don't see it.
Speaker 2: They refuse to see their intolerance.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I agree with it, Jan. And you know,
Speaker 6: when I came here in seventy two, everything was cool.
Speaker 6: I got a couple of good stories about that. You know,
Speaker 6: I came on to this really nice what would you
Speaker 6: call her? A Spanish girl? And everybody said you shouldn't
Speaker 6: do that, and I said why and then you said
Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah blah. I he says, Oh, I'm
Speaker 6: from Philadelphia. That's because you're talking about black people. And
Speaker 6: I was like, are you kidding? What's going on here?
Speaker 6: So I'd learned my lessons, and what was the lesson was, Ish,
Speaker 6: don't try and be nice to Asian or Asian girls
Speaker 6: or whatever girls. Just just just be nicer and just
Speaker 6: don't be a bad boy like I was.
Speaker 3: You know, well you shouldn't be a bad boy anyway.
Speaker 3: I might not be understanding your story fully because it
Speaker 3: wasn't clear to me, but I'm kind of slow.
Speaker 6: Okay. It was more like when I was nice to
Speaker 6: a person.
Speaker 2: That and I thought you were hitting on a girl.
Speaker 2: Is that what I'm hearing?
Speaker 6: Yes, that's what I was hitting on a girl. And
Speaker 6: then she came back at me really harsh, and I
Speaker 6: didn't understand why. And then somebody explained to me.
Speaker 2: Why, because I thought, oh, because.
Speaker 3: She's a different race, because in Boulder, a se race,
Speaker 3: I got to run to a break.
Speaker 2: I'm John Caldera. Keep it right here. You're on six
Speaker 2: thirty k h ow.
Speaker 5: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Ringo Starr's son.
Speaker 3: Why so they're starting to fight like they used to
Speaker 3: back in the eighties when they didn't get along.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I mean, John, think about it.
Speaker 3: If you can put up with Keith Moon and his
Speaker 3: exactly for so long until the guy died well, and
Speaker 3: also one of the reasons if you recall, and this
Speaker 3: is getting a little nerdy. And by the way, I
Speaker 3: hope you hope David stay on the line, but I
Speaker 3: got to get this part out. When Kenny Jones became
Speaker 3: the replacement drummer for Keith Moon, it didn't sit well.
Speaker 3: Roger didn't like it, the lead singer didn't like it,
Speaker 3: and it didn't feel right. And when they found Zach Starsky,
Speaker 3: Rogers said it felt like Keith Moon was back in
Speaker 3: the group. Why because Ringo didn't really want his son
Speaker 3: Zach to be a drummer, so never really taught him
Speaker 3: how to play drums.
Speaker 2: Ooh showed him how to play drums.
Speaker 3: Uncle Keith Moon and so Mooney taught Zach how to
Speaker 3: play a bit, although Zach is a real drummer and
Speaker 3: Keith Moon was just crazy and so yeah, it just
Speaker 3: kind of stinks that, you know, Zach had been in
Speaker 3: the Who longer than Keith Moon at this point, that's right. Anyway,
Speaker 3: they're pushing like eighty five or eighty or something, and
Speaker 3: Roger is starting to lose his hearing, and so this
Speaker 3: is this is I mean, they've had a million final tours,
Speaker 3: but this one has got to be the final final tour,
Speaker 3: I gotta think. And last time I saw them here
Speaker 3: they are two old guys, the original two of Pete
Speaker 3: Townsend and and Roger Daltrey. They were better than I've
Speaker 3: ever heard them, even back when and Twistle was there.
Speaker 3: Although we missing Twistle the base wasn't wasn't the same,
Speaker 3: But as far as their two performances, man, they got
Speaker 3: better with age. It's it's unreal, just unreal to see
Speaker 3: these old guys. I saw an interview with Ringo Starr
Speaker 3: and he's going to be out on the road again
Speaker 3: with his all star band, which is a great way
Speaker 3: for him to do it.
Speaker 2: And the guy is how old does he take a guess?
Speaker 2: Eighty five years old.
Speaker 3: And still touring and still married to that hot babe
Speaker 3: Catherine Bach.
Speaker 2: How did we get on this? Oh?
Speaker 3: The Who I played? You played a WHO song. That's
Speaker 3: all it takes for me as that's that's head to
Speaker 3: the phones three oh three seven, one three eight two
Speaker 3: five five. David out in Boulder. Welcome you're with John Caldera.
Speaker 7: Love you here.
Speaker 8: I was great here, A great house I love. But
Speaker 8: you always had a little bit of spice to it
Speaker 8: and I got a preface. I love classic rock. But John,
Speaker 8: you're you're dating yourself talking about the Who about Boulder,
Speaker 8: just like everybody.
Speaker 9: But this is ninety seven.
Speaker 8: So I'm not a real veteran like you.
Speaker 9: But they complained in ninety seven about Boulder changing.
Speaker 8: They complained in.
Speaker 9: The odds about Boulder changing.
Speaker 4: They complained.
Speaker 8: You know, they're still complaining today and so yeah, you've
Speaker 8: had a little uh.
Speaker 2: Let me let me retort, and I think I will
Speaker 2: win this debate with this. Get off my lawn. I
Speaker 2: get off my lawn.
Speaker 8: For thirty years, so I know I love you and
Speaker 8: I love you. Know your texts on stuff becufuss are
Speaker 8: you like you don't you don't want to come off
Speaker 8: as grandpa all a sudden.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's I wonder about that, especially when I'm when I'm
Speaker 3: griping about young people. How much is it it's a
Speaker 3: legitimate gripe, and how much of it is that it's
Speaker 3: just traditional hatred of the of the younger generation because
Speaker 3: you don't understand.
Speaker 9: The human nature, you know. I just so I'm trying
Speaker 9: to cat.
Speaker 8: Older boulder. But yeah, the other thing too, I do
Speaker 8: got to push back a little bit. Yeah, what everyone's.
Speaker 9: Talking though, so worried about the trans kids and all
Speaker 9: the trans surgery of them.
Speaker 8: Has any kid? I mean, how many kids.
Speaker 9: That have surgery? There aren't trans women, you.
Speaker 8: Know, fifteen years old, you know, getting their genitals cut off?
Speaker 4: This is not happening.
Speaker 2: Are they on hormon I know, I know, I know several.
Speaker 3: I know of several girls who have had breast removal surgery,
Speaker 3: and I know a ton of kids who are on
Speaker 3: hormone therapies that will do do long term damage. Now,
Speaker 3: mine you that may or may not be the right
Speaker 3: thing for them, But when they're doing it before their
Speaker 3: age of consent, I do worry on their behalf. My
Speaker 3: biggest worry about the trans movement is not.
Speaker 2: Is not that.
Speaker 3: What I worry about is the attack on truth and
Speaker 3: the attack on free speech.
Speaker 2: And let's assume we're talking about adults here.
Speaker 3: Let's forget about the indoctrination, which I think is certainly
Speaker 3: happening in schools. But assume that you know, some thirty
Speaker 3: year old guy wants to identifies as she.
Speaker 2: More power to him.
Speaker 3: But I mean that as sincerely as possible. But that
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that I have to call that person she,
Speaker 3: because objectively, his chromosomes haven't changed, his genitals haven't changed.
Speaker 3: He's still a man. He's a man who thinks he's
Speaker 3: a woman, and that's fine. But the truly fascist movement
Speaker 3: that is the trans movement will punish you if you're
Speaker 3: not using the right speed. And so House Bill was
Speaker 3: at twelve thirteen twelve is now making it an act
Speaker 3: of discrimination to misgender somebody. So by law, I am
Speaker 3: forced to use to lie, and more accurately, people in
Speaker 3: work situations have to lie to keep their jobs or
Speaker 3: also they'll be sent up to HR for using the
Speaker 3: wrong pronouns. And that's what I find so repugnant about
Speaker 3: this movement is that it attacks our free speech and
Speaker 3: tries to dictate how we should think.
Speaker 2: And that's dangerous.
Speaker 3: Whether any government that controls speech, is in any movement
Speaker 3: that punishes people for the words.
Speaker 2: They use, I think is a danger. Am I wrong?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 9: In a work environment, you don't truly have freedom of speech.
Speaker 9: You can call out homosexual, transgender person, someone on their
Speaker 9: race who can't get away with any of those things
Speaker 9: in a word.
Speaker 2: Look at look at Jack Phillips.
Speaker 3: Guys like Jack Phillips, and Jack Phillips almost lost his
Speaker 3: business because of speech controls. That's wrong. And people, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I understand if it's a if it's a company, and
Speaker 3: you got to do what the company says, but think
Speaker 3: about the position you are putting a person in when
Speaker 3: you say, in this company, we refer to these men
Speaker 3: as women.
Speaker 2: And if you don't, you'll get fired.
Speaker 3: So you've got to choose between telling the truth, lying
Speaker 3: and feeding your family. You've got to choose should I
Speaker 3: should I lie? And I got to go home tonight
Speaker 3: and tell my kid not to lie. But I'm going
Speaker 3: to work and I am lying in order to keep
Speaker 3: my job. That just destroys people's minds and souls. And
Speaker 3: I think it is it is wrong. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3: When you answer the phone, you're gonna say hello, welcome
Speaker 3: to iHeart, and that's what you're doing.
Speaker 2: If you don't, you're gonna get fired.
Speaker 3: But to deny reality and be forced to do that
Speaker 3: as a matter of employment, I think is devious and dangerous.
Speaker 8: I mean, if you were a spouse in a flat
Speaker 8: earth theory or something along those lines in a real
Speaker 8: contentious and.
Speaker 9: An aggressive way at work, it would show negatively against
Speaker 9: you and you would probably you know.
Speaker 3: But that's exactly what the Trans movement to get is.
Speaker 3: The Trans movement is a flat earth theory. They're saying
Speaker 3: that people with x Y chromosomes don't have x y chromosomes.
Speaker 8: That is, they don't feel like they're in the right body.
Speaker 8: You're talking different things.
Speaker 3: You're done right, right, But here's the thing, Yes, they
Speaker 3: feel like they're in the I agree with that. That's
Speaker 3: not the issue. The issue is controlling my speech. And
Speaker 3: it's not like saying, hey, this is Bob. Bob thinks
Speaker 3: he's a woman. Great, that's a descriptive. But to say
Speaker 3: she makes me lie. It makes me have to accept
Speaker 3: somebody else's belief structure, that his belief of who he
Speaker 3: is Trump's my belief of what language should be and
Speaker 3: what reality is. Why does his right to his delusion
Speaker 3: trump my right to free speech?
Speaker 2: And I'd like an answer to that.
Speaker 9: This is about being civil in society and especially in
Speaker 9: a workplace. You have to be civil to your people.
Speaker 8: And you know what if you have somebody that's not
Speaker 8: making it away?
Speaker 9: Like I said, what about what?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 9: Whoa whoa?
Speaker 6: Whoa?
Speaker 2: Whoa? What about that person? What?
Speaker 3: What about that person being civil to me? Don't I
Speaker 3: have some expectation of being respected as well? What about
Speaker 3: my right to be who I am?
Speaker 2: And I am a person?
Speaker 3: When I see one person cannot say they because they're
Speaker 3: not two of them?
Speaker 2: What gives Why is it that they.
Speaker 3: Have that right and I have to bow to their sensitivities.
Speaker 3: They don't have to bow to my sensitivities, which is
Speaker 3: free speech. I'm not saying you cannot, you cannot identify
Speaker 3: as a woman. I'm not saying that. I'm saying you
Speaker 3: cannot force my speech. Why do they Why does their
Speaker 3: sensitivity trump my right to free speech? And yes, you
Speaker 3: say civil because there are two there are only two
Speaker 3: responses to this. If you refuse to use the words
Speaker 3: we choose. You are either mean or you are ignorant. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm neither mean or a right. So give me a
Speaker 3: quick answer, because I got to take a break.
Speaker 2: Why, Why does? Why does? Why does? And heng on?
Speaker 2: Let me get the question out.
Speaker 3: Why does their sensitivity trump my right of free speech?
Speaker 8: There's a lot of.
Speaker 9: Words around religion, race, sexuality, things like that that you
Speaker 9: cannot use in public.
Speaker 2: And that's not an answer. Let me try it again.
Speaker 2: I have a protected right to say anything I want.
Speaker 3: About race, religion, and anything else, and I can be
Speaker 3: judged for that as being a jerk. Answer the question directly,
Speaker 3: why does their sensitivity trump my right to free speech?
Speaker 9: Your right to free speech does not let you do it.
Speaker 9: Your musically have the right to lose your job if
Speaker 9: you use it the wrong way?
Speaker 3: Right, Why is there a law saying I cannot have
Speaker 3: free speech? Tell me why there's a law about misgendering,
Speaker 3: which means that I have to take away my free
Speaker 3: speech for their sensitivity.
Speaker 2: Tell me why that should be.
Speaker 9: Okay, that's the same thing. There's a lot of laws
Speaker 9: to it about using certain racial speech that you can't
Speaker 9: use in public.
Speaker 3: That's a law, of course, you can do. I have
Speaker 3: every right to use every racial slur I.
Speaker 8: Like you can, but then you can't work there anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about work. Try this again. Focus, Focus, Focus.
Speaker 3: We just passed a law on the state legislature saying
Speaker 3: misgendering is a hate crime. That is an act of
Speaker 3: legal discrimination. The government says, I cannot use those words.
Speaker 3: So why is their sensitivity now legally trumps my right
Speaker 3: to free speech? Tell me why that is correct and
Speaker 3: why that's right. Focus on the question.
Speaker 8: I'm feeling your I'm feeling your question.
Speaker 3: You're giving an answer it, but it's the freaking law.
Speaker 2: Answer it. The laws and the.
Speaker 9: Way they're set up.
Speaker 8: You could say anyone by yourself and your family with
Speaker 8: a bunch of fellow traveler.
Speaker 3: Oh so my right to free speech in public has
Speaker 3: now been curtailed. Why don't you just say that this
Speaker 3: is a vicious violation of the First Amendment and it
Speaker 3: is offensive to everything.
Speaker 2: We hold.
Speaker 9: Because there is no absolute right to free spae, all right,
Speaker 9: So we can control what other people say, all right?
Speaker 3: So when I get enough people and we pass the
Speaker 3: law saying that you cannot use the word African American,
Speaker 3: you have to use the N word then you'll be
Speaker 3: okay with that too, for the same reason I got
Speaker 3: a break. But you need to take these things turn
Speaker 3: them one hundred and eighty degrees, and if you don't
Speaker 3: support it going the other way, then you know a
Speaker 3: law is immoral.
Speaker 2: Back after this.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplis show podcast.
Speaker 3: Really is frustrating, and you see it when the cognitive
Speaker 3: dissident that happens around free speech and the trans issue.
Speaker 3: He could not answer why the law should be that
Speaker 3: a trans person's sensitivity trumps my right to free speech,
Speaker 3: and then he started speaking some errors. Well you can't
Speaker 3: say racist stuff. No, there's no law that says you
Speaker 3: can't say racist stuff. In fact, there's a freaking amendment
Speaker 3: that says you can. The ACLU went to court to
Speaker 3: protect neo Nazis, ridiculous racists thoughts and their right to
Speaker 3: express them.
Speaker 2: But here in Colorado, misgendering is a crime.
Speaker 3: This is so wrong in any liberal person, I mean
Speaker 3: that in the classic way should be offended by this.
Speaker 2: This is dangerous.
Speaker 3: And my one hundred and eighty degree test is, well,
Speaker 3: what if it went the other way, What if a
Speaker 3: bunch of people said no, no, no, you cannot use
Speaker 3: this term. You have to use the N word instead,
Speaker 3: even though it offends people. Well, then our last caller
Speaker 3: would have to accept that gratefully because.
Speaker 2: That's that's the law. Say no, no, no, that's not the
Speaker 2: way this works.
Speaker 3: I find this highly offensive, and I'm tired of being
Speaker 3: called anti trans when I'm very pro trans. Just give
Speaker 3: me my right to free speech and leave our kids alone.
Speaker 2: Let's see if we can sneak in, Jerry.
Speaker 3: Jerry, we got like thirty seconds, so you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to make it really.
Speaker 7: Fast, okay, John, A couple of things. So your last
Speaker 7: caller said that there were not many surgeries for trans
Speaker 7: surgery for cosmetic or esthetics. There's three clinics just in
Speaker 7: Cherry Creek that averaged two surgeries a day. So just
Speaker 7: those clinics in Cherry Creek gold are two thousand. The
Speaker 7: majority of those surgeries are under eighteen.
Speaker 2: That is dangerous.
Speaker 3: By the way, my last column, and you can read
Speaker 3: it on Complete Colorado, is now we have to pay
Speaker 3: for those surgeries, but straight people don't. So in other words,
Speaker 3: if you're trans, you get this for free. If you're
Speaker 3: not trans, you have to pay for your own cosmetic surgery.
Speaker 2: Go figure the fairness there. I'm John Caldera. Keep it here.
Speaker 2: You're on KHW