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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Six minutes after Dan is off doing what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>He does?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>The law.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, he's off doing the law. I am pretty certain,

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<v Speaker 3>he goes to a bar called court. I mean, think

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<v Speaker 3>about that court. Where have you been all day? Honey?

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<v Speaker 3>His lovely wife Amy asks, been in court all day? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you look like you've been beat up. Oh rough time

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<v Speaker 3>in court today. I think that's what works.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, if you don't know about Independence Institute,

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<v Speaker 3>our first four decades, our first forty years, fighting for

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<v Speaker 3>personal and economic freedom in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>The flat tax, we wouldn't have lowered the flat tax,

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<v Speaker 3>we wouldn't have concealed carry permits, we wouldn't have charter schools.

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<v Speaker 3>Independence Institute has done so much over those forty years.

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<v Speaker 3>should really make it part of your daily reading list.

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<v Speaker 3>It's free, there's never a paywall, and we focus on

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado issues. We figure you got plenty of Washington issues

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<v Speaker 3>and national stuff, but the real fight for liberty is

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<v Speaker 3>right here in your backyard in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you want to know completely what's going.

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<v Speaker 3>On in Colorado. That's what I think. All right, So

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<v Speaker 3>what we've been talking about, and let me just take

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<v Speaker 3>one more shot at that, is this odd overlap between

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<v Speaker 3>immigration and what happened in Boulder, what happened with this shooting.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's going to be worse because of immigration. We're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be able to stop so many terrorists.

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<v Speaker 3>And I find the timing of what happened in Boulder

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<v Speaker 3>and what happened in right Yusha thanks to the sneak

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<v Speaker 3>attack from the Ukrainians to have an overlap.

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<v Speaker 2>How do I mean this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that it took many people, a coordinated effort

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<v Speaker 3>to do big damage in Russia that was to a

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<v Speaker 3>military target. Remember it took many people and a coordinated

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<v Speaker 3>effort to give US nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty four years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember it like yesterday, Like yesterday. What happens when

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<v Speaker 3>coordinated bad guys want to damage a country, they don't

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<v Speaker 3>limit it to military targets the way the Ukrainians did

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<v Speaker 3>so beautifully. No one that we know of was killed

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<v Speaker 3>in those attacks. They blew up forty bombers, and they

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<v Speaker 3>did so in a quiet, well hidden attack. Think about

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<v Speaker 3>what the Israelis did with pagers. Well, they went after

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<v Speaker 3>and targeted select bad guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrorists.

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<v Speaker 3>But when the terrorists turn their hatred towards US, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't focus on military targets.

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<v Speaker 2>They focus on civilian targets.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine what the Ukrainians did with drones, but instead of

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<v Speaker 3>flying them to air bases where they could blow up

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<v Speaker 3>United States Army airplanes, imagine if they did it to

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<v Speaker 3>air ports and blew up commercial plot flights. Imagine if

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<v Speaker 3>they use drones to try to hit planes in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>All I know is the next attack is a whole

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<v Speaker 3>lot more likely to happen after four years of open

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<v Speaker 3>borders where these people came in. Yes, our bad immigration

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<v Speaker 3>enforcement is the reason Boulder happened. This guy who shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be here, who's on a two year expired visa, should

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<v Speaker 3>have been sent home to Egypt wasn't. Whose fault is

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<v Speaker 3>that the Biden administration Now at this point, Ice is

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<v Speaker 2>Very backed up.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no way we're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>people who are here illegally. Technically we're supposed to know

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<v Speaker 3>where all the visa holders are. But my but my

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<v Speaker 3>suspicion is my suspicion is we don't know where they are.

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<v Speaker 3>So when there's a coordinated attack, my suspicion is immigration

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<v Speaker 3>is going to have a big reason why it happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Three oh three seven one three eight two five five

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have this wrong? Do I have this wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything we can do to protect ourselves? What

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<v Speaker 2>are we not going.

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<v Speaker 3>To go out and and live our lives? Are we

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<v Speaker 3>not going to go out and tell the government what

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<v Speaker 3>we want? This is this is troubling. This is really troubling.

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<v Speaker 3>What will that attack look like? And don't for a

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<v Speaker 3>minute think it's not happening. All right, let's uh, let's

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<v Speaker 3>get back to the phones. Let's talk to Terry. Terry,

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<v Speaker 3>good afternoon. You're with John Caldera.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, John, good afternoon for you. I'm this is

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<v Speaker 4>a extremely serious subject and I totally agree with you.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got a big problem coming and I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>an answer. But I like to backtrack just a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit to Herb Albert's album fair Enough. My older brother

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<v Speaker 4>had the album. Yes it was let's bring.

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<v Speaker 2>New listeners up to speed.

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<v Speaker 3>We were We played as a bumper music Mason Williams

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<v Speaker 3>classical gas, to which a h the listener ToxT to

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<v Speaker 3>me going forward, whenever I hear classical gas, I will

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<v Speaker 3>think of John Caldero.

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<v Speaker 2>How how very flattery for me? Yeah, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>little gassy.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we talked about other hits that were instrumental hits.

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<v Speaker 2>Green Onion was an instrumental had wipe Out was an

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<v Speaker 3>Course Herb Albert had a few which, of course you

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<v Speaker 3>can't say Herb Albert without most guys over forty years old,

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<v Speaker 3>imagining the album cover of Whipped Cream, which every twelve

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<v Speaker 3>collection and stare.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to finish the title.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right?

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<v Speaker 3>It was called and other Delights?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, what might?

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<v Speaker 3>What might HERB be talking about? And whipped cream and

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<v Speaker 3>other delights?

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<v Speaker 4>It's for you to determine when you're looking at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, you know, and mind you there's been race your

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<v Speaker 3>album covers. But you know Herb Aalbot was was it

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<v Speaker 3>was how to put it? A wholesome instrumentalist with a

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<v Speaker 3>I think he'll be remembered more for.

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<v Speaker 2>That album cover than any any hit. Yeah, and remember

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<v Speaker 3>For those who don't know, she's like obviously sitting on

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<v Speaker 3>a chair or something, but she's uh covered up to

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<v Speaker 3>of whipped cream on the top of her head.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, John, have a good evening.

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<v Speaker 2>You two all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Three oh three seven, one three eight two five five

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<v Speaker 3>seven to one three talk and the whole spirit of

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<v Speaker 3>less is more, you know, they they could have put

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<v Speaker 3>are in something less, but it wouldn't be as attractive

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<v Speaker 3>to the twelve year old boy set and everybody else

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<v Speaker 3>When we get back, we'll go to the phones and

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<v Speaker 3>talk to James up and Boulder. I'm John kel Derek

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<v Speaker 3>you right here, six point thirty khow.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Making Sense out of the Senseless. I believe the next

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<v Speaker 3>several years are going to see more things like Boulder,

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<v Speaker 3>not less. My fear is that it's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be some lone agent, some weird guy who goes crazy

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<v Speaker 3>with a weed sprayer full of gasoline, but several weird

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<v Speaker 3>guys in coordination that have come over because of our

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<v Speaker 3>open borders. Let's grab some of these calls. Let's go

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<v Speaker 3>up to Bolder and talk to j James. Good afternoon, James,

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<v Speaker 3>you're with John Caldera.

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<v Speaker 6>You know it's good to hear you back online. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm surprised they let you back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised they let me back.

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<v Speaker 3>This is you know, you know they're in trouble when

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<v Speaker 3>you hear me on the you know that the last

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<v Speaker 3>of the lineup is up.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that's that's kind of my joke here. I came

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<v Speaker 6>in seventy two, but I think that was before you

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<v Speaker 6>were born or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was born in sixty four, so I was

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<v Speaker 3>eight years old, and I have been in Colorado for

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<v Speaker 3>at least a year or two by that point.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, well, that's good, that's good. I just I just

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<v Speaker 6>I enjoy what you have to say, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it just troubles me. And as I've watched Boulder over

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<v Speaker 6>the years turn into what it is today.

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<v Speaker 2>And how long have you lived in Boulder seventy two?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so let me ask you a couple questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I love Boulder. I live in Bolder. I love

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<v Speaker 3>what Boulder used to be. So when you were in Bolder,

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<v Speaker 3>there was still a Republican congressman from Boulder.

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<v Speaker 2>After Watergate, never again was.

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<v Speaker 3>There a Republican congressman from Boulder, and it turned goofy liberal,

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<v Speaker 3>which is fine. But my memory, and I remembered so well,

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<v Speaker 3>was that Boulder was always goofy liberal. You'd find some

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<v Speaker 3>Buddhist guys banging drums and walking around, and you had

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<v Speaker 3>the no Uropa Institute.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the rest, but it was not intolerant.

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<v Speaker 3>It was still the home right down the street from

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<v Speaker 3>the europe Institute of Soldier, of Fortune magazine and Paladin pressents.

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<v Speaker 2>I taught you how to make bombs well.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know what, and Beck I was in real

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<v Speaker 6>estate and I rented property to these people. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's still be living. It's like it wasn't any big deal.

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<v Speaker 6>They were okay, they were, they were nice people.

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<v Speaker 3>The goofy liberals that were in Bolder were they were socialists,

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<v Speaker 3>but they weren't fascists. And over time Boulder has become

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<v Speaker 3>such an intolerant place, such a hateful place that is

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<v Speaker 3>so busy smelling their own flatulence. They don't understand how

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<v Speaker 3>smug and elitist they are, and how they talk about

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<v Speaker 3>their great diversity, intolerance and acceptance, unless, of course, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't share their political views, or if you're a gun owner,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you're Jewish.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you're black, you're not really welcome there.

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<v Speaker 6>But you and I still live here.

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<v Speaker 4>Why is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because part of it is like we were here first,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's this.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to let you chase me out of

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<v Speaker 3>this town that is nestled into the foothills, that is

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<v Speaker 3>still beautiful and I'm going to be here as a

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<v Speaker 3>counterbalance to your intolerance. How's that for an answer.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 6>People throw it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine with that. I love listening to you.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I mean about the intolerance of Bolder,

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Of you if you if you're a lesbian, gay, Muslim,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a conservative, if you're a gun owner, for

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<v Speaker 3>God's sake, we will make your life hell. And you

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<v Speaker 2>They refuse to see their intolerance.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well I agree with it, Jan. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when I came here in seventy two, everything was cool.

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<v Speaker 6>I got a couple of good stories about that. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>I came on to this really nice what would you

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<v Speaker 6>do that, and I said why and then you said

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<v Speaker 6>don't try and be nice to Asian or Asian girls

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever girls. Just just just be nicer and just

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<v Speaker 3>You know, well you shouldn't be a bad boy anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>I might not be understanding your story fully because it

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<v Speaker 6>Okay. It was more like when I was nice to

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<v Speaker 2>That and I thought you were hitting on a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what I'm hearing?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's what I was hitting on a girl. And

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<v Speaker 6>then she came back at me really harsh, and I

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<v Speaker 2>Why, because I thought, oh, because.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a different race, because in Boulder, a se race,

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<v Speaker 3>I got to run to a break.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm John Caldera. Keep it right here. You're on six

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<v Speaker 2>thirty k h ow.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Ringo Starr's son.

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<v Speaker 3>Why so they're starting to fight like they used to

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<v Speaker 3>back in the eighties when they didn't get along.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, but I mean, John, think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can put up with Keith Moon and his

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<v Speaker 3>exactly for so long until the guy died well, and

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<v Speaker 3>also one of the reasons if you recall, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is getting a little nerdy. And by the way, I

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<v Speaker 3>hope you hope David stay on the line, but I

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<v Speaker 3>got to get this part out. When Kenny Jones became

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<v Speaker 3>the replacement drummer for Keith Moon, it didn't sit well.

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<v Speaker 3>Roger didn't like it, the lead singer didn't like it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it didn't feel right. And when they found Zach Starsky,

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<v Speaker 3>Rogers said it felt like Keith Moon was back in

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<v Speaker 3>the group. Why because Ringo didn't really want his son

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<v Speaker 3>Zach to be a drummer, so never really taught him

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<v Speaker 3>how to play drums.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh showed him how to play drums.

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<v Speaker 3>Uncle Keith Moon and so Mooney taught Zach how to

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<v Speaker 3>play a bit, although Zach is a real drummer and

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<v Speaker 3>Keith Moon was just crazy and so yeah, it just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stinks that, you know, Zach had been in

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<v Speaker 3>the Who longer than Keith Moon at this point, that's right. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>they're pushing like eighty five or eighty or something, and

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<v Speaker 3>Roger is starting to lose his hearing, and so this

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<v Speaker 3>is this is I mean, they've had a million final tours,

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<v Speaker 3>but this one has got to be the final final tour,

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta think. And last time I saw them here

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<v Speaker 3>they are two old guys, the original two of Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Townsend and and Roger Daltrey. They were better than I've

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<v Speaker 3>ever heard them, even back when and Twistle was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Although we missing Twistle the base wasn't wasn't the same,

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<v Speaker 3>But as far as their two performances, man, they got

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<v Speaker 3>better with age. It's it's unreal, just unreal to see

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<v Speaker 3>these old guys. I saw an interview with Ringo Starr

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<v Speaker 3>and he's going to be out on the road again

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<v Speaker 3>with his all star band, which is a great way

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<v Speaker 3>for him to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy is how old does he take a guess?

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty five years old.

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<v Speaker 3>And still touring and still married to that hot babe

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<v Speaker 3>Catherine Bach.

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<v Speaker 2>How did we get on this? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>The Who I played? You played a WHO song. That's

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<v Speaker 3>all it takes for me as that's that's head to

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<v Speaker 3>the phones three oh three seven, one three eight two

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<v Speaker 3>five five. David out in Boulder. Welcome you're with John Caldera.

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<v Speaker 7>Love you here.

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<v Speaker 8>I was great here, A great house I love. But

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<v Speaker 8>you always had a little bit of spice to it

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<v Speaker 8>and I got a preface. I love classic rock. But John,

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<v Speaker 8>you're you're dating yourself talking about the Who about Boulder,

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<v Speaker 8>just like everybody.

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<v Speaker 9>But this is ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm not a real veteran like you.

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<v Speaker 9>But they complained in ninety seven about Boulder changing.

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<v Speaker 8>They complained in.

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<v Speaker 9>The odds about Boulder changing.

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<v Speaker 4>They complained.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, they're still complaining today and so yeah, you've

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<v Speaker 8>had a little uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me let me retort, and I think I will

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<v Speaker 2>win this debate with this. Get off my lawn. I

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<v Speaker 2>get off my lawn.

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<v Speaker 8>For thirty years, so I know I love you and

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<v Speaker 8>I love you. Know your texts on stuff becufuss are

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<v Speaker 8>you like you don't you don't want to come off

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<v Speaker 8>as grandpa all a sudden.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I wonder about that, especially when I'm when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>griping about young people. How much is it it's a

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<v Speaker 3>legitimate gripe, and how much of it is that it's

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<v Speaker 3>just traditional hatred of the of the younger generation because

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<v Speaker 3>you don't understand.

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<v Speaker 9>The human nature, you know. I just so I'm trying

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<v Speaker 9>to cat.

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<v Speaker 8>Older boulder. But yeah, the other thing too, I do

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<v Speaker 8>got to push back a little bit. Yeah, what everyone's.

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<v Speaker 9>Talking though, so worried about the trans kids and all

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<v Speaker 9>the trans surgery of them.

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<v Speaker 8>Has any kid? I mean, how many kids.

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<v Speaker 9>That have surgery? There aren't trans women, you.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, fifteen years old, you know, getting their genitals cut off?

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<v Speaker 4>This is not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they on hormon I know, I know, I know several.

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<v Speaker 3>I know of several girls who have had breast removal surgery,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know a ton of kids who are on

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<v Speaker 3>hormone therapies that will do do long term damage. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>mine you that may or may not be the right

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<v Speaker 3>thing for them, But when they're doing it before their

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<v Speaker 3>age of consent, I do worry on their behalf. My

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<v Speaker 3>biggest worry about the trans movement is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not that.

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<v Speaker 3>What I worry about is the attack on truth and

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<v Speaker 3>the attack on free speech.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's assume we're talking about adults here.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's forget about the indoctrination, which I think is certainly

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<v Speaker 3>happening in schools. But assume that you know, some thirty

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<v Speaker 3>year old guy wants to identifies as she.

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<v Speaker 2>More power to him.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean that as sincerely as possible. But that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean that I have to call that person she,

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<v Speaker 3>because objectively, his chromosomes haven't changed, his genitals haven't changed.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still a man. He's a man who thinks he's

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<v Speaker 3>a woman, and that's fine. But the truly fascist movement

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<v Speaker 3>that is the trans movement will punish you if you're

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<v Speaker 3>not using the right speed. And so House Bill was

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<v Speaker 3>at twelve thirteen twelve is now making it an act

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<v Speaker 3>of discrimination to misgender somebody. So by law, I am

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<v Speaker 3>forced to use to lie, and more accurately, people in

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<v Speaker 3>work situations have to lie to keep their jobs or

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<v Speaker 3>also they'll be sent up to HR for using the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong pronouns. And that's what I find so repugnant about

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<v Speaker 3>this movement is that it attacks our free speech and

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<v Speaker 3>tries to dictate how we should think.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether any government that controls speech, is in any movement

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<v Speaker 3>that punishes people for the words.

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<v Speaker 2>They use, I think is a danger. Am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 9>In a work environment, you don't truly have freedom of speech.

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<v Speaker 9>You can call out homosexual, transgender person, someone on their

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<v Speaker 9>race who can't get away with any of those things

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<v Speaker 9>in a word.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at look at Jack Phillips.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys like Jack Phillips, and Jack Phillips almost lost his

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<v Speaker 3>business because of speech controls. That's wrong. And people, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand if it's a if it's a company, and

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<v Speaker 3>you got to do what the company says, but think

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<v Speaker 3>about the position you are putting a person in when

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<v Speaker 3>you say, in this company, we refer to these men

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<v Speaker 3>as women.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't, you'll get fired.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got to choose between telling the truth, lying

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<v Speaker 3>and feeding your family. You've got to choose should I

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<v Speaker 3>should I lie? And I got to go home tonight

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<v Speaker 3>and tell my kid not to lie. But I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to work and I am lying in order to keep

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<v Speaker 3>my job. That just destroys people's minds and souls. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is it is wrong. Yeah, I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>When you answer the phone, you're gonna say hello, welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to iHeart, and that's what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't, you're gonna get fired.

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<v Speaker 3>But to deny reality and be forced to do that

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<v Speaker 3>as a matter of employment, I think is devious and dangerous.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, if you were a spouse in a flat

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<v Speaker 8>earth theory or something along those lines in a real

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<v Speaker 8>contentious and.

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<v Speaker 9>An aggressive way at work, it would show negatively against

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<v Speaker 9>you and you would probably you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's exactly what the Trans movement to get is.

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<v Speaker 3>The Trans movement is a flat earth theory. They're saying

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<v Speaker 3>that people with x Y chromosomes don't have x y chromosomes.

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<v Speaker 8>That is, they don't feel like they're in the right body.

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<v Speaker 8>You're talking different things.

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<v Speaker 3>You're done right, right, But here's the thing, Yes, they

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<v Speaker 3>feel like they're in the I agree with that. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not the issue. The issue is controlling my speech. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like saying, hey, this is Bob. Bob thinks

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<v Speaker 3>he's a woman. Great, that's a descriptive. But to say

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<v Speaker 3>she makes me lie. It makes me have to accept

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<v Speaker 3>somebody else's belief structure, that his belief of who he

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<v Speaker 3>is Trump's my belief of what language should be and

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<v Speaker 3>what reality is. Why does his right to his delusion

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<v Speaker 3>trump my right to free speech?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd like an answer to that.

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<v Speaker 9>This is about being civil in society and especially in

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<v Speaker 9>a workplace. You have to be civil to your people.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know what if you have somebody that's not

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<v Speaker 8>making it away?

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<v Speaker 9>Like I said, what about what?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait?

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<v Speaker 9>Whoa whoa?

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<v Speaker 6>Whoa?

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa? What about that person? What?

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<v Speaker 3>What about that person being civil to me? Don't I

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<v Speaker 3>have some expectation of being respected as well? What about

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<v Speaker 3>my right to be who I am?

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<v Speaker 2>And I am a person?

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<v Speaker 3>When I see one person cannot say they because they're

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<v Speaker 3>not two of them?

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<v Speaker 2>What gives Why is it that they.

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<v Speaker 3>Have that right and I have to bow to their sensitivities.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have to bow to my sensitivities, which is

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<v Speaker 3>free speech. I'm not saying you cannot, you cannot identify

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<v Speaker 3>as a woman. I'm not saying that. I'm saying you

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<v Speaker 3>cannot force my speech. Why do they Why does their

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<v Speaker 3>sensitivity trump my right to free speech? And yes, you

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<v Speaker 3>say civil because there are two there are only two

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<v Speaker 3>responses to this. If you refuse to use the words

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<v Speaker 3>we choose. You are either mean or you are ignorant. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm neither mean or a right. So give me a

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<v Speaker 3>quick answer, because I got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Why, Why does? Why does? Why does? And heng on?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get the question out.

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<v Speaker 3>Why does their sensitivity trump my right of free speech?

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<v Speaker 8>There's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 9>Words around religion, race, sexuality, things like that that you

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<v Speaker 9>cannot use in public.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not an answer. Let me try it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a protected right to say anything I want.

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<v Speaker 3>About race, religion, and anything else, and I can be

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<v Speaker 3>judged for that as being a jerk. Answer the question directly,

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<v Speaker 3>why does their sensitivity trump my right to free speech?

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<v Speaker 9>Your right to free speech does not let you do it.

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<v Speaker 9>Your musically have the right to lose your job if

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<v Speaker 9>you use it the wrong way?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Why is there a law saying I cannot have

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<v Speaker 3>free speech? Tell me why there's a law about misgendering,

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<v Speaker 3>which means that I have to take away my free

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<v Speaker 3>speech for their sensitivity.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me why that should be.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, that's the same thing. There's a lot of laws

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<v Speaker 9>to it about using certain racial speech that you can't

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<v Speaker 9>use in public.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a law, of course, you can do. I have

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<v Speaker 3>every right to use every racial slur I.

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<v Speaker 8>Like you can, but then you can't work there anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about work. Try this again. Focus, Focus, Focus.

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<v Speaker 3>We just passed a law on the state legislature saying

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<v Speaker 3>misgendering is a hate crime. That is an act of

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<v Speaker 3>legal discrimination. The government says, I cannot use those words.

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<v Speaker 3>So why is their sensitivity now legally trumps my right

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<v Speaker 3>to free speech? Tell me why that is correct and

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<v Speaker 3>why that's right. Focus on the question.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm feeling your I'm feeling your question.

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<v Speaker 3>You're giving an answer it, but it's the freaking law.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer it. The laws and the.

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<v Speaker 9>Way they're set up.

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<v Speaker 8>You could say anyone by yourself and your family with

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<v Speaker 8>a bunch of fellow traveler.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so my right to free speech in public has

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<v Speaker 3>now been curtailed. Why don't you just say that this

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<v Speaker 3>is a vicious violation of the First Amendment and it

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<v Speaker 3>is offensive to everything.

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<v Speaker 2>We hold.

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<v Speaker 9>Because there is no absolute right to free spae, all right,

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<v Speaker 9>So we can control what other people say, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>So when I get enough people and we pass the

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<v Speaker 3>law saying that you cannot use the word African American,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to use the N word then you'll be

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<v Speaker 3>okay with that too, for the same reason I got

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<v Speaker 3>a break. But you need to take these things turn

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<v Speaker 3>them one hundred and eighty degrees, and if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>support it going the other way, then you know a

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<v Speaker 3>law is immoral.

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<v Speaker 2>Back after this.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplis show podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Really is frustrating, and you see it when the cognitive

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<v Speaker 3>dissident that happens around free speech and the trans issue.

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<v Speaker 3>He could not answer why the law should be that

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<v Speaker 3>a trans person's sensitivity trumps my right to free speech,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he started speaking some errors. Well you can't

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<v Speaker 3>say racist stuff. No, there's no law that says you

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<v Speaker 3>can't say racist stuff. In fact, there's a freaking amendment

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<v Speaker 3>that says you can. The ACLU went to court to

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<v Speaker 3>protect neo Nazis, ridiculous racists thoughts and their right to

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<v Speaker 3>express them.

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<v Speaker 2>But here in Colorado, misgendering is a crime.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so wrong in any liberal person, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>that in the classic way should be offended by this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>And my one hundred and eighty degree test is, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what if it went the other way, What if a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of people said no, no, no, you cannot use

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<v Speaker 3>this term. You have to use the N word instead,

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<v Speaker 3>even though it offends people. Well, then our last caller

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<v Speaker 3>would have to accept that gratefully because.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the law. Say no, no, no, that's not the

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<v Speaker 2>way this works.

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<v Speaker 3>I find this highly offensive, and I'm tired of being

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<v Speaker 3>called anti trans when I'm very pro trans. Just give

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<v Speaker 3>me my right to free speech and leave our kids alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see if we can sneak in, Jerry.

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry, we got like thirty seconds, so you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to make it really.

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<v Speaker 7>Fast, okay, John, A couple of things. So your last

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<v Speaker 7>caller said that there were not many surgeries for trans

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<v Speaker 7>surgery for cosmetic or esthetics. There's three clinics just in

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<v Speaker 7>Cherry Creek that averaged two surgeries a day. So just

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<v Speaker 7>those clinics in Cherry Creek gold are two thousand. The

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<v Speaker 7>majority of those surgeries are under eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>That is dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, my last column, and you can read

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<v Speaker 3>it on Complete Colorado, is now we have to pay

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<v Speaker 3>for those surgeries, but straight people don't. So in other words,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're trans, you get this for free. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>not trans, you have to pay for your own cosmetic surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>Go figure the fairness there. I'm John Caldera. Keep it here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on KHW
