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Speaker 1: What's going on? Welcome to another episode of The Crime

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Payers of Botany Doesn't Podcast. This is Tony. I'm back

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in South Texas in the border lands, after just going

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on tour for three weeks. Me and I want on

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a little Roust Belt tour. It was on the road

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for three goddamn weeks. Went up to h I took

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my time getting back down here too, which was nice.

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Went through Arkansas, Goddamn Western Arkansas has a lot of

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nice stuff, a lot of nice stuff, and I watch

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it tall mountains. Wish I had more time to explore there. Vernonia, Lettermanny,

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I had no evaculate endemic, a river scoured novaculated endemic.

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No evaculate, of course, is just basically biogenic silica. It's

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mud composed of the bodies of radiolarians and diatoms, which

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are single celled plankton that build their shells out of glass,

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out of silica, and then they accumulate at depth in

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the ocean, and these thick beds of mud which later

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lithify and turned to stone in this case turning into novaculate.

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That was a fucking cool habitat to see. So these

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this river side novaculate deposits, probably because you know, the

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area is so lush. The entire eastern half of the

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country is so lushed since it gets more rain. Again,

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if you look at a satellite map, the hundredth meridian

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is where the content starts to dry out as you

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move west. That these it's so lush that these, you know,

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river scoured areas are the only places you get to

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barren novaculate where plants like Amsonia who brick the eye,

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and Vernonia letter mannii. And there's another Sylphium species there

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like a I think it's undescribed. My friend Adam is

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gonna hopefully work on it and describe it. But they

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grow on these, you know, basically out of cracks in

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this novaculate rock. This smooth shirt and evaculate kind of

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looks like shirt. But that was a fucking cool site. Man.

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I was just man, I was rolling in it. I

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was just having such a good time coming down living

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in the truck, even though I had poison ivy all

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over my legs torso and mildly on my balls but

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not that bad on my balls. And it went away

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pretty quick, I think because I I knew I got it.

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I stopped at a hotel and texts Sarcana shout out

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to the uh, what is it? What was it? The

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Crepit Hotel. It was really not. It was really kind

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of rough in there. It was I'll be honest, there

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was a working person's hotel. But I felt good about

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staying there. It's definitely not the place they're gonna throw

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you out when they find out you snuck in two dogs,

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not just the one you have the phony service animal

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car for. Well, it's not phony, but Louis's actually a

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service animal. She is registered service animal, and she's been

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trained and behaves amazingly. But I don't really have a

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condition that necessitates having a service animal aside from being

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fucking nuts. Okay, I'm fucking nuts. That's gonna be if

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I ever get shaken down an airport or something for

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the service animal thing. And they just they're like, you know,

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you don't need that. I'm just gonna break out into

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a hysterical rant about how I'm fucking nuts. I'm fucking

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nuts anyway. But they shout out to the hotel in

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texts arcana because they were really a commonating there. You

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could tell it's like the hotel. It was like Windom Garden.

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I think it's Windom Garden in text Arcana, but half

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the people at the Windom Garden in Textarkana you can tell,

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actually live inside there. It was cool in a way. Man,

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It was like you know, because they were friendly. It

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was they were friendly people living there. But it was

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kind of rough. You know, text Arcana is a little rough.

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But I went in there. I got the Don Dish

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soap slatter that shit all over my legs. Got any

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you Rushi? All that was on my legs off and

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this is you Rushia? All that quite likely went through

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my pants. I was wearing jeans. I was wearing just

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some fucking Dicky's jeans, Like I'm kind of loose fitting.

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You know. That's the key in the heat is you

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want like you wear an excel, you wear a shirt

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size bigger than you are, heavy cotton. Make sure it's

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bigger than you are so it's not tight, so you

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get some airflow. But at the same time it's wicking

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up the sweat and it's keeping the sun off of

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your skin so you're not getting burned. It's really you know,

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those those guys, the uh the guys are over there

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and Middle East. You know the sheepherders with the big

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white robes and stuff. They they know what they're doing.

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I can't believe. I don't the bedoon know who's that.

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I don't know what the fuck I'm making it. I'm

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making an American of myself. My sense of geography is.

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I mean, I think I have a pretty decent sense

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of geography for being a fucking American. I've been on

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five continents and I'm always looking at mass but still

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I should know about the sheepherders that were at along

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s white robes. Anyway, the point is I went in

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there and I wiped the fucking you rush you off

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myself with this don dish soap in the shower, and

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I think that cut the That cut in half the

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time that I would have been itching and rashing, you know,

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because I've gotten it earlier that day at the lighton

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Area Pelosi. Spot Light and Area Pelosa is in Simaru Basi.

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The Alantis family, the Castilla family, if you know the

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genus Castilla, and it's uh Lightnary. Pelosi is known as

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Corkwood and there was a there's Corkwood Conservation Area on

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the Missouri Arkansas border Adam Black told me about the spot.

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I went in there and fuck, you could see the trees.

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It's so cool. They look like mangroves. They're normally growing

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in inundated areas in water. But the water I don't

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know if the area is in a drawer right now

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or what. There was no water, it was just mud,

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but they've got those inflated bases, and I wanted to

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go see him, and there was just God, there was

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Rexia there too, that cool melostone, you know it was

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I think it was Rexia virginica. And then I saw

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another Rexia species later on. But you had to walk

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through all this poison ivy to get there. And I

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was like, ah, fuck, man, really all right, fuck it,

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I'm just gonna do it. And it's gonna be on

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my boots and my pants, but it's not gonna get

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on my legs. Well, that shit made it through the Russia, obviously,

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sitting in a car, made it through the pants and

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started interacting. Started, you know, my skin started absorbing it,

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and I started getting that itch. You know, it feels

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like an itch like it starts off feeling like someone's

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taking a hair and like tickling your skin and then

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when you feel that you got a few hours until

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your break it out in a full out rash. And

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that's how do you rush? He all works, you know,

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your immune system starts picking it up. Is a mild

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irritation at first. Next thing you know, you're breaking out

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in the fucking rash and you can't help but want

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to just go stand under hot water in a shower

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and just feel the ecstasy of having those itches finally.

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Uh scratched. So anyway, that was that was that, but

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it went away. It didn't last too long, thank god.

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I thought, I gotta I got I get poison ivy

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so bad. I keep a dose of presn zone around that.

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I got a pharmacy in Mexico just to uh, just

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in case, you know, in case it gets really bad.

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this is all shit. You don't have to worry about

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in the West and half of the country as much.

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You know, siggers. You don't get schiggers out west that bad,

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thank god. Uh, you get poison oak, but it's in

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the desert is generally not too bad anyway. But yeah, man,

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Arkansas was just loaded. And then there was I saw

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the genus elephant Topis again which I hadn't seen in

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a while, which is it's in the composite family. It's

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an Astaeci, it's got purple heads. It's in vernonioid subfamily,

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which is a huge family in Brazil. Uh. And it's

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the family the subfamily. Rather, it's not family, subfamily, the

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subfamily of the iron weeds, which we get of course

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in you know, from Texas you get Vernonia Larceni and LENNHEIMERII,

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which are both kind of wooly. Larceni is fucking insane.

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That's the one you get in like the West Texas Desert,

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the beginning of where the Edwards Plateau starts, descending into

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the Chiuahua Desert, in places like Sanderson, What a lovely town,

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Sanderson Motels and Neon signs. But uh, but you know,

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you get the iron weeds, uh in what was it

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like Missouricha and uh, Vernonia Missourika and Vernonia fasciculata and

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some of the other ones you get up in in

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the Midwest, in the Chicago area. But anyway, elephant Topas

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is in that same subfamily, and of course Vernonia letter

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up Manni had that no vaculated endemic I just mentioned,

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But Elephantopis is. It's cool. I didn't realize. I hadn't

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seen it in a few years. But it's got it's sincephalus.

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It's got a head of heads. So you've got a

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bunch of tiny purple flowers aggregated together in a single capitulum,

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and then you've got a bunch of those capitula later on,

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you know, in the next world down aggregated together and

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then subtended by three leafy bracts. So it looks it

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ends up looking like you know, from far away, you'd

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think it was in ruby ac you think it's like

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one of those how Stonia relatives or scenario relatives, or

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you'd think it would be like some kind of mint

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like you think the inflorescence almost looks like a verticilast,

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like a whirl you know, like you see on like

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a mint stem or a salvia stem, like some of

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the salvias do that too, you know, same thing. It's

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a vertiicilast or a bunch of tiny flowers aggregated together

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whirling around the stem like that Pynanthemum virginica. Same thing.

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So it was cool to see that. I hadn't seen

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that in a while. So I ended up I ended

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up going to another spart spot in Arkansas on the

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way down. Uh what was it? Someone wrote me from it.

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They were kind of mad because I talked about how

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it needs to burn. I think they took it personally

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and I was like, I put up like an Instagram

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video where I mentioned, like, god, I just this, you know,

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this all needs to burn, like this is they They

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had a photograph on the little informational kiosk of what

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the spot looks like after a burn, you know, and

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it was understory of ferns. It was like a savannah

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understory of ferns, some scattered trees. Really nice but you know,

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a really nice place to hang out. But then what

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it looked like when I was there, it was dense

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and I had mentioned in a video like you know,

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it needs to burn. Whatever it's hasn't been managed for fire.

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They haven't been burning. And I think someone who I

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didn't know, someone who manages the site, wrote me it

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was like I'm really They were like really sad that

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I I was like, I wasn't bad mouthing you guys's work.

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I said, it needs to burn, that's all. I don't

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I don't know the nuances, who's managing this place or whatever.

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I'm sure it's fucking great. And you know, you guys

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are probably have your own you're restricted by funding or

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lack of funding whatever. So uh but anyway, this spot

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was cool. I went there to see. I went there

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to see, uh, Liatrius hesper alagance, which is a type

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of blazing star that's got what is it. What's the

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common name of shooting star, blazing star? I don't know,

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what's the common name of lantris. I don't know. I

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was blazing stars meant zelia out west as well, But anyway, uh,

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it's a fucking dope species. Looks incredible. It's like this

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tall fuck It wasn't flowering yet, but it's this tall

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spike of flowers, just really showy ornate flower heads with

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really cool looking fieries on the side. You know, it's

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a liatrius alone are always fucking cool to see. I

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wish we got some on the western half of the country,

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as far west as I've seen it as Colorado, And

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I think, what is that punk tata out there? And

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you get a you get a variety of punk Tatah

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Interlingua by by Big Bend in the West Texas Desert.

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But that's really kind of it. I think, like the

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western plains and then down there in the Big Bend

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region is the only spy you get Latrus out west.

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It's normally normally an Eastern genus, but god, they're all

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fucking great. Look Lyatris bridgesy I is the one of

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the coolest ones I've seen, just fucking wild. The fileries

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are working as floral attract and it's the fieries are

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working as petals because these are generally flower heads or

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not petals legules. These are generally flower heads that don't

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have legules. I think most Lyatris are discoid. So I

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wanted to see liatris hesparella gans because it's just these

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dense It looks like the whole inflorescence looks like a

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pipe cleaner. You know, it's just these these dense clusters

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of flower heads. But it wasn't going off. But yeah,

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bridgesy I. If you can look up bridgesy I after

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Bridges some fucking dead guy named Bridge apparently, or Bridges.

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Look that one up. That's I think that's primarily East Texas.

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It's the only spot I've seen it. But holy hell,

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that thing's incredible. Miller County sand Hills. That was the spot.

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Miller County sand Hills and beautiful. There's the sand Hill

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Assembly of God Church. In case you get a in

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case you get a hankering from some from for some

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Jesus while you're down there. Uh, Miller County sand Hills

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just south of Texas Arcana by like twenty minutes down

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everybody to the Louisiana Texas Arkansas state line. Okay, closer

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to Shreveport. Yeah, I kept seeing signs for Shreveports. Guy,

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go with the Whalon Jennings, you know, put some Whalen on.

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I fancy Whalen's. I'd like some of that classic country.

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It's a cool spot though, so it's it, but it's

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sand Hills, but it is. It does need to fucking

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burn so many places. When any so many places I

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go to in the eastern half of the country, I

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realize how important fire is. I want to burn everything.

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I see the understory. I want to light it on fire.

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Early spring, lay fall, I want to burn it. Gets

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rid of the ticks, gets rid of the chiggers, gets

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rid of a lot of them, it's not going to

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get rid of all of them. And also clears out

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all that dense understore. You get so much rain in

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these places that to me being out being used to

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being out west where everything gets so dry in the

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summer and everything's at risk of a wildfire. And I'm

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generally used to botanizing in deserts and area to areas. Anyway,

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I see all that shit, all that fuel, and I

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just realized, Man, it's like I want to I want

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to clear it out, you know. I think that's I

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think that's just part of our species. Those are the

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habitats we prefer. We prefer more open areas, if anything,

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for all the bugs and ticks and sugars, especially that

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you get when it's just dense, you know. And I

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was looking at one of these, one of these. I

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was looking at Miller Counter Miller County sand Hills. Actually

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I was looking at the forest there and I'm like, fuck,

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this needs to burn so bad. I was at the

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at the light and area Pelosis Spot Corkwood Conservation Area

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in southern Missouri. Man, Missouri's got some weird vibes. Southern

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Missouri it does not feel like a friendly spot. Holy shit.

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It was like, ah, whole time I was there, I

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kept being like, thank God, I'm not black in this area.

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Fucking hell. You know, get a little bit too much

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melanin in your skin, you get up put on some list.

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The fucking copsule ro anyway, but uh, and I did

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get rolled. I already got rolled there. And it was

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funny too. The cop was I will get to the

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point eventually, but the cop it was somewhere in Missouri

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and he stopped me, and he goes. He sees the

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Texas place and he's like, oh. He's like, where you're

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coming from? Like Chicago. He's like, oh, where you're going.

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I'm like, I'm going back to Texas. He's like, oh,

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it's a good place to be leaving from and going to.

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It's you know, Lee leaving Chicago head of the Texas.

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That's a good It was just, you know, in my mind,

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I'm like, just really, really, have you ever been to Chicago?

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Do you know anything about it? Have you ever spent

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time there? It's actually pretty nice, got a lot of

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walkable streets, got decent public transportation. The food will kill you,

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but it's delicious. Have you ever tried it? Like? What

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are you just being indoctrinated? You know, like everybody, everybody's

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just being indoctrinated by by social media, by the culture war.

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Like God, just settle down, just fucking take it easy.

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But he let me off with a warning. But it's

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funny though too. When I'm in those situations, like when

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the cops said that, I was like, oh, yeah, absolutely,

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Like I'm not gonna I want him to think that,

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I you know that I'm agreeing with them, like I'm

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an infiltrator. I want him to I want to fucking

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leave that situation without any heat. I'm trying to you know,

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you get the criminal mindset. You want to just you know,

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you want to get away. You want to get away

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with it, you want to get away. I'm not gonna

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fucking argue with the cop, you know and his uh,

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his fifty years of indoctrination with Fox News or whatever

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the shit. Just like yeah, all right, man, whatever, just yeah,

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you're right, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, definitely definitely feels better to

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be going back to Texas that I thirty five quarter

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between Austin and San Antonio that's just filled with fucking

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billboard there's personal injury attorney billboards, car dealer ships, parking lots,

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strip malls, you know, fifteen lanes of highway with frontage

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roads that also feel like the highway. I can't wait

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to get back there exactly. Yeah, you read my mind.

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The officer, thank you. Feel so it's safer here. Those

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good damn those libs. Uh but uh anyway, so but

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the this sand Hill Prairie conservation what is it Miller

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County Sandhills was just uh, was just dense. And the

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same thing with that spot the Corkwood Conservation area where

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I saw light in area Pelosa, Like you look at

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the forest there because there was a there's like a

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little turnaround at that Corkwood Conservation area where you pull in.

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It's like a little cul de sac. You see the

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road and they got a gate across this dirt road

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that just goes into the conservation area and the fucking

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road is just overgrown to shit. Like there's just saw beautiful.

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Uh what was it? Aurelia spinosa, like a giant one

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in flower. The flower had the inflorescence is like six

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feet tall, three feet I you know, hundreds of tiny

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white flowers. Looks like a giant nolina flowering or something

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beautiful fucking plant. But uh, you know, I looked at

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the forest there and I was like, I don't want

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to go on that. There's fucking poison ivy, it's all overgrown.

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There's fucking probably ticks and sigers everywhere. Like, I just

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want to burn it, you know, I want to wait

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till fall, till the nice season. You get a windy

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you get a day when it's not very windy, it's

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a little damp, and you set it all on fire.

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And that's good. And that's what you know Native people

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were probably doing for thousands of years. I mean, we

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know they were doing over thousands of years. And before

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Native people were here, you know, fifteen twenty, thirty thousand

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years ago, it was fire. It was lightning doing it.

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And that's that's the way it is. I mean, the

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fire suppression out east blows my mind. It's so crazy. Man.

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You need fire in these every one of these fucking habitats.

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I mean, that's that's a way of cleansing out all

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the dead material. You know, it's not gonna it can't

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break down fast enough. You've got to burn. Uh. But man,

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sand Prairie was the magic words sand hills. And there's

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sand all over these areas because it's all been river deposited.

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There's so many river systems there that and they've been

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meandering back and forth so much like how did the

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sand at that sand hill? Normally you can figure out

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what river system dumped it to by looking at a map.

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You know it's because I mean, sand either gets to

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these places because it weather, it's out of sandstone, or

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it's blown in. Like if the base rock is sandstone,

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which I don't think it was here, it's all limestone,

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but double check, I might be wrong. I didn't. I

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didn't look. But in most of the Midwest it's it's

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the base rock, the parent rock. The country material is limestone.

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The country rock is limestone, or it's either it's so

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it's either whether that of sandstone, wind blown eolian or

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or river deposited. It's the only way that the sand

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gets to these places. So the spot I went to

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in Cape Girardo, which I pronounced Cape Girardo. The fuck

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is with everyone in Missouri mispronouncing their own cities names.

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That's not how that's how you pronounced it New Madrid,

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they pronounced it Madrid. That's not how you say. It's

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not how you say Madrid. It's not Madrid. You know,

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it's like New Yorker's in Houston. Houston, but uh, anyway,

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It'll always be Houston to me. But yeah, that that

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San Prairie south of Cape Girardo, that was such a

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fucking cool spot because I was I was sitting there

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looking at a map and trying to figure out why

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the fuck there's what looks like a mesa just south

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of Cape Girardo, Missouri, and then realized, oh wow, this this,

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this shit had been cut, basically cut, and that that's

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an old river bed had been cut by the river.

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You know, how are many millions of years ago? Holy shit?

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And today the river is like ten miles east of

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that location. It's so cool to think about it. I mean,

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you look at all these river systems in the central

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US and it's you know, it's fucking so cool to

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think about, you know, a fluvial geo morphology. Almostly these

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nice But yeah, how did the sand get there at

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that Miller County sand Hills spot? I don't know, but

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I want to go back. I want to go back

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for more because in those sandy sites. That's where you

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end up finding all the cool, all the cool drought

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power plants, all the more dry adapted plants. You know,

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these sandals act like a little biogeographical island, a micro

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site surrounded by the more music and denser forest, you know,

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because it takes a lot to grow on sand, you know.

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Like that's the spot near Cape Girardo, which I think

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what was that called sand Hill Sand Prairie Conservation Area. Yeah,

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Sand Prairie Conservation Area. That was a fucking great site

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to be That was, Man, it was so cool, you know,

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and and go to go look it up, look it

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up on on Google Maps, and then put it into

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terrain mode and look up. Look at the you could

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see I mean, there's like you could see where the

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river cut through. Like look at Cape Girardo today. The

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river goes south of Cape Girardo and then flows east

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and then cuts a little hole in this massive rock

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that runs generally southwest to northeast south of Cape Girardo.

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Not massive rock. It's like hilly. It's like hilly areas.

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It's hills. Basically, I'm guessing the base rock is limestone. Okay,

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I had to double check this I'm using the rocked

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app roc KD. You should download this and look at

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It's fucking great. It's such a useful app. Man really

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gives you cut some context of what you're standing on. Yeah.

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So the rock there, I'm looking at it, it's TAM's group.

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It's roughly four hundred and twenty three to three hundred

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and ninety three million years ago. Stratigraphic names are bailey limestone,

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flat gap limestone, grassy knob, hirt, backbone limestone, et cetera.

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And so that's that's part of the rock. And then

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what is this stuff over here? Saint Peter's sandstone Everton Formation. Oh,

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so it might be it is old sandstone. So there

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is sandstone in south of Cape Girardo, so maybe some

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of that sand has been weathered out of there. But actually, no,

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it wasn't, because I remember looking at the sand itself

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on that sand Prairie conservation area south of Cape Girardo, Missouri,

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and seeing that it's a lot of it isn't even sand.

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It's like large grained pebbles. It looks like river deposited pebbles,

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the same stuff you'd see on a Mississippi River beach.

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But uh, I'll tell you what, though, I want to

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spend a lot more time in that area. It looks

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like there's tons of cool shit. The culture there's kind

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of bleak. You know, got some mean stairs. I got

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a mean old Caucasian ladies stare or three. You know.

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If someone drives by and his yeah, they look at

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you that like that, I just shit myself pouting face

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like you wave to them and they're just nah. They

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don't say anything like all right, Well, that's nice to

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see you too. Maybe I'll take you out to Denny's. Huh.

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I don't even think do they have a Denny's in Capere.

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Who's ever crashed the Dennis in Cape Girardo? Who's ever

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closed the Dennis in Cape Girardo? Right, spent twenty four

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hours in there. It was a lot easier to do

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when you could smoke. I guess, huh oh wow. Look

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at rocked Look at west the Cape Girardo. These pink

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scattered formations that looks really fucking cool. What is that?

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Most of it's been eroded, but there's you can still

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see the top layer of this pink formation. Saint Francois

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Mountains Volcanic Supergroup Age Miso Proterozoic sixteen hundred million years

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one point six billion years to one billion years. Stratigraphic

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name tom Sack group, Butler Hill group. What is tom

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thaum suck? Description chiefly alkali rhyolitic ash flow tufts, lava

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flows and god damn, that's cool. But keep in mind

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all this stuff, because it's in the Midwest, is beneath

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a lot of vegetation, so it's not gonna be like

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in the desert. That's what's so nice about deserts. You

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go to the deserts, you could just see the fucking

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naked rocks. You know, the rocks are already naked for it.

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There's no pesky plants to get in the wake. It's

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a lot easier to get context if you're in If

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you're looking at geology in the Midwestern East coast, you

462
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got to go to a road cut, a railroad cut,

463
00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:14,240
or a river. That's what cuts through this stuff. But

464
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,000
definitely check out San Prairie Conservation area south of Cape Girardo,

465
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,880
and certainly check out the Crisp Museum. Go visit my

466
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,160
friends in a Crisp museum. What was her name, Helen Ellen?

467
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,279
I don't know. She was a really nice lady. She

468
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,839
was really chill about bringing the dogs inside. You know,

469
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,839
because Jack's fifteen, he's old. He's an old man. I

470
00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:34,799
can't leave him in a car. He's got heart issues.

471
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,519
And plus they don't like to be alone. And anyways,

472
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:42,599
it's Chris Museum is really cool. They got a cool

473
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,920
natural history section. Kohokia Mounds is around that area. All

474
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,119
these Mississippian cultures. You know, that's another thing I wish

475
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,519
I knew more about. God damn these cultures that were

476
00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:58,720
building fucking pyramids a thousand years ago, fifteen hundred years ago.

477
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,759
When did they go out? I think in like the

478
00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:02,799
twelve hundreds. Why did they go out? I don't know,

479
00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:06,839
like why did their civilizations collapse? You know what else

480
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,480
has a good, good exhibit on some of those early

481
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,319
early Native American cultures was Field Museum. I guess there

482
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:22,000
were there were really complex cultures analogous to like, you know,

483
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,880
Mayan An Aztec cultures in Ohio, in fucking Ohio. You know,

484
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,599
you drive through Ohio now and it's just land of

485
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,680
mean honkies. Actually that was a cool thing to when

486
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,759
we were going through central Ohio. Me and l I

487
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:39,240
got i get. Ohio scares me sometimes, you know, it does.

488
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,039
I'll just be honest, it does. I've had bad experiences

489
00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:46,079
in Ohio. I've I got stuck there once after getting

490
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:48,759
off a freight train that I took from Little Ferry,

491
00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:52,359
New Jersey, it took a turn in Deshler, Ohio and

492
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,519
started heading south. Was that the name? I should look

493
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:56,079
this up because that was a That was a fucking

494
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,519
wild experience. People were still cool, but also they were

495
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:03,839
cool with me. But also I didn't have neck tattoos yet.

496
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,319
And it was before all like the heavy culture war

497
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,880
stuff started popping up in America and like Tea Party

498
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,920
US versus them, the Libs are trying to fucking indoctrinate

499
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,000
our kids, like all that shit. Like this is like

500
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:19,599
two thousand and five, you know, I think, like all

501
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,480
the team remember all that tea party shit started like

502
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:24,400
two thousand and eight, and that's when things really the

503
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:29,440
culture war really ramped up, all this dumb shit. And

504
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,160
then now it's just both sides are just fixated on

505
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:35,599
culture war. You know, they tend to think they're right.

506
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,319
Is obviously a little more insane, but I'm definitely not

507
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,200
a centrist. But uh, you know, the fucking I've definitely

508
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:47,440
seen a lot of fucking crazy, uh, coming from all

509
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,000
all around, you know, coming at you from all angles. Yeah. Yeah,

510
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:55,640
it was Deshler, Ohio. I got trapped in Deshler, Ohio overnight.

511
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,880
That was a fun experience, though it ended up being spooky.

512
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:01,480
It was definitely and you know one of those moments

513
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,559
where you're like, we just don't fucking talk about religion

514
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,240
or politics. If I don't talk about religion or politics

515
00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:10,160
with these guys, we can we could chill. But I went.

516
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:12,039
They had like a little rail fan park, you know,

517
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,039
like these like older, generally Caucasian men who are really

518
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,599
into trains, but like photographing them, not like riding them

519
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,119
or or you know, using them for free transfer or

520
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,000
anything like that. And so I had had the and

521
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,440
I had my bike with me too. So and my

522
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,720
bike had got in a flat. It was all fucked up. No,

523
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:34,000
I think I fucked up the actual I don't know

524
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,319
either way. I had to get off this train because

525
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:36,920
it was going south not west. I was trying to

526
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,240
go back to Chicago. I got off hung out in

527
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:42,319
Deshler overnight, and I had my bike with me, so

528
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,119
they didn't think I was hitchhiking. I told them I

529
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,039
was just riding my bike, and so that obviously if

530
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:49,720
I told them I was hitchhiking, they would have thought

531
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,480
I was, you know, a little more sketchy. Maybe, I

532
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,599
don't fucking know. Definitely, don't tell him you riding the train.

533
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,640
But I hung out overnight and they had this little

534
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,319
rail fan park in Deshler where you could listen. You

535
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,599
could listen to the scanner, you know, and hear like

536
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,200
what the conductor of a train is saying to the dispatcher.

537
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:12,079
And it was I think it was CSX was the

538
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,200
railroad company. But I ended up hanging out. They had

539
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,680
a little fire there that man, some of these dudes

540
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,599
were just like you could tell they weren't loaded like

541
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,880
they were just like working class dudes. One of them

542
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,400
was one of them was sleeping in his car with

543
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,799
his dog. You know. He was a really nice guy.

544
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:29,519
But one of them, you know, I told him that

545
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:31,720
I was riding my bike through I got a flat

546
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:33,400
or had a mechanical issue. So I was kind of

547
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,480
stuck there, and so I just hung out and didn't

548
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:40,119
volunteer too much information that would make them be wary

549
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,519
of me. But I just ended up hanging out with

550
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:44,759
them that night and we got along. It was chill,

551
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,319
and they one of them gave me a blanket. They

552
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,880
had these little lawnchairs stood up. I slept in this

553
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,160
this lawn chair around a fire. And then this one

554
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,599
guy was cool too. I remember he said it under

555
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:57,000
his breath, but he's like, man, if you're trying to

556
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,240
get to Chicago, is an or an Ohio accent whatever

557
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,359
that is, you know in like the cornfields, so a

558
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,960
little bit, you know, maybe a little bit of a

559
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,599
southern accent. There's something little bit of rural America, you know, uh,

560
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:14,680
the real America. It's God diam right. This guy was like,

561
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:19,319
there's a there's a there's a local that comes up

562
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,400
from the south whatever the big terminal was south that

563
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,319
takes this turn. Because that's the whole reason that Railfan

564
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,160
Park was there, was because it was like a diamond.

565
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,440
You know, you can go southwest or east, I think

566
00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:31,759
even go you go north too. It was a diamond.

567
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,599
So it was a big crossing of trains, a lot

568
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,480
of train traffic through there. This guy's like, there's a

569
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:38,400
train that comes up from the south. At about six am.

570
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:41,079
You could probably catch that and go, what's just cha?

571
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,960
Kinda like he kind of said it under his breath,

572
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,799
you know, and I was like, boom, that's it. That's

573
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:47,559
what I wanted. That's exactly what I'm trying to do, Sir.

574
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:50,920
I didn't say it, of course, but my heart skipped

575
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,599
a beat when he said that. I was like, fuck, yeah,

576
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:54,359
I can get out of here, because there's you know,

577
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,119
you can't hitchhike in Ohio, especially in a in a

578
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,359
dominant Anglo area. It's the way. And I'm not being

579
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:06,279
racist against white people. I'm just saying, you know, in

580
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:08,440
a dominant Anglo area, you're not gonna have luck getting

581
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,440
the fuck out of Ohio. You know, it's gonna be it. Well,

582
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,680
it depends too, I've had fucking you know, in other states,

583
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,319
I've had luck. It's it's a class thing. Obviously. I

584
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,200
feel like working class people are little bit more down

585
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,359
to help you out. But definitely in Ohio there is

586
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,279
an ara of like paranoia and suspicion. Maybe it's a

587
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,759
little bit a little bit of that heavy religious shit,

588
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:31,960
the flavor of the region, like that certain kind of

589
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,599
I don't know what the fuck it is. I can't

590
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:35,599
figure out I'm trying to say this without getting myself

591
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:39,480
in hot water with anybody, but there's definitely a fuck

592
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:42,599
you're gonna have trouble hitch I can in fucking northern Ohio.

593
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,200
So yeah, so I was like, fuck, yeah, okay, that's it.

594
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,519
So we just I ended up passing out. This other

595
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:52,240
dude passed out in his car. The other dudes that

596
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,960
were hanging out there left and he passed out in

597
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,240
his car with his dog, and I ended up hearing

598
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:01,240
that train coming at six in the morning. It was

599
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,000
foggy as hell, and I went and I hopped on it,

600
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,720
and I fucking wrote it threw Gary, Indiana into the

601
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,359
South side of Chicago and was so fucking happy to

602
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,920
not be in deshriller Ohio anymore. That said, when Al

603
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,759
and I were going through Ohio, which is the whole

604
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:17,799
reason I started talking about this fucking five minutes ago.

605
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,160
You listen for the disjointed rants sometimes some of you do.

606
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,000
I know you do. When I was going through When

607
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,680
we were driving through Ohio, Central Ohio, was expecting it

608
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,599
to be much the same flavor, which is kind of

609
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,680
scary when I'm in certain like certain areas of Missouri

610
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,119
or Ohio, and it's a dominant Caucasian vibe. I get

611
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,359
a little scared because there's certainly a paranoid, suspicious and

612
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:45,440
very turned up, very angry tone there. You know, the

613
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,200
culture where those people, many of them, have been manipulated

614
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,759
by the right wing media to be very very angry

615
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:54,359
about shit that either doesn't affect them or that is

616
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,839
not a threat to them in the first place. And

617
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,680
so it's fucking scary, you know. Plus you get the

618
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,440
whole weaker, you know, opioid epidemic thing. I'm really pigeonholing here.

619
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,160
I'm really getting myself in trouble. But anyway, but I

620
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,960
was I was excited to see that, like central Ohio

621
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:13,240
was mostly working class black, and I felt safer, I

622
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:19,240
felt more chill, I felt a more chill tone. So yeah, man,

623
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,920
Like we went through Columbus, we went through fuck man,

624
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,759
I forget where we were going through. We were we did.

625
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,000
I did a video on a very heinous bathroom gas

626
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,079
station bathroom we encountered. We had to, you know, it

627
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:31,319
was so filthy we had to make a three minute video.

628
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:34,359
I mean it was like that pungent, burning rotten egg

629
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,359
smell coming out of the floor drain, and that was

630
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,839
either in Ohio or or eastern Indiana, but either way,

631
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,799
I remember driving through there and I was like, oh,

632
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:46,720
this is not what I expected. Like, this is not

633
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,799
you know, this is not that it doesn't feel so

634
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,720
scarily red. It doesn't feel so frighteningly red, you know.

635
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,960
But uh yeah, but fucking fucking uh. Would have loved

636
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,599
to spend time in some more areas there. There's so

637
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,519
many places I went through. I wanted to come through

638
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:11,440
Indiana on the way down going back to Texas. There's

639
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,559
a bunch of cool shit there. Penstem In demii, really

640
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,720
cool penstemen. It's an endemic. It's like one of the

641
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:21,480
Indiana's only endemic plants, Penstemen demii, which flowers in May.

642
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:23,400
I was too late for it anyway, But there's you know,

643
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,519
and there's all these cool glades you know, which again

644
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,079
is just a dry micro site surrounded by more music.

645
00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:32,759
Woodland saw a really cool one in Joplin, Missouri. Speaking

646
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:36,160
of scary places, you know where people just seem turned up.

647
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,400
That's like, that's gonna be a spot where someone's gonna

648
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,680
roll cold by your ass. You know, someone's gonna like, uh,

649
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,440
some fucking angry pink dude in an oversized truck is

650
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,920
gonna scream at you when so the last time that happened,

651
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,359
that happened to me not too long ago, I'd have

652
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,119
a you know, it's kind of funny. You just used

653
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,480
having a fine time. Have you listened to a podcast?

654
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:02,400
And you're not going fast enough for somebody who's riding

655
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,720
your ass and a fucking guy just screams at you,

656
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,559
and he's like pink. He's got a big dipping and

657
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,119
a fucking bunch of Monster Energy drinks. He's all you know,

658
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,559
he's all rolled up on Monster Energy drinks and god

659
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:18,239
knows what else and just fucking rolls coal screams at you.

660
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,400
Maybe he calls you something, you know, but he's like

661
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,199
also pink too, Like he's kind of sunburnt and fucking

662
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,920
you know, you know, like that pink color. Anyway, Uh,

663
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,599
you know, I've got like the friends of Northern European

664
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,599
descent who turn kind of pink. You know, they got

665
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,280
to put a lot of sunscreen on. But by Joplin, Missouri,

666
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,960
where was that What was the name of that spot?

667
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,159
I gotta look this one up too. It was a

668
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,119
chert g LID. I did a video on it. Lyatris

669
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,760
Ersuda is there. Yeah, that was at Shoal Creek in Joplin.

670
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,519
That's a fucking cool spot. And I got a little

671
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:54,159
visitor center. Uh you get at that spot, they got

672
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,039
a little visitor center. It's not at the spot where

673
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:57,760
the actual glade is. The lady in there was super

674
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,679
fucking nice. You know. I think anyone who's into nature

675
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:04,760
at least in those areas is super fucking chill and

676
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,199
just stoked to have people around. But yeah, Shoal Creek

677
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,000
Visitors Center, shout out today. I'm over there at Shoal Creek.

678
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:15,239
They got a nice little educational area for the kids.

679
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,840
And then the glade, which is on the west side

680
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,400
of what's actual Shoal Creek there is fucking credible to

681
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:26,360
It's a shirt glade, so more of that biogenic silica,

682
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,280
and there's a punthia there. There's some cool solegendella there.

683
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,000
There's that liatris heerseudo, which is endemic to that region

684
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:38,599
like western Missouri on down into northern Louisiana. Does it

685
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:40,719
go up? And I would all I would assume probably

686
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:42,880
that was a really cool one to see. It's a

687
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,320
Liatris another Blazing Star or what is it? Shooting Star?

688
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,599
Let me look this up, like getting I'm turning into

689
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:53,360
a geriatric Italian already, like it is, I'm like fucking

690
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:58,440
acting twenty years older than I am. Yeah, yeah, blazing Star.

691
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:00,840
I don't use common names anyways, you shouldn't use don't

692
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,639
use common names. They're fucking you know, we've been through

693
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:05,960
this before. It's been five years. I've been doing this now.

694
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:08,079
You know common You can learn a common name. You

695
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:11,400
can just use the genus name instead. Latris, how many

696
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,559
letters you got there? Seven blazing Stars? What twelve? Thirteen?

697
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:18,559
Come on, Latris. You learn a genus, you learn other

698
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:21,960
species in that genus just by knowing that genus, and

699
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:26,199
you know, so there you go. Anyway, Uh, the taxonomy

700
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,400
is implied, the evolutionary relatedness is implied. But yeah, addresses

701
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:34,199
diatres arseudo was really cool. Looks like a big Thistlet's

702
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:39,760
got a big swollen flower head with these recurved fieries

703
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,079
that look kind of kind of spiky and folded, you know,

704
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,679
like convolute. But yeah, anyway, another cool plant that was

705
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,400
at that Shoal Creek area, That shirt glade was and

706
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,639
I just have a blast looking at the rocks. Man,

707
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:56,840
I'm like, what the fuck you got that conchoidal fracture

708
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,159
like you get with a lot of hirt, with a

709
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:01,559
lot of silica, silica baced rocks, you know, nice to

710
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,519
conchoidal fracture. Get to look at the texture of these

711
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:08,079
things to figure out what it is, you know, texture, feel,

712
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,760
how it fractures, et cetera. These Uh it's my little

713
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:18,239
geology primer for rock id. But there was Femoranthus calisinus there,

714
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:21,079
which was you know, the with I don't know the commonname,

715
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,840
flame flower, whatever the fuck it is. It's it's it's

716
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,559
in the bitterroot family monte ace so it's succulent. It's

717
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:29,280
got a little succulent finger like leaves, and then this

718
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,159
pink flower with many stamens. But Femoranthus is a cool

719
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:36,280
genus for me because you know, when I was learning

720
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,159
botany in California, I don't think you get any out there. Yeah,

721
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:42,280
there's none. There's no Femoranthus in California, Nevada so far

722
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,079
as I know. Uh, they're in Mexico. There's twenty species

723
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:49,480
listed on ninastros. They're in Mexico. You get a lot

724
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,320
out east, primarily in glades. That would be a good

725
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,920
indicator species to see where the good glades are, Like,

726
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,840
go to a naturalists, go to explore type in Femoranthus

727
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,280
p H E M and uh, because I fucking love glades.

728
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,880
Like I wanted to go to Nashville too on the

729
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,280
way down, but I was like, I just don't have

730
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,079
it a fucking time. I don't want to go and

731
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,320
only spend two days in in you know, around the

732
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,519
Tennessee Glades. I want to like, do I want to

733
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:16,280
go there when I have a week? But anyway, yeah,

734
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,960
so you know you could that's a good indicator species

735
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,039
for a rocky area, for a rocky site, you know,

736
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,920
through Texas through I guess there's some in New Mexico.

737
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:32,079
Looks like eastern Colorado, Uh, northern Arizona, southern Utah. Yeah,

738
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:35,199
what a fucking great. Well what is this one in Illinois? Oh?

739
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,679
What is this? Is this a site in central northern

740
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,920
Illinois near Dixon that's got a lot of Femorantus. What's

741
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,719
going on there? Femoranthus rugo spermis So that looks nice.

742
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,719
I'm looking at some of these habitat shots where is it?

743
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,960
Where is this Franklin Creek State Natural Area in northern

744
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,960
Illinois near Beautiful Dixon? Have you ever been kicked out

745
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,880
of it? Denny's in Dixon, ILLINOI what river is that?

746
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:03,719
God the fucking there is so much cool ship in

747
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,119
the Midwest. Granted you got to have a car to

748
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:09,119
get to most of these places. And uh, you know,

749
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,880
there's been a somewhat socially conserved conservative vibe in many

750
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,440
of these areas, but which means that maybe they're not

751
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:24,320
appred I'm fucking maybe there's less of an appreciation than

752
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,400
you might otherwise have for some of these quote natural areas.

753
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,840
I just assume that, you know, when you see, you know,

754
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:36,039
a big Christian school located in a town next to

755
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:38,599
a Nashville area, you're gonna assume maybe there's less there's

756
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:41,800
less appreciation for the biodiversity. I don't know. It's a

757
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,760
difference of worldviews, class of civilizations. I gotta stop saying

758
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,639
that shit. I'm gonna get you know, I'm getting myself.

759
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:52,199
This is everybody podcast, now, right? Is that what this is?

760
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:59,679
I gotta stop. Okay, anyway, Stone Barn, Savannah, Nachusa grasslands.

761
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:01,440
Oh yeah, I've heard of this spot. Damn, there's some

762
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:04,400
good ship there. And looking at a terrain map especially,

763
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:06,719
you should always have your map on the terrain layer,

764
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,960
never on the flat layer. If you're if you're quote

765
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,639
map sturbating, you're looking at places on a map to

766
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,199
you might want to go look for plants. Have it

767
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,480
on terrain. You gotta see that topography. And you're getting

768
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:21,920
some topography here, which is cool. God damn, and download

769
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,960
that rock that too, so but yeah, Joplin, uh yeah,

770
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:31,679
Femoranthus rugo spermis near Dixon, Illinois. That's that's definitely on

771
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,880
my map. Now I gotta go to. But this Chert

772
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,159
Glade and Joplin was fucking gray. And there's some actual

773
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,280
cool cliffs down by the river, you know, like steep, decent,

774
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,719
like someone was climbing there. There's some cool terrain. The

775
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,559
Opuncha there I think was just Saspatosa which may have

776
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,280
been Humifusa. Maybe they they split it up, but it's

777
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,440
a prickly pair. And then there was oh, there was ruilla,

778
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,880
which is just I think it was just Ruellia humorless.

779
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,440
But it was a white flower ecotype and the flowers

780
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,519
were just getting ready to open. We were there later

781
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:06,400
in the day the flowers were just getting ready to open.

782
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:09,480
So to me, that implies moth pollination along with that tube.

783
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,320
That tube flower God. I got back in the man Freyda,

784
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,239
I got back to my house. I got Manfreida lounge

785
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,840
of flora, a gave relative. It's like a soft leaved

786
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,639
relative of a gave. Someone was actually trying to lump

787
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:23,880
it into a gave at one point, which is fucking stupid.

788
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,159
They ended up it was nested within a gave and

789
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,360
the proper course of action was taken instead of lumping

790
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:34,599
Manfreda into a gave. Because it's so different in so

791
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:41,239
many ways, different flowers, different habit It's not monocarpic. It's

792
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,280
got a root, perennial root and herbaceous leaves. So the

793
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,280
leaves are you know, are temporal or the leaves are ephemeral,

794
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,119
and excuse me, the leaves are ephemeral and the root

795
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,119
is permanent, and just shouldn't it would never in a

796
00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:58,960
million years. It shouldn't be, you know, lumped with the gave.

797
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:01,800
They're closely related. It's good to know. But so what

798
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,880
they did it was it was nested within so it

799
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,400
had some agaves on above it on the phylogeny, and

800
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,199
a lot of agaves below it. And so what they

801
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,000
did is they just looked at the agaves that were

802
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:14,719
above it, the species that were classified as a gave,

803
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,119
looked at those, and then created new genera for those

804
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,320
because they were weird already, like a Gave bractiosa became

805
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,960
Paleoa gave bracdiosa. They were weird already. They didn't they

806
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,280
didn't they were unique enough to be to warrant separation

807
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,199
from the rest of the genus Agave akino, Agave striata,

808
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:35,679
et cetera. But anyway, I came back to Texas and

809
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,519
the man freight to launch of floor was going off,

810
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,480
sending up an inflorescence about two feet tall. White flowers,

811
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:45,239
white tubular elongated flowers that bloom, you know, start to

812
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,800
open around six pm. The flowers smell like vanilla and perfume,

813
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,159
like so many moth pollinated flowers do so many unrelated

814
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:56,280
moth pollinated flowers, whether it's they're in Aposta a seed

815
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,039
oleander family, the milkweed family, or whether they're in the

816
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:03,000
cactus family, or whether they're in uh, you know, the

817
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:09,159
agave family. Whatever. All have the same scent or like onathra.

818
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,760
A lot of evening primroses are obviously moth pollinated. They've

819
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,480
got that same perfume, alcohol like scent. Except with this

820
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:17,360
man freate a lounge of Flora, which is a Star

821
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:20,480
County species. It's a South Texas species. I don't think.

822
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:22,679
I don't think you get it too far north. I

823
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:25,559
think it's mostly like Southern Texas. Great fucking plant, though,

824
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:29,760
really cool. You know, you'll you'll find it growing with

825
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,199
horse cripplers and astrophyte and mysterious et cetera. This was

826
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,800
it was going off at six pm and smelled incredible

827
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,880
and I have two of them, and I just germinated

828
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,400
a bunch of seed, and so I came back and

829
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,159
I was just, you know, it's so cool to be

830
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:48,239
able to study plants just because they're in your yard.

831
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,960
You know, if I wanted to study manfreate a lounge

832
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,360
of Flora, normally I'd have to drive out to the

833
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,880
field where they grow the few sites I know where

834
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,679
they occur in South Texas and go hang out there,

835
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,519
you know, from when they open till late at night,

836
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:05,000
you know, to see what's visiting them here. I could

837
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:06,920
just do it with my front yard. You know, I

838
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,559
go outside, I photograph, I'm opening, and then I come

839
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:13,079
back in, you know, have a little cup of tea

840
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:16,320
or something, fuck around, get some work done, go back

841
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,599
out at midnight and see what's pollinating them. But yeah,

842
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:24,039
they smell incredible, man. And I saw like, yeah, this

843
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:27,639
four inch wide moth hitting the other moth pollinated flowers.

844
00:44:27,639 --> 00:44:32,280
I got manda Villa lenugenosa, which is an apostanacy. It's

845
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,960
another plant you encounter here in the Peote gardens a

846
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:39,480
little bit further west of where I am. Yeah, I

847
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:41,320
was trying. I mean I heard I heard on a

848
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,760
grapevine that my house is hot with the code enforcement

849
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,800
for the city I live in, which is just fucking

850
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:53,440
just like really, really, you guys already tried this a

851
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,960
year ago. You were already bested with me for having

852
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:59,000
a quote, unkempt yard, and then I got it. I

853
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:02,440
ended up dealing with it just by being polite, being

854
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:06,679
polite and being kind, but extremely obnoxious and over informative

855
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:10,159
to them and just hassling them every day. You know, hey,

856
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:12,079
come by, check this out. These are native plants. This

857
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:13,800
is what I do for a living. I'm a botanist,

858
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:16,320
blah blah. You know, we actually just filmed the show

859
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,519
called Kill Your Lawn. Lawns are you know, bad and

860
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,760
numerous ways. They're bad for the water supply, they're bad

861
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,159
for the soil. They make the area around your house

862
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,719
hotter because they're like a heat island. They're only a

863
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,400
little bit better than an asphalt parking lot. It heats

864
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,239
up the ground, you know, versus the transpirational cooling effect

865
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,400
that you get from having a four foot tall thicket

866
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,920
of native plants. You know that you manage and you prune,

867
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,079
and you clip and you cut a path through whatever.

868
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,920
You make it look tidy and nice and with this

869
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,280
shit whatever that means. But it's still a lot of

870
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,639
plant material with you know, those stomato, those little gas

871
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,880
pours on the under sides of leaves that take in

872
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,199
CO two and let out oxygen and water vapor. And

873
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,360
as they let out that water vapor, it's got a

874
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,079
cooling effect because it's water going from a liquid to

875
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,400
a gas state, just like a swamp. Corp. I just

876
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,440
did that, and they eventually backed off and said, all right,

877
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,719
fuck it. This guy's you know, I think what happened

878
00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:13,480
is they just realized I was going to be too

879
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:15,400
much of a pan ass and let it go. But

880
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,360
why the dude? You know this guy at city hall

881
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,480
is even talking about it in the first place. You know,

882
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:22,960
it's like it's the man, it'stead of your business. Doesn't matter.

883
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,239
Don't worry about it. Like you you think everybody should

884
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,840
have a lawn, because that's all you know. Your breadth

885
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,679
of experience in the world is infinitesimally small. You haven't

886
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,719
been around, you haven't seen other things. You don't know

887
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,480
anything different. Why do you care? Go find something to do.

888
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,800
Go find some stuff to staple. What do you do?

889
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,280
What do you do at opposite city goll? Go staple

890
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,199
some papers together. Just just get some papers off a desk,

891
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,360
start stapling them. Go have a zoom meeting about something

892
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,719
that doesn't matter. You know that, you know none of

893
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,920
your constituents are aware of. Go go take a bribe

894
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,920
from a developer. What did you go? Find something to do?

895
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,079
There's something out there. Go occupy your time, you know, Ah, yeah,

896
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:06,400
yeah Jesus, but yeah, Havardi appealins was going up too. God,

897
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,400
my yard is lit up at night. It's so cool.

898
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,480
Like by lit up figuratively speaking here, I mean lit

899
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:15,840
up with cool moth pollinated plants like the Havardia. A

900
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,079
lot of moth pollinated plants won't even end up emitting

901
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:22,800
scent until you know, seven eight pm anyway, like right

902
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,280
before dusk. And that's what havardiappalins does, which is a

903
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:30,800
in the Mimosa subfamily, the miska subfamily of the legume family.

904
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:34,199
For basi, Havardia is a how many other species in

905
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,400
the genus havardi I should look that up, But it's

906
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,360
one of the best trees species. The plant here doesn't

907
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,480
get huge, doesn't overtake, pops out at like twenty feet

908
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,000
just like Guahio, like Senegalia berlandi, riet like ebony ebenopsis

909
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:50,719
of bano, like misky. Some of the miskit here can

910
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,000
get upwards the thirty or forty feet tall beautiful fucking

911
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:57,800
trees nel Tuma glandulosa formerly in the genus Prosopis. But

912
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,199
it's all mimozoids down here in the south tech borderlands. Man,

913
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,000
you get some others. You got Citaroxalon celestrinum, you got

914
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:12,079
some cool members of rutasi, Amorus helieta, et cetera. But uh,

915
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,519
but and then in the sandsheet you got the you

916
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:18,760
got Corcus virginiana. But it's an ecotype, the sandsheet ecotype.

917
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:23,199
It's been through, however, many dozens of thousands, if not millions,

918
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,199
of years of natural selection on the hot, dry, fast, training,

919
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,599
relatively nutrient poor sandsheet. So that population has been you know,

920
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,360
bread a little bit. It's been bred by the environment

921
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,960
the same way that humans will breed crop plants from

922
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,760
their wild ancestors. But obviously the environment is breeding it

923
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,679
for a you know, adaptation to that unique suite of characteristics,

924
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,159
and also pollinators and insect pass et cetera. Anyway, I'm

925
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:56,559
going on a fucking rant here. We were talking about

926
00:48:56,679 --> 00:49:02,400
glades in western Missouri. The day before I hit that

927
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,480
glade in western Missouri, I was on the side of

928
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:09,960
the road and beautiful Ardmore, Oklahoma, checking out a rock

929
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:16,400
out cropping, Beautiful ard More, Beautiful ard Moore, Oklahoma, checking

930
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,599
out a rockout cropping with pensament Kobea and Diosporos virginiana

931
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:27,159
per simmon. And I think there was a menopappus there.

932
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,880
That's another kind of one, you know more, just like

933
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,880
that suite of North Texas plants. Ringium leven Worth the

934
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,840
eye was there too, which is a fucking stunner, but

935
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,239
that was not blooming yet. You didn't get those big

936
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,920
purple bracts. It's an erringium that gets, you know, upwards,

937
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,199
like three four feet tall. You see it in North

938
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:47,480
Texas a lot. It's generally going off in September. It's spiny,

939
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:51,800
it's got really stiff, corriacious foliage, but it's like a

940
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,840
deep purple and pink. It's a really fucking cool plant.

941
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,159
I'm surprised I've never seen that in any native plant guard.

942
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:00,880
It's like, why is no one using ringe worth the eye.

943
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,559
It's a fucking great species. There was no Putthi a

944
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:09,800
gill Vessens at this this rocky outcropping in Oklahoma too.

945
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,559
I'm stopping at all these places. The Wachita Mountains look

946
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:15,039
so fucking cool, you know. Look at that on a

947
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:18,159
terrain map. It looks like someone pushed again. It's like

948
00:50:18,199 --> 00:50:21,719
at that Sierra Madre oriental thing where it looks like

949
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,599
someone pushed the throw rug up against the door jam

950
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:29,320
on a hardwood floor. Like that crumpling, you know that

951
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,679
like accordion style crumpling. But in this case, when that

952
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,320
orogeny happened, when those mountains were pushed up, you could

953
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,920
tell the impact came from the south, because all the

954
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,559
mountain ranges are generally bending. They're like a mildly bent

955
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:49,960
arch that goes from from west to east, all right,

956
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,840
And that's of course how all the rivers flow in

957
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,320
between them. Because the rivers are flowing in between, they're

958
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:59,199
flowing in the valleys in the troughs of these uplifted

959
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:05,159
and bent layers of sedimentary rock of marine generally limestone.

960
00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:07,280
I think it's mostly four hundred years old, four hundred

961
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,039
million years old. Yeah, So the collision, and this is

962
00:51:11,079 --> 00:51:14,480
when the super continent Pangaea was being formed. The collision

963
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:18,599
that formed the uplift that bent those rocks that you know,

964
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,960
pushed that that that throw rug up against the door

965
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:27,840
jam on a hardwood floor of the lithosphere. Uh. The

966
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,239
continent that did it was or the super the the

967
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,039
plate that did it. A tectonic plate hit it and

968
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,840
collided with it, coming from the south, forming the super

969
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,000
continent of Pangaea. And then about three hundred million years ago,

970
00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:43,679
and this was these were again, this is all calcareous mud,

971
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,599
this whole mountain range. The Wagtas were mostly calcareous mud

972
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:52,760
formed from the bodies of single celled calcareous plankton, calcium

973
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:58,920
carbonate plankton, plankton that cocoa lithophores foraminifhra that build their

974
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,199
little look up a cocoa liphoor like an electron electron

975
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:08,440
scanning microscope of of a coco lithophore c O C

976
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:11,320
C O L I T H O p h E

977
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,480
r E. They look fucking cool. They look really cool.

978
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,239
They look like these little like a like an aggregation

979
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,639
of a bunch of cheerios coming together or donuts coming

980
00:52:20,679 --> 00:52:24,159
together to form a globe, a sphere. And they got

981
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:26,239
little ridges on them and stuff. That'd be a nice tattoo.

982
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,519
Somebody out there, go get a cocoa lithophoor tattoo, a

983
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:34,559
scanning electron microscope of a cocoa lithophor. So they formed

984
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:38,679
these these, you know, this mud at the bottom of

985
00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:40,719
this ancient ocean. You can still see shit like this

986
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,119
in the ocean in the ocean today in areas you know.

987
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,440
But remember, you go too deep, you hit the uh,

988
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:52,400
what is it? The calcium? What is it? Calcium compensation depth,

989
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:57,719
the calcium carbonate compensation depth below below that depth, which

990
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,800
varies depending on what ocean. You know, it's it's variable

991
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,800
depending on what ocean you're in. It's between thirty five

992
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,920
hundred and forty five hundred meters in the Indian Pacific oceans,

993
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:14,000
but it varies based on you know, basically, how how

994
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:18,199
the rate of calcium carbonate material forming and sinking holds

995
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,320
up with the rate that the material is dissolving. So below,

996
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,880
But the important thing to know is that below the

997
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,679
calcium carbonate compensation depth, no calcareous mud is accumulating, so

998
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,239
you don't get limestone. So that's why you get. Instead,

999
00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:36,159
you get silica. You get the chirt and the radularian shirt,

1000
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,480
whatever it's. It's a more silicious, generally speaking, silicious composition,

1001
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:45,960
silica rich composition of the mud below the CCD the

1002
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,800
calcium carbonate, the calcium carbonate compensation depth. And why does

1003
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,679
this matter because this is what forms the rocks that

1004
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,360
we end up looking for plants on. All right, That's

1005
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,360
why you end up getting silica based rock in some

1006
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,800
areas that's not volcanic like marine silica rocks versus limestone.

1007
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:10,760
There's a lot of fucking limestone though, and that's why

1008
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,440
most of the most of the rock that you get,

1009
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,840
I mean, it was mostly calcareous MUDs that formed the

1010
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,519
Western Interior Seaway. You know, that was around one hundred

1011
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:21,760
million years ago, which is pretty young, still younger than

1012
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,000
the rocks in the Watchita Mountains. And you know, the

1013
00:54:25,039 --> 00:54:29,760
limestone that composes most of Texas uh is there because

1014
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:32,920
it was a shallow ocean, so it didn't there wasn't

1015
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,679
deep you know, it wasn't even deep enough in a

1016
00:54:34,679 --> 00:54:38,440
lot of those areas, UH for the limestone basically to

1017
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,320
be filtered out and unable to dissolve or or more

1018
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:48,039
likely to dissolve excuse me, versus being deposited, because beyond

1019
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:49,960
it in the deep oceans, that's where you get a

1020
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,880
lot of the biogenic silica that forms the church. If

1021
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,719
it's a shallow ocean, you're just gonna mostly get limestone. Anyway,

1022
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,519
that said, so you could tell that these the watch

1023
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,800
Ittail Mountain were pushed up and they've mostly been worn

1024
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,639
down because they're so old. I mean, this is an

1025
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,000
uplift that happened three hundred million years ago versus you know,

1026
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:10,880
like thirty five million years ago for the Sierra Nevada.

1027
00:55:11,159 --> 00:55:13,000
Let me look at that up. Actually, yeah, Serra Nevada

1028
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:15,199
is still debatable. But I think what I had in

1029
00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:17,559
my mind was like thirty five million years. It's between

1030
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:21,199
twenty million and fifty million years for Sierra Nevada. So

1031
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,880
I think thirty five million sounds like a good and

1032
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,679
relatively young versus the Rockies, which are thought to have

1033
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,400
been uplifted a lot earlier, like in the Late Cretaceous,

1034
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,239
seventy five million years ago, all right, So being they

1035
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,000
were being uplifted when the dinosaurs were still around, you know,

1036
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,719
because the dinosaur extinction happened sixty six million years ago,

1037
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:45,599
it's a good it's a good chronological landmark. The Wachitas

1038
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,199
are a lot older, so they've had, you know, two

1039
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,079
hundred and fifty million extra years to get ground down

1040
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:52,840
and worn by the elements, whether it eroded, et cetera.

1041
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,159
But still, what a fucking great man, what a great

1042
00:55:55,159 --> 00:55:58,079
mountain range. So much good shit there too. I bet

1043
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:01,400
there's I bet there's how many endemics in the watch

1044
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,679
Itta Mountains? Yeah, how many how many how many endemic

1045
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:10,199
plant species in my favorite fold belt of Oklahoma, because

1046
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:11,960
that's what it is. It's a fold belts, a fold

1047
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,199
thrust belt, I think is the same thing. It's again,

1048
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,119
it's similar. Look at when you see those folds and

1049
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:21,800
that crumpling, that that that throw rug on the hardwood

1050
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,719
floor effect. You're looking at mostly marine sediments having you know,

1051
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,239
and compaction, convergent tectonic plate action. Same thing you see

1052
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,480
in the Sierra Moderate Oriental near Monterrey, Mexico. But it

1053
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:37,880
says here and it's just from the fuck website is

1054
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,119
says I'll tell you later. Fourteen endemic plant texts that

1055
00:56:41,159 --> 00:56:43,840
have been documented from the Wachita Mountains, several of which

1056
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,639
have only been described in recent decades. Jesus Christ, there's

1057
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,440
probably quite a few that have not been described yet

1058
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:57,199
as well. God damn like man, Yeah, solid dogo watch atensis.

1059
00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:01,719
Oh there's some good stuff. Oh, time to get back

1060
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,679
in the truck. I got too much shit to do. Oh.

1061
00:57:03,679 --> 00:57:07,360
This is a natural history notebook and joint project of

1062
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,880
the Missouri Botanical Guard in the Ecological Health Network and

1063
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:15,519
a restoration ecology lab at Virginia Tech. And it sounds nice.

1064
00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:22,400
Oh this is a blog from December twenty fourteen, but yeah, man,

1065
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:24,880
it's fucking oh, there's so cool. I've been wanting to

1066
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,079
bonnie there for a while. I look at areas on

1067
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:30,159
a map, on a terrain map, and see these folds

1068
00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:32,719
on all this cool, I mean god, and you just

1069
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,239
immediately I'm like, oh, I'm looking for stuff. There's got

1070
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,079
to be some cool plants there. Again the intersection of

1071
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:42,039
geology and plant life, which is the same thing that

1072
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:46,039
I was doing in Cape Girardo. When I looked at Ben,

1073
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:48,199
I think Ben Thomas actually told me about that San

1074
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,639
Prairie Conservation area. He had a book, My friend Ben

1075
00:57:51,679 --> 00:57:53,639
that works at Mobile. He had a book and I

1076
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,599
was looking through it and I saw the Sand Prairie

1077
00:57:55,639 --> 00:58:00,760
Conservation Area and Polygonella americana, which is a really fucking

1078
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,320
weird species, really weird cool plant. Looks like a juniper.

1079
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,920
It's in the buckwheed family, and it grows in scattered

1080
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,480
populations only on sand. I think it's primarily only on

1081
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:14,639
sand deposits, because you know, stuff that grows on sand

1082
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:16,840
doesn't like competition. That's why it ends up growing there.

1083
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,519
There were some really cool dryland sedges at this uh

1084
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:26,000
at that sand prairie conservation area near Cape Girardo really

1085
00:58:26,039 --> 00:58:29,239
like I normally I overlook sedges. I think they're cool,

1086
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,519
but I don't care about them that much. They're not

1087
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:34,360
my main thing. You know. I appreciate them, but I

1088
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,320
don't go nuts. And I don't know the terminology, but

1089
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,880
I certainly you know, it picked my interest being here

1090
00:58:41,679 --> 00:58:43,440
because you see these things and you're like, man, there

1091
00:58:44,159 --> 00:58:45,559
was one I think it was, Yeah, it was a

1092
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:49,039
bulbo stylist. It was like turning orange, beautiful color to

1093
00:58:49,079 --> 00:58:51,840
these weird leaves. It looks like a grass with these

1094
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,000
weird fucking heads on it. And it was dominating here

1095
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:56,960
on these sand planes. And then there was it was

1096
00:58:57,039 --> 00:59:00,000
so barren on these sand planes compared to the surround

1097
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:03,119
woodland that there was liking. There was cladonia liking you know,

1098
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:06,519
green and red match the cladonia liking growing on the ground.

1099
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,280
There was a punchya put the Essexes potosas scattered here

1100
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,400
and there, and then polygonella as well, which again looks

1101
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,039
like a juniper or like a tamarisk, like a salt seedar.

1102
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:22,480
But then it's got these these spikes. These are race

1103
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,119
seams of tiny white flowers. I put a post up

1104
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:28,519
on Instagram about it, h and the video came out.

1105
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:31,480
I think it was Friday I put it out. I'm

1106
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,039
putting out videos like fucking hotcakes, man, just like I

1107
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:37,199
just want to get them done. I've got other shit

1108
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:38,559
to do. I need to get this stuff done and

1109
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:43,039
get it off my plate. But h yeah, that polygonella

1110
00:59:43,159 --> 00:59:45,880
was cool because it formed these these shrubs. You know,

1111
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,719
it's it's a shrub in areas where the soil is

1112
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:50,000
a little deeper. But then there were areas where it

1113
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:52,280
was really you could tell the soil was not that deep.

1114
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,320
By soil, I mean sand, and I don't know if

1115
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,159
there was bedrock beneath there, underneath there or what. But

1116
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,559
it got like a eight inches tall, and it looked

1117
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:07,000
so different from the other individuals that I was seeing

1118
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:10,880
in other areas of this conservation area that I thought

1119
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,519
it was a different plant. I was like, what the

1120
01:00:12,519 --> 01:00:14,400
fuck is this? Is this like a weird kind of

1121
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,400
It looked like a weird kind of like subshrub flocks species,

1122
01:00:19,559 --> 01:00:22,639
or like something in carriophilecey, like a weird pair of

1123
01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:25,480
Nikkia or something. It was so fucking weird, and none

1124
01:00:25,519 --> 01:00:27,280
of them were none of those were flowering, but I

1125
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,119
think it was. Yeah, it was quite obviously just Polygonella americana.

1126
01:00:31,159 --> 01:00:36,679
It had, you know, the younger leaves, the younger like

1127
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,159
little linear arochoid leaves. It was such a cool spot.

1128
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,840
But then a storm picked up really quick to I forgot. Man,

1129
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,000
in the Midwest, storms get scary, like I'm not used to.

1130
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:49,039
I haven't been in an area where the storms can

1131
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:50,960
actually be kind of freaky. Like you see it and

1132
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:54,199
you're like, oh shit, that like a wind moves in,

1133
01:00:54,239 --> 01:00:55,920
a cold front moves in all of a sudden, The

1134
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,159
trees are blowing violently. The clouds on the horizon are

1135
01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:03,920
almost black, you know. I started seeing what looked like

1136
01:01:04,639 --> 01:01:08,000
it looked like it might have been the funnel cloud

1137
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:10,119
that could have formed that died out, like there was

1138
01:01:10,159 --> 01:01:14,760
some slanting going on to the uh, the clouds of

1139
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:19,199
vapor that were forming on the horizon, Like it looked

1140
01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:21,199
like it was like it was raining, but it was

1141
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,239
coming in at a slant too, like there was a

1142
01:01:24,239 --> 01:01:26,239
weird I don't know, man, it just it was spooky.

1143
01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:28,239
So I said, all right, let's get the fuck out

1144
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,440
of here and and go meet at him Black at

1145
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,880
the h the dirty motel at actually it wasn't it

1146
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,679
was a nice motel. It was Hampton, and we stayed

1147
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:41,280
at the Hampton and his work paid for it. And uh,

1148
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,480
what was a Poplar Bluffs, beautiful Popular Bluff, Missouri. I'm

1149
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:49,079
sure they have some wonderful vacation Bible camps and beautiful

1150
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:53,239
Popular Bluff, Missouri. So enough about this region of a country.

1151
01:01:53,239 --> 01:01:56,480
But know that if you live in Missouri or western

1152
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:59,800
Arkansas or eastern Oklahoma, I'm coming for you if it sometime,

1153
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,119
I'm want to come out there and uh and do

1154
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,440
some do some fucking body, like give it a week

1155
01:02:05,559 --> 01:02:08,039
or something. I need to spend some real time out there, man,

1156
01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:10,159
And I need to go to Nashville area to check

1157
01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:13,159
out some of the Nashville Glades, a bunch of good

1158
01:02:13,159 --> 01:02:17,079
ship there, northern Alabama, these whole you know, entire it's

1159
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:21,679
entire region of the country in the central East that

1160
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,280
I have not spent much time. Then. I've done so much,

1161
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,639
spend so much time out west in California and even

1162
01:02:26,679 --> 01:02:31,920
Pacific Northwest early on, but not here. And I'm gonna

1163
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,440
be looking for the rocky sites, you know, an the

1164
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,679
orogenes looking for the histories, the origenic histories of some

1165
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:45,880
of these mountains, the wachitah Ozarks, the the Appalachians. Holy shit,

1166
01:02:47,239 --> 01:02:49,000
there's a lot of good stuff. Man. That's why I

1167
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,840
would man if you, if you live in those areas,

1168
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,639
got there, but they got to burn. They really need

1169
01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:56,320
to burn. The fire suppression, to me is so crazy.

1170
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,519
And you think that these fire suppression regimes have been,

1171
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:01,800
it's the way it's been for one hundred and fifty

1172
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,639
years basically, you know, since the And I just find

1173
01:03:05,639 --> 01:03:07,880
this word is so fucking annoying because you find so

1174
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,880
many like young fucking twenty four year old kids on

1175
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:15,079
TikTok overusing it and or college kids applying it the

1176
01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:17,719
shit that it doesn't apply to. But when the fucking

1177
01:03:18,039 --> 01:03:23,840
European colonialism arrived and decimated, you fucked up the landscape,

1178
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,000
you know, which, depending on where you are, started roughly

1179
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,000
three hundred to one hundred and fifty years ago. Prior

1180
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:35,159
to that, the fucking man, the landscape must have looked

1181
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:38,840
so different. Not only did you have megafauna, which you

1182
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,639
know had huge effects on the flora. I mean, all

1183
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:46,599
the intense grazing of the bison alone and robust populations

1184
01:03:46,639 --> 01:03:51,000
of herbivores plus the predators that kept them in check,

1185
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,360
which also in effect handled the tick populations because when

1186
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,559
you get deer populations, you know, for example, going fucking nuts,

1187
01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:03,400
you know and exploding, the tich population explodes too, as

1188
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,000
logic would follow, So you had the herbivore effect. And

1189
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:10,440
then all the fires I mean the indigenous people that

1190
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:14,840
Native people were using to steward and maintain these landscapes

1191
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,440
for thousands of years, which I'm sure they learned, you know,

1192
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:24,079
was a necessity. God knows how long ago they learned it,

1193
01:04:24,239 --> 01:04:27,199
you know, probably a long time. Probably a long time ago.

1194
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,960
I mean, it just probably became something where they were

1195
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:33,079
we got to burn these this shit just gets too inundated,

1196
01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:36,039
it gets too dense. Well, actually, it probably wasn't even

1197
01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:37,559
get I don't know, it probably wasn't even getting to

1198
01:04:37,679 --> 01:04:40,239
I don't know. There's so many dynamics I'm unaware of,

1199
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,480
Like these ecosystems have been so fucked in the last

1200
01:04:42,519 --> 01:04:46,639
few hundred years, it's hard to tell, you know, what

1201
01:04:47,559 --> 01:04:50,639
different factors were affecting them and how things have changed.

1202
01:04:50,719 --> 01:04:57,800
Once colonization occurred, people were removed the burning was was

1203
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,000
was thrown away, you know, the fire suppression started, the

1204
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:06,360
predators were wiped out, things were over hunted, the bison

1205
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:11,119
wear were exterminated. I mean, it's so wild to think about,

1206
01:05:11,159 --> 01:05:13,840
you know, but it's and it's something that I'm not too.

1207
01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:16,800
It's in a way it's new to me because again

1208
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,199
I learned Bodni out west, which is like shit then'

1209
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,559
you know, Europeans didn't really have a chance to start

1210
01:05:22,599 --> 01:05:27,480
fucking things up there. This this civilization that came didn't

1211
01:05:27,519 --> 01:05:29,639
have things just didn't have time to start fucking things

1212
01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:33,039
up there large scale until like eighteen fifty, like it's one,

1213
01:05:33,079 --> 01:05:36,239
populations really took off, you know, the gold Rush out West,

1214
01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:40,000
et cetera versus you know out east its shiit me.

1215
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,519
You had a couple more hundred years for the wreckage

1216
01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:47,960
to start occurring and for you know, large scale ecosystem destruction,

1217
01:05:48,159 --> 01:05:52,960
lands starting to get converted to agriculture and pasture. It's

1218
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,599
so wild to think about. But and it's so different too.

1219
01:05:56,679 --> 01:05:59,599
I mean, getting so overgrown and innundated so easily because

1220
01:05:59,639 --> 01:06:02,280
the ring fall is that much higher where burning is

1221
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,320
man like burning is. I mean, but I feel like

1222
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,679
burning is a necessity anyway. We gotta have low controlled

1223
01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:09,719
burns out west to eliminate fuels so you don't get

1224
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,280
massive wildfires. But then you've also got to have burning

1225
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,280
in a lot of these woodlands and prairies out east

1226
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,440
because there's just so much biomass generated every year due

1227
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,400
to the rainfall. This is just the wetter more music

1228
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,679
eastern half of the country. And if you don't man,

1229
01:06:28,719 --> 01:06:31,280
the fucking the sugars alone will be enough to just

1230
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,920
fucking burn at all, you know, And that's what keeps

1231
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,199
these ecosystems healthy. Plus the predators too. It's a huge thing,

1232
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:45,000
the predators keeping the deer populations in check anyway. But yeah,

1233
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:48,800
So anyway, moving on from this area though, uh and

1234
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,199
going on up to the beautiful rest belt being out

1235
01:06:51,199 --> 01:06:53,719
at a rost belt too. We went to Detroit, Detroit,

1236
01:06:54,159 --> 01:06:59,960
we went to Pittsburgh, we went to we stopped in Youngstown, Ohio,

1237
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:03,639
out out to Kelly over there with your landscaping company

1238
01:07:03,639 --> 01:07:07,039
that hung out with us and drank coffee and in

1239
01:07:07,159 --> 01:07:10,920
beautiful Youngstown for a while. Man, these these I love,

1240
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,719
these like rust belt. It's kind of depressing and dystopic

1241
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,960
and weird, but these rust belt towns with these incredibly

1242
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,679
low population densities because the factories closed and there's old

1243
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:23,599
steel mills. Whatever the fuck we went to. We were

1244
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:25,480
looking for a spot to just park the van and

1245
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:27,639
make a sandwich and lurk in someplace had a big

1246
01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:30,360
parking lot. We ended up in front of some brewery

1247
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,840
in Youngstown that was built in it. It was the

1248
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,719
brewery was in an old steel mill, like this giant

1249
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:43,800
old warehouse, like stadium sized steel building, open air steel building,

1250
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,400
not open air but you know, no walls inside. And

1251
01:07:47,679 --> 01:07:49,199
I mean, I don't drink, but we just went there

1252
01:07:49,239 --> 01:07:50,880
because it was a spot to lurk. It was open.

1253
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,639
It was like a Sunday. When we rolled through, it

1254
01:07:52,679 --> 01:07:54,880
was like we can we can kick it here. No

1255
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,519
one's going to run us out of the parking lot

1256
01:07:56,599 --> 01:08:01,840
and fill up the water jug whatever. And just being

1257
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,159
in that building this you know that once was a

1258
01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:09,199
place where they poured molten steel. It was so so

1259
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,960
surreal because all the infrastructure is still there, these rusting hulks.

1260
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:16,319
You know, it's like being in a museum. Same thing

1261
01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:19,840
with Detroit. Detroit felt like that too, you know, just

1262
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,800
the these the old rust belt town low population density.

1263
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,960
There's been a lot of gentrification, I guess in Detroit,

1264
01:08:25,079 --> 01:08:30,119
I mean any American city. Gentrification is not even the wording,

1265
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:33,880
it's like the it's like basically urban real estate speculation.

1266
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,600
Like gentrification is such an absolute term, almost because it's

1267
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,800
not what this is anymore. It's not about like a

1268
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:46,199
hip coffee shop. It's about, you know, intense investment speculation

1269
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:51,720
on properties, you know, like sometimes by companies that don't

1270
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,000
even aren't aren't even within the country, you know, like

1271
01:08:54,039 --> 01:08:58,800
by overseas companies. It's like treating investments, treating the housings

1272
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,079
supply in urban areas like an investment, and just the

1273
01:09:02,119 --> 01:09:05,600
intense fucking rental prices for some of these places. Now,

1274
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:10,439
I mean Detroit is still you know, comparatively obviously massively

1275
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,199
affordable to places like San Francisco, but still it's it's

1276
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:19,399
a priced some some people out. But you know, Detroit, man,

1277
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,119
like whole blocks. You're driving past whole blocks that are

1278
01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:24,640
just empty. There were houses there once, they've been knocked down.

1279
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,359
It's just now it's just like these green fields, like

1280
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:34,119
overgrown with a mixture of mostly probably invasive plants from Europe,

1281
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:37,680
because those are always the ones that colonize and you know,

1282
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,680
fill in places in cities. You know, once there's like

1283
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,760
a vacant lot or railroad tracks or whatever, and then

1284
01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:48,119
there's always a couple natives too, you know, solid dogos,

1285
01:09:48,119 --> 01:09:52,399
some milkweed, some cottonwoods, whatever I could, I'd love to

1286
01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:54,359
spend a lot more time just looking at that, looking

1287
01:09:54,399 --> 01:09:57,279
at the plants that grow in these areas. You know

1288
01:09:57,359 --> 01:10:00,720
what ends up there. And obviously the natives that are

1289
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,640
there have to be pretty aggressive if they're growing out

1290
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,960
of asphalt and concrete and fucked up soil, and they

1291
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,680
have to be generally wind dispersed or bird dispersed, like

1292
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,960
how are they going to get around? You know, how

1293
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,600
are they going to get there in the first place?

1294
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,800
Since the habitat, if they're natives, you know, there's no

1295
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,840
native habitat left. Everything's been turned into a parking lot

1296
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:26,279
or a road or housing, so you know, where do

1297
01:10:26,319 --> 01:10:30,680
they come from? They wind birds, and then there might

1298
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,000
be little populations that are able to occupy places that

1299
01:10:34,039 --> 01:10:36,840
aren't going to get mode or hacked back or sprayed,

1300
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:42,399
like power line easements, train tracks, vacant lots, even the

1301
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,039
fucking roofs of old buildings and whatever I do. All

1302
01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:48,439
that restbelt shit's so cool. We spent some time in Detroit.

1303
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,560
We had two shows there which was just you know,

1304
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,520
basically doing a presentation, having a Q and A doing

1305
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,560
a screening to kill your lawn, shooting the shit. It's fun.

1306
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,039
I like just interacting with people too. I like, just

1307
01:11:03,239 --> 01:11:04,840
you know, what do you guys, I'll just straight up

1308
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:05,920
ask me what do you want to see? I got

1309
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,560
photos from all over the world. What do you want

1310
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,199
to see? What do you want to talk about? Et cetera.

1311
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:14,159
The show in Pittsburgh was cool. That was just in

1312
01:11:14,199 --> 01:11:18,680
a little coffee shop that was It was two in

1313
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,079
other also two days we did a show in Chicago.

1314
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:23,159
It was it was great, man, it was really laid back.

1315
01:11:23,239 --> 01:11:26,359
We stayed in Ohio. I saw the largest on the

1316
01:11:26,399 --> 01:11:31,640
way between Pittsburgh and Detroit. We stopped over at a hotel,

1317
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:36,159
a motor lodge in Ohio and like the outskirts of

1318
01:11:36,279 --> 01:11:40,560
Cleveland and saw the largest poison ivy I've ever seen

1319
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,359
in my life, growing like thirty feet up a Scotch pine,

1320
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,720
you know, with a stem that was had to be

1321
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,760
between six and eight inches diameter. It was massive, but

1322
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,920
the whole thing was funny about it was the whole

1323
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,319
thing was coming up in between this depressing motor lodge

1324
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:04,079
and like a fucking it's like a stereotypical Midwest office park,

1325
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,560
you know, with that really slick black asphalt. It's like

1326
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,239
the way they do it in the Midwest. I don't

1327
01:12:09,239 --> 01:12:11,079
know why it is, but it's just like each region

1328
01:12:11,159 --> 01:12:13,000
has its own, you know, Like if you look at

1329
01:12:13,039 --> 01:12:16,439
a picture of a bleak office park or a strip

1330
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,399
mall in the United States, you can kind of tell

1331
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,239
where it is. But you know, if you've been around,

1332
01:12:21,319 --> 01:12:24,920
if you've traveled across the commercial cesspool it is most

1333
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,800
of the US, you know, you could tell where it

1334
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,640
is just by the just by the look of it.

1335
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,319
Each region has its own sense of bleakness. In the Midwest,

1336
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,239
you know, from like fucking Iowa to Ohio has its own.

1337
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:41,439
It's like that that slick black asphalt, like with the

1338
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,079
tar on it they put. I think it's like they

1339
01:12:43,159 --> 01:12:44,720
put a ceilant or a tar. I don't know if

1340
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,119
it's because of the freezing or what. But but it

1341
01:12:47,239 --> 01:12:49,720
was funny because it was the only native plant growing

1342
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:54,479
anywhere besides like the rigor On canadensis, the Caneisa canadensist

1343
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,680
formerly Canisa the horseweed, which was fucking everywhere. That's such

1344
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,520
a funny case. That's got to be an invasive fucking

1345
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,319
plant overseas because that thing is everywhere horsewed. It's called

1346
01:13:05,319 --> 01:13:07,359
I don't know why, I've always just known it as canisa.

1347
01:13:08,279 --> 01:13:12,119
It's got these tiny little astorac flower heads and it's

1348
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:16,039
fucking everywhere. I saw a huge patch of it in Pittsburgh.

1349
01:13:16,079 --> 01:13:19,319
I was botanizing a degraded vacant lot next to a

1350
01:13:19,399 --> 01:13:23,319
construction site. What else was growing there? There's some other

1351
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:25,600
cool stuff growing there. Oh, there was the dreaded Bradford

1352
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,880
pair to it was. That kind of fills me with Hey,

1353
01:13:28,319 --> 01:13:32,439
Bradford pair and crape myrtle. It's crazy. Somebody somebody asked

1354
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,840
me the other day on a like a Facebook comment

1355
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,800
because I've been actually posting I don't have a personal

1356
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,239
Facebook page because I think Facebook's for marks, no offense.

1357
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,960
It just is a horrible venue. I hate Zuckerberg whatever,

1358
01:13:45,039 --> 01:13:47,479
but I use the I've been using the crime page

1359
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,119
Facebook that that company set up and then abandoned because

1360
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,760
because it's a good way to educate people. And I

1361
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,600
guess a lot of people use it and whatever. So

1362
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,399
I've been posting on there and it's easy. I don't

1363
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,880
take it too seriously. I don't put much time in

1364
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,800
and I just you know, slap together some quick video,

1365
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,000
throw it up, do a post whatever. Hopefully people get

1366
01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:08,680
something out of it, learn from it. But somebody commented

1367
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,880
really innocently, why do you hate crape myrtles so much?

1368
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,199
And I just just like went off. I'm you know,

1369
01:14:14,279 --> 01:14:16,720
I was like, it's like the fucking crp myrtles are

1370
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,880
like the live laugh love sign of horticultural atrocity. They're

1371
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,720
just so fucking they're overplanted there. That doesn't mean anything.

1372
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,399
They're garbage, they're out of ecological context. They're invasive on

1373
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,039
the East coast, they die on the West coast and

1374
01:14:31,159 --> 01:14:33,319
just require too much water. I'm sure they're really cool

1375
01:14:33,319 --> 01:14:37,239
where they're native, like any invasive plant or horticultural atrocity,

1376
01:14:37,319 --> 01:14:39,800
but they're just such a fucking they plant them out here.

1377
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,239
When I was I got invited to LBJ Wildflower Center

1378
01:14:43,279 --> 01:14:45,159
a month ago, which was great, it was fucking awesome.

1379
01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:47,359
I took my kid too. They had this dinosaur exhibit

1380
01:14:47,399 --> 01:14:50,079
out there, so she loved it. She still raised hell,

1381
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:53,520
but it was still you know, uh it was easy

1382
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,720
to get her entertained otherwise because they had like these

1383
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:03,439
life size replicas of dinosaurs. The Wildflower Center, but also wildflower.

1384
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,479
Wildflower is just the weird world. Like, wildflower doesn't mean anything.

1385
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,159
If you see a wild they might want to think

1386
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:11,399
about a rebranding sometime. No, I'm you know, I'm not

1387
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,439
telling anybody what to do, but I'll be j you know,

1388
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,920
Wildflower Center might want to think about a rebranding. This is,

1389
01:15:18,039 --> 01:15:21,600
you know, in twenty years, if we're not all annihilated

1390
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,399
by a nuclear war, you know, by these fucking uh

1391
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,600
primate male humans who are so set on fucking setting

1392
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,680
the world on fire. You know, if we're still around,

1393
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,159
you might want to think about a rebrand. It's just

1394
01:15:32,359 --> 01:15:35,399
wildflower doesn't mean anything. The word wildflower, just like the

1395
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,319
Native plant Center. You know, if I was going to

1396
01:15:38,399 --> 01:15:41,239
start a native plant center, it'd be like the the

1397
01:15:41,359 --> 01:15:44,600
crime pays, fuck you native plant centers. You know, just

1398
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,119
like a blatant. They got to put a little aggressive

1399
01:15:47,159 --> 01:15:50,560
spin on it. You know, it's just innately kind of spiny.

1400
01:15:51,119 --> 01:15:53,760
It's which is good. It's like a cactus. It's like spiny,

1401
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,479
but then it's got a beautiful flower that it produces,

1402
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:01,399
and it's got a soft, squishy inside. But anyway, I

1403
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,640
was at the wild the Wildflower Center at'll bej and

1404
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,720
just on like a half mile away from it. On

1405
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,680
the drive there, you have to drive on this road

1406
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,319
you go past just this phalanx of crpe myrtles, Like

1407
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:18,199
just getting beaten over the head with these things. Just oh,

1408
01:16:18,279 --> 01:16:21,359
it's so painful. It's like with passing each one, I

1409
01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:23,079
feel like I'm getting macked in the forehead with a

1410
01:16:23,119 --> 01:16:25,720
two by four. I fucking hate crpe myrtles so much.

1411
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,840
They're so fucking just bottom of the brain stem, lowest

1412
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,920
common denominator, home deepot horticultural shit, you know. And the

1413
01:16:35,039 --> 01:16:37,239
thing is people like them for the flowers, which doesn't

1414
01:16:37,239 --> 01:16:40,319
fucking that doesn't mean anything whatever. These flowers is a

1415
01:16:40,399 --> 01:16:43,520
flowers a flower, all right. I mean if you like that,

1416
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,239
if you white, like the way that looks, you could

1417
01:16:45,319 --> 01:16:47,640
like the way a native plant looks. It has ecological

1418
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,359
context and supports all the pollinators and cool shit. But

1419
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,279
they like it for that smooth stunt, that smooth bark,

1420
01:16:54,079 --> 01:16:58,319
which like the fucking diasporos text aina our native Texas

1421
01:16:58,359 --> 01:17:01,399
per simmon gets that same smooth bark and looks way

1422
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,720
cooler and will grow out of fucking rock walls like

1423
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,640
I've seen them growing out of rock walls in a

1424
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:11,359
limestone canyon in Sanderson, you know, Texas per simma with

1425
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,760
with edible fruit too, for whatever. If you give a

1426
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,520
shit about that, is it edible? Is it edible or medicinal?

1427
01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:18,800
Can I can I eat it? Can I put it

1428
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,800
in my mouth and not die? I don't know who cares,

1429
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,199
but yes you can. In this case, it's just such

1430
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:27,880
a cooler play. They got a cooler pollination biology. The

1431
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,119
flowers are unisexual, so it promotes out crossing it just

1432
01:17:31,359 --> 01:17:34,479
you know. But uh, but that doesn't get planted as

1433
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,600
much and it takes longer to grow versus the dreadon

1434
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,800
crape myrtle. Anyway, Yeah, that is a side that was

1435
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,520
a RNT. But but I went to the Carnegie Museum

1436
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,279
in Pittsburgh because I fucking love museums, and and I

1437
01:17:47,399 --> 01:17:50,560
love especially in the natural history section. Like each I

1438
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,560
should do a review of all the natural history museums

1439
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,000
across the US. I've been going to museums forever, man,

1440
01:17:57,079 --> 01:17:59,159
even when I was still like riding freight trains and shit.

1441
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:00,760
I would still go to the museum. I'd stop in

1442
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,560
the city and I'd hit the different museums. Maybe sometimes

1443
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,960
the art museum too. That can be nice, but a

1444
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,199
little bit different of a crowd there, you know, sometimes

1445
01:18:10,279 --> 01:18:13,000
you see art that doesn't look like anything. But the

1446
01:18:13,079 --> 01:18:16,239
Natural History Museum is always fucking cool. You always get

1447
01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:19,319
a little context. And since natural history is such a

1448
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,880
regional thing, or can be such just like local specific thing,

1449
01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:27,279
you'll find, you know, every museum, depending on where you are,

1450
01:18:27,399 --> 01:18:32,319
we'll have a different exhibit focusing on the local natural

1451
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,159
history and geology of that region. And Carnigie Museum was

1452
01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:37,279
no different. It was fucking cool. Plus they've got the

1453
01:18:37,359 --> 01:18:40,159
art in there too. It's weird. Carnegie Museum in Pittsburgh's

1454
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:42,960
like a mixture of art and natural sciences. They had

1455
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,000
some nice dinosaurs. I took some pictures for my daughter,

1456
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,760
but uh oh yeah, they got a really cool uh

1457
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:56,199
what was it? How fuck ichthyosaur diorama? That was nice.

1458
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:00,520
But they got a whole piece on the history, the

1459
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,800
geologic history of Appalachia, which again was formed. If you

1460
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,920
look at a terrain map, a topographic layer. There are

1461
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,000
these you know, it looks like these wrinkles in the

1462
01:19:10,199 --> 01:19:14,119
in the Earth's skin that kind of coincide with the

1463
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:19,079
watchtah orogeny, the watchetah uplift that I was talking about earlier,

1464
01:19:19,079 --> 01:19:22,439
which again was the result of continental impact of a

1465
01:19:23,359 --> 01:19:28,880
of plate tectonics, of tectonic a convergent tectonic zone, basically Africa,

1466
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,159
the continent that was Africa or that is Africa now

1467
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,079
ramming in to you know, about three hundred million years ago,

1468
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:40,159
ramming into what is now the US, coming together to

1469
01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:44,239
form the super continent Pangaea, and then rifting apart again

1470
01:19:44,399 --> 01:19:47,359
one hundred million years later, like maybe like two hundred

1471
01:19:47,399 --> 01:19:51,600
million years ago, and that's when the Atlantic actually opened up.

1472
01:19:52,119 --> 01:19:53,520
And so that's why you've got and you've got the

1473
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:59,279
same rocks. There's so many geologic affinities between you know, Scotland,

1474
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:05,159
nor Northern Africa, Northwest Africa, Appalachia, Eastern Canada, et cetera.

1475
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:07,359
It's really fucking cool. I saw someone create a map,

1476
01:20:08,359 --> 01:20:10,159
it was like a week ago. It was on Instagram

1477
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,039
about that showing like the same mountains, the same rocks,

1478
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:19,520
and same rocks and same basically same mountain ranges in

1479
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:24,199
the Atlas Mountains of Morocco and southern Appalachia. They were

1480
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:27,119
the same same there was the same mountain chain at

1481
01:20:27,159 --> 01:20:30,000
one point before the Atlantic Ocean opened up, because there's

1482
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:31,920
a rift zone that goes up and down north and

1483
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,920
south through the Atlantic Ocean and then comes on board,

1484
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:40,319
comes up, uh, comes onto land around what is that Iceland,

1485
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,439
and then goes back down to the ocean, you know,

1486
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:47,079
like the seam of a baseball. So yeah, it was

1487
01:20:47,159 --> 01:20:49,880
in yeah, like parts of Norway where like there's geologic

1488
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:55,159
affinities between Norway and Canada, northern eastern northeastern Canada too. Yeah,

1489
01:20:55,159 --> 01:20:58,159
it's fucking cool to see. But so it's an old

1490
01:20:58,199 --> 01:21:00,520
mountain chain. But basically that's why the up lift happened

1491
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,520
in the first place. That's why you had that that

1492
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:07,199
you know, throw rug on a on a hardwood floor

1493
01:21:07,319 --> 01:21:10,840
thing going on, you know, throw rug bunched up against

1494
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,000
the door jam on a hardwood floor like an accordion.

1495
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,800
Really cool. So and another thing they had too, which

1496
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,319
was nice was they had like a map of the

1497
01:21:20,359 --> 01:21:25,720
state of Pennsylvania and it showed the difference you know,

1498
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,840
there's a difference in relief in the type of mountains

1499
01:21:29,239 --> 01:21:34,600
that you get in northern Pennsylvania versus southern Pennsylvania, Central

1500
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,680
and eastern Pennsylvania in the north and in the south.

1501
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,399
And it's because you know, and if you look at it,

1502
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,159
you could tell they had it was a really cool,

1503
01:21:41,399 --> 01:21:45,560
uh picture the mountain. The way that the mountains are

1504
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:51,000
sculpted looks different. They're much more wider valleys between the

1505
01:21:51,039 --> 01:21:53,159
mountains and the north. The mountain ridges, you know, because

1506
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:55,439
you've got all these parallel mountain ranges. Basically, those are

1507
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,520
all the folds from when you know, Africa rammed up

1508
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:03,439
into the east northwest, Africa rammed up into the east

1509
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,039
coast three hundred and twenty million years ago, whenever it

1510
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:09,760
was creating the uplifting the Wachita Mountains and uplifting Appalachia,

1511
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,880
and so those folds, you know, just like imagine a rug,

1512
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,920
you know, bunched up against the door jam. You're pushing

1513
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,560
it from one end. It's on a hardwood floor, and

1514
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:25,239
it starts bunching up folding. All those folds trend the

1515
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,880
like the ridges go you know, northeast to southwest and

1516
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,920
then and then they kind of bunch up going towards

1517
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,079
the north, well, the northern end in between those ridges,

1518
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,840
the valleys are a lot broader. They're like U shaped almost,

1519
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,720
and there they've been worn down a lot. It's because

1520
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,920
the glaciers. It's because of the glaciation, and you could

1521
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,840
see it. It's very vivid. It's like a very vivid change.

1522
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,840
If you look on you can kind of see it.

1523
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,279
If you look at a geologic map, like if you

1524
01:22:49,319 --> 01:22:52,079
go to Google Maps and put it in terrain layry,

1525
01:22:52,079 --> 01:22:55,119
you could see where the glaciation stopped, like basically right

1526
01:22:55,159 --> 01:22:58,880
at Interstate ninety nine, which runs you know, southwest to northeast.

1527
01:22:59,119 --> 01:23:04,279
It goes through lt Tuna up through Bellafonte and State College,

1528
01:23:06,359 --> 01:23:08,880
like northwest of that and north of that was where

1529
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,920
the glaciers were, and they just carved the shit out

1530
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,800
of the landscape. Like you can see a much different

1531
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,720
relief and you can see that the glaciers did not

1532
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,439
hit the Appalachian Mountains south of State College or south

1533
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,560
or east of State College, which is really fucking cool,

1534
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,920
and it's something you can't see unless you're like looking

1535
01:23:26,079 --> 01:23:27,920
at the terrain. You know, if you're looking at like

1536
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,039
a terrain map, then it becomes really obvious. You're like,

1537
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:33,800
oh but uh oh, man, it just gets great. I

1538
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,159
didn't know. I'm I'm so unfamiliar with this region. I've

1539
01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:41,079
got so much more exploring left to do, which is

1540
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,119
like also looking to get out of the United States

1541
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,119
because it could be such a tox successful at times.

1542
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,239
But it's nice to, you know, I have a little

1543
01:23:50,279 --> 01:23:54,199
bit of context for the geology and the rocks because

1544
01:23:54,239 --> 01:23:57,199
that dictates so much other shit that's going on on

1545
01:23:57,279 --> 01:24:00,119
the surface. It's really really fun stuff to see. The

1546
01:24:00,199 --> 01:24:04,079
fucking I highly recommend the Carnegie Museum if you get

1547
01:24:04,119 --> 01:24:07,680
a chance to go there, and I got like a

1548
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,800
The do reciprocal admission too, so I have membership with

1549
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,399
the museum here in South Texas, which is just a

1550
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,640
small little museum, but have membership with them gets me

1551
01:24:17,279 --> 01:24:19,520
gets me into the Carnegie for free, which I you know,

1552
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:24,119
I thought was pretty nice. So anyway, man, the fucking

1553
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:26,000
giants Cicatas are out. I did a video on them

1554
01:24:26,039 --> 01:24:28,760
three days ago. It should be up in a week

1555
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,199
or two. But god, they're so They're so annoying. I

1556
01:24:31,279 --> 01:24:33,640
love them, They're so amazing. It's just it's the most

1557
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,680
I've put them on. I've played them on here before

1558
01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:39,399
I'll play them again where you could just go watch

1559
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:43,479
the video. But it's the most obnoxious insect in North America, absolutely,

1560
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,319
one hundred and ten percent. It's fucking hilarious, and it

1561
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:50,800
starts out it's just like I mean, if you think

1562
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:52,960
the ones, if you think the seventeen year ones in

1563
01:24:53,079 --> 01:24:56,000
Chicago in the Midwest are bad, you got to hear

1564
01:24:56,039 --> 01:24:59,039
the giants. There's botanists I know down here who can't

1565
01:24:59,079 --> 01:25:03,239
stand them, like they give visibly upset hearing this insect.

1566
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:05,439
It makes me so happy. I think it's because I

1567
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,359
just think it's hilarious. You know, anything that's harmless and

1568
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,760
able to irritate the shit out of people to that extent,

1569
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:15,479
Oh my god, irritate the shit out of human beings

1570
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:20,199
that extent is my seal of approval. So I was

1571
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:22,680
out filming them the other There's not a lot you'll

1572
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,840
hear them sporadically here because so much of the habitat

1573
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,640
has been destroyed. They need the misky trees, miskeat and

1574
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:32,880
huisace huisace Is Vicelia pharnesiana. It's another mimosoid legumes, so

1575
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:37,600
it's in the mimosoid mimo soid e subfamily, just like

1576
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,199
you know mis gait and Senegelia bolandurai, the guahio. Another

1577
01:25:41,239 --> 01:25:44,840
great fucking tree Epinopsis the Texas ebony et cetera. But

1578
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:50,920
it's primarily nel Tuma glandulosa aka Prosopis glandulosa and Vicelia

1579
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:55,439
pharnisiana the aka huisace that these things are eating the

1580
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,319
roots of and living off of. And I guess they've

1581
01:25:57,359 --> 01:25:59,039
got a four year cycle, so they're on the ground

1582
01:25:59,039 --> 01:26:01,880
for four years and they up. But the cult of

1583
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,800
the lawn is so big down here. I bet people

1584
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,720
are spraying all kinds of shit they smell they sell

1585
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,279
that fucking insect fogger down here? Do they sell that it?

1586
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,359
Someone should just go vandalize that stuff at home, despot,

1587
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,279
like they sell like crates of this shit at the

1588
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,560
big box stores. It's crazy, man, It's like you're just

1589
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,800
gonna poison the fucking like, especially the more I've gotten

1590
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,039
into bugs, especially because my kid really likes them, Like,

1591
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:29,640
you're just gonna spray this insect fogger. That's so fucking gnarly, man,

1592
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,319
That's like, it's so obscene. You're just gonna kill everything.

1593
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,039
Not to mention shit for brand, because you're killing all

1594
01:26:36,039 --> 01:26:38,920
the cool stuff, like the dragonflies that will eat you know,

1595
01:26:39,039 --> 01:26:42,479
all the other quote pesky insects. You're killing the spiders too.

1596
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,159
I got this big ass tropical orb weaver that sets

1597
01:26:45,239 --> 01:26:49,039
up shop every night, sometimes right in my path, and

1598
01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:52,640
so I end up walking into her. But she's you know,

1599
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,199
like the size of a golf ball, big red, beautiful

1600
01:26:55,279 --> 01:26:57,520
pattern on her body. She's like a like a pinkish

1601
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:02,319
like a brick, like a pinkish mauve brick color. But yeah,

1602
01:27:02,359 --> 01:27:04,199
we get the tropical war weavers down here, and it's

1603
01:27:04,279 --> 01:27:06,640
kind of jolting at first, but she's you know, she's harmless,

1604
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,199
she's not gonna bite you, still wanting to do with you.

1605
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,279
But she's always out there catching moths and other insects

1606
01:27:12,319 --> 01:27:17,600
that walk into her little web. I was killing mosquitos

1607
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,000
with the electric tennis racket. It's so fun. I kill

1608
01:27:21,039 --> 01:27:23,760
like six a day. They're tiny, they're eighties at jipdi.

1609
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,960
They've got really fuzzy antenna. You can see them under

1610
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:32,039
a microscope. And yeah, and so I will kill him

1611
01:27:32,079 --> 01:27:34,520
and then feed them to the pinkwicula. This company called

1612
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,920
beaver Lab, which is based out of China sent me

1613
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,640
a microscope. They wrote me on Instagram and they were like,

1614
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,520
if we send you this microscope, will you do a

1615
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,159
video for us? And I said yes, but only because

1616
01:27:45,159 --> 01:27:47,239
I wanted the free microscope. I didn't really think I

1617
01:27:47,359 --> 01:27:49,039
was gonna end up doing a video. But then when

1618
01:27:49,039 --> 01:27:51,720
I actually looked at this thing, it's cool. It's like

1619
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,279
a microscope with a screen and you can take photo

1620
01:27:54,359 --> 01:27:57,760
and video, so it's like a It's like a microscope

1621
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,279
that you could take phone pictures with without having hold

1622
01:28:00,279 --> 01:28:02,239
your phone up to the eyepiece of the mic. It's

1623
01:28:02,279 --> 01:28:05,239
really fucking cool. And it comes with slides and cover

1624
01:28:05,399 --> 01:28:09,039
slips and little collection jars, and it's like meant for

1625
01:28:09,359 --> 01:28:11,640
being used with kids too, because it's got It comes

1626
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,279
with like a little booklet like the one I the

1627
01:28:14,359 --> 01:28:16,119
one I got I read with my daughter at night,

1628
01:28:17,039 --> 01:28:19,520
the one they sent us. It's got little drawings of

1629
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:23,279
like tartar grades and shit in there. But I was

1630
01:28:23,319 --> 01:28:25,159
so impressed because it was cool, I was like, all right,

1631
01:28:25,199 --> 01:28:28,199
I'll do a fucking video. I can incorporate this. I mean,

1632
01:28:28,239 --> 01:28:30,479
I ended up incorporating into a video just because I

1633
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,600
ended up actually using it to look at something that

1634
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,479
I was doing a video on I did a video

1635
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:41,800
on growing So Tall from seed That'ssilerian because man, there's

1636
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,159
just there's one of the plays I did to talk

1637
01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:46,359
at was this this So Tall distillery, and I didn't

1638
01:28:46,359 --> 01:28:48,359
meet anyone there. I'm sure they'll probably find people, but

1639
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,880
it just still sketches me out. And everyone I've mentioned

1640
01:28:51,359 --> 01:28:54,640
growing so Tall too, it's they're always like, like anybody

1641
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,079
who's a plant person, they're not growing so tall, but

1642
01:28:57,359 --> 01:28:59,039
the so tall booze, you know, because you can make

1643
01:28:59,079 --> 01:29:00,600
a booze out of soult, just like you make a

1644
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,680
booze out of a got. Any of the local Texas

1645
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,880
plant people I mentioned it too are kind of doing that.

1646
01:29:06,279 --> 01:29:08,960
They're like, oh shit, that sounds kind of sketchy. And

1647
01:29:09,079 --> 01:29:13,439
it's totally unsustainable because they're not farming this stuff. They're

1648
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,079
not actively growing it. It takes twenty years to reach

1649
01:29:16,199 --> 01:29:17,880
the stage at which you can harvest it. So they're

1650
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,840
going they're just going out the habitat and whacking it,

1651
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,800
you know, just fucking by the bushelful. And you know, yeah,

1652
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,359
there's a lot, and they got permission. It's fucking private property.

1653
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,479
Whatever cares if it's private property it's I mean, you know,

1654
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,359
my feelings not all that. It's yeah, it's cool. The

1655
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,760
landowner is okay with you taking it. What about all

1656
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,600
the other things that live there and depend on it?

1657
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,000
Are they all right with it? You know, you're like

1658
01:29:41,239 --> 01:29:46,000
you're stealing from the fucking biosphere and not replenishing, or

1659
01:29:46,039 --> 01:29:48,520
you're taking and not giving back. That's all so I was.

1660
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:50,800
But you know, I'm not trying to like take the

1661
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,279
shaming route with them. I just want to encourage more dialogue,

1662
01:29:56,039 --> 01:29:57,840
more of a come. We're just going to talk about

1663
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:02,399
more of a conversation what they say. We're just want

1664
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,159
to make it a converse. I just want people, I

1665
01:30:04,239 --> 01:30:05,800
just want to talk about more like oh, this shit,

1666
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:07,840
actually you do need to be growing this, you do

1667
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,199
need to be giving back, Like it's kind of fucked

1668
01:30:10,279 --> 01:30:14,399
up to just be, you know, taking bushels of this stuff,

1669
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:19,720
this plant that's an essential in habitat. You know, however

1670
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,600
often they're doing it and not not replanting it or

1671
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,199
growing more like if anything, like just for your own

1672
01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:27,800
pr so you don't look like, you know, it's like

1673
01:30:28,319 --> 01:30:32,720
totally like cynical American capitalist view, like just just do

1674
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,319
it for your pr you don't actually need to do

1675
01:30:34,359 --> 01:30:37,279
any but at least make it look like it. But seriously,

1676
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,680
you know, at least grow it whatever, because that's theilirium.

1677
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,000
It's super easy to grow from seed too, so it

1678
01:30:42,039 --> 01:30:43,920
all is. I've grown it so many times. It's just

1679
01:30:44,039 --> 01:30:46,439
you sew it. You sew the seeds, you collect. You

1680
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,159
can collect the shit ton of seeds. When the things

1681
01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:51,239
are flowering and fall the big flower spike, the wooden,

1682
01:30:51,399 --> 01:30:55,119
you know, gets upwards of like fucking I don't know,

1683
01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:58,199
twelve feet tall. I'll cut that wooden stalk off. It's

1684
01:30:58,239 --> 01:31:01,479
not what it's you know, it's not like true secondary growth.

1685
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,479
It's a monocop. But it's it feels like what it is,

1686
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,159
like a cane, can you know, beat your your friends

1687
01:31:06,199 --> 01:31:09,279
with it whatever. Use it as a walking stick. I

1688
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,199
use mine to flip the futon mattress in the back

1689
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:13,920
of my truck up when I'm done, like I just

1690
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:17,960
like use it as like a poker to push it back.

1691
01:31:18,079 --> 01:31:20,279
But but you know, you collect the seed, you sew it.

1692
01:31:20,359 --> 01:31:23,039
It's it doesn't need any there's no hot shit you

1693
01:31:23,119 --> 01:31:25,000
have to do to Germany. You don't need to stratify it,

1694
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,880
no treatment, nothing, you just sew it and just let

1695
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,960
it go. And uh, it takes a while to get going,

1696
01:31:31,119 --> 01:31:32,880
but you know, and you pot it up I mean

1697
01:31:33,279 --> 01:31:34,920
in the ground as best, but you pot it up

1698
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,680
and keep the competition away so it can get enough light.

1699
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:39,720
It needs the full sun and it gets going. It's fine.

1700
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,479
It's really easy to grow, and it's a beautiful fucking plant.

1701
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:48,279
Desillarian is a cool genus. You get Desialirian longesimum and quadranguletam,

1702
01:31:48,359 --> 01:31:53,039
the coalescent ones down in Mexico, there's a couple other

1703
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,399
coalescent ones. By coalescent, I mean it like gets a stalk,

1704
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,199
so it ends up looking like a trufula tree, you

1705
01:31:59,279 --> 01:32:02,000
know from the lower kind of like a stalked sodaal.

1706
01:32:02,119 --> 01:32:05,600
But uh, text saynum that's lear and text aynum and

1707
01:32:06,079 --> 01:32:08,840
Leo phylum and wheel right do not they're they're a

1708
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,680
cal a, isn't They don't form a trunk. But it's

1709
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:12,279
a great fucking planet, So I may not love it.

1710
01:32:12,359 --> 01:32:17,560
It's a great you know, new New World desert plants,

1711
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,279
so I just would love to see more people growing.

1712
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:24,680
It's related to Bocarnia, uh and Nolina, which are also

1713
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:28,680
really fucking cool. They're in that whole tribe No Nolinee

1714
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:34,439
from in the subfamily Nolanoidy. But Nolanoidy is like, it's

1715
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,279
all this asparagacy text on me. It's a fucking nightmare.

1716
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,319
The APG fucked it up so bad and made it

1717
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:41,960
so much more confusing than it needs to be. They

1718
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,800
should have kept all those subfamilies as their own independent families,

1719
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:48,720
but it's it's yeah, it's subfamily Nolinoidy. And then tribe Nolini,

1720
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:53,640
and Nolini has Bocarnia, which are the giant the quote

1721
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,199
ponytail palms. They're not a poem, but that's what they

1722
01:32:56,239 --> 01:32:58,319
call them, ponytail palms. They're like another you can get

1723
01:32:58,359 --> 01:33:00,319
them in like the home depot garden center as like

1724
01:33:00,399 --> 01:33:02,399
a house plant. But they get big as fuck. Their

1725
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:06,680
native to Puebla, Puebla in southern Mexico. It's really fucking

1726
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,439
cool genus. Some of them get huge, big bulbous trunk

1727
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,319
looks like a swollen base, like a like a upside

1728
01:33:12,319 --> 01:33:16,079
down light bulb kind of and uh. And then no Lina,

1729
01:33:16,199 --> 01:33:18,439
there's a ton of No Lina. We get cool Nolina's

1730
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:21,159
in Texas. You get Nolina. What is it Perry, I

1731
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,239
Palmer Perry, I some dead honky I don't know. And

1732
01:33:24,399 --> 01:33:27,199
uh and you get those in the Mohave Desert and

1733
01:33:27,239 --> 01:33:29,840
the Kingston Range, et cetera and other places. But yeah,

1734
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,279
so but anyway, I but I was doing this video

1735
01:33:33,359 --> 01:33:34,880
on that and I found I was looking at the

1736
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,399
soil the sand grains that I was using for the

1737
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,239
soil mix, and I ended up using the microscope that

1738
01:33:40,319 --> 01:33:42,600
these people sent me. Anyway, so it worked there. Fine.

1739
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:44,479
Now I'm trying to get another microscope out of them.

1740
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,960
Normally we charge for these for these VIDs. But you know,

1741
01:33:48,119 --> 01:33:51,000
since they approached me and I was originally intending on

1742
01:33:51,119 --> 01:33:53,560
scamming them first, just taking the product and not doing

1743
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,359
any video, I cut them some slack. You know, Hey, Lisapel,

1744
01:33:57,399 --> 01:34:00,239
you throw me another one of those microscopes. We could

1745
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:02,319
work something out, you know better yet, just tell me

1746
01:34:02,399 --> 01:34:05,640
when the truck is coming with the palette. No, I'm

1747
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:10,600
just kidding. I'm sorry. So uh yeah, anyway, that was

1748
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,840
but that was fucking great. And then I forgot to

1749
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,279
mention when we were in Chicago, Urban Rivers, which is

1750
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,479
that organization that's building those floating rafts with all the

1751
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,239
cool native plant habitat on it. In Chicago when we

1752
01:34:22,319 --> 01:34:24,479
were there, they were having like some anniversary they blew up.

1753
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:26,760
They got really popular. They had like a big street fest.

1754
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,840
People were coming by. They're planting more more of those,

1755
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,159
They're they're throwing more of those rafts in the Chicago River.

1756
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,560
They throw these floating rafts and they plant all these

1757
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,760
native plants like Hibiscus, mushodos and I mean, you know,

1758
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,880
plants that can tolerate very wet sites, like wet prairies

1759
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,720
or swamps. But there's a lot of there's a decent

1760
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,319
list of species that fit that profile that are native

1761
01:34:51,319 --> 01:34:54,239
to the Chicago region, and they plant those on these

1762
01:34:54,279 --> 01:34:57,000
floating rafts in the river, which is fucking It's still

1763
01:34:57,079 --> 01:34:58,880
so mind blowing to me, Like that river used to

1764
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,079
be so gnarly, man. I've almost fallen in it a

1765
01:35:01,119 --> 01:35:05,279
couple of times, painting graffiti, breaking into abandoned buildings, fucking

1766
01:35:05,359 --> 01:35:08,399
around as a kid, you know, doing whatever. I remember

1767
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,680
once I got chased by crackheads after I was painting

1768
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,800
this building on Where was it was? Unholsted? Fuck? Where

1769
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,479
was it? Maybe it was the south end of Goose Island.

1770
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,640
I can't remember, but these crackheads saw me painting some shit.

1771
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,960
They were smoking crack under this bridge and saw me

1772
01:35:24,079 --> 01:35:28,359
painting this building, and I had to walk by him

1773
01:35:28,359 --> 01:35:31,079
on my way out under this bridge, and they were like, hey, hey,

1774
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,439
you know, we're gonna call the police if you don't

1775
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,600
if you don't give us forty bucks, we're gonna call

1776
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,199
the police. And I didn't have any money at all.

1777
01:35:37,279 --> 01:35:39,800
I was like, first off, I don't have any money. Second,

1778
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,199
you're not gonna do like They're not gonna call the

1779
01:35:41,239 --> 01:35:43,439
fucking cops. You're gonna smoke a crack under a bridge.

1780
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,800
They were just trying to get money money off me,

1781
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:48,800
which is obvious, which is funny too. It's like, man,

1782
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:52,600
you see some like you see some derely kid painting graffiti,

1783
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,279
He's probably not the one that you're gonna hit the

1784
01:35:55,399 --> 01:35:57,920
jackpie with if you try to get money out of him.

1785
01:35:58,319 --> 01:36:01,520
But I basically I forget how it went, but I

1786
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:03,560
what exactly went done. But they tried to get money

1787
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,279
off me, and I was like, yo, fuck you, and

1788
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,239
I ran the other way. But you had to go

1789
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:11,039
under this bridge, this viaduct to get out. That was

1790
01:36:11,079 --> 01:36:12,840
a way, the only way to get back to the street,

1791
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,119
like Street Act says. So I ended up running the

1792
01:36:15,159 --> 01:36:17,920
other way, which was directly towards the river and having

1793
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,720
to like it was a chain link fence topped with

1794
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,039
razor wire along the Chicago River, and I had but

1795
01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:26,399
with nothing beneath it, there was nothing to stand on.

1796
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:31,000
So I was basically just like spider manning it laterally

1797
01:36:31,239 --> 01:36:33,600
across this fence that was held up over the river.

1798
01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:37,319
Oh fuck, it was so it was so gnarly. I

1799
01:36:37,399 --> 01:36:41,079
can't even remember the spot that I was painting either. God.

1800
01:36:41,159 --> 01:36:44,039
I was going through old photos at my mom's house

1801
01:36:44,079 --> 01:36:48,800
the other day looking at looking at like photos from

1802
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:50,560
back in that time period of my life. There's like shit,

1803
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,479
I don't even remember. There's photos of it of that

1804
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:54,800
those times, and I'm in them, but I forget. I

1805
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:57,600
don't even have recollection of it, which is kind of

1806
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,359
spooky and like things that I paint that I don't

1807
01:37:00,359 --> 01:37:02,319
have recollection, but anyway I have it. I ended up

1808
01:37:02,319 --> 01:37:05,600
having a spider man on this chain link fence, like

1809
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:07,680
just sticking my toes in the holes and holding on

1810
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,600
with my hands my fingers through the chain link and

1811
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,199
moving laterally across this fence to get away from these crackheads,

1812
01:37:14,199 --> 01:37:16,159
because yeah, there were like four or five of them, man,

1813
01:37:17,039 --> 01:37:18,960
And I ended up being fine, and I hid in

1814
01:37:19,039 --> 01:37:21,600
some tow yard. That's what the fence was too. It

1815
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,560
was for a towing yard, and I ended up hid

1816
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,359
hiding in the towing yard. It was like a towing

1817
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:32,039
or auto wreckers yard. And damn there where dogs are too.

1818
01:37:32,079 --> 01:37:33,479
I don't know, I forget it either way. I made

1819
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:36,039
it back to the street, to street level, back up

1820
01:37:36,079 --> 01:37:37,840
the street level, and I was fine because the streets

1821
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,560
above the river. But uh but I remember that I

1822
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,960
was thinking back and after that happened, and I was like, man,

1823
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,359
I almost fell in the fucking Chicago River. That's gnarly

1824
01:37:45,399 --> 01:37:48,720
as hell. It is. So it is like it had

1825
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,520
a smell to it, you know, it was like a

1826
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:56,520
bacteria smell or algae smell that it was like probably

1827
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,520
the only species of algae that could exist in that

1828
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:02,119
toxic as gnarly wall her you know. But now it's

1829
01:38:02,199 --> 01:38:04,720
like the water is actually relatively clean. They have fresh

1830
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,640
water muscles that they're growing in it. Granted the muscles

1831
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:13,000
are hanging from a box, uh, so they don't get

1832
01:38:13,039 --> 01:38:15,640
eaten by the muskrats. Louie killed a muskrat a year ago,

1833
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:19,239
and they brought that up. She's she's never killed shit,

1834
01:38:19,359 --> 01:38:23,960
She's only killed street rats before. She chases cats all

1835
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:25,479
the time. I let her do that if they're not

1836
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:28,800
like pet cats, if they're just farrels, And I let her.

1837
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:30,560
It's good for the cats, you know, and for the

1838
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,279
things that the cats try to kill. Uh. But she

1839
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,560
she broke off and went and attacked this fucking musk.

1840
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,760
I was so pissed, you know, if anything, because it

1841
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,399
made us look bad and it's the only time she's

1842
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:43,439
done that. I was so And they brought that up,

1843
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,159
you know, they were bringing they were digging that back up,

1844
01:38:49,039 --> 01:38:51,479
like they're like, because of Louie, we have a lot,

1845
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:55,520
we have a rule now. But uh, they were just

1846
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,960
kind of joking. I think actually the person who said

1847
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,239
it probably didn't like me. But you know, regardless, it

1848
01:39:01,359 --> 01:39:04,000
wasn't it wasn't an issue. Louis was a she was

1849
01:39:04,039 --> 01:39:06,840
a bad dog. But they have to use it. They

1850
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:08,760
actually have to use a dog on that dock anyway

1851
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,039
to keep the Canada geese. The Canada geese in Chicago

1852
01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:14,239
are fucking oh my god, they get wild. You know.

1853
01:39:14,279 --> 01:39:18,600
It's one of those those birds whose populations have probably explode,

1854
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:23,079
exploded because they thrive off of human off of human development.

1855
01:39:23,159 --> 01:39:26,319
But anyway, so urban rivers was, yeah, they were. They

1856
01:39:26,359 --> 01:39:29,000
were building more native planet docks. It's so nice, man,

1857
01:39:29,039 --> 01:39:31,399
it's such a nice little spot. And it gets like

1858
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,840
the growth there. You know, you'll be there in March

1859
01:39:35,319 --> 01:39:38,079
when nothing started to grow yet, and then you go

1860
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:40,800
in June or July and it's a thicket. It's like

1861
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,359
a it's a sound bearer. You can't see through it

1862
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,319
or over it. It gets up like four or five

1863
01:39:45,359 --> 01:39:50,520
feet tall, six feet tall. It's really dense. You know.

1864
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,920
All that prairie shit, all the prairie shit too, is

1865
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,039
the same way in that reason, Like it goes from

1866
01:39:56,039 --> 01:39:58,479
there being nothing there to getting upwards a six or

1867
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:01,039
seven feet tall and just being the dense thicket by

1868
01:40:01,079 --> 01:40:02,600
the end of August. But then the span of three

1869
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,920
or four months you have this massive eruption of biomass.

1870
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:07,600
It's so nice, it was. It's always so nice to

1871
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,439
go through the prairie too. God, I was fucking loving it.

1872
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,960
You know, all the singing insects. You know what I

1873
01:40:13,119 --> 01:40:16,800
noticed too, is the sound of those Katie DIDs is

1874
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,439
what is it? Fucking it's like, and they come out

1875
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,199
at night and their way up in the trees. I

1876
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:26,680
don't even know what species that is, but I was

1877
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,159
in Saint Louis and I was in there all over Chicago.

1878
01:40:30,359 --> 01:40:32,880
It's it's really pleasant. I love the sound of the

1879
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,800
singing insects. It's like a psychedelic almost. That's why I

1880
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:39,680
loved cicadas too. It's like a fucking psychedelic experience. There

1881
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,560
was a cicada species I heard in a cactus forest

1882
01:40:44,199 --> 01:40:48,319
in southeastern Wahaka near the border with Chiappas years ago,

1883
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,840
and I remember being in this cactus forest and just

1884
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,359
being intoxicated with the sound of these things. It was

1885
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:56,000
so fucking cool. I recorded some video of it. It

1886
01:40:56,079 --> 01:40:58,720
was before I was really doing videos, so it's just

1887
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:02,079
the video of the sound. There's it's kind of nice.

1888
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:05,199
I'm not talking in it at all, but it was

1889
01:41:05,319 --> 01:41:08,000
a yeah, and there's all kinds of cool dry land

1890
01:41:08,039 --> 01:41:11,319
bermeliads all over the ground, hectia and there's tulansai recravata

1891
01:41:11,359 --> 01:41:15,399
on everything, and it was neo bus bombia and nuda

1892
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:20,000
which is now cephalos serious noudah. But uh, these big

1893
01:41:20,079 --> 01:41:22,760
green totem poles. They're like these you know, tall columnar

1894
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,079
cacta that don't really branch, and if they do branch,

1895
01:41:25,159 --> 01:41:31,119
the arms stay really close to the main stem. Oh god,

1896
01:41:31,199 --> 01:41:33,880
but yeah, what cicada species was that? But they were

1897
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,159
fucking it was a cacophony. It was so loud and wonderful.

1898
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:41,159
And so when I did this video on the giant cicadas,

1899
01:41:41,199 --> 01:41:44,000
that's what it sounded like. Was you know, it was

1900
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,680
a different call obviously because it's a different species of cicada,

1901
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,640
but it's permeating everything. It's everywhere, and it was dark out.

1902
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:54,880
It was at my friend's house. She's got like sixty

1903
01:41:55,239 --> 01:41:58,199
maybe thirty acres, I don't know, and it's like, you know,

1904
01:41:58,359 --> 01:42:00,439
becoming the only island of hap with that. If you're

1905
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,720
looking at a satellite map, it's the only green island

1906
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,600
around it. They just okay to another housing development behind

1907
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,479
their house, which is depressing as fuck. You know, it's

1908
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,039
a spot where there had been a farm and a

1909
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:14,119
house and now it's gonna be like, you know, eighty

1910
01:42:14,239 --> 01:42:17,079
McMansions for phrases, and people that want the shiny shit,

1911
01:42:17,159 --> 01:42:19,920
lay masses that want the shiny shit, you know, Yeah,

1912
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,680
sure they're nice, they're fucking whatever, you know, whatever. No,

1913
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:27,119
it's you, no to each their own what. It's fucking lame.

1914
01:42:27,239 --> 01:42:30,800
It sucks. It's like that. Lifestyle sucks. The shiny shit sucks.

1915
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,720
The fucking value system is poisonous as fuck. It's empty,

1916
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:38,560
it's disconnected from anything real and alive. It's just a

1917
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:43,720
fucking fucking boring drag man, you know, all concerned with status,

1918
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:48,520
with you know, impressing your fucking fellow social primates, needing

1919
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,279
validation from them for the for your lawn or your

1920
01:42:51,399 --> 01:42:54,239
nice car or whatever. Stupid shit. It's just fucking you know,

1921
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:58,520
more bottom of the brain stem shit, lowest common denominator shit.

1922
01:42:59,319 --> 01:43:01,079
But there was a car, a car sitting on this

1923
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:05,640
miscuit when I was filming during the day. I was

1924
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:06,920
there during the day, and then I went back at

1925
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:08,880
night because they were louder at night. The cicadas are

1926
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,720
loud at night, they're actually singing. But there was a car,

1927
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,840
a car when I was there during the day, I

1928
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:16,439
was looking at them across this canal, and he was

1929
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:18,880
just sitting there near this pile of garbage where they

1930
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,640
demolished the house and also pushed up bulldozed all the

1931
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,880
all the vegetation, and he was just looking for shit

1932
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:32,560
to eat, probably looking for like little lizards or fucking

1933
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:37,479
road and scurrying whatever. Car cars are so cool. How

1934
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:39,159
far north did they go in at Texas? You get

1935
01:43:39,239 --> 01:43:42,560
them in Austin, I don't know, probably anyway, but yeah,

1936
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:44,880
the cicada thing was fucking cool. I'm stoked about that.

1937
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:49,479
Video came out really nice. There Caesada gigas, the giant cicada.

1938
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,479
They go all the way down into northern Argentina. I

1939
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,600
was hearing them because their call is unmistakable. It's so

1940
01:43:55,840 --> 01:44:01,079
incredibly annoying. Their call was in Carreto and Guanajuato when

1941
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:05,039
I was there, and the huisace trees above this small

1942
01:44:05,079 --> 01:44:07,840
little canyon where the lafaffred, the fusa and the Strombo

1943
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:13,439
cactus was Yeah, God damn. I love them so much.

1944
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,399
It's crazy how much joy it fills me with. And

1945
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,760
they're just hilarious. They're these weird, harmless bugs. My daughter

1946
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:23,000
was playing with them. They're huge, they're like green and

1947
01:44:23,079 --> 01:44:28,039
these beautiful colors. And there were American snout butterflies out

1948
01:44:28,119 --> 01:44:30,720
that night too. They had just all been passing through

1949
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:34,279
migrating south, like, it's so fucking cool paying attention to bugs. Now,

1950
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:38,680
I used to never care, never care, wouldn't give it

1951
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,520
a second thought unless it looked really weird, and even

1952
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:43,399
then I wouldn't. Now I'm like, oh God, what is

1953
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,279
it do in the ecosystem? Is it eating something? Is

1954
01:44:45,319 --> 01:44:48,039
it pollinating something? Is it you know, is it using

1955
01:44:48,119 --> 01:44:50,199
something as a host plant? Is it living in the ground,

1956
01:44:50,279 --> 01:44:54,039
is it living in water? What does it do? You know?

1957
01:44:54,199 --> 01:44:56,279
It's like, that's the shit I asked when I meet

1958
01:44:56,359 --> 01:44:58,840
a new organism. It's not can I put it in

1959
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:05,319
my mouth and not die? It's just, oh God, that

1960
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,840
drives me nuts. I put out a I wrote a

1961
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:12,760
tweet about that today on x on elon musk x

1962
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:20,279
fucking weirdo, fucking rich freak. But I put a tweet

1963
01:45:20,319 --> 01:45:23,680
about that today, and uh it was funny. It was

1964
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:25,600
just it was this long tweet. Oh yeah, you know what,

1965
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,479
I'll read it to you right now. Okay, here we go.

1966
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,000
It was, uh yeah. I look forward to the day

1967
01:45:31,039 --> 01:45:32,800
when I hear a lay person learn what a new

1968
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,560
plant is and not ask what does it do? Is

1969
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:39,159
it medicinal or edible? The concept of every species in

1970
01:45:39,239 --> 01:45:41,760
the biosphere is a vital piece of a living machine

1971
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,439
that sustains all of life on Earth. Should be taught

1972
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:46,359
early on. I think like first grade is a good

1973
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,079
good time to start. This is more than just corny,

1974
01:45:49,159 --> 01:45:51,560
cliched ear candy. The more you learn about every bit

1975
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,239
of the living world around you, the more fascinating. Everything

1976
01:45:54,359 --> 01:46:03,079
becomes a dense web of connections. Plants, pollinators, dispersers, decomposer's insects, fungi, protus, bacteria,

1977
01:46:03,239 --> 01:46:06,680
or keia. Accumulate enough experiences and what remains of the

1978
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,079
living world outside of human asphalt and concrete, and this

1979
01:46:10,239 --> 01:46:13,199
notion becomes something that underpins an understanding of your own

1980
01:46:13,279 --> 01:46:17,880
existence of this world and your slash are irrefutable membership

1981
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:21,880
in and responsibility to it, and that that as innocuous

1982
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,239
as that is, still found a fucking way to trigger

1983
01:46:24,319 --> 01:46:26,880
someone to write a shitty company, to write a ship.

1984
01:46:27,119 --> 01:46:30,039
I had to block some dude after writing this. He

1985
01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:32,720
was in he was in Britain. He was He was

1986
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:36,119
like a smarmy British guy, probably with probably a rich kid.

1987
01:46:36,199 --> 01:46:38,560
It sounded like, because you can only talk, you can

1988
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:42,439
only behave that condescending and smug to someone if you've

1989
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:44,800
never been popped in the face for actually talking like

1990
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,520
that to someone, you know what I mean, like the

1991
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,359
people that or you have to have something that's insulating you,

1992
01:46:49,399 --> 01:46:52,640
whether it's wealth or you just don't go outside or whatever.

1993
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,439
But this guy responded to this. I'm not even gonna

1994
01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:57,720
read his response. I have to dig through a bunch

1995
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,039
of shit to find it. And he said he was

1996
01:46:59,119 --> 01:47:02,039
like smarmy as fuck to someone else too, like some

1997
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:05,880
like innocent guy to comment that he was just you know,

1998
01:47:06,039 --> 01:47:08,000
I forget what he said, but it was like harmless

1999
01:47:08,039 --> 01:47:11,840
with this guy, this guy that he responded to comment anyway,

2000
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,439
but the guy was just smug in a fucking dick,

2001
01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:17,239
And I ended up comming to the guy. I was like, man,

2002
01:47:17,319 --> 01:47:20,840
you know you're like you probably find a way to

2003
01:47:21,039 --> 01:47:24,439
fucking sound the meaning and condescending if you're talking in

2004
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:27,720
your sleep, like how do you not like read the room,

2005
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:29,279
like you don't need to say it, Like you could

2006
01:47:29,319 --> 01:47:32,800
be nice, you could fucking whatever. So anyway, he just

2007
01:47:33,039 --> 01:47:36,920
he was some at one point too, I said, and

2008
01:47:37,039 --> 01:47:40,000
this is kind of funny. I was like he because

2009
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:41,560
he was making it so he was doing like the

2010
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,279
poor me thing, like oh, I didn't, you know, the

2011
01:47:44,359 --> 01:47:46,840
guy was like an obvious prick, and he sounded like

2012
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:48,920
this a number of times. There were other times he

2013
01:47:49,279 --> 01:47:52,199
left something social media's is to fucking toilet in Twitter especially,

2014
01:47:52,279 --> 01:47:55,920
of course, But there were other times he had said

2015
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,520
something and I was like, oh God, like what is this?

2016
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:00,279
The fuck is this guy? I'm just gonna know, like

2017
01:48:00,319 --> 01:48:02,640
it's kind of a dick thing that he the way

2018
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:05,760
that he put it, but maybe he just doesn't, you know.

2019
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:07,399
And then there were other times where it was like, Okay,

2020
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,479
this guy's being a fucking schmuck. So after five times,

2021
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,439
I was just like I said something and I was like,

2022
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:15,439
you know, can you just fucking stuff, like learn some manners,

2023
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,239
take your fucking meds. I don't know what it is,

2024
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:21,560
you know, And he had said I forget what he said.

2025
01:48:22,039 --> 01:48:24,640
I actually have to look at this. Hold on. Yeah,

2026
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:27,720
that's what it was. I said something. I said something

2027
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,720
in response to someone else, like just answering the question

2028
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,800
someone had, and uh, you know, I think it was

2029
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,600
about whether something's edible. And I was like, yeah, some

2030
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:38,199
of the last thing I ask not really interested. But

2031
01:48:38,319 --> 01:48:40,920
you can generally make assumptions. Don't put anything in your

2032
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:44,239
mouth without knowing what something is down a species level ID.

2033
01:48:44,319 --> 01:48:47,359
But you can generally make assumptions because certain plant families,

2034
01:48:47,399 --> 01:48:51,479
like a post ace, you know, have have chemical synapomorphies.

2035
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:55,079
They certain plant families are known for heaven, for producing

2036
01:48:55,119 --> 01:48:59,760
toxic stuff renunculecs, one of them a post and ac.

2037
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,319
There's exceptions in every family. There's a lot of members

2038
01:49:02,359 --> 01:49:06,119
of the Carrett family like poison, hemlock, water hemlock, uh

2039
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:10,640
coneum meculatum is I think that's his emmaculatum anyway? Uh,

2040
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,920
that produced very toxic compounds like ferano kumer. In secondary

2041
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,760
chemistry you also get that and rue tasy, but it's

2042
01:49:18,399 --> 01:49:21,760
rut tasy. I don't think is jenny generally toxic? But anyway,

2043
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:26,159
there's chemical similarities between various plants and a certain family,

2044
01:49:26,239 --> 01:49:29,319
et cetera. And he said something that was just so

2045
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:30,960
fucking smug, And I was like, look, man, why are

2046
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:32,279
you Why do you sound like like, why are you

2047
01:49:32,399 --> 01:49:34,920
saying it like that? Can you not that sounds condescending

2048
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,000
as fuck? This is like the And he was like,

2049
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:40,239
he responded with I'm just disagreeing with you. It was like, no,

2050
01:49:40,319 --> 01:49:42,439
you're not disagreement, you're being kind of a dick, like

2051
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:44,920
can you say it differently? You know? And then he

2052
01:49:45,039 --> 01:49:46,640
was like, are you just used to people not arguing

2053
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:48,439
with you? And I was like, people argue with me

2054
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:50,800
all the fucking time. I grew up arguing. I'm a

2055
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:53,079
fucking wop. I lived in a fan like I lived

2056
01:49:53,079 --> 01:49:55,800
in a household where people were screaming at each other

2057
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:58,239
one week and then the next week they'd be fine,

2058
01:49:58,279 --> 01:50:01,079
playing cards together whatever. Like, it's not that you're arguing,

2059
01:50:01,119 --> 01:50:03,960
you're being a fucking dick, like, and then I made

2060
01:50:04,039 --> 01:50:06,199
the comment, I was like, what are you fucking autistic

2061
01:50:06,319 --> 01:50:09,319
or something? You can't read the room? And then he responded,

2062
01:50:09,359 --> 01:50:12,039
which is, you know, I'm probably fucking autistic. I'm I

2063
01:50:12,199 --> 01:50:17,079
diagnosed add I'm a fucking nut. But I uh, but

2064
01:50:17,199 --> 01:50:19,399
he he did this pearl clutching shit back to me.

2065
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:22,800
He's like, how dare you? You know how petulant? First off?

2066
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:26,279
Who uses words like petulant and you know, accepts accept

2067
01:50:26,359 --> 01:50:29,880
some fucking you know, godfree, That's what it's. That's what

2068
01:50:30,039 --> 01:50:35,840
it's petulant. Just so petulant. Who calls someone petulant, you know,

2069
01:50:36,159 --> 01:50:37,560
like to the you know what I mean, like not

2070
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:39,640
like writing it down, not write like, not like in

2071
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,600
a piece of literature, but in a fucking every day

2072
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,279
talk who uses words like petulant, like god, shut the

2073
01:50:45,359 --> 01:50:50,039
fuck up. Uh. And so anyway, he was, uh, you know,

2074
01:50:50,119 --> 01:50:51,840
he's like, what are you? Are you? How dare you

2075
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,600
shame people for being neuro atypical? And I was like, oh,

2076
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,079
give it a fucking rest, shut up. I'm like, I'm

2077
01:50:57,159 --> 01:50:59,359
one to talk. I'm fucking nuts. I'm out of my mind.

2078
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,760
To what do you think? I'm like, you think I'm

2079
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:05,119
I of all people, am shaming someone? No, I generally

2080
01:51:05,199 --> 01:51:08,279
think that's a trait. Sometimes autistic people can't read the

2081
01:51:08,319 --> 01:51:10,960
fucking room and don't know how they're coming off, or

2082
01:51:11,039 --> 01:51:13,640
that they sound like a dicky. You're either that or

2083
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:15,279
you're like a rich kid who's never been popped in

2084
01:51:15,319 --> 01:51:17,800
the mouth before for talking down to people. Anyway, the

2085
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,319
point was, plus he was just British too, which is

2086
01:51:20,359 --> 01:51:22,199
I think that's something they do over there. No offense

2087
01:51:22,239 --> 01:51:25,960
to anybody in the UK, you know, no offense to

2088
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,520
anybody across the pond. I'm just saying I've noticed there's

2089
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:32,479
cultural traits, especially among the wealthy in that country. They

2090
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,520
have a way of talking that comes off as very

2091
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:38,399
very snide and condescending. But uh, anyway, I don't even

2092
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:39,800
know why I started talking about this. I just thought

2093
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,039
I just think it was funny. And this guy's like

2094
01:51:42,119 --> 01:51:45,159
online anyway. I ended up telling him like he's online

2095
01:51:45,159 --> 01:51:47,399
all the time, and I telling him I was like, oh, well,

2096
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:49,760
go fucking miss your orchids or something. Body scram get

2097
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:51,720
out of here. You know you're right, time enough internet

2098
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,560
for you. If you can't be nice, log off. All right.

2099
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,880
You want to like talk about something or or tell

2100
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:01,239
me something I don't know, or or share an anecdote,

2101
01:52:01,279 --> 01:52:03,279
go ahead. But many you start talking like that to

2102
01:52:03,399 --> 01:52:06,479
me or anyone else, you can go fuck yourself. So

2103
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,399
uh anyway, I forget how I got to talking about this,

2104
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:14,960
but it's fucking amusing. Imagine that. It's just crazy the

2105
01:52:15,079 --> 01:52:17,520
way people again, the way the way you behave in

2106
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:22,359
a car or online, like anyone does this. It's it's

2107
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:26,199
so far removed from consequences. It's like it's these such

2108
01:52:26,279 --> 01:52:31,920
alienating bubbles. You know, the last thing I wanted to

2109
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:33,920
talk about before I step out, because it's been two

2110
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,439
hours already, I'm surprised you're even listening. Still. But uh,

2111
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:37,800
the last thing I want to talk about was I

2112
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:41,279
had stopped at Missouri Botanical Garden when I did that

2113
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,279
video on the herbarium, which was incredible. It's such a

2114
01:52:44,359 --> 01:52:47,960
fucking great spot to lurk. I could have spent I mean,

2115
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,439
that's easily That arbarium is easily a place you could

2116
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:52,319
hang out for a week and not be bored. They've

2117
01:52:52,399 --> 01:52:54,840
got plants from all over the fucking world. It's so

2118
01:52:56,079 --> 01:52:59,840
so incredible. But uh, I don't know if you if

2119
01:53:00,239 --> 01:53:02,239
if you've seen the video that I did, there was

2120
01:53:02,319 --> 01:53:07,520
the Czardini collection. This this woman Else's Ardini. She was Argentinian.

2121
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,960
She was German, but she moved to Argentina. I don't

2122
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,840
know what that was about. If it was like, eh,

2123
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:19,159
anytime you get somebody moving from Germany to the you know,

2124
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:23,479
Argentina or Paraguay, mid century, it gets you know, mid

2125
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,720
twentieth century gets a little gets a little hairy. You

2126
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:30,880
know they're they're reasoning for doing so. But anyway, but

2127
01:53:31,039 --> 01:53:34,119
it was this whole aisle was filled with her specimens

2128
01:53:34,159 --> 01:53:38,960
and it was hilarious because every specimen was just smushed

2129
01:53:39,079 --> 01:53:41,399
in there, like it was like no preparation was taken

2130
01:53:42,199 --> 01:53:46,239
to press this thing in a way that it was preserved,

2131
01:53:46,359 --> 01:53:47,680
you know, in a way that you could see it

2132
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:49,680
at all. It was like it was just literally smushed.

2133
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,319
It looks like it looked like salad greens. For these

2134
01:53:52,359 --> 01:53:55,279
are barium collections, you know, salad greens had just been

2135
01:53:55,359 --> 01:53:57,800
smushed in between two pieces of cardboard on like the

2136
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:02,960
front seat of someone's on the set, you know, so

2137
01:54:03,199 --> 01:54:05,199
and God, there was so much stuff there, and a

2138
01:54:05,239 --> 01:54:07,800
lot of it wasn't idd yet. I mean, it looks

2139
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,520
like for me, it was like a horder nightmare because

2140
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:13,560
you've got all this stuff. You can't get rid of it,

2141
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,840
because you never know if there might be an undrescribed

2142
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:18,119
species in there is something valuable, But at the same time,

2143
01:54:18,159 --> 01:54:20,479
you can't do anything with it. It would require so

2144
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:24,600
much work and time to go through and and sort

2145
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:28,920
it and organize it and figure out what can be identified,

2146
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,720
who is going to be able to identify it, et cetera.

2147
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,039
It's just, man, it was like giving me a panic

2148
01:54:35,039 --> 01:54:36,960
attack looking at the thing. It was kind of funny.

2149
01:54:39,199 --> 01:54:41,199
I don't know, I don't know, like if you're going

2150
01:54:41,279 --> 01:54:44,000
to put all that time. There were like sixty thousand

2151
01:54:44,119 --> 01:54:49,479
collections sixty thousand vouchers that this lady collected that were

2152
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:53,560
never will probably never be mounted, Like they'll never be mounted.

2153
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:56,600
There's no id for a lot of them. There was one,

2154
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:01,239
you know, there was stuff there. Look, I identify a

2155
01:55:01,279 --> 01:55:04,000
Perscia while I was there, Like it was obviously Pereskia,

2156
01:55:04,079 --> 01:55:06,920
probably pereski a koliata and it had just been labeled.

2157
01:55:07,279 --> 01:55:11,800
They see it was you know, it's a vining cactus. Uh,

2158
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,880
And it was you know, there was I guess there

2159
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:17,439
was decent data on it, but it was just fucking

2160
01:55:18,199 --> 01:55:21,760
just smashed them between these two pieces of cardboard and

2161
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:24,319
thrown in a folder. And then you know, the whole

2162
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:28,520
this whole corridor was just packed on either side with

2163
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:34,119
old specimens. God damn, It's just like, what's gonna happen,

2164
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:39,720
What's gonna happen there? But uh, but the rest of this,

2165
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:41,600
I mean, the rest of the stuff was just I'd

2166
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:44,000
never really gotten a chance to look at the specimens

2167
01:55:44,039 --> 01:55:46,239
there either. It's cool. They've got two different buildings and

2168
01:55:46,479 --> 01:55:49,159
all the monocots and some other plant families are in

2169
01:55:49,239 --> 01:55:52,319
this other building versus the one that I started off filming,

2170
01:55:52,399 --> 01:55:53,920
and that's the one that I ended up going to

2171
01:55:54,079 --> 01:55:58,079
with Peter Burnhert later and looking up Belowzia's such a

2172
01:55:58,119 --> 01:56:02,760
cool genus. Ended up looking up belowsias and hanging around.

2173
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:04,359
And plus you don't time to go to the urbarium.

2174
01:56:04,359 --> 01:56:07,359
There's always cool stuff on the walls, cool posters, cool stuff.

2175
01:56:07,399 --> 01:56:10,000
It's just a nice place to lurk and hang out,

2176
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:15,279
you know. So uh yeah, I don't know. I think

2177
01:56:15,319 --> 01:56:17,880
you can go there by appointment. You have to schedule it.

2178
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,239
And definitely if you're you know, a research you're affiliated

2179
01:56:20,239 --> 01:56:24,520
with some institution, you can do it. You just have

2180
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:26,920
to schedulely, have to reach out to someone at Missouri

2181
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,079
Botanic Garden. But I didn't realize, man, they had seven

2182
01:56:29,199 --> 01:56:33,600
million specimens there. That's fucking crazy. It's right up there

2183
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:37,359
with New York Botanica Garden too, which is another huge erbarium.

2184
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:42,359
And I've still never been to Shaw Nature Reserve, which

2185
01:56:42,479 --> 01:56:44,880
is west of Saint Louis. It's like a little glade

2186
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,319
they've got they've got some native stuff, there's some that's

2187
01:56:47,479 --> 01:56:49,439
I guess, there's some parts of it that are a restoration,

2188
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:53,720
and there's other areas that are like the glade areas

2189
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:57,359
are We're never demolished in the first place. I might

2190
01:56:57,399 --> 01:57:02,399
be fucking that up. I might be totally wrong, but yeah,

2191
01:57:02,439 --> 01:57:04,680
they've got some really cool plants there. I know, the

2192
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,159
these whole this whole section of the country again. I

2193
01:57:07,279 --> 01:57:09,720
just it's it's it's been overlooked. I haven't spent much

2194
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,920
time there, and there's like big it's like a big

2195
01:57:13,399 --> 01:57:15,520
blank spot on the map for me, you know, like

2196
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:18,399
all these other places I've been, I've got, you know,

2197
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:23,920
collections and photographs from these places, you know, all over

2198
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,479
the country, but like the north, it's but the Northeast

2199
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:29,359
and the central and a lot of places in the

2200
01:57:29,439 --> 01:57:33,600
southeast too, and uh like basically like the holiest coast,

2201
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:37,039
you know, the whole eastern half of the United States.

2202
01:57:37,039 --> 01:57:39,039
I got to start spending more time. There's a bunch

2203
01:57:39,079 --> 01:57:42,560
of cool shit I want to see in Georgia again. Glades.

2204
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:48,840
I'm really into glades and dry rocky sites and probably bogs.

2205
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:50,399
I could probably do a bog or two, you know,

2206
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,960
do get some aquatic stuff. Generally not my thing, though,

2207
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:56,560
I'm much more enthusiastic about the dry sites. See the

2208
01:57:56,600 --> 01:58:00,239
coolest evolutionary adaptations there. Anyway, I'll kill it for out,

2209
01:58:00,479 --> 01:58:05,079
but Uh. Yeah, I'm gonna be speaking at Cactus Smart. No, No,

2210
01:58:05,199 --> 01:58:07,399
I'm not speaking. I'm just gonna have a table selling

2211
01:58:07,439 --> 01:58:10,239
some books and shirts and shit like old old T

2212
01:58:10,399 --> 01:58:13,800
shirts I gotta gotta unload. I'll probably be selling for cheap.

2213
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:18,960
I'm gonna be speaking at San Antonio Botanical Garden. When

2214
01:58:19,079 --> 01:58:21,960
is it the September twenty sixth hole in Okay? Yeah,

2215
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,520
I'll be speaking at San Antonio Botanical Garden, giving a

2216
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:28,880
presentation I'm cacked I both from South Texas and South

2217
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:33,239
America on September twenty seventh Friday, September twenty seventh, and

2218
01:58:33,319 --> 01:58:36,479
then I'll be at the Oklahoma City Mushroom Fair their

2219
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:42,119
Fungus Festival October twelfth. And there's a slight chance I

2220
01:58:42,199 --> 01:58:44,880
might be teaching a class, an enter to botany class

2221
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:48,239
at Sewell Ross University in Alpine, Texas this fall, but

2222
01:58:48,359 --> 01:58:50,119
I don't know. I probably shouldn't be doing it because

2223
01:58:50,119 --> 01:58:52,399
they've got too much shit going on and I'm burning

2224
01:58:52,439 --> 01:58:54,680
the candle at both ends. But it would be really

2225
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,159
fun to teach a botany class, and even if I

2226
01:58:57,199 --> 01:59:01,319
can get one student to change their major from fucking

2227
01:59:02,159 --> 01:59:04,920
whatever they're doing, whatever they're going at school for it's

2228
01:59:05,079 --> 01:59:07,439
not as cool as biology and botany. I guarantee, I

2229
01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:09,880
fucking guarantee you that even if I could do that,

2230
01:59:10,319 --> 01:59:12,199
I will feel like I will have felt like I

2231
01:59:12,279 --> 01:59:17,039
actually did something decent uh with uh with this year.

2232
01:59:17,199 --> 01:59:20,279
So anyway, that's all I got for today. There'll be

2233
01:59:20,319 --> 01:59:23,319
a bunch of videos coming out the Giants Ciccada when

2234
01:59:23,319 --> 01:59:24,840
I'm stoked about. I've still got a whole bunch of

2235
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:27,640
videos to edit from a prairie in Cleveland, a cool

2236
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:31,800
site north of Pittsburgh, uh and that kind of shit.

2237
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:34,039
And then I'm supposed to be finishing up this other

2238
01:59:34,119 --> 01:59:36,319
book I'm doing, which is fucking driving me nuts, and

2239
01:59:36,399 --> 01:59:38,840
that should be done in November, and then after that

2240
01:59:39,039 --> 01:59:42,000
I'll be doing a bunch more international trips and traveling

2241
01:59:42,039 --> 01:59:45,600
around looking at plants. I want to go to, uh

2242
01:59:46,079 --> 01:59:50,359
some ultramaphic sites in Saba, like northern Borneo. I want

2243
01:59:50,439 --> 01:59:53,720
to go back to southern Chile. And I don't know,

2244
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:55,680
if you got a spy you could recommend let me know,

2245
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:58,840
you know, maybe it did. Maybe maybe I'll go to Jordan.

2246
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:02,439
Maybe there's some cool stuff. Go see Jimnrena, that weird

2247
02:00:03,359 --> 02:00:06,960
monotypic subfamily of Asta racy. Anyway, that's all. I gotta

2248
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:54,479
have a grocery day, Go fuck it up by H