Speaker 1: Weird thing, weird, weird.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess this will be really casual. It's kind
Speaker 2: of not my thing to be super professional and over produced.
Speaker 2: So if you listen to the show, you probably know
Speaker 2: that this is my sister Emily. She's going to be
Speaker 2: joining me today. I wanted to give a special shout
Speaker 2: out and a thank you to our light being, to
Speaker 2: your Patreon supporters. We have the two lovely individuals who
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Speaker 2: We have Brian Lynch, we have Derek Longoria. And I'm
Speaker 2: not missing. Oh am I missing anybody? I'm so confused. No,
Speaker 2: we're good because I'm sitting here thinking. We had an
Speaker 2: event last night where I talked to some people and
Speaker 2: some people weren't there. But thank you to everybody who
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Speaker 2: you following along with us on this journey. So how
Speaker 2: many are coming in from Dad's talk. I raise your hands.
Speaker 3: How about that?
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys enjoyed it? Cool? So something that I
Speaker 2: really thought could be a cool use of our time.
Speaker 2: As if towards the latter part of this, like you know,
Speaker 2: we'll talk for a little bit, have some fun, and
Speaker 2: you know, just kind of riff a little bit and
Speaker 2: then maybe open it up for some questions. If you
Speaker 2: guys would be into that. I don't know if that
Speaker 2: I think that'd be fun. I don't know about you guys,
Speaker 2: But otherwise let's just I don't know, what do you
Speaker 2: want to talk about?
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot we could talk about.
Speaker 1: Right now seems to be a very significant time to
Speaker 1: be here at this type of event.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at all the nodding in the room.
Speaker 1: It's like right now seems to be a turning point
Speaker 1: for disclosure.
Speaker 3: So there's plenty we could talk about.
Speaker 2: I can't help but think, you know, back when I
Speaker 2: would say, around two thousand and eight, when NASA started
Speaker 2: knocking on our door and there was this guy, fun fact,
Speaker 2: the gentleman here, Paul Heinick. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys have met him or you know, you should definitely
Speaker 2: go to his events. He's a very cool guy. His father,
Speaker 2: Jay Allen Heinick, was the one who you know, started
Speaker 2: Project Blue Bok. His protege, Hal Pavenmeier is the one
Speaker 2: who came and knocked on our door when we were kids.
Speaker 2: So that's just a fun little you know, synchronicity. But
Speaker 2: you know, I'll never forget almost twenty years ago when
Speaker 2: this guy he's coming with a NASA badge. I don't
Speaker 2: have my bad Johnny, but he had one of those
Speaker 2: just like that, and it's NASA, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, we've got some questions. And something that always
Speaker 2: has stood out to me is, you know, I'm like
Speaker 2: fifteen years old. I'm just a kid at this point,
Speaker 2: and he's telling us, look, government disclosure is coming and
Speaker 2: by the year twenty twenty five, we're going to have
Speaker 2: everything out on the table. So I just can't help.
Speaker 2: But wonder, you know, the coalescing of things that's happening
Speaker 2: right now at this time. Come on in Steve's here.
Speaker 2: Give it up for Steve, everybody. Steve and his wife
Speaker 2: Darren are very good friends of mine. They are instructors
Speaker 2: at the Monroe Institute wonderful people. Anyway, So you know,
Speaker 2: something that we were told almost twenty years ago, this
Speaker 2: is you know, I want to put it in your head.
Speaker 2: This whole notion of disclosure is a very meticulously planned
Speaker 2: thing by many forces, you know, not just humans on
Speaker 2: this level, but forces up there on another level. And
Speaker 2: you know, I just want to remind everyone here that,
Speaker 2: you know, fourteen years ago, our father came out and
Speaker 2: started saying, Hey, twenty twenty six, there's going to be
Speaker 2: a new knowledge. So it's just I don't know, it
Speaker 2: does kind of make me giggle a little bit. See,
Speaker 2: and these UFO disclosure drops and you know, you have
Speaker 2: headlines saying angelic being flying through the sky. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: so let's talk about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean we've been sitting around anticipating since literally childhood
Speaker 1: what was going to happen, if it was going to
Speaker 1: play out the way that they said it would, and
Speaker 1: seeing it now it feels very unreal in a way
Speaker 1: that it's like we've been waiting and wondering and hoping
Speaker 1: and also a little scared, you know, not scared of
Speaker 1: the beings, but of what was going to happen, and
Speaker 1: seeing it now it's just very bizarre and also very
Speaker 1: peaceful I find.
Speaker 3: For me personally.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you and how you feel, but
Speaker 1: I feel like this overwhelming sense of peace and care
Speaker 1: that the phenomenon is absolutely in control of disclosure, and
Speaker 1: no matter what is coming out in the news, a
Speaker 1: lot of it we know is fear narrative. Some of
Speaker 1: it absolutely is, and we know that not only because
Speaker 1: the lady said that it was, but also because government
Speaker 1: people have told us that it was going to happen.
Speaker 3: But the Light's going to win.
Speaker 1: And I think that there is a greater plan on
Speaker 1: a divine level that is playing out before us right now,
Speaker 1: and it's an exciting time to see it happen.
Speaker 3: It's exciting, and I feel like very.
Speaker 1: Emboldened in my purpose and our purpose, like trying to
Speaker 1: uplift people with the message that it's an uplifting thing
Speaker 1: we're going through and not a scary thing. Because Ryan
Speaker 1: could tell you, like a couple of years ago, I
Speaker 1: would absolutely shut down and would have never gotten in
Speaker 1: front of a crowd and talked about this or like on.
Speaker 3: TikTok, And now I'm doing it. I'm talking about it
Speaker 3: openly all the time. Because it's just that important.
Speaker 1: It's not about us, it's not about like any individual,
Speaker 1: like Dad said in the talk, it's about every one
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 2: So can you imagine, just like, let's go through a
Speaker 2: little thought experiment. You're in high school and you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, going to school one day and it's like, oh, sorry,
Speaker 2: you're a dad on TV. He's the alien guy, right,
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh man, I'll never have a chance
Speaker 2: with her. But you know, it's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of pressure to try to function and
Speaker 2: be like a normal individual but have these you know,
Speaker 2: sort of fantastic things happening. And then you know, couple
Speaker 2: that with fourteen years. You know, imagine that being a
Speaker 2: freshman in college coming home from spring break and Dad's like, son, son,
Speaker 2: I got to tell you something. I saw a glowing
Speaker 2: lady in our backyard and I'm like, oh god, here
Speaker 2: we go. All right, tell me about it. And you know,
Speaker 2: she told me that the age of Aquarius is coming.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, you know what else did she say?
Speaker 2: And you know the rest is history, and you know,
Speaker 2: the divine, feminine and all of this stuff that just
Speaker 2: totally you know, destroyed my brain. This this fundamental religious
Speaker 2: programming that I had in my brain was completely wrecked
Speaker 2: that day. And you know, just imagine the pressure of
Speaker 2: you know, most people don't anticipate a future event very
Speaker 2: far away. I think most people are pretty like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what am I going to have for lunch today? So
Speaker 2: the weight on your shoulders of thinking towards a future
Speaker 2: for fourteen years and I used to think life wouldn't
Speaker 2: go on past that. I used to think, well, I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, maybe maybe I won't have a life.
Speaker 2: It'll happen and it's over. And now here we are
Speaker 2: it's like, oh wow, it's happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like you said, starting to actually
Speaker 1: see past this year because there's been so much charge
Speaker 1: around you know, Dad's prediction of twenty twenty six, but
Speaker 1: they they've been telling us about like this time period
Speaker 1: of disclosure, there's been so much charge around it, like
Speaker 1: seeing beyond it has been very difficult for both of
Speaker 1: us and I'm sure others in our family that it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't know how to plan for
Speaker 1: a future. I don't know what I want to do
Speaker 1: when I'm eighty, because I don't know what that's.
Speaker 3: Going to look like, if it's going to happen, like
Speaker 3: what it's going to be.
Speaker 1: And here we are, and I'm like, wait, next year,
Speaker 1: what can I can go to Japan?
Speaker 3: Like I can know all these things?
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like it was very hard to imagine a
Speaker 2: life past that. Now here we are. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: look at that. The government's releasing footage and its orbs. Duh,
Speaker 2: you know, because they're real. And you know, I hate
Speaker 2: to say it, but there's not a lot of evidence
Speaker 2: for the material paradigm that's been spun for eighty years.
Speaker 2: So you know, if we're rational, evidence based people, we
Speaker 2: kind of have to kind of put the onus on
Speaker 2: them to prove that all this scary Martian invader with
Speaker 2: the rayguns and the brain suckers and the probes and
Speaker 2: all that. You know, I just haven't seen the evidence.
Speaker 2: So it's an exciting year. I think that when we
Speaker 2: think of disclosure, when I imagine disclosure being the child
Speaker 2: of a I hate this word, but you know, a
Speaker 2: famous UFO guy and thousands of people coming and knocking
Speaker 2: on the door. We stopped that a long time ago,
Speaker 2: and asking questions and calling and skywatches with a thousand
Speaker 2: people here, four hundred and fifty people here. You know,
Speaker 2: we've met thousands and thousands of people. So there's this
Speaker 2: image in my mind of people that are into UFOs.
Speaker 2: And when I hear the word disclosure, I think of
Speaker 2: like the government's gonna come out with it. They're gonna,
Speaker 2: they're gonna finally, they're gonna they're gonna vomit it out right.
Speaker 2: They're gonna finally give us permission to believe that thing
Speaker 2: we've already believed because this big authority man said, hey,
Speaker 2: it's real. But that's not what disclosure really is. And
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is disclosure has been talked
Speaker 2: about for two thousand years. It's even longer. Really there's
Speaker 2: traditions around the world and the ancient past. They talked
Speaker 2: about a time like you know, the dogone in Africa
Speaker 2: five thousand years ago said there would be a time
Speaker 2: when the spirit world and the physical world cross, or
Speaker 2: you know, you can look at like the Rosicrucian tradition
Speaker 2: or the Templar tradition, or dare I say, the Holy Bible,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, the Hope prophecy, and it goes
Speaker 2: on and on and on. The Vedic philosophy that talks about,
Speaker 2: you know, the Coliyuga ending in twenty twenty five. So
Speaker 2: this is bigger than the big bad government man coming
Speaker 2: out and saying, hey, you little peasant, you can finally
Speaker 2: believe you can you can finally be validated and you
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. But you know what the
Speaker 2: bledsoons have always been about. If I could speak for
Speaker 2: you and for our family, we'll see give it a go.
Speaker 2: The whole thing has been trying to empower people to
Speaker 2: make that connection themselves. You don't need the big bad
Speaker 2: government man, you know, to tell you how to. You
Speaker 2: don't need a psionic asset to tell you to listen
Speaker 2: to a little dog whistle. God that makes me gag,
Speaker 2: listen to a dog whistle to some on a UFO.
Speaker 2: You know, they've been talking about this forever. The Kingdom
Speaker 2: of Heaven is within you. So that's that's what disclosure is.
Speaker 2: It's a very long prophesied thing where the spirit world
Speaker 2: and the physical world are becoming more one. So is
Speaker 2: it a surprise that you know you can stroll TikTok
Speaker 2: for five minutes and see dozens and dozens and dozens
Speaker 2: of war videos now not really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like the divine feminine, what is that?
Speaker 1: The lady said she was going to bring back the
Speaker 1: balance between the masculine and the feminine.
Speaker 3: And if we really look into what the feminine is about,
Speaker 3: that's about the spirit. It's about intuition, emotion. I like
Speaker 3: to see it as kind of like the unseen part
Speaker 3: of who we are.
Speaker 1: So the invisible forces that operate as us right versus
Speaker 1: the more physical reality.
Speaker 3: Based side, which would be more masculine, also important.
Speaker 1: We need both, but the feminine coming back being in balance.
Speaker 1: That means spiritual gifts, opening, being able to see through
Speaker 1: the veil, having a deeper connection with self, with intuition,
Speaker 1: with God, the univers these beings, emotional intelligence, permission to
Speaker 1: be emotional, permission to like honor your own authenticity and
Speaker 1: your gifts.
Speaker 3: And so a lot of people like, where's the lady.
Speaker 3: I didn't see her on Easter Sunday, Guys.
Speaker 1: It was never necessarily about that, you know, that's a
Speaker 1: whole other topic.
Speaker 3: But like, it's about the heart.
Speaker 1: She said, she was waking up the hearts and minds
Speaker 1: to the people and bringing back a new knowledge, and
Speaker 1: it's just like happening right now. And she's also said
Speaker 1: bringing darkness to light. What are we seeing happening on
Speaker 1: a broad scale in the world. We're seeing darkness brought
Speaker 1: to life, right, and justice being brought to light, and
Speaker 1: the darkness within the soul of.
Speaker 3: Each human being brought to light. The trauma you've faced, the.
Speaker 1: Nasty things you've done that you need to be held
Speaker 1: accountable for all the darkness inside of you and in
Speaker 1: the world macro and.
Speaker 2: Micro, just like the general you not like you right there, right,
Speaker 2: but you.
Speaker 3: Get what I'm saying. It's disclosure is in the heart.
Speaker 1: It's an event in the heart, right, it's because we
Speaker 1: could get into like awareness and what that is, right, perception.
Speaker 1: I can't prove that any of you exists. I can
Speaker 1: only prove that I'm aware. I am the great I Am.
Speaker 1: You are all that I am as I am the
Speaker 1: I Am. And so if everyone is the I Am
Speaker 1: and the awareness, that means that everybody's perception is great
Speaker 1: and is the perception of God and is the center
Speaker 1: of the universe. So we're all just as important as
Speaker 1: each other. And disclosure is certainly about your individual perceptions.
Speaker 3: If that makes sense.
Speaker 2: So something I like to think about too, you know,
Speaker 2: if you think about like the mystery schools, right, it's
Speaker 2: one of my favorite subjects. It's something I'm very fascinated by.
Speaker 2: When the lady came to our dad, she started saying
Speaker 2: all this mumbo jumbo that at first I didn't understand,
Speaker 2: and in time, this is kind of where I'm at,
Speaker 2: you know, after eighteen or fourteen years since she's come,
Speaker 2: and she said things from Egypt. She said things you
Speaker 2: know like that kind of come from like Gnostic tradition,
Speaker 2: and it led me down this rabbit hole of studying
Speaker 2: the mystery schools and the philosophy that they have held
Speaker 2: since the times of Egypt, you know, is the notion
Speaker 2: that mankind is evolving, but not in the Darwin way,
Speaker 2: which is like, you know, not true. It's just not true.
Speaker 2: You know, it's only part of the equation. And consciousness
Speaker 2: is evolving. It's always been a thing. It's always you know,
Speaker 2: the Templar Knights hold this. The Freemasons talk about all
Speaker 2: these secret societies. That's like, you know, what are they about.
Speaker 2: That's kind of the whole thing, that consciousness has been
Speaker 2: evolving and we're sort of like, I think superhuman is
Speaker 2: a bad way to put it, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I have a friend here who can help blind people
Speaker 2: see or you know, her daughter autistic non speaker, can
Speaker 2: hear your thoughts, you know, and imagine that at scale.
Speaker 2: That's kind of what we're looking at. That's kind of
Speaker 2: what's happening with disclosure. It's this notion that's always been
Speaker 2: a thing. This is not a new age mumbo jumbo thing.
Speaker 2: This is a very ancient secret thing that if you
Speaker 2: know where to look, it's there that mankind is evolving.
Speaker 2: And that's pretty much what the lady said when she came.
Speaker 2: We had none of this context. We're like trying to survive,
Speaker 2: you know, we're like going to school every day, like,
Speaker 2: oh man, I hope they don't, you know, say this
Speaker 2: about the Discovery Channel documentary or whatever, you know. And
Speaker 2: and that's what I think that disclosure really is. It's
Speaker 2: not that, it's not that picture that I have in
Speaker 2: my mind of the people at the Alien meet and
Speaker 2: greet saying, yeah, the government finally said it. That's not
Speaker 2: what it is. What it really is is there's a
Speaker 2: collision of world's happening here to where our perception is
Speaker 2: waking up to a higher understanding of what we are,
Speaker 2: what we're doing here, why we're here. My dad has
Speaker 2: friends that work with some university I can't remember, and
Speaker 2: they pretty much just did these peer reviewed studies that
Speaker 2: like a hundred scientists got in on and showed that
Speaker 2: the brain is an antent of consciousness. It's like, duh,
Speaker 2: you know, we've known this. The only reason we haven't
Speaker 2: known this is because for one hundred years they've been
Speaker 2: pumping us full of you know, bad science.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, Yeah.
Speaker 1: You don't need What kind of happens is we start
Speaker 1: and we're conditioned to form our understanding of reality, of
Speaker 1: how to behave in society at a very young age,
Speaker 1: and it literally forms a structure in your neural network
Speaker 1: of how to stay safe in reality and in society.
Speaker 1: And so your brain is hardwired to understand what you're
Speaker 1: experiencing at every moment. And that has been intentional the
Speaker 1: way that it's been structured for the last not even
Speaker 1: just one hundred years, but even before.
Speaker 3: That, it's been curated at a mass scale.
Speaker 1: And that curation is no longer possible because people are
Speaker 1: waking up and seeing more and it is breaking that
Speaker 1: the fourth wall. You could say, like the phenomenon is
Speaker 1: breaking the fourth wall, and people are seeing it.
Speaker 3: And these powers that want us.
Speaker 1: To stay curated and you know, part of the system
Speaker 1: and the structure, they don't like it.
Speaker 3: They don't like it.
Speaker 1: And so the more people are taking ownership over their experiences.
Speaker 3: And saying I saw this, I felt this, I know this,
Speaker 3: the more it's rippling. People are starting to see more
Speaker 3: and more, and so.
Speaker 1: Part of it is about letting go of the need
Speaker 1: to understand everything and to be validated and what you're
Speaker 1: understanding and what you're seeing, because we're used.
Speaker 3: To saying like, am I crazy?
Speaker 1: And I'm coming from someone whose family, like we all
Speaker 1: literally thought we were actually going crazy, And as a
Speaker 1: young girl, can you imagine getting up and going to
Speaker 1: school and wondering if you.
Speaker 3: Were actually going insane?
Speaker 1: Like is your family actually going insane because of what
Speaker 1: we're seeing, because everyone's telling us you're going insane. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very damaging, but that ownership of like this is
Speaker 1: what I'm experiencing, this is what I'm feeling, and finding
Speaker 1: safety in that is able to help us rewire the
Speaker 1: brain and make sense of all of it.
Speaker 3: And so all of that to say is like.
Speaker 1: You don't need to be validated by a system by
Speaker 1: a big person, not even me or my dad like
Speaker 1: or Ryan or any of us, like you and your perception.
Speaker 1: And to go back to what you're saying, like going
Speaker 1: and trying to function. I was dumped by a boy
Speaker 1: for being into UFHO, like my family.
Speaker 3: Being into UFO stuff. But now it's kind of cool.
Speaker 3: Now it's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: And now now it's like we take pictures at the
Speaker 2: alien meet and greet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would get so mad because I would
Speaker 1: literally you could like you can speak on this, but literally.
Speaker 3: Any day of the week, you might come.
Speaker 1: Home and there are people at the house asking questions
Speaker 1: that found our address and they showed up in there
Speaker 1: in my house eating dinner, and I have to like
Speaker 1: do a project for school and I I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about it because of school on mock so bad,
Speaker 1: and all.
Speaker 3: These people are invading our space and want to know
Speaker 3: all these answers. It's like that was a lot. I
Speaker 3: don't know where I was going with that, but yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Like now is now is a really special time because
Speaker 1: look at how many people are here in this room,
Speaker 1: in this conference, and everyone is like celebrating it, and yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think that's a great way to put it. I never
Speaker 2: really thought about it like that, like the phenomenon's breaking
Speaker 2: the fourth wall. Like you know, I don't mean to
Speaker 2: get all on my soapbox about the mysteries and you know,
Speaker 2: philosophy and all this nerdy stuff, but like you know,
Speaker 2: there's always been a form of control there, always has.
Speaker 2: It's always been the Pharaoh's goingsh bake my pyramids and
Speaker 2: you get bread' That's just life. That's truly life. And
Speaker 2: you know, twenty twenty six comes around and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh god, here it is. It's the big year. I've
Speaker 2: been waiting fourteen years. And then I wake up and
Speaker 2: you know, one of the first days of February it's
Speaker 2: like boom Epstein files. I'm like, here we go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's happening. The truth is coming out. What's that have
Speaker 2: to do with disclosure. Well, you know, disclosure is not
Speaker 2: about aliens. They want you to think that it is,
Speaker 2: but it's not about aliens. It's about our place in
Speaker 2: the universe. It's about what we're doing here, why we're here,
Speaker 2: and it's all coalescing into this beautiful singularity of our
Speaker 2: science is just going to explode when they finally stop,
Speaker 2: you know, doing this to the consciousness equation and they
Speaker 2: you know, they go full force ahead with that and
Speaker 2: they look at, okay, this is consciousness. Maybe we can
Speaker 2: heal with other things. Maybe we can heal with frequencies.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not a medical guy, but maybe
Speaker 2: maybe there's alternative science for this. Maybe there's a way
Speaker 2: that we can get zero point energy, which we have
Speaker 2: had talks with some walky people about that. Totally a reality.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's the singularity happening where a lot
Speaker 2: of things are changing rapidly, and I think you all
Speaker 2: can see that. You're all sitting here, you're nodding your heads.
Speaker 2: I know you're not just being nice, although I do
Speaker 2: appreciate it, and you know, it's insane the change that
Speaker 2: has happened between now and January, and I think between
Speaker 2: now and December it's going to be even more. And
Speaker 2: the government, the bit I got a bone to pick
Speaker 2: with them. I got a bone. I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna get into that. But you know, this, this
Speaker 2: whole alien disclosure thing has just been a farce. It's
Speaker 2: been a farce. It's it's been factions competing for silliness.
Speaker 2: You've got people, I'm not gonna name names, but you've
Speaker 2: got some people coming out and saying it's interdimensional. Read
Speaker 2: the Book of Ving, read the Bible, and we're like, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: someone's actually not sold their soul and they're telling the truth.
Speaker 2: And then you've got other people coming out and being like,
Speaker 2: actually we found craft with sixty nine breeds of aliens.
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh my god. You know, I'm still
Speaker 2: waiting on a picture. I'm still waiting on one picture
Speaker 2: of a so called biologic I've never seen it. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: we've seen I don't know. My dad has twenty five
Speaker 2: thousand or videos on hard drives that not to mention
Speaker 2: the millions of other people posting or videos, not to
Speaker 2: mention the government doing two drops now in the last month.
Speaker 2: It's orbs ors orbs orts or ORBS or Where's I
Speaker 2: haven't seen the other stuff. And I'm a rational thinker, Okay,
Speaker 2: So it's like I can't, I can't. I can't just
Speaker 2: believe that without evidence. I can't believe the sixty nine
Speaker 2: alien body thing without evidence. Where's the evidence. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to jump on that train for us when
Speaker 1: we have been seeing it with our eyes for so
Speaker 1: long and showing it to people whose lives have been changed,
Speaker 1: saying that from a place.
Speaker 3: It's not about us, okay, humbly.
Speaker 1: It is about the spiritual connection between the individual and
Speaker 1: the phenomenon, and that's what we have been fighting to
Speaker 1: share for so long, literally battling not only with suppression
Speaker 1: on the internet, but like people coming and threating that's.
Speaker 2: From the dah. Yeah, we'll put a bullet in your
Speaker 2: brain if you don't change your story about reptilians. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They try to pay my dad to talk about reptilians.
Speaker 3: And change his narrative when we needed money.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, sorry, we're seeing beings that come and they
Speaker 1: healed my dad when we pray.
Speaker 3: Like, why would we start talking about this stuff? Okay.
Speaker 1: But the other thing that disclosure is about is the
Speaker 1: very real and everyone sort.
Speaker 3: Of talks about it theoretically.
Speaker 1: But it's real, how energies are interplaying invisibly around us,
Speaker 1: and forces are around us at all times of all kinds. Right,
Speaker 1: So the intention in your mind the vibration of your
Speaker 1: intentions and your thoughts and the energies you align with
Speaker 1: create very real energetic ripples in the world around you.
Speaker 3: That is also what disclosure is about, negative or positive.
Speaker 1: If you are choosing to think on negative stuff and
Speaker 1: dwelling on that, I'm not saying expressing your trauma or
Speaker 1: your fear or expressing your feelings.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about choosing to dwell, choosing to like pick
Speaker 3: a negative thing. And a lot of people aren't aware
Speaker 3: that they're doing it.
Speaker 1: Right, We get conditioned and we're stuck in this rut
Speaker 1: of going down negative.
Speaker 3: We all do it.
Speaker 1: I do it too, and you have to kind of
Speaker 1: clear it and say, what am I outputting right now?
Speaker 3: What forces are looking at me and looking for an
Speaker 3: in Okay, positive or negative? And I don't even think
Speaker 3: of it as negative, but you could think of like.
Speaker 1: Dense, more dense, lower vibrational, higher vibrational, less dense, more
Speaker 1: expanded energies. But what are we aligning with? What is
Speaker 1: the energy circulating in your heart and around you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that let's do an exercise by
Speaker 2: a raise of hands, how many people in their room
Speaker 2: right now, either yourself or somebody you're very close with,
Speaker 2: like somebody that you talk with all the time, maybe
Speaker 2: a family member or a close friend. Raise of hands.
Speaker 2: With that in mind, do you or somebody you know
Speaker 2: are you going through a very hard time or something
Speaker 2: really heavy right now? Okay, not as many as I thought.
Speaker 2: It was about half the room, and that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's good. Everywhere of the thousands of people that I know,
Speaker 2: and the questions and the messages coming in and the
Speaker 2: people in my personal life, there's just some shift that
Speaker 2: has occurred in the world where my perception of this,
Speaker 2: I think that there's there have been a very powerful,
Speaker 2: like you could think of like pulses of energetic shift
Speaker 2: happening in the world where I think things are starting
Speaker 2: to happen a lot quicker you could think of like
Speaker 2: karma or whatever word you want to put to that.
Speaker 2: But there's a change that's happening right now, and it
Speaker 2: seems like everybody I know around only something's just fallen apart,
Speaker 2: you know, everywhere you know, And that's that's what this
Speaker 2: is about. I think. I think there's there's a few
Speaker 2: types of people in this world, and there's the type
Speaker 2: like us who know that there's something more, that there's
Speaker 2: something out there that hears us in our mind, our words,
Speaker 2: knows what we're feeling. We know that we have a
Speaker 2: support system in the universe. And then there's people who
Speaker 2: are open to that, but they're like, I don't really
Speaker 2: want to talk about it or think about it and
Speaker 2: don't bring it up. And then there's the people that
Speaker 2: are like machines and and you know, dare I say,
Speaker 2: I don't think soulis is a nice word, but they're
Speaker 2: like automatons and they just move forward in life and
Speaker 2: they're like NPCs. They're like, yeah, they're like NPCs, and
Speaker 2: some people get offended by that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, autopilot, they're like on autopilot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're on autopilot. Yeah, And they're not they're
Speaker 2: not aware of the spiritual reality at all, you know.
Speaker 2: But I think I think what's so important is we're
Speaker 2: moving away from the age of authoritative systems, Like I
Speaker 2: think we don't we don't need the priest to tell
Speaker 2: us what to think, what to believe. We don't need
Speaker 2: the government to tell us what's true. We don't need
Speaker 2: the scientists and the white lab coat to tell us
Speaker 2: what's real. You know, it's time to start thinking for ourselves.
Speaker 2: And I think that's happening at scale. I think we're
Speaker 2: all pretty tired of what's happening in the world. I
Speaker 2: think we can open our eyes and say, yeah, it
Speaker 2: is kind of a crappy place. And I have to
Speaker 2: pay a carbon tax to breathe, and I have to,
Speaker 2: you know, pay to for everything. You have to pay
Speaker 2: for everything. Okay, I'm not going to get into it,
Speaker 2: but it sucks. It's it's pretty hard to live here
Speaker 2: on Earth and be a citizen. And I'm likened to
Speaker 2: you know, ancient traditions that talked about that, where they
Speaker 2: would say something like, hey, you know, this isn't really
Speaker 2: the real world. We come here to you know, suffer
Speaker 2: a little bit and grow and learn, and the real
Speaker 2: world is somewhere out there. And the key to mastering
Speaker 2: life here is realizing that and realizing, hey, there's another world.
Speaker 2: There are other beings in this other world. That's kind
Speaker 2: of like what we've been getting at the whole time,
Speaker 2: you know, and everyone thought we were like, well, we
Speaker 2: kind of were Bible thumping people for a while, you know,
Speaker 2: run up in North Carolina, you know, but then the
Speaker 2: phenomenon came and they're like, whoa, hey, let's musitions. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we played in the church together, Like like I can't remember.
Speaker 3: The Amy Lee Baby Billy, well.
Speaker 2: It's taking the real ones. But yeah, we played in
Speaker 2: the church band together, and it's like we're a suit
Speaker 2: and you know, it's like kind of had to undo
Speaker 2: that programming and go on that journey, you know, so
Speaker 2: like I've been there. I know what that means. To
Speaker 2: be that way is what I'm trying to say. I
Speaker 2: know what it means. I know what it means to
Speaker 2: be programmed a certain way, and I know what that means.
Speaker 2: And kind of our whole philosophy is like this is
Speaker 2: for me, this is for you, this is for us,
Speaker 2: this is for everybody. It makes me thrilled to open
Speaker 2: my phone and I can scroll on the interne for
Speaker 2: five minutes and I can see a dozen ORG videos
Speaker 2: from around the world. And you know, I don't say
Speaker 2: this to you know, be arrogant or anything like that,
Speaker 2: but ten years ago we were the only ones in
Speaker 2: the world posting ORG videos literally, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: everybody and the alien crowd it was like, you guys
Speaker 2: are crazy, you guys are nut jobs. You guys are
Speaker 2: Bible thumping freaks. Tommed along, by the way, when I
Speaker 2: know I said wouldn' name names, he went on a
Speaker 2: podcast and called our dad like a Jesus freak. He
Speaker 2: didn't say his name, But you know that's that's kind
Speaker 2: of the treatment we've gotten for this, and we're like,
Speaker 2: you don't get it, dude, There's there's a reality here.
Speaker 2: Do we want to talk reality or do we want
Speaker 2: to talk about mumbo jumbo? You know the Grays are
Speaker 2: coming with a probe because I'm telling you I haven't
Speaker 2: seen evidence of that.
Speaker 1: And also because this phenomenon is consciousness based.
Speaker 3: Let's think about the perception.
Speaker 1: Right if you were all the great, I am right,
Speaker 1: you were just an awareness. This phenomenon looks at our
Speaker 1: reality like the what's the word like people who program
Speaker 1: a video game. Very simple for them to come into
Speaker 1: our space and appear in a projected way that appears
Speaker 1: to you, however you need to see it, Okay, So
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what people say they're seeing.
Speaker 3: They can appear however they want to. It could be scary,
Speaker 3: it could be beautiful.
Speaker 1: It could be an angel with wings that's glowing and gorgeous,
Speaker 1: or it could be like what my dad saw and
Speaker 1: Chris Junior the first night with the red eyes.
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's above our base level of logic and reasoning and
Speaker 1: understanding reality.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of what I'm talking about when I
Speaker 3: say learning to.
Speaker 1: Let go and not being able to label and understand
Speaker 1: everything so much. That is what opens you to let go,
Speaker 1: to expand and to be able to understand and connect
Speaker 1: with the phenomenon more.
Speaker 3: The more you let go, the more you're able to see.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, we have seen so many different
Speaker 1: types of things, and we just.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, we say we know, we don't know.
Speaker 3: Nobody knows everything. We don't know, we don't nobody does.
Speaker 1: But we have seen shadow beings, beings with red eyes
Speaker 1: like the ones Dad talks about, not birds, which are
Speaker 1: the orbs with wings, shadow figures flying in the sky.
Speaker 1: I've seen metallic craft in the daytime in New.
Speaker 2: York City, like it doesn't in the age matters, they
Speaker 2: saw airships.
Speaker 1: You know, consciousness evolves and changes the paradigm of what
Speaker 1: people are seeing.
Speaker 3: And I believe that.
Speaker 1: The orb is the most basic, purest form of the phenomenon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look at ancient texts, they talk about
Speaker 2: like this luminous cloud just comes down and a voice
Speaker 2: comes from it. You know, it's it's this is not
Speaker 2: a new thing. This is not like they just got here.
Speaker 2: You know, They've always been here. They've always they've always
Speaker 2: been here. And we get this a lot. Well, they
Speaker 2: had red eyes when they scared your brother. Well I
Speaker 2: get that, but in all fair and I was scared
Speaker 2: to tell my wife I like her, you know, because
Speaker 2: she was so beautiful. And it's like I saw a
Speaker 2: bear one time outside the window of my car and
Speaker 2: it was, oh my god, there's a bear. You know.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that doesn't mean it's evil. You know,
Speaker 2: just because your nervous system has a response to something
Speaker 2: that you don't understand or that you're intimidated by. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe it has a weird look that you like a spider.
Speaker 2: We can all look at a spider in the brain goes, WHOA.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it's evil, right, That's a very silly,
Speaker 2: illogical thing to assume that just because the eyes are red,
Speaker 2: you know, just pick a color on the rainbow and
Speaker 2: you know, I hate that one. It's really silly when
Speaker 2: you think about it, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wanted to just like briefly share the
Speaker 1: experience in Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: The other week.
Speaker 2: Oh please, that's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because in a crowd of how many people were there?
Speaker 3: Fifty people?
Speaker 1: That last night we did a SkyWatch in Wisconsin at
Speaker 1: the Contact Modality's expo and there were about fifty people.
Speaker 1: My dad and I were kind of leading and passing
Speaker 1: the microphone back and forth, and we.
Speaker 3: Were trying to get the crowd to stop talking. You know,
Speaker 3: We're very polite.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, like maybe we should focus, get our hearts together,
Speaker 1: because we're not seeing anything. When everyone starts chatting, when
Speaker 1: everyone's quiet and like focused and joyful, you can talk.
Speaker 3: But it's all about that. It's all in coherence. It's
Speaker 3: popping off. We're seeing six in.
Speaker 1: The sky at one time, ten one time, and then
Speaker 1: everyone gets off track.
Speaker 3: It stops.
Speaker 1: So Dad's like, Emily, I want you to read this prayer.
Speaker 1: I take the microphone. I'm like, okay, everyone.
Speaker 3: Very polite, like, let's bring it together. I'm gonna read
Speaker 3: this prayer.
Speaker 2: I read it.
Speaker 3: We see these big flashes. Okay, this orb comes by.
Speaker 1: It's flashing like eight or ten times every time we
Speaker 1: said can you do it again?
Speaker 3: Or like a significant moment, it was communicating with the.
Speaker 1: Crowd, and I'm like, let's read the prayer again. So
Speaker 1: I read it again. It's happening again. I read it
Speaker 1: a third time and there is this bright I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even call it an orb because it was much bigger
Speaker 1: and less of a form you could think of like
Speaker 1: a giant like flame of sorts, like white orb in
Speaker 1: the center with green aura kind of like a flame
Speaker 1: around it.
Speaker 3: And it flew down behind the trees and everyone was screaming.
Speaker 1: And it was after I said that prayer to the
Speaker 1: Holy Spirit, and we were all in coherence, and they
Speaker 1: all had just released doubt enough to understand, oh, it's
Speaker 1: communicating when I am focused and in this joy place
Speaker 1: and in this connected place, it's happening. And so we
Speaker 1: all kind of amped up and got to this place
Speaker 1: where we saw that, and.
Speaker 3: It was so amazing.
Speaker 1: And when we were in Champion, Wisconsin, which is the
Speaker 1: only place in America that is a Vatican registered location
Speaker 1: where there was a Marian apparition, I was there last year,
Speaker 1: and we saw lots of.
Speaker 3: Things in the trees, even.
Speaker 1: In the sky, some very bright orbs some flashes and streaks,
Speaker 1: but my dad and like the crowd we were with,
Speaker 1: it was a small group. They were facing me, sitting
Speaker 1: on benches, like all of you facing me.
Speaker 3: And behind all of you. Just to imagine, I saw
Speaker 3: kind of the same thing that we saw.
Speaker 1: In Wisconsin the other week, but it was covered in
Speaker 1: a blue aura, and it came out of the sky
Speaker 1: and it shot down and it was much bigger, and
Speaker 1: it looked.
Speaker 3: Like it landed in the field.
Speaker 1: And if you remember hearing Dad talk about the lady
Speaker 1: when she came, she had she was glowing, wearing this
Speaker 1: white dress and covered.
Speaker 3: In this blue aura. Blue is very healing, very you know,
Speaker 3: grounding and healing.
Speaker 1: And this orb was massive and it shot down out
Speaker 1: of the sky, got bigger, and it looked like it
Speaker 1: literally went behind the trees into the field next to us,
Speaker 1: and it was blue and glowing. It's about the lady,
Speaker 1: and what is the lady? The lady is the divine feminine?
Speaker 1: And what is the divine feminine? The spirit, the soul,
Speaker 1: right the heart?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Can I expand on that? So if you think this
Speaker 2: is just how I like to think of things, and
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, I totally get that but I
Speaker 2: have the mic, so I'm not talking about I'm going
Speaker 2: to share my thoughts.
Speaker 1: We've been wrong many times before, and we're the first
Speaker 1: ones in the sky watched to be like I was wrong.
Speaker 3: That's an airplane, don't point alyserraetic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, plus we have satellite trackers running, so like leave
Speaker 2: your dad at the door. But anyway, so I like
Speaker 2: to think of this, and this is a little bit
Speaker 2: of like Hindu philosophy but also gnostic emanation the philosophy.
Speaker 2: But if you think about Earth, it's it's kind of
Speaker 2: like when you think of the Cross, not the capital
Speaker 2: punishment one that you know he was killed on, but
Speaker 2: like the original cross, the one that's like even like
Speaker 2: you know, you think of the horizontal axis and it's
Speaker 2: the material world, and you think of the vertical axis,
Speaker 2: or you remember geometry when it's like X and Y axis.
Speaker 2: It's like that, right, but the X horizontal line is
Speaker 2: the material world and the vertical one is spiritual world,
Speaker 2: and Earth is the place if you kind of like
Speaker 2: overlay the concept of the chakra system on the body. Okay,
Speaker 2: the center one is the green one, it's the heart chakra,
Speaker 2: and then you have the three lowers and the three
Speaker 2: higher chakras, and if you know anything about that, the
Speaker 2: lower ones are the material needs and wants of the world.
Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on chakras, but generally the three
Speaker 2: lower are the physical things, safety, fear, security, you know, pleasure, creativity,
Speaker 2: all the things that it means to be human, the
Speaker 2: animal human. And then when you pass through the heart
Speaker 2: and you go into the higher realms of existence, it's
Speaker 2: the spiritual. It's the throat, which is your voice and
Speaker 2: your truth, and it's the third eye, and it's the crown,
Speaker 2: which is your connection to the cosmos. And if you
Speaker 2: think of Earth as like being in that middle point
Speaker 2: we come here, it's the heart of the universe. And
Speaker 2: that's what the cross means, that you're sort of in
Speaker 2: the crossing place between worlds, between higher and lower worlds.
Speaker 2: And there are some Hindu philosophies that would say this
Speaker 2: is like a very low heaven, but a very high hell.
Speaker 2: So if you think of you know, the alchemical renaissance eraro,
Speaker 2: when you have the symbol of the Philosopher's Stone, which
Speaker 2: by the way, if you see our podcast logo which
Speaker 2: Alex has it on his hat, you can look at
Speaker 2: it later if you guys actually like have seen our iconography.
Speaker 2: That is basically I'm telling you the secret. It's basically
Speaker 2: the Philosopher's stone. That's intentional, and it's the circle with
Speaker 2: the triangle, and it's the notion that through your mind
Speaker 2: you create reality. This is heaven or hell. It depends
Speaker 2: on you know, your thoughts. And why am I bringing
Speaker 2: this up because I want to kind of bring this
Speaker 2: part to a close and we're going to open for questions.
Speaker 2: So how do we connect to the phenomenon? I'd really
Speaker 2: like to know. You know, I'm sure some of you
Speaker 2: are thinking that, how do we go out and have
Speaker 2: a sighting? How do how do we connect to some
Speaker 2: spiritual being out there? You make it seem so easy, Yeah, right.
Speaker 2: We for five years we're like, you know, running around
Speaker 2: like chickens with their head cut off, like you know,
Speaker 2: the government's knocking it was crazy people. It's been twenty
Speaker 2: years now, we're pretty calm about it at this point.
Speaker 2: But so, how do you connect with the phenomenon? How
Speaker 2: do you have a sighting?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: And I think it boils down to the heart, and
Speaker 2: you understand the importance of the heart, and when you
Speaker 2: think of the great flood that wiped the earth and
Speaker 2: split the wisdom across the world to all these different civilizations.
Speaker 2: There was one tradition a long time ago, the prying philosophy,
Speaker 2: before there were religions, and then the flood wiped the earth,
Speaker 2: and then it popped up in Mexico, it popped up
Speaker 2: in Tibet, it popped up in Egypt, It started popping
Speaker 2: up in you know, all around, you know, India. But
Speaker 2: if you look at the Mexican Atlantean tradition, something I
Speaker 2: find very fascinating the toll Tec Shamans. They talk about
Speaker 2: the warriors of the flowering Path. They have this great philosophy,
Speaker 2: which is also why am I bringing this up, because
Speaker 2: it's the same as the Egyptian philosophy. Well, how is
Speaker 2: that possible? Because they were the same philosophy long time ago, right,
Speaker 2: And it's that the sun is a microcosm of God.
Speaker 2: That the sun you see in the sky is like
Speaker 2: if you imagine this great infinite like if you know
Speaker 2: how like a cell is just like a fractal of you,
Speaker 2: and you're a fractal of the universe, and the cells
Speaker 2: in your body are just like a smaller version of you.
Speaker 2: Know solar systems. It's the same thing. It's the same
Speaker 2: It's just orders and scales of emanation throughout the universe,
Speaker 2: all coming from the thought of one mind. Okay, So
Speaker 2: the Mexicans in the Tultek Shaman tradition and the Egyptians,
Speaker 2: they would say that the sun is a microcosm of God,
Speaker 2: the great invisible Sun that exists beyond the physical world.
Speaker 2: So the sun is like a portal to God. So
Speaker 2: when you see these ancient traditions and they had the
Speaker 2: sun as their symbol, they didn't bow down to the
Speaker 2: sun like the stupid Hollywood movies make you believe. They
Speaker 2: actually were telling you, hey, we believe in the hidden God.
Speaker 2: And what was the name that they would give in
Speaker 2: Egypt it was Amunrah, which was also the name that
Speaker 2: the lady gave my father. She said, Amunra is the
Speaker 2: hidden One. I'm like, what the belief? Does that mean? Dad?
Speaker 2: Then I went to church the next day. No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: But so the Son is a microcosm of God, the
Speaker 2: true God, which is invisible, which is completely hidden and
Speaker 2: ineffable to the human mind. But then if you understand
Speaker 2: also what they say next, do they say but the
Speaker 2: heart in your body is the microcosm of the sun.
Speaker 2: So in a way of speaking, they're telling you that
Speaker 2: your heart is God, that God is on the other
Speaker 2: side of your heart, but your heart is a portal
Speaker 2: to God. So all this religion, it's great. I love
Speaker 2: the tradition. I've got my rosary on. I grew up Christian.
Speaker 2: That's great. But really all I really care about is
Speaker 2: the notion that we live in our heart. We're kind
Speaker 2: to other people, we understand that everybody is sacred. Were
Speaker 2: we really are one. I know I sound like George Harrison,
Speaker 2: but we really are one. And when you speak to
Speaker 2: this phenomenon, you don't necessarily just speak from your thoughts,
Speaker 2: but you speak also from your heart, and you can't
Speaker 2: fool it. So your mind and your heart have to
Speaker 2: be won. And I personally believe this was what the
Speaker 2: man Jesus was really talking about. And somewhere along the
Speaker 2: way they turned him into a capitalist pay pig. But
Speaker 2: that's anyway. So that's how you connect to the phenomenon.
Speaker 2: It's your heart and understand the importance of your heart.
Speaker 2: And in Egypt, when it was time to mommify somebody,
Speaker 2: they would take this hot metal rod. They'd cram it
Speaker 2: up your nose and they would oose your brain out
Speaker 2: and throw it in the freaking trash because it wasn't
Speaker 2: It was trash. Your brain is trash, but your heart
Speaker 2: was sacred, and they preserved it in your body for eternity,
Speaker 2: and they buried you with your heart because it was God.
Speaker 2: Your heart is God. The sun is a symbol. So
Speaker 2: when you think of that cross, you know the templars
Speaker 2: wear it on their chest. Well, it's the sun, right,
Speaker 2: but it's also your heart. And we could go on
Speaker 2: and on about this. We need to wrap up and
Speaker 2: have some questions because I heard some people didn't get
Speaker 2: to ask questions.
Speaker 3: Dad's so, did you want me to explain what happened
Speaker 3: on Easter? Though?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 3: I don't want to forget this.
Speaker 1: So I was living half of the year in North
Speaker 1: Carolina in the as a neighbor to my parents. Right,
Speaker 1: my husband and I were each dinner the night before Easter,
Speaker 1: and I get a text from my dad, Hey, something
Speaker 1: really weird just happened. So I'm going to go outside
Speaker 1: and see what he's talking about.
Speaker 3: Right, So I go.
Speaker 1: Outside and he was sitting in his chair and this
Speaker 1: sound like, first, this rush of wind came from behind
Speaker 1: him hit him, and he heard this sound behind him.
Speaker 1: He said it was like clicking, like an animal of
Speaker 1: some kind, some sort of biological like clicking sound that
Speaker 1: made all of the hair on his body stand up.
Speaker 1: It was kind of freaky, but he wasn't scared of it.
Speaker 3: He just was freaked out right. It was pretty scary.
Speaker 1: And he was hit with this wind, and he had
Speaker 1: the thought in his mind something manifested and is behind me.
Speaker 3: And as soon as.
Speaker 1: He thought that, he didn't turn to look, because he
Speaker 1: saw all of these flashes in the sky in front
Speaker 1: of him.
Speaker 3: Flash really big orbs.
Speaker 1: Flashing, and he knew that there was something behind him.
Speaker 1: He didn't know what it said to him yet, but
Speaker 1: he texted me right away.
Speaker 3: I came outside. We were talking about it and he
Speaker 3: was telling me, and I had all these goosebumps and
Speaker 3: it was like, oh my gosh, what was it? You know?
Speaker 3: And we were praying as.
Speaker 1: We do and just kind of talking and being together,
Speaker 1: and I just had the thought in my head like
Speaker 1: I would love to see I would love to share
Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit's presence in the trees, like could you
Speaker 1: come closer and as soon as I thought that, Dad
Speaker 1: and I both just standing there saw this.
Speaker 3: We call it the fire.
Speaker 1: We know it's the Lady because the feeling is the same,
Speaker 1: the knowing is the same, the message is the same.
Speaker 3: I have not seen her fully figured like he has,
Speaker 3: but when we see this fire, it's an.
Speaker 1: Understanding that it is her presence. And this fire it
Speaker 1: looks like a little poof of like a flame, maybe
Speaker 1: this big like just poof, and it flew.
Speaker 3: It was in the trees. It was flying and it
Speaker 3: would go out, it would fade away, and then it
Speaker 3: would come back and it would come on and then
Speaker 3: go away, and then it just kept coming on and
Speaker 3: going off. And then we saw more stuff after that.
Speaker 1: But that was something that we both went away from
Speaker 1: feeling very emotional, crying and had like intuitive.
Speaker 3: Messages that came after that for us individually.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to share that because a lot
Speaker 1: of people have asked, like, what happened on Easter?
Speaker 3: Dad said he saw the Lady. She came in that form.
Speaker 2: And it was very special. Well, I just want to
Speaker 2: We're not wrapping yet, but I want to go ahead
Speaker 2: and say it. Thank you guys for coming in and
Speaker 2: listening I really appreciate it. We're very grateful. We pretty
Speaker 2: much have I mean, we've got plenty of time. I
Speaker 2: thought it'd be really cool if anybody wanted to come
Speaker 2: and ask questions. I'll have to repeat the questions on
Speaker 2: the microphone because we have a camera running. But I
Speaker 2: was thinking we could like maybe do a line on
Speaker 2: that side and everybody just gonna come around. Does anybody
Speaker 2: want to do that? Does anybody have any questions? I'd
Speaker 2: really like to meet some people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would love to see you that you can.
Speaker 2: Everybody see me? Yeah, oh yeah, Dana perfect.
Speaker 8: Hey, everybody, this is Alex of Bledsoe said. So, if
Speaker 8: you've been following the show for a little while, you'd
Speaker 8: know that I just had a child and this has
Speaker 8: been one of the most life changing experiences that I've
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well you see this lovely lady. She's a friend
Speaker 2: of mine, Dana. If you have questions like please, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm begging, I'm begging. I'm kidding. If you have questions,
Speaker 2: come over on this side, come this way and we'll
Speaker 2: go around and you know, then we'll wrap. Oh we
Speaker 2: can have a night.
Speaker 3: Oh sure that would be perfect.
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, I like this guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an exciting opportunity to be able to like
Speaker 3: an interact and do this on the podcast. So that's exciting.
Speaker 2: Try Dana has been on our show.
Speaker 3: Of course I saw plasma. Sorry no, because what you
Speaker 3: said just gave me like a revelation. So when you
Speaker 3: talk about how sun is like ei you got and
Speaker 3: these visible.
Speaker 2: Sun and maybe plasma.
Speaker 7: So can you speak to any mentions of plasma and
Speaker 7: maybe your family or correlations with that if you.
Speaker 2: Want, Yes, you know everything? When so much? Yeah? Likewise,
Speaker 2: when when do we meet? It was like this time
Speaker 2: last year right or right around? Then? Are you sure?
Speaker 2: I think it was earlier? Think it was or maybe
Speaker 2: or maybe yes? I think I think so. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: when I first met you, you're like plasma, plasma. I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is cool, this is interesting, and you know a
Speaker 2: year is coming gone, and now I'm like pretty well
Speaker 2: convinced that you're very much onto something and you're ahead
Speaker 2: of the game and I and I think that I
Speaker 2: think that I think you're very much correct that that
Speaker 2: plasma is if you think of okay, so you think
Speaker 2: of it's it's I'm trying to organize my thoughts on this.
Speaker 2: It's the Angel Feather. If you've ever heard of the
Speaker 2: notion of the Angel Feather, where it's like, let's say
Speaker 2: you're in the mall and an angel pops into the
Speaker 2: earth and it leaves behind a feather. I know they
Speaker 2: don't literally have wings, but let's just say they do.
Speaker 2: And the feather goes floats down and it goes on
Speaker 2: the ground, and the government grabs it and says, let's
Speaker 2: analyze this. And they're going to analyze that feather, and
Speaker 2: it's going to have energy signatures, probably from you know,
Speaker 2: something like fifty million light years away. So that's what
Speaker 2: happens in these classified government programs. We know this because
Speaker 2: we've met them since we were children, you know. And
Speaker 2: they'll get a rock and it like materialized out of
Speaker 2: nowhere from an orb or something, and then they analyze
Speaker 2: it and they literally say, oh, it's from fifty million
Speaker 2: light years away. The energy signatures are so beyond that
Speaker 2: we can't even comprehend it. So we have to understand
Speaker 2: that when an eternal being, when an immaterial being translates
Speaker 2: into the physical world, it's going to play by the rules,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So when it translates into
Speaker 2: our world, it's going to have registerable energy signatures. Am
Speaker 2: I picking up? There's an echo, isn't there?
Speaker 3: There's a little echo?
Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry, So there are measurable energy signatures when they
Speaker 2: translate into our world. And I think that you're correct
Speaker 2: in the sense that if a being were to translate
Speaker 2: into our world as a visible phenomenon that we can
Speaker 2: see with our human bodies, yes, it looks like an
Speaker 2: orb of light. But if we were to take a
Speaker 2: machine and say, what is this orb of light made up?
Speaker 2: I think it's plasma. I think that plasma is probably
Speaker 2: the material that makes the most sense for this thing
Speaker 2: to have an amorphous form that kind of defies our understanding.
Speaker 1: That has talked about and other people have come around
Speaker 1: and there's been discussion I've been hearing for a few
Speaker 1: years about the question of plasma being the state of.
Speaker 3: Matter that they sort of enter into our world and existence.
Speaker 3: I'm not an expert at all about it, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Well Dana is an expert.
Speaker 7: I know. I know.
Speaker 3: That's Why'm like, I don't know if that will eventually
Speaker 3: be proven, but yeah, thank you guys. I love everything
Speaker 3: you're doing and the heart electromagnetic field. Just to make
Speaker 3: a correlations you say, everything's in the heart.
Speaker 7: What shaped plasma and science is electromagnetic fields. So our
Speaker 7: heart and when we're in our heart, consciousness shapes this
Speaker 7: invisible plasma and it's co creative just the way it
Speaker 7: shapes plasma scigns.
Speaker 3: So it's just really cool, amazing.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, if you want to say your book, yes, oh,
Speaker 2: my book is called a.
Speaker 7: New Force Plasma consciousness and a New Human Potential.
Speaker 3: In its seven hundred pages.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Dana.
Speaker 3: Hi, guys, my name's Addie.
Speaker 5: See you.
Speaker 3: I just had a little bit of a question. Wanted
Speaker 3: to see if you guys to talk about the Monroe
Speaker 3: Institute and how it's helped.
Speaker 1: You in meditating better and maybe reaching communication a little
Speaker 1: bit easier.
Speaker 3: And then also, I'm not sure if your brother has
Speaker 3: done it now that he's a little.
Speaker 1: More open Christ Junior to being here, because I believe
Speaker 1: last year was his first year here.
Speaker 9: Has he tried the Monroe Institute as well?
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know if you guys can
Speaker 5: answer that, but at least you know your guys experience
Speaker 5: and how it's helped you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to repeat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a question. Yeah, I wish we did that
Speaker 2: the first time. So, just just for the microphone I have,
Speaker 2: I'll repeat. She's asking about how the Monroe Institute generally
Speaker 2: has helped our family and has Christian You've done it,
Speaker 2: That's a.
Speaker 3: Big question because it's helped us so much. Me personally,
Speaker 3: I don't want to interrupt if you were going to
Speaker 3: say something, No, no, you have.
Speaker 1: I have been interfacing with consciousness and beings my whole
Speaker 1: life and struggling with religious trauma and all of this
Speaker 1: paradigm and reality.
Speaker 3: The monro Institute is what helped me make.
Speaker 1: Sense of all of it and explore my own consciousness
Speaker 1: and in a way that finally tied it all together
Speaker 1: and helped me let go of the things that were
Speaker 1: holding me back.
Speaker 3: Very powerful.
Speaker 1: That's a whole discussion on like my first experience there,
Speaker 1: but for me personally, it has been the.
Speaker 3: Transition point for my my growth. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I always have to be careful when I speak about
Speaker 2: the Minrositude because I play two roles. I play someone
Speaker 2: who's very much a huge fan, but then I also
Speaker 2: play somebody who's now an outreach trainer, So I have
Speaker 2: to designate which one I am when I'm speaking in
Speaker 2: right now, I'm not speaking as a trainer. I'm speaking
Speaker 2: as a fan of the Minrositude, and I have some
Speaker 2: wonderful Monros Tuo trainers in the room. So please don't.
Speaker 2: I hope it's you know, I just I like to
Speaker 2: share my perspectives, you know. But anyway, so my personal
Speaker 2: perspective of the Minro Institute, that they did not teach
Speaker 2: me or anyone's told me, it's just my observations, is
Speaker 2: that it is a very real emergency into the physical
Speaker 2: world of great importance. When I was there, I had
Speaker 2: a really weird experience where it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I went out a body and I found myself like
Speaker 2: in a freaking like a sarcophagus in a temple in Egypt.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't being buried. I was doing a meditation practice.
Speaker 2: But the weird thing is I was conscious of the present,
Speaker 2: and what I was coming to understand in that moment
Speaker 2: was that what I was doing right there and that
Speaker 2: at the campus, the meditation was the same thing that
Speaker 2: I was doing in a previous life thousands of years
Speaker 2: ago in Egypt, and that they're one and the same.
Speaker 2: And then I saw myself, you know, in the ancient past,
Speaker 2: as I don't know how long ago, the number five
Speaker 2: thousand years ago pops into my head. I don't know,
Speaker 2: if it's real or true. But I saw myself as
Speaker 2: a Native American sitting under a tree, and I was
Speaker 2: looking up and I was watching the orbes. So I
Speaker 2: saw these two scenes, and I saw some other scenes,
Speaker 2: and it kept coming to me, this is all the
Speaker 2: same thing, that it's all. It's all one thing. They
Speaker 2: might have different names, they might have different vocabularies, they
Speaker 2: might have different personalities saying hey it's this, No, hey
Speaker 2: it's this, but it's all one thing. It's all the
Speaker 2: physical world trying to interact with the spiritual world. And
Speaker 2: in the past they called this the mystery schools. So
Speaker 2: the Minrosa to won't will they will never will they
Speaker 2: ever say hey, we're a mystery school because they're not.
Speaker 2: But me, the fan of the Minrositude, I have to say,
Speaker 2: I think it is kind of like a very real
Speaker 2: emergence into the physical world of that kind of same
Speaker 2: thing that they were doing in ancient Egypt, in ancient
Speaker 2: Greece and ancient India and ancient Tibet all over you
Speaker 2: know where they were they were basically going into near
Speaker 2: death states through meditation, and they were going out of
Speaker 2: body to communicate with the other side and that's not
Speaker 2: very far off what they do. But here's the here's
Speaker 2: the kicker. The Minrosa to I think have has most
Speaker 2: probably perfected this more than anybody in the world, because
Speaker 2: you don't have to spend your whole life, you know,
Speaker 2: with the guru saying, hey, you got to do this,
Speaker 2: you gotta do this, and whip you with a red
Speaker 2: if you don't do the right breathing practice. They play
Speaker 2: a tone in your ear that's lovely and it causes
Speaker 2: the hemispheres of your brain to connect and then it's
Speaker 2: just like poof, you're off, you know. And there's some
Speaker 2: other stuff too. I'm simplifying it, but it is a
Speaker 2: very I like to automate things and make them very
Speaker 2: simple and very efficient. It's just how my brain works.
Speaker 2: And I have to say, Manrosa is very efficient. And
Speaker 2: what they tell you they want to do what.
Speaker 3: Ryan is kind of not saying here is they're very
Speaker 3: non dogmatic.
Speaker 1: Meaning they are not going to impose any beliefs on
Speaker 1: any human because it's all about the experience of the individual,
Speaker 1: which from my kind of spiritual thing I was saying earlier,
Speaker 1: like you are all the great I am, you are
Speaker 1: all the.
Speaker 3: Awareness that's what you're there to explore.
Speaker 1: And so they give you the tools, they give you
Speaker 1: the means to do so, but they don't tell you
Speaker 1: what to experience. They don't pre low do you on
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, because whatever happens to the individual
Speaker 1: is what your own individual consciousness dictates is the most
Speaker 1: important thing to happen.
Speaker 3: That could mean going out of body.
Speaker 1: I've gone out of body multiple times, sometimes not even
Speaker 1: while listening to this stuff, because it just starts happening,
Speaker 1: because these are natural states that they help you access
Speaker 1: through sound science in a very clean and I guess healthy,
Speaker 1: safe way. So we could honestly.
Speaker 2: Go on and on about how no, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to spend a little morning he not preaches, not preaches,
Speaker 2: he teaches.
Speaker 3: With them. Yeah, and my music is enhanced with their
Speaker 3: sound science.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So it's a wonderful place. And what I
Speaker 2: love the most about them is they empower you. So
Speaker 2: a lot of people I think have misconceptions about them
Speaker 2: and rosa to and really, you go and you spend
Speaker 2: a week there, and then by the time you go home,
Speaker 2: you're pretty well versed in how to go home and
Speaker 2: continue to do these things. On your own. And I
Speaker 2: can honestly say, like I had a complex growing up
Speaker 2: with a father who I mean, by the time I
Speaker 2: was fifteen, the Army was trying to recruit him to
Speaker 2: be a remote viewing asset, and we were getting manuals
Speaker 2: from Project Stargate in the freaking male from the US Army,
Speaker 2: you know, and he's like, remote viewing, this is a
Speaker 2: thing that the government does. You know, that wasn't a
Speaker 2: big thing yet. I'm talking like two thousand and nine,
Speaker 2: when most people really knew about this. Yeah, and our
Speaker 2: dad would just remote view spontaneously. I mean, I'm talking
Speaker 2: like me and my brother get in a fight and
Speaker 2: he's out on the town and he sees it, and
Speaker 2: he comes home and he tells us exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: And that would happen a lot, you know. And I
Speaker 2: always had this complex growing up like, well, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: got these special abilities and we're just his normal kids,
Speaker 2: you know, and we don't really got anything going on.
Speaker 2: And you know, you also have to understand that the
Speaker 2: phenomenon started coming into our lives and we were little children.
Speaker 2: She was ten, I was thirteen. We didn't really understand.
Speaker 2: We didn't have any sort of stable framework of what
Speaker 2: this was. Nobody in the world was talking about this,
Speaker 2: and so long story short, by the time I was
Speaker 2: an adult, I had a pretty strong system of suppression
Speaker 2: on myself on like what I have to do with anything.
Speaker 2: And when I went to the Minrostitute, it was like
Speaker 2: I came home and Alex the guy did the podcast
Speaker 2: with He's like, dang, dude, you're really smiling, you know,
Speaker 2: And it changed me fundamentally to where I came home
Speaker 2: and there was a glow and I realized, you know,
Speaker 2: I do kind of know what I'm doing in this life,
Speaker 2: and I do feel like I have some sort of
Speaker 2: level of control over my own mind and what I
Speaker 2: can do and what I can offer to the world.
Speaker 2: And you know that it's a very powerful practice that
Speaker 2: they teach you to be able to access the state
Speaker 2: of consciousness where magical things can happen. So does that
Speaker 2: answer your question. No, Chris Junior has not tried it yet.
Speaker 3: He's too busy.
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, he just has had time.
Speaker 1: I'll just say one more, one more tidbit about it
Speaker 1: is I truly believe at what the Monroanstitute is doing
Speaker 1: to help people understand and explore consciousness is like not
Speaker 1: a I mean a parallel a sister to kind of
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do and helping people understand what
Speaker 1: consciousness is. And it's not about like aliens in the
Speaker 1: sense of what people are saying. It's it's that side
Speaker 1: of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome, thank you, thank you. Hi.
Speaker 9: Have you ever heard anyone refer to the lady as
Speaker 9: the library?
Speaker 1: No question is have we ever heard of anyone referring
Speaker 1: to the lady as the library?
Speaker 3: I was repeating it for the microphone, say it.
Speaker 9: I heard it, But basically, it is where all the
Speaker 9: knowledge is. And so I just heard some people describing
Speaker 9: the library, and I was wondering if maybe.
Speaker 3: It's the same.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that specifically for her. I've heard
Speaker 1: people talking about, you know, like the library and the
Speaker 1: sense of the yeah and interesting and like the consciousness
Speaker 1: place where you go to receive knowledge that might be
Speaker 1: like distant to us now as.
Speaker 3: Humans, but we can access it. So I think that
Speaker 3: it could be related to her, absolutely, but I've never
Speaker 3: heard that specifically.
Speaker 2: Here's where my thoughts go. So last week we put
Speaker 2: out an episode of our show, the one that You're
Speaker 2: on right now, isn't that weird? Weird, It's weird, but
Speaker 2: you know, we put out an episode and it was
Speaker 2: called the Invisible One and it was basically very that
Speaker 2: was the Invisible one last week, right, and it was
Speaker 2: about the Secret Book of John. And I'm kind of
Speaker 2: on the series right now, like going through the nog
Speaker 2: Hamandi Codex and just to summarize that for the microphone
Speaker 2: for the people, just to make it easy, I'll summarize it.
Speaker 2: It's basically like the Lost Teachings of Jesus. It was
Speaker 2: suppressed by the church. It was deemed as heretical. There
Speaker 2: were all these movements in the past that were alternative
Speaker 2: to the to the mainstream. They were like the rebel
Speaker 2: Christians that had the mystical views like reincarnation and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, right, and it was probably the real version
Speaker 2: in my opinion. And in the Secret Book of John,
Speaker 2: it tells a different story of things and it talks
Speaker 2: about how, you know, like the story of the Garden
Speaker 2: of Eden for example. It tells a story how in
Speaker 2: the Old Testament it says, thou shalt have no other
Speaker 2: gods before me, for I am a jealous god. Well
Speaker 2: ring a bell, Well, this other book says that was
Speaker 2: actually the bad guy that kind of put us in
Speaker 2: jail here, and that the good guy was the lady
Speaker 2: Sophia or they also say a bunch of other names,
Speaker 2: and she came and her spirit was breathed into mankind
Speaker 2: to prevent us being eternally trapped here so that we
Speaker 2: could awaken through enlightened insight of her spirit. Or in
Speaker 2: the it also said knowledge, which if you know what
Speaker 2: the Greek word was for that, it was nosis. So
Speaker 2: I'm like gratching my head and if I'm like, if
Speaker 2: I'm reading this correctly, it's saying that every human soul
Speaker 2: has programmed into their DNA the spirit of this immortal
Speaker 2: feminine being to awaken through knowledge. Kind of sounds like
Speaker 2: a library. I don't know that's conjecture, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And again we have to remember the translation effect that
Speaker 2: when what if the feather from an angel came down
Speaker 2: in the mall and a scientist, you know, an egghead
Speaker 2: over at Los Alamos or something, puts it under an
Speaker 2: electron microscope, They're going to say, hey, this is weird.
Speaker 2: It comes from fifty million light years away. Well, we
Speaker 2: also have to understand the translation effect when the phenomenon
Speaker 2: speaks to us telepathically because humans are very dumb, and
Speaker 2: what we do is we have to take geometric shapes
Speaker 2: to translate our thoughts into pictures so that we can communicate.
Speaker 2: So the phenomenon, the beings that are eternal, they look
Speaker 2: at us, and we have this very short life cycle,
Speaker 2: and seventy years is really not a long time to
Speaker 2: figure things out. So we all have these conflicting view
Speaker 2: use about what it really is. You know, maybe it's this,
Speaker 2: maybe it's that. So when they speak to you, they
Speaker 2: know that they know that we're kind of dumb, and
Speaker 2: they know that they need to convey a certain word
Speaker 2: or a certain icon or a certain phrase to you
Speaker 2: so that you on your terms, through your language and
Speaker 2: your understanding, you're going to get the message. So they
Speaker 2: might say it's a library. They might say it to
Speaker 2: you it's a quantum whatever it was that you just said, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you understand it in that way. But see, I
Speaker 2: understand it in a different way because I was raised
Speaker 2: as a Pentecostal Holidays Christian, playing the drums in the church.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm trying to read these two thousand
Speaker 2: year old books. Maybe I'll understand it more. Do you
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying? So it's the translation effect. You know,
Speaker 2: your mind is like a prism that this phenomenon is
Speaker 2: going to communicate in a way that you will translate
Speaker 2: properly so that you get the message. And that's why
Speaker 2: when the Lady has appeared throughout the world to the
Speaker 2: German Templar Knights in two hundred and twenty six in Salzburg, Germany,
Speaker 2: they gave the name Isis to Bernadette. In France, she
Speaker 2: gave the name the Lady to my father, she said
Speaker 2: the Lady. But she also gave some Egyptian names, and
Speaker 2: in Zaytun in Egypt. She gave another name I don't
Speaker 2: quite remember. I think it was the Virgin Mary in
Speaker 2: Lords France, and to Catherine Labret and another province of France.
Speaker 2: I can't remember where she gave the mother Mary. She
Speaker 2: gave Mary to Fatimah. She gives different names wherever she
Speaker 2: goes because she knows that her audience is going to
Speaker 2: understand that name. You see what I'm saying, But that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that's her name. You know, it's kind of
Speaker 2: silly to think that we would take a symbol of
Speaker 2: geometric forms a name and put it on a spirit
Speaker 2: that has no being, that has no physical being. It's
Speaker 2: really kind of like an outdated concept when you leave Earth,
Speaker 2: you know. And I know that sounds silly, but think
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: So my first thought was the Page Master. Do you
Speaker 3: remember that show? Yeah, with the flying books Anyone, anyone?
Speaker 3: The books are sentient and they like say anyway, Hi, Hi, okay.
Speaker 5: So I hope this doesn't sound too negative on my part,
Speaker 5: but I've never had an experience with anything.
Speaker 3: So I'm very excited for Sunday Night. But i find
Speaker 3: myself like, in this setting, it's.
Speaker 5: Open, it's so like we're all safe here to, you know,
Speaker 5: talk about everything and learn and expand.
Speaker 3: Once I go back to work or the day job
Speaker 3: or the world.
Speaker 5: I find myself bogged down with sadness and paranoia. I'm
Speaker 5: starting to become one of those and I do I
Speaker 5: need to get a europe in the desert and just not.
Speaker 3: Have the Internet. I'm afraid of.
Speaker 5: Everything that's happening. I'm afraid of the digital idea. I'm
Speaker 5: afraid of the data centers. I'm afraid of being controlled.
Speaker 5: So I guess my question is, how do you stay
Speaker 5: in a or try to stay in a mindset that
Speaker 5: is hopeful and connected to the light and connected to
Speaker 5: the good when it's so hard being in this human
Speaker 5: form to see what I feel is we're losing to
Speaker 5: and I'm afraid of that.
Speaker 3: That's not negative. That's a very real thing. Everyone is wondering.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 1: She's asking for the mike, asking about how to stay
Speaker 1: in a happy, joyful, you know, open place when you
Speaker 1: go back to the real world after having expansive and experiences.
Speaker 3: And the real world world can be negative and sad.
Speaker 3: Do you want to answer first?
Speaker 2: Yes, please, I immediately. I've been wanting to say this anyway,
Speaker 2: So thank you for as I forgot to say it
Speaker 2: in the first part when we were just talking. Something
Speaker 2: that I think we all would benefit from. And this
Speaker 2: is you know, in the old days, thousands of years ago,
Speaker 2: they would have these monks that would do something that
Speaker 2: was known as the I'll get it out eventually if
Speaker 2: you give me a moment, the liturgical hours or the
Speaker 2: divine office, and like a monk would pray nine to
Speaker 2: twelve times a day at different times of the day.
Speaker 2: Right now, we're too busy for that to be honest,
Speaker 2: But the concept is that you're connecting to God through
Speaker 2: prayer regularly. So in modern times, like if we could
Speaker 2: even just afford five minutes a day, like five minutes
Speaker 2: every day, because if you focus on developing and I
Speaker 2: don't mean you, I mean general me too. You know,
Speaker 2: if you focus on developing the will and the discipline
Speaker 2: to take a moment every day and just kind of
Speaker 2: reject what's going on out here and go inward and
Speaker 2: you meditate or pray or both combine them, and you
Speaker 2: connect to the other world. I think that tremendous benefit
Speaker 2: can be gained. And I had an out of body
Speaker 2: experience right before my son was born, or it was
Speaker 2: right after, I can't remember. It's been a blur, and
Speaker 2: it was like I went out of body and I
Speaker 2: saw this wavelength. It was just this wavelength that was
Speaker 2: moving like a frequency. And a voice told me, your
Speaker 2: body is not eternal, your mind is eternal. And when
Speaker 2: you meditate in this way and give it daily practice,
Speaker 2: you're leaving your body. And you're not always gonna leave
Speaker 2: your body, you know, but you're you're you're connecting to
Speaker 2: this eternal frequency where Christ lives, which will give you,
Speaker 2: uh you know, power in the physical world. Power in
Speaker 2: the sense that you have that strength of mind to
Speaker 2: be more happy, be more stable, be more connected, be
Speaker 2: more recharged. So it's like this is this is all
Speaker 2: an illusion, this is all not really the real thing,
Speaker 2: and that's hard to conceive of. But I think when
Speaker 2: you dedicate yourself to connecting to that eternal place. I
Speaker 2: like christ but I bet Christian is there too, or whoever,
Speaker 2: you know, as long as they're really nice. That's that's
Speaker 2: the point I'm trying to make that if you dedicate
Speaker 2: time in your life to say, you know what, instead
Speaker 2: of like feeling negative and beat down by the world,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go pray, or I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go meditate, I'm gonna take some some self care time.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to expand there.
Speaker 1: There are different ways to achieve the same topic. Okay,
Speaker 1: So coming from someone whose expertise is from a singing
Speaker 1: voice specialist background, but also in a neuroscience perspective of
Speaker 1: the voice and how the brain, you know, the nervous system,
Speaker 1: Like I have coached people with nervous system help the body,
Speaker 1: even though it is a physical thing that technically dies
Speaker 1: like it is also a spiritual being that is here
Speaker 1: to guide us, and like it's our temple.
Speaker 3: That's what Jesus was talking about.
Speaker 1: It's our temple, the house of God, which is you
Speaker 1: know your spirit, and so your body is also encoded
Speaker 1: with intuition.
Speaker 3: With divine guidance and wisdom, and so through not only prayer.
Speaker 1: And meditation, but also honoring the body, the physical but
Speaker 1: also spiritual vessel that you are inhabiting that is sacred
Speaker 1: because your body is vibration and energy just at a
Speaker 1: different density, at different level.
Speaker 3: So it is still also important even if it's temporary.
Speaker 3: But in this iteration of who you are this life.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you believe in, but I believe
Speaker 1: we exist in other lifetimes. This body has some guidance
Speaker 1: and wisdom that can be tapped into. So I think about,
Speaker 1: like if we could see into the spirit realm and
Speaker 1: see someone's aura or someone's glow or the energy they
Speaker 1: put off. What practices make your nervous system so happy
Speaker 1: that it glows brightly, that you feel safe, that you
Speaker 1: feel care for, that your body feels safe, that your
Speaker 1: mind can feel safe enough to stop and actually be
Speaker 1: clear enough to pray if we could be doing both.
Speaker 1: This is kind of the balance the divine, feminine and masculine,
Speaker 1: like the physical and the emotional spiritual.
Speaker 3: How can I embody.
Speaker 1: Mind, body and spirit that joy place, that expanded place
Speaker 1: every day with intention just enough to where I'm glad
Speaker 1: and I can go into a sad world and be
Speaker 1: that beacon and for myself and for others.
Speaker 3: But it's a dedication practice. It takes intention.
Speaker 1: Even if it's one minute, you get faster at it,
Speaker 1: it might take you an hour to get to that
Speaker 1: place where you feel armored up in that energy.
Speaker 3: It might get to a point where you can do
Speaker 3: it instant and.
Speaker 1: Your mind just goes boop and I'm armored and I'm
Speaker 1: glowing and I feel good and it comes with time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The last thing I would say is, and this
Speaker 2: is like not very much simple topic, but you know,
Speaker 2: just like faith, you have to you have to cultivate
Speaker 2: some level of understanding that although it sucks right now,
Speaker 2: and it almost always does, because Earth sucks. If I'm
Speaker 2: just being real, like, it's pretty hardier. I got to say,
Speaker 2: you kind of beautiful and wonderful. Yeah, it is. It's
Speaker 2: a state of mind that it is truly a state
Speaker 2: of mind. And that's my whole point, that you have
Speaker 2: to kind of cultivate and understanding that it's all going
Speaker 2: to work out and there's a plan for everything, and that.
Speaker 3: Creates your reality. Yeah, it's all gonna work out. It's
Speaker 3: gonna work out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because my algorithm is just all sad stuff because
Speaker 1: that's what I change the algorithm.
Speaker 2: You're being programmed.
Speaker 1: So if we could see, if we could see the
Speaker 1: energetic exchange with those like imagine, I tell clients that
Speaker 1: like imagine putting on magical glasses that allow you to
Speaker 1: see energy exchange, looking at my TikTok, what exchange is
Speaker 1: coming through the phone at me right now or the
Speaker 1: movie I'm watching.
Speaker 3: So yeah, thank you guys, very much.
Speaker 2: Thank you. We actually have we still have some time.
Speaker 3: We'll answer the rest of these.
Speaker 2: We just might say, yeah, fifteen minutes, we have to
Speaker 2: be out of the room. So I apologize if these
Speaker 2: aren't as long. I just wanted to give.
Speaker 6: I came.
Speaker 4: I'm sure maybe I probably listen interpreted it off, but
Speaker 4: I was terrified. Like dude, he was talking about his
Speaker 4: podcast lines or like this big and the first thing
Speaker 4: he did was giving at that's kind of man he is,
Speaker 4: and it.
Speaker 3: Just dropped everything.
Speaker 2: That was great. So I'll ask my questions now.
Speaker 4: So I remember years ago I saw a podcast you
Speaker 4: mentioned that you and Chris.
Speaker 3: Junior and had some black shadows.
Speaker 2: The red eye thaing.
Speaker 4: You went to your dad and again said I'll call
Speaker 4: out he was his name or rebuked it and it worked.
Speaker 2: There's that.
Speaker 4: So I wanted to ask what your thoughts on that work,
Speaker 4: like why.
Speaker 2: It worked or whatever. And then the Chris Junior, I
Speaker 2: know he took he took off.
Speaker 4: Early, but was it because he was being terrified by
Speaker 4: the phenomenon misunderstanding it or was it because of social
Speaker 4: pressure of all the pressure hearing getting.
Speaker 2: People calling you guys crazy? I'm not sure what made zoom. Yeah.
Speaker 2: First of all, thank you, Steve.
Speaker 3: Was very cool.
Speaker 2: That was very sweet of you. The question was essentially
Speaker 2: just for the listeners at home, because this isn't live,
Speaker 2: it's going to be recorded. The question was you might
Speaker 2: have to help me summarize, like why was Chris Junior
Speaker 2: feeling like he wanted to take off?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And like the calling out Jesus name when you saw
Speaker 1: scary things, like what was that about?
Speaker 2: Okay, you have to understand that was almost twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: Chris Junior was seventeen when that happened, and like our
Speaker 2: introduction to the phenomenon was you know, through them, but
Speaker 2: it was also seeing orbs way up in the sky.
Speaker 2: His was like being a few feet away from these
Speaker 2: glowing beams with red eyes as a child. He was seventeen.
Speaker 3: It was very traumatic and scary for him. And we
Speaker 3: were still very very all of us going to church.
Speaker 1: And that's something that we had always been told in
Speaker 1: church too, because the Pentecostal Church is very charismatic and spiritual.
Speaker 1: And I'm speaking with respect here about where we come
Speaker 1: from and my family, but they live in a spiritual
Speaker 1: world that other denominations don't. They are constantly aware of
Speaker 1: like demonic forces, the Spirit of God and the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1: And like the church services might last four hours because
Speaker 1: you don't leave if the Holy Spirit shows up, we
Speaker 1: are going to be shouting and screaming and crying at
Speaker 1: the altar until it's done.
Speaker 3: So walking in life day to day is very different
Speaker 3: from that background.
Speaker 1: And the first thing you're taught is if you feel
Speaker 1: a negative presence, right call on Jesus' name and demons
Speaker 1: will flee, and not that we thought that these beings
Speaker 1: were demons, but the power of that name can cause
Speaker 1: anything making you uncomfortable to leave. And christ Junior was
Speaker 1: certainly traumatized, and that was comforting to him.
Speaker 2: I also think they just respected his wishes and they
Speaker 2: showed up and he was a terrified child, and he
Speaker 2: called out for them to leave. They and they didn't
Speaker 2: want to scare him that bad.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: I think that's the reality of.
Speaker 3: It, and that's the understanding.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, understanding now. And you know, it's funny. We
Speaker 2: were just talking about this before we started recording about
Speaker 2: an hour ago. But if you if you look throughout
Speaker 2: the Bible, the numerous times when an angel appears and
Speaker 2: it says, behold for I am an Angel of the Lord,
Speaker 2: be not afraid, be not afraid. Yeah oh yeah, yeah, But.
Speaker 1: The actual translation, instead of being not afraid, is more
Speaker 1: likely please stop screaming. So if you can imagine a
Speaker 1: seventeen year old boy who was a professional level hunter
Speaker 1: who grew up riding dirt bikes super fast, was not
Speaker 1: afraid of anything. He saw that it completely freaked him out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he was mocked, you know, and the
Speaker 2: social side of it. Was horrified for a long time.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so thank you, Hi, Hello, thank you.
Speaker 6: Very much both of you for the knowledge that you've shared.
Speaker 6: I appreciate your TikTok, and I appreciate your podcast.
Speaker 2: I totally completely agree.
Speaker 6: With the phenomenon being kind of something that reacts to
Speaker 6: the vibration that you're admitting. But going forward, I would
Speaker 6: just like to get your guys's opinions on do you
Speaker 6: think there's a chance in the future at some point
Speaker 6: that we're going to be at the grocery store with
Speaker 6: pleas or with actual entities from other realities interacting with humans.
Speaker 2: You know, I think about this a lot, and I
Speaker 2: think that it is very possible. I don't know, you
Speaker 2: know that I would say where they come from, like
Speaker 2: ple eightes or Andromeda or whatever. In my mind they
Speaker 2: come from the world that is not material, you know,
Speaker 2: And I try not to get too hung up on
Speaker 2: I know exactly where it is or what it is
Speaker 2: to me, I say, the spirit world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't see them as needing to go
Speaker 3: to the grocery.
Speaker 1: Store per se, But like the concept of like other
Speaker 1: spiritual beings walking around us and like us being able
Speaker 1: to perceive them more openly.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think so.
Speaker 1: I think that it's happening now, like people are seeing
Speaker 1: it more, just like we've kind of been seeing them
Speaker 1: in our house, like I've seen orbs and beings in
Speaker 1: my house for twenty years. I think that's going to
Speaker 1: become more common and people will gradually get to a
Speaker 1: place where we're seeing them.
Speaker 3: We talk about Avatar the Last Airbender a lot.
Speaker 2: I was going to say it.
Speaker 1: They go to the spirit realm and there's all these
Speaker 1: variations of entities and spiritual beings there, and it's just
Speaker 1: like how it is, but they're not, like they don't
Speaker 1: prescribe to reality the same way we do.
Speaker 3: So I think there will be less of a.
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll be able to conceive of it
Speaker 1: until it happens, because they won't be bound to this
Speaker 1: reality like we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they're just necessarily like coming into
Speaker 2: our world and it's like, hey, we're here, They're already here.
Speaker 2: I think what's really happening, honestly, is that humankind is
Speaker 2: evolving to be able to sense them. Finally. You know,
Speaker 2: our organs are, our brain is literally mechanically changing, and
Speaker 2: this used to be classified, and now it's like pretty
Speaker 2: well out there where people in the government have been
Speaker 2: researching this for decades. They know that people who have
Speaker 2: repeated interactions with interdimensional phenomenon, it literally forces their brain
Speaker 2: to evolve. So they have things happening like enlarged kuda patamin,
Speaker 2: which also has links to autism, which is crazy because
Speaker 2: if you know about the telepathy kids, you know there's
Speaker 2: a link there with an enlarged kud batamen, autism and telepathy.
Speaker 2: So something is going on where the brains. Psychic organs
Speaker 2: are beginning to expand right to where another thing, the
Speaker 2: pineal gland and the basal ganglia neurons are becoming thicker
Speaker 2: and more strong from repeated interaction with the phenomenon. So
Speaker 2: the brain is changing. Our organs that allow us to
Speaker 2: perceive non physical matter are beginning to thrive for the
Speaker 2: first time in a very long time. And I think
Speaker 2: we're at that point now where it's starting to happen
Speaker 2: so much rapidly and more in the collective that you know,
Speaker 2: the next generation they'll probably just always see dimensional phenomenon
Speaker 2: because they're always around you and there's a verse in
Speaker 2: the Bible. I can't remember exactly which book, but it's
Speaker 2: like I think it was Jacob. I'm going to very
Speaker 2: much butcher this, but you can google it and you'll
Speaker 2: see it's pretty close. And it's like, you know, an
Speaker 2: angel opens his eyes and then he looks and there's
Speaker 2: all these chariots and the skies all around him and
Speaker 2: they're you know, they're at war constantly, and it's these
Speaker 2: spiritual forces that exist all around us. And growing up,
Speaker 2: my dad always said, son, you've got to read this
Speaker 2: is like that, that they're always there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like the Battle of Evermore song by
Speaker 1: Led Zeppelin talking about.
Speaker 3: The sky is filled with good and bad that mortals
Speaker 3: never know.
Speaker 1: Like there is constantly that spiritual realm at work around us,
Speaker 1: and we're just being able to see it more.
Speaker 3: I think we will be able to ye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, plane lately, the crazy airplane lately.
Speaker 3: She's like, well, no, I don't remember that.
Speaker 2: And we got our last question here and then we'll
Speaker 2: wrap because we've got to be out of the room. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 2: thank you for sharing with us today.
Speaker 10: A lot of what you guys have said today really.
Speaker 2: Resonated with me.
Speaker 10: My wife and I started to make a documentary a
Speaker 10: couple of years ago and exploring the topic and talking
Speaker 10: to different experiencers. So a lot of what you kind
Speaker 10: of recall today is very similar to experiences other people
Speaker 10: have spoken to me about, and.
Speaker 2: I am in my own life have had my.
Speaker 10: Own experiences with seeing things in the sky and things
Speaker 10: that I can't explain. And I guess my question to
Speaker 10: you would be what was the Was there a particular
Speaker 10: moment where you went from like, oh, Dad's crazy to
Speaker 10: now I truly understand and see what you're saying, or
Speaker 10: was there was it a gradual row or was there
Speaker 10: a particular moment or experience that you had individually or
Speaker 10: together that really kind of changed your view and it
Speaker 10: was like, oh, Dad's not wildly insane.
Speaker 3: Dad is telling me something.
Speaker 2: That I should learn.
Speaker 3: Thanks for that.
Speaker 1: The question is how long did it take us to
Speaker 1: kind of realize if dad was crazy, you're telling the
Speaker 1: truth or not. Basically, I believed him right away.
Speaker 3: I was ten.
Speaker 1: I was a daddy's girl, and I felt the truth
Speaker 1: coming from him. Ryan was the one who told me,
Speaker 1: and I trust Ryan with my whole life.
Speaker 3: He believed it. I believed him. I wasn't allowed to
Speaker 3: ask my dad.
Speaker 1: My mom was really freaked out and thought it was
Speaker 1: evil and crazy, right, and so my brother was freaked
Speaker 1: out and we weren't supposed to talk about it, but
Speaker 1: I found my way to my dad and I asked him,
Speaker 1: and I just believed him right away.
Speaker 3: And then we started seeing it very soon after.
Speaker 1: It was within a month, I think, oh, yeah, for
Speaker 1: sure seeing it. So I didn't really have that crazy
Speaker 1: time where I thought he was crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I would say, you know, I believe
Speaker 2: right away because as a child, you can look in
Speaker 2: your parents' eyes and you can just tell that they're
Speaker 2: telling the truth. But there was a moment for me,
Speaker 2: I'm looking for you, where'd you go? Oh? Okay, there
Speaker 2: was a moment for me where I realized everything he
Speaker 2: was saying about it was true too, because it's like
Speaker 2: we're seeing things, but I'm not really seeing things unless
Speaker 2: I'm with him at this point for many years, you know,
Speaker 2: and that only really changed a few years ago, really
Speaker 2: about five years ago. But so there was an incident
Speaker 2: when I was eighteen years old. It was right after
Speaker 2: the Lady came for the first time. It was that
Speaker 2: same kind of season. I think she came right it
Speaker 2: was Easter. I'm off college for the summer like shortly
Speaker 2: after that, so I'm back home, and I know it
Speaker 2: was one of those nights very soon after the lady
Speaker 2: that we were standing out there, we were looking at
Speaker 2: the sky and we were seeing or and Dad was
Speaker 2: talking to me differently than he used to talk about them,
Speaker 2: because when he saw and he met the lady and
Speaker 2: he had that sort of interaction with her, his entire
Speaker 2: perspective of everything shifted. And he was explaining to me.
Speaker 2: I was just saying, you know, I wish I was
Speaker 2: there that night when Chris Junior was there. I wish
Speaker 2: it was me and not him, because he's ungrateful and
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to talk about this and he runs
Speaker 2: away and he was so lucky to come face to
Speaker 2: face with an entity. And I've been wanting this for
Speaker 2: five years and it doesn't happen for me. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's fair, all these stupid little things that a
Speaker 2: kid would say. Seriously, I was really saying this, and
Speaker 2: Dad's like, you need to understand that you're not ready.
Speaker 2: Of course, that made me angry. You know, eighteen, just
Speaker 2: went off to college. I think I'm an adult. I
Speaker 2: think I know what I'm talking about. And he's like,
Speaker 2: you're not ready because you have to be humble. You
Speaker 2: have to understand that these beams are magical and they
Speaker 2: know your thoughts and they know if you're going to
Speaker 2: look to the left. They already knew it before you
Speaker 2: did it or before you even thought it. And they're
Speaker 2: not up there around in a frisbee with a you know,
Speaker 2: a microphone and binoculars looking at you saying, all right,
Speaker 2: he's going to turn left. Everybody looked left. He really
Speaker 2: told me this. He has this humor in this way
Speaker 2: to kind of make you realize, yeah, that is actually
Speaker 2: kind of a stupid thought. And he was just explaining
Speaker 2: to me, you know, they come from the spirit world.
Speaker 2: You have to understand that, and when you know that,
Speaker 2: then you'll have your experience when you're ready. And I
Speaker 2: didn't want to believe it. I thought it was out there.
Speaker 2: I thought that, you know, it made more sense to
Speaker 2: me to understand that somehow or another they were like
Speaker 2: in these alien craft, But they were. I just didn't understand.
Speaker 2: I really just didn't understand because I would only see
Speaker 2: orbs very far away and didn't really know what I
Speaker 2: know now, and he's explaining all this to me, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, a cow starts moving, and then
Speaker 2: another cow starts moving, and then another one, and then
Speaker 2: another one, and then there was five cows moving and
Speaker 2: their voices were coming out of thin air all around us.
Speaker 2: And my dad got in the car the next day
Speaker 2: and he drove for like five miles all around it.
Speaker 2: Every day, action knocking on doors. Did you hear any
Speaker 2: cows last night? Did you hear any cows last night?
Speaker 2: The next the next cows were five to ten miles away.
Speaker 2: Our neighbor only had goats, you know, and a couple
Speaker 2: of chickens. There was no cows in our vicinity by miles,
Speaker 2: but out of thin air, I'm saying, as if it
Speaker 2: was right in front of me, like an arm's length away,
Speaker 2: there was five cows moving all around us, so loud
Speaker 2: that we couldn't speak for a few minutes because she well, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's one interpretation for sure, and she came as a bull.
Speaker 2: So when that happened, my dad just smiled and he
Speaker 2: started laughing at me, and he said, there you go,
Speaker 2: there's your experience. And I was so mad. I was
Speaker 2: I was so mad because I was just sure that
Speaker 2: they don't have a sense of humor, you know, and
Speaker 2: that they're serious. I'm like, no, they would, that's not
Speaker 2: I know that that was real, but I don't think
Speaker 2: that was her. He was like it was her. They
Speaker 2: showed me an image in my mind of them just
Speaker 2: laughing at you, making this sounds you mocking you to
Speaker 2: bring you along, you know. And five years later I
Speaker 2: had an entity experience pretty much like in the room,
Speaker 2: and one came and touched me and left a mark
Speaker 2: on me, like if you push your hand really hard,
Speaker 2: you know, like it looks right. And I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I think it was right after all this time,
Speaker 2: and the rest is history. So yeah, a bunch of
Speaker 2: cows moved at it.
Speaker 3: This has been great. We're gonna have to wrap it up.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming. Appreciate it so much.
Speaker 2: Oh well, my sister just published this synchronicity journal. I
Speaker 2: think that this is an author's copy. So this got
Speaker 2: this little bar on it, but it just came out
Speaker 2: like two days ago. It's self published on Amazon.
Speaker 1: To record your synchronicities, because that is part of the
Speaker 1: way to awaken and understand the consciousness and the phenomenon
Speaker 1: hate to shout myself out, but I just wanted to
Speaker 1: put it out there because I'm really proud of it.
Speaker 3: But thanks guys. Should we do a group bye? Guys?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: Can yell bye guys with us? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye. Weird things happened in the back yard
Speaker 2: of left No House the yard of letow House.
Speaker 3: So weird you're no aware
Speaker 1: Wh