WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:06.559 It's night Side with Dan ray I'm busy Boston New Radio. 2 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:10.119 Thank you very much to call a certainly very serious 3 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:13.359 night in the Middle East and Israel is doing what 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.120 I think Israel has to do. We'll see how that 5 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:18.160 all pans out, and we'll stay on top of that 6 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:19.800 throughout the night. As matter of fift we will have 7 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:23.600 special reports at the bottom of every hour as this 8 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:28.000 well morning will it's it's the middle of the night, 9 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:31.239 literally middle of the night and in the Middle East, 10 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:33.759 and we will not know what sort of damage it 11 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:37.200 has been done until they do, you know, daylight assessments, 12 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:40.840 and we'll we'll follow it. We'll have we'll have network 13 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:43.240 reports for you at the bottom of every hour as well. 14 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:45.119 Thanks to call hip. I hope that you have a 15 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.759 great weekend. My name is Dan raym the host of Nightside. 16 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:49.920 Last night, the host was Morgan White. I want to 17 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:52.119 thank Morgan for sitting in for me and allowing me 18 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:56.000 to get a night off. And we have a Dan 19 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:59.039 and Rob back in the control room as we do 20 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:03.200 during our a program. We're lucky to have two producers 21 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:05.920 back there, so it'd be nice to whoever answers the phone, 22 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:09.239 either Dan or Rob we'll worry about answering the phones 23 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:11.480 at nine o'clock. We're going to talk a little bit 24 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:15.519 later on tonight about an interesting case down in Providence, 25 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:19.640 Rhode Island, where a group called ASCAP, they're the group 26 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:23.879 that make sure that music rights are defended. They're suing 27 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:27.920 a bar down in Providence, Rhode Island called Fish Company 28 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:31.560 because they're playing music at karaoke night, which of course 29 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:34.319 you would expect them to do at karaoke night. Later 30 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:36.439 on tonight, we talked with Ken Gloss, the owner of 31 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:41.040 the Brattle Bookshop in Boston. Are talking about a big 32 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:44.560 a couple of big book events, one particularly a week 33 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:48.480 from this weekend, and then at eleven tonight we will 34 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:54.319 have our last monthly Snap twenty twenty four presidential election poll. 35 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:58.200 We've started doing this on every last Friday night of 36 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:01.719 the month, beginning in March, April, May, June, July, August, September, 37 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:03.799 and now October, so you'll be able to get through 38 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:07.239 and tell us who would you vote for? But we're 39 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.240 not asking who you think is gonna win, but who 40 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:11.680 will you vote for. We'll get to all of that, 41 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:16.199 but first we have a four guests to interview and 42 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:19.080 introduce you to hearing here during the eight o'clock hour 43 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:23.439 of Nightside News Update with us is doctor Jeffrey Greenwald. 44 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:28.919 Doctor Greenwald is the interfaith Walk art organizer from Temple 45 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:33.560 Beth David, which I believe is in Westwood. Doctor Jeffrey Greenwald. 46 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:34.919 Welcome to Nightside. How are you? 47 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:36.159 I'm well? 48 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:36.919 Thanks for having me. 49 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:41.719 Sure the Temple bet David is in Westwood? I believe, 50 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:42.360 is that correct? 51 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:43.000 That's correct? 52 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.479 Yeah, the the Interfaith Walk for Hunger has been sponsored 53 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.360 by that temple. This is actually our fifteenth year. 54 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:53.080 Yeah, fifteenth year into interfaith. You call it a mini 55 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:56.759 walk for hunger to benefit Project Bread. Everybody's familiar with 56 00:02:56.840 --> 00:03:02.520 Project Bread. Is this something that this temple is doing independently? 57 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:07.000 Are there a lot of temples, churches, mosques doing the 58 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:09.599 same thing this weekend? Are you part of an overall 59 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:13.560 effort or is this a standalone walk that people can 60 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:14.879 participate in this weekend? 61 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:19.680 That's right, this is an independent walk. We are affiliated 62 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.280 with Project Bread, but it is a something that the 63 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:28.439 temple has been premiering for about twenty years. We haven't 64 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.000 been able to have a walk every year, so this 65 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:33.879 is our fifteenth but we are We're doing this as 66 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:37.159 a solo site, and we collaborate with the Islamic Center 67 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:40.800 of New England and a number of churches and other 68 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:47.520 temples around the Westwood, Needham, Dedham, Norwood, Walpole area and 69 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:51.080 Sharon area. So we have collaborators who we work with 70 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:54.159 along the way from all of those different communities. 71 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:58.520 So is it one location are there several walks going 72 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.400 on simultaneously the in these various communities. 73 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:04.439 Yeah, good question. So everything is based at the temple 74 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:09.879 in Westwood on Claboratory Street. We get started around one 75 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.919 point thirty with registration at two o'clock. We have our 76 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.960 welcoming speeches and get everybody walking by about two twenty 77 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:19.839 two thirty this Sunday, and all are welcome to join, 78 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:22.319 even if you're not a member of a specific faith organization. 79 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.240 But all the members from all those other towns join 80 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.879 us at the temple in Westwood. 81 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.680 Okay, so you must have a pretty big crowd over 82 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:35.920 the years. What do you let me tell you? What 83 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.160 do you expect? Hopefully the weather will be good. I 84 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:42.160 think it's supposed to be another beautiful October weekend. Maybe 85 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.560 a little cooler this weekend. The cooler the last few days, 86 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:49.160 but certainly good for walking. What sort of a crowd 87 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:50.560 do you hope or what sort of a crowd have 88 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:53.199 you been able to generate in the past. 89 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.160 Well, in years past, we've had somewhere between seventy five 90 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.399 one hundred and twenty five people, I would guess is 91 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.560 sort of our average range. And the other thing that 92 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.879 we enjoy is many of our walkers bring friendly dogs, 93 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:06.920 which makes it that much more fun for everybody else. 94 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:10.160 And uh, yeah, no, it's always a great event, and 95 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:14.759 we you know, especially this time. I keep I keep 96 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:17.879 saying this year is particularly important. But with everything going 97 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:21.079 on in the Middle East, as your your predecessor was 98 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:24.920 talking about, I think it is that much more important 99 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:29.240 that we show that actually, when you bring people together 100 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:32.680 from different faith traditions and different faith organizations, that we 101 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:35.160 have so much more in common than we do have differences, 102 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:39.439 especially in our in our in how we feel about 103 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:43.000 the importance of coming together as a community and supporting 104 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:43.360 each other. 105 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:50.000 Yeah, I mean there's such cohesion and cooperation here. I'm 106 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.480 not sure that we're going to find much cohesion and 107 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:56.079 cooperation in the Middle East, despite all of the efforts 108 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:58.959 of good people from every background over there. It just 109 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:02.360 seems to me that there are some people who do 110 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:05.920 not want peace in the Middle East, and I happen 111 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:10.079 to be someone who's very sensitive and concerned. I'm not Jewish, 112 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:12.720 but I happen to be very sensitive and concerned about 113 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:16.240 what has happened for the last seventy five years to 114 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:19.279 the Middle East only democracy, and that of course is 115 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.879 the state of Israel. They have been under constant pressure 116 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:25.680 and bombardment, and of course tonight Israel is taking their offensive. 117 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:27.720 And let us hope, all of us, you know, pray 118 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:31.000 for peace obviously, but also pray for the survival of 119 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:33.600 Israel under any circumstances. 120 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:35.279 So it is a. 121 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:38.600 Canine friendly walk, which is important. And the reason I 122 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.319 asked you how many people, it's not an overwhelming number 123 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:43.680 of people. You're not talking about five thousand or ten 124 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:48.199 thousand people when we talk about the marathon. So with 125 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:52.800 this essentially means if people can probably find some parking spaces, 126 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:55.240 they can get there pretty easily. And I think that's 127 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.439 an advantage of this. You get to meet a lot 128 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:00.839 of different people from the communities that you This seems 129 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.000 to me to be a win in every respect. So 130 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:07.439 where should people you know who are not from the 131 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:11.120 temple and who maybe live right in the immediate area 132 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:13.040 and are going to walk. But if someone wants to 133 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:16.360 come from any distance and they're going to have to drive, 134 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:19.480 how easy is parking availability? 135 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.000 It's very easy. We have parking right at the temple. 136 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:25.920 I wish we had the problem of having five thousand 137 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:26.680 people were parking. 138 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:31.160 I understand that, but I actually like a smaller group 139 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.360 because that way you can really get to know everybody. 140 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.360 I think it's a I think it's a wonderful idea 141 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:38.920 with what you're doing. It's a great cost project bread 142 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:42.319 and also it's an opportunity for people to really mix 143 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.759 and mingle. And sometimes, like you're trying to mix and 144 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:48.199 mingle at a Patriots game or Red Sox game, you 145 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:50.279 don't meet anybody you're sitting in your seat. This is 146 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:53.519 a great opportunity for people of different backgrounds, from different 147 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.600 communities to get together on a project that they all 148 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.560 agree upon. So I commend you, and I commend you 149 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:02.759 for keeping You're going now nearly twenty years, and obviously 150 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:04.839 I'm sure that a couple of years that you took 151 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:06.600 off were COVID related. 152 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.759 So best of that was a big part of it. 153 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:11.920 Yeah, let's hope that you get great weather and you 154 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:15.040 get a good turnout and everybody enjoys themselves and you 155 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:17.839 raise a little bit of money. Doctor Jeffrey Greenwald, the 156 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:23.839 Interfaith Walk organizer from Temple Death David in Westwood, Massachusetts. 157 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:27.519 And is there a website we can direct people too? 158 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:29.920 How can people get more information if they're not able 159 00:08:29.959 --> 00:08:31.600 to take notes from our conversation? 160 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:33.279 Sure? Yeah. 161 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.759 The easiest way is you can google us directly at 162 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:40.840 Interfaith Walk for Hunger and that will bring you to 163 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:44.360 our page on the Project Bread page. Or you can 164 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:46.120 go to Just for the Walk. 165 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:46.799 For Hunger. 166 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:51.000 Main page, which is also through Project Bread, and you 167 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.879 can look up our team which is called the Interfaith Walk. 168 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.919 And so either way is fine, and you can register 169 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:58.639 to come, and if you want to just come and 170 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:00.600 walk with us, you can register on the day of. 171 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.440 We will have people there, so you can register in 172 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.799 advance or make donations in advance to that through that 173 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:07.840 web page, or you can come and do it on 174 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:09.679 the day of. And the more of the merrier. We 175 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:12.080 would love to have anyone there who is interested in 176 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:16.200 getting to meet some members of the community. And as 177 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.600 you said, meet somebody you don't already know, maybe from 178 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:19.519 a different faith tradition. 179 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:25.480 All are welcome Sunday, October twenty seventh, this Sunday, beginning 180 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:29.039 at two o'clock again. The address is seven Clapboard Tree 181 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:32.559 Street in Westwood. Thank you so much. I appreciate your 182 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:35.360 time tonight on a Friday night best of Liney. 183 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:36.240 Thanks for having me. 184 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:37.679 You're very welcome, Doctor. 185 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:38.320 Banwell, I appreciate it. 186 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.279 Well, get back. We're going to go to another community, 187 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:44.039 that's Salem, Massachusetts, where there is a Salem themed Wiji 188 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:48.679 board created by a local board company, board game company. 189 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:51.720 I'm probably the only person who's listening to this radio 190 00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:54.360 station now who has never played a Wiji board, has 191 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.600 no idea what they are, and we're going to talk 192 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:58.679 with an individual who's going to explain it to me 193 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:00.679 and explain it to you. Coming back on Nightside of 194 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.960 this WBZ Boston. My name is Dan Ray, the host 195 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.360 of Nightside again. Thanks to Morgan White and his guests 196 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:10.720 last night for taking care of business, and we'll take 197 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:12.799 care of business from here until midnight. Stick with us. 198 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:14.360 What gets you all the way to Saturday morning. 199 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.879 Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World 200 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.120 Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 201 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.960 Well, if there's anybody who knows less about weizia boards 202 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:28.720 in the world than me, I don't know who that 203 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.159 could be, but someone who probably knows a lot about 204 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.639 it is the co founder and vice chairman of Winning 205 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:38.039 Moves Games USA, Phil Orbani's senior Phil. I hope I 206 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.000 pronounced that last name correctly. Is it Orbani's or Almos? 207 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:43.799 It's Urbans Orban's. 208 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.879 Okay, fine, okay, I like that You're an urbane guy, 209 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:49.600 and it's pronounced as I like. 210 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:51.840 Thank you for very much. It's nice to be with you, Dan. 211 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:54.600 Nice to be with you, Phil. I have no idea 212 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:57.279 what a weedsa board is. I don't think I certainly 213 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:01.080 know the phrase. And is this something that predicts life's 214 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.840 events for people? Or is it this I know is 215 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.919 a Salem themed wija board. But just explain to me 216 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:09.879 what a wija board is and then we'll get into 217 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:11.600 more specifics about this one. 218 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:12.120 Yeah. 219 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:16.200 Well, the wija board is what you want it to be. 220 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.960 I think that's probably the easiest way to describe it. 221 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.559 It started off Dan in the late eighteen hundreds as 222 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:32.799 a means to enter the spiritual world and communicate with 223 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:36.600 those who have gone beyond. But as time has gone on, 224 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:42.519 it's become far more appealing to people as a means 225 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:48.360 to ask questions about the future generally and get an answer. 226 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.519 Okay, so I get that. I think now I'm honing 227 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:56.679 in on it. Okay, so you've turned that concept into 228 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:02.039 a Salem themed wegiboard. Yeah, well networks. 229 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:06.559 Well Weegia has a long and fascinating history, mainly in Baltimore, 230 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:11.679 merylin But in nineteen sixty seven, the family that had 231 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.200 made it all that time realized that they couldn't keep 232 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:22.759 up with demand, so they accepted a fairly lucrative offer 233 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:27.440 from Salem based Parker Brothers. And that's a company that 234 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:31.240 I always regarded as being the best game company in 235 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:35.440 the world. And I was delighted in nineteen seventy nine 236 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:38.600 to get a job offer and to come up here. 237 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.480 And I've been part of the New England community with 238 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:44.200 my family ever since. And from the day that I 239 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:49.799 started at Parker Brothers, I watched Luija game being produced 240 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:55.720 in our factory. And it is a very board game 241 00:12:56.039 --> 00:13:02.480 like device. It consists of a a wooden board, generally 242 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:04.639 press wood is the type of wood that you use, 243 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.840 and on this board are printed all the letters of 244 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:12.720 the alphabet, the numbers one through nine and then zero, 245 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:17.720 as well as the words yes and no. In addition 246 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:21.360 to that, the only other component is a heart shaped 247 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:25.159 piece of plastic on four little legs. That's called a 248 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:29.759 plan chet, which basically means little plank in French. And 249 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:32.799 if you and I were sitting on opposite sides of 250 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:39.159 auija board and we ask a question, like any question, 251 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:40.720 you can think of, what it rained tomorrow? 252 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.600 And how about this? Am I going to win the wtery? 253 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:44.639 Right? 254 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:46.360 That's an even better question? 255 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:47.120 Uh? 256 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:53.639 You On Sunday, you and I would lightly touch our 257 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:57.399 fingers on this plant sheet and lo and behold it 258 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:04.639 would start to move and would successively point to letters 259 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:07.639 that might spell out a name if we ask, for example, 260 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.879 you know what's Let's say we were teenagers and we asked, 261 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:12.720 what's the name of my next girlfriend going to be? 262 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.799 And it might spell out Mary, you know, and that's 263 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:20.320 pretty exciting. It seems to be very inexplicable how this happens, 264 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.600 and many people have theories on it, but it does 265 00:14:23.679 --> 00:14:24.639 give you an answer. 266 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:29.200 Well, so you're saying that did you ask a question like, 267 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:33.519 whatever you know of some teenager who's named my next 268 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:38.720 girlfriend that that, somehow, some way this little device which 269 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:45.759 is plastic. Yeah, we'll point two letters yep, and you've 270 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:48.200 got to figure out what them that was. Let us 271 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:50.080 spell or spell. 272 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:52.440 Well, it'll it'll point them out in order. And see. 273 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:55.279 The thing is really you have to you have you 274 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.600 have a hand from each of your apartment. You have 275 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.159 a finger from each of your hands on one end 276 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.600 of the plant shed. I have it on the other. 277 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:10.159 And something about the vibrations in our fingers causes the 278 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:13.559 plant shed to move because it's on these little legs 279 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:17.320 that permit it to slide easily or glide easily across 280 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:20.159 the board. And I've seen some people who are really 281 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:24.759 into the Wija use it for a long period of 282 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:27.159 time each day to get answers. 283 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:29.759 So what about if you and I were playing this 284 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:33.840 board next May and I asked, who's going to win 285 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:39.000 the Kentucky Derby on Saturday? You're telling you go ahead, 286 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:41.639 the chances are it'll give you an answer. 287 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.519 Yes, okay, you know, just one little aside. But my 288 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:49.960 favorite Reigi's story is that while I was at Parker Brothers, 289 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:53.279 I was working for a delightful man named Bill Dorman, 290 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:56.919 who told me that in ninety in the spring of 291 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:00.799 nineteen forty four, he was seven years old and he 292 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:05.600 and his friends asked the wija board what day will 293 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:10.720 be d Day? And the answer came back June sixth. Now, 294 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:14.440 the thing that's remarkable about that is that General Eisenhower 295 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:18.600 planned the invasion for June fifth, and bad weather delayed 296 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:19.279 by a day. 297 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:21.120 Wow. 298 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:24.159 Wow, that's a little spooky. 299 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:25.919 Yeah, yes, it certainly is. 300 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:27.919 Well, I gotta tell you, I've learned a lot about 301 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:31.320 wija boys. So if tell us how can folks get 302 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:34.399 the Salem themed board, I assume they can just go 303 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:36.399 to Winning Moves Games USA. 304 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:39.360 Well, if you're in Salem, you can go to the 305 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:43.480 PbD Essex Museum and in their gift shop they have 306 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:47.559 a very nice display and story about the Salem wija 307 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:52.360 And I would just say that Salem sort of suggested 308 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:54.960 to us that we do this because the wija board 309 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:58.399 otherwise it's just generic. It's very attractive, but they thought 310 00:16:58.679 --> 00:16:59.799 that given all these. 311 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.960 You know, I hate to do this year, but Phil, 312 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.519 we have a network news feed which I have to 313 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:09.240 take again. Winning Moves Games USA and Salem, mass Phil. 314 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:11.880 I'm going to have you back. I want to learn more. Okay, thanks, 315 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:12.759 thank you so much. 316 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:19.880 Night Side with Dan Ray ONBZ, Boston's news radio. 317 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:23.680 But we changed our starting lineup just a little bit 318 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:29.440 here hitting number three tonight. He was going to hit cleanup. Thankfully. 319 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.119 It's Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe, the Boston Globe 320 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.079 Celtics reporter. Hey, Gary, thanks for coming back to night Side. 321 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:35.519 How are you? 322 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:39.079 Oh good? How are you good? 323 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:41.480 We had a guest, a little bit of a mess 324 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:44.400 up on our third guest, so thanks for being available 325 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:48.440 on such short notice. It's like having someone get up 326 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:50.599 in the bullpen and give them two warm up pitchers. 327 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:55.759 So we're talking about the Boston Globes twenty twenty four 328 00:17:56.000 --> 00:18:02.000 NBA predictions. It's a tough thing for an NBA team 329 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.559 to repeat, no matter how good they are. This is 330 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:09.039 a great team. But the five experts from the Globe 331 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:14.640 are predicting that the Celtics will repeat. Let's talk about 332 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:18.599 the obstacles that they'll have to overcome. They played a 333 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.200 lot more basketball last spring than at last winter than 334 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:24.359 any other team in the league. Isn't that the biggest 335 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:28.200 hurtle a defending championship team, no matter how good they are, 336 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:29.720 have to overcome. 337 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:33.480 Yeah, I mean what you have to do is you 338 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:41.559 have to overcome injury, complacency, lack of focus, thinking that hey, 339 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.599 you know we are you know we've been here before, 340 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:47.640 so we know what we're doing and don't worry what 341 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:52.039 we got this and you have to enter that next 342 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.839 season with that type of focus and that type of 343 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:02.000 mentality that every game is important and that the season 344 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:05.440 that you just accomplished that amazing. This season, you've got 345 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:08.079 all the rings, you're told how great you are, Well 346 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:13.680 that's over. And so I think that, quite honestly, that's 347 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:15.680 what the Celtics have to do, and I think that's 348 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:19.720 what they're trying to do, is to just move forward. Okay, 349 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:25.119 you know, the parade has happened. They were given you know, 350 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:30.039 their rings, you know opening night, they look great. They 351 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:34.720 got all these cool jackets they raised in the garden. 352 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:41.920 Well that's fantastic. Now let's play basketball, because you've got 353 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.880 twenty nine other teams who have no concern and no 354 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:50.119 care about the Celtics and being a playoff hang or 355 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:54.799 championship hangover and feeling good about the Cells are not 356 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:58.319 feeling good about themselves or meeting a couple of more 357 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.920 weeks like no one cares about that. So they have 358 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:09.480 to essentially play like they haven't won anything, and that's 359 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:13.519 the most important thing, just playing with that harsh mentality, 360 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:18.960 that hard mentality, is that focused mentality that every game 361 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:21.599 is important. And of course they're gonna have their ups 362 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:23.519 and downs. They're going to have their injuries, they're going 363 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:27.119 to have games where they probably should have played better, 364 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:30.920 could have played better, all the issues that come with 365 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:34.799 an NBA season, But they have to essentially face it 366 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:38.720 unphased and keep it moving and prepare for a. 367 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.400 Well, you know, it's funny amongst the experts, the five 368 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:48.400 Globe experts, each of you think, yeah, they can do it. 369 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.920 Three of you, including yourself, think that the biggest threat 370 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.559 is going to come from the thunder Oklahoma City thunder 371 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:04.240 one Grizzlies, in one Dallas MAVs. Nobody has denver repeating. 372 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:07.319 In the West, the consensus is that the team that 373 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:10.400 they're going to have to eventually deal with is Oklahoma City. 374 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:15.640 Yeah, in Oklahoma City obviously look great in their opener. 375 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:19.759 They're a team that's rising, they're young. Uh, they feel 376 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:23.319 like they got their kind of playoff hiccups out last 377 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:26.480 season and they lost in the conference semi finals despite 378 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:29.640 having the number one seed. They've got a great young team, 379 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:32.960 a bunch of guys who have never been there before, 380 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:36.200 but they've all grown together. So's it's a lot of 381 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:42.440 you know, reasons to like Oklahoma City. Shay Gillithalleyxxam there, 382 00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:47.400 Jalen Williams, you know, a lot of great players, Chant Holmgren. 383 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:51.880 They made the acquisition offseason for Alex Caruso that are 384 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.039 in defender. They got a big man that they needed, 385 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:57.599 Isiah Hartensteide. So this team has made a necessary moves. 386 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.920 Obviously not in a popular market eight market, you know, 387 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:04.359 in terms of like popularity in Oklahoma City. But this 388 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:06.279 is the type of team that has made a bunch 389 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:10.880 of trades and acquisitions and you know, over the years 390 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:14.799 to get a good amount of young players, especially through 391 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:17.880 the draft, and now they feel like they can contend. 392 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:20.839 So there's no reason not to like Oklahoma City. 393 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:25.000 So just just coming back to the to the task 394 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:31.079 in front of the Boston Celtics. I keep thinking about 395 00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:34.440 the extra games and the wear and tear on a 396 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:37.640 team that goes, you know, wins the championship, goes as 397 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:39.920 deep into the playoffs as you can. And in addition, 398 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:44.039 you have at least two of the Celtics, or with it, 399 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:48.039 there were three, was true Holiday on the Olympic team 400 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:52.960 as well, obviously Derek White the Olympic team three. 401 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:54.359