Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan ray I'm busy Boston New Radio.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much to call a certainly very serious
Speaker 2: night in the Middle East and Israel is doing what
Speaker 2: I think Israel has to do. We'll see how that
Speaker 2: all pans out, and we'll stay on top of that
Speaker 2: throughout the night. As matter of fift we will have
Speaker 2: special reports at the bottom of every hour as this
Speaker 2: well morning will it's it's the middle of the night,
Speaker 2: literally middle of the night and in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: and we will not know what sort of damage it
Speaker 2: has been done until they do, you know, daylight assessments,
Speaker 2: and we'll we'll follow it. We'll have we'll have network
Speaker 2: reports for you at the bottom of every hour as well.
Speaker 2: Thanks to call hip. I hope that you have a
Speaker 2: great weekend. My name is Dan raym the host of Nightside.
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Speaker 2: at nine o'clock. We're going to talk a little bit
Speaker 2: later on tonight about an interesting case down in Providence,
Speaker 2: Rhode Island, where a group called ASCAP, they're the group
Speaker 2: that make sure that music rights are defended. They're suing
Speaker 2: a bar down in Providence, Rhode Island called Fish Company
Speaker 2: because they're playing music at karaoke night, which of course
Speaker 2: you would expect them to do at karaoke night. Later
Speaker 2: on tonight, we talked with Ken Gloss, the owner of
Speaker 2: the Brattle Bookshop in Boston. Are talking about a big
Speaker 2: a couple of big book events, one particularly a week
Speaker 2: from this weekend, and then at eleven tonight we will
Speaker 2: have our last monthly Snap twenty twenty four presidential election poll.
Speaker 2: We've started doing this on every last Friday night of
Speaker 2: the month, beginning in March, April, May, June, July, August, September,
Speaker 2: and now October, so you'll be able to get through
Speaker 2: and tell us who would you vote for? But we're
Speaker 2: not asking who you think is gonna win, but who
Speaker 2: will you vote for. We'll get to all of that,
Speaker 2: but first we have a four guests to interview and
Speaker 2: introduce you to hearing here during the eight o'clock hour
Speaker 2: of Nightside News Update with us is doctor Jeffrey Greenwald.
Speaker 2: Doctor Greenwald is the interfaith Walk art organizer from Temple
Speaker 2: Beth David, which I believe is in Westwood. Doctor Jeffrey Greenwald.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Nightside. How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm well?
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Sure the Temple bet David is in Westwood? I believe,
Speaker 2: is that correct?
Speaker 3: That's correct?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the the Interfaith Walk for Hunger has been sponsored
Speaker 4: by that temple. This is actually our fifteenth year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteenth year into interfaith. You call it a mini
Speaker 2: walk for hunger to benefit Project Bread. Everybody's familiar with
Speaker 2: Project Bread. Is this something that this temple is doing independently?
Speaker 2: Are there a lot of temples, churches, mosques doing the
Speaker 2: same thing this weekend? Are you part of an overall
Speaker 2: effort or is this a standalone walk that people can
Speaker 2: participate in this weekend?
Speaker 4: That's right, this is an independent walk. We are affiliated
Speaker 4: with Project Bread, but it is a something that the
Speaker 4: temple has been premiering for about twenty years. We haven't
Speaker 4: been able to have a walk every year, so this
Speaker 4: is our fifteenth but we are We're doing this as
Speaker 4: a solo site, and we collaborate with the Islamic Center
Speaker 4: of New England and a number of churches and other
Speaker 4: temples around the Westwood, Needham, Dedham, Norwood, Walpole area and
Speaker 4: Sharon area. So we have collaborators who we work with
Speaker 4: along the way from all of those different communities.
Speaker 2: So is it one location are there several walks going
Speaker 2: on simultaneously the in these various communities.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good question. So everything is based at the temple
Speaker 4: in Westwood on Claboratory Street. We get started around one
Speaker 4: point thirty with registration at two o'clock. We have our
Speaker 4: welcoming speeches and get everybody walking by about two twenty
Speaker 4: two thirty this Sunday, and all are welcome to join,
Speaker 4: even if you're not a member of a specific faith organization.
Speaker 4: But all the members from all those other towns join
Speaker 4: us at the temple in Westwood.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you must have a pretty big crowd over
Speaker 2: the years. What do you let me tell you? What
Speaker 2: do you expect? Hopefully the weather will be good. I
Speaker 2: think it's supposed to be another beautiful October weekend. Maybe
Speaker 2: a little cooler this weekend. The cooler the last few days,
Speaker 2: but certainly good for walking. What sort of a crowd
Speaker 2: do you hope or what sort of a crowd have
Speaker 2: you been able to generate in the past.
Speaker 4: Well, in years past, we've had somewhere between seventy five
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty five people, I would guess is
Speaker 4: sort of our average range. And the other thing that
Speaker 4: we enjoy is many of our walkers bring friendly dogs,
Speaker 4: which makes it that much more fun for everybody else.
Speaker 4: And uh, yeah, no, it's always a great event, and
Speaker 4: we you know, especially this time. I keep I keep
Speaker 4: saying this year is particularly important. But with everything going
Speaker 4: on in the Middle East, as your your predecessor was
Speaker 4: talking about, I think it is that much more important
Speaker 4: that we show that actually, when you bring people together
Speaker 4: from different faith traditions and different faith organizations, that we
Speaker 4: have so much more in common than we do have differences,
Speaker 4: especially in our in our in how we feel about
Speaker 4: the importance of coming together as a community and supporting
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's such cohesion and cooperation here. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure that we're going to find much cohesion and
Speaker 2: cooperation in the Middle East, despite all of the efforts
Speaker 2: of good people from every background over there. It just
Speaker 2: seems to me that there are some people who do
Speaker 2: not want peace in the Middle East, and I happen
Speaker 2: to be someone who's very sensitive and concerned. I'm not Jewish,
Speaker 2: but I happen to be very sensitive and concerned about
Speaker 2: what has happened for the last seventy five years to
Speaker 2: the Middle East only democracy, and that of course is
Speaker 2: the state of Israel. They have been under constant pressure
Speaker 2: and bombardment, and of course tonight Israel is taking their offensive.
Speaker 2: And let us hope, all of us, you know, pray
Speaker 2: for peace obviously, but also pray for the survival of
Speaker 2: Israel under any circumstances.
Speaker 3: So it is a.
Speaker 2: Canine friendly walk, which is important. And the reason I
Speaker 2: asked you how many people, it's not an overwhelming number
Speaker 2: of people. You're not talking about five thousand or ten
Speaker 2: thousand people when we talk about the marathon. So with
Speaker 2: this essentially means if people can probably find some parking spaces,
Speaker 2: they can get there pretty easily. And I think that's
Speaker 2: an advantage of this. You get to meet a lot
Speaker 2: of different people from the communities that you This seems
Speaker 2: to me to be a win in every respect. So
Speaker 2: where should people you know who are not from the
Speaker 2: temple and who maybe live right in the immediate area
Speaker 2: and are going to walk. But if someone wants to
Speaker 2: come from any distance and they're going to have to drive,
Speaker 2: how easy is parking availability?
Speaker 4: It's very easy. We have parking right at the temple.
Speaker 4: I wish we had the problem of having five thousand
Speaker 4: people were parking.
Speaker 2: I understand that, but I actually like a smaller group
Speaker 2: because that way you can really get to know everybody.
Speaker 2: I think it's a I think it's a wonderful idea
Speaker 2: with what you're doing. It's a great cost project bread
Speaker 2: and also it's an opportunity for people to really mix
Speaker 2: and mingle. And sometimes, like you're trying to mix and
Speaker 2: mingle at a Patriots game or Red Sox game, you
Speaker 2: don't meet anybody you're sitting in your seat. This is
Speaker 2: a great opportunity for people of different backgrounds, from different
Speaker 2: communities to get together on a project that they all
Speaker 2: agree upon. So I commend you, and I commend you
Speaker 2: for keeping You're going now nearly twenty years, and obviously
Speaker 2: I'm sure that a couple of years that you took
Speaker 2: off were COVID related.
Speaker 3: So best of that was a big part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope that you get great weather and you
Speaker 2: get a good turnout and everybody enjoys themselves and you
Speaker 2: raise a little bit of money. Doctor Jeffrey Greenwald, the
Speaker 2: Interfaith Walk organizer from Temple Death David in Westwood, Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: And is there a website we can direct people too?
Speaker 2: How can people get more information if they're not able
Speaker 2: to take notes from our conversation?
Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah.
Speaker 4: The easiest way is you can google us directly at
Speaker 4: Interfaith Walk for Hunger and that will bring you to
Speaker 4: our page on the Project Bread page. Or you can
Speaker 4: go to Just for the Walk.
Speaker 3: For Hunger.
Speaker 4: Main page, which is also through Project Bread, and you
Speaker 4: can look up our team which is called the Interfaith Walk.
Speaker 4: And so either way is fine, and you can register
Speaker 4: to come, and if you want to just come and
Speaker 4: walk with us, you can register on the day of.
Speaker 4: We will have people there, so you can register in
Speaker 4: advance or make donations in advance to that through that
Speaker 4: web page, or you can come and do it on
Speaker 4: the day of. And the more of the merrier. We
Speaker 4: would love to have anyone there who is interested in
Speaker 4: getting to meet some members of the community. And as
Speaker 4: you said, meet somebody you don't already know, maybe from
Speaker 4: a different faith tradition.
Speaker 2: All are welcome Sunday, October twenty seventh, this Sunday, beginning
Speaker 2: at two o'clock again. The address is seven Clapboard Tree
Speaker 2: Street in Westwood. Thank you so much. I appreciate your
Speaker 2: time tonight on a Friday night best of Liney.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome, Doctor.
Speaker 3: Banwell, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Well, get back. We're going to go to another community,
Speaker 2: that's Salem, Massachusetts, where there is a Salem themed Wiji
Speaker 2: board created by a local board company, board game company.
Speaker 2: I'm probably the only person who's listening to this radio
Speaker 2: station now who has never played a Wiji board, has
Speaker 2: no idea what they are, and we're going to talk
Speaker 2: with an individual who's going to explain it to me
Speaker 2: and explain it to you. Coming back on Nightside of
Speaker 2: this WBZ Boston. My name is Dan Ray, the host
Speaker 2: of Nightside again. Thanks to Morgan White and his guests
Speaker 2: last night for taking care of business, and we'll take
Speaker 2: care of business from here until midnight. Stick with us.
Speaker 2: What gets you all the way to Saturday morning.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World
Speaker 1: Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, if there's anybody who knows less about weizia boards
Speaker 2: in the world than me, I don't know who that
Speaker 2: could be, but someone who probably knows a lot about
Speaker 2: it is the co founder and vice chairman of Winning
Speaker 2: Moves Games USA, Phil Orbani's senior Phil. I hope I
Speaker 2: pronounced that last name correctly. Is it Orbani's or Almos?
Speaker 5: It's Urbans Orban's.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, okay, I like that You're an urbane guy,
Speaker 2: and it's pronounced as I like.
Speaker 5: Thank you for very much. It's nice to be with you, Dan.
Speaker 2: Nice to be with you, Phil. I have no idea
Speaker 2: what a weedsa board is. I don't think I certainly
Speaker 2: know the phrase. And is this something that predicts life's
Speaker 2: events for people? Or is it this I know is
Speaker 2: a Salem themed wija board. But just explain to me
Speaker 2: what a wija board is and then we'll get into
Speaker 2: more specifics about this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, the wija board is what you want it to be.
Speaker 5: I think that's probably the easiest way to describe it.
Speaker 5: It started off Dan in the late eighteen hundreds as
Speaker 5: a means to enter the spiritual world and communicate with
Speaker 5: those who have gone beyond. But as time has gone on,
Speaker 5: it's become far more appealing to people as a means
Speaker 5: to ask questions about the future generally and get an answer.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I get that. I think now I'm honing
Speaker 2: in on it. Okay, so you've turned that concept into
Speaker 2: a Salem themed wegiboard. Yeah, well networks.
Speaker 5: Well Weegia has a long and fascinating history, mainly in Baltimore,
Speaker 5: merylin But in nineteen sixty seven, the family that had
Speaker 5: made it all that time realized that they couldn't keep
Speaker 5: up with demand, so they accepted a fairly lucrative offer
Speaker 5: from Salem based Parker Brothers. And that's a company that
Speaker 5: I always regarded as being the best game company in
Speaker 5: the world. And I was delighted in nineteen seventy nine
Speaker 5: to get a job offer and to come up here.
Speaker 5: And I've been part of the New England community with
Speaker 5: my family ever since. And from the day that I
Speaker 5: started at Parker Brothers, I watched Luija game being produced
Speaker 5: in our factory. And it is a very board game
Speaker 5: like device. It consists of a a wooden board, generally
Speaker 5: press wood is the type of wood that you use,
Speaker 5: and on this board are printed all the letters of
Speaker 5: the alphabet, the numbers one through nine and then zero,
Speaker 5: as well as the words yes and no. In addition
Speaker 5: to that, the only other component is a heart shaped
Speaker 5: piece of plastic on four little legs. That's called a
Speaker 5: plan chet, which basically means little plank in French. And
Speaker 5: if you and I were sitting on opposite sides of
Speaker 5: auija board and we ask a question, like any question,
Speaker 5: you can think of, what it rained tomorrow?
Speaker 2: And how about this? Am I going to win the wtery?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: That's an even better question?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: You On Sunday, you and I would lightly touch our
Speaker 5: fingers on this plant sheet and lo and behold it
Speaker 5: would start to move and would successively point to letters
Speaker 5: that might spell out a name if we ask, for example,
Speaker 5: you know what's Let's say we were teenagers and we asked,
Speaker 5: what's the name of my next girlfriend going to be?
Speaker 5: And it might spell out Mary, you know, and that's
Speaker 5: pretty exciting. It seems to be very inexplicable how this happens,
Speaker 5: and many people have theories on it, but it does
Speaker 5: give you an answer.
Speaker 2: Well, so you're saying that did you ask a question like,
Speaker 2: whatever you know of some teenager who's named my next
Speaker 2: girlfriend that that, somehow, some way this little device which
Speaker 2: is plastic. Yeah, we'll point two letters yep, and you've
Speaker 2: got to figure out what them that was. Let us
Speaker 2: spell or spell.
Speaker 5: Well, it'll it'll point them out in order. And see.
Speaker 5: The thing is really you have to you have you
Speaker 5: have a hand from each of your apartment. You have
Speaker 5: a finger from each of your hands on one end
Speaker 5: of the plant shed. I have it on the other.
Speaker 5: And something about the vibrations in our fingers causes the
Speaker 5: plant shed to move because it's on these little legs
Speaker 5: that permit it to slide easily or glide easily across
Speaker 5: the board. And I've seen some people who are really
Speaker 5: into the Wija use it for a long period of
Speaker 5: time each day to get answers.
Speaker 2: So what about if you and I were playing this
Speaker 2: board next May and I asked, who's going to win
Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby on Saturday? You're telling you go ahead,
Speaker 2: the chances are it'll give you an answer.
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, you know, just one little aside. But my
Speaker 5: favorite Reigi's story is that while I was at Parker Brothers,
Speaker 5: I was working for a delightful man named Bill Dorman,
Speaker 5: who told me that in ninety in the spring of
Speaker 5: nineteen forty four, he was seven years old and he
Speaker 5: and his friends asked the wija board what day will
Speaker 5: be d Day? And the answer came back June sixth. Now,
Speaker 5: the thing that's remarkable about that is that General Eisenhower
Speaker 5: planned the invasion for June fifth, and bad weather delayed
Speaker 5: by a day.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: Wow, that's a little spooky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it certainly is.
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta tell you, I've learned a lot about
Speaker 2: wija boys. So if tell us how can folks get
Speaker 2: the Salem themed board, I assume they can just go
Speaker 2: to Winning Moves Games USA.
Speaker 5: Well, if you're in Salem, you can go to the
Speaker 5: PbD Essex Museum and in their gift shop they have
Speaker 5: a very nice display and story about the Salem wija
Speaker 5: And I would just say that Salem sort of suggested
Speaker 5: to us that we do this because the wija board
Speaker 5: otherwise it's just generic. It's very attractive, but they thought
Speaker 5: that given all these.
Speaker 2: You know, I hate to do this year, but Phil,
Speaker 2: we have a network news feed which I have to
Speaker 2: take again. Winning Moves Games USA and Salem, mass Phil.
Speaker 2: I'm going to have you back. I want to learn more. Okay, thanks,
Speaker 2: thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray ONBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: But we changed our starting lineup just a little bit
Speaker 2: here hitting number three tonight. He was going to hit cleanup. Thankfully.
Speaker 2: It's Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe, the Boston Globe
Speaker 2: Celtics reporter. Hey, Gary, thanks for coming back to night Side.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 3: Oh good? How are you good?
Speaker 2: We had a guest, a little bit of a mess
Speaker 2: up on our third guest, so thanks for being available
Speaker 2: on such short notice. It's like having someone get up
Speaker 2: in the bullpen and give them two warm up pitchers.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about the Boston Globes twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: NBA predictions. It's a tough thing for an NBA team
Speaker 2: to repeat, no matter how good they are. This is
Speaker 2: a great team. But the five experts from the Globe
Speaker 2: are predicting that the Celtics will repeat. Let's talk about
Speaker 2: the obstacles that they'll have to overcome. They played a
Speaker 2: lot more basketball last spring than at last winter than
Speaker 2: any other team in the league. Isn't that the biggest
Speaker 2: hurtle a defending championship team, no matter how good they are,
Speaker 2: have to overcome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean what you have to do is you
Speaker 3: have to overcome injury, complacency, lack of focus, thinking that hey,
Speaker 3: you know we are you know we've been here before,
Speaker 3: so we know what we're doing and don't worry what
Speaker 3: we got this and you have to enter that next
Speaker 3: season with that type of focus and that type of
Speaker 3: mentality that every game is important and that the season
Speaker 3: that you just accomplished that amazing. This season, you've got
Speaker 3: all the rings, you're told how great you are, Well
Speaker 3: that's over. And so I think that, quite honestly, that's
Speaker 3: what the Celtics have to do, and I think that's
Speaker 3: what they're trying to do, is to just move forward. Okay,
Speaker 3: you know, the parade has happened. They were given you know,
Speaker 3: their rings, you know opening night, they look great. They
Speaker 3: got all these cool jackets they raised in the garden.
Speaker 3: Well that's fantastic. Now let's play basketball, because you've got
Speaker 3: twenty nine other teams who have no concern and no
Speaker 3: care about the Celtics and being a playoff hang or
Speaker 3: championship hangover and feeling good about the Cells are not
Speaker 3: feeling good about themselves or meeting a couple of more
Speaker 3: weeks like no one cares about that. So they have
Speaker 3: to essentially play like they haven't won anything, and that's
Speaker 3: the most important thing, just playing with that harsh mentality,
Speaker 3: that hard mentality, is that focused mentality that every game
Speaker 3: is important. And of course they're gonna have their ups
Speaker 3: and downs. They're going to have their injuries, they're going
Speaker 3: to have games where they probably should have played better,
Speaker 3: could have played better, all the issues that come with
Speaker 3: an NBA season, But they have to essentially face it
Speaker 3: unphased and keep it moving and prepare for a.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny amongst the experts, the five
Speaker 2: Globe experts, each of you think, yeah, they can do it.
Speaker 2: Three of you, including yourself, think that the biggest threat
Speaker 2: is going to come from the thunder Oklahoma City thunder
Speaker 2: one Grizzlies, in one Dallas MAVs. Nobody has denver repeating.
Speaker 2: In the West, the consensus is that the team that
Speaker 2: they're going to have to eventually deal with is Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in Oklahoma City obviously look great in their opener.
Speaker 3: They're a team that's rising, they're young. Uh, they feel
Speaker 3: like they got their kind of playoff hiccups out last
Speaker 3: season and they lost in the conference semi finals despite
Speaker 3: having the number one seed. They've got a great young team,
Speaker 3: a bunch of guys who have never been there before,
Speaker 3: but they've all grown together. So's it's a lot of
Speaker 3: you know, reasons to like Oklahoma City. Shay Gillithalleyxxam there,
Speaker 3: Jalen Williams, you know, a lot of great players, Chant Holmgren.
Speaker 3: They made the acquisition offseason for Alex Caruso that are
Speaker 3: in defender. They got a big man that they needed,
Speaker 3: Isiah Hartensteide. So this team has made a necessary moves.
Speaker 3: Obviously not in a popular market eight market, you know,
Speaker 3: in terms of like popularity in Oklahoma City. But this
Speaker 3: is the type of team that has made a bunch
Speaker 3: of trades and acquisitions and you know, over the years
Speaker 3: to get a good amount of young players, especially through
Speaker 3: the draft, and now they feel like they can contend.
Speaker 3: So there's no reason not to like Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2: So just just coming back to the to the task
Speaker 2: in front of the Boston Celtics. I keep thinking about
Speaker 2: the extra games and the wear and tear on a
Speaker 2: team that goes, you know, wins the championship, goes as
Speaker 2: deep into the playoffs as you can. And in addition,
Speaker 2: you have at least two of the Celtics, or with it,
Speaker 2: there were three, was true Holiday on the Olympic team
Speaker 2: as well, obviously Derek White the Olympic team three.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So now again it's just it's just more where
Speaker 2: and tier other players are hitting golf balls or are
Speaker 2: relaxing around the pool or at the beach. Uh does
Speaker 2: this are you concerned about? You know, the Celtic's off
Speaker 2: to a great start. Obviously, they they handled the Knicks,
Speaker 2: they handled the Wizards, two easy wins. They're in Detroit.
Speaker 2: I think tomorrow night. Detroit's not a great team, so
Speaker 2: that I think they'll be three and oh to start,
Speaker 2: which is gonna be great. Were concerned about are you
Speaker 2: concerned about? And obviously you're not. But I'm just should
Speaker 2: we be concerned about how they're going to look in
Speaker 2: February and March as they get into the get into
Speaker 2: the playoffs in April?
Speaker 3: Because I think the depth, Yeah, I think that's where
Speaker 3: the depth lies where even a game like uh, you know,
Speaker 3: last night against the Washington Wizards Jason Tatum did not
Speaker 3: play the fourth quarter. Jalen Brown came out with about
Speaker 3: nine or ten minutes left in the game. The same
Speaker 3: thing happened against the Knicks. Both guys played about the record.
Speaker 3: That's which you want, twenty seven twenty eight minutes. If
Speaker 3: you can play your main guys twenty seven to twenty
Speaker 3: eight minutes, thirty one minutes if you're not playing thirty
Speaker 3: seven thirty eight, and that's good. They can. They can
Speaker 3: play every game. They can withstand a full regular season
Speaker 3: and have plenty left in the tank playing and in
Speaker 3: the low thirties as opposed to thirty seven or thirty eight.
Speaker 3: If you see a lot of thirty seven, thirty eight,
Speaker 3: forty two's here and there, thirty nine, that's gonna, you know,
Speaker 3: roll up. And that's going to impact a lot of
Speaker 3: the veteran guys because that will get you tired. So
Speaker 3: I'm not as concerned about fatigue. I think they have
Speaker 3: enough depth. That's why you sign all these guys, and
Speaker 3: that's why you spend the money and get into that
Speaker 3: second apron and pay all that money in terms of
Speaker 3: salary cap, and you bring Sam Housen back and Derek
Speaker 3: White and it is because Peyton Pritcher is because you
Speaker 3: need that depth for these situations. And that's what you
Speaker 3: know they have. They have players that they trust, and
Speaker 3: that's why they're going deep into their bench as they
Speaker 3: did against Washington and played, you know, guys who might
Speaker 3: not have gotten a certain amount of minutes. But last night,
Speaker 3: you know, Joe Bazoo will put him in the game,
Speaker 3: gave him some burn and they were fine with it
Speaker 3: and they they worked out well. So I think the
Speaker 3: depth will help. But you know, if you're a Celtics fan,
Speaker 3: you definitely want to keep abreast of the minutes played
Speaker 3: fourteen and before Brown every game. And also to one
Speaker 3: thing that that helps them will help them as the
Speaker 3: season progresses is Christautsporzingis. Now, this is a you know,
Speaker 3: a player who's often been injured and has not played
Speaker 3: a full season. He was able to make it through uh,
Speaker 3: you know, uh pretty well last season until he got
Speaker 3: hurt in the playoffs, and he played sixty five games
Speaker 3: a year before. But he's gonna miss the first couple
Speaker 3: of months of the season, and as much as that
Speaker 3: they'll be hurt by that, he will come back in
Speaker 3: January or February fresh and ready to play three to
Speaker 3: four full months and they won't have to worry about
Speaker 3: fatigue for him and hopefully for them not worry about
Speaker 3: any more injury. So the fact that he's taking let's
Speaker 3: say two to three months off his legs off his
Speaker 3: body to wear and tear of the NBA season will
Speaker 3: give them a fresher Christaphe Porzingis because remember he did
Speaker 3: not play much during the playoffs, and he missed several
Speaker 3: games during the playoffs. They did not have him as
Speaker 3: they could, you know, and if they did, obviously they
Speaker 3: may have made it a little bit easier for themselves
Speaker 3: than as much as it was easy at sixteen and
Speaker 3: three record. But you give them a full healthy christaph
Speaker 3: Porzingis in the playoffs. This team couldn't be there than
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting. I still going with a box score.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a twenty point win last night, but
Speaker 2: actually the game wasn't that close because they lit by
Speaker 2: as much as looks like twenty five and all fourteen
Speaker 2: players who dressed last night got a little bit of time,
Speaker 2: and that doesn't happen very often, particularly late in the
Speaker 2: season in the NBA. Gary always great to talk with you,
Speaker 2: I certainly hope that all of you guys over at
Speaker 2: the Globe are right on this, because this is a
Speaker 2: likable team. They seem to be good citizens and obviously
Speaker 2: they've been. They're great players, and it's the Bruins looked
Speaker 2: like they were in a little bit of trouble, the
Speaker 2: Patriots are kind of having a tough time of it,
Speaker 2: and who knows what the Red Sox. I think the
Speaker 2: Celtics pretty soon are going to be the favorite team
Speaker 2: at least for the next few years here in the
Speaker 2: city of Boston. And Gary, I really appreciate you taking
Speaker 2: the time and again stepping up tonight for a little
Speaker 2: a little bit early here, that's for sure. Well, we'll
Speaker 2: check in with you during the season, if that's okay.
Speaker 2: I really I enjoy yourself in the Globe, and I
Speaker 2: enjoy chatting with you because it gives me some insight
Speaker 2: into basketball that I might not have ordinarily appreciated so much.
Speaker 2: Gary Washburn and the Boston Globe.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, sounds great, look forward to talking again.
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Garry. All right, we're going to see
Speaker 2: if we can round up our fourth guest. We'll give
Speaker 2: it our best shot, and at the meantime, we'll take
Speaker 2: a very quick break here at Nightside. My name is
Speaker 2: Dan Ray, and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray, mine from the Window World,
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ the News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, so we're having a little bit of a difficulty,
Speaker 2: a little bit of difficulty reaching our fourth guest. Sometimes
Speaker 2: that happens in this world, but it's always unfortunate when
Speaker 2: it does. So they're talking right now, and gentlemen, you
Speaker 2: can tell me in my ear what the situation is,
Speaker 2: okay right now or what? Well, yeah, I'll tell you something. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: blow her away, blow it up, blow it up. I
Speaker 2: don't want to do it. I'm I'm gonna preview what
Speaker 2: we have coming up. This is we have there's a
Speaker 2: story that some of you may have read about in
Speaker 2: the Boston Globe. It's an interesting story. It's a story
Speaker 2: about a bar down in Providence, Rhode Island. And the
Speaker 2: bar in Providence, Rhode Island, like a lot of bars,
Speaker 2: basically is a karaoke bar. And of course, I think
Speaker 2: everybody in the audience, if you've never been to a
Speaker 2: karaoke bar, you probably know what a karaoke bar is.
Speaker 2: It's where people are invited to come up and sing
Speaker 2: a few songs. Well, there's a group called the American
Speaker 2: Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers. It's called ACECAP. ACECAP.
Speaker 2: They basically enforce the copyright that writers and musicians and
Speaker 2: composers have on their work, which is perfectly understandable. Which
Speaker 2: is perfectly understandable. However, ACECAP in order to get small locations,
Speaker 2: obviously in order for iHeartMedia or for the major television
Speaker 2: networks NBCCBS, ABC, Fox, CNN to use any sort of music,
Speaker 2: they have to pay a use fee to the owners
Speaker 2: of the copyright. And the way they do this and
Speaker 2: I'm somewhat familiar with it, but we'll get more get
Speaker 2: more information on it. Under the Copyright Act of nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy six, people who have places of entertainment where they
Speaker 2: are earning money for people who come in through the doors.
Speaker 2: And the reason I'm setting this upisode I want to
Speaker 2: get right to the subject of the nine o'clock news
Speaker 2: right after the nine o'clock news. As CAP represents one
Speaker 2: million songwriters, composers, music publishers, and licenses the performances of songs.
Speaker 2: And this is in an article that I'm quoting from
Speaker 2: which is out of the Boston Globe of earlier this week.
Speaker 2: So apparently this bar in probably every other bar in
Speaker 2: America who has a karaoke night, It's unclear to me
Speaker 2: whether or not they had a playlist or whether or
Speaker 2: not they invited people to come up, and the people
Speaker 2: would say, well, I know how to sing YMCA or
Speaker 2: I know how to sing this song or that song,
Speaker 2: and people get up and generally they've had a couple
Speaker 2: of drinks to encourage them to get up in front
Speaker 2: of the crowd. And it's entertaining, to say the least.
Speaker 2: So this bar called Fish Company apparently was visited one
Speaker 2: night in May by an investigator, and that particular night,
Speaker 2: which which was which was sent there, the investigator obviously
Speaker 2: was sent there by ASCAP. I'm sure they must have
Speaker 2: had some indication that musical entertainment's going on and that
Speaker 2: included songs, and of course the investigated reported back to ASCAP.
Speaker 2: So there are about I guess nine lawsuits that are
Speaker 2: being take that have been initiated around the country against
Speaker 2: again smaller bars and places of entertainment that probably think
Speaker 2: they could get away with it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: According to the Globe article license fees averaged less than
Speaker 2: two dollars a day, and ensures that its members can
Speaker 2: earn a living from their art. Okay, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk with an individual from ASCAP. We invited the owner
Speaker 2: of the restaurant Fish Company, because frankly, I'm sort of
Speaker 2: sympathetic to some person who's trying to, you know, get
Speaker 2: a few extra people in the door. And they do
Speaker 2: it by coming up with karaoke night, which is which
Speaker 2: is popular, and now they're being asked to pay a
Speaker 2: couple of bucks a night. Now, if that's what it costs,
Speaker 2: and it's two dollars a night every night they're open
Speaker 2: over the course of a year, that could probably be
Speaker 2: about seven hundred dollars when you think they're open three hundred,
Speaker 2: you know, sixty nights a year. Conversely, conversely, if if
Speaker 2: they don't do it, they're now going to face a
Speaker 2: federal lawsuit from ASCAP seeking damages of anywhere from seven
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars to thirty thousand dollars for each
Speaker 2: of the three songs that were utilized that were played. Now, again,
Speaker 2: I don't go to a lot of karaoke nights, so
Speaker 2: maybe what they do is they pick the three songs,
Speaker 2: and I guess the songs in question were the thunder
Speaker 2: Rolls by Garth Brooks, I Wandered by Keith Sweat and
Speaker 2: some sort of nineteen ninety seven hit Too Close By
Speaker 2: the next Those are the three songs that were played.
Speaker 2: So as a consequence, we're going to take up this
Speaker 2: this topic. It seems to me that the big music providers,
Speaker 2: for example, sports stadiums which are always playing songs, network
Speaker 2: newscasts which sometimes have songs incorporated into their news coverage,
Speaker 2: they know they can afford, they can well afford to
Speaker 2: pay it. Of course, there's a heck of a lot
Speaker 2: more small lounges and bars and clubs where karaoke has
Speaker 2: performed that there are major music venues. And as a
Speaker 2: consequence of all of that, I think it's an interesting question,
Speaker 2: and we will talk with an individual who is a
Speaker 2: representative of ASCAP. I believe We're also going to be
Speaker 2: joined by someone who writes songs, and I'm going to
Speaker 2: ask you to participate. Is your sympathy with as CAAP,
Speaker 2: because they say they're trying to protect the rights of
Speaker 2: song writers and singers and musicians and all of that,
Speaker 2: or do you have a little bit of sympathy in
Speaker 2: heart for the owner of a small bar that it
Speaker 2: might make a difference whether they have karaoke night or not.
Speaker 2: So that's going to be the question coming up here
Speaker 2: on the other side of the nine o'clock News, and
Speaker 2: we will continue to catch up with all the news
Speaker 2: that's going on, particularly in the Middle East. Are we
Speaker 2: coming up on a hard out, guys, or are we
Speaker 2: ready to go right now? Okay, we'll wrap it up
Speaker 2: here and we'll be back with you right after the
Speaker 2: nine o'clock news. You've heard the setup for the first story.
Speaker 2: Later on time, we're going to talk with Ken Gloss
Speaker 2: about a couple of big book events coming up in Boston.
Speaker 2: And then tonight at eleven and the twentieth hour, the
Speaker 2: final twenty twenty four presidential election poll. You'll have a
Speaker 2: chance to weigh in coming back on nightside.