Speaker 1: We can kill it. Shouted it out there? What hell
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 2: Welcome back to midnight viewing. More specifically, we're talking yaucha fest.
Speaker 2: I heard an interview with Dan Trackckenberg recently, and evidently
Speaker 2: I've been saying it wrong this entire time. What a crime?
Speaker 3: HB, yao sa yalloa is a yaucha?
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. I
Speaker 2: wait about this time for that. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: kids and germs and smith mars. This is the one.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we did pray. This is the stopgap. This
Speaker 2: was a surprise. This was a secret project. Evidently nobody
Speaker 2: knew about it while they were doing it. They were
Speaker 2: doing it in conjunction or at the same time as
Speaker 2: Predator bad Lands.
Speaker 4: All Right, Dan Tracktenburg is full of surprises, as will
Speaker 4: be this discussion. I think you'll find father alone. This
Speaker 4: discussion on killer of Killers will be full of surprises
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, that means that HB didn't like it, evidently, so
Speaker 2: let's find out why. First of all, here's the trailer.
Speaker 1: You are old enough. Now it's time I tell you
Speaker 1: about the monster. We must kill it or it will
Speaker 1: kill us.
Speaker 2: Old editor and Killer of Killers, released on June sixth,
Speaker 2: twenty five, on streaming only. This is a Hulu jam.
Speaker 2: It is directed by Dan Tracktonberg, screenplay by Mishow Robert Rutari,
Speaker 2: Story by Dan Tracktonberg and Me Show Robert Routari, based
Speaker 2: on characters by Who Say It with Me? Everybody? Jim
Speaker 2: and John Thomas. And this one stars Lindsay Lavanchi, Louis Ozawa,
Speaker 2: Rick Gonzalez, and Michael B. HB. What did you say this?
Speaker 2: What does you think of this one?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Actually, no, I'm going to take that back. Let me
Speaker 2: just say it is rare in the midst of a
Speaker 2: franchise to receive the gift of an anthology. We hear
Speaker 2: at midnight viewing specialize in anthologies. So what a welcome
Speaker 2: fucking dessert this was for me. I love short fiction.
Speaker 2: I love slices of fiction. Now, HP, did you know
Speaker 2: that part of the inspiration for this film a side
Speaker 2: of Dan Tracktenberg saying a pulp fiction is also an
Speaker 2: anthology because most people think of horror anthologies when they
Speaker 2: think of anthologies at all. But do you know that
Speaker 2: part of the inspiration for this film was best in show.
Speaker 4: That I did not know, and I'm searching trying to
Speaker 4: find the Is it just because of the fact that
Speaker 4: you're dealing with five or six different groups of dog competitors?
Speaker 3: Is at the tie in that's part of it? Okay?
Speaker 4: What's the formal connection between the two?
Speaker 2: You meet each of those characters individually, you fall in
Speaker 2: love with them and their own particular stories, and then
Speaker 2: you have to watch them battle at the end.
Speaker 3: Ah. Interesting.
Speaker 4: Now can I up for one minute before we get
Speaker 4: into this. I just I feel the need to bring
Speaker 4: this up now. I didn't want to imply that I
Speaker 4: did not like this. I'm maybe I'm spoiling the discussion
Speaker 4: a little bit, but it's not that I did not
Speaker 4: like it.
Speaker 3: It's just we'll get into it.
Speaker 4: But just understand, first of all, I love the fact
Speaker 4: that this was a surprise that was sprung on people.
Speaker 3: Without any real notice.
Speaker 4: It was like getting a present on when it's not Christmas.
Speaker 2: It reminded me.
Speaker 4: It reminded me a little bit of when musicians sometimes
Speaker 4: have a surprise album drop. Bowie did this with the
Speaker 4: next day. I remember it was a big deal to
Speaker 4: me because it came out of nowhere. He hadn't recorded
Speaker 4: in forever, and there we had this gift of an
Speaker 4: album kind of out of the blue. So I really
Speaker 4: I love the fact that trackten Berger. It makes me
Speaker 4: feel like he values the fans and loves that shock,
Speaker 4: surprise and appreciation of something that kind of out of
Speaker 4: It's not like he had to do it.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 4: He wasn't under any obligation to give us these the
Speaker 4: gift of this movie or this animated collection of shorts.
Speaker 4: But so all due respect to Trachtenberg, I love the
Speaker 4: fact that we were gifted this essentially.
Speaker 3: But let's dig into it a little bit.
Speaker 4: And I'll go into some of my the pros and cons,
Speaker 4: my likes and dislikes of this.
Speaker 2: Too late. You didn't like get the atracted Mercades.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope not, because I respect the hell out
Speaker 4: of him. I love I love what he's done with
Speaker 4: the franchise. But let's dig into this a little bit.
Speaker 2: Let us do that three stories technically four, because there
Speaker 2: is a wrap up, a wrap around, if you will
Speaker 2: take us there HB.
Speaker 4: Broad Strokes. The first episode takes place in its Viking times.
Speaker 4: It's called The Shield, and it involves a.
Speaker 2: This is the oldest one, This is the oldest story.
Speaker 2: This takes place in eight forty one ad.
Speaker 4: Ah okay I must not have written down the year.
Speaker 3: So this is the story of a shield.
Speaker 4: Maiden in Viking times who is obsessed with vengeance. She's
Speaker 4: trying to she wants to kill the feudal lord or
Speaker 4: what have you who murdered her, actually forced her to
Speaker 4: murder her own father. And she's taking among the people
Speaker 4: she takes with her as her son, and they have
Speaker 4: this final assault on his palace, if you will. And
Speaker 4: of course who has to come and crash the party
Speaker 4: but our friend the Yaucha.
Speaker 3: So that's story one.
Speaker 4: Story two is a little further into the future. It
Speaker 4: takes place in sixteen oh nine feudal Japan. This, by
Speaker 4: the way, spoiler alert, this was my favorite of the
Speaker 4: stories that we get.
Speaker 3: This one was called The Sword.
Speaker 4: This is about two brothers who are supposed to fight
Speaker 4: to decide who gets to carry on the samurai tradition
Speaker 4: of their father. One of them runs away in disgrace
Speaker 4: and becomes essentially a ronin, and they eventually the father dies.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, sir, he did not become a robin Ronan.
Speaker 2: He became a shinobi, a Ronan is a disgraced samurai.
Speaker 2: He becomes a ninja.
Speaker 3: That's fine, I stand corrected.
Speaker 2: This is the classic tale of samurai versus ninja.
Speaker 4: Yes versus and again it's they're having this showdown, the
Speaker 4: father has died. They're having this showdown, and who crashes
Speaker 4: the party? Our friend, the Yaucha. The third tale is
Speaker 4: called I have it here. It's called The Bullet It
Speaker 4: takes place in nineteen forty one. It's the story of
Speaker 4: a young man who dreams of becoming a pilot.
Speaker 3: One day he is.
Speaker 4: He eventually joins the war effort. In nineteen forty two,
Speaker 4: there's an air battle. Once again, our friends the crashed
Speaker 4: the party, as it were, I already said that before.
Speaker 4: I used that metaphor twice.
Speaker 3: Thank you. And this young man what's his name, Gonzalez?
Speaker 3: I think his name is Torres.
Speaker 2: Sorry Tores played by Rick Gonzalez.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where the mix up was.
Speaker 4: Torres musters the courage to try and take out the Yaucha.
Speaker 4: And then the fourth technically the fourth and final entry
Speaker 4: in this anthology is spoiler alert. All of the main
Speaker 4: characters of the preceding three stories beat the predators. They
Speaker 4: effectively kill the Predators. The fourth story is they've all
Speaker 4: been brought together to the Yaucha home planet to juke
Speaker 4: it out in gladiatorial combat to decide who is wait
Speaker 4: for it, the Killer of Killers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that last story is called the Battle.
Speaker 3: By the way, The Battle, Oh sorry I left that out.
Speaker 2: Let's Dig into the Shield my favorite story. In fact,
Speaker 2: I wish these stories had been played in reverse order.
Speaker 2: I wish we had started with the Bullet and then
Speaker 2: gone back further and further in time.
Speaker 4: It would have been an interesting choice. I so I
Speaker 4: said that the the one that in Japan that the
Speaker 4: Sword was my favorite. This one was a very close second.
Speaker 3: I really like this.
Speaker 4: This is a very solid introduction to the world and
Speaker 4: the sort of look of this because it is animated,
Speaker 4: but it's not animated in a traditional sense. It almost
Speaker 4: looks and I think the team that animated this, they're
Speaker 4: known primarily as a Previz team, and that's the vibe
Speaker 4: I get from this. It's both kind of a strength
Speaker 4: and a weakness of this, because if you don't like
Speaker 4: the look of this animation, you're predisposed to not really
Speaker 4: enjoying the experience.
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing about every animation, honestly, And
Speaker 2: the further and further the older and older I get,
Speaker 2: the more and more I find that I either respond
Speaker 2: to the character design or I don't, and no amount
Speaker 2: of oh wow, that school wizbang whatever is going to
Speaker 2: change that or make me enjoy that thing. Luckily, these
Speaker 2: look like watercolor paintings come to life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very cool.
Speaker 4: They have a three dimensionality to them, which I think
Speaker 4: is appealing. And it's animated very well. I like you,
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it. I thought it's probably a less
Speaker 4: expensive way of producing the animation because it's not as
Speaker 4: smooth or as detailed as other animation that I've seen.
Speaker 3: But this worked very well, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is a story I like the most
Speaker 2: basically because it's it goes everywhere I want a story
Speaker 2: to go. It has breathless action, it has fantastic action
Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, and it has crazy emotion
Speaker 2: and it leaves you devastated at the end, and that's
Speaker 2: what I'm looking for. And no Predator movie to this
Speaker 2: point has left me feeling that way at the end, bereft,
Speaker 2: even Predators where they're trapped on that planet. Because I
Speaker 2: didn't give a shit about those characters. This story is
Speaker 2: twenty two minutes maybe in length, and by the end
Speaker 2: I was absolutely shredded for Ursa.
Speaker 4: It's a powerful story and it's well told, and I
Speaker 4: think what you hit upon is one thing that we
Speaker 4: talked about in the context of Prey the last episode,
Speaker 4: which is pro was we basically agreed that Pray you
Speaker 4: could have taken the Yaucha out of it entirely, and
Speaker 4: it could have been. It would have been a very
Speaker 4: compelling story of this Native American tribe and the struggles
Speaker 4: of Naturu and how she was going to navigate the culture.
Speaker 4: The best stories in this anthology, in my opinion, follow
Speaker 4: a similar dynamic. So this one the story of the
Speaker 4: shield Maid and looking for vengeance against her her hated
Speaker 4: this person that destroyed her world essentially and made it.
Speaker 3: So that she says she feels that there's.
Speaker 4: A monster inside of her that cannot be it can't
Speaker 4: be slaked until she kills this person. That's a very
Speaker 4: compelling story without the other worldly dealings with the predator.
Speaker 4: Same thing when we get to the Sword, it's the
Speaker 4: same deal. We really care about these characters, and it's
Speaker 4: such a compelling tale that they tell that with or
Speaker 4: without the Yaucha, it's still going to be a cool
Speaker 4: story that they're telling. That to me is what marks
Speaker 4: the best of these anthology pieces is and The Shield
Speaker 4: is a good example of that.
Speaker 2: I've been in the anthology trenches for years now, and
Speaker 2: I can say with authority that the greatest thing an
Speaker 2: anthology story can be is economical with its time. And
Speaker 2: each of these is incredibly economical their fleet to foot,
Speaker 2: considering how much shoe leather they're laying out here. And
Speaker 2: I agree with you, the best predator stories are the
Speaker 2: ones that could exist without the predator, that could just
Speaker 2: be whatever the threat happens to be. At the end
Speaker 2: of the Shield, the predator character might as well have
Speaker 2: been the Zorn character, which is the be evil warlord
Speaker 2: that she's come to kill. She dispatches them, or rather
Speaker 2: her son dispatches him pretty quickly, but and then she
Speaker 2: has to fight the predator, so that easily just could
Speaker 2: have been swapped out in her fight Zarren and then
Speaker 2: come with the same outcome. However, what they do here
Speaker 2: by aditing the predator is they do something really which
Speaker 2: is they tell us once again the story of Baio Wolf,
Speaker 2: where they've come to this king's grand hall and they're
Speaker 2: in there, all these warriors, and then this monster of
Speaker 2: Grendel shows up, and the fact they call him Grendel
Speaker 2: as soon as he does, and that to me was
Speaker 2: fan fucking tasting, a real world sci fi reasoning for
Speaker 2: the Beowulf tale to have been told in the first place.
Speaker 4: I thought that was really cool too, that because that's
Speaker 4: the only frame of reference these characters have back then,
Speaker 4: is this mythology of this great monster that's come to
Speaker 4: do battle with them. Of course they would lean on
Speaker 4: their own mythology to make sense of what's happening around them.
Speaker 4: The other kind of cool thing that they introduce in this,
Speaker 4: and we've seen this in the other Predator movies especially,
Speaker 4: is that each Predator, each Yaucha, has some kind of
Speaker 4: unique style or weaponry that kind of distinguishes them from
Speaker 4: any of the other yaucher that we've seen.
Speaker 3: We saw this in every one of the movies.
Speaker 4: This has one of those kind of cool weapons. He
Speaker 4: has what's essentially like a sonic spring. He's missing a hand,
Speaker 4: this yaucha, and in its place, it's this spring loaded
Speaker 4: device that when it's fired, it shoots like a wave
Speaker 4: of sound energy and knocks down people, can break things.
Speaker 4: I love the technology. Every little morsel of technology that
Speaker 4: they introduce with the Yaucha, I think is always really special.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, when Pray we discovered that they hadn't at that
Speaker 2: time come up with energy based weapons. They were still
Speaker 2: using projectiles. So this is even further back. This is
Speaker 2: like a thousand years before that movie. It only makes
Speaker 2: sense that it's going to be more physical and less
Speaker 2: sort of sci fi energy based phasers or something. And
Speaker 2: if so, that makes it almost steampunk because he has
Speaker 2: to lock it into place to get it to work
Speaker 2: every time, basically like Prime the Pump not only like
Speaker 2: the cool, steampunky version of a Predator weapon, but it
Speaker 2: does continue the care with which Tracktenberger's treating all of
Speaker 2: this because, as he said, each of them has their
Speaker 2: own specialized weapon, and he knows that as fans, we
Speaker 2: like that shit. We want new stuff and we want
Speaker 2: it to be super cool, and all the weapons are
Speaker 2: super cool, and this one in particular more than the
Speaker 2: other stories. And maybe the reason I like it the
Speaker 2: most is that's that Predator's ace in the hole. That's
Speaker 2: what he thinks and probably has gotten him out of
Speaker 2: every scrape he's ever been into or ever been in,
Speaker 2: and it's the thing that effectively kills him here at
Speaker 2: the end. I love the ending and using the shield
Speaker 2: and that knocks her back and knocks him into the
Speaker 2: fucking anchor, and ah, I don't know, loved it, loved it.
Speaker 4: That's key to all of these stories is the combatant,
Speaker 4: the human going up against the predator always figures out
Speaker 4: how what's the secret to beating it? What's that thing
Speaker 4: that makes the vulnerable.
Speaker 3: Or how do they use their weaponry against them?
Speaker 4: I think that's the thing that kind of binds them
Speaker 4: all together, all of these winners in the predator battles,
Speaker 4: they all have the ability to figure out what's happening,
Speaker 4: quickly process that information and figure out a way to
Speaker 4: use it back against the predator.
Speaker 2: And they don't. Really. Half of every Predator movie till
Speaker 2: now is them figuring out those things. Oh, it can't
Speaker 2: see Cole. Like here, she's under a fucking ice flow,
Speaker 2: She's beneath a frozen lake and it can't see her.
Speaker 2: Does that matter to her? No, She's just trying to breathe.
Speaker 2: We as the audience already know. So I'm glad he's
Speaker 2: working his way towards that where we don't have to
Speaker 2: be introduced to the rules of the predator every single
Speaker 2: fucking time. How many times can we watch fucking Bruce
Speaker 2: Wayne crying over his parents' corpse.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing about this that I appreciate is
Speaker 4: he's clear he's doing this. Trackenberg is doing this. He's
Speaker 4: produced this for the fans. And that's the earest indication
Speaker 4: that you just described, which is he doesn't have to
Speaker 4: sit there and give you the rundown on the Yaucha
Speaker 4: and their existence and their history and how they work
Speaker 4: and their code of ethics and honor.
Speaker 3: We all know that.
Speaker 4: So clearly this was executed in such a way that
Speaker 4: fans are going to have a field, have a lot
Speaker 4: of fun with this, and not have to be spoon
Speaker 4: fed the origin and how this all works.
Speaker 3: It's all.
Speaker 4: The word you used was like economical. This is so
Speaker 4: streamlined and efficient storytelling. It's really that part of its
Speaker 4: I think very effective.
Speaker 2: I think it's not only excellent service for the fans
Speaker 2: because it's not insulting to us and it came out
Speaker 2: of nowhere and we love this and we want more
Speaker 2: of it. But it allows him to expand his universe
Speaker 2: exponentially and very simply the fact that this entire movie
Speaker 2: starts with a quote from the Yaucha codex, go forth
Speaker 2: among the stars and seek only the strongest prey. They
Speaker 2: shall be your trophy. Become the killer of killers. That's
Speaker 2: from them, and this is the first sort of text
Speaker 2: we've received from the Yaucha. Apparently there is a law book,
Speaker 2: and that's one of them.
Speaker 4: The more and more he expands the universe, so the
Speaker 4: cooler it is, and we see a lot of that
Speaker 4: come the end of this movie. But for me, it's
Speaker 4: also very chilling. And there's something very disturbing about one
Speaker 4: aspect of the basically the third going into the fourth
Speaker 4: story that we'll talk about. But the bottom line is
Speaker 4: Tracktenberg and his team of writers and everyone else, they're
Speaker 4: just so smart at expanding this universe in such a
Speaker 4: logical way and making it. I'm not sure they would
Speaker 4: ever dreamed of where the Yaucher is now when the
Speaker 4: first Predator was made back in eighty six, some forty
Speaker 4: years ago. It's pretty remarkable what we we have now
Speaker 4: versus what was originally given to us back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, what like, finally somebody fucking innovating,
Speaker 2: because what we had thirty years in between Predator and
Speaker 2: Predators and they just told the same fucking movie. Pretty much,
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the jungle with a bunch of soldiers. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's do it. Hey gives the show we got dogs now, Okay, great.
Speaker 2: I know I liked that movie more than I'm letting on,
Speaker 2: but give me a break already. Anyway, let's move on
Speaker 2: to the next story. By the way, I listened to
Speaker 2: and ran a bunch of interviews with Tracktenberg about this film,
Speaker 2: and as if my admiration wasn't high enough, he gives
Speaker 2: credit like it's fucking Halloween candy. He like everyone who
Speaker 2: points out something that was cool that came from another
Speaker 2: person's idea, he points that person out immediately, And I
Speaker 2: admire that.
Speaker 4: I love humility. I love somebody who gives credit where
Speaker 4: credit is due.
Speaker 3: Makes me like him even more.
Speaker 2: All right, Take us to the Take us to the
Speaker 2: Sword sixty oh nine Feudal Japan. Beautiful chakrahachi flutes playing.
Speaker 2: I would like to mention the score. By the way,
Speaker 2: Benjamin Wallfish did the score. He's a very prolific film
Speaker 2: composer and television composer. As a matter of fact, I
Speaker 2: listened to this entire soundtrack they're getting Dan today. It is.
Speaker 2: It's remarkably good and only occasionally plays on the dundadum
Speaker 2: that has to be in every Predator thing. But he
Speaker 2: works it in so well that I just fucking love
Speaker 2: it anyway, the sort what else?
Speaker 3: What else has he done soundtracks for?
Speaker 2: Most recently, he did the soundtrack to it. He was
Speaker 2: the co author of the Blade Runner twenty forty nine soundtrack.
Speaker 2: He did, He did Shazam. He did hell Boy, that's
Speaker 2: the bad hell Boy with David Harber, not.
Speaker 3: The Oh yeah, the most recent. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's also Leewan El's go to guy. So he did
Speaker 2: the Invisible Man and Wolfman. He did that last Mortal
Speaker 2: Kombat movie. He's doing the new Mortal Kombat movie. Oh,
Speaker 2: he did the Flash for Andy Mashetti. He did Twisters,
Speaker 2: he did Alien Aromulus. So he actually in the fucking
Speaker 2: neighborhood already. Wow. He is prolific and good and we'll
Speaker 2: be reviewing his music again in a few weeks because
Speaker 2: he did Predator, bad Lands, Super The Sword, My Man.
Speaker 3: The Sword.
Speaker 4: Like I said before, your favorite, right, it was my favorite.
Speaker 4: I'm a sucker for a good tale of feudal Japan
Speaker 4: where you know it's there. It's honor running through everything
Speaker 4: you these The Seven Samurai is one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 4: I love all that stuff. I love the honor that
Speaker 4: that they present. I love this idea of the duty
Speaker 4: that these two brothers feel. The one who's disgraced and
Speaker 4: has become a shinobi, the other wants to uphold the
Speaker 4: tradition of his father, and that just the idea that
Speaker 4: they're both they're having this last duel together. Like I said,
Speaker 4: even outside of the alien aspect of it, that alone
Speaker 4: would be an interesting tale. It's it's from lack of
Speaker 4: a better word, it's shot really well, it's animated really well.
Speaker 3: The action is great. I just love it.
Speaker 4: I love martial arts movies, so this was very much
Speaker 4: in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 2: Agreed, The action is all fucking fantastic here. And I'd
Speaker 2: like to point out that I forgot to mention in
Speaker 2: the last story The Shield, when they finally arrive at
Speaker 2: Zorn's compound and Ursa jumps off that boat, that's one
Speaker 2: shot from beginning right until she gets to Zarn it's
Speaker 2: all on intaken. It's fucking amazing.
Speaker 4: Anyway, Banks, we should we also should mention before we
Speaker 4: get to that, that there's this thing that he does
Speaker 4: where at the very end after the Shield, Maiden has
Speaker 4: not only killed the predator, but sadly she has lost
Speaker 4: her own son. And it's the story, like you said,
Speaker 4: it's heart wrenching because he dies in her arms. But
Speaker 4: what essentially happens at that point is it fades into
Speaker 4: another scene where now she has some kind of collar
Speaker 4: around her neck and somebody's kneeling in her presence. She
Speaker 4: doesn't know where she is. We don't know what's going
Speaker 4: on as audience members, but this will become part of
Speaker 4: effectively the wrap around story and the finale. But I
Speaker 4: love this little mystery that Tracktenberg is presenting us with
Speaker 4: because we already know just from the idea of the
Speaker 4: Killer of Killers what's probably happening.
Speaker 3: But it's like leaving.
Speaker 4: These little clues as to the ultimate fate of these characters.
Speaker 4: But then anyway, we move into the Sword, this story
Speaker 4: of these two brothers and the father that has split
Speaker 4: them into very compelling stuff. And one aspect of this
Speaker 4: that I think is cool in both stories up till
Speaker 4: now is the Predator is there but really observing, studying
Speaker 4: in a way that we don't.
Speaker 3: They do this in the other.
Speaker 4: Movies, but in this sense, it's almost as if he's
Speaker 4: following their individual stories even as he's making his own
Speaker 4: plan for what he's going to try to accomplish.
Speaker 3: It's very cool.
Speaker 4: So he's observing these characters just as we are. It's
Speaker 4: almost like he's a proxy for the audience up to
Speaker 4: a point.
Speaker 2: Professionals being professional. I just like watching the Predator doing
Speaker 2: his thing man and what he's focused on in any
Speaker 2: one time. These three guys have arrows. What are they doing?
Speaker 2: Target practice? This guy's wait, who's this dude? Aha? Finally
Speaker 2: some action loved it.
Speaker 3: It's great, it's great.
Speaker 2: So they you know, there's a reason that these, this
Speaker 2: particular group of stories could be told without the Predator,
Speaker 2: and that's because these are the oldest stories in human history.
Speaker 2: I've got to get revenge from my father's story, and
Speaker 2: that revenge makes you should dig two graves. There you go,
Speaker 2: brother versus brother. You want Dad's love, I want Dad's love.
Speaker 2: I became a And then on top of that, Ninja
Speaker 2: versus Samurai which we've also seen how many times, So
Speaker 2: look the secret sauce here is the Predator. But I
Speaker 2: do agree these are so beautifully animated that had you
Speaker 2: just given me a movie called Killer of Killers, I
Speaker 2: would have been like, ah, wow, yeah, those were the
Speaker 2: Killer of Killers. They were the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And what the other thing that is apparent to me
Speaker 4: is that, obviously, Pray we sung the Virtues of Prey
Speaker 4: to an amazing degree in the last episode. We both
Speaker 4: loved it, and audience has loved it because it essentially
Speaker 4: rejuvenated the franchise. But I think it's in bold and
Speaker 4: Tracktenburg to do is to say, you know what, I
Speaker 4: think there's an appetite for people to see these historical
Speaker 4: versions of these Predator tales. Everything up before Prey, everything
Speaker 4: was basically modern day or near future sort of tales
Speaker 4: of the Predator. We knew that he existed in the
Speaker 4: past or the race existed in the past because of
Speaker 4: the Adelini gun that Danny Glover gets way back in
Speaker 4: Predator too. But it's just so smart of Tracten Bird
Speaker 4: to keep pulling on that thread of the Predator all
Speaker 4: through history and the fact that they've always been here
Speaker 4: and they're always finding new ways to battle humans and
Speaker 4: the ingenuity of these these humans throughout history to battle
Speaker 4: and kill these predators. It's it's like I said, I
Speaker 4: maybe I seemed a little too harsh at the outset
Speaker 4: of this episode. It's not as if I didn't appreciate
Speaker 4: it and I don't love the idea behind it. I
Speaker 4: just think that's just so creative. And obviously with bad Lands,
Speaker 4: he's going in the opposite direction. It looks like it's
Speaker 4: now we're heading back into the future for the next
Speaker 4: phase of this series.
Speaker 2: But actually committed to that idea as opposed to just
Speaker 2: dicking around. The last one took place. Now we can't
Speaker 2: really have another one. This won't take place ten years
Speaker 2: after that one. Why who cares? Go backwards? Motherfucker? We
Speaker 2: don't care what the continuity of these things. It's insane
Speaker 2: to me that it took this long for anyone to
Speaker 2: figure it out. Honestly, add Predator to any genre in
Speaker 2: any time period. You're gonna have a fucking good movie
Speaker 2: as long as you don't just keep repeating the first film.
Speaker 4: Obviously he has an ultimate license, or he should, I
Speaker 4: would say, if I'm the movie studio, I would give
Speaker 4: him carte blanche to do whatever the hell he wants.
Speaker 4: If he wants to do a Raiders of the Lost
Speaker 4: Arc meets the Predator movie, fucking do it. If he
Speaker 4: wants to do who like that kind of an archie
Speaker 4: versus Predator type thing where it's like a teen sex
Speaker 4: comedy with the Predator mixed up.
Speaker 3: Sign me up, I'm already in line. I'm there.
Speaker 4: So again, we're really we're praising him an awful lot,
Speaker 4: but I think it's very well deserved.
Speaker 3: And even if he might not take all that credit
Speaker 3: for himself, maybe.
Speaker 4: He would give it to the other people who He
Speaker 4: doesn't do this all by himself, let's face it, but
Speaker 4: he is the secret sauce that made this series come
Speaker 4: alive again.
Speaker 2: And that brings us to your favorite segment, the bull.
Speaker 2: The bullet, by the way, is the name of his plane, yes,
Speaker 2: and that is his weapon. You get the idea here,
Speaker 2: shield sword, bullet.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 4: My favorite part of this, by the way, is the
Speaker 4: fact that Michael Bean was in it, and I didn't
Speaker 4: even know it was Michael Bean. I thought that was
Speaker 4: really cool because we all love Michael Bean. But having
Speaker 4: said that, this was my least favorite episode for a
Speaker 4: variety of reasons, but really it was a little It
Speaker 4: felt to me like an episode of Amazing Stories.
Speaker 3: That's what it felt like to me.
Speaker 4: It felt it leaned very heavily, far too heavily, in
Speaker 4: my opinion, into the action adventure comedy kind of thing.
Speaker 4: It felt like, what was that episode with Kevin Costner
Speaker 4: with a tailgunner get stuck.
Speaker 3: In the thing?
Speaker 2: The mission?
Speaker 3: The mission? Yeah, it felt like the mission.
Speaker 2: Casey Schamasco is a belly gunner trapped in the bubble
Speaker 2: dome on the bottom of a B seventeen landing gear
Speaker 2: won't come down. But he's a cartoonist, and this is
Speaker 2: a man Spielberg episode.
Speaker 4: I really wanted to like this particular episode of the
Speaker 4: movie because I love the idea that it's the nineteen forties,
Speaker 4: it's World War two. I being an amateur UFO buff
Speaker 4: I'm aware that there have been UFO sightings in wartime.
Speaker 4: I think they were originally called the Foo Fighters. Think
Speaker 4: that's the origin of that name. They called them Foo Fighters.
Speaker 4: I was so excited to see that kind of idea
Speaker 4: come to life in the context of a Predator movie.
Speaker 4: But really what we got was it felt safe to me,
Speaker 4: and I don't think the Predator series works when it
Speaker 4: plays it safe.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll give it. It's the first time we've
Speaker 2: seen a dog fighting Predator. It's the first time that
Speaker 2: we've seen an aerial dog fighting fella. And to me,
Speaker 2: that being his secret weapon, his specialized thing, was super
Speaker 2: duper cool. This should have been my favorite AP episode
Speaker 2: or my favorite story. Like you said, it takes place
Speaker 2: during World War Two, and it takes place during the
Speaker 2: North African Campaign, and it's about an air battle above
Speaker 2: the fucking the fray. And like you said, this is
Speaker 2: where modern UFO lore comes from. It starts at the
Speaker 2: end of World War Two. Or there are reports during
Speaker 2: World War two of as you said, Foo fighters where
Speaker 2: B seventeen pilots will report strange lights following them for
Speaker 2: miles and then disappearing in a way that didn't seem
Speaker 2: terrestrial in origin. And there's an entire squadron that went
Speaker 2: missing in the quote unquote Bermuda Triangle not too long
Speaker 2: after the end of the World War Two that they
Speaker 2: could have used, and the idea that we could have
Speaker 2: gotten the I know, look, they did it so well
Speaker 2: in heavy metal, but the idea that they could have
Speaker 2: had a B seventeen flying Fortress battling a predator. A
Speaker 2: crew of humans fighting a predator is super cool to me.
Speaker 2: But that's not the story they're telling. They want to
Speaker 2: give us dog fights. Okay, fine, let's do that, but
Speaker 2: let's have him get out of the fucking cockpit at all,
Speaker 2: because what the fuck are you doing. I ride a
Speaker 2: bike to and from work. If I take my hands
Speaker 2: off the handlebars for a second, I'm going to be
Speaker 2: in a lot of pain. This character is constantly getting
Speaker 2: out of his airplane. What the fuck is happening?
Speaker 4: That's really where it lost me bottom alone for good.
Speaker 4: This particular vignette is at one point his auxiliary fuel
Speaker 4: tank is on fire, I think, and he asked. He
Speaker 4: literally gets out of his cockpit at six thousand miles
Speaker 4: above the ocean to basically work it out by hand,
Speaker 4: to bang on it till it look.
Speaker 3: I'm deathly afraid of heights.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 4: I went with my kids once to one of these
Speaker 4: treetop adventure things, and I had to be helped down
Speaker 4: because I was terrified of even being twenty feet up
Speaker 4: in the air. It was probably not even probably ten feet.
Speaker 4: It look, by definition, it's already straining credulity because we're
Speaker 4: dealing with an alien creature who's dogfighting with an entire squadron.
Speaker 4: But having said that, the idea that this guy clambers
Speaker 4: out of his cockpit and he's talking on the radio
Speaker 4: and he's doing all these things and not having a
Speaker 4: heart attack at everything that's happening, that the horror of
Speaker 4: what he's presented with it just seemed it was a
Speaker 4: bridge too far for me at that point. And to
Speaker 4: be honest, I checked out a little bit at that point.
Speaker 2: He gets out of that cockpit multiple times, and that
Speaker 2: is to me also where I checked out, because, like
Speaker 2: I said, you tell me he tied off the fucking rudder,
Speaker 2: you know, the stick? Okay, fine, and as soon as
Speaker 2: it tilts in any direction, even if he look he's
Speaker 2: a pilot. He has no fear of fights. I get that.
Speaker 2: And he's probably been out on a wing of a
Speaker 2: plane maybe when it's been in the air before, because
Speaker 2: those guys are crazy. But the idea that the technology
Speaker 2: is working in concert with him and everything is working
Speaker 2: fine while a predator in advanced alien ship is hunting
Speaker 2: him down is fucking or ridiculous.
Speaker 4: It was ludicrous, and yeah, it made me frankly sad
Speaker 4: because I'm rooting for Tractenburg. I in Tractenburg, we trust.
Speaker 4: This just seemed to me to totally it was off.
Speaker 4: I get what he was trying to do. Maybe he
Speaker 4: was trying to make it a little more lighthearted than
Speaker 4: the rest, and by that definition he succeeded, But it
Speaker 4: just wasn't for me. Maybe some maybe this was some
Speaker 4: people's favorite episode of this particular anthology, but it wasn't mine.
Speaker 2: It's just okay at best, which is probably which is
Speaker 2: definitely what prompted my proposal that they show these in
Speaker 2: reverse order they'd started in the forties and we worked
Speaker 2: our way back in time. It would have been way
Speaker 2: more powerful, because here's the thing. What he's working against
Speaker 2: is the great bummer that we finally discover, and we
Speaker 2: discover about the predators overall eventually, is that if you
Speaker 2: beat them, they're coming to take you. And that's a
Speaker 2: fucking drag man on a certain level, it's a fucking drag.
Speaker 4: That was the most horrifying part of this whole movie
Speaker 4: for me. Father Malone is after in the final sort
Speaker 4: of vignette where we are. At the end of this
Speaker 4: the bullet Torres.
Speaker 3: Has gone back to civilian life.
Speaker 4: He now has his own mechanic shop. This is probably months,
Speaker 4: if not years after this battle all happened, so it's it.
Speaker 4: All this time has gone by and the predator still
Speaker 4: has not forgotten what he did, but tracks him down
Speaker 4: to where he lives in I think Florida. That's horrifying
Speaker 4: to me that it doesn't matter. It could be three
Speaker 4: or four years after you kill that predator. They will
Speaker 4: find you and they will take you against your will
Speaker 4: into a spaceship back to their home planet with really
Speaker 4: no way of getting back home. That's so fucking scary
Speaker 4: to me. That's worse than the average alien abduction because
Speaker 4: you're getting taken because you've survived. But they don't see
Speaker 4: it that way. The Yaucha don't see it that way.
Speaker 4: They want your cunning, they want your ability to fight
Speaker 4: for their own amusement.
Speaker 3: That's scary as hell.
Speaker 2: It's a whole other level to the predator. So that
Speaker 2: I don't like about them, but that's okay. They are
Speaker 2: the villains after.
Speaker 3: All, agreed. It makes them even more hateable as villains
Speaker 3: because they, yes, they do have a code. They won't.
Speaker 4: They usually don't kill you if you're not an armed and
Speaker 4: not a threat. But Torres, it had been forever since
Speaker 4: he fought and killed the predator, had he was just
Speaker 4: living his life and he gets taken by this ship.
Speaker 2: Scary, so we end up Oh, not only are do
Speaker 2: you end up grabbed by the predators and taken from
Speaker 2: your world to be shipped off to fight in some
Speaker 2: gladiatorial combat at some point. But that's the point I'm making.
Speaker 2: It's at some point. These characters have been some sort
Speaker 2: of cryo freeze for hundreds of years, and now they're
Speaker 2: just being thought out. This is obviously the first time
Speaker 2: they've been thought out, because they don't know what's going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the fuck he's on this ship with the
Speaker 4: Shield Maiden and the Shinobi. How what do we say,
Speaker 4: six ninety one was when the Viking shield.
Speaker 2: Eight hundred a D sixteen hundred a D and nineteen
Speaker 2: forty five or so or seven.
Speaker 4: Maybe hundreds of years. That's so scary to me, Like
Speaker 4: that's like your worst nightmare. You're taken from the everything
Speaker 4: you know and love and put on this planet tould
Speaker 4: just kill.
Speaker 2: So they're paraded out to an arena where they're going
Speaker 2: to have to kill one another, and then the victor
Speaker 2: has the privilege of fighting. The character is listed as
Speaker 2: the Grendel King. Yeah, okay, so that's now. First of all,
Speaker 2: when they come out of the ship and they're marching
Speaker 2: to the arena and the predators are all kneeling on
Speaker 2: either side of them, that was great. Yeah, I like
Speaker 2: that the predators still have the respect even if they're
Speaker 2: doing this horrible fucking thing to these people.
Speaker 4: But yeah, if you can kill these other people, then
Speaker 4: it's not as if you then are given the ability
Speaker 4: to leave. All that affords you is the ability to
Speaker 4: get killed by an even larger and meaner predator than you've.
Speaker 3: Already dealt with.
Speaker 2: What do you win if you beat him? They never
Speaker 2: tell us.
Speaker 3: I was wondering about that too. I don't know, because.
Speaker 2: Do you become the king of of all the ouches,
Speaker 2: this foreigner from another planet becomes their king. No.
Speaker 4: I would assume that if you make it that far,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure precious few ever do that, they just
Speaker 4: put you on ice again, that you put back into cryo,
Speaker 4: and then when the next maybe you then become.
Speaker 3: The killer of killers that they have to get through.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any real reward at the end
Speaker 4: of all this, other than and surviving another day.
Speaker 2: It would be cool if you become if you're really
Speaker 2: good at it, if you're a killer of killers, you
Speaker 2: become the one that they drop onto a planet with
Speaker 2: a bunch of like young predators, like they you're the
Speaker 2: feared thing. But when okay, when they're gonna pit these
Speaker 2: guys against each other, they give them weapons from their
Speaker 2: home world, figuring this is what you need. So they
Speaker 2: give him a sword, and they give her some sort
Speaker 2: of axe, very Viking. And then they give him and
Speaker 2: this should be a clue as to where we're going
Speaker 2: at the end of this, they give him the end Alini.
Speaker 3: Pistol, but with no ammunition.
Speaker 2: There is ambunition. It's sitting right there. He just doesn't
Speaker 2: know what to do with it.
Speaker 4: Oh, he just he fumbles it and then he realizes
Speaker 4: what it is. You're right, I thought the ammunition popped
Speaker 4: up in another like at another point in their fight,
Speaker 4: just after the fight goes on for a little while.
Speaker 2: It had popped up. He just hadn't seen it. He
Speaker 2: just grabbed a gun and thought, I'm going to use
Speaker 2: this gun, and then afterwards when oh what, oh, I
Speaker 2: see the weapon has gunpowder and such.
Speaker 4: Which kind of ties it in with prey because that's
Speaker 4: Naduru also struggled with the pistol a little bit. She
Speaker 4: didn't even after being told how to do it, she
Speaker 4: still doesn't understand the gunpowder and all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: So she had never seen a pistol before, so she
Speaker 2: has an excuse.
Speaker 3: But he had never seen a flint lock.
Speaker 4: It's probably a fair bet that Tores hadn't never seen
Speaker 4: one of those.
Speaker 2: Come on, Dorez, you know what you're supposed to You
Speaker 2: got to put the powder in. You gotta ram rod
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 4: But while he's trying to because it's what it's like
Speaker 4: a for step process to load and fire these things.
Speaker 4: But meanwhile he has the shield maiden kind of decides
Speaker 4: immediately that this is what she has to do, just
Speaker 4: starts swinging the axe. The Shanobi at least realizes, maybe
Speaker 4: he actually decides he's not going to fight because he's
Speaker 4: not going to fight for someone else's amusement, and he
Speaker 4: just doesn't believe.
Speaker 3: In the whole thing.
Speaker 4: And Torres is just trying to figure out a way
Speaker 4: to get to the ship so he can fly them
Speaker 4: off that world. So he's struggling with this pistol. Meanwhile
Speaker 4: this shield maiden is swinging this big fucking sharp ACKs
Speaker 4: at him and trying to kill him, and the Shinobi's
Speaker 4: just trying to keep the piece as best he can.
Speaker 4: And they also have they we should also mention that
Speaker 4: they have the universal translators that so they can talk
Speaker 4: and be understood in each other's language, at least to
Speaker 4: a certain degree. And we get more of the Yaucha speaking,
Speaker 4: and I know there's something, like I said, cool and
Speaker 4: chilling about all of that.
Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved hearing him speak, and I
Speaker 2: loved hearing the translation. More of that, please, I'm so
Speaker 2: excited for bad lance. Okay, I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 4: We're going to get that in bad at least according
Speaker 4: to the trailers, we're going to get a lot of that.
Speaker 4: But anyway, we'll cross that bridge when we come to
Speaker 4: it very soon.
Speaker 2: Right, so to get away when one remains, although, oh
Speaker 2: you know what, here's something that happens, much much like Voltan,
Speaker 2: he's got a few tricks of his sleeves. This grendel king.
Speaker 2: If they're not going to fight each other, let's courage them.
Speaker 2: So they released beasts from other worlds, yes, including one
Speaker 2: with this maw on the top of its head that
Speaker 2: eats Torres. And I gotta tell you, HP when he
Speaker 2: did eat Toarres, I thought, oh wow, the steaks got
Speaker 2: really high. Also, I don't really care that they killed Taurrests.
Speaker 2: He's the one that was expendable, so that was good. Like,
Speaker 2: as long as the shield made and the and the
Speaker 2: ninja are okay, I'm good with Torres.
Speaker 3: That was a cheat though.
Speaker 4: He should have died because what they do that stupid
Speaker 4: thing where he's inside of the belly of the beast
Speaker 4: and he's struggling trying to get out. I wish they
Speaker 4: had just done away with them and that would have
Speaker 4: been it. They need somebody to take off in the ship.
Speaker 2: But still, see that's the problem, and this is Tracktenberg's problem.
Speaker 2: He wanted to do best in show because he realized
Speaker 2: that we love these people and now we're going to
Speaker 2: feel really bad if any of them died. But then
Speaker 2: he loved the characters too much, so he couldn't kill them. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So what ends up happening, though, is that he they
Speaker 4: all take their lumps. I think the sword the Schernobi
Speaker 4: gets it the worst. I think he is bitten or
Speaker 4: stabbed or I don't remember exactly. But they escape on
Speaker 4: the ship. They steal the ship. Torres pilots a ship out,
Speaker 4: but the Shield Maiden has been left behind and she's
Speaker 4: held by the other predators.
Speaker 3: And that's when the leader.
Speaker 4: Of this whole enterprise, this amphitheater, essentially Declare's hunting season
Speaker 4: has begun.
Speaker 2: First of all, they put her back in cryo sleep,
Speaker 2: which look they easily could have said you're a failure
Speaker 2: and stabbed her. And then that was the end. So
Speaker 2: at least they recognized that she has some value as
Speaker 2: a fighter and a killer of killers potentially. But then,
Speaker 2: like you said, here's the thing, all of the problems
Speaker 2: I had with this movie, and I did have some,
Speaker 2: and I did not like portions of this movie were
Speaker 2: completely papered over. When the Predator king goes, let's go hunting,
Speaker 2: and then an innumerable number of ships took off and
Speaker 2: in pursuit of Torres and the Ninja boy.
Speaker 4: It's absurd the number of ships. There's absolutely unless there's
Speaker 4: maybe he has a sequel in mind at some point
Speaker 4: there's no way.
Speaker 3: That they could have gotten away where you think.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, you're right that the Shield
Speaker 4: Maiden is spared. But it's still a living nightmare because
Speaker 4: all she's ever going to wake up to is another
Speaker 4: opportunity to fight for her life. But what we do
Speaker 4: have the kind of lasting image from this, and this
Speaker 4: was something that was revised after release, is we see
Speaker 4: her getting pushed in this cryo stasis.
Speaker 2: Boxer of the Lost Dark. We mentioned that during Prey
Speaker 2: it's Raiders in the Lost Dark. At the end here
Speaker 2: it's the fucking warehouse with all of the artifacts it
Speaker 2: is there.
Speaker 4: There's hundreds, if not thousands of cryo tubes in this warehouse,
Speaker 4: and we.
Speaker 2: Get to tear into one as we pass if there's
Speaker 2: the silhouette of something with four arms that looks.
Speaker 4: Formidable, which I think, as a side note, I what
Speaker 4: I'm hoping we get eventually. I know it's important to
Speaker 4: have a human protagonist because that's what we identify with
Speaker 4: as humans, but I do want to see more extraterrestrial
Speaker 4: aspects to add it, because it's not just that they're
Speaker 4: hunting Earth. They're they're hunting grounds are probably like innumerable
Speaker 4: there's probably weird planets with that forearmed creature that you describe.
Speaker 4: I want to see some more of that. I want
Speaker 4: to get Let's widen it out from Earth and let's
Speaker 4: see some more interesting Maybe we'll get that a little
Speaker 4: bit in bad lance.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: I think we're probably gonna get a whole lot of
Speaker 2: beasts and other predators and humans. But I like where
Speaker 2: you're going because I would like to see another humanoid race.
Speaker 2: Who else have they encountered that have fucked them up?
Speaker 4: Yeah, clearly the humans cannot be the killer of killers.
Speaker 4: There's got to be some weird alien race that is
Speaker 4: even more formidable than humans.
Speaker 3: I have to believe that.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so they're wheeling the Shield Maiden back to
Speaker 4: her spot in the warehouse, and as they're passing, who
Speaker 4: do we see?
Speaker 3: We see Nadu.
Speaker 4: She is and that makes me sad for a Naturu
Speaker 4: because she was such she fought through so much, and
Speaker 4: pray the idea that she's just been boxed up and
Speaker 4: kept in storage to fight.
Speaker 2: This is the next day and Daniel finds out that
Speaker 2: Ali has broken up with him for some dude, and
Speaker 2: his car is trashed and everything sucks again. That's how
Speaker 2: you begin Karate Kid too. Fuck you. We fought so
Speaker 2: hard from that.
Speaker 3: Ending it is, But I like where you're going with this.
Speaker 2: This is we've watched these rebels fucking fight and lose
Speaker 2: and fight more and defeat an empire. And here's the
Speaker 2: empire again.
Speaker 3: What what did they fight for?
Speaker 4: Crumples up that previous plot of the Karate Kid and
Speaker 4: just says, oh, you know what.
Speaker 3: Fuck you.
Speaker 4: So that's how it originally ended, but then they put
Speaker 4: out I think, I don't know if they called it
Speaker 4: like a special ending or what, but for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: they amended that ending later. So not only do we
Speaker 4: get to see Nadu, but then the camera pans over
Speaker 4: again and it's Danny Glover from Predator two h.
Speaker 2: And A double R I G A and Mike Harrigan harrogon.
Speaker 4: But then, but the thing that really got me excited
Speaker 4: was right next to.
Speaker 2: Mike Harrigan, No no, no, no is Dutch and they.
Speaker 4: Give you that little musical cue from the first Predator.
Speaker 4: It's Arnold Schwartzenegger from the original. So what this effectively
Speaker 4: does is if they decide to make another animated picture
Speaker 4: in this world, we might actually get to see Dutch
Speaker 4: fighting alongside Nadu and Harrigan, and that is pretty fucking badass.
Speaker 2: It's so fucking cool. I can't even they're around. You
Speaker 2: start recording their voices. I hope they've done it secretly.
Speaker 2: I hope there's a fucking Predator Killer of Killer sequel
Speaker 2: on the way and it's Dutch and Harrigan and nah
Speaker 2: Roup fucking shit up everywhere. Throw Ripley in there.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: How about the Flash Batman. He can show up to
Speaker 2: and fight some predators. He's done it before.
Speaker 4: So that was it almost redeemed the last couple of
Speaker 4: the vignettes in this anthology. I just the prospect of
Speaker 4: having those characters come back, because you'll never ever get
Speaker 4: Danny Glover and Schwarzenegger in a live action sense. That
Speaker 4: ship is sailed. But this gives them the license and
Speaker 4: the ability to bring them back.
Speaker 3: You don't even need.
Speaker 4: Honestly, you don't even really need Schwarzenegger to do it,
Speaker 4: because I will tell you this, like the Mortal Kombat,
Speaker 4: the last few Mortal Kombat games, they've added in Schwarzenegger
Speaker 4: characters as bonus characters, so you can fight Mortal Kombat
Speaker 4: as the T eight hundred you can fight Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 4: I think Dutch is in there. I think Kakonan is
Speaker 4: in there.
Speaker 2: Whoever they got ricks John Michritz, that would be cool
Speaker 2: listening to a pisshants just try and tough. They make
Speaker 2: me laugh if Matrix was here.
Speaker 4: No, the My point is that it's not Schwarzenegger delivering
Speaker 4: the lines in this Mortal Kombat game. But whoever they
Speaker 4: got to do it sounds like Schwarzenegger to me, So
Speaker 4: what the hell? He can have just somebody else through
Speaker 4: his lines because he doesn't really seem to have much interest.
Speaker 2: To go back to the point, your cousin Ivan could
Speaker 2: do an Arnold Swarzenender impression that could probably past come
Speaker 2: on now.
Speaker 3: That would be so cool.
Speaker 4: Imagine if these characters from these different movies got together.
Speaker 4: That would actually we wouldn't be talking about a Hulu
Speaker 4: only surprised thing. This would be a an actual theatrical
Speaker 4: because why wouldn't you have that in the theater.
Speaker 3: That sounds so.
Speaker 2: Bad ass, It sounds bad lands.
Speaker 3: Sounds awesome.
Speaker 2: And that's where we're headed next. Oh my god, HP,
Speaker 2: we've reached the end of a fest. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: next week you're gonna be hearing us talking about Predator
Speaker 2: bad Lands. That's what's happening. Whoo oh boy, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be such a good time. Hopefully it's a good movie,
Speaker 2: because man, oh man, we've been fucking playing it up
Speaker 2: and talking it up, and oh wouldn't it be terrible?
Speaker 2: If it's terrible, Well.
Speaker 3: Give something to talk about.
Speaker 2: I'll be suppressed.
Speaker 4: I don't think anything can happen. Look, our favorite filmmakers
Speaker 4: have disappointed us in the past. I all signs point
Speaker 4: to yes on this one.
Speaker 2: Fall alone, like the Magic eight ball HP. Where you are?
Speaker 2: Where can people find if they're looking for you? These days?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: I co host the Night Mister Walters Taxi podcast, alongside
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Speaker 2: at midnight viewing. That was another great thing about it,
Speaker 2: all the subtitles. Anyway, we'll talk to you next time.
Speaker 1: You can kill it. What hell