Speaker 1: Ivish. That next morning, something came into camp, but this
Speaker 1: had a totally different feel, and we could actually see
Speaker 1: the shadows on the tent. It was huge, and we
Speaker 1: could make out the shoulders and head. And another one
Speaker 1: came up to the left side of it, and it
Speaker 1: was coming up from the front of our tent where
Speaker 1: the fire was out there, and I pushed on Sandy's
Speaker 1: colot with my foot when she looked over, and I
Speaker 1: went and she looked up and she could see the shadows.
Speaker 1: She pushed on Barber's tent did the same thing, so
Speaker 1: they all saw that. You could hear the footfall. And
Speaker 1: I had my recorder going out in the back left
Speaker 1: corner of my tent, and Barbara had hers out in
Speaker 1: the front. So anyway they walk around, you could hear
Speaker 1: them moving. They weren't running around throwing crap at us
Speaker 1: like the look we think juveniles, you know. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it was just a totally different feel. And I've never
Speaker 1: ever been scared or felt any kind of fear until then,
Speaker 1: you know. And so anyway about well, it was six
Speaker 1: twenty nine, because I keep my phone under my palace
Speaker 1: so I can see what time it is, six twenty nine,
Speaker 1: from the back left corner from my audio recorder. Kids,
Speaker 1: it was this high pitched female sounding scream and it
Speaker 1: was real shrill, and then it ended in like a whoop.
Speaker 1: And then ten seconds later another one from it was
Speaker 1: the same being that did it, I'm sure because it
Speaker 1: was the exact same scream, exact same area, same thing,
Speaker 1: and we were like, that's the Medusa scream. That guy
Speaker 1: was legit. He we understood now what he was talking about.
Speaker 1: But it was bigfoot, I'm sure. So the next night,
Speaker 1: same exact stuff. Those juveniles they're back, you know, a
Speaker 1: little less activity, you know, But and then that next morning,
Speaker 1: same about the same time, they coming to camp again.
Speaker 1: It did it three nights in a row. The fourth
Speaker 1: night it was raining and it was a lot less activity,
Speaker 1: but we still had them coming into camp. But on
Speaker 1: that second night, if you went on past where that
Speaker 1: guy had been camping, you go another several miles down
Speaker 1: and the road ends and there's a campground and there
Speaker 1: were some bear hunters down there, and we had talked
Speaker 1: to them every day we'd go down there because we
Speaker 1: wanted to keep up with who was where, you know,
Speaker 1: And so the second night, way off in that direction,
Speaker 1: where the bear hunters were. We heard four gun shots
Speaker 1: and I said, well, they're either drinking and getting rowdy.
Speaker 1: Are theyre having something going on in camp? And then
Speaker 1: just a few not even a minute or so later,
Speaker 1: we heard two more gun shots, and then within a
Speaker 1: minute or so we heard that Medusa screen from that
Speaker 1: area over there, and I'm like, oh, yeah, they're having
Speaker 1: activity and that's what they're shooting at. And so we
Speaker 1: were excited. And then the third night, somewhere between them
Speaker 1: and us, we heard the Medusa scream again, and so
Speaker 1: we're like, that poor young guy must have been scared
Speaker 1: out of his mind. And but anyway, that was that
Speaker 1: was really cool because we thought he was on drugs
Speaker 1: or something talking about sounded like a killer carry sword
Speaker 1: around with it. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. When you say
Speaker 1: Medusa's scream, you call my sister that really, I know,
Speaker 1: That's what I was like. We even talked about it
Speaker 1: after he left, you know, before we went down there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what was he talking about Medusa's scream? It
Speaker 1: just didn't make sense. But then we were like, okay,
Speaker 1: because it did. It was so high pitched, you know
Speaker 1: how you hear on movies pterodactyls and stuff. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what it was reminiscent of. But I got excited because
Speaker 1: my recorder was right in that corner where that screen
Speaker 1: was coming from. And Barbara went ahead that next morning
Speaker 1: and got hers and played it back, and it picked
Speaker 1: it up good on hers and hers was in front,
Speaker 1: so when Shelley listens to it, she ought to hear
Speaker 1: something good on that. Well, it was really high pitched,
Speaker 1: and all three of us we all said it sounded female,
Speaker 1: but we just had a feeling that it was like
Speaker 1: a like an alpha female. I think she was finally
Speaker 1: like saying, this is it? Leave this? Yeah, So it was.
Speaker 1: It was pretty interesting, saying let's go out. That's fascinating.
Speaker 1: I'd never heard that scream like that before. And if
Speaker 1: it hadn't had the whoop on the end, I would
Speaker 1: have said, don't know what the heck that was, But
Speaker 1: it had a whoop on the end. Well, I've heard
Speaker 1: other stuff, but not sound like that.
Speaker 2: Tell them about your daddy and y'all's experience down there.
Speaker 1: Well, where I grew up, I was. I lived in Malta, Texas.
Speaker 1: We only had just a few hundred people in the
Speaker 1: little community. The school went to eighth grade, and I
Speaker 1: was valedictorian in my eighth grade class. And I normally
Speaker 1: don't tell people, but there was only three of us.
Speaker 1: We had like two grades in each classroom, you know,
Speaker 1: So fifth and six were together, seventh and eighth were together.
Speaker 1: And once you got out eighth grade, you had to
Speaker 1: go to high school in either New Boston, which was
Speaker 1: seven miles in one direction, or in DCAB, which was
Speaker 1: seven miles in the opposite direction. And I ended up
Speaker 1: I ended up going to both, you know, And so
Speaker 1: because Decap was just more down to earth, I think.
Speaker 1: And anyway, so where this place was located though, was
Speaker 1: only probably about thirty forty miles from Falk, Arkansas, which
Speaker 1: is legendary in the Bigfoot community, you know, because of
Speaker 1: the legend of Boggy Creek, and a lot of my
Speaker 1: cousins lived up in Texa, Cana in that area, and
Speaker 1: some of my cousins lived in falc and uh like I,
Speaker 1: you know, my Mama and Daddy had adopted me when
Speaker 1: they were forty one, and so I already had two
Speaker 1: brothers that were twenty some odd years older than me.
Speaker 1: So all my first cousins were in their you know, twenties,
Speaker 1: and so I grew up with my second cousins, and
Speaker 1: I grew up playing with my second cousins in those
Speaker 1: woods in Foulk, Arkansas. But back then, when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, we didn't know that Bigfoot even existed. We
Speaker 1: didn't know what a bigfoot was, you know, and I
Speaker 1: didn't even really know about it until I was in
Speaker 1: my early twenties or so. But what we called that
Speaker 1: creature in fout, Arkansas was the fount monster. That's that's
Speaker 1: all we ever heard, was a fount monster, you know.
Speaker 1: My mama and daddy and everybody would say, oh, honey,
Speaker 1: it's not real, you know. But then the Legend of
Speaker 1: Boggy Creek movie came out and we went to see it,
Speaker 1: and she really had to tell me that because it said,
Speaker 1: you know, based on true events. And I went with
Speaker 1: my cousins and we were all looking at our parents
Speaker 1: like what, and they were saying, no, honey, that's just
Speaker 1: a movie. They just do that to make it more exciting,
Speaker 1: and so we were like, okay. You know. Anyway, when
Speaker 1: I was about fourteen years old, it was Christmas time
Speaker 1: and my mama was sick. She had cancer and so
Speaker 1: she was in the bed in the front room of
Speaker 1: our house, and my daddy and I were on the
Speaker 1: front porch hanging Christmas lights and they were blue Christmas lights,
Speaker 1: and so it didn't light up very much, you know,
Speaker 1: and we had the front porch light off because we
Speaker 1: could see better where we were putting them in space
Speaker 1: and the Christmas lights out. We had a long house,
Speaker 1: it was almost like, you know, a long shotgun type house.
Speaker 1: On the left hand side of the porch was the
Speaker 1: car port, then on the right it was just you know,
Speaker 1: we had woods all the way around and a pond
Speaker 1: back behind us and a dirt road in front of us.
Speaker 1: It was so dark out there, and we were on
Speaker 1: the right hand side of the house, opposite from the
Speaker 1: car port. And when we were hanging the Christmas lights,
Speaker 1: coming from the left hand further on down, you know,
Speaker 1: away from us, sounded like it was coming from on
Speaker 1: the other side of where my Mamma's house used to be.
Speaker 1: Next door, we heard just this. It was gosh, it
Speaker 1: was so scary. It was like a moan, a roar,
Speaker 1: and a growl altogether. And I had never heard anything
Speaker 1: like that before. And it was so loud, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just and it scared to crap out of me.
Speaker 1: And I looked at my daddy and I was like,
Speaker 1: what was that, Daddy, and he was He just paused
Speaker 1: for a second and he said, I don't know what
Speaker 1: that was, but let's just hurry up and finish this. Well,
Speaker 1: my daddy, like I said, he was forty one when
Speaker 1: he adopted me, and that was back in sixty six
Speaker 1: when I was born. So my daddy had been in
Speaker 1: three wars, Vietnam, World War two, and Korea, and he
Speaker 1: never was scared of anything. But I could just tell that,
Speaker 1: you know, he stopped and looked in that direction, but
Speaker 1: he's like, let's go ahead and finish this. And so
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let's let's go in because I've
Speaker 1: never heard anything like that before. And he was like, no,
Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and finish this. And so we're
Speaker 1: trying to get it up, and thank goodness, it was
Speaker 1: not a very long porch. But as we're working our
Speaker 1: way to the left, you know, we get to about
Speaker 1: the center and we hear it again, but this time
Speaker 1: it's closer up and he says, go in the house
Speaker 1: and get my gun, and I said, I'm not leaving
Speaker 1: you out here, and I said, please, come on, let's
Speaker 1: go in the house. He goes, no, just hurry up,
Speaker 1: go in the house and get my gun. I said, no, Daddy.
Speaker 1: I was about starting to cry, you know, I said,
Speaker 1: let's go in the house please. And about that time,
Speaker 1: from the carport area, we heard it again, and this
Speaker 1: time I've just busted out in tears, and he's pushing
Speaker 1: me in the house and he just pushes right on
Speaker 1: by me. Well, my mama was, you know, right there
Speaker 1: and that first room in the bed, and she sees me,
Speaker 1: you know, crying, and he's running through the house going
Speaker 1: to go find his gun, and he's coming back out
Speaker 1: and she's like, what's going on. And I'm like, there's
Speaker 1: a monster outside of his war, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make the sound for. And I'm worried because
Speaker 1: Daddy now is just going out there. And so I
Speaker 1: go into my room, which was on the opposite side
Speaker 1: from where my mama was and on the side that
Speaker 1: the carport was on, and I'm looking out the windows,
Speaker 1: following him around the house to make sure nothing got him.
Speaker 1: And he comes back in there and he's like, there's
Speaker 1: there's nothing out there, I don't see anything at all,
Speaker 1: and he had a flashflight, you know, and had his
Speaker 1: gun and all that, and I'm still just shaking, you know,
Speaker 1: and Mama's scared now. So he tells me, he said,
Speaker 1: go in there and call your ain't Overly. Now. My
Speaker 1: Ain't Overly was my Mama's sister, and they had all
Speaker 1: grown up in that area, and Ain't Overly was already
Speaker 1: in her probably sixties at this time, so she had
Speaker 1: lived there forever and ever. And so I'm in there
Speaker 1: or what we've just heard roaring and growling and moaning
Speaker 1: on the phone by trying to make this sound, and
Speaker 1: she said, oh, honey, that's probably just Miss clay Shilti's
Speaker 1: bulls across the street from us, you know. And Miss
Speaker 1: clay Shiltie was an older, elderly woman lived there by herself,
Speaker 1: and she did she had, you know, her husband, whod
Speaker 1: passed away, but she still had the bulls and the
Speaker 1: cows and the chickens and all that. There was a
Speaker 1: water tower over in the right side of her pasture
Speaker 1: and everything. And I'm telling you, we were in the
Speaker 1: country anyway. So that made me feel better, made my
Speaker 1: mama and daddy feel better, and so we slept okay. Well,
Speaker 1: the next day, Miss clay Shilty was at our house
Speaker 1: because she would come and give Mama her shots for
Speaker 1: pain relief, and so she was up there in the
Speaker 1: front room. My daddy was in there and he calls
Speaker 1: me and to ask me come up. You know, I
Speaker 1: was in the back of the house where the liver
Speaker 1: room was at, and he said, did we come up
Speaker 1: here and make that sound? But we heard last night
Speaker 1: from Miss clay Shilty and she's just sitting there, you know,
Speaker 1: rocking the rocket chair. And so he had already told
Speaker 1: her the story. And so I'm up there roaring and
Speaker 1: moaning and growling, and she's like, oh, mister Bob, I
Speaker 1: wish she hadn't told me that. And he said, no,
Speaker 1: he it's okay, because overly told me that it was
Speaker 1: probably alls bulls or something. And she said, oh, no, no,
Speaker 1: mister Bob, I don't have any of my cows. Are
Speaker 1: my bulls over there right now? They're all up in
Speaker 1: decab and I don't remember what was having done. I
Speaker 1: can't remember exactly. It's like they were being bred or something.
Speaker 1: But anyway, she said, there's none of my bulls or
Speaker 1: cows are over there right now, and she says, as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, something's been stealing my chickens. Of course,
Speaker 1: we didn't know anything about anything at that time. We
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about Bigfoot. Looking back, I remember I
Speaker 1: was Daddy's girl, you know, and anywhere Daddy went, I went.
Speaker 1: I helped him with everything. He had killed apolsum one
Speaker 1: time that was up around the house and we didn't
Speaker 1: it was late in the evening, so we didn't have
Speaker 1: time to bury it, and so he said, well, let's
Speaker 1: just go around back. We'll put it in the trash can.
Speaker 1: We had, you know, a metal trash can, and so
Speaker 1: he said, we'll put it in the trash can. We'll
Speaker 1: come back out in the morning, we'll bury it. And
Speaker 1: so he put the lid on it, and he put
Speaker 1: a big old rock on top of the lid so
Speaker 1: nothing would get into it and get it. And so
Speaker 1: the next day he called me and he said, come on,
Speaker 1: let's go out and bury the possum. And we go
Speaker 1: out the back door, and you know, the trash can
Speaker 1: is still sitting there with the lid and the rock
Speaker 1: and everything. So he takes the rock off, takes the
Speaker 1: lid off, he said, looked at me, what'd you do?
Speaker 1: I said, we told about He said, the possum's gone
Speaker 1: and I said, day, I didn't get that possum. I
Speaker 1: didn't do anything with that possum. He said, you serious,
Speaker 1: and I said no. And you know, we had no
Speaker 1: clue what had happened, but that lid was still on it,
Speaker 1: and that rock was still on that lid, but that
Speaker 1: possum was gone, so something had to have taken that heavy.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a big rock, it was, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was at least the rock was at least like
Speaker 1: a foot all the way around foot with you know,
Speaker 1: foot wide, foot high. It was a heavy rock. That
Speaker 1: was interesting. So now looking back, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And we would hear all sorts of stuff. We'd hear
Speaker 1: high pitched screams. When we first moved there, I was
Speaker 1: a lot younger, but there was a railroad track on
Speaker 1: the other side of that water tower, and we used
Speaker 1: to hear screams and it sounded like a woman's screaming.
Speaker 1: And so, of course Ain't Over we lived there, and
Speaker 1: we'd always call ain't ovally anytime we didn't know what
Speaker 1: was going on, and she said, no, we thought it
Speaker 1: was a little lady that lived in that little pothouse
Speaker 1: by the water tower getting beat up or something. And
Speaker 1: she's like, oh no, no, that's that black panther that
Speaker 1: walks up and down the railroad tracks. And so that's
Speaker 1: just what I always thought, you know, that was. And
Speaker 1: it may have been a panther for all I know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there was lots of strange things wow going
Speaker 1: on around there, and.
Speaker 2: That wasn't really the catalyst that got you interested. You
Speaker 2: just reflect back on math and you you put those.
Speaker 1: Things together, right right, Yeah, I mean because.
Speaker 2: I just love that. I don't it's not the craziest
Speaker 2: story in the world. That's not the most action pack.
Speaker 2: But she told me that story, like what three years ago?
Speaker 2: Would you ever retail that on camera? And she goes,
Speaker 2: and I haven't really seen her much or I had
Speaker 2: an opportunity.
Speaker 1: To do it since it's just so cool, you know,
Speaker 1: looking back. And I remember too, I dated a guy
Speaker 1: from Forem in Arkansas and I was but I've always
Speaker 1: been interested in like the Fount Monster. I just didn't
Speaker 1: know what it was. You know. We knew that there
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a monster, and some people called
Speaker 1: him the Boogeyman. My mama would always you know, when
Speaker 1: she said, will you be careful going out there? You know,
Speaker 1: the boogieman will get you. We just thought that was
Speaker 1: the saying back then. But the Fount Monster. Once we
Speaker 1: started hearing about the Fount Monster and stuff, and then
Speaker 1: the movie was made about Boggy Creek, we thought, okay,
Speaker 1: even though Mama and Daddy is telling us, it's not real.
Speaker 1: When you start having people in the area talking about it,
Speaker 1: you know, you listen to that stuff. A guy I
Speaker 1: dated was from Foreman, Arkansas, and he had said that
Speaker 1: him and his daddy would go hunting and Foreman and
Speaker 1: that's not too far from foulc either, you know. He
Speaker 1: said that he remembers one time that they were they
Speaker 1: were coming out of the woods. They had parked alongside
Speaker 1: of the road and there was a big pasture out there,
Speaker 1: and then the pasture was lined with trees and stuff.
Speaker 1: And he said that we're sitting in the front yard
Speaker 1: of my house in the car talking about this. And
Speaker 1: because I had told him about what I had heard,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, a couple of years earlier, because
Speaker 1: I was dating him when I was sixteen and he
Speaker 1: was seventeen, and so we're talking about stuff, and I
Speaker 1: was telling him about what I had heard when I
Speaker 1: was fourteen everything, and so he starts telling me this,
Speaker 1: and he said, well, you know, we were loading up
Speaker 1: the truck, putting our guns and stuff in there, and
Speaker 1: my daddy was kept staring across the pasture and he
Speaker 1: goes and I looked over there, and I said, he said,
Speaker 1: what are you looking at? And he goes, do you
Speaker 1: see that that creature? And he said there was an
Speaker 1: upright creature walking along the tree line on the backside
Speaker 1: of the pasture and it just went into the woods.
Speaker 1: And I remember but while he was telling me that,
Speaker 1: I was like, do you think you could have been
Speaker 1: a fout monster? And he slung his car door up
Speaker 1: and a way like he was being pulled out of
Speaker 1: the car, and I screamed, bloody Murdier. And my daddy
Speaker 1: came out on the front porch to see what was
Speaker 1: going on. But what's funny is we're Facebook friends on
Speaker 1: you know now on Facebook. And he had been living
Speaker 1: in North Carolina and him and his family were going
Speaker 1: to move back to Arkansas, but they found a cattle
Speaker 1: farm in Oklahoma, so they're living in Oklahoma now, and
Speaker 1: I'll post stuff on my Facebook sometimes my personal Facebook
Speaker 1: about Bigfoot and then I share the show and stuff,
Speaker 1: and then I'll delete it after I've shared it and stuff.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so he was seeing Bigfoot stuff and so
Speaker 1: he messaged me after he moved to uh, Oklahoma and
Speaker 1: where he's living now is not far from where we
Speaker 1: recorded the gibberish what we call tribulation Babe. So he
Speaker 1: started asking me questions, well, does bigfood do this? And
Speaker 1: do they do that? And do they do this? And
Speaker 1: so I'm finally I said, why are you asking me
Speaker 1: all this stuff? And he said, well, my daughter's dating
Speaker 1: a guy. And he said that he's been hearing some
Speaker 1: weird stuff and he's describing all this stuff. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: that sounds really interested Todd. And he goes, well, do
Speaker 1: you think it could be Bigfoot? And I said, I
Speaker 1: think it could. I don't know if it is, but
Speaker 1: I think it could. And I said, I said where
Speaker 1: does where does he live? And he was telling me
Speaker 1: and so I'm pulling up Google maps. He said he
Speaker 1: lives just like three miles from me, and so he's
Speaker 1: telling me where he lives. I said, can you just
Speaker 1: send me a pen. You know, on Google Maps, it
Speaker 1: was like five miles from Tribulation Bay, who recorded. And
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, I said, you don't want
Speaker 1: to hear what I'm fising to tell you. And he's
Speaker 1: like what, And I said, your house is real close
Speaker 1: to this. He's like yeah, And I said, let me
Speaker 1: send you a link, and so I sent him the
Speaker 1: link that carry Arnold did on Sisters of the Moon
Speaker 1: where we're talking about all that. I said, I said,
Speaker 1: you're going to hear a story where we recorded gibberish
Speaker 1: and had a lot of activity. I said, that's about
Speaker 1: five miles from your sparre and he was like yeah.
Speaker 1: So now he's all the time sending me stuff. But
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool.