WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:00.720 The projection. 2 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.960 Both podcast is sponsored by Scarecrow Video. Try out scarecrows 3 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:06.639 rent by mail service. Choose from over one hundred and 4 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:08.960 fifty thousand films and get Blu rays, four k's and 5 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:13.519 DVDs delivered directly to your door. Visit scarecrow dot com today. 6 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:21.879 Oh g is, folks, it's showtime. 7 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:24.640 People say good money to see this movie. 8 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:26.079 When they go out to a theater. 9 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:30.079 They want clothed sodas, hot popcorn, and no monsters in 10 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:31.120 the projection booth. 11 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:33.119 Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring. 12 00:00:53.799 --> 00:01:02.079 He's been called whooped, freaky, absurd, and just plain discus. Now, 13 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.640 for his first starring role ever, they're letting Tom Green 14 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:08.280 do it. 15 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:12.680 He's way bye, my daddy, I'm going to get some job. 16 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:15.719 So he's mighty God. 17 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:17.319 The characters are laying I'm a loser. 18 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:30.400 I wish I was dead for acting, building sets, directed 19 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:34.760 and produce him. 20 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:35.519 Money's no option. 21 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:38.000 The helicopter one hundred fifty thousan dollars one hundred dollars. 22 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:39.519 Then you have the seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 23 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:41.760 That's all my money with his own, How are you? 24 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:43.959 I'd be a lot better if you'd smack my legs 25 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:44.879 with this bamboostick. 26 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:56.000 Special to Freddy Got Fingered, Jeez Louise, say it, jesuis 27 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:56.719 Jeez Louise. 28 00:01:59.079 --> 00:01:59.799 Jeez Louis. 29 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:04.959 Yes, said shooting now in Theaters two thousand and one. 30 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:06.760 No, I just like to say, jays Louise, that's a 31 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:10.120 that's all. I just like to say, Gez Louise, that's 32 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:15.280 all okay, So I just like to say g's Louise. 33 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:22.240 Welcome to the Projection Booth. I'm your host, Mike White, 34 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:24.439 Jimmy once again, is mister Rob Saint Mary. 35 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:26.719 I'm not just moving to Hollywood to work in a 36 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:28.639 cheese sandwich factory. 37 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:32.879 Also back in the booth is Miss Heather drain Daddy. 38 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:34.080 Would you like some sausage? 39 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:35.000 Teddy? 40 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:36.479 Would you like some sausages? 41 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:38.199 Somebody? 42 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:42.199 Month concludes with a look at Tom Green's anti comedy 43 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.080 Freddy Got Fingered, released in two thousand and one. This 44 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:48.960 was a World before nine to eleven. This was April twenty, 45 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:52.599 two thousand and one. The film stars Green as Gord Brodie, 46 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:55.599 an artist who wants to get his drawings turned into 47 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:57.919 a show. He adds to Hollywood, where he gets a 48 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:00.120 job making delicious cheese sandwich. 49 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:02.599 I just thought people might be getting a little hungry. 50 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:12.159 It's a delicious cheese sandwich. A delicious cheese sandwich. Isn't 51 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:17.080 that delicious? Isn't that a delicious cheese sandwich? 52 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:21.080 Has a disastrous pitch meeting and goes back to live 53 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.680 with his parents. We will be spoiling this film as 54 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:27.000 we discuss it, so if you don't want anything ruined, 55 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:29.759 please turn off the show and watch the movie. We 56 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:32.159 will still be here when you get back. So, Rob, 57 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:35.120 when was the first time you saw Freddy got fingered? 58 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:36.479 And what did you think. 59 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:40.639 When Tom Green was big in the late nineties early aunts, 60 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:43.240 I didn't have cable, so I grew up in a 61 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:45.199 house without cable. As a matter of fact, the first 62 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:46.759 thing that my mother did when I moved out of 63 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.360 the house was get three things for that house that 64 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:54.159 I wanted as a kid, a dog, air conditioning, and cable. 65 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:56.159 It was like as soon as I moved out, and 66 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.439 I was like, okay, I see how it is. I 67 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:01.919 didn't get the LeBaron, but my mom got that stuff. 68 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:05.599 So anyway, this must have been I think maybe two 69 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:10.719 years ago. The Criterion had a section on the movies 70 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:17.600 produced by MTV Films, so that included Jackass, but also Artier, 71 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:22.759 fair like Election, and of course this one is in there. 72 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:24.680 And I thought, you know what, if it's good enough 73 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:28.680 for Criterion, maybe I should watch it because I had 74 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:34.319 seen the trailer, I had heard the awful a Cisco 75 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:36.839 and Ebert did the review. 76 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:41.120 It's a vomitatorium of a movie starring Green as gored 77 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:44.040 and I'm notxious retard who makes it his life's work 78 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:47.120 to freak out his dad play with teeth gnashing scorn 79 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:49.720 by rip porn on TV. We can't show you the 80 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:52.480 scene where Green swings a newborn baby around his head 81 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:56.120 by its umbilical cord, or two scenes evolving the sexual 82 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:59.040 organs of a stallion an a bull elephant, or when 83 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:02.399 he skins a deer around wearing his bloody carcass, or 84 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.120 any of the jokes about child abuse. The MPAA gave 85 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.439 this movie an R rating. That's definitive evidence that the 86 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.920 NPA ratings board is morally a drift and that we 87 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:15.319 need a workable adult rating for movies like this. 88 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.639 You're absolutely right, this is ground zero. It has to 89 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:21.279 be ground zero of bad comedies. And Tom Green with 90 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:23.720 this horse and with this elephant. If a woman was 91 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:26.639 doing that, this movie'd be banned in Tijuana, let alone 92 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:30.120 getting an R rating. And it's just so horrible and 93 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.879 he's such an unfunny guy. He should be Flippenberger somewhere. 94 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:34.639 Why is Tom Green getting movies? 95 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:35.759 And who wants to. 96 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:36.480 See this guy? 97 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:38.879 You know, even in a stupid comedy, there has to 98 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:40.639 be a setup before you have a punchline. This is 99 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:42.439 just hey, let's just do a bunch of punchlines, and 100 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:44.600 the punchlines are let's do gross out stuff. 101 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:48.879 Roger Ebert just loved this one, and so I was like, Eh, 102 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:51.759 really have a way in because I wasn't really a 103 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:55.240 fan of him. So I watched it and I was like, 104 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:01.319 oh my god, this is brilliant and horrible at the 105 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:03.560 same time. As I wrote on my letterbox, I go, 106 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:09.639 this is absurdist and surrealist, and it fits right in 107 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:11.920 the context of everything else that was going on at 108 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:13.680 that time, because if you remember in the late nineties 109 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.560 early two thousands, there was all of the gross out comedies, 110 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:18.879 and a lot of the gross out comedies also had 111 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:23.120 like sentimentality about family, and it was like he took 112 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:27.360 all of that and just amped it and satirized it 113 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.759 at the same time. So I just was like, I 114 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:32.519 don't know if you can sit down and watch this 115 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:35.519 like you would watch anything in particular, but if you 116 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:38.399 look at it as like a piece of art that 117 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:43.600 you can dissect as a satire piece, I think it's 118 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.279 I think it's brilliant. There's sections of it that do 119 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.240 make me laugh really fucking hard. I can see that 120 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:55.199 people would enjoy this probably under substance as well. It 121 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:57.399 feels like in a lot of ways. When I was 122 00:06:57.439 --> 00:06:59.120 on it was one of the first episodes I was 123 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.720 on with you. I used to talk about how Bloodsucking 124 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:04.319 Freaks has all of these layers of meaning and symbolism, 125 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:06.680 and I'm like, did Joel m Reid seek to do that? 126 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:09.759 I'm like, I don't think so. And there's part of 127 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:12.439 me that I just think Tom Green was being Tom 128 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.040 Green and at the same time there is all of 129 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:17.560 that in here, and Heather, how about yourself? 130 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:22.279 That that was beautiful. By the way I entered this film, 131 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:24.079 I saw it. I didn't get to see it in 132 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:25.720 the theater, but I remember renting it. 133 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:28.560 I entered it as a Tom Green fan. I loved 134 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:29.480 his show on MTV. 135 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:33.399 I was even a fan of the bum song Freebody 136 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:37.279 remembers that. In fact, I still occasionally have been noticing 137 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:41.240 it because yeah, my bum my bum is on the gump, 138 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:43.959 like it's just Tom Green. For me, it's always been 139 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.240 like that great mix of humor that is really, on 140 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:51.680 one hand, completely super like you cannot it's not intellectual. 141 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:55.360 It is honestly going to just immediately just hit a 142 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:57.839 lot of people the wrong way. But there's always he's 143 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:02.000 always doing just like the sense of completely what you said, absurdism. 144 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:03.519 It was almost like data. 145 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:08.160 Just just just the craziness of it, of some of 146 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:10.639 the stuff that he would do on a show and 147 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:13.240 just legit funny. Just I found a lot. I just 148 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.519 find him like incredibly funny. So I was excited about 149 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.639 the movie despite the horrible trailer. 150 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:21.680 This was a bad era for how. 151 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:23.639 Trailers were edited. I'm not a fan of how trailers 152 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:26.079 are cut now, to be honest. If you go back 153 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:29.399 and look at the early odds and late nighties for comedies, 154 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:33.519 it is it's rough. Bubble Boy was another one, and 155 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:35.679 that was another film that was actually like a really 156 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:41.240 fun subversive comedy that got get like what it really was. 157 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:43.840 We'll go to my grave just saying that. 158 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:45.159 That's a wonderful for that. 159 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.000 There's a part of me that really wants to cover 160 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.120 that at some point in the future you should. 161 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.159 It's a really tremendously underrated film. I love Bubble Boy, 162 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.919 but it was promoted terribly and rewatching the trailer for 163 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.799 Fred you got fingered. Prepping for this, I was like, God, 164 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.720 this trailer is terrible. But by reading the movie and 165 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.759 the movie is, I wouldn't call it a masterpiece. There 166 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:13.000 are parts that I think, especially revisiting it, have fallen. 167 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:13.320 Flat for me. 168 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:18.440 The parts that make me laugh really incredibly hard, are 169 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:24.639 so unhinged, so beautifully unhinged, and such a great antidote 170 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:24.960 to that. 171 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.600 To your point, rob, to that whole can I new people. 172 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.000 I actually dated a guy that said that, Actually you 173 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.720 said accused me of not liking gross out heureor because 174 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:35.720 I didn't like me myself and Irene. 175 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.279 Keep in mind, this was already me watching Pink Flamingos 176 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:42.720 as my meditation tape in college. But I couldn't handle 177 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:46.159 the Farellis. So it's because I'm a girl. That's that's 178 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:47.000 why he's an ex. 179 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:50.159 Fair to me was like, it's like Tom Green being like, 180 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:54.159 oh you got you think that's okay, cute? Check this out, 181 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.759 and then having this amazing cast. We'll get all into 182 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.200 on that. But I really I have a huge saucewat 183 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:01.720 Rose Baby. 184 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.919 It's that perfect. Obviously, it's that for anybody. 185 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:08.000 I'm amazed that people hated it, because I'm like, if 186 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:10.080 you know who Tom Green is, why'd you even watch it? 187 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:15.039 I haven't watched the Notebook Eber even reviewing this was absurd. 188 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:18.759 It's like, why who was clamoring for Roger Ebert's opinion 189 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:21.399 on Freddy got fingered butt? 190 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:22.720 AnyWho? What about you, Mike? 191 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:26.639 Well, for me, I saw this for the first time, 192 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:31.080 it was probably DBD. It probably wasn't a VHS tape 193 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:33.960 because I think by two thousand and two and I 194 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:38.039 probably saw this, we had moved on from VHS mostly 195 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:42.080 say what you will about the formats, but and I 196 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.840 did not grow up with Tom Green. Obviously I was 197 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:49.039 aware of Tom Green. You really couldn't escape Tom Green 198 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:53.279 because he was just on MTV in so many places 199 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:54.759 doing the Pepsi commercials. 200 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:00.720 I'm on a mission. 201 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:03.799 I'm on the road to number one, going to all 202 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:06.519 the colleges, colleges. 203 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:09.039 I'm going to prove that people love the taste of pepsy. 204 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:14.759 One, new pepsi one with a new secret recipe that 205 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:17.240 makes it taste too good to be called diet. 206 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:20.120 Cactuses, all the taste of pepsy one. People love the 207 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:23.759 taste of pepsi one, new pepsi one, true cold taste, 208 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:25.399 one calorie. 209 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.600 All of these things. So I knew of him, but 210 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:31.960 I really didn't watch the show. I really didn't realize 211 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:36.159 his impact. Like I didn't realize that so much of 212 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:39.600 Jackass took from Tom Green, just this whole thing of 213 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:42.120 like him waking up his parents and stuff, Like it 214 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:45.799 feels like Bam Margera's whole stick was very Tom Green, 215 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:48.919 all this stuff with the skateboarding, all this. I mean, 216 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:51.240 it's he's a very I want to say, he's only 217 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:54.519 like a year older than I am. So it's weird 218 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:57.840 to be like contemporaries with Tom Green. He reminds me 219 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:00.960 a lot of myself before I I got on medication, 220 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:06.000 Like I could swing very wide with the pendulum of emotions, 221 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:08.759 you know, like frying jags where I couldn't catch my 222 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:13.279 breath from crying so hard. And then also manic episodes 223 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:17.200 where I kind of sounded like this with just the 224 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:22.240 intensity that he speaks. Really, the whole thing of him 225 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.279 repeating things and repeating things, I know, that's kind of 226 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:28.399 the anti comedy thing, you know. It's it's funny, it's 227 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:32.159 not funny. It's really not funny. It swings back to funny. 228 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:36.559 Isn't that a delicious cheese sandwich? 229 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:45.000 And the repetition, oh my god, a delicious cheese sandwich kind. 230 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.000 Of drives me a little crazy. Like listening to his 231 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:50.679 audio commentary for this, oh my god, that was an ordeal, 232 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:53.320 and he's kind of an ordeal for me. I really 233 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:56.480 missed the boat with him. When I watched him on 234 00:12:57.039 --> 00:13:00.919 Last One Laughing recently. I liked him there, and he 235 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:04.720 was still doing the same shtick like making people laugh 236 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:06.879 what you're not supposed to do on that show, making 237 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:11.240 people laugh by just repeating the phrase delicious cheese sandwich 238 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:16.840 over and over and over again. I didn't necessarily get 239 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:19.320 that this was supposed to be in anti comedy. I 240 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:21.960 thought he was being sincere when it came to this film. 241 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.279 I have since rewatched it recently with that in mind. 242 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:30.879 I still don't find it that funny. There are things, obviously, 243 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.559 like the sausage song. I enjoy that. I didn't realize 244 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:38.720 that taping meat to his head was kind of his thing. 245 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:40.679 That was one of his first things that he did 246 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:44.799 on his early cable access show. It's not my style 247 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:45.320 of humor. 248 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.240 The thing that's good that you sent along with this, 249 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.360 and I think we can talk about him in parallel 250 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:54.639 because I think it helps is the documentary. There's a 251 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.000 documentary that just came out like in the last year 252 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:00.039 or two that actually he directed, which I was like, 253 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:03.000 oh God, I'm like people directing their own documentaries, like 254 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:05.600 we're in trouble. But I think that he did a 255 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.840 really nice job interrogating process where it all comes from, 256 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:13.480 and that repetition of word thing and some of his 257 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.399 humor choices that has been amped up. A lot of 258 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.799 that comes from, as he said, it came from Letterman, 259 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.000 and I can't help but think of the connection between 260 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:27.559 Letterman and how Letterman does that. And then also one 261 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:30.399 of my favorites who's also been on the show is 262 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:33.879 Chris Elliot. Chris Elliot was doing a lot of just 263 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:37.840 anti humor at a time in the eighties and early 264 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:40.039 nineties and people just they didn't even know what the 265 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:43.679 hell they were looking at what he was doing that stuff, Mike, you. 266 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:47.879 Mentioning Bam Margeria and I'm almost now you're making me 267 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:49.440 want to go down like some weird rabbit hole where 268 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:52.279 I have like a graph of which started first, because 269 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:54.240 I know Bam originally started doing that when he was 270 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.720 doing the Cky videos, which predate Jackass. And I'm just 271 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:02.120 outing myself on all things right now of coredutable comedy, 272 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.799 see k why I could take a relief skateboarding, but 273 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.080 there's some really just surreal comedy on those, particularly like 274 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:10.480 anything with Brandon Decamillo. 275 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:14.519 Like there's a song they did called Mustard Man. If 276 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:15.399 they did a whole song. 277 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:17.200 Of music video to torment a friend of theirs because 278 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:19.639 he hated mustards paper, that's funny. 279 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:20.480 It makes me laugh. 280 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:23.639 I'm curious like if the parallel, if there was like influences, 281 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.879 or if it was just like this weird zeitgeist of 282 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:30.279 just these young guys that yeah, we love punk rock, 283 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:35.120 we love skateboarding, and we love torturing our family and 284 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:38.360 being just really obnoxious and irreverent and. 285 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:40.639 Yeah, this is not for everybody. 286 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.919 I was actually really I think it's good that we 287 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:47.440 have you, like always you're a host. But I've known 288 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:51.279 way more people that hate not just like strong. 289 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:53.480 Oh it wasn't for me hate this. 290 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:57.480 Movie more than I've known people that really that really 291 00:15:57.600 --> 00:15:57.960 liked it. 292 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.000 So this will be juicy, it'll be good. 293 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:03.279 It's interesting when it comes to the whole skateboarding video thing, 294 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:06.039 Like within just the last few months, I've interviewed a 295 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:10.559 few people, editors, sound guys where they got their star 296 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:15.120 start with skate videos and like even you know, growing up, 297 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:17.759 I was never a skateboarder because I have absolutely no 298 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:21.960 sense of balance, But I grew up with a lot 299 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:26.159 of friends who were skateboarders, and there was one among 300 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:30.240 them who was a videographer. He would record everything, he 301 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.960 would edit stuff, you know, the old VCR to VCR 302 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:37.320 type of editing and everything. And then yeah, they started 303 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.200 to introduce skits into things. I'm sure a lot of 304 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:43.279 it was coming from, you know, the Thrasher videos that 305 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:45.840 were out. I mean I remember them talking a lot 306 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.799 about the search for animal chin and just like being 307 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:54.120 very close to that culture, but also on the outs 308 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:56.559 of it, just because I you know, I knew who 309 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:00.279 Stacy Peralta was. I knew Bill dan Forth who he was, 310 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:05.079 but I wasn't in that world necessarily. But yeah, it's 311 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.359 interesting how many people got their start in that world 312 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:11.279 and that are still obviously working in the industry today 313 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:13.799 that I'm still interviewing people and they're just like, oh, yeah, 314 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:17.039 I used to edit skate videos. It's like, that's pretty 315 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.880 fucking cool that that's where a lot of diy ethos 316 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:21.480 came from. 317 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:25.920 I'm on the younger end of gen X, so I'm like, 318 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:29.000 on the cusp, you're a bit older than me, five 319 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.920 six years older than me. So it seems like skate 320 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:35.640 kids that I knew when I was in like middle 321 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:37.839 school and stuff, they were all high school kids. There 322 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:39.359 were a good five six years older. They were all 323 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.119 about your age, about what Tom Green's age was. So 324 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.680 there was really this combination of punk rock and skate 325 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:48.559 culture and early vhs like you could get your hands 326 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:52.160 on a camcorder and do stuff. Letterman was probably the 327 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.160 most out there at the time because the other thing 328 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:59.119 that was on at eleven thirty was Carson and he 329 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:03.640 was just stayed and for their grandparents like him. By comparison, 330 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.960 like Letterman was really shaking things up. 331 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:11.440 And I just say I was absolutely thrilled watching that 332 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.640 Tom Green documentary the clips that he chose from David Letterman. 333 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:19.039 When the one clip came on and it was Letterman 334 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:22.359 who found this woman at her job and they had 335 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.119 been to her house. As soon as that came up, 336 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:27.799 I was like, oh my god, I remember this and 337 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:31.079 like said the lines as he's saying them, see this guy, 338 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:34.640 he was sitting on your bed that killed me when 339 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:36.839 I was younger, And it was just so great to 340 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.839 see that clip again. Fucking Letterman was so awesome. And 341 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:44.400 I just loved the whole thread of how much Tom 342 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:48.119 Green loved Letterman and the excitement because I also read 343 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:52.440 a lot of Green's autobiography as well, and you know 344 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:55.119 he's there like yeah, And then Dave made fun of 345 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.599 my forty dollars gap sweater and then they played the 346 00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:59.680 clip and here he is, you know, coming out, and 347 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:01.640 it's like, oh, did you buy that sweater at the Gap? 348 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:03.440 It's like, yep, great. 349 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:08.400 It was so nice to see and to hear him 350 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:10.720 meet his hero to me for my bud. 351 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:12.559 It was one of the best gags Tom Green ever 352 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:15.440 dide on his show was he was on like a 353 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.319 cruise ship, and there was one of the workers named 354 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:23.279 Cereal Kirks, and he's filled fifteen minutes be like the 355 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:27.599 viol and we did this these stereal carpets. 356 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:29.440 What's your name? 357 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:30.359 Oh? 358 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:37.160 And I don't I'm not doing it justice because I 359 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:40.519 am not a comedian, nor am I Tom Green. But 360 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:43.279 to me, it was that irreverence. I've heard some people 361 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:46.200 hate on Jackass and I was like, always just grossed out. 362 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:48.200 But I'm like, but you kind of love these guys. 363 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:50.680 You get to know them as people, and you really 364 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:53.079 do care about them, and you enjoy them, and sometimes 365 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:54.799 to the point where I don't even like seeing some 366 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:56.559 of the stunts because I'm like, oh, I don't do that. 367 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.359 Don't do that to your butthole. You're a good guy. 368 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:02.359 But it with Tom Grad, it was like to me, 369 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:04.799 it was always like when he would do the weirder 370 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:10.079 stuff that had that just that great strangeness about it, 371 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:12.920 because if anybody's just doing something that's just obvious and dumb, 372 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:15.319 it's not gonna stick. I've made the same defense for 373 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:18.200 Beavis and butthead where some people just we'd be well, 374 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:20.680 that shows dumb, and I'm like, it's actually very far 375 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:22.359 from dumb, and it holds up. 376 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:24.240 I love Beavis and butthead. 377 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:26.880 And it's fascinating this whole Zeit guys, all of this 378 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:29.119 stuff came coming from MTV in the nineties. 379 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:31.079 It's so weird to me watching this movie with the 380 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:33.920 budget it has. I don't know if this I mentioning 381 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:35.039 like the skateboard videos. 382 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:37.440 I kept thinking, I wonder if this movie would hit 383 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:39.960 different if it had a fraction of the budget and 384 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:44.519 was shot real. DIY do it not like trash Humper's level, 385 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:47.880 but maybe keep the cast, keep all of that. 386 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:51.599 But because just that the way it was edited. 387 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:54.440 And all of that felt very Hollywood, but it didn't 388 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:56.799 feel like a satire to me. That felt like the 389 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:59.319 studio being like, we got to have some control over 390 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:00.680 this because this guy unhinged. 391 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:06.039 The most unrealistic part of this movie is the fact 392 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:09.480 that there's an American named Gord, thank you. 393 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:11.640 The most Canadian name. 394 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.680 I have never met in an American named Gordon as 395 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:20.200 a detroiter, I have met many Canadians by Gord. 396 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.920 I kept having that this kind act with Gory, what's 397 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:25.279 next versus hockey hair? 398 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:26.680 Are we gonna have a bag? 399 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.160 Of like poo like put ketchup potato chips at a 400 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:34.680 What was that like a Max Webster album in the background. 401 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:36.759 I love Max Webster. 402 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:39.799 You gotta get your double double from Timmy's That's right. 403 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:44.079 A lot of this movie does feel like there's something 404 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:47.599 about Mary at times, especially I mean having Harlan Williams 405 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:50.559 show up. I fucking love Harlan and Williams. Speaking of 406 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:55.559 another underrated comedy, Rocketman. He is so fucking good in Rocketman. 407 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:59.319 I love that movie. I really enjoy him, and you know, 408 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:01.839 he kind of threw it back to something about Mary. 409 00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:07.240 And then even casting of Freddie himself, Eddie K. Thomas, 410 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:10.480 We're going right back to his role as Finch in 411 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:13.880 American Pie. So it's like interesting to see for me, 412 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:17.119 it's like this movie has already started to speak to 413 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:19.279 the movies that came before it, even with some of 414 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:23.519 the casting choices, and yeah, they are spectacular. I kind 415 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:25.519 of wish that Freddie had a little bit more to do. 416 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:29.240 He is great playing this dweeb and just playing that 417 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:32.160 daddy's boy. Just you know, I'm the one that got 418 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:34.440 the job. I'm the one that you know, is fulfilling 419 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:38.599 the promises and the dreams of our parents. And he's 420 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:41.400 just such a little dickhead and he's. 421 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:44.960 Totally disrespected, Like in that one scene where it's oh, 422 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:46.400 I got to go to work and all this and 423 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:49.839 that great dad it is rip towards whatever. It's like 424 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:53.160 he doesn't like any of his kids, like either of them. 425 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:53.839 Really. 426 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:58.319 The number one son license play on the lombaron and 427 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:01.559 I love that God is just it's me. 428 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:04.960 I'm the number one son. This is number one son 429 00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:05.880 in the license plate. 430 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:06.440 That's me. 431 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:07.720 I'm the number one son. 432 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:09.400 What about me? 433 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:11.759 Mom? You're number one son too? 434 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:14.720 But how come Gord gets a leb Baron and I don't? 435 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:16.720 It's because they love me more than they love you? 436 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:18.200 No, no, no, they don't. 437 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.160 Yeah, I only see one LeBaron, Freddy. I only see one. 438 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:26.640 I don't see two lebarons. Where's your le baron, Freddy? 439 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:34.039 Where's your lebarono? How many lionsd this? 440 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:36.920 This car is more than a gift. It's it's kind 441 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:41.599 of an investment in you. It means I believe in 442 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:42.160 my son. 443 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:44.039 You'd be a good man. 444 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:45.720 Father. 445 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:50.240 I will be a good man. You make your daddy proud. 446 00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.960 You hear me, I'm gonna make you proud, daddy. 447 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:56.200 I'm gonna make you so proud. 448 00:23:58.799 --> 00:23:59.839 You make your daddy proud. 449 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:01.880 You're gonna be so. 450 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:03.400 Proud, bro. 451 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:06.480 Proud. 452 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:12.279 Get the fuck out of the line. 453 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:20.480 Of the casting in this movie, so we get the casting. 454 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:26.400 Rip Torn, for my money is and there are things 455 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:27.359 I love about this film. 456 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:30.000 I'm obviously not a hater. He is the best thing 457 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.119 in this movie, Ripped Torn. And it shocks me. 458 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:35.039 And of course it's the date malaged my very. I 459 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:37.720 don't know how true, and neither is that he wasn't 460 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.119 even the first choice. And I'm like, and some of 461 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:44.519 the choices I saw that they vetted before or tried 462 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:46.960 to vote, and it didn't happen before Torn. I was 463 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:49.400 like Gary Shandler, like they just went to the Larry 464 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.960 Sander cast basically and to a tour with third I 465 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:54.799 cannot imagine Gery Shandling in this role. 466 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:56.000 I can't imagine. 467 00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:01.240 Maybe I like Jeffrey Tambor, He's awesome, but no nobody 468 00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:03.400 else could do this role. But Rip Torn, Ripped Torn, 469 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.559 has that chaos element in him. 470 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:08.559 He is chaos. 471 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:11.519 If he was a woman, he'd be Heiress, the goddess 472 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:16.839 of chaos that is rip Torn. And he also has 473 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:21.000 that underground, a reverent spirit about him, even he's the 474 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:24.720 like outer limits then doing like Maidstone in the sixties 475 00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:28.039 and doing wild avant garn theater and so retards. It 476 00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:32.279 perfect to do this kind of like insane, very anti 477 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:37.799 mainstream comedy with a completely mainstream bud and distribution. He's 478 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:41.000 perfect and he's so angry in this film. It's like 479 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.599 he was doing Angel Tossed in the Trail a theater 480 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:46.519 and I love him well. 481 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:50.160 And he never stopped working. But there was that weird 482 00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.680 bump that he got from Men in Black where it 483 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:55.839 was just like, remember this guy, Like, like I said, 484 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:59.240 he hadn't gone away. He was Hercules that same year. 485 00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:02.160 He had been in down Periscope a few years prior 486 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:06.920 to that, like he's always been around Canadian Bacon another classic. 487 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:10.480 But it's like he got that little bump from Men 488 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:12.799 in Black and it was just like, look out, he's back. 489 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.400 And Ripped Torn, by the way, I always used to 490 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:21.200 confuse him with Rip Taylor, because Rip Torn obviously is 491 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:24.480 a joke name, and then Rip Taylor doesn't have a 492 00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:26.759 joke name, but I always mix those two up because 493 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:28.519 I was just like, well, of course, the guy whose 494 00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:33.640 name Rip Torn is throwing confetti everywhere and another nice 495 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:35.880 little nod to the end of the first Jeckass movie. 496 00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:38.559 And that's why I had to send you guys the 497 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.960 bit about Maidstone, because I'm like, if Tom Green was 498 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:44.839 a pain in the ass director, which I don't know 499 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.400 if he was or not, I'm like, that's nothing compared 500 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:51.000 to what Ripped Torn dealing with Norman Mayler in their fight, 501 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.960 which included a hammer to the skull and someone getting 502 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:58.039 their ear bitting off. I'll uh, Mike Tyson, it's crazy. 503 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:01.680 We're already having a wave in the theory as it is. 504 00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:05.480 And then I'm thinking about young viral Rip Torn on 505 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:10.079 probably twenty hits to ask hidden Norman Mayler, who was 506 00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:13.400 such a knob of Layton Mayler. Just it's a terrible person, 507 00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.519 stabbed his pregnant wife at one point, by the way, 508 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:20.119 so fuck him. And there's Rip cool as a cucumber, 509 00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:23.319 call him baby baby the Norman's I could just we 510 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:25.599 could do ahole episode on just that scene of Maidstone. 511 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:29.599 I would be so glad to guess on that towards perfect. 512 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:33.480 He's perfect in this film and it's spanking his fair 513 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.119 ass going fucking ly. 514 00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.640 Fuck Lee Core, you want a fucking daddy, Fuck you daddy, 515 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:39.480 Fuck you daddy. 516 00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:43.920 It's not right. It's riptort and somebody and Gary shambling 517 00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:44.240 during that. 518 00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:48.119 I can't, I can't, and he would probably just sound 519 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:50.680 like embarrassed trying to say the lights fuck fuck me. 520 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:51.519 I don't know. 521 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:55.440 I can't do Gary Shanley, but ripptorn and having Julie 522 00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:59.720 Haggardy that's the mother like great Julie Haggerty. I always 523 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.359 loved seeing her pop up in something. She's always just 524 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:04.880 like a familiar light for me, which she when I 525 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:05.559 see he in a movie. 526 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:09.160 Little underdone as far as her role goes, like I 527 00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:10.799 wish there was a little bit more of her, but 528 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.440 she's basically the long suffering wife. I do like that 529 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:16.880 she ends up leaving him and starts getting some of 530 00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:18.039 that good dick from. 531 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.160 Shack, who's like angsteeing out she has she has got 532 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.839 him what would be the opposite of digmatized vagina tized, 533 00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:28.960 I got this person for you. 534 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.440 Like embarrassed for her. It's it's so I'm just like, oh, 535 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.400 that's lovely, go get that, you go. 536 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:37.799 Go. 537 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.920 Julie Haggerty. No granted being with the melee griptorn that 538 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.480 this is a rip tour. This is the gim character 539 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:51.240 I think, who's even more angry and maybe equally legal 540 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:53.559 polititious an action. 541 00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:59.200 But but yeah, this this family dynamic and then you 542 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.640 have Gore does a character. Now's the question I have 543 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:04.039 for you from both year. 544 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.880 Do you feel like Gord as a character simultaneously uplifts 545 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.720 the film because some of the funny spits are som green, 546 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:17.559 But then his character is such a bad penny for 547 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.519 everything he touches that it's sometimes it's it's not funny, 548 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:25.000 it's just, oh, Jeeve, Gord, you have such a nice 549 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:26.000 Canadian name. 550 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:26.599 What are you doing? 551 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.559 On one level, I could relate to his character because 552 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:34.559 I got that they're working class, Like dad works at 553 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:40.279 the mill or something, and he wants a creative life. 554 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.559 He wants to be this cartoonist. And in the beginning 555 00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.319 when he's drawing this X ray cat cartoon and he's like, 556 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.119 I'm gonna get be an animator and this is like 557 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:53.160 his goal and so that's the basically the main driver 558 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:55.359 for him is to try and figure out how to 559 00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:59.599 establish himself. So there's part of me that like can 560 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.200 relate to that oh man, like, I'm so far away 561 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.079 from ever having a creative life because basically the best 562 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.279 I could do would be to go work at the bank, 563 00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:13.200 which is what the other character has so his brother, 564 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.440 so to me, I can relate to that. At the 565 00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:21.319 same time, his character's gone if you did the things 566 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:24.920 he does in reality. Like I said, you have to 567 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.519 look at this as a cartoon to a certain extent, 568 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.799 because if you were going to take this as sincerity, 569 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:35.720 like just him stopping the car and running over to 570 00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:40.920 the farm and helping out with the stud the stud horse, 571 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.279 I think that might get you institutionalized. They might be 572 00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.599 doing a McMurphy on there, McMurray on you there. It's 573 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.960 at the end because you're just a little too unhinged. 574 00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.680 But the one thing that I really love about this, 575 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.680 and we talk about the other characters, is I really 576 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.799 love the Betty character. And that was the thing that 577 00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:09.759 really I absolutely connected to in this film. I said, Wow, 578 00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:14.079 I'm like, here's a character who she's a woman who 579 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:19.920 has sexual agency, who's in a wheelchair, and it doesn't 580 00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:23.319 face him at all. He's just like, big deal, Like 581 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.920 she's in a wheelchair. And other people comment about the 582 00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.119 fact that she's in a wheelchair as a handicap, but 583 00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.839 she does not allow that and those expectations to stop 584 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.640 what she wants to do. And I was like that, 585 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.160 I think is one of the rare things where it's like, oh, 586 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:43.759 you pitied, it's so sad. There's always this pity for 587 00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.400 the disabled character, and not in this movie, like she's 588 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.960 treated just any other normal quote unquote, and I'm using 589 00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:54.240 her quotes normal person, which which I thought that was 590 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.720 rather bold and interesting given the time. I don't think 591 00:31:58.720 --> 00:31:59.680 anyone's doing that. Then. 592 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.119 Oh my god, I love Betty that much Marisa Coughlin 593 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.000 or Marissa Coughlin I could be doing. 594 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.440 She's dynamite here. I loved her performance so much. 595 00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:16.000 I love her weird little sort of beavisy kit like giggle, 596 00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:20.160 like she got this little stouter giggle like that. But 597 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:24.160 she's as unhinged in some ways as Gored. After he 598 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.599 first meets Betty and she, oh, yeah, he was my 599 00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.079 number and he's selling his like harl William's character is, 600 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:32.039 Oh my god, it's so weird. I asked to girl out. 601 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:34.799 She said yes, and he's about to but he's like, yeah, 602 00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.000 it is weird. Her likes don't work or something. 603 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.279 But then that's dropped like it's not really, it's like, okay, 604 00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:45.920 cool whatever, Like it's not. It's a non issue, which 605 00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:47.799 is super refreshing. 606 00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:48.359 It's not. 607 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.920 It's not made into any sort of like after school 608 00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:53.160 special kind of vibes. 609 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:58.000 And another thing other than like a slur that Jim 610 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.400 for Torm's character yells at Freddy and Harlan Williams outside, 611 00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.279 there's no like homophobia. There's no. 612 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.720 And this era was rife with gay jokes and and 613 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:15.119 also a lot of sexism, and neither one. Now the women, 614 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:19.400 the women, Julie Hagerty's kind of she blazes her bother man, 615 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:23.119 I'm out, I'm gonna get with Shack, and Betty's just, 616 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.400 oh my god, my favorite. And the way Coughlin delivers 617 00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.680 this line nails me. It just kills me, because like 618 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.599 they have their reunion and he's given her jewels and 619 00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:34.759 she's doing that big teary eyed where's I don't want 620 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:35.359 your jewels? 621 00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.319 And you think she's gonna say, I just want your love, 622 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.440 and she's like, I just want to suck a cock. 623 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:42.680 That's what I love about that. It's no good. 624 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.960 I love that she just wants to suck his cock, 625 00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:48.720 wants to have her legs beaten with a bamboo pole, 626 00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:53.480 And I also love his response to that, like he 627 00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.599 does indulge her fetish both both times we see them together. 628 00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.279 In early part of the film, he's beating her life eggs. 629 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.200 He screws up and hits her in the face at 630 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:05.279 one point, but once he understands that, he's like, okay, 631 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.319 and then even like offers up his knee to be 632 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:11.320 hit and everything, but the whole thing of her just 633 00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.159 one suck his cock, and he's just like, well, can 634 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.719 we just go out for dinner? Like it's not that 635 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:20.960 you know, Peter Venkman, when Dana's coming on to me, 636 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:22.719 he's like, oh all right, well no, no, no, I 637 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:25.119 shouldn't like because you know Venkman wants to hit that 638 00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.760 even though Dana's not in her right mind. But Gord 639 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.400 is very just like, oh, no, I actually want to 640 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.320 go out on a date with you, Like we've had 641 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.800 two dates. Neither one of our dates because both times 642 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.000 you end up sucking my cock. And it's like he 643 00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.239 actually wants to take her to a fancy restaurant, sir, 644 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:41.679 this is a fancy restaurant. 645 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.199 And that's what I also liked about it was that's 646 00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.960 the thing he's uncomfortable about. It's just like that she 647 00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.119 has his agency, and at first he's kind of like, 648 00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.840 I don't know how to deal with that. Aren't we 649 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.000 supposed to go to dinner and hold. 650 00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:56.679 Hands and be romantic? 651 00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:57.480 Yeah? 652 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.599 Right, Yeah, he's just that's a good Portland boy, you know, 653 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.719 wants to with the Canadian name. He wants to hold hands. Yeah, 654 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.639 doesn't want all that cocksucking all the time, even though 655 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:12.639 she's voracious, even and she doesn't even question too much 656 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:16.000 him having a umbilical core duct tape to his stomach. 657 00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:19.079 I love that she like arches her eyebrow and then 658 00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.960 after he explains that she's oh, I could work around that. 659 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:26.320 She's like such a trooper. She loves at Falacio. She 660 00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:31.320 is down for the crime. And yeah, the ubilical cordus gross. 661 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:34.199 There are some gags and this film that actually hit 662 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.360 me more gross and raw now that I think they 663 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.480 did when I was younger. I don't know if that's 664 00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:43.679 just because of getting older, or if it's just sobriety. 665 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.920 It's probably the combination, and this one will only probably 666 00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.760 hit people funny if they've seen the movie, because describing 667 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:52.880 it is not gonna do it justice. But after he 668 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.000 meets with the great I loved Anthony Michael Holl in 669 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:56.920 this film. By the way, he's a charactor. I always 670 00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.440 just loves seeing them. Anthony Michael Hall is great and 671 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.920 he gives he's actually really good advice like that may 672 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.519 be the most unrealistic thing in this film. Actually is 673 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:11.400 a successful entrepreneur in Hollywood giving helpful advice to a 674 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.239 somebody who's very green. But he's just You're like, the 675 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.480 drawings are good, the story sucks. You need to work 676 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:19.400 on the story. She need to get inside these characters. 677 00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.760 You'd inside these animals that you were drawing. And Tom 678 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:26.519 Green seeing a dead deer carcass is an old, dead, horned, 679 00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:31.039 antlered animal cuts it guts right in the little street 680 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:33.960 and where is it like a cape. He's like, like 681 00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.800 that make you and then he gets it by a 682 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.920 semi and then the guy checks on him. 683 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.840 He's covered in like old road killed blood and he. 684 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.400 Just starts laughing maniacally, going greed, Tom greed, but he 685 00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.599 gets super unhinged in the way he does that. 686 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.000 He does it so well. 687 00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.039 It always makes me laugh, like he's just so good 688 00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:59.000 at committing to just the intensity these intensities, he's just 689 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:00.440 it's but he's on. 690 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:03.639 He just added out it always tickles my funny bone. 691 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:08.159 Those notes that he gives him about the X Ray 692 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:13.280 cant Animation show feels like a meta commentary on the 693 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.079 film itself. It feels exactly like, you've got this idea, 694 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.400 but it doesn't quite work and all this. So he 695 00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:24.400 it's almost like he's explaining why the movie is the 696 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:29.840 way it is. To a certain it's interesting. But I 697 00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:33.440 also thought when he puts the the animal carcass on 698 00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:37.159 and does the dance, I was like, I never knew 699 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.480 that this was an inspiration for Midsummer If. 700 00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:44.719 Rip Torn's role in this film, if his performance inspired 701 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.679 him being cast for Dodgeball, because not about three years later, 702 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.519 and I feel like there's a similar dynamic. 703 00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:56.440 Yeah, that's the old man kind of thing. Yeah, you 704 00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:58.119 can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. 705 00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:00.920 To your point, Mike, this was in that mid period 706 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.559 between like Larry Sanders and the first minute Black and 707 00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.840 then later on mid of Black two and then Dodgeball. 708 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.400 Because definitely Dodgeball really further amped up the You know, 709 00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:13.920 I won't call it a comeback. 710 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.079 Because he's been there for years, but definitely the more 711 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:22.280 like newer generation awareness of return. But yeah, oh god, 712 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:23.079 it's someone. 713 00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:27.559 Talking about this movie being a parody of other quote 714 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:30.679 unquote gross out comedies. I mean, obviously he's going to 715 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.960 go farther than anybody ever has before, just because he's 716 00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.079 one making a point about stuff, and two he's Tom Green. 717 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.960 So like the whole thing with the roadkill, from what 718 00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.119 I understand, that's where the line and the M and 719 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.880 M song about humping a dead moose came from, and 720 00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.440 that was part of his show. It's amazing to hear 721 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.559 him talk about or to see some of these clips 722 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:54.599 from his show and realize that so many of the 723 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.400 things that he's doing in this movie are basically like 724 00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:02.599 riffs on the show, or references to things that were 725 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:04.599 on the show, or even references just the things in 726 00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:06.679 real life. You talked about in the commentary about how 727 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.639 he had a friend who would talk about business, and 728 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:11.719 you know, you you buy the stocks when they're when 729 00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.320 they're really low, and then you sell them when they're 730 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.679 when they're high, and you buy them low and then 731 00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:18.559 you sell them when they're high and you're just doing 732 00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.960 that thing. And he also I guess they did the 733 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:26.199 whole thing with the phone with the tape recorder and 734 00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.400 then you know, yelling like you know, you look at 735 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.199 your desk, you're fucking fired, like all that stuff. It's 736 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.719 just it's all like I don't want to say recycling, 737 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:36.679 but it's just like, Okay, well, these are good bits 738 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:39.119 and we're going to pull them all together in this 739 00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:40.760 this film. 740 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.079 That was the thing also that I liked about the 741 00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:47.400 Tom Green documentary was some of those scenes that are 742 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:50.639 in that documentary. He doesn't connect them one to one 743 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.000 that way. But after seeing because I watched Freddy Got 744 00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.920 Fingers and then so the documentary watch it again, I 745 00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:58.920 was like, as you were saying, I'm like, oh, this 746 00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:02.360 is just him doing a fictionalized version of this instead 747 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:03.760 of a man on the street version of this. 748 00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.760 One of the flaws of this film, and it's just 749 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:11.320 time back to how the story aspects of the film 750 00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:15.119 are obviously very loose. That's fine, but there are parts 751 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:18.559 that full flat because in the film will do a 752 00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:22.480 little traditional film moment, but then there's like bits and 753 00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:26.480 there's to me, a disharmony with it that doesn't feel 754 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.000 organically part of what he's doing. 755 00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:30.599 There are parts of it that do, and those are 756 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.480 the parts that work really well, but then there are 757 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:33.719 other parts that just don't. 758 00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:36.760 It's like what those thinkings isn't like the other kind 759 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.719 of thing. And that's why I was like, I almost 760 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.480 wonder if this would have just worked better if take 761 00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:45.639 away a lot of that sheen and studio control and 762 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.920 just make your own sheen and delude Tom, just make 763 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:54.159 it super diy, but with the same caz. 764 00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:56.159 I think that'd be like an interesting flavor. 765 00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:58.679 Is still like, we still have some Hollywood elements, but 766 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:02.000 then the rest of this is just just like souped nuts. 767 00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:06.480 But what were you what was the hot the gross 768 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:07.039 out bits? 769 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:07.239 You know? 770 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.679 I was talking about how if this is a parody 771 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:13.320 of other gross out comedies, he's going to amp up 772 00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:16.039 the gross out bits as much as much as he 773 00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:22.280 possibly can, so things like the dead deer, things like 774 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:26.960 the birthing scene, which rewatching this again, I was like, yeah, 775 00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.800 I can kind of see why people thought this was objectionable, 776 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:33.760 but I just found it very funny. I especially like 777 00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:37.039 the whole moment where he's got his shoes literally screwed 778 00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:39.639 to the floor so he can grab the baby ahull 779 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:42.920 way back on the umbellical cord and like it. Like 780 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.280 you said, Rob, it's like a living cartoon that he's 781 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.840 doing with this, and you know, and then he ends 782 00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.159 up saving that baby. Why is nobody applauding him for that? 783 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.199 Come on, that's right. You got a problem with heroes 784 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:52.679 around here. 785 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:58.000 In my mind, I conflated the elephant jacking off with 786 00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:00.960 the horse shacking off, and Eat walks in the commentary 787 00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:04.639 about jacking off a horse, and I'm like, can you 788 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.400 consider it jacking off a horse if there's no completion, 789 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.320 because for me, it was just molesting a horse rather 790 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:11.760 than jacking off a horse. 791 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:17.599 Yeah, get it right, Tom Green, you liar. He really 792 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:19.679 just grabs the horse as willy And it's. 793 00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.559 Like, oh, well about a farm guy working on a farm, 794 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:25.079 which I'm fine with. I don't want to see or 795 00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:27.880 I don't want to see any animal. It was bad 796 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:28.679 enough we saw what. 797 00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:29.239 We did here. 798 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:33.199 Just the drippiness of the horse cock was really I 799 00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:35.400 was just like wow. And he talks about that a 800 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.840 little bit on the commentary. He's just like, I don't 801 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:39.480 know what that liquid is or it might have been 802 00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:41.679 in the documentary where he's talking about the liquid. I 803 00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:44.599 think he's actually talking to our guest on this episode, 804 00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:48.079 the producer, one of the producers. So it's like, yeah, no, 805 00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:50.199 I don't know where that liquid comes from either. No, 806 00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.880 that is in the commentary where he's like, my cock 807 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.679 doesn't have liquid on it, and I was like, well, 808 00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.360 you do have pre com. So I think that might 809 00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.119 be the horse's pre com just kind of getting it 810 00:42:59.199 --> 00:42:59.880 ready kind of thing. 811 00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.639 The next we're going to decide exactly when is the 812 00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:07.480 moment that a premature ejaculation becomes a mature ejaculation. What 813 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.719 are we talking about here? This is what we call foreshadowing. 814 00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:12.639 It's Chekoff's gun. 815 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:15.519 He needed to pay off, he had to pay off. 816 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.960 It's Chekhoff's gun. Literally, there you go. 817 00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.760 Well, and again, you know, it's the miracle of life, 818 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.239 which we have with the baby scene. We also have 819 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.079 the breathing and it really all speaks to the whole 820 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:29.519 power of power of fathers and sons, you know, which 821 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.000 is through this and especially when it comes to the 822 00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:35.440 whole idea of Freddy getting fingered. It's very capturing the 823 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:37.599 freedman's in that way. In fact, I think that this 824 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:42.880 is more arn't felt than capturing the Freedman's myself camp follow. 825 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:44.559 That up, Mike, I will say, I like to they 826 00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:48.000 Tom Green had seen brov Checks a little bit and 827 00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:51.639 was inspired by the opening sequence in that film. 828 00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.320 That is a That film is a masterpiece. 829 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:57.280 But the word I can't believe we got got away 830 00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.320 with it like in our rating, I don't. There's like 831 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.800 different cuts. But he got a weigh with a lot 832 00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:07.280 and I'm just like, but the NPA is we don't want, we. 833 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:11.280 Don't want kind of lingos. But we're fine with a horse, 834 00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:13.440 a real horse penis being. 835 00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.679 Hoisted up by a hand. Go me like that, but 836 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.559 no kind of lingos and no, no, no human male genitals. 837 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:26.280 A giant horse penis is perfectly fine. But no, don't 838 00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:30.760 you be given that little human adult willy in that picture. 839 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.639 Now, I think part of it has to do with tone. 840 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:38.559 It is so ridiculous. You can't you just can't take 841 00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.360 it serious. It can't take any of the thing really 842 00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.519 serious in here. And I agree with you on that 843 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:47.639 that it's to its detriment as a standard narrative that 844 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.679 you can't really take things serious. So it does have 845 00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.639 this kind of back and forth where you're like you 846 00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:58.119 could get into the narrative and then something pulls you out. 847 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.440 So that's why I don't I think it works as 848 00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:03.800 a straight ahead film. It's almost like an art piece 849 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.800 exp like we're trying to go, I go. This is 850 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:11.400 a shnandalu. This is some sort of performance art piece 851 00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:13.719 more than it is a standard narrative film. 852 00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.639 Yeah, Tom Green as Karen Findley. The only thing missing 853 00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:21.079 is the can of yams. Yeah, that's great. That's a 854 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:22.039 great way to approach it. 855 00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:26.079 Also a side note with the cartoon elements, did you 856 00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:28.239 guys feel like there was any sort of John Kay 857 00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.840 from Red and Stimpy sort of satire going on? Because 858 00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:34.239 when we see the cartoon come to action, which is 859 00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.239 by the way they'll look at my hoofs part is 860 00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:38.920 one of my favorite things, not just in this. 861 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:39.719 Film, in life. 862 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:42.679 If having a bad day, I get to say our 863 00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:47.320 ground going, you've got feet But was hilarious, but that 864 00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:53.280 his whole like Zebra People cartoon, like the violence in 865 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.639 that and the father character. It felt to me so 866 00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:59.719 much like John Kay because John k always said there 867 00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:06.199 was ocular strangchin I grow fifties male father archetypes. 868 00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:10.119 And everything is like everything is just even things that. 869 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:13.159 Are pretty are really close up really gnarly and nasty, 870 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:16.039 and there's like weird hairs and all of that. 871 00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:18.519 I just I felt like it was very much like 872 00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:20.920 a John K kind of satire. 873 00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.719 Yeah, I could see Ren and stimpy. Yeah. 874 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:27.920 Well yeah when he pulls him down the street and 875 00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.920 his teeth are grinding along and you just think of 876 00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:35.000 you think everyone Wren had that bad tooth and you 877 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:38.239 get to see that close up of the mouth where 878 00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.400 it's just like the little stink lines coming off of things, 879 00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:45.280 and just yeah, how awful his mouth was. Yeah, I 880 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.760 can definitely see that. I think was the animator I 881 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:51.599 think was involved with Beavis and Butthead. But it didn't 882 00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:53.960 look like Beavis and Butthead did not have that same 883 00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:58.239 animation style, which I always appreciated. And I haven't watched 884 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.559 the new Beavis and butt Head because apparently that's a thing, 885 00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:05.079 but I always appreciate it. Just how shitty the animation 886 00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:08.760 looked like kind of on purpose, you know, I mean, 887 00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:13.000 like just the faces and everything just were not right, 888 00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:16.320 you know, like, yeah, they you know Beavis had a 889 00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.159 really or sorry but had had a really weak chin, 890 00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.920 but like that chin. I mean you've seen, I'm sure 891 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.599 we've all seen. This is what Beavis and butt Heead 892 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.239 would look like in real life and that Nightmare fuel 893 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.079 kind of like this is what Popeye would look like 894 00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.400 in real life, or here's what Homer Simpson would look 895 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.679 like in real life, and you're just like, holy shit. 896 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:38.760 Both of them, but especially Ren and Stimpy were great 897 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:41.599 with bros out kind of stuff and just yeah, those 898 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:44.480 close ups or I would love when they would do 899 00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.559 close ups and then you'd hear the fog horn. 900 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.199 At least Viavis and butt Head. I can still enjoy 901 00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:56.920 it because Mike Judge isn't a creeper. But yeah, thanks 902 00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:57.320 John k. 903 00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:01.760 Oh, yeah yeah, that that John k documentary will turn 904 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:02.320 your stomach. 905 00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:04.480 I had even see the documentary. I read the was 906 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:05.239 it es choire? 907 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:10.360 I read the article and that with heartbreaking on so 908 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:15.719 many levels, and especially as I'm the age that those 909 00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.400 girls were like because I got into that show as 910 00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:21.000 a little kid actually and I. 911 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:23.960 It was like nothing. 912 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:24.360 Yeah. 913 00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:25.840 I hate when people are like, oh, this were in 914 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:28.199 my childhood. Your childhood is still there, your Childhoo's fine. 915 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.000 It's the past. It is the past. 916 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:34.920 I say it feels tainted now, Yeah, because it does. 917 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.920 They ever Billy West love Billy West. As far as 918 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.280 I know, Billy West hasn't done anything on tours. 919 00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:44.760 I did see Pretty Got Fingered compared a lot to 920 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.519 Dirty Work, which we just watched for the Chevy Chase podcast, 921 00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:51.079 because I think Chevy Chase is in it for like 922 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.760 two seconds or something. Actually, I think he works on 923 00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:59.679 Who's the greatest insult comic of all? Don Rickles? I 924 00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:03.239 think he's Don Rickles's doctor. It didn't connect with Dirty 925 00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:04.760 Work at all, and I think that's one of those 926 00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:06.960 nostalgia things where if you grew up with it, you're 927 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.880 probably still a big fan. But I didn't grow up 928 00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.159 with it, and I was like, eh, yeah, I do 929 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.639 like Norm McDonald a lot, and he also has a 930 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.440 lot of anti comedy. I just saw him telling a 931 00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:21.280 joke today where you know, he talked with his doctor 932 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.639 and his doctor said, if you don't quit eating like this, 933 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:25.880 you're going to have a heart attack or a stroke. 934 00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:28.239 And the person said, I thought you were setting up 935 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.440 for a joke. He goes, no, my doctor's not a comedian. 936 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.519 I am, Oh my god. I missed that man so much. 937 00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:39.639 And the best thing the Bob Saggett roast Norm McDonald's 938 00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.440 I know this isn't a side, but it must be spoken. 939 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.639 One of the other comedians tries to best him and 940 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.000 be like listening to Norm McDonald do comedies like watching 941 00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:52.199 Henry fond of pick blueberries and Nor McDonald just without 942 00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:54.079 this to be Oh, I can't think of anything more 943 00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:57.480 that this audience would love to see than him under 944 00:49:58.039 --> 00:49:59.679 flip Love. 945 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.239 We have a lot of well wishers here tonight, and 946 00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:04.320 a lot of them would like to throw you down 947 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:05.719 one a well. 948 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:12.039 They want to murder you in a well. It's a 949 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:12.880 little harsh, but. 950 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.000 Apparently they want to murder you in a well. 951 00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:19.360 It says you're on this card. 952 00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:23.400 That man's a JOm, that man is an ass. I 953 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:24.760 miss I miss him so much. 954 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.679 Also, I'm ashamed, but he said the greatest insult comic 955 00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.079 of all time, Mike my brain said, triumph. 956 00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:31.280 He's up there. 957 00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:35.199 He's definitely up there. Getting back to Betty real quick. 958 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.639 The other thing that we should not forget is that 959 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:43.480 she's the one that actually influences and inspires Gored to 960 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:47.679 fulfill his dream because she fulfills her dream of having 961 00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.960 that rocket powered wheelchair, and you know, she gets on 962 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.360 the news and everything. She's the one that really inspires 963 00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:58.719 him while he has his freak out serving more cheese sandwiches. 964 00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.280 And honestly, when I watched Laugh Out Loud or Last 965 00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:06.199 One Laughing, I had no memory of this whole cheese 966 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.880 sandwich theme, and apparently that was also a theme on 967 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.760 the show, and people would you know, he would always 968 00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:18.119 bring up cheese sandwiches. So I love that scene when 969 00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:21.400 he's working at the second cheese sandwich place, the actual 970 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:25.639 like subway shop, and just piling on all the cheese 971 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.039 onto that guy sandwich. That that really worked for me. 972 00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.559 There are a lot of moments in this movie that 973 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:35.000 do work quite a bit for me. I mean, the 974 00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:39.800 sausage song is fantastic. It's interesting too that he doesn't 975 00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:44.519 seem to care about pacing. You would think that Gord 976 00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:50.320 coming back to Oregon would be the end of act one, 977 00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:54.039 but it happens like what fifteen minutes into this movie, 978 00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:57.280 So it's like so quick. He just like goes down, 979 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.199 sees the horse keeps going, you know. And I know 980 00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:03.280 we'll talk about deleted scenes, and there were a lot 981 00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:06.760 of deleted scenes in that opening sequence, even to the 982 00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:09.199 point of towards the end of the movie having the 983 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.800 person holding the sign saying when is this fucking movie 984 00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:15.079 going to end? It's like, yeah, we are definitely way 985 00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.199 past where the third act should have ended. 986 00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:21.440 As you were saying, she becomes the inspiration for him 987 00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:26.400 to complete his mission. Is his reaction when it doesn't 988 00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:30.840 work that he's don't you feel like a dummy, and 989 00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.800 she's no, because how can I expect to get it 990 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:38.159 on the first time? And so I really love that 991 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.920 interplay of attitudes where it's no, it has to be 992 00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.920 easy and simple, otherwise I'm just going to collapse. I'm 993 00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:49.400 not gonna be able to do anything, or it's now 994 00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:51.519 I'll just I'll just keep iterating until I get it. 995 00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:55.079 And so I love how they represent two different ideas 996 00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:58.079 of the creative end in that way, because I dealt 997 00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.719 with people on both sides who are like, oh, I'm 998 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.800 just fucking terrible. I got rejected by all these agents, 999 00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.239 nobody wants to hire me, and it's oh, I'm done. 1000 00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:10.559 And it's really because it is the tenacity of the 1001 00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:13.800 cockroaches that run the joint and is to have to say. 1002 00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.639 He actually has two different people give him actually really. 1003 00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:23.199 Sound and vibe and not like sound in Hollywood movie advise, 1004 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:24.000 keep doing it. 1005 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:25.239 You have to keep testing it. 1006 00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:27.920 And even like Anthony Michael Halls were like, yeah, actually 1007 00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:32.119 your art's good, just there's no story, Like it's animation. 1008 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:33.480 We have to tell a story. You gotta work on 1009 00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.599 the story. And it's okay. The Gord's got like some 1010 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.599 good people in his life. I don't know whether or 1011 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:44.119 not he deserves them. He literally falsely accuses his father 1012 00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:50.039 of molesting his adult aged brother, who is then he's 1013 00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:54.400 put in a in a home. But it's it's it's 1014 00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:56.519 not funny, but it's funny. 1015 00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:01.119 Frank Cron asked, Freddy's like with these kids watching like 1016 00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:02.840 Medical future. 1017 00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:07.000 Watching the Texas Chainsaw massacre. Oh, you're right, No, it 1018 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.920 was the medical footage that he was watching when they 1019 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.000 came to take him away. He was watching Tom Green's 1020 00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:19.920 actual operation footage. And you had Tom Green's actual like 1021 00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.639 high school photo next to the television. Yeah, and really 1022 00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:27.400 thinking about it because Green, the thing about that documentary 1023 00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:32.119 that really shines through is just his real life tenacity, 1024 00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:34.800 Like he is the opposite of Gord when it comes 1025 00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:38.719 to this, Like he you know, it's like John Payce's 1026 00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:40.599 Crime Wave. He came from the North End. He had 1027 00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.639 a dream, you know, he has this dream of I 1028 00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:46.920 want to have my television show. And everything he did 1029 00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:51.320 in his entire life was to get this dream fulfilled. 1030 00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.639 You know, he took a lot of video classes when 1031 00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:57.039 he's in high school. He's you know, started to work 1032 00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:00.159 on public access. He started his public access show. It 1033 00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.760 got so popular that he moved from you know, one 1034 00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.559 network to like I think it was much Much Music 1035 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:07.880 or something in Canada, and then it gets to go 1036 00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:09.400 to New York and. 1037 00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:10.000 Make his pitch. 1038 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.199 It gets picked up. He has his own talk show 1039 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.920 now on like MTV, And it's just amazing to see 1040 00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:20.199 how hard he worked to do that and to perfect 1041 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:22.679 these things, and how he would keep what worked and 1042 00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.440 then worked on what didn't work. And you know, the 1043 00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:28.159 things like his co host or the guy who sat 1044 00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:30.440 behind him in the window and would laugh at things 1045 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:32.079 like those worked for him. 1046 00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:33.480 So he just keeps doing it. 1047 00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:36.440 He could have dumped those guys that he grew up 1048 00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:38.239 with and been like no, no, give me, like an 1049 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:42.559 Andy Richter or something, but no, he's stays loyal to 1050 00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:44.960 his friends. And that was The really nice thing too 1051 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:48.440 about that documentary was here's all of his friends from 1052 00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:51.199 fucking high school are still friends with him. 1053 00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:53.239 That tells through everything. 1054 00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:54.360 And Glenn. 1055 00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:57.519 I can't even imagine him not having Glenn. I care 1056 00:55:57.519 --> 00:55:59.840 about Glenn's last name, but Glenn. Glenn's like his co 1057 00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.800 on the show. And Glenn's always kind of like this, 1058 00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:06.440 kind of like the straight guy to Tom's Shenanigans and 1059 00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:09.119 and just and poor Glenn. There was this whole thing 1060 00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:12.800 where Tom kept trying to get Glenn to like sensually 1061 00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:16.559 kisses and he can try to set up the mood. 1062 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:20.719 I love that. And also public access represent as somebody 1063 00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:21.800 who I. 1064 00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.760 Learned all my video my core video skills at a 1065 00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.239 bublic access station. I worked at a public access station. 1066 00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.199 And people don't get public access enough credit. 1067 00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:32.800 And that's the thing. That's what it's there for, for 1068 00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:35.920 people to learn these skills to get their art out there. 1069 00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:38.840 That's a beautiful thing. And I just love that Tom 1070 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:43.000 Green used that, especially because not everybody. Most people don't 1071 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:47.599 have as cheaper as the technology gets. If you're working class, 1072 00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:51.599 that technology isn't that chy. It's not if you're paying, 1073 00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:54.519 if you're living paycheck to paycheck. You can't just be like, 1074 00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:56.679 oh yeah, let me go spend several hundred bucks on 1075 00:56:56.719 --> 00:57:00.360 a camera and then more more on an editor and 1076 00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:03.719 stuff like that. So he just us everything that he could. 1077 00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:06.880 He's a great working class hero. And you know what, 1078 00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.480 even if somebody hates this film, I don't think you 1079 00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:12.519 could say he sold out. Selling out would have probably 1080 00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.079 been in his financial favor at this point because he 1081 00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:17.239 was white hot from. 1082 00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:20.079 All that MTV and all doing What was that movie 1083 00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:23.960 Road Trip, which I know I saw. I can't remember 1084 00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:27.000 a thing of did your brother the Tom Greene being 1085 00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:29.400 in it? I don't remember the movie. I know for 1086 00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.559 a fact I watched it. It was so much. I 1087 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:33.480 don't know if it was just like a nothing burger 1088 00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:37.119 of a comedy where it just nothing suck. 1089 00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:40.960 It's funny. I don't remember anything except for him putting 1090 00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:46.159 the mice in his mouth. And I really remember another 1091 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:49.760 Trip movie way better, which is Euro Trip. I thought 1092 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:52.199 that that was great, But yeah, I don't remember road 1093 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:53.079 Trip at all either. 1094 00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:57.440 I love the scene where he's with the construction foreman, 1095 00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.239 whether it's like gonna do stuff at the house and 1096 00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:03.239 they gave me a million dollars and I did this, 1097 00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:07.559 and I did this again. It's this meta commentary on 1098 00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:09.679 the fact that they gave me this money to make 1099 00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:13.000 something they don't know what they're doing, and. 1100 00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:17.679 I spent it on stupid shit, like seven hundred thousand 1101 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:20.360 dollars for a fucking helicopter rental. 1102 00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.679 It's just hilarious to me because it almost feels like 1103 00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:26.400 a commentary on the actual movie again that you're watching, 1104 00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.280 because he's almost like amazed that they gave him the money, 1105 00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.519 much the way that I'm sure Tom Green's I'm amazed 1106 00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:34.920 they gave me this money to just do this. 1107 00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.719 That scene with Anthony Michael Hall. You know, we always 1108 00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:41.800 talk about the end of Bad Lieutenant Port of Call 1109 00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.320 in New Orleans, where it's just like this good thing 1110 00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:46.559 happens and this one and after a while you're just like, 1111 00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:50.639 this is way too much. This is obviously satire. And 1112 00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:53.880 him there with Anthony Michael Hall, he's like, I don't know, 1113 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:56.440 a million dollars. He's like, oh sure, yeah, and like 1114 00:58:56.519 --> 00:58:59.559 write some a check for a million dollars and it 1115 00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:03.039 gets go to the old Gray Bank, where not only 1116 00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:06.000 I imagine Freddy works there, but also the Harley Williams 1117 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:09.599 character works there. As well, and he's just like, you know, yeah, 1118 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:11.760 here's my million dollar check, you know, like cash this 1119 00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:13.920 check for me. And I'm like, you can't just cash 1120 00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:16.360 a million dollar check, Gord. You know, it's it's a 1121 00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:19.280 whole other thing. No matter how much you hump on 1122 00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:20.960 Asian customers. 1123 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:24.880 Stop humping mister Lee. Oh, I know, Anthony Bikerl. Hall 1124 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:28.320 excels it so well. I'm wondering because I saw a 1125 00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:31.039 little clip online of Green. 1126 00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:34.079 I guess Howie Bendel has, of course, having Mendel's a 1127 00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:38.039 podcast and and Tom Green was on a little clip 1128 00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:41.880 I saw was how he Bendell like still be like 1129 00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:46.400 sore because he auditioned for a part in this movie 1130 00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:49.559 and he obviously didn't get it. But in the in 1131 00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:51.960 the clip I saw, they didn't say which character, and 1132 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.599 I'm thinking, I'm thinking it had to have been the 1133 00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:55.920 Anthony Michael Hall. 1134 00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:58.639 Because Mendel's too young for the dad. 1135 00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.199 But he's like a little bit older than Tom Green, 1136 01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:04.199 so him being Harlem Williams wouldn't make sense. 1137 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:05.679 He's definitely not gonna be Freddy. 1138 01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:08.920 No, it seems like that would a word. I mean, 1139 01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:10.920 there's a few roles that we'll talk about after the 1140 01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:14.960 jump that are completely on the cutting room floor. Could 1141 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:16.920 have been one of those. But yeah, no, I don't. 1142 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:21.280 I think him as the radioactive President probably would have 1143 01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:22.119 made a lot of sense. 1144 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:25.599 He's fine, Patry Mindell's fine. He needs to get over it. 1145 01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:28.320 Anthony Michael Hall is great and I love I love 1146 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.079 him in this We get the Drew Barrymore cameo that 1147 01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:33.360 was a little I don't know if it's because we 1148 01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:37.239 know what we know now, that felt a little okay, Tom, 1149 01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:40.159 But I don't know. Heck, if I was him and 1150 01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:42.840 engaged to Drew Barrymore, I probably would have done the 1151 01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:43.320 same thing. 1152 01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.760 But that scene with Drew Barrymore where he comes in 1153 01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.320 and he's I'm looking for the person that he's got 1154 01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:53.199 to think like I'm statute of limitations is run out. 1155 01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:56.039 But I'll admit that I've done things like that as 1156 01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:58.239 a journalist, where I was like trying to track someone 1157 01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:01.679 down and I'd be like looking for the guy, who's 1158 01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:04.519 the guy and you just kind of walk through, Like 1159 01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:08.199 if you act like you belong there, people won't stop you. 1160 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:11.039 You could just walk you just walk right into the scene. 1161 01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:14.519 You can just point out the floor and go Japanese 1162 01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:17.800 or whatever he does to the more security guard. 1163 01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.119 Because I used to have to do that for my job. 1164 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.880 So I was like, right on, I've been there, I understand. 1165 01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:27.760 Were you dressed like an old timey British body? 1166 01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:29.639 No, sadly no. 1167 01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:33.599 Also, I would be sobermiss if I didn't bring this 1168 01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:36.039 up with you guys. The soundtrack in this film. 1169 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:37.760 That was the thing I remember the first time I 1170 01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:41.440 watched this when I heard Problems by the Pistols come 1171 01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:42.280 out immediately, and I. 1172 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:46.400 Was like, oh, hell, yes, now we're talking like this 1173 01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:50.599 ain't no crazy Town or they would have played in 1174 01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.519 this era. And there are a few oh in the Ramones, 1175 01:01:54.199 --> 01:02:00.800 Yeah you have the Ramones, the Dead Kennedy's Agent Orange, Yeah, 1176 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.559 we got Agent or I, and there are a few choices. 1177 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.440 I was like, oh, God, of course we're getting. But 1178 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:09.920 as all the soundtrack's really good, we get the New 1179 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:10.599 York Dolls. 1180 01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:13.679 Yeah, we'll definitely talk about a song that he tried 1181 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:17.000 to get for that section with the New York Dolls, 1182 01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:20.400 but we'll save that one for after the jump. The 1183 01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:22.840 one thing that he said in the commentary that I 1184 01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:25.599 really liked was there's a moment I think where Harlan 1185 01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:29.400 Williams says you can't do that or something. He like 1186 01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:32.639 tells Gord like that that everything is over and like 1187 01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:36.320 it's it's it's done, and then Green was going to 1188 01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:39.519 roll the credits at that moment and then just like 1189 01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:42.039 stop the credits and be like, no, no, it's not over. 1190 01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:44.199 You know, nothing is over kind of thing. Nothing is 1191 01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:46.599 over till we say it is. And I kind of 1192 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:48.599 I almost wish he would have played with the form 1193 01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:51.840 a little more because he's already doing like this kind 1194 01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:56.320 of anti comedy thing and making fun of these other movies. 1195 01:02:57.239 --> 01:02:59.760 But I feel like he could have gone even farther. 1196 01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:00.159 With some of this. 1197 01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.119 I think part of the reason why it works is 1198 01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:07.880 that he's referencing a concept, but not an idea itself. 1199 01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:09.840 And what I mean by that is is that this 1200 01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:12.639 isn't the scary movie franchise where it's like, oh, that's 1201 01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:15.079 a reference to this movie and this person stressed up 1202 01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:19.000 like that. It's it's more of a tone concept of 1203 01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:22.400 the gross out films and the fairly movies and all 1204 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:25.079 that stuff, and he's just taking the piss out of 1205 01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:27.679 it by just jacking it up through the fucking ceiling 1206 01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:31.239 and speaking of jacking things up through the fucking ceiling, 1207 01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:36.039 the whole house thing. So this is where a little 1208 01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:40.760 bit of classic, classic old school comedy comes in with 1209 01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:42.239 his Buster Keaton reference. 1210 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:46.280 Yeah, what an amazing visual of the house on that. 1211 01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:50.559 It's not a stilt, I mean it's one. It's a monopod. 1212 01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:54.360 You know, it's just balanced on there as he's tearing 1213 01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:59.360 ass through obble. You know, definitely not It was booked 1214 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:01.599 like just a big bitch that they dug and put 1215 01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:03.719 a bunch of people in burkas. 1216 01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:08.360 Oh please, you know Bronson Cannon was just like twenty 1217 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:13.559 feet away from I was, oh gods, yeah that and 1218 01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:16.039 you're right, that is like such a like yp Okay, 1219 01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:17.679 now we have a bed Atbuster Keaton. 1220 01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:21.239 They're a little bit of maybe like Hoping Crosby. 1221 01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:22.920 Yeah, it's like a road movie. 1222 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:27.719 Yeah yeah, tiny bit there. But then there's like fake 1223 01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:28.679 elephant semen. 1224 01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.559 I wonder if there was a different title, because okay, 1225 01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:37.440 the title is the line that they like gets gets attention. 1226 01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:41.800 But the thing is it's like his dad really like 1227 01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:44.519 never really brings it up again after they have their 1228 01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:47.519 kind of blowout, and you would think that calling someone 1229 01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:51.639 a pedophile an ancestual pedophile would just be like, all right, 1230 01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:53.719 I'm done with you. Fuck you. I never want to 1231 01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:56.760 talk to you again. And in the end, it's after 1232 01:04:57.400 --> 01:04:59.559 he's got the show and he did, they go on 1233 01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:03.719 the pack stand adventure. Dad's proud, so the goal is met, 1234 01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.559 so it's like never really brought up again, and it's like, oh, 1235 01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:09.639 everything's fine. So I guess maybe that's just a joke 1236 01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:12.000 on comedies that you could do like the worst shit 1237 01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:16.280 the people, and as long as everything happens in the end, 1238 01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:18.800 it's happy. Everything's fucking forgiven. 1239 01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:22.559 Really, Yeah, And even that poor little kid that walks 1240 01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:26.079 into the propeller, you know, you do get to hear 1241 01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:27.199 him go, I'm okay. 1242 01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:30.519 The ad R was a maidic. 1243 01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:35.800 It was that's It's frozen scream, which Eric, if you 1244 01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:38.840 guys have seen this, this horror gem, I just recently 1245 01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:39.320 saw Member. 1246 01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:43.000 So I'm the ADR and nat is a wonder. Call 1247 01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:44.559 it that. It's a wonder. 1248 01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.519 And there you have the father and son relationship too, 1249 01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:52.280 because we keep seeing this kid just get inadvertently abused 1250 01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:53.320 by father. 1251 01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:56.159 That poor kid, like when I have the dietar and 1252 01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:57.400 he's can I happen. 1253 01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:04.039 Just like a cake daddy like that your birthday. 1254 01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:09.480 Of course, it's like this, poor kid and holy shit, okay, 1255 01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:12.880 the same Ripertory does this like weird little Lord Fonterroy 1256 01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.400 accent at the dinner table about the rice. 1257 01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:20.000 Ohoo, little Lord Fontleroy is tell me because there's too 1258 01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:21.599 much roast beef in it. 1259 01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:22.440 This is boring. 1260 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:26.840 I'm eating a chicken scent with Oh you're not. Oh shit, 1261 01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:28.559 this is crazy. I'm a twenty eight year old man. 1262 01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:30.679 I should be able to eat a chicken sandwich if 1263 01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:30.960 I want. 1264 01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:33.159 He's twenty eight years old and he can eat a 1265 01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:34.199 chicken sandwich. 1266 01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:35.119 Very impressive. 1267 01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:39.280 Mike Fitzgiven's son is a nuclear physicist. 1268 01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:45.480 And my son can eat it. No, you can either 1269 01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:47.840 eat that goddamn roast beef. 1270 01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:50.199 Or you can go to bed. Why can I not 1271 01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:51.599 eat a twenty. 1272 01:06:53.400 --> 01:06:53.559 Man? 1273 01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:54.599 I'm twenty eight years old. 1274 01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:58.280 It's the over pronunciation of endings that is the thing 1275 01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:03.280 that I like. Yeah, sandt. 1276 01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:06.280 My belly again. 1277 01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:09.320 So I cannot imagine anybody in this role other than 1278 01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:13.639 rip Tourn. He's so perfect. It's like it was raping him. 1279 01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:17.760 It really feels like That's why I was floored. May 1280 01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:20.960 this the Jeffrey Jones and Gene Wilder. 1281 01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:22.360 Is that true. 1282 01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:25.559 I don't know. It doesn't seem like it could be possible. 1283 01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:28.119 Thank god they didn't put Jeffrey Jones in it, because 1284 01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:31.760 but yeah, I mean, like it's bizarre just. 1285 01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:32.599 The list of people. 1286 01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:35.199 And I'm like this was written even if it wasn't 1287 01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.239 intentionally written for rip Torn, there was some cosmic lattice 1288 01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:41.599 work going on where it's Ripturn's role, like he's going 1289 01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:43.119 to do this and he's going to own it. 1290 01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:45.960 I can't even think of who could play this role. 1291 01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:49.199 The only other way that you could go is I'm 1292 01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:52.960 thinking of when Herzog was into Harmony Karn movies, like 1293 01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:55.039 that would be the only way it would be, like 1294 01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:56.599 you need someone like that. 1295 01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:01.559 There is one person, ironically, I almost don't want to 1296 01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.440 mention because I know he's in the deleted Saints, So 1297 01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:04.679 I almost wonder if I should save this. 1298 01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:06.679 But if we're bringing it now, I will say, if 1299 01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:11.280 anybody has seen Joe Flaherty's Kirk Douglas impersonation Kirk, what 1300 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:11.920 on earth. 1301 01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:14.239 Would you do with a child like this, I'll tell 1302 01:08:14.280 --> 01:08:17.399 you what I'd do. I'd take her and butter Cross money. 1303 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:22.039 Then I'd give her a good log, hearty good. 1304 01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:28.319 I'm a massive Joe Flaherty fan, but I'll save that 1305 01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:31.520 for a deleted part, but I will say Joe Flaherty 1306 01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:34.319 on Kirk Douglas energy could have come close. 1307 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:36.960 I really do think that, yeah, because he's. 1308 01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:39.640 Kind of doing that a little bit in one crazy summer. 1309 01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:41.560 If memory serves, Oh my. 1310 01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:42.640 God, I love let me. 1311 01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:46.079 I'd like to call him my friend. But I would 1312 01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:47.039 be alart. 1313 01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:50.680 Because Flaherty really could do that, just like he had 1314 01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:54.000 Dad energy already, and he could do that just really 1315 01:08:54.199 --> 01:08:57.039 hyper funny, angry voice. 1316 01:08:57.359 --> 01:08:59.880 I would Kirk would have been too young at this juncture. 1317 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:01.039 Job Odaker could do that. 1318 01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:03.920 Now let's go ahead and we're going to take a break, 1319 01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:06.520 and we'll be back with an interview with producer Lauren 1320 01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:10.439 Lloyd right after these brief messages. 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Before 1328 01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.439 we start talking about Freddie got fingered, I'm so curious, 1329 01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:37.600 how did you get your start in the business, because 1330 01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:39.640 I know that you were a casting director for a while, 1331 01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:41.720 and then did you do acting as well? 1332 01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:42.600 Now? 1333 01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:47.079 I went to Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh after high school, 1334 01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:50.119 and I really always wanted to be an actress. I thought, Hey, 1335 01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:53.359 my big face should be up there. And then when 1336 01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:56.720 I was applying to audition there, I thought, everyone, all 1337 01:09:56.840 --> 01:09:59.840 women actually are going to be auditioning to be act 1338 01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:02.880 So I'm going to say I want to be a director, 1339 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:05.399 and somehow I'll trick them and they'll let me in. 1340 01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:06.720 And I did. 1341 01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.520 I got in as a director. So then I started 1342 01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:12.039 seeing another side of things, not just acting. And after 1343 01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:17.479 a graduation, I moved to Massachusetts and I worked with 1344 01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:20.720 the American division of the Royal Shakespeare Company and I 1345 01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:23.000 did some directing there, and then I came to Hollywood, 1346 01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:25.239 and I you didn't try to figure it all out, 1347 01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:27.239 you know, It's like there's no rules there. So I 1348 01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:30.119 just thought casting seemed like a good way in, and 1349 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.039 then I figured it out from there. I mean, my 1350 01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:35.479 first movie was Mermaids and it was my sister who 1351 01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:39.840 sent me the book and I went to a casting 1352 01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:43.079 associate of mine, Wale Nsita at the time, because she 1353 01:10:43.159 --> 01:10:45.760 knew everybody, everybody famous, and I thought, oh, I'll find 1354 01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:49.960 a writer and she'll find a star and we'll make movies. 1355 01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:54.760 And then we did. It worked out good. So that's 1356 01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:58.600 how honestly, you know, my very first job was selling 1357 01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:01.960 cars out in la I had no idea what was what. 1358 01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:04.760 I just moved out and was like, oh, and I 1359 01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:06.680 didn't have a car. So I thought, oh, you know what, 1360 01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:10.000 I'm going to get a job selling cars, nice ones, 1361 01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:14.159 and I'll sell them to famous Hollywood people and they'll 1362 01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:17.479 like me and give me a job. And it almost 1363 01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:20.279 worked like that. But I walked down to a place 1364 01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:22.520 called Room and BMW and I said I'm here to 1365 01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:25.359 sell cars, and they were just like, it's the early eighties. 1366 01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:29.119 Women don't sell cars. And I never thought about that anyway. 1367 01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:33.439 I persevered, got a gig there, sold a car to 1368 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:37.079 an agent who said, oh, come work for me, and 1369 01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:38.079 off we went. 1370 01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:41.840 It was the eighties and then into the nineties. Did 1371 01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:45.000 you run into a lot of sexism in your different positions. 1372 01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:49.039 Oh always, it was yeah, always. Do you know what 1373 01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:49.520 was weird? 1374 01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:49.760 Is that? 1375 01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:53.079 Or maybe not weird? Well, it was just those sexists 1376 01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.720 from the very very beginning. Because when Walie Nasda and 1377 01:11:56.800 --> 01:12:00.720 I started producing, this is before I became a studio 1378 01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:04.600 executive that went off with another production company to make Freddy, 1379 01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:10.239 there was only like Deborah Hill and there was only 1380 01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:14.640 one other producer's team, and so people could not figure 1381 01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:17.359 it out. I remember when we started finding writers and 1382 01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:20.520 you know, selling scripts and stuff. It was Mike Ovitz 1383 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:22.640 at CIA called Wally and I in and said, who 1384 01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:26.199 are you guys? How are you doing things without these 1385 01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:29.119 scripts coming over my transom. He used that word and 1386 01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:32.279 I thought, that's a curious word. It was interesting. So 1387 01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:37.039 when that me Too movement started, it was so shocking 1388 01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:40.119 as a woman, I think, to be in Hollywood at 1389 01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:43.960 that time and see, we know all this stuff. You 1390 01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:45.640 know what I mean to sexism or what's going on 1391 01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:48.359 to the power curve, or we just know what goes on. 1392 01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:50.520 We know we're not a part of it. We know 1393 01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:53.479 that there's another group. But when it came forth, it 1394 01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:57.239 was like the inner structure of Hollywood kind of fell apart. 1395 01:12:57.920 --> 01:12:58.159 It was. 1396 01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:01.000 It was shocking. Actually, it was shocking to a lot 1397 01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.960 of women. We were just like, okay, wait now they 1398 01:13:04.039 --> 01:13:08.560 can see what's going on. This is really a wild time. Yeah. 1399 01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:09.399 So there's that. 1400 01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:14.159 You worked on a huge variety of films over the years, 1401 01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:15.840 and I'm so curious. What were some of the favorite 1402 01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:17.760 ones that you worked on. Oh. 1403 01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:22.359 I liked the very first one, Mermaids. I love that 1404 01:13:23.239 --> 01:13:26.079 because it was our first foray into making a movie, 1405 01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:29.239 and you know, we discovered Christina Ricci. It was just 1406 01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:33.199 a blast, and working with Cher was really remarkable, and 1407 01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:36.239 it was Wally and I leading the way in a 1408 01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:39.479 creative way, and we didn't have any judgment about what 1409 01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:41.680 we were doing, so we felt very free to just 1410 01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:44.800 you know, go with a vision. I mean it was 1411 01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:49.159 difficult because we went through a lot of directors, a 1412 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:52.119 couple of stars, but you know, we found our way. Anyway. 1413 01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:56.279 I love that. I loved doing Unstrung Heroes with Diane Keaton. 1414 01:13:57.079 --> 01:14:04.319 She was really amazing, really unbelievably clever and creative and 1415 01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:09.039 you know she uh, she was just great. I mean 1416 01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:13.039 she really made a Valentine to mothers. I think the 1417 01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:16.560 Armstrong Heroes what else. I love working with me more. 1418 01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.079 I did three movies with her. I had just a 1419 01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:24.119 blast in my life. Anyway, Freddy got fingered was a 1420 01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:28.439 real unusual turn of events. I was a studio exec 1421 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:33.479 at Hollywood Pictures and I believe that. Well, first of all, 1422 01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:37.079 Tom Green was the rage in the nineteen nineties. I 1423 01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:40.279 mean he was just the shock and gross out king 1424 01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:43.439 of MTV, and all the studios of that time really 1425 01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:46.520 wanted to harness like the audience of MTV in a 1426 01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:50.640 more significant way. So he was like the ironic punk 1427 01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:52.600 gross and everybody out. I remember him as like the 1428 01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:57.159 dude who was who had a microphone and dog poop 1429 01:14:57.199 --> 01:15:00.279 at the end of it interviewing people and I've this 1430 01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:04.159 is disgusting, and he had very intriguing So anyway, it 1431 01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:06.840 was developed there wanted to turnaround from Disney. I think 1432 01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:09.680 it was Joe Roth who who developed it, and it 1433 01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:12.479 came by the way of Joe's good friend Larry Bresner 1434 01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:17.439 at MBST. And Larry has since passed away, but he 1435 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:19.840 was the guy who said, what do you think of 1436 01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:24.039 Tom Green? And we were excited. Everybody wanted this project. 1437 01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:26.119 By the way, we were excited that we had the 1438 01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:28.720 ability to get it because he was such a huge star, 1439 01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:31.960 and he was so we never met anyone like him, 1440 01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:34.439 and he was such a creative force and such a 1441 01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:36.239 frightening guy. I have to say in a way that 1442 01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:41.000 he basically made everyone feel super uncomfortable. So it was 1443 01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:43.560 a real interesting balance of knowing that this is a 1444 01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:48.199 really creative guy feeling uncomfortable, wanting to as a producer 1445 01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:54.279 facilitate and support his vision, which was very difficult. What 1446 01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:57.359 was so difficult about it, Well, he kept going further 1447 01:15:57.439 --> 01:15:59.399 and further and further. I mean his idea was that 1448 01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:02.680 he just I just want to see how far I 1449 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:05.960 can go? Because it was like Tom Green's greatest hits, 1450 01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:08.119 How bizarre can I be? How wild can I be? 1451 01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:11.800 It wasn't like political or it was just his stuff, 1452 01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:15.960 his weird, gross out, disgusting stuff. Watching it again now 1453 01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:20.680 I look back and think what. Quite frankly, I think, 1454 01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:24.720 how in the world did this come into being? How 1455 01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:27.359 did Fox give us the money? I remember when we 1456 01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:29.800 were working on there were two issues that we were 1457 01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:34.680 working with. One was, okay, we have this crazy script 1458 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:37.119 that was not quite developed yet. We worked on developing it. 1459 01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:40.960 But these crazy stirring of events and we thought, well, 1460 01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:43.760 who's going to direct this? So we met with a 1461 01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:45.640 lot of directors. There was a lot of interest, but 1462 01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.960 Tom always really knew visually what he wanted to do. 1463 01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:51.319 So you have to respect that. 1464 01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:52.880 You have to say, okay, he sees it like this, 1465 01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:55.279 you know, the point of view is like this, the 1466 01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.960 actors are going to be like that. And so he 1467 01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:00.840 ended up directing it. Larry I decided that we were 1468 01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.880 just going to give him the reins and see if 1469 01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:06.760 we can control it at all. But it's interesting because 1470 01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:08.880 I thought this is a very very low budget movie. 1471 01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:10.479 I mean, if we get a couple of million bucks, 1472 01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:13.399 let's go be wild and see what happens. And we 1473 01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:16.520 got a lot of dough. I was stunned. I was 1474 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:18.800 just like, we're not going to Pakistan, I mean what. 1475 01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:24.159 So anyway, it was that it was figuring out how 1476 01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:28.279 to support his creative vision, be the go between between 1477 01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:33.439 him and Fox and keeping reins on creatively what he 1478 01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:35.920 wanted to do. It was very busy. 1479 01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:39.399 Was he always on mostly? 1480 01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:43.399 There was also mostly you know, and that was his shtick. 1481 01:17:43.479 --> 01:17:44.359 He was his stick. 1482 01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:46.359 The whole point of me was trying to figure out 1483 01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.159 what wasn't that. What was interesting is that we used 1484 01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:52.720 to run lines all the time and there were moments 1485 01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.199 there that I could see who he was. And he 1486 01:17:55.319 --> 01:17:59.039 also was with Drew Barrymore, and I thought that was 1487 01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:02.520 a wild experience. Like, Okay, Drew, who's, you know, very 1488 01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:06.479 grounded and has her roots in Hollywood for generations, and 1489 01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:10.920 Tom Green, this kind of irascible Canadian. He was real 1490 01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:13.920 around her, and his best friends were working with him, 1491 01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:18.119 Sean and Derek Harvey, and he really trusted them, and 1492 01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:19.760 they were in the movie and they were co writing 1493 01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:21.239 and they were really supported to him. 1494 01:18:22.159 --> 01:18:23.720 Yeah, you said you were kind of going back and 1495 01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:26.920 forth between the production and Fox. I mean, was there 1496 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:29.520 any concerns by Fox or are they just like this 1497 01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:31.520 is the biggest thing since sliced. 1498 01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:32.079 Bread, Go Go Go. 1499 01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:37.359 Well, it was also Regency who was the financier. I 1500 01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:40.479 don't really know what their deal was with Fox, but 1501 01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:44.479 it was arn On Milshawn who ran Regency, and he 1502 01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:49.079 was very intrigued with the heat of this young comic. 1503 01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.439 We all were, we were all under the Tom Green spell. 1504 01:18:53.079 --> 01:18:53.319 Okay. 1505 01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:55.199 It was also a bunch of let's say older people 1506 01:18:55.239 --> 01:18:57.800 who didn't quite understand the MTV, you know what this 1507 01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:00.000 gross out humor was, and we didn't want to stuff 1508 01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:02.279 on his toes and you could see we didn't. 1509 01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:04.079 I seem to. 1510 01:19:04.079 --> 01:19:06.840 Remember there was a behind the scenes documentary that's on 1511 01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:09.399 the DVD and there's at least one clip with you 1512 01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:13.840 and it where it's the finer points of dealing with 1513 01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:15.479 a erect horse. 1514 01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:19.880 Oh my godness, How on earth did do you make 1515 01:19:19.960 --> 01:19:21.439 it through this situation? 1516 01:19:22.439 --> 01:19:23.720 I have to say that there were a lot of 1517 01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:26.439 other crazy personal things going on in my life, which 1518 01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:32.319 include rescuing Anne Hash from you know, institution and anyway 1519 01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:35.000 in California. You know, I mean I was managing her, 1520 01:19:35.399 --> 01:19:37.800 so I left that. I think it was the day 1521 01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:41.000 after I was mostly I want to say, in shock, 1522 01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:42.760 how did I get through it? I just got through it. 1523 01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:44.479 I mean I was there in my trailer. I didn't 1524 01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:49.960 go out and like witness physical attributes. But it was 1525 01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:53.039 just another crazy day on the set with Tom Green. 1526 01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:57.479 What were some of your either more shocking or favorite 1527 01:19:57.520 --> 01:19:58.479 memories from the shoot. 1528 01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:05.479 There was a really sweet moments with Tom and Julie 1529 01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:08.399 Haggerty talking about why do you let him do this? 1530 01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:12.920 And kind of the anger that Tom felt about his father. 1531 01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:15.079 He would talk about that sometimes and that would come out. 1532 01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:17.720 There was also a lot of stuff that was cut 1533 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:19.880 from the cheese factory and the cheese dipping and the 1534 01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:22.640 Native American stuff. There was a lot of really touching 1535 01:20:22.920 --> 01:20:28.319 but also bizarre stuff that was cut. But I liked 1536 01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:32.479 being up in Canada. I loved the group of actors 1537 01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:34.840 that we assembled. You know, yes, some good act was there. 1538 01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:40.159 Yeah, I know that that's amazing. I know I know 1539 01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:43.119 that other names were thrown around before Rip Torn came in, 1540 01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:45.520 but I can't see anybody else playing that role. 1541 01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:50.760 He was so bombastic. He was so I agree because 1542 01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:53.760 he could be so bizarre and menacing and there it 1543 01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:57.560 was just he was perfect. He was the perfect opposition 1544 01:20:57.720 --> 01:20:58.680 to Tom. 1545 01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:04.000 Yeah, he didn't my best going through all of the trailers, 1546 01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:06.720 the behind the scenes, all of these things, trying to 1547 01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:10.680 put together what this movie was. At some point, because 1548 01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:13.479 you mentioned more at the cheese factory, Yeah, there's a 1549 01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:16.439 shot right at the end, like in the outtakes at 1550 01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:19.159 the end, where it's two people rising up out of 1551 01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:21.840 a vat of cheese, and I don't know what the 1552 01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:24.880 circumstances are around that at all. 1553 01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:28.800 I think that was Stephen Tobolowski. I think you might 1554 01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:31.920 have been cut from the whole movie, because there it 1555 01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:35.520 was really weirdly coming of age story, if you can 1556 01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:39.680 imagine about a kid who wanted to peddle his animated 1557 01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:44.520 goods in Hollywood absurdly so trying to I mean, this 1558 01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:47.359 is how many years ago do we do this? Twenty five? 1559 01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:49.960 For a long time ago, I didn't go back and 1560 01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:54.199 see I don't even remember seeing the outtakes of the 1561 01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:58.359 interviews from the original release of the DVD or. 1562 01:21:58.439 --> 01:21:59.239 Blu ray whatever. 1563 01:22:00.039 --> 01:22:01.840 Well, I was curious, what was the premiere, Like. 1564 01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:04.079 Boy, I don't even remember the premiere. 1565 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:04.680 How could that be? 1566 01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:08.319 I don't remember it. Maybe I missed it. Sorry, I 1567 01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:09.000 don't remember. 1568 01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:13.600 I personally like this movie, and I see a lot 1569 01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:15.520 of merit in it, but I know that at the 1570 01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:21.880 time it was so lambasted and very wealthy, right one, 1571 01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:23.720 A ton of razsies from what I understand. 1572 01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:26.840 Yeah, we did the job, Yeah you did, Yeah you swept, 1573 01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:27.880 did we? 1574 01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:29.159 Yeah? 1575 01:22:29.279 --> 01:22:29.479 Yeah? 1576 01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:32.479 And then Tom actually went to the ceremony and played 1577 01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:34.720 a harmonica solo that was so long that they had 1578 01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:36.079 to drag him off of the stage. 1579 01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:37.960 That is so like him. 1580 01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:42.359 When did you know that this was being considered as 1581 01:22:42.439 --> 01:22:45.039 such a bomb, and did that have any adverse effects 1582 01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:45.279 for you? 1583 01:22:46.359 --> 01:22:46.960 No, it didn't. 1584 01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:49.520 Every time you make a movie and it's released, you're 1585 01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:53.640 back at ground zero. So no, this was no more 1586 01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:57.960 difficult than making any other movie. I always stood by 1587 01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:00.680 the movie. I always thought that it's original, you will, 1588 01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:04.880 it's unforgettable. We are going to distance, we are representing 1589 01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:07.079 an artist's point of view, and I believe in that. 1590 01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:10.199 I watched it again and I was like, what again, 1591 01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:14.520 I was thinking that, But yeah, I remember talking to 1592 01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:17.600 an executive from Hollywood Pictures who I believe was or 1593 01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:20.039 I think was touched on, who was the person who 1594 01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:21.520 had developed it, and they didn't know what to do 1595 01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:23.720 with it, and they gave it back, and the trailers 1596 01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:25.600 started coming out, and I can't remember who we opened 1597 01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:28.760 it up against, but they were saying, like, what do 1598 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:30.560 you think. I said, we're going to do great because 1599 01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:33.399 I just believe it, and he was just like what really? 1600 01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:35.760 And I said great. I said it's funny and bizarre. 1601 01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:39.439 And then when the reviews started coming back, I thought, oh, 1602 01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:41.439 they're not seeing it or I didn't see it. But 1603 01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:43.880 I felt like I did my job, you know, and 1604 01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:47.399 that's really what it's about. Some of the comments. There 1605 01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:49.960 was one comment if I remember that, first of all, 1606 01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:55.520 they were across the board horrible, and so I thought, well, 1607 01:23:55.560 --> 01:23:58.760 we did something right, but we didn't do also something right, 1608 01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:02.520 that there was a comparison to like original Monty Python 1609 01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:06.279 and the kind of the absurdist humor there. But now 1610 01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:09.640 I hear it's a cold classic. It's like a postmodernist masterpiece, 1611 01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:13.680 like Tom is secretly a genius. I have no idea. 1612 01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:18.239 I read a few college dissertations about it, did you. Yeah, 1613 01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:21.840 A couple of people at least have used this as 1614 01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:22.640 their thesis. 1615 01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:26.159 Really and why is that? Because why? 1616 01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:29.760 I think it's the absurdism they come at it from, 1617 01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:36.439 either neo surrealism or just kind of like existential crisis, 1618 01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:38.600 especially with all the stuff around his father. 1619 01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:40.840 That's really what grabbed me too. 1620 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:42.840 I can't believe it. 1621 01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:46.720 Yeah, it was just a crazy time. I remember Harlan Williams. 1622 01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:49.800 He was fun that whole but and I also remember 1623 01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:53.880 how dazzling it was that well Tom Green could skateboard, 1624 01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:56.920 and how dazzling that all that whole culture was. 1625 01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:01.560 I love Harlan Williams. I thought Anthony Michael Hall knocked 1626 01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:03.399 it out of the park. I felt like a lot 1627 01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:06.239 of that was very ad libed watching it, and it 1628 01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:08.279 felt like he was just going along with Green. 1629 01:25:10.319 --> 01:25:13.840 Yeah, he was a powerful force. I don't really know 1630 01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:15.720 what happened with Tom. I know that he went on 1631 01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.279 to do road Trip, and I know he was very 1632 01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:23.479 interested in like Brian Grazier's and certain producers. 1633 01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:23.920 But I don't really know. 1634 01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:27.439 I think he got a a podcast again, or of 1635 01:25:28.359 --> 01:25:29.560 YouTube something. I don't know. 1636 01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:32.760 Yeah, I think he's podcasting from a place up in Canada. 1637 01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:35.640 He moved back up to close to Ottawa, close to 1638 01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:36.279 his hometown. 1639 01:25:37.479 --> 01:25:38.479 I got to check that out. 1640 01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:40.479 How about you, What are you working on these days? 1641 01:25:41.079 --> 01:25:44.039 I am working on something that I think is spectacular. 1642 01:25:44.600 --> 01:25:47.359 And I thought I was retired, but apparently I'm not. 1643 01:25:48.359 --> 01:25:52.199 I have another home that's down here in Florida, in Sarasota, 1644 01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:58.319 there's a tiny fishing village called Cortez, and my helme 1645 01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:00.800 is like right across the water from there. And during 1646 01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:03.680 the nineteen seventies, there was more marijuana smuggle through that 1647 01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:07.159 tiny town than anywhere else in America, and it was 1648 01:26:07.239 --> 01:26:11.479 all done by sixteen year olds and the dea and 1649 01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:16.920 the ATF was founded or formed in relation to many 1650 01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:22.439 smuggling acts, but mostly because of these boys. And they 1651 01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:26.319 smuggled in so much weed and it went. And the 1652 01:26:26.399 --> 01:26:29.640 way they did it was they took a twenty three 1653 01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:33.399 foot boat, four of them, down to Jamaica with a 1654 01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:35.439 little bit of food and water and a Sears and 1655 01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:39.079 Roebuck trash compactor, so if they found weed, they would 1656 01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:41.920 compact it and put a lot on the boat. And 1657 01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:46.079 they did anyway, So they were part of the Steenhatchie seven, 1658 01:26:46.119 --> 01:26:49.319 which was the biggest. Walter Cronkite labeled them the steam 1659 01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:51.600 Hatchie seven. It was the biggest drug bus in America, 1660 01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:54.720 four and a half million dollars and nine tons. And 1661 01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:57.640 then you know it was a wild adventure. But actually 1662 01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:01.319 on the last day of Clinton's president, see, he pardoned 1663 01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:04.399 our last guy who got life in prison for growing weed. 1664 01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:06.800 So anyway, so that's what I'm working on. I got 1665 01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:08.920 my writer director and we just put together a look 1666 01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:10.520 book and off we go. 1667 01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:14.159 Wow, that is great. I'm so glad that that's happening. 1668 01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:18.279 I got the life rights to the last remaining smuggler 1669 01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:20.880 and his name is Junior Guthrie. I mean what a 1670 01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:25.720 great name. Also, so he's seventy eight, and those boys 1671 01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:28.239 were just wild, wild wild. 1672 01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:32.239 I love the whole crash compactor thing. That's fantastic, go 1673 01:27:32.399 --> 01:27:32.560 do I. 1674 01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:35.479 And all of it was like that because they were fishermen. 1675 01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:37.359 I mean, they worked their asses off and they were 1676 01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:40.840 so poor, and you know, their fathers and their grandfathers 1677 01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:42.560 all fished. And then there was a law pass that 1678 01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:45.039 they can't fish the way they had been fishing, so 1679 01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:49.359 it really broke the back of commercial fishing. The boys thought, well, 1680 01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:52.680 what are we going to do? And they became multimillionaires. 1681 01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:55.800 They literally they had parties. They bought an island and 1682 01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:58.199 they would have parties were Jimmy Buffett and the Almond 1683 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:01.840 brothers would come. And Buffett wrote this song, a Pirate 1684 01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.880 Looks at forty. He co wrote it, even though it's 1685 01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:07.439 not talked about by my lead smuggler Michael, who was 1686 01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:10.520 eventually killed by the cartel. But it's the wildless story 1687 01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:14.479 ever I believe. But yeah, Mike Knights murdered by the 1688 01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:17.760 cartel and Mike White, I thought you were the Mike 1689 01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:21.359 White I know from La you know, the my White 1690 01:28:21.439 --> 01:28:22.600 loadeds like White. 1691 01:28:22.840 --> 01:28:24.079 Oh yeah, I get that. 1692 01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:24.439 A lot. 1693 01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:27.600 I think it helps get me interview sometimes, but very nice. 1694 01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:29.920 Okay, well, I hope I told you stuff that. 1695 01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:33.439 Was good and new. I don't know absolutely did. I 1696 01:28:33.920 --> 01:28:35.640 really appreciate this and I appreciate your. 1697 01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:39.319 Time, my pleasure, and I'm thrilled to talk with you. 1698 01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:39.680 Thank you. 1699 01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:57.239 All Right, we were back and we were talking about 1700 01:28:57.279 --> 01:29:00.840 Freddy Got Fingered and another comedy trope that this movie 1701 01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:03.960 does that we were seeing a lot in this era 1702 01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:09.600 were outtakes during the credits, and that relies a lot 1703 01:29:09.680 --> 01:29:15.119 of scenes that we obviously saw some references there, but 1704 01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:17.840 then a lot of scenes we didn't see. And I've 1705 01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:21.680 found it pretty amazing that, I mean, Tom Green was 1706 01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:25.039 doing the same thing that Parker and Stone were doing 1707 01:29:25.319 --> 01:29:28.600 right around the same time, I think, where they were 1708 01:29:28.800 --> 01:29:33.880 providing much longer cuts to the MPAA knowing that a 1709 01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:36.199 lot of stuff was going to get cut out, so 1710 01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:38.600 they would basically have things where they're like, we are 1711 01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:41.439 almost including this in the movie, knowing that it's going 1712 01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:43.399 to get cut out, so that we can sneak another 1713 01:29:43.520 --> 01:29:46.600 joke in that won't get cut out. But it's really 1714 01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:50.600 interesting to look at the deleted scenes and then kind 1715 01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:53.960 of piecing things together via There was a behind the 1716 01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:58.880 scenes special. It's on the DVD. There were previews obviously, 1717 01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:02.039 and you get to see these bits and trying to 1718 01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:05.039 kind of reform what this movie was, because it sounds 1719 01:30:05.079 --> 01:30:07.640 like he turned in a two hour version of the film, 1720 01:30:08.319 --> 01:30:11.520 and what we get is what one hour and twenty 1721 01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:12.359 three minutes. 1722 01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:17.079 No, it's a short, especially in this age where popcorn 1723 01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:19.840 movies or almost three hours long. This film, I was like, God, 1724 01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:21.880 it's not even ninety I don't even think it's quite 1725 01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:22.399 ninety minutes. 1726 01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:23.439 I think it's eighty seven. 1727 01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:27.880 It's quick. I'm actually glad that it's not two hours, 1728 01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:31.680 because I'm a firm believer of John Waters maxim that 1729 01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:36.760 all comedies should be ninety minutes or less because one 1730 01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:38.720 of the most painful things, and I love this guy. 1731 01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:41.199 I went and saw Mark Marin when he was like 1732 01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:45.159 testing stuff for a new special, and it was like 1733 01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:47.520 a two hour stand up set and it was getting 1734 01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:50.600 hard to sit there and try to laugh. It was 1735 01:30:50.680 --> 01:30:54.319 like I was laughed out. So I like, there's part 1736 01:30:54.359 --> 01:30:57.960 of me that realized from that experience. While it was good, 1737 01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:00.399 it wasn't. I was like, man, this thing, well, this 1738 01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:02.439 is going on too long, so I'm glad that it 1739 01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:05.560 got condensed, but there is a lot of stuff in 1740 01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:09.840 here that feels choppy. But then again, I'm the guy 1741 01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:12.359 who said, you can't really watch this is a straight narrative, 1742 01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:13.840 So what do I know. 1743 01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:17.159 Yeah, like the stuff at the farm, you get to 1744 01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:21.800 see more of that, like him suckling milk right out 1745 01:31:21.840 --> 01:31:24.279 of a teat of a cow. Again, I think was 1746 01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:27.560 part of the show as well. I talked about how 1747 01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:31.079 abbreviated the beginning of this movie was, and that's because 1748 01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:37.960 when Gordon moves from Oregon to Oregon down to Hollywood, 1749 01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:42.039 not California, about Hollywood. He is staying with his uncle, 1750 01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:45.439 and his uncle is played by Stephen Tobolowski, and there's 1751 01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:49.119 like a whole subplot of stuff. And that was another 1752 01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:52.239 thing on the DVD was deleted scenes. Unfortunately, Tom talks 1753 01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:55.279 over the deleted scenes. You don't get them just with 1754 01:31:55.479 --> 01:31:59.079 the natural audio and the ability to toggle on. As 1755 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:01.680 far as I know, maybe I just ripped it incorrectly, 1756 01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:04.960 but I had him talking over those scenes, and it 1757 01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:08.760 was interesting to see Tobolowski. He's this gay uncle and 1758 01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:14.239 uncle Neil, and he's there with this Native American gentleman. 1759 01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:17.640 I think he's called Big Bear. And there's just a 1760 01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:20.079 lot too. We were talking about gay jokes. That's where 1761 01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:23.319 the gay jokes were. That was all him, like oh yeah, well, 1762 01:32:23.319 --> 01:32:26.760 and it was basically treated very respectfully. It was just like, okay, 1763 01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:29.439 you know, Ford, you gotta go now, like you gotta 1764 01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:32.479 you can sleep in my room. I'm gonna make love 1765 01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:34.880 with this man right now. And he's the one who 1766 01:32:34.960 --> 01:32:39.279 runs the cheese factory, cheese sandwich factory, so he is 1767 01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:42.039 the one that got him his job. He's at the 1768 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:45.560 cheese factory and another scene and Gord comes in. He's 1769 01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:47.720 just like, oh, Gord, I'm so glad you can make it. 1770 01:32:48.199 --> 01:32:51.079 You know, it's noon. You really should have been here earlier. 1771 01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:55.319 That's why you see all the people leaving from their job, 1772 01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:58.359 because I think like the shift is over for them. 1773 01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:00.960 It's pretty much just starting for him and he's losing 1774 01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:03.840 his mind. Also, in the deleted scenes, you see two 1775 01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:06.439 people coming up from a cheese vat. I'm not exactly 1776 01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:09.239 sure where that plays into the narrative, but that was 1777 01:33:09.279 --> 01:33:12.880 another thing going on with the cheese factory. He talks 1778 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:17.159 on the commentary that you actually saw he shot the 1779 01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:19.800 scene of him going to a costume shop and picking 1780 01:33:19.880 --> 01:33:23.920 up the Bobby uniform. Again, we don't need that stuff 1781 01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:26.640 for that, it can just go past that. But then 1782 01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:30.000 you also see him coming back to the factory after 1783 01:33:30.520 --> 01:33:33.760 Anthony Michael Hall gives him his advice and he's super sad. 1784 01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:37.000 And that's also where he quits his job at the 1785 01:33:37.119 --> 01:33:39.960 cheese sandwich factory and decides he's going to go back 1786 01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:43.520 to Portland. So that stuff, and also there's one more 1787 01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:46.720 scene that ties into another deleted scene I'll talk about later, 1788 01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:52.439 which is Neil. Uncle Neil calls Gord's dad and you 1789 01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:55.239 see rip Torn on a boat. He's got a boat 1790 01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:58.000 and he's out on a lake and that boat comes 1791 01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:00.960 back in another deleted scene. Just get a little bit 1792 01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:04.760 of that. So by eliminating well, they eliminated the boat 1793 01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:08.039 and they eliminated Uncle Neil. So like that is a 1794 01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:11.840 very clean subplot to have removed, and I don't feel 1795 01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:15.039 like it's missing that much. There's a lot more with 1796 01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:17.319 his cheese helmet, and I don't even know if you 1797 01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:19.359 get the I think you get the cheese helmet just 1798 01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:22.159 in the deleted scene, but you see him like take 1799 01:34:22.239 --> 01:34:25.159 off the cheese helmet when all the old ladies, the 1800 01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:28.560 dour old ladies who were instructed to not smile at 1801 01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:30.800 all when they're leaving their shift. 1802 01:34:31.159 --> 01:34:33.399 That explains why he didn't get fired for all of 1803 01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:36.399 his standing up on the conveyor belt with the salami 1804 01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:41.079 going I'm his sexy boy ding dong. I'm like, yeah, 1805 01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:44.479 hr would be on you faster than flies on a 1806 01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:45.600 picnic today. 1807 01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:49.760 Yeah, we were robbed the Joe Flaherty that and get 1808 01:34:49.880 --> 01:34:54.000 Domra I agree completely. This film does that did not 1809 01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:55.880 need to be any longer than it is. It's a 1810 01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:59.000 perfect It should be more comedies need to be this short. 1811 01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:00.600 John Wall, what is right? 1812 01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:04.039 Joe Flaherty I think is one of our greatest unsung 1813 01:35:05.039 --> 01:35:08.159 comedic actors. And it's it's weird to sandsung because he 1814 01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:10.920 he got so much. He did so much great work 1815 01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:14.119 and was always very much active until kind of towards 1816 01:35:14.159 --> 01:35:16.399 the end that I just I feel like he's always 1817 01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:20.439 really underrated. I think people took Joe Flerty for granted. 1818 01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:23.079 You know, out of the whole SETV crew, he seems 1819 01:35:23.119 --> 01:35:25.319 to be the one that didn't hit as well as 1820 01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:28.159 the rest of them. Martin Short and John Candy and 1821 01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:33.159 then I'd say, Eugene Levy really has beens when the 1822 01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:35.680 past ten years has gotten his respect. 1823 01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:40.000 But yeah, I mean really again since American Pie and 1824 01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:42.439 that just sent him into the stratosphere. 1825 01:35:42.840 --> 01:35:46.319 It seemed like most of them on SETV, you know, 1826 01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:50.439 except for Flarity blew up. And I don't know really 1827 01:35:50.479 --> 01:35:53.479 what held him back or most of my friends who 1828 01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:55.680 did not know SCTV like I knew it as a 1829 01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:58.479 kid growing up in Detroit Channel nine. We got CBC 1830 01:35:58.640 --> 01:36:00.840 and Detroit so we would get the sec TV reruns. 1831 01:36:01.640 --> 01:36:03.760 I always loved him as Count Floyd and you know, 1832 01:36:04.720 --> 01:36:07.720 Guy Cavaliero and all the other characters that he had 1833 01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:11.239 on there, Sammy Maudlin. But the thing was, it's like 1834 01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:13.319 most of my friends only knew him as the guy 1835 01:36:13.359 --> 01:36:15.319 who heckels Happy Gilmore. 1836 01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:18.439 You will not make this Putt Jackass. 1837 01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:20.680 Oh weird, weird. 1838 01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:23.479 They didn't even know him because he was on Freaks 1839 01:36:23.520 --> 01:36:26.239 and Geeks one crazy summer. 1840 01:36:26.319 --> 01:36:29.239 You mentioned that he's even followed that Bird, the Big 1841 01:36:29.359 --> 01:36:30.000 Bird movie. 1842 01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:34.720 I got exposed to him. Do you guys remember there 1843 01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:38.159 being a cartoon on Oh God, what is that character? 1844 01:36:38.199 --> 01:36:40.960 I must say that Martin Shirke find my blanking on 1845 01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:43.800 that Thank you. There was an Ed Grimley cartoon from 1846 01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:46.439 a Hot Minute in the eighties and I loved it. 1847 01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:49.760 I was probably the only kid watching it. They had 1848 01:36:49.880 --> 01:36:53.680 live bits where Flaherty would come into Count Floyd and 1849 01:36:54.039 --> 01:36:56.359 I just was like, oh my god, it was just 1850 01:36:56.479 --> 01:36:59.600 some athing edit and just from there it's always been 1851 01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:00.720 just great love. Yeah. 1852 01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:03.439 Him and Dave Thomas, I feel like Burke, but. 1853 01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:06.600 Always steady work. Dave Thomas was on that Brett Butler 1854 01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:10.880 Show and got a lot of TV work. Flerity got 1855 01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:11.800 movies and TV. 1856 01:37:12.319 --> 01:37:15.399 He's in Blue Monkey with Steve Railsbag, which is a 1857 01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:15.960 lot fun. 1858 01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:18.840 I think between those two that you mentioned, and then 1859 01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:22.520 probably Andre and Martin, she definitely shows up in things, 1860 01:37:22.560 --> 01:37:25.359 you know, Dwick and The Angry and My Big Factory Wedding. 1861 01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.800 I keep seeing a clip on Instagram from a TV 1862 01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:33.319 show she did called Evil, but like, yeah, she was 1863 01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:36.399 hilarious as well, and just kind of like she's more 1864 01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:39.920 behind the stuff, you know, like you don't see her 1865 01:37:40.119 --> 01:37:44.279 as much, which is a little sad. I think for 1866 01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:47.159 a whole generation of people, Joe Flaherty was just simply 1867 01:37:47.279 --> 01:37:50.079 the Western Union guy that brings Marty the message at 1868 01:37:50.119 --> 01:37:51.399 the end of Back to the Future. 1869 01:37:52.279 --> 01:37:55.000 I mean, it was always just that line. Hey, Gilmore, 1870 01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:55.880 you just. 1871 01:37:56.920 --> 01:38:00.720 Going back to that documentary again. I wasn't sure at 1872 01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:03.399 first when I saw Flarity on I think it was 1873 01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:05.600 by that time it was the new Tom Green Show, 1874 01:38:06.159 --> 01:38:09.279 because they were playing like they hated each other, at 1875 01:38:09.359 --> 01:38:12.399 least that Flarerty hated Green. And I was like, is 1876 01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:17.319 this real or is this not real? It was so uncomfortable. 1877 01:38:17.520 --> 01:38:19.399 Those days must be Oh yeah, they were great. They're 1878 01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:21.199 just great. Yes, it must have been nuts for you. 1879 01:38:21.560 --> 01:38:25.720 Oh yeah, nuts, Dave Thomas, Yes, yes, sure, du Gene Levy, 1880 01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:26.800 of course we're seeing all the time. 1881 01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:27.960 That's right. What is your point? 1882 01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:30.560 Are you saying I'm not doing well? 1883 01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:31.279 What are you up to? 1884 01:38:31.319 --> 01:38:31.439 These? 1885 01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:33.840 I mean movies, big movies he tell us about. 1886 01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:36.880 All right, how about Speed? 1887 01:38:37.399 --> 01:38:40.279 I was in the movie, well, piano, piano. 1888 01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:43.439 We didn't see you in that what anywhere? 1889 01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:45.279 And I don't want to call you a liar? Wait, 1890 01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:46.199 but don't go there at Green. 1891 01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:47.680 This is my first you know, big show. 1892 01:38:48.439 --> 01:38:49.479 Okay, I was cut out. 1893 01:38:49.319 --> 01:38:49.720 Of the movie. 1894 01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:51.000 Yeah, well, you're calling me a liar. 1895 01:38:51.079 --> 01:38:53.359 I don't think that's a good idea. You're not very experienced. 1896 01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:54.279 You're Green. 1897 01:38:56.279 --> 01:38:59.520 It's so uncomfortable but fun to watch. You're like, oh God, 1898 01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:01.359 because Joe Flaerity. 1899 01:39:01.119 --> 01:39:03.800 Just seem like an interview is like the nicest, just 1900 01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:07.319 totally just amiable guy. I have one of the DANCTV 1901 01:39:07.399 --> 01:39:11.279 box sets and some of the commentaries with him, and 1902 01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:15.600 particularly there's one with him and Eugene Levy and Joe. 1903 01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:17.479 I can't like what it is Joe says, but Joe's 1904 01:39:17.479 --> 01:39:20.359 totally makes some joke that's like a slightly off color 1905 01:39:20.439 --> 01:39:25.000 and Eugene Levy gets uptightened, and Flarity just no selling 1906 01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:28.560 the uptight as he's just reveling in it. I just 1907 01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:31.880 love him so much, and I hate I love Tom Green, 1908 01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:33.720 but I'm like, Tom, what the fuck did you do? Man? 1909 01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:36.520 What did you do to make make it Joe Flarity mad? 1910 01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:37.920 We'd love Joe bum. 1911 01:39:38.279 --> 01:39:40.399 Since he shows up in this, I imagine it was 1912 01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:43.600 all a bit. Does he show up in the deleted 1913 01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:46.239 scenes at the end. I know for sure he's on 1914 01:39:46.439 --> 01:39:49.079 some of this documentary stuff and he basically he works 1915 01:39:49.119 --> 01:39:51.880 with Jim's dad or sorry, he works with Gordon's dad. 1916 01:39:52.680 --> 01:39:56.239 And again this kind of like how did they give 1917 01:39:56.319 --> 01:39:58.760 him all this money? Because you see some of these 1918 01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:02.680 deleted scenes. And so I mentioned the boat that we 1919 01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:06.319 saw Gord's dad on earlier, Well, that boat comes back 1920 01:40:06.399 --> 01:40:10.720 when he hires the helicopter pilot. He takes his dad's boat, 1921 01:40:11.399 --> 01:40:14.760 takes it to the construction site or the mill that's 1922 01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:19.119 what it is, where Flaherty and hint rip Torn are 1923 01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:23.880 working and drops the boat into this massive like shredder. Basically, 1924 01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:27.760 so you get like how much did that cost? I'm 1925 01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:29.359 sure it wasn't a real boat, but it was like 1926 01:40:29.399 --> 01:40:32.159 how much did that cost to do that particular thing? 1927 01:40:32.720 --> 01:40:35.279 And then you also get a little bit of the 1928 01:40:35.439 --> 01:40:40.000 house for whatever reason that he brings to Pakistan, which 1929 01:40:40.039 --> 01:40:42.479 I love, by the way, just that he chooses to 1930 01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:45.600 take the house to Pakistan, just because of his dad saying, 1931 01:40:46.079 --> 01:40:50.079 you know, you should, you'd be sewing soccer balls in Pakistan. 1932 01:40:50.800 --> 01:40:53.319 It's like such a nice you know, poetic It's like 1933 01:40:53.399 --> 01:40:56.720 poetry rhymes. You see the house explode, and I'm just like, 1934 01:40:57.199 --> 01:40:59.880 you exploded a house, But yet you cut away from 1935 01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:03.159 you cut from them running from the you know, like 1936 01:41:04.279 --> 01:41:07.880 him laying there with tapioca pudding all over him, aka 1937 01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:10.680 Elephant Come, and then Tom Green laying next to him. 1938 01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:13.560 You cut from that to basically them running and then 1939 01:41:13.640 --> 01:41:18.079 getting captured and stuff, and apparently there's a very brief 1940 01:41:18.159 --> 01:41:20.520 bit where you see Tom Green with a gun and 1941 01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:23.520 they're like playing this drinking game. I think there's gonna 1942 01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:28.039 be a real deer Hunter recreation, which is funny because 1943 01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:30.359 he does Deer Hunter in that or was going to, 1944 01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:32.720 and I think they chopped that down. And then he 1945 01:41:32.840 --> 01:41:34.960 was also we're talking about the music, he was also 1946 01:41:35.079 --> 01:41:38.479 going to do a whole Apocalypse Now thing. You get 1947 01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:42.680 to see that deleted scene of him as he's drawing, 1948 01:41:42.920 --> 01:41:45.359 trying to come up with drawings, and it's the New 1949 01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:48.199 York Doll song playing. That was supposed to be the 1950 01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:50.359 end by the doors, but they were going to charge 1951 01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:53.319 him like an insane amount of money, so he dropped 1952 01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:56.319 the whole thing. But it was all shot of him, 1953 01:41:56.840 --> 01:41:59.960 and you see the ceiling fan in the final film still, 1954 01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:03.159 but that was him, and he gets like, he stands 1955 01:42:03.239 --> 01:42:06.119 up and he starts doing kung fu, and he bashes 1956 01:42:06.239 --> 01:42:08.399 the mirror that's in front of him and he you know, 1957 01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:12.399 slices his hand open and all this. So there was 1958 01:42:12.479 --> 01:42:16.039 a whole Apocalypse Now reference that was supposed to be 1959 01:42:16.119 --> 01:42:18.039 in this and then I think that plays into when 1960 01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:21.359 you first see him in the helicopter they play right 1961 01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:22.239 at the Valkyrize. 1962 01:42:22.960 --> 01:42:25.399 I'm just thinking about the fact that he would have 1963 01:42:25.439 --> 01:42:28.039 picked up his dad's boat, because the whole point is 1964 01:42:28.239 --> 01:42:30.760 like rip Torn's character is like he's finally out of 1965 01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:33.560 the house, Thank fucking God. Like it's just he's got 1966 01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:36.920 to get him out of the house. And so there's 1967 01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:39.119 this battle of the wills between the two of them, 1968 01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:42.520 and the idea that he would pick up the boat, 1969 01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:45.600 which is probably would have been this priced thing. It's like, 1970 01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:48.840 oh my boat, especially coming from Michigan where we have 1971 01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:51.159 so much boat culture, it would just be like and 1972 01:42:51.279 --> 01:42:53.039 then to destroy it like that, it is just one 1973 01:42:53.119 --> 01:42:56.680 more fuck you to dad. Watching the Tom Green documentary, 1974 01:42:57.159 --> 01:42:58.720 I get the feeling that him and his dad are 1975 01:42:58.760 --> 01:43:01.720 pretty good with each other. But if you were to 1976 01:43:01.840 --> 01:43:04.439 like give this to I don't know, some Freudian analysis guy, 1977 01:43:04.479 --> 01:43:06.800 they would be like, who, this guy's got some serious 1978 01:43:06.880 --> 01:43:10.039 dad issues. He wants to kill his dad. And then 1979 01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:12.640 and then the fact that he would put the end 1980 01:43:12.720 --> 01:43:16.960 in there obviously now reference, but with the reference in 1981 01:43:17.039 --> 01:43:19.760 the end to father, I want to kill you and mother. 1982 01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:20.520 I want. 1983 01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:25.199 It's been a minute since I've still out last watched 1984 01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:28.079 the Tom Green Show proper, but I remember both spirits 1985 01:43:28.119 --> 01:43:30.640 seem like really nice people, which made it even more 1986 01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:34.239 just like he would do he would house it for 1987 01:43:34.399 --> 01:43:36.520 them and they come back and he had somebody paint 1988 01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:38.920 like two women making love on top of their like 1989 01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:40.399 like sedan. 1990 01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:44.279 Yeah, oh yeah, it was the slopmobile. They do the 1991 01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:50.560 whole slupmobile in the documentary. That was fucking hilarious. And yeah, 1992 01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:54.119 I like Tom Green's dad has a cameo in this movie, 1993 01:43:54.199 --> 01:43:56.840 but it's the animated version of him. He's the guy 1994 01:43:56.920 --> 01:44:00.520 that refuses to give Jim Zebra Jim a job. That's 1995 01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:04.720 the caricature of his dad. That documentary is just like 1996 01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:07.399 did you think it was funny? He's like, I did 1997 01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:09.359 think it was funny, but I couldn't admit it. 1998 01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:12.279 I have a partner right now. She can't handle like 1999 01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:15.800 cruelty humor, which is what I feel like some of 2000 01:44:15.880 --> 01:44:18.560 this is related to. And I don't know if that 2001 01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:22.039 is this particularly gen X thing. Is that just us? 2002 01:44:22.399 --> 01:44:25.880 Is that like punk rock humor? Because I think like 2003 01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:28.439 younger kids, like when I talk to people like, oh, 2004 01:44:28.920 --> 01:44:33.079 that's cruel or that's cringey, or there's these attitudes around 2005 01:44:33.319 --> 01:44:36.760 what's funny. And I know, like humor changes goes through. 2006 01:44:37.119 --> 01:44:40.439 Nobody's laughing at Chaucer, even though Terry Jones tried to 2007 01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:43.399 tell us that fucking Chaucer was hilarious. Nobody's laughing at 2008 01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:47.439 him five hundred years now, But humor changes. But I 2009 01:44:47.560 --> 01:44:49.800 was just wondering, and you, guys, do you feel that 2010 01:44:49.880 --> 01:44:53.000 there's just something innate about I don't know if cruelty 2011 01:44:53.159 --> 01:44:57.800 is right, but there's a certain sense of taking the 2012 01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:00.680 piss out of people or something, and that's in here 2013 01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:01.640 that I don't know. 2014 01:45:02.600 --> 01:45:04.880 I never know which generational stuff because I don't really 2015 01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:07.159 I have to met I don't really fully understand it, 2016 01:45:07.199 --> 01:45:08.479 and I think a lot of it's marketing. 2017 01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:12.159 I think we're bargaining bates that it really is like cultural. 2018 01:45:13.039 --> 01:45:15.560 But I'm also like, I don't even know which generation 2019 01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:19.479 I'm a part of, because I'm like a cusp. I'm 2020 01:45:19.560 --> 01:45:23.840 kind of like I'm millennial technically, but I'm just on 2021 01:45:23.960 --> 01:45:27.199 the tail end of gen X. I saw one, say, 2022 01:45:27.359 --> 01:45:31.199 elderly millennial, which you can gladly suck my left one 2023 01:45:31.319 --> 01:45:33.439 on that elderly my ass. 2024 01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:35.840 I will say this, I am not and I've never 2025 01:45:35.920 --> 01:45:38.479 been a fan. I'm sure there's exceptions. 2026 01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:42.560 I'm the biggest fan of like tension comedy with like 2027 01:45:42.680 --> 01:45:46.760 misunderstandings or stuff. Like anytime I'd see a trailer for say, 2028 01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:49.560 what was the was it Meet the Parents? The one 2029 01:45:49.600 --> 01:45:53.720 with de Niro, and still it made me ringe so hard, 2030 01:45:53.960 --> 01:45:56.920 like I can't that kind of shit. Even when I 2031 01:45:57.039 --> 01:45:59.600 was real little, I remember like anything with the Flintstones 2032 01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:02.359 is like a lot of the Funstones was like misunderstandings, 2033 01:46:02.399 --> 01:46:04.319 and it would just give me the hives I could 2034 01:46:04.359 --> 01:46:06.760 not deal with. I mean, that's a kind of cruelty 2035 01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:09.359 that's very real life based, and I like it. It 2036 01:46:09.560 --> 01:46:13.439 makes me deeply, deeply uncomfortable. I feel like this kind 2037 01:46:13.479 --> 01:46:17.079 of stuff and what Tom Green does is so bananas 2038 01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:20.359 that it's not real. There's no reality kind of base 2039 01:46:20.479 --> 01:46:23.520 to this. So I don't think if it was cool, 2040 01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:25.359 but it's I don't know, what do you guys? 2041 01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:30.479 The common Stiffler's beer always hit me wrong, you know, 2042 01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:35.199 just like that's crossing a line kind of thing. Honestly, 2043 01:46:35.479 --> 01:46:38.119 one of my least favorite things in the entire world 2044 01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:43.319 was Three's Company just because every episode hinged upon a misunderstanding, 2045 01:46:44.479 --> 01:46:47.319 and they were all misunderstandings that probably could have gotten 2046 01:46:47.399 --> 01:46:50.079 explained away, And so much of it was just because 2047 01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:53.479 of was it just good Rent? Why was Why did 2048 01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:56.680 he have to stay with jan and Chrissy or whoever 2049 01:46:56.800 --> 01:46:58.000 these women were? 2050 01:46:58.159 --> 01:46:58.600 Was it just that? 2051 01:46:58.880 --> 01:46:59.760 Was it wacky? 2052 01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:00.319 Okay? 2053 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:03.119 All right, it's a Sims. 2054 01:47:03.199 --> 01:47:06.800 The gay panic on that show was just so intense. 2055 01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:08.720 Oh god, Okay. 2056 01:47:08.840 --> 01:47:12.840 Also, what is mister Furley? Not mister Furley? Which one was? 2057 01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:15.560 Norman Fell's character was see Roper? 2058 01:47:15.720 --> 01:47:20.600 Mister Roper, mister Roper's problem with this beautiful Why she 2059 01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:24.680 was always wanting to get some beautiful woman lovely captains? 2060 01:47:25.239 --> 01:47:29.960 And you don't eat oh Bundy, I mean, peg is gorgeous? 2061 01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:33.840 What the hell? Heeck is a goddess? Yes she is. 2062 01:47:33.920 --> 01:47:36.000 They just don't eat he don't eat her cooking. But 2063 01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:37.680 she is a goddess. I love. 2064 01:47:37.920 --> 01:47:38.119 Yeah. 2065 01:47:39.279 --> 01:47:41.000 I just have that line that goes through my head, 2066 01:47:41.039 --> 01:47:42.439 and I think I've used it a couple of times 2067 01:47:42.479 --> 01:47:47.840 from Fish called Wanda, where when Kevin Klein's auto is 2068 01:47:48.319 --> 01:47:52.840 torturing Michael Palin, he's asking him the philosophy questions. He 2069 01:47:52.960 --> 01:47:55.560 goes and which book didn'ts you claim that all higher 2070 01:47:55.640 --> 01:47:59.680 art is based on cruelty, So I just think about that, 2071 01:48:00.319 --> 01:48:03.279 in which you know, yeah, I'm like, all Shakespeare is cruelty. 2072 01:48:04.159 --> 01:48:07.960 A lot of great painting and art and it's cruelty. 2073 01:48:08.479 --> 01:48:10.319 I'm like, they're just we just seem to have this 2074 01:48:10.439 --> 01:48:14.319 thing with cruelty. I don't necessarily consider this cruel because 2075 01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:17.399 it's cartoonish, it's over the top. One thing I wanted 2076 01:48:17.399 --> 01:48:20.279 to talk about in terms of like more recent Canadian 2077 01:48:20.359 --> 01:48:23.840 Man on the Street humor that is morphed into a film, 2078 01:48:24.520 --> 01:48:27.760 and how they handle this versus something else. And I 2079 01:48:27.800 --> 01:48:30.560 don't know if you're familiar with this. Nirvana, the band 2080 01:48:30.640 --> 01:48:31.079 of the show. 2081 01:48:32.159 --> 01:48:32.800 I've seen the. 2082 01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:36.800 Poster and I don't know. I've downloaded the movie. I 2083 01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:37.840 haven't watched it yet. 2084 01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:41.399 Those guys are from Toronto, and the whole concept is 2085 01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:43.640 is they're like two guys who want to make it big. 2086 01:48:43.800 --> 01:48:46.439 So it's got like this, As I explained the movie, 2087 01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:49.800 it's like Bill and Ted meets back in the future, 2088 01:48:49.960 --> 01:48:52.600 Like it has this kind of time travel piece, but 2089 01:48:52.680 --> 01:48:55.079 they're like diluted and they want to be they want 2090 01:48:55.119 --> 01:48:57.920 to play at the RIVALI, which is where the Kids 2091 01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:00.600 in the Hall started. They did shows at the Rivalie Toronto. 2092 01:49:01.439 --> 01:49:04.960 So anyway, their whole man on the street bit isn't 2093 01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:07.720 so much like getting people to attack them or making 2094 01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:10.399 them uncomfortable, which is what Green does. It's more like 2095 01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:14.680 making themselves the butt of the joke. I'm diluted and 2096 01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:19.159 this person thinks getting them to conspire with you to 2097 01:49:19.279 --> 01:49:22.159 do something. And so I just found it interesting in 2098 01:49:22.279 --> 01:49:25.880 terms of how not all sort of man on the 2099 01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:29.680 street bits, which I think Green's humor also connects to 2100 01:49:29.760 --> 01:49:31.800 something like I really loved I don't know if you 2101 01:49:31.840 --> 01:49:34.279 guys ever saw Wonder shows and they send the kids 2102 01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:38.000 out and ask inappropriate questions of people, Like that's all 2103 01:49:38.079 --> 01:49:42.760 about making people uncomfortable and getting their reaction to inappropriateness. 2104 01:49:43.720 --> 01:49:46.039 And I felt that the guys who do Nirvana the band, 2105 01:49:47.159 --> 01:49:51.319 the show the movie was more about like how how 2106 01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:53.359 can I bring you into my world kind of thing 2107 01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:57.199 as opposed to this uncomfortableness in that way. So it's 2108 01:49:57.279 --> 01:49:57.960 just interesting. 2109 01:49:58.800 --> 01:50:02.000 The whole Beat Kids, the Beat Reporter, and it's like 2110 01:50:02.239 --> 01:50:04.439 kids on the Street, Kids on the Beat, Beat Kids. 2111 01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:08.279 There's these little cartoons with the title Beat Kids, like 2112 01:50:08.439 --> 01:50:09.479 that Wonder ships. 2113 01:50:09.479 --> 01:50:10.119 One was great. 2114 01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:13.439 Oh, especially like they send them to Wall Street and 2115 01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:15.920 it's like, how many people did you exploit today? And 2116 01:50:16.039 --> 01:50:18.600 it's like a little eight year old girl asking some 2117 01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:21.079 Wall Street chatteries like a lot a lot of people. Yeah, 2118 01:50:21.079 --> 01:50:22.159 I did, I did really well. 2119 01:50:23.079 --> 01:50:24.640 There's like a little redheaded boy. 2120 01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:28.119 I was like, God, if I had ever spawned, this 2121 01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:31.000 would have been my child. And then a little suit 2122 01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:32.800 and he goes up to a pig head and he's like. 2123 01:50:32.920 --> 01:50:36.159 How are you doing today, officer. I literally thought in 2124 01:50:36.279 --> 01:50:38.319 terms of I think of cruelty with art. 2125 01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:41.600 I always tend to think more like ore tow that 2126 01:50:41.760 --> 01:50:44.680 I do like comedy, but that's a really now. 2127 01:50:44.720 --> 01:50:47.119 I mean, there's a cruelty in comedy. 2128 01:50:47.399 --> 01:50:49.479 I always just think of cruelty and comedy as being like, yeah, 2129 01:50:49.479 --> 01:50:51.640 I don't want to watch my meet the Fokkers or whatever. 2130 01:50:52.079 --> 01:50:53.960 I don't know, I'm good. I don't want to see that. 2131 01:50:54.319 --> 01:50:57.680 I want to see just oh, it's wacky misunderstandings and 2132 01:50:57.840 --> 01:51:00.439 it's just hate it and it's just seeing people deeply. 2133 01:51:01.039 --> 01:51:03.640 It makes me deeply uncomfortable. Seeing people that uncomfortable. 2134 01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:06.880 I don't think it's funny, but it's also yeah, I'm 2135 01:51:06.880 --> 01:51:08.239 having to see you like, why wou don't want to 2136 01:51:08.239 --> 01:51:09.079 see DeNiro do this? 2137 01:51:09.239 --> 01:51:11.760 I'll just I'll just remember when he was in Good Boe. 2138 01:51:12.800 --> 01:51:16.000 If you want uncomfortableness and you want to Nero, it's 2139 01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:18.640 King of comedy. You know, that's where you can stop 2140 01:51:18.760 --> 01:51:22.880 right there, or maybe Midnight Run, you know. I mean, 2141 01:51:22.920 --> 01:51:27.560 because God, Charles Groden, I could see asking Grodin as 2142 01:51:27.800 --> 01:51:31.760 Gordon's dead would be an interesting choice. Obviously totally different 2143 01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:36.159 vibe coming to it, but just that disappointed because Croden 2144 01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:39.880 could do disappointed so well. But yeah, to get back 2145 01:51:39.960 --> 01:51:44.680 to mister Torn, I mean just yeah. The mania that 2146 01:51:44.840 --> 01:51:49.239 he approaches this role with is just oh. And that's 2147 01:51:49.319 --> 01:51:53.279 the only thing I really regret about not having more 2148 01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:56.600 of these deleted scenes is to have more of rip Torn, 2149 01:51:56.680 --> 01:51:59.279 because he steals the movie. 2150 01:51:59.159 --> 01:52:01.399 Oh Metock and Barrel. 2151 01:52:01.479 --> 01:52:05.119 When he starts kicking at Arlan Williams leg cat, It's 2152 01:52:05.199 --> 01:52:08.960 is like such a maniac and I, oh my god, 2153 01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:12.279 ripped Torn. And I love the beauty of rip Torn 2154 01:52:12.319 --> 01:52:15.920 because he could be unhinged and be your heart's breaking 2155 01:52:16.039 --> 01:52:18.159 unhinged like Got like Coming Apart, which is such a 2156 01:52:18.199 --> 01:52:20.279 brilliant movie, like that movie. 2157 01:52:20.359 --> 01:52:22.399 And he can do like these serious dramas. 2158 01:52:22.520 --> 01:52:25.880 He could do got Man who Fill to Earth And 2159 01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:28.640 there's a great scene where he's yelling in that he's naked. 2160 01:52:28.680 --> 01:52:29.520 It's fantastic. 2161 01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:33.600 But then he can do like these unhinged comedies and 2162 01:52:34.119 --> 01:52:36.000 which kind of what he became more known for in 2163 01:52:36.079 --> 01:52:37.439 his later stage of his life. 2164 01:52:38.319 --> 01:52:40.039 Fuck Naked is that his character's name. 2165 01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:43.239 I'm just thinking about how you say that, like in 2166 01:52:43.279 --> 01:52:45.079 a lot of movies, he has a tendency to yell, 2167 01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:48.720 and I'm wondering if he was the archetype for John 2168 01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:50.640 Goodman and the Coen Brothers movies, who. 2169 01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:54.720 Oh my god, have they never used to rip torn, 2170 01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:58.920 ripped whatever? At the Cohens come on? He would have 2171 01:52:58.960 --> 01:52:59.319 a burt. 2172 01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:02.079 I think we would be a little remissed. And I 2173 01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:05.359 talk about some of the reaction to this movie. First, 2174 01:53:05.359 --> 01:53:08.159 I want to just start talking about the poster because 2175 01:53:08.479 --> 01:53:12.319 it's a very interesting I mean, Heather, you were talking 2176 01:53:12.359 --> 01:53:16.000 about the marketing and just how bad the trailer was 2177 01:53:16.119 --> 01:53:18.359 for this, and there's a lot of trailers out there, 2178 01:53:18.399 --> 01:53:21.920 but yes, they are pretty much all bad. This whole 2179 01:53:22.359 --> 01:53:28.399 poster thing where it's just green on the poster in 2180 01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:31.720 front of what would you say, like one hundred little 2181 01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:34.720 pictures all from this movie. And then you've got him 2182 01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:37.319 front and center and he's doing the whole like it's 2183 01:53:37.399 --> 01:53:39.640 not really the framing thing with the hands, but it's 2184 01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:41.680 as close as you're going to get from Tom Green. 2185 01:53:42.520 --> 01:53:45.359 And that's the movie poster. It's not a scene from 2186 01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:49.119 the movie. It's not a representation of Freddy getting fingered, 2187 01:53:49.239 --> 01:53:53.159 which I was kind of disappointed about. It's just Green 2188 01:53:53.520 --> 01:53:57.680 front and center and just making himself. You know, obviously 2189 01:53:57.920 --> 01:54:00.279 the studio knows what they're doing. They're just like, yeah, no, 2190 01:54:00.319 --> 01:54:03.000 we're gonna put this guy on here. All blame will 2191 01:54:03.039 --> 01:54:06.439 go to him. But no, really, like he was the 2192 01:54:06.600 --> 01:54:10.159 draw for so many people. And also, you know we're 2193 01:54:10.199 --> 01:54:12.359 talking about you know, I pulled himself up by his 2194 01:54:12.439 --> 01:54:15.359 bootstraps and everything. He fucking directed this movie. It's not like, 2195 01:54:15.840 --> 01:54:17.760 you know, he hired Tom Shadik or some of these 2196 01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:19.840 other guys to be like, yoh, no, come on in 2197 01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:23.239 and direct this. No, he directed this movie, and so 2198 01:54:23.399 --> 01:54:27.079 then he puts this, unfortunately, this big fucking target on 2199 01:54:27.199 --> 01:54:31.000 his head, and so many people went after this. I mean, 2200 01:54:31.239 --> 01:54:34.439 Robbie mentioned the I think it was Ebert and roper 2201 01:54:34.520 --> 01:54:37.439 By that time, I think Cisco. I don't know if 2202 01:54:37.479 --> 01:54:39.800 he was passed away or if he just was sick 2203 01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:43.520 at the time, but just like all these people just 2204 01:54:43.640 --> 01:54:47.479 smelled blood in the water, and people piled onto this 2205 01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:53.199 movie more than like snow White, the musical remake live 2206 01:54:53.279 --> 01:54:56.359 action version from last year. I think it was or 2207 01:54:56.439 --> 01:54:59.920 like any of these other disasters, this one. I mean, 2208 01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:03.920 I kind of watch this because it was reported to 2209 01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:05.880 be such a car crash, and I was frankly a 2210 01:55:05.920 --> 01:55:08.119 little disappointed because I was like, yeah, it was actually 2211 01:55:08.199 --> 01:55:10.079 kind of good, you know, but it's it's not my 2212 01:55:10.159 --> 01:55:13.520 style of humor. But it was nowhere near as bad 2213 01:55:13.640 --> 01:55:18.279 as the people had reported. And just how disgusting this 2214 01:55:18.479 --> 01:55:21.640 movie was. It's like, yeah, Okay, like I said, I 2215 01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:23.640 don't really care to see you close up of a 2216 01:55:23.720 --> 01:55:26.479 horse cock. Maybe it's just me, Maybe I'm uptight, Maybe 2217 01:55:26.520 --> 01:55:28.920 I'm the wrong generation for that, you know, maybe a 2218 01:55:28.960 --> 01:55:33.800 lot of people love horsecock on screen. But but they 2219 01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:36.880 went after this poor guy so hard, and he really 2220 01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:37.800 didn't deserve it. 2221 01:55:38.920 --> 01:55:41.520 No, no, And that cover is a charcious. It looks 2222 01:55:41.600 --> 01:55:44.279 like a mountain dew ad. It looks like it could 2223 01:55:44.279 --> 01:55:47.720 be an ad for like an Xbox System. It doesn't 2224 01:55:47.720 --> 01:55:50.359 look like a movie poster at all. What they should 2225 01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:53.279 have done is there's an artist in Kirk Demris who 2226 01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:57.319 does all these great where it like paint it like 2227 01:55:57.399 --> 01:56:00.000 all like seventy style paint, like family portraits, but it's 2228 01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:04.640 like Jack and Wendy Torret's and they were the Golden Girls, 2229 01:56:04.680 --> 01:56:07.920 like the very He's such a cool artist. And if 2230 01:56:07.960 --> 01:56:10.680 they did, like a family, sell portrait of that with 2231 01:56:10.840 --> 01:56:14.199 the family, do something irreverent because this movie's. 2232 01:56:13.840 --> 01:56:16.920 A reverent like it should have been promoted like that, 2233 01:56:17.239 --> 01:56:19.560 like what it was, what it really is now. 2234 01:56:19.680 --> 01:56:22.439 This won a bunch of Razzies, and I read that 2235 01:56:22.640 --> 01:56:26.439 Tom Green was the second filmmaker to show up in person, 2236 01:56:27.520 --> 01:56:30.159 the first being Paul Verhoven for I can't live like 2237 01:56:30.279 --> 01:56:30.840 the Razzies. 2238 01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:34.279 Okay, why do you show girls? This is a good movie. 2239 01:56:34.399 --> 01:56:36.439 We've talked about it on the show, which is great. 2240 01:56:36.920 --> 01:56:38.520 Your famous line. 2241 01:56:38.319 --> 01:56:42.279 Of Yosemite Sam with titty but she does act like 2242 01:56:42.359 --> 01:56:45.039 that and might defense she completely x like Yosemite stamp 2243 01:56:45.079 --> 01:56:48.119 with titties and like throwing up the French fries in 2244 01:56:48.199 --> 01:56:48.520 the air. 2245 01:56:48.960 --> 01:56:49.239 Girl. 2246 01:56:49.520 --> 01:56:50.840 They're kids starving and. 2247 01:56:50.880 --> 01:56:55.439 You're just like Willly nearly throwing taters whatever versas, but 2248 01:56:56.119 --> 01:56:59.039 top grade apparently, and this is I love him for this. 2249 01:56:59.279 --> 01:57:04.079 Apparely played a harmonic solo and he would stop playing, 2250 01:57:04.239 --> 01:57:06.159 and they like he had to pull up off stage 2251 01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:08.479 like he did like some Mike Patt and shit like 2252 01:57:08.600 --> 01:57:10.760 this only was a Mike Patt and Andy Coffin level 2253 01:57:11.199 --> 01:57:12.439 antics And I am. 2254 01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:14.159 So for it because stuff like that. 2255 01:57:14.840 --> 01:57:17.680 This movie, I'm saying, eber seeing the worst movie of 2256 01:57:17.760 --> 01:57:21.079 this year, I highly doubt that this was the worst 2257 01:57:21.119 --> 01:57:22.319 movie of. 2258 01:57:22.720 --> 01:57:26.159 Two thousand and one. It's not for everybody, but sheesus. 2259 01:57:26.239 --> 01:57:28.800 If something's for everybody, then it's going to be something 2260 01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:32.159 that nobody remembers because it's gonna be so bland and 2261 01:57:32.319 --> 01:57:34.359 so neutered and diluted. 2262 01:57:35.439 --> 01:57:37.760 Yeah, the movie studio didn't know what the fuck to 2263 01:57:37.880 --> 01:57:40.119 do with this, but people were talking about it and 2264 01:57:40.319 --> 01:57:43.680 it became really big on DVD once it came out. 2265 01:57:44.239 --> 01:57:46.159 That's right, and that's how it got the cult, and 2266 01:57:46.279 --> 01:57:46.840 I love that. 2267 01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:48.840 That's always sort of like I think a thread with 2268 01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:52.960 a lot of especially newer cult movies, is this Nobody 2269 01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:56.319 knew what to do with them originally, but they find 2270 01:57:56.399 --> 01:58:00.840 this new life on physical media and gosh, think about 2271 01:58:00.840 --> 01:58:01.439 shock treatment. 2272 01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:04.159 God, you would talk about terrible trailers. The US trailer 2273 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:05.880 for that film horrible. 2274 01:58:06.640 --> 01:58:09.560 I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna pull up what 2275 01:58:09.760 --> 01:58:12.560 the best picture was, and I'm gonna ask you, would 2276 01:58:12.600 --> 01:58:15.239 you rather watch that or would you rather watch this? 2277 01:58:16.399 --> 01:58:19.000 Are you ready a beautiful mind? 2278 01:58:19.279 --> 01:58:19.479 Oh? 2279 01:58:19.960 --> 01:58:20.760 Good lord? 2280 01:58:21.439 --> 01:58:23.960 I cannot stand that movie. 2281 01:58:25.159 --> 01:58:29.399 This is why I hate stuff like the Oscars. I'm 2282 01:58:29.439 --> 01:58:31.560 not a fan of that shit in general, because there's 2283 01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:38.239 a certain type of film. There's especially where it's like Oscar. 2284 01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:41.199 It's just good to get to Oscar. Oh, the critics 2285 01:58:41.279 --> 01:58:43.920 are good to love it, and it's it's not good. 2286 01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:49.680 How many great, genuinely great movies and artists never get mentioned. 2287 01:58:49.920 --> 01:58:53.520 And I know it's subjective, that's fair, but still, I 2288 01:58:53.600 --> 01:58:55.359 once said, the guy yell at me because I made 2289 01:58:55.399 --> 01:58:58.279 a this is serious, by way, This is some comedy 2290 01:58:58.319 --> 01:59:01.239 because it happened for real. A guy yell at me 2291 01:59:01.239 --> 01:59:03.800 because I made fun of the Starland Was it Starlight 2292 01:59:04.039 --> 01:59:08.319 Vocal band? Starland vocal band that did after Julight? I'm serious, 2293 01:59:08.840 --> 01:59:11.760 Eddie said, oh you. He called me the ladist and 2294 01:59:11.800 --> 01:59:14.520 said they want to grier me, and it is who 2295 01:59:14.840 --> 01:59:16.479 fuck cares who wanted Grammy? 2296 01:59:16.479 --> 01:59:18.880 You how many great artists haven't won a Grammy? Does 2297 01:59:18.960 --> 01:59:21.960 Janis Joplin when she was alive? Won a Grammy? Has 2298 01:59:22.119 --> 01:59:26.319 band Hawk when won a Grammy? Does Ornett? Ornette Coleman? Grammy? 2299 01:59:27.199 --> 01:59:27.720 Fuck off? 2300 01:59:28.039 --> 01:59:28.319 Come on? 2301 01:59:28.560 --> 01:59:32.439 All of that is horseshit, the Grammys, Oscars, all of it. 2302 01:59:32.760 --> 01:59:35.920 It's just people. Just it's a circle jerk of ego 2303 01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:41.800 and pretension. Beautiful Mind, and that's another movie. I know, 2304 01:59:41.960 --> 01:59:44.800 I thought, I remember. It just made me think of 2305 01:59:44.960 --> 01:59:47.760 like indigestion. It just really didn't do much for me. 2306 01:59:47.800 --> 01:59:52.119 I'm just like mildly bloated, like except without the fun 2307 01:59:52.199 --> 01:59:56.840 of eating horrible food. That is, yes, I had it inshurrito. 2308 01:59:56.920 --> 01:59:59.600 I should not have eaten that, but it tasted good. 2309 02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:00.520 I'm bloated. 2310 02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:02.119 I didn't get that with a Beautiful Mind. I just 2311 02:00:02.199 --> 02:00:06.600 got the bloating and a really rustle curls. An actor 2312 02:00:06.640 --> 02:00:08.279 who can do really great work. I've seen him and 2313 02:00:08.279 --> 02:00:10.359 stuff where I really enjoyed him. That was not the 2314 02:00:10.399 --> 02:00:13.439 flavor of the Maybe if they would be like let's 2315 02:00:13.479 --> 02:00:15.520 show Let's Star a history film where we show this 2316 02:00:15.640 --> 02:00:19.199 character from being the complete flight fucking hot mess he 2317 02:00:19.439 --> 02:00:21.800 is and give us some honesty. 2318 02:00:22.239 --> 02:00:25.840 It's the truth. Do a Cassavetti's baby. Then we got art, 2319 02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:26.680 then we got action. 2320 02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:31.640 Yeah, it's ridiculous, and Tom Green definitely didn't deserve I 2321 02:00:31.760 --> 02:00:33.399 think that's often the case with a lot of these 2322 02:00:33.439 --> 02:00:34.960 films that get maligned, is being. 2323 02:00:34.880 --> 02:00:37.960 Like, oh, this is the worst, the worst film. Didn't marry, 2324 02:00:38.000 --> 02:00:39.760 didn't American Beauty? What a bunch of shit? 2325 02:00:39.840 --> 02:00:40.000 Too. 2326 02:00:40.920 --> 02:00:44.920 Well, it's basically it was Oscar Bait fight Club because 2327 02:00:44.960 --> 02:00:48.880 it's all about Russell Crowe and his imaginary friend and. 2328 02:00:48.960 --> 02:00:52.039 A lot of math. It's all I remember. All I 2329 02:00:52.159 --> 02:00:55.359 remember is that image. It's it's like the the meme 2330 02:00:55.399 --> 02:00:58.840 of the lady looking around with the math around her, 2331 02:00:59.319 --> 02:01:01.880 you know, like that's all I remember is just the 2332 02:01:02.000 --> 02:01:06.079 math comes on the screen. But the point that I'm 2333 02:01:06.119 --> 02:01:09.000 trying to make is I've seen that once. I have 2334 02:01:09.479 --> 02:01:11.760 no desire to go out of my way to see 2335 02:01:11.800 --> 02:01:16.600 that again. This movie I saw once on Criterion streaming. 2336 02:01:16.680 --> 02:01:18.279 I told you, I go, we should do this on 2337 02:01:18.359 --> 02:01:21.039 the show. I have now watched it three times and 2338 02:01:21.159 --> 02:01:23.159 I will likely watch it again at least one more 2339 02:01:23.199 --> 02:01:26.840 time before I'm probably in the ground. Congratulations, Tom Green, 2340 02:01:26.880 --> 02:01:27.439 you have won. 2341 02:01:28.119 --> 02:01:31.239 I own a physical copy of Right Your Finger, so 2342 02:01:31.720 --> 02:01:34.399 it made enough an impressure on me to where it 2343 02:01:34.479 --> 02:01:35.520 is part of the collection. 2344 02:01:36.760 --> 02:01:41.960 I mean, I read two college thesis about Freddy Gottfinger. 2345 02:01:42.199 --> 02:01:45.840 That was the reading for this, because I didn't want 2346 02:01:45.920 --> 02:01:49.960 to go out and just have bad review after bad review. 2347 02:01:50.039 --> 02:01:53.279 I mean, of course the AO Scott review is out there, 2348 02:01:53.359 --> 02:01:55.680 which he seemed to really like this and did kind 2349 02:01:55.720 --> 02:01:58.119 of predict like, hey, people are going to be talking 2350 02:01:58.159 --> 02:02:01.239 about this in twenty five years and bloila, here we are. 2351 02:02:02.439 --> 02:02:05.640 I'm reading these college thesies being like, yeah, this is 2352 02:02:05.720 --> 02:02:07.720 an anti comedy and like take a look at this, 2353 02:02:07.960 --> 02:02:10.960 and you know, and like defining you know what a 2354 02:02:11.119 --> 02:02:14.039 comedian comedy, which was a weird term for me, a 2355 02:02:14.119 --> 02:02:16.920 comedian comedy is all about, and you know, tying it 2356 02:02:17.039 --> 02:02:19.560 back like you did Rob to Buster Keaton and just 2357 02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:22.399 like how is Keaton and his movies and his whole 2358 02:02:22.479 --> 02:02:26.279 sad sack persona versus Tom Green with you know, we've 2359 02:02:26.359 --> 02:02:29.159 got that scene of him in slow motion as he's 2360 02:02:29.239 --> 02:02:31.800 walking through the rain to go back into the Chief 2361 02:02:31.880 --> 02:02:36.720 Sandwich Shop. You know, it's like just like his attempt 2362 02:02:36.800 --> 02:02:41.800 at the super sad moment in the movie you know, like, Okay, 2363 02:02:42.039 --> 02:02:45.520 Betty's you know, Betty's mad at him, and his dad's 2364 02:02:45.600 --> 02:02:48.800 mad at him, and you know, his brother's mad at him, 2365 02:02:48.840 --> 02:02:51.279 and he's got to suck it up and go back 2366 02:02:51.319 --> 02:02:53.680 into the chief shop and just admit defeat, you know, 2367 02:02:53.800 --> 02:02:56.800 and it's like that's the worst thing is working at 2368 02:02:56.880 --> 02:02:59.960 this cheese shop or cheese sandwich shop. It was pretty great. 2369 02:03:00.239 --> 02:03:04.600 So I have grown to appreciate this movie more by 2370 02:03:04.880 --> 02:03:08.840 talking about it, more by reading about it. And I 2371 02:03:09.119 --> 02:03:12.279 still am not a big Tom Green fan. I don't 2372 02:03:12.279 --> 02:03:15.800 think I'll seek out his work necessarily, but if he 2373 02:03:15.960 --> 02:03:19.199 did help pave the way for things like Jackass and 2374 02:03:19.279 --> 02:03:22.039 some of these other anti comedy things that we've talked 2375 02:03:22.079 --> 02:03:24.520 about like Wonder Shows and liked him and Eric, like 2376 02:03:25.600 --> 02:03:31.800 who's the guy that you always see him shooting someone? Yes, 2377 02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:36.079 like with all of those comedians. I mean, because I 2378 02:03:36.159 --> 02:03:39.119 didn't tell my Jackass story, which was I never watched 2379 02:03:39.199 --> 02:03:42.520 Jackass when it was on TV. But then when the 2380 02:03:42.560 --> 02:03:45.640 first Jackass movie came out, my friend Diane was just like, 2381 02:03:46.199 --> 02:03:48.640 you have to see this movie. It's fantastic, and we 2382 02:03:48.760 --> 02:03:51.239 went to see it at a Dallas show. I couldn't 2383 02:03:51.239 --> 02:03:53.880 stop laughing. It was so fucking funny. And I've seen 2384 02:03:54.000 --> 02:03:56.880 all of the Jackass movies subsequent plus when they bring 2385 02:03:56.960 --> 02:03:59.840 out like the version two point five or three point 2386 02:03:59.880 --> 02:04:02.680 five or any of those things, I'm right there watching it. 2387 02:04:02.800 --> 02:04:04.439 I want to see more of this stuff. I want 2388 02:04:04.479 --> 02:04:08.079 to see Steve O snorting Wasabi. I want to see 2389 02:04:08.199 --> 02:04:11.680 Wemen getting smacked by a giant hand. You know, these 2390 02:04:11.800 --> 02:04:14.520 are great characters that these people are playing or real 2391 02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:17.680 life versions. I mean, I'm pulling for Johnny Knoxville every 2392 02:04:17.720 --> 02:04:19.159 single time I see him on TV. 2393 02:04:19.439 --> 02:04:22.399 Same god you think about Knoxville. I loved him in 2394 02:04:22.520 --> 02:04:23.760 a Dirty Shame. 2395 02:04:24.680 --> 02:04:30.079 He was really good in the one with Arnold Schwarzenegger, 2396 02:04:30.279 --> 02:04:33.760 and I think who else wasn't that? But yeah, whatever 2397 02:04:33.800 --> 02:04:36.479 that Ernold schwart the Last Stand, I think it was called, 2398 02:04:36.760 --> 02:04:37.840 He's fantastic in that. 2399 02:04:38.880 --> 02:04:41.039 I love Jackass. I love all those guys. 2400 02:04:41.119 --> 02:04:42.960 I've even to the point though, over like when we 2401 02:04:43.199 --> 02:04:46.000 actually saw three D we did a date night, which 2402 02:04:46.720 --> 02:04:51.520 being in a room full of teenagers who somehow teenage 2403 02:04:51.560 --> 02:04:55.960 boys that conned their girlfriend who apparently did not know 2404 02:04:56.119 --> 02:04:57.840 I don't know how. It's the third one at that 2405 02:04:57.960 --> 02:05:03.279 point where they like the choir of eh, oh, maybe 2406 02:05:03.680 --> 02:05:05.960 it was one of also my horrified a lady a Sephora. 2407 02:05:06.239 --> 02:05:08.439 She was like, oh, you cat, you come on a date. 2408 02:05:08.560 --> 02:05:11.399 That's wonderful where one movie and I was like, oh, 2409 02:05:11.560 --> 02:05:13.439 Jackass right in and she's like, oh. 2410 02:05:14.159 --> 02:05:17.560 It's interesting. Earlier this week, a chance to go see 2411 02:05:17.640 --> 02:05:20.840 John Waters in person. I've seen him before, but it 2412 02:05:20.920 --> 02:05:23.159 got me to think because I was recording this with 2413 02:05:23.239 --> 02:05:26.399 you guys, we were just talking about Jackass. Here is 2414 02:05:27.119 --> 02:05:30.159 when I first started the same with the same with me, Michael. 2415 02:05:30.319 --> 02:05:32.520 I did not see Jackass when I was on TV. 2416 02:05:32.760 --> 02:05:35.880 I only watched the movie and then got into all 2417 02:05:35.960 --> 02:05:38.079 of them and I absolutely love them too. And there 2418 02:05:38.159 --> 02:05:40.239 was a moment where I'm like, what is it, like 2419 02:05:40.319 --> 02:05:45.560 why Like I love these like art films and foreign 2420 02:05:45.640 --> 02:05:47.920 film and all of this stuff, and for some reason, 2421 02:05:48.079 --> 02:05:51.760 like why do I why do I gravitate towards this too? 2422 02:05:52.079 --> 02:05:54.319 And there was part of me that goes, That's why 2423 02:05:54.359 --> 02:05:56.520 I love Waters and Waters is much the same way 2424 02:05:57.159 --> 02:06:06.720 ooh four hour, Horrible, Miserable, awful, Norwegians. Everything is terrible film. Yes, 2425 02:06:07.680 --> 02:06:10.560 and then show me something like she should have said no, 2426 02:06:10.960 --> 02:06:15.720 or russ Meyer or something. Give me this range. I 2427 02:06:15.840 --> 02:06:18.880 need this range. I always just a joke. People would 2428 02:06:18.920 --> 02:06:20.760 ask me about this show when I was co hosting 2429 02:06:20.800 --> 02:06:22.479 it all the time with you, and I said, it's great. 2430 02:06:22.680 --> 02:06:24.680 We do everything from the art house to the outhouse. 2431 02:06:24.720 --> 02:06:27.960 It's great. I love it because it is those that 2432 02:06:28.039 --> 02:06:31.039 are in the middle. It's those a beautiful mind and 2433 02:06:31.079 --> 02:06:33.399 stuff like that. It's like those will just be forgotten. 2434 02:06:34.279 --> 02:06:38.039 People don't care about those. It's always the fringe ends. 2435 02:06:38.720 --> 02:06:42.159 It's always the most it's the extremity that seems to 2436 02:06:42.239 --> 02:06:44.720 be the stuff that has values. So let that be 2437 02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:48.199 a lessed to you kids. If you're creative, create things 2438 02:06:48.239 --> 02:06:50.600 that are on the edges, so that way, twenty five 2439 02:06:50.680 --> 02:06:52.880 years after you make it, people still sit around talk 2440 02:06:52.920 --> 02:06:53.199 about it. 2441 02:06:54.119 --> 02:06:55.960 All right, We're going to take another break and play 2442 02:06:55.960 --> 02:06:59.000 a preview for next week's show right after these brief messches. 2443 02:07:00.439 --> 02:07:02.920 And then I still know Leeds As to the identity 2444 02:07:02.960 --> 02:07:06.800 of the freaky folk hero remains at large, sir, what 2445 02:07:06.920 --> 02:07:07.920 did you see last night? 2446 02:07:08.680 --> 02:07:11.680 Her gunshots saw blood and the Sola had his arm 2447 02:07:11.800 --> 02:07:14.359 tore off like wet bread, and the creature run off 2448 02:07:14.479 --> 02:07:14.800 into them. 2449 02:07:14.880 --> 02:07:19.760 Nine she was like a hot dog. Was very shocking. 2450 02:07:22.359 --> 02:07:22.880 Can we put that. 2451 02:07:22.880 --> 02:07:27.119 Out anyone that may have encountered the strange breaking news. 2452 02:07:27.640 --> 02:07:29.960 A group of armed extremists. 2453 02:07:29.720 --> 02:07:30.920 Nasty lads. 2454 02:07:31.319 --> 02:07:34.359 They've taken hostages at a mismeat lunchet for hum Downtown. 2455 02:07:34.560 --> 02:07:35.159 Let's go live. 2456 02:07:35.560 --> 02:08:08.399 Who the fuck are you? The Toxic Avenger? 2457 02:08:08.840 --> 02:08:10.199 That's what the kids are calling him. 2458 02:08:10.199 --> 02:08:15.439 I think it's so well, that's right. 2459 02:08:15.520 --> 02:08:17.279 We'll be back next week with a look at the 2460 02:08:17.479 --> 02:08:20.359 Toxic Avenger twenty twenty three. Until then, I want to 2461 02:08:20.359 --> 02:08:23.279 thank my co host Robin Heather. So, Rob, what's the 2462 02:08:23.359 --> 02:08:23.920 latest with you? 2463 02:08:24.880 --> 02:08:27.640 I have finished my second novel since I moved to 2464 02:08:27.640 --> 02:08:29.520 the High Desert. I send it to you guys. Hopefully 2465 02:08:30.119 --> 02:08:32.720 someone will give me some notes and if you don't 2466 02:08:32.800 --> 02:08:35.199 like it, then I'll just feel stupid and I won't 2467 02:08:35.239 --> 02:08:38.000 go any further with it. I'm just kidding. So I'm 2468 02:08:38.079 --> 02:08:40.159 just working on the writing and enjoying my life. 2469 02:08:40.720 --> 02:08:44.640 You're stupid, You're stupid, you failed, you failed? Well, how 2470 02:08:44.680 --> 02:08:45.560 does that make you feel? 2471 02:08:46.319 --> 02:08:49.880 Pretty good? Actually, because as we were discussing, it's failures 2472 02:08:49.960 --> 02:08:52.279 that people will talk about years from now, so that 2473 02:08:52.359 --> 02:08:55.000 will be nice. Maybe my failures will be my retirement plan, 2474 02:08:55.079 --> 02:08:56.760 because I sure as hell don't have any money in 2475 02:08:56.800 --> 02:08:59.840 the bank right now. Anyway, moving right along. Things are 2476 02:09:00.680 --> 02:09:04.119 enjoying my life and I hope y'all are doing well too. 2477 02:09:04.960 --> 02:09:05.960 And Heather, what's new with you? 2478 02:09:07.039 --> 02:09:09.680 Just wrap up being a guest on The Director's Club 2479 02:09:09.720 --> 02:09:14.079 podcast hosted by Jim LECOWSKEI with Mike White. We talked 2480 02:09:14.119 --> 02:09:17.800 about Horda Rowski, one of my absolute our heroes. Yeah, 2481 02:09:18.680 --> 02:09:20.640 where you talking about Santa Song great and Holy Mountain 2482 02:09:20.720 --> 02:09:23.960 that is up live so you can find that. I 2483 02:09:24.079 --> 02:09:27.479 was also recently on an episode of In Film We 2484 02:09:27.560 --> 02:09:32.600 Trust talking about Russ Meyer Supervixen's for all other Sundrys. 2485 02:09:32.760 --> 02:09:36.159 I've always got something cooking and I'm actually currently working 2486 02:09:36.159 --> 02:09:38.399 on a little thing for the youtubes right now. But 2487 02:09:38.600 --> 02:09:40.520 you can go to my link tree linktree dot com 2488 02:09:40.640 --> 02:09:44.039 forward slash Mondo Heather. You'll find my articles, my websites, 2489 02:09:44.119 --> 02:09:47.399 my Patreon, whatch website, singular how don't know why make 2490 02:09:47.479 --> 02:09:50.920 the plural wish we'll thinking, and all sort of other matters. 2491 02:09:51.239 --> 02:09:53.960 But yes, linktree dot com for a slash Mondo Heather. 2492 02:09:54.800 --> 02:09:56.680 Thanks again, folks for being on the show. Thanks to 2493 02:09:56.720 --> 02:09:59.000 everybody for listening. 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If you want to join the community, 2505 02:10:27.399 --> 02:10:30.600 visit patreon dot com. Slash projection booth. Every donation we 2506 02:10:30.720 --> 02:10:31.960 get help some projection booth. 2507 02:10:32.039 --> 02:10:33.039 Take over the world. 2508 02:10:50.159 --> 02:10:52.760 On your lips. Pabama's on your lips and if you 2509 02:10:52.840 --> 02:10:54.680 don't like it, you can suck my disk. 2510 02:10:54.760 --> 02:10:58.279 I used to trip like Superman, go downtown, run around 2511 02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:01.720 bike a asshole, fucking a man, a man on the sweet. 2512 02:11:01.800 --> 02:11:04.560 He was sixty years old. He wanted to fight, so 2513 02:11:04.760 --> 02:11:06.680 he punched me in the notes because I asked him 2514 02:11:06.680 --> 02:11:09.479 wherever he's going? He said, nothing, your business, snap my 2515 02:11:09.600 --> 02:11:12.199 mic in two. I said, what is this? My Bama's 2516 02:11:12.239 --> 02:11:12.800 on your lips. 2517 02:11:12.960 --> 02:11:15.600 Babama's on your lips hard to day you lose an 2518 02:11:15.640 --> 02:11:19.119 EMPTV four cass to make people break out suckers to 2519 02:11:19.279 --> 02:11:22.279 yell damn, madamn, talk about it in my favorite rap. 2520 02:11:22.399 --> 02:11:25.319 I used to wake up my parents. Then Bam stole it. 2521 02:11:25.560 --> 02:11:27.600 People dip it in the bag of tricks now they 2522 02:11:27.680 --> 02:11:31.199 don't be surprised if Johnny starts to wrap bottle you 2523 02:11:31.319 --> 02:11:34.239 with his style in a Von Dutch hat. My purpose 2524 02:11:34.319 --> 02:11:36.560 on your tips, bapomas on your lips. 2525 02:11:36.479 --> 02:11:38.760 And you, if you get lucky, you could suck my dish. 2526 02:11:38.840 --> 02:11:41.239 Let me write my bamas on your tips, papomas on 2527 02:11:41.359 --> 02:11:43.520 your lips, and if you don't like it, you could 2528 02:11:43.560 --> 02:11:44.359 suck my dis. 2529 02:11:44.439 --> 02:11:47.319 I used to fall down punches seeing what would happen, 2530 02:11:47.640 --> 02:11:49.279 swam in the oceana sharks. 2531 02:11:49.359 --> 02:11:50.079 Now I'm laughing. 2532 02:11:50.319 --> 02:11:53.359 Execute your tips to gravitate to the PiZZ and if 2533 02:11:53.399 --> 02:11:55.279 you don't like it, then you shot like Jim. 2534 02:11:55.399 --> 02:11:58.039 Don't pay attention to your back, smile and shake. 2535 02:11:58.079 --> 02:12:01.039 You can try to do something clever, goodness safe, like 2536 02:12:01.159 --> 02:12:03.880 you were aerobics with a bunch of old ladies and 2537 02:12:04.000 --> 02:12:04.920 wear pink. 2538 02:12:04.720 --> 02:12:07.319 Tis like it is the Nie Dad. He's okay, not 2539 02:12:07.479 --> 02:12:09.159 so clever. Look it for a laugh. 2540 02:12:09.279 --> 02:12:11.439 But got stuck in handcuffs a couple of times in 2541 02:12:11.520 --> 02:12:13.520 the past to open up bank account. 2542 02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:16.359 And now it's I guess the critics and the media 2543 02:12:16.439 --> 02:12:19.760 could save the pot. My pama's on your lips. Bapama's 2544 02:12:19.840 --> 02:12:20.439 on your lips. 2545 02:12:20.640 --> 02:12:23.000 I used to act tony and talk a lot of shit, 2546 02:12:23.079 --> 02:12:26.600 and then I'm to Hollywood and got conservative. I didn't 2547 02:12:26.640 --> 02:12:29.399 want to piss anyone off in the bitess the media 2548 02:12:29.560 --> 02:12:29.840 could do. 2549 02:12:30.000 --> 02:12:32.479 You up like a machine. But meles wobble around it. 2550 02:12:32.600 --> 02:12:34.880 Don't fall down to what I mean. I used to 2551 02:12:34.960 --> 02:12:37.840 have cancer. I just beat it. You want to try 2552 02:12:37.920 --> 02:12:39.760 to take me out, you'll be defeated. 2553 02:12:39.960 --> 02:12:42.279 I like to do things that have never been done, 2554 02:12:42.359 --> 02:12:45.479 so if but kind of strange. That's the reason. My 2555 02:12:45.600 --> 02:12:48.560 bamas on your lips. Papama's on your lips, And if 2556 02:12:48.600 --> 02:12:50.720 you don't like it, I think they'll take a ship. 2557 02:12:50.920 --> 02:12:53.279 Papamas on your lips, Babama's on your. 2558 02:12:53.239 --> 02:12:55.239 Lips, and then if you don't like it, you could 2559 02:12:55.279 --> 02:12:56.000 sup my dip. 2560 02:12:56.479 --> 02:12:59.000 I went to Japan, told a monkey and my pan 2561 02:12:59.439 --> 02:13:02.760 kicked up subway. But Charlie chan a pocket full of 2562 02:13:02.920 --> 02:13:06.359 chicken feed for the chickens. Sat in my hotel read 2563 02:13:06.439 --> 02:13:07.399 some shop chickens. 2564 02:13:07.680 --> 02:13:09.640 Then I'll be back to the USA. 2565 02:13:09.920 --> 02:13:12.039 I had a quickie rubber shamp with the boss to 2566 02:13:12.159 --> 02:13:15.079 celebrate a took a ship into toilet, then I took 2567 02:13:15.119 --> 02:13:15.560 the drink. 2568 02:13:15.920 --> 02:13:18.199 Then I stopped worrying in about what you think. I 2569 02:13:18.319 --> 02:13:21.359 put my face on the TV acting like a jackass. 2570 02:13:21.680 --> 02:13:24.760 You couldn't brustle you bring a back draft. I'm glad 2571 02:13:24.800 --> 02:13:27.239 you followed in my steps with that actress not on me. 2572 02:13:27.319 --> 02:13:29.399 Then you're bikey. But now no one knows is wacky 2573 02:13:29.520 --> 02:13:30.760 is my MoMA's on your lips. 2574 02:13:30.920 --> 02:13:33.479 Paboma's on your lips, and if you don't like it, 2575 02:13:33.560 --> 02:13:36.319 I think you'll take a ship the promise on your lips. 2576 02:13:36.439 --> 02:13:38.920 Pa Boma's on your lips, and if you don't like it, 2577 02:13:39.039 --> 02:13:40.640 you can suck my shop.