1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hello, friends, and welcome to Theme Party the podcast. I'm 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,639 your host, Maretta mos In case this is your first 3 00:00:05,679 --> 00:00:08,240 time listening, here's what we're doing. Every season, I pick 4 00:00:08,279 --> 00:00:09,880 a theme and our team comes up with their own 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,560 ideas for an audio drama that somehow fits the theme, 6 00:00:12,839 --> 00:00:14,400 even if it only fits if you put it in 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,239 one of those vacuum seal bags that suck out all 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,440 the year to make it more compact. Once I have 9 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:20,879 made their episode, I invite them here to talk about it. 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,519 I am thrilled to be here today with my party guest, 11 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,480 Alisa Petrie. Hello. Alisa is a singer and voice actor 12 00:00:27,559 --> 00:00:31,239 working in the Lexington Fayette metropolitan area in Kentucky. Originally 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,560 from the Tri Cities area of East Tennessee, she has 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,159 been involved in many theater productions and musicals in her 15 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,799 community over the years. In Colluding, The King and I, 16 00:00:39,079 --> 00:00:41,719 Guys and Dolls, Much Ado About Nothing, The Music Man, 17 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:45,479 and My Fair Lady. Alisa is a podcast director, sound designer, 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,119 and voice actor. If you're a fan of Peculiar Radio, 19 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,840 you may recognize her as Mackenzie mac harrison, and she 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,560 has recently taken on the role of the executive producer 21 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,359 and the voice of Moira Graves in the collection of 22 00:00:56,439 --> 00:00:57,240 Moira Graves. 23 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:02,679 Speaker 2: Alisa, please sell Hello, Hello, I love it. Welcome. I'm 24 00:01:02,679 --> 00:01:03,600 so glad you're here. 25 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,879 Speaker 1: Congratulations on launching your show by the way. 26 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,799 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you. 27 00:01:09,799 --> 00:01:11,239 Speaker 1: You've put so much work into it. 28 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: Oh oh, it's been an absolute whirlwind. But I am 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,519 so so excited to finally like bring this project that 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,680 me and a whole bunch of other people have been 31 00:01:20,719 --> 00:01:23,799 working on for six months. So oh, I'm so happy 32 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:26,319 that people are like here to enjoy it and can 33 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,400 like finally receive it. 34 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,159 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that you bring up that it's 35 00:01:30,239 --> 00:01:32,920 been only six months, and considering when we first started 36 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,799 with Peculiar Radio that we did that in was it 37 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,079 three years or four years? I can't even remember how 38 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,879 long it took a ticket that first season out there, 39 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,000 But good job, what a fast turned around. 40 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 3: I a thank you. 41 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Yes, good job taking the compliment. 42 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: But also like I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been 43 00:01:50,239 --> 00:01:54,239 able to remotely do it without all y'all at lengthy tangents. 44 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:56,439 So it's also like a thank you to you guys too. 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,359 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we're here for Welcome. 46 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:05,319 Speaker 3: It has been an absolute wild ride and I am very, 47 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:08,960 very proud and impressed of my team for us actually 48 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,400 doing this in such a short period of time. But 49 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,080 totally we are taking more time for season two. 50 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,719 Speaker 1: Yes, learn those lessons everybody, But I mean, if you 51 00:02:18,719 --> 00:02:20,879 can do it, great, If you don't have to, why 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,919 do it exactly? Yeah, I like to start the show 53 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,400 out with a question for myself, asking myself, what kind 54 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,319 of party do I think you would be? Were you 55 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,800 Elisa to be a party? Okay, this might be a 56 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,120 little too all the nose and I might be influenced 57 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,240 by the collection of Moira Graves a little bit, but 58 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,719 I think that you would be a Halloween themed gaming 59 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,240 party would be my guest. I'm thinking friends gathered around 60 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,560 the table playing some ttorpgs, scary movies on the TV 61 00:02:50,719 --> 00:02:53,120 in the background. Maybe some people aren't paying attention to 62 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,960 the game because they're watching the movies a little bit 63 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,800 too much. And snacks that are very game friendly, so 64 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,919 they're not getting your fingers too dirty. They're not too messy, 65 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:03,080 but they're still delicious. Do you agree or disagree with 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:03,719 this assessment? 67 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: I feel that is pretty close. The only substitution I 68 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:11,879 would make is I would do board games instead of 69 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,240 TTRPGs because those take like a lot more work and 70 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,520 stuff like that as well as, uh like, especially if 71 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,400 you're doing like horror like themed TTRPGs. You know, everyone's 72 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:25,240 got to come with like the right mindset, you know, 73 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,639 to really like get the most out of those. That's 74 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:29,719 I think the biggest change that I would make. 75 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,439 Speaker 1: But the rest of it, Yes, do you have a 76 00:03:31,439 --> 00:03:33,719 board game that you're particularly into right now? 77 00:03:33,759 --> 00:03:38,879 Speaker 3: Honestly, like it's an old kind of a mainstay in 78 00:03:39,159 --> 00:03:42,000 my board game collection, by I really enjoy Betrayal at 79 00:03:42,039 --> 00:03:42,639 House on the Hill. 80 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Ah, so good. 81 00:03:43,919 --> 00:03:47,159 Speaker 3: It's just so fun. It's so many different scenarios. And 82 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:50,520 then like the balders Gate version that came out like 83 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,000 four to five years later, Oh yes, highly recommend it 84 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:55,759 is also very very good, and I feel like they 85 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,680 actually did improvements unlike some of the systems from the 86 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,639 trailer at House of the Hills. So there you go. 87 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,159 Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, I've played through it several times, I could 88 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:07,520 safely say several times with some friends, and we have 89 00:04:07,639 --> 00:04:10,080 not dabbled in any of the expansion packs or updated 90 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:11,879 versions or anything like that. Because we still have a 91 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:14,439 lot more to play through of the original, but it's 92 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:18,639 so satisfying to play through and like try to decide 93 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,720 how much you're going to help your teammates or how 94 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,160 much you're going to collaborate before the haunt begins. There's 95 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,879 absolutely no way to know who's going to be the villain. 96 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:30,639 Spoilers for anybody who hasn't played the game, but you 97 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:32,879 should just play the game. It's really good. Yeah, Okay, 98 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,240 I like that. I'm definitely more into more games than TTRPGs, 99 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:39,439 So one hundred percent on board with all of that. 100 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,759 So the theme for this season of theme party of 101 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:50,399 the podcast is family Traditions. Did your story fit the theme? Yes, fantastic. 102 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,439 Do you want to expand more on that, Yeah, I 103 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:54,680 feel like it kind of. 104 00:04:54,959 --> 00:04:58,079 Speaker 3: It happens both in like the framing device part of 105 00:04:58,079 --> 00:04:59,959 the story as well as the horror story. It's alf 106 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:05,120 like Moira, she's from a family that has had special 107 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:08,160 gifts like going back generational generation and stuff like that, 108 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:10,680 so there's a little bit of that there. But then 109 00:05:10,759 --> 00:05:14,439 also in the horror story itself, it's very much centered 110 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:20,120 around a older woman and her son and how they're 111 00:05:20,199 --> 00:05:23,800 budding heads more and more and more, and like she's 112 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,439 done what she thought that she's needed to do for 113 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:30,120 herself for her family, and her son is like, I 114 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,920 don't know about that. So so it's an interesting I mean, 115 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,639 she's pretty terrible, yeah, no bones about it. She's pretty awful, 116 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,079 but also like she has justified it to herself. Let's 117 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,240 say that she needed to go to these lengths to 118 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,680 make things secure for herself, for her son, for her family, 119 00:05:50,199 --> 00:05:54,759 and then her son was like, yeah, no, I disagree 120 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,160 a lot. So yeah, so there's very much Moira is 121 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:03,360 continuing this inheritance of her family, while the son Michael 122 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,040 is like, yeah, no, I'm not. 123 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,519 Speaker 1: About this true. All right. Your episode is called The 124 00:06:08,519 --> 00:06:10,759 Collection of Moyra Graves. It is in fact the pilot 125 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,920 for your series, The Collection of Moira Graves. Could you 126 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:16,639 read us your tagline and your log line. 127 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:26,519 Speaker 4: Yes, she has a horde of stories waiting to be told, solitary, eccentric, 128 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,120 psychic shares spine tingling tales from her eerie collection, unintentionally 129 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,199 drawing together an eclectic and spirited community. 130 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: I could cut you off and say I like the 131 00:06:37,079 --> 00:06:39,800 wavy fingers just in like the corner of your screen. 132 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:42,879 Speaker 3: Listen. That's one of the things I love about voice 133 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:45,480 acting is I could do whatever with my face with 134 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,319 my hands and it doesn't matter because it's only my 135 00:06:48,399 --> 00:06:49,800 voice that's getting recorder. 136 00:06:50,199 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: Or it does matter because it can get your voice 137 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,680 to do things that maybe the little weavy fingers without it. 138 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: Wouldn't do that so exactly, because you know, this is 139 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,399 the woo woo, this is like the bookie. 140 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: It's all the handring or you're tickling somebody exactly. Alisa's 141 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:10,639 roles in making this episode of the Collection of Moira 142 00:07:10,759 --> 00:07:14,920 Graves include executive producer, writer, director, casting, sound design, and 143 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,800 production coordination. Let's listen to a sample of your episode. 144 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:24,639 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Collection of Moira Graves. 145 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: Please come in. 146 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:31,639 Speaker 4: Elizabeth vowed that when she grew up she would always 147 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:35,160 have more than enough for the rest of her life. 148 00:07:36,439 --> 00:07:37,439 Speaker 2: You're not leaving? 149 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:41,959 Speaker 1: What the hell? 150 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,639 Speaker 3: I guess it's too late. 151 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:50,079 Speaker 1: Now, Alisa, is there another podcast that inspired you to 152 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,120 make your own podcast? And if so, what is the goodness? 153 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed the podcast Video Palace, which is a 154 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,360 horror podcast. It's very much old sort of in universe 155 00:08:02,959 --> 00:08:06,360 with these people kind of going out and like interviewing 156 00:08:06,399 --> 00:08:10,000 people with like a little like handheld recorder or video 157 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,920 camera or whatever like that, and there's something about it 158 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:17,199 that I found really like immersive and interesting and stuff 159 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,560 like that. And then wow, know this isn't this might 160 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,319 be like a little like brown nosy Answer, but also 161 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:24,959 like peculiar Radio. I mean it's you know, working with 162 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,160 you guys that I was like, Oh, I think I 163 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,079 might be able to do this. And then Lengthy Tangent 164 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,840 put out the call for podcast ideas and I was like, 165 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,799 you know what, put something together. Let me like give 166 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:37,159 this a go. 167 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: I love that. 168 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: Oh I love that for you. Okay, yes, absolutely, I 169 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,080 am personally a huge fan of brown nosing, So don't 170 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,600 ever apologize for personally who doesn't love being flattered. 171 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:50,519 Speaker 3: It's true. 172 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very true. Sure, what about things outside of podcasting? 173 00:08:53,879 --> 00:08:56,120 Was there anything else that inspired you to make specifically 174 00:08:56,159 --> 00:08:57,320 like a horror podcast? 175 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I love horror just period. Like I 176 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:09,320 growing up, despite being a like scaredy cat, somehow I 177 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,200 still found myself reading scary stories to tell them the dark. 178 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,200 Like I would rent it from like my school's library, 179 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,679 and it had like the original drawings that were like 180 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,720 the like really creepy, like sketchy, drippy drawings, and they. 181 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: Were so good. 182 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,799 Speaker 1: They're so good but also so traumatic. Yes, among our 183 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:30,039 generation doesn't know those books and think back just like. 184 00:09:30,039 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: But it was so good. Then. 185 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: I also watched a whole lot of Are You Afraid 186 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,120 of the Dark? Submitted for the approval of the Midnight 187 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:40,399 Society and all that. I was on the swim team 188 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:43,440 when I was in elementary school and middle school a 189 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,960 little bit, and the episode of Are You Afraid of 190 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,120 the Dark that's about the swimming pool monster and like 191 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:53,840 the smell that's a lot like chlorine. Oh, there were 192 00:09:53,919 --> 00:09:56,559 some swim practices where if I had just watched that 193 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,440 episode that I was like, I just going to go 194 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,080 very quickly from the pole to the locker room and out. 195 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,279 Uh oh bad. But yeah, for the longest time, I 196 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,080 enjoyed like reading it, but I didn't like watch horror movies. 197 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,440 I didn't want to go to like Haunted Attractions or 198 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,120 anything like that. But like after college something changed where 199 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,399 I was like, you know what, I'm gonna give horror 200 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,240 movies and stuff like that a whole nother try. So 201 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,159 I ended up actually working as a scare actor for 202 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,360 five years at a local haunted attraction, and then my 203 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:32,679 dream job being behind the scenes for that kind of 204 00:10:32,759 --> 00:10:36,159 like made horror movies more approachable in like my brain 205 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,519 for some reason. So then I just dived full in 206 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:43,080 into watching all the horror movies. And yeah, I'm a 207 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,720 full on horror buff. 208 00:10:44,799 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: Now are you yourself afraid of like haunted houses and 209 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,159 haunted hey ride kind of situations or not anymore? 210 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:53,759 Speaker 3: Like I still get like the thrill out of it, 211 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,840 but having worked at one kind of removed a little 212 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,080 bit of the mystique enough to where it doesn't like 213 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:01,480 super duper get to me. But like I can still 214 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:04,759 go and have fun, and I can appreciate what the 215 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,639 actors are bringing, like how the haunt itself is like 216 00:11:08,759 --> 00:11:13,679 establishing like their atmosphere and stuff like that. So yeah, 217 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:16,919 so I now go to them as much as I 218 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,320 can every Halloween season, and I very much enjoy it. 219 00:11:21,399 --> 00:11:23,879 Speaker 1: I am not that person. I'm the type of person 220 00:11:23,919 --> 00:11:25,480 I have to go with someone who is going to 221 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:28,279 be more scared than I am, So I am not 222 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,679 so scared. I can appreciate how afraid they are and 223 00:11:30,759 --> 00:11:33,000 kind of laugh at like, ha ha ha, you're so scared. 224 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,879 Of things. But if I don't have that person, I 225 00:11:34,919 --> 00:11:41,639 am that person, gotcha. I don't know, maybe I'm bad. 226 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: I mean, that's one of the reasons why I get 227 00:11:44,639 --> 00:11:47,159 a kick out of going with my sister is because, 228 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,120 bless her heart, she has like mark written all over 229 00:11:52,159 --> 00:11:55,720 her when it comes to like scary stuff. I've been 230 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,399 working with her a little bit, you know, to like 231 00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:00,440 things that she can do, to not broadcast to all 232 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,000 the scare actors in the world that she's the one 233 00:12:03,039 --> 00:12:07,120 you want to pick on. But but yeah, I enjoy 234 00:12:07,399 --> 00:12:12,000 going with her and see here get upset delightful in 235 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:13,759 a fun way like she's there, but you know, because 236 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:15,799 she wants to have fun too, But she gets picked 237 00:12:15,799 --> 00:12:16,200 on a lot. 238 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want anybody to need therapy for our benefit, 239 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,960 exactly if they're having a good time, and our good 240 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,440 time can be parallel to theirs, but not necessarily for 241 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:30,600 the same reason. Everybody's fine, exactly, It's all good, exactly. Yeah, 242 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:35,440 all right, fantastic And scene for the collection of murder graves. 243 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,200 Since this is your first time making your own episode 244 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:41,399 and own series all by yourself, there must have been 245 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,840 some production roles that you've taken on for the first time. 246 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,639 I mean, we already went over which ones you did 247 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:47,360 for the show, but can you tell us which ones 248 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,320 it was your first time doing it and give us 249 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,480 a little taste of how it went. 250 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,399 Speaker 3: The two biggest ones was being producer and then being 251 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,559 part of the casting as well, like I fully did 252 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:03,120 the casting for this episode of Fiend Party, and then yeah, 253 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:06,639 being a producer just in general. Yeah, it's the first 254 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:07,879 time I've ever done that. 255 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,039 Speaker 1: Producer for me, when I first started doing it was like, 256 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,159 I've seen that word many times. I don't know what 257 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,320 it means. You know, like you produce a thing, but 258 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,600 everybody else is producing things. How is that different? 259 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: You know? So right, Yeah, it's like in actually doing it, 260 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:29,919 you're like, oh, I'm facilitating the producing. Yeah, it's interesting, 261 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,720 Like it actually itches like a part of my brain 262 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:34,639 that likes to make schedules and like half things all 263 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,919 nice and lined up and being like, Okay, once that's done, 264 00:13:36,919 --> 00:13:38,320 then we do want to do this, and then oh 265 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,440 I need to go back to this and blah blah blah. 266 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,039 It's also a part of my brain that's like there 267 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,679 are so many things, there's so many little small things. 268 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:48,039 I feel like I'm dying. 269 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,279 Speaker 1: Really is a lot, and also the fact that so 270 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,559 many of those things depend on the labor of other 271 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:59,039 people to move them along too. It's welcome. Welcome, Yes, yes, 272 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:04,639 it is hello. It is both maddening and so satisfying, 273 00:14:04,799 --> 00:14:08,080 especially like I know I'm biased, but our team. I 274 00:14:08,159 --> 00:14:10,600 love our team so much. Like I mean, so many 275 00:14:10,639 --> 00:14:13,279 of us have met in person, not just through the internet, 276 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:17,120 but I don't know, We're great and I'm really excited 277 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,960 that we get to be all on the same team 278 00:14:19,039 --> 00:14:22,600 or okay, god making fun stories and stuff together. So anyway, this. 279 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:23,759 Speaker 3: Has been Yeah, it's great. 280 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:27,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. What about sound designing a full episode from top 281 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,919 to bottom on your own? This is your first time 282 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,039 doing that, right, Yes. 283 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:32,519 Speaker 3: First time to that. 284 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:32,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 285 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: I helped Lindsey Fawn, who's done a lot of sound 286 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,080 design for Peculiar Radio, so I was basically like her 287 00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:42,919 assistant for quite a few of the episodes that she did. 288 00:14:42,919 --> 00:14:45,080 But yeah, this was my very first time, you know, 289 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:49,639 from the ground up, completely building out multiple scenes an 290 00:14:49,799 --> 00:14:52,279 entire episode and having to think of flow and things 291 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,320 like that. And then with horror it adds in a 292 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:00,639 whole nother layer of considerations and sound design like effects 293 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:02,279 that you need to be thinking about things like that 294 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,360 because you're not trying to just make it sound real 295 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:08,320 and immersive, You're also trying to make it scary. So 296 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:10,759 it has to go through like both filters in order 297 00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:12,799 for something to be like Okay, yes I can use 298 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,240 that there. It needs to sound like it fits with 299 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:18,639 them the scene, but also like is it aiding the tension? 300 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:20,679 Is it aiding the scare? Is it aiding you know, 301 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,399 whatever is the thing of the moment? 302 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeap, totally agree. And I wanted to point out too 303 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:29,759 that as we were talking about how you wanted this 304 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:33,679 show to be relatable to the audience, you mentioned that 305 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:37,879 you wanted this to be accessively scary, so not over 306 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:41,559 the top like gore or anything that's going to be 307 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,320 something you have to shut off really quick if the 308 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,159 kids walk into the room or something like that, right right, Yeah. 309 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: I have found that getting into horror myself, that I 310 00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:52,399 feel like a big barrier why it took me so 311 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:56,240 long to dive into horror movies, that I felt like, 312 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,559 at least for someone who wasn't already part of the 313 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,320 commune and I could get feedback and ask for recommendations 314 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,919 and stuff like that, it felt like there wasn't a 315 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,440 really good in between step to like get you into 316 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:16,720 like horror movies or horror media as like a broader thing. 317 00:16:16,879 --> 00:16:18,639 You know. We had our scary stories to tell in 318 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:21,559 the dark, our goosebumps are are you afraid of the 319 00:16:21,639 --> 00:16:24,720 dark and all that, But at least again, as someone 320 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,519 who was a bit of an outsider training to get in, 321 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:28,919 it felt like there was no step between that and 322 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:34,519 then Blair Witch Project or Grave Encounters or it, you know, 323 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:38,960 heaven forbid, I watched it before I was ready for it, 324 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,879 you know, or Terrifier. 325 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm not familiar. I'm not as big into the horror 326 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,080 genre as you, so I may have to google that 327 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:47,600 one later. 328 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:50,799 Speaker 3: It's very gore heavy, Okay, I will just put it 329 00:16:50,919 --> 00:16:54,480 like that, and it's of a specific brand of gore 330 00:16:55,039 --> 00:16:58,399 that is not everybody's cup of tea. Let's put it 331 00:16:58,519 --> 00:17:03,120 like that. So if I had watched that specifically like 332 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,279 kind of early in my days of like getting into 333 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:07,720 horror movies, I probably would have been put off for 334 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:09,839 a little bit longer. Sure, So, Yeah, so that was 335 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,160 part of why I wanted at least, you know, in 336 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,400 my section of the world and what I can do, Like, 337 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,000 I wanted something that'd be more proper quote unquote horror. 338 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,400 It's a little more scary, but it's not full balls 339 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,079 to the wall that you can easily stumble across when 340 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,160 just going down the list of like you know, twenty 341 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,640 or thirty top horror movies or whatever. So I hope 342 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,359 that this is something that can like be a good 343 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:40,480 entry point for people to like come into the horror 344 00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:44,000 space because I feel like there's a lot of interesting 345 00:17:44,039 --> 00:17:47,240 stories that can be told with horror, and the more 346 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:49,519 people who get into horror means the more people I 347 00:17:49,559 --> 00:17:50,400 have to talk about it. 348 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: So do you like a lot of jump scares in 349 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,519 your horror? Since you don't tend towards the extra gore 350 00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:03,200 at least, do you like being jump scared? 351 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: I feel like it's a balance if it's nothing but 352 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:10,519 jump scares, where like the scary music is building, and 353 00:18:12,079 --> 00:18:14,920 or it's a psych out jump scare where it's like 354 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,640 building the scary the music's come in and the characters 355 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,440 what is happening, and then it turns out to be 356 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,839 like a cat that's like jumping in and frame. I 357 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,000 feel like those can do a good job and be useful. 358 00:18:28,039 --> 00:18:30,920 But if the movie is nothing but that, it's not 359 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,079 so much that it scares me. It's more so just 360 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,599 a certain point, I get a little annoyed. 361 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. I don't like jump scary movies. I do 362 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:44,039 not like the tension. I personally don't mind gore. But 363 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,480 if something's gonna jump out at me and surprise me, no, no, thank. 364 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: You, I feel like it there's a time and place 365 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,519 because they can do a good job of either you know, 366 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,319 ratcheting up the tension and then like releasing it so 367 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,240 that way reset your attention level and like, you know, 368 00:18:58,279 --> 00:19:00,440 the movie can go on and it's fine, or you 369 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,480 can use it as a the monster is around the 370 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:06,240 corner and like getting the breathing, the adrenaline, all that 371 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,720 sort of stuff, getting it raised up and going so 372 00:19:08,759 --> 00:19:11,079 that way you are like primed and ready for like 373 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,039 the chase sequence that is about to happen. Yeah, I 374 00:19:14,039 --> 00:19:18,359 feel like it has a place, yep, in horror movies. 375 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,599 But if yeah, if it's nothing but that, yeah, it's 376 00:19:20,839 --> 00:19:22,599 it doesn't scare me. I just get annoyed at it 377 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,559 and it's like, come come on. 378 00:19:23,799 --> 00:19:24,039 Speaker 4: Yeah. 379 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,759 Speaker 1: Presumably some people like that, feeling so good for them 380 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,039 I'm glad there's something for you. 381 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,559 Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't mind jump scares. Gore in general 382 00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:34,759 doesn't bug me. But there's like a certain level where 383 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:35,759 I'm like, all right, I'm. 384 00:19:35,599 --> 00:19:36,279 Speaker 1: Out, that's fine. 385 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,319 Speaker 3: Uh, And then yeah, I really I do think overall 386 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,240 I enjoy kind of more atmospheric stuff where it has 387 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:44,880 like this like low level of tension that kind of 388 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:50,079 like increases and decreases, but it's more about like getting 389 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,599 you like pulled in and sucked in and like just 390 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,400 being part of the story. I think those are like 391 00:19:54,519 --> 00:19:56,519 the ones that end up sticking with me the most. 392 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: Gotcha, Well, that was a very lengthy tangent beyond I'm 393 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,440 going to keep seeing the name of the thing. Well, 394 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,119 thank you for taking that little walk with me to 395 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,519 talk about stuff not related to the question I just 396 00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:10,839 asked you. That's fine, Absolutely happy to to bring it 397 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,240 back to the topic at hand. Though, For listeners that 398 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,640 might be interested in making their own podcasts themselves, or 399 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,200 what software or workshop or equipment did you find most 400 00:20:20,279 --> 00:20:22,680 useful in making the collection of wibor grapes, I. 401 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,559 Speaker 3: Would say, if you're looking for like sound design and 402 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:31,240 stuff like that, find yourself some good sound libraries that'll 403 00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:36,119 make your life so much easier when you're trying to 404 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:43,519 find that specific vibe, sound effect, whatever sample. Having those 405 00:20:43,559 --> 00:20:45,480 libraries kind of good to go that you can immediately 406 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:48,720 go in and you know, put in your search terms 407 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,359 and have stuff pop out, versus trying to troll the 408 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,519 internet finding your stuff or hoping YouTube. Like the things 409 00:20:57,519 --> 00:20:59,839 you find on YouTube are free use and hopefully they're 410 00:20:59,839 --> 00:21:02,279 good enough quality and I can use them. So yeah, 411 00:21:02,319 --> 00:21:05,839 having those just like ready to go from the get 412 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,279 go is just such a weight off the shoulders. And 413 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:15,000 then for producing, the biggest thing that helped me was 414 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,400 a website called win is Good, which I have found 415 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,599 very very helpful in terms of establishing availabilities and stuff 416 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:24,960 like that, and it's completely free to use. And then, 417 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,720 like I think the biggest thing from a producer's side 418 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,519 of things is set deadlines. Like even if you're not 419 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,200 actually pressed for time or have a specific date that 420 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,880 you need or want to get this project out of, 421 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,720 just having deadlines set period for your writers, for your 422 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,759 casting people and stuff like that just it keeps the 423 00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:55,359 project in everybody's brains. If there is something written down, 424 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,559 even if it's nebulous like this date doesn't actually matter, 425 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,279 So just having something written down as like a focus 426 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:06,759 or a goal point or something like that just helps 427 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:10,079 keep the project in everybody's brains and can help like 428 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,000 whip that forward momentum and like making sure this thing 429 00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:13,920 is actually getting done. 430 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: Yep, that makes a ton of sense. And just finding 431 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,519 that if people have stuff on their schedule that comes 432 00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:22,599 up that makes that deadline not work out, then you 433 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:26,000 by setting the deadline probably earlier than what you actually 434 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:28,920 would need if you do need to have a deadline, 435 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,359 then you have that little wiggle room later on in 436 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,200 the production time. So yeah, that is excellent advice. I 437 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:38,880 think I will point out for the sound libraries we've 438 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,319 used Soundly for lengthy tangent, I believe that you had 439 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,960 used audio hero as another resource for your sound Yes, yes, yes, 440 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,279 so if anybody's looking for specific recommendations, I personally love Soundly, 441 00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:53,920 and there's other audio libraries out there. There are ways 442 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,720 that you can purchase audio packs from different sources and 443 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,759 upload them into Soundly so they're easily accessible and I 444 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:02,279 just love their interface as well. 445 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 3: Oh and also keep an eye on humble Bundle. Oh yeah, 446 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,079 I actually purchased and downloaded quite a few different sound 447 00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:13,640 packs and things like that from humble Bundle, and they 448 00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:16,680 you know, they periodically rotate through stuff, So keep an 449 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,200 eye out there, because I think I downloaded like three 450 00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:22,599 or four different sound packs and least at least some 451 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,279 of it ended up being used in this episode of 452 00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:26,119 Theme Party. 453 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,839 Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a good deal. And don't they 454 00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,920 also donate to charities and stuff too, So I mean, 455 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:35,480 you can't go wrong. It's good stuff. Yeah. On that note, 456 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,880 the character Michael played by the incredible Molly Michaelson didn't 457 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,160 skid daddle when they had their chance before the demon 458 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,240 entered the room in your episode, in your experience, presumably 459 00:23:47,279 --> 00:23:50,400 without demons crashing the party, what is the biggest hint 460 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,720 that it's time to leave or end the party? Oh? 461 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 3: Man? For me, it's when, especially the host is kind 462 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,960 of just stand around. There's less and less like engagement 463 00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:07,359 happening with not only the people that are guests there, 464 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,359 but also the host. Honestly, I just look at the 465 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,480 host and if they're starting to look tired, all right, cool, 466 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:14,440 I'm out and considerate. Allow me to dip out so 467 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,119 that way you can go to bed yep or like 468 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,680 before I dip out, be like can I take some 469 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:23,559 trash out for you or just something like that. Yeah. 470 00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:26,160 I usually look at the host as my barometer of 471 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,240 like how much longer am I sticking around? Or is 472 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,920 it time to let them go to sleep? 473 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: You are a long lasting person at a party, You're 474 00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:36,440 usually not the one that's like, oh well, look at 475 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,440 the time, it's time to go. 476 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,599 Speaker 3: No. I mean, if anything, I'm an introvert, so I 477 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,880 don't need I. 478 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,559 Speaker 1: Know, for the audience. Just listening to the audio, my 479 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,160 face did a thing and I'm surprised, I know. 480 00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:53,559 Speaker 3: So you know, introvert extrovert. It's all about how where 481 00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:55,960 you get your energy from, like how you recharge. 482 00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:56,319 Speaker 1: Yep. 483 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 3: My dad major extrovert. If he wasn't being around people 484 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,880 at least every other day, like a big group of people, 485 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,400 he would get twitchy at home and he would get 486 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,519 like I need to be talking to people, I need 487 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:15,759 to be finding out things. But for like myself to recharge, 488 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,839 I need some time to myself. I need to like 489 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,160 completely unplug, throw on a movie I've seen a thousand times, 490 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,400 and just play mobile games on my phone. But when 491 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,759 I'm at a party, like I enjoy being around people, 492 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,160 but I find myself like I'll just like maybe go 493 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,759 sit in a corner and just kind of be on 494 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:35,960 my phone for a little bit, and like, you know, 495 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,960 ten fifteen minutes, Okay, I'm good. I'll let me like 496 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,960 get back in there. So yeah, I end up being 497 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,319 one of the people that sticks around. But it's because 498 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,680 I'm taking little breaks to recharge by social battery. 499 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: Pace yourself, Pace yourself. I love that. I am way 500 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,000 back in high school when I took the introvert extrovert 501 00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:58,759 test in some class or I don't know, like maybe 502 00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:01,759 just my group of friends said it. I was right 503 00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:05,119 on the edge of introvert and extrovert. So I attribute 504 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,480 that to my habit of packing my schedule with too 505 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,039 many things and then crashing after a couple of days 506 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:13,160 and then just being like I have to lay down. 507 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 3: Yes, so I feel that it's been too much that 508 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,319 really hard. I think I know what test you're talking about, 509 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:21,200 and I think I also was like on the border. 510 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,400 I think a little more toward introvert than extrovert. 511 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, we are the same person, but just 512 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,119 split in hat. So I took a little bit more 513 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,680 of one of the more that makes sense kin it works. 514 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 3: But no, you were not the first person to be 515 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,759 surprised by that, because I do a good job, you know, 516 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:40,519 jibber the jabber and and chit chatting with new people 517 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,119 and stuff like that. But it's very much like I 518 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,920 hit a certain point and then I need I just 519 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,359 need to lay peace out. I need to go in 520 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,960 my whole. 521 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:51,519 Speaker 1: The introverts in my life to talk about how they've 522 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,599 unlike extroverts, they've had to learn to like mask their 523 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,400 introversion because it's not generally very polite to just quit 524 00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:03,839 in the middle love an interaction with somebody, so they 525 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,559 have to pretend that they're extroverted. So I guess it's 526 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,559 not that surprising that, especially someone who's on the cusp 527 00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:14,519 of introversion going under the radar and being harder to spot. 528 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,039 So yeah, that makes sense to me. Then if that 529 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,400 is your idea of when it's time to leave a party, 530 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,200 in your opinion, what is an essential element? Every party 531 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,839 must have a good. 532 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: Spread, Like, it doesn't matter if you're watching movies, it 533 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,079 doesn't matter if you're playing board games. It doesn't matter 534 00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:33,279 if you're just there to just chit chat and just 535 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:35,960 hang out or whatever. Catch up with each other. There 536 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,240 needs to be a good food spread. 537 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: And by spread you don't just mean like a dip 538 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,160 to put on crackers or something. 539 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: You need the whole No, no, no, no. We need to 540 00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:45,839 have like options, you know, I need to have some savor. 541 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,680 You need to have some sweet dips are good, A 542 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,799 variety of chips, you know, maybe a couple different kinds 543 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:55,680 of drinks. There needs to be like a good variety 544 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,319 where I feel like I'm at like a little mini 545 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,599 buffet and I can kind of just pick and choose 546 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,960 as my mood suit. 547 00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:04,279 Speaker 1: Spade, Sure, is there a dish that you look forward 548 00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:07,039 to when you go to different events like that you 549 00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:08,160 hope somebody else has brought. 550 00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: There's very little that I'm like, oh, this better be there, 551 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,279 or I'm just walking out the door if it's not there. 552 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,839 But I will say anytime I see those little mini 553 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:20,400 kiches that someone has done, I really like those. Those 554 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,640 are fun. I don't know there's something about them that like, 555 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,519 I know, you just buy them frozen. It's a whole 556 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:27,720 meal in a bike, know, right, And you just buy 557 00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,680 them frozen at your grocery store. They're just in the 558 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,839 freezer section. Or whatever. 559 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,519 Speaker 1: I don't know. 560 00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,279 Speaker 3: They's just something I find really satisfying about those. So 561 00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:38,599 anytime I see these little mini keiches, I guess I 562 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,440 know what I'm getting. 563 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: I think there's an element too of it feels like 564 00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:46,359 you're being the tiniest bit responsible about eating a little 565 00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:48,720 bit healthy because they've got usually they've got some vegetables 566 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:51,079 in them, they got a good amount of protein in them. 567 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,359 But they're so good. 568 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,319 Speaker 3: They're so good, and there's usually like it's usually mixed 569 00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:58,400 with like cheeses and then like whatever little pastry they 570 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,640 used to like encapsulate it in as also really good. 571 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they'd be so finicky to make, especially that 572 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,319 many if you're making them yourself. I used to be 573 00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:08,400 a cook in a hotel and I did not work 574 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,359 the banquet side, but I would sometimes help them out. 575 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,759 And just tiny fiddly foods are delicious, but such a 576 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:19,119 pain in the pain in the butt to make. 577 00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:22,799 Speaker 3: I can only imagine how annoying that would pay to 578 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,200 deal with having it like make sure that it's all 579 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,119 still like warm and at the temperature you want it 580 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,599 to when you like push it out, and oh yeah, no, 581 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,119 thank you. 582 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Well, on that note, is there is there 583 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,519 a recipe or a real life party food or drink 584 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:40,519 that would fit the theme of your episode that you 585 00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:41,400 perhaps would bring to. 586 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: So at like church potlucks growing up and stuff like that, 587 00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:50,799 there would always be the wife of the music pastor. 588 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,359 She would always bring something called death by Chocolate And 589 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,920 it is like really simple. It's literally just a crumbled 590 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,920 up layer of brownie chocolate pudding, whipped cream and then 591 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,720 all of that again, so it's just a trifle. I 592 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,200 think it would basically be like the proper term for it. 593 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,039 But it's just really simple, and it's just really good, 594 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:13,240 and especially like the longer you let it sit in 595 00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:17,400 your fridge, the more it just melds together. And oh 596 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,200 it's so good. 597 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: Cream sugar and chocolate. What more can you want? Like, 598 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,960 h excellen, have you ever tried making one yourself? Or 599 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,599 do you just have to wait until church events to 600 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:26,920 be able? 601 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: So there were a couple times growing up where I 602 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,079 would I'd Pokemom, be like can we can we like 603 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:34,759 buy brownie mix and so like the cool like the 604 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:38,079 cool whip in the thing and like chocolate pudding please, 605 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,480 It's She's like okay. So every once in a while, 606 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,440 I would make my own version. 607 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: But do people still buy and consume cool Whip? 608 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,559 Speaker 1: I feel like as a a Midwestern girly, it was 609 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,839 so prominent in my life growing up, and now as 610 00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:53,400 an adult, I don't know that I've I'm sure it's 611 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,440 in the grocery store, but I. 612 00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:58,039 Speaker 3: Oh, there's lots. There's lots in the grocery store. 613 00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,079 Speaker 1: I'm sure, But who's buying it. 614 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. 615 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: I miss it. I should buy some buy it. You're 616 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,400 doing good work. 617 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,119 Speaker 3: I buy it, and I make something called pumpkin. 618 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:12,599 Speaker 1: Fluff out that is very good. What's pumpkin fluff? 619 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so you take you take a can of pumpkin pure, 620 00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:21,519 a thing of cool Whip, whatever version you want, like 621 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:24,039 less sugar or whatever. No, don't go with like the 622 00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:25,920 fat free because then it like gives it a weird 623 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,480 texture and I would never have good excellent. And then 624 00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,400 you like combine that with I think it's just instant 625 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,559 vanilla pudding mix, and then like your pumpkin spices and 626 00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:41,400 you just fold it all together, let it sit, and 627 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,720 then you have pumpkin fluff and it is delicious. 628 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: This sounds like a cheater version of pumpkin pie filling, 629 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,079 and I love that. Do you like dip pretzels into it? 630 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:50,880 Or what do you do with that? 631 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,359 Speaker 3: You can dip pretzels, you can do like gram crackers 632 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,319 are also really good. And then sometimes I would just, 633 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,880 you know, just dip out a fing and just eat 634 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,920 it with this food. Listen, because yeah, it's like you're 635 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,359 eating pumpkin filling and it's really good. 636 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,319 Speaker 1: Look, I'm not here to judge. I already said I'm 637 00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:10,160 from the Midwest. I am originally from Minnesota. So if 638 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,440 you're at all familiar with that lady who does the 639 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,359 Minnesota salads that aren't really salads, relatable, I grew up 640 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,559 with something that is in the same vein as pumpkin fluff, 641 00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:23,799 but not quite the same. We had pink salad and 642 00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:29,359 it was cool whip with cottage cheese and canned vander 643 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,720 and orange slices, and you would mix that all together 644 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,799 with some yellow powder. The red Kinds would make it 645 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:40,119 the pink salad. You could also do green for green salad, 646 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,119 and you can swap out the canned fruit if you like. 647 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,200 And we would have this and I don't care who's 648 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,680 watching this or listening to this, it's delicious. I know 649 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,799 it's not salad. It is a Minnesota salad, so shut up. 650 00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:54,000 It's good you got ahead of me. 651 00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: I was about to point it out that that's not 652 00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:55,839 a salad. 653 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: Listen, salad does not imply vegetable where I'm from. 654 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:03,079 Speaker 3: It's it's a mix. It's a mix of things. 655 00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: It's a millage of things. It's good. Try and tell 656 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,839 me you don't like it. Lindsay would not like it. 657 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:17,599 Who was on this last episode interview? But it's good. Well, 658 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,960 speaking of death by chocolate coming up with segues to 659 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,599 start wrapping up the show makes me want to die 660 00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:22,079 by chocolate. 661 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: So Elisa, it's been a pleasure chatting with you. 662 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,759 Speaker 1: But before we go, could you please tell the people 663 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,920 what you're promoting or celebrating right now? 664 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: Yes, So the biggest thing is the release of my podcast. 665 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,319 The Collection of Moira Graves is a anthology horror series 666 00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:43,519 that has a connected overarching plot and framing device. It's 667 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:47,160 a combo anthology series and kind of a serialized plot 668 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,160 kind of sprinkled over top of it. I believe episode 669 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,680 two just released. So you're done listening to this, go 670 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,680 to the Collection of Moyer Graves and whatever your favorite 671 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,480 podcast platform is and give a listen. 672 00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:04,039 Speaker 1: I will also say Lisa has been in a couple 673 00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:07,759 of episodes of Theme Party the podcast besides her own, 674 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,760 so they haven't come out yet as of the release 675 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,880 of this episode. But actually, no, that's not true. You 676 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,639 were one of the voices in the reach. 677 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: Yes, I was Octavia. 678 00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: Octavia the evil. 679 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,039 Speaker 3: Mayor quote unquote. 680 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: The lengthy tangent seems to love our evil mayors, So 681 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,880 that is a thing. Where can people find you? 682 00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:31,599 Speaker 3: So you can find me at Petrie vo on Blue. 683 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,559 Speaker 1: Sky Petrie spelled p e t r e y. 684 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:38,199 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, or Petrie voiceover on Instagram. 685 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: And we will put those links in our show notes. 686 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,039 Speaker 3: And then if you want to follow the Collection of 687 00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:44,760 Moyra Graves on social media, there is a Blue Sky 688 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,519 account for the Collection of Moyer Graves under Moira dash 689 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:49,800 Graves Excellence. 690 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: Well then that just leads me to thank Elsa Petrie 691 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,199 for coming to my Theme Party. Thank you also to 692 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,800 bad Machine for making our shows music, and to Alyssa 693 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,920 Esteban for our show art and for story development. Another 694 00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:03,719 huge thank you to Alisa and everyone involved in making 695 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,280 the collection of Moira Graves. If you want to learn 696 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,000 more about the episode in all of our shows, you 697 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,719 can visit our website Lengthy Tangent dot com. We've also 698 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,199 got a Patreon page for everything from Lengthy Tangent, so 699 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,119 pop on over there to see what we've got to offer. 700 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,559 Be sure to follow us on social media subscribes who 701 00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:19,719 don't miss an episode and rate interview if you've enjoyed 702 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,239 the show. Our next episode will be a first person 703 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,519 narrative on found Families entitled Firsts and Lasts by n Netta Elsayed. 704 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,960 Once again, our theme for this season has been family traditions. 705 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,360 I've been Mareta Mo's and this has been an interview 706 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,400 episode of theme Party, the podcast Thank you Again, Alisa, 707 00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:45,679 Celebrate Creativity. I was getting riled up over salads, so 708 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,360 we'll just edit that part out. Likely Tangent