Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 2: Come on, all right, there we go. Welcome in. It's Monday.
Speaker 3: I am running on a little sleep in a lot
of caffeine, so I'm ready to go. Second week of
the show. I was with Brian Power all weekend. Brian,
how's your weekend?
Speaker 4: It was very good. We watched three basketball games together
and in person in the building. All three went under.
True to form, I think there was my power was
on full display in that Bowling Green lamoying game. Where
else would we be out of afternoon while there's NFL
going on, and then Bowling Green taking on Lamoy There
were getting a lot of balls just you know, in
and out, a lot of in and out jumpers.
Speaker 2: It is the right you know. I know Rob has
followed this now.
Speaker 3: It doesn't get enough publicity the run that like when
Brian goes to a game, it just goes under.
Speaker 2: And it's been going for like years now.
Speaker 3: It's gotta be like it's gotta be like twenty something
out of the last like twenty five.
Speaker 2: It's something crazy, you know it is.
Speaker 4: So I have to so I felt bad because we're talking.
Of course I hadn't looked it up. I have to
go back. But when it comes to college basketball. I
legitimately think every single game I've gone to you, I've
gone with you, has stayed under. I can't think of
a single game that I've gone with you that has
not stayed under the total that.
Speaker 2: The only one that's gone over was the one Ralph.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the one I went. I went with Ralph,
went with Ralph and Jeff Bichaels to a Cleveland State
game and it looked like it was going to be
an easy under and then all of a sudden there
was a three point barrage late. So yeah, that was
It was a great weekend. Tregan. Uh, you are a
trooper for doing this show. I know nothing could keep
you from doing the show. But this man, ladies and gentlemen,
please pour one out for him. Give him a round
of applause. This man's been on the road for twenty
of I believe there was there was a thirty six
hour stretch where Adam Trigger was behind the wheel for
twenty of them. I think. So that's a yeoman's effort.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get Rob Vino in here. Rob, how
was your weekend?
Speaker 1: It was good, guys.
Speaker 5: Obviously we're at that point where my head is just
on a swivel. College football, NFL football, NBA, college basketball.
Speaker 1: It's nuts, guys.
Speaker 5: And again I've said it before, but credit to those
guys who take on hockey as well.
Speaker 1: Brian. I don't know if you do hockey, but dear Lord,
it's too much.
Speaker 5: It's too much the college basketball guys, which is what
we're here to talk about. First week of the show
was good. First week for me was good, seven and three,
first ten out of the box. Cash won last night
with a total play over. You know, these games they
run together and I forget what I even had the
game was over. Oh it was the Florida Atlantic Liberty game,
which there were some weird situations. I don't know that
we want to rehash and recap too too much, but
there were so many back to backs over the course
of this weekend. I mean, we laughed about chat having
to go to Maraga to play Saint Mary's, but then
they're on a plane the next day to UNLV, So
it was kind of a crazy weekend.
Speaker 1: You could appaalize on some of those back to backs.
It's been a good first week overall.
Speaker 4: And stay tuned because I think I guess that you
guys have this circle as well. There is a team
on today tonight's slate that my eyes just bulged out
of their head when I saw what the schedule makers
are asking them to do up And I guess kind
of both your guys Neck of the Woods, so to speak,
a lot closer than to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So for me personally week one, I think I
went like five and seven or something like that. And honestly,
I was telling Brian, I've I've kept it pretty small,
haven't played anything bigger than a three percent.
Speaker 2: I'm going to kind of sort of battle it.
Speaker 3: There's a couple spots I have circled this week that
I could potentially bumped up to four, but not really
worried about that, on the wrong side of some late
game variants, couple of like half point losses and stuff.
Speaker 2: So we'll live with it.
Speaker 3: But before we get into it, I'll go back to you, Brian,
after this, it's worth noting that the parlay for the
show has done very well. Yes, I was about to
bring season last week. Three parlay winners on the show
in five days. So if you're keeping track at home,
which we are, because we're going to keep track all
season that's plus fifteen point two two units, or if
you were to play them equally for every dollar you've played,
plus fifteen dollars and twenty two cents.
Speaker 2: So a great, great start to the Full Court Press show.
Speaker 3: And Brian, before we get into it, I'll go to
you if you want to add one more thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Rubber guys, those are obviously there's three of us.
So those are three leg parlays, and we hit three
in the first four days, and we almost hit four
in the first five days. But I apologize Robin Adam,
let you guys down. I was the only one to
lose the leg on Friday with Furman, So yeah, they
came back and it was close. I mean, we were
this close to a first week with you know, having
winning four to three team parlays in five days, which
had been quite a think. But hey, if we hit
three of these things every week, I think we'll be
sitting pretty come March.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were really if we can hit one a week,
but you know, we're we're gonna get into it a
little bit longer intro today, but uh, we're I think
I pulled in at one a m And battled a
snow store so UHU.
Speaker 2: We'll we'll we'll go out right up to eleven.
Speaker 3: And you know what, there's not as many games today,
so we'll get to as many as we possibly can.
Speaker 2: But we are going to start.
Speaker 3: Uh let's start with I guess what would be the
feature matchup of the night. Brian and I had a
discussion as to what the feature game was, but I ultimately,
I guess cooler heads prevailed. Brian and I decided to
go with Iowa State Mississippi State.
Speaker 2: It is your it is your ranked team against a
respectable team. I would say, I want to.
Speaker 4: I'm laughing and Rob's obviously laughing because we we both
know what what what how you could manipulate you manipulate
what qualifies the game of the day. Like Rob, he's
yelling in the car last like, you know, I don't
care what anyone says. You and see Wilmington Kent State's
the most interesting game on this late and I'm like,
we should probably do Iowa State Mississippi State first.
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna go, We're gonna go with the
co feature. We're gonna do both of those, but we're
gonna go. We'll start with Iowa State. So Rob, I'll
let you start this one off. For me, the number
five and a half, I felt like it was fair
and ultimately, like, I guess I'll start this one off
because I really don't have much to say other than
I like Iowa State's defense. I think Mississippi State has
some redeeming qualities, but I don't know that I would
want to go against Iowa State with this Mississippissippy State
team knowing like what I think they can do defensively,
and then at this number which has no value. So
that's kind of where I landed on this one. But
I'll go to you to start digging into this game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a little quick background here both of these teams.
First of all, let's just start with It's a neutral
floor right the Pentagon in South Dakota where they play
the Summit Tournament. So it's probably a little more fan
friendly to the Cyclones of Iowa State for sure than
it is to Mississippi State. Starkville to the Sanford Hennagon
doesn't sound like a fun road trip.
Speaker 1: It's one of the details a few travel miles.
Speaker 5: I want to start with Iowa State just because I
was a huge, huge fan of that team.
Speaker 1: Last year, and it's kind of.
Speaker 5: A shame the way injuries broke them down at the end,
and they still fought to the bitter end in the tournament,
wound up losing, but the backcourt of Lipsey and Gilbert,
just the injuries mounted and they couldn't overcome it. But
to bring back your own big three to your tea,
I mean, and most teams have to go to the
portal to form a big three.
Speaker 1: You bring back Lipsy, you bring.
Speaker 5: Back Mamsilovich, Joshua Jefferson. Those three guys all huge parts
last year. All three played different roles too. I mean,
Lipsey the lightning past point guard. I'm Silovich the three
point marksman. Jefferson your interior guy.
Speaker 1: For what it's worth.
Speaker 5: Tj Otzenberger, the head coach of Iowa State, said that
Jefferson spent a lot of time this year trying to
get bigger and stronger. Because if there's one concern I
have for Iowa State in this game, it would be
on the boards. I thought Mississippi State's probably a better
rebounding team. And when you play for Chris Jans, it's
probably if you have an hour practice, forty five minutes
has probably spent on rebounding in box outs. So for
Iowa State, huge amount of talent, huge amount of scoring
ability pace. If you look at the first two games
from both of these teams, no surprise, they're both gonna
go quick.
Speaker 1: It's amazing that. I think one of them is like
eighty third in the.
Speaker 5: Country shooting the ball every fifteen points something seconds. And
that's how fast college basketball has gotten. Two very very
quick teams want to get out into the open floor.
For Iowa State, they added a couple of a couple
of freshmen here. Jamario Bateman's the big news supposedly, but
Killie and Torre has put up more minutes so far.
So you got a pair of really really solid freshmen.
And at Utah Valley State guard I'll make Adam happy here.
Utah Valley State guard Dominic Nelson, top player for that
team last.
Speaker 1: Year, which was a really good team.
Speaker 5: They're so well balanced guys. Like I say, the only
concern I have with them is rebounding. I look at
the other side and I know Mississippi State should be
a year better. I know Mississippi State's gone through the
portal and gotten some.
Speaker 1: Help.
Speaker 5: And I also know that Mississippi State like Iowa State.
I think Iowa States even h I think i was State.
Seven of the top eight in the rotation are upper class.
For the Mississippi State side, six of the top eight
are upper class and five or seniors. So it's interesting
to find such veteran laden teams facing off against one another.
But I still I think we saw it in game one.
They're so heavily dependent on Josh Hubbard.
Speaker 1: Guys. You know, Adam talked about.
Speaker 5: Iowa State defense, and I think that defense is going
to have to come from the backcourt here. I don't
know that you can stop Josh Hubbard, but as Chris
Berman you used to say, you could try to contain them,
and maybe Iowa State has enough pieces to throw at
him to try and contain him.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 5: The one thing that's surprised me. I'm going to get
off of the side for a minute here and talk
about the total. I was a little surprised, guys. This
total came down open fifty three down to fifty and
a half. With the pace that the game's going to
be played at. Again, it's a neutral site, maybe there's
something there.
Speaker 1: I look for. Injury.
Speaker 5: There are no injuries so obviously the market, the early market,
believes that it's going to be a lower scoring game.
Speaker 1: Therefore, I have no play on this one.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna ask both of these sides to get
this seventy five, I don't know that that's unreasonable to me.
A seventy eight seventy three game is more than capable
in this one.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 5: But for me, if Mississippi State's gonna win, it's because
they crushed the boards. Otherwise, I think Iowa State is
ticketed for a really, really solid season.
Speaker 1: I'm probably a win here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, do you if you don't, do you have
any Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, no, I was gonna say so. I was. I was
very interested because I know Rob, you know, talks about
the team totals a lot, and I actually think Mississippi
State might struggle to sport. But my concern with the
Mississippi State side is year in year out, their struggles
to shoot the three, and I think that could come
back to bite them here. Remember this is a team
that was trailing North Alabama r late last time out.
You know that they were now nine as a matter
of fact, in the second half of that game. I
think that's going to ultimately be Mississippi State's undoing. Here
I'll tell you is in terms of the rob mentioned
the driver or the trip from Starkville to Sue Falls
not being a great I've made the drive from Sue
Falls to Aims. It's not drive. I would recommend that
he would make any one of the most boring drives
you can make in the United States of America. But
I'll say this Mississippi State team total under seventy two
and a half is how I would look to play this.
I just think missisippis a year and year out. You
look at the stats, this has not been a good
three point shooting team under Jams Trigg, So I think
that's their undoing. Without that three point shooting, I don't
know if they can get to this number in a
Marquee game, especially after you know it was not easy
with North Alabama last time. So that's why I would
go h for this feature matchup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I kind of just threw my thoughts
out early on. I would have given Iowa State obviously
a much bigger bump if they were playing at Hilton Coliseum.
Speaker 2: They are not.
Speaker 3: It's a neutral I felt like the number was right on,
and that's that's where I'm I'm kind of at I.
As much as I like to make cases for underdogs
Mississippi State, I just don't trust their you know, offensive
ability at this point against and I was eight team
that we know TJ's always got a good defense, and
I just feel like that would be the reason the
game gets out of hand. So let's let's do it.
Let's go co co main event today.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: I would say that you bring up the other good
point of the equation. Obviously, you know, we talk about
a team that can't shoot the three Walter playing a
team that's bad defensively. Maybe that doesn't matter in this
particular instance. They're facing a team that year in year
out is very good defense, always got Yeah. So Mississippi State,
I think is gonna struggle from the outside of this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, always good defensively.
Speaker 3: So I'll move it on and I'll talk about and
then kick it to you guys. The game I was
going to make the feature, and the reason I was
going to make it the feature, it's it's probably not
I don't think it's on a main network, But I
think you have a team that's got a really good
chance to contend in the MAC that's Brian Powers Conference,
the Mid American where we were in mac venues all weekend,
and then UNC Wilmington, who I think is is likely
probably should be the fit. Well, we had this discussion
in the car Brian maybe UNC Wilmington Towson are like
the two favorites in the Coastal but nonetheless a very
very good Wilmington team and a very interesting matchup to
me here for a couple of reasons.
Speaker 2: So Kent State.
Speaker 3: So first of all, if you were a box score watching,
you would have saw Kent State playing NBA calib like
one hundred points. I think they gave up one hundred
plus in both games. Scored one ten in one of
those games against Cornell. We'll see what if Rob has
anything on the total here, but something I heard Rob Senderoff,
Kent State longtime head coach, talking about being very very
upset with how the defense is played in the first
two games. Now it's worth pointing out that, like that's
the type of game you're going to get against Cornell,
and they won that game. So I think, you know,
maybe the defense maybe deserves a little bit of a
pass because that's just like Cornell is just gonna press
all game. It's going to be back and forth like that.
A one ten to one oh two final against a
team like Cornell is is not.
Speaker 2: Not that crazy.
Speaker 3: But I know the overtime loss to Troy, I believe
is how they open their season. He was pretty upset
with the defensive effort in that game. So a couple things,
and I'll let you guys weigh in on this. First thing, Brian,
you know, we went to Kent State a couple of
years ago and it was during this stretch where they
never lost at home ever. I mean, they had like
one of the longest home court I believed one of
the games we went to was part of this like
crazy home court winning streak that they had. And of
course they have DJ Smills up there on the on
the top doing the in house DJ.
Speaker 2: One of the best in the country.
Speaker 3: But what I think about Kent State, like the last
couple of years, as they've taken a step back really
since the team like with since here Carry and the
tournament team, you know, they've been a little bit more
vulnerable at home. And I have to wonder if like
that big win streak was just because they had really
good teams for a few years. I think Kent State
maybe gets bumped up a little.
Speaker 2: Too much for these for being at home.
Speaker 3: And then we went to two mac venues over the
weekend where the crowds weren't that great, and it's like,
I don't know if Kent State's going to be packed
here tonight. So when I see this go to two
and a half and I see them start to get
credit for home court, makes me want to play back
at this little I'm at Wilmington minus one right here.
The other thing I want to point out is Jamal
Sumlan for Kent State is out for the year. He
got hurt in p Act. He's done for the year.
He was one of their big sort of returning players.
So you know what I'll be looking at is a
couple of things.
Speaker 4: C J.
Speaker 3: Luster did not play in the opener for Wilmington. He's
the guy that transferred for transferred from Stony Brook to Wilmington.
So what you have going on here right now is
a Wilmington team that's basically a Coastal Coastal Association All
Star team. They pretty much picked off like the best
player from everyone else's roster CJ. Luster from Stony Brook,
Jonathan Lamont comes over from NCA and Team Madison Durr
from mom myth They got all these guys that were
really good on other teams in this league. Two of
them did not play in the opener, and that's something
I'll be tracking throughout the day. If Wilmington's got their
full team here, I think they should be favored and
they're probably going to be an underdog. So this is
a side. The Wilmington side is what I would look
at in this one. Sorry, a little bit long winded,
but you know, wanted to get that out there because
they have a.
Speaker 2: Pretty strong lean toward Wilmington. We'll go to BP.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's a make well obviously the one
data point we have. I don't know how much you
can take away from that, so I'm staying away from
the side. Kent. You mentioned the the highest scoring affairs
they've had to start the year, Trig two of them.
Just to uh put numbers, uh, you know, out for everybody.
They lose to Troy one oh three ninety seven. Yes
that was an overtime game, was eighty seven eighty seven
at the end of regulation. So It's not like a
situation where the game only went over because of overtime.
It had already gone way over the total. As a
matter of fact, for that game closed one forty two
and a half. The Cornell game, obviously a wild one
one o two was the final score that had a
total of one sixty five and a half. So they
have flown over the total in their first two games.
And you know me, Trig I all, I generally want
to punch back on something like that. This is something
I you know, part of me wishes we were going
to this game. We would make it three Mac games
in three days. If we were going to this game,
for sure, I would test my powers and try to
bet the in person under on this one. I do
kind of have a sligh I'm interested. You know, when
Rob and I have aligned, it's always been very good
on these totals. I feel little. I feel good when
he aligns with me. I think this one we could
see some regression and part Kent State was another team,
you know I talked about Misissippi State earlier. Kent State
was not a good three point shooting team last year,
and so are we going to continue to see this
kind of these kind of scores, probably not in Wilmington. Again,
like Iowa State we talked about on that previous matchup,
they were good defensively last year. So I think that
looking at this game, if I had to make a play, yes,
I would try to take a stab.
Speaker 2: With the under Rob.
Speaker 3: I got a question for you, because I feel like
this is how you look at games. Okay, you have
a team where their coach Rob Sanderoff just ripped him
for defense. But they played two games where the both
of these teams in Troy and especially Cornell were willing
to like press and go the length of the court,
and that was the style of play that they certainly wanted.
Wilmington's a little bit different in that regard. Wilmington's not
going to take as many threes. They're going to work
their office a little bit more, try to get to
the rim. Is is this the setup that you like?
Try to get in with a total because there's something
that's so drastically different from maybe what the first two
games look like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and mostly, Adam, you're waiting for the coach to
speak up. Generally, coaches don't rip their team on a
nightly basis when it happens. It happens for a reason.
He's trying to make a point. This happens in the
NBA as well. I know when I go through the
show with Ski all the time doing the NBA, when
we see a coach quote like that. Even in the
w NBA when Becky Hammond would rip the Las Vegas defense,
there were.
Speaker 1: Times, you know, here's here's the issue you run into.
Speaker 5: Do you take the coach's word for and as you've
worked them extra hard, and does the team listen to
his words? Or is the team just not good defensively
and it doesn't happen that that's what you run into.
Generally you find that out in the next game. But
I think your better point to this one, Adam, would
be the tempo change by the opponent. Now, for me,
I like to think that the home team can control
tempo for the majority of the game, not to full
forty in college basketball, but let's just say twenty eight
out of forty minutes go to the tempo that Kent
lights and twelve go to Wilmington.
Speaker 1: If Wilmington was at.
Speaker 5: Home, it would be reversed, but still those twelve minutes
can make a big difference. Now, the total heroes come
down a couple of points. What I find now in
basketball all the time, and now even in football, is
everybody out there in the early market is an injury chaser.
So these lines they go up or down a lot
of times, not according to how people think the game
is going to be played, but to injury. And Adam,
you talked about two for Wilmington that we're going to
have to track here. In the first two Kent games, Brian,
you talked about threes, and this just goes to tempo
thirty of sixty nine from three thirty five threes a
game put up by Kent. I think Morgan's Stafford had
a seven for nine in one of those games shooting it.
So Kent's obviously established an offensive pattern. These opponents, you know,
the opponent NC Greensboro or Wilmington played excuse me, mount Olive.
Speaker 1: We can't scrape much from that.
Speaker 5: I think in the long run, here I would say
that the number has come down off the total, not
for your reason, Adam, but.
Speaker 2: For before an injury reason.
Speaker 1: And possibly.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you get those guys, maybe you look
towards over to me, this game's in the solid place
to begin with So that's why I have a lot
of trouble dissecting it and making a firm commitment on
which way I would play it. But I would say
that Kent is probably going to control tempo for the
majority of the game. Wilmington has added enough size to
that team through the ortal through additions to where maybe
you know, if you grab a board defensive board, you
can slow the game down right there. So if Wilmington's
good on the boards, which they might be here defense
and boards especially, then you could look at under it
totals in a tough place. But I think we covered
a lot of philosophical ground there to let people know
how you should look at these games from a you know,
every game styles make matchup right, and therefore these totals
that are simply made on mathematical basises and then bed
into because of injury situations not always correct.
Speaker 1: I could see it going either way.
Speaker 5: It's a long winded way of just trying to point
out how I look at totals and not really giving
you a selection on the game. I apologize, guys, but
Garth decided to donate the for the philosophical advice anyway.
Speaker 3: Yes, so yeah, no, that was Honestly, I felt like
a good discussion on both of those games. And the
nice part about this show is we've got twenty minutes
to talk two of the bigger games that you're you know,
on the slate, and then forty to actually find picks
in the games that are probably more worth betting. So
that's what we're going to do for the next forty
minutes of this show. Garth actually donated to hear about
Western Kentucky on the money line, and so I'll start
this game off and then and then you guys could
add something in I disagree. Well, I guess Garth. You know,
he says he's a hilltop or alum. So shout out
to Garth, Garth, I may it's there's an outside chance
I'm out a Western Kentucky game this year at some
point if it works into my schedule, so maybe we
can meet up. We had a great time meeting Ethan Bainbridge,
who came out and went to the Bowling Green game
with us. So shout out Ethan for making the drive
down to uh I think he came down from Grand
Rapids all the way to Bowling Green.
Speaker 2: We had a great time. So it was we love
to meet you guys.
Speaker 3: That's also why we're you know, I've met probably got
like twenty people at this point that watched the shows
during my travel. Is always a great time. So yeah,
well we'll let you know if we're gonna be in town.
But as far as this name is concerned, So first,
first sort of notable thing, this is.
Speaker 2: At Eastern Kentucky.
Speaker 3: I don't think Eastern Kentucky gets many, like big home
games outside of conference play, so it might be a
little bit of a big deal for them getting a.
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky at home.
Speaker 3: I you know, these these are not two leagues that
I'm I feel like I'm overly confident in just my
general read of like the league and a lot of
these teams like not not like you know how I
sort of am in the Northeastern conferences. But uh my
number makes Western Kentucky a slight favorite here, So I'll
have to go back and dig a little bit in
terms of, like, you know, how much should I be
giving home court to Eastern Kentucky. Admittedly I don't know
much about their building or what kind of home court
edge they have or any but just from a where
I have these two teams rated the fact that I
think Western Kentucky probably has an advantage.
Speaker 2: On the interior here, Garth, I would I would not
be laying.
Speaker 3: I think it's three now, so I don't know if
let me go to the odd screen here real quick?
Speaker 1: One and a half?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's so so we had what okay, so
here's a little right here, Garth.
Speaker 2: This was probably a little bit of a headfach.
Speaker 3: This was Eastern Kentucky two and a half like two
seconds ago. And what I think probably happened was someone
bet this up to get that key number of two
and a half on Western Kentucky. And my guess is,
if my numbers are accurate here, Western Kentucky will probably
go off a very slight favorite. So I think if
you want the Western Kentucky money line, you grab it now.
And I think from a matchup standpoint, it is a
fine bet. Someone if hey, if you're in Richmond, Kentucky,
let me know if Eastern Kentucky home games get lit
in the middle of November. That's all I would want
to know, because I don't know what to work for
home court there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna see just like you, who would
have known that what a volatile crowd at Bowling Green
can be you know, not a you mentioned it wasn't
a large crowd yesterday that was on an Trigg, But
there are definitely a couple people in that Bowling Green crowd.
I'll tell you what, all you officials, if you're going
to Bowling Green and you're not doing a good job
with the whistle, there's a couple of people that are
gonna let you know about it, and they'll let you
know about it for all forty minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Bowling Green was up I think fifteen
at one point, and that that guy did not let up.
Speaker 2: He did not let up all the whole time.
Speaker 4: Should we bring up that New Haven game?
Speaker 1: Hop in? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let Rob hop In on that game because I
want to get Garth the full breakdown here.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Ron.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be pretty brief, pretty simple here and not
go much in depth. But I would say this, Eastern
Kentucky's gonna have to beat Western Kentucky at their own game,
and I don't think they can. Western Kentucky is an
extreme tempo team. Were last year continue that this year
Eastern Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I just talked a little bit.
Speaker 5: About how I trust the home side to control tempo
in most in most games, maybe by a twenty eight
to twelve ratio, maybe you know, twenty five to fifteen,
however you want to use it. But here I don't
see that instance when you you're an extreme tempo team.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to correlate it.
Speaker 5: I mean because I go back too far when I say,
look at what Loyola Merrymount did in ninety, but how
about now Nato to Alabama.
Speaker 1: I'll use that correlation here. When a team's goal.
Speaker 5: Is just to take the ball and run as fast
as they can, and they're going to wear you down,
then it's very hard to control the tech.
Speaker 1: We see.
Speaker 5: We very rarely see anybody control Alabama or they contain
them from scoring, from running, et cetera, et cetera. I
think that's the bout Eastern Kentucky's in here tonight. Second
point I'll make is Western.
Speaker 1: Kentucky's far better tested here.
Speaker 5: They played Tennessee Tech, and Tennessee Tech is a far
better team. Early on, Tennessee Tech played Charlotte very close
in Charlotte's a two win oh team already, So you
have what a Western Kentucky team that scored eighty two
on Tennessee Tech wins by twelve. You got an Eastern
Kentucky team that's untested, that's probably going to be forced
into a game that it doesn't that it does mind playing,
I would say, but probably doesn't want to play. And
there's got to be some type of in state rivalry
here Eastern Kentucky Western Kentucky. I don't know if it's
got a nickname or if there's a serious hatred between
the two, but you know you're gonna get a full
focus out of both sides. And Western Kentucky's so veteran
lated that to me, I would have to play. This
price just seems a little low here. I would normally
I'd be jumping on totals in and this is like this.
But I think at this price tag, I would not
mind asking Western Kentucky to win by a bucket in
this game.
Speaker 3: All right, I gotta put this Keith Bayovet's landry coming
out hot on a Monday morning, with this right here.
Speaker 4: Senior tax by you, I'll get back to you.
Speaker 3: Eastern Kentucky had a change to had a chance to
go D one to the Conference USA, but because Western
Kentucky decided not to leave to join the MAC. They
blocked Eku from joining the conference. He says bad blood here,
So there's to speaking to potential rivalry.
Speaker 2: All I know is as.
Speaker 3: We talked about this game, when when when Garth brought
this game up, Eastern Kentucky was minus two and a
half bet up. So just to just to recap how
this game played out in the in the betting over
the last forty five minutes, this opened Eastern Kentucky minus
one and a half. It got bet up many almost
everywhere to Eastern Kentucky minus two and a half, and
within since we started talking about this game, which could
be no more than what five or six minutes, it's
now flipped to minus one and a half Western Kentucky
most places. So to me, that says like sort of
clear headbake set up the side that the respected people
wanted or that we're manipulating. This market was likely Western
Kentucky and they probably are now sitting there with Western
Kentucky plus two and Western Kentucky plus two and a half,
and this looks like it is back to minus one
minus one and a half most places. That's where I
had the number Western Kentucky minus one. I doubt it'll
make my card, but certainly would be on the Western
Kentucky side if I had to pick.
Speaker 4: Fan duel straggling behind everyone. By the way, if you
want to if you were after these breakdowns, if you
still want to bet Western Kentucky, you could still get
them plus one and a half. There everyone else has
moved favorite.
Speaker 3: Hello FanDuel, Hello, yeah, and hey, and you know what,
like these are the types of games where like probably
don't need to overreact because that could get bet back
throughout the day. I mean again, like some you know,
it's a it's an interesting game. But like I did
see Eastern Kentucky when it was minus two and a
half and I looked and I said, hmm, there's definitely
some value there on my number. And that is completely gone.
Western Kentucky is now the favorite almost across the board.
And and and the interesting thing about us doing this
show in this hour, the ten am to eleven am hour, is.
Speaker 4: When a lot of line moves. Yeah, a lot of these.
Speaker 3: Games get manipulated that the odds of the limits go
up or they appear at some books during this hour,
and so the moves during this show are probably going
to be like somewhat indicative of like where the respective
money is going. So I and I think it's going
toward Western Kentucky. So Garth as a hilltop or alum,
go for it. I don't mind that. I may even
we're gonna need a parlay at some point. That's a
that's nearing the top of my list for a parlay lade.
So but I want to go to Ethan. So Ethan again.
We we had a great time hanging out with Ethan
yesterday and we actually started to talk about this game
as we were sitting at the game watching bowling Green
and Leamoyne. Of course, the I was just talking both
of their ears off about Northeast Conference basketball. I don't
think either cared, but I had a lot to say
about Lemoyne, and I have a lot to say about
new Haven, and so let's let's start with this. I
want to I want to talk about this game and
then we'll we'll go this game to the Columbia Yukon
game because I have I feel like there's some connecting points.
All these teams have pretty much like played each other
at this point, so we'll do a little too for
one right here. The first game we got to look
at is new Haven Lowell. So, Brian Power, tell me
what you wanted to tell me about the scheduling spot
for the new Haven Chargers.
Speaker 4: So let's get this up. New Haven. This will be
their fourth game of the season in what seven days
now it's been, and third in four days. They have
played Columbia, Penn State, and now you mass Lowell. So
three the A, three games and four nights. No, Rob,
you have not teleported to the NBA show. We are
talking about a college basketball team playing its fourth it's
fourth and eight days. I guess technical we with third
and four on the road. No less, And a question
I would like to throw to you two guys, is
you know, for those who missed, you masked Lowell's last year.
That's that's the New Haven side. Okay, dreadful scheduling spot
that you don't see often. You masked Lowell for those
who missed it. Last time out got absolutely hammered by
Uk Drake about how we're going to interweave view con
in a discussion one ten to forty seven. I believe
I know it was a Friday night, but I was
checking social media dutifully. I believe at one point the
score of that game was thirty seven to two. It
was all It was real bad. And my question, you guys,
is in this model? Is this something you know? It
just came to me as I knew we were going
to talk about this game. If you're on UMass Lowell
and people were making funny on social media a few
days ago, oh my god, look up. Does that provide
any extra incentive to go for the kill here when
you know you're facing a team that when you're in
your own gym and you're facing a team with tire legs?
Is that something that would all factor into your handicap
either of you? Because I don't know. To me, this
is UMass Lowell or nothing.
Speaker 2: I'll let Rob take that question and then I'll talk
about Lowell a little bit.
Speaker 5: To getting killed on social media stuff. I guess it
depends if the coach takes their phones away. Now are
they even aware of Some coaches are so stern and
strict that they don't want the kids paying attention to
the outside noise. Some are allowing allowing, guys, and you
know they'll be able to see what's going on. I
would think more you know the point you made Brian
about three and four.
Speaker 1: Days is just crazy. In college we talk about a
lot of back to backs here over the weekend. This continues.
Speaker 5: This is new Haven trying to establish themselves as a
first year program. I would say, you know, in college football,
these are called paydays. Go get your ass beat and
take home a check. I don't know that you u
mass Lowell is coming with a check. Go ahead and
destroy new Haven.
Speaker 1: But they do they ad them.
Speaker 3: Let me know quick, no, no, no, they are going
to They will tell you what they will come with.
They will have that, They will have some fans that'll
probably hackle similar to our friends at Bowling Green. That
is a I've been to Lowell. That is a small gym.
You're right on top of the floor, and uh, they
they get a lot. When I went, they had a
they had a lot of locals in there just looking
to have a good time a little bit.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: When do we making the road trip to Lowell?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's great.
Speaker 3: I went with Chris Thurstay for an America East semi
final playoff game. They were playing Bryant and they let
the Bryant band like set up in like the upper area,
like they have like a little balcony and like they
were just heckling the Bryant band the whole time.
Speaker 2: It was it was good. I mean, you were right,
very very small little gym, you're right on top of
the floor.
Speaker 3: And I'll tie that into what I want to say
about Lowell this so I think, uh, conventional wisdom or
you know, I guess the three of us would be
sitting here saying, man, third game in four days for
New Haven, like that's it, that that's gonna be tough. Well,
I want to just look at this a little bit differently. Okay, One,
New Haven got absolutely destroyed in those of those games
by Columbia and by Penn State. So they were just
playing whoever in the second half of those games. The
minutes are being spread around. It wasn't like a super
intense game where they had injuries and like they just
got crushing both those games had yesterday off. The bigger
point here, though, is this Lowell team is not what
they have been the past couple of years. So UMass
Lowell has been a contender, in my opinion, in the
America East the last couple of seasons. I think this
UMass level team probably finishes bottom half of the America East.
I'm not very high on them overall in that conference
this year. So in my opinion, the spot is more
than baked into this number. Now my number personally, i've
got UMass Lowell minus ten. Am I getting enough value
at eleven and a half to want to take a
stab with the New Haven Chargers, a former alma mater
of our co host Rob Vino right here?
Speaker 2: Probably not? But I have no interest in laying ten
and a half with Lowell. I do not think this
team is very good year.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I mean it does you know, obviously a
team that got I mean, look, they weren't gonna do
anything against Yukon, right, but you know it does speak fun.
Do you really want to lay you know, double digits
with a team that's clearly not very good? Probably not.
I think you've kind of talked me off doing that
trig And you know, Rob, obviously you would know better
if you want to wrap it up the discussion. Knew
if this is a team you mentioned obviously making the
jump up that they were not. They were not exactly
good at the Division two level, and they lost four
of their top five scores. As well from last year.
So this is this is not a team that was
exactly you know, this may not have been the best
year for them to make the jump up the Division one.
Speaker 5: And guys, real quick, because the geographic location, it's bound
to be a little bit of I mean, it's obviously
not a formed rivalry in college basketball, but I'm sure
the location in West Haven of Connecticut and the proximity
to Lowell, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Makes it a little bit of a.
Speaker 5: You know, a little bit of a the start of
maybe a rivalry here, and Lowell's going to want to
put the foot down.
Speaker 1: I'm a little brother immediately.
Speaker 5: So if I were to look at it, I would
I would look at it only from the Lowell side,
whether they're you know, they're reduced amount of starters guys.
Speaker 1: Bridan just talked about it down four starters or whatnot.
Speaker 5: Probably the talent level still is better than what it
is at UNH at this point in time. So Adam
said he made it ten numbers eleven and a half
at I don't know if I had to play the
favorite here, thinking that UNH just with a limited roster
and in the scheduling situation that they're in, probably too.
Speaker 1: Much to overcome.
Speaker 2: And if they're all vickered up hiding in there, Adam,
the chat needs to know.
Speaker 3: The chat now has has they think you might be
a pizza guy because you're in that neck of the woods.
So Jake Hepler says, be Veno knows good pizza. And
then we have another person asking, like, what's what's the
pizza spot out there?
Speaker 2: Do you have a New Haven?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Which New Haven spot would be your spot?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably the state wide spot. It's called Peppies
in New Haven. There's generally a line, you know, quarter
mile long wait to get pizza from that place. I
think I think Peppi's actually has two locations. Now I
was told my recent visit for a family get together
in Connecticut, but that's the place you want to go
New Haven Peppies Pizza, that's the spot.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know I've got to get I still have
to do, like Yale, I still have to get out
to obviously New Haven now that they're d two and
I will. I've absolutely got like a list of pizza
places I want to hit, Like when I get out
to to one of those games, I'll keep it with
you and and and we'll go back and because I
want to, so I want to kind of make a
point here into like we're about to have like a
sort of common opponent thread with with another game. So
Colombia is going to hit the road to play Yukon,
who just smashed new Haven and Lowell. And of course
on the show on Friday, if you watched the live
of the show, you you should have had a nice
winner on Columbia over new Haven. That was a three
percent play for me that I gave out on the show.
Now Columbia heads to stores to play the Yukon Huskies.
So this is interesting to me, and you know see,
so the way I look at it is this like
Yukon has had two pretty much no contest games at
this point, U Mass Lowell and new Haven. Now, I
already said on Friday when I think about Columbia, they
were far superior team to new Haven. I just talked
about low a little bit. I think Columbia might be
superior to you Mass Lowell as well.
Speaker 2: My number here was where.
Speaker 3: This opened in the thirty to thirty and a half range.
I'm seeing this bit up to thirty four some places now,
so I see clear value on the Columbia Lions.
Speaker 2: Do I want to do it. I don't really love
take I don't love these.
Speaker 3: Thirty point favorites, but this is a scenario where I
would not lay it with the favorite. I think Columbia's
got enough juice potentially to stay within the number.
Speaker 2: And I'll go to you to sort of either talk
me into or off of that.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I could do either, but I
could go to the same game and tell you I
follow your train of thought and it leads me to total.
And I think the people that got there really got
the best of this number.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: They betted up from fifty two and a half to
fifty five and a half.
Speaker 5: The fact that Connecticut has played opponents that we consider
lesser than Columbia, I'm with you on that grounds. And
the fact that Danny Hurley is just an angry, angry
head coach after what happened last year, you know, turned
down the Lakers come back to Yukon, We're going to
win another title.
Speaker 1: We don't do it this year. That is the only
goal for the Yukon Huskies.
Speaker 5: And you can see the way they poured it on
last game, right, I mean, they're probably destined for ninety
five or so in this game, which if you're Columbia,
you're asking Columbia to get you to the sixty one
point mark at the current number. I don't know that
that's unreasonable, guys. That kind of puts you on side
in total, right on the numbers. So I just rattled
those off the top of my head. But interestingly that
does put you exactly on the numbers side and total.
But I would play over here, guys, and I probably
would have played it earlier. Now we're asking for one
fifty six. I still think it's doable.
Speaker 1: Connecticut's just so so wound up, so fired up for
the season.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: The one thing I did look at, Adam is real
quick here they played BYU on deck, but that game's
five days away. If it were a little closer, I
would think that maybe Hurley pulls back the reins. We're
gonna just take it easy, get ready for BYU. But
with the game being over the weekend, I think it's
it's either Friday or Saturday. Guys, I forget which it is,
but they probably Saturday game. That look ahead doesn't mean
as much to me in this spot, so for me,
it would probably be over or nothing. But I think
the play on over would be reduced at this point
because the better number was already taken.
Speaker 4: Is Yukon team total an option ron? Like what it's
a high night? It's ninety four and a half. Like
I'm just saying, I mean, if you're talking about side
in total being correlated, Yukon right to get this game over,
Yukon's got to get over there, Numbeam don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, it's probably in play bright And the reason
why he stays in play is because when he lets
the bench loose, they're still that good on Connecticut. You know,
some of these teams they let the bench loose and
it's just you're watching kids throw up.
Speaker 1: Bricks and you don't get there. But with Yukon, it's
a different story.
Speaker 5: Now Danny Hurley does we've seen him, and he did
it to his own kid, right, not allow him to
take a shot when they had ninety eight and they're
going to get one hundred and the crowds cheering for
one hundred, and Hurly toes his kid, don't you dare
shoot the ball? And then here from his wife after
the game, why didn't you let our kids shoot the ball?
So maybe those late thirty seconds in his mind have changed,
but you know they're they're that good.
Speaker 3: Speaking of that good, Lucasto says, Sally's that was the one.
I figured it was going to be Frank Pepe or
Sally's that you were gonna say. Is that like the
like the consensus one you? I feel like ever since
Port and I put Sally's sort of on, I feel
like those are like the two. I'll be trying both
when I get out there, which I'll be on a
diet until then.
Speaker 2: After what Brian and I ate this weekend, I'll.
Speaker 1: Tell you what.
Speaker 4: Anyone want a taco recommendation, go to Crunchies in East Lands.
Like Adam, Trigger was absolutely horrified when I motioned to
the server, Hey, I'll take a second order. I'll smash
five tacos at eleven o'clock at night.
Speaker 2: Why not? There's a second full entree order at eleven pm.
Speaker 3: But I knew you weren't going to finish all three,
and I wanted to try him to, which is why
I let you do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was aggressive aggressive order right there.
Speaker 4: Well, bet regret. On Sunday morning, Rob I was like,
why why did I order that second plate at Tacos
at eleven o'clock at night.
Speaker 1: Key I cake from all that. As Adams said, he
let you do.
Speaker 2: It, yeah, because he was like I could tell he
wasn't going to finish all.
Speaker 3: Three, and I was like, I kind of want to try.
I was like, I was full too, but I was like, I,
I they do look good. I kind of want to
try one of sure Enough, he got through like one
and a half. He's like, I'm gonna throw up. I
was a gallied that last week. Oops, all right, we
have a fifteen minutes left on the show. No one
has put in a parlay leg yet, just a typical
Monday morning. But I still I'm between like three different games.
So Brian, did you I'm going to defer to you
for two things. One do you know a game you
want to lock it in? Two?
Speaker 2: Do you have something to promote? Did you end up
getting to the window of the football play for tonight?
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do that. We should talk about. By the way, guys,
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a very rare five percent play on the Monday night
football game. This is just my second five percent play
of the NFL season. Guys. The first came all the
way back in Week two. I took the Atlanta Falcon.
It was a three and a half point underdog. They
destroyed the Mini, they destroyed the Minnesota game. Yes, absolutely
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VP is where to go to get that. For my
partly that I'm still deciding between the top two games
we talked about. You know what, sometimes you just have
a feel you're you're in a groove, if you will
we come off the weekend trig. We went to three games,
they all go under. Two of them were max schools.
You got that Kent State team where their first two
games were ridiculously high scoring. I wanted I was thinking
long and hard about the Mississippi State team total under.
But I think let's keep let's stay in our groove.
Let's stay in our lane another mac under let's go
under UNC Wilmington Kent State. That will be my leg
of the parlay.
Speaker 2: Is that a full game? What do we have for
a number right there?
Speaker 4: I believe it was one sixty four and a half
last look, but of course could have We are doing
the show live and it could have moved. So I
think that's always a good idea to give the people
the number, well one one sixty and a half part
of the one sixty and a half I miss ai.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to you know, kind of drive that
point home.
Speaker 3: So the move CJ Luster if he doesn't play, I mean,
he is a big time scorer and that would certainly
help the underbutt. I'm just gonna go back to a
point Rob made earlier in terms of, like, you know
that the center off was mad at the defensive effort
against Troy, even though they gave up one hundred plus,
Like that's the type of game you're gonna play against Cornell.
So I don't think Kent State's defense was necessarily poor.
They won the game one ten, one oh two. That's
just the type of game you're gonna get against Cornell
like that, you're gonna Cornell's gonna play games where both
teams score one hundred, so I think you may get
the better like the better defensive effort might actually show
up here for Kent State like more because it's the
style of the game it's gonna be, and hopefully that
will keep the game under for VP, who has been
a machine with mac unders.
Speaker 2: So thank you for that one, Brian. But we'll get
Robin here. Do you know what you want to use
for the parlight? By chance?
Speaker 5: You know I'm gonna close in on it right now
for you guys, Let's go to what could be considered
a high profile game here, Santa Clara Xavier. We know
Richard Patino, new head coach at Xavier, far different style
than what Sean Miller had. I'm gonna play this Xavier
team total, guys up in over seventy.
Speaker 1: Nine and a half.
Speaker 5: Santa Clara herbs Sendek is a funny coach all his
days at NC State. Slow methodical, slow, methodical, slow methodical.
Get the Santa Clara speedy, speedy, speedy. And then in
the first game this year, tempo little tempo changed by
Santa Clara.
Speaker 1: But I think that had to do.
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes these numbers get a little bit over
or underinflated because you're playing non board teams. Right, Your
speed numbers are faster because as you ran some cakewalk
team off the floor.
Speaker 1: It's slower because you didn't pay too much attention.
Speaker 5: But Santa Clara, I think their roots are to play
a fairly quick tempo. And for Xavier here coming into
Xavier's gym, Brian, you probably speak on this far better
than me, But Xavier's gym is no fun, especially for
a West Coast team to come into that environment, and
I just don't know that they'll handle the pressure of
Xavier immediately. It may only take a strong scoring first
half to get this one up and over. But I
see the number, guys, as far as team total is concerned,
for Xavier, at seventy nine, am I on that? I
think seventy Yeah. In fact, seventy nine and a half
the consensus number here gives us a flat one ten.
There are places out there charging you fifteen or twenty cents. Again,
go find the best number you can. But that's going
to be my leg of the parlay tonight.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 5: Team totals have been pretty successful for me early on
Xavier team totally against Santa Clara over seventy nine and
a half.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought this game up ro because this
was one of the ones I hope to talk about
on the show. I actually debated making it a triple
header feature. So we'll give this, you know, because this
is a Fox Sports one game, National TV game, so
we'll give this the the sort of full treatment. For me,
I was interested in the Santa Clara side. Now there's
a couple of things going on here and something you
made a point of. It's like these lines move, but
like it doesn't always. It moves correlated to like the
personnel on the floor and like an injury, not so
much the total. I think that's why you're seeing Xavier
take money tonight Santa Clara, maybe without a player or two.
Speaker 2: And I gotta be honest, this is one of those.
Speaker 3: Scenarios where I may like I got I got the
day to think about it, but I kind of want
to take a shot with Santa Clara even if they're
missing a guy or two, because I just I still
think that they may be a better team than this
Xavier team, even if they're missing like one of their starters.
I sent you a tweet from Richard Patino, both of
you over the weekend. Yeah, he was having a little
fun after the Lamoyne game where he rated he was
like cheerleaders a plus, the spirit squad a like complimented
everyone said, you know, said the offense look good. He
gave the defense an F minus. Right, so he gave
he gave his and it was like playful. Of course
they barely beat Lemoyne. That's actually a probably. I think
there were a twenty We talked about Lemoyne on the
show taking the points out.
Speaker 2: That was like a five point game. They were like
a twenty four point favorite.
Speaker 3: And when I saw that tweet, I said, Okay, he know,
like Xavier, this is like a like a total team
building year for Xavier. I don't think he expects like
to win many games. I think, you know, obviously they're
gonna win some games. But I think Richard Patino is realistic.
I think he knows that that team is not going
to factor into the Big East this year. Too young,
not enough talent. And then so for me, I think
I saw this when I was down in the Bahamas, Georgia,
when Mike White took over Georgia.
Speaker 2: It was very similar. They stayed out to like four am.
They were down there having fun.
Speaker 3: And I really truly believe that that year it was
more like, hey, like, let's build some like a fun atmosphere.
Let's get these guys to like each other, have each
other's backs. And then the next year Georgia was very good,
much better than the market anticipated. I think you might
get something like that with Xavier this year. So Xavier
is a fade for me.
Speaker 2: And I'm debating even taking the points with Santa Clara here,
even if they're shorthanded, So go go ahead, VP.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, obviously, Patino. You know he's used
to having good defensive teams. You know, New Mexico is
what the top fifteen in the country. I believe the
defensive efficiency last year points per possessional out. One thing
I will caution trigger was funny. You know, when I
was sweating out that under last at the Bowling Green
Lamoine game yesterday, I was bemoaning. I was like, why
is this the first college basketball game I've seen in
two years where these kids can't miss a free throw?
They were shooting. The teams were like a combined ninety
five percent Santa Clair has been bad from the look,
correct me if I'm wrong. Santa Clair's been bad from
the law. Now it's a small This is something that
I think, you know, no matter what game you're looking at, guys,
you need to take them a coup. Is this just
a small sample size or is it something is a
sign of things to come. Two games do not make
an entire season, But Santa Clair has been poor from
the charity stripe, So that is something you're gonna want
to note, particularly you know, in a game where it's
lying close like this, does that come back to bite
them if you're betting spread, if you're betting a Broncos.
Speaker 2: On to Rob. Just to make a point for Rob
and to to sort of support his over.
Speaker 3: Richard Patino is much much happier with the offense than
he was with the DS first game.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't the offense that he felt was the issue.
Speaker 3: It was the lack of It was basically just like
you know, Letting Lamoyne of all teams do whatever they wanted.
Speaker 2: Offensively.
Speaker 3: And I think Santa Clara is I mean, if we're
talking about even if you're down a player to Santa
Clara is a far more talented team than Lamoye. Santa
Clara will be a a respectable team in a WCC
conference that sort of continues to climb the ranks of
like you know, they're probably if you were to rank
out conferences, the one that's like right outside the power
conferences at this point is probably the WCC when you
consider the fact that you've got Gonzaga, Saint Mary's, Grand
Canyon inherited, a couple of Pack twelve teams without a
home Washington State, Oregon State, like you know, so to me,
like Santa Clair is a much better team.
Speaker 2: Obviously that's reflected in the number.
Speaker 3: But I don't really agree with that Xavier move, so
I'm not gonna put that in the parlay. Obviously, I
don't want us to be on the same game, but
I do sort of lean Santa Clara at four and
a half. I think that's a decent bet. Let's go
see if we can get one more question in here quick.
I know what I'm gonna use at this point, but
I'll it's a game we've already talked about. Well, I'll
throw it in there when I recap, but I don't
need to take more time on that let's let's get
one more game in here. I'm just kind of browsing
seeing which ones we missed. Anyone have any Arkansas Little
Rock takes. That's a game A couple of people asked about.
I gotta like go and find that one.
Speaker 1: On a rock.
Speaker 3: I don't think I believe that Arkansas Little Rock is
playing Wisconsin Milwaukee or now Milwaukee.
Speaker 4: Just for me, they're getting rid of the whisky. It's
just like it, just like it's Green Bay now, yes,
and they're Little Rock now yeah, yeah, yeah, Little Rock.
We're just hey, yes, we're taking things away. Forget the stake,
just talk about the city. I think there's an injury
concerned for Little Rock. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Someone I have I have to go dig into.
Speaker 4: I mean, this line's moved. I can see why people
are asking about this line's moving, and I believe that
is injury related. Why there's money coming on Milliewaukee, which
is Algonquin for the good Land by the way, you
old morning wager.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go to Rob if he has any crime.
I really have nothing here. These are two teams and
I haven't sort of keyed in on at any point
this year, so it just it just hasn't hasn't come
up for me in my sort of research yet today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the real initial reaction here for me, guys being
a totals guys, I know they're both tempo teams. High
tempo teams. You're gonna get possessions, you're gonna get opportunities.
The problem with Little rockies a lot of times they
don't shoot straight and opportunities don't necessarily lead to points.
So the number seems to be pretty high, and if
there's injury consideration, you may want to even start looking
at that toward under tell you the truth if.
Speaker 1: There is a firm report on injury here. But that,
to me, that's where I would start that handicap. It's
just with pace.
Speaker 5: It's a lot like the Xavier handicap. You know they're
gonna get up and down. Points will be scored. But
in this case, the numbers almost won sixty and I
bet enough Little Rock games to know that there's instances
where they're thirty four percent from the field, et cetera,
et cetera, where you just don't get there because of them.
Speaker 3: All Right, it is we are three minutes from the
end of the show, so we should probably lock this
in right now, I am gonna go. I'm gonna go
with that game we talked about earlier. I'm gonna use
Western Kentucky for my guy Garth, who requested that game.
Speaker 2: We had such a good combo about that game.
Speaker 3: I truly believe that that was like faked toward Eastern
Kentucky and then they took Western Kentucky at the number
they wanted to.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll get there with a client
play for it at the current number, but it's it
would be it would be good enough to use in
the parlay in my opinion.
Speaker 2: So is that as Western Kentucky? What are we at there?
Are we are they favored?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Do I have the money line it? I'm just trying
to get an accurate number for the parlay.
Speaker 4: Let's just join in here. It is I mean, it's
this is really a books will vary.
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's extra board.
Speaker 3: So that's that's also another reason why I probably and
actually this could come back. So it's now a pick
most places. I should notice that the extra extra board
games will get will move a ton, and they also
can move back if someone else, If someone decides to
oppose it, so I'm gonna call it Western Kentucky pick.
We did the full breakdown of that one already, so
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We'd love to hear from you. As far as the
parlay is concerned, we're up against it, so I'm gonna
recapp our parlay. We had a tremendous week one of
parlays and plus fifteen point two two units. Today's is
a six to one. It's just a three teamer. Everything
is minus one ten. I'm going with Western Kentucky pick.
Brian Power is going with Wilmington, kent State under one
sixty and a half. And then we've got another team
total from Rob Bino Xavier team total over seventy nine
and a half. Fast today's parlay. Let's see if we
can start the week off strong.
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