WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.279 Here's another show you can enjoy in the True Story 2 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:04.320 FM family of Entertainment podcasts. 3 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:06.480 Ever, wonder where the devil got his horns? 4 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:08.519 How about those clove and hoovers? For that pitchforks with 5 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:09.439 me an angel? 6 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:10.439 No, he was a snake. 7 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:12.000 No, he's the great Red Drag. 8 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:14.919 No, he's the beast. He's the Prince of this world, 9 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:18.120 Prince of Darkness, believes, the Prince of dark Good morning, 10 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:20.519 Star lovelyi'es. One of my names is Lester Ryan. 11 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:22.839 Clark, and I sometimes go by Keenan Dias. 12 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:24.760 And we're the hosts of the brand new podcast The 13 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:28.079 Devil's Details. 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Today 35 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:20.879 we learn that Cobra Kai will never die, that some 36 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:24.560 characters plotlines will always be a reset, and that adults 37 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:28.840 are never ever ever around when kids start fighting. Yes, 38 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:32.799 it is we are back talking about Cobra Kai Season six, 39 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:36.200 the final season, though there are movies coming out still, 40 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:39.680 the Cobra Kai universe apparently will go on forever. It 41 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.840 is myself, Matthew Fox, Riki Hayashi, and our normal co 42 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:47.680 host for Superherothics and returning guest original co host Grand 43 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:54.719 High Pooba of Wrong Opinions, Paul Hoppy. Okay, so we're 44 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:56.879 back in the Cobra Kai world. We have the first 45 00:01:56.920 --> 00:01:59.040 five episodes. What do we think? 46 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:05.079 Yeah, so season six, part one of three. That's how 47 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:05.640 they're released. 48 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:08.599 The first third of season season. 49 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:11.479 Six, which is okay, like that's a that's the thing. 50 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:13.840 You can do now, right, that's just that what it is. 51 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:21.719 I So, if any show can be a guilty pleasure 52 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:24.240 for me, this is a guilty pleasure for me in 53 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:28.039 that enjoy this. I enjoy this show because I enjoyed 54 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:32.400 The Karate Kid the original movie, and I feel a 55 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:36.400 little guilty for enjoying it because gosh, there's so many 56 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:41.280 like problematic things going on, like in the show universe, 57 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:44.120 and like I guess we'll say production of the show. 58 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:47.560 I'm not sure that it makes me like should I 59 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:50.439 be enjoying this? I don't know, but I do because 60 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.319 like it was basically made for me and us, right, 61 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:59.000 like people of our age generation. It's basically the target audience. 62 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:02.199 I feel like, Yeah, I mean, I think they're trying 63 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:07.240 to hit a broad swath by having, you know, the 64 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.680 protagonists be younger and have that the way to kind 65 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:15.120 of I imagine in their mind try to attract a younger audience. 66 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:18.800 But definitely, i'd say the heart of the show is 67 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:19.639 as kind. 68 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:23.400 Of yeah, the nostalgia media, Like we get so much 69 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:25.599 of it with reboots and stuff, and this is just 70 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:30.800 a nostalgic TV series pining for the eighties of the 71 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:31.479 karatey kid. 72 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:34.680 I mean, I think it's both of what you're talking about, 73 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.360 because this is gonna be a weird thought because all 74 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.360 three of us I know are very young at heart, 75 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:41.639 but quite a lot of folks our age and of 76 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.960 our generation even a little older, have kids who are 77 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:48.919 about the age of the younger protagonists in this show, 78 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:52.280 or a little younger. And I think that what I'm 79 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.680 seeing is that a lot of these nostalgia eighties shows, 80 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:58.360 especially ones that are nostalgia for the teen shows of 81 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:02.560 the eighties and movies, it's aimed at us who were 82 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:04.599 kids then, and I was also aimed at, you know, 83 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:06.319 the kids of our generation. The idea that you know, 84 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:10.319 families can watch together and stuff like that. Yeah, I 85 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:14.479 kind of a similar feeling of it. I am. I 86 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:16.800 don't know if I would have watched it if we 87 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:19.000 weren't recording on it, but I wanted to watch it, 88 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:20.480 so I kind of twisted your arms so that we 89 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:23.240 could record on it because I feel like there's so 90 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:25.480 much that I don't like about it and so much 91 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:28.600 I'm frustrated about, but I'm still like glad that I'm 92 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:29.120 watching it. 93 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:32.079 Yeah, I would say that I enjoy the show but 94 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:33.680 I don't particularly like it. 95 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:36.199 That's fair, that's fair. 96 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:39.240 I like that. I like that, and and the term 97 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:42.519 guilty pleasure popped into my head, and like, I don't 98 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.519 feel guilty about watching it because I don't feel like 99 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:48.360 a lot of people were harmed in the making of it. 100 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:52.839 And for what I feel like, it's not like deeply 101 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:56.560 trafficking and problematic stereotypes, but I feel like it's and 102 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:58.800 we can certainly get into that. I'm sure we will, 103 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:03.959 but like, at the same time, it's definitely it's definitely 104 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:07.639 not doing a very good job in the other direction either, Yeah, right, 105 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:11.839 Like I feel like it. There's a lot to say there, 106 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.720 and that's that's a whole thing. But like I think 107 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:17.199 there's a lot of shows and movies that are or 108 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:22.639 have done a lot worse in those regards. As a 109 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:26.240 martial artist, I find it fun to watch martial arts 110 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:29.879 school related comment content, and not just as a martial artist, 111 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.600 but as someone who ran a martial arts school for 112 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:33.879 a couple of years and taught for you know, over 113 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:36.439 a decade, Like I can relate to a lot of 114 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:40.560 this stuff, But then also there's this like that's that's 115 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:45.160 not right, Like, you know, like down to like small 116 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:49.120 things like watching you know them practice tong sudo and 117 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:51.199 I don't even know where they were. I don't know. 118 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:53.600 I like I thought they were in Korea, but like 119 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:57.120 maybe they were in a forest in southern California. I'm 120 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:57.879 not not sure. 121 00:05:58.000 --> 00:05:59.560 No, I think that was all supposed to be in Korea. 122 00:05:59.879 --> 00:06:01.920 Was supposed to be in Korea, Okay, because I was 123 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.639 watching that, Yeah yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, But 124 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.720 like I also feel like that wasn't super clear because 125 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:08.600 like how the heck did Grease get to Korea in 126 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:10.600 back just like that when he's. 127 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.319 Yeah, there's a warrant out for his. 128 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:15.279 Own yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 129 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.560 Military, so therefore he had contact. 130 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:23.439 Yeah exactly. Like they're speaking in you know, in Korean, 131 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:25.839 they're you know, huge hug, like come on, like you know, 132 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:28.439 Hanna Du said, like there, it's like, ah, this is 133 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.759 like a taekwondo class. Well it's not taekwondo, it's it's tongue, 134 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:35.480 which is another martial art. But then they're like sense 135 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.519 since I'm like, ah oh, And to be fair, I've 136 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:43.279 never practiced tongue sudo, so I can't say authoritatively. You 137 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:47.160 don't call someone sense in tongue sudo, but like in 138 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:50.240 taekwondo and any other Korean martial arts, as far as 139 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:53.079 I'm aware, like that's not that's that's the Japanese word, 140 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:54.920 like you say some of him or kuan jan him 141 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:58.040 is like the grandmaster and and so it's like it 142 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:00.519 felt like they were like, yes, we're gonna at these seats, 143 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:01.959 but not this one. 144 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:04.680 That seems like a big detail to not get right 145 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:07.439 because yes, sense literally is just the word teacher, like 146 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:10.160 if you're in school, you have your sense is as well. 147 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:15.079 So it's not like a deeply rooted in martial arts word, right, 148 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:17.879 and it would need to be used in this context exactly. 149 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.560 And the very first I just wanted this last bit 150 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:23.839 the very first episode of Cobra Kai, which I rewatched, 151 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:26.040 and I was like this show was a little better 152 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:30.319 in the beginning, but like yeah, okay, it's like yes, yes, sir, 153 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.480 it's like sense, yes, sense, And Johnny's so insistent on 154 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.800 using the word sense, you know, and it's like, well 155 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:40.120 what do you be, Like what is that? But anyway, 156 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:43.519 I digress. Let's let's regress or something. 157 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:45.560 I think for many people, like it could be a 158 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:47.920 guilty pleasure, could be just family watching whatever it is. 159 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:50.480 For some folks, this podcast is a guilty pleasure. 160 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:51.000 Uh. 161 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:52.759 And so there are many folks you probably are listening 162 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:55.120 along with us who haven't actually seen the show. M m. 163 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:58.519 And many times I would say, go hit stop, make 164 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.800 your life better by watching the show. Oh I can't 165 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:03.959 say that now. I think you'll enjoy it. I think 166 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:05.800 you'll maybe throw some things at the screen. But some 167 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:08.040 people enjoy that kind of thing too. But for anyone 168 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:11.120 who hasn't, let me get a quick plot summary, and 169 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:13.759 you guys fill in anything that I miss. That's like vital. 170 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:18.600 So we start with peace in the valley. The antagonists 171 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:21.600 from last season have all been arrested or been otherwise 172 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:25.720 taken care of. All the romantic pairings have settled down 173 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:31.759 among the teens, all the family situations and dojo verse 174 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.840 dojo stuff has settled down. Everyone's happy under Miagi Doo 175 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:38.840 Ego Fang. We just don't have a name yet. And 176 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:42.639 there's peace. And when Danny says that in the first 177 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:45.080 epening scenes of the episode, of course you know that 178 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:49.120 that won't last. Turns out that everybody's been invited to 179 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:53.240 this World Fighting Tournament, a world martial arts tournament that 180 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:56.679 is maybe a world Karate tournament, but has not really 181 00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:00.960 said that that is maybe an under eighteen tournament, but 182 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:06.039 that's not actually said. That is you have to be 183 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:09.240 like some of the best in the world. But three 184 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:13.360 of the teams from a regional part of one state 185 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:17.759 of one nation have all gotten invites to That's interesting, 186 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.559 but the point is that's happening. So everyone's trying to train, 187 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:27.080 and there's tension between Danny and Johnny as always about 188 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:29.320 what's gonna be the name of the dojo and who's 189 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:31.399 gonna be the focus and what's gonna be the focus. 190 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:33.519 Johnny is kind of back to a lot of his 191 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:36.440 same old ways, which I don't love. We'll talk about 192 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:39.759 that in a bit. But also he's gonna become a parent, 193 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:44.799 so there's just this kind of like everyone's there's tension. 194 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:46.720 They kind of settle on that will do a kind 195 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:49.679 of Miagi do but have a little bit of eagle 196 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:51.759 thing in it. There's a fang now over the tree 197 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:56.840 and the logo. Johnny tries to like embrace Miyagi do, 198 00:09:57.039 --> 00:10:00.480 but also to put a little the aggression into it, 199 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.600 and there's some ridiculous sexism involved in that. And a 200 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:08.919 bachelor in a slumber party scene. But moving on, there's 201 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:11.159 a lot of little like high jinks that feel like 202 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:14.039 they're fun but are also just kind of like killing time. 203 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:16.480 There's a plot line about what college some of the 204 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:19.360 kids are going to go to. There's a plot line 205 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:23.440 about Johnny trying to find a new apartment. But all 206 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:26.720 this time, we've also found that Chris has gone to Korea, 207 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:32.879 back to the school of Matt sense Kim, uncle Kim, 208 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.000 grandfather Kim. I guess he's referred to here for those 209 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.559 who watched the last season, the woman who came in 210 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:43.120 to be a co leader with Crease of cobra Kai 211 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:47.159 who was absolutely not a sexy Asian dragon lady stereotype, 212 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.600 not in the slightest I said, with some sarcasm. We 213 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:53.759 find out that she only got trained by her grandfather 214 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:58.200 because Chris like fought to help that happen. He has 215 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:00.759 to come back and prove himself to the same grandfather, 216 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:04.200 and when he does by having hallucinogenic situation by being 217 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.000 bitten by a cobra, realizing that he has to stop 218 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:10.519 trying to save Johnny and kill the cobra, kill Johnny 219 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:15.000 and basically become a Sith lord, because then he then 220 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:17.639 tells everybody that, like the way to the way you 221 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:20.080 to feed people with heart is to be heartless and 222 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:23.279 to embrace your anger. The words he says are actually 223 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:26.159 pretty similar to the Sith code in a way that 224 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:30.080 I found kind of amusing. And so all of this 225 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:34.919 is building to a number of things. Tori is still 226 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:37.559 having problems. She doesn't feel quite accepted by the group, 227 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.279 and we find out that her mother winds up dying. 228 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:43.320 Her mother had always had serious medical problems, some of 229 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.200 them were drug related. Her mother dies, she doesn't tell anyone, 230 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:51.519 and because the next day is supposed to be the 231 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:54.519 big challenge to pick who are going to be the 232 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:57.080 captains of the team that's going to this big tournament 233 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:01.360 the shai kai is that how you pronounce it, secon 234 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.639 eye taykai, thank you you you can get that wrong. 235 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:05.720 We'd already had a couple of competitions to find out 236 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:08.919 who are the six from Miagido who are going to 237 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:12.480 go and represent and now the question is going to 238 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:15.840 be who's going to be the captain? And the boys fight, 239 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.279 Robbie wins he'll be the captain. The girls are in 240 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:22.159 the middle of a fight. Tory is clearly very upset, 241 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:25.919 but she's fighting well. And when she is presumably very 242 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:29.480 likely about to make a point on Sam and and 243 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:31.960 even up the fight at two to two, the fight 244 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:36.039 stops because Danny LaRusso and his wife and a Manna 245 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:39.919 Lusso have found out that Tory's mother has died, and 246 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:42.200 they have decided on her behalf that of course she 247 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:43.960 must not want to fight, and so the fight should 248 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.720 be stopped, and they make a big deal about how 249 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:48.639 she's not in a right mind to make this decision 250 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:53.320 right now, she gets angry and storms off. They immediately decide, well, 251 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:56.480 then she was in the right mind to quit, so 252 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:59.240 we're going to replace her on the team without any 253 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.240 attempt to her back. And then we all get to 254 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:05.480 the tournament and the different teams are introduced, and then 255 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:09.039 here comes a Cobra Kai team with a couple of 256 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.639 Korean fighters we saw who There's a whole plot line 257 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:15.120 there about you know, you have to slay the master 258 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.519 in order to become the master. Again, very sith related here, 259 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:21.320 although the apprentice gets to stick around, just with a 260 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:23.960 very bad black eye this time. And then who will 261 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:26.840 join them as their female captain. Of course it's Tori. 262 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:31.840 Is that a fair overview of the main issues we 263 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:33.720 discussed with the main issues that come up in the 264 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:34.679 in the season. 265 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:38.200 I feel like you skipped the bakeoff, baking competition or 266 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:42.039 whatever other irrelevant activities they did to choose the six, 267 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:47.879 Like they get this barns that's what was he in 268 00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:50.399 three or something. He's the guy who got his furniture 269 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:51.279 store burned down. 270 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:53.080 Yeah, oh yeah, that's right. 271 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:58.480 And just in the martial arts aspects, like he actually 272 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:02.039 his uniform or his belt says shotocn on it, which 273 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:04.759 is a specific style of car that's like not the 274 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:07.720 same as whatever else. The rest of them are grant 275 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:12.279 but and they asked him to choose the six and 276 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:15.240 then he has them play like capture the Flag, and 277 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:20.159 like it's just it's all just very like, let's turn 278 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:23.039 this into like one of those reality shows where we're 279 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:26.320 like eliminating people and who will be the last two eliminated? 280 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:29.000 You're safe and you're safe, but that and it's just 281 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:33.960 like okay, yeah, you know. So that that I felt 282 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:37.879 like was actually the the main thing. Oh and then 283 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.080 there's a thing with Miagi has some like dark past 284 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:45.279 that we didn't know about and he I hate it, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 285 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.799 And I was like, okay, but yeah it Honestly, to me, 286 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:50.600 it felt like it was kind of all over the place, 287 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:55.679 and the main idea was Miaggito choosing six members to 288 00:14:55.759 --> 00:15:00.720 go to this ak Tai Kai and then Cobra Kai 289 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:04.679 doing the same. Did they have any other female students? 290 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:10.720 No female captain by default? Then yea. 291 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.080 You know, there's a whole plot line about the grandfather 292 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:15.759 not wanting to let his granddaughter train because girls shouldn't 293 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:19.480 do martial arts. He lets her train. She's the master 294 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.240 of the school now, but there's still no women right right. 295 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:26.039 I want to get into the martial arts. I want 296 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:27.039 to get into plot and all of that. 297 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:27.879 I do. 298 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:29.840 Just want to, first though, say a big thank you. 299 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:31.519 We've been getting more and more people signing up to 300 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.600 become members. It's a fantastic thing to do. Only five 301 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:37.360 dollars a month, fifty five dollars a year you become 302 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:39.840 a member of both this podcast and our Star Wars 303 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:44.320 Universe podcast Star Wars Generations podcast. You get free content, 304 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:46.639 You get bonus content. At the end of episodes. 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Often I would 322 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.039 say carry our pigeons, but they're probably not very kind 323 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:37.080 to animals. So while Paul is here, I would say, 324 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:39.960 only if this is like a pigeon that has landed 325 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:42.440 on you and has like, let you know, it wants 326 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:44.480 to be a carrier pigeon of its own free will, 327 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:46.799 which would be quite a story and I probably would 328 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:48.159 want to invict. You want to tell us about that? 329 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.639 Yeah, yeah, I'd love to hear about it that. 330 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:52.679 Please think up becoming a member. Please send us in 331 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:57.440 your feedback. Now back to our conversation. Let's talk about 332 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.440 how martial arts is portrayed in the show, because it 333 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:02.360 seems you both have and I will say, I want 334 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:05.400 you to know how diverse a perspective on the show 335 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:08.000 we have. Because Paul can talk quite a lot about 336 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:11.680 his time as a professional running a martial arts school. 337 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:14.680 I can talk about my time as a professional car salesman, 338 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.359 which is also a very important plot point and is 339 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.319 also I think God is inaccurately as some of the 340 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.559 stuff about martial arts is. So either Paul or RIQUI 341 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:24.680 take us away. 342 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:28.160 Do it? Paul? Is this even karate? 343 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:33.519 I mean, I don't know, like yes and no. Right. 344 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.519 So here's the thing. When we first covered I think 345 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.079 seasons one and two and maybe three, I forget what 346 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:41.200 was out. I think we did one and two back 347 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:44.839 in the day, and my guess was that Cobra Kai 348 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:51.559 was based on Kyokushen Karate, which was created by Maso Yama, 349 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:57.160 who is Korean Japanese, and it has this reputation for 350 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:02.880 being extraordinarily brutal and just like a you know, like 351 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:06.680 he he invented this like hundred person kumite where like 352 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:09.640 you fight one hundred people in a row as like 353 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:12.599 a test. You know, he fought bulls, which I'm not 354 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:14.839 in favor of, but I will say he did it 355 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:16.880 with his bare hands. And if you're gonna fight a bull, 356 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:20.240 doing it with your bare hands seems more respectable to 357 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:23.359 me than having some you know, manufactured weapon. But like 358 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.720 it was this style that like really clearly to me 359 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:29.920 matched up with kind of the Cobra Kai style. It 360 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:32.319 turns out that Cobra Kai is actually more based on 361 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:39.319 toms Sudo, which is is sometimes referred to as Korean karate. Right, 362 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.960 Like the first time I took taekwondo, my teacher called it. 363 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:45.039 My teacher s henri Cho, which was one of the 364 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:49.920 first people to teach martial arts in the United States. 365 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:58.799 He and he had a dojang on and he called 366 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.200 it Korean Karate, and he wrote books called like the 367 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:03.759 Secrets of Korean Karate and this that might be the 368 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:09.079 exact title, but that was basically because Americans were familiar 369 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:12.160 with the word karate, right, or karte or however you 370 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:13.880 want to you know, whether you want to pronounce it 371 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:18.279 like in Japanese or I feel like there's an English 372 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:24.079 American pronunciation that like is like an English word now, 373 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:26.079 but that's kind of neither here nor there. 374 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:30.880 And the martial art itself has evolved, as you said, 375 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:35.400 like with the mixing of cultures and styles exactly first 376 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:39.240 in Asia and now in the America. It's like you 377 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.119 look at like mixed martial arts like jiu jitsu, like 378 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.400 how they have thrived and grown in South America, like 379 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:46.839 Brazilian jiu jitsu. 380 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:50.920 Like is a thing very different from the truths yeah, right, 381 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:56.640 And tanks udo the name means like way of the 382 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.440 China hands or fist, right, which is also what karthe 383 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:02.039 originally met. 384 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:07.319 Right. And then in like nineteen thirty five, the character 385 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:10.039 that was used for kara was changed because it's I 386 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:13.279 think it's like a homophone right to like empty hand. 387 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:15.880 Yeah, okay, And that. 388 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.599 Just happened to kind of coincide with Japan attacking China 389 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.559 and stuff like that, so you know, there was like 390 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:27.000 a but at the same time, like it's very legitimate 391 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:32.039 that like the roots of karate came from China like 392 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:37.079 hundreds of years ago through Okinawa and then Okinawa also 393 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.480 I think was independent, right and then got annexed or 394 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:47.079 and in Korean martial arts, in taekwondo, like we have 395 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:53.200 two patterns that are named after Korean patriots who have 396 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:57.599 a very anti Japanese history, one of whom was the 397 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:00.839 patterns called jung Gun, named after Anjun Goon, who, in 398 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:04.319 the description of the patriot of the pattern is referred 399 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:10.160 to as the Korean patriot who assassinated hero Boomi Eto 400 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:14.880 after the nineteen ten the like Korea Japan merger is 401 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:17.799