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<v Speaker 1>Calling a b as y'all, can I get a man

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<v Speaker 1>for calling?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh be Welcome back, everybody. I'm your host DJ on

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<v Speaker 2>a super exciting night here because we're gonna be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about something totally new that we have not talked about

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<v Speaker 2>on CAB before. And you know what I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>because one of my homies introduced me to this topic.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're talking about my man just en route and

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to him when he got shot down with

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<v Speaker 2>thirty plus bullets by BP d O DOUBLEG. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna we're gonna get into it, and we have some

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<v Speaker 2>special people here tonight to talk to about this. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a star of the Halloween party and we have

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<v Speaker 2>her friend, a victim advocate, so that that was the victim,

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<v Speaker 2>you know herself really because it was it was her

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<v Speaker 2>brother and that of course is Jen. So without further,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's a serious topic. You know how we enter

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<v Speaker 2>on Cab, we gotta intro everybody and show them as

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<v Speaker 2>much love as we feel, because there's nothing fake about that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. So all right, without further,

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<v Speaker 2>let's put it together. Yeah, and no, even before you

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<v Speaker 2>put your hands together, let me just describe this all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you you know, you head up to Massachusetts and

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<v Speaker 2>you you go to the Turtle Boy party and you

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<v Speaker 2>really don't know anybody, and a lot of these people

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<v Speaker 2>know each other and they recognize each other and then

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<v Speaker 2>someone comes and says hello and shakes your hand and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like introduce you around. So while I was there,

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<v Speaker 2>I met a lot of stars, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>stars that are at these standouts that are going and

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<v Speaker 2>tweeting and bringing all these justic topics that Turtle Boys started.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're they're keeping it going and keeping that inertia

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<v Speaker 2>and that momentum going. And so there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stars there. But the biggest star that I met is

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<v Speaker 2>this young lady right here. We're talking about be a.

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<v Speaker 3>Dance put your hands together for Beatreans?

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<v Speaker 4>Hello?

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<v Speaker 5>Hello?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get him for Beatrice? Please? Yeah? Sorry, I

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<v Speaker 2>had to do it to you, home girl.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all good, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? And so you know, you you you've been doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you've you've met this young lady. How did

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<v Speaker 2>you meet Jen? How did this come about?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 5>I men Jene at a Karen Read standout. She was

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<v Speaker 5>I was, you know, I showed up with my sign

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<v Speaker 5>ready to show some support, and this really nice person

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<v Speaker 5>named Jen was there with her sign that said they

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<v Speaker 5>can't investigate themselves. And she was very welcoming and she

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<v Speaker 5>told me she you know, she said, have you heard

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<v Speaker 5>about Justin route? And I said, I mean, like, I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like I vaguely remembered the situation. But she opened

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<v Speaker 5>up her heart to me and told me everything, and

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<v Speaker 5>it was very touching and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was very moving.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously I could tell, like, uh, it's pretty obvious to

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<v Speaker 2>me how moved you are by Jen Justin in his story.

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<v Speaker 2>It's apparent to me because you are like, we gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make this episode happen, like post haste djor like yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you got it. Man, it's got me a new program director.

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<v Speaker 2>So no and uh and then you gave me Jen's

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<v Speaker 2>information and we began to text and then voicemail and

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff. Of course I try to

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<v Speaker 2>call it. She be like, man, who is this bald

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<v Speaker 2>ass call me? But anyway, alright, so we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get into it. So Jen, I've listened to her,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the things that you figure out is

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<v Speaker 2>she's rather, let's say, on point, she knows what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>She's analyzed everything that's happened down to uh the nth degree.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will tell you that if you are on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of this lady.

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<v Speaker 6>You ain't gonna get nothing past her. I can guarantee

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<v Speaker 6>that that is folk. You know, I'm talking about to

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<v Speaker 6>put your hands together.

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<v Speaker 2>But justin root, sister yet, can I get up?

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<v Speaker 4>Amen?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome And this is the kind of clapping I did

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<v Speaker 2>when you guys weren't even on air when she just

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<v Speaker 2>came on the screen. So welcome, man, it's great. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an honor to have you here, that you would share

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<v Speaker 2>your story with us. We will get serious now. We

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<v Speaker 2>do sort of kind of think of like an electrical

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<v Speaker 2>sign wave, you know, alternating current goes up and down beaches,

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, man, I'm an electrical engineering shut up. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so so yeah, so we do. You know, we do

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<v Speaker 2>joke around a little bit, but we realize that these

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<v Speaker 2>are extreme. Hey, and there's my COEs for this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Brid happens. What's up? Home girl, Tima is in the house, Tricia,

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<v Speaker 2>my Justice.

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<v Speaker 4>Sistan, my Justice peeps. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome everybody, Welcome everybody, and my homeye Reality Check is like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like what happens here? You know what what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? So I want to start off with I'll

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<v Speaker 2>take the first question. Then we'll let we'll alternate and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get my my co host Beatrice in here. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you What was the relationship between you and Justin?

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<v Speaker 2>How many years differences there between you? What was your relationship?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I'm so Justin was my younger brother. We did

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<v Speaker 4>have a half brother, we never grew up with him,

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<v Speaker 4>So Justin was my younger brother. But as he got older,

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<v Speaker 4>right he became like six one or so or six two,

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<v Speaker 4>I used to be like, you're my little big brother

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<v Speaker 4>because he would give me the biggest bear cubs, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. I'm like, all right, but this

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<v Speaker 4>is my little brother. You're always gonna be my little brother.

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<v Speaker 4>So we up together in Jamaica plane and in Brookline.

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<v Speaker 4>We spent a lot of years in Brookline, So where

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<v Speaker 4>he was killed, we actually used to run through that

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<v Speaker 4>parking lot to movie theater together. So to know that

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<v Speaker 4>that's where he took his last breaths is pretty like surreal.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a surreal thing. Yeah. So anyway, we were close

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like his protector, and I really took

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<v Speaker 4>on the rule of like, you know, taking care of

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<v Speaker 4>him and bringing him to my friend's birthday parties, going

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<v Speaker 4>home after school because I needed to, you know, someone

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<v Speaker 4>needed to be there. And so anyway, now i'm his, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, person on this side to help raise awareness

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<v Speaker 4>and wake people up.

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<v Speaker 2>As you were into it. I'm sorry, I did I

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<v Speaker 2>mean interrupt? Man, Please continue, No, you go ahead. As

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<v Speaker 2>you were as you got older, you know, what was

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<v Speaker 2>your relationship like as you got older?

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I had kids, so you know, he

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have kids, so it got a little different. But

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<v Speaker 4>we spent holidays together. We were always texting with each other,

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<v Speaker 4>and we would see each other and I obviously you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was his birthday. Holidays, he would come over and

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<v Speaker 4>play ping pong with my boys, and he would always

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<v Speaker 4>be that person if he needed stuff moved, he was

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<v Speaker 4>your guy. I needed to go to the airport and

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<v Speaker 4>drop her whole family off. I mean, my kids were like,

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<v Speaker 4>who's taking us to the airport now? And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he was just always there for those types of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome and he Yeah, I listened to the video you

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<v Speaker 2>sent me, and very heartfelt very thoughtful kind of a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me let let me let my homegirl get in

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<v Speaker 2>here and be Atrice my closed. See if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>ready and I can keep going.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, you're just warming up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Man's announce.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's announce the exciting, the exciting.

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<v Speaker 5>News, the exciting news. So two weeks from today, Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 5>November thirteenth, we're going to have a standout at DA

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<v Speaker 5>Michael Morrissey's office. This is you know, a collaboration with

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<v Speaker 5>Sander Birchmore Free, Karen reid Enriquel Gardo Garcia and of

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<v Speaker 5>course justin Route. So we're very excited to come together

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, get out there and show show some love.

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<v Speaker 4>Show some unity, show solidarity that we're all not going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 4>and we just we see the group getting larger and

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<v Speaker 4>larger and larger. For anybody who's like listening and watching

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<v Speaker 4>right now and you're in Massachusetts, we are so welcoming.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I have met the most awesome people and

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<v Speaker 4>so it's just come up to one of us. We're

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<v Speaker 4>happy to be like, hey, what's your name and start

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<v Speaker 4>introducing you to people, and you know there's a real community.

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<v Speaker 2>I can second that that motion not only did I

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<v Speaker 2>go to school in Massachusetts at the amazing Dean College,

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<v Speaker 2>but coming back there and then going to this event

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<v Speaker 2>where I didn't know anybody and like everybody was quite welcoming,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, like I said, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of The biggest star was Beatrice, but she wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>only star. There's other stars there. Turtle Boy was there too.

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<v Speaker 2>So but let's say a couple of people in the

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<v Speaker 2>chat and we want to make sure we acknowledge the homies,

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<v Speaker 2>so SDS I can.

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<v Speaker 4>Say everyone, it's two weeks from today. So it's November thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 4>from two pm to five pm at Michael Morrissey's office,

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<v Speaker 4>which is Shawma. I think it's forty five, Shama wrote

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<v Speaker 4>in Canton and.

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<v Speaker 2>So figure.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what, there'll be lots of extra signs

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<v Speaker 4>and we are definitely producing a lot of signs that

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<v Speaker 4>have everyone's picture on it. But I would just say come.

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<v Speaker 2>On down, meatball morrisey, make sure you bring your Italian

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<v Speaker 2>bread and just so it's a little low carb, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of pull out the center before you load the meatballs

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<v Speaker 2>in there. But we got a couple of people for

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday's roundtable that are here Jason is here. Good evening, Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>It's first time we've had him in the chat. He

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<v Speaker 2>and I just met and honored that he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>come on. ST's here. Who introduced actually Beatrice introduced me

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<v Speaker 2>to SD Tima. Do you know her? All right? Cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that him or her? Him?

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<v Speaker 4>Tim? Yeah? Tim, I actually drove my dad home from

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<v Speaker 4>the stand up that we had a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey, welcome Tim. I. I don't know if you've been here,

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<v Speaker 2>but one says Karen has court on AM that day

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<v Speaker 2>for dad's phone records. Oh, that would be dope man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and yeah. So they're basically they're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>you know, speaking of somebody really who could connect with

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<v Speaker 2>the Garcias, the Delgatto Garcia family. I think that would

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<v Speaker 2>be Beatrice, uh, because it doesn't seem like, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, like, boy, do they need somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>help them out because they're just not I feel so

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<v Speaker 2>bad they're not getting enough traction on their case, much

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, Justin's case. With that, my friend, could

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<v Speaker 2>you briefly go through just the the overarching elements of

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<v Speaker 2>what happened and then we're kind of kind of dig

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<v Speaker 2>into where things were right and where things went wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we're going to sort of culminate with where

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<v Speaker 2>we can go from here. So let's let's start with

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what happened, if you would.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and I'll just give kind of more of an overview,

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<v Speaker 4>won't get too into details, but this, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>I only had three minutes to tell you what was

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<v Speaker 4>going on, that's that's kind of where I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>go with this. Justin suffered from mental illness and he

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<v Speaker 4>was down amongst four other mental health facilities right there,

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<v Speaker 4>from Brigham which ended with, you know, them shaking hands.

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<v Speaker 4>My brother put out his hand and they shook hands.

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<v Speaker 4>My brother never had threatened that officer, never had taken

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<v Speaker 4>this one officer just went right up to Justin and anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>his clear plastic paintball gun. He yelled on with law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 4>he then just took off from there. Meanwhile, he's bleeding out,

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<v Speaker 4>They chased him. He crashed at a high speed. Wheels

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<v Speaker 4>just the horrific condition that he was in and that

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<v Speaker 4>a stick to open his jacket. Wow, totally completely out

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<v Speaker 4>of it, eyes rolling in the back of his head, gurgling.

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<v Speaker 4>You not good. So she was confused because she's like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>But while that was all happening, and this all happened

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<v Speaker 4>very fast, all these officers started running with their guns.

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<v Speaker 4>They told her to run. She ran, and one officer

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<v Speaker 4>kicked them and then from pretty much being almost on

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<v Speaker 4>top of him, it looks like and appears pictures, and

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<v Speaker 4>very small mult area. They unloaded thirty one bullets and

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<v Speaker 4>afterwards that same officer from Boston who was the closest

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<v Speaker 4>to him in Brookline. He said, I killed the mother

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<v Speaker 4>f and I emptied my magazine on him. He also

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<v Speaker 4>lied about his body worn camera, and there's footage of

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<v Speaker 4>him taking it off and throwing it into his cruiser.

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<v Speaker 4>And he also had someone else's department issue firearm. There's

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<v Speaker 4>just a lot, you know. Anyway, that's the gist of.

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<v Speaker 2>The gist of what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Of what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to mention to the people in the chat,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you going to do is I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>star your chats and then we're, uh, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see if we can get to them now. So then there,

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<v Speaker 4>You know. What I forgot to say is that he

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<v Speaker 4>right hand, one of which that went through, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And that would that would be the indication, that would

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<v Speaker 2>have been the indication that he's not a threat at

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<v Speaker 2>that point. So that's all I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're covered in blood and you're on the ground

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<v Speaker 4>and this woman is literally at his side and she's

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<v Speaker 4>not afraid. You can't be, you know, offices with guns

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<v Speaker 4>and tell me that you're afraid, because that's zero sense.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other part is obviously, I think not obviously.

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<v Speaker 4>The Norfolk District Attorney Office Michael Morrissey concluded their investigation

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<v Speaker 4>in thirty days. A lot of the same exact investigators

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<v Speaker 4>who are in the officer John O'Keefe's case and also

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<v Speaker 4>Sander Birchmoorre's case, you name it, Proctor Fanning, Buchanick, they're

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<v Speaker 4>all they're all in it. Okay. So you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I have issue with is they're holy inadequate investigations, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and police are some sort of law enforcement officer is

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<v Speaker 4>involved with the death. Norfolk District Attorney's Office comes in

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<v Speaker 4>and look.

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<v Speaker 2>You're screwed. You're screwed. Well, we're gonna we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>to some of these details and then we'll try to

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<v Speaker 2>commingle this with Roger Fortson. And so for those of

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<v Speaker 2>you who are listening right now before we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the chat, and this is the reason why, is because

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff Eric Aiden in Oklahoosa County, Florida did it right.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a sheriff that came to the door of

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<v Speaker 2>Senior Airman Roger Fortson from my former duty station, Herbert Field,

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<v Speaker 2>fourth Special Operation Squadron gunner and he's banging on the

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<v Speaker 2>guy's door like he's pounding on a drug den somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in Cartagena. And he, uh, when the kid comes to

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<v Speaker 2>has a firearm in nine mile pointed at the ground

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, tape it basically taped to it. As

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<v Speaker 2>soon as this guy opens the door, sees wep and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes step back and he just fires six shots

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<v Speaker 2>into the kids chest and then says, drop the gun.

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<v Speaker 2>And the kids on the floor, gone, dude, I dropped

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<v Speaker 2>the gun as he's got you know, holes in him.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened? Okloosa County sheriffs the next day they

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<v Speaker 2>fired Deputy Eddie Durant, and like a day after that

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<v Speaker 2>they arrested Deputy Eddie Durant on charges of manslaughter. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it's supposed to be done. Uh that what

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<v Speaker 2>what Sheriff Eric Ayden did you know? I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was very very very very quick and now of course

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<v Speaker 2>he's in jail awaiting trial on these charges. So uh,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to what's going on in the chat here.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get to oh from Jason. Wait, let's let

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<v Speaker 2>Beatrice read this man. Go ahead, home girl.

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<v Speaker 5>This one says Jen, My heart is with you. The

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<v Speaker 5>courage that it takes for you to recount this story

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<v Speaker 5>is amazing. I am so proud of you.

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<v Speaker 2>I must day badass woman and nothing getting by her.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay from my homie reality check, also known as participate

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<v Speaker 2>and speculate, which is what we love doing. Go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>with this one. Please at calling.

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<v Speaker 5>All beings have they contacted ACLU.

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<v Speaker 4>So we had a representation pretty much from the get

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<v Speaker 4>go and the ACLU, which actually this is an interesting

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<v Speaker 4>story that nobody knows about. It turned out at that

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<v Speaker 4>time for the ACL Massachusetts, they're head of marketing. I

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<v Speaker 4>do you guys have any ideas of like people I

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<v Speaker 4>could contact or reach? And He's like, I knew justin

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<v Speaker 4>he and I used to make music together. Wow, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>are you serious? I mean he's just recently left there,

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<v Speaker 4>but I just thought that the connection is just you realize,

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<v Speaker 4>you know the world is.

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<v Speaker 2>Small, serendipitous to say the least, especially if he could

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<v Speaker 2>influence on them taking on his you know, his case

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<v Speaker 4>And I wish that the a c l U would

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<v Speaker 4>United States Supreme Court. But that's you know, something that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that that bears more, uh, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe there can be some advocacy on that on

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<v Speaker 2>that that front as well as in addition, to meet

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Morrisey again, make sure to bring your bread hollow

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<v Speaker 2>at the center and will bring a bag of Parmesan

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<v Speaker 2>chiefs to sprinkle there. Yes, it's is from Spanish, Harlem,

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Giuliani used to have a table every Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Hey, I just.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to tell you too, everybody. These officers were interviewed

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<v Speaker 4>five days after they killed Justin, and most of them

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<v Speaker 4>met as a group before they were even interviewed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're kidding. They didn't separate, no divide and conquer

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<v Speaker 2>and put them in separate, putting.

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<v Speaker 4>Them sticky all the way down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why isn't the surprising? Would you please do the honors,

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Beatrice?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure it defies logic that a cop of twenty nine

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<v Speaker 5>years would run up to someone if they truly believed

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<v Speaker 5>they were armed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I know they're training everything that they're taught.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you really truly believe someone is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>has a firearm, that is not what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what this. I don't know. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure what to tim saying here.

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<v Speaker 4>You must be talking to somebody.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a private chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah apparently so, and we'll get back to Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>put something in all caps if you will, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want me.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's something right here. Uh. This one needs someone

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<v Speaker 2>who speaks far better than I, so we better get beat.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, let's go. The Norfolk d A and the

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<v Speaker 5>MSP Detachment have two different standards of investigation, depending on

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<v Speaker 5>whether a law enforcement officer faces potential liability in a case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so if it's Brian Walsh, you know they're

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and look who's here.

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<v Speaker 3>Missy in the Izzy like Fin Lizzy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Missy. We're super excited to be coming together and

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<v Speaker 4>you know this is what it's going to take to

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<v Speaker 4>really put some big spotlights on Morrissey and let all

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<v Speaker 4>those people inside there. No, we're we're going nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I refuse to give them the grace to

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<v Speaker 2>say that they are incompetent, or that it was a

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<v Speaker 2>shoddy investigation or things were missed. You don't miss thirty

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<v Speaker 2>And I will not give them the grace of saying

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<v Speaker 2>with a plan, and was tactical. And even we can

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<v Speaker 2>go to a larger level, because what's larger than tactical,

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<v Speaker 2>photos of the tail light. Strategic is In the end,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to this one. These people are coming up

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<v Speaker 5>So let's see. He freaking fell down trying to run

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<v Speaker 2>H That's like, yeah, that's like come on, man, and

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<v Speaker 2>this one here, So we'll get you. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>you next. Britt Happens, co host for the next show

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<v Speaker 2>that we're having. Okay, so my question is the officer

422
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<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to the officer that he

423
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<v Speaker 2>interacted with a Brigham and was a Brigham and women's

424
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<v Speaker 2>were okay, So where what happened in between he interacting

425
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<v Speaker 2>with that officer and then that officer calling this into BPD.

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<v Speaker 2>So because I want to kind of go some point

427
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<v Speaker 2>by point.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, So the Brigham security guard that he had spoke

429
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<v Speaker 4>with and like shook hands with, uh, he's the one

430
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<v Speaker 4>who called.

431
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<v Speaker 2>His uh you know, control center and center and it's.

432
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<v Speaker 4>The command center that then called BPD. So there was

433
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<v Speaker 4>and I can't get way into like everything was said

434
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<v Speaker 4>because of pending litigation. Sure, but you know things things

435
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<v Speaker 4>should have been said or not said. That's with that.

436
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<v Speaker 4>So what else can I tell.

437
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<v Speaker 2>You pending litigation? Maybe you can expound upon that. What

438
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<v Speaker 2>does that mean?

439
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<v Speaker 4>It means that I had that there's a current pending

440
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<v Speaker 4>lawsuit with against It has to do with the estate

441
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<v Speaker 4>of justin Route and Brigham and Women's.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Oh against okay, against the security apparatus at the hospital, yes, okay,

443
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<v Speaker 2>all right, not shut my damn mouth.

444
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<v Speaker 4>And that only actually that only occurred because the person, Oh,

445
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<v Speaker 4>I didn't mention this, and this is kind of a

446
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<v Speaker 4>big deal because you know, fifteen votes were flying around

447
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:28.039
<v Speaker 4>and ricocheting, and actually one of those hit the ballet

448
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<v Speaker 4>and I forgot about name Justin by the way, Justin

449
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:35.160
<v Speaker 4>and his family's from Ashland and my dad's family's from Ashland.

450
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you can't make this stuff up. I mean

451
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<v Speaker 4>it just I remember my friends, like, you know, the

452
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<v Speaker 4>vallet's name is Justin, and I'm like what, But anyway,

453
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:46.480
<v Speaker 4>he got hit in the head, and uh, he survived,

454
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:50.559
<v Speaker 4>but he has long you know, long term like forever injuries.

455
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<v Speaker 4>And he was doing the hospital and Justin's estate and

456
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 4>it looks like Boston police settled or the city of

457
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<v Speaker 4>Boston settled with him for the max amount of one

458
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<v Speaker 4>hundred thousand. And then during that a deeper look into

459
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:11.960
<v Speaker 4>Boston is when I started to know a lot more

460
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<v Speaker 4>about what happened in more detail. And then I said, okay,

461
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<v Speaker 4>well we got to people need to be held accountable,

462
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<v Speaker 4>and people need to also make changes, because ain't no

463
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<v Speaker 4>changes happened since then?

464
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<v Speaker 2>Say say it again, girlfriend, ain't.

465
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<v Speaker 4>No changes since it happened back then?

466
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<v Speaker 2>Not okay, Now I gotta shut my big trapper and

467
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<v Speaker 2>let my get up in there.

468
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<v Speaker 4>I just threw that in there for you later on

469
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<v Speaker 4>I through my British accent.

470
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<v Speaker 2>You were so much fun, man, you know that. I

471
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<v Speaker 2>mean we're here talking about.

472
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 4>I worked at Disney Radio station and one time I

473
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<v Speaker 4>had to do the commercial how is the Glenda the Good?

474
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<v Speaker 4>Which Oh it was so much fun.

475
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.

476
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.799
<v Speaker 4>I used to go, this is great.

477
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<v Speaker 2>See. I just want to say, you come and calling

478
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.920
<v Speaker 2>all beings. You're gonna have fun even when we're talking

479
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.279
<v Speaker 2>about tragedy, you know, because we got to. I've got

480
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.559
<v Speaker 2>to let it go. Man, all right, let me get

481
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 2>my home girl in here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I do have a question for Jen. So I

483
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<v Speaker 5>was actually looking up last night Continuum of Force, and

484
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<v Speaker 5>my question to you was, did you ever find out

485
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<v Speaker 5>if the police used any de escalation tactics? You know,

486
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<v Speaker 5>because actually one of the things that I research is

487
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<v Speaker 5>that Boston PD has you know, there are certain parameters,

488
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<v Speaker 5>like if there's a mental crisis, there's certain de escalation

489
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<v Speaker 5>that they should have attempted to do before obviously using

490
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<v Speaker 5>deadly force, because it just seems that with proper training

491
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<v Speaker 5>for our officers, with proper de escalation tactics, that maybe

492
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<v Speaker 5>this could have been avoided.

493
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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, this could definitely have been avoided. There was

494
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<v Speaker 4>essentially no de escalation. If anything, they escalated every step

495
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<v Speaker 4>of the way. A lot of people don't know what

496
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 4>the state trooper that you know jumped in the last

497
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<v Speaker 4>few seconds, he had also a taser, you know, and

498
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:25.160
<v Speaker 4>also the one that kicked him. He could have apprehended him.

499
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<v Speaker 4>But see, I think Justin was covered in so much

500
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<v Speaker 4>blood he was like, Eh, I'm not going to be talking,

501
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to be touching him. So yes, there

502
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<v Speaker 4>is and that's what's really concerning. And I know that,

503
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<v Speaker 4>you know, from a deep dive with Boston Police. I

504
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<v Speaker 4>know they killed another mentally ill manned named Terence Coleman,

505
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<v Speaker 4>and their family just had a settlement with them. And

506
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.079
<v Speaker 4>it's one of the reasons I think anyway, from looking

507
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<v Speaker 4>at all the legal documents, is that Boston police had

508
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<v Speaker 4>in twenty ten or twenty twelve, they had done an EDP,

509
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<v Speaker 4>which is emotionally disturbed person and had actually, ay are

510
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 4>something some sort of you know, written up, but they

511
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 4>never implemented it, and so Terence Coleman dies, Hey a

512
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 4>few years later, justin Route dies. You know, I don't

513
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:18.759
<v Speaker 4>see that policy on their website, so you know, who

514
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<v Speaker 4>knows if it's ever going to be implemented. And that's

515
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<v Speaker 4>horrifying because they really, you know, this day and age,

516
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot going on and you know, wait, I'm

517
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<v Speaker 4>going to go on a tangent for a second. Can

518
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<v Speaker 4>I do that? The one of the things is is

519
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.240
<v Speaker 4>that officers like this is a big burden for them too.

520
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<v Speaker 4>And that's one of the reasons why I got so

521
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<v Speaker 4>involved with trying to pass the Medical Civil Rights Act

522
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<v Speaker 4>in Massachusetts, which is, if someone is experiencing an emergency crisis,

523
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<v Speaker 4>whether that be a diabetic shock, a stroke, whatever it

524
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 4>may be, you call EMS and you get them help

525
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.480
<v Speaker 4>because we shouldn't officers shouldn't be standing there like trying

526
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.440
<v Speaker 4>to decide is this an emergency or not medical? That's

527
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.119
<v Speaker 4>for EMS to decide. And so it's unfortunate that our

528
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:13.920
<v Speaker 4>legislators haven't prioritized that, But they did prioritize the Nero's

529
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<v Speaker 4>Law which is emergency medical care for a police dog.

530
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.839
<v Speaker 4>So they certainly can do it for human beings.

531
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just the part of that that's important is police dog.

532
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Because if it was just your dog or my dog,

533
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:33.119
<v Speaker 2>they you know, maybe don't care. But because it's yeah,

534
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 2>police dog. The word police. And I've said this over

535
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>and over and I'm going to say it on this

536
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 2>show about the Blue backing the Blue in terms of whatever.

537
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 2>If I do something illegal, I'm backing them. If they

538
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 2>do something immoral, I'm backing them. If they commit a crime,

539
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm backing them. If they kill somebody, I'm backing them.

540
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 2>So I want to make this analogy and I'm going

541
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<v Speaker 2>to do it again for the tenth straight show. And

542
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<v Speaker 2>I'm kidding. It's not that many. The Navies see even

543
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:09.079
<v Speaker 2>more danger in combat than most officers see when they're

544
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 2>on the ground and they're going and going, hitting high

545
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>value targets, performing direct action hits on terraces and so

546
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>forth on the ground in Afghanistana Rock the guys who

547
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:25.839
<v Speaker 2>dimed out Chief Eddie Gallagher, I'm talking about Navy Chief

548
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:31.519
<v Speaker 2>Eddie Gallagher were seals and what they died. One of

549
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>the things that I haven't seen all the charges against

550
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Eddie Gallagher, but one of the things that they dined

551
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.839
<v Speaker 2>him out about is they had captured a fifteen year

552
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>old insurgent and he shot and killed the kid, and

553
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>that violates the law of armed conflict and the Geneva

554
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Conventions and what we stand for. So this I'm gonna

555
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>say it again, everybody, I want you to listen real closely.

556
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>If you're a police officer and you're listening to this,

557
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>because we know that the most of you are not

558
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<v Speaker 2>the ones doing this. The majority of you are upholding

559
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 2>the law, that swore an oath, that puts your hand

560
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>over your heart, and that believe in following the law,

561
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 2>upholding the law, keeping the peace. Uh, And so we

562
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 2>love and respect you guys. These are the few that

563
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, not the minority of police officers that

564
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>are doing this, not the majority. But I'm speaking to

565
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you who are the minority or who are friends with them.

566
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<v Speaker 2>Is that these guys did the right thing. They went

567
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 2>and they dimed out Chief Gallagher, somebody they served with

568
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:39.159
<v Speaker 2>on team and said no, like, I can't deploy this

569
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>guy because I don't know what innocent person this dude's

570
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna pop next or execute. And that's the way you

571
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>do it. You follow the law and you uphold the

572
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 2>law you show me and the rest of us in

573
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:56.920
<v Speaker 2>terms of civil law and when it comes to military

574
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.719
<v Speaker 2>law law on complict Geneva conventions. I've had to uphold

575
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:06.480
<v Speaker 2>those myself on a dozen deployments that I've had, literally

576
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 2>four deployments. I didn't even have a uniform. I was

577
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>over there in civilian clothes, but foul the rules and

578
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 2>the regulations in law. And that's what you guys need

579
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>to do is be the example for us. Okay. And

580
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that's what the Seals did when they dimed out Eddie Gallagher, okay.

581
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's what you saw Sheriff Eric Aiden do when

582
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:33.199
<v Speaker 2>he had he had arrested Eddie Durant because he shot

583
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:36.039
<v Speaker 2>and killed the sermons. Guy's legally allowed to open his

584
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>door with a firearm. It's legal in Florida. He legally

585
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.679
<v Speaker 2>owned a fire even pointed at you. He's pointing it

586
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 2>at the floor. So if you're that damn scared, maybe

587
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:50.039
<v Speaker 2>you're in the wrong business man, you know what I mean,

588
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you're in the wrong business. It's like going it's

589
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:55.119
<v Speaker 2>like saying, yeah, I want to be an infantryman. You

590
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 2>go into combat and then first contact with the enemy,

591
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh my god, i'd you know, I'm scared.

592
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm terrified. Well then maybe you shouldn't have joined the army.

593
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the job, man, there's you know, that's

594
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>the job.

595
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 5>And to piggyback off of that, what I wanted to

596
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 5>say is, you know, when the police use deadly force,

597
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.119
<v Speaker 5>they're the ones who write the reports, collect the evidence,

598
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.400
<v Speaker 5>and that's the evidence that's given to the d DA's office.

599
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 5>This is not transparency or impartial, that's right, right you.

600
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 2>So this is something that Jenn's been saying. We can't

601
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:37.840
<v Speaker 2>investigate ourselves. And there's problem is I'm sorry, go ahead,

602
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:42.519
<v Speaker 2>my god. Harah, way to the show again, Harah, say

603
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 2>hello to everybody.

604
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:47.280
<v Speaker 4>Hello. I'm sure one of mine's gonna start scratching at

605
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 4>my door soon. And sometimes they like pound and jump

606
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 4>and pound.

607
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>She has a habit of invading the show and this

608
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>is unacceptable. Harah. Okay, you're not getting wrecked. I'm just kidding.

609
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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna get breakfast because you're to make me give

610
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 2>you breakfast anyway.

611
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:06.400
<v Speaker 4>So I always say that, you know, you know obvious

612
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, I've been in this fight for almost five years.

613
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 4>I've learned a lot. I also am very laser focused

614
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:18.039
<v Speaker 4>on they cannot investigate themselves. If I have like ten

615
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:20.480
<v Speaker 4>seconds with you and you want me to like, the

616
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:24.360
<v Speaker 4>biggest messages is that they can't investigate themselves. I didn't

617
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 4>know the level in which they get involved until this

618
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 4>happened to Justin and started looking at how they did

619
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.480
<v Speaker 4>the interviews and how they do leading questions, and how

620
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 4>they didn't ask how Justin's condition was, knowing that he

621
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:42.280
<v Speaker 4>had already been shot probably multiple times in Boston. You know,

622
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.639
<v Speaker 4>where is the really the like looking for the truth

623
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 4>and then what happens? Right? So for me, I'm like, oh,

624
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:54.360
<v Speaker 4>they put up the oneself serving narrative, they do the investigation,

625
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:58.840
<v Speaker 4>they give us the evidence that they want us to have.

626
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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying absolutely. I mean that's what we've.

627
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 4>Got videos, We've got skiff in videos. And you know what,

628
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<v Speaker 4>I also want to say, these cases like Officer John O'Keeffe,

629
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<v Speaker 4>Sander Birchmore and Justin happened in a span of twenty

630
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<v Speaker 4>four months, folks, and it's the same investigators, same da

631
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<v Speaker 4>not Okay, it's pathetic the level of investigation, like what

632
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:29.480
<v Speaker 4>they did. I don't even call it an investigation. I

633
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 4>always do with the quotes because I'm like quote investigation,

634
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 4>because I'm.

635
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Like, right, it's a fun, fun novel.

636
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.400
<v Speaker 4>That's not what they're there for. And our tax dollars

637
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.360
<v Speaker 4>are paying for this, and this is the thing. If

638
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 4>you don't hold them accountable, then you know.

639
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>What it will.

640
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.360
<v Speaker 4>It's going to happen. What else They'll be down the road.

641
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there there will be another just time, there

642
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 2>will be another Karen, there will be another Sandra, because

643
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>it's just going to take enough time to pass by

644
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.760
<v Speaker 2>one of them say oh, we could get over on

645
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.800
<v Speaker 2>this young teenage girl and nobody's gonna know. And I'll

646
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>do it off duty and then and uh or I'll

647
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>pretend I'm on duty. Whatever they're gonna do, it's gonna

648
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.599
<v Speaker 2>happen again. I just want to say something to Harrow

649
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>right here. There's a reason I didn't send you the

650
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>streamyard link. I sent it to Beatrice and Jen. You

651
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>were not You were not invited to the show by design.

652
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:31.239
<v Speaker 2>She's gotten better. I mean, she's used to like dominate

653
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 2>every aspect of all the pets in the house, now

654
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:35.840
<v Speaker 2>she's she's becoming a little bit more of an.

655
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 4>Adult, but big mistakes.

656
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:41.239
<v Speaker 2>We're done with her for the night. No stream yard

657
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>link for you. All right, let's uh, let's go back.

658
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.800
<v Speaker 2>So we have a couple of we have a couple

659
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>of stars, and then we gotta work our way down.

660
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.920
<v Speaker 2>So if we could have someone who has a great

661
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:53.800
<v Speaker 2>speaking voice.

662
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:02.360
<v Speaker 5>Why can't we get next Netflix involved to do a documentary?

663
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 4>Good question, Well, I'm not sure if that's actually even

664
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<v Speaker 4>like the status. I did talk with someone who does

665
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 4>a lot of interviews with press for you know, quotes

666
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.320
<v Speaker 4>from previous law enforcement officers, and I did get some

667
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 4>contact info. I just haven't had time to reach out

668
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:27.199
<v Speaker 4>because for me, the biggest thing has always been about

669
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:32.079
<v Speaker 4>telling the truth, having the truth told, but also unifying

670
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:36.159
<v Speaker 4>with these other groups that are representing these victims, because

671
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.239
<v Speaker 4>that's where the power is, that's where the energy is

672
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:42.360
<v Speaker 4>going to come in, and that's where we actually are like, no,

673
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.920
<v Speaker 4>we are not. You are not continuing on like this

674
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:47.079
<v Speaker 4>no matter what.

675
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying and towards this effort that

676
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>that we're about to do. On eleven thirteen, also known

677
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.440
<v Speaker 2>as November thirteen, can I get hey, man, because Jason's

678
00:40:59.480 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be.

679
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:06.360
<v Speaker 4>Get outraged, come down and join us. They're just gonna

680
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.159
<v Speaker 4>take all of us. We got no time for any

681
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 4>type of drama, for any type of whatever, because that's

682
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:16.719
<v Speaker 4>what they want. I'm like laser focused. I'm like, no drama.

683
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.920
<v Speaker 4>We are there for a mission. I don't care, Like,

684
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.079
<v Speaker 4>why don't we get into politics. I don't want to

685
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.119
<v Speaker 4>get into like we just want Morrissey and all those

686
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:31.000
<v Speaker 4>fake investigators out out yeah out.

687
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.360
<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely, And I think I'm gonna do a show.

688
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.119
<v Speaker 2>I think, I said Friday night, I'll do a show

689
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.679
<v Speaker 2>to address the drama and kind of at least give

690
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>some tools that have worked for me on dealing with

691
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 2>as I. As I coined it, maybe not very definitly

692
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:57.760
<v Speaker 2>today with Beatrice, swagger Jack and trolls. You're supposed to

693
00:41:57.840 --> 00:41:58.440
<v Speaker 2>laugh at that one.

694
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 4>Jen. Sorry, anyway, I got into like I'm sorry, I

695
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.079
<v Speaker 4>got into fight mode. I was like, I'm ready to

696
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:11.119
<v Speaker 4>be like right, yeah, I wasn't ready for I wasn't

697
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 4>ready for going on that little all.

698
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, it's tough crowd here, but Missy was pointing

699
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>out what you pointed out right here. Twenty four months

700
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 2>three murders. All three cases were covered up and at

701
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 2>least man we got to figure out how many officers

702
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 2>I know there was at least Fanning was, you know,

703
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Fanning was involved in Karen Reid.

704
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Is he can he be tied to all through three

705
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:41.320
<v Speaker 2>cases or no? Anybody know John Fanning.

706
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't really know that Fanning was the lead investigator

707
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:48.000
<v Speaker 4>for Sander Bridgmore and also for just On's case.

708
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>There so at least two of the two of the three,

709
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 2>and maybe I don't know if there's a Turtle Boy

710
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.159
<v Speaker 2>in there as well, because now you know, through the

711
00:42:57.159 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 2>better old letters, we found out that Turtle Boy was

712
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 2>wrapped up in all of this then. And I don't

713
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 2>even know if he knew. I don't think he knew

714
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.480
<v Speaker 2>until they uncovered these messages. And thank God to that lady,

715
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Michelle Littlefield, wherever you are, thank you and God bless

716
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 2>you for being so incredibly courageous to do what you

717
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:19.159
<v Speaker 2>did and bring those give that information out. Did you

718
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.639
<v Speaker 2>want to see you look like you want to say something, Jen, No,

719
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't, Okay, you just look like you want to

720
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:26.039
<v Speaker 2>say something.

721
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I didn't. I forgot what it was.

722
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, look, something very very prophetical and it is.

723
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:41.599
<v Speaker 4>I know what it was, Morrissey in the burn email account.

724
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Whoa boom? I mean, can you imagine if there's hello?

725
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Come on, can you imagine if there's more, if they

726
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:54.639
<v Speaker 2>find other Yeah, like if well, I know, like there

727
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:56.199
<v Speaker 2>has to be more. I know that's almost like a

728
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 2>dumb thing. But if they find more messages about several

729
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 2>of these cases that maybe a three letter agency has

730
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>that begins with an F and ends with an eye

731
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 2>and has the first letter of her name in the middle,

732
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:16.239
<v Speaker 2>imagine if they got some Burn direction on that. All right,

733
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:20.199
<v Speaker 2>what do we get here? Okay, here you go, Beatrice.

734
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.800
<v Speaker 5>The trooper was charged with kicking another handcuffed person in

735
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 5>the head in two I'm Sorry in twenty nineteen with

736
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 5>his steel toe boots. He wasn't criminally charged for that

737
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.199
<v Speaker 5>until after he shot Justin route.

738
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, are you aware that?

739
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:41.920
<v Speaker 4>Mentuary February twenty nineteen, the state trooper, the one who

740
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:47.159
<v Speaker 4>shot Justin five times in Brookline, he had an incident

741
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:51.280
<v Speaker 4>where he had kicked this individual who was already handcuffed,

742
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 4>and he actually took out his gun and put it

743
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.199
<v Speaker 4>to his head. So really, yeah, he now has been

744
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 4>dishonorably discharged. She was also wrapped up in the the

745
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 4>overtime scandal, so he did have some you know, little

746
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 4>chaps on the wrist. But you know the fact that

747
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 4>one year later he was still out there working, you know, like,

748
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:18.760
<v Speaker 4>that's a long time. That's another whole other conversation. I mean,

749
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 4>you could go down a rabbical about the length and

750
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 4>which they do their internal investigations, if you will, And

751
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.599
<v Speaker 4>it takes a damn lot to like really get anybody fired.

752
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.239
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, he was, he was gone.

753
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 2>And getting back to what you said earlier, I think

754
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.079
<v Speaker 2>the big issue is that our biggest, you know what,

755
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 2>our biggest impediment to justice here is that we have

756
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 2>a state agency. So they're the highest level of law

757
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:53.599
<v Speaker 2>enforcement that we have direct contact with. And you know,

758
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.599
<v Speaker 2>one of my colleagues one time said, what was saying that, uh,

759
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:01.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, oh, the FBI has oversight over law enforcement.

760
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Really they don't. There has to be a crime committed.

761
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:09.400
<v Speaker 2>There has to be some sort of information that comes

762
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:12.320
<v Speaker 2>to them that they can then funnel to the AUSA

763
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:14.440
<v Speaker 2>that they can look at and say, yeah, this is

764
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:18.440
<v Speaker 2>something actionable. Some arm of the US attorney. You know,

765
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.800
<v Speaker 2>there's something actionable that they can go They can't just say, oh, well,

766
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 2>there's been a crime committed by this and you know,

767
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:31.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's a whole Netflix documentary on the history

768
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 2>of policing in our country and they're extremely, extremely powerful.

769
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I've said on one of these recent shows, and neither

770
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 2>of you would have been in the earshot of these shows.

771
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 2>But I could have one of my three my three

772
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 2>star general, you know, when he was commander of AFSK.

773
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>As soon as he drives off base, a local Fort

774
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Walton Beach cop can can pull him over for something,

775
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and if he doesn't like something he says or does,

776
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 2>he could have that three star general out of the

777
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:02.599
<v Speaker 2>car and handcuffed in seconds. That's how powerful you're talking

778
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 2>about a three star general, do you do people understand

779
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 2>the amount of schooling And I'm not talking about college

780
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.880
<v Speaker 2>because obviously they have to have a minimum of master's

781
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 2>degree to make it past major, but to become like

782
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.800
<v Speaker 2>a lieutenant general, you know the a you know, Air

783
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 2>War College and Air Command and Staff College and a

784
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Pentagon Tour and all these different schools they have to

785
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:29.000
<v Speaker 2>go through to get to that level. And you could

786
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:32.760
<v Speaker 2>have some guy like going back to something you know

787
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Beatrice said earlier when she was talking about the continuum

788
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:40.199
<v Speaker 2>of motion, and I'm imagining Trooper Paul going, Trooper Paul,

789
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 2>can you tell me the definition of kinematics place which

790
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of has to do with the continuum of motion

791
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 2>rather than the force that acted upon it to cause

792
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it to put it in motion. And he's like, you know,

793
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't really remember it had mister Jackson, so didn't.

794
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this guy's doing accent reconstruction and doesn't know

795
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the definition of kinematics, Like, dude, are you kidding me?

796
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:11.079
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, anyway, all right before I just you know,

797
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 2>go off on a tangent here. Okay, So, Patricia, Yes,

798
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I was at the Halloween party. I'm sorry I missed

799
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 2>you and that I didn't know you unless you came

800
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.920
<v Speaker 2>up and said hello to me, and I did get

801
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:27.239
<v Speaker 2>to I also didn't speak. I did meet this gentleman

802
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:31.239
<v Speaker 2>and his wife Brenda. So what's up swinging? What's up? Holmes?

803
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.400
<v Speaker 2>It was a pleasure to meet. Yeah, so you know,

804
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 2>these guys, pleasure to meet you and your wife, asd

805
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>already saw her. Yeah, and there's somebody else here that

806
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I oh, I guess that was it. But let's get

807
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:53.599
<v Speaker 2>back to this. So this one right here, Jen, is

808
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.559
<v Speaker 2>there a oh say I'm taking Beatrice role. She's gonna

809
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:59.000
<v Speaker 2>find me after the show. Is there a gofund me

810
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:02.440
<v Speaker 2>or anything for just on family and litigation.

811
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:07.559
<v Speaker 4>I never had set up anything. I just took a

812
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:12.639
<v Speaker 4>big loan to fight them. But it's a good idea

813
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 4>to maybe at some point do that to help with

814
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.639
<v Speaker 4>the next set of litigation. And also, if Justin's case

815
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.360
<v Speaker 4>gets sent back from the United States Supreme Court, which

816
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 4>means remanded back here, that means we would have a trial,

817
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 4>and so then you have to fly in your experts

818
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 4>and our law enforcement experts from California and so anyway, yeah,

819
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:36.039
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be hepty.

820
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Beatribus.

821
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<v Speaker 5>So what was just then? Like what did he enjoy?

822
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.960
<v Speaker 4>So music? Yeah, he loves his music. Listen on just

823
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 4>on route dot com. You can go in there and

824
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.519
<v Speaker 4>see and listen to some of his music. He had

825
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:57.519
<v Speaker 4>songs like DNA terrorists and everything is backwards and he

826
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:01.760
<v Speaker 4>just really played on you know, you know, he also

827
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<v Speaker 4>like with numbers, like you know, it would be like

828
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<v Speaker 4>he would just have different meanings for different things and

829
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:10.519
<v Speaker 4>he'd be like, oh, it's all connected. And but anyway,

830
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:13.000
<v Speaker 4>you knew when he came into a room, you know,

831
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<v Speaker 4>he was charismatic. He would laugh like he like loved life,

832
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:19.519
<v Speaker 4>right he got he had a big laugh. I'd be like,

833
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:21.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, keep it down a little bit, you know,

834
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<v Speaker 4>but uh but yeah, but you know he was like

835
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<v Speaker 4>a great listener and and definitely a really good friend.

836
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<v Speaker 4>And uh, you know it's it's I don't know what

837
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 4>else can I tell you.

838
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:39.360
<v Speaker 2>He sounds like someone who would have liked beings.

839
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:42.559
<v Speaker 4>Oh so yeah, did you watch the YouTube one where

840
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:44.840
<v Speaker 4>he was this was like a fun thing he did

841
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 4>with his friends where he was going to be the

842
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:50.360
<v Speaker 4>just campaign. So he was running for president of the

843
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.360
<v Speaker 4>United States And at the end he has like a

844
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:57.159
<v Speaker 4>UFO and he's like and then he's like Jen Genesis.

845
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:01.599
<v Speaker 4>Like also, Justin would add an E to the end

846
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 4>of his name and he would say, we are just one.

847
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 4>And so that's a lot of what I move from.

848
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:12.360
<v Speaker 4>That guides me because we are just one. We are

849
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 4>like we're one world. The more we start to think

850
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.320
<v Speaker 4>that we're separate and it's just you happening over there,

851
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:17.920
<v Speaker 4>it's not.

852
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>It's not say it again. Say it again, home girl.

853
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:27.320
<v Speaker 4>We are just one, one world, one people, and that's right.

854
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what I say on our group chat that Jason

855
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:34.079
<v Speaker 2>is part of our group chat. Because what I do

856
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 2>when I put together a round table people on Twitter

857
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.239
<v Speaker 2>is I'll start a group chat to pass information, especially

858
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 2>for the roundtable, because we almost have like a Robert's

859
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:44.880
<v Speaker 2>rules of order for the round table. You'll see that

860
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday if you're watching. And so I always say

861
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.599
<v Speaker 2>one love you know, because obviously I've pulled for that

862
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.320
<v Speaker 2>from Bob Marley. But I can assure Beatriz I'll cite

863
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:58.679
<v Speaker 2>it in MLA formatting in my paper.

864
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 4>I see something in the chat here. Just so you know,

865
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.760
<v Speaker 4>we do have a petition that goes to the Massachusetts

866
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:11.719
<v Speaker 4>US Attorney's Office, Joshua Levy. You can just go on

867
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:14.599
<v Speaker 4>to just Donroote dot com and you'll have like it

868
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:17.800
<v Speaker 4>will pop up to sign a petition. So that's something

869
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 4>that you can do and share with everyone, because I

870
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:25.880
<v Speaker 4>think the more that we grand slam that office, the

871
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.840
<v Speaker 4>more they know that people care and are like no,

872
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:33.360
<v Speaker 4>then you know, you know, someone might blink an eye

873
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:35.320
<v Speaker 4>and be like, hey, what's going on?

874
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.559
<v Speaker 2>You know what Jens Cadence is a little bit like

875
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>content creator Massachusetts lawyer Andrew D. Myers the way he speaks.

876
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.440
<v Speaker 2>He has a really good show. He covers law and

877
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:50.440
<v Speaker 2>obviously he's covering Karen Reid, among other cases. Not only

878
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Karen Reid, he and a young lady named Laney law

879
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:56.039
<v Speaker 2>and Andrew D. Myers, Your Cadence is a lot like him.

880
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Maybe should go to law school, Maybe I should.

881
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:00.559
<v Speaker 4>You know what. And sometimes I'm like one time I

882
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:02.960
<v Speaker 4>was telling my neighbor and I like start to get

883
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:05.360
<v Speaker 4>into this whole thing about summary judgment and breaking it

884
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.119
<v Speaker 4>all down, and then I just realized when I was

885
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:08.559
<v Speaker 4>sitting there, I was like, she might just want me

886
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 4>to be quiet at this point. And then I stopped

887
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.480
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, are you okay? Like am I Like

888
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:18.280
<v Speaker 4>have I lost you? And She's like no, but you

889
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 4>should become a lawyer. And I'm like, well, you know what.

890
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.320
<v Speaker 4>I feel like, you know, with the time that we

891
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:28.360
<v Speaker 4>have on this planet, like this is very this is

892
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.280
<v Speaker 4>my life, this is my passion. And I mean I

893
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 4>want independent investigations across the country. I mean, when this

894
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:39.800
<v Speaker 4>sort of stuff happens, it's just it's shocking that that

895
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:43.840
<v Speaker 4>it even is this way. I mean, that's what I want.

896
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.960
<v Speaker 4>So it's like if I went to law school. I'm

897
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.920
<v Speaker 4>not sure if that's going to be, you know, but

898
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:51.719
<v Speaker 4>I do feel like a lawyer at this point. I mean,

899
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.000
<v Speaker 4>it's like stuff I didn't want to just like me,

900
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.760
<v Speaker 4>I learned about autopsies. I learned about I mean, you know,

901
00:53:58.800 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 4>it just goes on and on.

902
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Now you get asked Melanie Little. You know, I'm sorry.

903
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I didn't mean interrupt. I was gonna say, we could

904
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.840
<v Speaker 2>ask Melanie Little for a conference of our Twitter law

905
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 2>degree and you and myself we can Twitter, okay, all right?

906
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh yes? Uh so Jason. Yeah. The prep work for

907
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:23.880
<v Speaker 2>me to come to the party, I was in the

908
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 2>hands of Reality Check, who told me, you know, do this,

909
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:29.639
<v Speaker 2>this person's there, that person's there, Hey, DJ go Live,

910
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:33.079
<v Speaker 2>you know this kind of stuff. And so I didn't

911
00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:35.639
<v Speaker 2>know that you. I I wanted to meet you, but

912
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I did not know that you were there in costumes,

913
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:41.280
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't recognize you. But there's a couple of

914
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:44.360
<v Speaker 2>things that I didn't do. The intro that I did

915
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.440
<v Speaker 2>for my guests and my co host tonight, I would

916
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:51.079
<v Speaker 2>have also done for Turtle Boy by just grabbing the

917
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:53.039
<v Speaker 2>microphone from that guy at the front.

918
00:54:54.000 --> 00:55:05.280
<v Speaker 3>And right in turtle, Hey canna get a man?

919
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:09.000
<v Speaker 2>So you know I could have done that, but you know,

920
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:12.800
<v Speaker 2>unfortunately I didn't think. So next year, right, because I'll

921
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.039
<v Speaker 2>be back, but I expect to be back up there

922
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.639
<v Speaker 2>in January or something, back to Massachusetts, so maybe I'll

923
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:21.920
<v Speaker 2>get to see some of you guys. Then if you

924
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:25.159
<v Speaker 2>guys want to get together and have a meal of food,

925
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>we can have a meal of food somewhere. I'll come

926
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:35.039
<v Speaker 2>there in January. Okay, it's a day day. All right,

927
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:40.519
<v Speaker 2>let's see what else we got here. This is what

928
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying right here. They made a big mistake. Man.

929
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I usually do not curse on this channel, but I'm

930
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:53.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna conjure my best Jack Nicholson, you with the raw marine.

931
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, this is what the sad thing is that

932
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:03.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's a stigma around mental illness. And it's

933
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.719
<v Speaker 4>like I was reading Jason's comments in here and that

934
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.480
<v Speaker 4>we need to kind of reframe the narrative. But it's like,

935
00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:15.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, he he suffered from mental illness. They like

936
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:19.760
<v Speaker 4>thought he was freaking nobody. He thought they treated you know,

937
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.880
<v Speaker 4>they just they took it upon themselves to be judged

938
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:25.360
<v Speaker 4>or an executor. But this is the thing, that's what

939
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:30.679
<v Speaker 4>I always say. I'm like, oh guess what, No, there's

940
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:37.079
<v Speaker 4>people often cared about Justin and uh yeah, definitely.

941
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's very much. It's a purp and threat down,

942
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:47.679
<v Speaker 2>and it's they're acting kind of like a direction direct action.

943
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, we talked about earlier. There's a few units

944
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 2>in the military that do counter terrorism direct action missions.

945
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:00.840
<v Speaker 2>One of those, you know, is like Team six, and

946
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:02.920
<v Speaker 2>then there's another army unit that we don't say the

947
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:06.039
<v Speaker 2>name of the army unit. And so that's kind of

948
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:09.039
<v Speaker 2>like the way that they were treating Justin's a threat,

949
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:12.559
<v Speaker 2>which is really really odd given that they had already

950
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.320
<v Speaker 2>done the pit maneuver. But I want to let my

951
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.159
<v Speaker 2>co host get in here, and then I'm going to

952
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:19.639
<v Speaker 2>babble some more, and and I want to go through

953
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:24.079
<v Speaker 2>certain points that maybe this could have been avoided, and

954
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:26.400
<v Speaker 2>obviously it might have all maybe all started with the

955
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:28.519
<v Speaker 2>guard at the Brigham and Women's But let me let

956
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 2>my co host get in here. Men.

957
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:34.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, I had a couple of thoughts. So earlier we

958
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.840
<v Speaker 5>were talking about, you know, how we've found out through

959
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.960
<v Speaker 5>all this, all this movement and all these things that

960
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:44.519
<v Speaker 5>have been happening in our state that you know, they

961
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:49.320
<v Speaker 5>did a six month investigation into rubber duckies, and so

962
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 5>it makes you feel like this. There are certain times

963
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.239
<v Speaker 5>that this is intentional and other times that you know,

964
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.639
<v Speaker 5>like it. One thing would be if it's incompetence, okay,

965
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:03.920
<v Speaker 5>that that. But when they've proven to us and can

966
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:07.519
<v Speaker 5>write a very long report and investigate rubber duckies for

967
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 5>six months, it feels intentional. And that's that's what we

968
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 5>don't want. You know, it's one thing if they need

969
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.679
<v Speaker 5>additional training. It's one thing if you're doing things on purpose.

970
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's that quote selective prosecution? Yeah yeah, yeah, it's

971
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 2>very much.

972
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.679
<v Speaker 4>For somebody like my loved one was murdered and you

973
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:34.559
<v Speaker 4>actually spent more time on a freaking rubber ducky. Shame

974
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:39.880
<v Speaker 4>on all of them, Shame on all of them.

975
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That's the thing is that it's, uh, this is

976
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:47.599
<v Speaker 2>a very it's very targeted when they decide to investigate,

977
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:50.519
<v Speaker 2>when to prosecute, and it's very The thing what they

978
00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:53.760
<v Speaker 2>don't realize is it makes it very transparent and obvious.

979
00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:55.920
<v Speaker 2>So let's say you have people that are not as

980
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:58.800
<v Speaker 2>sharp as gen and not as sharp as Beatrice, and

981
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:00.920
<v Speaker 2>not as sharp as me. And they're a little bit

982
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:04.480
<v Speaker 2>of a mead heead and a little thick headed. Anybody

983
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:08.039
<v Speaker 2>can see. Uh, that's being honest and transparent about this.

984
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:13.639
<v Speaker 2>What's what, what's what's happened? So you know that that's

985
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 2>the thing. It's quite obvious what they're doing. And that's

986
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:19.039
<v Speaker 2>the problem is we just don't have an agency to

987
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:21.960
<v Speaker 2>go to unless and I'm going to make an assumption

988
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:23.519
<v Speaker 2>here and this was going to be my next question,

989
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:26.960
<v Speaker 2>had you had you written to Joshua Levy?

990
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:34.559
<v Speaker 4>I I am making contact, hopefully through my lawyer, but

991
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:38.000
<v Speaker 4>it's just been the letters from the petition that's gone

992
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:41.079
<v Speaker 4>to him in his office. I worked a long time, Hey,

993
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 4>I wasted along. I wasted a lot of time working

994
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 4>on the Attorney General and the governor and the age.

995
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:51.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean the Attorney General. Yeah, the AG.

996
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I wasted a lot not knowing they didn't care.

997
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:57.239
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know they you know it's it's they damned

998
00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:59.719
<v Speaker 4>if they do, and damn if they don't. Right, So

999
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.559
<v Speaker 4>they took the path of least resistance because they have

1000
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 4>a political aspiration. I mean, that's what I've chalked up

1001
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:09.119
<v Speaker 4>to so I wasted a lot of time with them.

1002
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:12.159
<v Speaker 4>Now I know they're not going to do squat ditterly

1003
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:16.760
<v Speaker 4>dodo of anything when it comes to this. So it's

1004
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:20.840
<v Speaker 4>really the US Attorney's office that is where we need

1005
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 4>to go.

1006
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:28.639
<v Speaker 2>But why get into the business of governance if you

1007
01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:31.519
<v Speaker 2>are afraid to act on that? And if you're saying,

1008
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, if I take on BPD here or if

1009
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I take on mass State police, then I'm not going

1010
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:40.719
<v Speaker 2>to get any votes. Their union is going to tell

1011
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:44.039
<v Speaker 2>all of their officers and every all of their families

1012
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:47.000
<v Speaker 2>to vote against me. Then why get into governance? Why

1013
01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:50.920
<v Speaker 2>do something and be completely dishonest? It doesn't it doesn't

1014
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:51.840
<v Speaker 2>make any sense to me.

1015
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I have to tell you DJ So. Andrea Campbell

1016
01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:59.920
<v Speaker 4>is our current attorney general. She was also Justin's city

1017
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:03.119
<v Speaker 4>counselor because he lived in Mattapan. Okay, So, I had

1018
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:07.519
<v Speaker 4>several conversations with her as a sister. Okay, back when

1019
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:10.119
<v Speaker 4>she was a city councilor, before she became Attorney general.

1020
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:12.320
<v Speaker 4>I had a lot of hope when she got into

1021
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 4>office that she'd be doing some things, you know, you

1022
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:18.880
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, And Uh, that came up to

1023
01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:22.800
<v Speaker 4>a zero. Okay. So, and I just want to remind you,

1024
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:28.639
<v Speaker 4>like her brother died in custody under suspicious circumstances, and

1025
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:32.440
<v Speaker 4>so she's a family member who lost someone to in

1026
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:35.480
<v Speaker 4>that type of a situation. So she like directly knows.

1027
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:40.000
<v Speaker 4>So it's deeply like concerning and offensive to me because

1028
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:43.320
<v Speaker 4>she's now the Attorney General. And I had hope, you know,

1029
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:45.760
<v Speaker 4>and then when I realized she just wanted to, you know,

1030
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:47.840
<v Speaker 4>paw me off on her top staff to meet with

1031
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:50.679
<v Speaker 4>where I'm like, well, freaking more healing met with us

1032
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:52.960
<v Speaker 4>when she was ag like in person, and you can't

1033
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 4>show that same respect. But when I left the AG's

1034
01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:59.360
<v Speaker 4>office the last time with her top people, I said, look,

1035
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.119
<v Speaker 4>you're doing all that's like changing things and law enforcement,

1036
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:04.239
<v Speaker 4>but you're only talking to law enforcement. You need to

1037
01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:08.000
<v Speaker 4>start talking to the families what they experienced and what

1038
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:11.920
<v Speaker 4>the process was like and what happened, because our viewpoint

1039
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:18.599
<v Speaker 4>is valuable in the outview of change. No, you think

1040
01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:20.320
<v Speaker 4>they did that, they didn't do anything.

1041
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 2>It's really interesting when you look at people's value systems

1042
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:30.559
<v Speaker 2>and you find that they're out of alignment with what

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01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:35.199
<v Speaker 2>the charge of the position demands and dictates, and perhaps

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01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.880
<v Speaker 2>even a sworn oath that would have been attached to

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01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:42.679
<v Speaker 2>that position. And it's really interesting when you see that

1046
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:46.280
<v Speaker 2>people are willing to mortgage that. But you see that

1047
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:53.000
<v Speaker 2>power is so intoxicating. It's like a drug. It's like

1048
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:58.199
<v Speaker 2>the way that you desire people, you know, desire alcohol

1049
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:01.159
<v Speaker 2>or love. It's that type of the adulation.

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01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:01.599
<v Speaker 5>You know.

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01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:05.239
<v Speaker 2>You see how powerful that that that I'm going to

1052
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:09.559
<v Speaker 2>use it quote unquotes drug is and it'll cause people

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01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to do things that and and perhaps even see a

1054
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:16.920
<v Speaker 2>shift or change in character as a result of that

1055
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:21.119
<v Speaker 2>power and the desire for more. People were one person

1056
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:25.760
<v Speaker 2>or they espoused to be a certain person, and then

1057
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:28.320
<v Speaker 2>they were willing to mortgage that and become a different

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01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:34.400
<v Speaker 2>person because of the expediency, uh, the political expediency or

1059
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:37.079
<v Speaker 2>or something of that nature. And I'm really sorry that

1060
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.079
<v Speaker 2>you were the victim of that, perhaps you know where

1061
01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:43.440
<v Speaker 2>you know I've said before turtle Boy is a young

1062
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:48.280
<v Speaker 2>man of uncommon valor in my experience, and maybe Joshua

1063
01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Levy is a older gentleman also of uncommon valor, and

1064
01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I hope that he and I believe he is, and

1065
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:04.800
<v Speaker 2>perhaps you will find resonance and send him. Why didn't

1066
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:06.920
<v Speaker 2>mean to drop the mic there? But anyway, all right,

1067
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:07.920
<v Speaker 2>let me we.

1068
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Gotta keep Beatrice awake here. What's going on. I'm awake.

1069
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:12.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm awake.

1070
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:14.519
<v Speaker 2>She's ditching your voice.

1071
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:16.960
<v Speaker 4>We gotta hear your voice every so often.

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01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:21.360
<v Speaker 2>You're telling me. I mean, come on, let me say

1073
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:26.679
<v Speaker 2>one thing. So all right, So, Jason, my my plan

1074
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:28.960
<v Speaker 2>is I would have if I would have done it

1075
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.000
<v Speaker 2>like in the middle of the event, like not like

1076
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:33.400
<v Speaker 2>at the beginning. But anyway, I didn't know that was you,

1077
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.800
<v Speaker 2>because if that was you who was up front, I

1078
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:39.360
<v Speaker 2>don't remember. Show me what your costume looked like. Then

1079
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:41.039
<v Speaker 2>you and I spoke because you told me I looked

1080
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:44.280
<v Speaker 2>like Paul O'Keeffe because there was somebody that had the

1081
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 2>microphone that was doing the DJ stuff no no pun

1082
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.679
<v Speaker 2>intended dj uh And he told me that I looked

1083
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:54.519
<v Speaker 2>like paul O'Keefe and I was like, I'm not paul

1084
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:59.239
<v Speaker 2>o'keef man or paul O Grift whatever turtle work as.

1085
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:04.960
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, you are quickly rising on my list of

1086
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.800
<v Speaker 2>favorite activists. You remind me of my own sister. We

1087
01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:10.000
<v Speaker 2>all deserve a sister like you. Yeah, I wish I

1088
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.960
<v Speaker 2>had a sister like you.

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01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.519
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Like I just say to myself, I

1090
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:19.440
<v Speaker 4>could have never, in a million years ever imagine this happening.

1091
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:23.559
<v Speaker 4>And this happened like literally weeks before COVID, so I

1092
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:25.559
<v Speaker 4>was like really in shock. I mean, but what I

1093
01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:31.920
<v Speaker 4>can say is this is profoundly life changing and it's

1094
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:36.079
<v Speaker 4>it awoke something in me, and I mean, I just

1095
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:37.880
<v Speaker 4>don't want to be here if I'm not doing this

1096
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:42.039
<v Speaker 4>type of work because it's so important. And I have

1097
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.119
<v Speaker 4>to tell you, it's also very healing for me to

1098
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.639
<v Speaker 4>meet all these great people out at Standouts because you

1099
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:52.400
<v Speaker 4>just connect with humanity again. You connect with people who care,

1100
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:57.159
<v Speaker 4>and and it's that it's that like it's it's you know,

1101
01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:58.280
<v Speaker 4>it's the collective.

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01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.519
<v Speaker 2>You guys are very inspiring. That's why I told Beatrice

1103
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I want to come back as soon as possible. And

1104
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:08.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, I gotta start looking at my calendar

1105
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:10.840
<v Speaker 2>for how soon I can come back, and I can

1106
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:12.880
<v Speaker 2>just tie it in because I I go home to

1107
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:16.599
<v Speaker 2>my hometown in the Hudson. I usually come to Massachusetts

1108
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:19.639
<v Speaker 2>once a year for Dean and my teammates from Dean

1109
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:22.199
<v Speaker 2>and then twice a year to New York. I'm from

1110
01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:25.239
<v Speaker 2>the the Hudson Valley, not far away from where you

1111
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:31.599
<v Speaker 2>guys live, and and I uh, I'm so now I'm like, okay,

1112
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:34.199
<v Speaker 2>looking at it. When's the soonest I can come back?

1113
01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:37.519
<v Speaker 2>And I said, well, December January. So I'll try to

1114
01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:42.119
<v Speaker 2>arrange something like, uh where I can be inspired with

1115
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:44.480
<v Speaker 2>you guys and come and have a meal, a meal

1116
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:46.880
<v Speaker 2>of food. That's all I'm trying to do. I'm gonna

1117
01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:48.960
<v Speaker 2>do turtleboar right now. That's all I was trying to

1118
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:52.239
<v Speaker 2>do is have a meal of food. That's it. We

1119
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:55.360
<v Speaker 2>can see some salad over here and see if McCarthy's

1120
01:06:56.360 --> 01:07:03.840
<v Speaker 2>so anyway, let me, uh interest.

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01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:04.679
<v Speaker 4>What am I doing now?

1122
01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:05.639
<v Speaker 5>Am I asking questions?

1123
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:06.719
<v Speaker 4>Am I reading the chat?

1124
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 2>You're reading.

1125
01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:12.320
<v Speaker 5>Like taking a nap?

1126
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:18.159
<v Speaker 2>I just bumped my screen. I'm gonna go fix it.

1127
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Hang on, go ahead, all right.

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01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:26.199
<v Speaker 5>I just want all the supporters to know I think

1129
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.840
<v Speaker 5>you are all amazing. The support for the Root family

1130
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:37.800
<v Speaker 5>is long overdue because truth matters. Amen, Amen, DJ, come

1131
01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:40.480
<v Speaker 5>on a real man, yeah.

1132
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Brand yeah uh. And now I want to say to

1133
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:48.159
<v Speaker 2>my man here this one right here, ten points for DJ,

1134
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:54.400
<v Speaker 2>your chesty Polar. Okay, so, Chesty Polar is a famous

1135
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:58.719
<v Speaker 2>former Marine Corps general, and then I believe his son

1136
01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Lou also became a Marine Corps general. So you correct

1137
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:05.800
<v Speaker 2>me on that if I'm wrong, Jason, But thank you

1138
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:09.360
<v Speaker 2>very much for putting me in any sentence that has

1139
01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:12.719
<v Speaker 2>to do with like Chesty Puller or mad dog Madness

1140
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:16.840
<v Speaker 2>or any of those guys or taughty Franks. So anyway, uh,

1141
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:27.000
<v Speaker 2>let's see. Okay, So, and hey, what's up, punk girl? Christina? Welcome, Welcome,

1142
01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Welcome Christina throughout a cryptic tweet. Our response, I was

1143
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:34.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, I didn't know exactly what it meant,

1144
01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:38.279
<v Speaker 2>and so and DM, I'm like, so, what exactly does

1145
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:41.199
<v Speaker 2>this mean? And she's like yeah, but she now, so

1146
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:43.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I still don't know what it means. So Christina,

1147
01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 2>tell me what that tweet meant because I still don't

1148
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:48.800
<v Speaker 2>get it. But but it was cool whatever it was.

1149
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:54.479
<v Speaker 2>I was inspired at like five o'clock in the morning. Anyway, Um, okay,

1150
01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:56.720
<v Speaker 2>oh look at this, I'm getting a I'm getting a

1151
01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:04.239
<v Speaker 2>hand salute from my man. So what like what if

1152
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:07.720
<v Speaker 2>that unfolded? Let's say we start off at Brigham and

1153
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Women's and that happens, and they call it in to

1154
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:13.039
<v Speaker 2>the command center and now we're off on something of

1155
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:18.000
<v Speaker 2>a car chase because they legitimately somebody legitimately thought he

1156
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:21.600
<v Speaker 2>was armed. Where do you think we go from there?

1157
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:25.000
<v Speaker 2>That this could have had a different outcome? What would

1158
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:30.560
<v Speaker 2>you like to have seen those actions be? Well?

1159
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:34.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, I know that Boston is very

1160
01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:38.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, a lot of people you know are stuck

1161
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:44.000
<v Speaker 4>on you know, he pulled out somethin on an officer, yes,

1162
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:47.640
<v Speaker 4>but it's also looks like a frickin toy and is

1163
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:50.560
<v Speaker 4>huge and clear and with chimney. I mean, you know,

1164
01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:55.079
<v Speaker 4>I think an officer of twenty years with no what

1165
01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:58.359
<v Speaker 4>that looks like. And even if it was something that

1166
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:01.680
<v Speaker 4>happened fast, I also so know that that officer was

1167
01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:06.960
<v Speaker 4>justin was at his driver's side window prior to that sidewalk,

1168
01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:10.079
<v Speaker 4>and he had it in his hand. So you know,

1169
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:13.239
<v Speaker 4>if you think someone's really armed and danger with the gun,

1170
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:16.560
<v Speaker 4>you don't like go up to them like that. At

1171
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:18.960
<v Speaker 4>least I wouldn't think you do. I actually think if

1172
01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.239
<v Speaker 4>my brother really was armed that day, he'd still be alive.

1173
01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:25.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's what's crazy about it. It's like did

1174
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:27.359
<v Speaker 4>those officers at any moment That one actually was on

1175
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:29.199
<v Speaker 4>the ground with Justin too, so I don't know what

1176
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:32.279
<v Speaker 4>he was, you know, But no matter which way you

1177
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:36.479
<v Speaker 4>slice and dice Boston, when you get to Brookline and

1178
01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:39.840
<v Speaker 4>you know that he has been shot, and you know

1179
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:43.600
<v Speaker 4>that there was a massive car accident with wheels off,

1180
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:47.319
<v Speaker 4>and you see someone covered in blood with someone there

1181
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:53.079
<v Speaker 4>trying to aid him, you know, that's an execution what

1182
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:55.279
<v Speaker 4>they did to Justin. They came up and they just

1183
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:59.399
<v Speaker 4>went boom, just unloaded. And I'm gonna say this again,

1184
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:02.760
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I'm a eating record. But even for

1185
01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:05.560
<v Speaker 4>people who like want to have all different types of

1186
01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:09.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, ideas and thought processes about it, I just say,

1187
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:14.840
<v Speaker 4>think to yourself, is that okay? That the response the

1188
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.640
<v Speaker 4>excessive force of that response of thirty one bullets at

1189
01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:21.319
<v Speaker 4>a very public parking lot where my friends shop, my

1190
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:25.119
<v Speaker 4>friend's shop with their kids, bullet went across the parking lot.

1191
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:28.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we can't let that type of excessive force

1192
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:31.439
<v Speaker 4>go unchecked, right.

1193
01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I agree? I agree.

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01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:35.199
<v Speaker 4>You go to a hospital, I expect a next level

1195
01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:37.800
<v Speaker 4>of especially with a lot of you know, mental health

1196
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:39.760
<v Speaker 4>centers right there, and two of them which by the way,

1197
01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:42.880
<v Speaker 4>are residential, so that means they live there, they walk

1198
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:46.439
<v Speaker 4>around there. There needs to be I mean that was

1199
01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:48.960
<v Speaker 4>the shocking park to me is that I thought, God,

1200
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:51.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, my brother was at a hospital and needed

1201
01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:56.960
<v Speaker 4>to be hospitalized. He he showed clear signs of you know, paranoia, delusional,

1202
01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:00.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, delusional. I mean he's telling that officer, I'm

1203
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.840
<v Speaker 4>with law enforcement. I'm with law enforcement. And by the way,

1204
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:07.079
<v Speaker 4>you can carry in Massachusetts. So I mean, where was

1205
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:10.479
<v Speaker 4>the where was the conversation, Where was the hey, let

1206
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:13.760
<v Speaker 4>me see your license to carry or you you know,

1207
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:16.640
<v Speaker 4>like you know.

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01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So one of the things they showed on the video,

1209
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:24.560
<v Speaker 2>they showed what looked like a pellet gun, a black

1210
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:28.600
<v Speaker 2>what looked like a rep you know, a representation or

1211
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:32.399
<v Speaker 2>a replica nine mil pellet gun. Was that also with Justin?

1212
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.239
<v Speaker 2>I hope to god they didn't plant that there, did they.

1213
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:41.319
<v Speaker 4>I believe that to be Justin's so that you know.

1214
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:43.279
<v Speaker 4>This is the other thing too, that really got me

1215
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:46.800
<v Speaker 4>when this all happened. It's like a clear plastic paintball

1216
01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:49.600
<v Speaker 4>gun with a chimney is not a replica. There's nothing

1217
01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:52.840
<v Speaker 4>that that's not a replica. Yes, that BB gun of

1218
01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:56.239
<v Speaker 4>course it did. But I know it was never in

1219
01:12:56.279 --> 01:13:00.199
<v Speaker 4>his hands, so oh it was not No, it was

1220
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:01.159
<v Speaker 4>never in his hands.

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01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:03.520
<v Speaker 2>It was just in the car, okay, because that's what

1222
01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:05.000
<v Speaker 2>they came.

1223
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:07.039
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't in the car. It wasn't in the car.

1224
01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:09.680
<v Speaker 4>He's on his body. If you see the state trooper

1225
01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:11.680
<v Speaker 4>with it in his hands, and he tossed it into

1226
01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:13.600
<v Speaker 4>the mulch at random so that it would look like

1227
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:16.159
<v Speaker 4>he had this gun out that looked like a gun,

1228
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.920
<v Speaker 4>and it's it's just not true. You know, I have

1229
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:25.119
<v Speaker 4>to question everything about the footage. I questioned at all. Absolutely,

1230
01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:29.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what doctoring has been done. You know,

1231
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:32.319
<v Speaker 4>anything now at this point is possible.

1232
01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, it was. It was clear when that one guy says, hey, man,

1233
01:13:37.199 --> 01:13:40.199
<v Speaker 2>don't say anything. Don't say anything, you know, because you know,

1234
01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:43.640
<v Speaker 2>because he clearly he he knows like, okay, we've screwed

1235
01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:46.720
<v Speaker 2>up here and everything. This is going to go to court,

1236
01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:49.600
<v Speaker 2>and so don't say anything, you know, Yeah, keep your

1237
01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:51.920
<v Speaker 2>camera and don't say anything. And other guys like kind

1238
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:54.800
<v Speaker 2>of turn my camera off. And so everybody's trying to

1239
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.439
<v Speaker 2>make sure they follow their p's and q's because they

1240
01:13:57.479 --> 01:13:59.760
<v Speaker 2>know they've screwed up at that point, So yeah, that

1241
01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:00.840
<v Speaker 2>was and checking.

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01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:04.079
<v Speaker 5>Each other out to make sure they're okay. Justin didn't

1243
01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:07.680
<v Speaker 5>pose a threat at that point, and they're looking around like,

1244
01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:11.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, theatrics, like you know you okay, you have

1245
01:14:11.079 --> 01:14:13.079
<v Speaker 5>any injuries? Really?

1246
01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:15.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like I think I might know if my

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<v Speaker 4>leg was bleeding. Yeah, I got shot in the leg,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way. I mean, yeah, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe the guy that has like, you know, fifteen

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01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:29.319
<v Speaker 2>holes him on the ground needs medical attention, but do

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01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:32.720
<v Speaker 2>everybody else is okay? That's not screaming, so because it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty you know when you get not that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>shot before. I've had a lot of Army and Marine

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01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Corps friends think I was an air guy, so I

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01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:45.119
<v Speaker 2>was flying, so we got shot at but never airplane

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01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:47.520
<v Speaker 2>was never hit when and I certainly never been hit,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've never I don't know what it feels like,

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<v Speaker 2>but people say it feels like hot metal inside your body.

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<v Speaker 2>You're don't know it big time, And I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Just gonna say too that I like to everyone to

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<v Speaker 4>know that no one as far as the responding Boston

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<v Speaker 4>police officers, because they were behind Justin and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>even run a plate, okay, nobody could run a plate

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<v Speaker 4>at any time, which would have been very informative because

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<v Speaker 4>they knew Justin Okay, so that they would have known

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<v Speaker 4>that he was mentally ill because they've responded to the

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<v Speaker 4>best team several times in Boston before. And Justin also

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<v Speaker 4>too had a lot of PTSD, like you know, takedowns

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<v Speaker 4>that were very violent, being gags you know, aren't being broken.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, it's not like, you know, guns don't

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<v Speaker 4>make things better, you know, like you don't come into

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<v Speaker 4>a situation. It's if you come into a situation like that,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, so you're probably be using a gun. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there needs to be that sort of person, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>de escalate, have a conversation. But none of them knew

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<v Speaker 4>until nine thirty two am that someone had been shot

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<v Speaker 4>at Brigham And I think it's important that everybration of

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<v Speaker 4>two proptor yeah, I'm a proctor. Yeah. He called my

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<v Speaker 4>stepmother and said that my brother had shot someone at

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<v Speaker 4>the hospital and that he produced the gun again in

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<v Speaker 4>Brookline and wouldn't put it down and so they had

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<v Speaker 4>to shoot him. Yeah. Lies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in a lot of situations that firearms can escalate things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can just tell you I've trained it a

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01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:29.039
<v Speaker 2>bunch of different BJJA academies in the decade after I

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01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:31.479
<v Speaker 2>retired from the Air Force, and one of them was

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<v Speaker 2>owned by police officer, and most of them were Gracy

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01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:38.479
<v Speaker 2>academies save for the academy I started at in Brazil,

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01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:41.840
<v Speaker 2>but the rest of them have been Graci Baja, Helson, Gracy,

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01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Gracie Brothers, blah blah blah blah blah. Well the one

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<v Speaker 2>that where the law enforcement officer owned Helson Gracie Academy

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<v Speaker 2>in Cleveland. All a lot of law enforcement officers trained there.

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<v Speaker 2>And what they told me without me asking them, Hey hoes,

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01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:01.039
<v Speaker 2>this affect your career, Like you don't really asked those question.

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01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:03.840
<v Speaker 2>They'd say, Man, a lot of us, like we have

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01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:06.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot less problems where we feel like we have

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01:17:06.199 --> 01:17:10.680
<v Speaker 2>to draw down because we can handle a situation physically

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<v Speaker 2>and disarm somebody safely without having to use deadly or

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<v Speaker 2>excessive force, like when you see guys billy clubbing somebody

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01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:24.760
<v Speaker 2>or you know, tasing, because these guys could execute a

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<v Speaker 2>takedown and easily subdue somebody to the point where they

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01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:33.079
<v Speaker 2>could get handcuffs on them. You know, it kills me

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<v Speaker 2>every time I see that, Eric, what's the young man

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01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 2>from Brooklyn? And there's a police officer on his back

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01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and he has him in a rear naked choke and

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01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:45.119
<v Speaker 2>the kids saying I can't is it? Eric Garner said

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<v Speaker 2>his name? He's saying I can't breathe?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well yeah he said he couldn't breathe them we and.

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<v Speaker 2>He just choked him to death, killed him. I'm like,

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01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:57.119
<v Speaker 2>what are you? I mean, the whole thing with jiu

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<v Speaker 2>jitsu is when the person is tapping, you release pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Eric Garner, Statna and thank you Ann. Yes,

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01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:09.560
<v Speaker 2>you release pressure on that person's neck and then you

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01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:12.960
<v Speaker 2>handcuff the guy. If if in fact that guy is

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01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:16.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, still a threat. I don't know the whole story,

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01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:18.520
<v Speaker 2>and I really don't care, but you choke the guy

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01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:23.279
<v Speaker 2>to death. You don't belong even applying that choke. If

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01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:26.439
<v Speaker 2>you don't know how to do it safely and then

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01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:31.720
<v Speaker 2>release pressure, It's it's really bizarre anyway, all right. One

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01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:33.239
<v Speaker 2>thing I want to say to everybody, if you are

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01:18:33.239 --> 01:18:36.199
<v Speaker 2>watching this right now, if you would do a kind

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01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:40.479
<v Speaker 2>favor to me and my co host Beatrice, would you

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01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:44.640
<v Speaker 2>smash the like button and the subscribe button for calling

1324
01:18:44.680 --> 01:18:49.119
<v Speaker 2>all beings. We would greatly appreciate that. And even you, Christina,

1325
01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:53.039
<v Speaker 2>get up there on YouTube and subscribe Holmes. So she's

1326
01:18:53.079 --> 01:18:55.600
<v Speaker 2>probably like, look, I'm busy right now, I'm using my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like all right, whatever, So.

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<v Speaker 4>Like button smash that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like button do, Like Melanie Little, I'm gonna have to

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01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:08.640
<v Speaker 2>turn their condition rop if you don't. If you subscribe.

1331
01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:10.439
<v Speaker 2>She's so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I want to see another when you talk about

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01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:16.039
<v Speaker 4>that I can't breathe. That's another reason why it's so

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01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:18.840
<v Speaker 4>important that we pass the Medical Civil Rights Act, just

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01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:21.159
<v Speaker 4>so you know, I mean, because even if someone says

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01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:24.520
<v Speaker 4>I can't breathe, that means you need to call EMS

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<v Speaker 4>and you stop. But you don't. And you know there's

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<v Speaker 4>only a duty, okay, but if it's the law, you

1339
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:34.319
<v Speaker 4>got to do it, and then take that law.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't say it again. Gots to do it, girlfriends

1341
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:38.960
<v Speaker 2>to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, come on, I'm just saying. I mean they

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01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:43.880
<v Speaker 4>passed it in Connecticut. I mean, it really needs to

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01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:44.880
<v Speaker 4>be passed in every state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean this is just this is part

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01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:50.840
<v Speaker 2>of the job, man. I mean, it's just it's a

1347
01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:55.640
<v Speaker 2>dangerous job. But a lot of people will Some people

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01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:58.920
<v Speaker 2>will sign up for it because they like having power,

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01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:04.640
<v Speaker 2>and that is we talked about power earlier, and there's

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01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:09.079
<v Speaker 2>other contexts that that we can use this same analogy

1351
01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:13.039
<v Speaker 2>that people like the feeling of power and influence, and

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01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:16.399
<v Speaker 2>you are extremely powerful as a police officer, and you

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01:20:16.520 --> 01:20:18.920
<v Speaker 2>need to be very I've actually taken the police test

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<v Speaker 2>UH at an academy. Before I elected not to enter

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01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the academy. I was a law enforcement major at Dean.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am in no way placing myself in their category.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not a law enforcement officer, never been. I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not part of their brotherhood. I respect those guys,

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01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:41.000
<v Speaker 2>but I also need to hold them accountable everything. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a balance, you know, in everything. You know, you have

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01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:47.319
<v Speaker 2>to be very forceful sometimes when you when you're taking

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01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:51.560
<v Speaker 2>down a suspect because sometimes they'll some people mistake kindness

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01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:54.840
<v Speaker 2>for weakness, you know, and you have to say, Okay,

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01:20:55.079 --> 01:20:57.119
<v Speaker 2>you might think I'm weak, I'm gonna show you that

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01:20:57.199 --> 01:20:59.680
<v Speaker 2>though I'm kind, I can put it on you if

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01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I have to. I don't want to put it on you,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you make me put it on you, then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do that. So anyway, Oh there it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, thank you, Thank you, Christina. I appreciate it. Homegirl.

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<v Speaker 2>Final question from my co host here, Beatrice, who said

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<v Speaker 2>not to say with the Latino flair. Sorry I've been directed. Yes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I also follow regulations.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I also think too, Like I just want

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<v Speaker 5>to make it very clear. We all respect what police

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<v Speaker 5>officers do. You know, we're sitting here kind of pointing

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01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:46.359
<v Speaker 5>fingers right now, but we do know that they have

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01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:50.159
<v Speaker 5>a tough job, and maybe there needs to be more

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01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:53.840
<v Speaker 5>help for police officers, you know, somebody checking in with them,

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<v Speaker 5>because I'm sure their mental health is you know, is there.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they don't know what they're facing day in

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<v Speaker 5>and day out. They you know, they get on duty

1382
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:06.119
<v Speaker 5>and they hope to come home to their family. But

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01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:10.359
<v Speaker 5>maybe there needs to be because if you're choking somebody

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01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:13.119
<v Speaker 5>out to the point where you're about you know, you're

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01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:16.039
<v Speaker 5>going to take their life, like that has to be

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01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:19.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, there's a control that you need to be

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01:22:19.159 --> 01:22:23.560
<v Speaker 5>able to control yourself, so you know, and and again

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<v Speaker 5>we love and respect our police officers, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>so I just wanted, you know, to just mention that

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<v Speaker 5>that maybe there needs to be more and they do

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<v Speaker 5>need help and they maybe they need to check in

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<v Speaker 5>periodically with somebody like they because to make them. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think they went into this wanting to be bad.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think that you know, things got escalated and

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<v Speaker 5>you know it's just there has to be more accountability.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I I mean. I've always talked about accountability,

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<v Speaker 4>not being against law enforcement. But we can train all

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<v Speaker 4>we want, but if you don't have your officers being

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<v Speaker 4>accountable for breaking policies, you got nothing. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 4>do the people get for not having their body warm

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<v Speaker 4>cameras on? I mean, what are people getting a couple

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<v Speaker 4>days off unpaid? Is that that's that's what you get.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a tap on the wrist. You should have some

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01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:24.560
<v Speaker 4>more accountability and then people like who like to get

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<v Speaker 4>this control or get crazy, they they might torn back

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<v Speaker 4>a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say something to both. Are the points

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<v Speaker 2>that both because you both basically made semi opposing points,

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<v Speaker 2>but both very important and very salient points. And for

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<v Speaker 2>Bittra's point, I there would be complete anarchy out on

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<v Speaker 2>the streets without our police officers. There be people would

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<v Speaker 2>be people would literally go over to their their neighbor's

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<v Speaker 2>house and shoot them if they piss them off, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they would people would act out even more violently. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're the most violent country in the world, and we

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<v Speaker 2>have more guns than anybody else in the world. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that I'm a gun owner, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>not you know, the type of person that wants to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and show my gun everywhere and try and

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<v Speaker 2>intimidate people with it and go, don't f with me,

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01:24:22.199 --> 01:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>look what I've got. But there are people like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And without police officers there would be anarchy

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<v Speaker 2>in the streets. So they're extremely important to civil obedience.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is when they become the criminal, and in

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01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:39.439
<v Speaker 2>a place like where you're in a county environment, which

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<v Speaker 2>you guys don't have as much in a place like

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts than the sheriff and the sheriff's deputies are extremely

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<v Speaker 2>powerful if there is no if you simply have like

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<v Speaker 2>a highway patrol situation, which is far different than what

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<v Speaker 2>you have here where the state police and you guys

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<v Speaker 2>can hear Emily Debaker talk about it. No, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have state police in our DA's office. We had investigators,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were separate and apart from the police to

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<v Speaker 2>have that separation so that there wasn't that conflict of

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<v Speaker 2>interest that we see here with Marsy and these idiots

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<v Speaker 2>giving money to his re election campaign and Adam Lally

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<v Speaker 2>and the other district assistant district attorneys. You can't do that, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>like Morrisey. Have you been to an ethics class ever anywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that in law school? Do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>the whole ethics test? You can't take donations from your subordinates, idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even give my boss a twenty dollars gift, like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>ten dollars is what I'm limited to. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a group, there's all these regulations about what

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<v Speaker 2>you can give. And I'm gonna tell you when I

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<v Speaker 2>worked for Air Force Special Operations comand a civilian, my

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<v Speaker 2>boss was a very strict If you went to a

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<v Speaker 2>trade show, like an aerospace trade show and they had

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<v Speaker 2>gift bags, he would be like, man, don't even take

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<v Speaker 2>one of those gift bags because I'm telling you right now,

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01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:16.199
<v Speaker 2>there's more than twenty dollars of value in that gift bag.

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01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't even I saw him say that to somebody. So

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01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:23.319
<v Speaker 2>ethics are extremely important and that gets to and now

1453
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:25.920
<v Speaker 2>we're going to get to what Jen was talking about,

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01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:32.319
<v Speaker 2>and it is it's leadership. So if I'm lead civilian

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01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:34.800
<v Speaker 2>in my job, or when I was a first sergeant

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01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:38.159
<v Speaker 2>at one time, if I would have gone said, ah, man,

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01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:41.079
<v Speaker 2>it's three o'clock. Man, that sounds like beer thirty to me.

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01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's get out of here. And what do you think

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01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:48.880
<v Speaker 2>the people you know are, what their attitude is going

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01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:50.600
<v Speaker 2>to be? Hey, man, we don't need to stay the

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01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:54.640
<v Speaker 2>whole day. Boss Man's good with this. And that is

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01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:58.039
<v Speaker 2>what's happening with these guys is this is a cultural

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01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>leadership thing. And we have no indication that this Jeff

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01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:08.079
<v Speaker 2>what's his name, Beatrice, Jeff, the new guy from New Jersey,

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01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:12.319
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm talking about. He has a what

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01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:15.199
<v Speaker 2>is it? I can't remember his life.

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01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:18.000
<v Speaker 4>But yes, he's here, you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>The Yeah, and that guy who called the young lady

1469
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>actually who called into Mike's show the other night, he said, look,

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01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:29.880
<v Speaker 2>if Massachusetts is super corrupt, then Jersey's got to be

1471
01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:32.399
<v Speaker 2>a close second. So she's like, I don't have any

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01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:34.640
<v Speaker 2>faith that this guy you're bringing in is not gonna

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01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:38.079
<v Speaker 2>do it. And I laugh when they go. We've removed

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01:27:38.079 --> 01:27:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Brian Tully from his duties as lead. I'm like, so,

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01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:47.640
<v Speaker 2>what what does that mean? Doesn't cost him any money? Yeah?

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01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Like so you know what though, But we're gonna leave

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01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:56.039
<v Speaker 2>on a high note, girlfriend, because we have look at

1478
01:27:56.079 --> 01:27:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the Look at the people that you have here. Look

1479
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:01.239
<v Speaker 2>at this girl right here. Please?

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01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:05.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh you know I saw your sweatshirt on Twitter.

1481
01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say this, so please pass the pepper.

1482
01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to irritate my acid reflux. That's all

1483
01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I got to say this hot food. Sorry, but we

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01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:24.640
<v Speaker 2>have an amazing group of people here, not you know,

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01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:28.520
<v Speaker 2>the justice warriors that are every bit is important as

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01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:32.439
<v Speaker 2>the content creators that are out there, and those of

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01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:34.920
<v Speaker 2>us that have Twitter law degrees like Jen and myself.

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01:28:35.279 --> 01:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>We're waiting conferral from Melanie little Jeff Noble, thank you,

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01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>that's right. Yeah, I'm I'm going to see how noble

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01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:45.359
<v Speaker 2>he is. Uh. That could be a play on words,

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01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:55.039
<v Speaker 2>right there, a double on. But we do really do

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01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:59.159
<v Speaker 2>have an amazing group of people, and I think we're

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01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>heading the right direct. There's a lot of noise people

1494
01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:05.840
<v Speaker 2>in other countries, hear you. I think a turtle boy

1495
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:09.119
<v Speaker 2>got a message from Denmark the other night on air.

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01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:11.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anybody's have heard of any of

1497
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:14.600
<v Speaker 2>the other norwey, I'm pretty sure I've heard Norway obviously.

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01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Australia has you know, three fairly prolific content creators. The

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01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>United Kingdom with Dylan, and there's probably more than Dylan

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01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>that are that are just covering this Canada. Hey, thank

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01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:34.119
<v Speaker 2>you Missy in Hiszzy uh and you guys don't remember

1502
01:29:34.159 --> 01:29:39.079
<v Speaker 2>thin Lizzy. But anyway, but yeah, I think we're we're

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01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:42.199
<v Speaker 2>headed in the right direction. Song and it is an

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01:29:42.279 --> 01:29:46.520
<v Speaker 2>honor to uh to have you on here, and I'll

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01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:48.600
<v Speaker 2>be seeing you in a couple of months.

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01:29:49.319 --> 01:29:51.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we can't read.

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01:29:51.399 --> 01:29:54.600
<v Speaker 4>I was seeing November thirteenth at two pm.

1508
01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:56.960
<v Speaker 5>Yes, so don't be shy.

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01:29:57.159 --> 01:30:00.840
<v Speaker 4>Come up to us and say hello, Tell your friend

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01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:02.239
<v Speaker 4>some friends.

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01:30:03.199 --> 01:30:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Dylan, Wait, I want to timber. Dylan's from Wales,

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01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>but it's still the United Kingdom. Homie a broken Baker.

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01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:15.720
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be the show too. Who is that? Where

1514
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:19.640
<v Speaker 2>is he from? His accent is not quite distinguishable. Does

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01:30:19.680 --> 01:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>anybody know? Is he from the Netherlands? Anybody know Austria.

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01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:29.960
<v Speaker 4>Baker?

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01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it sounds like the Burgermeister from Santa

1518
01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Claus is coming to town. Okay, I do work. I

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01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:44.439
<v Speaker 2>worked in I do. I worked in a CD store

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01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>for nine years. Indiana in the house. What's up? Man?

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01:30:48.039 --> 01:30:50.680
<v Speaker 2>He's Dutch, didn't I say from the Netherlands?

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01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:53.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, you know your accents?

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01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:57.479
<v Speaker 2>Ten points for Griffin Dall All right.

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01:30:59.439 --> 01:31:02.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I Hey, I always wanted to just leave like

1525
01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:07.199
<v Speaker 4>we're stronger together, okay, and we just need to build

1526
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:11.359
<v Speaker 4>on this momentum and stick together, and we're going to

1527
01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:14.760
<v Speaker 4>do amazing things. I mean, amazing things are going to happen.

1528
01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:17.159
<v Speaker 4>I just know it's people power.

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01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>People power one hundred percent. Hey, welcome back, Jason. Yeah, Hey, Jason.

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01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:30.199
<v Speaker 2>And Missy Missy in oh Man. Missy. I guess she's

1531
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>a singer as well. And which is more pertinent to

1532
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:36.560
<v Speaker 2>this weekend's roundtable where we have a couple of musicians.

1533
01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:39.159
<v Speaker 2>But we did a cab music show and what we

1534
01:31:39.199 --> 01:31:42.359
<v Speaker 2>did is we brought on like five or six content

1535
01:31:42.439 --> 01:31:46.119
<v Speaker 2>creators and ask them instead of we're not going to

1536
01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:49.239
<v Speaker 2>complain about all our problems in justice tonight, everything we're

1537
01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>pissed off about, We're we're talking about our favorite singer

1538
01:31:52.279 --> 01:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>and who are our favorite singers or bands and why

1539
01:31:56.520 --> 01:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and Missy came in on that one, so it was

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01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>really dope. Man, it turns out he's a singer.

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01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:02.399
<v Speaker 4>You know what. That's what her and I have in

1542
01:32:02.439 --> 01:32:06.199
<v Speaker 4>common too. If I also do a lot of singing

1543
01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:09.960
<v Speaker 4>and I love going to karaoke, I would have been

1544
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:13.479
<v Speaker 4>a singer if you know, I didn't want to. I

1545
01:32:13.560 --> 01:32:16.520
<v Speaker 4>just wanted to be make some money and go to

1546
01:32:16.760 --> 01:32:20.640
<v Speaker 4>college for marketing. But uh, but anyway, yeah, I love

1547
01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:21.439
<v Speaker 4>singing too.

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01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, then how are you gonna let me sit here

1549
01:32:23.720 --> 01:32:26.119
<v Speaker 2>and sing on the show when you're a singer? Tell

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01:32:26.119 --> 01:32:28.800
<v Speaker 2>me you're a singer up front so that I won't sing? Hey,

1551
01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, going to embarrass myself?

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01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:33.880
<v Speaker 4>Do the ROBERTA Flack I love Donna Summer on the radio?

1553
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Man, can ROBERTA Flack?

1554
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:42.880
<v Speaker 4>I love Roberta Yep. Yeah, I'm like, I need to

1555
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:46.800
<v Speaker 4>get to a karaoke Hey, Hey, Massachusetts peeps, where is

1556
01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:49.880
<v Speaker 4>the karaoke spot? Because I definitely want to go.

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01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:51.800
<v Speaker 5>I'll be your backup dancer.

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01:32:52.479 --> 01:32:54.880
<v Speaker 4>Hey, that's good, and sometimes you might want to join

1559
01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:59.600
<v Speaker 4>join in. Actually a lot of the pictures I have

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01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:03.159
<v Speaker 4>from my with my brother is from the forty at

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01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:06.159
<v Speaker 4>my fortieth birthday and we had a live band carryo.

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01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah Stevie Nicks. Oh my god. All right, So

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01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>when the next music show, we'll have both you guys on,

1564
01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and I want you to consider your favorite your mount

1565
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:22.840
<v Speaker 2>rushmore of music that could be a singer, a solo artist,

1566
01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:25.279
<v Speaker 2>that could be a band, it could be whatever genre.

1567
01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>And you have a Washington, a Jefferson, a Theodore Roosevelt

1568
01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:33.119
<v Speaker 2>in a Lincoln position to fulfill with your top four

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01:33:33.199 --> 01:33:38.079
<v Speaker 2>favorite artists. Okay, okay, all right. I hope you had

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01:33:38.079 --> 01:33:43.039
<v Speaker 2>some fun tonight. I certainly did. I think we learned

1571
01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about Justin and I hope we can

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01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:48.039
<v Speaker 2>have you back on again.

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01:33:48.119 --> 01:33:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, And thanks to everybody tuning in and watching.

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01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:56.000
<v Speaker 4>It's that like button subscribe.

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01:33:57.239 --> 01:34:03.960
<v Speaker 5>The right ont as Melanie says, do all the YouTube things.

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01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:06.119
<v Speaker 4>Do those things.

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01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>She's so funny and so witty, like she's like, I.

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01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:17.000
<v Speaker 5>Give her all day long. I literally, it's she's amazing.

1579
01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:20.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean there's so many she's like that strains cugility.

1580
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I know, I use that word credulity,

1581
01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:29.960
<v Speaker 2>but then she uses it even better than because she says,

1582
01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I'll say it defies credulity, but she'll say it's strange

1583
01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:36.079
<v Speaker 2>and that sounds even better. But she's just brilliant, man,

1584
01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:38.760
<v Speaker 2>She's just a brilliant She's like, you know, like Nurse

1585
01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Kim is brilliant content.

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01:34:40.479 --> 01:34:41.039
<v Speaker 4>I love her.

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01:34:42.039 --> 01:34:44.680
<v Speaker 5>We really do have a great community though. That's the thing.

1588
01:34:44.840 --> 01:34:47.039
<v Speaker 5>It's like, you know, you're sitting here mentioning you know,

1589
01:34:47.199 --> 01:34:50.760
<v Speaker 5>Melanie Nurse Kim, and it's like there's just there's so

1590
01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:53.239
<v Speaker 5>many more. We have so many good people on our

1591
01:34:53.319 --> 01:34:56.640
<v Speaker 5>side and so many people that are just out there

1592
01:34:56.880 --> 01:35:01.000
<v Speaker 5>fighting the fight and you know, having the voices be heard.

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01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:04.960
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and we're just gonna keep getting larger.

1594
01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yep, we are. We are. We've got a lot of positivity,

1595
01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:10.720
<v Speaker 2>and we will set something.

1596
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:12.520
<v Speaker 4>Up Love Winds.

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01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:21.079
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's one hundred months, no Love Winds. Do

1598
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:23.399
<v Speaker 2>you like to self edit where I almost curse, but

1599
01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:25.479
<v Speaker 2>then I don't be a trice so I get another

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01:35:25.520 --> 01:35:30.119
<v Speaker 2>five points? Okay, So yeah, so we will see you.

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01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>We'll plan something out for January and have some sort

1602
01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:37.520
<v Speaker 2>of meal of food where we won't be bothered by

1603
01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Mcalberts and uh, and we'll get together and yuck it

1604
01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:43.000
<v Speaker 2>up a little bit, all right, and I'll wear this.

1605
01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I wore this flowered shirt. These two right.

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01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:49.079
<v Speaker 4>Here, nice thanks. I love flowers.

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01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right on, behalf of my homies that we're

1608
01:35:55.840 --> 01:35:59.640
<v Speaker 2>talking about right here, Beatrice and Chen. This is DJ

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01:36:00.960 --> 01:36:05.600
<v Speaker 2>peace Out, One Love. We'll see you down the road.

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01:36:06.119 --> 01:36:09.359
<v Speaker 2>And we're always wondering what is up around the Bend.