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Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist

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Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the

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Federalist and your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge.

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Our guest today is Congressman Andy Ogles, representing Tennessee's fighting

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fifth Congressional district. Congressman last week called it asked a

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secret service in FBI leadership to open a joint investigation

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into disgraced former FB director James Comey's threatening shell game.

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Secret service is now investigating the former leaker in chief

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that President Trump is called a dirty cop. There's much

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more to come on this front, as you can imagine.

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Congressman Ogles, thank you so much for joining us in

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the Federalist Radio Hour.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You been well. We saw what most people with eyes

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saw late last week on Thursday, the former FDI director

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trying to be cute and putting on his Instagram page

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this neat little shell formation he found when he took

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some heat. He pulled that down, the old eighty six

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forty seven. The message seemed clear to just about everybody.

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He said, well, I didn't know that it was a

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symbol that eighty six meant anything about killing or assassinating.

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This is the same guy, by the way, the former

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FBI director who spent the early part of his career

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prosecuting the Gambino family, the notorious mafia family, my hunches.

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You're not buying what he is selling.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, of course not. I mean, I mean

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I would argue that, you know, it was one might

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say it was a veiled threat to eliminate the president.

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I would take it a step further, given his background,

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his ties to or investigating the mob, you know, and

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in eighty six is you know, take you know that

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kind of that phrase comes from actually the mob saying

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where you you know, take someone eight miles out of

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town and you bury him six feet under. So that's

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the eighty six. And so for him to say that

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he doesn't know what that means is really laughable, if

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not just offensive. And so you know, he was escorted,

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he got a special ride by the Secret Service to

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be questioned, we'll see what comes of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, you were, I believe, the first to call for

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an investigation. You got exactly that in short order from

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the Department of Homeland Security and Secret Service within it.

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What do you think will come out of this investigation?

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I know there's a difference between hoping what comes out

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of this investigation and what will ultimately come out of

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this investigation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so as that was happening, I just happened to

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come across it. Immediately reached out to my team and

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we went ahead and tagged the FBI. So we got

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a formal request out on letterhead and sent it to

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Secret Service and the FBI, and really cited eighteen USC

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eight seventy one and eight seventy five, which is threats

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against the President and interstate threats, and so you know,

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this is a pretty significant I mean, to threaten the

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president of the United States is serious, and especially if

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you're someone like Comy, given his background, giving his experience,

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and again it's it's hard for him, in my mind

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to claim he didn't know what it was, what the

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eighty six meant. So you know, I don't want to

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get ahead of my of my skiz or ahead of

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the investigation. But this should send a chilling message to

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anyone and everyone that you can't make these types of

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threats against the president, the vice president, a senator, the

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Supreme Court justices, a member of Congress, quite frankly, and

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you know, words have consequences.

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Speaker 1: And so do elections. But the left doesn't seem to

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understand that, even though you know they're idle, they're bow

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idol in. Barack Obama said the same thing and many

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many years ago, the elections have consequences. This is, I

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think the the interesting part about all of this. Interesting,

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maybe a stretch, and it's not surprising that the usual

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suspects on the left and their pals in the accomplice

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media sprang to James Comey's defense. What do you make

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of their argument that, well, you conservatives, the mega movement,

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they just don't understand what eighty six means. You pointed

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that out earlier in our conversation. It is indeed a

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mafia term. They keep pushing the fact that eighty six

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has connotations of getting rid of or removing someone, you know.

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eighty six ing someone a drunkard from a bar. When

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you have an FBI director with a notorious record like

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James Comy and his attempts to as I wrote in

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The Federalist, a story published this week, to eighty six

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the presidents from office in his first term, it's hard

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to imagine him posting this and meaning something other than

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the mafia like term we've talked about.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, and imagine for a moment if I

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were walking down the beach and I were to post

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a similar picture and would have said that about Biden,

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or about Obama or about Kamala, the media would have

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gone bananas. They would have been calling for my resignation.

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the left immediately circles the wagons and makes excuses for coming.

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you know led Operation Crossfire, you know that went after Trump.

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This is the same FBI that denied that the Hunter

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Biden laptop, you know, had anything of relevance on it.

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And so I don't think he's a trustworthy individual under

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his leadership, They weaponized the Justice Department against the American people.

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And now you see him, you know, and he's a

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smart guy, you know. I'm sure he thought it out

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and realized that there was a secondary definition that he could,

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you know, fall back to. But it was a reckless

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act and again, in my opinion, he should be held accountable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to that in a moment too. The

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history of this guy, But discovery could be problematic for

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James Comy as they go through what I hope is

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a thorough investigation. Did he email some pals? Did he

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have communications with his old professor Palell? You remember that

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he leaked information to a Haha boy, this will really

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stir up some trouble here. I don't know whatever his motivation,

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Maybe it's selling his new book, but there seemed to

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be definite intention there. Are you concerned because of what

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we've seen from the Secret Service investigations thus far as

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it relates to the actual assassination attempt of then candidate

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Donald Trump in that field in Butler, Pennsylvania last July,

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that has been a suspect investigation in the minds of

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a lot of people thus far. You concern that they

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may not treat this as seriously as they should.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's a lot of good people working

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within our agencies. I think what we saw into the

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Biden administration was lack of leadership and then an emphasis

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on DEI where those individuals that should be in leadership

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or you know, kind of taking charge roles actionable roles

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were not and they were passed over by individuals that

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were so par But that being said, you know, there's

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this double standard both with the Justice Department and in

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the media. You know, you so you go back to

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twenty fifteen, you know, Comy oversaw an investigation to Hillary

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Clinton's private email server, classified information on a private server,

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and yet fast forward and you've got you know, the

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media losing their minds over a signal gate, you know,

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with our secretary of Defense. Then you have twenty seventeen.

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that he leaked information to the press. So again, this

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is an individual he's weaponized his role, his government, the

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tools that he's had at hand, whether it's the press

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or or the law, quite frankly, to kind of achieve

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a political end. We saw it when he was in office,

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and now you're seeing it out of office. So I

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have faith in the leadership that the President has put

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in place. Obviously, actions speak louder than words. So we'll

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see what happens as we go forward. But look, when

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when you're trying to write the ship, whether it's the

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Secret Service, the FBI, the Justice Department, and all the

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other agencies that had gone awry and woke under Biden,

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they have their plate is full. But you know when

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we look at say, you know Bondy and what she's doing,

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you know, you saw a couple hundred children rescued this

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past about ten days ago from a human trafficking child

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trafficking sting. So they're working hard. But there this is

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you know, this isn't a you know, clean up on

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AL five. This is a clean up on a one routine.

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And the Trump administration has been working at lightning speed

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to correct the wrongs of the past administrations. But we'll see,

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you know, you know, it's trust they verify. But we'll

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see what happens in this investigation.

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems like gasoline on the fire to a

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lot of Americans, a lot of Americans who have who

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watched Live last July from Butler Pennsylvania, when that assassins

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would be assassin's bullet came within a fraction of an

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inch of making the President of the United States an

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assassinated president of the United States. If something should happen,

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God forbid, Is James Comy culpable in your estimation in

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terms of the eighty six ing expression, Well, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, of course you'd have to, you know, from a

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legal standpoint, you know, prove that he incided violence. But

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I mean, I think one who is out there inciting

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violence should be held accountable. You can't you can't yell

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fire and a crowd at theater, and you can't go

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on social media and call for the assassination of the

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President of the United States. And you know, when you

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go back to Butler, Pennsylvania, you know, my mind, that

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was a God moment. You know, had Trump not turned

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his head ever so slightly, that would have hit him

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right in the temple. And so I think it's a

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wake up call to Americans that we are truly a

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nation under God and that God does watch and at

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times intervene in the actions of man. But that being said,

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coming back to our world is you know, I want

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to know more about the shooter, you know, and his background,

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his motivations. You know, did he have help, was he

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you know, coached into it? You know, were there those

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that were inciting him to violence? Or was he was

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he this truly alone wolf? You know, there was certainly

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huge lapses and security and breakdowns and communications almost to

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the point of looking criminal and conspiratorial. So there's a

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lot to unpack there. You know, they didn't have proper overwatch,

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meaning a sniper. They didn't have drones and that sort

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of thing. So the failings of the Secret Service in

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that case are gross, uh again and perhaps even negligent.

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weren't they weren't putting their best forward. You had the

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agents that were body men for the president who were

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you know, foot and a half two feet shorter than

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he was. I mean, at some point there's a there's

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a physics that comes into play if you're if you're

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a body man guarding an individual. And so again could

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just like with this comb investigation, trust but verify, We'll

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see what happens as we go forward. You know, I

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made the official request, Well can you continue to push

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and push and try to hold him accountable. Same thing

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goes with Butler Pennsylvania, figuring out what the heck happened there,

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making sure that it never happens again.

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Speaker 1: We are a nation under God, but we are filled

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with a lot of godless people who are trending more

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and more toward violence. Perhaps you've seen the Survey, a

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very detailed and academic study on the state of the

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rising violence political violence in America. It was in partnership

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with Rutgers University, came out last month showed that fifty

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five percent of those identifying as members of the left

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or liberal leaning believe that it is justified at some

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level to assassinate President Donald Trump, to assassinate Elon Musk

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and other Trump administration government officials. When James Comy does

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this and says, I had no idea about the the

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meaning behind eighty six, I thought this was just an

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interesting formation of shells. What are we supposed to take

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from that? Given how much hatred on the left, the derangement,

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the Trump derangement syndrome is out there, knowing that threats

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of Trump two point zero, and it portends to get

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even worse. James Comy, the FBI, former FBI director, certainly

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must understand the iron in which we now live.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I would say that when you look

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across the blue cities across our country, that the left

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eye is a systemic problem of you know, being they

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cite the law when it you know, benefits to them.

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That being said, and when you saw the defund the police,

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these inflammatory remarks towards our men and women in blue.

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sucker punching elderly or people totally unaware, you know, and

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those random acts of little violence, small violence, you know,

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and nothing's done about it. I mean, so that's setting

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the stage and the narrative that that's okay. And now

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now you magnify that towards Trump, who's a big personality.

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the idea that anyone that anyone would think that that

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would be okay to assassinate your political opponent. Look, it

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didn't work in Rome, it didn't work in the British Empire.

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It really actually portends the end of an empire when

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political violence is manifesting itself through the weaponization of the judiciary,

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but also through assassinations. And so I think it's a

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wake up call for us in this country to get

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back to the rule of law. Justice is supposed to

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be blind. It doesn't matter if you're right or left,

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Republican or Democrat, black, blue, yellow, white, pink, it doesn't matter.

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Justice should be blind. And if we allow the justice

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department to be weaponized again, you and I can disagree,

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but the same laws to protect you, protect me, the

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same laws to protect me protect AOC, etc. And we've

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got to get back to that.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, our guest today is Congressman Andy Ogles, representing Tennessee's

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fighting fifth Congressional District, joining us about James call me

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the disgraced former FBI director and what too many Americans

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is more than a veiled threat against the forty seventh

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president of the United States of America. You raise a

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good point, but you know, in the wake of Butler,

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Pennsylvania last July, we heard from Joe Biden. At that time,

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we heard from Democrats everywhere, We've got to turn down

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the temperature, the political temperature in the room. What have

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they done, in your estimation to turn down the political temperature,

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certainly now that President Trump is into his second term.

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Speaker 2: Well, they haven't done anything at all. In fact, you know,

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I think some of those members of Congress on the

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left have made very reckless statements towards Republicans, towards you know, conservatives.

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And again, if I were to make and I'm not

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going to call anybody out, but if I were to

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make similar comments about them, I would have you know,

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the Secret Service probably knocking on my door within you know,

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thirty minutes. And so you know, again, actions speak louder

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than words. They call for peace, they call for turning

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down the temperature, but then they go right out and

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they give a speech talk about resistance, and you know,

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again calls of violence, albeit veiled. And so it's you know,

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it's stark that that survey fifty five percent of those liberals,

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you know, think it's okay to assassinate a president in

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the United States. But this is a sad commentary as

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to where we are in this country. Look, I was

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never a fan of President Obama, wasn't a fan of

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President Biden. But I never, in any circumstance would have

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called for violence again against either of those men or

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their family, because that's not who we are as a country,

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and we're better than that.

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Speaker 1: Is this long pass due that James Comy be held accountable.

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I mean, this is a different issue altogether, this Instagram post.

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But you mentioned it before. This was the same guy

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who led the you know, the bogus investigation, the whole

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bogus Russian collusion debacle, the guy who was responsible for

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leaking so much information, including confidential information. This is the

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sort of stuff that they tried to set up a

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prosecution against Donald Trump about you know, it just seems

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like he got a big pass even under the Trump administration.

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Is it time for Congress to take a look a

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closer look at James Comi and his career at the

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end of his days at the FBI.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, like you said, you know, in twenty

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fifteen you had the investigation of Hillary Clinton and the

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private server that seemed to be a huge botched investigation.

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Twenty sixteen, you had the Russian collusion operation Crossfire, which

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again you had individuals of the intelligence community that were

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falsified a letter against President Trump. He leaks information, private

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conversations about the president. So is any of it criminal?

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I don't know. Is it worthy of an investigation? Absolutely,

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But again, at some point you have to determine what

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is the greatest priority. You know, they have so much

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on their plate, they being you know, the Trump administration

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and those that he's put into office. Is Comy worth it?

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Before that the Shell incident, the eighty six forty seven,

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I would have said probably not because of that, Because

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of that incident, because of the incitement of violence, albeit

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veiled or I don't know, was it veiled or not.

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But I think now he should be put under a

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microscope and then quite frankly due to him what he's

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done to so many others for political reasons, that he

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did for political reasons, let me write.

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Speaker 1: It correctly, right, and the examples are myriad. You know,

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you're absolutely right when you think about how much of

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a mess the Department of Justice has to clean up.

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That's why I'm glad to see I'm sure you are

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as well, a panel that is devoted to looking into

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the weaponization of the Justice Department under Attorney General Pam Bondi,

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and we're seeing the fruits of that early on. We

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need to see more of that. Accountability has of course

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been lacking, and that brings me to the Biden administration

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and the former president of the United States. We've learned

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some very troubling things in the last twenty four hours

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that this former president now has a very very serious

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form of prostate cancer that has moved into his bones.

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There are some confirmations coming out that his prostate examination

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was not included that information in his last round of checkups.

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There is concern, and there was concern before we got here,

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about a cover up about the capability of Joe Biden

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to be the president of the United states. Now that

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came long before that disastrous debate nearly a year ago.

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What are your thoughts about what we are now learning

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the Mia Kulpa tour by the Jake Tappers of the

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world trying to get themselves off the hook for participating

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in that cover up. What do you think about all

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of this?

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Speaker 2: Well, know, you know I sounded the alarm on Biden

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and his cognitive ability after his State of the Union.

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So if you think back lake and Riley, the young

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college student who was killed by the illegal obviously there

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was an outcry about that. And because of where I

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sit in the House chamber, I am literally one of

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the first I'm either the first or the second person

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that the President greets when they come in. So President

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Joe Biden walks into the chamber for a State of

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the Union. On his left walking in as he's coming

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down the aisle towards the podium is a Democrat. He

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immediately turns to me and shakes my hand, And there's

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a picture of me leaning over shaking President Biden's hand,

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and I'm touching my lapel, And on that lapel was

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a simple white button and it had her name Lake

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and Riley, and I lean over, and I was a

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nice and respectful to the president, mister president, thank you

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for being here, or whatever I said. I said, I

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want you to take a look at my button, and

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it's for Lake and Riley. She was killed by an

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illegal and I need you to do something about it.

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And I paused, and he looks at me with this

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blank stare. He doesn't say anything for a moment or two.

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Then he kind of raises his hands and shutters and

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he says, oh, I like your button. He was unable

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to put together a compound sentence of Hey, I want

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you to look at my button and oh, it's got

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the name of a dead girl on it. He could

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only process the first part of that statement very quickly.

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His handlers realized that he and I were having a

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very serious conversation, and they whisked him away from me.

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And again, it was in that moment, you know, and

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I'm not trying to be disrespectful, respectful, but I could

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see in his eyes the lights were on, but nobody

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was home because he was unable to have a cognit,

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you know, a serious conversation with me in that moment

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that was unscripted. And so it's no surprise that we

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now see the as this tape comes out and he's

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unable to complete thoughts, there's muttered words. His aides are

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having to help him recall facts or correct the record

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all through the interview. That's no surprise to me because

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I had a one on one conversation with the man

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and he couldn't have a conversation with me at all.

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And so and again, it's not surprising that the White

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House covered up his medical exam, that they left out parts.

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I said, oh, well, he's got a meeting or whatever

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their excuse was. Last time I checked. All presidents get

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thoroughly poked and prodded because we need to know that

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the commander in chief is actually the commander in chief

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and whatever his disorder is that was affecting his cognitive

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ability most of those cocktails, And to be clear, I'm

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not a clinician, don't pretend to be one. Not only

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are there a series of medicines that you have to

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take and a diet that you have to did here too,

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but it also requires a lot of rest. So that

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begs the question. Were there periods of time when the

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commander in chief was sedated? Was he the one who

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signed the pardons, What actions were taken in that White

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House under his watch that he he's totally unaware of.

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There's an investigation that needs to be had in that

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regard and whether or not those pardons, for example, are

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even valid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I wanted to get to. You

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were referring, of course, before to the Robert her interview.

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Axios released those late last week. They basically told us

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what we knew, but in more frightening capacity, we could

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see with our own eyes just how far gone this

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man was, and he was the man who was supposed

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to be responsible for running the country. All this talk about,

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you know, using the twenty fifth Amendment during the Trump era,

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and nothing from the left or from the usual suspects

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of the accomplice media on that is. Do you believe

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there will be an investigation into the people who were

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clearly running the White House when the lights were on

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but nobody was there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would certainly hope so, And you know, you

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hate to delve into the realm of conspiracy, but I

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think they recognized that they had an issue, that they

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had a man that was not going to make it

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through a second term because of his health. They had

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a vice president who was unelectable. Their best shot at

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a reelection was Joe Biden, so they had to prop

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him up and protect him. And of course, I think

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again I'm guessing observation that his decline was much more

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rapid than they anticipated, and ultimately he was dropped off

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the ballot, and of course the rest is history. Kamala

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was not a good candidate. Trump is a fantastic candidate.

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He spoke to American people, he had a vision for,

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you know, the golden age of America, and the electorate,

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you know, rewarded him for it. But that being said,

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there needs to be an investigation. I want to know

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if he was actually president of the United States. I

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want to know what actions are invalid. And then of

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course there's some constitutional questions that come into play there

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of you know, all right, how do we address those things?

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If if we can at all, then how do we

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make sure that this never happens again.

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Speaker 1: It would seem to me that there is only one

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guy that he pardoned that he would know anything about.

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And I'm not entirely convinced at this point he still

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knew about his own son, his own criminal son that

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he pardoned not only for crimes previously committed, but crimes

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moving investigations that you know that could prove very difficult

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for Hunter Biden. But you talk about there was a

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day with I don't remember the number it was, just

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it was a record number of pardons in one day,

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more pardons issued than any president had over the course

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of a term in office. Here too, for this is

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some pretty striking stuff going on. And then think about

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all of the other issues, and they come up over

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and over again, everything from the mass amounts of illegal

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immigrants pouring into our borders, the invasion that we saw,

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all of these sorts of things. Was this guy who

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was supposed to be responsible for all of these things

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because he was elected, right, was he actually doing this stuff?

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Was he really signing this stuff? Was he leading this stuff?

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And I think we've learned that the answer is no.

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But just how deep does this go? Well?

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Speaker 2: And then you know, you think about my interaction with

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President Joe Biden on the House floor as he was

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coming in for the State of the Union. Now, imagine

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if you're a world leader, and so it's no wonder

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that under Joe Biden you saw Iran and their proxies

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attack Israel. It's no wonder that Russia was emboldened to

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attack Ukraine. It's no wonder that hat fell apart because

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the gangs there knew that the police weren't coming to

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police being the United States of America. And then you

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look at South and Central America, where otherwise pro US

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countries have now shifted towards China, in part because they

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saw US as weak. Part of it was because of

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the Dei nonsense that pushing in religious countries in Central

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and South America. So the foreign policy consequences of Biden,

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his cognitive ability or inability, and the wokeness that they

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were really trying to sell and push around the world.

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This is something that President Trump is dealing with and

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having to clean up. And but again it gets back

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to accountability. Who know who knew what and when and then.

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But we also saw it on full display, you know,

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when you had and I forget I think they were

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in Italy, but President Biden was there with with other

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prime ministers and he literally just kind of wanders off

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and the other the other prime ministers kind of kind

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of pin him in and blocking so he can't wander off,

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you know, And if you're in their shoes and you're

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looking and say, this is the leader of the free world,

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this is the guy that's supposed to have our back. Yeah,

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I don't think they were convinced.

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Speaker 1: And final question for you on that You look at

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the the handlers Joe Biden over the years, from his

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spokespeople Jen Bisaki and you know his latest most recent

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handler on that front, you talk about the secretary's, the

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department heads, the people who ultimately had control over the

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twenty fifth Amendment and that decision. Will anybody be held

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accountable for what clearly seems to me in absolute cover

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up and perhaps the worst cover up we have seen

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in this country when it comes to corruption in the

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White House.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, I would say, if I'm just being candid,

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probably not. You know, if anybody made statements under oath,

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that obviously is a whole lot easier to prove and

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to target legally. But we'll see. I think I have

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larger issues with or concerns about any executive orders and pardons,

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legal binding documents that the President was signing, And the

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question is was he actually signing them? Was he aware

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of what was being signed in his name? I understand

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that there's an auto pen. I understand that the President

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may not sit down and sign two hundred pieces of

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paper for pardons, but he's still giving the approval to

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use his name on those documents. And I doubt that

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Joe Biden was.

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Speaker 1: We shall see, We shall see. Thanks to my guest today,

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Representative Andy Ogle's Republican Tennessee. You've been listening to another

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edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior

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Elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more.

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Until then, stay lovers of freedom. I'm anxious for the

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fray