Speaker 1: All right, and we are back the stream lights and running.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I know it's been a while, but I'm back at it.
Speaker 1: Not my usual typical time, but it's the usual typical place.
Speaker 1: That's super radio radio on Twitch.
Speaker 2: As you are, as we are four.
Speaker 1: Let me see doctor Chris, I'm back. I'm actually on
Speaker 1: the phone with Alec Alec Hammer. I'm the print Pearl wrestler.
Speaker 1: But he had to go somewhere quick, so he'll be
Speaker 1: back on to be back in a few seconds. I've
Speaker 1: actually played some mega mant right now. We'll help with you.
Speaker 1: We'll help with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a real beachweter material.
Speaker 2: He's back.
Speaker 1: You all went along with Alec Hammer. What's the good man?
Speaker 1: You don't you don't get no musical you don't get
Speaker 1: no plugs. I mean, you don't get no drops. You
Speaker 1: just get this sound of my soothing phone sex voice.
Speaker 1: What's up man? You got I don't know what you're doing,
Speaker 1: but you got him do something different. He sounds very muffled.
Speaker 1: That sounds better. Go ahead, keep talking, Yeah, he sounds better.
Speaker 1: So what's up with you? Man? Not much?
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, trying to get on show as possible,
Speaker 4: you know, getting my name out there, getting my brand
Speaker 4: out there, bulken on a lot of stuffs.
Speaker 2: Good stuff, you.
Speaker 4: Know, just trying to will you know, build the blank
Speaker 4: camera and get up there.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's that coming up? What's that? What's that coming up?
Speaker 2: So the instresting lines put a lot of shout out
Speaker 2: in the brance built through the system and so think announced,
Speaker 2: you know, gays, there's gonna be a lot of returns
Speaker 2: and there's gonna be a lot of action, you know
Speaker 2: when in the storylines. Now I'm really really invested in.
Speaker 5: Because you know, I know, I knows that.
Speaker 2: The building a lot of stone.
Speaker 5: Has right now with about but they turned on him.
Speaker 4: So, you know, totally interesting to see that aloudies, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, I was shocking to see how you know, I.
Speaker 2: I get the rain is doing.
Speaker 4: But you know, I been a little day the super
Speaker 4: half of Saturday. I got announce so I'll be going
Speaker 4: to buy.
Speaker 5: A baby, which you.
Speaker 6: Know, it's it's a full circle moment. It's a long
Speaker 6: time coming. Like post said, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I ventured off before anybody hadn't really started.
Speaker 4: To kind of found my own to found my own way.
Speaker 2: And how well the route that I chose.
Speaker 5: I chose to stay at one place I didn't feel
Speaker 5: like I was.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: Quite honorable enough time to get my name, my parent
Speaker 4: and I really wanted to learn.
Speaker 5: Originally the roads of the business, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I really.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, what's your what's your specific match? You gotta
Speaker 1: come up this week in June twenty eighth in Jersey,
Speaker 1: No not Jerseys, Bronx, I Fall.
Speaker 5: I'm going to be announce oh.
Speaker 1: Facing Okay, Okay, you've been quite You've been quite the
Speaker 1: busy person. Like you have a lot of dates coming up,
Speaker 1: not just Saturday, but they're like all of like all
Speaker 1: over this past summer and going to the fall, right,
Speaker 1: tell me more about those.
Speaker 4: Yes, I got on this nightth Philadelphia King Wrestling. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm good for that opportunity. I got another book being
Speaker 4: in September.
Speaker 2: With under.
Speaker 5: Uh. They some other staff that talks late in the
Speaker 5: scenes and the spoil it just yet.
Speaker 4: You know, it happens, it happens if it doesn't, you know,
Speaker 4: there's another book and that I will not I get
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 5: On the similar previous.
Speaker 2: Chef that I uh, I did a new address which
Speaker 2: was actually a long time coming to me. It was.
Speaker 4: Gosh, that was three years for making. I was breaking
Speaker 4: for an opportunity to be in the.
Speaker 2: Four Day match.
Speaker 4: With Alex and Co Bale Mendoza and Andrew Matthews. Then
Speaker 4: everybody's seeing that change. If not, you should check it
Speaker 4: out wrestling in Instagram. Everybody hit me up in the video.
Speaker 4: Let up about this church side those church sings.
Speaker 2: Mean basically that's the build built church I've ever delivered
Speaker 2: to anyone. Kay, Yeah, the way I wanted to. I
Speaker 2: don't get the results.
Speaker 4: You know, it is what it is, you know, wrestling
Speaker 4: for me, it's not about the music loses. It's more story,
Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, Wilson order, you know, I'm like welving
Speaker 4: back to an a W story continuous.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I also give a show on the e C p W,
Speaker 4: which was another show that I wanted to do for
Speaker 4: a long time.
Speaker 2: I thinks means and courage very interesting guy. Uh, I
Speaker 2: don't know too many guys in the wrestling business that.
Speaker 4: I don't actually uh institution or a mental hospital.
Speaker 2: So going into that that was that was great. And
Speaker 2: I I thought.
Speaker 4: I was facing someone who riding I could I could
Speaker 4: take a part and he I don't know. It was
Speaker 4: just pleasant something I worked myself against myself and.
Speaker 5: On the can match. After the match, Uh, you know,
Speaker 5: they got that hand on me and I jumped.
Speaker 2: But again place and I can. I could come back
Speaker 2: from this. You know, he's got a whole lot more
Speaker 2: to worry about because I just be.
Speaker 4: Geting better and better. Oh yeah, and then I did.
Speaker 4: I did the last a little event with a south
Speaker 4: chasing up clus which was another another good opportunity, another
Speaker 4: one that I'm greatful for.
Speaker 2: And yeah, whatever whatever comes. I did old somebody in
Speaker 2: the memorial the man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh no, Ramos Oh.
Speaker 5: I knew personally over ten years shut.
Speaker 2: Out having a woman and I gotta get it to
Speaker 2: him up on me. Uh definitely would have brought.
Speaker 5: Me. I shout out to him.
Speaker 2: Uh I get in the ring.
Speaker 1: Was that the one I missed that that happened recently?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was the one I think all because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 2: It was a it was a beautiful event.
Speaker 4: My daughter got the word to it, so it was
Speaker 4: it was something you know, another moment. Of course, time
Speaker 4: she comes to show, it's a blessing because you know
Speaker 4: she wasn't a big fan of wrestling in the beginning.
Speaker 2: But she's she started to make the way into it.
Speaker 2: She's she started to to open up.
Speaker 1: Okay, and she's her birthdays passed, right, Happy birthday, Uncle
Speaker 1: loves you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven now.
Speaker 1: Six okay seven seven? Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 4: Every moment we share together, it's an amazing moment of blessing.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. I don't take anything from the other.
Speaker 5: Yeah. It's gonna be interesting using next couple of.
Speaker 2: Months because I'm definitely working on the line, working on.
Speaker 5: Many, many different bills.
Speaker 4: Some of it I might be able to stress that
Speaker 4: I might not be able to sickly because we never can.
Speaker 4: We never want to look at left pay never the
Speaker 4: right hand is good, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 5: September I have.
Speaker 2: For the Heart. It's a to show fundraiser that's going
Speaker 2: to be happening out of Pennsylvane Little Girl.
Speaker 4: And waltad Bill. I don't know if I said right.
Speaker 4: That's another another big show that's going on. I'm in
Speaker 4: a taxing that and.
Speaker 2: Not only not Royal, but I'm anna taxing match. And
Speaker 2: it's going to be a very very personal for me
Speaker 2: because back in September when I made my.
Speaker 4: Return, because this very interesting person, very interesting character out
Speaker 4: of everybody that I start up.
Speaker 2: To right and staying and thinks this person said that's right.
Speaker 2: It goes by the name.
Speaker 5: Uh. I can't wait to get him ringing because he's gonna.
Speaker 2: He's been chopping it up and he's got.
Speaker 4: Some energy into his match and it's had some true words.
Speaker 2: Called me out a couple of times that happening, which
Speaker 2: because you know I'm trying, I'm trying to depict it.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to piece together and you know,
Speaker 2: uh one going up a gas.
Speaker 4: I've never faced him, watched him. I played close attention
Speaker 4: to him and was just about everybody else that's gotta
Speaker 4: be bad.
Speaker 5: And I'm also an a tax match.
Speaker 4: Hank is another guy that I have great respect for.
Speaker 4: His one of the best meats I've seen. And I
Speaker 4: get the face and and it's a it's an honor.
Speaker 4: But every second ring and all I knows out the
Speaker 4: window like anybody else that you know, I have great
Speaker 4: respect everybody in the business. Learning it's it's a little
Speaker 4: bit different.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh, Christian, everything you want to say, ask
Speaker 1: Alec camera here?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, first of all, hello, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: My name is Chris, and I was listening to your story.
Speaker 2: And you know what day I will say is that
Speaker 2: you're very smart. I like the fact that you're going.
Speaker 6: Through with the approach of learning the business, d of
Speaker 6: you know, being rested as opposed to just embracing you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying besides of you as.
Speaker 2: A character, because I really feel.
Speaker 6: That, especially in this day and age, you know, learning
Speaker 6: the business, that's certain. You know mechanics behind the way
Speaker 6: that an operation is run.
Speaker 2: You know that gives you more of an advantage of one.
Speaker 6: From one of the learning curves, and you will just
Speaker 6: kind of make me even being ahead of the game,
Speaker 6: as you said, you can't you know always sometimes just
Speaker 6: just as you don't know, let the left hand know
Speaker 6: what the right hand is doing, a lot of the
Speaker 6: people that are.
Speaker 2: In the business do the same.
Speaker 6: So sometimes, you know what I mean, when you're so
Speaker 6: souped now you say, oh, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: You're like like you think I got it, like you know,
Speaker 6: like I got it, I got it, I got it,
Speaker 6: And then all of.
Speaker 2: A sudden they throw you a curve boar, and then
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I don't got it, you know, and
Speaker 2: you're not.
Speaker 6: Prepared for it because you really can do your homework
Speaker 6: or think you had to do your book, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean.
Speaker 2: So then you're like kind of like stuck. And then
Speaker 2: it's like you know, you you you know, you're like, well,
Speaker 2: I thought, you know what I'm saying, this was the
Speaker 2: direct sum was going, but I'm not. I can't go
Speaker 2: that way now because of you know, whatever it is
Speaker 2: to happen. So that's a very smart approach on your
Speaker 2: you know, on how you're doing that. The question I
Speaker 2: have for you is as far as you know, as
Speaker 2: you say.
Speaker 6: That, you know, you're making a lot of your parents
Speaker 6: in certain places and you know, just learning certain.
Speaker 2: People and how they do and how they operate the
Speaker 2: business too. Are you networking with any like large names
Speaker 2: like you know, any like uh you know, like Jake
Speaker 2: Paul's anybody.
Speaker 6: Like that or anything anything like that that you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, that that comes to make it that
Speaker 6: do come to some of these manses, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean in terms of keeping your name out there
Speaker 6: and and you know, as you said, you know, making yourself.
Speaker 2: A little bit more. You know.
Speaker 5: No, that's the introverse.
Speaker 2: I was like any time, but I've not anyone that's
Speaker 2: you know, a large name or a big name in
Speaker 2: the business.
Speaker 4: You know, I tell them that, Hey, I'm I'm doing
Speaker 4: such and such.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't I don't try to make it
Speaker 2: a big deal, right, I.
Speaker 5: Just asked him some question.
Speaker 2: There's a certain feeling, right and you get.
Speaker 4: Out there, right, there's yountchout, whether you're getting food, whether
Speaker 4: you're winning or you're losing.
Speaker 2: There's a certain certain that I have to say where.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm not going out there for my personal
Speaker 7: self right out there this younger second uh any king right, and.
Speaker 4: I'm going up there to shirt head. So I always
Speaker 4: asked them, I said, hey, does that is that doing?
Speaker 2: Like that?
Speaker 5: That that war sense of accomplishment? That that twining in Russia.
Speaker 2: Just kicks in a thing after the management, It's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I just I just went ten to fifteen minutes in
Speaker 2: this way. You know, I walked in and I walked.
Speaker 5: Out at the same You know, I'm not hurt all
Speaker 5: the person hurt.
Speaker 2: We put on a bango, you know, we did what
Speaker 2: we did. Does that feel like saying?
Speaker 5: And I always get the same response, and it's always I.
Speaker 2: Never gets better.
Speaker 4: And these are guys that's twenty plus years unfortunate enough
Speaker 4: forget to that. It's just it's really not tamping with
Speaker 4: the branding. And really when you get around some of
Speaker 4: the bets that's been around ten between twenty years, and
Speaker 4: they tell you, like at the right mindset, just keeps
Speaker 4: that mindset.
Speaker 5: You don't take that, you don't take.
Speaker 2: That very likely.
Speaker 5: You take that to heart and on to that, and
Speaker 5: they just want to taking get me on this, taking.
Speaker 2: Get me on that. You know, one of the biggest
Speaker 2: teachers that I have, one of the biggest reasons why I'm.
Speaker 4: Even skilled in the business, my trainer and my report
Speaker 4: when you met me in first cooping up the boats and.
Speaker 2: Said, hey, you know, I'll take you long.
Speaker 4: He said, what on the interests? But we had it
Speaker 4: that such straight and within two weeks he hadn't running
Speaker 4: ropes correctly. When I got to him, I was running
Speaker 4: the ropes. I just wasn't running it correctly, and my
Speaker 4: back and my neck was felling it, my shoulders were
Speaker 4: failing it.
Speaker 8: You know, I was I didn't know what I was doing,
Speaker 8: and I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: His biggest thing that he always got in my head
Speaker 5: was consistency.
Speaker 2: And prior to about three four months ago.
Speaker 4: I didn't have I didn't have the consistency, I didn't
Speaker 4: have the other things, failing on my part to be
Speaker 4: consistent my king to him a couple of months ago.
Speaker 5: So there's some personal things and I was learning through
Speaker 5: and I said, listen, I said.
Speaker 2: Right now, this is all nothing I'm giving. I'm giving
Speaker 2: it all because there was no room for nothing. There's
Speaker 2: no room for failure. There's no room where anything.
Speaker 5: Other than success, other than one hundred.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. See what it is.
Speaker 5: And he's he's, without a doubt, the best.
Speaker 2: Thing to happen to me. And I would not be
Speaker 2: even on this world where I like, who knows where
Speaker 2: I'm going to be? Sis for that mm hmmm. And
Speaker 2: it's it's it's largely important due to him. You know,
Speaker 2: you understand seeing.
Speaker 4: You know, not so many guys would explain something something
Speaker 4: that I get it right away. It's how he delivers it,
Speaker 4: how he explains it, and he doesn't mind doing it.
Speaker 6: So does the element of surprise actually entice you to
Speaker 6: you know, want to push you know, because like you
Speaker 6: said again.
Speaker 2: Say but going does that battle? And sometimes as you
Speaker 2: say something you don't like, you won't allow where you
Speaker 2: won't I not Eve.
Speaker 6: Won't say won't allow you just you you prefer not
Speaker 6: to know and then you walk into you find that
Speaker 6: one has those situations or those you know what I'm saying. Whatever, Uh,
Speaker 6: you know, opportunities come upon you.
Speaker 2: Does that make you you know what I mean? Does that?
Speaker 1: Does they give you more of a of.
Speaker 5: How should I say? Does they give you more?
Speaker 2: So that you said because you want to push.
Speaker 6: Yourself, you know what I'm saying, it go harder, but
Speaker 6: you know, knowing obviously something you know I'm saying, you
Speaker 6: want to have a little bit knowledge that because you
Speaker 6: don't want to like walk into a trap or anything.
Speaker 6: So not knowing sometimes does that actually incite you to actually,
Speaker 6: you know, push harder, to do want to do more or.
Speaker 2: You if you just take it, like you said, as
Speaker 2: you ask you as it comes and then you learn
Speaker 2: from it and then you know it's on to the next. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean mean personally, I went into h I went
Speaker 2: into the Battle Royals Rowdies, which was my second to
Speaker 2: live show that I did, and I thought I was
Speaker 2: going to be in a Battle Royer.
Speaker 5: I was told, you know, enough time in advance.
Speaker 2: I go in there, all right, and I don't know
Speaker 2: whoe is. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Who's who's in it. So that was the first time
Speaker 5: when I sat back and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, great, I don't know there's any other time
Speaker 2: that I can image.
Speaker 4: We kind of announced or like not Eve whoever I
Speaker 4: was working for, announced we're placing this person this person.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 4: Enough when it came time, everybody hit hit that that hurting,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, I know this person, I know
Speaker 4: that person.
Speaker 5: I don't know this person. I've seen this person and
Speaker 5: I'm not supposed to step So now I gotta watch
Speaker 5: out the difference, you know, I got to watch out
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 2: Who's gonna run a by and trying to throw me
Speaker 2: out right away?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the element of surprise, I feel like still that's
Speaker 4: that's the thing that I have always trying to keep.
Speaker 2: There is very little in the Indy sing where things
Speaker 2: get out early. You know, It's not like what we
Speaker 2: see on TV now where what you.
Speaker 4: Know, dirt sheets and they you know, however, somebody's always
Speaker 4: leaking at something. Like I said, like when a return happens,
Speaker 4: I announce in your return, they announced the return.
Speaker 5: It's it's really it's the element of surprise. I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm thirty years old. I still like a
Speaker 5: surprise of the business.
Speaker 2: I still like, you know, not knowing who's gonna show up,
Speaker 2: who's you know.
Speaker 5: It makes it pup.
Speaker 6: I would say, you know, deeper into things and things
Speaker 6: that are rolling. I would make that too, consumers like.
Speaker 4: You know, my match being leaked and oh this person
Speaker 4: is going to go up, and you know, like the
Speaker 4: lumber Every year we see the lumber right.
Speaker 5: And nine times out of ten they get the last.
Speaker 2: Three people right. Out of those three people about sixty
Speaker 2: percent of the time, they never were winners. Ruins. The
Speaker 2: element of supplies. This year, this year it was like
Speaker 2: seeing it was seeing pup seen.
Speaker 5: It was neither.
Speaker 2: It was change.
Speaker 1: So that was an element.
Speaker 4: I appreciated that win mm hm. Mean we didn't enjoy
Speaker 4: an announcer. We didn't need anybody to really go to
Speaker 4: code versus romany.
Speaker 2: But it is what it was like. You know, we
Speaker 2: we got adjusted at the times. It's not like how
Speaker 2: it was an attitude. There wasn't like how it was
Speaker 2: in a.
Speaker 5: Suggression and we just gotta adjusted the time.
Speaker 2: To me, I think old school and for me, old
Speaker 2: school at my age was an attitude there, ruthless aggression.
Speaker 4: I think back to those times. I still like to
Speaker 4: bring that edge to it. I still like to bring
Speaker 4: that that that feeling into whenever I'm doing you know,
Speaker 4: I like that you style wrestling.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot of high high out of expense,
Speaker 2: a lot of that you know, attention to add himself.
Speaker 5: But mean personally, I like the people school. I will,
Speaker 5: I would like the people's.
Speaker 2: Well for me, I appreciate that because I'm kind of
Speaker 2: no school of god.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I used to like the era where you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and you as you've said, we're
Speaker 2: talking about like maybe like even dirty years ago.
Speaker 6: Where like remember when like the WWE or whatever, you know,
Speaker 6: when they had like so many wrestlers and every wrestler
Speaker 6: had like their.
Speaker 2: Own character, you know what I mean, and their own
Speaker 2: like you know, and there was so many things to
Speaker 2: choose from, you know, there was so many you know,
Speaker 2: you know, varieties like there was any I mean, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: burg like yeah, like cook wears, Yeah, like the Red
Speaker 2: broomstill stract like the Brutus, the Barbers, you know, the
Speaker 2: macho man, you know, ultimate warrior. You know, rex Louver.
Speaker 6: You know all kinds of you know, there was like
Speaker 6: all kinds of genres of everything, anything that you could
Speaker 6: possibly name.
Speaker 2: But the to them saying to smoke us of good
Speaker 2: day or you know events. You know, there was a
Speaker 2: character Forrest, and I feel.
Speaker 6: That today's wrestling I'm not and this no disrespect because
Speaker 6: obviously he represents today. But the fact that you have
Speaker 6: that that you you know, that you keep that old
Speaker 6: school I want to call it plane that you still
Speaker 6: have that. I feel that that's necessary because there's a
Speaker 6: lot that can be learned from.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying those times, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying to build up to.
Speaker 6: Now and no, like I said, I'm not you know,
Speaker 6: trying to crap one, you know, the rest of us today,
Speaker 6: because I understand that with evolution and time.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, there's all it's going to
Speaker 2: be a change and the shift.
Speaker 6: But also you know, history does repeat itself and sometimes
Speaker 6: in some form of fashion, it has a way of
Speaker 6: scorning back.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying to you know where it
Speaker 2: started from or you know what I'm saying, as it
Speaker 2: has you know, evolved from that time period. So you know,
Speaker 2: what I mean, it's good that you know, maybe that's
Speaker 2: you'll ask me, that's a good thing that maybe you
Speaker 2: can you know, draw.
Speaker 6: Parallelisms from the old to the new and maybe even
Speaker 6: teach some of the newcomers.
Speaker 2: That are coming out and I'm staying a little something
Speaker 2: so that they can embrace it as well. So I
Speaker 2: think that that's something that that's a that's a very
Speaker 2: strong or another one of the strong factorist excess who
Speaker 2: would want to hold because you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: having an understanding and and.
Speaker 5: And embracing those that errors, those errors, you.
Speaker 2: Know what i mean, it's really really uh you know
Speaker 2: what that all of that took place so.
Speaker 6: That today could actually be you know, exact, you know,
Speaker 6: and I feel that sometimes that you know, all of
Speaker 6: the rest of you know, with pro John a lot
Speaker 6: of things.
Speaker 2: You know, the younger joys want to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, well this is the way now, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, The only way is not the way,
Speaker 2: you know whatever, and then it's like, you know, when
Speaker 2: you don't pay homage to uh, things that have taken
Speaker 2: place to put you in a position to where.
Speaker 6: You are today, you tend to you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: divert from the uh you know sometimes that you know,
Speaker 6: the main you know, main pieces that are very very important,
Speaker 6: and I feel that sometimes that maybe that's why some
Speaker 6: people were from you know, uh just decide to bear
Speaker 6: off and say, well, maybe it's not fitting because you know,
Speaker 6: with the notion that they had to start with, they
Speaker 6: wanted to go with that mean that you know, you know,
Speaker 6: of the days of today. And maybe because they don't
Speaker 6: have you known saying that piece, but they don't ask somebody.
Speaker 2: That either thought that to them or have it's made
Speaker 2: so that they can understand it, they kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: veer off from the the you know, whatever it is
Speaker 2: that they want to put out there. And maybe they
Speaker 2: seem different. But what I told you, the fact that
Speaker 2: you're actually learning the business side to.
Speaker 6: It, I think that's gonna that's definitely and I'm pretty
Speaker 6: sure that they see that for yourself. It's gonna help
Speaker 6: you understand you I'm saying both sides of the rank,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, the master.
Speaker 2: Decide and the active side that you gain a part
Speaker 2: of it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I have a question, So do you think your
Speaker 1: mindset that you have alec hammer. Do you think that
Speaker 1: it differentiates you from the rest of the from everybody else?
Speaker 1: Pretty much?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll say right, and it's it's not a
Speaker 2: big one anybody. It's not what if anybody ever takes
Speaker 2: anything that I say the wrong way? Right? One grow up.
Speaker 5: My point of view, right, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Now the way I go out right, it's I hied
Speaker 2: to wrestler, right. I work with stadiums and owns, right,
Speaker 2: and you know, I see the countless meetings up side
Speaker 2: on the countless different setups for events. You know, I've
Speaker 2: got with it all concerts, NCC title game, for college basketball,
Speaker 2: I sat in the playoffs, you know.
Speaker 5: And then one thing I always always events to or always.
Speaker 2: Thought about because this person has one. I deal with
Speaker 2: the heathery doing right, like we don't know what the
Speaker 2: hell they're doing.
Speaker 4: Right, We're this going off the what informational with details
Speaker 4: facts where you know, we got to do our research
Speaker 4: right A lot of the times, right, I'm go into
Speaker 4: you know, negotiations for the show.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, I'm gonna in a X doll z
Speaker 2: bla blah.
Speaker 5: Set.
Speaker 2: Right. Another one thing I go to right.
Speaker 5: And say this much about you know, the financial side
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 2: How negotiate with anywhere? Prepare right, because the first time,
Speaker 2: it's only going to get better at each and every time.
Speaker 4: Right, the first opportunity I got to manage to seem
Speaker 4: right sided an any view, And I said, listen, give
Speaker 4: me one year, right, and I promise you the one
Speaker 4: where right every.
Speaker 5: Month we see a gradual, a gradual increase.
Speaker 4: Productivity. Shoot, I got told us to say that, right,
Speaker 4: that happened, cursed off? Make me the first month right.
Speaker 4: Not only was my floor we us flooring cells right,
Speaker 4: but we had a hundred percent attendant where work is
Speaker 4: coming in right? Why because I knew how to talk
Speaker 4: to people.
Speaker 2: I knew how to wait to people. Right. The sorrier
Speaker 2: is right. We all come from something, right. We all
Speaker 2: come from somewhere, from something right. At the end of
Speaker 2: the day, right when we put.
Speaker 5: Our time and our energy and our ethnic insult right
Speaker 5: matters right. Some of us have family, some of us
Speaker 5: have kids, some of us have stuff. We're taking care
Speaker 5: of the family that we're doing this, were doing that.
Speaker 5: We We got so much going on, right, But you
Speaker 5: take the time out to handle.
Speaker 4: Our responsibilities about responsibility outside of life, the different.
Speaker 5: Abilities and the remembering things.
Speaker 2: I want to put up a story, right. I want
Speaker 2: something with substance. I want something to meaning, not only that.
Speaker 4: The person I'm starting, of.
Speaker 2: Course, even gonna.
Speaker 4: We're gonna beat the living ship out of each other.
Speaker 4: There's a small outside the person to walk out.
Speaker 2: Just actually came only because I can't see the person.
Speaker 2: You get hurt, you know. I want to beat the
Speaker 2: sun out of it. I want to beat them to a.
Speaker 4: Point where they can still let out out the answers.
Speaker 4: I had to take great, great, great pride of that.
Speaker 5: And I hope that.
Speaker 2: Answers a question because you know, when it comes down
Speaker 2: to it, it's an art. It's a sport. As you say,
Speaker 2: you know what it is. No is is a business.
Speaker 2: You got to know how to talk to people. I
Speaker 2: don't know how to work with people.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You might need it. You go do with it is
Speaker 2: what it is. You know, I gotta do it for
Speaker 2: an hour. You know, if we go out there and
Speaker 2: go on the show, I want.
Speaker 4: To do with you for an hour.
Speaker 2: You know what it is, what it is.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not the first, even though I'm not,
Speaker 4: it's not to be the last. It's not you know,
Speaker 4: And I take I take great part in it because
Speaker 4: I loved what I do. You know, I loved it
Speaker 4: since I was a kid. I grew up watching wrestle
Speaker 4: my dad and my older brothers.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Shoot, even my little sisters have the stories.
Speaker 2: And the one time I church, she gave.
Speaker 4: Me out of cancer three you know, probably not the
Speaker 4: best big books so to tell, but she learnt how
Speaker 4: to cant threafter that.
Speaker 2: So I just I look at him as a business.
Speaker 2: I have a small business owner. You know, Alean camer
Speaker 2: was technically a business.
Speaker 5: So I have to.
Speaker 2: Present myself myself.
Speaker 5: You know, I gotta be a professional, you know, I gotta.
Speaker 4: I gotta embrace whatever store moment. And I think mostly part,
Speaker 4: you know, his spe work experience I didn't teach.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna like every day that I do.
Speaker 5: I'm not, you know, that's just like, but I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be pro professional and general pretent.
Speaker 1: You can testify, yeah, I definitely can. Okay, But but
Speaker 1: but one of my listeners is text me a question
Speaker 1: just now as I am recording. I'm trying to stay
Speaker 1: alive here in my ass bus right now. H This
Speaker 1: person asked me, so, is there like anyone, not anyone.
Speaker 1: Is there any promotion I'm paraphrasing here because the grandma errors,
Speaker 1: But is there any promotion that you're not Would you
Speaker 1: turn down a book from promotion?
Speaker 2: And why?
Speaker 1: I guess it's the question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying this right, Penny. Any circumstance, depending the promotion,
Speaker 2: A lot of yeah, I got down really just swept
Speaker 2: it so.
Speaker 5: Ah, and it's not it's not a big one.
Speaker 2: And the past promotion around that.
Speaker 5: Way it was actually been like my time never been appreciate.
Speaker 2: Work is goodness for what it was, right and then
Speaker 2: everybody can pretty much to it. I don't have to say.
Speaker 2: And if you don't know, then it's not like even know,
Speaker 2: but I will. I would say that that's probably the
Speaker 2: one not sure that I wanted. I would have work
Speaker 2: just because what was it was done? You know, my
Speaker 2: my my histories written, where I got was, where I
Speaker 2: was it was going to be, and that that was
Speaker 2: that time I heard. You know, I don't believe in
Speaker 2: completely bading bridgements and life, and there was no bridge burnt.
Speaker 2: It's just my story is O. You know, there was
Speaker 2: no need to go on and.
Speaker 5: It's time for other people to step up.
Speaker 4: And enjoy that spot like and get that opportunity to
Speaker 4: get their ups and get get their attention, you know,
Speaker 4: get their brand out.
Speaker 1: Okay, So like the morning that's you have, you have
Speaker 1: all these bookings coming up right, some of the mess,
Speaker 1: you know, something that you don't know what to look
Speaker 1: forward to, like regardless of what you have upcoming right,
Speaker 1: Like anybody in particular that you that you I want
Speaker 1: to face, whether personal grudge reasons or just for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: any PERSONA recites on.
Speaker 2: People. I hope he used this too. I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: sure that no ramos as I don't know. Then the
Speaker 2: I chopped you know what I mean? Guys said out
Speaker 2: another guy's bar.
Speaker 10: Uh, another guy that I'm laying for years. You know,
Speaker 10: another guy that I think pushed me with winning this business.
Speaker 10: You know, I give I give him, I give him
Speaker 10: a word of you. I mean, I would be honored
Speaker 10: to shugar ing with him again.
Speaker 2: And we did have a.
Speaker 4: Short match. I wasn't a hundred percent and it was
Speaker 4: so now I'm a one hundred percent. So let's let's
Speaker 4: let's get that down the business business. That one guy
Speaker 4: you know I'm definitely want to face makes a college.
Speaker 2: Again I feel like my story is that when I'm done,
Speaker 2: not even at.
Speaker 4: The least, and next time, I'm just spending ten times
Speaker 4: because I.
Speaker 5: Took it right when I wasn't. I wasn't I wasn't
Speaker 5: thinking correct with.
Speaker 2: You, and you know, it is what it is. We
Speaker 2: learned from that.
Speaker 4: But these are Listen, guys, I can I can go
Speaker 4: on for hours. You know, guys that I'm going to face,
Speaker 4: guys that I'm gonna shoot the room. If I'm fortunate
Speaker 4: enough to do it, I can do it.
Speaker 2: You know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: You know, can you do what I can? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: real quick, there's me some plugs real quick. Hello, you know,
Speaker 1: got Alex Hammer there, I'm here. Yeah, I say, real quick,
Speaker 1: give me some give me some plugs real quick. I
Speaker 1: think you have to play matches. But other than that,
Speaker 1: that's pretty much.
Speaker 2: It's pretty much.
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to August. I got I got King wrestling,
Speaker 4: I don't kill. That's gonna be uh very very interesting.
Speaker 2: Uh. I can't give out any details, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know the details. Look accord to that. I got
Speaker 2: a fight for the Heart, which is fund raised the
Speaker 2: American harm Association. Uh as I stayed in earlier. I'm
Speaker 2: in the taxi match taking on I don't know which
Speaker 2: is gonna be very interesting. Sorts, sweats, I got back
Speaker 2: you Burg, Underground wrestling, little player of Sleep. I beg
Speaker 2: the details, right Even if I did, I probably gonna
Speaker 2: go out say everything. Then it should be a big light.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking for There's a lot of more upset
Speaker 2: that I I'm just I'm not in the clear to
Speaker 2: sustain it.
Speaker 5: Say anything is being.
Speaker 2: To playing, you know, personnel for many different reasons. Why
Speaker 2: I can say anything that i'd rather you know, I
Speaker 2: always like I don't like the talk I got so.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, how how can we how can how can
Speaker 1: we like further support you personally? Do you have like
Speaker 1: a merch line or something like that, like how do
Speaker 1: you how can you support It's like come to your
Speaker 1: matches of course.
Speaker 4: Way down they just anybody can do to support me
Speaker 4: is come to the shows. I'm I'm working at some merch.
Speaker 5: I will have some merch.
Speaker 2: Couple weeks just working on Spider, you know, small little
Speaker 2: teators to.
Speaker 5: Really just trying to make the best possible merch.
Speaker 2: Because I want people to wear the car.
Speaker 4: I want people to you know, you're spending the art
Speaker 4: on the money on mesh that imself, I wanted to
Speaker 4: look at best.
Speaker 2: It's best. I want you to. If you're just wearing
Speaker 2: into shows, I want you to. We're going to the
Speaker 2: gym and you're just I want you to wear, you know.
Speaker 5: So that's the biggest thing for me right now.
Speaker 4: It's just just making sure that everything that I do
Speaker 4: with hundred percent, I don't I'm not cutting any corners.
Speaker 2: I'm not you know, looking at an easy way to
Speaker 2: do things.
Speaker 5: So that's that's something to the outside.
Speaker 1: Okay, where care fally w.
Speaker 2: Oh so, good question.
Speaker 6: So I am on X.
Speaker 5: It's very sithing. That's at Alec Hallen on x slash.
Speaker 2: You know from a Namasto. On Instagram it is.
Speaker 4: Alex Soy Aleck cam Or Wrestling. I even have a
Speaker 4: time page, which again I barely use, but I'm trying
Speaker 4: to put out as much stuff as possible.
Speaker 2: That is also Alexander on tick Time Threads Alcando Wrestling.
Speaker 4: Of course, I also have a Facebook page for Alaxander,
Speaker 4: but then I also have a personal professional page made
Speaker 4: for Alexander.
Speaker 5: Just because I'm trying to a couple of bass.
Speaker 2: And me almost a YouTube working on working on so
Speaker 2: many things I'm going to possibly do, be doing a
Speaker 2: blog scene, whether it's.
Speaker 4: You know Jim Days, it's going to shows, just to
Speaker 4: give people a behind the sues local who all cameras.
Speaker 4: You know, most of the time, I'm a bad guy
Speaker 4: most of the time, you know, in between this.
Speaker 2: Unhange crazy guy who you know, we don't know whether
Speaker 2: they care M the body nine times other time we're food.
Speaker 5: But I love it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, if you want to follow me on soon.
Speaker 4: It was also our camera. I try to keep this,
Speaker 4: you know a camera is uh, it's it's a tribute.
Speaker 2: To paying college to my late father.
Speaker 4: Yeah, next Sunday will make fifteen years since the postil And.
Speaker 2: So that was my that was my moment when I
Speaker 2: came up with the wating to to really look at
Speaker 2: something and uh.
Speaker 5: Bring that's not because of the people that Alex funny Alex.
Speaker 2: Because Alex, but you know that that was that was
Speaker 2: my thinking.
Speaker 4: I was being a proud son to a great man,
Speaker 4: a great father, and I I he would not he
Speaker 4: would not approve of it. Whoever wanted he had his name,
Speaker 4: and there were great reasons. But I think I'm doing
Speaker 4: addressed this live my father of my German at the
Speaker 4: same time paying about of respects to him.
Speaker 1: Okay, Chris, one of the wise called Alec Hammer. Wife
Speaker 1: called the Hammer.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess, okay, first name and the story
Speaker 2: is over thirty years and you know, I guess it
Speaker 2: doesn't even die at my time anywhere.
Speaker 5: The Hammer it was my dad's nigga right then said Hamerton.
Speaker 8: Land show shirt cad driver, right, and then it has
Speaker 8: to be he didn't I appear the you know, I
Speaker 8: just want to work that doesn't working there. So one
Speaker 8: time my dad, he was just picking up a call.
Speaker 5: Guy comes in the basically states that, hey.
Speaker 2: I'm going to lob him.
Speaker 5: Now, staring my plants.
Speaker 4: Referent than the actress story because my dad probably never
Speaker 4: wants a scene at the monsters.
Speaker 2: But we messed the guy up pretty bad. He yeah,
Speaker 2: and the story trot around. Obviously my dad when.
Speaker 5: As charge because the guy tried to rob the.
Speaker 4: People die it pretty bad. So when the guy dropped
Speaker 4: his gun and his money, you know, and yeah, he
Speaker 4: definitely learned that we cannot try to rob the Vietnam
Speaker 4: back he was he was older, you know, my dad
Speaker 4: was older, and you weren't gonna get away.
Speaker 2: Like that, and we'll definitely talk that lesson. And you know,
Speaker 2: I take pretty pride of who my father was. My
Speaker 2: father was, you know, somebody that I was signed to be.
Speaker 4: Like every day he was in my herald, and I
Speaker 4: hope that you know the views and his name and
Speaker 4: the name of the story in the background and sharing.
Speaker 2: It sometimes which is a very public so a lot
Speaker 2: of them. Now, yeah, I take pride of who he was.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not a story that anybody can tell
Speaker 4: me that I wouldn't sa BacT And so just right
Speaker 4: back to my dad.
Speaker 1: M hm, yeah, okay, okay, Christy, if you want.
Speaker 2: To ask, well, I won't that wrong to tell you that,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously think shout out to your father, you
Speaker 2: know recipes. I mean, because I'm a very in myself.
Speaker 6: So definitely, you know, to be anybody that uh, you know,
Speaker 6: it doesn't take you know, crap from anybody, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean. Like I said that, sometimes you know
Speaker 2: the world we need to you know, people need to
Speaker 2: be taught to, you know, might have to respect, you know,
Speaker 2: the elders and stuff. And even as I was.
Speaker 6: Telling you before, when we were discussing you know, as
Speaker 6: like you know, when I was saying that, you know,
Speaker 6: like resting from the years from uh of the of yester.
Speaker 6: Yet you don't have to now, you know, as far
Speaker 6: as paying homage to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Those that have paved the way. But uh, I feel
Speaker 2: that you know that you you have a very good
Speaker 2: sense of balance. You're thirty years old, as you say,
Speaker 2: so I have for me, it seems like with your
Speaker 2: age you're like right in the middle of both.
Speaker 9: You know, you're like or on the couse of the
Speaker 9: new school, and you have a sense of respect that
Speaker 9: you you know what I mean that you do respect
Speaker 9: the old school as well, and a person like you
Speaker 9: could definitely.
Speaker 6: You know, be a game changer through a lot of things,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, you know, to be just wrestling,
Speaker 6: but whatever else that you decide.
Speaker 2: To mix your hands up with, you know, I'm pretty.
Speaker 6: Sure that you're gonna do well with it because, as
Speaker 6: you said, you know, you also have an understanding of
Speaker 6: how to deal with people too.
Speaker 1: You know, whether they're whether.
Speaker 2: They're nice, whether they're nasty, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2: And sometimes with communication it's a case you know, it's
Speaker 2: a thing where when you're dealing with a person that doesn't.
Speaker 5: Understand you, then it becomes more of a.
Speaker 2: Conflict because they don't understand.
Speaker 6: But worst they get to know you better and understand
Speaker 6: how you operate, then you know, it become so reasonable understanding.
Speaker 5: And that's that is important.
Speaker 6: You know, in terms of this business aspect, that you
Speaker 6: stand on your own too, because you know, you stand
Speaker 6: for something, you report for anything.
Speaker 2: You know. So if a person just ask you accept
Speaker 2: everybody else and you learn from them, they can do
Speaker 2: the same for you too. So make sure you teach that.
Speaker 6: Not that you need me to tell you this, but
Speaker 6: I ain't telling it to you because I have twenty
Speaker 6: two years to say. So you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You you, whatever you stand on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You say and and and and you you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, and let that be.
Speaker 5: That's who you are.
Speaker 2: So very nice. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: grew up in a time.
Speaker 6: Where you know, when you talk to respect our elders,
Speaker 6: you know, that was that was like number one.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: It was a time where you know, guy up the
Speaker 4: block might know your mom, might know your dad, might
Speaker 4: know your grandmother.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely, especially me mean Christmas in the West Indies.
Speaker 1: So like like if you if you get in trouble
Speaker 1: on the street, right, like they don't, they're gonna tell
Speaker 1: your mom or your dad before you get home. When
Speaker 1: we get home, you're gonna get licks.
Speaker 2: I mean when I was at the same way, it
Speaker 2: was like, shoot, I didn't I didn't see kids did slot.
Speaker 2: He was like, Yo, I'm gonna tell your mother that
Speaker 2: I shot. And then.
Speaker 1: Again I remember one time I was at one time
Speaker 1: I was at church, right and like one of the
Speaker 1: one of the women, right, older woman south of Sicilina,
Speaker 1: and she asked me, hey, hey, son, how you doing
Speaker 1: behaving myself? And so I'm being I mean, I'm being
Speaker 1: all with funny. I'm like, no, what you might keep
Speaker 1: it looking at right this dad and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I remember one time. I remember one time,
Speaker 1: like in the fifth grade, right, uh, this kid like uh,
Speaker 1: the teacher called his dad and the dad came from
Speaker 1: wherever he was to the school. He said, yo, welcome
Speaker 1: yo here right now, right, and then like then on
Speaker 1: he went outside in the hallway and I forget some
Speaker 1: time passed, I forgot all about that ship. And he
Speaker 1: came back to sobbing. I'm sorry, miss Phelps, and I
Speaker 1: won't be just against so yeah, I think we missed
Speaker 1: some of that. So that's a whole other thing. But
Speaker 1: speaking of no no kids coming up and elders, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just just pugged my head right.
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Like, how did you feel that your daughter was a wrestler?
Speaker 1: I know she's only seven? How would you feel if
Speaker 1: she was a wrestler or want to pursue wrestling?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, is there a reason why as a.
Speaker 2: As a father always want your kids to do better? Uh? Huh?
Speaker 4: Now I mean my father, right, I might not be
Speaker 4: the exactly those are very shoes to film right in,
Speaker 4: times are much much better.
Speaker 2: I just I was a girl. She was a girl.
Speaker 2: She's got what I went for her. I'm better than
Speaker 2: I ever want, you know. I see it sometimes, you know.
Speaker 2: I hear her talk sometimes, you know, but gosh, I'm
Speaker 2: getting a response just saying I'm doing sgnificant her eyes.
Speaker 5: Whenever she does something that I say, I'll call you
Speaker 5: or it means the world.
Speaker 2: And I tell her all the time, if you choose
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 5: A wrestling I might not agree it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Great at it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna say that what she really wants to be
Speaker 1: a wrestler, Like.
Speaker 2: I mean I would, I would, I would take the
Speaker 2: time to teach her.
Speaker 4: And you know, whether I get car or not, you know,
Speaker 4: that's something that really really ends up being something that
Speaker 4: she wants to do.
Speaker 5: As much as I go on, I want to act
Speaker 5: what creation.
Speaker 2: She's you know, and then sud.
Speaker 5: I just feel like she's keeping to way much more.
Speaker 2: You know, I doubt for one second my father ever thought.
Speaker 5: Like, oh I was gonna be wrestling. You know, when
Speaker 5: he came to athletics, I wasn't the best.
Speaker 2: I wasn't you know. I was good. I was good
Speaker 2: at baseball, I was great. You know.
Speaker 4: I never got the pure opportunities to really sell out
Speaker 4: of there and show my that was pretty decent at
Speaker 4: it when my father always used to tell the sports
Speaker 4: is what's your thing? And all these years later, sorry
Speaker 4: said that I had little while you know, his his
Speaker 4: idea for me was the military. You know, it was
Speaker 4: the third option table. It was like and if you
Speaker 4: don't do the other two way you allowed to do with.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about my daughter right and likes to
Speaker 1: be like real Ripley that's like a favorite wrestler. And
Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, I put her mom think
Speaker 1: and if she's gonna be a wrestler, she grows up
Speaker 1: and she's like no and stuff like that. So she
Speaker 1: and so what if she wants Okay, And then sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm talking around, I'll be like, pack your bags, Karro
Speaker 1: going to rustling in school? Yeah, hey, so next never know,
Speaker 1: the next, the next one. Let me see fifteen years,
Speaker 1: never know, you might see.
Speaker 4: I'll see this right, my niece what she was about say,
Speaker 4: I started taking into my wrestling.
Speaker 2: Shops right, and she got.
Speaker 6: My sister.
Speaker 4: Right, and.
Speaker 2: My my niece d turn.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna train, I'm gonna go to the next team.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna become champion. H I told her now that.
Speaker 5: I know what I like wrestling. That was cool, But
Speaker 5: she did she didn't anything.
Speaker 2: Have everyone in the family believe it that I introduced
Speaker 2: her the wrestler, that she was going to go off
Speaker 2: and do it, and she didn't. But I just think
Speaker 2: about when my daughter says it, I take it, I
Speaker 2: take it, I take it to heart.
Speaker 5: Took it. But she really does show her adelitude like.
Speaker 2: Like a that and her mom. I will get her
Speaker 2: mom in credit.
Speaker 5: To and she said she's gonna do something, She's.
Speaker 4: Gonna dig I'm just hoping that she really sticks to
Speaker 4: her initial gain and when she was really little and
Speaker 4: she says, I'm going to be a doctor, and.
Speaker 2: I hope she says rather than wrestling. I love the business.
Speaker 5: I love what it is.
Speaker 2: I just I don't want to put it.
Speaker 1: I well, what do you well? What why not like?
Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, obviously the answer is there,
Speaker 1: but what particular? Why particular those who want her to be.
Speaker 2: In it's it stands from a lot of you know,
Speaker 2: it stands lanty, it takes about it.
Speaker 4: Nobody talks about it right, And I'm glad that this
Speaker 4: month is a month where people do with pronolergen. But
Speaker 4: what I'm going to get into and we got into
Speaker 4: this the very first time I did the podcast. Nobody
Speaker 4: talks about the mental side wrest and I'm just I
Speaker 4: don't know about.
Speaker 2: Anybody else, but it takes a lot to get into
Speaker 2: an I'm not al camders very well, do you have
Speaker 2: a piece of my personal self back? But Ala Kander
Speaker 2: was something that.
Speaker 5: Ye I didn't acknowledge for a lot of time, but
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 4: It is something that I created in my mind a
Speaker 4: long time and the both sounds quart of crazy, but
Speaker 4: it's it's a it's a huge different personality about.
Speaker 2: On a days of shows, I disassociated with everything who
Speaker 2: I am as a person.
Speaker 4: Well, I just disassociated. You know, some people get it,
Speaker 4: some people try. But the mental side of it was
Speaker 4: something you know, you're going through this times you don't
Speaker 4: feel like you're good enough, you know, feel like you
Speaker 4: know you get into the fans misses and the way
Speaker 4: Slash Slasha books.
Speaker 2: Needed her, she didn't know who she was. She also
Speaker 2: she want she was because of wrestlings. You have to
Speaker 2: be this person once you get to that shirt first.
Speaker 2: More than we are.
Speaker 5: What you said, I don't have mental prands are on it.
Speaker 4: You know, I love her more than anything on this
Speaker 4: on this head. Would be disheartening to know that she
Speaker 4: doesn't feel I'm obvious reason and I'm going to state
Speaker 4: this and I'm.
Speaker 5: Going to because.
Speaker 2: It's a very thing with some of these state fans.
Speaker 4: Right, they tend to get into the personal lives of
Speaker 4: a female wrestlers.
Speaker 2: Right, women wrestlers right. And that's the part is because
Speaker 2: how only am my father to a daughter.
Speaker 4: Right, I am a brother's I'm a brother to sisters,
Speaker 4: I'm an opportunities, I'm a son to a mother. Right,
Speaker 4: I'm a nephew to aunts.
Speaker 2: Right when just because every well just because hot they
Speaker 2: want whatever it is right not? Did you guys go right? Right?
Speaker 2: And I hope I hope this goes viral and.
Speaker 4: Anything say ever about like the rest of right. Do
Speaker 4: not give anybody the right to start them. It's not
Speaker 4: given the right to treat and like whatever it is
Speaker 4: as a sexual object.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: Quite honestly, you would send me through the group and
Speaker 2: I found out that my I don't care how old.
Speaker 4: You gets, if that was somebody in my family, trust
Speaker 4: and believe, I don't care how much of a super.
Speaker 2: Thing that you're not. You're not going to be that.
Speaker 5: Luck when you want to.
Speaker 2: And I was standing on that sword, and I would throw.
Speaker 5: Myself through that sword to keep that.
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't got to be protective without
Speaker 4: this or anything like. It's that's the side of the business,
Speaker 4: you know. It's it's how how personal gets. Sometimes it's
Speaker 4: just it's it's not.
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Speaker 1: All right, there's no excuse. Remember remember patching the Chryst
Speaker 1: Dark Side of Ring and it was on Chris ben
Speaker 1: Wat and I think a very interesting point. She was like,
Speaker 1: Chris doesn't really have an excuse because he was surrounded
Speaker 1: by people who loved him. He could have got help,
Speaker 1: and saying so, yeah, as far as the mental health
Speaker 1: aspect goes of it that we've intended today, just want
Speaker 1: to t.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say this right some sas it's rought up
Speaker 4: and I mean I'm sleeping comfort from a personal snipper.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to get into too many themselves again, right,
Speaker 4: And we've talked about this personally.
Speaker 5: It was value disgusting, viral age just.
Speaker 2: Even what right, anyone will rigged right, that's not living.
Speaker 4: In that personal shoes, right. I cannot say because you
Speaker 4: gotta understand.
Speaker 2: Right, mention health. Everybody mention health literally can you get you?
Speaker 2: The past leaves you down places I myself have battled
Speaker 2: through mental health issues. News.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to go into hotel when you're talk plays.
Speaker 2: And there is no sign of any light.
Speaker 5: When matter who's.
Speaker 2: Around you, it does not matter.
Speaker 5: It does not matter.
Speaker 4: It's all about you. And what he did was terrible,
Speaker 4: it was disgusting. But I would say this when it
Speaker 4: comes to mental health, right, it was very important.
Speaker 5: It right for me.
Speaker 2: You don't feel like yourself talk to I tell people
Speaker 2: all the time about my phone is open, my phone.
Speaker 5: Is open, my DMS are open, you're seeing me at
Speaker 5: a show.
Speaker 4: I talk say you know I've lost somebody, you know,
Speaker 4: not a beagles about where I'm sored? Where will it's
Speaker 4: not like what that looks.
Speaker 2: You know eat type of people that have to be
Speaker 2: all you know.
Speaker 5: Or in that case, it's always.
Speaker 2: Hard to supers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm dealing with myself. And that's why I
Speaker 4: felt we can't say that. We can't say that over
Speaker 4: time where it's like hat, you know I was saying,
Speaker 4: or you know, a lot of good person comes to
Speaker 4: me sometimes goingsome going some person who.
Speaker 2: Way more difficult than what they're doing. That's emerging voice.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad.
Speaker 6: I'm happy that you said that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: because you hit all the nails right on on, you know,
Speaker 6: where they.
Speaker 5: Needed to be.
Speaker 2: Because as you said, everybody could judge and say that,
Speaker 2: you know, all the videos, she could have done this
Speaker 2: and that the other. But if you're not, you know,
Speaker 2: if you don't.
Speaker 6: Feel exactly what those people who are going through at
Speaker 6: that particular moment, and everybody you know accepts, you know,
Speaker 6: what their their feelings are, you know, in different ways.
Speaker 2: Some people, like you said, they need the self restrict
Speaker 2: them more upon themselves. Some people taking out on other people,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Some people will just you
Speaker 2: know kind of you know who knows, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 6: So that's the thing that mental health is trucking. So
Speaker 6: to say here you do need an outlet of some sort.
Speaker 6: But you know what I'm saying, to judge what a
Speaker 6: person yes, which you know, hearing.
Speaker 2: What happened to him to get er me was very
Speaker 2: very you know tragic, and an obviously took it out.
Speaker 2: It was white for his powers to put back.
Speaker 6: But for somebody to even have that fathom those kind
Speaker 6: of thoughts, they're.
Speaker 5: Going to be really, really in a bad place, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean. And as you said, some of them
Speaker 2: are not very, very articulate enough.
Speaker 5: To go hey and express themselves.
Speaker 6: So unfortunately, and you minx that with you know, a
Speaker 6: ton of other things you as you said, you know,
Speaker 6: the person of being a superstar, you.
Speaker 2: Know, god knows whatever. Other you know, I'm saying performance,
Speaker 2: advanced substances that he was taking, and a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of other stuff. That's like a walking but people, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's a walking anything.
Speaker 4: And I say this too, right, and it's not uh,
Speaker 4: it's not to make it right. It's not what you
Speaker 4: don't understand, right, it's it's a very stricken thing with
Speaker 4: mental because sometimes, right, you get those.
Speaker 2: People who don't even know what they're going for.
Speaker 6: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: To him, it was just a pecial It could have
Speaker 2: been anything. But a lot of the times people don't
Speaker 2: know what they're going to it. You know, it's not
Speaker 2: until you know it's it's it's a very it's I'm
Speaker 2: speaking from the question scamp now and where I'm doing
Speaker 2: in my body. You know, you sometimes you feel like
Speaker 2: the went to a person is just gonna want to
Speaker 2: make a tective with all people. But he was people,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe it.
Speaker 4: Was a chair shots, maybe he was maybe he was
Speaker 4: maybe he was just people sad. People are taken him yea,
Speaker 4: and make an excuse for what he did, like he
Speaker 4: could have just been it to himself. Yes, but I
Speaker 4: feel like everything also at the same time, and it
Speaker 4: might sound that at the same time, that God is.
Speaker 5: Everything the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2: I'm a big believe in God.
Speaker 4: I'm not the biggest religious person. I'm not the biggest,
Speaker 4: but I believe in God. I believe in God one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. Everything happens for the los and.
Speaker 2: This has happening one we feel.
Speaker 5: What we feel in moments is the reason why we
Speaker 5: can see things happen.
Speaker 2: We can happen. It's you have that belief and higher being.
Speaker 4: Whoever you decide, whatever religion, whatever it is, you have
Speaker 4: to understand that our time are are anything, you.
Speaker 2: Know, experiences that people know they're going to go. Well,
Speaker 2: it's normous knowing the things that high poll it, so like.
Speaker 6: Maybe that was just how it was written, you know,
Speaker 6: And and it sounds.
Speaker 1: Crazy and people are.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 4: You know, I can say things and I'll say you know,
Speaker 4: it's a very touchy subject and it was unfortunate for me.
Speaker 5: He was one of my favorite wrestlings.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think about it, I'm like some
Speaker 2: real kids. I think at the time when I happened
Speaker 2: and it was just starting, it was like I couldn't.
Speaker 5: Watch his matches. Yeah, you know, I kind of appreciate
Speaker 5: the Batman I grew up watching.
Speaker 6: It was hard, but it was disgusting. It was you know,
Speaker 6: now myself in the business, I have to.
Speaker 2: Someone protect myself and protect others, you know, because there
Speaker 2: are signs, there are probably public signs of nobody took
Speaker 2: it to.
Speaker 5: To position.
Speaker 2: You know. One of one of my favorite football players,
Speaker 2: blind Dog Ju said, watch watched the baby. It was
Speaker 2: like spin st shows and they talked about in his
Speaker 2: family like his daughter was like he was the sweetest
Speaker 2: love guy that that there was this dark side where
Speaker 2: he would.
Speaker 5: Just switch and I was just like, whoa.
Speaker 4: You know, and men are where you know, Henry Joys,
Speaker 4: you know, DT definitely dance that's nothing to.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You look at the you
Speaker 2: know me that you bring him up, you know, you
Speaker 2: look at.
Speaker 6: It told me a ground out and all the stuff
Speaker 6: that he's doing, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 6: mean you've seen some of the hits that you know
Speaker 6: he took no particularly the one from James Robinson, the
Speaker 6: stuff like that and so off and on, and you know,
Speaker 6: and he said, you know, as you said, most people.
Speaker 2: Will look at some of the stuff they say that joy,
Speaker 2: this guy is crazy. But that's just it. That the
Speaker 2: impact of the the effect and the impact.
Speaker 1: From you know, being in a position in the stigma.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, a guy that's playing in the game
Speaker 6: and decides that he's had it and he didn't then't
Speaker 6: take it no more, and he takes off his shirt
Speaker 6: right on broad television and runs.
Speaker 2: Out on the field. You know what I mean That
Speaker 2: that sounds like the person with Roger Lower.
Speaker 6: But obviously something triggered him to the point and he
Speaker 6: mentioned it before that he prod that the coach that
Speaker 6: you know, he was hurting, that.
Speaker 2: There was something about him was hurting, and the coach
Speaker 2: was like, fucking no, you don't go out there. You
Speaker 2: youn't pay pretty much, you know, lace him up. You
Speaker 2: know you getting paid the plenty.
Speaker 6: So as you said, there was a prison disregard for
Speaker 6: he's telling you that he's hurting and you know, I
Speaker 6: listen to him, so he's taking more ship.
Speaker 2: I got to do something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm tired of the like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: the guy that's that's the crazy guy and can't do
Speaker 2: this to do that, So I'm just gonna go out
Speaker 2: with it bank. And that's what he did so that
Speaker 2: you can you know what I mean. Mental health is
Speaker 2: definitely something that needs to be more.
Speaker 6: Or looked at and you know, investigated and not not
Speaker 6: so much appreciated, but at least you know, to be
Speaker 6: consulted with.
Speaker 2: Where are you actually get people the wrong and get
Speaker 2: them into a group.
Speaker 6: And try to grab them or gravitate to them, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, to kind of speak to them
Speaker 6: so that they can see that you know, there is
Speaker 6: there are other options besides hurting you and yourself and
Speaker 6: hurting other people.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: That you are important, you.
Speaker 6: Know and mind you that if whatever you're going through,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, if if somebody is willing
Speaker 6: to help you through it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: Then at leeds allow that to happen. But don't you know,
Speaker 6: go into drastic measures and do uh, you know, things
Speaker 6: that are going through you know, obviously take you out
Speaker 6: of this world or anybody else.
Speaker 2: You know. So that that's a good And I hope
Speaker 2: that with that message that.
Speaker 6: You get you is that you want as you go
Speaker 6: further and further into your career, that you you preach that,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And if hey listen, you know,
Speaker 6: if you're if you draw uh you know, get a
Speaker 6: strong enough base, you might be able to you know,
Speaker 6: need to start some kind.
Speaker 2: Of a group, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Where you because I think that you would be definitely
Speaker 6: you know, being that you're like you're very impartial with
Speaker 6: this good you know, because you don't address mental as
Speaker 6: you said, you know, you gotta be understanding and and
Speaker 6: and a person like that is a person that's definitely
Speaker 6: uh needed, you know when it comes to dealing with situations.
Speaker 2: For people like that. So have my hand off to
Speaker 2: you again, thank you.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: Said.
Speaker 2: I thought about a hint some years ago. My dad
Speaker 2: was stuff past and there was a kid I forgot
Speaker 2: the sing.
Speaker 5: You know, it's been years, so I definitely better number.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not going to put his business.
Speaker 2: Out there, but he was going through trouble, you know.
Speaker 4: And you know, at first sight, as as a teenager
Speaker 4: as a kid, like, oh, the kid's really you know.
Speaker 2: But when I found out.
Speaker 5: Why he was the like he was, someone became defensively right.
Speaker 2: People didn't understand right, but got it like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this kid is going through something right.
Speaker 8: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: We can't he can't.
Speaker 5: He can't never be you know, state of his own shadow.
Speaker 2: You know, in one day some kid like pushed him
Speaker 2: or something like make.
Speaker 5: Fun of him.
Speaker 2: This kid might sign a cry mm hmm. Other kid
Speaker 2: set them up against him out and I was like,
Speaker 2: I was gonna do that to.
Speaker 1: Me mm hmmm, do it to the mhm.
Speaker 2: You know, when I was younger, not that I got
Speaker 2: Bayed's one personal ability that I felt like, allad, this
Speaker 2: is this is a comfor the bottom, like it's going.
Speaker 2: I don't let anybody do that win And I never let.
Speaker 5: Anybody around me that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It's one thing that makes somebody put deep away and
Speaker 4: make somebody pay week and still.
Speaker 5: The peoples that no one deserve that.
Speaker 2: You know, it's you know, for the life, I don't
Speaker 2: understand why things happened with though they did with that situation,
Speaker 2: just like I didn't understand why this was the way
Speaker 2: he was and then when I probably understand that such, Shoot,
Speaker 2: you know, this is bigger than me, This is bigger
Speaker 2: than when exactly what you know and you got.
Speaker 5: To just take it apart with the other person might
Speaker 5: be doing it.
Speaker 2: We don't do that too often.
Speaker 5: And like it's never it's never an instance where you.
Speaker 4: Know, you think about how well you know this person
Speaker 4: going through this, this person ever going for that. You know,
Speaker 4: it's a lot in tragic to something that happens, but
Speaker 4: everybody stands back. But listen, I for many years, I married, my.
Speaker 2: My family.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I foind a sense of self. My
Speaker 5: battle with well, I was going to some things.
Speaker 2: You know, that's certain.
Speaker 5: Type of ways.
Speaker 2: You know, if I did not go through what I
Speaker 2: went through, I wouldn't be able to speak, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to set my door is open.
Speaker 5: Hey, I want to listen to your coms.
Speaker 2: Okay, what you tell me was going.
Speaker 4: A lot of people look at your crazy and says
Speaker 4: things and said, I truly knew that I would much
Speaker 4: wrong to hear your I don't want to be that
Speaker 4: person at all. Well, I'd rather really speak to you
Speaker 4: that I se want to cast. But I won't hear
Speaker 4: you brunch because you want to Castle is not watch.
Speaker 4: I don't like the realmuch like no sad. It's it's
Speaker 4: it's let's don't you in the right direction?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it's.
Speaker 5: Thin. It's listening.
Speaker 2: I don't want people wake that, you know. I just
Speaker 2: say that anybody's going with it, any type of mental health,
Speaker 2: any type of feelings that they.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm the person listen.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't care what time it is.
Speaker 5: I'll do my best to beat.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to live, maybe wants to fail a live
Speaker 2: maybe left now?
Speaker 1: M okay, okay, okay, real quick, uh, because I'm get
Speaker 1: way to go out of here. So plug July only,
Speaker 1: June twenty eight, real quick, So.
Speaker 2: June twenty a lot in the Brooks the Greatest Wrestling Alliance.
Speaker 6: Again.
Speaker 2: I don't know my match up yet, just yet I
Speaker 2: found out about it.
Speaker 4: I'm actually very very much Any attentions to the social
Speaker 4: media page and let's say this.
Speaker 5: I'm actually just to see that there's news.
Speaker 1: They're on Instagram at g w A right, yeah.
Speaker 2: The Greatest Wrestler Alliance, the Greatest Wrestler So right now
Speaker 2: there's three matches announcement. However, has just announced this is
Speaker 2: an AX capacity. But we all said that justin influence.
Speaker 6: Bencent Michael's especially okay referee.
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be another interesting things about John Adam
Speaker 2: and King, which is gonna.
Speaker 1: Be a working Saturday. Let me see you keep going.
Speaker 5: But.
Speaker 2: Listen into we get to take its days at bell
Speaker 2: time is at six band uh.
Speaker 5: Vision uh? You got the doors possible at the door? Yes?
Speaker 2: What is it about? The address right here? Nineteen thirty
Speaker 2: random ad las and bills pub in the balls again, listen,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this card. I'm saying this because I
Speaker 2: actually move it, and it's a reason why I started
Speaker 2: taking out.
Speaker 1: So okay, and it just so happened and I made
Speaker 1: it on this I know I do. That was well
Speaker 1: could somebody said, god keeping.
Speaker 2: Is there's a reason, right, But the shows a big.
Speaker 4: It wan't that longer, that energy, it's not that that high. Listen,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't I wanted nothing more than to be on
Speaker 4: the show, to listen on going into shows that I said,
Speaker 4: I need to be on the shows.
Speaker 2: Kay, And I imagine there's a lot sooner than a
Speaker 2: little I know out there. I'm gonna give it everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely gonna in the area.
Speaker 4: Would famous want to watch a wrestling show? You know
Speaker 4: them w and coming in the tuns soon, a w
Speaker 4: coming in town soon? Sting about our money on independent
Speaker 4: wrestling dun comes the talent personalist, buy some things.
Speaker 5: Come watch the guys. I watch the guys who who
Speaker 5: will actually working for something and want to be somewhere, like,
Speaker 5: come support.
Speaker 2: Us those guys on TV m hm and who knows?
Speaker 5: I think to sure, like who knows?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: Support us now. We'll want to work it all the
Speaker 2: way up so that one way we could we could
Speaker 2: pay it back, you know, to support Cloud the Monk.
Speaker 5: Where we love it so you know it means it
Speaker 5: means a lot more people show up.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh all right, Chris, anything else, no, sir?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Talking to people out.
Speaker 1: Like about.
Speaker 5: Sure, talking to God? I got the nutro rest o
Speaker 5: the right questions which I have been sure.
Speaker 1: Because real quick I just got this. Somebody said this
Speaker 1: just now right. This person asks you to list your
Speaker 1: your accolades.
Speaker 2: Uh acodes.
Speaker 5: Shoots your answer, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't want to live gout to like.
Speaker 5: One run battle uh one of few mass reap.
Speaker 2: You know, some left with sitting, you know, looking myself
Speaker 2: up about it.
Speaker 5: But I feel like, yes, little I'm not getting you
Speaker 5: who you think you are.
Speaker 2: You've only been doing this amount of time.
Speaker 5: I've never heard. I've never seen never.
Speaker 1: Never you know, so a couple so two things right,
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised to hear that if you were never champion,
Speaker 1: letone world champion before and in the brief time that
Speaker 1: I actually worked with one division pro, concurring with the
Speaker 1: time that you briefly one the division pro, I looked
Speaker 1: up the championship history and I was surprised that you
Speaker 1: weren't the champion then either. Huh okay, but time is coming,
Speaker 1: no worry.
Speaker 5: It was never meant a little about I'll just say
Speaker 5: that much.
Speaker 2: Never a little bit about love and that it is,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: I accepted that.
Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the vis in protomo in general
Speaker 1: will come on.
Speaker 5: To me when I when I got heard I realized
Speaker 5: that that was my end.
Speaker 2: I was I heard in my class year, I went
Speaker 2: into somebody and I realized my time is coming.
Speaker 5: That wasn't yeh, that's you know.
Speaker 4: I got on the podcast, I said how I was
Speaker 4: gonna take some time to wake them some doing shows, to.
Speaker 2: Really work on myself and get myself better and get
Speaker 2: myself and my words got more stuff we got, mister
Speaker 2: stood and that I don't tell you what led to
Speaker 2: my decision, along with other things, but that is the
Speaker 2: biggest thing because when I said something, I got no
Speaker 2: problem with the feeding, But don't ever tell me when
Speaker 2: I said something, I didn't say it. HM.
Speaker 5: When I realized, okay, where's it gonna put in my mouth?
Speaker 2: Not just in that instance, but mention of the time,
Speaker 2: I said, I'm never gonna.
Speaker 5: Be respected if I'm the child, what what is that
Speaker 5: gonna do? You know, I respect me as I'm working
Speaker 5: my way up, and I respect so I told myself,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna get out.
Speaker 2: What I can. Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, I wish him the best and.
Speaker 4: I'm supporting guys that that are being shows with Lef.
Speaker 4: You know, it's between me and these people. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, then I'm not gonna put the exact
Speaker 4: everybody I subpected. You know, they got a lot of
Speaker 4: backgrounds for some things, and you know, I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: get into it, but I think I'm gonna bring those
Speaker 4: us well, it's you know, and feelings turns in it's nothing,
Speaker 4: nothing change them. I wish I know the best these
Speaker 4: people that are still work behind the scenes, and I'm
Speaker 4: very good friends with that.
Speaker 5: Not the best, and I'm on a personal personal thing.
Speaker 5: By the time I play a professional level, I still best.
Speaker 2: I just it's not a place for me. It's not
Speaker 2: a place that I see myself, you know, because I
Speaker 2: never want to be the face.
Speaker 5: Of them, but I want to be respected as one
Speaker 5: of the time lives.
Speaker 2: Think that I bring to the table.
Speaker 5: You're not gonna find anywhere else.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna find somebody that wants to be the best,
Speaker 4: that wants to be one of the best, that wants
Speaker 4: to be at the time, that wants the best competition
Speaker 4: but also wants.
Speaker 5: Everybody to eat too.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna have.
Speaker 5: A lot of the guys gonna tell me and here
Speaker 5: countless amount of times.
Speaker 2: All when you're at the top, you're gonna act different mind.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna shoot on.
Speaker 4: Somebody because I'm I'm not able, I'm I'm the champion.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna look at this place and look that I
Speaker 5: don't care. I'm never gonna show at everybody because it
Speaker 5: see at the top of the.
Speaker 2: Sun and that the bottom coming down from the top
Speaker 2: ten bottom.
Speaker 1: So okay, I.
Speaker 5: Definitely enjoyed that everyone ever on the show.
Speaker 1: I have I have one I have one last question,
Speaker 1: one one fund question. Do you think twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: or what's left of it? Because you're halfway through what's
Speaker 1: left of it? Or as let as twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: do you think we'll probably see go around your waist
Speaker 1: in the near future.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 4: I'm want only of course, listen, I will save the
Speaker 4: rules sim chance, the blue chains. Maybe, I quite honestly,
Speaker 4: I don't know when, how if we will, but I
Speaker 4: know I'll beIN sure.
Speaker 5: I'm a little bit.
Speaker 1: Simple, Okay, anything particular, anything particular.
Speaker 4: Listen, there's summon the belts up. You know another day,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter, it doesn't you know. I get put
Speaker 4: in a position to show why I'm I deserve to
Speaker 4: be why I deserve magical in my.
Speaker 2: Mys I'm gonna show it, and I'll show that at
Speaker 2: each time I'll get in it. You know.
Speaker 4: It's it's honestly, the business is bigger than the bus,
Speaker 4: you know. And at the same time, that's what we
Speaker 4: don't want. So my day I didn't. If I do,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep scratching a carn my way. The faces.
Speaker 6: There's nothing like the chase, you know, but they want
Speaker 6: to get it. Well, then you got to say you
Speaker 6: want to see the Mary, you know.
Speaker 2: I say the man got to be and to be
Speaker 2: the man to become the name. You know, how do
Speaker 2: you stay?
Speaker 5: But how do you see the name?
Speaker 2: And another thing to change?
Speaker 4: People like the cheese and when when going up. But
Speaker 4: then once you get it, they kind of stitch. When
Speaker 4: we don't like the time anymore, shout out the us
Speaker 4: finished the story. You know, I just don't want to
Speaker 4: be in the same cody.
Speaker 2: Boat mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well that's all I have for uh
Speaker 1: that's why you had to right Chris. Okay. Well, well, well, Alec,
Speaker 1: it's been it's been good times again, I'm saying having
Speaker 1: one I look forward to having one more and more
Speaker 1: and you know that's the as time goes by. And
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, uh, we definitely gotta talk about definitely
Speaker 1: want to come back on like after June twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: I'm saying not to talk about your your g D,
Speaker 1: your g W A appearance, your match there. But I
Speaker 1: think I think I think they're gonna be w W
Speaker 1: is gonna be sorry. We can talk about that too.
Speaker 1: So much stuff around that controversy about that, so mu's
Speaker 1: to talk about. Yeah, so yeah, who knows, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: be back on and between now and then, So I
Speaker 1: just stay too nice pretty or I know what it
Speaker 1: is and uh yeah man, and uh.
Speaker 5: All right, that's.
Speaker 2: I found you.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I'm gonna say something that's a double
Speaker 1: meaning and will make more sense in hindsight. And that's
Speaker 1: if you ever needs help, Alex, It's there is coming,
Speaker 1: all right, appreciation. Yeah, yeah, all right, Well guys, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to take care.
Speaker 2: I gotta.
Speaker 1: Upload this and stuff it there, send to you or
Speaker 1: your go ahead, go ahead, we go.
Speaker 2: Interrupting me before we go, I want to make sure,
Speaker 2: but I say this again, and I will say this
Speaker 2: since I turn this very very very personal subjects to me,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna advocate for it. I'm gonna use.
Speaker 4: Whatever time I'm having listen, even on my person. Right,
Speaker 4: just because June ends unafradable July first, right, this does
Speaker 4: not matter. Right July first. I do not on the
Speaker 4: top of the mental health awareness to stop. I wanted
Speaker 4: to keep going and I want to be bigger than
Speaker 4: just the m r as wealth. It's men's mental health
Speaker 4: every single freaking day. Everything you want saying, say that
Speaker 4: my MS are open. If you mean my phone number,
Speaker 4: DM me, I will give you my phone number.
Speaker 5: I will talk, I will send you whatever resources will
Speaker 5: need to to get help.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 5: It's being very perspect It's very something that.
Speaker 4: I take to heart and I need it. I freaking
Speaker 4: if anybody is struggling, anybody's.
Speaker 2: Going to do anything, anybody is feeling the type of way,
Speaker 2: if you're in that dark place and you feel.
Speaker 4: Like there's no way out other than that way, tell me,
Speaker 4: talk to me, hit me up. I mean that from
Speaker 4: the bottom of the heart. I can't trust that enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't really.
Speaker 4: Interest this month is about to end, does not mean
Speaker 4: that means mental health and just mental health in general.
Speaker 2: It's not just women.
Speaker 5: Women set the boots.
Speaker 4: Most importantly the guys when you're in the business, whether
Speaker 4: you're just.
Speaker 2: Hazard fan, whether we're a hardcore fan, whether we're just
Speaker 2: a person that comes along vers follow me ale Cama
Speaker 2: Wrestling like Instagram, find.
Speaker 5: Me on Facebook, Alexander, it's not that hard.
Speaker 2: I promise I would be there. I will listen to you.
Speaker 4: I would do what I gotta do to make sure
Speaker 4: that you see this through because I both through it
Speaker 4: every three pie in the day, the game through it.
Speaker 4: Since I was at the one age, I don't really
Speaker 4: say that I'm a very young vantage.
Speaker 2: It was a very subject to me. I want.
Speaker 1: You need help, and that's commendable. I'm alex But but
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is you're not a professional.
Speaker 1: So if you are seeing professional help, I I know people.
Speaker 1: I have a personal therapist, also have one sponsors to
Speaker 1: talk space if you go on the spield up site
Speaker 1: and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I got I got the resources because I heard from
Speaker 2: therapy myself. Okay, you know I'm not talking about I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be a professional because but I'm listening to Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well hold on, I just want to interject real quick,
Speaker 6: and I'm making sure because you're not a professional.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that you still can't interact with people.
Speaker 2: And like I said, sometimes some people have.
Speaker 6: No body, They have no out there, no one at
Speaker 6: all that will understand them. So when you have nobody,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, it's better to have somebody
Speaker 6: that at least you could talk to and you can
Speaker 6: necessary say, perhaps I'm just gonna make this a real
Speaker 6: quizys there, profess, somebody's gonna.
Speaker 2: Do something real crazy and you could talk to him
Speaker 2: and you.
Speaker 5: Could stop them from doing it.
Speaker 2: Like personally, you don't have to be in a professional
Speaker 2: field to be able to do that, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 9: And mind you, sometimes those people are the most appreciative
Speaker 9: because they don't even come out and say, you know.
Speaker 2: What that's to Alec or whomeover, I actually you reached
Speaker 2: got to me and as.
Speaker 6: Far to me, and he tells my whole mindset about
Speaker 6: how I look at a situation.
Speaker 11: So yes, you know, I'm I'm more for you know
Speaker 11: what I mean, professional auth and stuff like that. But
Speaker 11: it doesn't always take the professional to do that. Sometimes
Speaker 11: it's just talking to him that it don't blow.
Speaker 5: That to just go ahead and speak you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, and articulate and actually be.
Speaker 2: Willing to listen too, because that's the thing A lot
Speaker 2: of people. They say that when people or like the.
Speaker 6: College as oh you know what I mean, describe crazy
Speaker 6: nuts you hear to start with this, they don't want
Speaker 6: to deal with it. So if a person is telling
Speaker 6: that about with them all the time, how are they
Speaker 6: supposed to be able to articulate get out there because
Speaker 6: they're gonna have the same combination that they had from
Speaker 6: that previous in Teneba or everybody's gonna take it up crazy,
Speaker 6: So now they're becommunting off.
Speaker 2: They don't want to say anything. It bothers up and
Speaker 2: then before you know it, it explodes.
Speaker 5: Enough.
Speaker 2: I definitely feel that because you know too often.
Speaker 5: Shoot, when I was younger, I know how to talk
Speaker 5: about my problems, right, uh huh. I thought I was crazy,
Speaker 5: So yeah, I was judging in a class.
Speaker 12: You know, somebody would listen to them, Mae. Somebody mean
Speaker 12: from before I was even born. The salk to me
Speaker 12: one day and it's going through some things and I
Speaker 12: don't know, I don't know that's got as much older.
Speaker 12: I hope he's still around and one director you know
Speaker 12: what we.
Speaker 2: In the near future.
Speaker 5: See he was a big help to me. What good
Speaker 5: friends and my dad and one of.
Speaker 2: Those type of things. But I do want to say,
Speaker 2: you know, although I'm not a professional.
Speaker 5: Thanking, cherild always seen an obvious.
Speaker 2: And guy said thanks, stay obvious that I'm not.
Speaker 5: I realized that advanced time.
Speaker 2: I say this because come from place where I don't
Speaker 2: want to see anybody before.
Speaker 13: I don't want to see now, and I want everybody
Speaker 13: to be I want anybody, like I said earlier with
Speaker 13: the business, I want everybody to be the reason why
Speaker 13: stuff will become. My endeavors with one division punk is
Speaker 13: because other people didn't beat it was good time.
Speaker 5: I reached my path. You know, when anythings fully in
Speaker 5: life is just being able to help the next person.
Speaker 5: Because if you.
Speaker 4: Help one person to help person takes it takes a village.
Speaker 4: But not only does it take a village, you teach me,
Speaker 4: what do you teach me fish if you don't the
Speaker 4: whole village? So either to try to fish an officials
Speaker 4: guy or official emotionality just whatever move and.
Speaker 2: You getting out.
Speaker 4: I want to do that, you know, But that's one
Speaker 4: of the few things I'm doing on this earth where
Speaker 4: I believe the mark that that's gonna be mental.
Speaker 2: It's just that's how it is. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: doing this for any self preservation. I'm doing this. It's
Speaker 2: it means a lot to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, Well that said, I gotta head
Speaker 1: out now, gonna make a phone call. I also gotta
Speaker 1: find life. This recording and this what's the mstling this
Speaker 1: relax for us at night. Got work tomorrow and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys do too.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 1: But we quick question, when do you hear your podcast
Speaker 1: on Alexander m Well, like we live Spotify, iHeartRadio. I'm
Speaker 1: saying the link, like we list podcast.
Speaker 2: On shore, I listened to Well, I used to listen
Speaker 2: to Spotify. I don't want Spotify anymore. I want to
Speaker 2: us Apple Music again. Shout out to Apple Music. But
Speaker 2: a little bit website. That's why us listen to.
Speaker 1: Okay, w spo dot com as you're talking about.
Speaker 2: So h uh.
Speaker 1: No, I have You're gonna you're gonna you're gonna be
Speaker 1: all right, You're gonna learn I got you. Okay, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: if that said, I'll try to see you on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Hopefully back on before them to do some is real stuff,
Speaker 1: but that time always come up, like always, some of
Speaker 1: the listeners, stay safe, stay out of trouble, and I
Speaker 1: will be back with you probably tomorrow when I uh
Speaker 1: for for the finale of that Man, Barbara, when I
Speaker 1: beat the shut out out for for the final time
Speaker 1: and beat the game for the falling time. As we
Speaker 1: are recording, I've been doing all the postgame stuff and
Speaker 1: I'm finally done for all that. So the only thing
Speaker 1: not to is to beat the final boss again and
Speaker 1: then I will one hundred percent this whole entire game.
Speaker 1: I've been doing that when we're talking, so shout to
Speaker 1: me and me alone. But yeah, man, but yes, great,
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Speaker 1: I'm signing off on a lie on material. All right,
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Speaker 2: A right, let's see Chris
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