Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Constans Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. That's a shocker for a
Speaker 2: guy like that to go down with a leg injury,
Speaker 2: being crowded off the field. That's tough. He's a young guy.
Speaker 2: Thanks for that, Al and as that could be a
Speaker 2: very significant development on the season. Although the Red Sox
Speaker 2: do have some people down down below that can be
Speaker 2: called up here, so and they and they've got a
Speaker 2: couple of their more utility type players. Certainly Romey Gonzalez
Speaker 2: can can play first base as well, so we'll follow
Speaker 2: that story. So we're continuing with our sports theme tonight.
Speaker 2: Again just for those of you who normally expect us
Speaker 2: to talk about things all political and current events and
Speaker 2: all of that. No, we'd like to take a little
Speaker 2: bit of a breather. On Friday Night last Hour, we
Speaker 2: spent that hour talking about Bill Belichick and his twenty
Speaker 2: four year old draft choice, Jordan Hudson. Well, and I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say draft choice, his BF, his new BFF, or
Speaker 2: as he referred to her. There was a phrase he used,
Speaker 2: creative muse. I never well, I think I know what
Speaker 2: that means. But so we had some really good calls
Speaker 2: last hour, and I want to continue this hour. It
Speaker 2: was just I think it was a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure of the date. I should, of course,
Speaker 2: always look up something like this. That we had the
Speaker 2: pleasure of talking with my guest, Marty Gitlin. Marty is
Speaker 2: is a sports writer. We had a long conversation today
Speaker 2: he and I and I think we got to know
Speaker 2: each other. And I like to think I know a
Speaker 2: little bit about sports, but Marty Gitland knows a lot.
Speaker 2: By the way, I did I know you sent an
Speaker 2: email to that fellow we were talking about today who
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to him many years, and I had
Speaker 2: a brief conversation with him tonight and was delightful, and
Speaker 2: I'll talk with him. Marty. Thanks for making that reintroduction
Speaker 2: earlier this evening.
Speaker 3: How are you tonight, Yeah, that was my pleasure. I'm
Speaker 3: doing just fine. I'm really flattered that you having me
Speaker 3: back and looking forward to talking a little bit here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the book is entitled The Fifty Greatest Athletes
Speaker 2: in Boston Sports History. Just for introductory douctory purposes. Introductory
Speaker 2: purposes tell us a little bit about yourself and also
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about the genesis of this book.
Speaker 2: You are a prolific author. You've written a variety type
Speaker 2: variety many type books. Let's put it like that. I'll
Speaker 2: keep it simple. How was it that you came You
Speaker 2: were a Cleveland sports writer and somehow, some way you
Speaker 2: focused your first book dealing with the athletes of a
Speaker 2: community on Boston. How was it that you came to
Speaker 2: the to the Boston story first?
Speaker 3: Well, I thought if I was gonna you know, I
Speaker 3: had the idea of doing a book or a series
Speaker 3: of books on the greatest athletes in a particular city,
Speaker 3: whether it's you know, football, basketball, hockey, baseball, you know,
Speaker 3: and you know, not just limited to one sport. And
Speaker 3: I figured, if I was going to do that, Boston
Speaker 3: would be the very obvious choice because of the passion
Speaker 3: of the fans here and the and the you know,
Speaker 3: the greatness of the athletes in all four sports, and
Speaker 3: the fact that they have a team, you know, they've
Speaker 3: had a team for decades and decades and decades and
Speaker 3: all four of the major sports, So that obviously was
Speaker 3: a factor as well. But I know the passion of
Speaker 3: Boston sports fans, and I thought a book like that
Speaker 3: would go over really well there, yeah, now here. You know,
Speaker 3: I moved to New England a couple of years ago
Speaker 3: because I always wanted to live in New England. So
Speaker 3: I lived in Cleveland, Ohio my whole lot, and moved
Speaker 3: to New England in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Well, the the thing that that is that's great about
Speaker 2: this is that growing up as a kid in the
Speaker 2: fifties and following sports, the National Hockey League only had
Speaker 2: six teams, yeah, you know, two in Canada. For in America,
Speaker 2: we had the number of basketball teams. You know, back
Speaker 2: in that those days there were pro teams and places
Speaker 2: like Cincinnati and Syracuse. In Minneapolis, there was no Los
Speaker 2: Angeleskers when until at some point that the Minneapoliskers moved
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles and became the Los Angeleskers. Now, of
Speaker 2: course there's the Minnesota Miny Minnesota Timberwolves. But in football,
Speaker 2: we didn't have a pro football team until the AFLKA.
Speaker 3: Right and nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so so we've had the benefit of the
Speaker 2: four major sports in Boston probably as long as anybody
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think back. Chicago obviously has had they
Speaker 2: had the benefit of two football teams uh, two baseball
Speaker 2: teams for for a long time, but they didn't have
Speaker 2: a basketball team and they had the Black Ops. So
Speaker 2: until they had the Chicago Zephyrs before the Bulls, they
Speaker 2: didn't have the full complement of four teams.
Speaker 3: Well, Detroit I believe did right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did. They had the Red Wings and the
Speaker 2: Pistage for a long time. Yeah, and of course the
Speaker 2: Tigers and the Lions. Yep. Okay, so Detroit did. Philadelphia
Speaker 2: they had a basketball team.
Speaker 3: They they the Philadelphia Warriors.
Speaker 2: Yep, they would have the Warriors, which they became the Warriors.
Speaker 2: So that so was Boston, Detroit, and Philadelphia. Who you
Speaker 2: could have picked, and you picked Boston. Okay, good enough.
Speaker 2: Now a couple of just general questions, and then I'm
Speaker 2: going to try to incorporate as many callers in as
Speaker 2: we can. You picked from professional from athletes. It's the
Speaker 2: fifty Greatest Boston Athletes. The name of the book is
Speaker 2: the fifty greatest athletes in Boston sports history. But you
Speaker 2: didn't include non professionals, for example, like Phil Rogers, the
Speaker 2: marathon champion, or well.
Speaker 3: Yes, well there was a separate list in the book,
Speaker 3: and it's kind of the back of the book where
Speaker 3: I actually ranked the top twenty, I believe athletes who
Speaker 3: are from Boston, who are from the you know, the
Speaker 3: general Boston area, like Marciano, Tom Glavin, and so forth.
Speaker 2: I hopefully, hopefully had Marvin Hagler in.
Speaker 3: There, and you know you have of course, yeah, Marvin Hagler.
Speaker 3: But that's a separate list, and my Amazon page for
Speaker 3: this particular book doesn't really make that distinction quite strong enough.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to let folks know that the main
Speaker 3: list of the book, the main thrust of the book
Speaker 3: as a top fifty athletes in Boston history that that
Speaker 3: were Boston uniforms and any the four major sports, and
Speaker 3: then there a separate list.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so on that on that separate list, I assume
Speaker 2: you had Bill Rogers, Yes, what about Nancy Carrigan or
Speaker 2: Tenley Albright?
Speaker 3: Uh think Kragan I believe made it. I would have
Speaker 3: to actually have to look and and it's it's it's
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have to because that's yeah, the book. The
Speaker 3: book just came out last week. But uh, you know,
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm trying to remember, I can, I can, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, pie trainer, there's only there's the list only
Speaker 3: has I think fifteen athletes. Uh, and I ranked them
Speaker 3: and I think I believe I have Rocky Marciano number one.
Speaker 2: Okay, no problem, no problem.
Speaker 3: One that you know Patrick ewing was from who was?
Speaker 2: Which was which other one?
Speaker 3: Did you say, Patrick Ewings.
Speaker 4: Ridge?
Speaker 3: What you're talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cambridge Engine Line. Well so you had kind of a.
Speaker 3: Yes, Kiddley all Bright. There you go. Figure skating, I
Speaker 3: do we have to.
Speaker 2: I believe she skated in the fifty six Olympics. I
Speaker 2: think she wre the gold and she became a doctor,
Speaker 2: a very significant doctor here, and she's still skating or
Speaker 2: she's still involved with the Boston Skating Club. So what
Speaker 2: I want to do is I want to give our
Speaker 2: listeners a chance, and I'm going to give people a
Speaker 2: chance to ask you about who's on the list. I'd
Speaker 2: like to have people maybe give us some names that
Speaker 2: aren't on the list. I have the list, which you
Speaker 2: were kind enough to send to me, so I'm not
Speaker 2: going to cheat. But I think this is one of
Speaker 2: those great stories that you can always have conversations about.
Speaker 2: I went through the.
Speaker 3: List, that's the greatest thing. And the debate, the debate
Speaker 3: over my top fifty and who didn't make it and
Speaker 3: where they're and so forth. What makes this book so
Speaker 3: much fun?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I went through it on on
Speaker 2: a little personal note. I went through it to see
Speaker 2: how many of these athletes I have interviewed on my
Speaker 2: radio show. And there were several that I interviewed. I'll
Speaker 2: I'll tell that to people later. And then how many
Speaker 2: of them I interviewed when I worked as a television reporter.
Speaker 2: One story that will tell clearly call Yastremsky is on
Speaker 2: the list, and I covered We covered it as a
Speaker 2: news story in nineteen seventy eight, Yastremsky's pursuit of his
Speaker 2: three thousandth hit and it took.
Speaker 3: Fu Oh yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2: That, and it was I don't know if you remember
Speaker 2: the picture. He got sort of a seeing eye single
Speaker 2: against the Yankees, and I think Willie Randolph might have
Speaker 2: waived on the on the ball he was. He batted
Speaker 2: against Jim Betty who had pitched it darkness.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember him.
Speaker 2: And so Beattie gave up his three thousand hit and
Speaker 2: we would end up in the clubhouse on the eleven
Speaker 2: o'clock deadline every night, and of course the games in
Speaker 2: those days they went a little quicker than they did
Speaker 2: in more recent years. And we would walk into the
Speaker 2: clubhouse and invariably there were like three nights where Carl
Speaker 2: had gone hitless, so he stuck. He was stuck at
Speaker 2: twenty nine and ninety nine, and he would be sitting
Speaker 2: on a stool or a chair in front of his
Speaker 2: locker and it he'd be puffing on a cigarette, kind
Speaker 2: of bent over. And most of the printed scribes they
Speaker 2: they weren't looking at the deadline. I was looking at it.
Speaker 2: I was looking at eleven o'clock Liveshot deadline, and they
Speaker 2: were all very respectful, but I had the time pressure.
Speaker 2: They didn't have to file until midnight. Maybe or they
Speaker 2: might have had this story written, but I had to
Speaker 2: get the sound, turn it around and get live outside
Speaker 2: of Fenway Park. So it was up to me, Okay, yes,
Speaker 2: let's talk about tonight. I know it didn't work. I
Speaker 2: had to ask him the most blunt questions there were.
Speaker 2: There were none of these, well, yes, you hit the
Speaker 2: ball twice on the line, just didn't There was none
Speaker 2: of that. It was cut to the chase time, simple
Speaker 2: as that. So let's let's I want people I'll give you.
Speaker 2: I'll give people callers up to five names. You can't
Speaker 2: give us any more than five names. And let's see
Speaker 2: if my audience is good enough, smart enough to get
Speaker 2: as many of the top fifty. Let's have it. Let's
Speaker 2: make this again. Let's have fun with it, okay, And
Speaker 2: if anybody gets five for five, and of course the
Speaker 2: earlier you call, you got to get five for five,
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Speaker 2: And once one name is gone, it's gone. So it's
Speaker 2: only gonna get tougher as the as the hour goes on,
Speaker 2: we'll be back on night Side with my guest Marty Gitlin,
Speaker 2: his book, which is going to be a great Father's Day.
Speaker 2: It would be a Mother's Day gift two of if
Speaker 2: your mom's a sports fan.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: It is simply the fifty greatest athletes in Boston sports history.
Speaker 2: Let's light it up, let's give away some T shirts,
Speaker 2: and let's let's remember the the all time greats who
Speaker 2: have graced Boston professional sports. Back on Nightside right after this,
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Speaker 1: If you're on Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you easy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: My guest is Marty Gittlin. He's a sports writer, has
Speaker 2: written a lot of books, great sports books. The latest
Speaker 2: is the fifty Greatest Athletes in Boston sports history. Maney,
Speaker 2: if you're ready to go, we'll we'll try to move
Speaker 2: through these callers as quickly as we can. And again,
Speaker 2: you got to hit five for five, folks. It's as
Speaker 2: simple as that. The first callers are going to have
Speaker 2: it as easy. Is only going to get more difficult
Speaker 2: as we go along. If you want to take a shot,
Speaker 2: we're gonna start it off with Lee in Quinsy. Lee,
Speaker 2: you are lucky you're calling number one. Give us five
Speaker 2: people five.
Speaker 4: I have me because I'm the first one. I know
Speaker 4: the I have the easy ones. But before I say that,
Speaker 4: I just wanted to say about a player who might
Speaker 4: not be on the list that should be on the list, because.
Speaker 2: Well, let's save that, let's do this, Let's save that
Speaker 2: for a moment, because I want to I want to
Speaker 2: qualify you for a T shirt first, because if if
Speaker 2: anybody's going to get a T shirt, okay that you
Speaker 2: know are on the.
Speaker 4: List, Okay, Bobby or Tom Brady, Bill Russell, John Hannah,
Speaker 4: Ted Williams, I.
Speaker 2: Think you're okay, yes, yep, okay, yeah, that's there. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so you're going to get a T shirt. Now, who
Speaker 2: did Who do you want to suggest should be on
Speaker 2: the list? Who you don't things on the list?
Speaker 4: Greg mccaren, Is that a jockey? That's a jockey. He's one,
Speaker 4: He's a Hall of Fame jockey.
Speaker 2: No, I understand. Yeah, but again this was limited, just
Speaker 2: so you know, which is fine. And tomorrow's the Derby.
Speaker 2: I get it. It's not a bad point. But all
Speaker 2: of those sort of like individual athletes, tennis players, boxers,
Speaker 2: and and and and ice skaters, we explained on a
Speaker 2: separate list.
Speaker 3: But the good news Boston uniform.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, that's no, no, no, no, no, that
Speaker 2: that's good. Are you somebody who likes to go to
Speaker 2: the track.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I've always been to the truck my whole life.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you. When I talked to somebody
Speaker 2: who's been to the track, who's ahead? You were the
Speaker 2: track over the years?
Speaker 4: All horse players are degenerate liars.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, lie, tell me you're ahead.
Speaker 4: No, no, I like to think I can break even,
Speaker 4: but yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well there's uh, tomorrow's the Derby? Tomor' is the Derby?
Speaker 2: A year? A year ago? It was won. I remember
Speaker 2: the horse that running one a year ago? No, how
Speaker 2: could you forget mystic Dan?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Oh wow that was my horse, my horse I had.
Speaker 2: I had a tip from someone on that horse. It
Speaker 2: was not an inside information. Tip, was just someone said
Speaker 2: you got to get a bed in on on the
Speaker 2: horse that's that's named for you. It was kind of
Speaker 2: an inside show. It was a thirty five or one shot.
Speaker 4: And and no kidding, that's great.
Speaker 2: The Steve came across the line as the winner. Then
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Speaker 4: To the best. Let me just say one thing. The
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Speaker 2: That's good, Okay, I like that. I like that. What
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think the dogs are even
Speaker 2: I mean the dog races last like thirty seconds and
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Speaker 4: I own gray I own greyhounds when I was younger,
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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, Marni, just very quickly,
Speaker 2: you have a profile on every one of these athletes.
Speaker 2: So it's not they're just not buying a book with
Speaker 2: a list in it. They're buying a no.
Speaker 3: No, there's a why why I ranked them where I did,
Speaker 3: the total biography of each athlete, and some quotes, some
Speaker 3: about the athlete from a different athlete or a different person,
Speaker 3: and a quote from the athlete themselves, and some a
Speaker 3: lot of statistical information. It's it's a very complete list
Speaker 3: and a very complete you know, uh, biography and so forth,
Speaker 3: each one of these athletes and why they were ranked
Speaker 3: in that particular order.
Speaker 2: As they say, anyone who has a parent or a
Speaker 2: grandparent who loves sports, they would, I'm sure love this book.
Speaker 3: And i'd like to I'd like to tell people, you know,
Speaker 3: when when the point come back, you know where they
Speaker 3: can get the book autographed and personalized as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously I assume yeah they can get it through Amazon,
Speaker 2: but probably to get it autographed and personalized. Which is
Speaker 2: even better. I assume that you have a website, and
Speaker 2: so we'll make sure we yes.
Speaker 3: And I'll let them I'll let them know about that.
Speaker 2: Perfect. Okay, we'll be back with my guest, Marty Gitlin, sportswriter. Extraordinary,
Speaker 2: really has done some great work over the years. He's
Speaker 2: been doing it long time. Uh And I know I
Speaker 2: when I talk with him today, he more than qualified himself.
Speaker 2: He knows Boston sports. Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: You're on the Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w
Speaker 1: BZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: What a sad story that was little boy for four
Speaker 2: or five years old, and of course the story the
Speaker 2: little boy who was hit by the bus here in Boston.
Speaker 2: Hold your children close to you. Six seven, two thirty.
Speaker 2: We got one line there in six one, seven nine thirty.
Speaker 2: Gonna go next to David and Stoke. David, welcome, you
Speaker 2: were next on the Night Side. You got a pretty
Speaker 2: good shot here. Give us five people where you think
Speaker 2: should be in the top fifty athletes for the Boston
Speaker 2: uniform basically Celtics, Brewers, Patriots or Red Sox.
Speaker 3: About Larry Byrne.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's one woozy. I'm sorry. Second one is what coozy? Yep,
Speaker 2: that's two. You got two for two?
Speaker 3: About Grog?
Speaker 2: Yeah he's in here, there he is. Yep, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Three for three? Uhrim ski oh yeah, four for four?
Speaker 3: How about Roger Clemens?
Speaker 2: You got five for five? Have to have to have
Speaker 2: Clemens in here? Actually, I think Clemens should be a
Speaker 2: little higher up, but they'll leave that alone. He pitched
Speaker 2: a lot of his games for other teams, you know,
Speaker 2: after the Red Sox. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you got
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Speaker 2: know you sports you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: Boddy all right, hope.
Speaker 2: You get the book too. By the way, David, I
Speaker 2: think you'd enjoyed a whole lot. Okay, thank you much. Okay,
Speaker 2: Andrew Rich will take care of him. Let me get
Speaker 2: one more in here. I'm gonna go next to Matt
Speaker 2: Matten only gets tougher the later we go, because we
Speaker 2: got ten off the board and we're making it five
Speaker 2: for five.
Speaker 3: Here we go. If Raebork was it said, Raybork, you.
Speaker 2: Got Ray Bork one for one. Okay, go ahead, that's good,
Speaker 2: keep going.
Speaker 5: Sam Jones a.
Speaker 2: Great, a great pick. Sam Jones. That's two for two.
Speaker 2: Sam Jones was our playground instructor. I think when I
Speaker 2: was twelve year old. Twelve years old in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, Marty, the Celtics players didn't make
Speaker 2: a whole lot of money then what he did? How
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Go ahead, Matt, all right.
Speaker 3: If it wasn't said to have a check, have the checks.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on you three for three. Let me make sure.
Speaker 2: I just got to check it off to make sure that. Okay,
Speaker 2: we we have picked h some big ones. You're three
Speaker 2: for three, you got two more?
Speaker 4: Alright?
Speaker 5: Randy Moss, No, he.
Speaker 3: Didn't play long enough for the He didn't play long
Speaker 3: enough for the Patriots. That was the problem. There was
Speaker 3: not enough longevity there to be in the top fifty
Speaker 3: of all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if he had played, he had run
Speaker 3: up those two kind of the statistics, maybe five or
Speaker 3: six seven years. Absolutely, but he just didn't play the
Speaker 3: last way.
Speaker 2: I would have said, anyway, who was the last one?
Speaker 4: The last two I would have said anyway, would have been.
Speaker 3: Kenny Hodge.
Speaker 2: Nope, No, Kenny was was a good one, was here along,
Speaker 2: was here a long time and by the way, a
Speaker 2: really good guy. But unfortunately, when when you hear some
Speaker 2: of the names that you missed, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: tell you now, but I'll at the end of the hour,
Speaker 2: we'll read some of the names that were missed. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you got three for five. If you've got four
Speaker 2: for five, because you're a regular caller, I probably would
Speaker 2: have given you that extra shot. So I'm gonna unfortunately, Matt,
Speaker 2: No problem, Matt, we'll talk again. Thank you so much, Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, thanks to appreciate it. All right, So we've
Speaker 2: given away a couple of T shirts. Let's keep rolling. Six, one, seven, thirty.
Speaker 2: We're talking with Marty Gitlin and Marty, I'm surprised. There's
Speaker 2: there's a lot of big names here that people haven't
Speaker 2: thought about. They have to be killing. Yeah, there's there's
Speaker 2: a lot still on the board here. And and by
Speaker 2: the way, Matt is a real good baseball guy. There's
Speaker 2: some good baseball people he didn't go to, which again
Speaker 2: surprises me. But that's okay. Let's go to Tim. Tim,
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Speaker 2: shot here at a night side T shirt. You gotta
Speaker 2: go five for five, Tim, Okay, you ready? Yeah, let's
Speaker 2: go slow, so I don't want to make a mistake.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead. Okay, Number one Bobby or probably Tim
Speaker 2: hold it, Tim, Yeah, Tim, I'm gonna let you get
Speaker 2: back in. Have you been listening for the entire hour?
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: What I said was, once someone's off the board, you
Speaker 2: can't pick him. So Bill Russell has been picked, Tom Brady,
Speaker 2: Bobby or Ted Williams, Larry Bird, raybor Kylia Streemsky, Bob Cousy,
Speaker 2: Tom Hannah, John Havlicek Gronkowski, Sam Jones, and Roger Clements.
Speaker 2: They're off the board. But there's a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: names on the board, So you gotta get five for five,
Speaker 2: but you can't pick someone who's already been picked.
Speaker 5: Yeah, anyhow, I picked the five and a lot of
Speaker 5: them are off the board, so I'm out to lunch.
Speaker 2: Well, you want to take a shot at there's a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of names here.
Speaker 3: All right, let me think.
Speaker 2: Well you gotta think quickly though. Go ahead, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you I can't do it. All right, okay, Tim, we'll
Speaker 2: We'll let you go when I read off the names
Speaker 2: that haven't been picked some of I'm not going to
Speaker 2: read them all off. Some of them that haven't been picked.
Speaker 2: I think you're going to be surprised. But that's okay,
Speaker 2: you got it. We'll get you another prize another night.
Speaker 2: Thanks to appreciate it. Have a great night. Where are
Speaker 2: my sports fans. We've only taken so far thirteen names
Speaker 2: off the board. That means there are thirty seven names left,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. I just wanted for a second, Marty.
Speaker 3: Just to.
Speaker 2: Run a couple of names by you that didn't make
Speaker 2: the list. Okay. Uh And and just for the fun
Speaker 2: of it, you and I talked about Louis Tiant. I'm yes,
Speaker 2: a great, great friend of Louis.
Speaker 3: Picture of the Cleveland Indians when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: Well, I was there the day that Moore h had
Speaker 2: no hit the Indians and Tiant was the losing picture
Speaker 2: in September of sixty five. But I would see Louis
Speaker 2: often at a restaurant in Milton where he lived, and uh,
Speaker 2: what a great guy, what what a what a great
Speaker 2: guy he was?
Speaker 3: He was beloved.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm going to run a couple of names
Speaker 2: that are not here while we wait for some other calls.
Speaker 2: Six one seven two five Ford and we got to
Speaker 2: take a break. Six one seven, four ten thirty. Here's
Speaker 2: I don't think here's a name that you must have
Speaker 2: thought about. And you didn't include.
Speaker 3: Babe Ruth in there? What not to get into the book.
Speaker 2: I'm looking here really carefully at your list.
Speaker 3: That you see about because he only played six years.
Speaker 3: They played from nineteen fourteen to nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 2: Right, But what I'm saying is that no, so you didn't.
Speaker 2: He's not in the top fifty. Uh I'm aheaded right now.
Speaker 6: Oh my lord, And hold on, I was I could
Speaker 6: have scorn I included him, and you know, that's odd
Speaker 6: that I didn't, because I was sure that I did.
Speaker 6: And that's unusual because the book just freaking came out
Speaker 6: and here I am. Yes, you're right, he didn't make it.
Speaker 6: He you know, obviously, you know, he was more or
Speaker 6: less just a picture for the Red Sox un till
Speaker 6: the very end when when they you know, they it
Speaker 6: got absolutely ridiculous that they weren't playing him every day
Speaker 6: in the outfield because he was revolutionizing baseball in his bat.
Speaker 3: But I must have just included him as an honorable mention.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, you're you're absolutely right, and I was.
Speaker 3: I was sure that I had included him, and I
Speaker 3: feel silly, but no, I don't have the babe in there.
Speaker 3: I have left the grove in there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, don't don't give away any more names here.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a couple at you. They
Speaker 2: didn't make the list real quickly, and which kind of
Speaker 2: surprised me. We talked about tea on I would have
Speaker 2: liked to have seen Steve Brogan on the list, and
Speaker 2: and and Grogan played fifteen years here and was probably
Speaker 2: the most He may not have been the best Patriots quarterback,
Speaker 2: but he was the.
Speaker 3: Well obviously, yeah, I you know, and I did. I
Speaker 3: did consider Grogan and he was a wonderful running quarterback,
Speaker 3: you know, he was he threw a lot of interceptions and.
Speaker 2: He was uh, you know, I just that's okay.
Speaker 3: I would have been you know, I think if the
Speaker 3: if the book was the top maybe sixty, I would
Speaker 3: have had Grogan in there. Yeah. I do have a second.
Speaker 3: I do have a second Patriots quarterback in the book.
Speaker 2: I know we're gonna leave that alone for now. We're
Speaker 2: gonna leave that alone for now. People will probably be able.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a pretty good big hint. I'll just
Speaker 2: tell you that Grogan is a great guy. Uh and
Speaker 2: and he's been on my show a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Really good guy. And so that's a little that's a
Speaker 2: personal one as well. And we'll we'll go to some others.
Speaker 2: But I got to take a quick break. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back with my guest, Marty Gitlin. The book The
Speaker 2: Fifty Greatest Athletes in Boston Sports History. I got three
Speaker 2: people on the line. I'm gonna try to accommodate on
Speaker 2: a fourth coming up. We'll try to get to everybody,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna have to be quick back on night
Speaker 2: Side right after this.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're only a few minutes left. We're gonna try
Speaker 2: to get everybody in. Let's get down the business. Let's
Speaker 2: get to it quickly. Try to accommodate all Mike in Gloceston. Next, Mike,
Speaker 2: give us five names that haven't been called. Go ahead, Mike,
Speaker 2: let's do this quick. Jim Rice, Jim Rice is there, Yes,
Speaker 2: Sir David Ortiz. David Ortiz is there. You're two for two.
Speaker 3: Pedro Martinez.
Speaker 2: Pedro Martinez is there. You're three for three.
Speaker 3: All right, let's do a little cam neely.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're four for four.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: I gotta dig deep.
Speaker 2: This is fun, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me go. Dave Cowens.
Speaker 2: I think you hit five for five. Dave Cowens has
Speaker 2: also been on the program. So you got five for five. Mike,
Speaker 2: You're a winner. You're a winner. I hope you get
Speaker 2: the book. You'll enjoy the book too. Let me tell
Speaker 2: you that's a you did a great job, Mike, because
Speaker 2: a lot of the easy names were the most obvious
Speaker 2: names are off the board. All right, man, Yeah, thanks
Speaker 2: keep going.
Speaker 3: I could keep going.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say you gave a hint, because there
Speaker 5: are a lot of big baseball names from the last
Speaker 5: thirty years. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Jim Rice was.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no more, no more. You're done. You
Speaker 2: won your prize. It's it's a great Nightside T shirt.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be coming your way. We get it to
Speaker 2: you in a few days. Nothing bigger than an Excel Okay,
Speaker 2: simple as that. If it's gonna be bigger than next one,
Speaker 2: get it for your wife. Fair enough, Thanks Mike, don't
Speaker 2: hang out, all right, and who's gonna take care you.
Speaker 2: Let's go next to Pat in West Roxbury. Pat, you
Speaker 2: were next on Nightside.
Speaker 5: Go right ahead, Hey Dan, how you doing a long
Speaker 5: time listener?
Speaker 2: Well, first time caller, first time caller.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Well, we.
Speaker 2: Got to give you a quick round of applause from
Speaker 2: our studio audience. I think that all right at this moment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there it is the studio audience. They were, so go ahead.
Speaker 5: Uh, I'm gonna go with Tommy Hudson.
Speaker 2: That's great. Tommy's a great guy. He's been on the show,
Speaker 2: you know. Tommy and his post career became a wonderful painter,
Speaker 2: and I knew Tommy really well, great guy.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, all right, Johnny Busick.
Speaker 2: Yep, Busick is in there. Yep, absolutely all right, my
Speaker 2: man before me.
Speaker 5: Just he took like three of my picks here, so
Speaker 5: that can happen.
Speaker 2: That's what happens nights like this.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, I but I put a couple of extra
Speaker 5: ones on there. How about Ron Burton?
Speaker 2: No, unfortunately, Ron Burton one of the Patriots, I think
Speaker 2: the Patriots first draft choice back in the day out
Speaker 2: of Northwestern. I'm sorry, but but that's you.
Speaker 6: It's time.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 2: Do you get what the do over? Okay, here's what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do for you. Because you're a first time caller. Uh,
Speaker 2: and I hope you're gonna become a regular caller. You've
Speaker 2: got two for two, right, okay, so I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: you one due over, but you got to hit three
Speaker 2: in a row, so you get one one. I'm being
Speaker 2: being more generous than I should be.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, that's fine. How about Johnny havelecheck havelet check.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's a it's a high No. No, he was
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. Come on, bet Uh, that's at the next
Speaker 2: next time we'll get a contest for you. A good, good,
Speaker 2: good effort. Okay, thanks, Pat, got.
Speaker 5: To run about Chris Nyland.
Speaker 2: He's my buddy. He should be on that list, buddy, Thanks, Thanks,
Speaker 2: was here to be of the Montreal Canadians list. Mike
Speaker 2: and Plymouth. Mike want to get you in here, and
Speaker 2: I want to get Rick and Cambridge.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Mike, Okay, Dan, here we go. Ready, fill Usposito.
Speaker 2: Yepes is on the list. You're one for one. Ray
Speaker 2: Bork Ray book was already mentioned.
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, didn't get a do over.
Speaker 5: I didn't hear Bork.
Speaker 3: I would listen.
Speaker 5: I didn't hear him called honestly.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be nice. I'm gonna be nice. But
Speaker 2: you still got to hit four in a row. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Robert Parrish.
Speaker 2: Parish is on the list. Jerry Cheevers, Nope, you're dead. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Cheeves was good, no doubt, arguably might have might have made.
Speaker 3: It, but sorry, go ahead. Didn't quite make it.
Speaker 2: Didn't quite make it. That's Marty Gilpin. All right, Mike,
Speaker 2: going to try to get a couple more in Thanks,
Speaker 2: man to you soon, all right, good try Rick is
Speaker 2: in Cambridge. Rick, you might be the last one because
Speaker 2: you and one more. Let's be quick.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Rick, Yes, sir, real quick, Bowie.
Speaker 2: No, you're I'll give you. I'll give you. Since I
Speaker 2: gave the other guys one, I'll give you one. So
Speaker 2: that that's okay. You gotta do over give it.
Speaker 4: Kevin McHale.
Speaker 2: Kevin McHale is on the list, so you won for one.
Speaker 2: Go ahead?
Speaker 4: Calm Fish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fiskers on the list here where I just gotta
Speaker 2: check them off at some point. Yeah, Carlton's here here,
Speaker 2: you're two for two. Go ahead.
Speaker 4: Derek Sanderson.
Speaker 2: Nope, that's that's the that is the Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: He's not on the list.
Speaker 3: Not a list. You gotta You got a hockey team
Speaker 3: that's had one hundred years of uh you got one
Speaker 3: hundred years of hockey there. There's a bunch of.
Speaker 2: Great hockey players that have that have been missed here.
Speaker 2: All right, Rick, I gotta.
Speaker 3: Let you go.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get one more in your.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Rick, appreciate trying. Ritchie and Merrimack. You're the
Speaker 2: last caller of this hour. You go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Okay, jeez, I've probably got names.
Speaker 2: But anyways, well, you got to pick the best ones. Now, okay,
Speaker 2: we we're on thin ice here. Go ahead, go ahead, No, No,
Speaker 2: you're Ozero for two. When you're dead, go who are
Speaker 2: the others you picked?
Speaker 4: Well, then I'll go for Dewey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dwight Evans should be in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: in my opinion. Unfore, you missed too, so you're we're
Speaker 2: dead in the water. But that's it. But I'm glad that.
Speaker 3: One more at you.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 3: He probably didn't write down, but this guy was good.
Speaker 3: His name was Louis Aparicio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a white played there like one season, fill
Speaker 2: down round and third base and cost him. I think,
Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead, Mary, you know we.
Speaker 3: Got to give you one. I cannot believe that no
Speaker 3: one has mentioned Paul Pierce, Yeah Pierce, no one's mentioned.
Speaker 2: No one's mentioned Wade Boggs.
Speaker 3: Bobby Door, Andre Tippett.
Speaker 2: No one's mentioned Jason Tatum, Eddie.
Speaker 3: Chris Speakertum for goodness sake, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's why I just hit Tatum. Yeah all right. Uh.
Speaker 2: Thanks to the callers, Richie and rich I wish I
Speaker 2: could have pulled you across the finish line. We do
Speaker 2: have some winners. Thank you so much. My friend.
Speaker 3: Do you want to mention my uh get the book?
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Speaker 2: Sounds great, Marty, thank you so much. Again. Give us
Speaker 2: the Facebook page, because everybody that's the easiest one. God,
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Speaker 2: Marty, this was so much fun. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2: We will talk again, Okay.
Speaker 3: My pleasure. I enjoyed it. Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: having me, and thanks to all your callers.
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it. Will we get back. We're gonna
Speaker 2: step back and we're gonna ask you tonight. We have
Speaker 2: a very special question for the twentieth hour. Everybody should
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