1 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: And welcome everyone. Hi, How are you happy? What is this? 2 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,560 This is Wednesday, the twenty second day of July, year 3 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,119 of our Lord, twenty twenty six. My name is Tom Sullivan, 4 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:39,359 and we've got, uh, you know, we've got a lot 5 00:00:39,399 --> 00:00:42,719 going today, very busy Wednesday. I hope you're having a 6 00:00:42,759 --> 00:00:45,479 good one. I just want to remind you we got 7 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,920 all of our technical issues finally solved and the financial 8 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Friday we can we can get it up and running again. 9 00:00:56,079 --> 00:00:58,320 We barely got it running and all of a sudden glitch. 10 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:01,960 But the way it works is if you have any 11 00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:06,799 questions or comments or observations about anything in the financial world, 12 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:11,480 about your bank, about your insurance company, about your mutual funds, 13 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,840 about your investment investment companies and the investments and the 14 00:01:16,879 --> 00:01:19,319 insurance and all the products that all these people sell, 15 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,920 about saving for retirement, saving for first homes, saving for 16 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,480 whatever you want to save for. 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Yeah, 37 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,240 I know, like hug hugging face. And so what happened 38 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:16,800 was they were testing security controls and AI was looking 39 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:21,159 around trying to figure out where all the flaws were 40 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:27,080 in this particular version of open Ai. And apparently it's 41 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,599 very good. All these AI platforms are very good at 42 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,560 going out and finding flaws in software. So that they 43 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:38,360 don't get hacked. So this thing was out looking around 44 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:42,039 and it figured out a way to get out of 45 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,439 the testing protocol and out into the Internet. So it's 46 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:53,800 searching around in the Internet trying to find some place 47 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:56,360 to hack to see if it could. And it hacked 48 00:03:56,479 --> 00:04:02,639 another tech firm and they obtained answers to questions probing 49 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:08,479 their cybersecurity skills. So this has caused a huge uproar 50 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:12,240 because the way that Hugging Face found out that there 51 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,160 was this hack was, of all things, they used AI 52 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:21,399 to figure out what happened, and AI said this chat 53 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:27,560 GPT artificial intelligence software, broke out of your virtual testing ground, 54 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,720 went out into the internet, found a place that could hack, 55 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,639 hacked it, and now we know because we used AI, 56 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,839 where exactly it did it, and how it did it 57 00:04:36,959 --> 00:04:40,360 everything else. So but it's causing a lot of people 58 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:47,560 to raise eyebrows. Here's the thing about about AI. I'm 59 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:51,040 worried about this because I've watched you know, did when 60 00:04:51,079 --> 00:04:54,040 did we start getting techy in this country? Late eighties? 61 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,920 Certainly in the nineties, Yeah, it was mid eighties. Let's 62 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:02,319 say Microsoft and all those companies were coming along. 63 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: And. 64 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: It was Yeah, it was the wild West, and we 65 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:14,120 learned together about security and hacking and some of those things, 66 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:19,399 and about people that are trying to get you to 67 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,120 divulge your passwords. There's all that stuff that goes on, 68 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,560 and we've learned together over the last thirty forty years 69 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,519 what to do and what not to do. So but 70 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:35,800 because it was the wild West, there wasn't any regulation 71 00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:41,600 on it. The companies here in the US have not 72 00:05:41,639 --> 00:05:45,720 only blossomed, they exploded. The Internet has become bigger and 73 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:49,240 better than anybody could have ever imagined because of the 74 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:55,560 fact that we did not regulate them. Now, granted, it 75 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,000 seems like every year Congress drags a bunch of executives 76 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:06,480 from big tech over to is testify on something. And 77 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,519 what they're really looking for is they're looking for these 78 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,160 big tech companies because they're very wealthy to make big 79 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:19,360 donations to these members of Congress's campaigns. Follow the money 80 00:06:19,399 --> 00:06:22,519 every single time. But you know who did regulate a 81 00:06:22,519 --> 00:06:27,360 lot of this, Europe. So there are some exceptions, but 82 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,240 they're recent exceptions. But that's why you don't see any 83 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,879 big tech companies coming out of Europe. Like I said, 84 00:06:34,879 --> 00:06:40,720 there's some, but basically Europe squashed the ability for anybody 85 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:45,519 that was techie to do anything worthwhile. In Europe, a 86 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,879 lot of the Europeans that were tech smart moved here, 87 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:54,160 set up shop here. So what's happening now with AI 88 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:56,800 is there's a lot of that. I've seen the polls. 89 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,360 People are very, very worried about AI. Well, guess what, 90 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:04,240 there were a lot of people that were worried with 91 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:08,040 the invention of the light bulb. They were worried about 92 00:07:08,399 --> 00:07:11,600 the invention of the automobile. They were worried about People 93 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,319 worry about anything new, any kind of change. And yes, 94 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:23,199 did electric light bulbs cause some fires, probably, but better 95 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,120 than the lanterns with oil in it. It's built and 96 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:31,759 burned down buildings and cars, Yeah, they cause accident. People 97 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,439 cause accidents. Cars don't cause that. People do in any case. 98 00:07:37,279 --> 00:07:41,079 So it's not perfect. But what I don't want is 99 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,680 I don't want the I wish you would get behind 100 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,399 this person because there's somebody that's looking at us and 101 00:07:48,439 --> 00:07:52,600 they're licking their chops about all of this. People are worried. 102 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:55,319 In the United States, a heavy majority of people are 103 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:01,720 worried about AI. It's China. China is going good. They're 104 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,079 gonna put a lot of pressure on their lawmakers, and 105 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,160 lawmakers are going to write a bunch of rules and 106 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:09,160 they're they're gonna and this is the kind of thing 107 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:13,639 that happens where AI broke out of their cage and 108 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:16,920 went wild and found a place he could hack. But 109 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,759 what was crazy about it is AI was you to 110 00:08:19,839 --> 00:08:25,519 determine what happened. So I'm all, I am very bullish 111 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,399 on AI. Will there be mistakes, yes, will there be problems, 112 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:32,039 of course, But I'm just telling you we're up in 113 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:38,279 a race between the United States and China on everything AI, 114 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:43,039 and I don't want China getting getting the win on 115 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,240 this one. In Netty Case, Claire Duffy reports on Tech 116 00:08:49,039 --> 00:08:52,919 and she kind of explains better than I can what happened. 117 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kate, this kind of sounds like the plot of 118 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:57,039 a sci fi movie, but it is indeed happening in 119 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,480 real life. This is the first major example that we've 120 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:03,519 seen of an AI model independently conducting a hack outside 121 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,840 of human control, and this is something that experts had 122 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,519 been warning about. This is also driving some of these 123 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,240 conversations that we've heard, including at the White House, about 124 00:09:12,279 --> 00:09:16,279 increasing controls and oversight of AI models because of the 125 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,159 risk of exactly this sort of hack. Now, what happened 126 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,120 here is that open ai was testing these models. It 127 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,960 had lowered its normal safeguards in order to test these 128 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,919 two models, which is GPT five point six Soul and 129 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:32,879 also a new unreleased, more advanced model. It lowered it 130 00:09:32,919 --> 00:09:35,399 safeguards because it thought it was testing in what is 131 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,720 called a sandbox it contained essentially virtual lab. But when 132 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,120 it gave these models a task to test their hacking capabilities, 133 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,840 the models went to such great lengths to complete that 134 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,840 task that it found vulnerabilities that allowed them to access 135 00:09:49,879 --> 00:09:53,279 the open Internet outside of this controlled testing environment. They 136 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:56,000 then hacked into hugging face, which is a platform that 137 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,840 hosts all kinds of AI models. They used stolen credentials 138 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,240 to in loggins to navigate that platform, and ultimately this 139 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,080 hack was identified by hugging Face in part because of 140 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,879 artificial intelligence, which they used to shut it down. But 141 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,159 this is a huge warning sign for this industry. In 142 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,240 a statement, open ai said, we consider this incident to 143 00:10:18,279 --> 00:10:21,919 be an unprecedented cyber incident involving state of the art 144 00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:26,200 capabilities and are responding accordingly. We are sharing preliminary findings 145 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,639 at this stage to help defenders understand what happened and 146 00:10:29,799 --> 00:10:32,840 to help calibrate on what models are now capable of. 147 00:10:32,879 --> 00:10:34,480 I think that is the real key here is that 148 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,919 models are now capable of conducting these kinds of hacks independently. 149 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:41,519 The CEO of Hugging Face said that the company is 150 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,279 working with open Ai to figure out exactly what happened here. 151 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,000 In a statement, he said that they suspected last week 152 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,360 cyber attack may have come from a frontier lab given 153 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:53,600 the sophistication of this agent. He also went on to 154 00:10:53,639 --> 00:10:56,879 say that we strongly believe there was no malicious intent 155 00:10:57,039 --> 00:10:59,559 on their part. It's quite mind blowing that all of 156 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,960 this happen and autonomously. I think mind blowing is one 157 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,879 word that you could use for this. Terrifying perhaps another 158 00:11:05,919 --> 00:11:07,440 word that could describe the situation. 159 00:11:10,159 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: No, not terrifying. What what happened? They learned from this. 160 00:11:15,879 --> 00:11:19,720 First of all, they lowered their control, their their protections, 161 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,399 so they were trying to see it's exactly what would 162 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:27,840 happen by reducing their security protocols and it took off. 163 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,960 So anyway, I wanted to I wanted to share it 164 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,919 with you because there's a lot of people that are 165 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,360 going to be all nervous Nelly's about this thing. I 166 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,919 think this was a great learning experience. Will there be problems, 167 00:11:40,919 --> 00:11:44,600 will there be mistakes, of course, but I don't want 168 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,480 China to beat this. And in Congress, they just don't 169 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,879 know what they're doing. They'll probably come up with them regulations, 170 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,320 and I hope they're minimal. And speaking of worry, warts Uh, 171 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,879 that's the Mayor of New York, Mayor, ma'am Donnie. He 172 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,039 Mayor ze is there calling him now to be cool. 173 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,919 He I don't know what's the matter with this guy. 174 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,320 I think yesterday I played for you, ma'am DOMI coming 175 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,279 out and saying, I'll tell you what, BBT netting Yah, 176 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,840 who ever steps foot in New York, I'm going to 177 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:25,120 have him arrested. Yes, well, bb Netanyah, who the Prime 178 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,840 Minister of Israel comes to New York every at least 179 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,200 every year for the UN General Assembly. It's in September 180 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:35,960 of every year. Ma'am Donnie is threatening him, came out twice, 181 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:40,919 gave two interviews about how he's going to arrest Netanya 182 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,799 who guess what. He doesn't have the authority or the 183 00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:50,919 power to do that. But this is This is him 184 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,519 now admitting which I don't know why he even did this, 185 00:12:53,639 --> 00:12:55,480 but he came out. I said, oh, guess what. I 186 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,559 guess I don't have the authority, but I still don't 187 00:12:57,639 --> 00:12:58,120 like him. 188 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: Benjamin Natania, who is not well come in New York City, 189 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,240 nor is any other war criminal at large. As I've said, 190 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,519 I agree with the ICC the Benjamin Netanya, who should 191 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:10,559 be arrested and tried for his crimes, as I do 192 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,600 for anyone else charged by the ICC. My administration has 193 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:18,960 reviewed every avenue available under applicable law to determine whether 194 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,159 New York City could execute the International Criminal Court's arrest 195 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,279 warrant if Benjamin Netanya, who came here. It is clear 196 00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:27,759 that we do not have the independent legal authority to 197 00:13:27,919 --> 00:13:31,639 enforce this want. The federal government, however, does, and I 198 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,559 call on them to join the ICC and execute this want. 199 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,039 And I want to be equally clear Benjamin Netanya, who 200 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,440 is not welcome in New York City, nor is any 201 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,840 other war criminal at large. 202 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,279 Speaker 1: First of all, we are we would not sign on 203 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:51,279 to the International Criminal Court. It's an outside They're trying 204 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,759 to play their own government rules. We don't. We have 205 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:57,399 our own courts and we abide by them. So no, 206 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,879 we're not. The federal government's not going to do any 207 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:03,080 thing with the ICC. They have it and they won't. 208 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:07,159 But your idea about the fact that you won't allow 209 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:12,840 war criminals, I he's not a war criminal other than 210 00:14:12,879 --> 00:14:16,639 the ICC said that he was. But that's not something 211 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,919 that anybody else pays attention to. When'd you think that 212 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:24,759 if you were the mayor of New York or any place, 213 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,320 that you would first check with your legal staff and say, 214 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,360 do we have the do we have the authority to 215 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:34,200 do this before you just open your mouth and sound well, 216 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,639 not very smart, But that's he's a he's a Democrat, socialist, 217 00:14:39,639 --> 00:14:42,679 and he believes that whatever he says is right. I 218 00:14:42,679 --> 00:14:46,279 guess the thing that I need to share with the 219 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,600 mayor is some of the notable figures who have come 220 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:54,039 to New York, and I don't know if you call 221 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,399 him welcome, but they're certainly not arrested that have come 222 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,600 for the annual UN General Assembly. Fidel Castro came for 223 00:15:02,759 --> 00:15:07,320 a number of sessions. Yeah, no, he was. He was 224 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,399 a pretty big deal. He gave almost a five hour 225 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,279 speech at one one of the sessions. Uh Momar Gaddafi 226 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,440 from Libya. He uh, Well, in fact, the guy who 227 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:24,840 cuts my hair, Uh cut Momar's hair when he was 228 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:26,960 in New York. He liked, he liked the guy that 229 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,879 cut my hair. He got his hair cut from the 230 00:15:29,919 --> 00:15:32,200 guy that cuts my hair. So we have a little 231 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:37,240 connection there with the late great Libyan dictator Robert mcgabi 232 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:45,080 from Zimbabwe, who you know, lots of accusations of repression, 233 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:50,639 economic collapse on the people. Saddam Hussein came for the 234 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:56,080 UN General Assembly. Uh, and my mood Almi a Didjan, 235 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:00,559 the former Iranian president. He was a carra man. He 236 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:08,519 was all over town just insulting everybody he could. So Maduro, 237 00:16:08,879 --> 00:16:11,120 well he Maduro's back in New York for Center. Yeah, 238 00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:13,759 that's another whole story, and we can go down the list. 239 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:16,360 There's a lot of bad dudes that show up for 240 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:20,759 the UN General Assembly every single September, but ma'am Donnie 241 00:16:20,799 --> 00:16:25,159 Man Donnie is not you know nothing about them, just 242 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,480 the guy that happens to be the Prime Minister of Israel. 243 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,600 And one more comment about ma'am Donnie. He was being 244 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:36,120 interviewed and he keeps talking about how he is for 245 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,080 the working class and it's all about the working class. 246 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:44,320 And I always think whenever I hear him say that, 247 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,919 or others say that as well, I don't know if 248 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:53,279 you're working, I'm working. Does that mean that he's for me? 249 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:58,200 I kind of doubt it. But this reporter asked him 250 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,399 the question, if. 251 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,039 Speaker 5: You have to work to pay your bills? I think 252 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:06,559 that that is one definition of being a part of 253 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:07,400 the working class. 254 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: So that's everyone with the W two? 255 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: Is that is that kind of ten ninety nine s too? 256 00:17:13,279 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 5: I think it's it's I'm less interested. So someone making 257 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,240 two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year's working class. 258 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,759 I mean I haven't sat at home and asked myself 259 00:17:21,799 --> 00:17:24,160 where it starts and stops. What I would say is 260 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,039 for those who are working to try and afford the 261 00:17:29,079 --> 00:17:31,799 basic dignities of life and aren't able to do so. 262 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:34,839 I think that that is also a working class. And 263 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,359 oftentimes we're asked of how we divide this country. I 264 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,359 think there's only one majority in this country. It's the 265 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,200 working class. 266 00:17:41,279 --> 00:17:44,319 Speaker 1: Well, I agree with the mayor. The working class is 267 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,200 the majority. Most of us to work. I mean some 268 00:17:47,319 --> 00:17:51,200 don't because they well, there's the there's the mallingerers. But 269 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,599 most most people that don't work are because of illness 270 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,720 or injury, or their senior citizens or I don't know, 271 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:00,400 but most people do work. And so when he talks 272 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,920 about the working class, then she so she heard her say, well, 273 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,519 what about somebody making two hundred fifty thousand dollars a year? 274 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,519 Speaker 5: Oh? 275 00:18:08,279 --> 00:18:14,279 Speaker 1: Oh, well, oh, he had no idea how to answer 276 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,799 that one. He had no idea how to Then he 277 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,480 went from people that are working to pay their bills. 278 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,079 I think that's most people, and then to the two 279 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,279 hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. He's going, well, 280 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:29,359 the people that are what do you say, struggling. A 281 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,599 lot of people struggle. I'll tell you one thing. When 282 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,839 I did taxes for a living, I was I did. 283 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,359 I was really educated by There was a lot of 284 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,880 wealthy people. I did a lot of wealthy people's taxes 285 00:18:43,279 --> 00:18:46,079 as far as their incomes. Doctors, lawyers, you name it, 286 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,839 high income people. And a lot of them were doing fine. 287 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,000 But there were a number of them that were in 288 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:57,160 debt up to their ears. They may have well, they 289 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,400 were putting on the show. They drove a fancy car, 290 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,680 they had a bits, they had more debt than you 291 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,519 can imagine. They could barely afford the payments for all 292 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:10,920 the things that they had. So just because you're making 293 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,359 two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year doesn't mean 294 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,440 that life is great. Probably is, but there's a lot 295 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,000 of people out there that are up to their ears 296 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:25,359 in debt. So, ma'am, Donnie's basically he comes down to 297 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,200 he's a phony because he doesn't know. He doesn't have 298 00:19:29,279 --> 00:19:33,160 a definition. He hasn't thought about what is the income 299 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,960 classification of begin and end on the working class, but 300 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:42,400 he goes around talking about the working class all the time. 301 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:45,519 I think he should come up with a definition, my 302 00:19:45,599 --> 00:19:49,240 humble opinion. One more story that actually is an old 303 00:19:49,319 --> 00:19:53,880 story that's coming back around again the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, 304 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,720 Savannah Guthrie's mother. Everybody was on the case down there 305 00:19:57,759 --> 00:20:02,319 in Tucson, Arizona. Nothing could not find anything, could not 306 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,599 find her. She still has not been located. We assume 307 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,240 that she has passed on. But now the word is 308 00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:17,519 coming out even more about the Pima County sheriff just 309 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,079 has botched this whole thing. Josh Ritter, who's a defense lawyer, 310 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,079 fills us. 311 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,839 Speaker 6: In what sounds like a lot could have been done differently. 312 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,079 But one of the things that we're finding out more 313 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,440 now than ever is how much time was squandered early on. 314 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,799 One of the fundamental principles of criminal investigation is that 315 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,279 time is of the essence and you have to move quickly, 316 00:20:39,559 --> 00:20:42,519 especially in a case like this. We remember early on 317 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:44,839 they thought they were dealing with the case where there 318 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,079 still could have been she still could have been recovered alive. 319 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,640 So the idea that four days, that's an eon when 320 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,799 you're talking about criminal investigation. That four days passed before 321 00:20:55,839 --> 00:20:59,559 the FBI was brought in, and we already know that 322 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:03,559 evidence was lost because we now understand that they have 323 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:06,880 video and still's recovered from the day that Nancy was 324 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,680 abducted and from a prior time that this same suspect 325 00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:13,720 was there three weeks prior, where they don't have video 326 00:21:13,759 --> 00:21:16,319 because it had been lost. So we don't know if 327 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,000 there were other incidents in which this individual had been 328 00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:21,440 out to the house before, but we certainly know that 329 00:21:21,559 --> 00:21:26,000 video from that prior three week prior incident has been lost. 330 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,359 That is huge, especially when we're looking at this case now. 331 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,720 It seems like the only piece of evidence that they 332 00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:35,960 have that still is creating any kind of leads or 333 00:21:36,079 --> 00:21:39,119 evidence for them to work off of. Is this video evidence? 334 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Aw I've never heard that before that they had They 335 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:46,920 had video, and they had still shots of the suspect 336 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,400 from three weeks before, but that has all been lost because, 337 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,759 according to Josh River, the sheriff of b mccounty was 338 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,279 too interested in becoming the hero of the day and 339 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:05,160 not really bringing in the FBI. Here's Josh. 340 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 6: The only thing I'm left with is ego, pride and ego, 341 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,279 the idea that this sheriff seems to have wanted to 342 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:15,359 owned this from the beginning because I think he thought 343 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,480 at the time this was going to be quickly resolved 344 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:20,519 and that he would be the kind of loan hero 345 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,720 in all of this. And that is not only sad, 346 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:28,000 but incredibly irresponsible, because you're dealing with someone's life and 347 00:22:28,039 --> 00:22:30,559 this isn't about who's going to get the headlines or 348 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,039 who's going to get the most time on camera. This 349 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,640 was about saving someone's life, and to not bring in 350 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,079 resources when you have the entire federal government at your 351 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,440 beck and call. Essentially, they were offering whatever they could 352 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,880 to help and he's simply turning it down at least 353 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,599 in those early days, is just unforgivable in my view. 354 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,079 Speaker 1: I think it's unforgivable in the Guthrie family view too, 355 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,839 so bad, bad, bad, bad bad story about the fact 356 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,480 that they maybe could have found her if they hadn't 357 00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:09,799 been so slow. Uh, you want to talk about nukes, 358 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,799 because that's the big story obviously with Iran is we 359 00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:16,640 don't want them to have a nuclear weapon, but guess 360 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:23,440 who's getting Guess who's getting nukes for wink wink power generation. 361 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:26,799 Isn't that what Iran has always says, Oh, no, we're 362 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:29,799 just we're just creating enriched uranium so that we can 363 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,839 have nuclear power. And they're way over You don't need 364 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,039 as much as nowhere near as much uranium enrichment as 365 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:42,240 they have. But now apparently the president is about ready 366 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,039 or has signed a deal to allow Saudi Arabia to 367 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:56,799 have nuke enriched nuclear radiation for nuke power. But well, 368 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,960 let's look, there's a whole bunch of reaction to this. 369 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:01,759 Let's start with our Secretary of State Mark or Rubio, 370 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:04,039 doesn't have a less. 371 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 7: Than gold standard agreement in the Middle East, run. 372 00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 8: A risk, well, I'm not going to pine directly on 373 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,039 that agreement. We're going to put out even when the 374 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:14,680 moment is appropriate, we'll put out dot and writing. We 375 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,920 will have to do it with Congress anyways, so I 376 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,319 will certainly do it publicly, but suffice it to say, 377 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:21,559 the US is not going to reach any agreement with 378 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:24,079 any country in the world that leads to the risk 379 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:24,799 of perforation. 380 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,759 Speaker 1: Well, my longtime theory has been that every country eventually 381 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:32,000 will be again nuclear power for weapons. They just will 382 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,519 every new weapon that has come along, from the bow 383 00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:38,880 and arrow to the gatling gun to the nuclear weapon, 384 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,359 that everybody will eventually have it. David Roady, who's a 385 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,960 New York reporter, had this background about Saudi Arabia and 386 00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:53,240 the US and nuke power. 387 00:24:53,319 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 7: Her point, it's unnecessary to go for it here. But 388 00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,680 Saudi Arabia doesn't need to enrich its own uranium. Why 389 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:03,240 the United Arab Emirates has nuclear power plants, and what 390 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:06,000 they do is bring in uranium that's been enriched by 391 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:08,640 the United States are enriched by Russia. This is a 392 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:15,039 standing protocol. So why is this is just unnecessary, particularly 393 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,039 allowing Saudi Arabia to enrich uranium. We can ship them 394 00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:20,720 enriched uranium and control it. 395 00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:23,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I heard that, that was wild. So United 396 00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:27,400 Arab Emirates has nuclear power, but we bring the enriched 397 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:31,359 uranium to them. We delivered it to them. If Saudi 398 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,039 Saudis wanner, we could do the same thing, say well, 399 00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:36,559 put your order in and we'll give you so much 400 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,599 enriched uranium for your power plants. That way we control 401 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:45,880 the situation as supposed to the situation in Iran. Rett 402 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,039 McGirk also weighed on this. 403 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, Jim, I think folks getting ahead of themselves. Let's 404 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,559 let's see the details. So we negotiate in the Biden administration. 405 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,640 As part of those negotiations, almost hosteing my colleague, the NSA, 406 00:25:57,759 --> 00:26:00,160 the National Nuclear Security Agency that's part of Energy, was 407 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,160 a part of this, a very comprehensive civil nuclear agreement 408 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,559 with Saudi Arabia. Now enrichment is important because the Saudis 409 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:09,559 really want that capability. That goes back to the JCPA. 410 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,559 Their position was if Irankan and rich, we should be 411 00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,680 able to enrich. What we negotiated was an arrangement where 412 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,200 if we found uranium deposits in Saudi Arabia, there'd being 413 00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:22,359 Richmond facility in Saudi Arabia, a US Enrichmond facility, and 414 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,880 there were a number of details and arrangements about how 415 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,279 that would actually work in practice. And the idea is 416 00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:31,160 that we in the US we still import our nuclear 417 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,079 fuel about twenty percent or a little more from Russia, 418 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,400 so we do need the fuel. The idea was here, 419 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,119 this would be very carefully negotiated arrangement. If all of 420 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,160 those details are in this agreement, I think people will 421 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,839 be a little more comfortable. But I would say one 422 00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:49,599 important thing. This was negotiated as part of a comprehensive 423 00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:54,559 regional package that included normalization of relations being in Israel 424 00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:57,160 and Saudi Arabia, and a quirk of history here in 425 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,720 October sixth of twenty twenty three, I had the Saudis 426 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,920 in my office in the White House talking about kind 427 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,519 of the final arrangements of this, and it was a 428 00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,839 Hamas attack that obviously kind of wiped this off the agenda. 429 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,200 I know President Trump wants to get back to that 430 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,039 perhaps after the Israeli elections coming up on October twenty seven. 431 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,799 Speaker 10: He's giving the deal. Prior to this is the Arabia 432 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:19,359 makines Is apecially, so I would. I mean, my question 433 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,319 is why now is what is kind of going on 434 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,799 behind the scenes. I know we need some things from 435 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:27,039 Saudi Arabia for the campaign that were prosecuting against iron. 436 00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:29,000 So there's the questions I would have. But if the 437 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:32,880 details are similar to what was negotiating and Biden administration, 438 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,440 I think the nuclear proliferation concerns are probably less risky 439 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,480 than what some of like tastes saying, we got to 440 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:39,759 see it. 441 00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: So he's talking about the fact that he was in 442 00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:46,480 four administrations, he served for presidents, and he said, this 443 00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:49,680 goes back many administrations have wanted to do a deal 444 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,599 with Saudi Arabia to allow them to have in riched 445 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:58,559 uranium for their nuclear power, and I again, it goes 446 00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,920 to my theory that eventually everybody will have it. Anyway, 447 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,519 we're fighting this war with a ronabout they can never 448 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:07,680 have a nuclear weapon. I'll bet you a large launcher 449 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,440 to drive up. We know that they will in the 450 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,240 next twenty years have nuclear power. It's the rest of 451 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:17,400 the countries in the Middle East are going to have it, 452 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:22,920 and Saudi Arabia apparently prior administrations in addition to President 453 00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:26,680 so a lot of this go. Oh, Trump and Saudi 454 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,640 Arabia they're tight. No, this has been going on long 455 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,559 before Trump showed up in the White House. We talked 456 00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,759 an awful lot about the war with Iran and that 457 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,640 is still it's getting worse there. We're expanding it, they're 458 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,200 expanding it. But we haven't talked much about the Houthis. 459 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,880 And they're down there on the where there's another choke 460 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,640 point for the Red Sea, and that is where the 461 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,880 Houthis are located, and they have shot at ships in 462 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,559 the past. Kimberly Dozer, who's a security analyst, kind of 463 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,279 brings U up to data on what the Hoothy's are 464 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:01,480 doing and what they're all about. 465 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,319 Speaker 2: The Jutis sent a message directly to shipping companies and 466 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,720 first they said any Saudi shipping can't come through, and 467 00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:12,880 then they said any ships that dock at a Sudi port. 468 00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:15,559 You know, the last time the Juties did this though, 469 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:19,240 they didn't just hit the ships that they said they 470 00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:22,880 might target. They accidentally hit some other ships as well. 471 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,519 So if you're a shipping company with a multimillion dollar 472 00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,279 cargo load, you're either going to take it through the 473 00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,680 Suez Canal or you're if you were going to go 474 00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:35,599 through the Suez Canal from the outside, now you're going 475 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,599 to go around the Horn of Africa. This adds costs. 476 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,799 We're talking about something like ten to twenty percent of 477 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,920 global shipping going through the Suez Canal, which has to 478 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,640 get through the Babel Mendeb. This is going to add 479 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,240 up pretty fast if there isn't some resolution. And the 480 00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:56,559 Houtis have a couple of reasons they're doing this. Part 481 00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:59,160 of it is, yes, they're doing this in cooperation with 482 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,759 Iran to press the United States, but also the internationally 483 00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:08,680 recognized MNY government backed by Saudi Arabia targeted the Hoodies 484 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,319 airport earlier this month, so that's there's a local reason 485 00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:16,559 and a larger reason that the Hooties are getting stuck 486 00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:17,240 into this fight. 487 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if they blocked the Red Sea, then watch 488 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,759 oil gas and oil prices go even higher. But today 489 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:27,160 I'll give you the rundown from TRIPLEA. The national average 490 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,039 for gas is now four dollars and six cents. That's 491 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:36,519 up seventeen cents from a week ago. Diesel five eighteen 492 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,839 that's up twenty five cents from a week ago. California 493 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,519 has taken over again as the number one most expensive state. 494 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,119 Average gas price for the cheap stuff in California five 495 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,359 dollars fifty five cents. That surpasses Hawaii, who's at five 496 00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:57,160 point forty three. And if you're in California and you 497 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,200 want to go to Yosemite, it's beautiful national but that 498 00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:05,680 part of California the gas there, the chief stuff six 499 00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:10,279 dollars and seventy cents for a gallon of gas in 500 00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:16,880 the Yosemite area, and other things going on today. I 501 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,680 need to make it very clear that it was a 502 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:29,119 somber day over in Delaware where the dignified transfer took place. 503 00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:36,039 Again today the President was there, four soldiers in their 504 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,200 coffins coming back from the Middle East. So far we 505 00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:46,759 have eighteen military members dead, four hundred and thirty wounded. 506 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:54,319 And as usual, that is watching the President and the 507 00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:59,359 top echelon of Washington power military power at the Air 508 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,480 Force Base in Dover saluting as the bodies came off 509 00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:08,240 of a C seventeen. It just grabs your heart every 510 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,960 single time. So let's look at Wall Street and again 511 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:17,359 let me remind you Financial Friday. We need questions, comments, observations, 512 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:24,440 whatever you want regarding money investing, insurance, stocks, bonds, mutual funds. 513 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:29,599 You name it well, the taxes will try and help 514 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,440 you with it. The phone number is eight five five 515 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,440 two nine five sixty six hundred. Call that number, leave 516 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:41,079 your comment or question eight five five two nine five 517 00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:45,640 sixty six hundred. You can also find that number on 518 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,640 my website, which is Tom Sullivan dot com. Meantime, Wall 519 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:56,240 Street today was a big honor. Uh Dow finished down 520 00:32:56,359 --> 00:33:02,319 five points at fifty two thousand, two nineteen s and 521 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,440 P down ten points. NASDAK down one hundred and forty 522 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,880 six points, so not much movement today there. The price 523 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,599 of goal was up sixty one dollars now at four 524 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,880 thousand and one thirty eight, and oil just keeps going higher, 525 00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,279 up almost two and a half dollars today, up to 526 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,519 a just under eighty seven dollars now for one barrel 527 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,640 of West Texas Intermediate crude. That's it for today. Thank 528 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,519 you for coming by. We will be here again tomorrow 529 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:34,839 and I hope to see you then.