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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody.

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Speaker 2: This is Chris Hancock from Newfoundland, Canada, and you hosers

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are listening to the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast. Sorry,

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but I think it's about time that these guys have

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put a spotlight on Canada's national treasure, Brian Adams. Now,

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grab your Tim Hortons double double or your case of

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Molson Canadian and get ready for a good time.

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Speaker 3: D it's the summer of twenty twenty four. Do you

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remember when you got your first sixth.

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Speaker 1: Street Yeah, I got it at the five and dime,

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played it til my fingers bled. It was a summer

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of eighty nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeo, Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Shirley Can't Be

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Serious Podcast. Today we are going to be talking about

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one of the biggest albums from nineteen eighty four, Bryan

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Adams Reckless Guys.

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Speaker 1: This album is so freaking baller. I love this album.

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Speaker 3: How is it that so many great songs on this

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album and it's kind of low key popular.

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Speaker 1: Well, we we talked about that, you know, yesterday, when

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we were talking when we when we pre recorded, right,

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when we pre talked about stuff which we should never do,

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but we I just I was like this is a

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guy who just he never got into the glam makeup.

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He never had the big hair, he never had the

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sexcapades or the drug addictions. I mean he looks like

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a guy that I could have gone to high school with, right,

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I mean, just just every day American, albeit Canadian guy.

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He's not a big, like iconic face. I mean, everybody

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knows him, but it's not he's not a character. Right.

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Speaker 3: You don't remember when he punched out the valet at

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the hotel and was arrested for dui and all that.

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Speaker 1: Stuff, right, yeah, not caught it a urine a'll doing

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inappropriate things or exactly inappropriate people. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's just I told you that, like five of the

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videos from this album, he's wearing a white T shirt,

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blue jeans, and tennis shoes. He's just happy to be

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up there on stage. He doesn't care about looking like

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a rock star.

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Speaker 1: What you said was he he looks like the introductory

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skin on ready players. But hey, I mean, if you

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find a fifth it works, it works, right. I mean

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he's dating a thirty something year old model right now.

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Speaker 3: The dude's what is he sixty five?

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Speaker 1: Now? He was he was born at historic date November fifth,

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nineteen fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: You know that this album was released on November fifth,

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nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, his twenty fifth birthday. Twenty fifth birthday, Yeah, red

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letter day in history.

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Speaker 3: It's a heck of a day for him, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. This guy is from Canada. He is probably on

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their Mount Rushmore of Canadian music artist tech. He might

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be on the Mount Rushmore of all entertainers. You know

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him and Michael J. Fox and John Candy all up

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there together.

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Speaker 3: That's right, like mister Canada.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: His parents are from England. His dad was in the military.

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Speaker 1: He was in the British military and then when they

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moved to Canada, he was in the Canadian military. And

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if I'm remembering right, he ended up at like working

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with the UN or something like that.

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Speaker 3: I know. I told you that it would be funny

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if he worked with Stuart Copland's dad. If you remember,

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Stuart Copland's dad was.

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Speaker 1: In the CIA, Yeah, overthrowing governments in the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: Brian Adams's dad is James Bond to Stuart Copland's dad's

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Speaker 1: That was awesome.

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Speaker 3: I find it interesting. So he was raised in Canada,

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first in Ottawa. Then he moved to Vancouver, him and

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Jim Vallance and Bruce bear Barron, which we're going to

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talk about here in a second. They kind of set

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up this hub of musical influence in Vancouver. Shout out

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to my buddy Cameron Eckert who lives in Vancouver right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've talked about this space that they

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recorded in several of the guys who are involved here,

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including Brian Adams. When we talked about get Ready for

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It Motley Crue, I find Jovie right. Yes, Brian Adams

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is singing back up on some of Motley Crue's songs

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Sticky Sweet, Isn't that nuts? Well, let's get into this album.

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It is too good not to dive into immediately from

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beginning to end, this is a stellar album. What's our

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first song? Out of the Gate?

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Speaker 3: First song out of the Gate is a song called

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One Night Love Affair and You Come.

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Speaker 1: So when he gets done recording this album, he takes

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it to Bruce Allen, his manager, and he plays it

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for him. He's like, what do you think? And Bruce

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Allen listens to the whole thing and he goes, where's

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the rock? Yeah, Well, they went back to the drawing board,

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they hit a few songs, touched him up, wrote an

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entirely new song. But you listen to this first track

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out of the gate, and it is rock in your

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freakin' face, pounding drums and a simple two chord power chord.

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Donna Donna give me the arena rock right out of

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the gate.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 3: You know, he toured with Journey on their Frontiers tour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're.

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Speaker 3: Going to talk about a particular song here in just

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a second that was influenced by that tour. When he

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started playing for Journey, he was opening for them, and

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he's like, I gotta have bigger songs. I'm playing for

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all these people, and straight for the Heart's just not

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going to cut it. I mean, I've got to be

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like arena rock bangers. You know, this is something that

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young twenty somethings can really identify with. You meet somebody,

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you have a one night love affair, yes, yes, and

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you fall in love for twenty four hours and it's great.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This song, if you remember, has a prominent part in

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the movie Real Genius. It's at the part where Chris

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talks Mitch into skipping out on studying and they're going

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to have a party. And they have a party in

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like the school auditorium and they set up those water

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slides and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where they do the laser that like paints

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the signs on it. Oh yeah, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Valkimer goes up to the girls. He's like, don't eat that.

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This will cause you to have enormous breasts. Oh my god,

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I'm too late, crazy, think about it. Real genius came

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out the summer of eighty five and had the vision

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to have One Night Love Affair by Brian Adams and

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Everybody Wants to Rule the World by Tears for Fears.

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Speaker 1: Pretty stellar. Two runs stright there for sure. Okay, so

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obviously we've got Brian singing on this one, playing rhythm

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guitar for most of the songs on the album. The

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drummer is Brian's standard drummer, Mickey Curry. Okay, right, But

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on this first one, the guy's name playing the drums

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is Pat Stewart. Now there's a story that goes along

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with how he's discovered, and it relates to the summer

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of sixty nine. But I can tell you that before

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Pat Stewart recorded on reckless. He had never been in

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a recording studio in his life, and now he is

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a part of I would say at least one, and

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we'll go through one by one and figure out how

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many of these bangers he becomes immortalized by.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool, Okay, I love it, so I've got a

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great story. Keith Scott is Brian Adams guitarist, Yes, right,

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And when he and Jim Valance wrote the song the

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first time they played it for Keith. Guy's name is Keith.

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There's a line in the song that says, if the

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night was made for love, it ain't for keeps. But

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when they played it for Keith for the first time,

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they said, if the night were made for love, it

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ain't for Keith, which they thought was a cute, little

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funny thing to say. So they started doing it when

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they're on tour and looking at him like.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that's funny, because talk about a one night love affair.

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The reason that Brian Adams and Keith Scott got together

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for the first time was because Brian knew they're both

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playing clubs for different bands in the same area of Vancouver.

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But he sees Keith walking along the street at some

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point and he thinks to himself, Man, every band that

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Keith is in always draws the crowd, and what he

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really meant was draws the ladies. Because Keith is a

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really good looking guy, and so it was like, if

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I can just maybe hit this guy up. He says.

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All the bands were really competitive, but I just thought,

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I'm just going to see if this guy can be friendly.

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And he said, you want to go get a cup

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of coffe. They hung out for a while, talk for

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a while, and then just within a short amount of time,

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he becomes Brian Adams go to guitarists.

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Speaker 3: All right, d So this was the fifth single released

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September of nineteen eighty five. I gotta think that real

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genius may have given it a little bit of a

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rocket boost. Sure it hits number thirteen on the charts. Okay,

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all right, now, I just want to bring this up.

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I know I'm getting into my top ten a little

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bit early here, but this is a top thirteen that

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we've already discussed twice.

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Speaker 1: Now, Okay, okay, this is eighty five.

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Speaker 3: This is eighty five. This is November ninth of nineteen

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eighty five. This is when it peaks out. One night

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Love Affair hits number thirteen.

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Speaker 1: One year after the album is released. Basically, yes, this

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Speaker 3: Are, like almost exactly one year, right, Okay, so number

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twelve is never by Heart, So I mean that's a favor. Yeah,

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Broken Wings by Mister Mister, Yeah, lay your hands on

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me Thompson Twins that one, remember we talked about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Man.

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Speaker 3: Be Near Me by ABC Grade eighty, Grade.

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Speaker 1: Eighty, I remember that one on me?

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Speaker 3: Oh sure, Separate Lives by Phil Collins. Yeah, Saving All

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My Love for You Whitney Houston her first top ten hit,

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We Built This City by Starship, You Belong to the

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City by Glenn Fry Head Over Heels by, Tears for Fears,

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part Time Lover by Stevie Wonder, and the Miami Vice

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theme at number one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we're swimming in this world right now.

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Speaker 3: We are. We hit it with Beverly Hills Cops soundtrack,

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Miami Vice soundtrack and Tears Are Fears.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, if you haven't heard those episodes, be sure

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and go check those out. Also, if you want to

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hear some of our coverage of one hit wonders that

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we maybe are not covering a full album on or

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novel songs. You can go over to our Patreon page.

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so we love the honor and respect we get from

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Speaker 3: Our Patreon stuff is great. You gotta check it out.

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If I do say so my darn self.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the family. The Patreon family is the top

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys. Okay. Number two songs on the album We Go,

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She's only happy when She's dancing.

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Speaker 1: You gotta love a song that's got some good handclapping

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Speaker 3: He doesn't stray very far from the formula. It's crunching guitars,

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it's driving drums, it's singable chorus, it's big arena rock.

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Speaker 6: It's great.

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Speaker 1: What I love about this song is number one. It

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kind of reminds me a little bit of a flash dance,

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like she's got her nine to five job, but then

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she goes out and really that's when she's happy. Beast

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Speaker 3: As kind of flash dancy and the other thing.

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Speaker 1: I hope I can blow your mind with this little bit, right.

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Speaker 1: So we talked about Brian Adams singing backup for Motley Crue.

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Do you know who's singing back up in this song? No?

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of our Stranger Things episodes. It's a really great episode.

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In fact, it makes me hot blooded. Lou Graham is

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singing backup vocals in this song.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting because we've got a song coming up that

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was based a little bit on Jukebox Hero a little bit. Yeah, okay,

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I'm gonna blow your mind with some history here.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So this whole album was written by Brian Adams

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and his songwriting partner Jim Vallance. Jim Vallance doesn't get

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enough credit.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean he is. How did you put He's

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like the Ernie topin to Bryan Adams. Yeah, he's the Eltins. Yes, yes, yes, whatever,

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however you make that analogy, Yes.

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Speaker 3: That's right. I mean he writes he helps Brian write

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these great songs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I heard Brian talk about how he's a good songwriter.

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When he and Jim Valence hit their stride, they become

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great songwriters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean they worked together, not only writing

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songs for Brian Adams, but they wrote songs together for

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other people too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I mean Jim Valence you're gonna see on the

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catalog of Bonnie Rait, Aerosmith, Carly Simon, Rod Stewart, Roger

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Daltretina Turner, Alice Cooper, Ozzy Osbourne, Europe, Kiss Scorpions, and

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Murray throw back to our nineteen seventy eight episode and

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Joe Cocker.

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Speaker 3: I mean, okay, hang on, I'm gonna blow your mind

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with something, Okay. Yeah, So part of that success you

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mentioned all those names that Jim Valance has helped write

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songs for. Yeah, that's the reason why he and Brian

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Adams broke up.

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Speaker 1: It is the reason for the split. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Brian's like, dude, You're spending all your time writing songs

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for all these other people, what about me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, obviously they did this whole album together, and

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then they do the next album together. But after that album,

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Brian was like, I just feel like with this relationship

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has run its course. Based on the fact that Jim

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Valance is going everywhere except to Brian's studio. He's like,

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I feel like this relationship has maybe run its course,

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and the album after this album doesn't perform as well.

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Speaker 3: Has one great song on that.

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Speaker 1: Album, and so he says, you know what, I would

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really love to record with Mutt Lang.

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Speaker 3: Mutt Langa.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, He's thinking, Mutt Lang is the busiest music producer

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in the world right now, right, It's gonna take a

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while before I can get a hold of him. But again,

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he calls Bruce Allen, his manager. He tells him, he's like,

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you know, I don't know if it's this album or

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what we need to do, but I would love to

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eventually try to get ahold of Mut Lang. And Bruce's like,

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why don't you just call him. He's like, you mean,

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just just right now and just call him. He's like, yeah,

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call him right now, picks up the phone, calls him,

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what says, I'm ready, let's go, and within a few

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days Brian is flying from Canada over to the UK

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to start recording Waking Up the Neighbors.

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Speaker 3: That's fantastic, man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the only album that Brian Adams has that outsold

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this one.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of mind blowing in itself. But let's hold

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that thought because I want to dive into that just

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a little bit deeper.

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Speaker 1: Here in a minute.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I want to play just a couple of songs

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for you to see if you recognize these.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay? That song yes, Ragged all by Rasmith.

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Speaker 3: Jim Balance wrote that nice. Okay, here's one for.

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Speaker 4: You, that's heart.

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Speaker 3: That song is called what About Love?

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Speaker 1: There you go? What about love? All right?

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Speaker 3: Jim Valance wrote that song Okay, see if you know

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this one?

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the name of that song is something

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like love Me when I'm Gone? Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Songs called Don't Forget Me when I'm Gone?

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Speaker 1: Ah, that's it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, Glass Tiger another Canadian rock band. Oh yeah, okay,

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songs written by Jim Vallance. Now, I told you had

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a seventh grade girlfriend who moved away, right right, so

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we would still call each other. A Carian story, so

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we would call each other. She moved to Florida. What's

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her name, Victoria, Victoria. I haven't talked. It's nineteen eighty

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eighty seven. So, but she moved away. But we still

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call each other. And one of the things we talk

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about is songs we liked on the radio. I remember saying, Hey,

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I like this new song by George Michael and Brian

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Adams call Don't Forget Me when I'm Gone, and she's like, you, dummy,

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That songs by Glass Tiger, and so for thirty five

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years I've been like, yeah, dummy, you didn't even look

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that up. You didn't even know. You just guessed. Well

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I was half right. Okay, that's part of the song

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is not sung by George Michael. That's actually the singer

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of Glass Tiger.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: But the duet part of it, the guy with a

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raspy voice, Yeah, that is Brian Adams.

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Speaker 1: Well there you go, in your face, Vicky, how do

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you like me?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 3: That's right? I got one more for you to see

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if you know this one?

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Speaker 7: Okay, last one?

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Speaker 1: Did you just Dan huff me again?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I did, helmet.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, that's great. You had no idea, you just have.

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Speaker 1: Never heard that song before. But yes, I know Dan

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Huff's voice at this point in our relationship. Thanks to you, sir, Yes,

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thank you.

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Speaker 3: That song is called I'll Be There when It's Over

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by the group Giant, sung by our man Dan Huff.

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Jim Balance wrote that song guys.

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Speaker 1: By the way back to the Patreon episodes. If you

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want the I'll See You in My Dreams Patreon episode,

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we Jason does a love affair with Dan Huff on

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that one.

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Speaker 3: It's such a great song. Dan Huff, lead singer Giant,

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had that one magical moment where he sang the song

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I'll see you in my dreams. All Right, I don't

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want to brain dump on you here, but I'm gonna

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throw one more thing at you.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Jim Balance was in a rock band called Sunshine that

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morphed into a different band called Prism. Right, yeah, you

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may be more familiar with Prism.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: The leader and trumpet player of Prism was Bruce Fairbairn.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, big producer. I mean he's involved in

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all of those albums that we were talking about earlier

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with bon Jovi, and.

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Speaker 3: He produced Slippery One Way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He produced New Jersey Pump by Aersmith, Permanent Vacation the

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Razor's Edge by ACDC Get a Grip, which we've done

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track by track on Yeah, they were in the same

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band together.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic. All right. We done with this one, Okay

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now before we play track number three, Yes, I just

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want you to think about the song Don't Fear the

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Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult. Okay, you listen to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's play it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's listen to it. Okay, that's enough of that.

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I want to distract you with that, but just keep

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that in mind. But also I just want you to

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just listen on this opening guitar rift for the perfect

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use of feedback as it screams out in the opening guitar.

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Speaker 8: Riffs, if you ever found out about.

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Speaker 1: You, I am spiking the freaking football. This is the

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best song on the album, best song on all of

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Brian adams discography. This is a killer, iconic song.

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Speaker 3: I agree. This is a banger of bangers from this album.

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This song, of course, is run to You. This was

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the lead single released October eighteenth, nineteen eighty four. It

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only reached number six.

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Speaker 1: I want you to tell me before I start telling

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the story. When I'm done, you better be ready with

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your top ten or whatever it is that we've got

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for this one. But before we do that, I said,

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think about Blue Oyster Cult. Right, yeah, okay, So did

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he steal this riff from Blue Oyster Cult. No, he didn't,

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it's not the same riff. But what he did do

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was write this song for Blue Oyster Cult and they

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said no.

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Speaker 5: They said no, thank goodness, right, thank goodness, And I

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think thirty eight Special turned it down as well.

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Speaker 3: They did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, They had gotten a call I think it

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was from Bruce Fairburn actually had gotten a call said hey,

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Blue Oyster Cult is looking for some music. Do you

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guys have anything? He and Jim wrote this song together

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and basically they made a bad demo of it. They

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didn't deliberately make a bad demo it, but he sent

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it to him and they said, nah, we're good. You know,

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we're done. So this is the last song that got

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added to this album. They had a truckload of stuff.

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But then the producer on this, Bob clear Mountain, same

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guy who produced Cuts Like a Knife and his other

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albums before this, right, says we need another song. Do

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you have anything like leftover? And Brian's like, well, I

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mean I got this song that I wrote for the

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Blue Oyster Cult, but it just you know, they turned

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it down.

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Speaker 3: I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know if it's something for us. He's like, well, heck,

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let's just give it a try. And so he, you know,

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sits down with the band. They go over the music

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and they just sit down and they just play it.

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He gets done with his part, he looks in the

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sound booth and Bob clear Mountain and the guy who's

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running the tapes are both standing up. He's like, what's wrong,

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and they're like, come in here. He's like, oh no,

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and he walks in the sound booth and they push

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play for him and he's like, wow, this sounded a

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lot better than I remember it. Wow, just something happened.

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They captured that lightning in a bottle. That spark happened,

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and they just from a bad demo of a mediocre

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song made something that is or shattering.

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Speaker 3: Now, didn't you tell me that thirty eight special? Later

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listened to it and like, well, that song's better than

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we thought it was. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody thought that. Yeah, that's yeah, everybody thought that.

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Speaker 3: So this is a cheating classic.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I would.

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Speaker 3: Call this the sequel to One Night Love Affair.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's great. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, but this, I mean,

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it's a better sequel. You know, this is the Empire

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strikes back if you're right, because I mean, just the

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you can feel the lust and the passion and the

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the taboo of the relationship it is. It's intense ration.

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Oh my gosh. Yeah. I mean, he's got a girl.

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She's decent, she's just cold.

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Speaker 3: Right, but it's so damn easy making love to this

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other girl.

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Speaker 1: Won't hurt her if she doesn't know.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Okay, listen to this top five that that outranked Run

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to You.

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Speaker 1: This better be freaking fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, four, A, five, four or five are pretty

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pretty freaking good. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Number five Easy Lover by Philip Bailey and Phil.

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Speaker 1: Collins not better than this song.

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Speaker 3: Okay, still a really classic, solid song. Maybe Number four

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I Want to Know What Love Is by Foreigner Ouche.

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Speaker 1: Wow Oka sings back up and then and then keeps

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him out of the out of the higher ranking. Okay,

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keep going.

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Speaker 3: I still think Run to You is better than both

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of those songs.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Number three You're the Inspiration by Chicago a makeout classic.

474
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Speaker 1: For me, it is a makeout class and it is

475
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,559
really really good. I still don't think it's better than this.

476
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 3: Okay, all right? Number two All I Need by Jack Wagner,

477
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,960
Oh my gosh, the song that inspired Nicky six to

478
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,400
write the Motley Cruz song You're All I Need?

479
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: Oh gosh?

480
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,079
Speaker 3: Remember?

481
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yeah, he wanted to go break his legs,

482
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,000
that's right, and then he accidentally broke his legs on

483
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,920
his own and then the girlfriend was like, what did

484
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,279
you do?

485
00:24:31,839 --> 00:24:33,799
Speaker 3: You don't know that story. Go listen to the Motley

486
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:35,720
Crue Girls Girls Girls track by track we.

487
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: Did Jack Wagner soap opera extraordinaire.

488
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,279
Speaker 3: That's right, and apparently fuller around her with Nicky Six's girl. Yeah,

489
00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:45,119
and number one like a version of my Madonna.

490
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: Well, that's it. That's a little hard.

491
00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: I was a cultural shift. Absolutely, Run to You is

492
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,519
better than all these songs, although they're pretty pretty salty.

493
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic song.

494
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,519
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, then let's talk about the video for a second. Okay,

495
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,359
So I found it in interesting. Steve barn is a

496
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,079
guy that we talked about. He did Billy Jean, he

497
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,240
did a million other videos. Yeah, he called this video

498
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:08,319
one of his worst, maybe his worst.

499
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: I agree with him, Okay, I mean, you've you've got

500
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,640
this relationship and passion and taboo stuff that's all in

501
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,200
play here and there's no girl, right it is.

502
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,799
Speaker 3: Well, she's there, but there's no no The I.

503
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: Run to you is I'm running to my guitar. Really,

504
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,920
you're making love to her guitar? I don't think so, sir.

505
00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:33,319
I mean, there was such an opportunity that was missed

506
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,119
with this video. I agree with the director bailed attempt.

507
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,519
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. So they spent all the budget

508
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:43,079
of the video on this fake tree that they wanted

509
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,880
to get stressed snow reel. I don't know if the

510
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,599
snows I'm not, but the fake tree got struck by lightning.

511
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,400
They said it burned up in less than a minute,

512
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:56,680
and they were looking at the tree like, well, there

513
00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:58,799
goes the budget for the video. I hope that that

514
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:02,720
turns out. Well, yeah, it turns out. Even though Steve

515
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,279
Barron didn't like it, Brian Adams thought the video was terrible.

516
00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:10,039
This video was nominated by MTV in five categories, five

517
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,519
including Best Special Effects and Best Direction.

518
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: Did it win?

519
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,079
Speaker 5: No?

520
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: Just nominating? Yeah, Brian Adams in the beginning. Mm hmm,

521
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:22,160
this is his quote. I didn't really think that music

522
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:25,960
videos mattered. I didn't care I should have.

523
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean Steve Baron we've talked about before, because,

524
00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,960
like you said, he directed Billy Jean. He also directed

525
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,799
Take on Me by Aha, which we've covered in our

526
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:41,880
Patreon episodes. There's too many names to mention on videos

527
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,400
that he's made. He's just one of those guys. But

528
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,160
one of the biggest is Money for Nothing by Dire Straits.

529
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,200
I mean that's an icon.

530
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,799
Speaker 3: Well sure, yeah, Okay, like we said, this was the

531
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,440
lead single in this video. You have the English actress

532
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,640
Lyzette Anthony.

533
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,519
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

534
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: Anthony is in five videos from Reckless.

535
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:05,559
Speaker 1: Okay.

536
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: Now, she had some success as a sitcom actress, ended

537
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,079
up homeless. What her quote was that she had some

538
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,920
really expensive husbands. Okay, so I think she's got back

539
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,759
on her feet since then.

540
00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:23,039
Speaker 1: But do you know what the movie she was a

541
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,680
part of that is an icon from the eighties? No,

542
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:31,440
what nineteen eighty three? My hint is that in Fall.

543
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:35,640
It's a fantasy movie that involves something like a throwing

544
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:38,599
star that appears in Ready player one.

545
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,519
Speaker 3: Was she and Kroll.

546
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: She was Princess Lisa in the nineteen eighty three epic Kroll.

547
00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: My Mind is blown right way to go?

548
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, Okay, and then she's homeless. What Yeah, expensive

549
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:57,319
husbands will do that to you.

550
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,519
Speaker 3: I guess good things she had those BEAUTI for Blue

551
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,319
Eyes to fall back on. Yeah, run to you. Epic

552
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,279
banger of bangers from this album that's packed full of bangers.

553
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, biggest hit out of the ones we've heard so

554
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:12,119
far in my opinion, biggest one on the whole album.

555
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,599
Speaker 3: And Blue Oyster Colt was too good for it special.

556
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Guess Sorry guys. Okay, that takes us to track number four,

557
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,039
Another amazing song. Aeah right, all right, here we go.

558
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:50,720
This is heaven, all right. Couples move to the center

559
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,480
of the floor. That's my line.

560
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree with you. This song feels like sweaty

561
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,599
school dances and higgies.

562
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, this song feels like Faithfully by Journey.

563
00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so tell me about that.

564
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: So Brian Adams opened like over one hundred shows I

565
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,160
think for Journey. He was on tour with them during

566
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,400
their Frontiers tour. And you know, guys, go check out

567
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,359
our episode on Frontiers. We compared it to Synchronicity, both

568
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,359
big hits from eighty three, right right, yeh, But I

569
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:27,599
mean they're on tour with them and they hear Faithfully.

570
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,680
I mean, you remember the story on Faithfully is like

571
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,079
Neil Showan was like, this is hippie you know, lovey

572
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,319
dovey natt. I don't And then they played it. You know,

573
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,440
this is Jonathan Kine and Steve Perry's like, baby.

574
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:45,079
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kate said he downloaded that song directly from God Almighty.

575
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so and then they play it and first night,

576
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,240
first playing the song, and the crowd goes nuts, and

577
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,799
Neil Show's like, Okay, I was wrong, yeah right. And

578
00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:00,240
but in part of that process, Jim Valance and and

579
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:14,200
Brian Adams are inspired to write this song called Heaven.

580
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:20,079
Speaker 3: How could you not be impacted watching people sway with

581
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,799
the lighters out in Steve Perry's jestic voice and moving

582
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:26,960
the crowd. Yeah, absolutely, So they needed a song like this,

583
00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:29,880
and Brian Adams said, yeah, let's do just like Faithfully.

584
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,640
Accept This song barely made the.

585
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,559
Speaker 1: Album, barely made it on Directless, barely made it on Direckless.

586
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,440
Well here we may blow your mind with this one listener.

587
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,839
This is the second album that this song appears on.

588
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:46,119
Speaker 3: I know, right. This was on the soundtrack for a

589
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,119
huge hit movie in nineteen eighty three. That movie is

590
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,119
called A Night in Heaven.

591
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Knight, and.

592
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: You didn't see that movie starring Christopher Adkins, the other

593
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,160
guy in the Blue Lagoon, whereas a male.

594
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: Stripper, did not go see that movie. I can't tell

595
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,640
you though it was directed by John g Advilson. Though

596
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,880
same guy did Rocky, same guy who did Karate Kid.

597
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,240
You remember we just talked about karate Kid and I

598
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:15,599
told you I was like, I looked at his IMDb

599
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:19,359
and basically, he's like a hit, a home run or strikeout,

600
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:22,119
and A Night in Heaven is a strikeout.

601
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:24,759
Speaker 3: Luckily he had Karate Kid to follow it up for that.

602
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Yep.

603
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: So Heaven was on the soundtrack to that movie. Yep,

604
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,119
that was a nineteen eighty three movie. This song hits

605
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,640
number one June twenty second, nineteen eighty five, almost a

606
00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:38,440
year and a half after that movie comes out. Yeah,

607
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:41,839
all right, I've got something special for you. Okay, I'm

608
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:43,799
gonna give you a top five. This is the week

609
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,839
that Heaven Hits Number one June twenty second, nineteen eighty five. Okay,

610
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,319
this top five, you have four number one hits and

611
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,039
one number two hit.

612
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,319
Speaker 1: Like four songs that are tied for number one.

613
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: No, no, no, four songs that eventually hold the number

614
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,920
one spot. Oh okay, this is an incredible top five.

615
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: Okay.

616
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: So number five is a View to a Kill by

617
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,279
Duran Duran.

618
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Huge, right? Yeah.

619
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:12,799
Speaker 3: Number four is Raspberry Beret by Prince Iconic song is

620
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:16,359
that one on cherry Men? That one's on around the

621
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:17,519
World Noon of a Day? Oh?

622
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:18,759
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha? Yeah, okay.

623
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,359
Speaker 3: Number three is Everybody Wants to Rule the World by

624
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:22,079
Tears for Fears.

625
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: Great song, just covered it. I know it hits number one.

626
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,799
Speaker 3: Right Sisudio by Phil Collins, huge massive song for eighty five.

627
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,279
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what that means, by the way, Sisudio

628
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,839
Susiu Studio. Yeah, I do you do? Yeah? Okay, Well

629
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,359
we'll talk about it when we do Phil Collins episode.

630
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, So what song of those did not hold

631
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,240
the number one spot on the Hot one hundred?

632
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,279
Speaker 1: Uh jeez, I don't know, uh, Sisudio, I don't know.

633
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:56,359
Speaker 3: Raspberry Beret tops out at number two. Really yep.

634
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay.

635
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: In fact, Heaven knocked Everybody wants to Rule the World

636
00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:05,319
out of the number one spot. Nice, there you go.

637
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,200
This video also stars the Croll princess lize In.

638
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: So I think, if I'm remembering right, this is the

639
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:17,119
video that's kind of the follow up to the Summer

640
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,359
of sixty nine video, because she in that video plays

641
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,720
the girl that he meets in the drive in movie. Right,

642
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,400
that's right. And then it's it's very you know, like

643
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,720
glory days, like it's this is what happened in the past.

644
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,119
But the video ends with her like looking at his

645
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,640
band playing in a barn and as they drive by,

646
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:40,359
and she's with her new boyfriend, and the new boyfriend's like,

647
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:42,359
what is this? Who is that? Who are you looking at?

648
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:44,319
And it's just dumb, It's ridiculous.

649
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: That's Summer sixty nine, right, Yeah.

650
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,319
Speaker 1: And so I think this video for Heaven starts off

651
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,960
like they're pulled over to the side of the road

652
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,279
and the boyfriend is getting a dui ticket.

653
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: That's it, he's having to walk.

654
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is like part two of that story.

655
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,079
And she's just over there, you know, rolling her eyes,

656
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:04,000
and finally she looks across the street and she sees

657
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,000
on the on the Marquee tonight Brian Adams, and so

658
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:11,079
she goes and sneaks into the concert to see her

659
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:12,000
old flame.

660
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: That's right, except there's two videos really okay, right, So

661
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:18,679
I watched them both in preparation for this. So the

662
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,880
one that I remembered was Brian Adams playing a concert

663
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:26,559
to a bunch of TVs. Okay, it's like he's in

664
00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:29,800
a dream and there's nobody there and so there's just televisions.

665
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,199
It's really weird. Okay, I remember it, and I remember

666
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,519
liking the video. But then I saw the other video

667
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,559
where it's actually when you're talking about where she sneaks in,

668
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,119
he's playing at a concert. Their eyes meet and all

669
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:41,880
this stuff, right, and.

670
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,599
Speaker 1: Well he goes chasing after her, like he sees her

671
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,800
in the crowd, and he as soon as the set

672
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,239
is over, like he run. He grabs his iconic black

673
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,239
leather jacket, throws it on, and the doors are.

674
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:53,119
Speaker 3: Locked, right, and it's like snowing really bad.

675
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:53,639
Speaker 6: Yeah.

676
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that video I thought was a lot better.

677
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,440
Big Song Summer of nineteen eighty five.

678
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: Okay, So we mentioned that this is inspired by Faithfully, Right, Yes, okay,

679
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,440
So there's another reason that this song sounds very much

680
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:11,119
like that song. So I mentioned that Pat Stewart was

681
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,360
a guy that they picked up, drummer that had never

682
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,039
been in a studio before, and he's on three of

683
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:18,119
the songs on this album. Right, And their standard guy

684
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,679
on this is Mickey Curry. But they're in the middle

685
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,639
of recording this song and he's like, guys, I gotta go,

686
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,079
and I'm like what what what? He's like, I'm sorry,

687
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:29,639
I got a date with Hall and Oates. So he

688
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,639
goes and goes to play with hallan Oates and they're like, well, crap,

689
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,320
who do we get to play the drums?

690
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,159
Speaker 3: Yeah?

691
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:35,639
Speaker 1: You know who?

692
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:37,599
Speaker 3: They get Steve Smith.

693
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: Steve Smith, the drummer for Journey.

694
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,639
Speaker 3: If you wanted to sound like Faithfully, who are you

695
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:43,119
gonna call?

696
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,559
Speaker 1: Call Steve Smith.

697
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 7: It sounds like a dream.

698
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: I told you. I sent you a Texas week I

699
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,400
said if def Leppard and Journey had a baby, it

700
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,400
would be Brian Adams.

701
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: That's that's fair. That's a fair assessment. I am loving

702
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,639
this album so far. Let's get on. This is the

703
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:29,119
lab song on side one. This song is called Somebody man,

704
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,119
you want to end side one with another tent pole

705
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:35,199
banger after playing the slow dance song, This is the

706
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,000
Way to Go.

707
00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: It's a great song, great song.

708
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,079
Speaker 1: And it says something that everybody believes. I need somebody.

709
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:45,800
Everybody needs somebody looking between the fire and the flame.

710
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:47,719
Just give me that perfect person.

711
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: I love the genesis of this song.

712
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,199
Speaker 1: Tell me.

713
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: Okay. So Jim Balance, we said, was the drummer for

714
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,800
Prism right and he would play drums.

715
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: He plays percussion on this, does he Yeah, this is

716
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,400
one of the few that he gets a personnel credit for.

717
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

718
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: Nice, Okay, still got Mickey Curry. But on drums, Jim

719
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,239
Balance is doing percussion, which I'm tempted to think means

720
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,000
the tambourine.

721
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: Hey, Jim grabbing tambourine real quick. But he said, you

722
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,599
know he would back in the early days when they

723
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:19,159
were playing clubs and he's hammering away and you get

724
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:21,719
a unique perspective from behind the drum kit. He said,

725
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,199
we saw the same people every night out there drinking

726
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:29,559
and dancing and just looking for somebody to go home with.

727
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,559
And he's like it was pathetic. Yeah, And he's like,

728
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:35,679
and the winners are losers. You see it every night.

729
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,599
How about that?

730
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: It's awesome.

731
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:51,559
Speaker 3: I like this. I saw a review by a guy

732
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:55,519
named Stuart Mason basically said, reckless rock Anthem is run

733
00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:58,480
to you, it's sensitive, power ballad as Heaven, and it's

734
00:37:58,519 --> 00:37:59,639
straight ahead pop song.

735
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,599
Speaker 1: Is somebody fantastic Ladies and gentlemen listeners, you got to

736
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:07,000
know that when we have an episode coming up. Jason

737
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:10,360
and I are perpetually texting each other little video clips

738
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,760
and little interview articles and stuff like that. And earlier

739
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,039
this week, Jason texted me and it was a snapshot

740
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:22,760
of the YouTube video and he says to me, he goes,

741
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,559
do you know which of the songs on this album

742
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,639
talks about Madonna? And I'm thinking to myself, they wrote

743
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:32,920
this in eighty three. I mean was she I mean

744
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,800
she was just barely you know, hitting the radar at

745
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,559
that point. They put her in a song and then

746
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:42,840
I look at the picture. I said, it's the Madonna dude,

747
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,840
not Madonna like? And then you remember what your response was, No,

748
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:51,159
this song popped out at what number eleven? Is that right?

749
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: Number eleven?

750
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,519
Speaker 1: Yeah? And do you know who two of the songs

751
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:59,039
were they kept? And I said, the mother of Jesus. Yes,

752
00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:02,239
that's right, that's right, it's great, that's right.

753
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:05,199
Speaker 3: I gotta run through this top eleven with you real quick,

754
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,480
so somebody pops out at number eleven, like we texted, Madonna,

755
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,280
the Madonna.

756
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: Not the Madonna Madonna, Okay.

757
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:16,559
Speaker 3: Not the Madonna. Madonna beats him out on two songs.

758
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,400
But my claim is that this may be one of

759
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,519
the biggest robberies that it did not get into the

760
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:24,840
top ten. This is a great song from nineteen eighty five.

761
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:28,880
I think it's better than all ten of these songs. Okay, yeah,

762
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,440
too late for Goodbyes by Julian Lennon, Rhythm of the

763
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:35,280
Night by El Dubarge which we like, but still come on, really,

764
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,719
I'm on Fire by Bruce Springsteen. It's a good song,

765
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,599
but no, this is night Shift by the Commodores.

766
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: Well, that one was really big, that was really, really

767
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,719
very popular back then. That's a good song, but I

768
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,559
still don't think it keeps this one out. I mean,

769
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:50,360
these are good songs.

770
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:52,559
Speaker 3: Can't fight This Feeling by ospeed.

771
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: Wagon that's huge. I mean, you Gotta You Gotta That

772
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,719
is a fair that is a fair. Beat on this one.

773
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 3: Yes, Love a Girl by Tina Marie go back to

774
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,360
our Top Gun soundtrack episode.

775
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it doesn't beat the song Crazy for You.

776
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: By Madonna, Sure, Material Girl by Madonna.

777
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:09,119
Speaker 1: Yes We Are the World Well yeah.

778
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: And One More Night by Phil Collins.

779
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Stupid Phil Collins.

780
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: These are all great songs, but better than this one.

781
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a hard thing. I don't think that it

782
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,920
falls that way nowadays.

783
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,559
Speaker 3: By the way, the line in the song goes, I

784
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:36,519
thought I saw the Madonna, Yeah, the material Girl.

785
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:38,159
Speaker 1: I think he would have just said I thought I

786
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:43,239
saw Madonna if he was actually talking about the virgin. Yes,

787
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:49,079
I mean like a virgin. Sorry, Okay, let me ask

788
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:53,360
you this. Did you ever like LimeWire or Napster or

789
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,119
anything like that?

790
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,079
Speaker 3: Yes? I did. I LimeWire the holy crap out of everything.

791
00:40:58,159 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: You're lucky you didn't get caught, I know.

792
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,159
Speaker 3: Oh, tell me the story on this.

793
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,039
Speaker 1: Okay. So this song was one of twenty four songs,

794
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,400
just twenty four. Like, think of all of the files

795
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,840
that you've dear listener, think about all of the songs

796
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,039
that you ripped off a CD and shared with your friends. Right, Yeah,

797
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:16,800
they file a lawsuit on twenty four songs. This is

798
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,159
the very first file sharing copyright infringement lawsuit brought by

799
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,639
a major record label. They try it to a jury.

800
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,440
Jamie Thomas, she is a single mother of four children.

801
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:30,159
She gets found liable in the two thousand and seven

802
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,800
trial for downloading these twenty four songs from Kazah, and

803
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,960
she gets ordered to pay two hundred and twenty two

804
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:40,679
thousand dollars in damages. That comes out to about nine

805
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:44,159
two hundred and fifty dollars a song. They retry the case.

806
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,840
I don't know who appealed and why they had to

807
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,400
retry the case, but the case gets retried two years later.

808
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,119
This time the jury finds still that she's liable, but

809
00:41:55,519 --> 00:42:01,159
this time awards one point nine two million dollars. That's

810
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,880
eighty thousand dollars per song in damages.

811
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 6: What.

812
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that Ms Thomas probably just declared bankruptcy

813
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,000
because I don't know how you're gonna get that much

814
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,199
money out of a single mother of four. But there

815
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:13,480
you go.

816
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:16,559
Speaker 3: That is ridiculous, crazy eighty thousand dollars a.

817
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: Song a song.

818
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, those were different times. Absolutely, Okay, hit stop on

819
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,280
your tape player, kick it out, flip it over for

820
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:30,639
side two, and we start off with Summer of sixty nine.

821
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 6: I kind of first resisting out the five and.

822
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 8: Played it's in the fingus play was a Summer of sixteen.

823
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: Of course, this is an amazing song. I love this.

824
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,679
Speaker 1: This is this song for me was Brian Adams in

825
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,559
the eighties, like this is I mean, I love all

826
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,480
of the songs on this one. But if you were asking,

827
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:02,039
you know, ten year old, the what Brian Adams song

828
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:04,440
first comes to your mind, It's gonna be somewhere sixty nine.

829
00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

830
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: So he had the demo for this one, gets the

831
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,880
band together, they record, put it all down, and Brian's

832
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,760
words were, I felt like we didn't improve upon the demo.

833
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:18,239
It's like, I know this is a good song, but

834
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,960
if you can't make something better than the demo was,

835
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,000
you didn't do it right. And so they do it again,

836
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:26,880
they re record it, do it all over again, and

837
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,159
again he's like, yeah, there's just there's something missing, like

838
00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:33,079
the drums are just not quite right. But at this point,

839
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:36,840
like session's over, guys have all gone home. He's in Vancouver,

840
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,119
it's nighttime and he's like, I guess I'm gonna go

841
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:41,880
just walk around and so he happens to walk into

842
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,920
this club where there is a ska band playing ska

843
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,119
band named Rubber Biscuit okay, and he's watching him play

844
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:53,079
and he's like, dang, this drummer is killing it. And

845
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,559
so in between sets he goes up to the drummer.

846
00:43:56,639 --> 00:43:59,920
He's like, hey, my name's Brian. Guy's like, my name's Pat.

847
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,360
He said, what are you doing tomorrow? And Guy's like,

848
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:04,679
I don't know why. He says, You're gonna come to

849
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:08,280
the studio. Maybe just sit in see how it goes. Yeah.

850
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Guy's like, okay, never been in a studio in his life.

851
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,639
Pat Stewart walks in. Whoa first song that he plays,

852
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,400
He's like, can will you just play this? I mean?

853
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,440
And they when they record, they record as the whole band, right,

854
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:25,119
so you hear that first whack yeah, and then there's

855
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,840
no drums for a while. But he said, Pat just

856
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:31,679
brought the energy. The band fed off the energy, and

857
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,960
that's how this song became what it is.

858
00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: Wow, Poor Mickey Curry. Can go make love to Hall

859
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:37,800
of Notes.

860
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:44,199
Speaker 1: Yes, go hang out with John Oates, buddy. Now, what's

861
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,039
crazy is? I mean? This is just a guy in

862
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:50,920
a ska band in the clubs of Vancouver, right, he's

863
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:51,559
just a kid.

864
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,079
Speaker 3: Wow.

865
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:55,119
Speaker 1: And of course this launches his career. He goes on

866
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:57,559
to play a bunch of different things. But the thing

867
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,639
that I thought was the most interesting is did you

868
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:01,719
ever want the Kids in the Hall on HBO?

869
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: I'm familiar with it.

870
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: Well, they would do things where they had band session

871
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,840
stuff and songs that they would do. He was the

872
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,119
drummer for all of the kids in the Hall stuff,

873
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:12,800
including like Brain Candy. Like there's a big band in

874
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,639
Brain Candy. And I was just like, ah, that's too cool.

875
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,679
And then I thought, crap, it's been a long time

876
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,719
since I've seen Brain Candy. I really need to go

877
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:20,360
watch that again.

878
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,679
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a great story. Okay, I've got one for

879
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,719
you on the origin of this story.

880
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,199
Speaker 1: Okakay.

881
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've read some stuff that this was kind

882
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:31,039
of inspired by Bob seekers Night Moves.

883
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

884
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: I saw that it was inspired by the movie The

885
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,480
Summer of forty two.

886
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, if you.

887
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,679
Speaker 3: Remember that kind of an older woman, kind of a spring,

888
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:40,599
you know, kind of a romance type of thing. Sure,

889
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,719
Jackson Brown's running on empty. Yeah, But basically it's a

890
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,480
song about your childhood memories, right and kind of as

891
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:48,440
you're growing into a man, you know.

892
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 6: Right.

893
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: So it started off with a conversation between Brian Adams

894
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,079
and Jim Valence and they were both talking about their

895
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:55,239
childhood school days.

896
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

897
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: They discussed the fact that John Lennon wrote the song

898
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,639
Abberry Fields Forever about his childhood school days. Yeah, and

899
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:07,519
Paul McCartney wrote the song Penny Lane about his school.

900
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,679
Speaker 1: Days streets they grew up on. Yeah, and they were like.

901
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 3: Man, those are both great songs. We need to do

902
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,880
this right, and this is the product of that conversation.

903
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,599
Speaker 1: Well, here's my concern. Okay. Well, we mentioned that Brian

904
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:46,280
Adams was born in November of fifty nine, Yes, which

905
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,280
means in the summer of sixty nine he was nine

906
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:49,920
years old.

907
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 3: That's right.

908
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,079
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, he might have been an early player,

909
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:56,280
but I really find it hard to believe that he

910
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,519
was having a moment on the front porch laston Forever

911
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:01,119
at Okay.

912
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: So he did. I did see him in concert, okay.

913
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:06,800
I saw him open for def Leppard. Yeah, and he said, guys,

914
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,000
this song is not about the summer of nineteen sixty nine.

915
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:14,199
And everybody's like, ooh, He's like, yep, so this is

916
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:20,159
about sexual innuendo. It's about your first encounter, real encounter

917
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:21,079
with the opposite sex.

918
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I think he's playing that up a

919
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,239
little bit now. Sure. The co writer Jim Balance, he

920
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,199
was born in fifty two.

921
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,119
Speaker 3: He was seventeen.

922
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that makes a little bit more sense for

923
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:33,960
some of the lyrics that we're getting. But to be

924
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:37,679
honest in researching, you know when Brian Adams how old

925
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,360
he was when he bought his first guitar from a

926
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,719
five and dime No. Ten summer of seventy just doesn't

927
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,599
rhyme as well.

928
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,519
Speaker 3: You know when you talk about songs about your first

929
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:51,960
sexual encounter. I've got a quote for you from the

930
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,719
wonderful Barbara Bush about a certain other sticky situation in

931
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,360
the nineties. She said, a man may forget where he

932
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,960
perks or where he lives, but he never forgets oral sex.

933
00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Wow, all right, let's keep it PG. Thirteen. Buddy,

934
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,400
there you go.

935
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,559
Speaker 3: Okay, So in the song you have the lyrics Jimmy

936
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:16,400
quit and Jody got married. Jim Valence wanted to change

937
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,800
that too, would he quit and Gordy got married? Because

938
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,880
that actually happened when he was in Prism and playing well.

939
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,840
They kept it as Jimmy because he was an early

940
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,519
drummer for Brian Adams, and then Jody was a sound

941
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,079
manager that did get married during.

942
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: The recording of Reckless Nice.

943
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,079
Speaker 3: By the way, this song pops out at number five

944
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,800
June seventeenth, nineteen eighty five. Quickly number four We Don't

945
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,239
Need Another Hero by Tina Turner, who we're going to

946
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:47,960
talk about here in.

947
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: Just a minute, Yeah, in just a second.

948
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:53,199
Speaker 3: Number three, Freeway of Love by Aretha Franklin to Saint

949
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:55,719
Emil's Fire and one Power of Love. You mentioned it

950
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,119
the theme song two Back.

951
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: To the Future. Man, I love the Summer of eighty five?

952
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,639
So what did to write a song about that?

953
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 3: Right?

954
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:02,679
Speaker 5: Right?

955
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,199
Speaker 3: This is so good?

956
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: Love it?

957
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: Anything else on this one? When did you get your

958
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,440
first guitar?

959
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: D Yeah? So, I mean there were guitars in my house.

960
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,440
My dad played, and so there were things just around.

961
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,239
But I was thirteen when I ended up picking it up.

962
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:22,239
It was and I'm not kidding, the Summer of eighty nine.

963
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,679
Love it, Yeah, love it?

964
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: Okay, here you go. Some of the lyrics are derived

965
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,719
from Juwbox hero bought a beat up six string thunder

966
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,679
Road where Bruce Springsteen talks about his front porch and

967
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,039
I want to hold your hand When you hold my hand.

968
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:38,960
I knew it was now or Never. It's kind of

969
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,039
a collaboration of all these great songs.

970
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: It's fantastic, great conversation.

971
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,199
Speaker 3: By the way, just a little tidbit, this song was

972
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,360
originally called Best Days of My Life.

973
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: They went with the right title. I agree, yep, okay.

974
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:51,280
Brings us to our next song.

975
00:49:51,639 --> 00:50:20,679
Speaker 3: Next song on the album's called Kids Want to Rock.

976
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,079
Speaker 1: Welcome Kids for so that This is the song that

977
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:33,559
after Bruce Allen said where's the rock? This is the

978
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:34,119
one they wrote.

979
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:35,199
Speaker 3: They went back and wrote this song.

980
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:35,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

981
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 3: Do you know where the title this song comes from?

982
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,079
So they went back the name. They knew they wanted

983
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:41,920
to write a rock song. They wanted to edge it

984
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,559
up a little bit.

985
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

986
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: So Brian Adams and Jim Balance had gone to a Thomas.

987
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:50,679
Speaker 1: Dolby concert okay, like science yeah, okay, yeah.

988
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 3: And he was doing the keyboard thing and Jim Balance

989
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,360
turned to Brian Adams and is like, these kids are

990
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,800
not into this keyboard. These kids want to rock.

991
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: Kids won a raw and.

992
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:03,159
Speaker 3: That stuck in Brian AIM's head, and that's where they

993
00:51:03,199 --> 00:51:05,880
came with a title for this song. But you mentioned

994
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:08,679
they flew back. They added this one in late This

995
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,920
is the one of the last ones that they added

996
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,559
in August before the album was released. They re recorded

997
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:16,599
One Night Love Affair in summer of sixty nine to

998
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:20,559
make those rockier, and you get an album that Karg

999
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,960
Magazine praised. Krag Magazine is a metal magazine. Yeah, is

1000
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,119
one of the best rock albums.

1001
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,119
Speaker 1: Of eighty five. It's a banger. So early part of

1002
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:33,599
this song, right, this is the first lyrics, right says

1003
00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:37,400
turned on the radio sounded like a disco must have

1004
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:40,599
turned the dial for a couple of miles, but I

1005
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:44,599
couldn't find no rock and roll. Okay, Yeah, So Bryan

1006
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:47,039
Adams signed to A and M Records for a dollar

1007
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,559
in nineteen seventy eight. I did read that they took

1008
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:54,800
one of his demo songs called let Me Take You Dancing,

1009
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:58,559
and they remixed it to be a disco song without

1010
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:01,880
his permission, and and he heard that. He couldn't believe it.

1011
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,760
He was like, this sucks. I am not letting this

1012
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,440
happen again, which is why we get all of this

1013
00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:10,320
awesome rock and roll here. But I have to think

1014
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,760
that those first lyrics turned on the radio sounded like

1015
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,599
a disco must have turned the dial for a couple

1016
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:19,960
of miles. That had to be the inspiration forties lines.

1017
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 3: Did you say he signed for one dollar?

1018
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: Signed for a dollar? It's the only way that you're

1019
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,519
gonna make it as a rock and roll artist is

1020
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:28,800
you got to have a label, buddy.

1021
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: All I see is Eddie Murphy pulling one dollar bill

1022
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:36,519
out of his pocket. One dollar. Thank you, Billy Ray Crazy.

1023
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,199
I love the song, I mean, it's just it flows

1024
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:41,159
along with the rest of the album. If you put

1025
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,519
Joe Elliott singing, this song sounds pretty deaf Leppard.

1026
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah for sure.

1027
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: Okay, next song on the album sixth single, this song

1028
00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:50,920
is called It's Only Love.

1029
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:09,159
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. When I told Kevin Davis that we

1030
00:53:09,159 --> 00:53:11,800
were going to cover this album, this song immediately came

1031
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,880
up as his favorite.

1032
00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 3: It's great man, such a banger.

1033
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: And the voices of Tina Turner and Brian Adams belong together.

1034
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1035
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. When he was a kid, like

1036
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:26,440
when he was a teenager, he would go see her

1037
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:30,719
live because this is you know, seventies. She's not hit

1038
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,840
it big again like it was, you know, it was

1039
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,960
Ike and Tina and then crickets for a while. And

1040
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,760
so she's playing the club scenes and he gets to

1041
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,159
go see her play in the clubs. Then of course

1042
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,159
he makes it as a musical artist and he had

1043
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,679
loved seeing her before, and so he has this inspiration

1044
00:53:48,760 --> 00:54:01,599
to have her sing a duet.

1045
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he and Jim Valance write this song. They

1046
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,440
send her the demo and she's like, I love it.

1047
00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:10,880
I want to meet you. And she was coming in town.

1048
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,320
She had a concert in Vancouver. She reaches out to

1049
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,800
Brian says let's meet and so he shows up. She's like,

1050
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,360
I love the song. I want to record it with you.

1051
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:21,960
He's like great, okay, you know, I mean, what sounds good.

1052
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:26,800
She's like, how about tomorrow? Like okay, okay, you know, sure,

1053
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,159
Tina Turner's gonna come in. So you know, everybody get ready,

1054
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,280
Tina Turner's coming in. He said. She blew in like

1055
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:38,480
a whirlwind. They pressed record, she slays it with her vocals,

1056
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:42,559
blows out and then he's like they were all like okay,

1057
00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:44,719
whoa that was incredible and He's like, guys, I hope

1058
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:56,199
you got that on tape because that was amazing in

1059
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,119
and out and this is what you get.

1060
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, his first two albums didn't have a lot going on,

1061
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,559
that's right. Then we get Cuts like a Knife, which

1062
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:05,400
is definitely like that opens up lots of doorswa.

1063
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,039
Speaker 3: But this is the album that's huge for him, right,

1064
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,320
twelve million copies.

1065
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: Now, we talked about how his dad was a member

1066
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,840
of the British Army, member of the Canadian Army, became

1067
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,440
one of the UN peacekeepers. When he was a kid.

1068
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:22,559
He didn't just live in Canada exclusively. They traveled all

1069
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:25,800
over the place. He lived in various places in Europe.

1070
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,039
But the problem was is that he when this album

1071
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:30,440
came out, when Reckless came out, it wasn't a big

1072
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:35,679
hit in Europe until he started touring with Tina on

1073
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,280
her Private Dancer tour.

1074
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:38,039
Speaker 3: Wow.

1075
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,159
Speaker 1: And so when she would get to this song in

1076
00:55:41,199 --> 00:55:44,639
her set, because this is part of her set now too, right,

1077
00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:47,239
she would bring him back out, you know, and she'd

1078
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,960
talk him up. And that was when Europe fell in

1079
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:51,960
love with Brian Apps.

1080
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 3: So this music video is great, right, she has this

1081
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,760
big intro. It's her Private Dancer tour. The crowd is

1082
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,800
totally at her feet, and she's like, I've got this

1083
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,760
guy who sings a song with me, and he's really

1084
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,159
cute and he's really great. Let's bring it back Brian Adams,

1085
00:56:06,199 --> 00:56:08,880
you know. Yeah, And he comes out, but she is

1086
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,760
the queen. She's like in charge of the stage and

1087
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,920
is just belting it out and he's having just a

1088
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,440
great time with her. I love this video. It's so fun.

1089
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:23,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. I never really appreciated how not tall he was

1090
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,280
until I saw him standing next to you.

1091
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,119
Speaker 3: To her, she says, where of those big heels?

1092
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,559
Speaker 1: She where's the big heels? But she's like, she's a

1093
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:33,519
four footer of bet, you know, And he's not. He's

1094
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:35,519
about eye to eye with her. I think him and

1095
00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:38,880
Michael J. Fox probably all can hang out play basketball together.

1096
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 3: Yep. This was the sixth and final single from the album.

1097
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:47,320
This reached number fifteen January of nineteen eighty six.

1098
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: Absolute banger. I love this song, Love it you too.

1099
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,760
So I've mentioned the drummer several times. We've talked about

1100
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,320
Keith Scott, the other guys that are standard in the band.

1101
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,239
You've got Dave Taylor playing Bay he's playing bass on

1102
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,159
this one. And you've got Tammy Mandel on keyboards.

1103
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 3: Okay.

1104
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: He also just found this out, played keyboards on Money

1105
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,800
for Nothing. Oh well, which I mean talk about an

1106
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,800
iconic keyboard part. That's I just thought, oh that's cool.

1107
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,480
So anyway, there you go. Brian's standard band Keith Scott,

1108
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,400
Mickey Curry, Dave Taylor, and Tommy Mandel.

1109
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:39,119
Speaker 3: Next song on the album is a song called Long Gone.

1110
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:45,239
It's a song about divorce. Divorce. Yeah, this has got

1111
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,320
to be the sequel to Run to You then.

1112
00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:50,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, telephone's been ringing, ringing off the wall. It's your

1113
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:55,079
Las Vegas lawyer, another long distance call. He says, you

1114
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:57,719
get the house and the car, and I get the

1115
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,920
clothes I got on. Now she's gone long, long, long long.

1116
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: I got a one night love affair, followed to him

1117
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,760
running back to her, followed by lungne.

1118
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Now. I don't know what the inspiration for this was,

1119
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,440
but I can tell you Brian Adams has never been married. Okay,

1120
00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:18,280
has a couple of daughters. He's got a young, cute girlfriend.

1121
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,159
They've been going out for a while and I think

1122
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:23,760
one of the daughters was born in twenty eleven. One

1123
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,360
was born in twenty thirteen. So this guy who's a

1124
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,239
late bloomer, yeah, sixteen years older than me, has kids

1125
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,039
that are all younger than my kids.

1126
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,679
Speaker 3: Wow. That's great, man, I love it.

1127
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: So we didn't really talk about Brian's like beginnings. I

1128
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,039
said he bought his first guitar when he was ten,

1129
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,960
but he really was talk about a prodigy. He was

1130
00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:48,800
a really early bloomer as far as music goes, late

1131
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,320
bloomer on one respect, but early bloomer in the other.

1132
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,480
He started playing as just kind of a session musician,

1133
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:59,960
singing as a session musician, and the group Sweeny Top

1134
00:59:00,599 --> 00:59:02,719
you heard of them, I have. They picked him up

1135
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,679
after their singer Nick Glider left. Okay, you remember the

1136
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,000
name Nick Glider. No, we're looking at nineteen seventy eight

1137
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,360
hot child in the city.

1138
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, whoa.

1139
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,119
Speaker 1: So he left Sweeney Todd. They had some guy come

1140
00:59:18,119 --> 00:59:20,159
in named Clark. I remember he was there for half

1141
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:23,599
a minute, and then they brought Brian Adams lead singer.

1142
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,320
At sixteen years old. They put out an album called

1143
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,880
If Wishes Were Horses, but unfortunately it doesn't really do anything.

1144
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,639
But he's billed as Brian Guy Adams on vocals.

1145
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:35,679
Speaker 3: Oh hearing that one.

1146
00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they recorded Sweeney Todd had had a minor

1147
00:59:40,519 --> 00:59:43,119
hit with a song called Roxy Roller, which Nick Glider

1148
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:45,679
had performed, and they re recorded that with Brian. But

1149
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,320
I can't find a copy of it anywhere. But if

1150
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,400
Wishes were Horses didn't do much and it's still at sixteen.

1151
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,119
He leaves the band to go on to do bigger

1152
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:56,679
and better things.

1153
00:59:57,079 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: And we talked about I mean he met Jim Vallance.

1154
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,519
Tell me story about how he meant Jim Villain.

1155
01:00:01,559 --> 01:00:03,679
Speaker 1: Well, it's very similar to the Keith Scott story. I mean,

1156
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:08,559
Jim Valence was another guy in Vancouver in competing bands

1157
01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:12,119
with Brian, but he just knew he had some songwriting chops.

1158
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:15,239
And so he's got a friend that he sees in

1159
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,840
a music store, guitar you know, like a guitar store,

1160
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,719
and he sees Jim and he knows their friends, and

1161
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:21,960
he's like, hey, introduce me to that guy. And he

1162
01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:23,679
goes just talks to him for a little while in

1163
01:00:23,719 --> 01:00:25,840
the guitar store. But he said as he walked out,

1164
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,519
I mean as a teenager, he's eighteen years old, walks

1165
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:30,920
out of that store and He's like, I feel like

1166
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,639
I've just experienced the beginning of something amazing.

1167
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 3: And he was right. He was right, fantastic. I like

1168
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,360
this song too. I I shake my booty.

1169
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah. So talking about Jim Valance, you know,

1170
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:47,199
Ryan had started as a songwriter. He had been playing

1171
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these session gigs and he's living with his brother and

1172
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he can't figure out. You know, he's just if I

1173
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,880
can just make rent, like that's going to be to him.

1174
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Success is if I can just afford to play music

1175
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and make rent, I'm gonna be good. I made it, Yeah,

1176
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But playing the gigs was not doing it for him.

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So he started writing songs and he's I mean he

1178
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,440
was writing songs for TV commercials and sitcoms and other

1179
01:01:11,559 --> 01:01:13,960
bands and all this stuff. And he says, I can

1180
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,320
still remember the day that I had a check come

1181
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,599
in and he said it was five hundred dollars and

1182
01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:21,800
I thought they had made a mistake. I thought they

1183
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,800
put this zero in the wrong place. And he says,

1184
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I can't even tell you what where that came from. Like,

1185
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I was doing so many things at that moment, but

1186
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at that point I really realized. I was like, oh

1187
01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:37,559
my gosh, I can make it as a songwriter. I

1188
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:39,440
don't have to be a musician. I can make it

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as a songwriter. And so that's how we get all

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of these great songs.

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Speaker 3: Love it, love it Okay. Last song on the album

1192
01:01:46,559 --> 01:02:03,360
is a song called Ain't Gonna Cry.

1193
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,159
Speaker 1: Okay. It's a stellar song. It's not the best song

1194
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:09,039
on the album. It's not a tent pole.

1195
01:02:09,079 --> 01:02:11,239
Speaker 3: Right for sure. But there's not a skipper on this

1196
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,599
whole album. No, no, no, no skippers, no skippers. I agree

1197
01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:18,039
with you. It's probably maybe the lowest drinking song on

1198
01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:19,639
the album, but still not bad.

1199
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,159
Speaker 1: No, it's great. I would think that you would probably

1200
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,280
end the show with this song, anticipating an encore, and

1201
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,320
then come back out with Run to You or Summer

1202
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,679
sixty nine or something like that, or Cuts like a

1203
01:02:32,719 --> 01:02:34,599
Knife if you're on the Reckless Tooter, you know.

1204
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 3: Sure, I want to talk before we end this. I

1205
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,320
want to talk briefly about the summer of ninety one

1206
01:02:40,599 --> 01:02:44,119
when Brian Adams ruled the airwaves, when a song called

1207
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:56,679
Everything I Do. This song came off of the Robin

1208
01:02:56,719 --> 01:03:00,880
Hood soundtrack Huh was played at every single wedding, every

1209
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,280
single graduation, every slow dance, every slow dance. This song

1210
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,960
was written by Michael Kaman, the guy who did the

1211
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:12,280
music for Diehard, and and a million others, others Mutt

1212
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,320
Lang and Brian Adams. Is that an all star of

1213
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:16,840
songwriters right there?

1214
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,199
Speaker 1: Fricking awesome. It's no wonder that it ruled the airwaves.

1215
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 3: Kate Bush, Annie Lennox and Lisa Stansfield turned down that

1216
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,000
song because it was meant to be sung by Maid,

1217
01:03:26,119 --> 01:03:28,400
Marian two, Robin Hood and so Brian said, well, I

1218
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,159
guess I'll sing it then, and it became a Hue

1219
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:35,320
LONGUS international hit. Yeah, it was number one for seven

1220
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,320
weeks in the US and for a record sixteen weeks

1221
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,159
number one in the UK.

1222
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 6: No, it's true everything du it for?

1223
01:03:53,519 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean Mary Elizabeth Master Antonio turned it down to Yeah, yeah,

1224
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,079
that's that's great. We will have to cover that one

1225
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,239
next couple of years.

1226
01:04:03,639 --> 01:04:06,119
Speaker 3: Reckless is a banger of bangers.

1227
01:04:06,519 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: It is so good from beginning to end. There are

1228
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:14,079
no skippers. I fear for Heartbeat City because that's what

1229
01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:17,639
we're comparing it to now. That being said, speaking of

1230
01:04:17,679 --> 01:04:20,960
Mutt Lang, Mutt Lang had his hands all over Heartbeat

1231
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,440
City at the point that Mutt Lang was probably as

1232
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:28,199
at his apex as a producer, so Heartbeat City may

1233
01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:29,000
have the gums.

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01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,639
Speaker 3: Let's check it out. Yeah, next week, come back in

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01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:37,199
the cars, Heartbeat City

