1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio and Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to thepeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,679 your support. It is Tuesday, and it's twelve o'clock noon, 10 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:33,560 and that means we talk to Andrew Dunn. He is 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,119 the publisher of the long Leaf Politics website and newsletterlongleafpol 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,479 dot com, and you can also read his op eds 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,439 that appear at the Charlotte Observer and the Raleigh News 14 00:00:44,439 --> 00:00:47,159 and Observer. Andrew, Welcome to the show. How are you, sir? 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,399 Speaker 2: Oh? I'm doing well. Thanks for having me back. 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:56,159 Speaker 1: Absolutely well. I read your predictions and so, okay, first, 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,600 I don't make predictions on elections or trials. I am 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,079 not good at it, and so I just gave it 19 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:06,719 up altogether, and frankly I feel a lot happier for it. 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,159 But you do like to make the predictions you say 21 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:12,719 that in one of these pieces that you enjoy. I 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,280 think it was in your newsletter to your subscribers you 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,840 were like, I love talking about predictions, so give me yours. 24 00:01:18,879 --> 00:01:22,200 So why do you have this, Some might say unhealthy 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,840 obsession with predictions? 26 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,879 Speaker 2: Let me ask, Well, you got to give the people 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,439 what they want, right. 28 00:01:30,359 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's start with the first one. And 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,799 this is from the Charlotte Observer, and News and Observer 30 00:01:36,879 --> 00:01:40,200 op ed that you wrote the two races you are 31 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:44,760 watching as a North Carolina Conservative, and you write that 32 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:48,159 twenty thousand voters will decide the balance of political power 33 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:53,000 across the state. So this is about the Phil Berger 34 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:56,959 Sam Page race. So give us the give us the 35 00:01:56,959 --> 00:01:59,239 top line on that. What is you know, who are 36 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:01,879 these people and why is this so important for the 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,359 balance of political power across North Carolina? 38 00:02:05,519 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean we could talk about this for 39 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:11,319 hours and hours, but I'll try to give the brief recap. 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,039 So Senate President pro Tem Phil Berger hails from Rockingham County. 41 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:20,639 He's been in the General Assembly for twenty some years now. 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,240 He's been the most powerful politician in the state for 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,080 most of that time, especially since Republicans took over the 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,520 General Assembly in the twenty ten election, and he's been 45 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:37,080 mostly unchallenged in that but this year, Rockingham County Sheriff 46 00:02:37,159 --> 00:02:39,960 Sam Page has decided that he is going to challenge 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,319 Philberger for that seat, claiming that Senator Berger has lost 48 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,680 touch with the people of his district. Now. Sheriff Sam Page, 49 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:51,919 for a lot of your listeners who are in urban 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,719 areas might not understand just how important and powerful sheriffs are. 51 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,560 And in Rockingham County, Sampage has a very, very large following, 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,879 is very well liked. He's also been brought in and 53 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,800 helps the Trump administration over the past decade. And so 54 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:11,680 there's a lot of polls out there showing Sam Paige 55 00:03:11,759 --> 00:03:15,520 with a considerable lead. Here now where he is not 56 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,560 in the lead is in the fundraising battle. Senator Berger 57 00:03:18,759 --> 00:03:22,479 has already spent upwards of two million dollars on attack 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,919 ads against Sheriff Page, and with undoubtedly more to come. 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,439 But this race is going to be on the ballot 60 00:03:30,479 --> 00:03:33,479 in March. I mean, it's a Republican primary, and so 61 00:03:33,759 --> 00:03:36,599 I think that that race is going to be the 62 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:41,199 most important election in North Carolina in twenty twenty six. 63 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,280 And it's really going to set the tone for how 64 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,879 politics works in North Carolina this year. 65 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:49,599 Speaker 1: Was I'm trying to remember, was Sam Page involved in 66 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:54,919 any of the COVID era pushback against lockdowns or anything 67 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,280 like that. And now remember he was vocal in his 68 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:03,680 opposition to the to the casino push that Berger undertook. 69 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,879 Speaker 2: He may have been, I don't. I think that was 70 00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:09,439 more of an Alemance County thing. 71 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:13,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know about the racetrack out in Alemance. So 72 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,879 I just wasn't sure if Page won any supporters during 73 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,199 the COVID lockdowns, if any of that kind of halo 74 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,959 effects still it's still he may still enjoy. 75 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,199 Speaker 2: He may have, but I think it mostly stems from 76 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:30,040 the casino opposition. I think Senator Berger really made a 77 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,720 pretty big miscalculation. This was maybe two years ago, three 78 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,000 years ago now, where he wanted to put into the 79 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:40,240 state budget the ability to open a casino, a couple 80 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,040 of casinos around the state, including in his backyard, and 81 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:45,680 there just wasn't a whole lot of transparency around that. 82 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,720 It was kind of pushed through and Sheriff Sam Page 83 00:04:48,759 --> 00:04:51,839 really became the leader of the opposition to that, and 84 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,560 it did and the opposition was successful though the casinos 85 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,040 did not make it into the budget. 86 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, so Page goes in. You mentioned severely 87 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:06,279 under performing on fundraising, which is to be expected. You're 88 00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:09,000 running against the Senate President pro tim He's got a 89 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,800 lot of power, He's got a lot of donations. I 90 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,480 think he even picked up Did he not get an 91 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,639 endorsement from Donald Trump recently too? 92 00:05:17,079 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: He sure did. And there's a little bit of controversy 93 00:05:19,399 --> 00:05:22,519 around that. Kind of the rumor is that the whole 94 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,839 mid decade redistricting that North Carolina just did was how 95 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:30,480 Berger was able to get that endorsement from President Trump. 96 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:33,439 Now that's not been confirmed. I mean, it wouldn't shock 97 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,680 me if it were true. But regardless, the President Trump 98 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,839 did go on his truth social and say he likes 99 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,759 both guys, but offered Sheriff Page a job quote unquote 100 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,399 job in the administration if he would end his challenge 101 00:05:49,399 --> 00:05:52,720 to Senator Burger. But that does not appear to be happening. 102 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So what happens if Berger loses, I. 103 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,519 Speaker 2: Mean, if Senator Burger loses, I mean that it becomes 104 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,759 a huge power vacuum. I mean, he immediately becomes the 105 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,639 lame duck and honestly, I could see it going in 106 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,360 a couple of different directions, and I did not weigh 107 00:06:10,439 --> 00:06:12,680 in a prediction on what exactly would happen. I mean, 108 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,160 I could see a world in which, you know, Senator 109 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,639 Berger resigns immediately and goes home, and then the House 110 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,639 becomes a sendant. You know, the power in the General 111 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:25,240 Assembly lies with the House, and I could see Governor 112 00:06:25,319 --> 00:06:28,519 Josh Stein coming in there and filling that vacuum and 113 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,120 becoming more powerful. Or I could see Senator Berger staying 114 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,519 in office and kind of coming up the works, and 115 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:37,560 then a whole lot of nothing gets done over twenty 116 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,160 twenty six. So I don't know which of those pasts 117 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,399 will take, but it really depends on what happens with the. 118 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,519 Speaker 1: Election, all right, and if he wins. If Berger wins, 119 00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:48,000 then what. 120 00:06:49,439 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: If he wins, I think that he consolidates his power. 121 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,839 I mean, he this is kind of the you come 122 00:06:55,879 --> 00:06:58,879 at the king, you better not miss type situation, and 123 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,199 I think that he's really going to have the upper 124 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,079 hand in negotiations with the House and be able to 125 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,519 put his stamp on North Carolina policy. 126 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,279 Speaker 1: All right, So let's shift gear now gears to the 127 00:07:10,399 --> 00:07:14,720 US Senate race. You mentioned Michelle Morrow entering the Republican primary. 128 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,240 I think your assessment of this is correct. I think 129 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:22,079 she will split the grassroots support Don Brown, the other 130 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,040 candidate that has a lot of grassroots support, which then 131 00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:28,920 may make it easier for Michael Wattley to make it 132 00:07:28,959 --> 00:07:32,600 through the primary. You say, Cooper starts with every advantage. 133 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:35,800 He doesn't need to do much except avoid mistakes, and 134 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:39,279 that's what he's good at, avoiding mistakes. All right, So 135 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,319 what happens then if Cooper is the guy and Wattley 136 00:07:44,519 --> 00:07:47,959 is the guy and the polls kind of stay where 137 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:50,839 they are, Yeah. 138 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: I mean, and I think that's the most likely scenario. 139 00:07:53,079 --> 00:07:56,519 I mean, I don't want to write off Michael Wattley completely. 140 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,120 I mean a lot can change between now in November. 141 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:03,639 Michael Whatley will be and is well funded. I think 142 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:06,839 he's a smart guy and he's an extremely hard worker, 143 00:08:06,879 --> 00:08:08,800 So I don't want to write him off completely. But 144 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,399 absent anything major changing on the field of play, former 145 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:16,120 Governor Cooper is really in the driver's seat there. And 146 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,360 you know what we've seen, and I've seen personally, is 147 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:23,079 that the national powers that be are not hesitant to 148 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,600 pull the rug out from under you if if the 149 00:08:25,639 --> 00:08:28,120 Poles stay where they are, I wouldn't be surprised to 150 00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:32,799 see the National Senate Republican Caucus end up pulling money 151 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:35,279 from North Carolina and trying to put it in places 152 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,559 like Maine or Georgia where they think they might have 153 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,240 more success. 154 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:41,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So let's do some predictions. Now. Do 155 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,360 you think the redistricting that the Republicans did, do you 156 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,039 think it's going to net the Republicans an additional seat 157 00:08:47,159 --> 00:08:47,879 in Congress. 158 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,159 Speaker 2: Well, it's supposed to. That was the whole point of it, 159 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,840 right right. One of my predictions is that that will 160 00:08:53,879 --> 00:08:56,679 not come to pass. Now, I'm a little bit out 161 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,759 on a limb there. Sometimes I make predictions. I'll let 162 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:04,279 you in on a little secret. Sometimes when I make predictions, 163 00:09:04,279 --> 00:09:09,759 I try to be provocative. Oh wow, yeah, that's a 164 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:13,320 big secret. Don't tell anybody. But I would not be 165 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:18,799 surprised if Republicans actually lose one of their seats or 166 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,919 stay right where they are at ten members of Congress. 167 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,200 I think Representative Don Davis has proven to be a 168 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,600 tough out in that first congressional district, and you know 169 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,720 it's redrawn to be a lot more advantageous for Republicans. 170 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:36,600 And I think, you know, Senator Bobby Haynig is a 171 00:09:36,639 --> 00:09:39,279 strong candidate. There's a couple other people up there are 172 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,480 that are good, but depending on how bad things go 173 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,039 in the economy, depending on, you know, what the national 174 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,960 environment is, I could see Don Davis keeping that and 175 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,200 I could actually see Representative Chuck Edwards losing. There's a 176 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,039 pretty strong Democrat over there, Jamie Ager. He's a farmer type, 177 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:02,120 seems to have a lot of buzz around him. Now 178 00:10:02,159 --> 00:10:05,720 he does have a primary too, but I could see 179 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,120 a world in which he pulls a big upset and 180 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,200 ends up knocking office an incumbent Republicans. 181 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that Agger name out in western North Carolina is 182 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,600 it's a long traditional political family, so that would not 183 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:23,039 surprise me. All Right, do we get a budget in 184 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,000 the General Assembly. 185 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: My prediction is no, that we don't. You know, everybody 186 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:32,360 is kind of saying everybody that I talked to up 187 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,360 in Raleigh is saying like, well, we got to get 188 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:39,200 past this Burger Page primary before anything could possibly move. 189 00:10:39,799 --> 00:10:42,799 And I am kind of again going out on a 190 00:10:42,879 --> 00:10:46,120 limb and saying, you know, either way the primary goes 191 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:50,759 if Burger wins or if Berger loses, there's a better 192 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,519 than even odds that the House and the Senate are 193 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:55,759 not able to come to any sort of agreement. And 194 00:10:55,799 --> 00:10:59,480 we do not have a comprehensive budget in twenty twenty six. 195 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: And you think that there are going to be a 196 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:06,480 couple of people that retire out of these statewide seats, 197 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:09,799 how confident are you in that? Or are you just 198 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:11,519 stirring the pot now on this one too? 199 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: Andrew, No, this one, I actually feel really good about 200 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:19,519 this one. And I can't say that speculating on Council 201 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,240 of State elections is it really gets the people going. 202 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,960 So I tried to keep this one real. But you 203 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,759 know when I twenty twenty six, especially towards the end 204 00:11:27,759 --> 00:11:29,720 of it, after November, is really going to be the 205 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:32,840 time where everyone starts reading the tea leaves and positioning 206 00:11:32,879 --> 00:11:36,159 themselves for twenty twenty eight. And we've got a couple 207 00:11:36,159 --> 00:11:38,120 of Council of State members who have been there a 208 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,559 long time are getting up in years, and so my 209 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:47,080 top prediction is that Secretary of State Elaine Marshall will 210 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,120 hang it up and not run for another term in 211 00:11:49,159 --> 00:11:51,759 twenty twenty eight. She's already eighty years old, she'll be 212 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,320 what eighty two by the next election day. She's had 213 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,200 a good run. My prediction is that she'll not run 214 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,399 in twenty twenty eight, and honestly, I think what will 215 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:05,399 probably happen is she will step down, retire from her 216 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,279 seat early to give give Governor Stein the ability to 217 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,720 appoint a replacement for her that then would have the 218 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:14,960 advantage of incumbency in twenty. 219 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: Eight, right, which then, I mean, if you're talking about 220 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,600 like agriculture Commissioner Steve Troxler or insurance commissioner might causey 221 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,679 that you name here. Also if they were to step down, 222 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,320 Stein would make those appointments. So I think that's a 223 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,600 pretty good incentive for them not to do so before 224 00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:32,480 the next election. But I don't know. We shall see 225 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,679 exactly if. 226 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:36,039 Speaker 2: You want, And of course it doesn't always work. You know, 227 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,960 Jessica Holmes got appointed the state auditor when Beth Wood 228 00:12:40,039 --> 00:12:42,440 stepped down and it didn't work out so well for. 229 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: Her, exactly right. If you want more of his predictions 230 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,200 and to make your own, go over to long leafpol 231 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,600 dot com Longleaf Politics. Andrew Dunn, thanks for your time, sir, 232 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,720 I appreciate it. Thank you hi man, Take care. 233 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:55,399 Speaker 2: You know. 234 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, 235 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,440 to understand experiences. 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I expect Luke 255 00:14:12,799 --> 00:14:15,679 Farley is interested in running for a higher profile seat. 256 00:14:17,279 --> 00:14:21,039 I've heard that about Dave Bullock. Not sure if he'll 257 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,480 do it this time well in twenty eight or if 258 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,720 he waits another four years because rather than challenge and 259 00:14:30,799 --> 00:14:34,159 incumbent Josh Stein just I mean, but then again, Josh 260 00:14:34,159 --> 00:14:37,200 Stein may be vulnerable in another two years, you know, 261 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,679 and maybe there are Republicans that want to take a 262 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,279 shot at him. So we'll see about that. But yeah, 263 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,799 there's a I talked with Andrew Dunn about Dave Bullock 264 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,679 a couple of a couple of weeks ago, maybe a 265 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,919 couple months, maybe two months ago or so, and we 266 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:56,480 discussed this very possibility about him looking for a run 267 00:14:56,639 --> 00:14:59,480 or looking at a run for governor. But you know, 268 00:14:59,559 --> 00:15:05,159 we'll say, we shall see. There was another story yesterday, 269 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:07,279 you know, we talked with ap Dylan from the North 270 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:12,200 State Journal and she had a piece at the NSJ 271 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,759 online dot com at their website about an underreported education 272 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,480 story for twenty twenty five, and it was that school 273 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:29,200 choice continued to thrive through the opportunity scholarship program, the 274 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:34,759 school vouchers through homeschooling, as well as support from President 275 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:40,960 Trump's administration. So public school enrollment levels dropped in twenty 276 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,440 twenty five by about twenty four thousand students, are down 277 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,279 about almost two percent, and that the enrollment levels dropped 278 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:52,080 in one hundred and five out of one hundred and 279 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:57,200 fifteen public school districts, so like nine out of ten 280 00:15:57,279 --> 00:16:02,200 districts saw their enrollment numbers. And all of this is 281 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,519 according to data that is available at the North Carolina 282 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:11,600 Department of Public Instruction now. Homeschooling data for last school 283 00:16:11,639 --> 00:16:15,519 year shows that there were almost one hundred and two 284 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:22,000 thousand homeschools and those one hundred two thousand homeschools serve 285 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,600 one hundred and sixty five thousand students, and that is 286 00:16:26,679 --> 00:16:31,039 an increase, so an increase of about eight thousand students 287 00:16:31,039 --> 00:16:34,039 that are now being homeschooled that were not the previous year. 288 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:40,480 Charter school enrollment also increased by about nine thousand students, 289 00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:42,879 that's at one hundred and fifty three thousand. So there 290 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:48,200 are more kids in homeschools in North Carolina now than 291 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:55,799 there are in charter schools and private school students. That 292 00:16:55,919 --> 00:17:00,000 number also increased. They are at one hundred thirty five 293 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,119 five thousand, seven thirty eight, one thirty five. So again, 294 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:11,400 homeschools have about thirty thousand more students in them than 295 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,240 private schools. So what did we hear when all of 296 00:17:16,279 --> 00:17:20,559 the lefties and Democrats and media But I repeat myself, 297 00:17:20,599 --> 00:17:23,720 when they were all complaining about the expansion of the 298 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:27,000 opportunity scholarships, about the school vouchers and stuff, and what 299 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:29,039 did they all say? Well, this is going to be 300 00:17:29,079 --> 00:17:34,920 subsidizing private schools. This is all for private schools, and 301 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,759 what is the data show? It's more so for homeschools, 302 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,119 for the homeschools. And I'm totally fine with that. Oh 303 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:50,359 but Pete, what about socialization? Yes, the old socialization argument, which, 304 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,720 first off, that argument may have been more solid thirty 305 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:58,440 years ago, which I wasn't deeming a big believer in 306 00:17:58,519 --> 00:18:02,960 that argument back then, but it's less so now. And 307 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,759 the reason why is numbers. There are so many more 308 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,599 homeschooled kids in North Carolina now that they have created 309 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:20,680 all sorts of extracurricular activities among their community. So like 310 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,359 the kids get all sorts of socialization, they can participate 311 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,880 in sports. Right, they can do these after school activities. 312 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,759 They have very rich social lives. It's not like this, 313 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,200 you know, this kid that's locked away and is living 314 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,960 a sheltered life and they don't know anything and all 315 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,480 of that. That's number one. Number two exactly what are 316 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:51,200 you socializing the kids about? You know, like what? But 317 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,759 I like, does the kid need to know how to 318 00:18:54,839 --> 00:19:01,400 fend off and attack from a mob of classmates? Is 319 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,079 that the kind of socialization that we want our kids 320 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,559 to experience? Do we want to send them into these 321 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,480 facilities so they can, you know, learn self defense? Is 322 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,079 that the idea they can learn six seven, they can 323 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,319 learn all that stupidity. Okay, the homeschoolers probably do that 324 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:22,200 thing too, But like, that's the socialization argument. Considering the 325 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:27,599 state of public education nowadays, it does not persuade me 326 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,279 at all. What else here? Oh? Hey, do you remember 327 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,640 when there was the big fight at the Charlotte City 328 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,400 Council about whether or not people would be allowed or 329 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,960 should be allowed to sell their trinkets on the sidewalks 330 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,599 in No Dot in the No Don neighborhood, the North 331 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,039 Davidson area just north of Center City Street. Vendors, right, 332 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,799 they were setting up on sidewalks, people couldn't get around. 333 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,920 Fistfights were erupting local businesses that are like, hey, I'm 334 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,160 paying for a brick and mortar and this competitor comes 335 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,000 and sits in front of my shop and is selling 336 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:05,400 the same stuff against me, right, And I got to 337 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,519 meet all these codes, I gotta have permits and all 338 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:09,839 of this, and they just get to like throw out 339 00:20:09,839 --> 00:20:16,039 a blanket and sell their dream catchers. So the city said, 340 00:20:16,079 --> 00:20:20,680 we will implement a six month pilot program to allow 341 00:20:20,839 --> 00:20:26,079 for permit holders to operate on the sidewalks. 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So the data 373 00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:21,680 point that occurred, and this was on track for the 374 00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:24,000 last I think, I don't know, year and a half. 375 00:22:24,039 --> 00:22:27,880 We knew this day was coming where the registrations of 376 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,400 Democrats were declining at a faster rate and the registrations 377 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,920 of Republicans were increasing slowly. And so we have now 378 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,039 crossed the point that happened this month. I think it 379 00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:43,559 was actually a couple months earlier than expected, where Republicans 380 00:22:43,559 --> 00:22:48,200 would now be the number one party registration in the state, 381 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:54,640 whereas Democrats have enjoyed that role for like one hundred 382 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,839 and fifty years. So, yes, there are now more registered Republicans, 383 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:06,680 but the number one registration by far is unaffiliated, and 384 00:23:06,759 --> 00:23:11,599 so unaffiliated not independence. People say this, Oh, I'm an independent, No, 385 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,519 you're not. Okay. If you're registered unaffiliated, that just means 386 00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:19,519 you're unaffiliated. It doesn't mean you're independent. There's no registration 387 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,559 for that status. Okay, there's no named independent registration. Unaffiliated 388 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:29,079 it means that you're not affiliated with any party, which 389 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,400 means you can vote in any party primary. That's what 390 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,000 I am. I am unaffiliated. Because I live in Charlotte. 391 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,160 I can only vote in mainly predominantly Democrat primaries for 392 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,680 any of the local officials. I don't have any chance 393 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,279 to vote for Republicans unless I choose to. You want 394 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:47,720 to vote in a presidential race or a US Senate 395 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:53,279 race or something like that, Generally it's all it's all 396 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:55,759 local races, and I don't get an option for a 397 00:23:55,799 --> 00:24:00,000 Republican because it's all Democrat controlled. So what that means, though, 398 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:02,359 is that there are like and I think it's almost 399 00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:05,000 there are more unaffiliated that I think if you add 400 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,920 up all the Democrats and Republicans, I think unaffiliated maybe 401 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,960 more than them total. Maybe, but I might be wrong 402 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,599 on that, but either way, unaffiliateds are by far the 403 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:22,960 number one registration in the state. However, unaffiliateds don't vote 404 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,519 in a less partisan fashion than people who are Republicans 405 00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:33,680 and Democrats. Unaffiliated in North Carolina generally speaking break fifty 406 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,319 to fifty, so you just as many just as much 407 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:40,200 as there are a lot of Republican voters who are 408 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,079 registered unaffiliated, but they will always vote Republican. There are 409 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,039 as many Democrats in the unaffiliated camp as well, and 410 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,839 they will always vote Democrat. And then you've got the 411 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,839 quote mushy middle that's still in there. And so you 412 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960 look at Roy Cooper's and I think what Andrew done 413 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,319 basing his prediction on the US Senate race on is 414 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,240 that Roy Cooper has won every state wide race he 415 00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:13,960 has ever run. And as much as Republicans may not 416 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,920 like him, unaffiliated to apparently do and they vote for him. 417 00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:21,799 And that's how he won, you know, his reelection even 418 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,839 after all of the COVID hysteria and the lockdowns and 419 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:32,839 his ed his executive directives or declarations. So yeah, like 420 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,279 that's that's why he. Josh Stein just won. And I 421 00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:39,240 know there are Republicans that believe that Stein stole the 422 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:44,319 election or something. There's no evidence of that. So and 423 00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:49,480 North Carolina has split their tickets for decades between federal 424 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:55,720 Republicans and state Democrats. Now that effect has waned, but 425 00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,079 that has been the that's been the historical norm. So 426 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:02,799 I suspect that's why. And also, you know Andrew made 427 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:09,519 the point about the the money that if the polling 428 00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:15,440 doesn't close for Wattley, because the polling shows that he's 429 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:20,880 down and the Republican Party. They're going to you know, 430 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,000 the National Republican Senatorial Committee, and they're the ones that 431 00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:27,240 you know pour you know, tens of millions of dollars 432 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:32,359 into these races to elect candidates and re elect their senators. 433 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:36,359 If they think that that Wattley is is toast, they're 434 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,319 not going to spend all the money here. They're going 435 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,279 to go and protect seats that are more winnable. And 436 00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:44,640 when that happens, now he can't go on the air. 437 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,680 He doesn't have as much money. Cooper has a vast 438 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,640 network of outside donors. You know, he built up that 439 00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:57,440 network during the HB two debate when he was attorney 440 00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:01,000 general and he and then challenged Pat Corarry for governor, 441 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,240 and he made all these business contacts, he got on 442 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,640 all the short lists, he's got all the donors from 443 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,359 all outside of North Carolina. He's got this vast network 444 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,559 to to tap into, and he's raised a lot of money. 445 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,559 He's got a lot of name id and he's got 446 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,680 a track record of winning what two governors races, four 447 00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:27,599 races for attorney general, so but almost you know, thirty 448 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,559 years in statewide elected office, winning every four years. That's 449 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:35,519 a difficult track record to beat and you may not 450 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,839 like him, but a lot of other people in North 451 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,000 Carolina are okay with him being their elected leader. So 452 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:45,960 and again like that may be something that you may 453 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,839 not understand, but that doesn't mean it's not true. Right, Like, 454 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,519 that's you just look at the historical data. I'm not 455 00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,319 predicting Cooper wins. I'm just telling you, like I'm thinking, 456 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,599 that's why Andrew Dunn is looking at these h these 457 00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:06,000 indicates and if Wattley's polling doesn't improve, then and well, 458 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,319 if Wattley wins and his polling doesn't improve, then the 459 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,759 NRSC pulls their funding. And that basically is the nailing, 460 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,799 one of the nails in the coffin of the Wattley campaign. Right, 461 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,559 that's the thinking that that I suspect Andrew is employed. 462 00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:29,359 Let me see, this is from Jim in rock Hill. 463 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,480 He says, totally agree on the homeschool stuff. We homeschooled 464 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,279 all six of our kids. Now they're all adults, contributing 465 00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:40,720 members of society. So many socializations slash community opportunities for homeschoolers. 466 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:44,799 For example, Piedmont Music Academy, Trailblazers cross country here in 467 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,640 rock Hill in the Greater York County area. I had 468 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,920 a message from David in Matthews. Anyone with an eye 469 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,960 for detail can pick up a home or can pick 470 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,519 a homeschooler out of a group of kids a million 471 00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:06,759 out of a million times. Uh, it's still probably better 472 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:10,759 than the mess that is CMS. I don't know how 473 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:12,799 you would pick a homeschooler out of a group of 474 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,640 kids just by sight, you would know them just by sight? 475 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,480 How do you like? Yeah, you're gonna have to give 476 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,559 me some more information, David, as to how you're making this, uh, 477 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:31,480 making this prediction? And then the hell in talking about 478 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,839 the vendors up in No Doll on the sidewalks the 479 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,319 vendors hog up the sidewalk and are nearly in the 480 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,000 road at the same time. Yeah, so, yeah, it's a 481 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:49,920 This is one of those things that like, I don't know, 482 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:54,799 I don't know why people feel the need to try 483 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:59,440 to rewrite the rules for sidewalk vending in No Dot 484 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,039 Like not at a dead show parking lot scene. Okay, 485 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,319 and trust me, I've been to dead shows. I enjoy 486 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,119 the parking lot scene. However, the sidewalk, the three foot 487 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,720 sidewalk in No Daw is not a parking lot. Okay, 488 00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,039 if you want to do some markets, you want to 489 00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:22,839 do some you know kind of festival fairs and stuff 490 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,319 like that, well, you know, find a parking lot and 491 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:28,279 make it a place where vendors can come up and 492 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,680 set up their tables, like a flea market or something. 493 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,960 But this idea of like, oh, we're just going to 494 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,079 do all of this like street vending in front of 495 00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:38,359 these businesses, and you're going to block the entrance to 496 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,200 their business. You're going to make it difficult for people 497 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,720 to get past you. Like. It's no, it was never 498 00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:44,680 a workable solution. 499 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:45,519 Speaker 2: All right. 500 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this show, you know I try 501 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,160 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 502 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,279 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 503 00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:55,519 say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well, because 504 00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:58,240 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 505 00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:01,599 been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and 506 00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:04,720 it's a website and it combines news from around the 507 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,400 world in one place, so you can compare coverage and 508 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,359 verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground, 509 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,720 dot news slash pete. 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Your subscription then not 519 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,920 only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News 520 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,440 as they make the media landscape more transparent. So remember 521 00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:56,000 all of the fact checks that came down about democratic 522 00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:01,960 socialists totally not a comy zoron Mamdani the comedy, they're like, 523 00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:09,079 actually he's not a communist. Yeah, he just appoints communists 524 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,400 to his administration. So we have another. Now, this is 525 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,799 Cia Weaver. I think it's her name, or c Weaver, 526 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,880 or or maybe it's Chaya Cea. How do you pronounce 527 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:30,920 that cea Kia Weaver? I don't know. Well, here, I'll 528 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,079 play your audio clip from some sort of a live 529 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,279 stream or something she was doing at some point a 530 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,440 year or two ago. And uh, here's what she was talking. 531 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,359 Speaker 3: About I think the reality is is that for centuries 532 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,920 we've really treated property as an individualized good and not 533 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,640 a collective good. And we are going to and transitioning 534 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:56,839 too treating it as a collective good and towards a 535 00:32:56,839 --> 00:33:00,480 model of shared equity will require that we think about 536 00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:05,960 it differently, and it will mean that families, especially white families, 537 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,720 but some POC families who are homeowners as well, are 538 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,200 going to have a different relationship to property than the 539 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,200 one that we currently have. 540 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,359 Speaker 2: Right. 541 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,559 Speaker 1: In other words, you won't own it. That's the different 542 00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:24,359 relationship you will have with your property. It's not your property. 543 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,319 If only is there a word to describe a political 544 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:34,640 philosophy that abolishes the idea of private property rights. See 545 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,960 here's the problem with communism, Marxism, socialism, the problem with it. 546 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,160 It's all encapsulated in these comments that she makes. I'm 547 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,640 gonna rerack it's only thirty seconds. I'm gonna rerack it here. 548 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,079 It's right at the beginning, right, See, if you can 549 00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:56,079 detect the fundamental flaw in the philosophy, I. 550 00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:59,839 Speaker 3: Think the reality is is that for centuries we've released 551 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:04,480 created property as an individualized good and not a collective good. 552 00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:08,119 And we are going to and transitioning to treating it 553 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,079 as a collective good and towards a model of shared equity. 554 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: For centuries, she says, And I would submit it's a 555 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,559 little bit longer than centuries. The concept of private ownership 556 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:30,039 of property, whatever that property might be. The concept, she says, 557 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:35,800 that we have thought about it as an individual good 558 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,639 rather than a collective good. Right do you know why? 559 00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:48,880 Because that's human nature, And so she says, in reality, 560 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,039 we're going to have to transition our thinking. And therein 561 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,119 lies the fundamental problem with all of this Marxist claptrap. 562 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,280 It is denying the very human nature that we all have, 563 00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:06,559 which is, look, you give a baby in a crib. 564 00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:09,559 If you give a baby one of those little mobile 565 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,559 spinner things up above them, right, and you put like 566 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:16,960 two items on it, and the baby's happy, you take 567 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,519 it away, that baby cries. It is instinctive we know 568 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,000 when somebody has taken something from us. They've even run 569 00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,920 these experiments with babies. They put the mobile up there 570 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,199 and they'll go from like five spinny objects down to 571 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,280 two or three, and the baby cries, like the baby 572 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,559 knows that it had five, even though it doesn't know 573 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:41,840 the concept of five, but it knows it had this 574 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,559 many things and now it's smaller. Somebody has taken something 575 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:50,039 from me. But the Marxist always believes that we will 576 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:55,199 be able to somehow transcend human nature. It is a 577 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,280 denialism in human nature. And because what happens when people 578 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,440 don't want to give up their stuff. What happens when 579 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,599 somebody says, no, I bought this home, I own this 580 00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:13,960 home just because you want to collectivize it for the community, equity, 581 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,360 whatever goal you've got, I'm not giving it up. And 582 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,079 that's when you have force. That's why socialism always relies 583 00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:26,679 on the force of the state to come in and 584 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,320 take from people that don't want to give up their 585 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,559 property because they won't get with the utopia project. Mamdannie 586 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:40,079 just appointed this woman as his tenant advocate. She has 587 00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:45,119 also called home ownership white supremacy. She's been floating around 588 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:48,280 the whole tenants rights circles for quite a while. Her 589 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,239 appointment makes clear that Mam Donnie is quite serious about 590 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,440 using the power of his office to use regulations to 591 00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:58,719 gradually seize private property through enforcement mechanisms that are at 592 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,280 the mayor's disposal. During his campaign, Mamdanni proposed that the 593 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,679 city identify landlords who do not respond to tenant complaints 594 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,159 fast enough, and if they don't respond fast enough, then 595 00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:16,800 they will seize their properties. Councilwoman of New York City, 596 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,599 Vicki Palladino, said, what he means is that pretty much 597 00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:24,039 every tenant complaint will move rapidly into property seizure. Look 598 00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:29,239 for DSA activists to begin agitating tenants to file frivolous 599 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:35,559 complaints to instigate the seizures. It's tyranny, she says. If 600 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,440 you are a small landlord that rents an apartment in 601 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,480 your own home, I strongly suggest you notify your tenants 602 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,039 that you will no longer be renting because Mamdani will 603 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:49,280 take your home. And, by the way, renters, expect your 604 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,599 rents to skyrocket in order to mitigate the risks that 605 00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:57,400 the landlords will have to take on if they choose 606 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,400 to remain in the market. Mamdani's only appointed tenant advocate. 607 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,320 This woman see a Weaver called to seize private property 608 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,440 that's a direct quote, blasted home ownership as a weapon 609 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,239 of white supremacy in a series of pro communist social 610 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:21,760 media posts. She self identifies as a communist. Okay, Mamdani 611 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:27,119 wants to impose a rent freeze. You freeze the rent, 612 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,239 You then encourage the tenant complaints about things not getting fixed. 613 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,639 But the landlords can't raise the rents because you've got 614 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,280 to freeze, so you can't raise the rents, which means 615 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,239 now you have to take a loss in order to 616 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,840 fix the things and to do it fast enough. And 617 00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:46,480 if you don't do it fast enough, the city is 618 00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:49,760 going to send in contractors to do the work and 619 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,760 then they're gonna bill the landlord, and if the landlord 620 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:58,039 can't pay it, then the city will seize the property. 621 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,880 This is how it always turns out people, every single time. 622 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,760 All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 623 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,800 so much for listening. I could not do the show 624 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,360 without your support and the support of the businesses that 625 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,519 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 626 00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:14,199 them too and tell them you heard it here. 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