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in the six foot three, two and fifty pounder that
still runs a four five forty Brady Pepingka. He can
still dunk to this day. Brady Papingka's online.
Speaker 3: Be Pop? How you live in?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up? Man? Yeah? That's I mean something when
you're forty six, you know, so, yeah, that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 2: Do you think you could play and start at a
college football Like, let's say eligibility was available to you
and you could play college football, make a little nil money,
maybe they pay you, you know, I don't know, I
don't know what you know, what what level of performance
you'd be at? But I mean, judging by your your
speed and your jumping ability, I feel like be Pop
could give you ten to twenty maybe thirty reps on
defense a game. Could you start for a Division one
fbs P four program right now?
Speaker 4: What a fun thing to imagine, right your body when
I'm here is like hell, healthy state. I don't have
like any bumps and bruises or any strains that I'm
having to fight through. You know, I think I could
do anything right, but reality is is I'm not sure
my neck would hold up.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: You know, my big thing is dudes in the face.
Speaker 1: That was what I did.
Speaker 4: That's you know, got me my name hammerhead. And you know,
I'm not sure the neck has got enough cartilage in
there to handle thirty players in college football, you.
Speaker 2: Know, but uh uh, you just had to speed rush.
It was all only passing situations.
Speaker 4: Then that then that you know, puts puts stress in
the whole other parts of your body, such as your
achillies and you know, your knees and you know all
that kind of stuff. So it's all like it's all
it all seems really fun when you're just training, but
in reality, the playing the torque, the wear and tear
you go through is so much more than just training.
You know, It's a whole other level of pushing your body.
And you know, at forty six, I don't even want
to find that out because I don't want to go
to a training room, you know, I don't want to
be in rehab, bro, So I don't even think I
would prefer not even to think about it. As a
matter of fact, Dude, I did my thing. Man. I
took that sponge and I freaking rung that sponge out
and drained it for every last drop possible.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: That's why I don't have any problems. They I'll never
go back, Dude. I laid it all out there, give
up basels, give up times, my family, fingers, tans, bones,
brain cells, gave it all. Gave it all, man, and
I got all back, you know. So I'm at peace.
But I don't need to do anything I can. I'm
more than happy to part my wisdom on anybody willing
to listen. But outside of that, yeah, I'm that's as
far as it goes.
Speaker 2: No regrets, love it, Brady. What's the health like of
this BYU football team? Do you think heading into Texas Tech?
I feel like the bye we couldn't have come at
a better time for BYU.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean this is where your depth is tested,
you know. And I think every team is going to
go is going through it in some way. Every guy
is gonna who's played significant minutes has got something uncomfortable
they're gonna have to deal with. The One thing that
I'm excited to see if it pans out this way,
I'm not sure it will, is to see these young guys.
Now we have we've seen flashes of guys come in,
you know, h on the defensive side of the ball
with our with Isaiah and and Jack having to kind
of deal with their ailements. You know, you've seen Kafushi
come in to play well all they're come in and
play well. I offered, excuse me, number thirty, come in
and play well. We've had, you know, offensively in the backfield.
You know, we we got to you know, Preston's come
in and as a as a streaker, you know, side
guy who's kind of your change up fly suite kind
of guy, has showed out well as from his conversion
the city, I think we got some really good depth
in addition to see Ony Moa and some of the
other guys that have played that haven't have got no
little reps. I mean, I'm really intrigued to see what
the Mooney can do. You know, if given the opportunity,
I think he run, he hits the whole hard. U
He's a little smaller guy. But how hard he hits
it to me is great. Just he needs to keep
two hands on the ball, that's it. I mean, he
fumbled against West Virginia, but I thought he had two
really good runs against them. And then you got, you know,
some other guys like you know, the Pain kid. You know,
I think his logan paining his name. Who's a red
shirt freshman, bigger build, smaller, stubby running back. Which you know,
whenever I played against running backs that were short and study,
they were not easy to bring down. You know, they
hide behind the offensive line and they have enough toughness
and explosiveness to hit that gap. And you get. The
thing that we can't forget either is our oar blocking
scheme is a zone blocking scheme that makes it to
where we actually have one of the greater, more vast
reaches of talent that can play in that scheme, which
has been proven through the NFL over and over again.
You know, the Shanahans made that popular, you know, with
their basically rolodex of running backs rushing for a thousand
yards that they either drafted late in the draft or
didn't even draft at all. And so we have that
same kind of scheme. And then on top of it,
we have a legit passing scheme that can also create
a lot of imbalances and keep it events honest and
help our running game thrive. You know, so I'm excited.
To me, it's all about depth. Of course, you want
the guys that are your your bell cows and your
your studs and your dominators to come back and participate
and do what they can. But you can't really rush
them back either. You know, you gotta go according to
their body clock, into their to their health. But this
is why we've built the team. This is why Harvey
Ungdah and all the other coaches have devloped these young
guys and to get them out there and have them
be productive, which I have really mixed. I mean, I've
seen these guys in practice. I have confidence they can
go in there and they can play well and help
us win football games. And that's that's what Klane and
his staff has built over the years.
Speaker 2: Brady, this uh, this BYU football team is going against
arguably their toughest foe in Texas tech Estics. Tech has
one loss. It was on the road. It was a
one score game to ASU. Every other game they've won
by I believe in average of thirty four points. The
closest margin was eighteen points versus Houston. They've been dominant
in their wins, be it on the road or at home.
How can BYU keep up? What's Bo's competitive advantage do
you think in this game?
Speaker 4: Well, the first thing is you have to give Texas
Tech credit. You know, they've built a really balanced team.
Their defensive line is as physical as a defensive front
in our conference, maybe in college football. They're right up
there with our guys. They're almost immovable. Their edge guys
are the two best edge guys number nine to thirty
one in the country, the tandem. I mean, they are streakers.
If you watch the Arizona State game over thirty one,
he had two sacks right back to the back, and
then they're like, oops, we better stop blocking this guy
one on one. We better start chipping in keeping tight
ends on them. You know, we better start kind of
like handling ourselves. And so all of a sudden, you
know we're in a situation where you know you're facing
the team that has power, they have speed, and then
you know they've got weapons on the outside. Offensively, they're tall, long,
they got a running back and twenty that can just
hit a home run any play. If you saw him
against Kansas State, I mean he was a nightmare out
on the edges. And then you have number eight who
comes in as a nice compliment with the straight forward
power running style that's boring in between the tackles. So
they check all their boxes. The only real question mark
is I just don't know about the quarterback. You know
they've had these quarterbacks in and out, but the reality
is is that you know they've they've played well enough to,
like you said, control games and win running away, and
so they're a talented team. The biggest thing that we
have to do is first you have to understand that
we're just as talented across the board as they are.
We're talented in different ways. The second thing is as
understanding that in any of these games, and I think
our team has understand it as well. Like against Utah,
I think as a fair one last week, and I
always stay in Even at Arizona, I thought were three
games where we understood that their talent level is as
good as ours. And the way you win is you've
got to be clean in your execution because as soon
as we cleaned up our execution versus all those teams,
it became a game of execution and we won out.
And that's what I think this game is going to
come down to, beause we stay tight and don't lose
our minds the first part of the game because it's
such a high game and you're playing Texas Tech and
blah blah blah blah blah. If everybody can keep their
minds and have their wherewithal and just focus on execution,
I think we'll be in a good place because that's
what it comes down. You've got to be able to execute,
and you've got to be able to execute the cleanest,
and that generally is the determining factor when talent is
equal of who comes out on top.
Speaker 3: LJ. Martin is listening on the depth chart.
Speaker 2: I imagine he's going to be available to play versus
Texas Tech, and the shoulder injury he sustained versus Iowa
State is not as serious as some may have thought.
That's a big boon for by you getting LJ back
this week.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but I think you always have to, like
I said, be willing to relign your depth, especially there.
Don't I don't I don't think it's fair to the staff,
to the younger guys to just say LJ, we're riding
or dying with him, which I don't think the team
thinks that way. Obviously, last week in there or the
week before again inside the State, it kind of worked
out that way because they only had so many guys
up right to play in that game based off of
who's traveling and you know who they're trying to renscher
those kinds of things. Now, I'm sure this week changes,
but LJ is not. I mean, okay, let me get this.
LJ is really good, phenomenal. What makes a running game go, though,
is always the offensive line, and that's what I'm most
excited about. And that's why the fact is their offensive
line is intact. Uh, there's consistency there. We have the
same guys playing week in and week out, so they're
they're cohesive, and I do believe you get a guy
who could run hard behind them one cut. You know,
Roderick's gonna scheme them up regardless of who's in there.
They're gonna play to their strengths and they're gonna scheme
up this scheme to where we're gonna be able to
run the ball. Uh, that's who we are. And then
when you have a quarterback who can run the ball
also and then throw it, that also opens up alleys
and and holes in the running game. So I think
a running game with or without MJ is still going
to be really good. Obviously with him he had he
adds this level of physicality and talent and physical raw
ability that most guys don't have, which is always a bonus.
But I don't think it's so hinging on him being
available that we just all of a sudden can't run
the ball. If we can't run the ball, usually it'll
come down to execution. Uh, missed targets, you know, poor vision,
you know things that basically like we can control. Because
we can execute, we can find holes against this defense.
I promise you. That's what we saw with Kansas State.
We've seen it with all teams, even Utah. You know
their their biggest problem is is Dan Pire was unhealthy.
He had he had this right ankle injury which he's
been dealing with all here, and he just hasn't been
able to run the same. So we really haven't seen
up until last week in Kansas State. But you know,
Pansas State quarterback. It's more of a slasher. He's not
really a power quarterback. But they've never really seen a
power offense, power running offense like ours with a quarterback
that can also run power football, you know. So it'll
be interesting to test him in that way and see
how they'll respond.
Speaker 2: Pretty papinga here on ESP and the Fan discussing little
college football, Little BAYU football as they prep for Texas Tech.
The path to the Big Twelve championship is before BYU they.
Speaker 3: Got Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: You got to focus one game at a time, obviously,
and then you have some other difficult foes on the schedule,
Cincinnati on the road, TCU at home, UCF at home.
Speaker 3: I think A Rod dubbed this.
Speaker 2: Back end of the schedule starting with U of A
is the most difficult stretch of games in BAU football history.
I think the only other stretch of games I would
say that could be deemed as more difficult was when
you played in two thousand and four. You guys had
like Notre Dame and Boise State and USC the national champion,
And what do you recall about that stretch and what
type of toll did that take on your team?
Speaker 4: Well, I remember we had Utah at the end of
the year who was as good and better than USC,
and USC was looked at as one of the best
college football teams ever, which that was obviously hyped up.
But the reality is is that we're equipped for it now.
When we played, we did not have the talent the
BYU have today. We didn't have the depth, and that
was very evident in all those games as you know
where you're trying to, you know, muscle ourselves through those
But the reality is is like, yeah, it's it is.
Roderic is correct, it's the herd. I would say this
is the hardest stretch in the history Ualia football. Buck
we're also the most talented, best coach team in the
history of football right now. And that's not taking anything
away from the past. We're just talking about the whole
new set of resources that sets the standard at a
completely different level where you're able to pay your best coaches,
pay to get your best players, and that just makes
it to where you can get the best talent and
the best coaching. So we're ready, I mean, we're equipped
to go through and be fine. I don't see any
problem with this. We're right where we want to be.
Like I said, it comes down to execution, comes down
to playing clean, and that's this is how you play.
When you're at a level of football where everybody's talent
is basically equal, the differentiator comes down to being clean
and how you play. And that's why I like our
guys in these situations. That's what we have with YU
And you got to give the coaching staff a lot
of credit. You got to give the players a lot
of credit for learning these schemes. But when we play clean,
it doesn't matter who we face. We are really really
hard to be.
Speaker 2: One of the differentiators in many of these games has
been special teams. I was looking at the analytics and
once again, BYU has a significant competitive advantage and efficiency
metrics on the special teams. By US ranked six in
the country. Texas tak eightieth in the country. You know,
how will be while you maybe navigate that competitive advantage,
where do you see that playing out?
Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I mean it plays out in field position,
It plays out in potential fake punts. You know, there's
there's a lot of you know, fake kicks. You know,
Kelly does a nice job too of mixing in a
lot of different style of kickoffs. We saw that against
I think it was Utah where they did like kind
of that squid and they almost care. Maybe it was
against the team before where they got they squibbed it
just kind of knowing that the team that they're facing
wasn't ever going to run back a kickoff, trying to
force them to to to run one back and they
almost got the fumble recovery and they pinned them inside
the twenty five. You know, So there's there's all these
nuances that Kelly does. It's really nice. But overall, I
think what special teams does our school at BYU is
they energize the team. You know, they got starters playing
on the team, but you just got guys that are
just selling out. Guys see that they respond to that
kind of energy and that it kind of trickles to
all the other units offensive and defensively because they're all
mixed with offense and the defense guy. So it kind of
stirs the pot, so to speak. So it's a it's
an important part of what we do, and Kelly and
Kwani and their coaching staff, Jay's involved in this heavily
also knows that, and they come into every game ready
and prepared to call fakes at the most darnest times. Man.
And I will give us a little inside information to
people right here. I want everybody to know that Kelly
will and I'm not going to tell you the circumstances,
but Kelly will say to me, Brady, on this circumstance,
we were gonna call a fake and I decided not to.
And I'm like, Kelly, you're scared me. Man, You're just
scared me. But if you look at his you know,
his his rate of fake successes, You're like, I get,
I get why he's like so confident.
Speaker 3: Well, very killan.
Speaker 2: He's one of the most aggressive fourth down play callers
in the country since twenty sixteen. Like, I don't know
if he goes forward on fourth down more than anybody,
but he's got to be up there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. But the thing is that they don't just
do that out of paste. You know, they're not just
throwing yeah, let's just do it. They have a whole
analytics that they go with and they base it off
of that, and they have also a field. But the
most part they're they're just looking at indicators. You know,
they're playing the game of the percentages more than playing
what tradition says, Oh, we're at the forty nine and
it's fourth and one, Okay, let's pump the ball. I mean, member,
that used to be kind of the thing back in
the day. Now if you look at the analytics, it's like, no,
you should go for it, because the upside far out
weighs the downside to the point where, yeah, even the
worst thing that possibly could happen still isn't that bad
considering what could be earned if you got that one yard.
And then you got to figure, well, how confident are
we and getting a yard? You know what I mean,
It's like we should be confident. If not, we shouldn't
even you know, feel like we should win the game
in some ways, you know. And so yeah, I mean
it's a completely different level to have a completely different feel.
But yeah, he was like when Kelly was talking like that,
I'm like, man, you're scaring me. But at the same time,
I was like, dude, I like him, you know. In
my head, I was like, I didn't say anything about it,
but I was just like, I like it though, because
he doesn't allow tradition and the clanies the same way,
they don't allow tradition to play a part into their
analytical decisions. They just go with the numbers and with
what their indicators are and they're disciplined to that. So
that's why I was like, from a Texas Tech perspective
or any opponent of BIU from a special team standpoint,
you better spend time practicing every punt, fake punt you
can imagine, every fake, little on site nuanced kick you
can imagine. You got to be able to you know, reverses.
They have these cool little plays and their return game.
They're really difficult. And then at the same time you
have to be smart with yourself scouting and not overload
yourself to where you're susceptive. I mean it, it creates nightmares,
and that might be another advantage They just teams probably
either have to spend more time on special teams or
they have to spend more mental energy worrying about fakes
that maybe potentially can take away from it other areas
that they otherwise would.
Speaker 2: Be preparing at this bau Texas Tech game got a
little bit nasty when the last time they played at
Lavelle Edwards Stadium, there was a lot of spit going on.
Do you remember this they're the Texas Tech football players
were spitting on Bau's play.
Speaker 3: Finally they they got called for it. I think.
Speaker 4: Bad though. I think it's just some of the guys.
You know, I remember when I played, you had a
couple of guys that were go unhinged and they kind
of lose their minds and you're like, what the heck?
That really escalated from zero to one hundred botles an
hour in a second. And usually those guys are not
playing any longer because you have to have some poise
about you. But no, I don't think there was any
anything personal. You know, there was nothing that was like
you know, uh to where it was like on the
verge of fights. I thought it was overall respectful except
those isolated incidences, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
don't think it was really that big a deal outside
of the spit flying. And like I said, that was
one guy and he was immediately removed from the game
by his coach. He didn't even see the field after that.
It's kind of sad for him. But but I was
at the game. I was on the sideline. That was
one of my first games that I've come to as
an embedded between quotations, guy with yu and and you
know Texas, tex got playmakers. Man, they got guys, and
they're even better now, you know. So they're a good team.
Speaker 2: Crazy times in college football? What do you make of
all the cannibalism going on as well? Big ten sec
acc everybody seems they've they've got like two losses or
maybe an embarrassing one loss to a team that they
probably you know, purportedly shouldn't have lost to.
Speaker 3: What do you make of it?
Speaker 4: Well, there's just more and more parody, you know what
I mean. The biggest indicator is that we have Nick
Saban no longer coaching. I don't think people really know
Nick Saban's story in the NFL, but his story in
the NFL in two thousand and five or six, No,
two thousand and five, it is my rookie year, was that, uh,
he couldn't be an authoritative person in the NFL. He
actually had to be somebody who decided to, Hey, I
gotta coach with these guys, and I gotta I gotta,
I gotta build a culture that allows for guys to
like want to actually come here and want to actually
play here, even if I'm coaching him you know, and
he didn't like that because they weren't very good. He
lost his control of the team. And then he immediately
goes to college. And in college, you know, when there's
no transferring, you can treat guys as poorly as you
want them. You know, you can. You can be rate them,
you can humiliate them. And that's kind of that old
school coaching that Nick Saban professed. And then you know,
I mean it's very common. I talked to my former
teammates in the NFL, who are Alabama guys. This isn't
new news. I'm not breaking any news right now. But
they paid guys before you could actually pay guys, so
they had a corner on all these market you know,
paying all these this talent, you could control them. And
it did. It created a lack of parody, and it
tilted the you know, the advantage in their favor. And
other teams that did the same thing and both the
Big ten the SEC, and all of a sudden, you
don't have Nick Saban coaching because he can't thrive in
this environment, just like he couldn't thrive in Miami. And
I look at college football now as a close and
his paralleled to the NFL because it's like free agency,
but it's every year free agency. So you have to
have a coaching staff that's enjoyable to work with, that
they're going to develop you. And then at the same time,
you know, you can acquire talent in the open market.
And so every year, like Utah, I mean they went
from a really bought basement, basement, bottom of the basement
team last year and then they rebuilt through the portal
basically and through hiring you know, John Beck and getting
Dan Pierre or Jason Beck excuse me, to now having
a legit, you know, top tiered offense in the in
the whole college football you know. So it's just more parody,
that's the bottom line. It's more parody. And like I said,
the big indicator that as you look at a guy
like Nick Saban, the fact that he doesn't want to
play and he's cried that it's actually on FA that's
a good sign. We all should be worried if all
of a sudden he gets back into coaching. We should
all be like, well, the system's changing. We should all
be concerned. But no, I think this is the best
time college football has ever been because, like even with
BYU at eight and zero. I'm not feeling this stress like,
oh man, we better go undefeated or are chances that
going for a championship are gone. I don't feel that
way at all, you know, I feel like, hey, we
got to get better week in week out. We gotta
go compete. But it's not like there's zero margin of
air here. You know, we could go and have a
hiccup here and pick ourselves up and win there, and
even have another hiccup and still find ourselves in the
championship game. And that's why, like the rankings really don't
mean much to me right now, because it's like, who cares.
We're gonna this is long gonna play out anyway. You know,
whether we're in top ten, we're in the top five,
top twenty five, doesn't matter. You know, we're gonna get
a chance to either qualify for the championship for the
conference or not. If we do, we're gonna have a
chance then to go face whoever's gonna be in that
championship game to then qualify for a playoff spot or
a big boat or not. And it's all gonna be
determined on the field. That's all you can ask one
that's why it's a beautiful system.
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Speaker 2: Boom shaka Laca. Well can't wait for this BYU Texas
Tech Matchup. It's a big one. Hopefully there's no spit projectiles.
Uh this game. Last time, I posted the evidence. I
don't know if you saw this, but I posted a
few videos or the evidence of the spittle projectiles and
some crazy tech fans went onto my orthopros Google review
and started giving me one star reviews.
Speaker 3: I had like four or five of them. I remember
that it's crazy bro. I had to go U.
Speaker 2: I had to go to Google and say, hey, these
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is crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's just petty nest at its best and
uh sorry you had to go through that band. But
you know, at the end of the day, some people
just are dumb. Just what happens.
Speaker 2: People are stupid, all right, Brady, We appreciate you man,
Thanks for hopping on is always.
Speaker 4: Always pleasure. Buddy, go koogs.
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