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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media.

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Speaker 2: I'm Vengeance. Who's me?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back here we are, Jason. I have a very

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special present for you, all right, what is it? Yesterday

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I bought us tickets to see The Batman.

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Speaker 3: The Batman on March first. We're gonna be watching The Batman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you were waiting till Friday to watch it,

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definitely listen to this podcast. There will be spoilers at

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the end, but we will give you fair one.

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Speaker 3: We've got some cool research for you to prep you

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for this movie. Yes, okay, what do you got for Usty?

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Speaker 2: All right? So our story begins with the end of

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one of the worst movies I've ever seen, which is well,

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I can't even believe it. That does Rise of Skywalker

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have to do with the No, that's your hated movie.

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The one that I despise is the Joss Whedon Justice League.

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I hated it from minute one. Tried my best throughout

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the movie to love it, and I didn't. But still,

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despite all that, I waited around for the end credits scene.

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And the end credits scene has a character that you

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may or may not know. Driving up to this yacht

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you said you had something I'd want. You better not

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be wasting my time death stroke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So.

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Speaker 2: Ben Affleck had in Batman in the previous two movies.

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He's been in Batman Versus Superman or Superman versus Batman,

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whatever that one was. And the plan was that Ben

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Affleck was going to write a script for the next

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Batman movie.

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Speaker 3: Ben Affleck and Jeff John's comic book Superstar Jeff Johns,

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We're gonna write the next movie. I actually told you

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that I had forgotten that Ben Affleck had even played Batman.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was forgettable. It was very forgettable. I love

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Ben Affleck and a lot of stuff, but his Batman

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was not one that was super memorable. Right, Why did

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you say.

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Speaker 3: The name or the I didn't forget that much, I guess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually kind of enjoyed the Batman Versus Superman movie.

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I didn't like that to kill people in it, but

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it wasn't I didn't hate it as much as a

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whole lot of other folks did.

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Speaker 3: I felt like that one was rushed. They tried to

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do too much in the course of one movie.

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Speaker 2: So what we've learned and going through these Batman and times,

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is that the Batman goes up and down. But as

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we mentioned in our previous episode, Michael Uslan wanted people

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to know what the real Batman was like. He put

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together a film company called bat Film's Ink, and ultimately

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they are the ones that produced Batman eighty nine, which

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took Batman back to the dark one.

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Speaker 3: It was quick. We both love Batman eighty nine, yes,

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and then they started to slide.

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Speaker 2: A little bit. Batman returns not nearly as good, not

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half as good, and then Tim Burton stepped away and

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we got Joel Schumacher and Nipples.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Batman Forever had its moments, and then we got

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Batman and Robin, which was horrendous.

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Speaker 2: So what we've learned is then when we get to

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that camp again, what's destined to happen? Will we get

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Christopher Nolan involved and it goes back to the dark again,

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and we've got reality and realistic and Heath Ledger is

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Joker and it is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: You complean me.

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Speaker 2: And then Zack Snyder get involved and I love a

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lot of what he does, but he had some trouble.

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Josh Whedon took over and by the time we've gotten

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our last appearance of Batman once again. It's writing, not good,

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just kind of a misfire with those big missfire. So

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Ben Affleck has written a script, yes, and then he's

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going through some troubles.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes he is.

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Speaker 2: And while that script is out there, they're looking for

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a director and they hand it to a young director

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named Matt Reeves.

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Speaker 3: Well, before we get to Matt Reeves, let's talk about

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ben Affleck's struggles.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like this is a part of the story.

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Ben Afflack was going to he wrote the screenplay. Sorry,

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ben Fleck was He had written the screenplay with Jeff Johnson. Yes,

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he was going to star as Bruce Wayne and Batman

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and he was going to direct. That's a lot, yeah,

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and it's really a lot. When you're going through a divorce,

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you're an alcoholic, you have to go to rehab and

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you're sick of the character. Yeah, I mean, he just

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he ran out of steam, couldn't do it, had personal problems,

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Speaker 2: So Matt Reeves gets Ben AFFLECKX script. He's been shooting

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and when he looks at it, he's like, this is great.

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was a James Bond style Batman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, James Bond's style, and he's going to face death stroke,

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you know. And and I'd read that the joker, like

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Jared Leto from Suicide Squad, the Batman movie was going

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to be like the Game About like Fincher. So it

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had some good things, I think, but it just wasn't

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matt Reeves the script right.

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Speaker 2: And then with ben Affleck going through the troubles that

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he's going through, he ultimately decides to pull out of

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the picture. Yeah, and so one of her brothers calls

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matt Reeves back up. Before we get there, let's talk

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about Matt Reeves. I want you to do me a favorite.

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Speaker 4: I want you to tell all your friends about me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who is this guy?

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Speaker 2: Who is this guy? Well, well, this guy is a

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guy who's been friends with JJ Abrams since they were

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thirteen years old. JJ Abrams, if you don't know, did

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the Star Trek reboots. He did Force Awakens and you're

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most hated Star Wars movie. But he's not. He's not

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an insignificant character. I mean he's huge.

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Speaker 3: He rebooted the Star Wars and Star Trek franchises. You

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don't get that by being a no hotellent hacker.

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Speaker 2: I know. I mean, and he did Super eight, which

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is a great movie. He's done a bunch of really

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fantastic stuff. I don't want to only look at the

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stuff that we're unhappy with. He is an amazing director.

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But he and Matt Reeves met when they were thirteen.

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Just a few years later, this is so bizarre. A

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few years later, they get a job from Steven Spielberg

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taking his Super eight movies and moving them to VHS.

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How does that happen? Well, they had been making short

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films themselves. I guess that's what with the glue of

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their relationship. Was like, hey I want to make movies.

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Hey me too, So make short films and would come

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out on public access TV on the Z channel.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if Spielberg was watching the Z Channel.

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I don't know what the deal was. But somehow Spielberg

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knows about these two kids and hires them, and they

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met Kathleen Kennedy. I mean, how does what right? So

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he hires these two kids to move his Super eight

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stuff to VHS. They both are like, well, now we know,

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our destiny is to make movies, right, Yeah, and so

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he ends up going to USC as a screenwriting student.

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Speaker 3: Actually, you know, before we go too much further with

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of directors that they were interested in kicking this too.

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and Vennis Villa Nueva. So Warner Brothers was talking to

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other big name directors to take over the Batman franchise. Okay,

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but I mean George Miller, Ridley Scott.

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Speaker 2: Ridley Scott, that would have been an interesting Batman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So and once again they go with kind of

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the unknown guy, much like Tim Burdon and Christopher Nolan.

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Speaker 2: Right right, Well, Matt Reeves is a little bit more

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known than they were. It's just that maybe not everybody

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else in the world knows, but he had done some

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amazing stuff. Okay, Okay, So he goes to USC where

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he's a screenwriting student for the writer Jeff Loeb who

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wrote like the Lost series. He's I mean renowned guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He ends up making a student film called Mister Petrified's Forest,

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which is an award winning student film that he's made,

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which because it wins awards, he gets himself an agent.

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what's the first kind of movie I want to make? And,

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like you and me, he loves Diehard, so he's like,

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I'm going to make a Diehard style movie. And he

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writes the script and the agent sells it, and it

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he's like, oh great, who's going to star? And they're like,

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under Siege too, Dark Territory.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't write that movie. And they're like, well, yeah,

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you did it. You did yeah, And so what you

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technicality here. He is the screenwriter for under Siege to

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Speaker 3: Now I have seen I saw under Siege Too. In

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Speaker 2: So he ends up directing a couple of movies. His

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debut movie is called Future Shock, which came out in

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ninety four, and it looks not good. I haven't seen it,

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but it doesn't look like a good movie.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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neither one of them are very good, so it's not

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looking to promise him. For him, he goes back to

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his friend JJ. They start working on a movie idea,

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which ultimately becomes a TV show called Felicity.

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Speaker 2: He ends up doing TV for the next ten years,

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like he's the TV guy. He does all kinds of

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different TV shows, but not doing any big directing until

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two thousand and eight, and he comes out with this

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low budget horror movie produced by his friend JJ Abrams

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called Cloverfield and it is a huge success. Then he

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no different Twilight Twilight Zone. He gets they are going

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to rebooth the Twilight Zone. He signs on, but then

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they make him an offer he can't refuse. Okay, So

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Matt Reeves loved two things when he was a kid,

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The Planet of the Apes Yeah, and Batman comic books.

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and twelve, he gets on offer to

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Speaker 3: By Tim Burton.

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Speaker 2: Tim Burton, right, not a big success, right, second one

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Speaker 3: I've seen those two Planet of Day movies. They're pretty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really good. I'm neither one of us are

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you've got Andy Serkis as the Ape, and so the

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acting is on point.

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so sure. So Matt Reeves gets Ben Afflecks and he

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looks at it and he's like, this is awesome, but

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this is not my Batman, right. I mean, this will

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be a great movie, and whoever makes it, it's going

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to be fantastic. But I have a different idea for

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Batman altogether. Yeah.

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to go back to like Batman The Long Halloween or

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Batman Year one or Batman ego. And being a comic

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book fan, I've read The Long Halloween and you're one.

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also the comic books that inspired The Dark Knight.

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Speaker 3: He also took the style from the nineteen seventies uh

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huh movies like The French Connection and Clute and Chinatown

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and Taxi Driver and The Conversation Francis Ford Coppola and

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Speaker 2: If you've watched the trailer, I mentioned this to you.

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I was like, this looks very much like a David

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Fincher movie to me, right right, there's all kinds of rain.

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these little clues I mean screams David Fincher, right, sure,

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David Fincher serial killer style yep. And then the other,

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of the mix, he's Kirk Cobain from your Secret Friend.

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episode that in the trailer they're playing really low something

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in the Way off of Nirvana's never Mind, right, And

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he played that on loop while he was writing the

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scripts exactly. And so his idea was to make Bruce

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Wayne rather than playboy billionaire stud to make him a reclusive,

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dark rockstar Kirk Cobain.

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Speaker 2: Right, maybe drug addict, right, like his millions of dollars

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are meaningless to him. And if you've seen the documentary

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that Gus van Zandt did on Kirk Cobain called Last Days,

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he said that was a big inspiration for him as

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he was making this film. As a matter of fact,

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in Last Days, you'll see these amps that are just

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stacked up in a corner. Keep an eye out for

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those in the Batman. So he's listening to Something in

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the Way, and he is referencing all of these Fincher

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movies and all of these seventy movies, and that's how

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he comes up with the storyline. But also something else

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that he sees in this time period is a movie

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called Good Time. It's a movie that came out in

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twenty seventeen, starring an actor that has been doing stuff

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for twenty years. Okay, his name is Robert Pattinson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now I say he's been doing stuff for twenty years

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because for a whole lot of people, when they heard

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that he was going to be the new Batman, they said,

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the Twilight guy. Right, Okay, he's done some other stuff

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since then. What he did, I mean, he was he's

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a very handsome man. Right, there's no question he's a

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handsome guy. He was playing those handsome guy parts. But

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what he said is, I don't want to be that guy.

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I don't want to be that actor. Much like Keith Ledger.

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He was like, I want to find movies that mean

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something to me and when I'm hungry enough to do

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those movies. And so he's been in a ton of

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indie movies and when I heard Good Time was the

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thing that triggered Matt Reeves to go, Okay, I want

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this guy as my Batman, and he wrote the whole

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thing with him in mind. I watched it. I watched

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it today. I've watched three quarters of the movie today

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and it is awesome. I encourage everybody who's skeptical about

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Robert Pattinson to go check out Good Time before you

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watch The Batman, because he's got shops. He is a

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solid actor and not just a pretty boy a pretty

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vampire who twinkles in the summer.

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Speaker 3: Well, we talked about that in our previous episodes that

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you know, people freaked out when Michael Keaton got the

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part of Batman. Yeah, I mean that's mister mom and Beetlejuice, right,

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People freaked out about that and people hit the ceiling

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when Robert Pattinsons got this role. Let's see how he

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does guys. Yeah, when you're talking about Matt Reeves and

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when he's writing this screenplay, he's thinking about the bad guy. Okay,

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so we've talked about him being influenced by seventies movies.

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He is influenced by Fincher. We both talked about how

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this looks just like seven, but another Fincher movie is Zodiac.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The one time that you see the Riddler, not

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as you know, just the guy in the coffee shop

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where he's actually got some sort of costume on the

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costume looks nothing like Jim Carrey. It looks nothing like

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the sixty four Riddler with the green suit and the

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question marks. It looks like the Zodiac Killer from Zodiac

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by David Fincher. And just like in Zodiac, he's sending

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out these cipher messages that you have to solve the

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riddle in order to figure out who's involved in the crime.

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Right and seven, same style. And I'll say this, go

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watch that trailer. Go watch the trailer that begins with

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the dark, rainy street and the neon bar and the

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police are coming in. Edward n Ashton, aka the Riddler.

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You never see his face. He's just sitting there having

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a cup of coffee and he slowly raises his hands.

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This guy's giving himself up, just like John Doe and seven,

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just like the Joker in the Dark Night. This has

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got to be part of a plan. I'm so excited

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to see what they're going to do with this serial

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killer Riddler giving himself up. Cipher's Year two. This is

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what we're taking on is year two where the Batman

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is troubled and doesn't know how to do things right yet.

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I mean, you look at year one, he's messing stuff

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up he's getting people killed. He's walking around without the

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batsuit on, like in the Red Light District, which is

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how he meets Selena Kyle. I mean, this is some dark,

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gritty stuff. But also if you watch the trailer, you

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get lots of action, so hopefully Matt Reeves said, I

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want deep art film style, but I don't want to

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lose the action, and that's how we're going to get

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the muscle car busting through the flames. Got so, I

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got so.

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Speaker 3: I do think there's gonna be a lot of action.

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I do think. I do agree with you. It's Barry

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Fincher esque. But I've read that they're going to really

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emphasize his detective skills. Okay, remember we talked about in

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Batman eighty nine where he's like, all of a sudden,

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he's like, it's Harris brain deodorant.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Wait, wait, what how do you know you figured that out?

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So it's a whole bunch of noir and detective skills

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and serial killer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Matt Reeves was reading Mind Hunter by John Douglas. Have

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you ever read that book? No, I have read that book.

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It's fascinating and disturbing. John Douglas is who the Scott Glenn,

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character in Silence of the Lambs is based on he

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wrote a book like compiling all of the serial killers

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and what their emos were and how they worked.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we talked about how Matt Reeves was a

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Batman fan, yes, And we talked about how Year one

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is a major influence on this, right, sure, And we

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talked about how Taxi Driver is a major influence on this.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So there's a frame in Year one that when Matt

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Reeves was reading and he was like, Batman looks like

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the taxi driver in this one. That's what he looks like. Well,

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a while later he got the commemorative edition of Year one,

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which had basically like liner notes in the back of it,

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and one of them was a note from Frank Miller

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to David Mazaicelli, who's the artist on it, and his

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note is I want Batman to look like he's won

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a Taxi Driver lookalike contest. So they are literally on

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the same page.

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Speaker 3: Taxi Driver starring Roberts de Niro. We were going to

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talk about the Godfather and Godfather too here next week. Yeah,

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and it's going to be amazing.

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Speaker 2: Who the hell so you talking talking to me. Well,

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I'm the only one here. Let's talk about let's start.

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Let's talk about casting now, Okay, So first, I think

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and foremost, let's talk Robert Pattinson. Right, Sure. So when

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Robert Pattenson gets the offer to come audition for The Batman,

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he's in the middle of filming a movie called Tenant

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with Christopher Nolan. I know this is fascinating, right, and

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so he has to lie to Christopher Nolan and say,

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I can't be there today. I have a family emergency.

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But Christopher Nolan, I mean, he's in touch with all

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things WB and the Batman. So his immediate response is,

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you're gonna go audition for the Batman, aren't.

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Speaker 3: That's great?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah. So when he does his audition, he

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wears Val Kilmer's suit, which Christian Bale also wore, veil

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flower suit, and they did his screen test, right, So,

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as we mentioned that.

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Speaker 3: Would did not have nipples as far as I can remember.

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Speaker 2: So, as we mentioned, he Matt Reeves had him in

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mind after seeing Good Time, right, and so he's been

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the image the whole time. But when he first he's like,

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I don't even know if he's interested. You know, he's

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doing these indie art films. I don't know that he's

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going to be wanting to do a big superhero movie, right.

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And he talks to Robert, and Robert Pattinson is also

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a Batman fan. Bigo, all the lights clicking. That's great, Okay,

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so let's talk cast. Okay. When you go to IMDb,

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the first personalist, very first person number one is an

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actor named Barry Keegan who's been in Christopher Nolan's Dunkirk. Okay,

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and his character is Stanley Markle. I had to look

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up Stanley Markle. Stanley Markle was apparently a partner of

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James Gordon's when he first got started. I think he

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ends up later getting killed by the Hangman. He has

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relatives that are criminals, so I don't know how he's

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going to play into all of this. It's just weird

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to me that this guy, who we've not seen a

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bit of him in any of the trailers is the

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number one guy on IMDb. Okay, number two, you get

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Robert Pattinson. That makes sense. And then we've got Zoe Kravitz,

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Selena Kyle, the cat one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know who Zoe Kravitz's parents are? Yes, So

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I remember when she was born. That's how old I am. Right,

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Lenny Kravitz and Lisa Bonet right from The Cosby Show, right,

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had a girl, Zoe Kravitz, and now she's freaking.

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Speaker 2: Catwoman right, which it's too long a connection, But Aquaman

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and Lisa Bonet just broke up, not too long. Very

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important to Matt Reeves that we not have anybody who

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can talk to fish. Please know So Zoe Kravitz, I'm

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watching a series right now called Big Little Liars. She

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plays a part of that one. She's really good.

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Speaker 3: She looks like a great cat one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So then we have as Edward Nashtin Slash

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the Riddler, Paul Dano. I'm just the truth about this.

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Paul Dano is one of them. I really enjoy his stuff.

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I hated There Will Be Blood. Everybody else loved it.

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I hated it, but there's no question he did a

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fantastic job with that movie. He was also in Little

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Miss Sunshine. He was in Swiss Army Man with Daniel Radcliffe,

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and he was in Love and Mercy where he played

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a young Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys. Also great.

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I'm super excited to see what he does with this

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serial killer style Riverler.

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Speaker 3: Ye any ill feelings about him not being mister e

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Nigma Edward Edward Enigma, No me either, me either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We have a guy who you're not going to

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recognize in the trailer, Oswald Cobblepot slash Penguin.

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Speaker 3: This is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: This blew my mind. When I saw his picture on IMD,

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I was like, who is he? He's he's what?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: The fat gangster looking guy that you see in the

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trailer is played by Colin Ferrell. What I know. That's nuts.

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Colin Ferrell.

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Speaker 3: Colin Ferrell who has been in He was in the

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remake of Friday Night, he was in the remake of

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Total Recall. He's been in a lot of stuff. He's

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a great looking dude. He based his character Oswald Cobblepot

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on Fredo Corleone from The Godfather. Oh wow, he's a gangster,

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you know, a member of the mob, but he's sort

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of kicked aside and unappreciated.

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Speaker 5: I'm smart, like everybody says, like Dumb's set.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic. That makes so much sense because you see

471
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the iceberg like that. I think it's called the Iceberg Lounge.

472
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That's his thing. That's a very Fredo from his Vegas stint.

473
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By the way, preview to what was coming up. We

474
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have got celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of the release of

475
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the Godfather. We have The Godfather one versus The Godfather

476
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:57,920
two versus Goodfellas coming up. Be sure and hit follow

477
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or subscribe on your podcast apps so that you do

478
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not miss those episodes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so we've got Jeffrey Wright playing James Gordon. Right,

480
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I don't know if he's Commissioner Gordon and not.

481
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Speaker 2: I think there's another commissioner that like that. The funeral

482
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I think is for the commissioner.

483
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Speaker 3: Okay. He plays Felix Leder from the Daniel Craig James Bond.

484
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Speaker 2: Movie The FBI Guy. Yeah, yeah, he's.

485
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Speaker 3: A guy loses all these chips at Cassina Royal.

486
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Speaker 2: Right, right, and what about the winnings.

487
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Speaker 3: Does it look like we need the money? Okay? And

488
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then you've got John Tuturo as Carmine Falcone.

489
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Speaker 2: I love, I love John Deturo. I don't care what

490
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he's in. It's awesome, all right.

491
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Speaker 3: I got something for you here, Okay. Peter sars Guard

492
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is playing Gil Coulson.

493
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Speaker 2: Okay, this is.

494
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Speaker 3: The district attorney somewhere prior to.

495
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Speaker 2: Harvey Dent right right.

496
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Speaker 3: He describes this character as untruthful and distasteful. It'd be

497
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interesting to see what kind of character this is. But

498
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:58,759
do you know who Peter sars Guard is married to

499
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:05,319
Maggie Gillenhall. Oh wow, she plays Rachel Dawes in The

500
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Dark Knight.

501
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Speaker 2: You've got as Alfred Penniworth. Andy Serkis, Andy Serkis.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting, and I know that they're trying to lean

503
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more that Alfred has this sort of military background. I

504
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think even maybe m I six or something.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's in a preview. He's got a scar on

506
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his forehead, which leads me to believe he's seen some action.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who else better to train Bruce Wayne than

508
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mister I six Alfred Penniworth.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I think that's fantastic.

510
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Speaker 3: We should say this is outside the DCEU, right, right,

511
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,000
the extended universe, right, So none of the Aquaman stuff,

512
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:45,079
none of the Henry Cavillman of Steel, all that stuff

513
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takes place somewhere else. I think they even said this

514
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is Earth two.

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Speaker 2: Right, this is this is a different universe kind of

516
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:56,319
like The Joker, right, which, if we can discuss for

517
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just a second. Yeah, yeah, I saw that movie before

518
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you did. Yes, I went and watched it with my

519
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wife and she did not like it. Yes, and I

520
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enjoyed it for what it was. It's it is a

521
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fantastic movie. It is not what you expect when you're

522
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going to go see a movie based on comic books.

523
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And I called you and I said, this is not

524
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your kind of movie. And you went and saw it anyway,

525
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and you called me up and said that was I.

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Speaker 3: Said that wasn't a strong enough but I say those

527
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words were not strong enough.

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Speaker 6: That was like beat. This movie was terrible. I said,

529
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I told you it was to do like that was

530
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not a strong enough warning. Yes, man, Yes, So yeah, if.

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Speaker 2: You if you take The Joker and make it a

532
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Tats and Driver, it's a different movie than than a

533
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superhero movie that you've been used to, for sure. I

534
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enjoyed it very much, but it's not for everybody, for sure.

535
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But here's what's interesting. The hospital. They don't call it

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the Arkham Asylum in The Joker they call it the

537
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Arkham State Hospital. Okay, why is that interesting? Because in

538
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the trailer for The Batman, there's a part where the

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Batman has come in to see the Riddler inside of

540
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what appears to be a jail cell. Right, the screen

541
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is rising so they can talk to each other through

542
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the glass and Batman, yes, lambs is an arm against

543
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,759
the glass. What are you doing? And all of this

544
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is the only thing that we hear the Riddler say.

545
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He says, I've been trying to reach you, meaning again.

546
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I think this goes back to him giving himself up.

547
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This is all part of his plan. But you don't

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see his face. What you do see is his uniform.

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You see his chest is that thing hands up. What's

550
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written on the uniform is not a jail. It is

551
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the Arkham State Hospital, just like at a Choker. Don't

552
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know if they're going to be in the same universe

553
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or not. I mean they be the styles are similar.

554
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I don't know.

555
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Speaker 3: Well, that could be interesting. And I know that that

556
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Robert Pattinson has signed a three picture deal to do

557
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three Batman movies. This is another trilogy. Yeah, and you

558
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know they're gonna want to bring Joker back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I really don't think Joaquin Phoenix is

560
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going to do another one. I mean, it's just not

561
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I don't think that's his type of thing to do.

562
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Let's just standalone, Jack Nicholson.

563
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Speaker 3: Let's go make the call.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic. This town needs an enema. So the writers

565
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that we have on this, we mentioned Matt Reeves is

566
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primarily responsible. He teamed up with Peter Craig to write this.

567
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:35,839
Peter Craig wrote the Hunger Games movies. He also wrote

568
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,000
The Town starring mister Bin Attack. Great movie. So I'm

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just I'm thinking through this right. So we've got some

570
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solid acting skills, We've obviously got a significant budget. We've

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got a reboot style tale that goes back to the

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dark grittiness. We have Matt Reeves, who gave us some

573
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:58,759
incredible Planet of the Apes movies, and we've got He's

574
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a great storyteller. Yes, he is a great storyteller. He

575
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:05,839
is completely devoted to one picture at a time. And

576
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when he agreed to do this, it was twenty seventeen,

577
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February of twenty seventeen. When did you tell me? Filming

578
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started on this January of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: January of twenty twenty, which means he went for three

580
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years developing the movie, only to have it stop abruptly

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in March.

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Speaker 3: We got to talk about that. So this, to me

583
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,119
is the major story about the filming of this is.

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Production started January twenty twenty in London. As we all know,

585
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in early March of twenty twenty, the world shut down

586
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because of the COVID nineteen pandemic. Well, at first, Warner

587
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Brothers was like, we're not shutting down. No, no, this

588
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is bull crap.

589
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Speaker 2: We got movies to make, we got.

590
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Speaker 3: A budget, We're making them freaking Batman, right.

591
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: Can you remember when the swine flu came out?

592
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Speaker 3: This is boil over in a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: This is bull crab, keep rolling. So when they realized no,

595
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this really is the real deal on March fourteenth, they

596
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shut down, but only for two weeks. That was the plan,

597
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all right, two weeks, Yeah, this all should be over

598
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,680
in two weeks, right, right, So two weeks later, obviously

599
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the world still very much under pandemic.

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Speaker 2: Yeh.

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Speaker 3: They did not resume filming until September of twenty twenty.

602
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That's a six month pause in the middle of a

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major movie, right.

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Speaker 2: And then when they started filming again. They can't just

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go back to doing things the way they'd done them

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before because the world changed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Robert Pattinsons says, like a military operation, right, they

608
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had earbuds in to receive direction. He said, there was

609
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like robotic remote control cameras. He said, he didn't even

610
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know if there was a crew. He's like standing out

611
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there by himself.

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Speaker 2: Guys, how was that somebody's the action? Sorry? Did you

613
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order a hamburger?

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Speaker 3: I have to go to the bath room.

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Speaker 2: That, by the way, was the note that was given

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to both he and Zoe Kravitz. Make sure you can

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go to the bathroom in this thing.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 2: So once again on the producer list, we've got Michael Uselin,

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who I think we're in good hands, right, and then

621
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the composer. Okay, are you ready for this?

622
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

623
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: The composer is Michael Giacchino. Every Pixar film that you love,

624
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,199
he composed the score for it. He did The Mission

625
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,719
Impossible movies that you love, He did Rogue one. This

626
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,920
guy is a master. I mean, if you just took Up. Yeah,

627
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,199
the music in Up is so utterly brilliant that it

628
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,519
blows me away. And then you compare it to The Incredibles,

629
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:53,320
which is completely different and still perfect for the movie.

630
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And I have downloaded the theme for The Batman and

631
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,800
I can't stop listening to it. We talked about the

632
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000
difference between Danny Elfman and his obvious theme that he's

633
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:08,360
got going on, and Hans Zimmer and the more repetitive

634
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:11,000
style that Hans Zimmer has, and how different they are.

635
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,719
I think that Michael g and Chin, who gives us both,

636
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He's got a theme that is very nicely intermixed with

637
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,920
these tension building Austinado's that it's so good. I can't

638
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,480
wait to see what they do with all of it.

639
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Speaker 3: He had me had incredible, So I'm just telling you yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then we've got the cinematographer. His name is Greg Frasier. Okay, yeah,

641
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I just found the other day, born the same day

642
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,000
that I was. It was a good day also. By

643
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,039
the way, he was four years old, n four years

644
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:44,559
old the day that bat Film's Inc. Was formed. Now,

645
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,039
he did the cinematography for Let Me In, and he

646
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:51,679
also did it for Zero Dark thirty, he did it

647
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,480
for Doune, and he did it for Rogue One. I

648
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:57,360
can remember seeing Rogue one and going how did they

649
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,000
make this look so much like the original t Religion. Yeah, yeah,

650
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I mean it was spot on and it had a

651
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,119
lot to do with his cinematography style. Right. So in

652
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:12,039
the trailer, there's this moment that it's it's basically darkness

653
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,320
and you see Batman charging forward and the only lights

654
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,480
that you can see are coming from these machine guns

655
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that are shooting him. And I watched that scene and

656
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,039
I'm like, this looks like the end of Rogue one

657
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,840
where Darth Vader is coming through the dark hallway and

658
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,719
it's only lit by that light by his lightsaber and

659
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,719
the gun shooting. And sure enough, the same guy film

660
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,880
both scenes. I'm geared up.

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Speaker 3: One of the coolest scenes filmed for any Star Wars movie.

662
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I will say Rogue one is my favorite

663
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Star Wars movie aside from the original trilogy. I might

664
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even put it above for Return of the Jedi. Wow,

665
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:50,159
it's I love Rogue One. I really really do.

666
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Speaker 3: I can go with you on that.

667
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,199
Speaker 2: So we have all of these ingredients for a successful movie.

668
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:01,639
I'm super excited to see where it goes. Me too.

669
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 3: I got some tidbits for you. Okay, So Matt Reeves

670
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,039
brought in Robert Pattinson. Yes, put him in the Val

671
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:11,039
Kilmer suit, but he said he knew he was right

672
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,559
when he put on the makeup, right, And actually in

673
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:17,400
the trailer you see Bruce Wayne without his cow on

674
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:21,880
and you have the black makeup on. And they really

675
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wanted to show, you know, in Batman Forever, when Michael

676
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,119
Keaton rips off his mask, he's not wearing any makeup.

677
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Speaker 2: Right, It's yeah, it's a meme.

678
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:33,639
Speaker 3: It's it's ridiculous, yeah, right, And so they wanted to

679
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show that sweaty, bruised makeup tough, gritty guy underneath.

680
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: Right. Well, and you know a little bit of the

681
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,840
Emo vibe, a little bit of the Curtin darker. Yeah.

682
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: Robert Pattinson took a selfie of himself in the batsuit

683
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,199
just in case he got fired the first week. He

684
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,679
was like, He's like, it was very much against the rules,

685
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,039
but I needed it just in case. Did you know

686
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:03,599
that Zoe Kravitz actually void the character of Catwoman in

687
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the Lego Batman movie?

688
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,039
Speaker 2: Wow?

689
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: How about that?

690
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: That is fantastic? Yes? Okay, so quick note on that.

691
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Last year. May of last year, Matt Reeves signed on

692
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to do an animated series of The Batman called Batman

693
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:22,920
Caped Crusader. I'm excited to see man.

694
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm all in.

695
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: His wife is Melinda Wang. She's a former animator, So.

696
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: No offense Melinda Wang. What that's from Shack? Sorry? Okay,

697
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,199
we mentioned that Colin Ferrell is playing the Penguin, right.

698
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:45,039
He actually has the distinction of playing a super villain

699
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:49,400
in both the DC and Marvel universe. Can you name

700
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,760
the super villain that he plays in the Marvel universe?

701
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,159
Speaker 2: Is it in the Eternals?

702
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: No?

703
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: I give up.

704
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,639
Speaker 3: He plays Bullseye in the ben A Flack Daredevil movie

705
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:04,320
from two thousand and three.

706
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: Gosh, I remember that novel.

707
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,119
Speaker 3: Wow. Jennifer Gardner who he married and now divorced?

708
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: Oh wow? Yeah, I had even forgotten the ben Affleck

709
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,000
was every the daar doll whoa.

710
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: And finally, this is the first solo Batman film to

711
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,320
be shot on digital. You know, we talked about COVID

712
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,360
nineteen interrupting this movie. This film was originally scheduled to

713
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,079
be released June twenty fifth, twenty twenty one, but due

714
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:30,400
to that production halt, they had to push it back

715
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,119
to October first of twenty twenty one. And now finally

716
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,280
we're getting it worldwide March fourth, twenty twenty two. This

717
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,159
should be a summer blockbuster. The movie has a run

718
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,159
time of two hours and fifty five minutes. Yeah, that's

719
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:48,159
a long time. I don't care.

720
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: And the cameras that they used are the Area Alexi

721
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,519
and the Air Alexa. Many using anamorphic lenses, which I'm

722
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,719
super excited that they did that because it gives it

723
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,920
such a great cinematic look. It's gonna be great.

724
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: This movie is nearly three hours long. Dark Knight was

725
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:06,880
two and a half hours. Man eighty nine was over

726
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,760
two hours. The Godfather, Godfather Too, and Goodfellows are all

727
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,039
three hour movies.

728
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,119
Speaker 2: Right, so at least in The Godfather you get an intermission.

729
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,880
I don't know that. I'm gonna say we're gonna be

730
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,239
seeing it the night that it comes out. We're not

731
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,360
gonna have windogo pee dot com. We won't know. We'll

732
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,119
have to let you know.

733
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: We'll do our best.

734
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, just don't go right, I'm gonna I'm gonna

735
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,480
start dehydrating like early that morning.

736
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 3: No coke for you.

737
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 2: Let's now go to the movie theater and see the movie.

738
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,039
Speaker 3: I'm ready, let's go.

739
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:53,599
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll get the pop up. Holy crap, go see

740
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:54,039
that movie.

741
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 3: Wow, we are back from watching the movie. This is

742
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,119
just minutes ago that we're back in the car.

743
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:05,119
Speaker 2: Now, okay, guys, we've seen the movie. We are going

744
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:09,159
to have spoilers, so be prepared for those this point forward.

745
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:12,039
Speaker 3: If you don't want to know anything else, don't listen.

746
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, push pause, go see the movie, and then come

747
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,320
back and listen. So tell me your thoughts. What do

748
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,480
you think? Good?

749
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: Bad?

750
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: What do you think?

751
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:27,199
Speaker 3: I thought it was fantastic. I thought it was fantastic, fantastic, fantastic.

752
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: Okay, So just off the top of your head, which

753
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,000
your best best part about me?

754
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,159
Speaker 3: So? I love the first the riddles at the beginning,

755
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,599
like the first hour or so, while they're solving the

756
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:44,159
mystery and he's plucking important people out of Gotham and

757
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:47,599
you know, endangering them and they're having to try to

758
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:50,440
track him down, and all the riddles and all that

759
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,679
stuff was awesome. I do think it lulled a little

760
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:56,480
bit in the middle. So it's it started with a

761
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,159
bang right off the bat. We don't we're not fooling

762
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,159
around with any of the stupid Bruce Wayne backstory. We're

763
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:05,760
not fooling around with any of the penguin or any

764
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,239
of that backstory. We're just dropped right in the middle

765
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,760
of a mystery that's beginning, and they expect you to

766
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,599
already understand who some of these characters are, which we do.

767
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:19,960
I mean, this is you know, American folklore, these characters,

768
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,639
and it starts right off, and man, you're following these

769
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:27,480
clues and there's this crazy Riddler character who's like John

770
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:31,199
Doe from Seven. I thought it was very much like Seven,

771
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,320
very much. I thought there was a you know, zodiac,

772
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,960
and I thought there was even a little bit of

773
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,719
the movie Saw if you've ever seen.

774
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:38,559
Speaker 2: Saw a little bit.

775
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, very very dark. My little my thirteen year

776
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,440
old daughter wants to watch this, and I thought, well,

777
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,119
it's PG thirteen. I'm not really comfortable with her watching

778
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:50,599
this one.

779
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: It is. It is definitely pushing that edge of the thirteen.

780
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,760
I almost wish they would have gone ahead and just

781
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,199
done an R version and just pushed it a little

782
00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:04,800
bit more. But this is definitely this is a strong movie.

783
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,199
I was surprised at some of the strength of some

784
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,559
of the scenes. Here's what Okay, So number one for me,

785
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,920
Number one is the music. I knew I was gonna

786
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,320
love it, and I was. It exceeded my expectations. Did

787
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:24,599
a perfect job with the music. Number two. I liked

788
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:30,000
the kind of learning his way Batman. He doesn't really

789
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,519
know it yet. We talked about how this is just

790
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:34,679
year two and he makes mistakes, and there's not a

791
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:37,480
ton of mistakes, but when we had them, they were good.

792
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:41,920
They were a solid moment in that it's really the

793
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,519
tone is so dark, and you do have this seventies five.

794
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:49,159
I was watching this. It doesn't take place in the seventies.

795
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:52,480
I mean, we got flash drives and cell phones and all.

796
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:57,000
I mean, it's obviously a now type of universe. But

797
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:00,320
the cars that are driving around are for the most part,

798
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,960
kind of those seventies style taxis and stuff like that.

799
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,119
Until you get to the chase scene. What do you

800
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:06,760
think of the chasing?

801
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: The chase scene was very born identity. It was gritty

802
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:13,039
and you felt the impact of it and the throttle

803
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:17,199
and I really felt like I was inside the chase scene.

804
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: So this Bruce Wayne is a gearhead. You catch a

805
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,480
glimpse of his engine a few times as it's panning

806
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:29,119
around in the bat cave, and then it comes to

807
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:32,320
life in the Batmobile, and it's awesome.

808
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: I wasn't as big a fan as of the batmobile.

809
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it was cool.

810
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 3: It was a muscle car. Yeah, I'm still a tumbler

811
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:39,960
guy all the way.

812
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,159
Speaker 2: So you had talked about before in the earlier part

813
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:45,440
of this episode that you were excited about the idea

814
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,079
that it was going to be a detective story that

815
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:50,599
was more detective story, and it was definitely that. In fact,

816
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:54,719
it was a throwback to the Mickey Splaine like here

817
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,800
I am in this ragged city, this is my life.

818
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,159
I mean, it has him narrating just like that character.

819
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,360
I mean it's like, you know, Raymond Chandler or Nashal

820
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,639
Hammett or something like that. I mean it's it is

821
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,679
the from the perspective of the detective and it's got

822
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,239
his narration on there. And I thought it was brilliantly done.

823
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:21,199
Opening scene. Oh wow, so good, so good. You everybody

824
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,559
knows that you've got I mean from the trailer, we

825
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:27,119
know that we've got the death of the Mayor and

826
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,920
that that scene was perfect. It's perfect.

827
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: So it was scary, right, Yeah, Like it was legit

828
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:43,639
because there's he's got that crazy, sadistic looking mask on,

829
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,199
and it's the mayor and he's walking around his house

830
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,800
and he's he's watching TV and you see this flash

831
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,920
and there's a person in the room with him and

832
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,119
it's dark and we know it and he doesn't. And

833
00:45:56,159 --> 00:45:58,239
it's that tense Alfred Hitchcock type of.

834
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 2: Thing, absolutely, and they build it. They show you him,

835
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,639
and then you wait and you wait and you wait,

836
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,000
and you think maybe nothing's going to happen. And it's

837
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,079
at that moment that you think nothing's going to happen

838
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:14,039
that he explodes into action with a scream, and it's.

839
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:18,679
Speaker 3: Very violent, like very violent right off the bat Yeah.

840
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: So those things all, you know, the detective and the

841
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,880
ciphers that we like from seven that we talked about,

842
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,599
those come into play and build really nicely for the

843
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:31,960
first couple of acts. But if I got to say

844
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:35,280
anything bad about the movie, it's the same bad thing

845
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,360
that we said about Batman eighty nine and The Dark Knight.

846
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,119
The third act doesn't finish off quite as strong the

847
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:47,800
climax of the movie. And this is I mean, this

848
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,039
is big spoiler here, everybody. I almost don't want to

849
00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:53,239
say this. I want to say this. I'm not going

850
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,199
to give you all the details. Yeah, but the big

851
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,440
climax of the movie is when you think, think that

852
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:06,800
the Riddler knows who Batman is, and then you realize

853
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,360
that it is kind of like the Jack Nicholson you

854
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,679
made Me kind of story, and it's it flips it

855
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,079
on its head and it's a surprise.

856
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,599
Speaker 3: The verb, the way he words it, I'm like, oh no,

857
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:25,400
he's exposed. And then, without giving too much away, you

858
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:27,239
realize he doesn't know.

859
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: Excellent writing, very very well done. I love the fight scenes.

860
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,480
The fight scenes were on point. We didn't have we

861
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:42,239
didn't have a batman who knew you know, Brazilian jiu jitsu.

862
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:44,679
We had a batman who threw some punches and got

863
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,000
hit himself and got thrown around and hit you until

864
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:48,679
you stop moving.

865
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: Here's what I thought. You know the punch sound that

866
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,880
you get from Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Star, Yeah,

867
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:59,719
you know that full on sound. So every punch that

868
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,639
bat Man throws it you feel it like a compression

869
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:03,239
in your chest.

870
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,519
Speaker 2: Absolutely so.

871
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: I thought Robert Pattinson did a great job. He was

872
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:09,960
very dark. I thought he was very Kurt Cobain. You know,

873
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,400
we talked about he's not playboy rich out there, He's

874
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,960
a reclusive rock star Kurt Cobain.

875
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: Right. There is a point that the Riddler says to him,

876
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,280
your your true self when you have the mask on,

877
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,519
and I think that was absolutely true for the movie.

878
00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:31,119
Like you, you were excited when he was dressed as

879
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:34,519
the bat when he was Bruce Wayne, he felt like

880
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:36,760
he was out of place. He felt you know, everybody's

881
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,159
been saying, oh, he's the emo Bruce Wayne. Well, yeah,

882
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:42,000
he felt like a guy who was displaced, which you

883
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,840
can say emo or you could say, you know, NEI Western.

884
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,960
Maybe he's the cowboy. And there's a there. There is

885
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,000
a point that you get kind of a cowboy style

886
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:53,800
music and the red flames in the back as it's

887
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,199
coming on, and I'm like, oh, this is a very

888
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,400
nice touch on that kind of Western style.

889
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:04,199
Speaker 3: Gun's okay, let's discuss problems. Do you have any problems

890
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:04,480
with this?

891
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: Okay? So problem number one that I mentioned is the

892
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,119
the third act, once you get past that very impactful

893
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:15,119
scene between the Riddler and the Batman and you see

894
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:20,719
his plan, it's not as clean and clear as I

895
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,400
wanted it to be.

896
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I were talking in the actually in

897
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,039
the bathroom after the game, after the movie and the

898
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:33,360
Big the Big Riddler last act, like he's in custody,

899
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,960
but he's got one more trick up his sleeve, right,

900
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:44,159
John Doe's got the upper hand. Yeah, it's a fizzle.

901
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 2: At it's a little bit of a fizzle. It is

902
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,360
not as big as it could have been. And I'm

903
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,159
gonna say this. You know, when I walked out of

904
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,000
the Dark Night after seeing in the movies, I wasn't like,

905
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:55,760
this is the perfect movie. I was like, Okay, that

906
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:00,239
was good, and I'm a little confused. Yeah, And it

907
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,599
took watching it a few times. And Quentin Tarantino has

908
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:05,960
said as much about Christopher nolan movies. You know, when

909
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,079
they asked him about Tenant and he's they're like, did

910
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:09,920
you like that one? He's like, tell you truth, I

911
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,440
don't think I've seen it enough times yet to know. Yeah,

912
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:14,840
I'm gonna have to see this movie again, probably two

913
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,239
or three more times, and maybe once I've seen it

914
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,920
two or three more times, it's going to fit. The

915
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,400
pieces of the puzzle are going to fit together for me.

916
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:24,000
I can tell you that on first watch, Act one

917
00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:25,800
and Act two solid as rock.

918
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 3: I thought this movie was a fantastic movie, where parts

919
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,000
of Act three weren't executed as well as I was hoping.

920
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,800
But it's the best movie I've seen in the theater

921
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:44,440
in years, years, years and years, absolutely and maybe decades.

922
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so I know we're talking about things that we

923
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,199
didn't like. Yeah. The other thing they blind me about.

924
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,159
Every twenty to twenty five minutes, they will shine a

925
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,840
light right in your freaking fay. I'm like, okay, why

926
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,559
why do you keep doing that? It's like light, It's

927
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:04,480
like a flashlight, It's like a torch. I mean, like, ah,

928
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,000
So that was That's my one those two things that

929
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:11,280
it wasn't a strong finish at the end. Now I'm

930
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,280
going to say this. I started thinking about this is

931
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,840
I told you I needed to be here, Like, are

932
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,000
you going to tell me what you thought? Like, I

933
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,440
gotta kind of gather, I gotta I gotta process this.

934
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,599
So spoiler alert, the realization that he makes at the

935
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:30,239
end is that he can't be vengeance. He has to

936
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:37,239
be hope. And that is a strong biblical connection because

937
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:42,440
Old Testament God is this wrathful God, and Jesus is

938
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:48,599
this hope and what you see. Once he realizes that

939
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,039
his persona of vengeance is having an ill effect on

940
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,840
the rest of the Gotham, he switches and suddenly he

941
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,000
is this very impressive scene where he is leading his

942
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:07,199
people out. They do this great crane shot and it's

943
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,000
him with a light leading them through the water, and

944
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:14,400
the water itself is very much a flood. It's very

945
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,800
much that we're going to wash away the filth of

946
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,239
the city. The problem that I had with it is

947
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,000
the Riddler seemed so focused for Act one and two

948
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,000
on the corrupt officials, and then an Act three it

949
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:31,280
ended up, well, we're just going to wash away everybody.

950
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,480
That was kind of an odd take. We're going to

951
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:38,559
inconvenience everyone well, and I think the intention was to,

952
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:41,360
you know, flood them into a spot and then I

953
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,239
don't won't give away the end, but there are followers

954
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:50,280
who are there. But yeah, it didn't where I understand

955
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,280
the allegory that they were trying to give. I don't

956
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,079
think it was as strong as it could have been.

957
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,519
But I've only seen it once, right, I've only seen

958
00:52:57,519 --> 00:52:57,840
it once.

959
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,679
Speaker 3: Let's talk about strengths.

960
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:04,079
Speaker 2: Selena Kyle, she best catwoman of all time.

961
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,639
Speaker 3: Wow, coming strong.

962
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: I was spiked football every day, all day long. Best

963
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:15,199
catwoman of all time. She as far as that they have.

964
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,440
You know, they've got this love interest to me, she delivered.

965
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:22,559
Robert Pattinson didn't quite. I didn't feel like he had

966
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:25,320
the chemistry for her that she had for him. Like

967
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,639
it felt like if like I believed her fascination with

968
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,119
him and his I didn't buy so much.

969
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought she was fantastic. I thought it was real. Right.

970
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,800
They alluded to the fact that maybe she's a prostituted

971
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,320
or that she'd worked in this kind of underbelly club

972
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,440
doing sort of sortid things.

973
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,119
Speaker 2: Very Batman Year one, and she even looks like Selena

974
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:50,440
Kyle and Batman Year one.

975
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:55,559
Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely okay. Penguin Penguin was the best penguin of

976
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:56,079
all time.

977
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: Best penguin of all time, but by far, far and

978
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:03,559
away best villain in the movie in my opinion. Oh wait, wait,

979
00:54:03,559 --> 00:54:07,079
wait wait, Riddler's great. Riddler is great.

980
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 3: Riddler was fantastic.

981
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: Falcone stole every scene that he was in. John Tuturo

982
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:14,639
stole every scene that he was in.

983
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:15,559
Speaker 3: That was awesome.

984
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:16,519
Speaker 2: He really really was.

985
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, what about Gordon.

986
00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: I loved Gordon. Yeah, I loved it, and he provided

987
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:28,360
some comedy in the movie that I like. I say,

988
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,840
every movie needs to have some laughs, and I laughed

989
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,400
at least three or four times in this movie out loud.

990
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: The laughs were rare.

991
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,559
Speaker 2: The laughs were rare, and I think I may have

992
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:43,039
laughed inappropriately the couple, but they were there. They were

993
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,599
there enough for such a dark, dark movie.

994
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:49,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one scene that I almost laughed inappropriately.

995
00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:54,440
It's when the penguin like flips his car like twenty times.

996
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so you and I know I just had a

997
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,719
wreck like three days ago. That was a little triggery

998
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,400
for me. Was like, oh, it's made me a little uncomfortable. Okay, sorry,

999
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,159
go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, So he flips his car.

1000
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:11,079
Speaker 3: You actually see the rolling of the car from inside

1001
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:14,280
the car. You experienced the role. There's stuff going everywhere,

1002
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,719
and then you see these boots. It's very cowboy. He's

1003
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,960
walking up in a clump, clump, clump, and I expected

1004
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:23,880
him to bend over and be like, are you okay,

1005
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,639
But instead of you know, grabs him and starts beating

1006
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:29,039
him up.

1007
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: You know.

1008
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:35,119
Speaker 3: So, yeah, penguin was fantastic. Gordon was fantastic. I thought

1009
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:38,239
Robert Pattinson as Batman it was a different take on

1010
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,199
Batman and Bruce Wayne, but I'm fully invested. I was

1011
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:46,920
very very much a fan. And then The Riddler was

1012
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:52,840
amazing scary. Uh he provided a real menace yeah, verse seven.

1013
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,679
Speaker 2: Right, And Paul Dano just as a human being, has

1014
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,719
a demented look about him. I mean no offense to

1015
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,480
the it's a gift that he has that he can

1016
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:06,320
play those kind of warped characters. But you don't see

1017
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,719
him for three quarters of the movie. You don't see

1018
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:10,159
his face.

1019
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: No, But those videos and stuff that he posted were

1020
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,559
super scary.

1021
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:20,079
Speaker 2: Yes, And there was a scene. There was a scene

1022
00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:24,039
where he had two IDs and they said which one

1023
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:26,920
of these are you? And he said, you tell me,

1024
00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:29,119
And I felt like there was more of a story there.

1025
00:56:29,159 --> 00:56:32,719
And a little bit later on it showed his picture

1026
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,360
without the mask on next to his picture with the

1027
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,400
mask on. I was expecting there to be some sort

1028
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,880
of twin thing that was going to happen, which apparent.

1029
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,639
I mean, obviously it didn't happen, unless that's a plan

1030
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,840
for a later movie or something like that. I'm not sure.

1031
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,159
Speaker 3: Okay, one more thing I want to bring up before

1032
00:56:50,199 --> 00:56:54,760
we finish up. Okay, the last scene in Arkham Asylum. Yeah,

1033
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,719
there's a conversation that happens between the Riddler and somebody

1034
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,000
and somebody.

1035
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: Another inmate in the Arkham State Hospital. Okay, that's Arkham

1036
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:09,280
State Hospital. And when when I was looking at him,

1037
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,800
he kind of looked like his face was messed up,

1038
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,320
So I'm like, is this two face? But then he

1039
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,719
talked about being a clown, so I'm like, is this joker?

1040
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,639
And then he says, riddle me this, and he's like,

1041
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,199
what's more valuable the for you or you have? And

1042
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,920
the Riddler answers friends and so he's talking to the

1043
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,599
Riddler about a comeback story, and so maybe that's what's

1044
00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:38,119
in store, but we don't know exactly who this guy is.

1045
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,639
But then they both start to laugh together and it's

1046
00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:44,719
this maniacal, weird laugh. Who do you think it is?

1047
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:48,239
Speaker 3: It's got to be. They're clearly putting the Joker out there,

1048
00:57:48,679 --> 00:57:52,079
so yeah, okay, or at least they're throwing us off

1049
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:52,440
the trail.

1050
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:52,719
Speaker 2: That is.

1051
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: I think it's the Joker.

1052
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: But it's not a joker we've seen before. It's definitely

1053
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,480
not what Keene Phoenix, it's definitely not Jared Leto.

1054
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: I'm okay with both that. That's fine with me.

1055
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:13,199
Speaker 2: That's good stuff. Let's see. Is there anything else that

1056
00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:16,960
we need to talk about this? Okay? Yeah, we so

1057
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:19,639
we do. We have to do this, all right? How's

1058
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:21,599
it going to rank? Okay, but let's do it like

1059
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:27,199
we did on our on our episodes. Okay, Keaton, Bail, Pattinson,

1060
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,039
what do you ring?

1061
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,199
Speaker 3: I would Okay, I just watched it just a few

1062
00:58:33,239 --> 00:58:35,719
minutes ago, so it's still fresh in my brain. But

1063
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,360
I'm going Keaton, Pattinson, Bail Nice Batman.

1064
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: Nice so so number one, Keaton number two, Pattinson, Yeah,

1065
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:51,559
and Christian Bale finishing third. Yes, Okay, all right, I agree, Okay,

1066
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:54,280
I'm right, I'm I'm right there. Okay, Yeah, I think

1067
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,360
that's exactly Yeah. I think you're spot on on that one.

1068
00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

1069
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,519
Speaker 2: Okay, So there is no joker in this one, right,

1070
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:06,159
We've got a slew of good characters. I don't know

1071
00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:08,679
that we can really compare any of our bad guys

1072
00:59:08,679 --> 00:59:11,559
in this movie to either one of those jokers, though, No,

1073
00:59:11,679 --> 00:59:14,880
I don't think any of them reach either Jack Nicholson

1074
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:16,559
or Heath Ledger level.

1075
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,679
Speaker 3: He's more of a behind the scenes and kind of

1076
00:59:21,679 --> 00:59:24,440
off screen scary.

1077
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: Both of those actors had the opportunity to build a

1078
00:59:27,519 --> 00:59:29,920
real character that we got to see a lot of.

1079
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:33,039
This is an entirely different story. This was somebody in

1080
00:59:33,079 --> 00:59:36,440
the shadows and almost all circumstances. So it's not the same.

1081
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,639
It's not fair to compare them, but it's important to

1082
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:41,920
note that we don't have one of those standout villains

1083
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,400
in this one. We've got a different type of villain altogether,

1084
00:59:44,519 --> 00:59:50,519
a great villain, John, a genuinely scary villain. Yeah, it's you.

1085
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:52,760
You don't look at them and laugh. You you look

1086
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,679
at them and go, my word, what could happen to

1087
00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:02,679
some twisted mind? Right? Okay, I'm still saying Number one

1088
01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:08,920
is the Keaton Mobile. Yeah, but that Muscle care Car

1089
01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:11,800
was awesome. I loved the Muscle Car. I love the

1090
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,280
Muscle Car, Bars through the Flames. I still am picking it.

1091
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:21,159
I'm picking it above the Humby version of the Batmobile, Okay,

1092
01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:22,800
which you would put at number one?

1093
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,679
Speaker 3: Yes, you're crazy, Yeah, Tumbler one eighty nine, Batmobile two,

1094
01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:31,519
Muscle Car three. I don't it really didn't do anything.

1095
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:35,679
Especially had a like a turbo charged engine, but it

1096
01:00:35,719 --> 01:00:39,519
didn't didn't have any kind of special machine guns or

1097
01:00:39,639 --> 01:00:40,760
oil slicks.

1098
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,199
Speaker 2: Or smoke screen or year two.

1099
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,079
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm just I mean.

1100
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:47,519
Speaker 2: And there's something interesting too, like the batsuit, Like you

1101
01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:50,480
could see the threads where he had woven it together.

1102
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:56,159
It looks like leather and and cloth. It does not

1103
01:00:56,239 --> 01:00:59,599
look like any of the modern batsuits that we've seen

1104
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:06,519
from Keaton on. This is as handmade a batsuit as

1105
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:09,920
we've seen since the sixty six Batman without him West.

1106
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,639
Speaker 3: I loved how the bat emblem on his chest popped

1107
01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:14,440
out and became a knife for a batter ring.

1108
01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:17,639
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was really cool. Yeah, I really liked

1109
01:01:17,639 --> 01:01:20,320
the batsuit. What do you think batsuitise number one?

1110
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:21,199
Speaker 3: This is the best one.

1111
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: This is the best batsuit you've seen. I agree, Yeah,

1112
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,119
I mean, it kept catching my eye. Was not and

1113
01:01:26,159 --> 01:01:28,840
it wasn't like I was thinking. It wasn't like it

1114
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,559
was a distraction. It was just like, this is perfect.

1115
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:32,679
This is so realistic.

1116
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,719
Speaker 3: Hey, can I say one thing too? He took all

1117
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:40,159
kinds of bullets to the chest that he was protected from.

1118
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:42,920
But at the very end a guy put a shotgun

1119
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,000
to his face.

1120
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: And then answered the question, right.

1121
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,639
Speaker 3: Dumb and dumb question. What if he's shut in the face.

1122
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, what if he shot me in the face.

1123
01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 3: And he was clearly in danger, he was going to

1124
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,719
get he was going to die.

1125
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: That was a die, ye, yeah, and then he gets saved. Yep. Okay,

1126
01:01:57,519 --> 01:01:59,920
So movies movie to movie to movie.

1127
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 3: Okay, here's how I rank them right this second. I

1128
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:10,719
hope I'm not overreacting. The Batman number one, Oh wow,

1129
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,880
The Dark Knight number two, Batman eighty nine, number.

1130
01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:16,639
Speaker 2: Three, Wow Wow.

1131
01:02:17,199 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 3: It was fantastic.

1132
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: It blew my doors off, it did. I mean, here's

1133
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,880
the thing we knew walking into this that Rotten Tomatoes

1134
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,039
had said, this is a near perfect movie. We have

1135
01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:31,679
built this up in our minds because we've been doing

1136
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:34,840
this research and we've been fascinated with the developments that

1137
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,960
we've seen, and this movie it delivered.

1138
01:02:38,679 --> 01:02:42,199
Speaker 3: It delivered. Here's what I think. I think you take

1139
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,079
all the great parts of The Dark Knight, and they

1140
01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:49,719
were amazing, right, and you trim all the stuff, all

1141
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,280
the story building, and all the Alfred stuff and all

1142
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,679
the extra and you cut all that crap out and

1143
01:02:55,719 --> 01:02:59,719
it's just full throttle story. I think this takes place

1144
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,159
in one week. Yeah, and it's just straight action, straight involvement,

1145
01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:09,559
straight detective straight, it's all Batman. There's very little Bruce Wayne,

1146
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,440
so it doesn't really slow down that much, right, and

1147
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:17,320
so it's just like you love chocolate cake. Here it is,

1148
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,400
you know, it's just full on, all Batman, all the

1149
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,400
best stuff, the Dark Knight for three hours.

1150
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think?

1151
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm still no, no.

1152
01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:32,239
Speaker 2: No, no, I totally you're messing with my messing with

1153
01:03:32,239 --> 01:03:34,880
my thoughts here. I am not ready to take The

1154
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,320
Dark Night out of the number one position. And it

1155
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:43,400
comes down to simply Heath Ledger's performance that I'm not

1156
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,920
ready to move it out of that position yet. The

1157
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:51,559
story on this one, it's better than the other two. Wow,

1158
01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:55,320
it's a store. The story for the Batman is that

1159
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,159
detective story that. I mean. They kept me on the

1160
01:03:59,199 --> 01:04:01,800
edge of my seat for three solid hours. I didn't

1161
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want it to be over. I didn't want to get

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on with it. I mean a lot of people talk

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about this being too long. I disagree. This kept me

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engaged for three hours, solid piece of work. So storyline wise,

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I would put it at number one, but without heath

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led you there, I don't know. I just can't. I

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can't let The Dark Knight slip from the number one

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spot yet. Let me watch this one as many times

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as I've seen The Dark Knight, and maybe it will.

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But for right now, Dark Knight for me still holds

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the number one spot. This is definitely a very close

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number two, and Batman eighty nine is at number three

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for me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, just a couple of odds and ends. Would you

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allow a child under thirteen to see this movie?

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Speaker 2: It depends on the kid. I would let Caleb watch

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this movie. I would not let Avery watch this movie.

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I would let my twelve year old, you know, guy

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who likes to pretend to stab people. I'd let him

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go watch this. But not my little girl. Although she's

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pretty good about scary movies too, I don't know he

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might be scared by this one. Honestly, it's not one

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that you should take little kids too.

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Speaker 3: It's on the edge. Yeah, it's a push in the

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envelope for the.

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Speaker 2: R it is. It is is if you took the

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movie seven and made it a PG thirteen rating, so

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you got to take out some of the super graphic,

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explicit stuff. There's an F bomb in there.

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Speaker 3: And there there's one f bomb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one fbom in the movie, as you typically

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get with a PG thirteen movie, and the initial attack

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and resulting injury. It's graphic, and so that one's a

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little rough. That's solid rough. I wouldn't take a under

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twelve year old to see this movie. Okay.

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Speaker 3: My other question to you is when do you go pee?

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Speaker 2: I didn't go pee, and there is not a spot

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as far as I could tell.

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Speaker 3: The only spot that I could say is when Batman

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and Catwoman are kind of romance in it on top

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of the building. But that's an important part of the movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: That's when I would go pee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would say, yeah, wait until after

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the flood and then you can go pee.

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Speaker 3: You might as well stick around. And there is a

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post credit.

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Speaker 2: Scene, uh sort of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a very good one.

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Speaker 2: No, although I want to go back and see what

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it was.

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Speaker 3: I want to be able to pause it and find

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out what exactly it says.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, and there's another thing. Is this a movie

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that is as good streaming as it is in the theater?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not. You got to see this in theater.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely have to see it in the theater. Go if

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you can watch it in imax, which is what we did.

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Did watch it in imax. If you can't do that,

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go watch it in the regular theater. But please don't

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sit in your living room and push pause and go

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get popped while this movie's playing. Sit down and sew

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this movie and like the movies you used to watch

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when you were a teenager.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, highest recommend for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure, guys, it has been great

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to go on this journey with you. Don't forget to

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hit that follow button. It's the three little dots up

1229
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,440
there on your app. Just hit those things and hit follow.

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That way you can catch our next episode where we

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are tackling another set of mammoth movies, The Godfather, The

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Godfather Part two, and Goodfellas. Be sure come back and

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see us for that one. Jason's been a fun ride, man.

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I'm really glad I got to see this with you.

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Speaker 3: Awesome night, awesome night, Thanks Mary. And for now here

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is something in the way now that's bad.