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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>If we launched our fastest, like absolutely most advanced chemical

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<v Speaker 2>rocket today and we aimed it straight at the nearest star.

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<v Speaker 3>System, Alpha Centauri.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Alpha Centauri, it wouldn't actually arrive for another seventy

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<v Speaker 2>thousand years, which is just.

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<v Speaker 3>An incomprehensible amount of time for a human mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It's essentially an eternity. So if we want to

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<v Speaker 2>actually survive the cosmos, or you know, even just explore

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<v Speaker 2>our immediate stellar neighborhood within a single human lifespan, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to completely stop relying on controlled explosion.

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<v Speaker 3>We really do. Chemical rockets are a dead end for

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<v Speaker 3>interstellar travel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that means we have to fundamentally rethink how

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<v Speaker 2>mass moves through a vacuum, which invariably forces us to

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<v Speaker 2>look at beamed energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Propulsion, specifically laser driven light sales.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But pushing a macro scale object to relativistic speeds

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<v Speaker 2>with photons, I mean, it isn't just a matter of

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<v Speaker 2>building a bigger laser, No.

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<v Speaker 3>Not at all. It's so much more complicated than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the universe actually has built in aerodynamic limits even

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<v Speaker 2>in a complete vacuum. So we are going to explore

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<v Speaker 2>the granular you know, the quantum level mechanics of photon momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>And really fascinating newly mapped threshold.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this newly mapped threshold at exactly seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the speed of light, where the fundamental laws of

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<v Speaker 2>relativistic physics just they mutate, They absolutely do.

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<v Speaker 3>They turn our own propulsion systems into an active drag force.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is wild. But before we get to that wall,

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<v Speaker 2>we should probably talk about why we're abandoning rockets in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, the whole problem with chemical propulsion is rooted

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<v Speaker 3>in the Siolkowsky rocket equation. It's basically an exponential trap.

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<v Speaker 2>An exponential trap, yeah, yeah, because you have to carry

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<v Speaker 2>the fuel exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You carry mass to produce thrust, right, but then you

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<v Speaker 3>need more thrust to move that extra mass you're carrying it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like packing for a road trip, but the extra

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<v Speaker 2>suitcases require you to tow a full other car just

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<v Speaker 2>to carry the gas for the extra suitcases.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great way to put it. And when you

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<v Speaker 3>run the numbers to reach even ten percent of the

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<v Speaker 3>speed of light using conventional chemical propellants, the mass of

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<v Speaker 3>the fuel required would actually exceed the mass of the

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<v Speaker 3>observable universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, literally the entire universe.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, the map just completely breaks down. Is physically impossible. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if we scale up to say theoretical fusion

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<v Speaker 3>drives or you know, antimatter.

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<v Speaker 2>Engines, which we don't even have yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But even if we did, you are still carrying

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<v Speaker 3>the fuel. You are still suffering that logarithmic penalty of

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<v Speaker 3>pushing the mass of the thing that's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>pushing you.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're just stuck in that trap exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So the only physical loophole we have left really is

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<v Speaker 3>decoupling the engine from the spacecraft, entirely decoupling it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just you leave the engine behind.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you leave the heavy propulsion source, the mass of

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<v Speaker 3>power plant, and the energy emitter anchored safely in our

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<v Speaker 3>fullar system, and you just transmit the momentum across the void.

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<v Speaker 2>Which brings us to radiation pressure. And I think the

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<v Speaker 2>concept of the solar sale is it's generally pretty well

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<v Speaker 2>understood by most people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a popular sci fi concept.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, This idea of a massive, ultra thin sheet catching sunlight,

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like a galleon catching the trade winds on

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a beautiful image, but sunlight disperses way too quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of the inverse square law.

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<v Speaker 3>Right precisely, the inver square law dictates that by the

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<v Speaker 3>time a solar sail reaches say, Jupiter, the Sun's actual

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<v Speaker 3>pushing force is just a tiny, tiny fraction of what

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<v Speaker 3>it was when it was at Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's basically useless for getting to another star completely.

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<v Speaker 3>For true interstellar transit, you can't just rely on ambient sunlight.

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<v Speaker 3>You need a highly colimated beam like a laser, like

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<v Speaker 3>a massive array of lasers, have a phased array, perhaps spanning,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, hundreds of kilometers across the lunar surface.

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<v Speaker 2>Just firing a tightly focused beam of Terrawak class continuous

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<v Speaker 2>light directly at a sale.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and the spacecraft itself carries zero fuel none at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's entirely just payload and a reflective surface, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And the physics of this relies on the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>while photons possess zero rest mass, they do actually carry momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>Which always trips people up. No mass, but they have momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>It's counterintuitive, I know, But their momentum is dictated by

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<v Speaker 3>their energy divided by the speed of light. So when

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<v Speaker 3>a photon interacts with the atomic lattice of a reflective sail,

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<v Speaker 3>it actually transfers that momentum. Is it a physical push, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it is an infinitesimally small kick, of course. But in

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<v Speaker 3>the near perfect vacuum of deep space, devoid of any

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<v Speaker 3>real aerodynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>Friction, you can just accumulate that acceleration continuously.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly if you maintain that multi taro watt laser focus

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<v Speaker 3>for days or months or even years, the acceleration compounds

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<v Speaker 3>this sale goes from a total standstill to a significant

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<v Speaker 3>fraction of light speed.

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<v Speaker 2>But the actual mechanical interaction there, like the exact moment

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<v Speaker 2>the photon strikes the sail material, is far more complex

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<v Speaker 2>than just the simple elastic collision.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't well massively more complex. It's not just a billiard

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<v Speaker 3>ball hitting another earlier ball. Physicists Chaoshen and Jazzy Lee

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<v Speaker 3>at the Harbin Institute of Technology recently deconstructed this whole interaction, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and they broke the thrust down into three distinct measurable

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<v Speaker 3>forces that are actually all occurring simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, looking at shennon LA's breakdown of this, I was

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<v Speaker 2>really struck by how they split up those thrust vectors,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, you start with just the baseline force, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the incident light.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, the raw arrival of the folkus Kay.

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<v Speaker 2>The photon arrives from the laser array, it strikes the

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<v Speaker 2>atoms of the saale material, and it just transfers its

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<v Speaker 2>initial forward momentum like a kinetic slab.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the most straightforward part of the physics, the wave

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<v Speaker 3>packet just hitting the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>But the real efficiency, the thing that actually acts as

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<v Speaker 2>a multiplier effect, comes from the second force, which is

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<v Speaker 2>specular reflection.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the golden ticket right there, specular reflection.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if the material acts as a perfect mirror momentum,

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<v Speaker 2>conservation demands that when the photon completely reverses its direction

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<v Speaker 2>when it bounces off, it imparts a secondary equal kick

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<v Speaker 2>of momentum to the sale.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you are essentially double dipping, which is great. It's ideal.

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<v Speaker 3>Specular reflection is exactly what you want because all of

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<v Speaker 3>the momentum from that clean you know, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty degree balance is directed perfectly backward toward the emission source, meaning.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent of the reaction force pushes the sale perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>Forward right along your target vector. And if we could

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<v Speaker 3>engineer a mathematically perfect mirror, the calculations for interstellar travel

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<v Speaker 3>would be incredibly straightforward.

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<v Speaker 2>But we can't.

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<v Speaker 3>No real materials introduce the third force, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>where all the complications begin. And that force is diffuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Scattering, right, diffuse scattering because no macroscopic material is actually

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly smooth.

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<v Speaker 3>Or perfectly reflective. At the atomic level, a certain percentage

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<v Speaker 3>of the incoming photons just won't bounce cleanly.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens to them?

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<v Speaker 3>Instead, they are absorbed by the material's atoms. This briefly

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<v Speaker 3>elevates the electrons to a higher energy state for just

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<v Speaker 3>a microscopic fraction of a second. Then the atom drops

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<v Speaker 3>emit a photon.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And because of the nature of spontaneous emission. That

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<v Speaker 2>re emitted photon doesn't actually remember where.

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<v Speaker 3>It came from, It has no memory of the laser beam.

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<v Speaker 2>It just gets shot out in a completely random direction

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<v Speaker 2>across the rear hemisphere of the sale exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is inherently inefficient because you are introducing vector cancelation.

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<v Speaker 2>Vector cancelation, So if a photon is randomly re emitted,

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<v Speaker 2>say sharply to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Left, the reaction force kicks the sale to the right right.

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<v Speaker 2>But then statistically another photon is being scattered to.

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<v Speaker 3>The right, which kicks the sale back to the left.

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<v Speaker 2>So all that lateral momentum is just completely canceling itself out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's generating heat, it's causing internal stress on the

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<v Speaker 3>sale material, but it is contributing absolutely zero net forward thrust.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just bleeding potential energy into chaotic multidirectional noise, you

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<v Speaker 2>really are.

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<v Speaker 3>You lose a massive percentage of your pushing power to

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<v Speaker 3>that geometric inefficiency alone.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems like a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, under normal Newtonian mechanics, you know, at low speeds,

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<v Speaker 3>this diffuse scattering is simply modeled as a constant fractional loss.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an annoyance, but manageable.

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<v Speaker 2>You just calculate it and move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, You calculate the ratio of specular reflection to diffuse

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<v Speaker 3>scattering based on whatever material you're using. You subtract the

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<v Speaker 3>wasted lateral vectors, and boom, you have your baseline acceleration curve.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just build a slightly more powerful laser to

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<v Speaker 2>compensate for the inefficiency.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you just brute force it with more gigwats. But

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<v Speaker 3>and this is the crux of Shannon Li's model. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't stop at low speeds.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the whole point of a light sale is to

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<v Speaker 2>go incredibly fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the goal is to achieve relativistic velocity. And as

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<v Speaker 3>you push past roughly ten or twenty percent of the

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<v Speaker 3>speed of light, classical mechanics completely.

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<v Speaker 2>Break down and the weirdness starts.

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<v Speaker 3>The weirdness starts, relativistic effects begin to heavily, heavily distort

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<v Speaker 3>the incoming laser beam.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so we immediately run into the relativistic Doppler effect. Yes, now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think everyone understands standard Doppler shifts like a siren

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<v Speaker 2>passing by, So we can probably skip the acoustic analogies

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<v Speaker 2>here wear enough. The real issue here is severe redshift

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<v Speaker 2>from the sales frame of reference.

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<v Speaker 3>Very severe. As the sale accelerates to say zero one

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<v Speaker 3>two CE or point three CE, it is literally running

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<v Speaker 3>away from the incoming electromagnetic waves.

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<v Speaker 2>So from the perspective of the sale itself, the wavelength

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<v Speaker 2>of the laser light is just being violently stretched out.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the frequency drops and because a photon's energy

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<v Speaker 3>is directly proportional to its frequency.

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<v Speaker 2>Lanks constant times frequency rates.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly because of that, the red shift means the incoming

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<v Speaker 3>light literally holds less energy and less momentum by the

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<v Speaker 3>time it finally catches up to the sale.

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<v Speaker 2>That is wild. It creates the severe power drain effect.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you're out running your own fuel supply.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's use a visual here. Let's assume the lunar

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<v Speaker 2>laser array is firing in the high energy ultraviolet spectrum.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, a good example UV lasers.

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<v Speaker 2>When the sails just starting out moving slowly, it receives

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<v Speaker 2>the full impact of those high energy UV.

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<v Speaker 3>Photon full power maximum thrust.

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<v Speaker 2>But as the sail crosses zero point three C, the

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<v Speaker 2>Lorentz factor begins to aggressively stretch that light. So from

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<v Speaker 2>And as it approaches half the speed of light zero

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<v Speaker 2>So the fast are the sale goes, the weaker the

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<v Speaker 3>Which means your thrust curve flattens out.

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<v Speaker 2>Dramatically, which means the engineers back on Earth have to

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, or, and this is more likely, they actually have

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<v Speaker 3>frequency over time, wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Like changing the color of the laser as the ship flies.

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<v Speaker 3>Away, exactly, starting with something extreme like X rays, so

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<v Speaker 3>that as the sail reaches relativistic speeds and runs away

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<v Speaker 3>from the beam, the light down shifts into a wavelength

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<v Speaker 3>that the sales material is actually optimized to reflect.

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<v Speaker 2>That's incredibly complicated. You are just constantly fighting the fact

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<v Speaker 3>You are, But as brutal as this Doppler redshift is

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<v Speaker 3>on your energy budget, it is still just in an efficiency, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It just slows down the rate of acceleration exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The really crucial revelation in shen In Lee's research is

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<v Speaker 3>what happens when you push the sale to exactly seventy

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<v Speaker 2>Speed of light the point seventy five sea wall.

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<v Speaker 3>The point seven to five sea wall. Because right at

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<v Speaker 3>a simple energy loss.

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<v Speaker 2>And it actively mutates into a mechanical break.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it becomes a drag force.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is the phenomenon of relativistic light aberration. And

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we have to. It's the only way relativity makes

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<v Speaker 2>So let's return to the perspective of an astronaut riding

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<v Speaker 2>on the sale in their local frame of reference. Nothing

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<v Speaker 2>has changed, right, The diffuse scattering behaves exactly as we

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly to the astronaut, the laser hits the saal, the

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<v Speaker 3>atoms absorb some photons and they randomly re emit them

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<v Speaker 3>in a standard uniform distribution across the entire back half

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<v Speaker 2>So to the astronaut looking out the back window, the

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<v Speaker 3>It looks perfectly normal. But the reality of special relativity

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<v Speaker 3>means the universe simply doesn't agree with the astronaut's perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we have to look at the geometry of that

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<v Speaker 2>scattered light from the stationary frame of reference.

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<v Speaker 3>From Earth or from the laser array the origin point

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<v Speaker 2>Because the sail is moving forward at point seventy five C,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lorentz transformation suddenly applies to the angle of the

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, is commonly referred to in astrophysics as the headlight effect.

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<v Speaker 2>The headlight effect. Okay, how does that work well?

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<v Speaker 3>When an object emits radiation isotropically, meaning equally in all

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<v Speaker 3>directions in its own rest frame.

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<v Speaker 2>Like our sail doing the diffuse scattering.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly when it does that, an observer in a stationary

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<v Speaker 3>frame will actually see that radiation beamed forward, tightly concentrated

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<v Speaker 3>in the direction of the object's motion. Wow. And the

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<v Speaker 3>faster the object moves, the narrower and more forward directed

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<v Speaker 2>So this applies directly to the diffusely scattered light on

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<v Speaker 3>It does. As the sail accelerates, the stationary observer back

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<v Speaker 3>on Earth sees those randomly scattered rear word photons essentially folding.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward, folding forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Their angles of emission are literally swept into the direction

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<v Speaker 3>of travel by the relativistic speeds.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so, if I'm tracking the math here, even though

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<v Speaker 2>the light is physically emitted from the back surface of

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<v Speaker 2>the sale, the extreme forward velocity of the sale itself

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<v Speaker 2>just completely overpowers the rear word trajectory of those photons. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>to the stationary universe, that light is no longer moving

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<v Speaker 2>backward at all. It is hurdling forward ahead of the sale.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what's happening. And because momentum absolutely must be

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<v Speaker 3>conserved in all reference frames.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a catastrophic inversion of Newton's third.

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<v Speaker 3>Law exactly think about it. To generate forward thrust you

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<v Speaker 3>must expel energy or mass opposite to your direction of.

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<v Speaker 2>Travel, throw something backward to go forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. When the diffuse photons were scattering backward at lower speeds,

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<v Speaker 3>they provided a tiny, albeit inefficient, net forward push. But

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<v Speaker 3>as the Sale reaches point seventy five C, the relativistic

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<v Speaker 3>aberration becomes so incredibly extreme that the net momentum vector

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<v Speaker 3>of the diffusely scattered light actually points forward in the

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<v Speaker 3>stationary frame.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning the Sale is now effectively expelling photon momentum in

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<v Speaker 2>its direction of travel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and the reaction force to a forward emission.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a backward push exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Diffew scattering flips from a weak thruster into an active

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<v Speaker 3>drag parachute.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just it's mind blowing. The universe is taking

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<v Speaker 2>the gigawatts of energy that we're actively pumping into the

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<v Speaker 2>Sale from Earth, and it's using the Sale's own microscopic

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<v Speaker 2>imperfections to break the spacecraft.

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<v Speaker 3>It is an incredible, highly counterintuitive speed trap.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. The faster you try to push pass

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<v Speaker 2>point seventy five C, the more forcefully your own scattered

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<v Speaker 2>light shoves you backward. Right, Which I mean that raises

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<v Speaker 2>the immediate question of whether this represents a hard physical limit, like,

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<v Speaker 2>stop accelerating entirely?

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<v Speaker 3>And that is a vital distinction to make based on

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<v Speaker 3>Shen and Lye's paper, It does not represent a hard stop.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't. No, the net force on the sale remains

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<v Speaker 3>mathematically positive.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it keeps moving faster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the forward thrust generated by the incident light plus

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<v Speaker 3>whatever remaining specular reflection you have, even heavily weakened by

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<v Speaker 3>the Doppler redshift we talked about earlier, all of that

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<v Speaker 3>still manages to just barely overpower the backward drag generated

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<v Speaker 3>by the aberrated diffuse scattering.

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<v Speaker 2>So the sale will technically continue to accelerate pass point

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<v Speaker 2>seven five c.

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<v Speaker 3>It will, However, the energy economics become completely untenable.

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<v Speaker 2>Right because you're fighting yourself exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You are pouring staggering, mind boggling amounts of energy into

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<v Speaker 3>the propulsion system, and the vast majority of it is

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<v Speaker 3>being consumed simply to fight the drag force created by

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<v Speaker 3>your own messy photon emissions.

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<v Speaker 2>So the cost of benefit ratio of pushing a spacecraft

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<v Speaker 2>from say zero point seven to five c to point

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<v Speaker 2>eight c. That might require more energy than pushing it

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<v Speaker 2>all away from zero too point seven to five c

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<v Speaker 2>in the first.

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<v Speaker 3>Place, easily could. It's a wall of diminishing returns.

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<v Speaker 2>But we also have to acknowledge the boundaries of the

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<v Speaker 2>theoretical physics models being used here, right, Because Schen and

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<v Speaker 2>Lye are relying on the concept of an idealized mirror

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<v Speaker 2>interacting with pure radiation.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, they map the absolute theoretical limits of photon momentum transfer.

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<v Speaker 2>But to isolate those specific relativistic variables, they necessarily had

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<v Speaker 2>to strip away the environmental reality of the actual interstellar medium, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a huge factor because the vacuum of space isn't actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Empty, right, what's out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it contains trace amounts of interstellar gas, primarily hydrogen

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<v Speaker 3>and helium, along with microscopic dust greens scattered about.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, when a spacecraft is moving at slow speeds like

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<v Speaker 2>or voyager probes, the interstellar medium is basically a.

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<v Speaker 3>Non issue, completely negligible. But kinetic energy scales with the

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<v Speaker 3>square of velocity, and at relativistic speeds you have to

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<v Speaker 3>factor in the Lorentz multiplier on top of that, so

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<v Speaker 3>it gets bad, very bad. Yeah. Traveling at seventy five

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the speed of light, a collision with a

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<v Speaker 3>single stationary hydrogen atom is essentially a high energy particle

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<v Speaker 3>physics event. You are essentially flying a giant particle accelerator

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<v Speaker 3>directly into a cloud of ambient gas.

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<v Speaker 2>So the physical drag from just slamming into that gas

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<v Speaker 2>would be immense on its.

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<v Speaker 3>Own, immense, and beyond just the kinetic drag, you have

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<v Speaker 3>the thermal nightmare of bremstralling radiation.

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<v Speaker 2>Bremstrallng radiation. What is that in this context.

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<v Speaker 3>It's breaking radiation. Those relativistic collisions with the hydrogen atoms

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<v Speaker 3>are going to generate a massive bowshock of X rays

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<v Speaker 3>and gamma rays.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning you are dumping unimaginable amounts of heat directly into

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<v Speaker 2>the sale itself exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The theoretical paper treats the sale as an intantly resilient

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<v Speaker 3>geometric plane, which is necessary for the math, but in

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<v Speaker 3>reality you have a multi taro watte laser pumping immense

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<v Speaker 3>heat into the back of the sale and relativistic hydrogen

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<v Speaker 3>atoms blasting gamma ray heat into the front.

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<v Speaker 2>So just sustaining the physical integrity of this ultra thin,

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<v Speaker 2>highly reflective material under those thumbal.

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<v Speaker 3>Lows without it instantly flashing into plasma.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, without it vaporizing. That is an engineering hurdle that

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<v Speaker 2>honestly dwarfs the math of relativistic light operation.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does. The material science required to actually survive

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<v Speaker 3>the journey dictates that we cannot rely on simple reflective.

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<v Speaker 2>Metals like mylar or aluminum foils, right, which were the

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Those would melt in a microsecond. The solutions being

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<v Speaker 3>actively developed right now in aerospace engineering focus heavily on

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<v Speaker 3>advanced meta materials and highly tuned photonic crystals.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we really need to unpack the mechanics of meta

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<v Speaker 2>materials here, because this is where the theoretical physics actually

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<v Speaker 2>translates into tangible hardware.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the practical application of all this weird relativistic math.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And we aren't talking about discovering a new element

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<v Speaker 2>on the periodic table.

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<v Speaker 3>No, A meta material derives its unique properties not from

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<v Speaker 3>its base chemistry, but from its physical microscopic structure.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does that look like.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about engineering a physical lattice of nanoscale resonators.

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<v Speaker 3>These are dielectric structures that are physically smaller than the

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<v Speaker 3>wavelength of the light hitting.

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<v Speaker 2>Them smaller than the wavelength of light. That's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's incredibly tiny.

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<v Speaker 3>It is you are essentially constructing an artificial refractive index.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, explain that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when an electromagnetic wave like our laser interacts with

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<v Speaker 3>a naturally occurring material, the response is dictated completely by

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<v Speaker 3>the atomic properties of that specific material. You get what

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<v Speaker 3>you get, right, But with a meta material, you design

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<v Speaker 3>a physical grid, perhaps using say silicon or titanium dioxide

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<v Speaker 3>nanoparticles arranged in incredibly precise geometric patterns.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like a maze for light kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>When the incoming laser light enters this subwavelength lattice, the

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<v Speaker 3>structure forces the electromagnetic field to oscillate in highly specific

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<v Speaker 3>engineered ways, so you can control it. You can trap

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<v Speaker 3>the light, you can manipulate its phase, and you can

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<v Speaker 3>dictate exactly how it exits the material.

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<v Speaker 2>So instead of a flat mirror where a photon hits

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<v Speaker 2>a stray atom and just scatters randomly, which causes our

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<v Speaker 2>whole diffuse drag problem in the first place, the photon

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<v Speaker 2>enters the specifically engineered maze exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The meta material forces the photon to navigate the lattice

436
00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:33.640
<v Speaker 3>and exit perfectly in the opposite direction.

437
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<v Speaker 2>Meaning you are aggressively engineering the diffuse scattering out of existence.

438
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<v Speaker 3>That's the goal. You force almost one hundred percent of

439
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<v Speaker 3>the interaction into perfect specula reflection.

440
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<v Speaker 2>And if you remove the diffuse scattering entirely, you drastically

441
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<v Speaker 2>reduce that relativistic drug penalty at point seventy five C.

442
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you neutralize the aberration break. But you have to

443
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<v Speaker 3>remember you tune the resonant frequency of that photonic crystal

444
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<v Speaker 3>to the exact wavelength of your driving laser.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, and we have the Doppler shift to worry about exactly.

446
00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:09.599
<v Speaker 3>You have to account for the Doppler shift we discussed.

447
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<v Speaker 2>Earlier, right, because the laser color is changing from the

448
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<v Speaker 2>sales perspective.

449
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so the sale might actually require a gradient structure.

450
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<v Speaker 2>A gradient structure.

451
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<v Speaker 3>Meaning different layers of the meta material tuned to different frequencies,

452
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<v Speaker 3>stacked on top of each other.

453
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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. So as the sale accelerates and the incoming

454
00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:26.680
<v Speaker 2>laser light redshifts down, the.

455
00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Light penetrates deeper into the sale, It passes through the

456
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<v Speaker 3>layers tuned for UV and it hits the specific lattice

457
00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:36.759
<v Speaker 3>layer buried deeper inside that is designed to reflect that

458
00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:40.119
<v Speaker 3>lower frequency visible or infrared light perfectly.

459
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<v Speaker 2>That is just a staggering level of passive engineering, it

460
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<v Speaker 2>really is.

461
00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:45.359
<v Speaker 3>It has to do all of this automatically.

462
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<v Speaker 2>But the application of meta materials goes beyond just mitigating

463
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<v Speaker 2>the aberration drag, doesn't it. Oh, absolutely, because there is

464
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<v Speaker 2>this deeply elegant concept and aerospace design where you try

465
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<v Speaker 2>to take the hostile physics of the environment and actually

466
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<v Speaker 2>use them to your advantage.

467
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<v Speaker 3>Turning a bug into a feature.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And maintaining the spatial alignment of the sale is arguably,

469
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<v Speaker 2>you know, the most terrifying point of failure for interstellar mission.

470
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<v Speaker 3>It's a massive challenge. You have a laser beam traveling

471
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<v Speaker 3>over vast astronomical distances trillions of miles, and the beam

472
00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:22.200
<v Speaker 3>will naturally diverge, right, It widens as it travels, but

473
00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:25.160
<v Speaker 3>the core of the beam remains incredibly intense.

474
00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.200
<v Speaker 2>So the Sale has to stay perfectly centered on the

475
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.640
<v Speaker 2>peak intensity of that beam for years.

476
00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and if the Sale drifts even slightly off.

477
00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Access the uneven radiation pressure will induce a torque.

478
00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:39.200
<v Speaker 3>The sale will begin to spin, it'll tilt, and ultimately

479
00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:42.240
<v Speaker 3>it'll just fly off into the dark, completely missing the

480
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<v Speaker 3>target star.

481
00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:47.680
<v Speaker 2>And you can't steer it. Active stabilization is incredibly difficult

482
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:52.039
<v Speaker 2>because you cannot afford the mass penalty of carrying chemical thrusters.

483
00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Or gyroscopes or heavy onboard flight computers to steer the sale.

484
00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Because every gram counts. The entire mass budget is dedicated

485
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<v Speaker 2>purely to the payload and the crystal lattice exactly.

486
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<v Speaker 3>The stabilization must be entirely passive. It has to be

487
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<v Speaker 3>built directly into the optical properties of the sale itself.

488
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<v Speaker 2>And this is where engineers can leverage the very relativistic

489
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<v Speaker 2>phenomena that Shen and Lie detailed. Right.

490
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, by carefully designing the asymmetry of the meta material,

491
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.079
<v Speaker 3>you can actually create restorative optical forces.

492
00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I picture this operating similarly to the aerodynamics of

493
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<v Speaker 2>a Badminton shuttlecock. That's a perfect analogy, because the shuttlecock

494
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:35.240
<v Speaker 2>doesn't need active steering, right its physical shape ensures that

495
00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:38.599
<v Speaker 2>no matter how chaotic its flight path becomes. The asymmetric

496
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:42.359
<v Speaker 2>aerodynamic drag forces its heavy nose to point directly into

497
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<v Speaker 2>the direction.

498
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Of motion, it naturally rights itself exactly.

499
00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>So we can apply that exact same principle, but map

500
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<v Speaker 2>it onto the geometry of space time and photon scattering

501
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:53.759
<v Speaker 2>instead of air resistance.

502
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so imagine the Sale begins to tilt relative to

503
00:24:57.720 --> 00:24:58.880
<v Speaker 3>the incoming laser beam.

504
00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.319
<v Speaker 2>It's drifting off course, that's right.

505
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.759
<v Speaker 3>When that happens, the angle of incidence changes. The photons

506
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.920
<v Speaker 3>are now striking the subwave length structures of the meta

507
00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.359
<v Speaker 3>material from a slightly skewed angle. Okay, you engineer the

508
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:14.440
<v Speaker 3>lattice so that when this specific off axis angle occurs,

509
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:18.519
<v Speaker 3>the material intentionally breaks its perfect specular reflection on that

510
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<v Speaker 3>specific side.

511
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it purposefully induces a controlled amount of diffuse scattering.

512
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:25.720
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, just on the side that's tilted.

513
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:28.880
<v Speaker 2>And because the Sale is moving at relativistic speeds, we

514
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<v Speaker 2>know exactly what happens to that diffuse scattering.

515
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 3>The headlight effect takes over.

516
00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:37.720
<v Speaker 2>The relativistic aberration turns that localized scattering into a localized

517
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:39.119
<v Speaker 2>drag force exactly.

518
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:43.119
<v Speaker 3>You are utilizing the aberration induced drag as an asymmetrical break.

519
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:44.000
<v Speaker 2>That's brilliant.

520
00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:45.880
<v Speaker 3>The side of the sale that is tilting out of

521
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.839
<v Speaker 3>the beam experiences a sudden spike in relativistic.

522
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Drag which pulls that side backward.

523
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it naturally generates a restorative torque that pulls the

524
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:58.160
<v Speaker 3>sale back into perfect alignment with the beam.

525
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:00.599
<v Speaker 2>And then once it is aligned, the angle.

526
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Of incidence returns to zero, the material resumes perfect speculat reflection,

527
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:08.319
<v Speaker 3>the drag disappears, and the acceleration continues. Wow.

528
00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 2>It is a completely self correcting optical mechanism that operates

529
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:16.599
<v Speaker 2>entirely through the interplay of nanoscale engineering and the extreme

530
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.880
<v Speaker 2>laws of special relativity. No moving parts, no moving parts,

531
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:23.799
<v Speaker 2>no sensors, just the raw geometry of light reacting to

532
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>the curvature of space and the speed of the vessel.

533
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:30.599
<v Speaker 2>We are literally taking the universe's speed limit penalty and

534
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:32.160
<v Speaker 2>turning it into the steering wheel.

535
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:36.200
<v Speaker 3>It's incredibly elegant, and it perfectly illustrates the necessary evolution

536
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:37.960
<v Speaker 3>of our approach to interstellar travel.

537
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:39.640
<v Speaker 2>We can't just force our way through.

538
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 3>No, we cannot brute force our way to another star system.

539
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.599
<v Speaker 3>The environment at a significant fraction of light speed is

540
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.240
<v Speaker 3>far too hostile and the energy requirements are far too unforgiving.

541
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>We have to play by the universe's rules.

542
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:55.400
<v Speaker 3>We have to map out the highly nonlinear dynamics of

543
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:59.240
<v Speaker 3>relativistic flight, you know, understanding how variables like the Doppler

544
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:03.519
<v Speaker 3>shift and relativistic aberration compound upon one another, and then

545
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:05.839
<v Speaker 3>weave our engineering directly into those constraints.

546
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:08.640
<v Speaker 2>This whole journey from the macro to the quantum scale

547
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>really recontextualizes the entire challenge for me.

548
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:13.680
<v Speaker 3>It's a completely different paradigm.

549
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, we started with the sheer mass problem

550
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.079
<v Speaker 2>of the rocket equation, right, the realization that we have

551
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>to just abandon chemical fire and rely on the massless

552
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>momentum of photons.

553
00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:26.519
<v Speaker 3>And then we explore the mechanics.

554
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Of that thrust, the incident strike, the perfect balance of

555
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.799
<v Speaker 2>specular reflection and the messy reality of diffuse scattering.

556
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:36.319
<v Speaker 3>We examined how velocity itself begins to degrade our power

557
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:40.119
<v Speaker 3>supply through the Doppler red shift, forcing the laser to

558
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.960
<v Speaker 3>push against a rapidly fading target.

559
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.319
<v Speaker 2>A target that's literally changing colors as it runs away.

560
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 2>And then we hit the aberration wall at point seven

561
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>to five C, where the stationary geometry of the universe

562
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:53.240
<v Speaker 2>folds our own scattered light forward.

563
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Creating an inescapable relativistic headwind out of our own propulsion energy.

564
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 2>And then we moved from the theoretical white board calculations

565
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.839
<v Speaker 2>of SHN and LIE right into the physical labratories, developing

566
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 2>the actual photonic crystals and subwave length metamterials required to

567
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:13.160
<v Speaker 2>survive and you know, even exploit that headwind.

568
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.640
<v Speaker 3>The depth of understanding required to even conceptualize a functional

569
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 3>light sail is just profound.

570
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>It's saggering.

571
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.279
<v Speaker 3>It demonstrates that crossing the interstellar void is less an

572
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:28.240
<v Speaker 3>issue of generating enough raw power and more an exercise

573
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.400
<v Speaker 3>in extreme physical choreography.

574
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Extreme physical choreography.

575
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 3>I like that because we have to perfectly balance the

576
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:38.240
<v Speaker 3>thermal load, the relativistic collisions, and the quantum mechanics of

577
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 3>photon absorption. Cross distance is measured.

578
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:43.680
<v Speaker 2>In light years, which leaves a really fascinating philosophical thread

579
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:46.519
<v Speaker 2>to pull on as we look at the monumental difficulty

580
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 2>of this whole endeavor. Well, yeah, because when you map

581
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.279
<v Speaker 2>out the compounding obstacles, you know, the curany of the

582
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>rocket equation, the punishing red shift, the relativistic aberration, that

583
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>literally uses our own energy to push back against us.

584
00:28:58.519 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 3>That's daunting.

585
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:03.519
<v Speaker 2>It feels almost intentional, intentional, like how it forces you

586
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:06.839
<v Speaker 2>to wonder if the actual architecture of space time, with

587
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>its inescapable aerodynamic limits and mass penalties, acts as a

588
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>sort of natural quarantine protocol.

589
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I see, like it's.

590
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Inherently designed to keep biological species localized within their origin systems.

591
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.000
<v Speaker 3>The universe doesn't want us leaving the.

592
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Nest exactly, or you know, on a more optimistic note,

593
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>whether these relativistic speed traps are simply the ultimate unfiltered

594
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.599
<v Speaker 2>test of a civilization's maturity.

595
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:33.519
<v Speaker 3>The technological right of passage.

596
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, a final engineering gauntlet that forces a species to

597
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 2>fully master the quantum and relativistic domains before they are

598
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.079
<v Speaker 2>actually permitted to sail across the dark.

599
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 3>That's a beautiful way to frame it.

600
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 2>It is an extraordinary puzzle, and the fact that we

601
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 2>are currently designing the meta materials to solve it right

602
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>now in labs on Earth means we might just see

603
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.880
<v Speaker 2>a piece of human engineering writing that beam of light

604
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>in our own lifetime.
