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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Agatha reviews.

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I am the clown Prince of bad jokes, trust Snail,

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and I'm joined by the Road.

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Speaker 2: Taylor Field, the road?

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Speaker 1: Have you? Have you done that one before? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Most likely?

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, even after this episode, there is

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nothing else you had, just the road?

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Speaker 2: No, I had nothing, I got nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go, lais Johan, Well, we got a

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kind an interesting episode talk about here. As you can see,

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it's just myself and Taylor. We will be joined. Kirkland

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should be joining us, he says next week he'll be

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back while Taylor's gone. Well, because you're likely not there.

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So that's why I said, you gotta catch up. You

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gotta finish by then. I told him he've planned to.

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But I do think the two hour runtime of the

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movie were retroing later for the patrons. Is U probably

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put a abosh on that, but you know, subscribe Patreon

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to find out what that is. But yes, we are

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back to a few Agatha episode six Egatha all along

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particularly you know, always forget about that, but yeah, as

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usual taylor Field nonsport thoughts on this week's episode.

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Speaker 3: Ah, So I think that it was actually fun to

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get some comparisons from this episode into like the other episodes,

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because certain storylines you get to see different perspectives and

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certain things that are paralleling a little bit, and I

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thought that was fun certain revelations. I think I'm more

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positive on it though, when I mean, some people probably

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don't like how they unveiled a certain thing, and I

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can see that, and I don't necessarily like it either,

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but I think that it's it's probably like for me,

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it fits in line with the kind of world that

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they've built here with like witches and all that kind of.

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Speaker 2: Stuff, So I think it's fitting.

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Speaker 3: But I can see that maybe some people I'm assuming

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probably aren't going to be fond of it, but it

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is what it is. I think that's certain motivations that

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have kind of come forward or you know, makes sense.

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah, like the I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know the episode.

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Speaker 3: I liked the episode over last week a little bit more,

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but I don't know if it was like necessarily blowing

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it out of the water. I feel like the way

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it ended, it just ended in a way that kind

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of rea. It ended similar to last week's episode, but

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it just I guess reinforced what we already.

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Speaker 2: Knew, and that's fine.

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Speaker 3: It gave us a little bit more depth on certain

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things here, which is great. H Yeah, I guess that's

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that's it without spoiling it because it's yeah, go over, you.

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Speaker 1: Go over, you go ghosts. Yeah, No, I think I

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think I could say this was my favorite episode just

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because episode one was the introduction, right, and then episode

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two was the collection, and then three, four and five

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were all the start on the road, do a trial

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back to the road, right, So all the episodes have

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kind of had you know, even the ice the introduction

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is just kind of a repeatab Wanta vision in a sense, right,

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it's I guess I go in through those motions and

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then the introductions or the collecting the team. Yeah, that's fun.

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But I think this was my favorite just because I

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was curious what they were going to do with this

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reveal because in the comics there's multiple you know, I

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think there's multiple ways. I'm not as hard on I

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don't know her say that, and I'm not as like

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knowledgeable when it comes to the to this section of characters.

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I have read them, but the origins everything like that,

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I don't think I ever have if I read them.

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It was like a once like okay, cool, but like

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the ya as I've said before, like Young Avengers, stuff

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like that never was my bag. As we talked about

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just last night on the newscast teen heroes, kid heroes,

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not not for your boy Travis back when he was

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a kid or teen. So I was curious. I liked

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what they did. I liked the pacing of this episode.

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I think, you know, whatever it's Myers was, but it

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is funny that just earlier this week, or like a

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couple of days ago, Penguin we got a very similar

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episode as far as you know, reveal and then okay,

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we're gonna go back, And it's funny that I feel

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we I said this at least, I think we've all

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talked about this, but with Penguin especially, I was like, man,

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it's so disappointing because I feel like we've talked about

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this with Star Wars and MCU, and I think even

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with Wan Division at times being like oh, I feel

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like we might have even said, or at least myself said,

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oh would be great, like Agatha, I got a whole

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episode now she got serious. But this is that it

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is taking a character, which I think this character needs

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it because it is a big revelation, Like honestly, we

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knew it, but I mean like for the one obviously

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the general audience, but two just going forward, it is

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kind of funny that I'll talk about this and spoils

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that this one storyline. It's just pretty much to the

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TV for such a big, such a big storyline. It's

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just if you were to skip all the TV shows,

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you'd be like, what the fuck is going on with

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these sets of characters, you know, for such a to

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me big thing. But I digress. But yeah, no, I

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think it would be my favorite. I like the pacing.

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revealed to me, which I'm even Disney's tweeted out and

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everything like that, but just in case anyone doesn't know.

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But I think I'm more invested in that character now.

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I liked the character more than you had already, but

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this gave me more investment. I like the journey of

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why he's there. Yeah, I really enjoyed seeing the flip

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side of the first episode. I enjoyed all For the

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most part. They bring something back, which I'm sure people

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are that are longtime listeners, is gonna love to hear

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me have to talk about again. But you know here

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we are, hence my name. So yeah, I think this

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is the top one. Now I didn't leave me like, oh,

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I can't wait, but I am. I think I'm more

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curious about how this shows ends. But also just like,

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where do these sets of characters go right after?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: And I guess it could just be young Avengers and such.

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But yeah, those are my non sport thoughts. So anything

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Speaker 3: I think my body is, you know, it's it's never

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ready until we're there, and then the we ares kick in.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, we'll go to think of it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so now we can from now on

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even next week spoilers, I don't care or call him

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Billy Maximov, no more Teene, no more nothing. H this

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is what I had told I guess you and yet Dylan,

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I don't know if Kirkland knows. I asked him if

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he got spoiled on last week. He didn't, so I'm

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wondering if it's gonna be like a whoa, a big

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moment for him. But yeah, so that's what this episode is.

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know where she's at this point on her knees of

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the gun in her face. Same thing here. How did

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of witches down the sand to you know where he started?

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se the person we know, because it's William Caplan who

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is not Billy. So was this the thing that you

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like it was like himself. But he's just my soul

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Speaker 3: I just wonder, like, are the people going to kind

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like I because I like the way because at first

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worried he was just going to take over a living

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person or it was going to be a weird combo

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my dad, you know, makes this type of suprioto, so

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he talked about things before. But I think I like

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rules I guess of not possessing a body, but still

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like he didn't rob anybody, right, like William Kaplan was

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going to die, and so technically it's like a reincarnation

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more time with just because we get that moment where

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he comes home from the hospital and they just kind

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he got back from the hospital were very xavier like

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as we've seen in the RGANE. Gray when they have

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one so I already get it, and I wonder if

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the people that didn't know the secret, and maybe we'll

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talk to Kirkland next week and he'll know, and then

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who did, because I feel like it is like a

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longer episode to reveal something we just know right like

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you've entered someone's body, you have all it's people just

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body has all this stuff in his room, has a family,

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but as he said, he didn't remember anything from the

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pre accident, right, So I thought that scene when he

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came home was very interesting with the parents. But then

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classic you know, twenty ten, twenty twenties trope three years

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later and then we just skip all that and he's like, Okay,

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he's he's a guy. Now, he's a boyfriend. He's figured

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it out enough of his parents not to make him weird.

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So I liked that aspect. But yeah, no, I'm fine that.

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I think I'm happy with him taking an empty vessel

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over emerging or just taking someone's complete body. We have

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a Wonder Woman sequel situation where she just takes this

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guy and gives some Steve Trevor right, right, so that

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we didn't want those debates again of what she did

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or didn't do to him. But yeah, so I'm I

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like the execution of it perfect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well said, you reminded me and I obviously though

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this is probably the other thing that people really really

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don't like, a return of a legendary mcu character.

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Speaker 1: Legendary. Wow, that's tough. So yeah, so in this episode,

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he kind of has an idea that he's Billy, but

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he never outright says it to the end. But he's

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been doing lots of research the whole time. As I

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just see someone in our discord come talking about the

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guest star doing all this research. No one will talk

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about it. There's whispers I like, you know, I like

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these type of things where he has all the things

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on the wall and he's like those aren't you know

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spell or they're not like a training thing. It's the hexes.

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spent the last three years. It feels like just trying

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to get affiliated with his life, but then also just

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learning some of these things. So then finally there's a

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source that I can't remember if he said read it

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or whatever he did, but he was read it okay,

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So he found a source because no one will talk

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about the West, who think government the people that live

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there get to dud it's like a sworn a secrecy, right,

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and then they pull into uh because he's with his

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boyfriend at time. I can't remember his boyfriend's name, but

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I liked that scene too, when he's kissed him and

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he's like, oh, like he can read his mind and

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he wants to say I love you, and then he

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just says it like me you know, oh me too,

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is like, what do you mean too? I thought, I

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thought that was good and it was a good little

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moment there and got to meet the boyfriend, and I

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think the boyfriend took it pretty pretty well. I guess,

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like just I feel like the teenagers, you know, I

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guess well, I guess again. I would have liked more

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scenes with them, as far as I'm not saying he

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needs to be drunk, like that's it, we're broken up

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or anything, but just like, oh okay, yeah, you're another

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person in the body. But I digress. Great boyfriend. Then

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he accepts it. Cool. They go they're gonna go meet somebody,

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and the somebody they're gonna meet has the name of

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Boner sixty nine, and lo and behold, of course Evan

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Peters is back, and he is back as Ralph Boner.

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Ak Randall. Yeah, they love this joke. And that's one

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thing where it's like, Okay, I still I'm not no

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longer mad about it because I was when it first happens.

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I still think it's dumb, and I still think it's

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just like I So here's the thing. I'm up to

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two mites. I like this scene because Evan Peters is

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a really fucking good actor. I would say he's I'll

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say top twenty. I don't know if I want to

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say top ten, but top twenty, and he could maybe

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be a top ten at times. He's been my pick

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for the Joker. Go watch him and Dahmer, go watch

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American Horror Story. There's tons of stuff. He has a

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versatility and even in quick Silvery is great at there right,

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and he has such a good way of Even in

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this he does come off as like a deranged individual

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that's been like fucked up, but he's still funny. He

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still hits the comedy right. So I like his acting

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in the scene because I like Evan Peters. But the

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Boner stuff is just like, Okay, that's what you want.

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I want to stick to great like it's just I

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don't know, like and then even later on in the show,

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Angapa has a shirt where it said like because they

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established he's still living in Boner's house, and it's like, yeah,

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Boner Family re Units is pitch a tent. I guess

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this humor should work on me because like if people

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listen to geek first, we make all types of stupid,

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immature jokes. But I think it's just maybe because it's

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like tied, it's still tied to that reveal, and I

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think it's also just when it came the finale everything.

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I think most people can agree the finale is other

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than maybe the last five minutes to see when they

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stick good bye the kids and everything, the finale is weaker,

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like fucking what's her name Monica rambo is saying, Oh,

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they'll never know what you gave up for them. It's

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like you fucking tip over whole town. You know. It's like,

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so the finale has tons of problems, and we're alf

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Bone is one of them. And I guess like I

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can kind of respect it a little bit of saying hey,

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I think because I thought for sure, because they've done

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this many times where they put out something out there,

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and I think there's definitely some people that like it.

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I know Brent, he gets a giggle out of it,

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but definitely the majority, i'd say people were not a

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fan of that. And there's been any times where you go,

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look at mc goes, Okay, we're gonna pull back from

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that this time they didn't. They doubled down on it,

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and I guess I can kind of respect it in

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a sense of, hey, we like this dumb joke and

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we're sticking to it. But it just like it just

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feels to me, what like when we get chat GBT

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to write Deadpool, That's what it feels like. It's just

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like when it's his name is Boner sixty nine, and

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like the it just it feels way too type of

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try hard humor. I don't know, it just that just

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it doesn't work for me. It's also still tied to

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like the shitty reveal, but yeah, they're definitely not retconning anything.

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He's you know, he's what he is. He's a out

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of work actor. So didn't mind the scene. I thought

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it was if you're gonna have anybody be a secret

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of character, there's no really no one else who would

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have had right.

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Speaker 3: You know, A part of me thought, you know, it's

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Paul Bettany just like a vision and like doing like

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this human skin form.

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Speaker 2: A part of me thought, but no, that.

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Speaker 1: Would have been a whild greunited with the dad right

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there and everything. But yeah, what do you think about

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Boner sixty nine?

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Speaker 2: I had a good time with this.

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Speaker 3: I think that he played this like crazy conspiracy conspiracy

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kind of nut and was just also traumatized I suffering

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from his PTSD. Or he was talking about, you know,

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everyone had it bad with Wanda putting you in the

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show where you were like watching the show through your

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eyes and your mind. But he's talking about how he

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had it worse right because he was in there from

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Wanda's spell, but then he also was being manipulated by

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Agatha on top of that. So it just when he

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made a good point with that, because you can go

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over your head thinking about it that way.

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Speaker 2: So I liked his return.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he was being overly Ralph Bonery like before,

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like Boner like.

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Speaker 1: None of that. They definitely toned that part down. But

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I guess you could say that's ath I was controlling

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him a little bit there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but you could.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I like that at the end of the conversation,

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he's like, you know, I'll take cash or like give

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you half price off tickets for my show, like we

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need we need to fill seats.

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Speaker 2: Like that made me laugh. That was kind of funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked I liked how everything was really traumatic

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like he's Billy reads his mind and it's like, oh,

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don't don't ask Abouttha, don't ask about Angatha, and just

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the horror behind his eyes.

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Speaker 2: He's a really really good actor.

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Speaker 1: Shame this is his role, but it is a shame.

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Speaker 3: But it's at the end of the day, like I

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was thinking about. Okay, so we have Billy and Tommy

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that like Tommy exists somewhere, is Billy confirmed here, but

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Billy is the one that's kind of been reincarnated once

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we'll talk more about wants to get to the end

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of the world to find Tommy and bring him back.

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But when you look at like other multiverses where Wanda exists,

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we know Billy and Tommy exist in the real world

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and that like in their own unpossessed bodies, right, they

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exist as themselves, so there's obviously different variants of them.

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And I think it's just funny how how dynamic the

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multiverse is represented here, because then you have Boner, who

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is just this random guy but is not Quicksilver, whereas

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the same looking person as Quicksilver and.

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Speaker 2: Another one it's it's henn and Hand.

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Speaker 3: With Deadpool, you have Chris Evans that is the Torch

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here when the same guy looks like Captain America. So

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I think I think it's it fits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So he gives them the information and he sends

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him off to he talks about Agatha. They do some

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more research again doing the classic and anytime you deal

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with the Dracula or vampire or some a moral character,

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there's gonna be some character that gets on a computer

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and looks for images on these characters. And of course

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Agatha is and yeah, goes in the newspaper. There's old

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timmy photo. Apparently she's Dolly Parton's Joline like all this

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type of stuff. It's like, okay, sure have some fun here.

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But yeah, they track her down and then they this

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is the boyfriend eventually splits off. He decides to go

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to Westview because he learns Agatha's still there. We get

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to see which I actually really liked the interrogation from

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his point of view, where there's that's where we got

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the Ralph Bonner reunion shirt. She's that scene where he

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shows she shows him a book and it was just

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it's just flowers, like it's just Delilah's where remember when

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we in the scene that we got from Agatha. It

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was she was a detective and it was like she

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was very thrown off guard. So I really liked that

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back and forth. And I have to ask you too,

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because I feel like in the first and episode three

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you're if you on teen? How are you on teen now?

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Where we've been through a lot more episodes, but then

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especially this one because this is like a very teen

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centric I guess now Billy centric episode where are you now?

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And Billy? And also, what do you think about the

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Billy Agatha stuff here?

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Speaker 2: I like the character.

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Speaker 3: I think he's grown into his shell a little bit

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more annoying his actual motivations, like yeah, because at the

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start I didn't like how he was just kind of

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like he felt like cheesy, corny and just overly comedic

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and like it just it wasn't working for me. But

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seeing that his motivations are clear here and seeing that

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he's just he had actually a really confident character. The

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whole scene that they had at the end where Billy

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was talking to Agatha, I love that because Agatha is

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like poking around at him and he's just when when.

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Speaker 2: She's like, how did she word that?

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Speaker 3: She was talking about how she wasn't sure at the

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start and how she's like, oh, you know, what's a

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sigil and she's mocking him.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 3: I like seeing that this it was all just an act,

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and he's really this confident, like, don't fuck with me.

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Speaker 2: Mostly, I'm not afraid of you.

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Speaker 3: Mostly, I've just felt like he was pretty confident, like

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even if when he couldn't pull out his.

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Speaker 2: Powers, he still didn't give a shit like he was.

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Speaker 3: I felt like she was definitely intimidated and she had

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a little bit of that degree of stress because she's

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dealing with something Wanda related, and I think Wanda definitely

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left a pretty deep mark on her.

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Speaker 2: So after this episode, he's definitely improved.

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Speaker 1: For me. Yeah, again, I don't think because they are

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on the Young Avengers. I don't think he's like so

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for me, how can I say this? This is like

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a layered answer here. I am warned sit in Billy

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were before. I of course I'm invested in Wanda, so like, okay,

471
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Billy's kid, But until I saw a show, it's just like, Okay,

472
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,759
it's just Billy's kid. That's not gonna get me excited.

473
00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:11,079
I still don't think it does. I don't know how

474
00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:12,880
the show is doing. I think the rings have been

475
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,680
like going up for the show, which is good, but like,

476
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,599
I don't know if this character singularly like Sells oh Man,

477
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,119
he's in Young Avengers can't wait. But at least for me,

478
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,359
it's like another character. It's like, Okay, if we got

479
00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:29,079
Kamala Khan, we got Kate Bishop, we got I'm not sure.

480
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,640
I thought we thought about maybe America Chavez, but I

481
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,200
won't even include her. But he got Billy. I thought

482
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,759
there was another one that we have talked about that

483
00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:39,359
we were like, okay, it's those three and weird at

484
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,519
Scar what you said Scar, I did not say a

485
00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,200
Scar Scott. I know was those rumors we talk about

486
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,039
this year if they were to add X twenty three.

487
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,920
But to me, it's like if you had X twenty

488
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,759
three and then you had Billy. There's like, Okay, I'm

489
00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:53,640
getting more invested in the team, and I think they've

490
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,039
done a good job here what I say nonspoilers. So

491
00:22:56,519 --> 00:23:00,000
this is where I'm very curious again with Young Avenger,

492
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,559
and even when Wanda comes back, it's the same thing

493
00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:06,400
of like I've said this just on Penguin and I'm

494
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,920
gonna use this example again. But in the opposite direction

495
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:12,519
where you watch Endgame, Sam gets the shield. If you

496
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,440
watch CAPA American four, he's just Captain America. Great, you

497
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,279
don't need to watch fucking with your Soldier, even though

498
00:23:17,319 --> 00:23:19,119
they show you all there's a side story where this

499
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,319
he really became Captain America. Right, you can't do that

500
00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:27,359
with you watch Endgame and then multi Multiverse Madness with Wanda, right, like,

501
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,799
you can't do that, Like it's just very random. She

502
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,240
loses vision and then all of a sudden she has

503
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,960
kids and it's like none of that happened. Where Sam

504
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,920
you can easily watch that, So it's just funny again

505
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,960
though where not only in Wanda Vision TV show, which

506
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,799
luckily for them, was a big hit. So I'm sure

507
00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:43,759
a lot of people did see it, especially during COVID

508
00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:46,119
people are just starving for content, right, That and Loci

509
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,759
were big hits. But still it's funny that a huge

510
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,559
story for Wanda has I would say primarily, I know

511
00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:55,160
we got some in Multiverse Madness, but has primarily been

512
00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:57,640
in the shows where it's the creation of the kids,

513
00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:01,920
Vision West View them dying and now Wanda's kid coming

514
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,640
back is in a show again, So I just wonder too,

515
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,200
like when you get to a Doomsday or Secret Wars

516
00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:10,039
or even Young Avengers and it's like, oh, this is

517
00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:13,039
Wanda's kid. I wonder how many people are like what

518
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,680
the fuck if they don't even know? And then too

519
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,680
if they did watch one and you're like, didn't fucking

520
00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:19,319
kid die? Like it is like a I think a

521
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,039
risky game. I feel like it's smarter to do what

522
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:24,880
they did with Sam, where it's like, hey, here's a

523
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,759
side story or even echo, but something you don't have

524
00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:30,000
to watch this if you're invested. I think these big

525
00:24:30,039 --> 00:24:33,599
revelations and stuff are tough for general audience that already

526
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,000
have so much. So it was just a thought of

527
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,880
how these past couple of weeks that it's kind of

528
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,759
funny that this massive storyline for Wanda's primarily on TV

529
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:44,759
and that is not going to translate to everybody. But yeah,

530
00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:47,519
we'll have to see wherever they pop up. But yeah,

531
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:50,559
I thought, did you think it was weird that so

532
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,240
last week he gets those two witches to throw a

533
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:55,000
get of the down and then he throws them down.

534
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,720
I found it very oll that Atha just I guess

535
00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:00,759
just popped up from the quicksand and made it out

536
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,279
and the other two didn't. That was very odd because

537
00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:06,079
I thought when we open up she was climbing. I'm like, Okay,

538
00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:07,960
we're gonna see what we talked about last week, right

539
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,680
where she's stuck in like a different area of the road.

540
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:12,599
She's gonna have to work her way back. But then

541
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,960
Billy was just there. I found that very odd that

542
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,240
she just could get right back up. It just felt

543
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,880
like they did that big moment last week just to

544
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,720
have him like turn like do like like a cool

545
00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:25,559
action thing. But it felt it felt strange in the

546
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:26,160
moment to me.

547
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there.

548
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 3: It detracts in retrospect, the build up from the last

549
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,359
week's episode. Yeah, just the two other witches getting mopped,

550
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,079
and because.

551
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: Why did he throw her in there if he just

552
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,119
like went down the road with her again.

553
00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it doesn't make much sense, But I think

554
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,200
I do feel like we're gonna get the other witches

555
00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:51,799
back in some shape or form.

556
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: Now.

557
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: I wonder if, like when they both get to the

558
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,200
end of the road, could you see an Agatha maybe

559
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,119
asking for them to come back, because she does seem

560
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,599
to have you getting her powers back already, and I

561
00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:07,200
think they're back, Tommy, you think they're back before that?

562
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that if Aggith I could get out

563
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,559
that the quick saying, then I think it's gonna happen

564
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:16,799
again too, that they'll get out of there. So uh No,

565
00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:19,319
I think they'll be out of there, especially for some trials. Again.

566
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,039
Didn't see Rio though, which is very interesting.

567
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: Gone.

568
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: I thought for sure when he broke the sisual that

569
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,880
person walking behind him, I thought that was Rio, and

570
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,400
I thought she was going to be one way or

571
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,680
another interested that. Oh you're want Maximos kid I could

572
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,559
use for X, Y and Z right, But she's still

573
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,519
just kind of gone, which is it. I'm very curious

574
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:45,039
to see when she's gonna pop back up and where

575
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,640
and what's her like does she care about I'm sure

576
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,720
she's gonna care that he's one to some, but still

577
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,599
I'm as curious about that whole dynamic. But like I said, yeah,

578
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,480
didn't understand the Agatha thing. Just feels very odd that

579
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,599
you just walked down the road together again now, But

580
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,319
I did like the speech. Just like last I'm still

581
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:04,240
very much enjoying the I feel like Agatha or Sorry,

582
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,759
I've combined them. Katherine Hawn is playing Agathon still like

583
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:10,559
a villainis type of route because the way she was

584
00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:14,799
approaching Billy, to me, it almost feels similar. It's funny,

585
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,279
and I put Penguin though on a much higher pedestal,

586
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,119
but still it reminds me of like how Penguin is

587
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,119
our main character, but they're slowly like making you more

588
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,279
sympathetic towards Sophia and maybe rooting for her. Right I

589
00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:27,799
feel like that's what this show is doing, where you're

590
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,640
slowly rooting for Billy even though Agatha is the main character.

591
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,480
But Agatha is more in the villain role. I'd say,

592
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,720
right now, she just comes off very evil, and I

593
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,359
think that's a good thing. It wasn't just like a

594
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:40,440
we talked about that last week and now this week

595
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,480
again when she's making her speech about she's kind of

596
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:45,720
mocking him about, like you said, the schedule, his mom,

597
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:49,319
his dad, his brother, all this stuff. She doesn't come

598
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,799
off as someone like, oh, you know, like we'll work together.

599
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:54,640
It's fine. You know, I did it. You know, I

600
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,519
maybe was growing appreciated you because I found it interesting

601
00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:00,759
that she says that she thought could have been him

602
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:03,480
right away, which I found very odd. I could have

603
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:04,920
found in the middle, But I found that odd that

604
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,480
she would picked up on that right away. Her reasoning

605
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,160
was just, oh, well, you and your mother have the

606
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,920
same toil. It's like, all right, that's that's kind of

607
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,440
a cheap ploy. Like I guess I don't think you

608
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,599
spent that much time with Wanda, but I guess you

609
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,079
did so. But I did like her little like, oh,

610
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:20,559
it's good to see you again, and uh yeah, I

611
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:23,480
would like him to like talk about if he remembers

612
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:25,240
her at that time, right, because she was kind of

613
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:29,039
like an anti like figure, So I would be curious

614
00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:31,640
if that has some layover as far as maybe him

615
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,119
caring for her. But no, I thought that was a

616
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,359
very good scene. I liked how kind of scary she

617
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,440
still was in that very trying to be intimidating, and

618
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,599
I'm excited to see where they ended up going. And

619
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:46,200
uh yeah, Sigil's gone. We I guess we found out

620
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,319
that her name was Lilia, right that which that dead

621
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,559
She put the sigel on him because she saw so

622
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:57,640
she saw the future. So I'm guessing she did this

623
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,279
because what did she maybe worry Agatha or somebody else

624
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,119
might kill.

625
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: Him, worried I would kill him if she knew.

626
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that that's interesting and I don't know why.

627
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,720
I feel like it's weird that she said that the

628
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:13,519
sigels only broken when you die and you don't need

629
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:15,799
it any longer. It served its purpose, but it felt

630
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,759
like the Schidul was broken because he literally broke it

631
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:20,960
this episode, Like I felt like that was odd. He

632
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:22,480
literally took the schedule and broke it.

633
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Yes, but so it's hard.

634
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: It's up for interpretation, I guess, because he literally broke it.

635
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,319
But then if she technically died, then that also is

636
00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,200
in line with it too, So who hm, who knows

637
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:33,960
that's true?

638
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so she de technically that I'm excited to.

639
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,599
I don't know when I will. But even if I

640
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,519
watch some scenes of the beginning when she met Agatha

641
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:46,799
and Teen at the time at the shop, right, because

642
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:48,799
I I, out of all the people putting the sitchuls

643
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:51,079
on him, I didn't have her as one of the people. Right,

644
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,359
So when we did get see Old the Witches, we

645
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,079
saw Alice as a cop and I can't remember name

646
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,119
the other one, but we saw her as doing her

647
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,960
you know, routine or whatnot. So, yeah, they're throwing some

648
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,279
stuff there and uh yeah, hopefully I don't know. Hopefully

649
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:07,720
his parents are gonna be all right with all this.

650
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,799
Quite quite a life they got going on now. They

651
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:11,279
don't know it, but they got this son of this

652
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,279
uh scarlet witch type character, and they just lost their

653
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:14,960
own son, you know.

654
00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, No, it seems like you can't really backtrack

655
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,400
on something like that, like, hey, three years ago, like

656
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:23,680
I was not your son, your son died.

657
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, really that's some weight to it.

658
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: So I don't think they'll process it very well, considering

659
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400
we've got like five minutes of this episode of them

660
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,599
just not processing things very well.

661
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: Which I found it was weird. You would think that

662
00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:41,640
like he was in a car accident, he lost a

663
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,680
lot of blood. I felt like they're acting overly concerned,

664
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,880
like what the fuck's wrong with him? But it's just like, yeah,

665
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,279
he might be concut, Yeah, like he might be concuss

666
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:52,720
Like I found. I found that the reactions were a

667
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:55,119
little too hard. Again, I think it's because with the episode,

668
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:56,839
they don't have that much time. I would understand if

669
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,160
it's like been a couple of weeks later and he's

670
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,279
still off, but within like a couple they said he

671
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:04,640
had to stay one day, so it's like, again, he

672
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160
could be have some whiplash, Like I don't think he's himself.

673
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: So no, And even yet when they got home and

674
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:13,960
the Dad's like, oh, lets need the stress to stop happening.

675
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:16,359
I just want to be a normal family against yeah,

676
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,440
one day, one day after a car accident, and he's

677
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,160
already feeling attacked by his parents.

678
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I just feel like, uh, you know,

679
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,799
I guess yeah for Billy. But at the end, they

680
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:29,319
you gotta remember, he's like, how old was Billy when

681
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:31,599
he died? In WandaVision? He has like a Tom Hanks

682
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,359
big thing going on, right, Yeah, that's true. He's like

683
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,799
he is a I don't know, was he ten maybe

684
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,799
when that happened.

685
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could probably say around ten.

686
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: I see how old were Billy and Tommy in one vision?

687
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:56,680
Let's see so ten they ended at ten there? And

688
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:02,119
I'm not sure. Let's see Joe. How old is Joe here?

689
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,279
Now I'm not saying he's playing this character's age, but

690
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,319
so Joe Locke is twenty one now, I don't think

691
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:11,720
the character is supposed to be twenty one because I'm

692
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,319
assuming he's still in like high school, right, in this show,

693
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,240
they came to his boyfriend. So let's say he's like,

694
00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:20,880
let's say he's just like sixteen. Even then they get

695
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,759
at an age up six years, so there's that's a

696
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,160
and then obviously another three after that, but still just

697
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,680
six years. So it makes sense why maybe he's not

698
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:33,920
used to a stressful situation. But last he's he's in one.

699
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,000
So here it is an endgame.

700
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: Endgame takes place in so it starts in twenty eighteen

701
00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:44,319
and then it jumps five years to twenty twenty three.

702
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,680
Bear with me for a second here, So after that

703
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:53,319
it goes one division takes place three weeks after endgame, and.

704
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:54,359
Speaker 1: This is three years later.

705
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:59,079
Speaker 3: This is three years later, two twenty six, twenty twenty

706
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:03,400
six two versus Madness. We can say Wanda died technically

707
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,440
in twenty twenty four, I think, is what people are lying.

708
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: I think. I think so.

709
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: So it has been dead for two years at least.

710
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,839
So Billy came back and was like walking around but

711
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,200
wanted to couldn't sense him.

712
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wondering if they ever explained that, because especially

713
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,720
with the Dark Hold, she senses them in a different multiverse.

714
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:25,559
But you don't think she could sense her son's spirit

715
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:28,519
maybe in a body in the six one six, right,

716
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:34,960
That's what's interesting. So do you think with with Tommy,

717
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,319
do you think he has the same thing going into

718
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:41,720
another person's body, because again, Tommy's powers aren't really that

719
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,240
Billy's more of the magical one, but still the show

720
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:46,039
could just work that way. Or do you think his

721
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:48,039
soul's like floating somewhere, Like what do you think is

722
00:33:48,079 --> 00:33:49,759
going to be going on with Tommy if and.

723
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: When we find him, Well, he's being detected somewhere according

724
00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:56,480
to Billy, So I think Tommy is I think Tommy's

725
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,759
spirit is just out there and available.

726
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,559
Speaker 2: I don't think think like you would.

727
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:04,759
Speaker 3: Need another death or something like that lined up and

728
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,599
you need to have him to.

729
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: Be trying to find the right right vessel for his brother.

730
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: He would have to have that magic, but he doesn't.

731
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,119
Speaker 3: He's just a speedster, right, So I think he's just

732
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:23,599
his spirit is out there and yeah, either he'll maybe

733
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,440
uh Tommy will have to or so Billy will have

734
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,559
to be like, oh, I need to get you in

735
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,119
a vessel. So he kills someone and presents a body

736
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:33,800
for Tommy to take over. I possessed, I don't know.

737
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say he's just gonna find some kid that's

738
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,119
like Como toast or something. I don't think he's gonna

739
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:43,280
be killing or doing anything tonight. But yeah, anything else

740
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,599
with this episode we haven't touched upon.

741
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:48,159
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think that's it.

742
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the flashback, like like you said out the app

743
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,440
when she's I got that's basically just been a police

744
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,199
detective inside of her own home, not really cracking cases

745
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,000
or doing anything. That was that's kind of funny. But yeah,

746
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:02,159
I think we touched on yeat Rough Boner. I can't

747
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:03,039
think of anything else.

748
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think think not because it's it's funny, like,

749
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,920
well that's happened in these episodes, but it's still containing

750
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:10,599
lots of it is just like the lead up to

751
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,280
oh who is he? But it was fun to watch

752
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,719
with the girls though, because they don't know he was

753
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,599
scar Witch's son. So that was and I had to

754
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:20,639
really explain it to them because you know, of course

755
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:23,599
they kind of think, oh, was that Agatha's you know, son?

756
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:25,880
I like, no, like maxim Off, that's what skar Witch's

757
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,599
real name is and stuff. They had watched WandaVision, but

758
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:31,280
I think, I said, after this, we're gonna rewatch I'm soon.

759
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,440
I'm probably gonna rewatch Doctor Strange anyways, because I like

760
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,119
that and where Wolf finight it's like a Marvel type

761
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:41,039
of Halloween time. So I think I'm gonna rewatch WandaVision

762
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:43,079
and that with them to kind of brush them up

763
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:44,480
a little bit. But it was fun with them the

764
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,760
whole because the whole time they've been asking since sid

765
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,840
who is he? Who is he? So it was fun

766
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,039
to watch it with them. They would have ever guessed.

767
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:56,159
But uh, let's see. So sid In says, Solilia is

768
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:58,440
the entire reason for the multiverse. Managed she put sigil

769
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,880
on him before he died, so he was hidden from

770
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,480
all the witches.

771
00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so that could answer that makes sense, But then couldn't.

772
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: Why would she want to do that though, because I

773
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,000
don't know how they feel about the Scarlet Witch. But like,

774
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:16,000
technically you maybe could have avoided want to die and

775
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,000
some other stuff if she just found one of her

776
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:22,960
sons there, and you know, I would imagine maybe they

777
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,519
could have found out about the Witch's Road together and

778
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:29,000
then maybe they will get Tommy. So I I said,

779
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,480
I think that's a great reason. So now that answers, Okay,

780
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:34,840
why did she do that? But or sorry, why did

781
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,320
Scarlet Witch do what she did? But now I really

782
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,800
and I hope Lily is alive because I'd like to

783
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,679
know why she did that. Like it so I thought

784
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,639
she's gonna get killed, but like scar Witch is like

785
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,480
pretty powerful character, so I feel like if you were to, hey,

786
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:51,199
your son's over there, like, I don't know, what do

787
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,760
you think? Are we ever going to get that reason

788
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,920
of why she did that?

789
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: I hope so, because that's a pretty big reason and

790
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,599
they left it pretty ambiguous and mysterious right when we

791
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:03,440
saw her do it in this episode, So I certainly

792
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:06,840
hope that we get some kind of resolution to that

793
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,199
that that choice because she saw something and whatever that's

794
00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:12,000
something is, I'd like to know. I'm just head Ken

795
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,320
kennonting it as Agatha being a threat to maybe murdering

796
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,199
him or something like that. So she's like, Okay, this

797
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,440
sigil and this this spell will kind of rectify that,

798
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:23,360
keep you safe.

799
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're kind of in an odd spot right

800
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,480
because they'd first introduced one as just like a person

801
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:30,800
with powers, but now she's like a witch. But she's

802
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,400
never been this coven, so they kind of have some

803
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:36,599
like backpedaling to do there. But yeah, maybe we'll find

804
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:38,559
out next week. We only got a few episodes. Next

805
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:40,559
week should be myself in Pats or so I'll get

806
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:43,119
to we'll get like three episode reviews from him and

807
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,519
hear everything. And then we got seven, eight and nine,

808
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:48,599
so we're near the we're in the home stretch. We're

809
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,960
in the end game here pretty much, you know. So yeah,

810
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,639
thank you very much everyone who listened to this episode.

811
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,679
We'll be back next week, and I promise you it'll

812
00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:57,559
not be boring.

