Speaker 1: And nine Ignition.
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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Speaker 3: Ignition with the aw fan Hubb Community podcast team. We're
Speaker 3: gonna be talking about some aw hot topics and of
Speaker 3: course Grand Slam Mexico. And this show is gonna be
Speaker 3: a little bit different because I honestly believe that everything
Speaker 3: that we're gonna talk about tonight comes full circle. I
Speaker 3: think everything relates to everything else. It should be a
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Speaker 3: It's named the live chat is named Grand Slam Mexico Live.
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Speaker 7: Chela. Howdy folks, this is Chris, and after you join
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Speaker 7: be shocked if we get a pretty decent overrun. So
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's go ahead and talk about Grand Slam Mexico.
Speaker 3: Now we're going to be talking about some individual stuff
Speaker 3: in this almost said pay per view. It really is
Speaker 3: kind of a pay per view. It does have that
Speaker 3: feel to it, doesn't it. Don't you get that impression
Speaker 3: that this is almost a pay per view?
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, definitely gives that that feeling. You know, AW
Speaker 7: does a decent amount of these. They're almost like many
Speaker 7: pay per views, but on free TV because Tony Kahn
Speaker 7: likes to spoil us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I kind of admit something I've often
Speaker 3: like thought, and it's not like a prevalent thought, but
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, Tony com puts these banger shows on
Speaker 3: free TV. He's got to really do something special on
Speaker 3: these pay per views to make it not seem it's
Speaker 3: like another TV show, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: You know I do, And a lot of times he does,
Speaker 7: like these mini pay per views are so good and
Speaker 7: then the pay per views are somehow even better. Like
Speaker 7: I'll admit it, I'm a big fan. I like everything
Speaker 7: that he, well, mostly everything at AW is doing right now.
Speaker 3: Right, Flyboy rex Over in the chat says, sios unite
Speaker 3: absolutely just in a broad general term, what do you guys,
Speaker 3: think of this Grand Slam Mexico card is a Do
Speaker 3: you see this as a overall positive or is there
Speaker 3: things on here that you're you know, scratching your head about.
Speaker 3: I personally think this is a really, really really interesting card.
Speaker 3: What about you, guys?
Speaker 6: It is?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 4: I'm excited for Speedball versus Kyle that sure tomorrow night
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a banger bang or bang or banger.
Speaker 6: Gonna be fun.
Speaker 3: Anybody else with any opinions on Grand Slam Mexico's card
Speaker 3: before we actually get into the meat, but the discussion.
Speaker 1: I think everything makes sense and everything excuse me, everything
Speaker 1: makes sense, and I think this is something, especially for
Speaker 1: a life crowd in Mexico to look forward to. I
Speaker 1: expect it to be very loud shout out to Detroit
Speaker 1: from last week, but I think Mexico City might take it.
Speaker 1: As far as the crowd involvement.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I am really looking forward to this show.
Speaker 3: Chris Chris let mkay speak.
Speaker 2: He's been trying to stay It's all right. I have
Speaker 2: a habit of and our people too. I think it's great.
Speaker 2: The only thing I'm not looking forward to really is
Speaker 2: the eight man tag. But other than that. I think
Speaker 2: it's stacked. Tony has built a pretty good card. Speaking
Speaker 2: of meat, I'm interested in the Mark Davis versus Will
Speaker 2: Ospray match. A big, big old boy going against Will.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It should be a good match, all.
Speaker 7: Right, Chris, What were you to say by Yeah, I
Speaker 7: was just gonna say I'm really excited for this card,
Speaker 7: especially Fletcher versus s Feedball. That Trios match is really
Speaker 7: interesting just because Mistico, Jericho and Darby Allen is the
Speaker 7: weirdest team on paper. But I feel like it's gonna
Speaker 7: somehow work.
Speaker 3: Well. It could have been more weird if you replace
Speaker 3: Jericho with Dalton Castle.
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely would have been more buoyant.
Speaker 3: But look, let's get into the meat of the show
Speaker 3: because I have a theory. I do have a theory,
Speaker 3: and I want to see if you think that I'm correct.
Speaker 3: The Demand were the Trios champions champions until the Good,
Speaker 3: Bad and the Ugly you know came out and said, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, we're a team now. So the Demand just
Speaker 3: got the championship from the conglomeration. Do you think my theory.
Speaker 8: Is that the Demand won the championship over the conglomerations
Speaker 8: just so they could have this trios match at Arena Mexico,
Speaker 8: because who's more popular in Arena Mexico.
Speaker 3: In aw than Bandido, Brody King and Hangman and and Paige.
Speaker 3: You remember what happened the last time Grand Slam Mexico
Speaker 3: last year, Brody King and Hangman and the Page knocked
Speaker 3: it out of the park, you remember. So I'm thinking
Speaker 3: that the Demand won this championship simply so they could
Speaker 3: go on to Grand Slam Mexico and immediately lose it
Speaker 3: to the good, the Bad, and the ugly. What do
Speaker 3: you guys think of my theory? Not that at all.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying I love Fantido, Broby King, Hangman Page, like,
Speaker 7: those guys are awesome. I like the trio, but Man
Speaker 7: to Demand are my favorite trio in aw right now,
Speaker 7: and I don't want to see them be transitional Prios
Speaker 7: champions like I've wanted them to win those titles for
Speaker 7: a while and have a nice long reign with many
Speaker 7: defenses and help bring that prestige back up that hasn't
Speaker 7: really been there until the conglomeration. They definitely help bring
Speaker 7: raise the level of the trios titles, and I think
Speaker 7: the Demand can do that, So I really hope they win.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see the Demand cheat to win or
Speaker 2: something and then have this matchup, have a rematch it
Speaker 2: all in. I think that would be spectacular and then
Speaker 2: let the good the bad deadly have it.
Speaker 1: I agree. I don't want I don't want the Demand
Speaker 1: to lose it just yet. Me myself, I'm not a big,
Speaker 1: big man wrestling kind of guy, but the like I guess,
Speaker 1: uh to Leona and Bishop Kahn. I mean, they they're
Speaker 1: kind of rocking with it right now, and with Ricochet
Speaker 1: Air as their mouthpiece, I think it's perfect. I'm having
Speaker 1: a lot of fun with them. But I don't put
Speaker 1: this theory past anything. I think this, I think it
Speaker 1: makes sense. Although Adam Page has only had really two
Speaker 1: on screen moments in the past couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: so I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, it's been a while since he's wrestled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's very earned at
Speaker 1: this point. All we know is that he wants to
Speaker 1: go for every title other than the AW World Heavyweight Championship.
Speaker 1: Makes sense for him, But I don't know, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: too early.
Speaker 3: Matt, do you have an opinion.
Speaker 9: I would like to see the Demand keep the belts
Speaker 9: for a while. I mean, who doesn't love Hangman? But
Speaker 9: I I just like the Demand being Trio's champions. I
Speaker 9: think that they're very, very good. It seemed to me
Speaker 9: that it took a while for them to find their
Speaker 9: place together at first, at least for me, I was
Speaker 9: wondering what they were doing together. Seemed a little bit
Speaker 9: of a mismatch when they brought Ricochet in, because if
Speaker 9: you remember, the Demand was hanging out with Swerve, so
Speaker 9: it seemed like they were.
Speaker 1: Lost for a while.
Speaker 9: And I would just like to see them as Trio's champions.
Speaker 9: I don't want to see them become transitional champions anytime soon.
Speaker 9: And like someone else said, we can revisit this maybe
Speaker 9: at all. In that's it's my take on it.
Speaker 3: By the way, I do want to say something here.
Speaker 3: What I during Dynamite, I wasn't What did the Good,
Speaker 3: the Bad, and the Ugly come out was a dynamite collision.
Speaker 1: When they introduced.
Speaker 9: Themselves Dynamite at the there.
Speaker 3: Well, when we were taking this as a joke, Wolf
Speaker 3: sent me the Good, Bad and the Ugly graphic with
Speaker 3: like a animated render of the three wrestlers, and I
Speaker 3: took it and I did a little bit of photoshop.
Speaker 3: Took me about fifteen minutes that I came up with
Speaker 3: this graphic that you're seeing on the screen right now.
Speaker 3: Of course, if you're listening to this on audio, you
Speaker 3: can't see it. But it was interesting because it got
Speaker 3: a whole lot of likes and was real popular on
Speaker 3: social media, except for one thing. People were saying, why
Speaker 3: is Adam Page the ugly?
Speaker 9: I was wondering that too.
Speaker 3: There's an explanation here in the Spaghetti Westerns. And I'm
Speaker 3: old enough to have been alive when these movies were
Speaker 3: actually being released. In the Italian version of this, which
Speaker 3: is this is the Spaghetti Westerns means it's an Italian Western.
Speaker 3: Sergeio Leone is a Italian director, you know, for Italian movies. Anyway.
Speaker 3: The actual Italian title is The Good, the Ugly, and
Speaker 3: the Bad. So the actuality in this graphic, Bad Dido
Speaker 3: is the good, Brody King is in fact the ugly,
Speaker 3: and Adam Page is the bad. He's kind of set
Speaker 3: that straight because there are a lot of people. There
Speaker 3: were a lot of people that were like, how could
Speaker 3: you possibly you know? They're being you know, funny about it.
Speaker 3: They were comical It wasn't like people were actually upset,
Speaker 3: you know, but how could you say that the heckman
Speaker 3: of pages, you know, the ugly he's so beautiful.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, okay, you know, I thought you might
Speaker 7: have been going for irony, like you know, when a
Speaker 7: six foot five, three hundred pound guy is called tiny.
Speaker 3: Now, no, it is the truth. Gattivo is based the
Speaker 3: bad the translation.
Speaker 1: For something to add about the titles, And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys feel the same way, but I
Speaker 1: feel like the trios titles are kind of a stepping
Speaker 1: stone title. So I personally did not like the conglomeration
Speaker 1: as Trios Trios champions. I think having two young guys
Speaker 1: currently in in in to Leona and Bishop Khan, having
Speaker 1: two younger guys as Trios champions, I think just that's
Speaker 1: what the championship should be. I don't think any of
Speaker 1: these three Bendido, Brodie, King and Hangman need these titles
Speaker 1: to to, you know, really do anything for themselves.
Speaker 3: Well, no, I agree with you what you said a
Speaker 3: stepping stone title. Did you mean kind of like a
Speaker 3: mid card title?
Speaker 1: Mid card but also it gives a chance to some
Speaker 1: younger talent to kind of you know, take some gold
Speaker 1: and run with it however they can, and see see
Speaker 1: what they can do with it. As someone that may
Speaker 1: be a little newer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, when I came up with
Speaker 3: my theory about this match in particular, I mean I
Speaker 3: was just going for a fan service. I mean, if
Speaker 3: you have the good de bat and the ugly I
Speaker 3: love calling these that group that. Uh, if you have
Speaker 3: them win at Arena Mexico, the crowd is going to
Speaker 3: go insane. They're going to lose their minds. I mean
Speaker 3: we know that, and that's probably what they're going for here.
Speaker 3: If they do, in fact win the titles and become
Speaker 3: Trios champions, well man.
Speaker 7: The heat the command would especially if they cheat to
Speaker 7: win it. Ah, some booze would rain down. You may
Speaker 7: see some trash thrown.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 7: The heat they would get would be unreal. And I'm
Speaker 7: just waiting for the inevitable. Brodie Kings, Toto Leona stare down,
Speaker 7: you know, meet in the middle, bounce off each other,
Speaker 7: host battle greatness.
Speaker 3: You know, I do want to say one more thing
Speaker 3: about this graphic that I found funny. Some people were
Speaker 3: actually saying to me, why does Brody King have a gun?
Speaker 3: But I'm like, okay, well, the original poster basically had
Speaker 3: a gun, you know, so they all had guns, I think.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I found it interesting because there's that little
Speaker 3: in the bottom right hand corner to Brody king grat
Speaker 3: there's a gun, right but not a single person said
Speaker 3: anything about the gigantic hole in the middle of his abdomen.
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's like nobody brought up the big gunshot hole,
Speaker 3: you know, in the middle of his abdomen. I was like,
Speaker 3: I thought it was clever nobody noticed it, so I
Speaker 3: thought I pointed out AW fans, the least observant fans
Speaker 3: on the planet. But remember I said that what we
Speaker 3: were going to talk about was going to come full circle,
Speaker 3: and it really does, because the next thing I want
Speaker 3: to talk about is this AWS ten Championship belts. There
Speaker 3: have been six title. Six of those belts have changed
Speaker 3: hands in the last thirty days, and when you think
Speaker 3: about it, I'm not sure if it's within thirty days,
Speaker 3: but it'd be pretty close. If Keny Omega loses the
Speaker 3: will Osbury, you know, on the thirtieth at all, in
Speaker 3: that's another title change. So when you look at the good,
Speaker 3: the bad, and the Ugly possibly winning the trios titles
Speaker 3: at Grand Slam Mexico. It kind of fits right into
Speaker 3: what AAW has been doing. Do you like the fact
Speaker 3: that AAW I use the term hot potatoes? It probably
Speaker 3: wasn't really good term to use, But do you like
Speaker 3: the fact that AW is hot potatoing their titles so much?
Speaker 3: Because when you look at it, they are changing hands
Speaker 3: really fast?
Speaker 7: Well, I think the only ones that have really been
Speaker 7: hot potato is really the world title and the TBS
Speaker 7: to an extent.
Speaker 3: But on that and Chris Chris, it's a fact that
Speaker 3: six of the title of the ten, six of the
Speaker 3: ten belts had changed hands in the last thirty days.
Speaker 7: Yes, I understand that, but hot potato kind of means
Speaker 7: like they change from one person to the next to
Speaker 7: the next within that thirty days. But that's only true
Speaker 7: with the AW and the TBS. With the International Tickets
Speaker 7: had a solid run with the belt before dropping it
Speaker 7: to Fletcher. The Conglomeration had a solid run with the trios.
Speaker 7: Heexla had a very good run with the women's title.
Speaker 7: Davis had a solid run with the national title, the
Speaker 7: TBF title I've always said it, and the TNT I
Speaker 7: like it more as a kind of TV type title,
Speaker 7: so I don't mind when those change hands, you know,
Speaker 7: relative with a relatively short rain, because hopefully we're getting
Speaker 7: four or five six defenses before that title thing. The
Speaker 7: only one I really haven't liked it with is the
Speaker 7: AW World title. Like if Omega versus Off Pray was
Speaker 7: always the plan, Omega should have won it at the
Speaker 7: previous pay per view where he faced MJF and we
Speaker 7: could have just I like Darby's brain, but we could
Speaker 7: have gone without.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, then that's fair enough. Let's hear from other people.
Speaker 3: Do you guys think that this trend WORAW is changing
Speaker 3: titles rather quickly, should continue or do you want to
Speaker 3: see some longer title reigns.
Speaker 1: I like the switching. I think as long as as
Speaker 1: long as it's not so obvious that they're doing it
Speaker 1: for all in, you know, if they continue to do this,
Speaker 1: I like it. I don't particularly like super long reigns.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are fans of Luca Underground,
Speaker 1: but I had a lot of fun with that show,
Speaker 1: and that's because they weren't very afraid to switch up titles.
Speaker 1: I think giving that identity to aw would be really funk.
Speaker 3: You were about to say something I have.
Speaker 2: The only one I have a problem with really is
Speaker 2: the TBS taking it off of Willow because of health reasons,
Speaker 2: but then a month later, you know, and then she
Speaker 2: did get it and then gets taken off Sheida. That
Speaker 2: was kind of weird to me. But that's really the
Speaker 2: only one that stands out out to me. I understand
Speaker 2: the need because of an MJF injury to put it
Speaker 2: on Kenny Omega where they did. I can't Mark Davis.
Speaker 2: I had to disagree with Chris. He said Mark Davis
Speaker 2: had a good run with it. I don't remember him
Speaker 2: having that many good matches and that will have a
Speaker 2: run with it. But no, I don't like the habitating
Speaker 2: on myself.
Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of long title reigns. I've
Speaker 3: said that before on this on this podcast. But I'm
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit I'm not concerned, but wondering why
Speaker 3: we're doing such quick especially like with the world title.
Speaker 3: I mean, you went from MGF to Darby Allen, to MGF,
Speaker 3: to Kenny Omega and now probably to to will Osprey.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see what when we put up the
Speaker 3: prediction polls about ten days before we're all in to
Speaker 3: see what the aw fan hub community he thinks of
Speaker 3: that particular match, because I want to see how many
Speaker 3: people actually give Kenny Omega a shot at retaining. But anyway,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not I'm not adverse to titles changing,
Speaker 3: especially like the TBS title and the TNT channel title,
Speaker 3: which are open challenge TV titles. Basically, I don't have
Speaker 3: a problem with those changing, but I do kind of
Speaker 3: have a problem with, uh, you know, the World Championships
Speaker 3: on both the women's and the women's sides changing hands.
Speaker 3: We haven't heard from val or Net on this topic yet.
Speaker 3: I'd like to hear what they have to say.
Speaker 9: Sorry, I don't mind the titles changing hands. It gives
Speaker 9: everybody a chance to compete and it makes it a
Speaker 9: little more exciting. I do wish they had them a
Speaker 9: little while longer, especially on the women's side.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 9: So I don't know. I'm can fuse from what they're
Speaker 9: doing and how it's going, I have I have yet
Speaker 9: to form a really good opinion on it. I think
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I really do think that if this trend of the titles,
Speaker 3: you know, changing hands fairly quickly continues for the rest
Speaker 3: of the year. I think people will stand up and notice,
Speaker 3: you know, and maybe some people may even complain that
Speaker 3: it diminishes the titles. I don't think so, but you know,
Speaker 3: you kind of do have to listen to what the
Speaker 3: what the fans say, and you know, as far as
Speaker 3: that goes, Val, did you have an opinion?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm kind of I kind of agree with net
Speaker 6: a little bit. I don't like longer rings, just like Kelson.
Speaker 6: I don't like being chap someone being championed for over
Speaker 6: a year or so, like MJF was. But I agree
Speaker 6: with Chris on.
Speaker 4: The aw World Champion. Kenny should have won at Dynesty
Speaker 4: in my opinion and skip the Darby ring that that's
Speaker 4: my opinion, but it's very very difficult for me to
Speaker 4: have an opinion on it based on what I'm seeing.
Speaker 4: It needs for me to make sense, and for now
Speaker 4: it doesn't.
Speaker 6: So I'll wait and see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you brought up a good point with
Speaker 3: MGF and is what was it four hundred and Yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to say four hundred and six. I probably
Speaker 3: got a run. But anyway, that kind of tole rain
Speaker 3: is different to me, because MGF is just a polarizing character.
Speaker 3: He when he defended it was an event, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, whereas somebody like Jade Cargill was just
Speaker 3: doing squash matches that lasted, you know, three minutes, four minutes,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of thing when she was TVs champion
Speaker 3: and that just did not make that didn't make any
Speaker 3: sense to me. That was that was stale. It was stale.
Speaker 3: That was That was a term that a lot of
Speaker 3: people on social media used about j Cargill's run. It
Speaker 3: was stale, not j car Gills's fault, by the way.
Speaker 3: That's the way it was booked. But you never heard
Speaker 3: that being said about.
Speaker 6: M j and when she used to be champion, sorry Kelson,
Speaker 6: when she used to be champion, I put it on mute.
Speaker 6: I was not interested at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but again, it wasn't her fault. It
Speaker 3: was the booking. And it may have a lot to
Speaker 3: do with the state of the division at that time.
Speaker 3: You had not as many bid carters that were viable contenders.
Speaker 3: I mean, you had some people like sky Blue, Julia
Speaker 3: Hart you know, that were there and they you know,
Speaker 3: if if j Cargo was the champion, TVs. Champion right now,
Speaker 3: it would be different because there are more mid card
Speaker 3: content that actually have experience. Back then, you had way
Speaker 3: too many young talent that just didn't have a lot
Speaker 3: of experience. I mean, so you know, that was that.
Speaker 3: But you know, you can also look at John Moxley's
Speaker 3: you know, Briefcase Run as something that some people loved
Speaker 3: and some people didn't, you know, and it just it
Speaker 3: is what it is. But what the Briefcase Run did
Speaker 3: was that when it finally came to the payoff of
Speaker 3: Hangman Adam Paige winning it and opening up the briefcase
Speaker 3: and taking out the aw World Championship at all in Texas,
Speaker 3: that was a pretty big moment, you know. So you know,
Speaker 3: it really worked and I loved that match simply because
Speaker 3: Hangman Addam Paige had a lot of help come out
Speaker 3: to help him. If you remember, he had Swear Strickland
Speaker 3: and I believe will Ospray and a few other people
Speaker 3: came out to Alphabet. At no point did any of
Speaker 3: them touch John Moxley. They were just clearing out the
Speaker 3: other death writers that were trying to interfere, but they
Speaker 3: never actually interfered in the match. And that was perfectly done.
Speaker 7: That was probably my second favorite match I've ever seen live.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's move on because again, this next topic
Speaker 3: kind of relates to this topic and every other topic,
Speaker 3: and that is, Kenny Omega and Willow Nightingale are the
Speaker 3: men's and women's world champions right now? Do they even
Speaker 3: need to defend the title before their respective all in matches?
Speaker 3: What do you guys think about that? What they went
Speaker 3: all the way to all in, all the way to
Speaker 3: all in and not defend their title once until all in?
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Beal, I'll go first.
Speaker 4: I would see Kenny versus Peedball because of the promise
Speaker 4: that he made to Speedball way way back before Dynasty
Speaker 4: to give him a title shot. I would Willow I
Speaker 4: would too because my opinion is that it was a
Speaker 4: bad decision to have her to have the title, and
Speaker 4: I would too. I would do a rematch with Tech
Speaker 4: Class dynamidal collision or something for the.
Speaker 3: Title or the title, Okay, anybody else with opinion on this.
Speaker 9: I wish that they would not defend leading up to
Speaker 9: their matches. It can give you a little bit more
Speaker 9: of a guess of who's going to win what A
Speaker 9: lot of time when they do the matches before the
Speaker 9: pay per views. You know who's going to win because
Speaker 9: they're on the graphic for the pay per view. So
Speaker 9: I wish they would stop doing that and just.
Speaker 7: Leave a lot of suspense.
Speaker 9: Maybe some coming out and talking in the ring and
Speaker 9: hyping it up and some stare downs with their all
Speaker 9: in or whatever pay per view opponents, but no, not
Speaker 9: running around having matches leading up to the pay per view.
Speaker 9: Give it a maybe two weeks of really building it
Speaker 9: up and really hyping it up. For me, it makes
Speaker 9: the pay per view more exciting if you don't know
Speaker 9: that the champion is going to walk out champion still,
Speaker 9: so I.
Speaker 1: Would rather not see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right me. I want to ask you a question,
Speaker 3: mat because you said something that I actually one hundred
Speaker 3: percent agree with you in Because if you, as Valerie said,
Speaker 3: well you want to see Kenny Omega defend the title,
Speaker 3: say it not this coming week but the week after
Speaker 3: against Mike Bailey. Why would you want to see that?
Speaker 3: Because you know Mike Bailey is going to lose. But
Speaker 3: I have a proposal for you, and I want to
Speaker 3: hear what Net thinks about this, because what she said
Speaker 3: made sense. Net using Valerie's match idea. How would you
Speaker 3: feel if Kenny Omega had a match with Speedball, Mike
Speaker 3: Bailey or Willow, Nike Gillana match with Tecla or somebody
Speaker 3: else before all in, but it's an eliminator match, meaning
Speaker 3: that if they get beat, that person gets a future
Speaker 3: world title match guaranteed.
Speaker 9: I wouldn't mind that. I wouldn't mind saying that.
Speaker 3: Because that means like Kenny Omega could lose it, it wouldn't
Speaker 3: cost him the title and it would be a story.
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, they give us something for later.
Speaker 3: And with Willow, if she defended, if she did an
Speaker 3: eliminator match against Techla, could then make that match a
Speaker 3: three ways. A lot of people have been saying that
Speaker 3: they want that match for whatever reason at all, in
Speaker 3: between Willow and Monett to be a three way with
Speaker 3: Techlan included in that. There are a lot of people
Speaker 3: who've been saying that on the subway.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 1: Think it's because Tecla.
Speaker 2: I think people feel that Tecla got robbed a little
Speaker 2: bit because she held it for so long, held the
Speaker 2: division up was popular, and then some people feel that
Speaker 2: it got taken away too soon. I just think that
Speaker 2: Willow needs to prove herself a little bit more because
Speaker 2: she just came back and she's only really had one
Speaker 2: one thing and she wanted so I think I think
Speaker 2: one more match against anybody really decent could pump her
Speaker 2: up a little bit more and show Monet that she's
Speaker 2: not messing around.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean, I am ninety eight percent sure that
Speaker 7: both Kenny and Willow are losing most titles that all
Speaker 7: in so Hitting has had one defense, so I wouldn't
Speaker 7: mind another. But if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. Willow.
Speaker 7: I want to see at least one defense because I
Speaker 7: don't want her to be a zero defense champion losing
Speaker 7: it on you know, like losing it basically right after
Speaker 7: she won it. I just I'd like to see one defense,
Speaker 7: and you know, against Techlo would be interesting. I like
Speaker 7: the eliminator I did Techla winning and turning it into
Speaker 7: a triple threat because you know, I've said I wanted
Speaker 7: it to be Techla versus Mercedes. I just want Tecla
Speaker 7: in that freaking match, because she is awesome, like she's
Speaker 7: got He's just got that effect or man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to break in here because I want
Speaker 3: to apologize to the people in the chat. For some reason,
Speaker 3: our chat crapped out on us, and it just came
Speaker 3: back and I missed a whole bunch of chats. Uh,
Speaker 3: So I'm going to read off some of the chats
Speaker 3: that have been said. Wolf says that I would protect
Speaker 3: Kenny and Osprey and bubble Wrap until all in. Uh.
Speaker 3: He also said, uh, Tecla versus will versus Monette would
Speaker 3: have been better, as Tecla deserved that. I think you
Speaker 3: know that's that's an argument that has been said. And
Speaker 3: then Joscelyn came right back and said it's time to
Speaker 3: move on from Tecla. She could have other angles without
Speaker 3: the title, which is of course correct as anybody could
Speaker 3: have a title without our angle without a title, and
Speaker 3: then said, I guess many don't watch New Japan. I
Speaker 3: need Mercedes versus Willow rematch. And that's it from the
Speaker 3: from the chat. I'm sorry again that I missed that,
Speaker 3: but like I said, it just all of a sudden
Speaker 3: flooded in. But I'm glad we got those in. Anybody
Speaker 3: else with with the opinions on should Kenny and Willow
Speaker 3: defend the titles before all in? All right, Well, let's
Speaker 3: move on to.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, that was like a little mouse popped in and went.
Speaker 3: I assumed that I assumed that that was Valerie.
Speaker 6: Oh but yeah, probably Sorry.
Speaker 3: I just I mean, don't disrespect that. But I just
Speaker 3: don't think that you had that cutesy hype it's mouseboys.
Speaker 9: No, No, I don't.
Speaker 3: So. So we've got a new tournament in a w
Speaker 3: This is a Continental Challenge Cup. It's a sixteen person tournament.
Speaker 3: Let me just bring up the next graphic. How it works.
Speaker 3: No outsider interference and no time limits. That's a big one.
Speaker 3: No time limits. Sixteen wrestlers compete in eight blind draw matches.
Speaker 3: The eight winners then compete in four blind draw matches.
Speaker 3: The four winners move on to the semi finals in Glasgow,
Speaker 3: scott and Scotland. And I know I mispronounced that. April
Speaker 3: twenty April August twenty sixth. The Cup final takes place,
Speaker 3: of course, at Webley Stadium. The winner of the final
Speaker 3: receive the Continental Cup, which is a trophy and I
Speaker 3: kind of look at it from my understanding, it's kind
Speaker 3: of be like the Stanley Cup trophy in hockey, where
Speaker 3: your name will be engraved on it and it will
Speaker 3: stay on that forever, you know, and the winner of
Speaker 3: the final at all In will be the new ae
Speaker 3: W Continental Champion, which of course that gets them to built.
Speaker 3: But this is something totally different from the uh from
Speaker 3: from the Continental Classic, which will be what is that
Speaker 3: usually in Lake in November.
Speaker 7: November late into December because it's raptically the finals are
Speaker 7: typically at worlds.
Speaker 3: In right the world's end. So you know, when I
Speaker 3: first got this, the the first thing I did was
Speaker 3: somebody's got something going on in the background. When I
Speaker 3: first saw this as like, oh god, another tournament in
Speaker 3: aw But then I stopped and actually thought about and
Speaker 3: I was like, this is actually brilliant. Okay, somebody everybody
Speaker 3: needs the mut because there's somebody that ever getting feedback on.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, guys, but anyway, this is something totally different
Speaker 3: because when you go back and look at the last
Speaker 3: topic we just talked about, does Kenny Omega and Willow
Speaker 3: Nightingale need to defend their titles? This Continental Challenge Cup
Speaker 3: kind of makes it not as necessary because now you're
Speaker 3: having meaningful matches leading into all In where you don't
Speaker 3: actually have to have Kenny Omeghan, will All night Gale
Speaker 3: or really, anybody else defended their titles that are in
Speaker 3: are in you know, set matches at all in already
Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: If you think about it. John Moxley is defending his
Speaker 7: title in every match.
Speaker 3: Exactly, the tournament exactly, and you know it's really something else.
Speaker 3: Jay Rojas in the Chat Continental Cup should come down
Speaker 3: to John versus Nigel or John versus Jay. If Jay
Speaker 3: does not make it to the end, it should be
Speaker 3: because of dogs pre match beat down or a postmatch angle.
Speaker 3: And Wolf says, these graphics are great. No, Wolf, you
Speaker 3: cannot borrow money. Wolf is one of my longest friends
Speaker 3: as far as being in this aw fanop community, and
Speaker 3: he's my brother. We tease each other a lot, so
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, Wolf, you know that.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to say that I'm going to give
Speaker 2: it a chance. I have some skepticism. I wish they
Speaker 2: would have I'm not I wish they would have had
Speaker 2: it on a different title, but I understand that I
Speaker 2: think we can figure out that Max. It will probably
Speaker 2: be in and I just do not want Nigel in there.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I don't like hometown, home country hokiness. I got a
Speaker 2: feeling that's going to happen with several different matches, and
Speaker 2: that seems predictable to me. I want to see j
Speaker 2: White or somebody else get this. There's plenty of good
Speaker 2: people in here, but I'm willing to give this a chance.
Speaker 3: Well let's look at the people. Here's the the eight matches,
Speaker 3: starting with this week's Collision and then continuing it next
Speaker 3: week's Dynamite. Six matches on Collision for the Continental Challenge Cup,
Speaker 3: and then two on Dynamite next week. Uh I kay,
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I definitely don't want to see Nigel.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see fan We already have way
Speaker 3: too many fan service. We got will Osprey, the brawling
Speaker 3: birds are probably gonna be there. It really to me,
Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be. It has to come down to
Speaker 3: Moxley versus j Way in my opinion, it really does.
Speaker 3: But I'm interested to hear what you guys think later, Vinson.
Speaker 7: I love the tournament like I'm a tournament guy all
Speaker 7: the way. I don't quite understand having a tournament for
Speaker 7: the Continental Championship three months before you have a tournament
Speaker 7: for the Continental Championship, but you know it is what
Speaker 7: it is I am a cited for seven of these matches.
Speaker 7: There are fifteen fantastic wrestlers in this the finals, you know,
Speaker 7: I'm hoping for Moxley versus Switchblade, but I wouldn't be
Speaker 7: surprised if Nigel makes it, especially after him saying to Moxley, Oh,
Speaker 7: we could meet in the first round or you know.
Speaker 7: And plus he just put his ROH career on the
Speaker 7: line in his match at Death before dishonor against Lee Moriarty.
Speaker 7: I think he's if he makes the finals, we're going
Speaker 7: to get the same thing, you know, where he will
Speaker 7: put his in ring career on the line if he
Speaker 7: doesn't win the finals and he gets to go out
Speaker 7: in a banger match in his home country. I don't
Speaker 7: really want that to happen because I don't think we
Speaker 7: need that. I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna interject real quickly. And then to let a
Speaker 2: commentator go that far in a match to me looks bad.
Speaker 2: I know who he is, I know his past, but
Speaker 2: there are several of the people out there who are
Speaker 2: every week on the card, and for me, that makes
Speaker 2: the competition look bad. To let a commentator go all
Speaker 2: the way to the finals.
Speaker 7: I agree with you on that, and I mean, honestly,
Speaker 7: there's a dozen other people I would rather see in
Speaker 7: the finals. Jay White's the leader than you know Finley.
Speaker 7: Probably a Claudio versus Moxley match would be great. Another
Speaker 7: Kyle O'Reilly versus Moxley match would be great because I
Speaker 7: feel really confident that Moxley will be in the finals,
Speaker 7: but I don't know if he will win that match.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, one of the things I do want
Speaker 3: to bring up is that I think it was a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago somebody Benchen and it may have
Speaker 3: been me, that John Moxley has been so wrapped up
Speaker 3: in the will Osprey story with the death writers that
Speaker 3: other than Forbidden Door, he really had not defended the
Speaker 3: continental title at all. Well, this is essentially an opportunity
Speaker 3: for John Mosley to defend this continental title like three
Speaker 3: or four times. Would you agree with that? Because I
Speaker 3: know he defended like what was the last week or
Speaker 3: the week before.
Speaker 7: But against the Commander.
Speaker 3: Right, Uh, and that was a great. Commander is just outstanding.
Speaker 3: I can to watch Commander wrestle every week.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: But but you know the thing is is, again, he
Speaker 3: had really had not defended it all that much, so
Speaker 3: I think uh he probably noticed that. Knowing John Moxley
Speaker 3: the way he is in his wrestling mind, he probably
Speaker 3: noticed that. Probably what that Tony Connon said, Hey, I gotta, hey,
Speaker 3: I gotta you know, defend my title. That was a
Speaker 3: bad job. Moxley person, I'll be her all week.
Speaker 1: I think he would yell it. I like, uh, I
Speaker 1: like the whole idea that these are bucket pools and
Speaker 1: not just they they broadcasted, uh, you know, potential path
Speaker 1: it gives us and listen, I don't fully believe that
Speaker 1: these are just pulled out of a hat. You know
Speaker 1: you have you don't believe that? Yeah, Nigel McGuinness and
Speaker 1: Shabata you have, uh, which which other Kyle O'Reilly and
Speaker 1: Roger Strong, Jay White and David Finley. I mean that
Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe. I could crunching the
Speaker 1: numbers on this and and finding the odds would be interesting,
Speaker 1: but I find it very hard to believe that those
Speaker 1: are actual uh pool from a hat. But I really
Speaker 1: like the concept and you know what they could do
Speaker 1: next round kind of keep discussing.
Speaker 3: I will say this too, and Chet, I want to
Speaker 3: see if you agree with me. But looking at all
Speaker 3: these sixteen wrestlers, I would say that you know, of
Speaker 3: the sixteen, fourteen of them aren't going to make the finals.
Speaker 3: I would say twelve of them are shoe wins for
Speaker 3: the Casino Gauntlet at all. Do you think that you
Speaker 3: know the people in this in this tournament are Casino
Speaker 3: Gauntlet bound. Should they lose?
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. Maybe four of them, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think it would generate nearly the reaction that
Speaker 1: a lot of wrestlers not on this, not in this
Speaker 1: tournament would get. You know, who's going to pop for
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Jake Doyle, you know.
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying, you know, I mean I think Matt
Speaker 3: side I mean, obviously they'reeople would popper Orage Cassidy, but
Speaker 3: they wouldn't popper Matt Sidell as much.
Speaker 1: I think Casino gotlin is is it is like like
Speaker 1: you've been saying a fan service, it's a fun one
Speaker 1: and you know Matt Sidell would kill it. I think
Speaker 1: that's that's a match that he would thrive in. But
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that that's a match for
Speaker 1: him for for crowd reasons. I would say that's not
Speaker 1: the case here. But I'm excited. I think this there's
Speaker 1: something interesting with tournaments that I think maybe an American audience,
Speaker 1: you know, and watching getting a little more into New
Speaker 1: Japan and start them.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Tournaments set up the future quite nicely. You know, you
Speaker 1: don't know what exactly you're watching when you're watching it,
Speaker 1: but down the line you get so many references to
Speaker 1: a match where you know, why would Roger Strong and
Speaker 1: Kyle Riley russ each other in a singles match? You know,
Speaker 1: I think it gives it's it's so many seedlings for
Speaker 1: the future that uh that this and the Continental Classic
Speaker 1: will give us. So I'm absolutely hype for this. Aside
Speaker 1: from just the match we're going to get, I'm excited
Speaker 1: for the future that this gives us.
Speaker 3: Well, Valerie, I've been kind of quiet and nett what
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on the Continental Challenge Cup. I I
Speaker 3: like the concept.
Speaker 6: It reminds me of the New Japan Cup in UH
Speaker 6: in New Japan. I don't like the idea of the
Speaker 6: winner being the Continental champion. I would have done like
Speaker 6: the winner have a guarantee Continental Championship match against the
Speaker 6: get Well Moxley is the is the is the holder now,
Speaker 6: so I would say somebody against Moxley at the next
Speaker 6: preview or something not all in, but the pay.
Speaker 7: Per view after all out or wrestled Dream or whatever.
Speaker 6: So I like the idea. There's there's some people in
Speaker 6: it that I'm not interested in being in that tournament.
Speaker 6: I would have probably replaced something like Brian Cage or
Speaker 6: Jake Dorle for speedball because speedball is amazing in those tournaments.
Speaker 3: Well you're well, I mean you put you put speedball
Speaker 3: the women's champion if you could.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so everywhere.
Speaker 6: Yeah, speedball is you know, And I would even put
Speaker 6: Kyle Kyle Fletcher in it. Yeah, I know he has
Speaker 6: a belt.
Speaker 1: Considering considering the International Championship and the Continents Championship have
Speaker 1: been merged for the unified. I agree that.
Speaker 3: By the way, I gotta say something. In our chat,
Speaker 3: fly Boy Rex said Jake Doyle would get more of
Speaker 3: a pop than Eddie Boring. How dare you Eddie Kingston boring?
Speaker 3: We all love Eddie Kingston on this podcast.
Speaker 6: You do.
Speaker 9: Letters and Eddie on TV.
Speaker 3: Again, that's the problem with Eddie Kingston. They write letters
Speaker 3: to Tony Kahan.
Speaker 9: Hell I put heart stamps on them and everything.
Speaker 3: Boy. Let me say this to fly Boy Rex. I
Speaker 3: was being totally facetious because on this podcast we definitely
Speaker 3: have a big split about Eddie Kingston. There are people
Speaker 3: that love Eddie Kingston and then there are people that.
Speaker 9: That are delusion.
Speaker 3: That actually did that have working that actually have working
Speaker 3: brain cells. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I said, there are fifteen great wrestlers in this match,
Speaker 7: in this tournament, and when there's.
Speaker 1: Eddie, nothing, nothing pops see.
Speaker 3: But I want to come on. I will go on record.
Speaker 1: One hundred and everybody know.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows this. I love Eddie Kingston and I don't
Speaker 3: I don't ever want to see him in a wrestling match,
Speaker 3: but I do love Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 1: I don't know who is sarcastic in this pot and
Speaker 1: who's not.
Speaker 7: On this matter. I am not being.
Speaker 3: I will say this to you Tucci. I have not
Speaker 3: seen an Eddie Kingston match in over three years. I
Speaker 3: turned the TV off or change the channel. As a
Speaker 3: matter of fact, it's kind of a running joke in
Speaker 3: our live chats where somebody will winners it Eddie Kingston match.
Speaker 3: I forgot to say I'm leaving. They know that I'm leaving,
Speaker 3: and then Kelson. It's safe to come back now Eddie
Speaker 3: Kingston is gone.
Speaker 7: They don't mind Eddie Kingston matches because it's like, Okay, hey,
Speaker 7: I need to use the bathroom. I need to you know,
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to make this at Eddie Kingston bast
Speaker 3: They apologize to all any Kingston fans depends, you know,
Speaker 3: even though you're obviously delusional and stupid. I do apologize
Speaker 3: to all of you.
Speaker 7: Everyone, everyone, you know, that's all right.
Speaker 9: I love Eddie.
Speaker 3: Eddie though seriously.
Speaker 9: There's nothing that to love.
Speaker 3: He ahead I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: He's an inaugural Continental Tournament winner.
Speaker 3: And I will say this to you, Tucci. He was
Speaker 3: the inaugural Continental Championship and we all knew you were
Speaker 3: on the podcast then when he showed up on remember
Speaker 3: when they did the U the UH YouTube special, I
Speaker 3: guess is the best way to put it. But he
Speaker 3: showed up and he said, I'm going to put all
Speaker 3: my belts on on the line. You knew right then
Speaker 3: and there that he was winning the championship. That first
Speaker 3: C two was the biggest disappointment of my a W
Speaker 3: life because and I've said this before and I'll say
Speaker 3: it again, Yes, there were bangers, but you can't have
Speaker 3: bangers just for the sake of having bangs. They've got
Speaker 3: that means something. That entire tournament meant absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had Brian d Anderson lose to was.
Speaker 3: It was a joke.
Speaker 1: Eddie Kingston needs to be on that Cookie Show with
Speaker 1: Action Bronson. I think that's that'd be that'd be a
Speaker 1: good one.
Speaker 2: You're you're not supposed to, Yes, what I'm getting.
Speaker 1: I think tournament winners that have just free range to
Speaker 1: enter whatever tournament. I think that'd be a cool the
Speaker 1: cool thing to add to these tournaments probably like like
Speaker 1: you're wearing like you're wearing a master's jacket.
Speaker 3: Right, So we weren't established, so we've already established that
Speaker 3: Eddie Kingston is in this tournament, which I agree with
Speaker 3: Tucci on this. He's in this tournament because he's a
Speaker 3: former tournament winner in the Continental Classic and speedball Mike
Speaker 3: Daily Bailey should be facing Willow Nightingale and Mercedes Bone
Speaker 3: in a three way and all in.
Speaker 1: Okay, him and Max had history to don't put don't
Speaker 1: put past that. Listen, I'm not a big guy. I'm
Speaker 1: not don't don't put that in the atmosphere, they got
Speaker 1: they got history.
Speaker 7: No, I don't be surprised that that is a second round.
Speaker 1: Two hundred corner chops.
Speaker 9: And we count them and see who was right.
Speaker 3: We've done that before, We've done we've done that. We've
Speaker 3: done that before in our live chat where.
Speaker 2: We're like, okay, every time he does cho.
Speaker 3: Lets me count. Thank you for interrupting me. But we've
Speaker 3: done that in our live chat before, where we've had
Speaker 3: you know, wrestlers like Menora, Suzuki or or any wrestler
Speaker 3: that's been known for a chop and we count them
Speaker 3: and there's been like three hundred and some chops in
Speaker 3: a match before. It was like, it's unbelievable, you know.
Speaker 3: But I will say this about the most devastating move
Speaker 3: that Jake Doyle could do in his match against Kenny
Speaker 3: Eddie Kingston is to let Eddie Kingston do the machine
Speaker 3: gun chops in the in the quarter because Eddie Kingson
Speaker 3: absolutely beats the living hell out of himself. It doesn't
Speaker 3: it doesn't touch his opponent at all. So that's that's
Speaker 3: a push off. That's a mood for move for Jake Doyle.
Speaker 3: I just think that's funny. I do But does everybody
Speaker 3: kind of agree here that John Mosley is going all
Speaker 3: in as the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope he doesn't win with the.
Speaker 3: Really okay, well, I mean when you look at the
Speaker 3: other I mean, obviously it's not a true bracket, so
Speaker 3: we don't know how the others are going to come
Speaker 3: out of the hat. But uh yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 3: who would you if whatever? But who would you like
Speaker 3: to see John box face it all in for the
Speaker 3: Continental Challenge Cup and Continental Championship? J White, Jay White?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, my top three in order? J White, Tyle, O'Reilly, Claudia.
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, Claudia would be interesting.
Speaker 2: Orange Cassidy is really who I like to get it back.
Speaker 2: He deserves a tie, after all, he's done for being
Speaker 2: on the mid card lower rain.
Speaker 1: I would like to see the Monday's Yesterday's reveal. I
Speaker 1: would have liked to see these names pulled out live.
Speaker 1: Give me a give me a gimmicked hat, but you know.
Speaker 7: Make uh Jagguars helmet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jaguars hat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just asking for too much technical knowledge that
Speaker 3: I you know, to get that done. I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: I would have loved to see the two and have
Speaker 3: to mess it up.
Speaker 7: You know, you could have literally just had blank pieces
Speaker 7: of paper and he says the name for the matter.
Speaker 3: But they would they would have had the turn, They
Speaker 3: would have had to turn it around and showed it
Speaker 3: to the camera. Well, what I would kind of like
Speaker 3: to've seen, whether they did a draw like that or not,
Speaker 3: is that you say, Okay, twenty four men have put
Speaker 3: their names into consideration for the Continental Challenge Cup and
Speaker 3: we're going to only draw sixteens or eight of them
Speaker 3: are going to be disappointed. I kind of like that
Speaker 3: because then you have eight guys who are kind of
Speaker 3: pissed off, and that's that story, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can have one of them go like, okay,
Speaker 7: I want to face you know, anyone who loses in
Speaker 7: the first round to prove, you know, I'm just as
Speaker 7: good as them. There's something or you'd be like, what
Speaker 7: about us? What do we do? Like give us matches
Speaker 7: or you know, there's a lot you could have done.
Speaker 1: With little yeah, minor minor criticism. Also, I don't think
Speaker 1: Continental Challenge Cup rolls off the tongue as nicely as
Speaker 1: just Continental Cup. Maybe they didn't want to do two
Speaker 1: C two's, but right, I don't I don't particularly like
Speaker 1: the challenge where.
Speaker 3: It so is this would this be a C two
Speaker 3: square C three? Yeah, C three that is. But anyway,
Speaker 3: let's move on to our last segment. Should be a
Speaker 3: quick segment, but I think it's something fun and that
Speaker 3: is Hazuki has gotten over big in the United States
Speaker 3: with a W fans in particular, she's been on excursion
Speaker 3: for July and August and I've seen a lot of
Speaker 3: aw fans saying that Azuki should be the first Stardom
Speaker 3: wrestler to be signed to a dual contract. People love her,
Speaker 3: of course, she is basic Athena at Death before Dishonor
Speaker 3: and I don't know if anybody feels like Hazuki is
Speaker 3: actually going to win this, but it I don't think
Speaker 3: anybody can deny that Azuki is killing it in in
Speaker 3: in a w and in you know, United States and
Speaker 3: Canada when she's appeared. And then you look at Julia
Speaker 3: Hart and the work that she's been doing in Japan
Speaker 3: and Stardom. She's the artist is Stardom Champion with Teckla
Speaker 3: and sky Blue, which is their Trios Championship, and then
Speaker 3: she is in the five Star Grand Prix, which she
Speaker 3: just wrestled three nights in a row, which is amazing.
Speaker 3: She is three and one in the five Star Grand Prix.
Speaker 3: She's got six points because you get two points where
Speaker 3: every win, one point for drawing, no points for a loss.
Speaker 3: She is currently in position to advance in the five
Speaker 3: Star Grand Prix. She has three more matches, one against
Speaker 3: Suzu Suzuki, the world champion in Stardom, and a couple
Speaker 3: of matches beyond that that she could possibly win. But
Speaker 3: the thing is is that, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you ever watched Stardom or Jeopanese wrestling in in general,
Speaker 3: but when these wrestlers come out to the ring, you
Speaker 3: can literally hear pin drop. There's no pops in Japan.
Speaker 3: They're very respectful to the performance art that these wrestlers
Speaker 3: are doing. I would be the same as a pop
Speaker 3: for somebody playing the theme from Titanic in an orchestra.
Speaker 3: You know, you just don't do it. And that's kind
Speaker 3: of the way Japan approaches professional wrestling. But somehow, some way,
Speaker 3: Julia has somehow got that the crowds in Japan to
Speaker 3: just chant her name loudly and boo at the same time.
Speaker 3: She's really come into her own and she's doing well
Speaker 3: in stardom, and frankly, I'd like to see Julia Hart
Speaker 3: stay in stardom kind of like the way Megan Bain
Speaker 3: did the end of last year in the beginning of
Speaker 3: this year, where she was going back and forth, she
Speaker 3: was making a mark and Mega Baby became a better
Speaker 3: wrestler because of it. And Julia Hart is definitely coming
Speaker 3: into I've seen her first match was Julia you know, slow, methodical,
Speaker 3: kind of boring, but she's been doing different moves. He's learning,
Speaker 3: she's doing stuff and getting a lot of oohs and
Speaker 3: ahs from the crowd, and it's very popular. I mean,
Speaker 3: do an exchange Azuki for Julia Hart? Why not? I'm
Speaker 3: not talking about changing companies. I'm talking about longer excursions.
Speaker 3: I mean, how do you how do you feel about
Speaker 3: Azuki and AW and and have you watched Julia Hart
Speaker 3: in stardom?
Speaker 7: Love me? Said Zuki id minutally. I hadn't seen a
Speaker 7: lot of her before she uh showed up in AW.
Speaker 7: I'd seen the Mercedes Mommee match, of course, because it's
Speaker 7: freaking awesome. Go watch that match if you can. UH
Speaker 7: and a couple of times in Stardom and I knew
Speaker 7: she was good, but aw, like, I feel like you've
Speaker 7: got to see a bit more of her personality, even
Speaker 7: though you know, she hasn't done any promos, but it's
Speaker 7: been there with the ring work and the crowd work
Speaker 7: and all that. Yeah, I would love to see her
Speaker 7: stick around. And I haven't seen any of Julia Hart's
Speaker 7: matches in Stardom. I just if I could afford it,
Speaker 7: I would absolutely watch Stardom. But it's just one of
Speaker 7: those budgets tight right now.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: I have seen clips the when she was trapped in
Speaker 7: the submission and like calling out to the crowd for
Speaker 7: help and everything.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: That was funny and good, but it's still kept with
Speaker 7: her overall gimmicks, you know, like like I think allowing
Speaker 7: her to add in a little bit of that fun
Speaker 7: like Tekla has done, Like you know, you don't have
Speaker 7: to be so dark and mysterious and spooky, like you
Speaker 7: can still be a badass, but you know, also do
Speaker 7: a comedy bit every now and then.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 7: And yeah, I saw her entrance and the crowds like
Speaker 7: panning for her. I saw like some people singing along
Speaker 7: to her song and stuff. Yeah, it would definitely be
Speaker 7: a first.
Speaker 3: It's weird because that kind that kind of thing just
Speaker 3: does not happen in stardom, and to have people chanting
Speaker 3: like that. Usually you'll hear people call out their favorite
Speaker 3: wrestlers names during a match, like at the very beginning,
Speaker 3: but you don't see here organized chance, and that's that's something.
Speaker 3: By the way, Jay Rojas says, what Ivazuki did beat
Speaker 3: Athena and then they announced the dual contract on the
Speaker 3: Titan Tron like they did for Mysticohy before. Yeah, I mean, frankly,
Speaker 3: Hazuki is one of the I mean, obviously she's young
Speaker 3: and beautiful, but she is one of the older wrestlers
Speaker 3: on the roster. She's definitely in the top third in age.
Speaker 3: I mean she's only like, what thirty or something like that,
Speaker 3: but which is incredible. But you also have to keep
Speaker 3: in mind that Kazuki probably started wrestling in twenty two
Speaker 3: thousand and three or something. I don't know when she
Speaker 3: was four months olders, I don't know so, but but
Speaker 3: that's still pretty old. She's still pretty old for when
Speaker 3: you look at the uh, look at the roster and stardom,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a Poy is retiring on January third,
Speaker 3: at the age of thirty one. Yeah.
Speaker 7: She debuted in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she did you at the same time
Speaker 3: in the same year as a Zoomie and Starlight Kid.
Speaker 3: Keep in mind Starlight Kid at a Zoomie or still
Speaker 3: I think they're twenty four and they started they were
Speaker 3: wrestling at twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: You know, So yeah, you know this is this is
Speaker 1: something I love for a younger talent and and something
Speaker 1: very special to AW. I think they AW puts younger
Speaker 1: people in a position to be able to do this.
Speaker 1: I I was kind of down on Julia. I thought
Speaker 1: her her striking was just kind of lackluster, and I
Speaker 1: thought she was getting passed up by basically the entire roster.
Speaker 1: I agree, and watching her confidence in the five Star
Speaker 1: is absolutely changing my mind on her. I think I
Speaker 1: think she's realizing that this is a contact sport, you know,
Speaker 1: because before I think she was maybe a little afraid
Speaker 1: to make contact. And you know, AW doesn't have I
Speaker 1: mean they have ro o h, but we don't have
Speaker 1: an NXT, so why not send you know, Julia Harts
Speaker 1: all those young guys that we don't see on TV,
Speaker 1: put them in house shows, in in CMLL and stardom
Speaker 1: and uh, you know the Japanese indie scene. You know,
Speaker 1: there's so many connections to be made there and so
Speaker 1: much to learn.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think, of course you you uh, what's the saying.
Speaker 1: You grind your teeth, you cut your teeth where you can,
Speaker 1: but then you're given an opportunity to learn so much
Speaker 1: more from across the world. And that's the AW veterans
Speaker 1: we have today. So I want to see this more
Speaker 1: from AW to give us that next generation. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody that we talk about banger matches with have had
Speaker 1: this experience, and you know, I hope, I hope h
Speaker 1: we don't have a gap in that experience for younger talent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Chris, go ahead.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, I wish AW would send at
Speaker 7: least one, but ideally two wrestlers or teams for every
Speaker 7: tournament in New Japan and start.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know it's not so easy because you know, we've
Speaker 1: got to remember Julia Hart's to fill in for b Priestley.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that CMLO would just take somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, if they're there to job at some house shows,
Speaker 1: it still gets in the experience.
Speaker 3: But well, you Hazuki has wrestled a lot in CML
Speaker 3: out this, you know in the last year.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm more so talking about younger AW talent. You know,
Speaker 1: like we have Alex Price and Oliver forget his name.
Speaker 1: I know, the attack team in GCWU the brain, but
Speaker 1: the bust and the brain, you know, I think that
Speaker 1: talent sign that you know. I don't know their full
Speaker 1: indie schedule, but if they get a gap, you know,
Speaker 1: go to Wallacata, go to Puela, Mexico and just fucking
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, just have you know, matches and learn
Speaker 1: a different style.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. One thing I will say about the
Speaker 3: whole thing in stardom right now is that stardom is
Speaker 3: such a different animal than AW. I mean, AAW is
Speaker 3: known for brutality, but in many ways, especially the women's division,
Speaker 3: they straight up beat the crap out of each other
Speaker 3: at Stardom. The thing is that I mentioned earlier was
Speaker 3: that Stardom crowds are definitely more quiet. I mean they're
Speaker 3: absolutely quiet during most of a match. They will ooh
Speaker 3: and ah and they will clap, but for the most
Speaker 3: part during a ten minute match, you're gonna have nine
Speaker 3: minutes of total silence, basically eerie silence, which means when
Speaker 3: you throw a drop kick or a forearm shiver or
Speaker 3: a punch, you can't fake it. They land and you
Speaker 3: hear thuds. Because there's certain things that they do that
Speaker 3: maybe they do use the thigh slap, but when they're
Speaker 3: standing toe to toe with each other, there's no thigh slapping.
Speaker 3: They are beating the crap out of each other. They
Speaker 3: just have to know how to take how to throw
Speaker 3: the punch, and they have to know how to take
Speaker 3: it because they get you know, their upper chest and
Speaker 3: you know and shoulder, you know, between the neck and
Speaker 3: the upper chest. They get brutalized during during the matches,
Speaker 3: and these are they're thuds. I mean literally here go ahead.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I've been lucky enough to go
Speaker 1: to a Saturday show at ANCLO in Mexico City and
Speaker 1: the heat, the absolute just you think Don Kallas gets
Speaker 1: a tough time on the MIC. I mean, the Mexican
Speaker 1: fans and the design of that building. It's the Saturday show.
Speaker 1: It I guess it's a little more of a house show,
Speaker 1: but it's just as important. I saw jets beed there
Speaker 1: a couple months ago, and you know the at the time,
Speaker 1: the baby is the babyfaces, and I mean this crowd
Speaker 1: was relentless to them. I think that's just as for
Speaker 1: performing for a quiet Japanese crowd. I think it's just
Speaker 1: as important as performing for a absolutely rabid.
Speaker 3: Mexican Generating the proper heat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's invaluable experience for a younger wrestler.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean if they if people want to cheer
Speaker 3: you or cheer you, you got to give them a
Speaker 3: reason to do it. And if you're not getting the
Speaker 3: jeers or the cheers, then you're failing. Yeah. So anybody else,
Speaker 3: So any opinions on Azuki in aw and Julia Hart
Speaker 3: and stardom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would jump in because Chris, you can watch
Speaker 4: Julia on YouTube on the stardom startom paid because this
Speaker 4: is where I found her matches on the ground prex
Speaker 4: and I've discovered a new form of what's the term joshi.
Speaker 6: So I love this, I really do. And I'm so
Speaker 6: so happy for Julia. I think she's gonna do great.
Speaker 6: I've seen the three matches that she has done and
Speaker 6: she's fantastic. Over there and everybody that isn't that tournament.
Speaker 6: I don't know anything about them, and I'm just seeing
Speaker 6: a whole new bunch of women wrestlers in Japan, So
Speaker 6: this is really cool.
Speaker 4: And Azuki, oh my gosh. I fell in love with
Speaker 4: her the moment I saw her in a w and
Speaker 4: I became a fan.
Speaker 6: I did not watch the match against Mercedes, and I
Speaker 6: know that.
Speaker 4: I should, but sign me up. I wanted Zucchi a
Speaker 4: w asap.
Speaker 3: Please do yourself a favor, Bell if you haven't done it,
Speaker 3: to start them. I think the Stardom World is a
Speaker 3: YouTube channel that just started. They put the entire match.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you okay, but I.
Speaker 4: Saw I saw Julia's matches there on the YouTube.
Speaker 3: That's that's That's that startum Official. Startom World did have
Speaker 3: the entire five star GP from a few nights ago.
Speaker 3: They put the entire entire thing on there. But if
Speaker 3: you haven't seen the match, if you want to fall
Speaker 3: in love with women's wrestling knowing nothing at all about
Speaker 3: these wrestlers, go watch Saya Kamatani versus tam Nakano from
Speaker 3: the from the what was it dream No All Star
Speaker 3: All Star Grand Queendom from last April. I can't watch
Speaker 3: that match. I can't. I cannot watch that match and
Speaker 3: not get emotional. It's I've watched it twenty times and
Speaker 3: I missed up every time. In the Stardom g Stardom
Speaker 3: World on YouTube has that entire match up in its
Speaker 3: entirety from the entrances, the absolutely stunning entrances until just
Speaker 3: the most emotional match throughout and the ending, and it
Speaker 3: was the last match in the pay per view and
Speaker 3: how they entered the pay per view was absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 3: This match is how I believe as far as women's
Speaker 3: matches go, and it is the gold standard of any
Speaker 3: women's match. How to do a production. Maybe not as
Speaker 3: far as maybe the match itself you could find just
Speaker 3: as good, but as far as from the beginning to
Speaker 3: the end, the production, the emotion, the intensity cannot be beat.
Speaker 3: Go watch Saya Kamatani versus Tam Decano from the All
Speaker 3: Star Grand Queendom of twenty twenty five. It's absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 3: And I will say this, remember Julia Hart is the
Speaker 3: Artist's Stardom Champion with Techlin sky Blue, now the Techlan
Speaker 3: is not the world champion. Don't be shocked. Don't be
Speaker 3: shocked if you have the triangle madness against neogenesis or
Speaker 3: cosmic angels at all in in a match at all
Speaker 3: in for the artists' starting championship, and I think stardom
Speaker 3: deserves it and I would love to see it.
Speaker 7: I would be very happy about that. It's techinitely. If
Speaker 7: it's not made into it threat, this seems less and
Speaker 7: less likely.
Speaker 3: Well, look to wrap things up because we're going a
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Speaker 3: a really great show.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it and had some laughs, and I think
Speaker 3: we had a pretty good discussion tonight.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was fun. I agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, we will be back next week
Speaker 3: Tuesday night. We will be back for Ignition eight forty
Speaker 3: five Eastern time. We'll probably be talking about the Continental
Speaker 3: Challenge Cup, but probably a little bit more at length
Speaker 3: because those first six matches will be done on Collision,
Speaker 3: so we'll have a lot to talk about. See you
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Speaker 3: until then, this is Kelson. Good night everybody, Good night, Kenny,
Speaker 3: good night, Good good night Eddie. We love you Eddie Kingston. Right,
Speaker 3: Chris