WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.960 And nine Ignition. 2 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:13.400 Five four three two one zero engine running. 3 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:24.280 It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for 4 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:29.960 Ignition with the aw fan Hubb Community podcast team. We're 5 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.560 gonna be talking about some aw hot topics and of 6 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:38.399 course Grand Slam Mexico. And this show is gonna be 7 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:43.359 a little bit different because I honestly believe that everything 8 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:46.920 that we're gonna talk about tonight comes full circle. I 9 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:51.039 think everything relates to everything else. It should be a 10 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:54.039 very interesting show. And I do want to also say 11 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:59.719 that if you're in the chat, please say hello and participate, 12 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.960 share your opinions. We will see them, we will put 13 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.000 them up on the screen. I want to thank everybody 14 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:11.359 that has also recently joined us on x We got 15 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:14.599 a lot of new subscribers there and we appreciate it. 16 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:19.000 And let's get on with the show. 17 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:25.280 This is Kelson, good evening, aw fan Hub community. This 18 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:29.680 is Valve from Montreal. So if you want to, if you. 19 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:35.280 Want to go to the AEW fan hub subreddit or 20 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:41.840 the a the EPW discord and joining the chat. Every 21 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:48.239 time that airs an aw Dynamite collision and pay per view, 22 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:50.159 feel free to join. 23 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:54.200 We all hear every time. 24 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:57.359 And it's a lot, a lot of fun, so please 25 00:01:57.480 --> 00:01:59.879 go on in and subscribe. 26 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:03.159 Yeah, I mean it's all fore of course aw patub subreddit. 27 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:04.760 The chat box is right at the top of the 28 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:10.319 subreddit and on the Everything Pro Wrestling Hub discord right now. 29 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:15.560 It's named the live chat is named Grand Slam Mexico Live. 30 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:17.560 Very easy to find. 31 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:25.800 Chela. Howdy folks, this is Chris, and after you join 32 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.560 us for the live chat, you should come and join 33 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:32.919 in on the fun with our buddies Conrad and Derek 34 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:38.199 at the EPW show on YouTube for their Dynamite review 35 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:41.840 Grand Slam Mexico tomorrow night. It is a two and 36 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:45.719 a half hour show, and I don't think anyone will 37 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:50.800 be shocked if we get a pretty decent overrun. So 38 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.319 it'll be a little bit later start time for their review, 39 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:57.280 but they are always good, probably about ten minutes after 40 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:01.680 the show typically, so it's joined them. It's a lot 41 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:05.520 of fun. They're really great about, you know, following the 42 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:11.960 chat and following out like fans and comments and all 43 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.319 that stuff. It's a great show. Hopefully I know I'll 44 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:18.199 be there. Hopefully I'll see y'all there. 45 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:22.400 Yeah, so let's go ahead and talk about Grand Slam Mexico. 46 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.680 Now we're going to be talking about some individual stuff 47 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:30.360 in this almost said pay per view. It really is 48 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.520 kind of a pay per view. It does have that 49 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:35.639 feel to it, doesn't it. Don't you get that impression 50 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:37.479 that this is almost a pay per view? 51 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:42.719 Yes, yeah, definitely gives that that feeling. You know, AW 52 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:46.199 does a decent amount of these. They're almost like many 53 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:50.400 pay per views, but on free TV because Tony Kahn 54 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:51.719 likes to spoil us. 55 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:55.000 Yeah, you know, I kind of admit something I've often 56 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:59.639 like thought, and it's not like a prevalent thought, but 57 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.960 I'm like, man, Tony com puts these banger shows on 58 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:07.319 free TV. He's got to really do something special on 59 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:09.439 these pay per views to make it not seem it's 60 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:11.599 like another TV show, you know what I mean? 61 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.240 You know I do, And a lot of times he does, 62 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.759 like these mini pay per views are so good and 63 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:21.199 then the pay per views are somehow even better. Like 64 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:25.759 I'll admit it, I'm a big fan. I like everything 65 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:29.480 that he, well, mostly everything at AW is doing right now. 66 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:33.120 Right, Flyboy rex Over in the chat says, sios unite 67 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:38.519 absolutely just in a broad general term, what do you guys, 68 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:42.639 think of this Grand Slam Mexico card is a Do 69 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:47.319 you see this as a overall positive or is there 70 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.079 things on here that you're you know, scratching your head about. 71 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:54.040 I personally think this is a really, really really interesting card. 72 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:55.319 What about you, guys? 73 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:56.040 It is? 74 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:56.839 It is? 75 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:01.279 I'm excited for Speedball versus Kyle that sure tomorrow night 76 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:05.079 it's gonna be a banger bang or bang or banger. 77 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:05.879 Gonna be fun. 78 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:09.319 Anybody else with any opinions on Grand Slam Mexico's card 79 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:13.720 before we actually get into the meat, but the discussion. 80 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:17.279 I think everything makes sense and everything excuse me, everything 81 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:21.720 makes sense, and I think this is something, especially for 82 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:25.480 a life crowd in Mexico to look forward to. I 83 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.759 expect it to be very loud shout out to Detroit 84 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:34.120 from last week, but I think Mexico City might take it. 85 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:36.000 As far as the crowd involvement. 86 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:39.519 Yeah, I am really looking forward to this show. 87 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:41.879 Chris Chris let mkay speak. 88 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:45.120 He's been trying to stay It's all right. I have 89 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:49.079 a habit of and our people too. I think it's great. 90 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:51.040 The only thing I'm not looking forward to really is 91 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:55.399 the eight man tag. But other than that. I think 92 00:05:55.399 --> 00:06:00.480 it's stacked. Tony has built a pretty good card. Speaking 93 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.480 of meat, I'm interested in the Mark Davis versus Will 94 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:06.759 Ospray match. A big, big old boy going against Will. 95 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:08.319 Uh. 96 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:11.079 It should be a good match, all. 97 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:13.600 Right, Chris, What were you to say by Yeah, I 98 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:16.199 was just gonna say I'm really excited for this card, 99 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:23.040 especially Fletcher versus s Feedball. That Trios match is really 100 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:28.680 interesting just because Mistico, Jericho and Darby Allen is the 101 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:33.920 weirdest team on paper. But I feel like it's gonna 102 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:34.800 somehow work. 103 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.959 Well. It could have been more weird if you replace 104 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:39.600 Jericho with Dalton Castle. 105 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:43.160 Yeah, definitely would have been more buoyant. 106 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:47.800 But look, let's get into the meat of the show 107 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:51.199 because I have a theory. I do have a theory, 108 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.160 and I want to see if you think that I'm correct. 109 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:59.759 The Demand were the Trios champions champions until the Good, 110 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:05.000 Bad and the Ugly you know came out and said, hey, 111 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:10.120 you know, we're a team now. So the Demand just 112 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:15.519 got the championship from the conglomeration. Do you think my theory. 113 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:20.199 Is that the Demand won the championship over the conglomerations 114 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:23.720 just so they could have this trios match at Arena Mexico, 115 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.439 because who's more popular in Arena Mexico. 116 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:32.279 In aw than Bandido, Brody King and Hangman and and Paige. 117 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:36.199 You remember what happened the last time Grand Slam Mexico 118 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:39.199 last year, Brody King and Hangman and the Page knocked 119 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:41.800 it out of the park, you remember. So I'm thinking 120 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:46.000 that the Demand won this championship simply so they could 121 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:50.040 go on to Grand Slam Mexico and immediately lose it 122 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:53.759 to the good, the Bad, and the ugly. What do 123 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:58.040 you guys think of my theory? Not that at all. 124 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:02.680 I'm just saying I love Fantido, Broby King, Hangman Page, like, 125 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:06.519 those guys are awesome. I like the trio, but Man 126 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:09.680 to Demand are my favorite trio in aw right now, 127 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:13.480 and I don't want to see them be transitional Prios 128 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.680 champions like I've wanted them to win those titles for 129 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.839 a while and have a nice long reign with many 130 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:28.160 defenses and help bring that prestige back up that hasn't 131 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:32.960 really been there until the conglomeration. They definitely help bring 132 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:36.159 raise the level of the trios titles, and I think 133 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:40.480 the Demand can do that, So I really hope they win. 134 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:43.480 I'd like to see the Demand cheat to win or 135 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:46.840 something and then have this matchup, have a rematch it 136 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.279 all in. I think that would be spectacular and then 137 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:50.919 let the good the bad deadly have it. 138 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.120 I agree. I don't want I don't want the Demand 139 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:56.360 to lose it just yet. Me myself, I'm not a big, 140 00:08:57.159 --> 00:09:02.440 big man wrestling kind of guy, but the like I guess, 141 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:06.240 uh to Leona and Bishop Kahn. I mean, they they're 142 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:08.960 kind of rocking with it right now, and with Ricochet 143 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.600 Air as their mouthpiece, I think it's perfect. I'm having 144 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:15.320 a lot of fun with them. But I don't put 145 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.919 this theory past anything. I think this, I think it 146 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:22.360 makes sense. Although Adam Page has only had really two 147 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:26.399 on screen moments in the past couple of weeks and 148 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:28.399 so I don't. 149 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:29.720 Know, it's been a while since he's wrestled. 150 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:32.679 Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's very earned at 151 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:35.320 this point. All we know is that he wants to 152 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:40.639 go for every title other than the AW World Heavyweight Championship. 153 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.840 Makes sense for him, But I don't know, maybe maybe 154 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:44.519 too early. 155 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:46.639 Matt, do you have an opinion. 156 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:50.200 I would like to see the Demand keep the belts 157 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:53.720 for a while. I mean, who doesn't love Hangman? But 158 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.639 I I just like the Demand being Trio's champions. I 159 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:02.039 think that they're very, very good. It seemed to me 160 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:05.559 that it took a while for them to find their 161 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:09.240 place together at first, at least for me, I was 162 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:13.399 wondering what they were doing together. Seemed a little bit 163 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:18.679 of a mismatch when they brought Ricochet in, because if 164 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.679 you remember, the Demand was hanging out with Swerve, so 165 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:24.840 it seemed like they were. 166 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:25.799 Lost for a while. 167 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:29.320 And I would just like to see them as Trio's champions. 168 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:33.519 I don't want to see them become transitional champions anytime soon. 169 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:37.960 And like someone else said, we can revisit this maybe 170 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.759 at all. In that's it's my take on it. 171 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:45.559 By the way, I do want to say something here. 172 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:49.720 What I during Dynamite, I wasn't What did the Good, 173 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:52.639 the Bad, and the Ugly come out was a dynamite collision. 174 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:55.360 When they introduced. 175 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:57.840 Themselves Dynamite at the there. 176 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:02.080 Well, when we were taking this as a joke, Wolf 177 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:06.240 sent me the Good, Bad and the Ugly graphic with 178 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:14.720 like a animated render of the three wrestlers, and I 179 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:17.840 took it and I did a little bit of photoshop. 180 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:21.279 Took me about fifteen minutes that I came up with 181 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.200 this graphic that you're seeing on the screen right now. 182 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:26.960 Of course, if you're listening to this on audio, you 183 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:30.399 can't see it. But it was interesting because it got 184 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.159 a whole lot of likes and was real popular on 185 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:38.000 social media, except for one thing. People were saying, why 186 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:40.240 is Adam Page the ugly? 187 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:41.679 I was wondering that too. 188 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:47.000 There's an explanation here in the Spaghetti Westerns. And I'm 189 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:50.480 old enough to have been alive when these movies were 190 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:54.960 actually being released. In the Italian version of this, which 191 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:58.639 is this is the Spaghetti Westerns means it's an Italian Western. 192 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:05.639 Sergeio Leone is a Italian director, you know, for Italian movies. Anyway. 193 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:12.440 The actual Italian title is The Good, the Ugly, and 194 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:17.679 the Bad. So the actuality in this graphic, Bad Dido 195 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:21.519 is the good, Brody King is in fact the ugly, 196 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:26.840 and Adam Page is the bad. He's kind of set 197 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:30.480 that straight because there are a lot of people. There 198 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:32.440 were a lot of people that were like, how could 199 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:36.519 you possibly you know? They're being you know, funny about it. 200 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:39.320 They were comical It wasn't like people were actually upset, 201 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:41.639 you know, but how could you say that the heckman 202 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.240 of pages, you know, the ugly he's so beautiful. 203 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.559 And I'm like, okay, you know, I thought you might 204 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:51.240 have been going for irony, like you know, when a 205 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:54.919 six foot five, three hundred pound guy is called tiny. 206 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:01.519 Now, no, it is the truth. Gattivo is based the 207 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.799 bad the translation. 208 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:08.200 For something to add about the titles, And I don't 209 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:10.759 know if you guys feel the same way, but I 210 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:15.399 feel like the trios titles are kind of a stepping 211 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:20.039 stone title. So I personally did not like the conglomeration 212 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:24.840 as Trios Trios champions. I think having two young guys 213 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:31.120 currently in in in to Leona and Bishop Khan, having 214 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:35.320 two younger guys as Trios champions, I think just that's 215 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:39.279 what the championship should be. I don't think any of 216 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:44.080 these three Bendido, Brodie, King and Hangman need these titles 217 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:47.360 to to, you know, really do anything for themselves. 218 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:49.720 Well, no, I agree with you what you said a 219 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.919 stepping stone title. Did you mean kind of like a 220 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:54.039 mid card title? 221 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:57.759 Mid card but also it gives a chance to some 222 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:01.720 younger talent to kind of you know, take some gold 223 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:05.559 and run with it however they can, and see see 224 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:08.399 what they can do with it. As someone that may 225 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:09.200 be a little newer. 226 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:11.960 Yeah, I mean, you know, when I came up with 227 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.120 my theory about this match in particular, I mean I 228 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.080 was just going for a fan service. I mean, if 229 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.559 you have the good de bat and the ugly I 230 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:23.279 love calling these that group that. Uh, if you have 231 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:25.639 them win at Arena Mexico, the crowd is going to 232 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:29.080 go insane. They're going to lose their minds. I mean 233 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:31.799 we know that, and that's probably what they're going for here. 234 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.720 If they do, in fact win the titles and become 235 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:37.799 Trios champions, well man. 236 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:42.120 The heat the command would especially if they cheat to 237 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:46.519 win it. Ah, some booze would rain down. You may 238 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:47.960 see some trash thrown. 239 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:48.480 Like. 240 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:53.240 The heat they would get would be unreal. And I'm 241 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:59.159 just waiting for the inevitable. Brodie Kings, Toto Leona stare down, 242 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:02.879 you know, meet in the middle, bounce off each other, 243 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:06.120 host battle greatness. 244 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:08.919 You know, I do want to say one more thing 245 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:13.639 about this graphic that I found funny. Some people were 246 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:17.279 actually saying to me, why does Brody King have a gun? 247 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:21.600 But I'm like, okay, well, the original poster basically had 248 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:24.840 a gun, you know, so they all had guns, I think. 249 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:29.240 But anyway, I found it interesting because there's that little 250 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.639 in the bottom right hand corner to Brody king grat 251 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.759 there's a gun, right but not a single person said 252 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:38.600 anything about the gigantic hole in the middle of his abdomen. 253 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:46.759 I'm like, it's like nobody brought up the big gunshot hole, 254 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:49.360 you know, in the middle of his abdomen. I was like, 255 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.159 I thought it was clever nobody noticed it, so I 256 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.919 thought I pointed out AW fans, the least observant fans 257 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:02.279 on the planet. But remember I said that what we 258 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:04.679 were going to talk about was going to come full circle, 259 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:08.519 and it really does, because the next thing I want 260 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:16.600 to talk about is this AWS ten Championship belts. There 261 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:19.840 have been six title. Six of those belts have changed 262 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:24.240 hands in the last thirty days, and when you think 263 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:28.320 about it, I'm not sure if it's within thirty days, 264 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:30.519 but it'd be pretty close. If Keny Omega loses the 265 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.279 will Osbury, you know, on the thirtieth at all, in 266 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:42.000 that's another title change. So when you look at the good, 267 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.360 the bad, and the Ugly possibly winning the trios titles 268 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:49.320 at Grand Slam Mexico. It kind of fits right into 269 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.600 what AAW has been doing. Do you like the fact 270 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:55.759 that AAW I use the term hot potatoes? It probably 271 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:58.960 wasn't really good term to use, But do you like 272 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:02.799 the fact that AW is hot potatoing their titles so much? 273 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.440 Because when you look at it, they are changing hands 274 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:07.559 really fast? 275 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:12.279 Well, I think the only ones that have really been 276 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:17.480 hot potato is really the world title and the TBS 277 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:18.240 to an extent. 278 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:23.640 But on that and Chris Chris, it's a fact that 279 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:26.480 six of the title of the ten, six of the 280 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.319 ten belts had changed hands in the last thirty days. 281 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:34.599 Yes, I understand that, but hot potato kind of means 282 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.519 like they change from one person to the next to 283 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.799 the next within that thirty days. But that's only true 284 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:47.559 with the AW and the TBS. With the International Tickets 285 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:50.640 had a solid run with the belt before dropping it 286 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:55.200 to Fletcher. The Conglomeration had a solid run with the trios. 287 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:58.960 Heexla had a very good run with the women's title. 288 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.960 Davis had a solid run with the national title, the 289 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.960 TBF title I've always said it, and the TNT I 290 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.920 like it more as a kind of TV type title, 291 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:14.640 so I don't mind when those change hands, you know, 292 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:20.519 relative with a relatively short rain, because hopefully we're getting 293 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:25.240 four or five six defenses before that title thing. The 294 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:29.680 only one I really haven't liked it with is the 295 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:36.240 AW World title. Like if Omega versus Off Pray was 296 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:42.160 always the plan, Omega should have won it at the 297 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:46.519 previous pay per view where he faced MJF and we 298 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:50.880 could have just I like Darby's brain, but we could 299 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:51.720 have gone without. 300 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:56.079 Yeah, okay, then that's fair enough. Let's hear from other people. 301 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.599 Do you guys think that this trend WORAW is changing 302 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.920 titles rather quickly, should continue or do you want to 303 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:05.839 see some longer title reigns. 304 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:11.319 I like the switching. I think as long as as 305 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:14.480 long as it's not so obvious that they're doing it 306 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.240 for all in, you know, if they continue to do this, 307 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:22.799 I like it. I don't particularly like super long reigns. 308 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:26.839 I don't know if you guys are fans of Luca Underground, 309 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.119 but I had a lot of fun with that show, 310 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:35.480 and that's because they weren't very afraid to switch up titles. 311 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:39.920 I think giving that identity to aw would be really funk. 312 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:42.640 You were about to say something I have. 313 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:44.240 The only one I have a problem with really is 314 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:48.440 the TBS taking it off of Willow because of health reasons, 315 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:53.160 but then a month later, you know, and then she 316 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:56.519 did get it and then gets taken off Sheida. That 317 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:58.720 was kind of weird to me. But that's really the 318 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:01.640 only one that stands out out to me. I understand 319 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:03.960 the need because of an MJF injury to put it 320 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:09.000 on Kenny Omega where they did. I can't Mark Davis. 321 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:10.799 I had to disagree with Chris. He said Mark Davis 322 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:12.680 had a good run with it. I don't remember him 323 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.799 having that many good matches and that will have a 324 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.720 run with it. But no, I don't like the habitating 325 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:19.279 on myself. 326 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:22.079 I'm not a big fan of long title reigns. I've 327 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:25.759 said that before on this on this podcast. But I'm 328 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:33.359 I'm a little bit I'm not concerned, but wondering why 329 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:38.039 we're doing such quick especially like with the world title. 330 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:41.559 I mean, you went from MGF to Darby Allen, to MGF, 331 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:46.599 to Kenny Omega and now probably to to will Osprey. 332 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:49.440 I'm interested to see what when we put up the 333 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:52.599 prediction polls about ten days before we're all in to 334 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:57.720 see what the aw fan hub community he thinks of 335 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:02.599 that particular match, because I want to see how many 336 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:07.160 people actually give Kenny Omega a shot at retaining. But anyway, 337 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:11.000 you know, I'm not I'm not adverse to titles changing, 338 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:13.920 especially like the TBS title and the TNT channel title, 339 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:18.759 which are open challenge TV titles. Basically, I don't have 340 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:21.319 a problem with those changing, but I do kind of 341 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:25.200 have a problem with, uh, you know, the World Championships 342 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:29.400 on both the women's and the women's sides changing hands. 343 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:34.160 We haven't heard from val or Net on this topic yet. 344 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:35.480 I'd like to hear what they have to say. 345 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:41.400 Sorry, I don't mind the titles changing hands. It gives 346 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:47.799 everybody a chance to compete and it makes it a 347 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:52.200 little more exciting. I do wish they had them a 348 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.839 little while longer, especially on the women's side. 349 00:21:57.079 --> 00:21:57.559 I don't know. 350 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:00.960 So I don't know. I'm can fuse from what they're 351 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.759 doing and how it's going, I have I have yet 352 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:07.160 to form a really good opinion on it. I think 353 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:09.200 I don't know. 354 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:12.279 I really do think that if this trend of the titles, 355 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:16.079 you know, changing hands fairly quickly continues for the rest 356 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:18.680 of the year. I think people will stand up and notice, 357 00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:22.559 you know, and maybe some people may even complain that 358 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:26.920 it diminishes the titles. I don't think so, but you know, 359 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:29.079 you kind of do have to listen to what the 360 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:31.759 what the fans say, and you know, as far as 361 00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:34.160 that goes, Val, did you have an opinion? 362 00:22:35.319 --> 00:22:37.400 Yeah, I'm kind of I kind of agree with net 363 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:43.000 a little bit. I don't like longer rings, just like Kelson. 364 00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:47.440 I don't like being chap someone being championed for over 365 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:53.880 a year or so, like MJF was. But I agree 366 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:54.759 with Chris on. 367 00:22:55.240 --> 00:23:00.559 The aw World Champion. Kenny should have won at Dynesty 368 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:05.440 in my opinion and skip the Darby ring that that's 369 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:09.160 my opinion, but it's very very difficult for me to 370 00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:13.759 have an opinion on it based on what I'm seeing. 371 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:18.400 It needs for me to make sense, and for now 372 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:19.160 it doesn't. 373 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:21.160 So I'll wait and see. 374 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:23.319 Yeah, you know, you brought up a good point with 375 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:25.839 MGF and is what was it four hundred and Yeah, 376 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:27.559 I want to say four hundred and six. I probably 377 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:32.240 got a run. But anyway, that kind of tole rain 378 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:36.839 is different to me, because MGF is just a polarizing character. 379 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:41.240 He when he defended it was an event, you know 380 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:46.160 what I mean, whereas somebody like Jade Cargill was just 381 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:51.240 doing squash matches that lasted, you know, three minutes, four minutes, 382 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:55.200 you know, kind of thing when she was TVs champion 383 00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:58.200 and that just did not make that didn't make any 384 00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:01.440 sense to me. That was that was stale. It was stale. 385 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:04.599 That was That was a term that a lot of 386 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:08.279 people on social media used about j Cargill's run. It 387 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.920 was stale, not j car Gills's fault, by the way. 388 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:14.200 That's the way it was booked. But you never heard 389 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:15.519 that being said about. 390 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:18.920 M j and when she used to be champion, sorry Kelson, 391 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.119 when she used to be champion, I put it on mute. 392 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:24.519 I was not interested at all. 393 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:28.720 Yeah, you know, but again, it wasn't her fault. It 394 00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:31.079 was the booking. And it may have a lot to 395 00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:34.680 do with the state of the division at that time. 396 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:41.680 You had not as many bid carters that were viable contenders. 397 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:45.440 I mean, you had some people like sky Blue, Julia 398 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:49.720 Hart you know, that were there and they you know, 399 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:54.960 if if j Cargo was the champion, TVs. Champion right now, 400 00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:59.519 it would be different because there are more mid card 401 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:04.880