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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody.
Speaker 3: Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports
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Speaker 3: got Ryan under controls of the MIC's here and stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you going probably not, we'll see, haven't about
Speaker 2: it sold out? Right? So anybody has a ticket thing?
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's tickets and go some of the
Speaker 2: secondary markets. But should be interesting after what we've seen
Speaker 2: the last three weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was almost a favorite favorite. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: I was right. I wouldn't imagine that it could be
Speaker 3: a It could be a Tiger.
Speaker 2: And who knows. Arizona's had Colorado's number, to be honest,
Speaker 2: really the last as far as I can remember, they
Speaker 2: seem to have pretty good success. For Buffalos are going
Speaker 2: to have their best player back, Travis Hunter, so that
Speaker 2: could make things interesting. He's all over the place both
Speaker 2: sides of the field.
Speaker 3: Right we'll find out, at least on a head to
Speaker 3: head basis if they go. They don't go head ahead,
Speaker 3: but I guess they might. I mean team team back. Yeah,
Speaker 3: who's the better who's a better prospect? They're both very
Speaker 3: good obviously.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the NFL scouts will be watching those two. It'll
Speaker 2: be interesting to see if they do go one on one,
Speaker 2: but probably not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the defense, right, so we'll see. We'll see,
Speaker 3: Uh should be. It should be a fun game. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure if I'm going to go as a credential girl,
Speaker 3: a creudential person, or or or a guy who's a
Speaker 3: as a fan. I'm not sure. Yeah, and I'm not
Speaker 3: a fan. I just watch so everybody knows that. We'll
Speaker 3: see what happens. We'll talk more about that obviously later. Ryan,
Speaker 3: thanks for coming on in a lot of stuff to
Speaker 3: talk to you and breaking news or out in the
Speaker 3: bricking news area. And uh, Dave, welcome back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't get rid of me. I guess huh,
Speaker 2: so here I am again.
Speaker 3: Hey, if you were you were retired, dude, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: be here. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad you're retired.
Speaker 2: I don't think I could have fit this into my
Speaker 2: very busy schedule. But now it's not too busy.
Speaker 3: Well, you're My understanding is you've been just as it's
Speaker 3: like I think it was Dick, Tony or Luz. Just
Speaker 3: don't retire because you're too busy.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 3: You know, you can get more people asking stuff.
Speaker 2: Those guys both stayed busy in there after coaching years
Speaker 2: for sure. Like Dick Tomy moves back to Tucson, LUTs
Speaker 2: never left. He was always involved in this shaking hands
Speaker 2: because he worked. He had the same team with you
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He worked in development for the UFA Foundation. All you
Speaker 2: have to do is show up, right basically was he
Speaker 2: was a great ambassador as you can imagine. You say
Speaker 2: you're gonna have loot at your events, people would come
Speaker 2: no matter where you were in the country, and lout
Speaker 2: was such a good sport. I remember one time in
Speaker 2: San Francisco there was an event and he didn't have
Speaker 2: to be there, but he was there and people loved it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was. He was great for that. Yeah. And did
Speaker 2: he tell stories, told stories, signed autographs, took pictures. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's just a great sport.
Speaker 3: Right right, the stories and I you know, was with
Speaker 3: him for a long long time. The one thing about
Speaker 3: him he was a good storyteller, but he took forever
Speaker 3: to tell the stories.
Speaker 2: Well, that was yeah, I used to We used to
Speaker 2: joke doing interviews with him. Sometimes it would be like
Speaker 2: the two arm interview because your arm would get so
Speaker 2: tired holding the microphone. You'd have to switch hands because
Speaker 2: he would he would go on for a while. But
Speaker 2: you know, I'd rather have that oh yeah, yeah, than
Speaker 2: somebody who wouldn't say anything, no question about it.
Speaker 3: He was good, no question about that, and a lot
Speaker 3: of people like it. Yes, It's like it's like Bill Chick, right,
Speaker 3: he's he was yeah, okay, but now he's everywhere. Now
Speaker 3: he's everywhere.
Speaker 2: You can't miss him. I mean, you turn on last night,
Speaker 2: he's doing the Peyton and Eli show for the whole
Speaker 2: first half of that game, and he's on forever, right,
Speaker 2: And then he was on and he was good?
Speaker 4: Was he?
Speaker 3: He was pretty good? I guess waxing poetic or being
Speaker 3: mean to the giants of organization, not giants.
Speaker 2: To the Jets.
Speaker 3: Yes, And then he was on McAfee earlier in the
Speaker 3: day and I listened to that. He was pretty good.
Speaker 3: Here's the guy that wouldn't give you two sentences. Now
Speaker 3: he's kind of he's.
Speaker 2: He's found his Niche is a whatever commentator and he
Speaker 2: gets picked up. He's on a handful of shows. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he's you know, he's good at it too, which
Speaker 2: is kind of weird because he was he was good.
Speaker 2: There was a documentary that he did with Bill Parcells
Speaker 2: I want to say, maybe ten fifteen years I remember
Speaker 2: seeing that and you'd never seen Belichick like that. He
Speaker 2: was really open and honest and telling stories. Right, it's
Speaker 2: pretty good at that. Just got to get him comfortable
Speaker 2: in no media around. Yeah, or now that he's the media,
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah, I don't know what he you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, what he even consider coming back? He's late seventies.
Speaker 2: Does he want to do that all over?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I'm not too sure. I'm not sure he'd be the
Speaker 3: same guy because his career took a hit when Brady left. Obviously,
Speaker 3: but the Cowboys might be looking for a coach like
Speaker 3: this week, Yeah, he's I wasn't so isn't what's his name?
Speaker 3: Jones said he was adamant that he's not and get
Speaker 3: a new coach. And then this season and He even
Speaker 3: talked to two report says do you think I'm an idiot?
Speaker 3: Do you think I'm an idiot? And the guy i'm
Speaker 3: sure said no, but I'm sure in his mind's saying, well,
Speaker 3: can I think about it?
Speaker 2: I mean, I realized it's the Cowboys, and it's everything's magnified.
Speaker 2: But gosh, when they lose a game like that at
Speaker 2: home and you know, it's the Marquee game and everybody's
Speaker 2: waiting to see what they're going to do, and then
Speaker 2: they lay an egg and it's it's you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, they ask for it. I mean, they're the
Speaker 2: you know, model franchise I guess of the NFL. Maybe
Speaker 2: not well, but you know, the Marquee.
Speaker 3: Let me let me say this because I know some
Speaker 3: people listen who are Cowboy fans.
Speaker 2: When is the.
Speaker 3: NFL at its best, at its best? And I'm going
Speaker 3: to say this just randomly, when when when the Cowboys
Speaker 3: are pretty good?
Speaker 2: Because you have a lot of.
Speaker 3: People who hate the crap out of them or love
Speaker 3: the heck out of them right their bait, they're polarizing, uh,
Speaker 3: but them and maybe what the Kansas City chiefs now
Speaker 3: are kind of they're likable. The Chiefs, I think so, yeah,
Speaker 3: the Chiefs.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know who else besides the Cowboy the PINNNFL, Yeah,
Speaker 3: twenty nine Ers, Yeah, not so much.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I mean the Steelers.
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, but those those days Wednesdays are long. It's
Speaker 3: like the Steelers and the Cowboys are long gone, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, because it's been twenty seven years almost, it
Speaker 3: has been twenty seven twenty years.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's really kind of the same way in almost every
Speaker 2: professional sport too. When you think about the Yankees and
Speaker 2: the Dodgers and yeah, you know, you know that Fox
Speaker 2: is hoping that's going to turn out that way, and
Speaker 2: even Mets Yankees would be big for them. But in
Speaker 2: the same way in the pros with basketball, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, the Laker Breakers, the Celtics and the Knicks
Speaker 2: and the Warriors.
Speaker 3: And everyone's doing one of those four. Everyone's done for
Speaker 3: the good old days.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The kids are saying, ah, who cares about those guys?
Speaker 2: True? You know, right?
Speaker 3: Who who would be your wheelhouse? Not the true kid,
Speaker 3: but you're a kid. As far as baseball baseball yeah, Yankees, Yankees, yeah,
Speaker 3: and and who knows because they're the best two. The
Speaker 3: two best teams in right now is the Yankees and
Speaker 3: the Dodge Dodgers, Right, so.
Speaker 2: That would that would be the marquee game. But again,
Speaker 2: in the NFL, you know when you turn on the
Speaker 2: TV in the morning and that's all they're talking about,
Speaker 2: is just they know that's you know, Dallas and Lebron
Speaker 2: and Kobe when he was alive was a big, big
Speaker 2: topics and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's like like I said, it's polarizing.
Speaker 3: The people who hate him love their situation now because
Speaker 3: they're horrible and they're struggling and blah blah blah, and
Speaker 3: the guys who love them most. Hell, we do enough
Speaker 3: of this suffering.
Speaker 2: Why aren't we talking about the Packers? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean that division? How about that little division of
Speaker 2: four and two teams like everybody?
Speaker 3: So they're a good start, right So so we'll see.
Speaker 3: Let's me talk you real quick about the guests today.
Speaker 3: We have Mike de Corsi coming on a little bit.
Speaker 3: Uh so we'll have him talking about college football, a
Speaker 3: little about Arizona football, maybe a little about to put
Speaker 3: the basketball as we approach the season here pretty soon
Speaker 3: in a week less than a week, I think twenty
Speaker 3: first hoops hoops coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Mike's good. He's been around forever, so he
Speaker 2: knows all kinds of Stuffan he's really a national reporter.
Speaker 2: Those guys have fun jobs, I think where they can
Speaker 2: kind of just pick and shoes. I'm gonna just go
Speaker 2: to this game this week. Let me go to the
Speaker 2: Oar again, or I'm gonna go to the you know
Speaker 2: some game in my neighborhood I've never seen. That's gotta
Speaker 2: be fun. You know the helicopter reporters. Yeah, that's kind
Speaker 2: of cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh And then on the second hour, we're gonna have
Speaker 3: will it to Atala see what he's up to. Talked
Speaker 3: about the pressures of being a quarterback. We had were
Speaker 3: you here with George Mellow last week?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, so we had him just the pressures. He's a
Speaker 3: fantastic story. His all those kids are do you want athletes?
Speaker 2: You know I heard I heard that interview with you guys.
Speaker 2: I was I didn't know about that. Yeah, he's playing.
Speaker 3: Softball, softball, A couple of a couple of donors playing softball, well,
Speaker 3: a couple of kids boys playing, one playing college prisoner,
Speaker 3: the other one like the study quarterback in the West Coast.
Speaker 3: Uh but Bosco, Bosco, I think it is okay like
Speaker 3: this starting as a freshman Wow. As one of the
Speaker 3: top programs in the country.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah. I joked with him obviously.
Speaker 2: His his wife.
Speaker 3: His wife, he yeah, she says, yeah, she's the one.
Speaker 1: She was.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if she was you away, but she
Speaker 3: was an athlete, a tolerant athlete, I think, and he
Speaker 3: was you know what, maybe six ft five eleven or whatever.
Speaker 3: And now he has those people, So will you're gonna
Speaker 3: have him on see what he's up to. I think
Speaker 3: he's in California. Talked to him this morning. It was
Speaker 3: a year a few years ago. I had him on
Speaker 3: the show at the other station. So now we'll just
Speaker 3: touch basins. He what's up with him? Because he had
Speaker 3: a weird career, you know, and and one of those
Speaker 3: ones where everyone pays attention now to those concussions.
Speaker 2: It's true. I mean there were times where he got
Speaker 2: hit hard. I remember that LSU game on the road,
Speaker 2: knowing at home at home one too. But I remember
Speaker 2: hearing stories about just having him how difficult it was
Speaker 2: for him just to travel back to Tucson. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think they put him on the team plane, but
Speaker 2: it was kind of like, maybe we shouldn't have done that,
Speaker 2: we should have kept him overnight. But I mean, he
Speaker 2: can maybe tell us if he even remembers that story.
Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure there was a there were a
Speaker 2: few incidences where he was really knocked down.
Speaker 3: Hard, right, and then in case now it's too I mean,
Speaker 3: does he I'm sure he feels what he's going through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't. I think the coach mentioned last night that
Speaker 2: he's gonna come back sometime this year, right, but boy,
Speaker 2: he's had just a run of those concussions in the
Speaker 2: last couple of years.
Speaker 3: It's amazing how more quarterbacks don't have those situations. Oh,
Speaker 3: did you see the game last night?
Speaker 2: Pretty much?
Speaker 3: Did you see when he was sacked he was Rodgers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they got him a pedalty, gave him a pedal,
Speaker 3: They got a penalty for roughing the power Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: did you see that?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 3: So so uh akean since that was not a roughing
Speaker 3: the pastor. I didn't think it was, but I don't
Speaker 3: play quarterback. And then he I guess letter said, uh
Speaker 3: Rogers said it wasn't the roughing the passer because it
Speaker 3: was a it was a hit and then you know,
Speaker 3: drive down to put him down. But it wasn't. It
Speaker 3: was back ten years ago you're thinking, Okay, he sacked him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but now it's like, don't touch him.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean yeah, that's kind of been the name
Speaker 2: of the game is to protect the quarterback at all levels. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, especially going for the legs. But yeah, the
Speaker 2: head is not good and just defining roughing sometimes in
Speaker 2: front all is hard to do since almost every play
Speaker 2: is pretty rough in Mike BA and.
Speaker 3: It's it's bang bang. You know, it's just bang bang.
Speaker 3: You know, what are you gonna call off your ref?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rogers was pretty wobbly there for a few plays.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of that Michigan quarterback a number of
Speaker 2: years ago who got knocked around in one of the games.
Speaker 2: They kept him in, you know for a player too,
Speaker 2: and I was like obvious that he was pretty groggy.
Speaker 3: I don't remember who that was, remember, Brady.
Speaker 2: Hoke, I believe was. He got criticized heavily for why
Speaker 2: is he still out there? They need to watch that.
Speaker 3: M Okay, we're gonna take a break here in about
Speaker 3: a minute and see what Mike says, would get a
Speaker 3: hold of him, and Okay, anybody wants to call anybody
Speaker 3: who didn't get through yesterday. I know we had a
Speaker 3: couple of issues with the calls yesterday. Uh so we'll
Speaker 3: get you guys to call in after the interview with Mike.
Speaker 3: The course, we have plenty of time after that, and
Speaker 3: then Ryan will have the breaking news, and then we'll
Speaker 3: have Willie and then we'll have some more time on
Speaker 3: the other side. Okay, so it should be fun. Let's
Speaker 3: go to the break right now. It's kind a little
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Iron the Ball Hero Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today is Dave Silver.
Speaker 3: Now when I follow, we have Mike to course from
Speaker 3: abroad and with Sporting News.
Speaker 2: Mike, how are you?
Speaker 8: I am well?
Speaker 1: Steve?
Speaker 15: How are you?
Speaker 2: I was good to talk to you. I'm doing well.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: As this college football season got you a little flustered.
Speaker 3: What hasn't gone on yet?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 16: Oh?
Speaker 6: See to me, I've had a blast. This is the
Speaker 6: I've said this, I wrote about this, and I've said
Speaker 6: it publicly on multiple occasions. This is the college football
Speaker 6: season I've waited for my entire life. And I will
Speaker 6: say that it's not a short period of time, because
Speaker 6: I remember I wrote about this. My first college football
Speaker 6: game that I remember being conscious of what I was
Speaker 6: seeing was in nineteen sixty eight. I grew up in
Speaker 6: an Irish Catholic family, so they were all Notre Dame
Speaker 6: fans and kind of roped me in when I was younger,
Speaker 6: and we went to my grandfather's house to watch Notre
Speaker 6: Dame play Purdue in a September game, and Mike Phipps
Speaker 6: and Leroy Keys were the produced stars and Terry Hanratty.
Speaker 8: Was the Notre Dame star quarterback. And I remember that
Speaker 8: very well.
Speaker 6: So that's how long I've been waiting for this, for
Speaker 6: an actual season where games matter, where it's not about votes,
Speaker 6: where you win your conference and you're going to be
Speaker 6: playing for a championship instead of going twenty sixteen. I
Speaker 6: think it was I went down to when I lived
Speaker 6: in Indianapolis. I went down to Lucas Oil Stadium cover
Speaker 6: a really interesting game between Penn State and Wisconsin, and
Speaker 6: which even though Penn State became a Big Ten champion,
Speaker 6: they weren't going to playoff because they'd lost a couple
Speaker 6: of games. Now if they if they win it, they're
Speaker 6: going to be in That's that old way of doing
Speaker 6: things was never good for the sport, and we finally
Speaker 6: got rid of it.
Speaker 2: Mike. This last weekend, too, was just just insane. Here
Speaker 2: on the West games we're starting at nine o'clock and ending,
Speaker 2: you know, past midnight. I mean, it was one after
Speaker 2: another overtime games. Have you ever seen a weekend like
Speaker 2: that or a Saturday like that?
Speaker 8: Oh that you know that I don't. I haven't, and
Speaker 8: I'll tell you why.
Speaker 6: Even I'm sure there have been times when there were
Speaker 6: really a lot of fun games. But I mean I
Speaker 6: went to in the afternoon, I went to see pitt
Speaker 6: play California. I've moved to Pittsburgh in the last six months,
Speaker 6: and so I went to. I knew we were going
Speaker 6: to have good weather and I thought it would be
Speaker 6: an interesting game, So I went to that in person.
Speaker 6: On the way home, we were listening to Penn State's
Speaker 6: overtime game against sc When we got back, we watched
Speaker 6: the Ohio State Oregon game and that and and how
Speaker 6: that went down to the final seconds and all those games.
Speaker 6: The reason it was different is because all those games matter.
Speaker 6: If pitt wanted to stay alive for a spot in
Speaker 6: the ACC Championship, then they needed to win that game
Speaker 6: and it was it came down to a field goal
Speaker 6: with the minute and a half left that that cow missed.
Speaker 6: And the Penn State game, same thing. They they need
Speaker 6: that game to be sure that they're gonna have a chance.
Speaker 8: They can't.
Speaker 6: They can lose to Ohio State, yeah, but they probably
Speaker 6: can't lose to both Ohio State and Southern.
Speaker 8: Cal and feel good about it.
Speaker 6: So got to win that game and they did and
Speaker 6: Ohio State yeah, okay, So we moved We removed a
Speaker 6: little bit of consequence from that game because one of
Speaker 6: them will be will be positioned to be the leader
Speaker 6: for the Big Ten Championship, but the other will probably
Speaker 6: have a great chance at the that large. But what
Speaker 6: if Ohio State loses to Penn State, So dog on it.
Speaker 6: It did have consequence. So I think that even though
Speaker 6: there may have been days where there were a lot
Speaker 6: of really good games. There was never a day in
Speaker 6: college football history where there were so many consequential games.
Speaker 3: And then we have another week. But let me go
Speaker 3: to a situation that happened just a few months ago.
Speaker 3: You obviously covered the national scope of college football. So
Speaker 3: the work goes to Alabama, the Dominos fall Fish, goes
Speaker 3: to Washington, and then Brennan comes to Arizona, and now
Speaker 3: six games in whatever game's in, all three are in
Speaker 3: the hot seat.
Speaker 2: Well, no one.
Speaker 6: One of the things that has to be recalibrated in
Speaker 6: college sports is the amount of time it takes to
Speaker 6: go on a hot seat has to change. And because
Speaker 6: what can go wrong is accelerated now because of the
Speaker 6: transfer portal. You can lose some players who weren't anticipating.
Speaker 6: You can have a couple of injuries, and all of
Speaker 6: a sudden, because there aren't as many gimmes now as
Speaker 6: there used to be, you're in deeper, stronger conferences. You're
Speaker 6: gonna take a few more losses maybe than you might
Speaker 6: have otherwise if you aren't situated right.
Speaker 8: But that can also be repaired quickly.
Speaker 6: The baseline is, is this person a really capable coach.
Speaker 8: So we heard this about Florida.
Speaker 6: State when their season began zero to three, and there
Speaker 6: was some quaking about him being on the hot seat,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, wait a second, didn't he just win
Speaker 6: every regular season game less than twelve months ago.
Speaker 8: Let's relax a little bit. Is this person a really
Speaker 8: capable coach?
Speaker 6: And certainly you thought that eight nine months ago when
Speaker 6: you hired this person, So you can't decide now that
Speaker 6: that person is not. You have to give them a
Speaker 6: couple of seasons to figure out, well, can they really
Speaker 6: do it? I mean, you look at Kaitlin de Boor
Speaker 6: at Alabama. Yeah, they're having some problems and all of that,
Speaker 6: but they lost a ton of talent off of last
Speaker 6: year's team and he's been there for nine months. The
Speaker 6: guys won everywhere he's been. You can't give up on
Speaker 6: him now.
Speaker 8: I think I.
Speaker 6: Believed that you needed to recalibrate before we saw the
Speaker 6: impact of the transfer portal, and it just from the
Speaker 6: idea that teams would take more losses because of deeper conferences.
Speaker 6: But now it really has changed the math on every
Speaker 6: element of college football, and fans are going to have
Speaker 6: to understand you're going to have a rough year now
Speaker 6: in there, it's a little bit like being in the NFL.
Speaker 6: It's still not quite the same, but it's a little
Speaker 6: bit like being in the NFL. It's not going to
Speaker 6: be as easy to always be near the top.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at what happened to some of the
Speaker 2: former Pac twelve teams just this past weekend at home,
Speaker 2: with USC losing, but UCLA losing. I mean, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, they're in the Big ten and the competition
Speaker 2: is maybe a little bit more difficult, don't you think.
Speaker 8: Oh, I think that's a factor without a doubt. When
Speaker 8: when USC was in.
Speaker 6: The big the Pac twelve, there were years when Oregon
Speaker 6: was special. Stanford had a few years when they had
Speaker 6: Christian McCaffrey where they were very very good. Washington obviously,
Speaker 6: the last couple of years under Deboor they were quite good,
Speaker 6: but there weren't usually there weren't usually more than two
Speaker 6: of those teams in the Big ten. Right now, you're
Speaker 6: looking at Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State, SC is dangerous,
Speaker 6: Michigan is dangerous, Indiana might be really good, Illinois is
Speaker 6: not easy to play, Nebraska is playing pretty well, and
Speaker 6: even Rutgers in Maryland have had moments this year when
Speaker 6: they've been capable of beating a lot of teams. So
Speaker 6: it's just a harder ride now for those teams for
Speaker 6: the major conferences. That's true in all four of the
Speaker 6: remaining major conferences. It's going to be a harder ride
Speaker 6: than it was before. And it's tougher on coaches, it's
Speaker 6: tougher on players, and yeah, I'm sorry, but it's gonna
Speaker 6: be cover on fans too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, along those lines, those fans with deep pockets. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure how you feel about the nil will talk
Speaker 3: to that real quick, but I'm not sure where in
Speaker 3: the world people get paid in advance to do a job.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that this is part of the
Speaker 3: problem for the quarterbacks or wide receivers who are getting
Speaker 3: money and then don't live up to the money they're getting.
Speaker 8: Well, but I mean that's really true if you think
Speaker 8: about it.
Speaker 6: In any contractual situation, Uh, you you sign a contract
Speaker 6: in advance and are promised X amount of dollars for
Speaker 6: your for your performance, whether that performance is poor or not. Now,
Speaker 6: there may be there may be some stipulations in the
Speaker 6: contract where poor performance, uh doesn't you know isn't uh,
Speaker 6: isn't rewarded.
Speaker 8: You can get the the.
Speaker 6: The payer might be able to get out of the
Speaker 6: contract if there's underperformance, But for the most part, you're
Speaker 6: gonna like if you get a if you hire a coach,
Speaker 6: you're paying coach Jones in advance, so to speak, to
Speaker 6: try to go nine and three, and he may go
Speaker 6: three and nine, but you're still paying for nine and three.
Speaker 6: So I don't think it's that much different in that sense.
Speaker 6: As long as the player continues to provide the service,
Speaker 6: then sometimes they're going to turn out.
Speaker 8: To be not great. But that's the risk any athletic
Speaker 8: endeavor takes.
Speaker 6: When you are paying the performer, whether it's the NBA
Speaker 6: or now college football, you're taking the risk that that
Speaker 6: player may not live up to the contract that he
Speaker 6: or she signs.
Speaker 3: Right right, right, let's stay local here with Tucson. What
Speaker 3: have you seen from Arizona? Do you know Brent Brennan
Speaker 3: at all? And if you do, can he write this ship?
Speaker 8: I don't know him, no, but.
Speaker 6: I think that when Arizona, I think you have to
Speaker 6: be cognizant of the fact that when Arizona hired him,
Speaker 6: they looked at a lot of different factors. They believed
Speaker 6: in him at the time, and Okay, so they're starting
Speaker 6: out there three and three. They haven't had a great run.
Speaker 6: It's not what they wanted. You know, he had a
Speaker 6: nice run. He wasn't overwhelming at San Jose State.
Speaker 8: He had a nice run.
Speaker 6: So you know, is there greatness available to him? I
Speaker 6: think the one thing I'll say is that of all
Speaker 6: the major leagues, it's the one that offers the greatest
Speaker 6: opportunity because I think that there's a belief that the
Speaker 6: football played in the Big Twelve is significant. But there
Speaker 6: aren't any teams in the league that you say, man,
Speaker 6: we can get everything right and they're still Texas or
Speaker 6: you know, if Texas gets everything right, you got no shot.
Speaker 6: Or if Ohio State gets everything right, you got no shot.
Speaker 6: But there's nobody in the.
Speaker 8: Big Twelve that if you get everything right in in.
Speaker 6: Arizona or a Cincinnati or Kansas State, there's nobody in
Speaker 6: the Big Twelve you can't catch. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 6: that's what I think that's the best element of being
Speaker 6: in this league for all the members. They all have
Speaker 6: to believe that if they execute right, they get the
Speaker 6: right players in they coach them right, They make sure
Speaker 6: they're following the rules, et cetera, that they have a
Speaker 6: shot to be to be special and to be rewarded
Speaker 6: at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: One thing we've noticed too in the Big Twelve is
Speaker 2: these stadiums are packed. I mean, there's fan support all
Speaker 2: across the country for these schools, and I think Arizona, well,
Speaker 2: they've had their years. You know, there's never been that
Speaker 2: type of support here. How do you think they'll compete,
Speaker 2: you know, just in that in that subject matter, it's
Speaker 2: I think I think some.
Speaker 6: Of it's going to take a little get of us,
Speaker 6: little getting used to. I mean, I can't I just
Speaker 6: moved from Indiana six months ago, and they have not
Speaker 6: had fans support because they've never had successful football, or
Speaker 6: they've rare I shouldn't say never, they've rarely had successful football,
Speaker 6: so they're not conditioned to it, as is the case
Speaker 6: at Arizona. They're conditioned to go to a couple of
Speaker 6: games and then start getting ready for basketball. But now
Speaker 6: they're really good. They hired the right coach, they've had
Speaker 6: a great run to this point. They have a really
Speaker 6: significant game on Saturday against Nebraska. If they win that
Speaker 6: they legitimately have a chance to get into the playoff.
Speaker 8: Not saying they will, but they have a legitimate chance.
Speaker 6: So they're wired up, they're sold out for Saturday.
Speaker 8: They're really excited about it.
Speaker 6: Arizona finds themselves in that situation, I think the response
Speaker 6: will be the same. They need to have a run
Speaker 6: of sustained success to get into that mentality. And I
Speaker 6: think that it would have been nice for them if
Speaker 6: they didn't lose their coach on the eve of the move, because.
Speaker 8: They're moving into a league, like I said, where.
Speaker 6: They don't have an Oregon, they don't have an SC
Speaker 6: or even a Washington, where those schools all have built
Speaker 6: in advantages football wise over Arizona, whereas I don't think
Speaker 6: there's anybody in the conference really that has a built
Speaker 6: in advantage over everybody. They all, I think everybody's had
Speaker 6: good times and bad times, and they all have to
Speaker 6: feel like they have a shot to succeed.
Speaker 8: And I think that's certainly true for the Wildcats.
Speaker 2: So let's talk basketball.
Speaker 3: When the last question, Mike, I didn't realize you had
Speaker 3: left Cincinnati parbatly a while back and you were Indiana
Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh, so I was gonna ask you Big twelve Country,
Speaker 3: somewhere you lived for a while, and now basketball is
Speaker 3: going to be the king, and I couldn't. You've waited
Speaker 3: for football for all these years. I waited for basketball
Speaker 3: because it's gonna be brutal and it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I still kind of live technically a little bit in
Speaker 6: Big twelve Country because West Virginia is an hour down
Speaker 6: the road or so, so I still kind of have
Speaker 6: my toe in Big twelve Country, and I'll probably get
Speaker 6: down to Morgantown a time or two to see some
Speaker 6: Big twelve games this year.
Speaker 8: I think that it's really an exciting time.
Speaker 6: You've got a loaded league with Iowa State is terrific,
Speaker 6: Kansas is outstanding, obviously the Wildcats. I think you're looking
Speaker 6: at three to four Top twelve ish teams there. I
Speaker 6: think Kansas State is a team that I did not
Speaker 6: see ranked highly by either the poll or Ken Palms
Speaker 6: rankings the preseason rankings came out the other day. I
Speaker 6: think Kansas State has a chance. It's going to be
Speaker 6: really hard to get to the bucket against them. With
Speaker 6: Coleman Hawkins standing there, They've got a twin towers type setup.
Speaker 6: It's going to be really hard to get to the
Speaker 6: bucket against them. So I think there are gonna be
Speaker 6: a lot of really good teams.
Speaker 8: In the league. I know a lot of people are
Speaker 8: excited about Cincinnati speaking of them. They built a really nice,
Speaker 8: deep team.
Speaker 6: So the competition in the Big Twelve is going to
Speaker 6: be extraordinary in basketball.
Speaker 8: I think it's going to be great in the SEC.
Speaker 6: I think the Big Ten is fascinating, the Big Big
Speaker 6: East is still quite good. I think it's going to
Speaker 6: be a phenomenal year in college basketball and in twenty
Speaker 6: twenty four to twenty five. And the exciting thing for
Speaker 6: me as all this doom talk about conference realignment and
Speaker 6: what's happening future. If the settlement for the House case
Speaker 6: is signed off on and it's coming, it looks like
Speaker 6: it's going to happen. They basically guarantees that the tournament
Speaker 6: will have to exist for.
Speaker 8: The next decade.
Speaker 6: Because everybody that they've roped into the settlement, all the
Speaker 6: mid major and low major conferences that they said, yeah,
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to pay too, it's all tied to
Speaker 6: NCAA tournament revenue. So there has to be a tournament
Speaker 6: for there to be tournament revenue, and hopefully they won't
Speaker 6: grow it too much. I think we'll see growth, but
Speaker 6: I don't think we'll see a massive expansion so.
Speaker 8: That they wreck the March madness.
Speaker 6: I think seventy two we could probably live with anything
Speaker 6: more than that. And you're bloating it, and you're gonna
Speaker 6: risk the possibility of diminishing its popularity.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, Mike, we appreciate your time. As always, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Where can we find you?
Speaker 6: Well, you can find me now at tsn MIC on
Speaker 6: Twitter or.
Speaker 8: At Sportingnews dot com.
Speaker 6: All the material that I write goes to my Twitter
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Speaker 6: basketball season Big twelve, I'm sure there'll be some Big
Speaker 6: twelve telecasts.
Speaker 8: I pop up on halftime or.
Speaker 6: Pregame or whatever with doing the bracts for Fox.
Speaker 2: Ben Tell you're a busy man.
Speaker 3: We'll keep in touch with you as we get closer
Speaker 3: to to next year in March.
Speaker 8: Thanks, Steve, appreciate it, Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to lying the ball here on Fox
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to go to movies. We had family
Speaker 2: live out there, and so it was kind of like
Speaker 2: we're we're gonna go to breakfast, We're gonna launch. Man,
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Speaker 2: go wrong there, right, right? Have you got a call?
Speaker 2: Who's on the air?
Speaker 4: I see it's Jim.
Speaker 2: Jim.
Speaker 3: Sorry, but yesterday we couldn't get you couldn't hear you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot of commotion around the calls.
Speaker 3: I guess yes, what you saw.
Speaker 4: I want to address the football program again. One thing
Speaker 4: that's been I think overlooked in this whole transcendence from
Speaker 4: last year to this year is is jet Fish. Jetfish
Speaker 4: is an expert as anybody going when it comes to
Speaker 4: designing offenses handling quarterbacks. And he has ten years of
Speaker 4: NFL experience doing just that.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 4: Jetfish designed an offense and pass plays and running plays,
Speaker 4: the whole offense around not one diminutive quarterback but two.
Speaker 4: Uh DeLaura was only about five ten or so.
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry, I'll say right, go ahead, I have
Speaker 3: points I want to throw at you.
Speaker 4: Okay, So those guys, in the last six quarters I
Speaker 4: counted six quarters and one plus minutes, we've had four
Speaker 4: turnovers that were directly related to the trajectory of the
Speaker 4: ball from Noah Fafita's hand to a defense in two
Speaker 4: players and that we're intercepted or off to the top
Speaker 4: of somebody's helmet. That's four turnovers in six quarters of play. Now,
Speaker 4: do does all that mean that that Nolah Flathia can't
Speaker 4: compete at this level? I don't think so. I think
Speaker 4: he can, but I think that the offense needs to
Speaker 4: be fine tuned.
Speaker 3: To hiscity, no question, no question, And I think they
Speaker 3: did find that.
Speaker 4: I don't think that process is complete.
Speaker 3: No, I totally agree with you. I don't know about
Speaker 3: the Jetfish commentary. I'm not sure people in Washington would
Speaker 3: agree with you right now because he's taking a lot
Speaker 3: of flats. They're not sure if he's the right guy.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: They scored ten points I think against Iowa. You know
Speaker 3: they're going.
Speaker 4: Through the process. We are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well that's the whole thing. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you heard my my, uh my interview with of
Speaker 3: course he Davis and Davison, my, uh, Alabama's going through issues,
Speaker 3: Washington's going through issues, and you know it's it's just
Speaker 3: kind of the dominoes are not going well for the
Speaker 3: three programs that that the board the kind of set
Speaker 3: the stage for.
Speaker 4: If I was anywhere near to that coaching staff and
Speaker 4: had the opportunity, I would call Jeed Fish and ask,
Speaker 4: can I Jet what can we.
Speaker 3: Do for this kid?
Speaker 2: It's a good idea.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna call my my, uh my guy's ex husband,
Speaker 3: my girl's ex husband to to see how can I
Speaker 3: handle this woman.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, as coaches they're looking at the
Speaker 2: video from last year and seeing what worked. And you
Speaker 2: know it wasn't. One of his comments yesterday coaches comments
Speaker 2: was you know, protecting Noah and that means, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe not getting him to back up so far on
Speaker 2: some of the plays that take forever to materialize, and
Speaker 2: that maybe wasn't happening before. So you're right some of
Speaker 2: the play design. You know, we're not coaches, we don't
Speaker 2: really know exactly, but we're watching. We can see it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like, wait a second, why is it? Why is
Speaker 2: he's not you know, in sync with his receivers like
Speaker 2: he had last year? Jim, Jim, real quick.
Speaker 4: I understand physics and math well enough to see and
Speaker 4: I watched closely these last few weeks how many passes
Speaker 4: that have the trajectory, the direction, and the speed of
Speaker 4: the throw have been adjusted to try to get the
Speaker 4: ball to a receiver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're now, We make it real quick, Jim, because
Speaker 3: we have some more calls coup winning.
Speaker 4: All right, Well that's what I have to say and
Speaker 4: ask him what can we do for this kid that
Speaker 4: we're not doing.
Speaker 3: No, I don't disagree with your assessment because I've seen it,
Speaker 3: and I saw it right away, and people who know
Speaker 3: football said the same thing. Those balls and the releases
Speaker 3: have come differently than last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, watching very closely.
Speaker 3: Thanks Jim, Thanks him. We've got to go. Well appreciate. Okay,
Speaker 3: we get another call. You're on the air and eye
Speaker 3: on the ball.
Speaker 5: Hey you guys, this is Gabriel. How are you? Guys?
Speaker 3: Are Gabriel? Are we gonna get the cranky Gabriel?
Speaker 5: Uh No, because I'm just getting over a bloody cole.
Speaker 5: Don't know. You're not going to get the hissed off rattlesnake,
Speaker 5: that is me. So can we talk about the loss
Speaker 5: on Saturday?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm surprised that you're not upset about that.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. I'm just kind of basically speechless.
Speaker 5: Hope they get a win this coming Saturday. But I
Speaker 5: think in regards to in the offseason, bred Brendan needs
Speaker 5: to get a modern day offensive coordinator and a quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 5: He cannot do what he did in the in the
Speaker 5: winter basically hire hire everyone and anyone and to basically
Speaker 5: put up a stout out of sand there because like
Speaker 5: like that's not gonna work, and it's not working right
Speaker 5: now as we speak.
Speaker 3: No, you're you're right.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm just being brutally honest.
Speaker 2: No, you're right.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of criticism to go around, right.
Speaker 3: My mine is David. I don't know if you agree
Speaker 3: with me, just his approach and we all who are
Speaker 3: you know some I am who I am? You are
Speaker 3: who you are? Mild mannered or whatever, and he's mild mattered.
Speaker 3: He doesn't look like he gets firy. Maybe he does
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, but it's hard to get some emotion.
Speaker 3: And this is football, right, And you know you don't
Speaker 3: want you don't want stoops, you don't want rich Rod,
Speaker 3: you want a stables guy like this, But you also
Speaker 3: want somebody that you're gonna fight for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean Jedfish was want not crazy on
Speaker 2: the sidelines. There's somewhat similar and their demeanor and you
Speaker 2: don't we don't know kind of how things are behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, and as far as the coaches go, you know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of what happens when coaches changes happen, When
Speaker 2: coaching changes happen, that you have to keep some of
Speaker 2: the people who are here and bring some of your
Speaker 2: buddies along and look to fill your your lineup of coaches.
Speaker 2: It's it's not easy, I'm sure. And there was such
Speaker 2: a snowball effect this passed off season with all these
Speaker 2: coaches basically leaving in the same week. It seemed like
Speaker 2: a number of colleges were in the same boat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what was your other points?
Speaker 5: No, that was one point. I mean jet Fish could
Speaker 5: easily stayed here and then you would easily get to
Speaker 5: Florida job. But now people are really angry at him
Speaker 5: at Washington. Wow?
Speaker 2: Whatever?
Speaker 5: Have have that? A hoss? One if?
Speaker 2: If?
Speaker 3: Okay, so there are three and three six games left?
Speaker 3: What what would be okay to finish with? What would
Speaker 3: be uh not?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: I don't even know, to be honest with you, I'm
Speaker 5: just basically speechless. I mean, last year we went on
Speaker 5: a winning streak. They seemed to get the whole offense
Speaker 5: and rhythm.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, good luck, all is well. Easier said than done, right,
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: You know, And Jed is you know, making news. He's
Speaker 2: upset about the nil situation, comparing Washington to Oregon.
Speaker 5: Oh, come on, that's a load of bet.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what.
Speaker 5: You say, more money compared to Arizona. That's a that's
Speaker 5: a load of sugar, honey.
Speaker 2: I see well, I mean that game, that Ohio State
Speaker 2: Oregon game was billed as the twenty million dollars team Nils.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you can thank Uncle Phil up
Speaker 2: there in Oregon for helping out the Ducks program big
Speaker 2: time in Oregon State. I mean, Ohio State just has
Speaker 2: so much money to begin with.
Speaker 3: So Gabe, you're gonna have to deep deepen those pockets
Speaker 3: of years and start sending some cash.
Speaker 5: Yeah, come hell high water, I'll certainly will.
Speaker 3: Great. Thanks Gabe is always for calling in.
Speaker 5: Beardown Arizona, go cast. Let's keep calling on.
Speaker 3: All right, great, thanks Gape. Let's keep Hey.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you.
Speaker 3: I brought that up briefly yesterday with the twenty million
Speaker 3: dollar game and Jeed talking about that. So now we're
Speaker 3: now we're buying championships, not that they weren't buying them before, uh,
Speaker 3: but this is very apparent now. And and look, Arizona
Speaker 3: is Arizona, and you you worked for them in raising money,
Speaker 3: but it's always going to be Arizona. It's not. It's
Speaker 3: not the top tier. Maybe in basketball to some degree,
Speaker 3: it is football. Though, how are you going to convince
Speaker 3: donors or boosters or whomever you go after the money
Speaker 3: to say everything's gonna be okay if you give X
Speaker 3: amount of money? When when you're not gonna be the
Speaker 3: Ohio States or the Oregons or the Washington what's that
Speaker 3: fine line that that that the touching point?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean, even as Mike was saying
Speaker 2: when we talked and Mike de Corsi, is that the
Speaker 2: Big twelve is different than the PAC twelve was and
Speaker 2: the Big ten and SEC are now that Arizona's in
Speaker 2: this conference that you know, maybe a little even there's
Speaker 2: it's it's not gonna be a big It's not going
Speaker 2: to be an Oregon or Washington or Stanford or you know,
Speaker 2: USC to deal with, right, and we're Arizona's just gonna
Speaker 2: have to deal with others. Well, school's kind of at
Speaker 2: this level.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you agree with with me and
Speaker 3: Jay now, and sorry Nico, I brought Jay's name up,
Speaker 3: but we thought, and maybe it's just the first year
Speaker 3: honeymoon blah blah blah, but we thought that Arizona moving
Speaker 3: into the Big twelve would be much better given that
Speaker 3: the playing field becomes better, you know, cause they might
Speaker 3: have a chance, a better chance to win the whin
Speaker 3: the when the conference rather than the Pac twelve because
Speaker 3: they had you as C Washington Oregon in front of them.
Speaker 3: Now they don't, they don't. And in basketball, look, Arizona's
Speaker 3: gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but boy oh boy, look at the conference.
Speaker 3: I know, and that's where I want to go with.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be very good. But yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Everybody else is too. It's gonna got a last call here. Hello,
Speaker 3: you're on the air on the ball, I see. This
Speaker 3: is Jeff. How you guys doing, Hey, Jeff, good, Thanks
Speaker 3: thanks for calling.
Speaker 16: They have been listening a couple of things. One, you know,
Speaker 16: the college talking about jet fish and what Jeff came
Speaker 16: on here. He had to build a team from nothing.
Speaker 16: He started from zero. We're patient at the first year
Speaker 16: one win. The second year was it four or five wins?
Speaker 16: So you saw it progressed and you're patient with him.
Speaker 16: Were so you take a holders and we're fine with that. So, hey,
Speaker 16: the guys starting from zero. U Ben just started from zero.
Speaker 16: Bafita was a winning quarterback last year. Was he not. Yes,
Speaker 16: the man didn't win. Okay, he went ten and three
Speaker 16: last year, and some people might say a win is
Speaker 16: a win, but he loss isn't a loss. To two
Speaker 16: of our losses last year where what double overtime? You
Speaker 16: think USC was triple overtime? I lost to Washington was
Speaker 16: by seven points and they were in the national championship.
Speaker 16: Our loss against UH Texas Tech, that's that's a bad loss. Yeah,
Speaker 16: I mean in Kansas State that was a bad loss
Speaker 16: by use a don good football team, that's still a
Speaker 16: bad loss. You lost by twenty two. So losing by
Speaker 16: twenty two and losing in double overtime, that's you know,
Speaker 16: you you know the players and your fans that you
Speaker 16: want support from the fans. Well, you can't get beat
Speaker 16: by twenty two. You can't just kind of state. You
Speaker 16: can't lose the Texas Tech. Right, you can't squeak by
Speaker 16: any of you. You know, you can't do that if
Speaker 16: you want fans to show up and support you, if
Speaker 16: you're if you want your donors support you.
Speaker 3: You're right, You're right. It's not it's not how they're
Speaker 3: it's how they're losing their drugs. Casser that drugs concern.
Speaker 2: Now I was.
Speaker 16: I thought that with the returning players that they had,
Speaker 16: and I read the coaching lineup, and I was happy
Speaker 16: with what I thought coaching staff. I was hoping tending
Speaker 16: to it the very worst nine in three. Now we're
Speaker 16: at three and three. If we can go six and two, No,
Speaker 16: our toughest games are behind US Kansas State Dark good team.
Speaker 16: Uh Utah, those are two toughest on the schedule. B
Speaker 16: y U undefeated and losing by YU on the road
Speaker 16: isn't all that bad. It's actually it's holly loss. If
Speaker 16: he could be four and to right now, I'd be
Speaker 16: happy as heck. Yeah, you know, maybe if you could
Speaker 16: finish the next six games, if you could go four
Speaker 16: and two, if you know you can pull out eight
Speaker 16: maybe nine wins. Now we're just you know, I want
Speaker 16: to go back to the old Wildcats. You're happy with
Speaker 16: six or seven wins and leak into a small ball.
Speaker 3: Well, I think seven, four and two, four and two
Speaker 3: the rest of the way is kind of nice. It's
Speaker 3: kind of nice to go seven and five for the
Speaker 3: year within the CHASA, get eight wins total. Uh, but
Speaker 3: where do you find those wins? Because it's been difficult.
Speaker 16: Well, I mean I think our toughest schedule hopefully is
Speaker 16: behind us. If they can, if the coaches get this,
Speaker 16: you know, make their adjustments they need to make, get
Speaker 16: the you know, players playing like today against Utah, there's
Speaker 16: no I mean, it's don't you think our three toughest
Speaker 16: points are behind Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, without question? The first the last three games have
Speaker 3: been we got.
Speaker 2: Two more home games coming up, back to back, and
Speaker 2: then you go, you see, no one knows, and then
Speaker 2: Houston's not very good at home in Tucson and then
Speaker 2: go to TCU and have a issue at home. So
Speaker 2: it's a promising schedule for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 16: Yeah, if we can, you know, if they can, if
Speaker 16: the coaching staff has got to step up now they
Speaker 16: they've got to go foreur and too, and uh you know,
Speaker 16: end up with seven and five, and that'd.
Speaker 3: Be you know, I think that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 16: It's okay, Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Jeff, we got to go. Thanks for the call.
Speaker 3: Is this your first time calling you you called before?
Speaker 3: H Yeah, okay, well thanks for calling, thanks for listening.
Speaker 3: Keep calling. Well, all right, thank you, thank you. I
Speaker 3: think we got to go, Ryan, right, Yes, we got
Speaker 3: little time here. We're going to get Ryan on the
Speaker 3: other other side with some breaking news, and then really
Speaker 3: to eat Tama after that.