Speaker 1: Callaroga Shark Media been air. I'm Johnny Mack with your
Speaker 1: daily comedy news. Dave Chappelle is doing his hometown summer
Speaker 1: shows again. Dave Chappelle's Summer Camp is a summer tradition.
Speaker 1: It's back for its fifth year. He'll do three summer
Speaker 1: weekends at the Weird Pavilion weekend of July second to
Speaker 1: third and fifth, so no show on the fourth, and
Speaker 1: then August fourteen, fifteen sixteen, and August twenty one, twenty two,
Speaker 1: twenty three. The Hollywood Reporter put Chappelle and Moa. Mayer
Speaker 1: together for a conversation. Dave says, of Mo, we spent
Speaker 1: all the summer of twenty twenty together doing shows. The
Speaker 1: best comedians of the world flew in Ohio and we
Speaker 1: had a blast. Moe recalls it was so nerve wracking
Speaker 1: because everything was so unsettling. It was COVID, it was
Speaker 1: civil unrest, it was my own personal stuff, and every
Speaker 1: one of my writers was juggling things emotionally. He was
Speaker 1: really overwhelming, But you, Dave, really saved my life. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that a lot of people fell that way because
Speaker 1: we weren't working. You gave us an outlet so the
Speaker 1: story here. Moe was invited to participate in Actors on Actors,
Speaker 1: and he suggested speaking with Dave Chappelle. Chappelle said, as
Speaker 1: you know, I notoriously don't like to do press, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have missed today because it's used. So Dave
Speaker 1: flew from Ohio to LA and said, there's an elephant
Speaker 1: in the room. You got a deal at Netflix to
Speaker 1: produce a show, and then Riser's starting production on season
Speaker 1: two October seventh happened, and this is something that you're
Speaker 1: going to have to address artistically or not. And I
Speaker 1: was curious about what's the process of going through that.
Speaker 1: By some weird accident, you found yourself being a solo
Speaker 1: Palestinian voice at a very critical time in human history.
Speaker 1: Moe explained. I started writing season two in April of
Speaker 1: twenty three. Then the writers Guild went on strike. We
Speaker 1: came back in October six days later. All hell breaks loose,
Speaker 1: and particularly my writing room. Since the show centered around
Speaker 1: a Palestinian family and impacted it significantly, it caused us
Speaker 1: to have a tremendous amount of debate in the writing
Speaker 1: room itself. Chappelle was curious where the pressure comes from family, friends, bosses,
Speaker 1: most said more so from the fans of the public
Speaker 1: said I'm the only guy that's Palestinian. It was a
Speaker 1: show that centered around the Palestinian family. The pressure around
Speaker 1: that was a minute. There were so many phone calls
Speaker 1: and people pressuring me to speak right away. Literally October eighth,
Speaker 1: I noticed everybody was yelling at each other. No one
Speaker 1: was actually listening to one another. And I think it's
Speaker 1: really important to understand what's happening before you speak out.
Speaker 1: It's really necessary to know what you're talking about. I've
Speaker 1: aween my art form as a refuge what it allows
Speaker 1: me to be myself and express myself. Outside of that,
Speaker 1: it feels unnatural to me at the moment. I had
Speaker 1: a long conversation there along those lines while we're solving
Speaker 1: a peace in the Middle East here on Daily Comedy News,
Speaker 1: THEO Vaughn has also addressed Palestine on his podcast. He
Speaker 1: called it a genocide. There's a clip going viral. It's
Speaker 1: from the May tenth episode of this past Weekend. In it,
Speaker 1: THEO says, feels to me like it's a genocide that's
Speaker 1: happening while we're alive. You see all these photos of
Speaker 1: people just children, women, people body parts, just putting their
Speaker 1: kids back together. I just can't believe we're watching that
Speaker 1: and that more isn't said about it. I didn't set
Speaker 1: out today to wait into any of this. As I
Speaker 1: put the show together and he could check the back catalog.
Speaker 1: Whoever the biggest comedian is, that's who gets the first story.
Speaker 1: So when I went into the Chappelle thing and saw
Speaker 1: that THEO, who's pretty big and would have been in
Speaker 1: the three spot today, was on the same subject, I
Speaker 1: put those two back to back. Had THEO spoken about
Speaker 1: something else, the number two story would have been this
Speaker 1: whole John Mullaney thing. Now, I had pointed out on
Speaker 1: this show, I'm getting up on my soapbox and doing
Speaker 1: the Hey, Johnny Mack told you I'm doing it. Hey,
Speaker 1: remember I told you this. Remember a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: Robbie pro the head of Netflix Comedy, was like, yeah, Mallenie,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but like never said it was actually coming back.
Speaker 1: Then last week Mulaney was on Mark Marion's podcast and
Speaker 1: you know, said we're working things out. Late Nighter poked
Speaker 1: at this. Robbie Pra told Late Nighter Robbie again is
Speaker 1: head of Netflix comedy Every Wednesday for the last twelve
Speaker 1: weeks has been my favorite Wednesday. I think John is
Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant. That's nice. My ex girlfriend from college has
Speaker 1: nice hair. That's it. She's nice hair. So Late Nighter
Speaker 1: didn't accept that dodge and asked it, you know, are
Speaker 1: we gonna get any more of this show? Robbie prot says,
Speaker 1: I have nothing to elaborate on at this time, which
Speaker 1: is not yeah, we're working on season two right now,
Speaker 1: or yeah, twelve more episodes come out October twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: or yeah, we're working it out. John's touring this summer,
Speaker 1: which is trying to figure out the dates. You could
Speaker 1: have said any of that, but Prau said quote, I
Speaker 1: have nothing to elaborate on at this time. Prau also
Speaker 1: points out mulaney is an extremely, extremely busy man. It
Speaker 1: sounds like everybody has figured out that that show didn't
Speaker 1: work my opinion, and they're laying the groundwork to everyone
Speaker 1: to get out gracefully. I could see a future in
Speaker 1: which it's like, you know, working with John was great,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, he's got this sixteen month tour
Speaker 1: coming up, but he's got two young children and he's
Speaker 1: in a lot of demand and he might host some
Speaker 1: awards show how about you know, we love him here
Speaker 1: at Netflix, and we always have the door open for
Speaker 1: an upcomings, you know, that kind of spin that's coming.
Speaker 1: What's incredible to me about John is how quickly we
Speaker 1: saw the evolution of the show. To put on a
Speaker 1: program that feels different from Show one to Show twelve.
Speaker 1: In the old world of late night, that would be
Speaker 1: what two and a half weeks. I can't really envision
Speaker 1: who else could pull that off the way John did. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not really a fair comparison. You kick, pare twelve
Speaker 1: weekday shows to twelve weeks. You have to comp we
Speaker 1: are twelve weeks to twelve weeks, because if you're doing
Speaker 1: a daily show, like all right, we're done taving at
Speaker 1: six thirty and we have to get to work, and
Speaker 1: we have twenty three hours to put out another show,
Speaker 1: not one hundred and sixty seven hours to put out
Speaker 1: another show. So that's not a fair comparison at all.
Speaker 1: Robbie Prau, who I've worked with back at Just for Laughson,
Speaker 1: is a good guy. More from pra Vi e Late
Speaker 1: Night Er, which is a great website. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: calling it late night, but it's on streaming so it's
Speaker 1: available all the time. So to me, it really seems
Speaker 1: like a hybrid. It's a talk show. Part of it
Speaker 1: feels snl E. No it doesn't. I mean he wrestled
Speaker 1: fourteen year olds. That feels Andy KAUFMANI yes, he did
Speaker 1: the hype bit the night Letterman was on. That felt lettermany.
Speaker 1: Yes it did. The fact that he was out there
Speaker 1: doing these ten to twelve minute not topical monologues and
Speaker 1: that they're strong as they are is something mokes folks
Speaker 1: don't understand the level of difference and specialness. You have
Speaker 1: to have to achieve that. Sure, but I will tell
Speaker 1: you this, Give Jay Leno a week to come up
Speaker 1: with twelve minutes, he'll do it. But he did a
Speaker 1: show five days a week. And let's not pretend people
Speaker 1: don't have writers for us as The idea of producing
Speaker 1: the show live around the world wasn't necessarily a strategy
Speaker 1: to differ the show. To be honest, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's the thing that makes the show great personally. It's
Speaker 1: certainly exciting that it's live in the moment, but it
Speaker 1: really stands out as a great variety hour either way,
Speaker 1: That's how a lot of our members engage with it.
Speaker 1: You may recall Jimmy Kimmel Live was called Jimmy Kimmel
Speaker 1: Live because Jimmy Kimmel was Stay It with Me Live.
Speaker 1: The Holly Reporter caught up with Seth Meyers, who somehow
Speaker 1: has been hosting Late Night for eleven years now without
Speaker 1: really having any impact on society. They were curious, Seth,
Speaker 1: do you have a sense for what differentiates your show?
Speaker 1: Seth says, One thing I love hearing as I'll come
Speaker 1: backstage for first time guests and they'll say, everybody tells
Speaker 1: me this will be really fun, and that's great. Defeedback,
Speaker 1: I think is people like doing the show because they
Speaker 1: feel like it's a conversation. We don't ask some of them.
Speaker 1: It's just come and talk. It's a loose, good vibe.
Speaker 1: Host isn't in a suit. We have a nice green room. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, if that alone isn't a reason to watch
Speaker 1: the show, they have a nice green room, says The
Speaker 1: one thing I was most wrong about is I thought
Speaker 1: politicians would be more interesting. I think it's very interesting
Speaker 1: to talk about politics. It's less interesting to talk to
Speaker 1: politicians and We've built a show where if the conversation's good,
Speaker 1: it's good TV, and it almost doesn't matter who it's with. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it's better to have a good conversation with
Speaker 1: an author than a bad conversation with an A list star.
Speaker 1: But that said, is it if more value if you
Speaker 1: have a good conversation with George Clooney? Of course, But
Speaker 1: if we realize there's someone who's a giant star is
Speaker 1: maybe better at being a giant star than they are
Speaker 1: being a talk show guest, that's great. We don't need
Speaker 1: to chase that person. In Carmel spoke to GQ about
Speaker 1: his weight loss and said, you know what the big
Speaker 1: difference for me was, I joined a gym. I can
Speaker 1: walk to the whole idea of getting in the car
Speaker 1: and finding parking and in LA often paying for parking.
Speaker 1: I took away as many hurdles as I could. There's
Speaker 1: a gym that's like a twenty five minute walk for me.
Speaker 1: Perfect it's podcast time. Maybe he listens to this podcast. Hi,
Speaker 1: And I also drink so much water because the other
Speaker 1: thing I feel with cravings is you have to try
Speaker 1: telling them and know in as many ways as you
Speaker 1: can throw whatever you can at them. I'm probably like
Speaker 1: a three to four apples a day guy. Doctors will
Speaker 1: tell you to keep it to two, but listen, it's
Speaker 1: that or Lasagnas. I'm doing the apples and I love blueberries.
Speaker 1: For me, that's a top tier berry. I think it's
Speaker 1: the most consistently good. I don't think it's the best
Speaker 1: berry at its best, but it's the best berry on average.
Speaker 1: Forgot to mention earlier. Seth's doing a lot of press
Speaker 1: and why I don't know why he's doing so much press.
Speaker 1: Conan's doing a lot of press too. At Eliza Slessengers
Speaker 1: doing a lot of press. I've noticed that aproprobe nothing
Speaker 1: just thought a chair doing comedy podcast and these things
Speaker 1: come to mind when I put the show together. At
Speaker 1: the ATX TV Festival in Austin, Brett Goldstein talked about
Speaker 1: his early collaboration with Scrubs creator Bill Lawrence. That was
Speaker 1: a project called spaced Out, also in that Donald Faison
Speaker 1: from Scrubs. It was basically a space themed workplace sitcom.
Speaker 1: Wheret Goldstein said, it was my second pilot season in
Speaker 1: la I'd gone and done a pilot for HBO the
Speaker 1: year before. There was really good, but didn't get picked up,
Speaker 1: and then it came back in an audition for Bill's
Speaker 1: new show. I love Bill because of Scrubs and I
Speaker 1: was excited to had Donald in it. The show was
Speaker 1: about a working class genius trying to integrate with a
Speaker 1: team of scientists building a Mars rocket. Goldstein said it
Speaker 1: was basically Scrubs set in a rocket factory. We called
Speaker 1: it space Turk. Laurence said it was not called it
Speaker 1: was canceled. Brett says, the thing that's awful about making TVs,
Speaker 1: we all felt on the set the pilot was really special.
Speaker 1: This is a thing so much that when Bill's producing partner,
Speaker 1: Jeff said goodbye to me, because you do the pilot
Speaker 1: and then you start shooting the rest of the season
Speaker 1: in August, he said to me, see you in August.
Speaker 1: So I started packing out my house. I sold my
Speaker 1: place in England, don't know. And then a month later
Speaker 1: it's not happening. I was like, where do I live? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't do that. That was a rookie mistake there,
Speaker 1: brick Oldstein. Years later, Bill Lawrence calls him about this
Speaker 1: show called ted Lasso. He called me completely out of
Speaker 1: the blue, and he said, I'm gona do this football show.
Speaker 1: You want to come right on it? And I said no,
Speaker 1: I've got a big stand up show booked. He said
Speaker 1: it starts next week and I was like, but I've
Speaker 1: got these stand up shows. Brett spoke to comedian Nish Kumar,
Speaker 1: who told him cancel the show. Cold Scene had another concern.
Speaker 1: He had developed a show, Soulmates for AMC. The Soulmates
Speaker 1: got picked up and I was like, ef Bill Lawrence
Speaker 1: said he was running Soulmates and we hired him as
Speaker 1: a writer on Lasso. He didn't know he was also
Speaker 1: going to be Roy Kent, but that was all Brett.
Speaker 1: We were writing. The party filmed an audition on his own.
Speaker 1: He sent it to us and he absolutely killed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've heard that story before where he just asked, Hey,
Speaker 1: can I just be Roy Kent and they said yeah.
Speaker 1: That's how I started hosting the show on Live One.
Speaker 1: The weekly comedy thing, by the way, I should plug
Speaker 1: that new episodes every Monday, kind of like this, except
Speaker 1: I talk a lot less. But I can also play
Speaker 1: comedy clips from comedians because of licensing and all that.
Speaker 1: So that's the weekly comedy thing on Live One. So
Speaker 1: when we were putting that show together, I was inspired
Speaker 1: by Phil Collins from Genesis. I've gone sideways here, let
Speaker 1: me back you up. So Peter Gabriel, musician Peter Gabriel,
Speaker 1: you've heard of him. He was the original singer for
Speaker 1: the band Genesis, and then he left and Genesis was
Speaker 1: looking for singers and they auditioned a bunch of people
Speaker 1: and then one day Phil Collins, who you've heard of,
Speaker 1: said can I just do it? And they were like, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: So we were auditioning people for the weekly comedy thing
Speaker 1: and I was writing it, but no one was quite
Speaker 1: nailing the voice. And I eventually said can I do it?
Speaker 1: And I totally had Phil Collins stuck in my head
Speaker 1: for that, and they were like sure. So I started
Speaker 1: hosting that and then I had all these extra stories
Speaker 1: left over, and I'm like, I got to do something
Speaker 1: with these stories. So I created this podcast and here
Speaker 1: we are, and like anything else in life, I've been
Speaker 1: talking into a microphone almost every day for don eleven
Speaker 1: twelve years now, and you get better things. So thank
Speaker 1: you for listening. I digress. But that was the end
Speaker 1: of the Brett Goldstein story. Oh, I definitely want to
Speaker 1: stop off at Gossip Corner before we Go. Page six
Speaker 1: reported that Jeff Gorlan was scheduled to headline a comedy
Speaker 1: dinner at the Calabasas Country Club in SoCal last week. However,
Speaker 1: he allegedly walked out after discovering he'd be paid by check.
Speaker 1: Gorlan was reportedly promised listen to this number eight hundred
Speaker 1: dollars in cash, and was unhappy to learn at the
Speaker 1: venue intended to compensate him with a check instead. Let's
Speaker 1: just stop off there. So say you were on curb
Speaker 1: your enthusiasm for eleven years, You're going to headline a
Speaker 1: comedy dinner. How much do you think you would get paid?
Speaker 1: Apparently the number is eight hundred dollars. Wow. An insider
Speaker 1: told the Post the crowd was ticked, most of them
Speaker 1: come to see Jeff. Approximately forty people at the show.
Speaker 1: According to Calabasa's country club schedule, they frequently host events
Speaker 1: such as comedy nights and bingo. The Post says it's
Speaker 1: unclear why Garland walked out. A different source in form
Speaker 1: Page six that he likely didn't walk out due to
Speaker 1: financial reasons. They said, Jeff can be a very neurotic guy.
Speaker 1: You can get hung up on things, so who knows.
Speaker 1: I think I have it in my brain somewhere. I
Speaker 1: feel like when I was at Serious XM, I feel
Speaker 1: like we were talking with Jeff about maybe perhaps doing
Speaker 1: something I may have And again, I might just be
Speaker 1: making up this whole thing. I feel like I was
Speaker 1: on a call with Jeff and I haven't filed away
Speaker 1: in my brain that sometimes you jump on calls with
Speaker 1: people and you can tell people really want to do
Speaker 1: something and then we'll figure out the money later. And
Speaker 1: then sometimes you're on a call with someone and you
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, they think we have a lot of
Speaker 1: money because Howard Stern reportedly makes one hundred million dollars,
Speaker 1: so let me do a show on Sirius so I
Speaker 1: can make money. And it's more about the money than
Speaker 1: the idea. And I haven't filed away this conversation with
Speaker 1: Garland that I might just be imagining, but I think
Speaker 1: it happened, if I'm remembering correctly. I think I left
Speaker 1: that call going, oh, this isn't column B, that this
Speaker 1: is just like, hey, I heard this is the thing.
Speaker 1: When podcasting heated up a few years back, oh boy,
Speaker 1: a lot of people were out. Yeah, I'd like to
Speaker 1: do a podcast. All right, what do you want to do?
Speaker 1: I don't know, whatever you guys think, And it was like,
Speaker 1: you just want to be paid anyway. That's your comedy
Speaker 1: news for today, see tomorrow.