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Speaker 2: about the COVID report. FBI China accused the US government
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Speaker 2: This week we'll get the real details from Dave Hatter,
Speaker 2: who has a broader and greater understanding of that kind
Speaker 2: of thing. Plus phishing attacks. You thought they were bad,
Speaker 2: they doubled in counter year twenty twenty four. So those
Speaker 2: are our topics with Dave coming up at six thirty
Speaker 2: hour of power. Todd Zendzer and I like the label
Speaker 2: Joe Strekker applied to Todd Zenser, our watchdog of city
Speaker 2: council and commissioners County commissioners. Todd brilliant man. He'll be
Speaker 2: in studio. We'll be talking about the recent shootings in
Speaker 2: Price Hill at what was going on in council on Wednesday?
Speaker 2: He was there, what was discussed? At least he was
Speaker 2: there and probably wasn't anybody from local news there. And finally,
Speaker 2: do we need a new arena? We'll be paying for
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Speaker 2: going on in the studio. But why dry January which
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Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: He claims it harms the hospitality and retail businesses. And
Speaker 2: I put up a Facebook post about that, and by
Speaker 2: all accounts, apparently stirred a big pot of of dissent
Speaker 2: anger maybe varying opinions on whether or not it does
Speaker 2: hurt the hospitality retail business. How many people actually uh
Speaker 2: doing dry? January? Joj do you have any shlivovitz yet
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Speaker 2: fair enough, Joe Huker's celebratory drink of choice. You haven't
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Speaker 2: So what's going on at in La death holl up
Speaker 2: to ten? You heard that at the top of the
Speaker 2: UR news, which is you know, honestly when you I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've looked online at the photographs, it's
Speaker 2: not to negate the devastation or the human carnage because
Speaker 2: we are at ten people. And this is kind of
Speaker 2: the point I'm making. It looks like Nagasaki after the
Speaker 2: bomb was dropped, or Hiroshima. Some of these neighborhoods. There's
Speaker 2: multiple images online that before and after when some of
Speaker 2: them have that little slide bar down the middle where
Speaker 2: you can look at what it looked like before and
Speaker 2: what it looked like after. I mean, it literally looks
Speaker 2: like a massive bomb was dropped over all these neighborhoods.
Speaker 2: And the price of the homes like this specific Palisades neighborhood,
Speaker 2: I think they said the average, the median or the
Speaker 2: sort of mid price of the homes there three and
Speaker 2: a half million dollars a pop. We'll get to the
Speaker 2: insurance realities of that sometime this morning. And there's no
Speaker 2: doubt in my mind in prayers to anybody who's lost
Speaker 2: anything out there, unlike some people Keith Oldman, for example,
Speaker 2: you know, sort of making fun of or otherwise piling
Speaker 2: on people who've lost James Wood's not a real fan
Speaker 2: among the Hollywood leftist because of course he's one of
Speaker 2: the few conservatives. He lost his home, and I guess
Speaker 2: some people were making fun of him, telling him got
Speaker 2: what he deserved, and that's not appropriate. And that's kind
Speaker 2: of the point I'm trying to make here. I don't
Speaker 2: wish anyone this kind of this terrible, terrible reality to
Speaker 2: befall them, but I think it's pretty safe to assume
Speaker 2: that the death Hole is not going to stay at
Speaker 2: double at ten anyway. They're still struggling to contain the blazes.
Speaker 2: At least five of these fires are still burning. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're infernos, it's just many of them not contained at all.
Speaker 2: They're burning simultaneously all around Los Angeles. Entire neighborhoods engulfed.
Speaker 2: More than ten thousand and counting structures have been burned
Speaker 2: to the ground. Medical examiner again gave the new death hole.
Speaker 2: Los Angeles County Chef Robert Luna, speaking at a briefing
Speaker 2: yesterday evening, the obvious question is do you think it's
Speaker 2: going to grow? Refering to the death, County said, I'm
Speaker 2: praying a dozen, but based on the devastation, it looks
Speaker 2: like an atomic bomb dropped in these areas. I'm not
Speaker 2: expecting good news exactly. So far, economic losses have been
Speaker 2: estimated in the tens of billions of dollars. I've seen
Speaker 2: figures from fifty billion to one hundred and thirty billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Of course, thousands of people no longer have a place
Speaker 2: to live, more than what two hundred thousand plus people
Speaker 2: without power, three hundred and sixty thousand plus people under
Speaker 2: a mandatory evacuation order, and one that accidentally issued for
Speaker 2: the entire Los Angeles County, which I believe contains ten
Speaker 2: million people. It was a woops moment everybody get out
Speaker 2: of a Los Angeles County like, well what And I'm
Speaker 2: not certain that you know that you know these fires
Speaker 2: could actually engulf all of Los Angeles County, but consider
Speaker 2: that as a possibility. How did ten million people evacuate,
Speaker 2: especially when you know you're surrounded by wildfires. Pacivic Palis
Speaker 2: Sage neighborhood absolutely just wiped out. Five thousand, three hundred
Speaker 2: homps so far been destroyed, including businesses. And that's the
Speaker 2: other element of it. Okay, First off, where do these
Speaker 2: people stay? And if their businesses burned down, and a
Speaker 2: lot of them did, they're not going to be going
Speaker 2: to work anytime soon. The ripple effect of this kind
Speaker 2: of thing is just almost overwhelming when you start contemplating
Speaker 2: the subtleties and the sub layers that go on when
Speaker 2: entire neighborhoods and city size swaths of land just disappear
Speaker 2: in a moment's notice. I mean, this thing's only been
Speaker 2: going on for three and a half days. The Eaton
Speaker 2: fire and Pasadena area damaged more than five thousand structures.
Speaker 2: It was this thirteen thousand, six hundred acre fire yesterday.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they made any progress since yesterday.
Speaker 2: It is early in the morning. A new fire broke
Speaker 2: out yesterday afternoon. West Hills neighborhood of LA's San Fernando
Speaker 2: Valley lit up, started spreading in the neighboring Ventura County,
Speaker 2: quickly growing to one thousand acres, and officials had to
Speaker 2: issue new evacuation orders in morning for those regions, saying
Speaker 2: that it was likely to grow rapidly because of yes
Speaker 2: the winds continue to blow and most of them uncontained. Yesterday,
Speaker 2: of course, firefighter resources stretched to the limits, smoke literally everywhere,
Speaker 2: and even where the fires aren't close by and jeopardizing buildings,
Speaker 2: They've still had to shut down schools because, well, the
Speaker 2: air quality index is so bad. I guess people can't breathe.
Speaker 2: But part of me wanted to say, well, if you
Speaker 2: can't breathe in a school and you close the schools
Speaker 2: because of that, well where are you going to go
Speaker 2: to breathe? Since the entire area is basically filled with smoke.
Speaker 2: President Biden said that the federal government's going to be
Speaker 2: covering one hundred percent of the disaster response for one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty days. That's up from the seventy five
Speaker 2: percent and normally covers corner to Biden, I told the
Speaker 2: governor local officials spare no expense to do what they
Speaker 2: need to do to contain these fires. Can they turn
Speaker 2: the water on? That's been a real problem for the
Speaker 2: residents of Los Angeles, and I think if there's one
Speaker 2: major criticism we can levy on them, shouldn't you at
Speaker 2: least adequately prepare for water pressure. You live in a
Speaker 2: dam tinderbox brought about largely from just well ignoring the problem.
Speaker 2: And there are many out there screaming about global warming.
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders blaming global warming on this. Eight hundred or
Speaker 2: eighty thousand people told to evacuate plazes, zero percent contained
Speaker 2: eight months, since the area is seen rained, The scale
Speaker 2: of damage and losses unimaginable. Climate change is real, not
Speaker 2: a hoax. Donald Trump must treat this like the existential crisis.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: All right on that particular note. Gavin Newsom and many
Speaker 2: many other Democrats blaming global warming or climate change for
Speaker 2: the fires. You love in a tinder box, You have
Speaker 2: no water pressure. You haven't done a damn thing to
Speaker 2: remove the brush and all the tinder that's surrounding you.
Speaker 2: You haven't put any fire breaks in. You haven't done
Speaker 2: anything at all to address the real problems that exist
Speaker 2: right now. So let's say climate change man made. Responsible
Speaker 2: climate change is let's assume that for the sake of discussion,
Speaker 2: and that you know, fifty years from now the temperature
Speaker 2: will be one degree warmer, and that's the concern. I
Speaker 2: guess the sea levels are going to rise, and you
Speaker 2: know New York City's going to be underwater. Whatever. Okay,
Speaker 2: between now and then, this so called climate change created
Speaker 2: problem can be addressed and must be addressed with real
Speaker 2: time right blos Linkan now threats that this thing has
Speaker 2: allegedly created, in other words, the dry conditions and the
Speaker 2: tinder box that they're sitting in. How about cleaning out
Speaker 2: the tender how about adequately preparing for fire responses. How
Speaker 2: about well, maybe getting a water supply and rather than
Speaker 2: release all the water into the ocean because of a smell,
Speaker 2: maybe you need more water resources because oge climate change
Speaker 2: has created this problem. But we're gonna have to deal
Speaker 2: with the real problem between now and then, which is
Speaker 2: the risk, the genuine risk that this whole thing may
Speaker 2: go up like a box of matches, which look it
Speaker 2: just did. So are they're busy spending money on carbon
Speaker 2: capture programs and trying to get people in an electric
Speaker 2: vehicle because well, climate change, they're letting the rest of
Speaker 2: the place create a genuine, life threatening right now problem.
Speaker 2: I think it's a failure priorities, folks, and you know
Speaker 2: they listen to somebody who doesn't believe that you and
Speaker 2: I respond with the ups and downs of the of
Speaker 2: the weather jays Louise. They said he's going to be
Speaker 2: the costliest wildfires in US history. Got JP Morgan and
Speaker 2: a couple of other sources saying, you know, the economic losses,
Speaker 2: economic losses fifty billion highly of insurance losses from natural
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Speaker 2: We'll call this Festivus California or Los Angeles Division, referring
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Speaker 2: Democratic mayor Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass getting slammed from
Speaker 2: a lot of people because she's last Los Angeles Fire
Speaker 2: Department budget by seventeen point six million Los Angeles fire
Speaker 2: departments and a couple of top goals for them diversity, equity,
Speaker 2: and inclusion as opposed to fire preparedness that's been widely reported,
Speaker 2: Bass claiming in a press conference just yesterday, none of
Speaker 2: the reductions would have been impacted situation that we're dealing
Speaker 2: with over the last couple of days, and then also
Speaker 2: having the audacity and nerve to add that the city
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Speaker 2: have no idea what the city's budget is, but I'm
Speaker 2: certain that they're in tough budgetary times. Homelessness and the
Speaker 2: illegal immigrant problem is really soaking up a lot of resources.
Speaker 2: Let's just use that as an illustration. It's happening, it's real.
Speaker 2: And yet Los Angeles allocated one hundred thousand dollars to
Speaker 2: the Civil plus Human Rights and Equity Department for what
Speaker 2: they call a midnight stroll transgender cafe that's in the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to twenty five budget. The purpose to
Speaker 2: support safe haven for unsheltered transgender individuals in Hollywood. See,
Speaker 2: they're breaking down the different types of homeless people. I'm homeless,
Speaker 2: I need help. Wait a second, hold on, are you transgender? No,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, move over, getting a different line. These funds
Speaker 2: are for unsheltered transgender individuals in Hollywood. Are you from Hollywood?
Speaker 2: And are you Transgender? One hundred thousand dollars allocated to
Speaker 2: the NAACP Awards. Almost nine thousand dollars for quote one Institute,
Speaker 2: the International Gay and Lesbian Archives, According to the reporting
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Speaker 2: The occult and the LGBTQ Movement. Thirteen grand for the
Speaker 2: quote Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and transgend Transgender Heritage Month pro
Speaker 2: plus fourteen thousand to the Gay Men's Chorus of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Thirteen grand apiece for the Los Angeles African American History Month,
Speaker 2: American Indian Heritage Month, Latino Heritage Month, and Asian American
Speaker 2: History Month programs. One hundred and seventy thousand dollars for
Speaker 2: quote Social Justice, art worker Investments and again. Los Angeles
Speaker 2: Fire Department blasted for promoting diversity equity inclusion initiatives in
Speaker 2: its twenty twenty three to twenty twenty six strategic plans,
Speaker 2: stating that DEI was one of its key goals, also
Speaker 2: stating a priority of the city's first LGBTQ and women
Speaker 2: Fire chief Kristin Crowley as promoting a culture that values DEI.
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Speaker 2: snow moving in. They say about eight am today floury's
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Speaker 2: throughout the day. It'll end around eleven o'clock at snow
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Speaker 2: mostly cloudy tomorrow with a high of twenty eight overnight
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Speaker 2: Thanks for calling. Welcome to the Morning Show.
Speaker 8: Fine, right, you know these this situation in California. I've
Speaker 8: been watching what I can of it. The thing is
Speaker 8: people in California keep voting these clowns in and when
Speaker 8: you vote clowns into power, only, don't be surprised when
Speaker 8: you have a circus you know that is happening in
Speaker 8: front of the world, and then you have high profile
Speaker 8: people that are that are you know, scouting about it now,
Speaker 8: which is fine, but I mean you talk about incompetence
Speaker 8: all the way from Gavin Newsom to this mayor, and
Speaker 8: when you dig into her background evidently she's you know,
Speaker 8: goes to Cuba on a regular basis. And also this
Speaker 8: infatuation on the l with this whole gay and transgender thing.
Speaker 8: I just don't get it, don't understand it, and I
Speaker 8: think I have a pretty good theory on why they
Speaker 8: may be doing it. But there's a there's a documentary
Speaker 8: out there called Out of the Shadows dot org if
Speaker 8: you can find it that goes into the whole relationship
Speaker 8: of Hollywood with with the government and the occult and
Speaker 8: all kinds of things. And then there was another one
Speaker 8: that was called like I think follow the Water or
Speaker 8: something like that. But you know, and I don't. I
Speaker 8: can't speak to the validity of all of it, but man,
Speaker 8: it sure does make you think. And it's just this
Speaker 8: infatuation with this DEI and I think it's starting to
Speaker 8: turn the corner and go the other way. But what
Speaker 8: a joke, I mean. And again, but these people keep
Speaker 8: voting clowns into office. And it's not just in California,
Speaker 8: it's in every major city in the United States, and
Speaker 8: Cincinnati included that. Yeah, yeah, so you know, you get
Speaker 8: what you you get the government that you vote for.
Speaker 8: And and and until people start standing up in the
Speaker 8: smaller communities and the smaller cities and saying enough is enough.
Speaker 8: The same thing that is happening in California right now
Speaker 8: with fires. And I'm going to be speaking a little
Speaker 8: bit out of turn, but we used to do a
Speaker 8: lot of riding down to Daniel Boone National Forest and
Speaker 8: there was a tornado that it went down through there
Speaker 8: several years ago and it was to a point where
Speaker 8: you couldn't even ride dirt bikes through most of the
Speaker 8: forest because it was so torn up. And Daniel Boone
Speaker 8: National Forests now they may have done work since, and
Speaker 8: so that's what I said. Maybe I'm speaking out of turn,
Speaker 8: but we were, we were, and they were closing down
Speaker 8: a lot of the trails and now it is it's
Speaker 8: completely closed down the off road riding. And we were
Speaker 8: saying that it's just a matter of time before Daniel
Speaker 8: Boone National Forest lights off. And we saw a little
Speaker 8: bit about it in Gatlinburgh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fireworks started that out.
Speaker 8: Just California. Yeah, but it's not just California. And but
Speaker 8: you're exactly right. This lack of forestry management, a lot
Speaker 8: of this, I'm not gonna say it could have been
Speaker 8: completely prevented, but it could have been maybe contained contained exactly.
Speaker 2: That's the point of putting in fire breaks, that's the
Speaker 2: point of regularly maintaining and cleaning out the brush that's
Speaker 2: well just basically a source of immediate combustion. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's how you start a fire. You start with tinder
Speaker 2: and then you start adding the big logs. And it
Speaker 2: was just basically and acres after acre after miles square
Speaker 2: miles of tender easily ignitable because they haven't had much rain.
Speaker 2: And like they said, go ahead, believe that it's a
Speaker 2: human caused climate change, but that doesn't mean you're not
Speaker 2: supposed to do something about it in the meantime while
Speaker 2: you're trying to take carbon out of the atmosphere. Ah,
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Speaker 9: Friday morning, no major problems to deal with from any
Speaker 9: new weather issues to deal with. Northbound seventy five at
Speaker 9: northbound fourth seventy one, both wide open on the bridges.
Speaker 9: Chuck Ingram on fifty five KR Seed the Talk.
Speaker 10: Station, Can you play John the Fisherman.
Speaker 2: You just made Jeff a very happy man, Judge Drecker,
Speaker 2: it's been three weeks. He like you. Joe needs a
Speaker 2: Primus Fix. Well, I know it's readily available on Spotify
Speaker 2: and elsewhere. He probably owns his own copy. On finale
Speaker 2: two three though, before we get to the eastack oast
Speaker 2: it what Pete's got? Pete, thanks for holding over the
Speaker 2: very Happy Friday.
Speaker 3: Thanks Brian.
Speaker 11: I saw a news clip like the people trying to
Speaker 11: evacuate they got into big like traffic jams and then
Speaker 11: we're getting smoked out, and so they abandoned their cars
Speaker 11: and then they brought.
Speaker 8: In bulldozers and they were literally bulldozing the cars off
Speaker 8: the roads so that fire trucks are getting through.
Speaker 7: That was just unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Well, and what else do you do? I mean, if
Speaker 2: you're stuck in a traffic jam that is not moving
Speaker 2: and the fire is coming up to you, toward you,
Speaker 2: you need to save your life, so you get out
Speaker 2: of your car and you run for the ocean, which
Speaker 2: is what so many of those poor, those poor people
Speaker 2: had to do, leaving, of course, the responders to have
Speaker 2: the bulldoze. I mean, don't ever park in front of
Speaker 2: a fire hydrant because if there's a fire in the
Speaker 2: area that requires that hydrant, trust me, the UH firefighters
Speaker 2: will do everything they can to literally destroy your car
Speaker 2: by not smashing the windows out, running hoses through them
Speaker 2: and everything. I don't think that's you know, I think
Speaker 2: it's designed to teach a lesson generally speaking, don't park
Speaker 2: in front of a fire hydrant. But in times like this,
Speaker 2: life is far more important than moving your car out
Speaker 2: of the way. And I doubt those books had really
Speaker 2: any place that they could put their cars. So yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, it was just an absolute panic. Listen. I
Speaker 2: had a dear friend that was stuck in that fire
Speaker 2: that was just mentioned in the last segment and Gatlinburg.
Speaker 2: He was staying in one of the chalets. The fire
Speaker 2: was coming up the hills, they got surrounded. He had
Speaker 2: to drive out, could not see more than a foot
Speaker 2: in front of his car. And if you've ever seen
Speaker 2: those windy narrow roads that are are in and around
Speaker 2: the Gatlinburg area. It's scary enough to drive on them
Speaker 2: when the weather's fine. He is surrounded by fire. He
Speaker 2: was so hot in his car he could barely stand it.
Speaker 2: He was able to get out, Thank God. He's just
Speaker 2: such a great guy. But he and his wife literally
Speaker 2: thought they were going to die that close to death.
Speaker 2: And so I forgive those people all day long for
Speaker 2: abanning their cars in the street and saving their lives.
Speaker 2: Let's see, here we go to the stack of stupid. Apparently,
Speaker 2: if you're strolling downtown this week, we're in let us
Speaker 2: see we can't figure out downtown Boston happened to spot
Speaker 2: four very large and very naked pink guys awkwardly wedged
Speaker 2: between buildings, climbing trees or climbing on rooftops. Don't worry,
Speaker 2: it wasn't a drug induce hallucination. The display the latest
Speaker 2: brain shout of Winter Active, the art initiative previously brought
Speaker 2: you last year's viral and described as creepy clown heads
Speaker 2: known for their bold and unconventional approach to public art,
Speaker 2: Winter Active is back to inject a little weirdness in
Speaker 2: whimsy into Boston's notoriously bleak winter months. Their mission to
Speaker 2: get us all outside reminded the winner just doesn't have
Speaker 2: to be gray skies and icy sidewalks, And, as the
Speaker 2: reporter notes, who wouldn't want to stop and snap a
Speaker 2: selfie with a giant pink guy casually perched on a ledge.
Speaker 2: This year's exhibit, probably funded by the Boston taxpayers, features
Speaker 2: fifteen artworks and interactive play elements scattered throughout the city.
Speaker 2: Officially kicking off the fifteenth w interactive clearly loves a
Speaker 2: good surprise. The playful pink naked guys blow up dolls
Speaker 2: started showing up and they'll be on display until March thirtieth.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you there are taxpayer dollars related to that.
Speaker 2: And since it's Friday, let's get one naked story in
Speaker 2: here before we take a break. We got a tradition
Speaker 2: in Polk County, North Carolina, where a man was found
Speaker 2: naked before his arrest in the home of a child
Speaker 2: he met on social media. R Andrew Murray, District Attorney
Speaker 2: for Henderson, Polk and Transylvania Counties, announced that Jesse Bernard Floyd,
Speaker 2: twenty four pleaded guilty to a list of charges sentence Monday.
Speaker 2: According to investigation of court trial records, he met and
Speaker 2: befriended the child on the social media website Sniffies and
Speaker 2: started soliciting the child for nude pictures and sex. After
Speaker 2: building an online report, Floyd able to convince the child
Speaker 2: to follow Floyd to come to the child's home in
Speaker 2: Pole County. He became The child became nervous about the
Speaker 2: meeting and told a family member Floyd, found naked in
Speaker 2: the home of the child, was attempting to carry out
Speaker 2: a sexual act with a child before being arrested. Pleaded
Speaker 2: guilty to attempted statutory sexual offense with a child fifteen
Speaker 2: years or younger, taking indecent liberties with a child, and
Speaker 2: soliciting a child by computer, disseminating obscenities to a minor
Speaker 2: under the age of sixteen period five point fifty one
Speaker 2: fifty by Kersbecaux Station. We do get a little more
Speaker 2: leeway in terms of content five o'clock hour and while
Speaker 2: I will not read the entire article. Pro tip if
Speaker 2: you're getting an MRI, make sure you don't have a
Speaker 2: sex toy in your rectum. As described in the Daily Mail,
Speaker 2: patients suffered horrific injuries after leaving. The sex toy insorted
Speaker 2: into her rectum during a medical procedure, was inside the
Speaker 2: patient's back passage during a routine MRI scan. Why are
Speaker 2: you doing that? No idea resulting in a hazardous reaction
Speaker 2: between the powerful magnets in the MRI and the metal
Speaker 2: parts inside the toy. Post from social media detail how
Speaker 2: the powerful magnetic forces used in the MRI detail scans
Speaker 2: pulled the metallic core of the silicone toy through the
Speaker 2: patient's rectum and up into her chest cavity. Patient apparently
Speaker 2: believe the sex toy was one in silicone, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't It had a metal core. But then again, why
Speaker 2: are you doing that? Whether or not you believe that
Speaker 2: to be a good idea in the first instance, don't
Speaker 2: you think just as a matter of well common sense,
Speaker 2: you might want to take it out before getting an MRI,
Speaker 2: which most assuredly would reveal whatever it is you've thought
Speaker 2: was a rise idea to insert inside you?
Speaker 12: Now, who can argue with that?
Speaker 2: Good? A bat Louisiana woman at the Mall of Louisiana
Speaker 2: rang in the New y Air naked video posted on
Speaker 2: x shows the woman jogging through the main corridor of
Speaker 2: the mall fully nude, while bystanders. Of course, we're turning
Speaker 2: to stare and take a bunch of pictures. Cord to
Speaker 2: the Bad News Police, the incident happened January third, about
Speaker 2: one pm. An officer was working a special assignment at
Speaker 2: the mall reported that the mall secure initially notified about
Speaker 2: the woman running through the mall partially undressed, with later
Speaker 2: updates confirming no she was fully nude. Women eventually found
Speaker 2: inside Dillard's and detained by mall security. Courton Local is
Speaker 2: They believe the woman could have been under the influence
Speaker 2: of narcotics at the time. Really, New Hampshire, Gary, thanks
Speaker 2: for calling this morning. You're interrupting the naked people in
Speaker 2: the stack and stupid New Amster Gary, welcome back. That's okay.
Speaker 3: I I feel like we really live in a clown world.
Speaker 8: We really do.
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 2: Well, I let me assure you. I guarantee you as
Speaker 2: sure as I'm sitting here. The only reason we feel like,
Speaker 2: you know that the world is really coming on glued
Speaker 2: with all this kind of stories and the craziness is
Speaker 2: because as we have the Internet, which immediately brings the
Speaker 2: most bizarre stories that may have been locally reported back
Speaker 2: in the day we had local newspapers, but brings us
Speaker 2: to the full attention of the entire world because everybody
Speaker 2: and his brother will repost and bring it to our
Speaker 2: attention because it's so batcrap insane.
Speaker 3: You know what, fact, Brian, I'm so much. I feel
Speaker 3: so important.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, you get ready for an MRI today,
Speaker 2: are you? Gary?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be sure to take care of myself before
Speaker 3: I go. Oh my goodness, thank god, it's Friday, right exactly.
Speaker 3: Oh gee, hey, I can probably get a discount down
Speaker 3: there in so Samati. You got your m I place
Speaker 3: down there? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the good plug for them.
Speaker 2: Plug a plug crazy. I'm surprised Joe let that one slide.
Speaker 2: He was such a slow moving soft right on in
Speaker 2: right okay, dgis. Oh my goodness, are you done?
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't help but to think of this uff.
Speaker 3: I've been watching this agenda free guy. He's kind of
Speaker 3: a geek, but he's really good at covering this on
Speaker 3: YouTube and he actually put broadcastify with uh the.
Speaker 2: He's a newscast or.
Speaker 3: He's kind of geeky, but he really has it and
Speaker 3: they have a chat with it, and it's kind of
Speaker 3: like a news source and you're just watching non filtered.
Speaker 3: It's called non Agenda, and it's on YouTube, and you
Speaker 3: kind of get an idea of what really is going
Speaker 3: on the magnitude of how serious this is. But I
Speaker 3: was just watching an article apparently a they're getting people
Speaker 3: who are starting now I saw a couple of them
Speaker 3: that have been caught with torches in their hands. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they look like they're homeless people or they're not
Speaker 3: really well off, and they're going to these neighborhoods and
Speaker 3: they're torching them up. Yeah, and they got a couple
Speaker 3: of those on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a report in New York Posts among others,
Speaker 2: as it's widely reported. We got one taken a homeless
Speaker 2: person taken to custody in Los Angeles for starting a fire.
Speaker 2: So it was the Kenneth fire that was started by
Speaker 2: this particular homeless individual. And there's other videos circulating as
Speaker 2: well that I've seen. And again, you know, if you
Speaker 2: want to do massive damage and you are one of
Speaker 2: these type of people, And that go back to my
Speaker 2: conversation with the guy from Breitbart earlier in the week
Speaker 2: about these lone individuals. You know, it could be an active,
Speaker 2: intentional terrorism done by a person who just absolutely hates
Speaker 2: you know the fact that everybody in Pacific Palisades lives
Speaker 2: in a three and a half plus million dollar home,
Speaker 2: and oh, look around you. There's enough kindling to immediately
Speaker 2: start the whole place on fire. All you need is
Speaker 2: a pack of matches that could be behind any one
Speaker 2: of these fires. But we do have reports of arrests
Speaker 2: for people intentionally starting fires. So crazy world. That's why
Speaker 2: you need to take precautionary measures. The world's an imperfect
Speaker 2: place and it's filled with a bunch of crazy people.
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Speaker 2: you could hear from Dave Hatter Tech Friday, Dave Fredder
Speaker 2: from Interest I T Today they fired the fact checking
Speaker 2: group that worked for Zuckerberg's Facebook, Meta got rid of
Speaker 2: them for political bias. FBI. Apparently China has access to
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Those are the topics with Dave at
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Speaker 2: We also have Todd Zinzer and studio our watchdog of
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Speaker 2: bunch of topics dealing with the city and the county,
Speaker 2: Keegan Corkor and our wine expert. Why dry January hurts
Speaker 2: the hospitality and retail business. Apparently that social media post
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Speaker 2: Rebecca Cerndorf at eight thirty, Ohioan's for Child Protection Divine
Speaker 2: signed it into law, and we'll talk about what that
Speaker 2: means for the state of Ohio. And children, meanwhile tapping
Speaker 2: into the expertise to the editorial board of the Wall
Speaker 2: Street Journal and just summing up the stupidity of government.
Speaker 2: Now I already pointed out, you know, all these folks
Speaker 2: screaming about global warming, and if it wasn't for global
Speaker 2: warming or climate change, those fires would not be raging
Speaker 2: in California. If you believe that I got a bridge,
Speaker 2: I want to say it, but it reveals prioritization, prioritizing
Speaker 2: all these woke green policies for something that may or
Speaker 2: probably won't happen one hundred years down the road, spending
Speaker 2: countless billions of dollars on that, but not paying attention
Speaker 2: real time to real problems that could result in catastrophes,
Speaker 2: like the catastrophe that's literally going on before our very
Speaker 2: eyes out in California right now. Nobody cleaned it up,
Speaker 2: Nobody put fire breaks in, Nobody anticipated needing like water pressure.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what happens if we have a fire. Well,
Speaker 2: we got smelt to worry about. So hey. Public officials
Speaker 2: are supposed to be prioritizing and doing the right thing
Speaker 2: and anticipating real time, real life challenges that exist right
Speaker 2: now now, pivoting over along those same lines to what
Speaker 2: California has done to itself in so far as insurance
Speaker 2: is concerned. Journal op ed board California wildfire insurance catastrophe.
Speaker 2: The state has refused to let insurers do proper pricing
Speaker 2: for risk. Homeowners and taxpayers will pay for the mistake.
Speaker 2: I'd say right, the politicians are blaming each other for
Speaker 2: the losses and the horrific Los Angeles wildfires, but the
Speaker 2: truth is that Mother Nature can be merciless. The stories
Speaker 2: about water shortages are conflicting any more time to sort out,
Speaker 2: but it's not too soon to note that California's politicians
Speaker 2: have fueled a five alarm insurance market crisis that will
Speaker 2: hurt homeowners and taxpayers across the state once the fires
Speaker 2: have died out. Hurricane Force Win US fanning the fires
Speaker 2: across Los Angeles County, especially Pacific Palisades and Alta Dina,
Speaker 2: where two thousand structures to burn by Thursday evening. Actually
Speaker 2: it's more than that. Ten people now reportedly are dead.
Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of buildings remain at risk. California's Southland
Speaker 2: has rarely experienced such strong winds in the past two
Speaker 2: wet winners produced loads of combustible vegetation that became tender
Speaker 2: after the recent dry months. See you had great weather
Speaker 2: causing growth, followed by dry weather, which creates tinder. Such
Speaker 2: conditions have created a perfect storm that could become the
Speaker 2: most expensive wildfire disaster in US history. The human tragedy
Speaker 2: is paramount, but the insurance losses will be in the
Speaker 2: tens of billions of dollars or more. The damage could
Speaker 2: topple the states under capitalized insurer of last resort. It's
Speaker 2: called fair fai R. The again the insurer of last resort.
Speaker 2: Private carriers are almost certain to increase premiums, canceled policies,
Speaker 2: or withdrawal from the entire state of California, insurers that
Speaker 2: already scrapped hundreds of thousands of policies in limited coverage
Speaker 2: of wildfire prone areas. Democrats blame climate change, which has
Speaker 2: become an all purpose excuse for any disaster relief failure.
Speaker 2: But the real insurance problem is that the state regulators
Speaker 2: have barred insurers from charging premiums that fully reflect risks
Speaker 2: and costs. California is the only state that heretofore hasn't
Speaker 2: allowed insurers to incorporate the cost of reinsurance in premiums
Speaker 2: until this year. It has also prohibited insurers from adjusting
Speaker 2: premiums by using the standard injury industry practice of catastrophe
Speaker 2: modeling to protict the property's future risk. Insurers can only
Speaker 2: assess premiums based on historical losses. Consequently, insurers are paying
Speaker 2: out one dollar and nine cents in expenses and claims
Speaker 2: for every dollar they collect in premiums. Stay in the obvious.
Speaker 2: The journal notes this is financially unsustainable, which is why
Speaker 2: many have paired coverage in areas at high fire risk
Speaker 2: with expensive home State Farm dropped nearly seventy percent of
Speaker 2: policyholders in one Pacific Palisades neighborhood where the average hump
Speaker 2: price is three and a half million dollars. You see,
Speaker 2: let me just pause on that note, and this is
Speaker 2: where a lot of these celebrities live Pacific or lived
Speaker 2: past tense. You're going to have to be a person
Speaker 2: of means to afford a three and a half million
Speaker 2: dollar house. Average price is three and a half million,
Speaker 2: and they obviously there's a one some in there that
Speaker 2: just go way higher than that. I would imagine they
Speaker 2: probably could handle a really healthy, fat insurance premium. If
Speaker 2: State Farm jacked up the rates by you know, two
Speaker 2: hundred percent or something to deal with the risk that
Speaker 2: is associated with insuring a home in that area. Something
Speaker 2: tells me the folks in Pacific policy probably could have
Speaker 2: handled the insurance premium, but because of the rules and
Speaker 2: REGs in California, State Farm said, you know, let's screw it,
Speaker 2: we're out, We're leaving, We're done, dropping seventy percent of
Speaker 2: the policyholders there. Bye, So this insurer in the state
Speaker 2: of California of last resort, Fair now covers about half
Speaker 2: a million homeowners who can't obtain private coverage. Now here's
Speaker 2: where the rubber meets the road, folks on elected officials
Speaker 2: that are failing to do their job. Fair's exposure has
Speaker 2: now ballooned to four hundred and fifty eight to billion
Speaker 2: dollars as of last September, up from one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty three billion dollars four years earlier, with five point
Speaker 2: nine billion dollars exposure in this one Pacific Palisades area.
Speaker 2: All right, a lot of numbers there. Total insurance exposure
Speaker 2: four fifty eight one neighborhood five point nine billion in exposure.
Speaker 2: Are you ready? It has only seven hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: cash on hand to pay claims. Reminds me of underfunded
Speaker 2: pension programs for example. Why it's because state regulators have
Speaker 2: required Fare to cover higher priced homes while rejecting its
Speaker 2: proposals for rate increases to account for rising risk and liabilities,
Speaker 2: just like it has for private insurers. This home prices
Speaker 2: of construction costs increase to the liabilities. Building a quote
Speaker 2: unquote affordable housing unit in California can cost one million dollars.
Speaker 2: Last year, Fair president Victoria Roach testified to the state
Speaker 2: Assembly about the insurer's precarious finances, saying, quote, as those
Speaker 2: numbers climb, our financial stability becomes more in question. We
Speaker 2: are one event away from a large assessment. There is
Speaker 2: no other way to state it, because we don't have
Speaker 2: the money on hand, and we have a lot of
Speaker 2: exposure out there. If Fair fails, private insurers meaning their policyholders,
Speaker 2: are supposed to cover its claims based on their share
Speaker 2: of the market, but insurance premiums for many homeowners are
Speaker 2: setirized twenty to forty percent this year and even more
Speaker 2: in the future, and that was before the current fires
Speaker 2: to keep carriers from fleeing the market. California Insurance Commissioner
Speaker 2: Ricardo Laura last month said it long last that they
Speaker 2: could use catastrophe modeling and pricing in their reinsurance costs
Speaker 2: well thanks a lot such reforms were needed, but he
Speaker 2: also imposed costly regulations that may still cause some insurers
Speaker 2: to retreat, especially after the Los Angeles fires. Don't be
Speaker 2: surprised if Governor Gavin Newsom asked Washington, meaning you to
Speaker 2: pay for multimillion dollar homes that have gone up in smoke.
Speaker 2: Mister Newsom can blame climate change all he wants, but
Speaker 2: that does not absolve the state from the duty to
Speaker 2: adapt to its effects. If he really believes this. Unlike fires,
Speaker 2: California insurance catastrophe really is the fault of the Democrats
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Speaker 13: Hey, good morning there, Brian. I agree with what you're saying,
Speaker 13: because see, I have family that lives out there and.
Speaker 8: Friends, and sometime.
Speaker 13: You know, I feel for them, but sometime they just
Speaker 13: don't get it. They'll build, they build these beautiful houses
Speaker 13: and they won't even clear out like twenty fifty yards
Speaker 13: around them. They'll build and all this front. I mean
Speaker 13: if they build right in the middle of you know,
Speaker 13: a timber box and you try to say, hey man,
Speaker 13: you got you you should clear to see I'm not
Speaker 13: in Kentucky. Kentucky and Ohio. We clear out things because
Speaker 13: we know OF's coming. They'll pole right beautiful houses and
Speaker 13: I like I said, I love them, but I mean
Speaker 13: they just have a different mindset. They just don't get it.
Speaker 8: And they're supposed to be these.
Speaker 13: Natural people, natural but they won't clear around their stuff
Speaker 13: and they put in the most stupidest, with all due respect,
Speaker 13: stupid people like that lady was on there this morning,
Speaker 13: that one in California. Man, she she talk in the
Speaker 13: circle with doll do respect. They bring it on themselves.
Speaker 13: I mean, look at the people they put in there.
Speaker 13: They don't clear out around and you know they want
Speaker 13: to save the planet, but not clearing around. But I mean,
Speaker 13: they just got a different mindset with doll do respect.
Speaker 8: I love them, they just don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And again, you know they
Speaker 2: they want if they want to fight the existential crisis
Speaker 2: they believe global climate change is, but they're not dealing
Speaker 2: with the current realities of it. Like I said, concede
Speaker 2: the point. It's dry in California in spite of the
Speaker 2: fact they had a really wet couple of winters preceding
Speaker 2: this one. We're going to ignore that. But it's been
Speaker 2: dry for the last year. Oh my god, climate change
Speaker 2: is refault. We didn't get any rain for one year
Speaker 2: on the heels of two years worth of a lot
Speaker 2: with a lot of rain. Again, ignore that, and then
Speaker 2: they won't deal with the reality created by that right now,
Speaker 2: which is your house is built next to a giant matchbox.
Speaker 2: It's just fine. But you know what, let's pivot over.
Speaker 2: My parents used to have a condo in Naples, Florida.
Speaker 2: Now it was Inland. It was a condominium, second story
Speaker 2: in a three story building. It had been through a
Speaker 2: couple of hurricanes, you know, relatively unscathed. But in the
Speaker 2: final analysis, there are people who build multi, multi million
Speaker 2: dollar homes where right there on the beach, and they
Speaker 2: get hurricanes there, and the hurricanes wipe out multi multi
Speaker 2: billion dollar homes. Those little strips of of of of
Speaker 2: a barrier islands out there like that we saw devastated
Speaker 2: by the most recent hurricane. I mean, do you think
Speaker 2: it's prudent or smart to invest that much money in
Speaker 2: a home when literally even a low level hurricane is
Speaker 2: going to be washing waves up across it because well,
Speaker 2: the elevation of the little barrier island is only about
Speaker 2: three feet above sea level. Does that sound like a
Speaker 2: smart place to construct a home? I mean, back when
Speaker 2: New Orleans got hit by the hurricane, I mean, lord,
Speaker 2: how amighty hell hell broke loose on that? I made
Speaker 2: a point a bunch of times. You know, who's the
Speaker 2: guy with the bright idea to build a city that's
Speaker 2: below sea level right there where they get hurricanes? And
Speaker 2: they have historically because well, hurricanes have been happening. I
Speaker 2: guess as long as the globe's been spinning, Oh, it's
Speaker 2: never going to happen to me. Well, that's why insurance
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Speaker 7: So welcome back, well, Brian, Happy new Year to you
Speaker 7: and all your listeners. I'm glad to be here and
Speaker 7: glad you're back, and looking forward to hopefully another good
Speaker 7: year of crazy tech topics.
Speaker 2: You know that's going to be crazy tech topics. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, as I try to clear my throat, looks
Speaker 2: like Mark Zuckerberg has well found Jesus or something. He
Speaker 2: fired his so called fact checkers, and I thought it
Speaker 2: was a big, mean, like a comedic fun fest that
Speaker 2: the fact checkers fact checked themselves and said they weren't biased,
Speaker 2: And that's been kind of going around as a side
Speaker 2: splitting response for being fired. But leads is the name
Speaker 2: of this entity, and they were I guess subcontractors to
Speaker 2: to well take delete posts that you and I would
Speaker 2: put up online.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been interesting to watch this play out. It
Speaker 7: was kind of surprising to me when this news broke
Speaker 7: and the reaction to it has definitely been interesting, kind
Speaker 7: of from the Truth is Strangers in Fiction department, I mean,
Speaker 7: you know, ten years ago, we probably both would have
Speaker 7: laughed if we would have thought, hey, this kind of
Speaker 7: thing would happen in the first place, and then b
Speaker 7: we'd be talking about the reaction when it gets pulled out.
Speaker 7: You know, the community notes feature, because from what I've
Speaker 7: seen from Zuckerberg, he's basically indicated that they're going to
Speaker 7: switch on meta platforms Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, et cetera to
Speaker 7: more of an approach like ex uses right x slash Twitter.
Speaker 7: They have this community approach feature or community notes feature,
Speaker 7: where if somebody questions something, you know, you'll get a
Speaker 7: community note and in many cases, like Musk himself, will
Speaker 7: ask is this true community news? And you know you'll
Speaker 7: get a response. And the way it works over there
Speaker 7: is there's, you know, a group of people, people from
Speaker 7: each side, and then the consensus of that becomes the
Speaker 7: community more or less. It's a little more complicated than that,
Speaker 7: but you know, it basically provides a way to question
Speaker 7: the validity of something without necessarily taking it down right,
Speaker 7: And Musk has gotten community notes himself a couple of times,
Speaker 7: so it's interesting the way it works. I think it
Speaker 7: works pretty well, and from what I've seen from Zuckerberg.
Speaker 7: That's the approach they're going to take here, which has
Speaker 7: apparently made a lot of people who apparently appreciated the
Speaker 7: censorship very unhappy. I've seen some inside Baseball notes. I mean,
Speaker 7: who knows what's really true, Brian that you know now
Speaker 7: there's like chaos inside Meta because people are really unhappy
Speaker 7: about this change in direction. So, you know, I'm not
Speaker 7: a fan of Meta to begin with. I think it's
Speaker 7: definitely a step in the right direction, assuming they do
Speaker 7: it the way that X does it. But I guess
Speaker 7: we'll see what happens.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 2: I guess my question is, what are they afraid of?
Speaker 7: A good question? You know, the whole idea of community
Speaker 7: notes again, as I understand it anyway, I mean, I
Speaker 7: only know what I've read about it and seen the
Speaker 7: way it's worked real time on X. I like X.
Speaker 7: I'm a fan of X. I think X is probably
Speaker 7: the best place to go to get information quickly and
Speaker 7: to get what I would describe is more accurate information,
Speaker 7: simply because of the community notes feature and the fact
Speaker 7: that people can challenge things and you have, you know,
Speaker 7: folks who can then weigh in on it. So I'm
Speaker 7: a huge fan of X, especially for anything technology and
Speaker 7: cybersecurity related. It's by far the best place to go
Speaker 7: to get information quickly and know that you've got this
Speaker 7: community notes capability to provide some legitimacity good for lack
Speaker 7: of a better description, So yeah, balance that and legitimacy again,
Speaker 7: because people can say whatever crazy thing they want, and
Speaker 7: then you will have people say, well, no, that's it's
Speaker 7: not right. You know, here's the community note on why
Speaker 7: that's not the case.
Speaker 2: So it's like a footnote, like citing a reference source.
Speaker 2: So if I post something random without any citation, someone
Speaker 2: on community notes can say, no, you're wrong, and here
Speaker 2: is the learned treatise which points out all the reasons
Speaker 2: you're wrong. Here's a link that kind of thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. So, so I applaud Zuckerberg for moving in
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Speaker 7: really interesting that. You know, Zuckerberg actually when he announced this,
Speaker 7: said that, you know, this approach is going to be
Speaker 7: more like X, so you know, it remains to be seen.
Speaker 7: I haven't noticed any different, you know, with all these
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Speaker 7: of time on Facebook here lately. I haven't seen any
Speaker 7: difference in the way it behaves currently. Now, maybe that's
Speaker 7: just because no one I know has gotten a community
Speaker 7: note or whatever they're going to call it on Facebook.
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't recall him giving it a title
Speaker 7: like that, right, So we'll see. But I think it's
Speaker 7: a step in the right direction and a positive move,
Speaker 7: assuming they actually do what they said they're going to do.
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Speaker 2: Maybe we need interest I its help with our government
Speaker 2: computers because the Chinese hackers have been hard at work.
Speaker 2: What's this one about? I saw this alert from the FBI.
Speaker 2: This is frightening stuff day.
Speaker 7: It really is, Brian, because when you look at the
Speaker 7: big picture, right, take the hacking out of it for
Speaker 7: a second. I mean, if you're paying the attention to
Speaker 7: the news at all, almost everywhere you look there's some
Speaker 7: sort of potential or active conflict with the Chinese Communist Party.
Speaker 7: You know, there have been stories about Chinese ships dragging
Speaker 7: their anchors and ripping up the undersea cables that power
Speaker 7: the Internet yep, you know, increasingly critical in our interconnected world.
Speaker 7: There have been stories about the Chinese Coastguard and navy,
Speaker 7: you know, interfering with ships and around Taiwan, we've seen,
Speaker 7: you know, all kinds of complaints and concerns about Chinese
Speaker 7: apps like TikTok or Temu collecting your data, and so
Speaker 7: anywhere you look there's friction with the Chinese Communist Party. Again,
Speaker 7: I hate this. You know, the people of China are great.
Speaker 7: The government is a problem. It's increasingly adversarial to us.
Speaker 7: We continue to use their apps and buy their products,
Speaker 7: which which funds their ability to take these adversarial positions
Speaker 7: with us, and then you know, it's probably been almost
Speaker 7: two months since this story force broke that Chinese hackers
Speaker 7: had broken into various telecom companies and their networks. And
Speaker 7: as the story unfolds, you know, and this is this
Speaker 7: is almost always the case anytime you hear about some
Speaker 7: sort of breach or hack like this, usually over time,
Speaker 7: as more forensics are done, it's much worse than whatever
Speaker 7: was intentionally and originally reported. And as we've seen here
Speaker 7: now apparently there's at least nine big telecom companies, people
Speaker 7: like Verizon, AT and t et cetera, that have had
Speaker 7: some type of hacker infiltration into their networks. I think
Speaker 7: this was probably right around the time you went on break.
Speaker 7: It might have been Kevin I talked to about this.
Speaker 7: It's ironic because for a long time, you may recall, Brian,
Speaker 7: we've talked about it many times over the years, the
Speaker 7: FBI and other law enforcement agencies have been against end
Speaker 7: to end encryption because it makes it difficult, if not
Speaker 7: in possible, for them to get into people's stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, as a result of this hacking that again continues
Speaker 7: to be revealed apparently in worse and worse ways. You know,
Speaker 7: now they've come out, the FBI has encouraged people to
Speaker 7: use the end to end encryption. End to end encryption
Speaker 7: would be an app like Signal where at no point,
Speaker 7: you know, if I can get your device and unlock it,
Speaker 7: I could read your messages. But if I can't unlock
Speaker 7: your device, Signal doesn't have the key to unencrypt the data.
Speaker 7: Only the person at the other end would. So you know,
Speaker 7: that's the idea of end to end encryption. The data
Speaker 7: is encrypted all the way through the channels, all the
Speaker 7: way to both ends, only the authorized people that have
Speaker 7: the right keys can decrypt it. That's kind of a
Speaker 7: layman's explanation. So when you see them telling everyone that
Speaker 7: they should stop using unencrypted apps and they should only
Speaker 7: use encrypted apps, despite they're raising all kinds of cane
Speaker 7: about not being able to access this data when they have,
Speaker 7: you know, legitimate criminal activity they want to investigate. That
Speaker 7: should be a real wake up call to people. And
Speaker 7: you know, as best I can tell from all the reporting,
Speaker 7: there's no guarantee they've even gotten these people out of
Speaker 7: all these things. And they think about this for a second, Brian,
Speaker 7: you know, everything is digital Everything you do is online,
Speaker 7: you know, whether it's a phone call, a text, an email,
Speaker 7: your social media, whatever. You know, it's all going through
Speaker 7: these networks. So if it's not into end encrypted in
Speaker 7: theory they have, they could have, and possibly are still
Speaker 7: sucking up everything that's not encrypted. It's it's bad not
Speaker 7: to mention. You know that the data is one aspect
Speaker 7: of it. The other aspect is do they have persistent
Speaker 7: footholds in these networks that they could shut down if
Speaker 7: they wanted to? And then think of the chaos that
Speaker 7: was to think of what happened with CrowdStrike. Now, imagine
Speaker 7: if you could shut down basically everything because the networks
Speaker 7: that make it work go down.
Speaker 2: I trust me, I have you through my in my
Speaker 2: mind gone through the ripple effect horrors of something like that.
Speaker 2: And you know the idea that the Chinese Communist Party
Speaker 2: at any given moment could flip a switch and turn
Speaker 2: the power off or stop the water flowing, which is
Speaker 2: certainly a genuine possibility under these circumstances, it's the scenarios
Speaker 2: are nightmarish.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know this probably sounds far fetched to a
Speaker 7: lot of people, especially if you haven't paid any attention
Speaker 7: to the story. But I mean what you just described
Speaker 7: is absolutely well within possibilities. Yes, I'm not saying it's
Speaker 7: going to happen. I certainly hope it does not happen.
Speaker 7: But because everything is interconnected, because everything is digital, you know,
Speaker 7: at least you could cause some serious supply chain disruptions
Speaker 7: if you were able to knock all of this out
Speaker 7: for any significant period of time. And you know when
Speaker 7: you really dig into this, So here you go. Now
Speaker 7: it appears the issue is more widespread than first thought.
Speaker 7: The Wall Street General reporting to the group the group
Speaker 7: soll Typhoon. I don't know where they come up with
Speaker 7: these crazy names for these nation state hackers. The salt
Speaker 7: Typhoon may have had access for quote months or longer.
Speaker 7: And again you've got our government now telling you that
Speaker 7: you should use into end encryption. That Wall Street Journal
Speaker 7: goes on to say, quote Internet traffic from Internet service
Speaker 7: providers that account business is large and small, and millions
Speaker 7: of Americans of their customers may have had data harvested
Speaker 7: by this attack. And again I'm very concerned about that
Speaker 7: they could steal trade secrets. Who knows what they would know,
Speaker 7: what they could use for blackmail, etc. But the idea
Speaker 7: that they could still be in there and have some
Speaker 7: sort of you know, to your point switch they could
Speaker 7: flip that would shut one or more of these major
Speaker 7: telecom networks down. It could be a real catastrophe. So
Speaker 7: it's long past time, Brian, for us in this country,
Speaker 7: every person, every agency to get really serious about this,
Speaker 7: because we're no longer just worried about Okay, well you
Speaker 7: crash my computer and I lost my photos. Everything is interconnected,
Speaker 7: you know. Critical systems rely on other systems downstream, and
Speaker 7: while your critical system might be perfectly secure, some downstream
Speaker 7: system that goes down may bring down the critical system.
Speaker 7: So we've got we've just got to take this seriously,
Speaker 7: and people have got to start thinking about things like
Speaker 7: privacy and security and how can I, as you know,
Speaker 7: can I use an individual stop this? No, you can't,
Speaker 7: but can use an individual start making yourself more secure,
Speaker 7: doing a better job of maintaining your privacy, which ultimately
Speaker 7: impact this all positively. Yes, and we've got to get
Speaker 7: serious about this before something terrible happens.
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Speaker 2: Online at intest i dot com Dave phishing attacks they're
Speaker 2: on the rise apparently.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm hoping this doesn't come as a surprise for
Speaker 7: people with the stats are pretty shocking now, you know,
Speaker 7: I'm trying to get too caught up at any particular stats, Bryant,
Speaker 7: because there are numerous organizations out there tracking this, anyone
Speaker 7: from the FBI to Microsoft to you know, smaller organizations
Speaker 7: you've never heard of, but like you know, once the
Speaker 7: year Microsoft puts out a big report on cybersecurity, Verizon does.
Speaker 7: They're both very well known and you know, full of
Speaker 7: useful information, especially if you're a nerd like me. So again,
Speaker 7: I don't I don't want people to get too caught
Speaker 7: up in any particular stat but these stats are pretty alarming,
Speaker 7: and you know, sadly, because we see this every day
Speaker 7: out in the field working with prospects and clients. It's
Speaker 7: not at all surprising to me. Two hundred and two
Speaker 7: percent rise in overall phishing messages. Just in the last
Speaker 7: half of twenty twenty four, slash net, one of the
Speaker 7: one of the people who report on this fishing intelligence,
Speaker 7: support seven hundred and three percent surge and credential phishing attacks.
Speaker 7: So one of the things that I find frustrating about
Speaker 7: this industry is, you know, we come up with all
Speaker 7: this sort of technical jargon and mumbo jumbo that makes
Speaker 7: it hard for the average person to understand what it
Speaker 7: means and how it affects them. So, credential phishing is basically,
Speaker 7: in Layman's terms, I'm going to send out some kind
Speaker 7: of message. Fishing usually means email, but you've also got
Speaker 7: text based phishing, which is called smishing, You've got voice
Speaker 7: fishing fishing. So I'm going to send out some kind
Speaker 7: of message, might even be a post on social media, right,
Speaker 7: And when you click that link, usually there's some social engineering,
Speaker 7: there's some urgency you've got to do something before some
Speaker 7: terrible thing happens. Right, And when you click that link,
Speaker 7: you're going to end up on a log in page
Speaker 7: that looks exactly like the Microsoft that they sixty five
Speaker 7: log in, or exactly like the Google log in. So normally,
Speaker 7: when you hear credential fishing. They're trying to steal your
Speaker 7: user name and password because either because it's a targeted
Speaker 7: attack on a specific site, or because they know that
Speaker 7: people use the same user names and passwords over and
Speaker 7: over and if I can steal your user name and
Speaker 7: password your credentials for Facebook, that might also work for
Speaker 7: your bank or your email or whatever. Right, So to
Speaker 7: hear credential fishing, that's what they're talking about seven hundred
Speaker 7: and three percent surge. So why would that occur, Well,
Speaker 7: because they know many people use the same username and
Speaker 7: password on multiple accounts, and if I can get it
Speaker 7: for one, there's no telling what else I might be
Speaker 7: able to get into of yours and either impersonate to
Speaker 7: steal some sensitive data, or most likely and usually the
Speaker 7: end goal, to steal your money. And by using the
Speaker 7: same user name and password, by not turning on multifacture authentication,
Speaker 7: you're making it easy. I mean, I also want to
Speaker 7: point out Brian phishing is very easy and very cheap.
Speaker 7: It costs these bad guys virtually nothing to do these attacks.
Speaker 7: So you know a seven hundred and three percent surge
Speaker 7: on one hand, Well, it's cheap and easy, so of
Speaker 7: course they're going to go up and there's more people line,
Speaker 7: but it probably wouldn't go up that much. If these
Speaker 7: things weren't effective, right, they would figure out other ways
Speaker 7: to steal your money. So you know, when I see
Speaker 7: a surge like that, it tells me these things must
Speaker 7: be working. And they mentioned in this article, you know
Speaker 7: there's more of a shift to mobile based platforms again,
Speaker 7: things like your texts. They know it's harder to look
Speaker 7: at an email on a mobile device, or certainly a
Speaker 7: text on a mobile device and know whether it's legitimate
Speaker 7: or not. They reported mobile users face up the six
Speaker 7: hundred threats annually. Underscoring is shift away from email only
Speaker 7: phishing to multi channel approaches again, text, voice calls, postings
Speaker 7: on social media, and you know they break it down further.
Speaker 7: I know we're amount of time here link based threats.
Speaker 7: You know, another reason why these things are effective is
Speaker 7: when the good guys like Intrust are out there putting
Speaker 7: in systems to try to help your business eat this
Speaker 7: stuff before it ever gets delivered to people. Okay, so
Speaker 7: phishing attack A comes out, it points to some known
Speaker 7: website that's trying to harvest your credentials and it's Okay,
Speaker 7: so we can block that. Well, then they just set
Speaker 7: up a new one and then they send out another
Speaker 7: round of fission. So until that new site that's trying
Speaker 7: to harvest your credentials is discovered, it works. So so
Speaker 7: much of this. While there's all kinds of technological solutions,
Speaker 7: and there's all kinds of things you can do working
Speaker 7: with the right partners, and that you as an individual
Speaker 7: can do. Like I mentioned in that last segment, a
Speaker 7: lot of this ultimately boils down to education and awareness
Speaker 7: and being skeptical and understanding how these things work. That
Speaker 7: it's really easy for me as a bad guy, to
Speaker 7: send out hundreds of millions of messages and to set
Speaker 7: up a website that looks exactly like the Microsoft log
Speaker 7: in page or the Google login page, and to be
Speaker 7: extremely skeptical before you click on a link and then
Speaker 7: enter your credentials. I mean, if people would just get
Speaker 7: that well understood and stop doing that, you cut an
Speaker 7: enormous amount of this sort of fraud.
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Speaker 2: A very happy Friday, Love my Friday shown a fifty
Speaker 2: five care Sey Mornings show. I love him and Todd Zenzer.
Speaker 2: We're calling him our watchdog as city council as well
Speaker 2: as the Kenny Commissioner. Todd Zenzer the fifth Inspector General
Speaker 2: of the United States Department of Commerce back when he
Speaker 2: was sworn in in December of seven. He's got an
Speaker 2: amazing background. He does crunch numbers, he does pay attention,
Speaker 2: and he does show up at city council meetings from
Speaker 2: time to time. Todd Zenzer, Happy New Year to you,
Speaker 2: Welcome back, man. It's always great talking with you.
Speaker 12: Thank you, Brian, Happy new year.
Speaker 2: Always appreciate your thoughtful and insightful information. Let us begin,
Speaker 2: if we may. I know we got a lot to
Speaker 2: talk about, including the shooting information as well as the
Speaker 2: new arena. New arena anyway, but let's start with since
Speaker 2: a council meetings. I understand from our off air conversation
Speaker 2: you were there at the meeting on Wednesday and was
Speaker 2: the city hard at work doing city council business relating
Speaker 2: to matters within the city.
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, you're given an opportunity. Theoretically, you're given two
Speaker 12: minutes to make public comments before every city council meeting.
Speaker 12: You go in, you fill out the card, tell them
Speaker 12: what you want to talk about. But for the last
Speaker 12: year and four months, the public comment period has been
Speaker 12: dominated by supporters of the Palestinians or the people in Gaza,
Speaker 12: and they're very passionate, they're very emotional when they speak.
Speaker 12: There were probably, I think there were only six supporters
Speaker 12: of Gaza population there on Wednesday, but in meetings past
Speaker 12: there have been dozens who get up and speak.
Speaker 7: And the.
Speaker 12: Issue is that the city council has brought this on itself.
Speaker 12: That back in October, several days after the terrorist attacks,
Speaker 12: the city council passed a resolution by the mayor and
Speaker 12: Mark Jeffries in support of Israel. And as a result
Speaker 12: of that, the supporters of the Palestinians have come in
Speaker 12: every week and made a plea to the city council
Speaker 12: to condemn Israel and calling for a boycott or of whatever,
Speaker 12: not sending any weapons.
Speaker 2: Divesting because the city has such a real tight connection
Speaker 2: with the affairs of Israel and Palestine, and of course
Speaker 2: the city is in a position to do something about it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 12: Well, there are people very upset with the city council
Speaker 12: forgetting us in this situation.
Speaker 2: Well, I understand that because regardless of where you are
Speaker 2: on the situation, you're in favor of Israel, you're in
Speaker 2: favor of Palestine. You're in favor of, I don't know,
Speaker 2: naval contemplation. The city has no control over it. It
Speaker 2: is it walked into an issue that it shouldn't have
Speaker 2: walked into. This is like a you know, Bud Budweiser
Speaker 2: making the foolish mistake of hiring the transvesti guy to
Speaker 2: promote bud light. I mean, why would you enter into
Speaker 2: that realm and invite the conversation. I mean, didn't you,
Speaker 2: I mean, didn't they anticipate that there might be a
Speaker 2: little bit of backlash for them waiting into the controversy.
Speaker 12: I don't. I don't think. I don't think they did.
Speaker 12: Brian and the pointless gesture though. The result is that
Speaker 12: the initially the mayor would extend the public comment period
Speaker 12: until everybody was done, including members of the public who
Speaker 12: want to talk about city issues. But on Monday he
Speaker 12: announced that he was going to stick to the rules
Speaker 12: of the Council that were enacted or passed back when
Speaker 12: the back when the Council started in twenty two and
Speaker 12: its extends the public comment period for thirty minutes, and
Speaker 12: everybody gets two minutes, and if the third minutes is
Speaker 12: over and there's people waiting to talk they'll just have
Speaker 12: to come back next week. Sorry sucks they get on
Speaker 12: the list. So fortunately the meeting on Wednesday was not
Speaker 12: that well attended and there was only like three or
Speaker 12: four of us other than the supporters of the people
Speaker 12: in Gaza. So we all got a chance to speak.
Speaker 2: To speak to matters relating to the cities, affairs and
Speaker 2: things over which council has control, right like snow removal
Speaker 2: for example.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so which they all were patting themselves on the
Speaker 12: back about how well they were doing in snow removal.
Speaker 12: I mean, there's no nobody who's raising their hands saying,
Speaker 12: well what about didn't we just hear that Mount Adams is.
Speaker 2: So it's just they have anybody from Mount Adams show up.
Speaker 2: They said, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 12: So, but the city council doesn't doesn't engage in those
Speaker 12: kind of conversations. It's all for one and one for all.
Speaker 2: Right, well, how does this work? So you ignore during
Speaker 2: the whole Israel Gaza thing, And again they stepped in
Speaker 2: that fort and got themselves in a jam that in
Speaker 2: passing a resolution that ultimately has zero impact or point.
Speaker 2: But you want to talk about an issue, or you
Speaker 2: raise the issue of let's say snow removal. You get
Speaker 2: your two minute comment period. I live in Mount Adams
Speaker 2: and you guys didn't shovel a single street up there.
Speaker 2: And are are they required as a body to respond
Speaker 2: to that or do they just listen, nod attentively and
Speaker 2: when the comment period is over, move on to whatever's
Speaker 2: on the agenda in front of them, in other words,
Speaker 2: not addressing the specifics of the challenges that people bring up.
Speaker 12: In front of them. Right, it's the latter, Brian.
Speaker 2: I figure that so.
Speaker 12: And the thing you look for is whether or not
Speaker 12: they're even paying attention to you. Oh, you know, that's
Speaker 12: because they can pull their phones their phones, look at
Speaker 12: their phones. But I do think they were fairly attentive
Speaker 12: during my two minutes when I was talking about the
Speaker 12: shootings in Price Hill, because there were six or seven
Speaker 12: of them over the New Year's holiday or New Year's
Speaker 12: week and that's not normal.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. And I know we're we're definitely going
Speaker 2: to focus on that in detail when we come up
Speaker 2: after the next break. But insofar as the agenda items
Speaker 2: on the council's agenda, did they have anything that you know,
Speaker 2: that had a point or that was going to that
Speaker 2: it is going to impact the population of the city
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. I mean, what would they focused on.
Speaker 12: Actually was the shortest meeting I'd ever been to. It
Speaker 12: was it was over by like twenty minutes after two.
Speaker 12: The only I guess they're setting up things for the
Speaker 12: coming year. But the only thing on the on the agenda,
Speaker 12: for example, that had anything to do with money was
Speaker 12: getting approval to apply for a one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 12: grand from Bloomberg Philanthropics for youth climate change Oh Lord program.
Speaker 12: And I guess it's an existing program in the city
Speaker 12: now that I guess Bloomberg has funded it, I don't
Speaker 12: really know, but that's the kind of thing spending resources on.
Speaker 12: Applying for grants is a big, big thing in the
Speaker 12: city of Cincinnati. They apply for a lot of grants federal, state,
Speaker 12: private philanthropic organizations.
Speaker 2: Well, considering you know, time translates to money because of
Speaker 2: salaries and you know people behind the scenes that have
Speaker 2: to fill out paperwork and all that. What have you
Speaker 2: ever done any number crunching on how much time and
Speaker 2: effort goes into let's say, applying for a one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars grant from Bloomberger. Mean, do they spend fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars worth of time, effort, and energy applying for
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars grant? Is it something along those lines?
Speaker 12: Well, I do not believe the city has a cost
Speaker 12: accounting system in place where they can tell you how
Speaker 12: much time people are spending on what task. For example,
Speaker 12: on connected communities, they said they were working on that
Speaker 12: for two years. They've got a hundred person not a
Speaker 12: hundred person, yeah, about one hundred person planning staff, all right.
Speaker 2: But paid positions.
Speaker 12: Yes, they spend over a million dollars on planning alone
Speaker 12: in terms of people and resources. So you don't know
Speaker 12: how much time any of these employees are spending on
Speaker 12: any task. But I don't really know how you can
Speaker 12: manage without that.
Speaker 7: So the.
Speaker 12: Point that I don't think people spend a lot of
Speaker 12: time thinking about is in business, it takes money to
Speaker 12: make money, right, We've all heard that absolutely. In government
Speaker 12: it takes money to spend money, and so they it's
Speaker 12: it's a self fulfilling thing. The more government grows, or
Speaker 12: the more they spend, the more the government grows, it
Speaker 12: never ends.
Speaker 2: Right because unlike a business, they just take from the
Speaker 2: taxpayer's labor and in the form of taxes.
Speaker 12: That's right, that's exactly right, and.
Speaker 2: It's not a money making entity. It is big government
Speaker 2: by its nature is designed to I guess, spend where
Speaker 2: the private market wouldn't otherwise spend, because they're spending money
Speaker 2: on nonprofitable things or things that they try to tell
Speaker 2: you will ultimately be profitable because of the economic impact
Speaker 2: of say building a multi billion dollar stadium or something.
Speaker 12: Right. So again, the more they go after these kind
Speaker 12: of funding sources, grants and things like that, the bigger
Speaker 12: the government grows.
Speaker 2: And as if there weren't enough climate change programs out
Speaker 2: in the world that they need to chase down those dollars.
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Speaker 2: Seven twenty one if the five KRCD talks to talk station, sorry,
Speaker 2: former Spector General Todd zends or he's for comm Inspector
Speaker 2: General for the City of Cincinnati. And pivoting over to
Speaker 2: the crime statistics that you just alluded to in the
Speaker 2: last segment, Todd's ends are not looking really good from
Speaker 2: a crime perspective in the City of Cincinnati, judging from
Speaker 2: the data post it and you can find it your
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Speaker 2: emergency medical service reports, just a whole host of information
Speaker 2: and statistics about the city. So let's break down the
Speaker 2: information you brought in, Todd, because again this is what
Speaker 2: you brought up at council on Wednesday, right, and your
Speaker 2: your specific point in the comment period was.
Speaker 12: Well, I raised three issues I had. I had sent
Speaker 12: an email to the mayor and the city council members
Speaker 12: and the city manager asking what is going on? I mean,
Speaker 12: why isn't anybody coming out going to the microphones for
Speaker 12: West Price Hill, East Price Hill, Lower Price Hill to
Speaker 12: tell us what's going on with these shootings? And so
Speaker 12: that was number one, why don't we ever hear from
Speaker 12: anybody when an unusual violence like this occurs? Number two,
Speaker 12: I told them that nobody really has confidence in your
Speaker 12: crime data. We're told that crime is going down. In fact,
Speaker 12: I got a response from one member of council, Anna Albie,
Speaker 12: that's the first thing. Well, the first thing she did
Speaker 12: was blame the state legislature for something, and then she
Speaker 12: said that she said that it's getting better, right, it says, well,
Speaker 12: it doesn't feel better. People aren't experiencing that crime is
Speaker 12: going down. They're experiencing that crime is going up. And
Speaker 12: then the third point I made was last year the
Speaker 12: city consolidated two police districts, District three, which covers the
Speaker 12: West Side, in District five, which is like North College
Speaker 12: Hill and Westwood they combine those into one district. Well
Speaker 12: that's almost half the city, it sure is. And I said, well,
Speaker 12: has there been an assessment of that? We ought to
Speaker 12: revisit this whole consolidation thing, because for a police officer
Speaker 12: to speak from one end of the district to the
Speaker 12: other end of the district, I'm going to take if
Speaker 12: forty five.
Speaker 2: Minutes, so giving an opportunity for the perpetrator to sort
Speaker 2: of maybe leave the area perhaps, Yeah, so I thought
Speaker 2: we should revisit that whole consolidation.
Speaker 12: Well, after I was finished with my public comments, I
Speaker 12: did talk to a couple of the council members and
Speaker 12: was told that there is a reassessment or an assessment
Speaker 12: of that consolidation that they're expecting very soon. So that's
Speaker 12: one thing that they're going to do that is in
Speaker 12: the right direction.
Speaker 2: Well, the idea that they're even looking at it, I suppose,
Speaker 2: is the only step in the right direction you can
Speaker 2: point to. That's what they actually conclude or come up
Speaker 2: if by way of assessment.
Speaker 12: We have to wait and see, right, So I did
Speaker 12: wind up speaking to somebody on our community council and
Speaker 12: they related that youth violence is down, But when you
Speaker 12: go to the data reports online, they don't show any
Speaker 12: data concerning youth violence. It doesn't go down to that level.
Speaker 12: So I don't know how they know that.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you have to take their word for it
Speaker 2: on that one element of crime. But then the broader
Speaker 2: thing is they can say, well crime's going down, you
Speaker 2: have to actually have a police officer respond and fill
Speaker 2: out a report in order for it to be documented.
Speaker 12: Correct, That's right.
Speaker 2: And my understanding is it given the pathetically low morale
Speaker 2: rate of the police department and the fact that they
Speaker 2: know prosecutors perhaps now under the new administration as well
Speaker 2: as the woke judges aren't really going to do anything
Speaker 2: about it. They have a well screw it kind of
Speaker 2: approach to going after criminals. Right.
Speaker 12: I think that's a I think that's a real issue, Brian.
Speaker 12: And so when I suggested that we conduct an audit
Speaker 12: of the day, that is one of the things you
Speaker 12: would look at is how are we collecting this for example,
Speaker 12: what is a shooting, what constitutes a shooting in their records,
Speaker 12: and how consistent are they and coding the data in
Speaker 12: their system? And I think factors like the ones you
Speaker 12: just brought up with with how the police are actually
Speaker 12: keeping the data for us. Yeah, I think that's a
Speaker 12: real issue.
Speaker 2: Right, So somebody's kids got a gun, fires it, maybe
Speaker 2: hopefully doesn't hit anybody in the cop cruises by. All right, son,
Speaker 2: break it up, move along, you know, and that it's
Speaker 2: a crime. But and I maybe this may be an
Speaker 2: exaggerated sort of scenario, but that's the kind of thing
Speaker 2: that won't result in anything. So youth committing violence, maybe
Speaker 2: committing an act of vandalism or riding a trail bike
Speaker 2: across the public parks or something, if the cops don't
Speaker 2: interact with them, then there's nothing there, even though the
Speaker 2: citizenry is well aware this kind of thing is going
Speaker 2: on because they can and see with their very eyes.
Speaker 12: That's right.
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Speaker 2: Seven thirty one fifty five KRCD Talk Station and Brian
Speaker 2: Thomas Worth in studio, Former Inspector General Todd Zenzer, who's
Speaker 2: always keeping his eye on the figures and the numbers,
Speaker 2: the antics of Cincinna City Council as well as the
Speaker 2: county commissioners and we will touch upon county county issues
Speaker 2: here shortly, but let's continue with the crime statistics. And
Speaker 2: you know, obviously reporting is a significant problem. Maybe they'll
Speaker 2: be looking into how things are reported, like to think
Speaker 2: they might do a reshuffle of matters over in the
Speaker 2: Cincinnai Police Department given the low morale. Are we still
Speaker 2: low on police officers time?
Speaker 12: Yes? I think the budget number is about a thousand
Speaker 12: and eighty nine. Is the staffing level they want to
Speaker 12: get to, and I think they're down in the eight
Speaker 12: eight hundred or eight close close to nine hundred level.
Speaker 2: So are are are are they doing recruit classes? Are
Speaker 2: they are they trying to hire and just having difficult
Speaker 2: time getting people to want to become police officers? Or
Speaker 2: is the money there? I guess, you know.
Speaker 12: I do think that they did something about the last
Speaker 12: training class where they postponed it or they did something
Speaker 12: like that, but I'm not really sure what the status
Speaker 12: of all that is.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, how about I know this idea has been
Speaker 2: floated around and actually experimented on in other cities. How
Speaker 2: about paying people to not commit crime? That that actually
Speaker 2: was something that they talked about.
Speaker 12: Well, they not only talked about it, but they are
Speaker 12: They appropriated two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars to
Speaker 12: I guess contract with a group called it's called Advance Peace,
Speaker 12: and it's an outfit out of San Francisco where they've
Speaker 12: got six or seven cities in San Francisco where they've
Speaker 12: tried this program. And it almost sounds like something that
Speaker 12: your religious institutions would be involved in in the past,
Speaker 12: where they go out and they try to counsel of
Speaker 12: at risk youth and youth involved in violence, and it's
Speaker 12: a it's a mixture of you remember the Scared Straight
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's kind of the flip
Speaker 12: of that. Instead of bringing troubled youth or at risk
Speaker 12: youth into a prison to show what it's like, to
Speaker 12: show them what the future could be if they if
Speaker 12: they don't get on the right path, they actually are.
Speaker 12: This program pays a select number of youth to not
Speaker 12: commit crimes and instead turn around and help them reach
Speaker 12: out to the community.
Speaker 2: It just sounds so stupid on so many levels. Yeah, so, okay,
Speaker 2: we're subcontracting this agency, this organization. We retain them for
Speaker 2: a quarter of a million dollars. Then they in turn,
Speaker 2: we'll get money from the city to pay the kids
Speaker 2: not to commit crime. So there's an added ongoing expenditure there.
Speaker 12: That's part of the two seventy five.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so after this peace organization gets it slice
Speaker 2: that leaves even less money. How many youth can you
Speaker 2: actually reach out to? And how much do you have
Speaker 2: to pay a kid to not commit crime?
Speaker 12: I think it was like one thousand dollars a month
Speaker 12: or so.
Speaker 2: Oh wow. And they the pro they were working, you know, right,
Speaker 2: I mean just like fast food job or something like that,
Speaker 2: which is where a lot of people start out their
Speaker 2: work career. If they were busy at work, it could
Speaker 2: earn that much money, be contributing to society and not
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to commit crime because they're at work.
Speaker 12: Right, So they're saying the the the similarity to scarage
Speaker 12: straight instead of going into the prison. This program was
Speaker 12: actually started by guys who had been to prison, who
Speaker 12: knew what prison life was like. But they come out
Speaker 12: to the community and engage in counseling and all of
Speaker 12: this outreach to the youth in a neighborhood or in
Speaker 12: a portion of the city. And it's all very ill
Speaker 12: defined at this point as far as I can tell.
Speaker 2: All Right, going back to is there even a police
Speaker 2: report to find a quote unquote troubled youth? Wouldn't that
Speaker 2: suggest that they've already had an interaction with law enforcement
Speaker 2: so you could identify who someone is that's likely to
Speaker 2: commit a crime.
Speaker 12: I do believe that that is part of the program.
Speaker 2: Okay, so first you got to find the troubled youth.
Speaker 2: Then you work out this relationship where you're paying them
Speaker 2: a thousand dollars a month to not commit crime. Now,
Speaker 2: assuming that youth actually got picked up by the police
Speaker 2: for being involved in some sort of criminal activity, do
Speaker 2: they have to disgorge the money that they were paid
Speaker 2: up to that point in time? And how likely is
Speaker 2: it blood from returnative that you would be able to
Speaker 2: get the money back assuming they have that obligation.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't think you would look forward to getting
Speaker 12: that money back, Brian.
Speaker 2: That's why I always ask questions. I know the answer
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Speaker 2: and Happy Friday to you. We're gonna have Keegan Corcoran
Speaker 2: on our resident Wine Extra. He doesn't live here, but
Speaker 2: like to call him that anyway. Our sommier friend, Keegan
Speaker 2: good Man. He is why dry January hurts the hospitality
Speaker 2: and retail business. He had a social media post on
Speaker 2: that it caused a bit of a stir, so Keegan
Speaker 2: to join us at eight oh five to talkers, I
Speaker 2: guess too, is abou why we should continue to drink
Speaker 2: in January? The former US Inspector General Todd Zinzer and
Speaker 2: studio going through these crime statistics and before we move
Speaker 2: away maybe from crime, and start talking about getting a
Speaker 2: new arena, the program to pay youth not to commit crimes.
Speaker 2: Do we have any evidence that even works? Is I mean,
Speaker 2: it's preposterous sounding.
Speaker 12: Well, the only thing that I did was went back
Speaker 12: to the there's eleven cities nationwide where this outfit has operated.
Speaker 12: So I went on and did some research on crime
Speaker 12: in each of those cities, and the headlines all look
Speaker 12: the same. It doesn't. You don't see any headlines about
Speaker 12: drastic reductions in youth crime. But in their this outfit
Speaker 12: got a two million dollar grant from the Department US
Speaker 12: Department of Justice in twenty twenty three to fund activities
Speaker 12: and he's eleven cities, and in their grant application they
Speaker 12: claim that they prevented one hundred and thirty four shootings
Speaker 12: or firearm incidents and saving partner cities sixty seven to
Speaker 12: two hundred and sixty eight million dollars.
Speaker 2: Those are sphincter inspired statistics. Todd, there is no way
Speaker 2: in God's green earth you can know that you prevented
Speaker 2: any individual from going out and acquiring and using a firearm.
Speaker 2: I mean, here's your check, young man. Don't commit crimes, okay,
Speaker 2: and so that one kid abides and doesn't commit a crime.
Speaker 2: Is that to suggests that that kid would have actually
Speaker 2: gone out and shot somebody but for the check?
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, I mean that's nonsense. Unfortunately, I don't think
Speaker 12: the Department of Justice went in and verified that information
Speaker 12: before they gave them two million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you can't verify information that is pulled out
Speaker 2: of someone's sphincter.
Speaker 12: I eat, Yeah, I don't know how you measure.
Speaker 2: That, Brian. I'm sorry, I just sometimes my brain just
Speaker 2: can't process that epic level of stupidity. Things like this represent. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these are ideas that I guess council has been convinced.
Speaker 2: Is this group come into cities sort of like a
Speaker 2: lobbying group and convince members of these various councils that
Speaker 2: this is the right thing to present.
Speaker 12: Well, I think that's a good question, Brian. But nobody
Speaker 12: on the council. We got nine people on council. One
Speaker 12: person brings this forward and it's like, well, is anybody
Speaker 12: asking any questions about where this outfit came from? How
Speaker 12: we came to know about them. I get the impression
Speaker 12: that you know, they have a network around the country.
Speaker 12: They know that this particular council member is sympathetic to
Speaker 12: the cause, and they approach her and work something out.
Speaker 12: But how it comes to be is a very very
Speaker 12: good question.
Speaker 2: Well, I think everybody's sympathetic to the idea about stopping crime.
Speaker 2: But if you lack logic and reason and critical thinking
Speaker 2: skills and you can be convinced that something like this
Speaker 2: is a good idea, the problem is we don't have
Speaker 2: people intelected capacity that have critical thinking skills and think
Speaker 2: along the lines of hm, let me just test the
Speaker 2: theory with a few questions right now, like where did
Speaker 2: you get that crimes that that didn't happen? Information?
Speaker 12: Right, So, I think there are probably people on council
Speaker 12: that can think like that, but because they don't, it's
Speaker 12: one one for all and all for one on the
Speaker 12: city council. There's very little dispute.
Speaker 2: Which paints them all as idiots. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: would if I'm a Democrat or something and I'm sitting
Speaker 2: in an all Democrat council and someone comes with a
Speaker 2: dumb idea. You know, stupid is as stupid does. Dumb
Speaker 2: is dumb is dumb. You're not taking me down that road.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be labeled as an idiot. I've
Speaker 2: got a I'm calling a red flag here on behalf
Speaker 2: and in the name of the reputation of our party.
Speaker 2: You know you could be a real patriot by standing
Speaker 2: up stuff like this. Let's stop, Let's talk arena when
Speaker 2: we come back with Todd Zen's er. One more segment
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Speaker 2: If you have KR city talk station, Tryan Thomas in
Speaker 2: studio with Todd Zenzer closing out the hour talking about
Speaker 2: city council and city issues generally speaking, and former inspector
Speaker 2: general and watchdog for the collective here in the Hamilton
Speaker 2: County generally speaking, and also can give us an analysis
Speaker 2: on first off, was it first Star arena right fka
Speaker 2: the Coliseum? Yeah, I've seen a gazillion shows there. I
Speaker 2: remember when the since I Stingers were in town. I've
Speaker 2: seen hockey games play there. Not the best venue acoustically speaking,
Speaker 2: But is it has it outlived its useful life? Is
Speaker 2: it's still functional as a venue? Do we need a
Speaker 2: new arena, which is what they're talking about just generally speaking.
Speaker 12: Yeah, So the Regional Chamber of Commerce issue to report
Speaker 12: back in November, and the report was all slanted towards
Speaker 12: needing a new arena. Well, they want to bring in
Speaker 12: bigger names, they want to tie the new convention Center
Speaker 12: to things going on in the arena, and it's it's
Speaker 12: kind of trying to boost Cincinnati to another level of
Speaker 12: entertainment or conventions and things like that, similar to Louisville.
Speaker 12: Louisville has a big arena down there the what is it,
Speaker 12: the Yum Yum or.
Speaker 2: Kfc UH I lose track of rights.
Speaker 12: But they the report that they put together, of the
Speaker 12: study they put together, did identify you know, peer cities
Speaker 12: and the the UH Stadium or Colisseum type venues compared
Speaker 12: to Heritage Center, and it all makes the Heritage Center
Speaker 12: look bad. But what's interesting is that after they issued
Speaker 12: their report, the Heritage Center claimed that the that the
Speaker 12: Chamber commerce data was not correct, that they didn't they
Speaker 12: didn't report the correct data about the number of events
Speaker 12: at the Heritage Center and things like that, and the
Speaker 12: other thing that came to mind when I looked at
Speaker 12: the report, it it was very similar to the Cincinnati
Speaker 12: Futures Commission, which is which was basically dead on arrival
Speaker 12: with the city as far as we know, or it's
Speaker 12: gone underground for now, and it's very notional. It's like,
Speaker 12: if this happens, we could do this, if this law passes,
Speaker 12: we could get this type of funding. And what they
Speaker 12: did is they constructed on paper the type of facility
Speaker 12: that they.
Speaker 2: Wanted, their dream facility.
Speaker 12: Yes, and then they went back to Heritage Center and says, well,
Speaker 12: we can't fit that kind of facility where the Heritage
Speaker 12: Center is currently located. Instead of saying, well, we've got
Speaker 12: this location down on the river, what kind of facility
Speaker 12: can we put there, uh, you know, to get to
Speaker 12: where we want to go, they did. They didn't do that,
Speaker 12: and so that's what yesterday or the day before, the
Speaker 12: group down at the banks, there's actually a group that
Speaker 12: runs the banks, they came out with their own plan
Speaker 12: and they claimed that they could fit a bigger facility
Speaker 12: on that same location right there. Yeah. And the the
Speaker 12: thing is that if you move the colisseum or the
Speaker 12: arena over to the OTR area or wherever Birdie wants
Speaker 12: to put it.
Speaker 2: Well, there's talk about the west end right yeah, and
Speaker 2: then that would be the way. So that would also
Speaker 2: includes maybe the area around the new Convention Center. And
Speaker 2: then there's over the Rhine as a possibility where they
Speaker 2: going to put it next to the hard Rockets.
Speaker 12: I think that, yeah, there's a there's a location up
Speaker 12: near Hard Figure, but you know that the powers of
Speaker 12: b want to put it over there next to what
Speaker 12: is tqute, yeah, the soccer venue. Yeah, but if they
Speaker 12: leave the banks, if the arena leaves the banks, that's
Speaker 12: going to impact the businesses located at the banks. Were
Speaker 12: kind of we've spent all these resources developing that area,
Speaker 12: and now we're going to take one of the venues
Speaker 12: that we built up there and do away with it.
Speaker 12: And so the business community at the banks came out
Speaker 12: the other day and they have they have an alternative proposal.
Speaker 12: In the mayor he's kind of swaying. He originally said
Speaker 12: we didn't need a new arena. Then he said that, well,
Speaker 12: I could be persuaded otherwise, And now he's saying, well,
Speaker 12: I have to figure out how we would pay for it,
Speaker 12: all right.
Speaker 2: I was waiting for that because that was gonna be
Speaker 2: my next question. Whether it's there over on the West
Speaker 2: End or any place else in the Cincinnati area, pick
Speaker 2: a spot, anywhere is there money to build it.
Speaker 12: No, they'd have to borrow it, or they'd have to
Speaker 12: somehow get the money from somewhere.
Speaker 2: But I would interfere with the second leg of the streetcar. Todd.
Speaker 12: Well, I'm sure streetcar funding isn't there somewhere.
Speaker 2: Todd sensor. You know, it's humorous, it's comical, but this
Speaker 2: is real stuff, and it's going on right now by
Speaker 2: our elected officials, and it just it just leads me
Speaker 2: to wonder whether they really have a handle on how
Speaker 2: to run government, because you know, I know every one
Speaker 2: of my listeners can say their favorite road that has
Speaker 2: not been paved or repaired in years. I always joke
Speaker 2: about Sunset. That thing has been a nightmarish, you know,
Speaker 2: import from some war zone for fifteen years or so,
Speaker 2: and it has been fixed. And every year the number
Speaker 2: of roads that have gone unrepaired gets longer and longer
Speaker 2: and longer. I mean, you got to take care of
Speaker 2: the stuff you've got before you start trying to buy
Speaker 2: new stuff and things. And no one seems to care
Speaker 2: a wit about what we've got. Going back to like
Speaker 2: the broken windows theory, it's all broken out there. Let's
Speaker 2: start repairing some windows. Todd's in there, thank you for
Speaker 2: being the watchdog on behalf of the Hamilton County voters
Speaker 2: and the residents of the City of Cincinnati, and of
Speaker 2: course outside observers who might want to learn from the
Speaker 2: mistakes that we've made so they don't do it themselves.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year to you, my friend. I look forward
Speaker 2: to having you on again throughout the year.
Speaker 12: You so much.
Speaker 2: Just hold your hand up when there's something else that
Speaker 2: pops up you want to talk about. It's seven fifty six.
Speaker 2: Stick around, We're gonna get We're gonna from Keegan Corkoran
Speaker 2: our wine some actually kind of redundant when I say that,
Speaker 2: why dry January is bad for the hospitality and retail business.
Speaker 2: Plus reject Rebecca Serandov's going to the door for other
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about a Highlands for child protection.
Speaker 2: Dwine finally signed the legislation into law. It took a
Speaker 2: long time to pass. We'll recap that journey with Rebecca
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour.
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Speaker 2: It's so rare for me to be excited week days
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Speaker 2: Very happy Friday to you. It's allays a good day
Speaker 2: when you get to talk to Keegan Corcoran, one step
Speaker 2: away from being the highest tier samier on the Planet'll
Speaker 2: getting it to it soon enough.
Speaker 7: On that.
Speaker 2: Also, he is the owner of Ignition Wines, which is
Speaker 2: a wine wholesaler. I love to put a plug in
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Speaker 2: So if you're a retailer selling wines, you're a you're
Speaker 2: a restaurant selling wines, you just talk to Ignition Wines.
Speaker 2: He's got access to all these wonderful, wonderful wines pre
Speaker 2: tested and tasted with his expertise, you're getting steered in
Speaker 2: the right direction. Welcome back to the fifty five Cadsey
Speaker 2: Morning Show, my dear friend Keegan Corker, and it's always
Speaker 2: great having y a man.
Speaker 7: Hey, Brian, how are you.
Speaker 2: Doing pretty well? Happy New Year to you? Yeah, thank
Speaker 2: you you too.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm first off.
Speaker 4: Apologies of my voice because I'm.
Speaker 1: Fighting a seasonal thing going on.
Speaker 2: Well, you need to drink a little bit more in January,
Speaker 2: which is the point having Keegan on. Normally he's in
Speaker 2: studio and we we don't sample wines because you can't
Speaker 2: do that, but we talk about him. He gives us
Speaker 2: great wine recommendations at the right times a year, and
Speaker 2: you know, Thanksgiving and Christmas and the like. And we'll
Speaker 2: continue to do that with Keegan. But notably, and I
Speaker 2: had never heard of this, but apparently there's something out
Speaker 2: there in the world called dry January. It's analogous to lent.
Speaker 2: I suppose you give up drinking during the entire month
Speaker 2: of January and you made a public service announcement on
Speaker 2: your Facebook page the other day. Dry January hurts hospitality,
Speaker 2: slash retail and does nothing long term important emphasis for
Speaker 2: your health. Take one week and a month off instead.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of comments in response to that,
Speaker 2: and many of them are not pleasant. You didn't expect
Speaker 2: expect that, did you.
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 4: It led off a firestorm apparently. And you know what's
Speaker 4: funny is that, like a lot of people I think
Speaker 4: that responded to that negatively were interpreting that as some
Speaker 4: kind of personal attack and or some kind of indictment
Speaker 4: on them participating in dry January or going sober, which
Speaker 4: I have done many stints of variety over my over
Speaker 4: my life for you know, personal or physical reasons or whatever,
Speaker 4: you know, trying to drop some weight, especially around the holidays.
Speaker 4: I understand it.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: My My point was though, is that you know, when
Speaker 4: restaurants and bars especially, you know, still a lot of
Speaker 4: them still reeling from the post COVID effects. And then also, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean we see articles that feel like
Speaker 4: every single day of new restaurants and bars closing left
Speaker 4: and right.
Speaker 2: So this is.
Speaker 4: Historically a very difficult time for restaurants and bars post holidays.
Speaker 4: It's usually the slower period, the weather is usually you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, shoot, Cincinnati, look outside, We've got you know,
Speaker 4: a foot of snow still on the ground. So it's
Speaker 4: it's it definitely has an impact on those hospitality and
Speaker 4: industry workers, and it's it's just kind of a funny thing.
Speaker 4: And and and so my my point was, listen, you know,
Speaker 4: you could take one weekend off every month, so that's
Speaker 4: per year, and that gives you twelve different weekends. Just
Speaker 4: my pure arithmetic, you got a better and more sustainable
Speaker 4: lifestyle change that's healthier for you, it's better for your pocketbook.
Speaker 4: But I don't think a lot of people really bother
Speaker 4: to do the math on that.
Speaker 12: And then.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny as I had a bunch of
Speaker 4: people send me private messages off off uh, you know,
Speaker 4: off off the actual thread and and and you know,
Speaker 4: express their like, hey, what why is everybody so angry
Speaker 4: at this?
Speaker 12: Is like, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand it either, And I mean some
Speaker 2: people call it insulting. I mean, obviously comments from folks
Speaker 2: who did it, alcoholics and have been on the wagon
Speaker 2: for any given period of time say well, you got
Speaker 2: to love people, try and do it a chance and
Speaker 2: be good to maybe his initial stepping stone to consider
Speaker 2: not drinking at all. But I guess why pile up
Speaker 2: in one month? As you point out, you know, and
Speaker 2: and and and and and I guess why January? It
Speaker 2: makes perfect sense that post holidays at the bars and
Speaker 2: restaurants would be doing less business. Everybody's been partying it
Speaker 2: up since Thanksgiving and so obviously people may be less
Speaker 2: inclined to go out again. The winter weather alone might
Speaker 2: keep people away, But why January, why not you know,
Speaker 2: June or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure. I think a lot of it
Speaker 4: has to do with you know, maybe it's everybody indulges
Speaker 4: a little too much over the holidays and they want
Speaker 4: to try to give their their bodies a little reset.
Speaker 4: And again I'm empathetic with that. I understand that. I
Speaker 4: totally understand people going after But my whole argument was heay, like,
Speaker 4: let's let's not just dedicate an entire months of the year.
Speaker 4: It's particularly the slowest time of the year for bars
Speaker 4: and restaurants to.
Speaker 7: Do this, and not an indictment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And it's not an indictment on anybody's you know,
Speaker 4: attempt to get sober or anything like that. If you
Speaker 4: want to make good choices for yourself, and if you
Speaker 4: have a bad relationship with alcohol, for example, it's probably
Speaker 4: not good idea for you to indulge at all, let alone,
Speaker 4: you know, just the one month out of the year.
Speaker 4: But then the other thing is is that just like
Speaker 4: most resolutions, it's it tends to be something that people
Speaker 4: don't stick around with. So it's it's to me, it
Speaker 4: kind of seems like a feudal effort that hurts an industry. Now,
Speaker 4: the the afteris all this is I am well aware of,
Speaker 4: you know, people maybe raising an eyebrow. It's like, oh, hey, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, you got a guy that sells alcohol that's telling.
Speaker 7: Us to keep buying alcohol.
Speaker 4: Isn't that Isn't that coincidence? And and I would say,
Speaker 4: you know what, my counter to that is, Brian, don't
Speaker 4: buy my wines in January?
Speaker 7: How about that? I don't, I don't care.
Speaker 4: This is this is a this is a larger statement
Speaker 4: that I think I would like to make on behalf
Speaker 4: of the service industry, which you all know.
Speaker 7: I I spent all.
Speaker 4: My entire adult life in Jeff Rubi's and worked with
Speaker 4: them and h and many other restaurants that I've worked with,
Speaker 4: and so the hostility and bar restaurant industry is near
Speaker 4: and dear to my heart, and I've I've witnessed and
Speaker 4: felt personally the impacts of that over the years. And yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just one man's uh, one one man's personal mission.
Speaker 2: I think that is important point to emphasize that you're
Speaker 2: you're not just a wholesale wine distributor now you are now,
Speaker 2: but you have such a familiar relationship with hospitality industry. Again,
Speaker 2: you're the sammier for Jeff Ruby's restaurants plural so for
Speaker 2: a very long time. So you actually saw all this
Speaker 2: real time. You understand the realities that the restaurants face
Speaker 2: at in the month of January. And of course, I guess,
Speaker 2: is this dry January a growing phenomenon that actually enough
Speaker 2: people are doing it that it could have an impact.
Speaker 2: You're trying to nip it in the bud before it
Speaker 2: becomes something bigger. What's what's your what's your take on
Speaker 2: that part of it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, I mean there's there Unfortunately, isn't
Speaker 4: too much data. There is some data that you know,
Speaker 4: I've seen over the years that a lot of bars
Speaker 4: and restaurants and even different different wineries and breweries have
Speaker 4: put out. The estimates range from ten to twenty percent
Speaker 4: of impact on alcohol sales for bars and restaurants in
Speaker 4: January alone. And that's that's not insignificant, particularly when you're
Speaker 4: dealing with excuse me, especially when you're dealing with already
Speaker 4: razors sin profit margins. These bars and restaurants operate often,
Speaker 4: so it's it's it's not it's not just you know,
Speaker 4: a drop in the bucket. And then and the counter
Speaker 4: of course too, there's a lot of people that say,
Speaker 4: you know, well, what about NA beverages and and low
Speaker 4: and no spirits and whatnot, which are starting to gain
Speaker 4: in popularity, and the cocktail. Yes, but this is this
Speaker 4: is one man's opinion. But I have yet to encounter
Speaker 4: one that tastes decent. And when you talk about d
Speaker 4: out wine or d out beer, you know.
Speaker 1: Again, I.
Speaker 4: Want to find one that actually is palatable in one
Speaker 4: humble fumily in his.
Speaker 2: Opinion, and I get that. I actually I quit drinking
Speaker 2: for I think it was seven solid years. Just woke
Speaker 2: up one day and said, you know what, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna do that anymore. We did a lot of entertaining
Speaker 2: when I was a practice of law in Chicago, and
Speaker 2: you know, I brought the bad habits back with me,
Speaker 2: and I just thought, you know what, I have no
Speaker 2: reason to continue at this level. And so just sort
Speaker 2: of woke up one day and went down that road.
Speaker 2: So I tried a whole bunch of non alcoholic beers
Speaker 2: over the time, and I don't think a single one
Speaker 2: was what I would consider palatable. So I share your
Speaker 2: your conclusions in that regard, but I don't regret, you know,
Speaker 2: drinking now at all. I thoroughly enjoy a cocktail and
Speaker 2: I find nothing wrong with it. And like everybody says,
Speaker 2: everything in moderation, it's something that allows you a certain
Speaker 2: level of enjoyment in life. Be bad for you on
Speaker 2: some level, but you know what, I'd rather live life
Speaker 2: in a happy, positive way and enjoy a couple of
Speaker 2: bad things, and that's just what makes life worth living.
Speaker 2: You take everything out that's bad for you, but you
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Speaker 2: drink anymore. Everything's carcinogenic. You aren't supposed to have any
Speaker 2: more processed foods. Everybody here, here's your bowl of quinoa
Speaker 2: and your salad, and that's all you get. I just,
Speaker 2: you know, there's a certain loss of enjoyment of life
Speaker 2: when it comes to things like that. Well, I just
Speaker 2: it's you know, the other component of the broader component,
Speaker 2: is that a simple what I would call innocuous opinion
Speaker 2: like that garnered so much not none of it's really
Speaker 2: angry or vile, but just so many just reactions along
Speaker 2: the lines of what you got it's just a really
Speaker 2: interesting phenomenon in and of itself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, you know, the the argument was for
Speaker 4: moderation and for you know, just general can control because
Speaker 4: uh and and perhaps you know, maybe I could have
Speaker 4: worshiped it differently. I don't know, but I thought it
Speaker 4: was pretty plain speakly or pretty plain speaking. But you know,
Speaker 4: moderation is the better choice if if you want to
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Speaker 4: And I think that that, I mean, if we want
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Speaker 4: it's it's. Uh, it's kind of an issue that I
Speaker 4: think a lot of people in this world today struggle with,
Speaker 4: is creating lasting change, creating you know, habits that are
Speaker 4: are are not only forthright, but also you know, just
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Speaker 4: surrounding them. It's yeah, it's it's it's something that you
Speaker 4: I guess, Uh, well.
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Speaker 2: A thirty fifty five KRCD talk station. Happy Friday, not
Speaker 2: a happy subject matter, but a happy outcome for the
Speaker 2: children in the state of behime from going on a
Speaker 2: going forward basis. Governor Mike Dewineseina bill into law this
Speaker 2: week making it a crime for predators to groom a
Speaker 2: child for sexual abuse using a pattern of behavior. A
Speaker 2: woman responsible a large part of Ohiolans for Child Protects,
Speaker 2: Rebecca Sirendorff, is on the phone to talk about her
Speaker 2: journey to get this bill enacted. Rebecca initially, let me
Speaker 2: thank you on behalf of myself personally and my listening
Speaker 2: audience and every parent of a young child out there
Speaker 2: for getting this pass and over the finish line, what
Speaker 2: I'm reading about this father Cutcher, for example, is just
Speaker 2: absolutely horrific and disgusting. Welcome to the fifty five care
Speaker 2: Sing Morning Show, Rebecca.
Speaker 10: Good morning, and thank you so much. Really, this was
Speaker 10: such a collaborative effort from moms and dads and grandparents
Speaker 10: picking up the phone and calling lawmakers to our bill sponsors,
Speaker 10: Bill Sites and Cindy Abrams and great committee heads like
Speaker 10: Manning and Hillier that helped usher this through. We had
Speaker 10: floor speeches from both sides the aisle and support and
Speaker 10: it went through unanimously in the Senate and all but
Speaker 10: one vote in the House. So this really took a
Speaker 10: village and hopefully we'll be able to collaborate again because
Speaker 10: there's way too much sex abuse in our state.
Speaker 2: Well it really is, and you know, the job is
Speaker 2: not over. As I'm looking at the reporting from wcpo's
Speaker 2: Paula Christian who was following this story, Ohio is the
Speaker 2: sixth that's six, number six in the nation to criminalize
Speaker 2: child grooming for sex. I find that impossible to believe. Rebecca,
Speaker 2: do you have any concept as to how or why
Speaker 2: that might be. Because we've had the Internet around in
Speaker 2: you know, social media and the like, which makes it
Speaker 2: so easy for perverts to reach out to children. People
Speaker 2: pretend to be young people and make friends online. We've
Speaker 2: heard story after story after story, and it has been
Speaker 2: going on for years. How is it that more states
Speaker 2: haven't done something about this?
Speaker 10: Well, I think in part it's a few factors, right.
Speaker 10: I think in our imaginations, a lot of us were
Speaker 10: raised with the concept of stranger danger, right. But the
Speaker 10: facts of child sex abuse is most children know their offender,
Speaker 10: and many families know them and trust them. When you
Speaker 10: look at online abuse right now, University of New Hampshire
Speaker 10: estimates that about one in six kids in our country
Speaker 10: are being exploited online and over sixty percent of those
Speaker 10: offenders online already know your child and their offline life.
Speaker 10: Many times they're presenting themselves as somebody else in peerage, right.
Speaker 10: And so, first of all, there's a lot of misconceptions
Speaker 10: about that how this works.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 10: We also as parents believe that because we sat down
Speaker 10: and talked to our kids about these things such a
Speaker 10: stranger danger or that people shouldn't touch you into certain
Speaker 10: places that your child will come home and tell you
Speaker 10: about the assault. And the sad reality is that delayed
Speaker 10: disclosure is a real problem for a child after they've
Speaker 10: been assaulted. Many offenders will threaten a child, They manipulate
Speaker 10: them in ways to make the child feel as if
Speaker 10: they're wrongly complicit in this abuse. They'll threaten to harm
Speaker 10: another sibling if they disclose, and also PTSD and trauma.
Speaker 10: Usually a child can be disassociating. There's a lot happening
Speaker 10: in the aftermath of assault, and your child may not
Speaker 10: come home and tell you, and sometimes just fear will
Speaker 10: you believe them is a problem. So it's important that
Speaker 10: we have programs like Aaron's Law that was just passed
Speaker 10: two years ago. But sadly, all the religious schools in
Speaker 10: our state were carved out of that, so we're not
Speaker 10: equally protecting the kids. It's only the public school kids
Speaker 10: with Aaron's Law training, and that's age appropriate body safety training.
Speaker 10: And many people will tell you that after a large
Speaker 10: school has that training, they have a few children step
Speaker 10: forward at the end of it, because this is trained
Speaker 10: professionals that know how to phrase things in the right
Speaker 10: way for the age of a child and their understanding,
Speaker 10: and it just gets to a different level because many
Speaker 10: times you have to describe a behavior, Like a forensic nurse,
Speaker 10: for example, is not going to ask someone have you
Speaker 10: been ranked? They will maybe describe the circumstances. That is
Speaker 10: because even labeling what an assault is is its own
Speaker 10: process for any age victim. Right, So getting evidence based
Speaker 10: approaches is so key, and that's why we've been calling
Speaker 10: for Sexual Violence Caucus up at the state House. We
Speaker 10: would like to get all the minds to the table,
Speaker 10: from lawmakers to forensic nurses, to the good folks that
Speaker 10: ohiolianced sexual violence, the council and child abuse. There's so
Speaker 10: many great organizations in our state and law enforcement, the prosecutors.
Speaker 10: Get these people to the table and let's start taking
Speaker 10: a comprehensive approach to updating our laws because predators are
Speaker 10: always updating what they're doing and how they're exploiting our children,
Speaker 10: and the legislative process can take a long time. This
Speaker 10: bill took five years to get to the finish line.
Speaker 12: Five Yes, I.
Speaker 10: Think about the children that were exploited in that time. Well,
Speaker 10: sta Is the Girls Report says one in five girls
Speaker 10: were sexually assaulted in Ohio in the last twelve months
Speaker 10: when they did a climate survey of our.
Speaker 1: Younger god and five.
Speaker 10: One in five, we're above the national average. Can you
Speaker 10: imagine if one in five cars were stolen this year?
Speaker 2: Ah, they be screaming, bloody nightmare. Let's I tell you what.
Speaker 2: We're not done with this conversation, re Beeck. I want
Speaker 2: to hold you over and talk a little bit more
Speaker 2: about it. I'm also curious to know about the lone
Speaker 2: no vote, but I want you to lighten my listeners
Speaker 2: as to how this will work and how this grooing
Speaker 2: process and how far it has to go before they
Speaker 2: might find themselves subject to criminal liability under this new law.
Speaker 2: Will continue with and thank God for her, Rebecca Cerndorff
Speaker 2: after these brief words.
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Speaker 2: A thirty nine coming on eighty forty fifty five KRC
Speaker 2: DE talk station. There are good people out in the world,
Speaker 2: and there's some terrible people out in the world. One
Speaker 2: of the good ones so fighting for protecting our young
Speaker 2: people from molesters and would be child rapist Rebecca Cerndorf
Speaker 2: on the program Highlands for Child Protection. It's easy to
Speaker 2: find her organization if you're a face on Facebook. Just
Speaker 2: search Ohilands for Child Protection to take you right to
Speaker 2: the web page. And congratulations on getting Mike Dwyane to
Speaker 2: sign this. It only took five years to get the
Speaker 2: bill that criminalizes grooming, and you mentioned it was unanimous
Speaker 2: with the exception of one House vote. Can I ask
Speaker 2: why that was?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 2: Was it a no vote or an abstention vote? And
Speaker 2: I was there any reason associated with not embracing this seemingly,
Speaker 2: I mean bulletproof from a needs standpoint bill.
Speaker 10: We'd never circle back with the lawmaker, but I would
Speaker 10: imagine that maybe they just wanted to just register that
Speaker 10: like a pause there of like, let's make sure it's
Speaker 10: narrow enough. And that's a good thing to have, is
Speaker 10: whenever you're looking to criminalize something, particularly when you're going
Speaker 10: to have a new crime in your state, you want
Speaker 10: to make sure that it's constructed in such a way
Speaker 10: that it won't be tossed out for vagueness or that
Speaker 10: your nets so wide that you would sweep up and
Speaker 10: assent people, because that is not our intention in any way.
Speaker 10: And after further vetting of this bill, everyone became much
Speaker 10: more comfortable with it, and it's great that that's how
Speaker 10: this process works in committee. And basically this is constructed
Speaker 10: to kind of mirror other parts of OHIO revised code,
Speaker 10: like pattern of behavior in grooming mimics that in stalking
Speaker 10: and stalking itself. Individual behaviors and stalking can be relatively innocent, right,
Speaker 10: Like if someone going past your house this morning, completely
Speaker 10: innocent behavior, isn't it. But if they came past your
Speaker 10: house eighty times in the one week, combined with.
Speaker 2: Like they show show up at your job site, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10: Right, I mean we all know the difference between like
Speaker 10: innocent behavior creepy behavior, and clearly there is more to
Speaker 10: this like threatening behavior, right right. And then that ties
Speaker 10: into this reasonable adult standard which is all over US laws.
Speaker 10: Is this notion of would any reasonable adults see that
Speaker 10: the purpose and purpose is also another keyword when it
Speaker 10: comes time writing laws. It is a higher standard than,
Speaker 10: for example, recklessness, right exactly, So does a reasonable adult
Speaker 10: see that this was for the purpose of sex abuse?
Speaker 10: And then the tear mirrors also are sexual battery laws.
Speaker 10: So if this is someone in a position of authority
Speaker 10: over a minor, such as a teacher or a coach,
Speaker 10: or a youth minister or a cleric, you now have
Speaker 10: a different tier for that. It also tears it for
Speaker 10: if there's drugs and alcohol and if the victim is
Speaker 10: under thirteen years of age. So this starts out as
Speaker 10: a misdemeanor and it becomes a felony based off of
Speaker 10: if you have priors for sex offenses as well, because
Speaker 10: we were still leaving the door open for like someone
Speaker 10: did not realize, like how very problematic their behavior with
Speaker 10: a minorus, that they have a chance to clean it
Speaker 10: up if they don't have that special relationship as a
Speaker 10: position of authority over the minor and that. But we
Speaker 10: wanted something that's going to come up on a background check, right,
Speaker 10: all these youth serving lords the background text, if they
Speaker 10: can't see that you have a history of grooming minors,
Speaker 10: then how are they going to guard the gates as
Speaker 10: to who has a lot of accets and authority over children?
Speaker 2: Fair enough? And I, you know, as I sit here,
Speaker 2: part of this reasonable standard I suppose is under what
Speaker 2: circumstances And I personally with the exception of you know,
Speaker 2: and my children are grown. My son's thirty, my daughter's
Speaker 2: twenty eight. But I'm projecting backwards and I'm remembering when
Speaker 2: they were younger, I might have a reason if I'm
Speaker 2: trying to find where my son is, and these these
Speaker 2: technological age we already kids got cell phones anyway, The
Speaker 2: only reason I can think I would even be interacting
Speaker 2: with someone who is this young would be maybe to
Speaker 2: try to track down my son. But that would be
Speaker 2: an innocuous sort of hey do you know where Jerry is?
Speaker 2: Kind of thing. It's a fair question to ask one
Speaker 2: of his friends, even if they're only twelve years old.
Speaker 2: But beyond that, why would any grown adult have reason
Speaker 2: to regularly communicate with a minor along these lines when
Speaker 2: they're not you know, a parental figure or someone that
Speaker 2: has an in local parentice relationship to that young child.
Speaker 10: Right, Well, there are forty two grooming behaviors that were
Speaker 10: found in some research by Winters in jaglists out of
Speaker 10: John Jay College. If I recall, and basically, the more
Speaker 10: these behaviors you see, the more apt that this is
Speaker 10: probably escalating or that abuse has already occurred. And they
Speaker 10: basically researched what was normal mentor behavior with people had
Speaker 10: never been abused and those that were, and there's a
Speaker 10: whole series of red flag behaviors that you're in a
Speaker 10: high risk situation if you were seeing them, and some
Speaker 10: of it is creating circumstances like we saw with the
Speaker 10: Sandusky case, creating circumstances to be showering with the youth,
Speaker 10: right that you were creating circumstances for nudities, encouraging young
Speaker 10: people the skinny dip with you, which we see in
Speaker 10: some of the investigative reports have been done on historic
Speaker 10: church abuse as well. Also adults that are texting minors
Speaker 10: about sex acts, but it is clearly not in the
Speaker 10: spirit of sex ad We all know what that really
Speaker 10: looks like in life, right to your health teacher or
Speaker 10: the parent or custodian of the child having a discussion
Speaker 10: with them, many times bringing thoughtful resources, particularly in a
Speaker 10: classroom setting. I mean, we all know how this is
Speaker 10: done right out of the health books, right and this instead,
Speaker 10: like if you look at the Culture case, I can't
Speaker 10: even quote some of the content there on the region
Speaker 10: because it's better regulated.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm reading some of it right now. This is
Speaker 2: why this is text messages back and forth. And again
Speaker 2: I'm trying to envision the circumstances why any adult would
Speaker 2: need to engage in any type of long back and forth,
Speaker 2: regularly occurring discussion with someone of that age. And this
Speaker 2: kid was I guess fourteen years old or I don't know,
Speaker 2: but for this this minister to be we have regularly engaged.
Speaker 2: This is not providing counseling or ministry. This isn't, you know,
Speaker 2: coming into the priest's office and sitting down and getting
Speaker 2: advice about the lord or something.
Speaker 10: I'm just and I think as parents and concerned adults,
Speaker 10: I would see this as that when you're seeing things
Speaker 10: that are starting to add up and you're concerned, right,
Speaker 10: First of all, like start monitoring the situation. Better, consider
Speaker 10: this like a yellow light situation here, and if this
Speaker 10: is happening at a school, you may want to start
Speaker 10: documenting the concerns or co child protective services. This is
Speaker 10: one of the things we hope will come of this
Speaker 10: is that now when you're reporting grooming behavior, you are
Speaker 10: now reporting a crime potentially right, and in the past
Speaker 10: this wasn't quite categorized as anything because it's very rare
Speaker 10: for someone to witness the sexual assault, and these things
Speaker 10: happened behind closed doors. The grooming is the smoke and
Speaker 10: there's usually a fire, right, but the responsible adults see
Speaker 10: the grooming behavior, and sometimes because these are young children,
Speaker 10: we're missing the larger context here. Like in the father
Speaker 10: Jeff Drew case, we saw reports from boys in three
Speaker 10: different counting over the course of multiple decades from the
Speaker 10: eighties right up until a few years before his arrest,
Speaker 10: that they were reporting they didn't like the hugs from behind,
Speaker 10: the hugs from behind. Well, these are young children. They
Speaker 10: knew they didn't like the hugs from behind, but it
Speaker 10: wasn't until I heard the victim impact statement two years
Speaker 10: after Drew's arrest when he was pleading guilty, that the
Speaker 10: victims spelled out as an adult man that Drew was
Speaker 10: aroused and rubbing himself on them. That's already a crime
Speaker 10: in Ohio. Right, But this gives back to vocabulary and
Speaker 10: the young mind.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the child isn't.
Speaker 10: The vocabulary for it. It'd be very difficult to train
Speaker 10: them to understand that moment better. Yes, but make into
Speaker 10: account the alarm that your child has. Right, Your child
Speaker 10: isn't coming home to report a hug that felt good.
Speaker 10: They're coming home because their body was telling them that
Speaker 10: they were in danger. And if anything, tell your child
Speaker 10: to trust themselves and their instincts. If someone's making them
Speaker 10: feel sick to their stomach, they should tell you about it,
Speaker 10: and they don't have to unpack it for you today,
Speaker 10: but they're allowed to proceed with caution. And I think
Speaker 10: it's also good for children to have a safe word.
Speaker 10: One of the great moms that we spoke to that's
Speaker 10: retired from working with exploited children, he said, it's great
Speaker 10: for your child to have something that they can text
Speaker 10: you or say to you. I think they're quite verifiable,
Speaker 10: but lets you know that they don't feel safe in
Speaker 10: this moment, whether it's a sleepover.
Speaker 2: Ye, Uncle, your child's hanging out it Uncle Jim's down
Speaker 2: the street too regularly that I mean, like that kind
Speaker 2: of thing. Red flag. Wait, why is a grown person,
Speaker 2: Why is a grown man spending so much time with
Speaker 2: my minor child? You know, outside of the regular confines
Speaker 2: of the norm. Like again, going to church and seeing
Speaker 2: the priest, that's one thing, But if the priest is
Speaker 2: inviting your child over to his house, that's a completely
Speaker 2: different thing right there.
Speaker 10: And I think this happened gradually, right, Like these things
Speaker 10: start off looking innocent and then they take a dark turn.
Speaker 10: And it's important to just kind of reframe it. Think
Speaker 10: of the other trusted adults in your life, your child's life,
Speaker 10: and then just take these behaviors, plug in different names
Speaker 10: and if it sounds bizarre, you need to rethink is
Speaker 10: this perceived with a ton of caution? Or are we
Speaker 10: picking up the phone and calling child protective services about
Speaker 10: it or the police? And by all means, watch your
Speaker 10: child's social media used. I can't tell you, ohapat coming up.
Speaker 2: But you hit upon one of my pet peeves right there.
Speaker 2: We have so much capability to control our children's interactions online.
Speaker 2: You have special software you can put on. You can
Speaker 2: monitor your child's online behavior remotely, but just by installing
Speaker 2: the appropriate app. I don't know why more adults just
Speaker 2: don't do that as a default mechanism period. End of story, Rebecca.
Speaker 2: All I can tell you is thank you very much,
Speaker 2: and I'm just imagining down the road all of the
Speaker 2: children you have saved from. You know, the next step
Speaker 2: after the initiation of this grooming process, Lord Almighty Rebecca sers.
Speaker 10: A one hundred and fifty victims. So if we can
Speaker 10: stop them early in their offending timeline, we can save
Speaker 10: thousands of kids.
Speaker 2: Thousands from a lifetime of psychological harm. Let us not
Speaker 2: ignore that reality. Rebecca, thanks again on behalf of everybody
Speaker 2: in the state of Ohio and all the other states
Speaker 2: out there. Get on board to have a wonderful weekend, Rebecca,
Speaker 2: and thanks again for your work. It's eight fifty two
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