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<v Speaker 1>This is a clip from Beyond Truth. You can access

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<v Speaker 1>the entire episode now on our website and all podcast platforms.

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<v Speaker 1>David Wilcock.

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<v Speaker 2>So, David was actually one of my first metaphysical teachers,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess if you want to call it that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I left Christianity, which was around twenty ten, heavily, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's sort of not heavily. I got into the occult

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<v Speaker 2>sort of, you know, beginning of twenty eleven. I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of like, yeah, I'm kind of dove in there.

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<v Speaker 2>So and one of the groups that I got involved with,

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<v Speaker 2>the two teachers that they directed me towards to go

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<v Speaker 2>and check out once I was leaving Christianity was David

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<v Speaker 2>Wilcock and Abraham Hicks. Those are the two places that

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<v Speaker 2>I was directed to first. So both of them are chandlers,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so, you know whatever, we'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit later, do And So, yeah, I met Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was huge, he was on the top

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<v Speaker 2>of his game at that time. He had a new

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<v Speaker 2>book out. One of them is behind me here, well

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<v Speaker 2>two of them are behind me there. But the one

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<v Speaker 2>that he, you know, did all the predictions for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twelve he had a lot of like he was a

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<v Speaker 2>channeler himself, Okay, so he would channel a lot of information.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he also was a huge advocate for the Law

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<v Speaker 2>One series, the Raw the one that you're doing. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys are interested in that, we're actually doing

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<v Speaker 2>a whole series over on the Milky Way, on the

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<v Speaker 2>raw material, the Law One, which is what David was

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<v Speaker 2>basing a lot of his stuff on.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, I got all that whole series. I read

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<v Speaker 1>it while I was working.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to work as a community support worker at

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<v Speaker 2>that time, and I had clients in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>my car, and quite often the client would be asleep

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<v Speaker 2>for hours, and so I would sit there and read books.

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<v Speaker 1>And I you know, I sure read a lot of books.

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<v Speaker 2>I read that whole series is five of them all

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<v Speaker 2>in total, and you know, and and just kept on studying,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, time sort of went in. That's when

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve came around. That's when I discovered, like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it was her name. I can't remember her name now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, maybe it's better that I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>mention her name because she's no longer.

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<v Speaker 1>In the community either.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, done he see all the angel cards and

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<v Speaker 2>just the whole new Age thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's basically what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>The new Age community is where I sumbled, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course a friendship ABYO that is the UFO community which

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<v Speaker 2>David Sto was in. Both you know, community is there,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I was thinking, and I remember thinking, what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to David? I haven't seen David around And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess after the whole twenty twelve came and went.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, none of the things that he talked about

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<v Speaker 2>came to pass.

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<v Speaker 3>And can separate there. Yeah, yeah, that was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the big downfalls of a lot of people when and

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<v Speaker 3>you've told me this before too, like you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to put dates on things because people look at you know,

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<v Speaker 3>well that didn't come true, and when's it happening now?

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<v Speaker 3>And that that is just that. I mean, I myself,

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<v Speaker 3>I was surprised how young he was so when he

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<v Speaker 3>was doing all of this, you caught him. He must

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<v Speaker 3>have been in his early twenties. I would say maybe

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<v Speaker 3>something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we're gonna go over a little bit here.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a book.

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<v Speaker 2>He came over with a book when he was like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six years old. So you gotta We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>into a little bit more about David's background and sort

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<v Speaker 2>of which leads up to why he did what he did,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna explain a little bit more. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into that, you know, after I sort of go over

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<v Speaker 2>my little story with him here. But yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>none of that came to pass and whatever, and he

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<v Speaker 2>So what I've heard from other people, I do recommend

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<v Speaker 2>to go over and be on Mystic and watch the

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<v Speaker 2>videos that did there. The one was a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days ago where he has Jade Widner on and Penny

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly is in there and Cliff high Alsa's a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minute segment in the middle of there as well or

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<v Speaker 2>more at the end of the show. And those people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Him really well.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Wider worked with him for years, so they have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of good stuff. They got more stuff than

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<v Speaker 2>I do, you know what I mean, because they were

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<v Speaker 2>in contact with them. I never knew him personally, obviously, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just from a distance here, but yeah, he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of saw So I got a lot of information from

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<v Speaker 2>that show. So while I was thinking, well, what happened today, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he took a break. Obviously, things weren't coming

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<v Speaker 2>to pass, so it took a break. Basically, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know recentered. That's when he then met Corey Good and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess at the time, I'm pretty sure that he

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<v Speaker 2>believed what Corey was saying at the time, when I

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<v Speaker 2>guess even Jay Widner did at the time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the thing about this community.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of people is saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That they did this and did that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way of verifying any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it, you know, until until you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when he did meet that Corey Good, he

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<v Speaker 3>Corey Good in him, got a big spot on that guy. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So David was already on Guya, That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So David was at the top of his game here,

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<v Speaker 2>He's already got a permanent gig over on Gaya, and

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<v Speaker 2>David came in and basically want to be David is

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<v Speaker 2>what it was. He wants to be like David. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've had these days here now to meditate on this

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<v Speaker 2>because I had a similar situation to what David went

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<v Speaker 2>through with with Corey a couple three years ago myself

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit on a smaller scale, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That happened. Basically, somebody comes in right, and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they had done.

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<v Speaker 2>About twelve episodes over on Guio with David and then

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<v Speaker 2>things fell apart.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Corey didn't have any material.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can only come up with so much

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<v Speaker 2>cocammia all at once, you know what I mean, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when it's not true. You don't have anything more to

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<v Speaker 2>go on now. And this is so I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>saying some things about Corey. Okay, that's you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>might turn around and see me for But the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is is that the man went to court in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two and I did. For those of you who are

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<v Speaker 2>following me on all the socials and watching the reels

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<v Speaker 2>and all that, I posted a little reel yesterday, just

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<v Speaker 2>a little one minute and forty five minutes or forty seconds,

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<v Speaker 2>a little snippet of that court thing that he went through.

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<v Speaker 2>And also those of you who have followed me for years,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll remember that writer and I were doing some videos

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<v Speaker 2>on this years ago, okay, about Corey Good and what

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<v Speaker 2>happened there. And so this isn't new in the community.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're new to the community, you may not

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<v Speaker 2>have heard any of this, so you know, I do

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<v Speaker 2>have receipts. You know, the man was in court saying this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>basically he lied about the whole thing. It's all just fantasy.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's actually a copyrighted now so nobody can even

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<v Speaker 2>use terms. But anyways, that's not what the show is about.

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<v Speaker 2>Corey came in there, and I guess David thought, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know we're gonna go with this. He

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<v Speaker 2>must have believed them. I guess the stories and thought that, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, it almost like he fell under

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<v Speaker 2>a spin a Corey spell.

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<v Speaker 1>He fell under the spell. He couldn't get out of

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<v Speaker 2>And basically, Corey had convinced and once he had done

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<v Speaker 2>his twelve episodes and sort of basically welcomed himself for

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<v Speaker 2>wrong Gaya, he basically convinced David to leave a Guya,

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<v Speaker 2>to leave his permanent gig that he had there, huge

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<v Speaker 2>paycheck by the way, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars that he made over there, right, Vincent to leave? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the kind of hold that this man had

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<v Speaker 2>on David, and he did. And obviously, you know the

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<v Speaker 2>paycheck's not coming in now, what are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>do as an author. You know, you gotta just keep

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<v Speaker 2>you know, writing those books because you know, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>you get paid. And unfortunately it also got led down

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<v Speaker 2>some bad financial advice.

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<v Speaker 1>He invested one point.

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<v Speaker 2>Five million, which I do believe was all his savings

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, into some aerospace company that turns out

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<v Speaker 2>was bogus. He ended up losing all his money there,

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<v Speaker 2>and he also then ended up losing his wife left

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<v Speaker 2>as well various reasons there. And then last year he

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<v Speaker 2>also lost his dog. So you know, the man has

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<v Speaker 2>gone through a lot. Never mind all the lawsuits. So

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<v Speaker 2>when they left Guaya, they didn't just leave on good terms.

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<v Speaker 2>They left and all of a sudden they had a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of enemies. There was a whole bunch of lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 2>Again that Corey kind of a drogue David into his drama. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>David loves drama and or not sorry, Corey loves drama, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and he dragged him into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now he's got a bunch of lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bunch of drama going on, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, again he got dragged down. So and

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<v Speaker 2>then of course we found out that you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was all lies. The Corey Good story was all lies.

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<v Speaker 2>It's he went to court. We've seen all the court things,

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<v Speaker 2>and but he's still you know, Corey still had a

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time he spoke to David was in February,

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<v Speaker 2>which was not long ago, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Couple of months ago. So it's still to this day,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, they were still communicating, and he still had that

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<v Speaker 2>hold on David, and I guess felt loyalty.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, you know, according to what Cliff I said

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<v Speaker 1>in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Video that I recommended earlier, is that he had actually

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<v Speaker 2>contacted David with a way out sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to try to bring himself back into the community. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, I meditated on this myself. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of almost agree with David, I guess, because

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<v Speaker 2>he obviously didn't take him up on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was too far gone with the matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it wasn't just that because now in the last

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<v Speaker 2>few years now, and so I obviously left I unsubscribed

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<v Speaker 2>and I left, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was it. But a lot of people took

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<v Speaker 2>Him to do them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you name it.

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<v Speaker 2>He yeah, there was a lot of that. And David

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<v Speaker 2>is a very gentle soul. He's very sensitive and it

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<v Speaker 2>really bothered him. It's not like some people can just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not even pay attention and doesn't bother.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not David.

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<v Speaker 2>David was very sensitive, took it all to heart and

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<v Speaker 2>just couldn't seem to get out of that whole Corey hold,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And then so I hadn't really paid too

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<v Speaker 2>much attention to what he was doing, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I unsubscribed, I left whatever. I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I would sort of see things here and there, but

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<v Speaker 2>not really paying too much attention. When I did go

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<v Speaker 2>in there though, I noticed that now now David had

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<v Speaker 2>turned into the Q movement, did now turned into the

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<v Speaker 2>MAGA movements. So he's a que tart, the Trump tart.

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<v Speaker 2>And he had turned Christian at the end, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's certain things that we can forgive, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, But all those three things, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I guess at the same time, he still believed

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<v Speaker 2>in the New Age teachings that he had been doing,

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<v Speaker 2>but he wanted to kind of combine it with Christianity,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like he was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>merge at all, and you can't do that. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to piss off both communities, you know. So I had

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<v Speaker 2>that little C Trump thing going on there. He could

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<v Speaker 2>have maybe you know, stuck that out. I mean when

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at the last live stream that he did,

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<v Speaker 2>the superchats were just rolling in. I mean one guy

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<v Speaker 2>gave him three hundred and thirty three dollars loss of

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<v Speaker 2>fifty dollars, one hundred dollars, Like he had quite a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of super chats, you know what I mean. Plus

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<v Speaker 2>these videos are monetized.

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<v Speaker 3>All three things was he was still pretty famous, and

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<v Speaker 3>he had that loyal fouling because he was. He did talk, Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a brilliant talker. He's got a brilliant mind. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a really good speaker. And this is why you was

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<v Speaker 2>still going on. But he only had about five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and something thousand subscribe which sounds like a lot to us,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, to to now for the big channels,

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<v Speaker 2>not so much. And so he was his niche at

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<v Speaker 2>the end here was just basically lid the Q and

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<v Speaker 2>Trump thing. And that's all falling apart too. You can

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<v Speaker 2>only hold up the Trump things so far. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>look at look at what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I think my opinion on that would be I think

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<v Speaker 3>he ran out of and reinventing himself, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he had to be you know, he had this thing

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<v Speaker 3>going on like you're saying in the beginning. Then he

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<v Speaker 3>found he invented himself and found Corey good, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he got rid of that and then he was on

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<v Speaker 3>Ancient Aliens there for a while, wasn't he.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's he got a permanent gig over on guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He was doing a lot of different shows over there.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, he Cliff thinks that he probably maybe

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<v Speaker 2>could have maybe he would have had to thrown Corey

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<v Speaker 2>under the bus if he was gonna he would.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to throw the Cub movement, Trump movement, the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Loga thing, all of it under the bus if he

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna come back, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was too much for him. Yeah, sometimes you can't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just changed lane that fast. Like when you're younger, you

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<v Speaker 3>can say, well I just didn't know and sorry, I

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<v Speaker 3>hope you all forgive me and I'm gonna move. And

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<v Speaker 3>then that could. He was a real slick talker too. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>that that guy that's I could, I can, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would never be able. You could never nail that guy

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<v Speaker 3>down because he was that good of a talker. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean still so and and uh David Wilcox was

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<v Speaker 3>he knew a little bit about everything, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>very impressive from my point of view.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you know, David so going back a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know why you know he wasn't able to do

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<v Speaker 2>it is because he grew up in upstate New York, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he had, you know, come from a fairly well