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Speaker 1: David Wilcock.
Speaker 2: So, David was actually one of my first metaphysical teachers,
Speaker 2: I guess if you want to call it that one.
Speaker 2: I left Christianity, which was around twenty ten, heavily, and
Speaker 2: it's sort of not heavily. I got into the occult
Speaker 2: sort of, you know, beginning of twenty eleven. I would say,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, yeah, I'm kind of dove in there.
Speaker 2: So and one of the groups that I got involved with,
Speaker 2: the two teachers that they directed me towards to go
Speaker 2: and check out once I was leaving Christianity was David
Speaker 2: Wilcock and Abraham Hicks. Those are the two places that
Speaker 2: I was directed to first. So both of them are chandlers,
Speaker 2: you know, so, you know whatever, we'll talk about that
Speaker 2: a little bit later, do And So, yeah, I met Dave.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was huge, he was on the top
Speaker 2: of his game at that time. He had a new
Speaker 2: book out. One of them is behind me here, well
Speaker 2: two of them are behind me there. But the one
Speaker 2: that he, you know, did all the predictions for twenty
Speaker 2: twelve he had a lot of like he was a
Speaker 2: channeler himself, Okay, so he would channel a lot of information.
Speaker 2: Then he also was a huge advocate for the Law
Speaker 2: One series, the Raw the one that you're doing. So
Speaker 2: if you guys are interested in that, we're actually doing
Speaker 2: a whole series over on the Milky Way, on the
Speaker 2: raw material, the Law One, which is what David was
Speaker 2: basing a lot of his stuff on.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I got all that whole series. I read
Speaker 1: it while I was working.
Speaker 2: I used to work as a community support worker at
Speaker 2: that time, and I had clients in the back of
Speaker 2: my car, and quite often the client would be asleep
Speaker 2: for hours, and so I would sit there and read books.
Speaker 1: And I you know, I sure read a lot of books.
Speaker 2: I read that whole series is five of them all
Speaker 2: in total, and you know, and and just kept on studying,
Speaker 2: and you know, time sort of went in. That's when
Speaker 2: twenty twelve came around. That's when I discovered, like, well,
Speaker 2: it was her name. I can't remember her name now,
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe it's better that I don't even
Speaker 2: mention her name because she's no longer.
Speaker 1: In the community either.
Speaker 2: But anyways, done he see all the angel cards and
Speaker 2: just the whole new Age thing.
Speaker 1: You know, that's basically what it was.
Speaker 2: The new Age community is where I sumbled, and of
Speaker 2: course a friendship ABYO that is the UFO community which
Speaker 2: David Sto was in. Both you know, community is there,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I was thinking, and I remember thinking, what
Speaker 2: happened to David? I haven't seen David around And sure enough,
Speaker 2: I guess after the whole twenty twelve came and went.
Speaker 2: You know, none of the things that he talked about
Speaker 2: came to pass.
Speaker 3: And can separate there. Yeah, yeah, that was one of
Speaker 3: the big downfalls of a lot of people when and
Speaker 3: you've told me this before too, like you don't want
Speaker 3: to put dates on things because people look at you know,
Speaker 3: well that didn't come true, and when's it happening now?
Speaker 3: And that that is just that. I mean, I myself,
Speaker 3: I was surprised how young he was so when he
Speaker 3: was doing all of this, you caught him. He must
Speaker 3: have been in his early twenties. I would say maybe
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're gonna go over a little bit here.
Speaker 1: He had a book.
Speaker 2: He came over with a book when he was like
Speaker 2: twenty six years old. So you gotta We're gonna go
Speaker 2: into a little bit more about David's background and sort
Speaker 2: of which leads up to why he did what he did,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna explain a little bit more. We'll get
Speaker 2: into that, you know, after I sort of go over
Speaker 2: my little story with him here. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: none of that came to pass and whatever, and he
Speaker 2: So what I've heard from other people, I do recommend
Speaker 2: to go over and be on Mystic and watch the
Speaker 2: videos that did there. The one was a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago where he has Jade Widner on and Penny
Speaker 2: Kelly is in there and Cliff high Alsa's a twenty
Speaker 2: minute segment in the middle of there as well or
Speaker 2: more at the end of the show. And those people,
Speaker 2: you know, knew.
Speaker 1: Him really well.
Speaker 2: Jay Wider worked with him for years, so they have
Speaker 2: a lot of good stuff. They got more stuff than
Speaker 2: I do, you know what I mean, because they were
Speaker 2: in contact with them. I never knew him personally, obviously, right,
Speaker 2: he's just from a distance here, but yeah, he kind
Speaker 2: of saw So I got a lot of information from
Speaker 2: that show. So while I was thinking, well, what happened today, Well,
Speaker 2: I guess he took a break. Obviously, things weren't coming
Speaker 2: to pass, so it took a break. Basically, I don't
Speaker 2: know recentered. That's when he then met Corey Good and
Speaker 2: I guess at the time, I'm pretty sure that he
Speaker 2: believed what Corey was saying at the time, when I
Speaker 2: guess even Jay Widner did at the time, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing about this community.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people is saying.
Speaker 2: That they did this and did that, and you know,
Speaker 2: there's no way of verifying any of it.
Speaker 1: Is it, you know, until until you know.
Speaker 3: You know, when he did meet that Corey Good, he
Speaker 3: Corey Good in him, got a big spot on that guy. Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So David was already on Guya, That's the thing.
Speaker 2: So David was at the top of his game here,
Speaker 2: He's already got a permanent gig over on Gaya, and
Speaker 2: David came in and basically want to be David is
Speaker 2: what it was. He wants to be like David. And
Speaker 2: I've had these days here now to meditate on this
Speaker 2: because I had a similar situation to what David went
Speaker 2: through with with Corey a couple three years ago myself
Speaker 2: a little bit on a smaller scale, but it was
Speaker 2: the same thing.
Speaker 1: That happened. Basically, somebody comes in right, and I guess
Speaker 1: they had done.
Speaker 2: About twelve episodes over on Guio with David and then
Speaker 2: things fell apart.
Speaker 1: I guess Corey didn't have any material.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can only come up with so much
Speaker 2: cocammia all at once, you know what I mean, especially
Speaker 2: when it's not true. You don't have anything more to
Speaker 2: go on now. And this is so I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: saying some things about Corey. Okay, that's you know, you
Speaker 2: might turn around and see me for But the thing
Speaker 2: is is that the man went to court in twenty
Speaker 2: two and I did. For those of you who are
Speaker 2: following me on all the socials and watching the reels
Speaker 2: and all that, I posted a little reel yesterday, just
Speaker 2: a little one minute and forty five minutes or forty seconds,
Speaker 2: a little snippet of that court thing that he went through.
Speaker 2: And also those of you who have followed me for years,
Speaker 2: we'll remember that writer and I were doing some videos
Speaker 2: on this years ago, okay, about Corey Good and what
Speaker 2: happened there. And so this isn't new in the community.
Speaker 2: But if you're new to the community, you may not
Speaker 2: have heard any of this, so you know, I do
Speaker 2: have receipts. You know, the man was in court saying this. Okay,
Speaker 2: basically he lied about the whole thing. It's all just fantasy.
Speaker 2: And he's actually a copyrighted now so nobody can even
Speaker 2: use terms. But anyways, that's not what the show is about.
Speaker 2: Corey came in there, and I guess David thought, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, you know we're gonna go with this. He
Speaker 2: must have believed them. I guess the stories and thought that, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, it almost like he fell under
Speaker 2: a spin a Corey spell.
Speaker 1: He fell under the spell. He couldn't get out of
Speaker 1: that spell.
Speaker 2: And basically, Corey had convinced and once he had done
Speaker 2: his twelve episodes and sort of basically welcomed himself for
Speaker 2: wrong Gaya, he basically convinced David to leave a Guya,
Speaker 2: to leave his permanent gig that he had there, huge
Speaker 2: paycheck by the way, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 2: dollars that he made over there, right, Vincent to leave? Okay,
Speaker 2: this is the kind of hold that this man had
Speaker 2: on David, and he did. And obviously, you know the
Speaker 2: paycheck's not coming in now, what are you going to
Speaker 2: do as an author. You know, you gotta just keep
Speaker 2: you know, writing those books because you know, that's how
Speaker 2: you get paid. And unfortunately it also got led down
Speaker 2: some bad financial advice.
Speaker 1: He invested one point.
Speaker 2: Five million, which I do believe was all his savings
Speaker 2: at the time, into some aerospace company that turns out
Speaker 2: was bogus. He ended up losing all his money there,
Speaker 2: and he also then ended up losing his wife left
Speaker 2: as well various reasons there. And then last year he
Speaker 2: also lost his dog. So you know, the man has
Speaker 2: gone through a lot. Never mind all the lawsuits. So
Speaker 2: when they left Guaya, they didn't just leave on good terms.
Speaker 2: They left and all of a sudden they had a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of enemies. There was a whole bunch of lawsuits.
Speaker 2: Again that Corey kind of a drogue David into his drama. Okay,
Speaker 2: David loves drama and or not sorry, Corey loves drama, okay,
Speaker 2: and he dragged him into it.
Speaker 1: And so now he's got a bunch of lawsuits.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of drama going on, uh you know,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, again he got dragged down. So and
Speaker 2: then of course we found out that you know, it
Speaker 2: was all lies. The Corey Good story was all lies.
Speaker 2: It's he went to court. We've seen all the court things,
Speaker 2: and but he's still you know, Corey still had a
Speaker 2: hold on him.
Speaker 1: Apparently.
Speaker 2: The last time he spoke to David was in February,
Speaker 2: which was not long ago, a.
Speaker 1: Couple of months ago. So it's still to this day,
Speaker 1: you know, or up until that day.
Speaker 2: Uh, they were still communicating, and he still had that
Speaker 2: hold on David, and I guess felt loyalty.
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, according to what Cliff I said
Speaker 1: in that.
Speaker 2: Video that I recommended earlier, is that he had actually
Speaker 2: contacted David with a way out sort of, you know,
Speaker 2: to try to bring himself back into the community. However,
Speaker 2: I you know, I meditated on this myself. I don't
Speaker 2: I kind of almost agree with David, I guess, because
Speaker 2: he obviously didn't take him up on this.
Speaker 1: I think it was too far gone with the matter.
Speaker 2: Because it wasn't just that because now in the last
Speaker 2: few years now, and so I obviously left I unsubscribed
Speaker 2: and I left, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But that was it. But a lot of people took
Speaker 1: upon himself to patrol him to cyberstock.
Speaker 2: Him to do them.
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it.
Speaker 2: He yeah, there was a lot of that. And David
Speaker 2: is a very gentle soul. He's very sensitive and it
Speaker 2: really bothered him. It's not like some people can just
Speaker 2: you know, not even pay attention and doesn't bother.
Speaker 1: That was not David.
Speaker 2: David was very sensitive, took it all to heart and
Speaker 2: just couldn't seem to get out of that whole Corey hold,
Speaker 2: you know. And then so I hadn't really paid too
Speaker 2: much attention to what he was doing, to be honest,
Speaker 2: like I said, I unsubscribed, I left whatever. I mean.
Speaker 2: I would sort of see things here and there, but
Speaker 2: not really paying too much attention. When I did go
Speaker 2: in there though, I noticed that now now David had
Speaker 2: turned into the Q movement, did now turned into the
Speaker 2: MAGA movements. So he's a que tart, the Trump tart.
Speaker 2: And he had turned Christian at the end, and you know,
Speaker 2: you know, there's certain things that we can forgive, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, But all those three things, and
Speaker 2: then I guess at the same time, he still believed
Speaker 2: in the New Age teachings that he had been doing,
Speaker 2: but he wanted to kind of combine it with Christianity,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like he was trying to
Speaker 2: merge at all, and you can't do that. You're going
Speaker 2: to piss off both communities, you know. So I had
Speaker 2: that little C Trump thing going on there. He could
Speaker 2: have maybe you know, stuck that out. I mean when
Speaker 2: I looked at the last live stream that he did,
Speaker 2: the superchats were just rolling in. I mean one guy
Speaker 2: gave him three hundred and thirty three dollars loss of
Speaker 2: fifty dollars, one hundred dollars, Like he had quite a
Speaker 2: bit of super chats, you know what I mean. Plus
Speaker 2: these videos are monetized.
Speaker 3: All three things was he was still pretty famous, and
Speaker 3: he had that loyal fouling because he was. He did talk, Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: he did.
Speaker 2: He's a brilliant talker. He's got a brilliant mind. He's
Speaker 2: a really good speaker. And this is why you was
Speaker 2: still going on. But he only had about five hundred
Speaker 2: and something thousand subscribe which sounds like a lot to us,
Speaker 2: but you know, to to now for the big channels,
Speaker 2: not so much. And so he was his niche at
Speaker 2: the end here was just basically lid the Q and
Speaker 2: Trump thing. And that's all falling apart too. You can
Speaker 2: only hold up the Trump things so far. I mean,
Speaker 2: look at look at what's going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I think my opinion on that would be I think
Speaker 3: he ran out of and reinventing himself, because you know,
Speaker 3: he had to be you know, he had this thing
Speaker 3: going on like you're saying in the beginning. Then he
Speaker 3: found he invented himself and found Corey good, and then
Speaker 3: he got rid of that and then he was on
Speaker 3: Ancient Aliens there for a while, wasn't he.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's he got a permanent gig over on guy.
Speaker 2: He was doing a lot of different shows over there.
Speaker 2: And you know, he Cliff thinks that he probably maybe
Speaker 2: could have maybe he would have had to thrown Corey
Speaker 2: under the bus if he was gonna he would.
Speaker 1: Have to throw the Cub movement, Trump movement, the whole.
Speaker 2: Loga thing, all of it under the bus if he
Speaker 2: was gonna come back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it was too much for him. Yeah, sometimes you can't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just changed lane that fast. Like when you're younger, you
Speaker 3: can say, well I just didn't know and sorry, I
Speaker 3: hope you all forgive me and I'm gonna move. And
Speaker 3: then that could. He was a real slick talker too. Man,
Speaker 3: that that guy that's I could, I can, and I
Speaker 3: would never be able. You could never nail that guy
Speaker 3: down because he was that good of a talker. Uh,
Speaker 3: I mean still so and and uh David Wilcox was
Speaker 3: he knew a little bit about everything, and that was
Speaker 3: very impressive from my point of view.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, David so going back a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know why you know he wasn't able to do
Speaker 2: it is because he grew up in upstate New York, Okay,
Speaker 2: he had, you know, come from a fairly well