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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm recording. I think, well, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>you are. You're lounging and recording at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I've pressed stop and then start again.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going well, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it? Well, that's why Richard, we are at Country Slide,

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<v Speaker 1>Rural Britain's most popular podcast. If any lawyers are listening, probably.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Look, I'm delightful to see you back once again.

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<v Speaker 1>Each week. I just wonder as to whether you'll be dead,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, you're still you're still surviving. I have had

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<v Speaker 1>a fall this week. You know when the elderly say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh they've had a fall. I had one in that

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<v Speaker 1>corner over there, Whilst trying to pick up something thrown

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner in anger, I sort of had a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of you know, one of those falls where it's

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<v Speaker 1>coming slowly. Yeah, you know you can see it in

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<v Speaker 1>the run up, but it's not. It's not a sudden affair.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's happening. You got time to be ashamed

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<v Speaker 1>already before, yes, exactly. And it is quite funny, is

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<v Speaker 1>that when you get to a certain age, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>fall over. You have a fall In actual fact, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a precisely what happened to me on Saturday, because I

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<v Speaker 1>played my first cricket match of the season and.

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<v Speaker 2>It still hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am covered in bruises and scars and hobbling

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<v Speaker 1>around and when he goes say are you all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they guess said, yeah, I played cricket on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>People do not give you the sympathy of saying I've

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<v Speaker 1>been hit by a car, but that's how it feels.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to say, if I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>look out of my body at myself, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>most of my diving around in the field would have

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<v Speaker 1>looked like sort of someone with some sort of palsy

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<v Speaker 1>just falling over the wrong way, you know, because the

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<v Speaker 1>balls came towards me. I was fielding a point and

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<v Speaker 1>I went they went to my right, and I dived

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<v Speaker 1>to my left and put my hands out there and

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<v Speaker 1>fell over and was writhing around, and my teammates are going,

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<v Speaker 1>are you all right?

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<v Speaker 4>Mate?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, just last season they'd have said get up,

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<v Speaker 1>but now they come and help you up. And it

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<v Speaker 1>just strikes me that age has befallen me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>am half the man I used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a special chair set aside for you. That's

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<v Speaker 2>Richard's chair. You have a tankard that's got your that's

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<v Speaker 2>yours with your name on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what? Our cricket club is quite a

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<v Speaker 1>satz really, and we have a nice clubhouse, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't stretch to tankards. It does have some glasses if

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<v Speaker 1>you ask for them specifically, but no, it's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>like what I've got at the moment, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>stolen pint glass from a pub. And I always stole

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<v Speaker 1>the pint glasses that actually still have pint written on them,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than whatever it is, a leita. It's my slight

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<v Speaker 1>sort of you know, pre Brexit. Ah God, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a pint. As far as I'm concerned, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's sort of one of those those lost experiences

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe our generation's had that the youth of today

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<v Speaker 2>don't have. I don't know, Maybe we should ask a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of them, because just as luck would have it

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<v Speaker 2>over on the other side of the internet. From where

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm sat in my convalescence room and you are

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<v Speaker 2>sat in your is it an orangeury summer room? What

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<v Speaker 2>are you calling him?

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<v Speaker 1>By study?

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<v Speaker 2>You'll study. It's not windows on all sides so everyone

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<v Speaker 2>can see you studying.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's why. Yeah, so we have.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Well I was wondering what order I should

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<v Speaker 2>do this in, but I'm just going to go for

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<v Speaker 2>the order of the bios that have been sent to me.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Will he has.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a member of Hadley Young Farmers. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the longest serving current members of Suffolk Young Farmers,

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<v Speaker 2>having been a member for seventeen years. And he is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the director of the Hadleigh Show this year,

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<v Speaker 2>which I believe is a big deal over there in

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<v Speaker 2>the flatlands.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and we also have no no will You're not

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to talk yet. We're going to carry on the introductions,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just just just just as we go. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we have Poppy. She seems to work for Debenham's

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<v Speaker 2>Young Farmers. Is that sort of an in.

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<v Speaker 1>Store you heave? Is that a place? Yes, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful place. It's where Lovejoy used to be filmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Right I thought that was on the Channel Islands or No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so Poppy from Debenham Young Farmers. She's their program

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<v Speaker 2>organizer and another person with family links back to the countryside.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we should let Poppy speak first, just

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<v Speaker 2>because I gave her the roughest introduction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and Poppy, Hello, Poppy. Thank you so much both

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<v Speaker 1>Poppy and Will for coming on. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>just give a bit of context as why we've got

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<v Speaker 1>these two young firebrands on the show. Back about six

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, which in you know Nigas years is three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Say walk then exactly back when Richard Pridou

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<v Speaker 1>could still walk, I said, I wondered what it was

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<v Speaker 1>like to be young in the countryside today, because I

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<v Speaker 1>realized that things had changed quite dramatically for young people.

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<v Speaker 1>So we set ourselves a task, an indomitable country slide style.

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<v Speaker 1>We jumped to it, and six months later, here we

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<v Speaker 1>are with Poppy and Will. So Poppy, tell me a

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<v Speaker 1>bit about yourself and what do you get up to?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I was born in countryside. I was lucky

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<v Speaker 3>that my grandparents were both well. My granddad, he was

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<v Speaker 3>a farmer. He had a small farm. He started with

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and thirty acres and then moved down to

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred acres, so it's very small, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>enough at the time. So I grew up with big family,

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<v Speaker 3>with cousins. I had like we still do have twelve

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<v Speaker 3>cousins and going to Grandma and Grandad's farms. We'd always

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<v Speaker 3>meet up and do so much there. I think we

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<v Speaker 3>were very privileged in the respect that we had a

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<v Speaker 3>med day, that we could have meats, like we'd have

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<v Speaker 3>like sparklers and bonfire night and just go over really

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<v Speaker 3>and have a nice time. In summer when granddad was

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<v Speaker 3>working harvest, we'd go oither and pack a picnic whilst

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<v Speaker 3>he was on the combine and just see them for

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<v Speaker 3>ten minutes and then he'd be off again kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'd I remember going after school collecting worms with

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<v Speaker 3>my cousin and putting them in mustard tins because what

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<v Speaker 3>else would you do after school? So yeah, no, it

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<v Speaker 3>was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go, an idyllic country childhood, capturing worms

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<v Speaker 1>and setting fire to things so that nothing's changed. Then

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<v Speaker 1>saying not really, well, how many worms did you catch?

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<v Speaker 1>Right to talk talk me through, will because you're a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit old, well quite a bit older than Poppy actually,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're getting on a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah it's forty seven, yeah, probably closer to it, probably, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>not so many worms caught in my childhood. I must,

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<v Speaker 5>but that's horrible farming for you don't get many worms

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<v Speaker 5>to catch in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, quite.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell tell me about your your background and and

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<v Speaker 1>how you came into young farmers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So I've grown up on a family farm at home.

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<v Speaker 5>So we found about eight hundred acres all arable and

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<v Speaker 5>a bit of contracting to start off with, which we've

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<v Speaker 5>now expanded, which my brother now runs. But when I

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<v Speaker 5>was younger, I think friends of friends got me along

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<v Speaker 5>to young farmers at the age of ten, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>going along before you start drinking, and it is more

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<v Speaker 5>about the social before it changes and priorities switch when

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<v Speaker 5>you've become fifteen, sixteen, seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, been involved in it ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean are they people? Because it's interesting Poppy saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, although she comes from an extended farming family,

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<v Speaker 1>it's she's not directly she's not directly from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her dad didn't farm. So for you as a farmer,

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<v Speaker 1>are you bumping into your neighbors and peers or have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen it change that it's a broader church in

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<v Speaker 1>Hadley young farmers than they used to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think through young through the seventeen years.

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<v Speaker 5>I think when I started it very much was the

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<v Speaker 5>children of previous generations. So when the clubs were big,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was when the clubs were big in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 5>it was the children of them that were coming through

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<v Speaker 5>and I was in junior and farmers with But I

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<v Speaker 5>think since then I've been running the junior clubs an adult,

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<v Speaker 5>and I've been a member of the clubs. I think

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<v Speaker 5>there's a noticeable switch of people because it's now the

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<v Speaker 5>group of people that want to be countryside people and

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<v Speaker 5>like the look of being a countryside person are getting

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<v Speaker 5>involved and coming along and so they enjoy It's somewhere

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<v Speaker 5>where it's totally acceptable to wear your weddies and put

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<v Speaker 5>a shoffle on to mix with people more than perhaps

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<v Speaker 5>just going to a nightclub and trying to mingle with townsfolk.

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<v Speaker 2>I think right right, Just as a point of order

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<v Speaker 2>on that, have you tried going to a nightclub in

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<v Speaker 2>a shuffle just as you know for comparison and can trust.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't have any other uniform to wear, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>if I was going anywhere for a shoffle, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Gona obviously is a life jacket for the young farmers.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave a talk the other day to Poppies Club Debenham,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to say Marcus Jansen from Shoffle would

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<v Speaker 1>have been rubbing his hands with glee because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there was a single person in there. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there were guys liking singlet vests, but they still had

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<v Speaker 1>their shaffle on, so you know, it's it's it's very important.

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<v Speaker 4>Do they have a full complement of a singlet vest,

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<v Speaker 4>a shuffle and a mullet or one today the full trio.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever done Poppy actually an analysis of the

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<v Speaker 1>mullet to member ratio of Debenham.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I haven't been far. I think it's a mixture

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<v Speaker 3>of hair cuts and monas well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a it's a it's some sort of statistical

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<v Speaker 1>data that you should be doing. I keep telling all

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<v Speaker 1>you young farmers that knowledge is king now in farming.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you've got a baseline survey things. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>between the two of you you're leaving present to Hadley

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<v Speaker 1>YFC Welsh and Poppy as another thing you need to

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<v Speaker 1>do is to go and actually assess the levels of

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<v Speaker 1>mullet mullet them. But I mean that's an interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>you say, right, is that you said that people who

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<v Speaker 1>want to be seen will as someone from the country side.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, am I correct in saying that rural is

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly a little bit sexy for want of a better

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<v Speaker 1>word in the wider world?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, hasn't it always been sexy? I mean, you're you're

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<v Speaker 5>fifty years old, at least at least.

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<v Speaker 1>What's about ten? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it is. I think since the whole

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<v Speaker 5>Jay Holland Cooper branding has come out, countryside is sexy,

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<v Speaker 5>isn't it. It's something that people are adalized and want

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<v Speaker 5>to go on board with, and it doesn't really depend.

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<v Speaker 5>No one's worried about the cost of it, right, anyone

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<v Speaker 5>look in the vibe and buying a landrover buying tweed,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's quite a cost that comes to it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's the look. Isn't it looks good on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a sort of a fashion and an identity

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<v Speaker 2>split between arable and livestock Because it's mostly livestock over here,

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<v Speaker 2>and the club I was in was mostly livestock, mostly dairy,

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<v Speaker 2>than the chauffeur.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, I imagine. Yeah, you don't get many singlets

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<v Speaker 5>over here in our club. I must mean more arable farmers.

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<v Speaker 5>We're all wearing Australian work shirts and dealer boots, but

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<v Speaker 5>the moment we.

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<v Speaker 2>Take on a night out here, there we go, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>do an exchange program Baiales v Suffolk.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be a cool thing, poppy as a young lady

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<v Speaker 1>in the Young Farmers is I mean when I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when the world was young, what the hell that would be?

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<v Speaker 1>From I think nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a member of Sturminster Newton Young Farmers in

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<v Speaker 1>Dorset because I was at school down there. Do I

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<v Speaker 1>seem to remember that there were was a ratio of

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<v Speaker 1>about five men to every single female?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's the sort of ratio men to women

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<v Speaker 1>in Debenham Young Farmers.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's actually very mixed. I think we've got

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<v Speaker 3>so many new members coming in now. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>would definitely say there's more men over women or girls

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<v Speaker 3>or what have you. But yeah, no, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a huge drastic difference now. I think, especially now

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<v Speaker 3>people are coming through and then they've got friends of

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<v Speaker 3>friends that come and it's all getting mixed and it's

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<v Speaker 3>nice to see a variety, really, but I'd say definitely

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a little bit more of men, but not huge

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the same over your way? Will? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what's the sort of sex split?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I hadn't really thought about it, but just listening to popery,

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<v Speaker 5>it's made me realize that in our younger cohorts that

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<v Speaker 5>are coming through now, obviously from sixteen upwards, I think

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<v Speaker 5>a lot more of our new members are female.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know whether it's because people are.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, because younger girls are more confident than young men

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<v Speaker 5>to turn up to a random group of people and

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<v Speaker 5>try to fit in. But yeah, we've definitely we're definitely

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<v Speaker 5>female strong and Hadley not by much, but there's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>there's definitely a higher majority.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a trend even down into the nineties and

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<v Speaker 2>the two thousands, so it was also seemed to be

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<v Speaker 2>probably seventy percent male. But is that I wonder whether

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<v Speaker 2>there's at the demographics of the number of farms that

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<v Speaker 2>there are now has reduced that it's reducing every year,

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<v Speaker 2>and people are having children later and possibly having fewer children,

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<v Speaker 2>So does that mean there's fewer young people in their

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<v Speaker 2>countryside therefore the ratios are mixed and sort of skewed

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<v Speaker 2>towards the people coming in from the outside.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe yeah, probably, yeah, probably right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's something that strikes me as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and it might just be because of like say, Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously with Clarkson's farm that opened the eyes to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, with that young lady from Derbyshire.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember her name because I'm not very good

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<v Speaker 1>with things like that because I'm very old. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that that women the more obvious now in farming.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be that here's the farmer and here's

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, whereas now you're seeing more obviously that it

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<v Speaker 1>is actually an industry where you are getting the work

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<v Speaker 1>done by whoever can do it, rather than oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the job for the men and that's the job for

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<v Speaker 1>the women type thing. I mean, is there something poppy

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<v Speaker 1>that you do you feel as a as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a young woman that there is are still an US

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<v Speaker 1>and them male to female in farming or is it

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<v Speaker 1>something that you don't really come across.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tricky because obviously I'm not in a farming industry.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I think obviously, if you grow up in a farm,

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<v Speaker 3>like in a farming household, and you can do that

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<v Speaker 3>from growing up because you live on a farm and

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you want to do, it's probably easier because

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<v Speaker 3>you're part of a family, whereas maybe it is a

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<v Speaker 3>bit harder. To be honest, I don't think it is nowadays.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very much eat cord like to say.

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<v Speaker 3>But then again, is that because I'm not in the

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<v Speaker 3>like in the agriculture your industry, Like maybe I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen it that Maybe I think girls or women would

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<v Speaker 3>like to prove that they can do it or they

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<v Speaker 3>feel like they have to try and improve just so

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<v Speaker 3>that they can get along nicely kind of thing, if

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<v Speaker 3>that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Is the fact that but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel that there's a there's a glass ceiling, or that

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<v Speaker 1>there is almost you know, I'm that there is this

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<v Speaker 1>misogyny thing that that we were told exists in young

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<v Speaker 1>Farmers because there was some splash a few years ago

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<v Speaker 1>because some young men had some t shirts on that

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<v Speaker 1>were sort of slightly suggestive that it was still.

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<v Speaker 2>My era, the Blackpool thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, yes, so so Will. How did that go down?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it like one of the senior bods in Young Farmers?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that something when that story splashed that you know

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<v Speaker 1>that Young Farmers is just this full of misogynistic blokes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still blokey blokes and they're still smoking, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>still drinking and shot chlory. You know, they might pinch

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<v Speaker 1>pinch a girl on the bottom. Was that something that

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<v Speaker 1>you almost got?

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<v Speaker 4>You thought?

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't What were your feelings about it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, personally, Blackpool is is completely out of my world.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the last thing I'd want to attend, I think

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<v Speaker 4>for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Reason because it coming out of it there's so many stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Of crap like that that shine.

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<v Speaker 5>A bad light on I don't know the organization or

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<v Speaker 5>the gender or the age, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it shines the right light on young

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<v Speaker 5>farmers or a true light in young farmers, especially in

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<v Speaker 5>a time where the industry is trying to encourage women

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<v Speaker 5>in and trying to.

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<v Speaker 4>Show itself in the best light.

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<v Speaker 5>I think this whole and I know it still happens

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<v Speaker 5>that all the slogans on T shirts happens every year

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<v Speaker 5>still even to this day, for the cheap laughs and everything,

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I don't think it's probably not the best

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<v Speaker 5>thing to be happening in a modern world when everyone's

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<v Speaker 5>so politically correct. Anyway, It's just one of those Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there might be an element of sort

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<v Speaker 2>of family cultural peer pressure in some of those communities,

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<v Speaker 2>because we have over here in Wales which I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>grow up, but I've seen the effects of it. The

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<v Speaker 2>Royal Welsh it's a big fair, big show in the summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and there is a strong correlation between young farmers and

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<v Speaker 2>certain nights at the Royal Welsh where there's effectively a

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<v Speaker 2>bar set aside for them, and it's is carnage, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the best way to put it. But the way

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<v Speaker 2>it's discussed in those among the fire because we have

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<v Speaker 2>friends who have watched their children grow up and then

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<v Speaker 2>go off to these things. The dads are talking to

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<v Speaker 2>the sons about their experiences there, all well shod maybe

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<v Speaker 2>ten or twenty years before them or eighteen years before them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're passing on to them, So there's almost

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<v Speaker 2>an expectation you have to be a complete lunatic.

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<v Speaker 1>You see. That is an interesting thing, right, and a

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<v Speaker 1>question to both of you. See, when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>young farmers or when I was younger playing rugby, all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that were accepted norms in rural areas where

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<v Speaker 1>you were bloated blokes. You've smoked Marlborough all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>or you drank and drove, you did lots of things

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<v Speaker 1>that were just considered would be considered by society now

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<v Speaker 1>as not just unacceptable socially. Half of them get you

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<v Speaker 1>arrested or get you thrown out of things. So therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole idea is that lots of underage drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone smoked, everyone was sort of blokey, blokey, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was I suppose in modern pass inappropriate. But was that

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<v Speaker 1>actually just part and parcel of how rural communities are

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<v Speaker 1>slightly different to our urban counterpart. Is there still this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of gulf between town and country and just the

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<v Speaker 1>way that of behavior attitude are you seeing it still

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<v Speaker 1>thirty forty years later on?

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<v Speaker 3>For me?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I think the way the modern world. Is

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<v Speaker 5>there's such a stigma around young people. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>in a rural community young people have painted in a

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<v Speaker 5>good light, and in a in an urban community they're

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<v Speaker 5>painted in bad light. I think when I speak to

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people about getting together friends, going for

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<v Speaker 5>drink and everything, people always talk about drugs, right, and

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<v Speaker 5>addiction and things like that. And I've been going out

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<v Speaker 5>on nights out with my friends for probably ten years now.

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<v Speaker 4>Drugs.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never never known any anyone that I know get

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<v Speaker 5>involved with drugs, and I think and in young farmers,

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<v Speaker 5>it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never everyone. Everyone likes to have a drink, but.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, no, no, yeah, no one's ever mentioned drugs

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<v Speaker 5>or I've been in a situation where it's involved because.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's interested.

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<v Speaker 5>Like you say, they'd rather smoke Morlborough golds than have

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<v Speaker 5>a have a couple of clients when they're too young,

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<v Speaker 5>than getting involved in illegal activity as.

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<v Speaker 1>Such, that's reassuring. Is it the same poppy with with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're nearly ten years younger than poor old

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<v Speaker 1>Will here he's catching up with me fast. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>something that you see? I mean, is there a gulf

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<v Speaker 1>between you and your age group and peer group with

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<v Speaker 1>those who perhaps might be same age peer groups in

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<v Speaker 1>more urban areas.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tricky question actually now because I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>have friends. I'd have my swimming friends, but like, apart

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<v Speaker 3>from that, I'm very much I only have my young

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<v Speaker 3>farmer friends. As sad as that might seem, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think just with young Farmers, I think I go to

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<v Speaker 3>the pub with them, or you go to the meets

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<v Speaker 3>with them, and it's just real conversations like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>there's not really you're just going. It's nice, chilled vibes

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't have to worry about anything. You can

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just talk about things, whereas maybe with some

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<v Speaker 3>friends that are outside of Young Farmers, I just struggle

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<v Speaker 3>maybe to find something more in common with them, or

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I have to maybe act on something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, that makes sense. It's very difficult to so

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<v Speaker 1>do you find then it's actually something that because your

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<v Speaker 1>interests are also your hobby, that that is where the

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<v Speaker 1>Young Farmers works, whereas perhaps other social circles might be

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<v Speaker 1>revolving around a sport which you play for eighty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then that's it. You have a beer

425
00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:38.519
<v Speaker 1>and then you go home and that's it, is it?

426
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.839
<v Speaker 1>Because the Young Farmers is more of a holistic thing

427
00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:46.279
<v Speaker 1>surrounding farming country life, and it's also your social life

428
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:46.680
<v Speaker 1>as well.

429
00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:51.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that helps massively. I think when you

430
00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:56.839
<v Speaker 3>meet up, it's just a natural talking flow, like and

431
00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.160
<v Speaker 3>it all kind of leads to one thing, Like you

432
00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.720
<v Speaker 3>could talk about any thing you want, but it's all

433
00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:05.240
<v Speaker 3>you've got in common. Like it just seems like everyone's

434
00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:09.000
<v Speaker 3>in common to each other and we've all pretty much.

435
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:11.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the ages are a little bit of a variety,

436
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.880
<v Speaker 3>but it still seems like we're close in age people are.

437
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Maybe your friends might be moving out to a house,

438
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:20.880
<v Speaker 3>you might be at a different stage, but everyone shares

439
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:23.759
<v Speaker 3>what they're kind of going for in life, and I

440
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.039
<v Speaker 3>think it makes it work like that.

441
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:29.759
<v Speaker 5>And that's actually a really good point. Like Young Farmers

442
00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:33.799
<v Speaker 5>is such a support support network as opposed to some

443
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:36.480
<v Speaker 5>friendship groups where you go out and it's a boast

444
00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:39.480
<v Speaker 5>of who's done what, who's done this. But always find

445
00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:42.119
<v Speaker 5>that you go to Young Farmers on a Wednesday night

446
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.799
<v Speaker 5>and no matter how bad your day's been, you don't

447
00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 5>talk to someone and you might talk through your problem

448
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:50.839
<v Speaker 5>and compare a problem or but you do talk about

449
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:52.359
<v Speaker 5>the bad things as much as you talk about the

450
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:55.119
<v Speaker 5>good things, whereas if you went out with some friends,

451
00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:56.519
<v Speaker 5>you'd probably hide it.

452
00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:01.319
<v Speaker 4>Young Farmers is completely the opposite. Which, Yeah, I.

453
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Think you come away from Young Farmers, like you say,

454
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.119
<v Speaker 3>will you could be really down that day, or you

455
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 3>could be really happy, and I think you come away

456
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:11.319
<v Speaker 3>just feeling happier in general because people make you laugh.

457
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 3>You laugh a lot, and I think you just feel

458
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:16.160
<v Speaker 3>a bit lighter when you go home. And that was

459
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:18.279
<v Speaker 3>my experience pretty much every week.

460
00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So a question for both of you then, is

461
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 2>there because we always say on this show that sort

462
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>of the rural element is kind of the minority now

463
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:31.440
<v Speaker 2>because most of the population live in towns most of

464
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the it's quite a small workforce, it's all quite a

465
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>small community. Do you think that in the clubs you

466
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>get the idea there's this sense that you are kind

467
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 2>of a minority within the country by being rural. So

468
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.960
<v Speaker 2>therefore the clubs make more of an effort to make

469
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.920
<v Speaker 2>sure that everyone feels included because you're you're sort of

470
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:54.200
<v Speaker 2>the underdog a little bit.

471
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:55.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

472
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 3>No, I think because we're all maybe from that background

473
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:04.599
<v Speaker 3>or we've got the interests of being rural. I think

474
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 3>it does. We do a lot of things around it,

475
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.640
<v Speaker 3>and I think it probably brings us together some of

476
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.920
<v Speaker 3>the things we do, and even if we're like oh,

477
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Wednesday meet, we'll have different things where we go and

478
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:21.640
<v Speaker 3>meet people and do talks and tours. I think sometimes

479
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.160
<v Speaker 3>it will be interesting to other people, but still with

480
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:27.039
<v Speaker 3>people are really interested, they'll still come along because they

481
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:30.279
<v Speaker 3>want to learn about something, and it's a chance to

482
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.200
<v Speaker 3>actually learn something you probably would ever learn if you

483
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.200
<v Speaker 3>didn't go to Young Farmers. I think there's so much

484
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 3>more opportunity to do things like oh my goodness from

485
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:43.880
<v Speaker 3>joining in like last year. So I'm quite I'm fairly new, maybe,

486
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:46.559
<v Speaker 3>but I've done so much that you just would never

487
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:49.720
<v Speaker 3>ever dream of doing if you just didn't join. Like

488
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I've played hockey for Eastern Aarian Compson. I don't play hockey,

489
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 3>but it was a great day, a great opportunity. And yeah,

490
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.079
<v Speaker 3>that's not anything to do with farming, but it's still

491
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 3>everyone together that's got random bits that connect everyone.

492
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.440
<v Speaker 5>I think, what do you think will Yeah, I think

493
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.279
<v Speaker 5>I think because it's an organization that it's trying to

494
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.200
<v Speaker 5>encourage as many people in that go against the name

495
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.359
<v Speaker 5>of the organization. I mean, if you had a football

496
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:20.960
<v Speaker 5>club that said, oh, we want non football players to

497
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.480
<v Speaker 5>come to a foot club, it wouldn't happen. Now, whereas

498
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 5>Young Farmers is trying to get people in that aren't

499
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.519
<v Speaker 5>young farmers to come along. But going to a meeting

500
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 5>because there's non farmers in a room of farmers, the

501
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 5>farmers are so interested in what the non farmers are

502
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.160
<v Speaker 5>doing because it's someone different. I go along and I

503
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 5>talk to someone and they've sat an attractor today, so

504
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 5>we're comparing attractive. But then we've also got a scaffolder,

505
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 5>so we go and talk to him about his scaffold

506
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.599
<v Speaker 5>polls or something. Or there's also a chapter that works

507
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 5>in a fish shop. But the non farm that No,

508
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.079
<v Speaker 5>the farmers are so interested in what's going on outside

509
00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 5>of the farming world. And I think that mix in

510
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:03.519
<v Speaker 5>a who really creates a conversation. No one's on their phones,

511
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 5>but everyone's talking, and I think that's the most important

512
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 5>thing of a mate.

513
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I noticed that. I mean I went to I've

514
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>given a talk for both your clubs before, and a

515
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>number of times you poor SAPs, but I have noticed

516
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.839
<v Speaker 1>is that there's a slight level of old world charm

517
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>in the fact that you are introduced formally and then

518
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 1>you are formally thanked. But there's also that thing is

519
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>that I look around the room and no one is

520
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>nodding off, no one is looking at their phone.

521
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:36.559
<v Speaker 4>There is a.

522
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Level of attention and politeness in that attention which I

523
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>have to say is sometimes missing in other venues with

524
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.119
<v Speaker 1>other people of quite frequently people who are older, and

525
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:54.599
<v Speaker 1>they may even have bought a ticket silly fools to

526
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 1>come and listen to me talk. So there is a

527
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a slight old fashioned without it being a derogatory term.

528
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 1>There is a slight level of the old fashioned that

529
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:11.079
<v Speaker 1>I've experienced from all of the clubs in Suffolk and

530
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Norfolk that I've had dealings with, and that I think

531
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 1>is part of the reason why I warm to the

532
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Young Farmers. And I have to say, you are the

533
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:28.039
<v Speaker 1>only organization that I don't actually charge a fig two

534
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 1>to go and talk purely and simply because I think, well, A,

535
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got to go and try and pass on what

536
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.799
<v Speaker 1>I know about. But also is that I see that

537
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.319
<v Speaker 1>is genuinely appreciated, and you know that's it, and I

538
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>owe a lot to the young farmers as well, because

539
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I found the same experiences as Poppy has had. I

540
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>don't come from a farming family, but I joined the

541
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:54.039
<v Speaker 1>young farmers and I made loat and I just gathered

542
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>knowledge like the sponge from my farming pals, and then

543
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>they gathered knowledge from me bag well hunting largely, So

544
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was a fair exchange. It was a

545
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>fair exchange. Now, will I want to get onto one

546
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>thing because you is this right? It's your last year

547
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that you're actually yeah.

548
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, I'm coming out the top end now. So

549
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 5>I've done my bit, and yeah I'm too old.

550
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to replace it?

551
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.160
<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know. I honestly don't know.

552
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.519
<v Speaker 5>I think, well, the marathon running is going to take

553
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:30.319
<v Speaker 5>a bit more of a bigger step next year, so

554
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 5>I think I think that's going to be where my

555
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 5>attention goes instead.

556
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And of course you are the small matter of

557
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the chairman of the Hadley Show. Now for Richard lounging

558
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:48.079
<v Speaker 1>there on his chase long, yes he is. It's something

559
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>The Hadley Show is how many years old?

560
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 4>Will this is the one hundred and eighty sixth Yeah,

561
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 4>year of the.

562
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Show, one hundred and eighty sixth year of the Hadley Show.

563
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>So this is something of an institution in this county.

564
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Talk me through how you ended up as a young

565
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>man doing being chairman of this Augustine ancient event, and

566
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 1>what changes you dare make because of your fresh eyes

567
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.359
<v Speaker 1>on it that you dare make to something which is

568
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>an institution.

569
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:27.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, very wisely put.

570
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 5>So I became involved with a Halvy show the same

571
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.640
<v Speaker 5>way as young Farmers. I volunteered all of my time,

572
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:39.400
<v Speaker 5>more than I should have done to an organization. So

573
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:41.960
<v Speaker 5>I started when I was sixteen stewarding on the lighter

574
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 5>roll off the Walkways, and then the year that my

575
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:50.119
<v Speaker 5>brother would show director in twenty eighteen nineteen, I got

576
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 5>more heavily involved helping set up the show.

577
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 4>And yeah take on his job of show Brown Science.

578
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 5>And then since then I've been there through set up

579
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 5>week and been at.

580
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 4>Head steward meetings and everything then the lead up to

581
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:07.920
<v Speaker 4>the show.

582
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, we've got noticed of how much I've put

583
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:13.640
<v Speaker 5>into it, I guess. And so Anne Harrod, who had

584
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:17.640
<v Speaker 5>on the podcast last year, asked me if I'd like

585
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.039
<v Speaker 5>to take it on, and she and of course I

586
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.759
<v Speaker 5>said yes, I'd be stupid to have said no, and

587
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:26.240
<v Speaker 5>so I'm yes. I'm the third member of my family

588
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.200
<v Speaker 5>to do it. So my dad's done it, my brother's

589
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.039
<v Speaker 5>done it, and now it's my turn. So big things

590
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:31.680
<v Speaker 5>coming this year?

591
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 1>Are they?

592
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:33.720
<v Speaker 4>What? Like? What like?

593
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Can you say?

594
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.240
<v Speaker 5>Because of So the Haddy Show supports all the local

595
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 5>charities of Haley and Haley and Farmer's being one of them.

596
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 5>So I've got as many community clubs and organizations.

597
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:49.200
<v Speaker 4>Involved as possible.

598
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 5>So we've got the Rogan Club and the football club involved,

599
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 5>and I've introduced a spotlight stage, so amateur dramatics and

600
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 5>local solo art and also the high school cheerleaders are

601
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:07.119
<v Speaker 5>going to be performing, So anyone and everything something for everyone.

602
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Pride would be there if he wasn't, if he was

603
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>laid out.

604
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:11.519
<v Speaker 4>If he could run.

605
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to say this. From everything you've said,

606
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>this sounds like it's more than a small village fate affair.

607
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>So is the Hadley Show a big deal in Suffolk life?

608
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

609
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>How far is its sort of catchment for this? Is

610
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>this a Suffolk thing? Is it an East Anglian thing?

611
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 2>Is it just arable? What's the what's the sort of

612
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>size of this.

613
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.800
<v Speaker 5>Yes, So in terms of on the show day, so

614
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:43.239
<v Speaker 5>we are local draws, so people that are attending the

615
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.519
<v Speaker 5>show tends to be local areas. So we have fifteen

616
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.320
<v Speaker 5>thousand people from the local area, so that's anywhere around Colchester,

617
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 5>Ipswich in that area. But in terms of showing, so

618
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:59.000
<v Speaker 5>our sheep showing and our cattle come from Norfolk, Essex

619
00:34:59.079 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 5>and Suffolk.

620
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 4>We've all our sheep classes.

621
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 5>And our cattle classes are sold near enough sold out

622
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 5>this year from people coming from.

623
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 4>All over East Anglis.

624
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:13.639
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, it's local community and greater community as well,

625
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:15.360
<v Speaker 5>greater farming community.

626
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 4>And probably more livestock.

627
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.079
<v Speaker 5>Actually, I mean we've got this, I've got to display

628
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.880
<v Speaker 5>this year of farming through the ages. So we've got

629
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 5>a shower horse and then attraction engine, followed by machinery

630
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 5>from the nineteen sixties and then modern day machinery. So

631
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:32.920
<v Speaker 5>that's a bit of arable. But other than that, there's

632
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 5>a big onus on our local livestock.

633
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this is a thing about these The

634
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.800
<v Speaker 2>local shows are one of those things that has survived

635
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>quite well within the rural communities, aren't they Because they've

636
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 2>sort of survived when a lot of other farming enterprises

637
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:58.400
<v Speaker 2>and farming community events have for one reason another sort

638
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>of they've disappeared off the calendar. Is the community element

639
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.760
<v Speaker 2>of these shows a massive? Is that the big thing

640
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:11.880
<v Speaker 2>behind it? Is it something commercial? Why do these regional

641
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>shows still keep going so well?

642
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:20.000
<v Speaker 4>I think I wouldn't say the one used, The one

643
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:20.639
<v Speaker 4>word we.

644
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.679
<v Speaker 5>Don't use with the Haley Show is commercial. Everything is

645
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.440
<v Speaker 5>small scale and local rather than worried about the money.

646
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:32.880
<v Speaker 5>But I think much like young farmers, it's the traditional

647
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.519
<v Speaker 5>side of it because it's still got your fair ground rides,

648
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 5>but you've still got your small stools, your local producers,

649
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 5>local food, local livestock, and socializing. A lot of people

650
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.400
<v Speaker 5>come to the Hanley Show and possibly see people that

651
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 5>they haven't seen since the last show, that you catch

652
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 5>up with all going on around traditional white wide span

653
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 5>white marquees and stewards in fascinators, dresses, boiler hats and

654
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 5>dark suits. And I think people like the traditional side

655
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 5>of it. That's what say, was it over go into

656
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:09.760
<v Speaker 5>a festival?

657
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 2>I guess if we ever do some scented candles from

658
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 2>this show, I think one of them has to be

659
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>the smell of a canvas marquee on a hot day

660
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>over trampled grass, you know, just that and the dog

661
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 2>tent the dog breeds tend to think is the other

662
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 2>one we said we'd.

663
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Do not however, I do not want to have a

664
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>scented candle of the scent of the beer tent of

665
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the Royal Welsh Show. After all, the young farmers no

666
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>be quite a thing, Poppy, Are you doing anything at

667
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 1>the Suffolk Show this year? Because the young farmers are

668
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 1>quite famed for being asked to produce creative things as

669
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>well as sort of going on farm busits and talking

670
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 1>about tractors and pto shafts and the latest drill. You're

671
00:37:55.159 --> 00:38:00.679
<v Speaker 1>quite often sort of asked to do create tip stuff.

672
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.639
<v Speaker 1>And I seem to remember that he's quite often shown

673
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>off at the at the Suffolk Show. I mean, is

674
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.679
<v Speaker 1>that does that still go on? Now?

675
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we've actually got at the Suffolk Show this year.

676
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 3>I think we're making like a wooden box in well,

677
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 3>like a wooden square box. And I think we've got floristry, baking,

678
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>what a bit of croach showing. I think, so it

679
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 3>kind of all has to fit in this wooden box.

680
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 3>It's very random, but it is quite cool. I think

681
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 3>we've got I'm doing the baking side of it. Actually no,

682
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 3>the baking doesn't need to be for the Suffok Show.

683
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 3>That's for the Hadley Show, but they're kind of the

684
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 3>box is still being used for the Suffolk Show, so

685
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:48.039
<v Speaker 3>a bit of like florestry work, which I know someone

686
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.400
<v Speaker 3>from Young Farmers is doing as they're a florists, so

687
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.760
<v Speaker 3>it is quite creative. And then I think we've got

688
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:59.880
<v Speaker 3>an obstable Yeah sorry, I can't say.

689
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 1>That obstacle course yeah.

690
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:08.800
<v Speaker 3>At Suffolk Show. And then we've got sheep showing as well,

691
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.480
<v Speaker 3>so we've got a few things going on. Gets quite

692
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.159
<v Speaker 3>busy for us. And we've got a scrap book as well,

693
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.559
<v Speaker 3>so and obviously we've got the Young Farmer's stand as well.

694
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you use those shows as recruitment grounds and if

695
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>so does it work? Do you get people sort of

696
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>signing up as a result of that poppy?

697
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 3>And we definitely have our stands to promote young Farmers

698
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:39.360
<v Speaker 3>and spread not awareness, but spread it about, spread the

699
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.960
<v Speaker 3>word about what we do and what it is like.

700
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 3>But I'd say maybe for juniors it gets a bit

701
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 3>more popular because obviously you're there with your parents you're

702
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot younger, and you go around and I think

703
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.440
<v Speaker 3>it's something parents look at and go, oh, look here

704
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:58.519
<v Speaker 3>it is, and then you show what you do and stuff.

705
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.599
<v Speaker 3>So maybe for younger children, definitely. I'm not so sure

706
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:06.320
<v Speaker 3>about maybe sixteen year olds and that, but definitely for

707
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:07.639
<v Speaker 3>younger children I think.

708
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, you've always had a very thriving club.

709
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>You mean you ran the junior section as well as

710
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:17.599
<v Speaker 1>part of your thing. I mean, how did you go

711
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>about recruiting this disparate group of young people because I

712
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>mean there are very few of them are actually farmers,

713
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>sons or daughters in your your juniors. I noticed when

714
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I last spoke to them, surprise surprise about hedges at

715
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the Black Flea Barn.

716
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 4>Was it Flee Barney?

717
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, so I mean there's a lot of non

718
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>far How do you go about recruiting these young people?

719
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:45.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

720
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 5>Like probably says a show is a great place for

721
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 5>a parent to be dragging their child in to go,

722
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:52.440
<v Speaker 5>oh you want to sign.

723
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:53.039
<v Speaker 4>Up or to sign up.

724
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:55.679
<v Speaker 5>But I think the best advert for young farms at

725
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:59.280
<v Speaker 5>the moment to get people involved is through social media.

726
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 5>It's so easy to put a post up of what

727
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 5>fun you're having, or the variety of meetings you're having,

728
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:09.840
<v Speaker 5>or the sports you've won, or anything. Because it's you

729
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:12.920
<v Speaker 5>can orchestrate a good photo on social media to show

730
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 5>a crowded room or a variety.

731
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Of people in a photo.

732
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 5>And that's how, especially in junior's clubs, I've I came

733
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.840
<v Speaker 5>to have waiting list of people wanting to come because

734
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:27.119
<v Speaker 5>we had so many people wanting to come that it

735
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:29.559
<v Speaker 5>would have made it unsafe to have them all, good

736
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 5>God to come at once.

737
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.199
<v Speaker 2>Well that's that's the result. What's the what's the spread

738
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 2>of ages?

739
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Then?

740
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Now for young farmers? What's the lower and upper limits?

741
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 5>So ten to sixteen for juniors in Suffolk and then

742
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:44.840
<v Speaker 5>sixteen to twenty eight for seniors.

743
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.599
<v Speaker 4>So I spent I think.

744
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 5>I spent five years giving up my Friday nights to

745
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 5>play games and find people to talk to a group

746
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 5>of ten to sixteen year olds. So yeah, it definitely

747
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 5>came me out of the pubs anyway.

748
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Trying to keep that age group of young people infused

749
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.599
<v Speaker 1>their attention span and where it makes my Cocker Spaniels

750
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:16.480
<v Speaker 1>look like they're sort of you know, studious thinkers. It's

751
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.639
<v Speaker 1>absolutely bonkers. Did you end up tearing your hair out

752
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>having to go and try and find something to entertain

753
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.920
<v Speaker 1>these young rural hooligans.

754
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, there's not been.

755
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:31.400
<v Speaker 5>There's not many times I've had a talk from someone

756
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 5>such as I don't know the local Lowland Search and

757
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:36.519
<v Speaker 5>Rescue and the end of the night with the game

758
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.480
<v Speaker 5>of Duck Duck goose to try and get a bit

759
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 5>of energy before I send them home. I mean if

760
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.800
<v Speaker 5>I if I tried that, Hadley now, I think that, yeah,

761
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:46.800
<v Speaker 5>I'd be the only one.

762
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I can, I can. I can see that.

763
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 1>How are your numbers poppy at Debenham I mean, what

764
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:59.400
<v Speaker 1>do you have a junior section at Debenham So we've got.

765
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:05.760
<v Speaker 3>A genius and then we're there's more in it seniors.

766
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.679
<v Speaker 3>So I think at the moment we've got like sixty

767
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 3>five members. But obviously they don't all come every week.

768
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:18.480
<v Speaker 3>A lot has you know, come when they can. I mean,

769
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:23.400
<v Speaker 3>lives are busy, aren't they. So we're certainly getting more

770
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 3>I think definitely through other people and then they're like, oh,

771
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:29.039
<v Speaker 3>my friend she's going to come this week, or they're

772
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.480
<v Speaker 3>going to come, which is really good because it gets

773
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:33.320
<v Speaker 3>around the world, gets found.

774
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 2>How does it working. Is that was the club I

775
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>was in? You just sort of knew the club, and

776
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 2>then you knew the next town sort of had a club,

777
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:42.639
<v Speaker 2>but there was one further along. Is it that each

778
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 2>club is like its own separate organization or are you

779
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.239
<v Speaker 2>part of the county or how does that work you?

780
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 2>There's a national Federation, isn't it. That's kind of a

781
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 2>really loose collection.

782
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

783
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so there's there's NFY, the National Federation, and then

784
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 5>under that we have the Suffolk Federation, right, and then

785
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:09.400
<v Speaker 5>we're clubs under that federation. Yeah, so plenty of people

786
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 5>to tell you what you can and can't do when

787
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:12.519
<v Speaker 5>you're trying to plan a party.

788
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Or how much did the Clarkson factor influence the spiking membership? Was?

789
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Was it? Do people go and watch Didley squat and

790
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>they went I want some of that? They wanted to

791
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>be Caleb? Did you did you see a spike poppy

792
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>because of because because of Clarkson?

793
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:42.000
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think so. To be honest, I haven't noticed.

794
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:43.800
<v Speaker 3>To be honest.

795
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.159
<v Speaker 1>With you, I think well that ruined that ruined that,

796
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:47.599
<v Speaker 1>that question, didn't it?

797
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:47.800
<v Speaker 3>No?

798
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Bill, did you notice.

799
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Just loading in this question?

800
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:59.679
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say yes, that really will.

801
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yes, I think so because people were because Clarkson

802
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 5>was so honest about what was going on and the

803
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.760
<v Speaker 5>good and the bad. We And it also came just

804
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.000
<v Speaker 5>after COVID, didn't it. So I think there was a

805
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.519
<v Speaker 5>there was a correlation between COVID happening and Clerks unhappening,

806
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 5>and I think both had a positive impact. People were

807
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 5>trying to get out again. People were either good joining

808
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 5>sports clubs to try and get out and appreciate seeing people,

809
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.280
<v Speaker 5>or young farmers. And I think, yeah, a lot of

810
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.559
<v Speaker 5>people got into young farmers at that point because they

811
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.039
<v Speaker 5>realized that it wasn't that industry that was pretty food

812
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:42.079
<v Speaker 5>of old people talking about the archers and realized it's

813
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 5>a group of young people talking about the Yeah, I.

814
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Think it's different. Like I've definitely well, I point noticed

815
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:55.480
<v Speaker 3>the difference in like maybe young people doing more tiktoks

816
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:57.559
<v Speaker 3>around farming, and I'm not sure if that's because of

817
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Harriet and Caleb and the whole the whole series of that.

818
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.159
<v Speaker 3>I think that definitely influenced young farmers to do more

819
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 3>social media because of Caleb and Harriet.

820
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's interesting. So I mean it is I mean,

821
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not on TikTok, I have to say, but you are.

822
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:20.559
<v Speaker 2>You just don't know it. I put them on there.

823
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh dear shit, what time it does? It does seem though,

824
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>because they then sort of morph over, sort of six

825
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.599
<v Speaker 1>weeks later onto what the old people are on Instagram

826
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and X and I do see more, you know, younger farmers,

827
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:41.599
<v Speaker 1>and they are when it's lambing season there they are,

828
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 1>everyone's lambing. And then it seems to be that there

829
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.800
<v Speaker 1>was a uniform for lambing and oh hello, we're sudden

830
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in our tractor again, and everyone's got that same shot

831
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of them, you know, so it's looking through the steering

832
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>wheel at them. That's interesting is that that has helped

833
00:46:55.920 --> 00:47:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the sexying up of farming too, because you think that

834
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the TikTok generation of the new agriculturists, even if they

835
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 1>come from Peckham, that's quite interesting.

836
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:10.360
<v Speaker 4>I suppose farmers have always been a bit of a

837
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 4>del boy, haven't they.

838
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something we had when we

839
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.000
<v Speaker 2>started this stupid bloody podcast, which is about there about

840
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.000
<v Speaker 2>six months in where we thought we just wind it up,

841
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 2>and then people were getting in touch saying now I

842
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:28.280
<v Speaker 2>listened to you when I'm out in the tractor, you

843
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 2>know you're you're because when you're in a tractor going

844
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:31.199
<v Speaker 2>back and.

845
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Forth, particularly sort of this.

846
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Time of year, when it's you're on your own in

847
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the field and you've got four hundred acres to do

848
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.800
<v Speaker 2>before the end of the week, there's not a lot

849
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:44.079
<v Speaker 2>of talking and stuff to do, is there. So is

850
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:46.800
<v Speaker 2>the social and media element maybe a way of connecting

851
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.920
<v Speaker 2>with some other poor sod whoes in another tractor doing

852
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.719
<v Speaker 2>their four hundred acres. That like, you've sort of building

853
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.639
<v Speaker 2>a remote community that's not reliant on having to see

854
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:59.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody in person or somebody coming up to the to

855
00:47:59.000 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the cab to talk to you.

856
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:03.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think.

857
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.920
<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of people in previous generations didn't

858
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 5>have a phone in the middle of a field, barely

859
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 5>had a radio and they might have listened to the

860
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:14.079
<v Speaker 5>radio one road show over harvest and that was that

861
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:18.599
<v Speaker 5>highlight of their year. But I think now, because we're

862
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 5>connected all the time, it's made the job of sitting

863
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:25.320
<v Speaker 5>on our track to a bit more fashionable. Again, I

864
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:27.960
<v Speaker 5>think people because you're not disconnected from the outside world

865
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.000
<v Speaker 5>while you're sat down not really.

866
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:31.480
<v Speaker 4>Doing a lot.

867
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:36.719
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I think social media has really helped with that.

868
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 5>But then also similarly, I find myself now coming out

869
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:43.480
<v Speaker 5>the other side of the whole social media bubble, and

870
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:45.039
<v Speaker 5>I'm now ringing my friends a.

871
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Lot more good law.

872
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.280
<v Speaker 5>And I find I've got my closest friend in particular.

873
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 5>I think we've phone in each other most days to

874
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 5>have a chat, to catch up to ask what so

875
00:48:56.360 --> 00:49:00.159
<v Speaker 5>and so is doing next door. But he's actually the

876
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.000
<v Speaker 5>habby and Farmer's chairman this year. But yeah, we speak

877
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 5>to each other every single day on the phone. We

878
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 5>probably message each other once in a blue moon, but

879
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.079
<v Speaker 5>we will speak religiously every day just for a chat,

880
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 5>and because I know that he's sat on the tractor

881
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:16.280
<v Speaker 5>all day seeing no one. And again, I think it's

882
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:19.440
<v Speaker 5>the traditional aspect that a lot of people are coming

883
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 5>back to just having a proper chat rather than and

884
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.360
<v Speaker 5>yeah Facebook message or something coffee.

885
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Is that the same with you? What's your social media useage?

886
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Other ones don't really. I mean I use Instagram, but

887
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't really do TikTok or Facebook very well. I

888
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.320
<v Speaker 3>do use social media for my job. Like Will says,

889
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.920
<v Speaker 3>it does spread the word in it gets people knowing

890
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 3>where you are as a lot of coffee band, so

891
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm in different locations, so it does help to spread

892
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.559
<v Speaker 3>the word where I am. For my own personal useage,

893
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't use it too much.

894
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>No, no, But do you mean is it something you

895
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>find with your fellow club members? Is that you know

896
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>when they are sat on that tractor, is that this

897
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:11.000
<v Speaker 1>is their world, this is their only means of communication

898
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:14.719
<v Speaker 1>with their peers. Yeah.

899
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 3>No, I do have a few friends that do work long,

900
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:23.000
<v Speaker 3>long hours, and I do get some phone calls. I

901
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:27.400
<v Speaker 3>get some snapchats of what they're doing. So yeah, no,

902
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 3>I do, especially when it's longer days and they're on

903
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 3>their own harvest. If they can't make somewhere like what

904
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 3>we're doing in an evening, then I'll just call them instead, okay,

905
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 3>because it can be really lonely for them.

906
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 2>So last couple of questions then, for both of you,

907
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Because well, as we know Richard Nigus over there is

908
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:55.480
<v Speaker 2>he is pretty much neolithic now. He is incredibly old

909
00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and judging about his writing as well as actually from

910
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the nineteenth century. And I'm well on my way there.

911
00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:06.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm sort of older than my years, although my leg

912
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:07.800
<v Speaker 2>is catching up with me in aging.

913
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Bits of it are very new.

914
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes they are quite bry on it. Yes they're still

915
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.800
<v Speaker 2>cooling down. But when you listen to sort of you know,

916
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:24.599
<v Speaker 2>from forty or above talk about farming and the countryside,

917
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:28.079
<v Speaker 2>it strikes me that all the commentators are very doom

918
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.320
<v Speaker 2>and gloom and all this and all the challenges and

919
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.840
<v Speaker 2>these are all the problems. But whenever I speak to

920
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:37.039
<v Speaker 2>somebody who's under thirty, they're quite positive and they're quite

921
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.519
<v Speaker 2>cheerful about things. And it seems to be like there's

922
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot more energy and enthusiasm at the bottom end

923
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.119
<v Speaker 2>than there is in the because what are we average

924
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 2>age of a farmer's sixty two or something like that

925
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.800
<v Speaker 2>for a farm owner. So why is that something you

926
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 2>guys have experienced yourselves. Is it something that you've noticed

927
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 2>that sort of your peers are more cheerful about things

928
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and there's a load of misery old gets at the

929
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:06.400
<v Speaker 2>top end. Will's thinking of his future career there as

930
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.400
<v Speaker 2>well and calling his colleagues miserable old gits.

931
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, and I think, yeah, there's definitely there's definitely

932
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 5>young people that are glass half full, and there's a

933
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:21.639
<v Speaker 5>lot of older people which are glass half empty.

934
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:23.559
<v Speaker 4>There's of course those ones that cross over.

935
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.360
<v Speaker 5>But I don't know whether that's because people aren't in charge,

936
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:31.440
<v Speaker 5>so they're just worrying about what shiny piece of equipment

937
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 5>they've got, what the numb plate is on their tractor

938
00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:36.840
<v Speaker 5>and not where, wondering whether money's coming from, and haven't

939
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 5>got to worry about their inheritance yet. But then the

940
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:45.440
<v Speaker 5>other ones that are glass half empty are I suppose

941
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 5>we've seen it, or we've been here, we've done that,

942
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:49.920
<v Speaker 5>we've tried it, it doesn't work, it's not going to happen.

943
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.480
<v Speaker 5>I think they're too settled in where they are and

944
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.440
<v Speaker 5>but not thinking about outside the picture and what it

945
00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:58.679
<v Speaker 5>could be as such.

946
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think it's hard. I think a lot

947
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:07.719
<v Speaker 3>of people, maybe from not just Debenham like all over,

948
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:12.239
<v Speaker 3>especially the people that are have their own home farms,

949
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 3>do struggle and it's hard to be positive. And I'm

950
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.400
<v Speaker 3>not saying that they they're not being negative, but I

951
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 3>think they're being realistic and I think they do struggle

952
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 3>and they do find hard to see the positives because

953
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I suppose there is a lot at the moment that

954
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 3>isn't positive. And I think when you are on a

955
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:35.840
<v Speaker 3>little farm, family farm of your own you do worry.

956
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 3>It's hard not to.

957
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean do you get fed up with winging

958
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:44.719
<v Speaker 1>old toads like me gain? Well, I'll tell you what.

959
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.800
<v Speaker 1>It's the bloody Labor Party. It's one they've done. They've

960
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:48.599
<v Speaker 1>naked from me.

961
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Are you asking Will and Poppy that or me?

962
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:54.800
<v Speaker 1>But obviously we know where you're at, right right? Just

963
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:59.360
<v Speaker 1>shut up? Is it something I look at everything through

964
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:06.679
<v Speaker 1>the prism of the farming and I need healthy, wealthy

965
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:10.559
<v Speaker 1>farming to continue my business. So I am just as

966
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:15.159
<v Speaker 1>impacted as the farmer. You know, if the farm goes,

967
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:19.440
<v Speaker 1>my work goes. So it's something that I do look at.

968
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Is that we've got to have a political party that

969
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:28.280
<v Speaker 1>or parties that have some inkling and support of farming.

970
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're now leaving young farmers. Will you're part

971
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of a family farm. Is it something that you're looking

972
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in the future and you think, regardless of what changes,

973
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 1>we're stuffed or do you have or you are that

974
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Are you that half that glass half full character who's thinking, yeah,

975
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:51.039
<v Speaker 1>there's an opportunity here and it's still worth being in

976
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:51.840
<v Speaker 1>this industry.

977
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:56.960
<v Speaker 5>Well, I look at other people and think they're miserable,

978
00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:58.719
<v Speaker 5>so they probably think so throughout me. But I'd like

979
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:03.519
<v Speaker 5>to think glass half full. I mean, everything could be

980
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:06.440
<v Speaker 5>could be better, but it could also be a lot

981
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:09.079
<v Speaker 5>lot worse. I mean, you don't have to look far

982
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:11.760
<v Speaker 5>around the world to find a country with an agricultural

983
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:16.800
<v Speaker 5>industry that's worse than ours and well better than ours.

984
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean we're stuck in the middle. I mean we're

985
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:23.039
<v Speaker 5>still there's still people trying to sabotage us, but there's

986
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:26.280
<v Speaker 5>people trying to help us out and find the route

987
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:29.559
<v Speaker 5>to make it work, and there's reward for that and

988
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:34.440
<v Speaker 5>there's a result from that. So I think, yeah, I

989
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.360
<v Speaker 5>don't think it's worth being miserable about because just because

990
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 5>it's the way it is, it doesn't mean we have

991
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:42.679
<v Speaker 5>to like it. But in another four years time, we

992
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:46.559
<v Speaker 5>may have a different government and Niger Frage might be

993
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.280
<v Speaker 5>changing things and there might be Yeah, we might be

994
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:53.679
<v Speaker 5>in a different, completely different way of living.

995
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:57.320
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, well that's I think a jolly good

996
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:01.119
<v Speaker 1>place to end the main part of the show, because

997
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 1>that is on a note of positivity. There is sunlit

998
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 1>uplands possibly and a glass is half full, and more

999
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:12.840
<v Speaker 1>importantly mine's completely empty. The Adnams supply has run dry.

1000
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Richard's with oh look it's all that so we can't

1001
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:21.320
<v Speaker 1>see poppy Unfortunately, visual media again, Suffolk Internet has just

1002
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of you know, done its thing again. Well look,

1003
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:31.639
<v Speaker 1>thank you both for coming on. I think that we'll

1004
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:36.639
<v Speaker 1>put some links on to the young farmers, so that

1005
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:40.639
<v Speaker 1>should anyone listening to this be interested and how they

1006
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>can contact their local club. One final thing, because you

1007
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.360
<v Speaker 1>know it's our show and we're allowed to do it.

1008
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Will you've got one minute to tell everyone why they

1009
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.880
<v Speaker 1>should come to the Hadley Show. Go good.

1010
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:59.039
<v Speaker 5>Well, the Habby Show is the best advert for farming

1011
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:02.280
<v Speaker 5>and the community in one place. Where else do you

1012
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:05.719
<v Speaker 5>think you'll ever be able to buy a bag of fudge,

1013
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.320
<v Speaker 5>see a sheet in fancy dress and also watch the

1014
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:14.400
<v Speaker 5>high school cheerleaders In such a small area, the concentration

1015
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:18.480
<v Speaker 5>of community will have a bit of everything and something

1016
00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:19.079
<v Speaker 5>for everyone.

1017
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic date. Well, when's the.

1018
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:25.679
<v Speaker 5>Date sixteenth of May twenty twenty six at wholbexs Park,

1019
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:27.039
<v Speaker 5>hald happen excellent.

1020
00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you very much both of you for coming on,

1021
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:33.679
<v Speaker 1>and thank you for putting up with the slight metallic

1022
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:38.599
<v Speaker 1>creaking sound that is my friend Richard Prudeaux thank you,

1023
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:41.039
<v Speaker 1>goodbye everyone, thank you.

1024
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:43.639
<v Speaker 4>So much for having goodbye. Thank you, thank you.

1025
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was a spiffing out for