Speaker 1: Welcome to Wade You talked today, the gold standard of
sports betting shows, where we talk the talk and walk
the walk. My god, it's noon Eastern time and there's
just DANDAG get in here. We have so much going on,
too much. There's too much, it really is. So we
need to go over what's happened in the golf tournament
and with our fish pick. But give us the rundown
because we got a jam pack show. We got a
ton of guests. What are we going over on this show?
And then let's talk some bets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's being called Moric howa Gate. We'll talk about
that coming up here in just a few Here on
Way to Talk today, Yanni's gonna kick us off. He's back, folks.
We're gonna run down the Steam Sheet, the Steam Report
with him. Then we're gonna get to Joe Ranaii because
he's gonna give you a best bet for you live viewers,
twelve thirty Iowa State, Texas Tech. How should you bet it?
Joe's gonna let you know he's also got some NBA
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Speaker 3: Andy.
Speaker 2: You're taking them all around the world.
Speaker 3: We have no time to waste. Andy, Let's get these
folks and winners here.
Speaker 1: Man, Okay, So let's address the Colin Morrikawa situation.
Speaker 4: So this was leg three of our Lenitt Ride mission.
Speaker 1: Colin Morricawa plays one hole, goes to the second tea box,
takes a practice swing, hurts us back, and withdraws.
Speaker 4: Here's how the books.
Speaker 1: As I've I've talked to a couple books.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I talked to one book.
Speaker 1: DraftKings and MGM properties are avoiding and Dan, you saw
that in your account already it's been voided.
Speaker 5: Yeah, mine avoid.
Speaker 1: Friend of the show Seth played this on BET three
sixty five. That is being graded as a loss. You're
gonna have to check your books. I don't even I
don't even have advice except for this. If your book
does not void, I would raise Holy hell. I would
argue and argue and argue. I would cite DraftKings, I
would cite BET MGM. I would send them the tweets,
the social media. I would site fight. It's a long shot,
but it can't happen. I have done this. I have
argued my way into voids when something was BS. So
it's gonna be graded on DraftKings and MGM as voids.
If your book does not void it, I'm taking my
business elsewhere. If you guys don't avoid this, I'm going
to the books, like, do whatever you can.
Speaker 2: Ye even if your business. This is your time to
be a Karen. Go Karen. I got mine voided. You
got to get yours voided. If you bet it over
at the.
Speaker 1: Blue book man, Yes, yeah, so uh let's bring in Yanni.
Speaker 4: Yanni A crazy situation.
Speaker 1: Uh you you've you've had a million bets in your day.
Speaker 4: What uh? What do you do with the situation like this,
it's so weird.
Speaker 1: Huh sorry, so so yeah, so we had this golfer
he played one hole and then he withdrew because he
heard his back. Some books are avoiding it. Some books
are not voiding it. My advice is if your book
doesn't avoid it, raise holy hell.
Speaker 6: That's oh yeah yeah, because they don't want to keep
you around. That's the thing like for them to just
credit it take some nothing, takes them a second to do.
Always push back. It's almost like I talked about with
the rating. You never want to walk away from blackjack table,
roulette wheel without talking to a pit bulls first and
asking them, hey, what are you putting me in for?
You want to know what your your rating is, because
you could easily push that off. And here, for example,
let's say I'm sitting here a twenty five dollars table,
so it's twenty.
Speaker 2: Five dollar limit.
Speaker 6: I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing two hours
go by. I go to check out and I say, okay.
Usually people just leave and it's a twenty five dollars table.
The pitpolls ain't paying attention, so he's going to put
you down twenty five dollars average hand for two hours.
That's what's going to go in the system. But you
could change that very easily. You stop, you say, excuse me,
what are you putting me in for? And he's gonna say, yeah,
your average about twenty five a hand, and say, no, no, big,
you got to do better than that.
Speaker 3: Please.
Speaker 6: Last time the guy did that to me and it
ruined you know, my comps. Say, I played dozens of
fifty one hundred dollars hands throughout these these two hours.
You've got to do better than that. They're always going
to give you more, Like easily, he'll bump that up
to fifty a hand, seventy five a hand, And that
difference in ROI is huge because as a gambler, that's
part of your ROI, your comps, so you're able to
get at least for you know, advantage players being able
to get all that stuff for free is huge. But
if you don't ask for it, of course they're not
going to give it to you. It doesn't cost him anything, like,
it's not the pit buss's money. So he gets to
play demand for a second, and you know, you make
him feel good like you have all this control all
this power. You can put me in for one hundred
a hand, bro I had a guy at the BALLAJO,
I swear to you that put me in at a
five thousand dollars average hand.
Speaker 2: Like he almost did it jokingly.
Speaker 6: Because I played a five thousand dollars hand and he
put down that average for me and it really played
like maybe an hour of ninety minutes. But within ten
days I got the best offers I ever received in
my life from MGM, just because that dude put in
that five thousand average hand and I probably was averaged
in like maybe one thousand, fifteen hundred back then, but
he jacked that up and again it cost him nothing,
and no one's going to care about that. So, Yeah,
if you got burned on that bet, email customer support,
stay on top of that. Tell them all their books
are paying it out, and believe me, more times than not,
they're going to take care of you.
Speaker 1: Agreed completely. Yeah, they want to keep you around, and
you don't know until you ask. Yeah, that's that's that's
the biggest thing. You like, if you don't ask, you're
never gonna be You're never gonna know exactly what.
Speaker 4: Won't be shocked yea, yes, the hound them. So all right,
let's get to the steamshet.
Speaker 1: I know we're heavy on college basketball games are already
going starting.
Speaker 4: So what do we got so far?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and there's a lot and like yesterday's steamsheet, And
I don't want subscribers, especially new subscribers, to get disappointed
because we've been low vodueing the last two days.
Speaker 2: This is by design.
Speaker 6: We're betting everything, and that's why I've added it into
the steamsheet so that you're able to also bet on
stuff that you like. Obviously, if you're handicapping and and
and betting your own stuff, I'm helping you confirm it,
like I'm able to do with the stuff that I'm
watching from all the betting syndicates. But I remained very
selected the first day or two because historically I know
that a lot of two way action is taking place,
and we're seeing a lot of that, meaning there's a
lot of manipulation going on. If you're trying to read
the board, it's very difficult at this time. A perfect
example of that is look at Saint John. Saint John's
just went off, and if you look at that line,
it's very hard to conclude what happened, like is their
sharp side? What is the sharp side? You look at
like a bed online. They opened it, overnights got hit.
But since then it's kind of sit at eleven, eleven
and a half, twelve, twelve and a half going back down.
It's real hard to determine are they on the dog,
are they on the favorite? Like if you're guessing at
this point. It's real difficult with the conference tournament and
March Madness because it isn't that clear. These lines are
really tight, kind of like NFL playoffs, where once the
line moves significantly, usually the value has been extracted, and
many times it's on the other side. So we're seeing
a lot of games being bet on both sides today.
Perfect example, Ohio State Iowa State. I have two different
groups that I bet for. One of them has Ohio
stated to pick them, the other one has Iowa at
plus two, so both our plus ev long term both
have been profitable, but one season had to pick them
with value, the other one at plus two, and probably
if you look that game is going to go off,
it probably won, you know, somewhere there in the middle.
So there's nothing wrong with being selective because when you
do have conviction, you're gonna get a ton of value
this time of year because of the influx of recreational betters.
So here's some of that college basketball stuff that is
in the accounts already. Seven forty nine Mississippi plus six
and a half, Saint John's I told you about that
one went off seven thirty two, Seaton Hall minus the three,
seven sixty four, Canyon minus three and a half, seven
seventy four, Charlotte minus the one, seven thirteen, George Washington
minus six and a half, seven eighteen, Ducane minus one,
and extra board game three zero six five to one
one under Alabama A and m Texas Southern under one
forty two and a half one three. We hit that
from like. That's another one where it looks like the
line got bet over, but it was all manipulated to
get steamed under. You're seeing a lot of that with
the totals, and you're seeing a lot of to reaction
with the sign So be very cautious if your approach
is piggybacking the sharp move, Like there's there's a lot
of sharp action in the market right now because there's
a lot of money.
Speaker 3: To be made.
Speaker 6: Signed totals, first half, second half, team totals. I'm seeing
these boards get bet so much andy, Like this is
like a Saturday of college basketball, but on a smaller board,
Like over these nets couple of weeks is a ton
of betting opportunities. Don't let it overwhelm you because of
the amount of matchups and the fact that every couple
hours we have a group of four or five games
going off. Like if you're not prepared and you have
to handicap that next slate of games, let it go
go on to the next one. Like there's a lot,
a lot of work you're gonna have to put in
over these next couple of weeks because, like I said,
just so much betting opportunities. But there's nothing wrong with
being selective picking your spots because again the value will
be there and the numbers don't lie. So far, so good,
and just going to keep grinding away if you have
any particular matchups, anything you want to touch on, any
questions I got, Like I said, I.
Speaker 2: Power rated every single game.
Speaker 6: What I do is I wait to see is place
come in if it matches my power rating, we fire
seven to twenty one NC State, perfect example, that game
just went off. I had it power rated Virginia minus
four and a half five max at seven. I thought
it was a good play. I like the way it
matched up as well. We took NC State. Another play
that came in was where's that early one? Did George
Washington Fordham? They steamed that over, but my power ratings
showed that the total under was the value side, so
I passed. I didn't even touch it. And that's just
how I've been approaching it. So some days guys will
have volume because it lines up with the power ratings.
Speaker 5: Other times we won't.
Speaker 6: The bottom line is we're turning profit and right now
as we head into today's action up over eighty five
units number one in college basketball, fifty five percent over
four hundred and fifty bets, five point six percent ROI.
We could do that all day, every day, So let's
make some money over the next couple weeks.
Speaker 1: So with these coverage tournaments, like the line, you don't
know who's playing who from day to day. So the
books are coming out with these lines. Is it just
vanilla lines? And that's why these sharps and these syndicates
have the advantage.
Speaker 6: Yes, because it's almost it's almost like the overnights that
are ninety plus percent power rating, and then you start
acting factors in let go, wait, this guy played too
many minutes, or this guy didn't play any minutes, he
got fouled out by the first half, you know what
I mean. Like, then you start digging into the games
by game and how they match up, because, like you said,
you don't even know who they're playing next, and you
can't anticipate. Like again, you know that Duke's gonna be whoever,
and they're going to advance. We get that, But there's
the other side of the bracket. And if you try
to get out ahead and try to figure out how
it's going to turn out, so you could start creating lines,
that's just foolish. You should already have your numbers set
up each team so that when the matchup comes up,
it should take you all three minutes to do the calculation.
At least that's how I work. I have every team
power rated, so if you tell me teammvers Team B,
I do the calculation that gives me a number to
at least work with, and then from there I start
looking at my factors too. So I think that's why
you do get a ton of two way action because
a lot of these lines are going to be like
sometimes way off based on recency bias, based on what
happened last night, because the don it does, it changed
the complexity of the game the next game. But if
if it wasn't so recent, that may not be the case.
But having just played less than you know, twelve hours ago,
you do have to factor that in where recency bias
actually does matter.
Speaker 1: Anything you're seeing in NBA tonight, I believe you were
on the Heat.
Speaker 3: Possibly, yeah, Miami Heat.
Speaker 6: We got got down on Miami early and I saw
a little follow through on Miami as well. What I
will share with you, here's the NBA that's being bet
with college basketball.
Speaker 3: Here's what they're doing.
Speaker 6: They're not spending much time on NBA, so they're looking
at the NBA board real quickly. When I say day,
I mean the recreational better s casual betters, and they'll
they'll look at the matchup or the tide that they
like and they'll take that and they'll start parlaying it
or teasing it with the college basketball. And the sign
that they are loving so far today is they are
tying in. Let me see team Number one is oh Grizzlies,
the Grizzlies. I don't know why, but its home dogs.
They love the Grizzlies. They love the Spurs at home
minus six. They're teasing the Spurs down to win the game,
I guess, and the Celtics as road dogs against the Thunder.
Now that might change between now and tip off. Usually
the Thunder get money, So that one threw me a
little bit. But definitely the Spurs are that team that's
being tied into a ton of college basketball already already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see, you got Jason Tatum and Derek Wider
questionable for Boston. This would make sense if you want
to give Tatum arrest going up against the Thunder. Looks
like the Spurs, who many almost questionable. But Denver, I
believe Denver's on back. Yeah, Denver's on a back to back.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing that's why the Spurs are are taking money.
And yeah, Memphis, it doesn't surprise me. They're they're a
tanking team, but they're playing another tanking team, uh in Dallas.
Speaker 4: So uh, it makes sense if you're going well, two
teams are taking.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll just take the home dogs and the
points with that one. So any interesting line movements in UFC,
I see Jillian Robertson is taking a bunch of money?
Speaker 3: Were there?
Speaker 2: So I did go ahead?
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you about the Drew Dover Michael Johnson situation.
Uh last week were you able to get did you
get down on Drew Dover? It's an auto it's an
auto play for me. Uh, I tell all my guys
if there's a one dollar move after weigh ins, this
is an automatic big fire. And it just happened again.
Did you did you see the rumors.
Speaker 6: The kidnapping of Michael Johnson's kids?
Speaker 3: Yet I'm no more of that.
Speaker 6: I'm surprised there's not more of that, or maybe there
is a we just I don't pay attention to it.
But you would think with social media you could really
manipulate the market, Like personally, if I don't have a
Twitter right now, but had I not been hacked, like
I think I could go on Twitter and actually manipulate
a line if I wanted to, Like if I just
throw out there that I have inside information on an
injury rest, the short people are gonna believe it. Like,
I'm pretty sure we could move the market a little bit,
so I'm surprised that doesn't happen a lot more. But
I guess you know, you can only cry wolf so
many times, so I don't think you could get away
with it a lot. But I'm sure there's accounts out
there that could easily manipulate the market with a tweet
here or there. Let you know some information that for sure.
Speaker 1: Ariel Hawanee absolutely one tweet that. So Dan, what happened
was we had this huge line movement on a fighter.
This I don't know if it's sure or not. I
don't want to make light of a situation where they're like, oh, yeah,
his nephew got kidnapped by this gang, and the gang said,
Michael Johnson, you got to go down in round two
and he gets knocked out in round two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, now I will. We're gonna if you're gonna
fix a fight.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna fix a fight, I don't know if
I want to stick my chin out there and get
my head blown off. But uh, when you see these
live moves, what do you always say, Yanni, follow the money,
that's it.
Speaker 2: It tells you that.
Speaker 6: Everything, like even with information, when someone tells me, oh,
did you hear about this. I don't even reach out
to someone else to confirm. I just look at the
betting line, Like, if it's not factored into the betting line,
it's probably not true. Like, if you're gonna tell me
about a star player being injured, it's gonna be shown.
It's gonna show up in the market. Like I'm pretty
sure my uber driver wasn't the first to get the information.
I'm positive my barista wasn't the first to get the
information either, So I'm pretty sure someone in the betting
market probably got it before either of those two sources.
So if they're giving you that kind of info, I
would check the betting line before believe in it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to push back slightly. I used to work
in a hotel on overnight rooms.
Speaker 6: Oh that's different story, bro, That's like telling me you
work at a strip club in Vegas.
Speaker 5: That's a different story.
Speaker 2: We now information, animal of information, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, UF see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like Julian Robertson's been the big line
move you've seen anything in UFC right now.
Speaker 4: We'll go into more detail tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Tomorrow for sure, But here's what's sticking out because I
talked about it, and I'll sound like a broken record.
Speaker 1: The favorites keep winning.
Speaker 6: Even last week it wasn't a ton of favors, but
eight out of twelve favorites got the money. So that's
sixty seven percent, which is kind of like average on
parts about sixty five percent. But we're still close to
that eighty percent favorites. So what you're seeing is books
are bringing out favors that are like minus two hundred,
but they're bringing them out it like minus two fifty
instead and seeing what the market's going to do and
letting recreational better bet them up to like that minus
three hundred range. Now what's going to be interesting is
are the sharp betters going to go in and take
the dogs. Guys like myself gonna say, wait, there's a
lot of value on these plus two fifties plus two
sixty dogs. Granted on paper, they don't look great, but
I know I'm getting the best of it. It'll be
interesting to see if because again we get punched in
the face for doing that a lot, but if you
do it long term, you're gonna do well. Because we
know historically the market's around sixty five percent. That's what
favorites cover in MMA, So anytime you're you're having an outlier,
you expect to regress and progress towards the mean. It's
not gonna happen overnight, but it is gonna happen when
December thirty first rolls around. Here's what I can promise you.
Favorites will not be seventy eight percent in the UFC.
That's not gonna happen. So for us to not get there,
we're gonna need some dogs between now and December thirty first.
They are gonna come Saturday, probably not, but I would
not be. I need more conviction to bet favorites over
these next few weeks.
Speaker 2: Than I do dogs.
Speaker 6: I'd feel a lot more comfortable on a live dog
this weekend then unloading on somebody's big favorites. Again, not
that I'm not gonna be on favorites, but you're gonna
have to have some strong conviction. At least I will
to bet somebody's you know, minus two hundred in higher chalk.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, what do you have about for everybody on Thursday?
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Best of luck Andy, best of luck Dan, and thanks
again for having me brother.
Speaker 4: Thanks Johannie, appreciate you man. Have a great Thursday.
Speaker 1: Let's Uh, let's bring in Joe, because Joe's breaking down
a game that literally starts here in a couple of minutes. Joe,
nothing like Joe, Nothing like assigning you a game that
starts at twelve thirty when you come on at twelve
twenty two.
Speaker 7: Well, it's good for the live peepes, I mean, everybody
joining us live right now, hurry up, because this Iowa
State and Texas Tech game, a rematch of game that
we just saw recently here between these two teams, should
be a good one.
Speaker 3: Overnight we saw what we saw.
Speaker 7: Iowa State four and a half point favorites, nothing but
Texas nothing but Iowa State.
Speaker 3: Rather money.
Speaker 7: Since then, we're sitting at six and a half right now,
the total still hovering around the one forty three and
a half mark. And the thing that you got to
remember about the first time that these two teams played,
don't forget Topping had just gone down for Texas Tech.
But Iowa State was coming home from a game against
Utah in the altitude and they came home and took
on Texas Tech. And I remember this because a lot
of people were going out of you know, they lost
Top and there's no way Texas Tech is going to
go to Hilton and do Yeah, Well, they went to
Hilton and they didn't miss a shot, which is crazy.
In fact, fourteen of twenty six from three is what
happened in that game with Texas Tech. So the problem is,
I'm not sure they're gonna go fourteen of twenty six
from three again. Iowa State clearly didn't take Arizona State
lightly yesterday because that game was over in the first
five minutes.
Speaker 3: You got a like time.
Speaker 7: I mean, Texas Tech, I give them all the credit
of the world, but when you lose a guy like JT. Toppin,
it's not this time of year is gonna be very
difficult for them, especially against an Iowa State team that
is foaming at the mouth right now. I mean, who
goes to Hilton and wins a game and goes fourteen
of twenty six from three point range. Not many teams,
but they gave Christian Anderson all sorts.
Speaker 3: Of fits in that game.
Speaker 7: But again, fourteen to twenty six will erase a lot
of the eras and issues they might have had. I
don't see that happening again. I agree with the market
move towards Iowa State. I think they handle business. I
think they handle it rather easily. In fact, Texas Tech
is gonna have their hands full here today. They're gonna
be playing from behind, and I don't think they're going
fourteen of twenty six from three again in this one. Andy,
So yeah, give me Iowa State. That looks like a
very well oiled machine right about now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Andy, you mentioned like nothing like scheduling the
games here for twelve thirty. That's also college basketball, Like Joe,
that's like the biggest game of the day here today
and they're like middle of the day, but that's what
that's why we go at noon. So so at least
some thoughts numbered on Iowa State. Andy, you can tell
them about what we've been keeping an eye on here
and get Joe's thoughts.
Speaker 4: So ooh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So Marco came on last week and talked about this
crazy court that they built for the Big twelve the women,
and he was saying the court's weird and so take
some under. So we've been tracking this with three in
the Kansas State game there well, so it was it
was three and one yesterday to the under. It was
one and three the day before. We're right around fifty percent.
So we're just updating the so Iowa State Textex sixty
seven and a half, use of Arizona seventy six and
a happy way, Hou Houston sixty and a half, TCU
Kansas sixty six and a half. It's just something we've
kind of been monitoring. Can't say it's worked out great
one way or the other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's been exactly five hundred and Andy.
One thing that I will say, I mean, Joe points
out there, Yeah, I hope you didn't and out in
that that Kansas game.
Speaker 3: Because Kansas State was yeah yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was anything that could fall could fall. But
I almost feel like too Andy, uh, you know, the
time to maybe jump in if you were picking your
sponsors because each game it's another time that they're playing
on this insane ai ass court. So each game there's
more and more familiarity with it. So truth you know,
that's that's so tread lightly folks. I think that the
cat is out of the bag, so to speak.
Speaker 3: And they hate it.
Speaker 7: I mean, the players are coming out and it's dumbest ship.
I mean, the players have to go out there with
a bottle of windecks. Is what they have to do
each and ever. They're slipping all over the damn place.
They're like there's nothing, you know. Then the lights come on,
they switch the screens and the players are like what
you know. One guy almost passed out. He got dizzy.
He thought he was tripping balls, Like what is going like,
what is happening right now?
Speaker 3: Big twelve.
Speaker 7: But you know what, they'll come out and be like, listen,
we did a study. It Actually it helps these uh,
these supposed student athletes learn a little better.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we're just gonna.
Speaker 7: Keep raking in the ad dollars here that we're gonna
be getting from this.
Speaker 2: Unbelieve it'll be they'll put some bs that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually positive for Oh, it's a positive spin
without a doubt. Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 2: It never fails.
Speaker 5: It never fails, man.
Speaker 4: So it's like, go ahead.
Speaker 1: It's like the NFL like like being like, you know,
we really care about player safety. More Thursday games, more
international games. Oh, by the way, we're going to talk
about playing on Wednesday now, more kickoff.
Speaker 7: Eve because that's what we want. Yeah, more mediocre crappy football.
That's yeah, nobody asked for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody nobody Now you can't even use it a
contest because the midweek and it completely screws up your
five card and your five big cards.
Speaker 7: So you couldn't let the NBA just have their Christmas. Nope,
you had to You had to tread all over that.
And oh, by the way, three of the worst goddamn
games that we had all year last year landed on Christmas.
So yeah, thanks appreciate, Hary.
Speaker 2: Very freaking Christmas. Indeed, Well, Joe, we have two NBA
games here to get into with you, and you've been
on an insane NBA run thirteen and three in the
last sixteen, so I certainly want to get your thoughts
on what could be the preview of the NBA Finals
Boston Celtics Oklahoma City Thunder. That's where we'll kick it
off here.
Speaker 5: Man thoughts on this one, Joe.
Speaker 7: Yeah, By the way, I just want to mention I
think bam Outebayer was just fouled again.
Speaker 2: Ootn't worry your thoughts on I'm just saying I think
he's shooting another free throw right now.
Speaker 3: Listen, this is gonna be good.
Speaker 7: The good news for Oklahoma City is Chen Holgren is
off the injured list year so they'll likely have enough
year to go toe to toe with the Celtics. But
the Celtics, i mean White, Tatum, you know, still looks
like they're still questionable in this game. I don't know,
it's been a rough trip here for the Celtics right now.
I don't know how much they're gonna push in a
game that's a out of conference b.
Speaker 3: I don't know how desperate they are to actually try
to win this game.
Speaker 7: And the Oklahoma City Thunder at home have always been
they're a tough out and and it looks like they'll
have enough pieces back to.
Speaker 3: Make a go at this. But keep an eye on
the injury.
Speaker 7: Report with the Celtics right because if Tatum is gonna go,
if Pritchard is gonna go, he's been ill, he missed
the last game.
Speaker 3: White should be able to go.
Speaker 7: Hopefully Jalen Brown doesn't get throw out in the first
eight minutes with a double technical. That would be great
if he could stay on the court here.
Speaker 3: But call me.
Speaker 7: Crazy, this feels like if they show up and show out,
forget about the points this this feels a little bit light.
This number here because it could be rating threes. I
mean the Celtics have been doing it with defense. We
know they Oklahoma City Thunder are gonna bring the defense,
but my goodness, to sixteen.
Speaker 3: And a half is tough.
Speaker 7: I almost think maybe a team total under is probably
the better way to go in this game. And sorry
Celtics fans, I'm not buying it here. I don't think
Tatum well, I don't think they all go.
Speaker 3: I think you're.
Speaker 7: Gonna have maybe one, if not two of those guys
not on the court here tonight, at which point I
would look at a team total under for the Celtics.
Speaker 1: Joe, I agree completely. If you're the Celtics, this is
this is the game to sit a couple guys tatumslat yep,
why why? Why tempt fate here? But did you watch
that Celtics game when Jayalen Brown got thrown out? I
was watching that live. Did you happen to see it?
Speaker 3: Yes? I did?
Speaker 7: And then I watched them break in with Bam Autebayo
and the Miami Heat fowling with ninety seconds left just
to give him a couple extra pots, which is just
hilarious on so many levels. But yeah, it typically the
best part about that was Jayalen Brown getting thrown out
and five minutes later they're posting up an ex post
from him. Right, that's like, this is the kind of
crap I'm talking about the locker.
Speaker 3: Room like tweet. Yes.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the play.
Speaker 1: That he was upset about was such a know nothing
and he was in the wrong, like somebody like gently
put their hand on his hip and he throws himself into.
Speaker 4: The crowd yep and there was there was no foul.
Speaker 1: He loses his mind. I was like, of all the calls,
of all the calls, you're gonna die on your sword.
Speaker 4: That that's what It didn't make It didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: So no, uh, let's uh, let's talk about Dan's poor
seventy six ers.
Speaker 4: Dan, your team, Your.
Speaker 1: Team was so fun, Edgecombe, Maxie, even Embiid was kind
of fun. But now you got cheating Paul George, he's out,
Embiid is hurt again, Tyrese Maxie. They say they're going
to reevaluate in three weeks, which is what the playoffs. Yeah,
this team went from being fun on the court to
being in filling up an entire wing in Thomas Jefferson
Hospital there in Philly.
Speaker 3: So that's that's now now they.
Speaker 2: More They have more players in street clothes sitting on
the bench than they do in uniform.
Speaker 3: Dude, it sucks.
Speaker 2: It's just what I wanted to buy in Joe. This
is what they do to me. And now they now
you have the Now you have the Pistons laying fifteen
and a half.
Speaker 7: Good God, which isn't a great Listen, love Detroit, but
my good, they have not been great laying these kinds
of numbers. I mean, listen, they just came off a
four game losing streak because they got to take on
a you know, a rec league team there in the
Brooklyn Nets and dropped almost what one hundred and forty
points on them there, So they were able to at
least get.
Speaker 3: Out of their own way there and kind of get right.
Now they're home.
Speaker 7: Now you're taking on the seventy six ers. I don't
trust Detroit to win by this number against the Sixers
team that just dropped what about another one hundred and
forty points against Memphis. So and they didn't have anybody
in that game either. They are more than capable of
scoring here. Are they gonna win the seventy six ers?
Likely not, but one of the first bets that I
made this morning was it was two twenty and a half.
It's now to twenty one and a half, and I
agree with it. I think points are coming in this
game here. I don't for one minute believe that the
Pistons are gonna lay it all out there and make
sure that the seventy six ers can't get out of
their own way. If this is, in fact, they blowout
like the market says it's gonna be, then we're looking
at at least a buck twenty if not a buck
twenty five or more from the Detroit Pistons here, at
which point I am sure the seventy six ers can
get us enough points to be able to get this
thing up and over to total.
Speaker 1: I agree it's an insane number. Absolutely, it's an insane number.
Speaker 3: I'm not riding through it.
Speaker 7: This isn't like vintage Pistons, but they should. If they're
gonna blow out the Sixers, They're scoring a buck twenty
five in this game, make no mistake about it.
Speaker 4: All right, Bam out of Bayou.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you three numbers, which is the craziest
forty three field goals twenty two to three point attempts
forty three free throws, or the fact that he still
didn't have a double double.
Speaker 3: Part of it. That's my favorite party.
Speaker 1: My favorite part is that he didn't get a double
double with eighty three. Imagine if you took Bam half
a double doublecores for eighty three and you lose your
double double.
Speaker 8: I had to if you're already counting your money, like
you just compared the stat line to Kobe's line against
Toronto back in his eighty one points and.
Speaker 3: What Bam out of Baio did and it's just it's
like night.
Speaker 7: And he had more points in the first half than
he has had in his career in any full game,
like he had already.
Speaker 3: Gone over that.
Speaker 7: But here's the thing, guys, here's the thing. Okay, we're
pissed off at the wrong thing here. Bam Adebayo is
not the problem. The Miami heater not the problem. If
you are going to sit there and foul somebody and
put him on the line forty three times, I am
gonna take every one of those points I can. If
you're going to allow me to get away with the
kind of crap Miami was getting away with there, that's
on you.
Speaker 3: Washington Wizards.
Speaker 7: In what world would Charles Oakley or the or Lambby
or anybody they would You would have had to carry
dam out on a stretcher before they ever fouled him
forty three. To put him on the line and get
forty three foul shots, he would have he wouldn't have
been able to walk out of the arena if that
crap went on. But you know who allowed it to happen,
The Washington Wizards. So I'm not blaming Miami. If a
team is gonna give you that, you take it. It's
the NBA, it's the NBA, it's big boy basketball. But
the Washington Wizards are the problem here because the Washington
Wizards didn't give a crap one way or the other
and were more than complicit in allowing that to happen there.
You're the reason it happened, Wizards. It's not because of Miami.
The Washington Wizards had no pride and didn't care and
ounce that.
Speaker 3: They were getting embarrassed in Miami in that game.
Speaker 1: I agree, like, I know the Washington Wizards are tanking,
but isn't there a little.
Speaker 7: Like you allowed that kind of crap would never happen
in baseball.
Speaker 3: You know why because you get one hundred and one
mile an hour ball right into the head.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that would be you're up fourteen nothing and
you're taking pitches. Here's the fastball right into the chin.
Where was that with the Wizards? Like the Wizards allowed
that to go on?
Speaker 3: Why hate pants? Only take them what you're giving them.
Speaker 1: It is true, It is true.
Speaker 7: Charles being like, I'm just foul and put them on
the line forty three times getting it have broke your kneecaps.
Speaker 3: Man, that would like, no way would that have been allowed?
Speaker 1: Well, even even nowadays, try that against the thunder and
lou Dort, Try that against Dylan Brooks.
Speaker 3: Where is the pride? Like we're hating the wrong side here.
It ain't Miami. You should be laughing.
Speaker 7: It's the Wizards that were just like, dad, man, you
got it, no problem eighty three.
Speaker 3: We're fine with this.
Speaker 4: Oh the Wizards, God love them. Get the keeps on giving.
Speaker 1: So all right, Joe, what do you got going on?
It's Thursday, We've got a ton of college basketball, we
got NBA.
Speaker 4: I know you're lockloaded. What do you got for us?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And having said a text out to attend to lead
over Ioway staying, of course they are by.
Speaker 3: A way in Miami of Ohio.
Speaker 7: Okay, they're up ten with ten minutes ago Miami of
Ohio and U MASK going on right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, locked and loaded.
Speaker 7: Four percent College basketball four percent NBA ready to go
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Speaker 3: Go a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's some talk about Wilt, Wilt Chamberlain and
his thing. Also keep in mind Will was playing against
part time plumbers. Yes, say with Joel about BAB, but
Bam was going up against professional athletes. Wilt was going
up against guys that were electricians.
Speaker 4: And a good point that that's the exaggeration.
Speaker 2: There's no there's no footage. There's not and they had
cameras back then, folks, I've researched it. I just think
it's with the whole Wilt one hundred point game thing
is weird to me. It's put me in. It's not
like a flat Earth conspiracy theory, Andy, But this is
like my tepid take that I'm not really buying the
Wilt one hundred point game.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 1: So there you go the word hot take, Yeah, speak
of hot take. Let's bring in Steve. We got to
talk some college basketball. Oh yeah, appreciate you jumping in
kind of short notice here, Steve, your take on BAM
scoring points and Dan's take that he doesn't believe that
Wilt scored one hundred point.
Speaker 4: We don't have footage.
Speaker 2: I would play if if it wasn't copyrighted, I would
play the X Files music right here. No proof of
Will's one hundred point game. I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not buying it.
Speaker 5: Steve, So I got it in front of me.
Speaker 9: I was looking this up earlier that I love this
list because Devin Bookers it's seventy. That was always the
real outlier for me, But then Ebid's done it since,
and then Damian Lillard seventy one is the one, and
a lot of people don't know are on there as well,
and of course more recently at Doncik also did it,
which I'd forgotten about. But I always like to look
at the win lost because Chamberlain actually had seventy eight
in the game. They lost, David Thompson's seventy three, the
team lost, Devin Booker's game when he had seventy the
team lost. And I remember a game Kobe's finale. What
did he have like sixty something in his last game? Ever,
I think they lost that game as well, the Lakers,
if I'm not mistaken. So it's very interesting to me
as a coach that you know these guys go off.
They don't necessarily the teams don't necessarily play well because
something's wrong if one guy has to do that much scoring. Yeah,
the Chamberlain one would love to have seen that. Don't
forget they changed rules because of him. Goaltending I think
no dunking three second violation. They changed the size of
the lane, if I'm not mistaken, all of those changes
were made because of one player, which is why he's
the most dominant basketball player. Ever, however, you know was
man against boys back then. However, that game the other
day was a little fishy as well. I almost think
the officials maybe had some bam adabayou props to the
over except for that double double prop.
Speaker 2: As you guys mentioned, I have proof, guys, I have
one hundred point game.
Speaker 3: I also had one hundred point game.
Speaker 2: Here's my proof here.
Speaker 9: Did you ever see the picture he was on the
moon the next day with the astronauts.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: I showed you my proof, and I also had one
hundred point game in the NBA.
Speaker 1: I agree with Clay top Klay Thompson's quarter where I
think he had thirty something points of a quarter.
Speaker 4: That was that's the craziest.
Speaker 1: That was the single craziest scoring thing I've ever seen.
Like watching it. Obviously we couldn't watch Wilt, but I
thought that was more impressive than Bam putting up an
eighty on the Washington Wizards. So all right, Steve, let's
talk a couple of college basketball games.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 1: We get TCU Kansas, we got Clemson versus North Carolina.
I'm just gonna let you have the floor break down
both of these games and tell us what you have
up at wager talk.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll start with the ACC game. We got two
nine to thirty Eastern national TV games in college hoops tonight.
First one is on ESPN and the ACC Tournament between
North Carolina and Clemson. We have some uncertainty in this game.
One of the best players for Clemson might not go tonight,
junior six foot ten junior Carter Welling, who hurt his
knee last night in an easy win against Wake Forest. Now,
the final was seventy one sixty two, but Clemson was
up by thirty, so I'm sorry, by twenty in the
second half of that game fifty two to thirty two,
and they really cruised. They had multiple guys played double
digit minutes, So while they are coming in unrested, I
don't think it'll be much of a factor in North
Carolina had to buy coming off the loss against Duke,
of course in their regular season finale, should have them
extra focused on the surface. I normally would like the
match up here for Clemson because they do have the
game under their belt. Sometimes that momentum carries, and they
also play extremely slow how court basketball, whereas Carolina likes
to play faster. But the uncertainty with Carter Welling not
playing tonight and just looking at his recent games, he's
been a fairly important player. He gets about fifteen to
twenty minutes a game does add some uncertainty there. I
think if you're going to look at Clemson in this one,
you look at them in the first half. We do
see teams with the extended layoffs sometimes coming a little
bit flat. Also think Clemson's going to slow this game
down early, which will give them the edge in the
first half as well, and could cass Carolina a little
off guard. And once again, Clemson had a lot of
guys played minutes last night, but it was spread out.
So I do like Clemson early in this game. If
you're looking at the side that's around that pick them
to plus one range in the first half line. We've
also seen some money though, coming in the under in
this game, and I agree with that move because here
again I think Clemson will look to slow things down
and that could frustrate North Carolina. So if you lean
Clemson plus the one in the game or plus one
first half, I think you also want to take a
look at the under. It open one forty one, it's
now down to one thirty nine, even one thirty eight
and a half at some of the Sharper books. I
like the under one thirty eight and a half one
thirty nine in this game tonight between North Carolina and
Clemson at nine to thirty eastern on ESPN. All Right,
your other games a little bit cleaner, not a lot
of injuries in this Big twelve matchup at non thirty eastern,
this one on ESPN. Two the deuce TCU and Kansas,
And by the way, the Carolina games in Charlotte. This
Kansas game is in Kansas City, Missouri, so both teams
will have a slight home crowdedge, to say the least.
This one pits the horn Frogs coming off their win
against Oklahoma State jovernire is alma mater Oklahoma State ninety
five eighty eight yesterday. Nothing misleading about that. It was
a fast, high scoring game. Both offenses thrived. The TCU defense, though,
was not very good, and that'll be a problem here
against a much better Kansas team that also comes in
off the buy and an easy win last Saturday, and
their home finale against rival Kansas State beat them by
nineteen in that game. These two squads faced off earlier
this season. It was a home game for Kansas and
they barely won one hundred and four to one hundred
in overtime in that one. And that's a game in
which Kansas actually trailed a good amount of the game.
TCU actually I'll played them, but came up a little
short in overtime. And yes, obviously overtime got the game
over the two hundred point range. But the pace of
play was extremely fast in that one, and I think
we could see a similar situation here again tonight. As
I mentioned earlier, teams that played the day before often
have momentum coming in here. So if you're going to
look at TCU, you might want to take a look
at them on the first half line. The full game
line right now is about five and a half to six.
First half line is around three three and a half,
so it's actually a little bit more than half the
game line, which I disagree with because I think TCU
has more of an edge early in this game with
the momentum situation. So I like the horn Froggs plus
the three three and a half first half if you're
looking that way. And as I mentioned, the other game
this season was extremely fast paced, high scoring even without
the overtime. I think the over one forty two and
a half one forty three makes some sense, and the
money moves agree here.
Speaker 5: In this one.
Speaker 9: It opened one forty two and it's up to one
forty three and a half in most situations. I agree
with that move to the over. I think this game
could have a lot of points. Tonight a nine to
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Speaker 2: And Steve also is getting you that top twenty five
video on a weekly basis. Here, folks in college basketball's
coming to a close. In Steve, you're about to be
damn busy because when March maddeness comes. You threw down
the gauntlet last year and you were like, you know what,
you people want games, I'll give you all the games.
Are you challenging yourself again this year to be breaking
down all these games for these folks?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I did it last year, and I don't know if
I did it the year before. I think I might have.
Now this might be the third straight year. I know
I did the NBA every playoff game for at least
two straight years, so this would be the third year
for that. It all runs together, guys. You know, someone's like,
when not fade the public? I was like a couple
of years ago, and I was like, it was like
five years ago. And then yeah, and Andy and I
were doing the NASCAR Show a couple years ago. That
was five years ago, six sixty. See even now I
got it wrong. It was six years ago. Was the
summer of twenty twenty. Yeah, I'm gonna do every NCAA
tournament game. I actually missed one last year, guys, I
was doing a Friday video and I missed the game
from the playing round where you didn't know the matchup
dare you and I REROLLI I think it was Texas
and somebody, and I remember later I was like, I
don't remember talking about the Texas game. I think I
only did fifteen instead of sixteen. So yeah, mistakes happened.
By the way, Dan h can't do the Top twenty
five this Saturday because we literally don't know the matchups
until like midnight Friday night, so that probably won't be up,
although I'll see I maybe I'll do a quick standalone.
If you guys you know are around, you can throw
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Speaker 2: Love it. Steve couldn't have said it better myself at
Steve Merrill at Steve Meryl's where can ball on Twitter,
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Around the World coming up. But right now, the man,
the myth, elegend, the Bianca.
Speaker 3: That's right, Karm.
Speaker 2: We've been seeing it, or you, I guess should say,
has been seeing it lovely here on the ice. Sure, okay,
you drop one, Karm, but the run that you're on, dude,
tell the folks about it.
Speaker 3: I had to bring it up.
Speaker 4: I had to bring it up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, listen, I guess, And thank you for
putting Steve Merrill after Joe instead of me, because man,
Joe brings the energy. Man that guy should be.
Speaker 3: I got your back.
Speaker 5: The guy's unbelievable. But uh, listen, it's been a great
run in NHL thirteen to two and one. I think
I channeled Dan. I channeled the Canada's silver medal medal
game until and I'm coming up to.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's well done.
Speaker 5: So I want to talk a couple of games. Normally,
I want to talk about the games that are you
can make cases for both sides with you know, four
really good teams and we got The first one we're
going to talk about is the Edmonton and Dallas game.
This games in Dallas. Dallas is playing some phenomenal hockey
at the moment. Seven to one their last eight, You
got it. I think you need to take it with
a grain of salt. You know that the win streak,
they are a very good team. They are playing extremely well.
But you look at them and only one of those
one of those wins came against a playoff team, and
that was the Vegas Golden Knights were struggling right and
out the moment pretty much every other game the other six,
the other six wins have come against teams that are
in the bottom half of each conference, and teams are
in the bottom five in each conferences as well too.
The Oilers, listen, goaltending is always going to be an
issue with them. But a move at the trade deadline
to get Connor Murphy, who helps out that second line
of defense for them, and they've been playing well. They
went into Colorado and beat and beat the Avalanche there
four to three. You know, you look at them, winners
of three of the last four wins over Colorado, Vegas
and Ottawa. Ottawa is one of the hottest teams in
the NHL going into last night, and which of course
they lost the Montreal and the lost came against Carolina.
So they're playing some very good teams. They're playing well,
and these are just two teams that know each other well.
Last year, Dallas beat the Oilers two to one in
the series season series, but the Edmonton Oilers not come
out in the playoffs four games, four games to one.
It's sort of mimicking that. This season, Dallas is one
of the first two games. This is the final game,
the final meeting between these two teams, and that last
outing was in November where they went into Edmonton and
completely embarrassed them, scoring eight goals in that one. So
the others aren't going to forget about that one as
well too. I think the others are a live dog.
Year now plus one oh six you won, plus one
oh five, plus one o sixty wonder well, it's not
really a dog, it is in this situation with these
two teams, I'm taking the plus money here. I think
the better side in this one, the better upside is
likely the Edmonton Oiters with some improved defensive play.
Speaker 4: Uh karm.
Speaker 1: My understanding is what what what is your streak? Thirteen
and one in then thirteen two and one, thirteen two
and one, eight run It's not bad, it's not bad.
Speaker 4: Did you lose one last night?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 4: Yes, I did the Washington on one streak.
Speaker 5: Have you ever seen the announcers? Have you ever seen
the announcers? Jinx, this is and it's not you, guys,
it is I'm watching the game. At the end of
the first period, they put up a stat. Washington's up
one nothing against Philadelphia. They put a stat the Washington
Capitals are nineteen one in one when leading out to
one period, and then they done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was done.
Speaker 5: The second I'm happy to be number two on that
list of losses that they suffered this season.
Speaker 4: So that's congratulations, that's a. That's a that's an awesome,
awesome streak here.
Speaker 1: So do you follow the World Baseball Classic? Do you
know anything about this Italian listen?
Speaker 5: It is it is, it's I was cheering for I
was cheering for the Italians yesterday because it gets it
gets the USA into it, and like every single player
on the Italian team is living in in the US,
so it's it's it's funny in the sense the argument
is always and Dan, you guys, you know, the argument
is always I have hockey related is like, well, the
Stanley Cup hasn't been to Canada since like nineteen ninety three.
The USA owns the thing. Yeah, but the fifty percent
of the roster living Canada full time. There are Canadians
play on US teams, and now these are Americans playing
on uh. I think the funniest thing is I saw
a tweet that said, so tonight we're watching the American
Italians taking on the American Mexicans to see if the
USA American Americans can advance, and it's like the USA
team I think I was more shocked by the fact
that prior to the game against can against Italy that
the USA manager did not know the rules of the
World Baseball.
Speaker 1: Classic details details, and.
Speaker 5: And and started a less instellar team. But the USA
is going to go on a run, you know what's
going to happen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, what else is going on in the
in the n HL tonight we got a pretty good.
Speaker 5: And Vegas So anyone who has watched pucked, I'm especially
in the last two weeks I've been telling people that
I felt Vegas golden Knights were going to miss the playoffs.
At the time I said that, people thought I might
have been drinking because they had a ninety nine percent
chance of making the playoffs. They were plus twenty two
hundred to miss the playoffs, and I said that is
a great price. Because they did some schedule forecasting on them.
They proceeded to lose I think six of seven games
they dropped the plus fifteen hundred. I mentioned it again
at plus fifteen hundred, it had value on them to
miss the playoffs. They are now plus seven to fifty
to miss the playoffs. So that price, if you got
at twenty two hundred or plus fifteen hundred, you're looking good.
And they still have a tough schedule.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: They return home off a brutal road trip in which
their only win was a late comeback, and then win
in overtime against the Detroit Red Wings. But this is
a team that is in six in their last seven games.
One of those losses came to this Pittsburgh team in Pittsburgh,
losing five to nothing in that game. You look at
the Penguins, obviously Uganny Malcolm suspended five game suspension, so
he's not in the lineup Sidney Crosby was injured in
the Olympics. He's not in the lineup, but Sydney wasn't
in the lineup when they beat him five to nothing
in that game. The Penguins had a road trip in
which it was a against West Coast teams, and this
was just before the Olympic break. They went to Seattle,
then they played the Edmonton Oders, Calgary and Vancouver and
they swept that road trip or winning four nothing. Are
they a live dog here? Absolutely? Plus one twenty nine here.
Even though Vegas holds a lifetime record of five and
two it on home ice against this Pittsburgh team, Vegas
just isn't playing well right now. They're not scoring goals.
You have Mark Stone out of the lineup, and it's
a big miss for them because they're scoring has dropped
off with him missing. One other stat I want to
look at is the fact that Pittsburgh's goalie like tonight,
is likely going to be Archer she Lobs. She Lobs
has been very good of late. He's six in two.
His last eight games on the road, he is six
two and three and his splits on the road are
much better. Two thirty three goals against average nine seventeen
save percentage, much better than Aiden Hills, who's going to
be the starting goalie likely for the Vegas Golden Knights night.
We got to stop making excuses for teams like Vegas.
This has been a season in the NHL like no other,
with a lot of teams Florida Panthers, troynt to make Police,
Vegas sorry, the New York Rangers, New Jersey teams that
you expected to be in a playoff position at this
point in the season missing the playoffs. So it's not
a big stretch to say that the Vegas is going
to miss the playoffs. By as far as this game goes,
I am taking the plus money here with the Pittsburgh Penguins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes all the sense in the world on
that one. So I'm just asking press, yes today, it's
so hard going into the playoffs, but who's your favorite
teams to win the whole thing this year?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 5: So I'm you know, Dan knows, I'm a long suffering
Buffalo fan. I'm a Buffalo Bills fan. We just can't
do anything. I'm a Buffalo Sabers fan, and for some reason,
the Sabers are one of the best teams in the
NHL and the best team since December of the ninth
I think the most points earned their first place in
the Atlantic Division. I didn't see that coming at all.
They're just playing some phenomenal hockey, playing very good defense.
The playoffs are a different beast, though, so we'll see
in a seven game series against a team like Carolina
or a team like the Tampa Bay Lightning whether they
can get it done. The Orders are a live dog
at ten to one. Make the playoffs, get in there,
and anytime you have a guy likely on Drycidle and
Connormick David, you always have a chance. They made it
to the Cup final the last two years, so obviously
the talent is there. Despite some goaltending issues, Colorado is
still the team once healthy. I think they're the best
team in the NHL. So I'm giving you two or
three of them there. I think out of the East,
it's likely going to be Tampa Bay when they finally
get their ducks in a row and play a lot better.
And it wouldn't surprise me if it is a Tampa
Bay Colorado Stanley Cup Final.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ross has been very excited about the Buffalo Sapers.
Speaker 5: There I am. I am going to the game on December. Sorry,
on March twenty seventh in Buffalo with they play the
Red Wings and Johnny Detroit and his lovely wife Paula
are making me drive in, so I picked up some tickets.
Four of us are going to go and watch the game,
eat some Buffalo wild Wings or some Buffalo Wings, some
beef on weck, and have a few beers and then
watch the Sabers roll the Red Wings ten nothing.
Speaker 4: Ten nothing, ten nothing. All right?
Speaker 5: If the Savers beat them ten nothing, there's probably gonna
be a new host on puck Time, Andy Lang and
Andrew mckinnis. Car Miner has been tossed to sports Memo
or something.
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Speaker 4: Beauty. Beauty, thank you, Carmine.
Speaker 5: Appreciate that a lot car Thanks for having guys.
Speaker 4: All right now.
Speaker 2: Now it'll be a one and oh streak starting tonight,
one and oh streak starting tonight.
Speaker 1: Baby, all right, we got a lot of free plays
to get to and such.
Speaker 3: Do we have a.
Speaker 1: WTFLFG yeah play, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Cher, I'll get that one for you, Andy, because this
one is one that didn't make the client card. This
is one that I'm betting like a one percent or on,
so I don't love it. It's uh, it's a play
that it makes sense to me here, Andy, I just
wish the number was a little bit lower. We're laying
two and a half with Ohio State tonight as they're
taking on Denver, so if this was one and a half,
this would be a bigger play for me. I think
that you're potentially seeing a situation here in which Ohio State,
who's coming off a really close loss to one of
the best teams in the nation in Notre Dame, just
lost eight to nine. They were playing Georgetown the game
before that they won ten to nine. This is a
team in Ohio State that finally just wants a comfortable win.
And unfortunately for Denver, who has matched up really well
against this team over the past few seasons, they just
haven't been what you'd come to expect here from the
Denver Pioneers. Sure they're four and one, but when they
played against good competition, it just hasn't gone very well
for him. Lost thirteen to nine to Cornell Utah is
probably their nicest win. They were only able to get
an eight to seven win in that and then you
have wins over a bad Air Force team, bad Cleveland
State team. So just shapes up.
Speaker 3: Andy.
Speaker 2: If this was one and a half, it would be
a big time play for me, But lay the two
and a half. I think Ohio State's winning this thing
by three or more goals. It's a one percent bet
for me that I bet personally, Andy, but we do
have a premium lacrosse play that we like quite a bit.
That one's locked and loaded. It goes this seas evening.
It's it's in that Sarahcuse game. It's the only two
games that are on today, so that kind of tells
you what it is. We've had a great read on Sarahcuse.
I think it continues tonight.
Speaker 3: Andy.
Speaker 2: So the free play for you lay it with Ohio
State the premium play. We have a lacrosse special that
you can actually grab thirty days of all access for
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty llion bucks for the rest of the season
for lacrosse, no brainer. We've got a four percent lacrosse
play that Dan mentioned and I paired that with our
four percent darts play that is up for the Premier League.
So you got a couple four percent plays that go
off today, so we can get that locked in and
then I've decided. So Seth texted me, let me know
bet three sixty five has changed their opinion on the
golf play.
Speaker 4: They refunded all the best.
Speaker 2: Oh they refunded too, So now it's just there's one
spot putting that pressure put the blue book.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, make sure that that they're following suit. The
more people that contact him and say give me my
money back, the more pressure it's gonna put on them,
and they will probably eventually do the right thing with
more and more books refunding. Colin Morikawa bets, so, all right,
let's do some free plays here before we get out
of here. Let's go all around the world. This play
starts here in a little bit, probably half hour, so
Xander Schoffley on DraftKings over ten and a half pars.
A big storm just came through and kind of softened
the course up a little bit. But it's windy this afternoon.
They're gonna have to play some defensive golf. There's not
a lot of birdies to be had out.
Speaker 4: There with the wind.
Speaker 1: Greens are gonna be soft, so they're gonna be readable.
I don't see a lot of bogies. I don't see
a lot of birdies, So I like Shaffley. Look for
him to shoot. I don't know, two under, maybe three under.
But his strokes gained has been good. Stats across the
board have been solid, but this course is playing pretty tough.
I like him over Hiss Pars Dyson Daniels over twelve
and a half rebounds and assists. He's gone over in
five straight, getting a ton of potential assists and a
lot of rebound chances. So Dyson Daniels, it's a big number,
but I don't think it's big enough. He's had thirteen
plus and five straight plus money. Bruno da Silva over
Charles Johnson.
Speaker 4: Dan I just want to bet on fighters that are
on steroids.
Speaker 1: I just give me the guy that's on the juice
going up against the guy that just got knocked in
this great handicap.
Speaker 3: Bruno de Silva.
Speaker 4: Showed up and had so much backne it was startling.
In his last fight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Charles Johnson got knocked out in the first round
in January against a fighter that's not known as a
knockout artist, so chin is soft. Bruno d Silva can
hit hard, especially when he's on the juice. Give me
Bruno de Silva plus money over Charles Johnson. Don't be
surprised if you see a knockout in this one. So
that's gonna be. It's a general rule play fighters where
the line moves a dollar after weigh ins.
Speaker 4: Play guys that are obviously on steroids. Those are gonna
be your your big plays.
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna start a new mission, the
let It Ride mission after the debacle today with Morikawa.
I think we're gonna start one on Saturday. So I'll
go over that, uh, go over that one tomorrow, so
we'll we'll, I promise we'll get you guys taken care of.
So that was just a brutal, brutal start.
Speaker 3: To the day.
Speaker 1: So uh, but hey, this is the business that we choose,
and so all.
Speaker 4: Right, that's gonna do it for us.
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