Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to That's Not Mettal and we are
here this Friday for another edition of Hyperblast. We had
our big reviews bag last week when we tackled the
likes of New Neurosis, New Poison, the Wells, some crazy
stuff happening in the world of new heavy music. Today
we're back with our weekly news show. My name is
Parenhirsh with me to do. This is Sam Dignon and
following up on a crazy week last week, this is
another one of those weeks where every which way of
things you can imagine happening has kind of happened just today,
you know, on the Thursday, as we were recording, we
have had really good news, really awful news, and fucking
mental news, so unavoidably as much as any I can
remember doing. Really, this is gonna be a bit of
a tonal whiplash episode potentially, so bear with us as
we navigate this. We have got a big gig that
we were both at this week to talk about, and
I was gonna arrive to you know, some of the
shit stuff a little bit later, but then about like
forty five minutes before we started recording this, a third
piece of just the really shit.
Speaker 2: News just hit right on us.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't quite feel right to have that, I
don't know, hanging over the rest of the episode, and
I feel we've got to address that first. So we're
going to tackle this in a slightly unconventional order and
that we're going to start with some news, then we're
gonna chat about our weekend, and then we're gonna get
back to the news. But I think from there you
can tell where the tone of where we're beginning is
gonna be. Earlier in the week. First of all, if
we're just gonna you know, Ross the Boss, the guitarist
of classic era man O War, we are talking peak
the nineteen eighties man O War run that they made
their absolute legend of and you know, absolutely do not
get it twisted. Man of War in their peak eighties
run are one of the most I would say, even
subtly influential bands in the history of metal in that
I am guaranteed right now that there are many people
listening to me saying this who don't like Man of War,
don't listen to mana War, could never even imagine listening
to mana War. But they're one of those cases, a
bit like Kiss where even if you don't love them,
someone you love loves them. And the amount of music
that is out there right now that we are all
enjoying week upon week that would not be the same
if it wasn't for Roster Boss's contributions to that incredible
run of man o War records. If you have heard,
for example, our album Club we did on Battle Hymns
last year, you know that I really, truly, genuinely love
everything to do with that incredible run of man of
War records. Ross the Boss passed away earlier this week.
He was also a member of The Dictators. They like classic,
you know, mid seventies punk band. So when we're talking
about some of the you know, like really like legit
punk roots of where a band like Man of War
and the kind of working class head metal movement you know,
came out of we are talking like, you know, mid
seventies New York, the birthplace of punk is to where
Ross the Boss from Manuar was involved with and a
genuine you know this is coming off the back of
course Phil Campbell, you know, a week or two ago,
another of those genuine formative legend figures I think for
the worlds of heavy metal Sam you are. You know,
I won't necessarily go as far to call you a
Manor Warrior, but certainly in recent times we have enjoyed
some Man of War together and Ross the Boss Man
o War were definitely at their best when Ross the
Boss was in the band.
Speaker 2: Is how this is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that impression from the Manor albums I
now I'm now familiar with.
Speaker 2: He just one of the like properly legit.
Speaker 3: Heavy metal guitarists, the riffs, the solos, like he had
it all and again, like you were saying about like
the influence of Man of War. I found out about
this when Miller dedicated a song to Ross the Boss.
Oh really on Friday, But I kind of didn't get
the context of that, and then I was like fuck it.
Kind of there was a weird thing, but I was
like that that kind of tells you when like creating,
you know, legendary fresh band, they're like they're there patriots
a matter of war. His influence is like heavy metal,
and as you say, him coming from punk scene, that
adds a fir legitimacy of that again every man route
and then kind of becoming a legend from that, it's
it's a cool story. And even outside of that roster,
Boss is just a name you saw around lot.
Speaker 2: He did alone.
Speaker 1: He was Ross the Boss.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, He's you're gonna you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna say that kind of guy, like that guy I
mean means business. Yeah, No, this was this was not
on that again, super close to.
Speaker 2: Me as we're gonna get onto one of the other.
It's unfortunate news, but a real kind of like a
real important loss.
Speaker 3: And even I on the way back, I spun about
him because I was like, that guy is legit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sad that I never saw Ross the Boss
playing live, because he played Bloodstock a few years ago.
But it's one of the years that I wasn't there.
But as you said, he was, you know, around and
playing those those incredible songs that he had such an
amazing part of. So I think it's only appropriate in
this case to give the most eternal of hailes to
Ross the motherfucking Boss from The Mighty Man of War.
Fast forward to today and we got the very sad
news that James Lola, aka the synth wave artist Ghost
has passed away. And this is just a real you know,
out of the Blue not a piece of news that
we were expecting. But Ghost amongst the you know, the
synth wave, you know crop of artists who really started
gaining traction in kind of the you know, the early
mid twenty tens.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Ghost was a you know, a favorite of mine. They
were one of the acts in that world that I
would return to and I would spin, particularly around a
record like Possessor, I remember bringing onto the show. We
reviewed a handful of Ghost records over the years on
the show, and records like that one where in terms
of the you know, the kind of the crossover of
the synthwave thing into the metal scene, some of the
Ghost records are ones where like that actual musical crossover
was most intense and most felt. And I, you know,
as someone with a liking for the extreme, hearing flavors
like that coming through in something else I love, which
is you know, a kind of you know, dancy electronic
music in that in that vein really like, you know,
it gave me a kick out of all the things
that were coming out of that world. And I mean
he only played Damnation like a few months ago, so
you know this just really seems sudden, but yeah, really
fucking shit news about that ghost because one of the
certainly one of the leaders and the most talented artists
I would say in that like sub scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, one of like the really interesting kind of
like takes on that that symp wave thing, and you're right,
he felt just more adjacent to heavier music and more
extreme music. And was that aesthetically or even just like say,
like the sonics of it.
Speaker 2: And how he kind of went with the simple wave thing.
Speaker 3: He felt quite closely tied into where we come from,
which wagon he was when I was always like not
the biggest one, I like, but really dug everything I'd
listened to that, So this was again just felt really
out of the blue and was like, man, that's a
real underground kind of cool artist who was doing something
really interesting and maybe not the big sam and almost
like a bit of an unsung character in that kind
of synth way thing or because of the mind of
our nature.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a real shocking and tragic shame. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, the tributes have come out today from
the likes of you know, Perturbator or Health or Carpenter
Brute or whoever you know, all yeah, all that was
who will all have toured with him and known him
or whatever. I think he was absolutely an integral part
of you know, that that community. And then, like I
said right before, we've come here, if you you know,
if our voices feel a little bit shaken or whatever.
Speaking of fucking sudden news, Bo Luders, the guitarist of
Harm's Way, has also in recent years, I would say,
become very well known to people who aren't even harms
Way fans, who would never have even picked up a
Harm's Way record, through being one of the co hosts
of the hard Law podcast Hard Law Podcast. I'm sure
if you've listened to us, you probably know the Hard
Law Podcast. But they have for the past few years
become you know, the almost like the cultural voice, if
you like, like they are the documentarians, the you know,
the the the archivists of the hardcore scene, and you know,
as that is one of the most pivotal and prominent
scenes in our world right now, they have become so
you know, integral as part of kind of you know,
almost like the being on the battlements of that movement.
And the news breaking literally just now that Bo from
from Harmsway and Hard Law has also left us is
so fucking shit. I can barely begin to touch on
on how that feels. Because Harm's Way the band one
of my favorites in the modern, you know, contemporary hardcore scene.
I've always had time for Harm's Way, particularly, like you know,
their run of records of like Isolation, Rust, Post Human
all just fuck so brutal and crushing and like exactly
what I want in that kind of brand of you know,
like super heavy, industrial, lith hardcore, brilliant live like I
mean Bo in particular one of my favorite like standout
sort of live staate prejudices in like you know, the
recent modern hardcore scene. Just like the way he would
stomp around and like lift the guitar up and all
that kind of thing, like he was a conduit for that.
Just like again, absolutely just brawn energy coming out of
those riffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way he played is like is that thing
where you watch him playing, look at that actually trying
and like break their instrument. They're playing it that hard,
and he had that energy Like every time I've seen
Harms you you've got like a magnetic frum manber Boguem
mining his part of the stage as well and just
being just as much Ben Again, I love those Harmsware Records,
Like this is the one of the news that has
like hit me the hardest, just you know, coming from
hardcore and and like hard as a podcast, it's become
the kind of like like I said, it's been all
about uplifting hardcore and kind of like championing the best bands,
the best music. Like they they they're at every festival,
they are pushing stuff and they're just trying to spread
positive through genre and kind of just a love for
it through all different ears of it. But it was
such a like key part that he made. They made
hardcore a lot more fun in recent years and kind
of brought a sense of like seriously in the appreciation
of it, but levity in the enjoyment of it. And
this was just a real like this has the news
just completely like hit hard out of nowhere. And yeah,
like like say the members of Harm's Way like hard
or everyone like close to it. This is going to
be such a loss to the hardcore scene and like
one of the sort of the key voices in making
hardcore bigger and better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because for exactly those reasons you're saying, like I said,
I've loved Harm's Way for quite a while now and
I will continue to you know, hold those records that
we've mentioned in high esteem when it comes to you know,
their generation of hardcore. But I think Hard Law, you know,
taking off the way it did where I mean, like
I said, if anyone listened to us has not ever
listened to a hard or episode, I'd be really surprised
at this point because unless you obviously don't come from
you know, that kind of side of the music. But
they were, you know, have been so as we say,
integral to I mean, like you know, on my own
personal you know, standing on it. Like hardcore is a
genre that I love and enjoy. I wouldn't describe it
as my home base, like where my feet are planted.
And I have been quite vocal over the past couple
of years certainly that there are things about the hardcore
scene and attitudes or whatever and tendencies that kind of
annoy me and you know, in some ways make me
almost want to, like, you know, distance myself from the
you know, the stuff that's going on there. Something like
the hard Law podcast and the way they spoke about
it and the band that they'll be bringing to the table,
and that kind of thing is something that was like
a counteracting force to those thoughts, you know, keeping me
absolutely you know, interested and plugged in, and because as
you say, it felt fun and friendly and just like
you know, they celebrate things, they're enthusiastic about things in
the way that we try to be. And obviously Bo,
you know, week on week, along with Colin as the
two faces of it, being such an integral part of that.
I think. You know, obviously, if you are a regular
you know, hard law listener in the way that you
know many of you will probably listen to Week on
week every podcast, right, obviously we might might be there
amongst them, but you get to know, and you become
fond of the voices, and you become fond of the characters.
You get to know people's tastes and that kind of thing,
even if you've never spoken to or met them, because
you know, I never spoke to or met Bo at
the two Hard Law guys, but he was a voice
and a character who I really enjoyed. And it's unavoidable
not feeling some sense of like actual personal loss when
someone that you engage with on that level week upon
week is just so fucking cruelly you know, taken away
like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so many just moments what he just seemed
like the sort guy like you just sim of the
course guy hanging around with Like there was the Halloween
hard episode from when Danzig He's Dragon.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's that's when you know this guy
just fucking rocks.
Speaker 3: But you can watch any of their like interviews they
do with band members, bracket specials, that anything like that.
They are so knowledgeable, like they're an encyclopedia of hardcore history.
And then they're getting like bams from all kinds of
like not just hardcore, from metal, from punk and kind
of just bring them onto these amazing interviews like the
Davy Havoc one from last year is incredible, that Jeremy
Balm won from two sche more recently, like is like
true special And that's when they just were like lifting
up and kind of like telling these stories and it
was all about like the music and the culture and
and it was the celebration of that and that I
said that just that that positive contribution. And again and
there's hogs that can be toxic. There's like I common Markle,
I love it. There is a toxic targle that that
in the same way it can be off putting, but
hardcore kind of like brush that to one side and
kind of like trying to make it working for everyone
and kind of celebrating, you know, recently celebrating that, like
younger fans are picking up Crowbar records and stuff like that,
Like they're all about just sort of spreading the love
for it.
Speaker 2: And it is just like this feel that one of
the team is like gone. Now. Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: It's hard to know what to say beyond that, certainly,
but you know everyone who all friends of bo bandmates, family,
you know, members of the hard Law team whatever, And
of course the same goes for you know, James from
Ghost and even you know, of course Ross the Boss
the Legend. Just one of those weeks seemingly where you know,
these these dominoes kept falling but fucking just such brutal,
shitty news that, like I said, I felt we need
to get to that up top really to you know,
say what's on our minds, I suppose, But yeah, just
absolutely eternal, massive respect to all those names that we've
mentioned there. As I said, the two of us, we
were going to come in here all guns blazing about
the fact that we had you know, both jointed. We
had been to what feels like one of the big
metal tours of the year in the Creator with Carcass,
Exodus and Nails. I mean speaking of another great you
know hard lore interview they did right, the tod Jones
weren't however, Yeah, fucking fucking great. You know, all these
names just always always around there doing great stuff. But
that that touring package came through the UK and you
know what it was announced like last year or whatever
it was we were talking about. It feels like there
are certain just big bills that come through that sit
in our mind and we remember as like particularly great
night outs, whether it be the you know, the Kajira
Code Orange car Bomb, the you know, the Trivium Code
Orange Power Trip, like these kind of hued proper package
like it's so great. Obviously it is great to have
opening bands who maybe you don't know, maybe you can
discover something, but there is something also special about walking
into a gig at six pm leaving it at eleven
pm and you haven't heard a single band who you
don't absolutely love. And certainly for me with these four bands,
that that was the case of that and this felt
the most like one of those bills in a while.
You went to Brixton Academy. I went to the Manchester Apollo.
I know that you also then had a little extra
treats at the end, which we'll get to at the end.
But the main big Creator Tour, particularly considering you know Creator,
we're talking you know, a big game about bringing a
bigger production and that kind of thing, and they have,
you know, over the years, certainly the last few years,
become a bigger and bigger deal and a bigger live draw.
This felt like one of the as said, the metal
events of the year this this night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you know that that package is like real
kind of likely the way like that's not you know,
just one big spot and then two monyment. This is
like free like properly no name sports, like two legendary
supports in their own right like that. That's that's how
bigger deal. This was like really sort of big big business.
So like I said, when you're turning up ultimate the
bricks and at like six pm and I'm like, nails
are about to come on, fucking nails like the hardest
band I'm gonna start this at six pm, that is
like that is ridiculous that that's a silly time and
then you know, I like the thing with this for
me as well is I've never seen Extra So or Carcass,
So this had that that extra kind of excitement of like.
Speaker 1: That's crazy that you've never seen Carcass because I see
them every.
Speaker 2: I'm not a particularly big Exters fan.
Speaker 3: I've listened to in their entirety two Extous albums, which
is the first one and the last one, and then
I've heard bits in pieces in between, but and they've
been at like blood Soort when I've been there and
I've just kind of watched something else, So like, I
like I'm a bit more casual in the Extras front
Carcass there is there's not an excuse I should have
seen Carcass, but this was like a real just something
and I've made good on that. Now we're by doubling up,
but yes, like yeah, so walking in and nails are
like ripping bricks are opening with suffering soul. The first
time you hear at like twenty past six on a
Friday evening, for me is suffering soul. That kind of
sets the tone for like it's just gonna be a
good night. This is gonna be a good night the
vibes are right now's a group of suffering soul. Oh
and now you've got lacking the inly ability to process empathy.
I'm having the time of my life right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really good to get to see Nails again,
comparatively quickly from the last time. You know, they played
with a Damnation before last, so about fifteen months or something.
At the last time we saw Nails, Obviously we raved
about fucking the big big room, you know, Nails Pyro
Show and all that. Seeing them in what felt like,
you know, a somewhat similarly at least Sar used you
know thing, It's like, am I just gonna is this
gonna be forever? How I see Nails now? Like, because
I know that you've had the smaller experience. Now I'm
just like, I am becoming weirdly, you know, used to
seeing Nails playing big venues and considering they are, you know,
ostensibly a power Violets or a grindcore band. They do
certainly with the more midpace songs, they fill the fucking space.
So you know, you mentioned lacking the ability to process empathy,
and like when they get to wide open Wound and
I don't know, if I could ever hear the intro
of that song and not have like a bit of
a chill, you know, run down my spine. But those
like the the fucking like roll over you slowly Nail songs, yeah,
sounding fucking huge, and so to strike endless resistance later
on as well, Todd continually seemingly having the fucking time
of his life.
Speaker 3: Like it's really endearing that Todd Jones seems to actually
just love being in Nails now. He seems to love
playing live, like and I know, obviously I never saw it,
but that that kind of element of danger was one
of the like the exciting things of Nails go around one,
but also it clearly was unsustainable. He's now kind of
like off on that stage, kind of be like metal
front man Todd Jones.
Speaker 2: Jeing the crowd up, being like, yeah, this is the
best crowd, come on, let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got the two fists in the air, the
classic Todd's stance. In Manchester, he did he was like,
who saw us here for Danne for Damnation festival and
he was like, we want to come back. If the
people who book Damnation are here, please book us again.
She was like, you know, also in dearI because he's
clearly had a good time. He did say that they're
coming back later in the.
Speaker 2: Year, so yeah, said that as well.
Speaker 1: So headline tour or something that'd be lovely. But yeah,
fucking brilliant nail set as you could imagine opening the thing.
Speaker 3: My only two of you never be one of us
into perfect perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The only thing I was surprised at is they didn't
play give Me the Painkiller, which I thought, not not
only as a single from you know your the latest record,
but when you're playing to a thrash metal crowd, you're
at a thrash show, why are you not doing like
the most thrashtastic speed metally song you have. I don't
know why that seemed to disappear, but otherwise, you know,
bring it back when you come back later in the year, certainly,
but otherwise, just fucking nails in it. Brilliant Exodus. Considering
you said you know your your casual enjoyer and you've
never seen them live, I've seen Exodus plenty of times.
The story here is that they've got Rob Dukes back
into the band, who have had three front men really
who have almost like tagged in and swapped out at
various points that even Paul Bayloff came back for a
tiny old period. But Rob Dukes was their front man
during the mid two thousands up to like the early
twenty tens, and now he's just rejoined the band. They're
just about of their new record, which I mentioned last
week it was on our review schedule, and just my
brief little take on the new record. I think it's
good fun. I think it is. You know, it's not
as like fully at it ravenous as even like the
mid two thousand stuff with Rob Dukes, like shuffle Headed
kill Machine is a fucking brilliant, really rippin' record. This
isn't as you know, fast and heavy and all that
as that is and every modern day exous album is
about ten to fifteen minutes too long for what it is.
But I think it's decent. They played I think it
was two songs from it, which was the opening track
three one one one and then another song called Goliath.
The Goliath song was the one point where they're momentum
of the set completely stalled because it's like the slow song. Yeah, yeah,
I think it's a decent track on record, really, but
like probably not the one to dump them, but otherwise
around that, Exodus, particularly if you've got them in a
forty five minutes a lot or whatever, are a wicked
greatest hits bands when it comes to They've got songs
from the mid two thousands that people are going to
go off for, like Death Anthetamine, which is from the
record I just mentioned fucking crazy song Blacklist as well,
which if you're in a metal crowd that knows the
words to Blacklist, is just really fun. And then they
also of course have the eighties classics to lean on from,
Bonded by Blood and like the the Circle Pit Anthem
in the Toxic Waltz. Right, So they are they They've
always said that Exodus are one of the thrash bands
who are continually just very fun to see live. And
even as someone who you know again kind of only
knows a bit of the material, really you have fun
with Exodus, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Were great fun.
Speaker 3: Deaf Amfetamine when they put out was like second like
that that got the crowd properly going like there was
definitely kind of like a lot of reverence Rexus.
Speaker 2: I did have my like I mentioned did You Earnier?
Speaker 3: But my funny mental was like, oh yeah, Gary Holt
from Slayer plays in Exodus and I was like slightly
wrong way around that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it was just a funny yeah.
Speaker 1: And Gary Gary Holt is one of those guitarists who
just his energy for playing guitar is infectious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he always looks fucking cool up on stage.
Speaker 3: Rob Dukes is this big burly dude kind of running
about shouting, having a good time. Like they had a
very infectious energy access that did kind of make this
really enjoyable.
Speaker 2: I do agree the the Glass track of the new album. Again,
I quite like the new album.
Speaker 3: I thought it like from modern fresh album from like
a legacy band, better than a lot of those sort
of things. Do not quite as good as like what
Creators turns off an now, but still of a good standard.
That song just because it's a slower song, it just
it stunted the momentum a little bit, but it didn't,
you know, derail the set by any means, and the
crowds not a lot of the cards still seem to
be fairly into it. But you know, just yeah, forty
five minute kind of like frash set of hits with
a sprinkling of new stuff.
Speaker 2: Perfect for sort of like your second on band on
this type of.
Speaker 1: Package exactly, and you know, if you're interested in again
sort of modern sounding exos like I say, shove, we
had a kill Machine. The first one was Rob Dukes
Rips Tempo of the Damned, the first one they kind
of came back Rips. They've got like actual hits from
the two thousands era to sprinkle in, so it's not
all weighted on the bonded by blood. But then of
course when they whip out Striker the Beast, right, it's
just it's perfect flash metal is what it's all about.
So yeah, a perfect as theid lead into the rest
of the event. Carcass. I have spoken about Carcass live
many times, so I am curious instead to throw to
you as your your first time seeing as a very
regular sight in these parts, but one of the you know,
most legendary essential extreme metal bands of all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Carcass were great.
Speaker 3: They go very much, I mean on on the two
shows of Sword the Bridge said were they only had
again like forty five fifty minutes. They were very locked
in and they're just ripping through these songs. But man,
what a sex a song. Is like heavy, but like
that technical or something like the melodic guitar bits and
carcas when they pull those out and the crowd are
like singing along some of the guitar lines, and she's.
Speaker 2: Like that, that's that's great.
Speaker 3: Do Like it was like they just look like they
should be in it, like four blokes and a dad
rock band on that stage. It is like a very
funny sort of thing, but they're like I had like
ridical backs when like the screens behind them sort of
showing like medical procedures yea, or it's very sort.
Speaker 1: Of They have a very particular If you've seen Carcass
enough time, you'll know what I mean. They own the
kind of medical green stage lighting, like that shade of
green that you will have seen. That's every Carcass show
they have specifically attuned their stage lighting to be hospital green.
I hope that that's a touch where I see that
color and the associated with seeing Carcass life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, I was like God, because they did
the exact same with the under one. I was like, yeah,
that they do it every show ever. Yeah, it's what
they do.
Speaker 3: It's in with like obviously like the feming on the
bad like I said, there'st of the screens they had
like showing the like bodies being cut off and all
that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: It's very much.
Speaker 3: Kind of like you're you're still getting a show from Carcass,
where like it felt like I was like, oh, yeah,
this is the main this isn't the headline is one
brings with like the crowd being so kind of like
hanging off of Carcass sort of the entire time, really
like getting into it and just having a great time.
Speaker 2: And like I said, like.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not as simple with all the attract there
was enoughing that set that I know I was like,
oh yeah, I know these ones and was having.
Speaker 2: A really fun time watching them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean they they lock in sets. So again, if
you've seen Carcass regularly, particularly if it is a support
slot that they only have a certain amount of songs
to do, it's they're on those bands where I can
kind of you know, I can tell and I can
know the running order of setless and that kind of thing.
But they lock in sets really interesting and that they
transition between songs and like one will stop and they
will seems yeah, but they'll do it between songs that
are completely different, feeling so like unfit for human consumption.
The opener, which was I think the one track they
played from Surgical Steel at the you know, the support slot,
and also like you know, me and my mato as
with just like at one point just started like turning
and singing the guitar solo of that song to each
other because it's Surgical Steel. We've been listening to that
for like thirteen years, you know, it's a classic. But
from that into Bury Dreams from Heartwork, which is a
totally different tempo, but the like you know, switch in
from one to another, they just do like that. The
weird thing about the show that I saw at Manchester
is Dan, who is Carcass's drummer since you know the
surg calls Steel Era, wasn't there for that one night
and I was like, oh, I wonder where Dan is.
And then I looked and he was there at the
show that you were at, and he was back for
the Underworld show. So for some reason, for one night only,
seemingly Dan couldn't make it and they had and they
had val Terry, who is the new drummer for Opeth,
was filling in for that and Jeff mentioned he was
like he's done this without rehearsals, like he's just turned
up for a day seemingly and fucking nailed a whole carcasset,
which was so brilliant, and you know Jeff having his
very dry humor as well. There was one point where
he was like holding his base up to the sky
and he was I think waiting for val Terry to
hit a certain queue and he waited like slightly too
long and he went, come on, you work with Akafelt now,
which is just like a great little little bit like he.
Speaker 3: Was ribbon on again Jo they had for the Underworld show.
They clearly got a good band and his stage pattern,
like again limited as it was, was very funny. He's
very funny in that dry humor there was there were
like a few bits he did was very much like
not bad for a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of Southerners and stuff like.
Speaker 3: That, but like he's very again just like bloke up
on stage having a bit of a laugh. But like
they sounded incredible and again Brixton support band sound can.
Speaker 2: Always be very iffy.
Speaker 3: For carcass it was like crystal clear, so like when
you're getting those hard work guitar melodies coming in like you.
Speaker 2: Get it all spot on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was surprised that there was no keep on Rotting
in the Free World in our set, because that's such
a carcass staple. But I believe, as I believe it,
it seems to have come back for the other show
that you saw. Creator then you know, big headline attraction
for this the in the new album you know, Crushers
of the World came out earlier this year. We reviewed
it and Creator have I know that this time they
obviously have the support in depth, the strength of such
a great bill behind them, but Creator having you know,
climbed up over the years from being a you know,
I don't want to say an awsort round thrashband because
they have always been legendary, but commercially they weren't always
punching on the level that they are now to now
seemingly reliably be being like, yeah, we are gonna go
We're gonna play Bricks and Academy, We're gonna play Vendus
like the Apollo in Manchester. We can headline festivals that
Bloodstock or whatever. And this set not only did they
bring you know, the attraction for that, but it also
was weighted rather heavily on you know, twenty first century material.
Let's talk about the stage sho a little bit first,
because again, this is what a lot has.
Speaker 2: Been made of.
Speaker 1: It was just a big old metal show in the
way that you expect from Creator. I think maybe some
people have slightly over est, you know, overstated the amount
of like Pyro for example. Like it wasn't like a
parkway drive for example. Right, there were set songs where
they would blastom fire off, but that's always very welcome
at a big evil metal show. They had a giant
like demon head behind them on you know, behind the
drum riser. The drum riser itself was like a big
demon head horn. Yeah, they had like big demon heads,
you know, this kind of creator a masket guy on
either side of the stage. I think there was like
sort of like severed head props hanging from like millers
might stand. So it's just it's all out, you know, visually,
just like this is the most metal thing that could
possibly happen, and a Creator set list is not going
to deviate from that, is it.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, this is this is like I say, this is
just like unashamedly metal, where you've got like to say,
the giant demon had back on that that kind of
looked like the mask from the movie Demons. It will
kind of give me that vie. I was like, I
was getting that to be. But like big horned demon
drum riser, two giant demon lads either side of the
stage like begin this the show like project of vagillity,
Like they're all kind of just like gruses or things.
They had their like minions come out at various points
and like goblin masks do like to just hold torches,
had wings at one point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen that before.
Speaker 3: My favorite was during phantom Antic Crises where they had
like the burning human effigies on stage as well.
Speaker 2: That that just looked I was like.
Speaker 3: You don't get this at not metal gigs. It's like
it's a unique flavor that sometimes you have to be
at the most metal of metal shows to see this
sort of shit, and it's such a welcome, welcome part
of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I said, it just it brings me
joy to see creator, you know, regularly kind of greeted
as the like all time metal legends, you know, for
decades and decades they have been that that I certainly
think they are setless wise. You know, the new album
Crush of the World I mentioned when we reviewed it.
I think it's a you know, a good fun album.
It is for me, the lowest punching of like the
twenty first century Creator records. And there were you know,
a couple of songs that they played from it where
I went, yeah, I can can't almost take or leave
this one for me, like when it really like hit stride.
So they opened seven Serpents, which is a good song,
you know, but when they got to like Enemy of
God three songs in, which is a fucking classic, and
then in to Satanic Anarchy, which is the one from
the new record where I'm like, that is an absolute
live banger.
Speaker 2: Their stand.
Speaker 1: Like that feels like classic Creator in that way, and
then we whip through you know HATI Berrallas kind of
you know, greatest hits really from you know, the twenty
first century Creator ensemble. So Chaos Satan is real, Phantom
anti Christ, all present and correct, but with those splashings
of you know, the new songs like Crushes of the World,
the title track, which, as we mentioned on review it
that feels like big essentially like you meat headed slow
metal groover. That's they feel like they're very much at
the stage where they're writing songs for the live set,
if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, Crush of the World is on that
that that that feels made for us. But you can
get like Satanic Anarchy is the fast when you put
in the live set. Crushes of the World is the
mid teen post on sing a long you put in
the live set kind of They they they cover both
those grounds nicely, going into hordes of chaos. I'm never
ever not gonna just get so hyped up when I hear.
Speaker 2: That DN.
Speaker 3: That that intro, I'm like, right here we go high
out the set for me. I love that song so much.
It's just such a banger say things, you know, big
sing alongs, like they just nail the kind of like
pushing part between. I'm gonna have a single one with
this one. I'm gonna bang my head to this one.
People are gonna run around in circles this one. It's
a real just kind of like let's say, grazings great said,
but grace. It's what a fresh metal, heavy metal kind
of live show should be. And that's why I think
just so like immensely enjoyable live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was having so much fun front to back.
I will say this is the maybe the first Creator
show I've been to where I felt myself missing things
that I used to get creative shows because the set
list was so heavily leaning on you, not even deep
album cuts from them, but essentially it was the set
list was comprised of like the flagship singles of all
the twenty first century records. So as you said, your
Phantomagic Grows song was Fantomatic grass, Your Heart to Chaos
song is Hordes of Chaos, Your God's Violent song is
Satan is real. That kind of deal and the only
kind of you know, dipping back into ye olden days
when I sort of do think Creator in their prime
in the eighties are like a classic flash band. We
had like, you know, Betrayer from Extreme Aggression title track
of Pleasure to Kill obviously, and they played like half
of Endless.
Speaker 2: Pain, which was cool.
Speaker 1: But I found myself, you know, I'm glad I started
to see Creator when I did more in like the
twenty tens, because I'm thinking about the shows and being like, yeah,
like we would get like under the guillotine dropping and
you know, Tormentor and these kind of things. And I
guess it's they had less albums at that time, but
the settlers felt a lot more spread between like the
eighties stuff and you know, the modern Stuffy didn't even
play Phobia for example this time from the nineties, which
I noticed that, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because last time I saw them was when they were
doing like an intimate show in Brighton, so they did
you know, sprinkling. Yeah, a lot more sort of deeper
cuts and not cuts, but like stuff like Phobia and
not just the kind of like monster.
Speaker 2: So I see. I mean like maybe this is one
where they will.
Speaker 3: Cycle back into that and yeah tour they will cycle
backed in sort of your newer stuff, and this is
you know, they want to put forward the new album
alongside then you know, the hits and wants to hear.
Speaker 2: But I do see where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it was essentially right for this
one because this time, I said, production wise, they were
putting forward this is like the big essentially what they're
going to bring around to festivals, right, and these are
the festival metal bangers that they do. But like they
did that Maryland Deathfest show last year where they did
it was like all extremely aggression, you know, pleasure to kill,
like early stuff, you know, and they kind of feel
a little bit more segmented these days, I suppose, and
like when they lean on that stuff and when they
lean on newer stuff. I mean, like, you know, for example,
there was a girl next to me who looked like
she was you know, like late teens, early twenties maybe,
and they were playing Betrayer and she was enjoying it,
and then they played Crushes of the World after that,
and when they started actually like screamed, so like clearly
you know, the newer generation Creator fans very thoroughly plugged.
Speaker 2: Into the new stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah what is coming out, And that's great, and I
think it was right for it. I just did find
myself being like, man, I would love the little bit
of surprise of remembering when they would drop like under
the guillotine and like our friend James would fall over
and shock and these kind of like things that need
to happen. And yeah, if they come around at some
point and they do sprinkle some of that stuff more
back in, then I'm very for it. But as the
you know, big metal party with the stage show the hits,
which it is you know, pretty NonStop, certainly to match
create off one of the sickest, you know, big metal
show live bands that's currently going around, and it's great
see them again continuing to succeed. So well, you your little
Jammy so and so got the extra bonus of a
surprise show at the London Underworld being announced headlined by
Carcass with Nails and Support off date from this and
so you've got to see both of those two bands
again in a perhaps more their own territory kind of setting.
So obviously we've covered both bands here already, but like,
was that an extra fun experience?
Speaker 3: So this is the now show I've wanted to see.
I bought my tickets for this as Carcass were taking
to the stage. Let's get us, let's get this locked
in now. But yeah, Nails so like support stop, but
they had forty five minutes, which meant they played like
twenty songs. So that's a Nails Headlines set as far
as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: Sure, and this is my one of the week of
the set of this sort of thing.
Speaker 3: While I was like, I'm in there, I'm down the front,
I'm climbing up like Rightfid Todd Jones shouting suffering soul,
but god like Nails in this setting was just destructive,
Like the pit were like people like properly throwing down
hard going out and like tearing chunks out of each other.
Still no give me the pain killer, So you didn't,
so like, yeah, that was of fro the blow at
least a little bit that they've they clearly just cycled
it out of the set list for this run for
whatever reason, maybe just does not feeling going that fast
of it. But I said, like twenty Nail songs, like
you're just getting some of the most destructive stuff, a
good like chunk of like I think it was all.
Speaker 2: Album's basically got like five or so songs from them, the.
Speaker 3: Abandal life stuff like that sounded devastating in the underworld.
That was when I was like, Jesus fucking crist I
forget this album might be the heaviest album and sometimes
it looks.
Speaker 1: Like setless wise compared to you know, the main tour.
You essentially you had a run of like six songs
added into the middle of it, and part of that
run is in Exodus Tyrant, So just that was.
Speaker 2: The in the middle.
Speaker 3: I was like, my head is getting like saved in
right now, but again Todd Jones still just really actually
gonna love and being on stage like like both in
the egg, like getting the crowd riled up and just
having a great fun time. Like even though between the
song you started playing a bit of carcass, just kind
of like have a bit fun with the crowd. It
was like that you'll get the real deal in a minute,
don't worry. But yeah, it was a really fun kind
of sound. I was like, yeah, this is this is
the setting on Nails and you know, I don't know
to be the only one anymore, but it just felt
like the right place to see Nails and like as
a lineup like a free piece.
Speaker 2: Now Is Live Now.
Speaker 3: They look so fucking cool on stage. They are like
going at it so hard. The go from warming, isn't.
Speaker 2: It Carlos Cruz like he is.
Speaker 3: So good and when the under one artis you kind
of like seeing just how hard he is playing.
Speaker 2: It is like such a like spectacle.
Speaker 3: You can watch all three members of now Is at
any point and you're you're getting a show from them,
like a really great set and then carcass, Like I
would admit I had to move to the back of Carcass,
I went two hundred nails and at the Underworld fucking
rammed for Carcass.
Speaker 2: Like people were like, obviously you can't stay.
Speaker 3: They played quite a lot, but again I don't think
they they film more maybe like electric ballroom sorts like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the tear up from Underworld. So this was like
people were there for it.
Speaker 3: And again this was just like again just a bit more,
like like an hourl on Carcass announced they had a
bit more so they did keep on rotting in the
free world in the middle and that that again that
is like a death metal party.
Speaker 2: Star and like that's what they said, you have a.
Speaker 3: Lot again they said you really quite joke you on
stage with this one, like Jeff like again playing up
to the crowd, like having a lot of fun with it,
and it was just like very cool to like I've
now seen like a real full sort of set of
like Carcass shows of two days, two very different settings,
but they are so tight live. Even if they had
a bit where they're like the drummer, we messed up
something and Jeff was like, right, you're in trouble later
and like just playing around, but.
Speaker 2: It just it felt like a kind of like cut
loose show.
Speaker 3: For carcaust the Underworld, where they were like, we're in
a tiny little venue. Let's let's kind of just have
a bit more fun with it while still being one
of the best defintal bands were like, this is sort
of set like songs that are like so heavy but
have these amazing moments and can be bangers and they
need to. Like I just it was a great sort
of like cap off to this sort of like we've
had the big show, like big metal celebration show and
now just kind of like these two bands in their
home turf, just like stomping your head in was was
fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's segue if we can back into the news,
the better news, and seeing as it involves one of
the same bands that we've just been talking about, I
think we should go straight into the Damnation announcement, who
again today have announced their top end of the bill.
This includes the two technically the headliners, even though DA
Nations seemed to be putting you know, less emphasis on
who was actually headlining the event these days, but this
is the two bands who are closing each day of
the festival, and also four other bands who are right
up there on the highest rungs of the poster as well.
I don't know if these are all main stage bands.
Maybe a couple of the headlining the second stage. I
don't know, but I mean, wou I would want these
all bands to be mainstage, to be honest in terms
of the people they will draw. Let's go through these
are one by one in order. Headlining the main stage
of the Saturday night at Damnation closing the festival on
that day is Cult of Luna.
Speaker 2: And Could of Luna.
Speaker 1: I mean they're already you know, playing a UK festival
this year at our Tangent where they're doing the you
know with Judy Christmas Mariner set, which I am still
you know, very disappointed that I'm not able to get
out and see. But a you're more straightforward Could Luna
set for a Damnation headlining set is still completely perfect,
basically like absolutely where you want to see that band.
They also have a logo on this poster that it
might have popped up somewhere. I'm not sure. I don't
immediately recognize the poster and that does make me go.
You know, it's been about four or five years since
the last Cot of Luna album. Is this part of
a you know, a new record tour you know, could
could will be but Cott of Luna as a Damnation
Saturday headliner.
Speaker 2: Yes, thumbs up.
Speaker 3: Great, Yeah, perfect choice, like that they feel so at home.
I mean again this top one of six bands, like
one of them because I'm just a bit less filliar
of them, but I say five of them.
Speaker 2: Was like, I feel like any of them could just
be Damnation headliners.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like the level of dinnering with but
Carl Luna if you want people to sort of stick
around as well, Like people are gonna want to see
that Carl Luna show because it's fucking cold of Luna.
And again, if they haven't new or if they are
just doing you know, the normal corbling and stuff, I
either have seen Cordland. So this is very much getting
me back I should be at Damnation this year because
that's a really cool booking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, talking about how some of the
Damnation headliner slots do sometimes wane in popularity in terms
of you know, people getting early trains home or whatever
that kind of thing. I imagine Cott Lunar are one
of the bands like that. You said, who like this
rob is going to still be at least half full,
you know, like people will stick around for Cotal Luna
headlining closing the Sunday night, and this feels like a
little bit more of a oh that's a you know,
cooler maybe just less expected the Court of Luna doing it.
Satyricon are headlining the main stage Sunday of dam Nation Festival,
and like, obviously you guys know I'm a black metal guy,
so this is fucking great news for me. I love
satirra Con. Satiricon are a great live band in that
they have the kind of best of both worlds in
that they have the more you know, kind of involved
esoteric material and you know they don't always play loads
of it, but like Mother North is going to sound
fucking brilliant, you know, in this environment. But then you
also have, oh yeah, you want a black metal band
to end your festival day with some party starters fuel Fair,
Hatred now Diabolical, Black Crow on a two stone like
it's And the last time I saw them was when
they headlined the second stage of Bloodstock a couple of
years ago, and it was just like I hadn't seen
them in a number of years, so they kind of
gone away for a bit and it just like ah yeah,
satirri con back and forth being fucking brilliant.
Speaker 2: Yees.
Speaker 3: Still I don't I don't see their name coming around
loads at the moment now, So they feel quite sort
of rare appearance. But as you say, party start a
black metal but we've still kind of like more.
Speaker 2: Interesting things they can pull from that.
Speaker 3: Again, feels like if you're gonna get like a Black
mal Bands headline, because again they're a rare deal, that's
a really cool put pall again and again what I've
not seen so when I'm like that for me is
a really exciting kind of like things, So like, yep,
I want to be there for that as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so those two are technically the headliners, but
these next four bands we're gonna mention are all you know,
again punching on the same kind of level in terms
of you know, selling tickets and venues and that kind
of thing, or in other cases, you know legend in
the you know the underground net weill scene, So no
slatches here either. Also like on the you know top
rolling this postal we got egor who I saw recently
when Imperi Triumphant were supporting on their UK too. I've
seen Egor twice now and like it's it's the one
of these five bands who I'm not personally really like
that invested in musically, but I will say, you know,
if you've never seen Egor live, it is I mean,
this is one I feel like has to be on
the main stage because there's so much that goes on
in an Egor live show, Like there are so many
moving parts, so many pieces. I've I've seen it a
couple of times, but if you haven't seen it, then
it's definitely a like one of the biggest, you know,
kind of what's going on sort of spectacles that you
can have at a festival like Damnation. I think again,
they're also playing out Tangent this year, but they're coming
back around for Damnation, so another big old book in
there then into more just run straight of legends. Here
fucking Crowbar right at Damnation Festival. And here's the thing
with this, Crowbarr. Damnation Festival is not a shock. I
don't rememb if they've ever played it before, but I'm
not surprised by the booking. It's the fact that we
are here in twenty twenty six and Crowbar are this
high up the poster, which five years ago might have
felt kind of strange, but right now it's like, oh yeah,
they have to be there because, as we've kind of
alluded to in the last kind of halful of months
or whatever, Crowbar are fucking like really popular now. They
just did a UK tour and I couldn't go because
the venue sold out, just like that, immediately I.
Speaker 3: Missed down it sold out And I know, like they're
us ones, They're doing it like the biggest show, biggest headlines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like TikTok Legends Crowbar.
Speaker 3: Now it would seem like, I mean, this is striking
while the iron is hot with them, is like Crowbar
are on the like run of their life and the
popularity get them in and kind of celebrate that. I think,
Like I mean, again, as I've said, like the things
that will put what I'm in just getting to see
Crowbar and like my phone is that band now that
that's a real big like yeah, that's that's gonna be
good vibes that said, like just having the best time
with Crowbar, but you know you're gonna have put.
Speaker 2: A few pounds before you get there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but as I said, you know, Crowbar just eternally present,
eternally around, but right now in twenty twenty six, it
feels like a get to get growbar and so a
big moment there and I'm very happy to see it.
Then we have very familiar to us now Carcass, who
you know have headlines Damnation you know when it was
a smaller event, but they have headline Damnation on your
various occasions and total damnation legends. They are one of
these bands like a Napalm Death or an Electric Wizard who,
like you know, everyone is like this is their crowd, right,
so just get the walk into that place and be
royalty as ever. And then the one that I am
most pleased about, of course, trip to Con making I
think their Damnation debut. Like certainly the time that I've
been going, they've never booked trip to Con and I've
long gone why haven't you booked trip to Coon? Like
because they are it's not like they are, you know,
impossible to get right like. They have been a touring
band for the last you know, fifteen plus years. And
in terms of those like legends of the extreme metal
world who also seem you know, like budgetarily realistic or
whatever for somewhere like Damnation. I was genuinely be amused
as to why those parts had never crossed and why
Trip toic On had never played it. So I'm fucking
stoked to say, I mean, right, they' booked my favorite band,
so of course I'm happy. But like it is a
I think it's a Damnation debut, whether they you know,
turn up on the main stage and just fucking lay
out those classic I mean it's builders just Trip to Con.
So imagine that they do play the odd Celtic cross song,
but will have the you know, the the modern stuff
as well, and they will be Crowbar and Trip to
Con is like two of the heaviest sounding fucking things
in the world.
Speaker 2: On that guitar tone is going to be like cotton
blue as well.
Speaker 3: Let's be real like that yeah big something film like
oh yeah, seeing trips can be tripped on rather than
like playing.
Speaker 2: The stuff like that again.
Speaker 3: Like that that top that that that is such a
big deal announcement.
Speaker 2: I mean this year like feels like you have so
many of these.
Speaker 3: Like ridiculous festival announcements, where like every fest was really
like almost an episode, like really up to their game
this year, and I think like in terms of delivering
what their fans want and sort of making the value
for money festival, I think there is there's few festivals
that kind of hold a candle to to sort of
what damnation off are they? They really have grown into
a special sort of musty event.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a really fucking strong top run added to
that Damnation poster looking very very good. Indeed, we are
quite away into this episode and we're only getting around
to the new music and then the album announcements and
you know, prior to the last of twenty four hours,
so and you know, all the news has happened here.
This was the what the fuck do you mean a
bit of the week because Converge.
Speaker 2: I've got another new album coming out.
Speaker 1: Converge dropped the album in February, and then I guess,
not to be outdone by Neurosis, they were like, watch this,
We've got another one coming. Love is Not Enough came
out in February. In June, we will get hum of
Hurt and there's starts to be some rumors going around
and people are like, oh, and I think there might
be a Converge album coming. And now it has been
confirmed Dune the fifth it will be out. There is
also the title track from it out as a single.
What how has this happened? We waited essentially, you know
if you discount Blood Moon nine years for a new
Converge album, and then we get two inside what like
four months.
Speaker 3: Like the thing is when the rumors were so circling about,
which was on like thirty first of March, so you're like,
there's gonna be announced.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, is like yeah, yeah, cool, sure, and.
Speaker 3: There was like, oh no, no, there is there's a
title track. We are getting a second Converge album this year?
Is the Podium this year going to be a Neurosis
Converged double like if you are into.
Speaker 2: Artistic challenging into heavy.
Speaker 3: Music, like it feels that again like we rag on
where heavy music is and sort of commercial side the
underground is coming out swinging this year with the best
shit possible two Converge albums, like and again like obviously
they said, you know they were away for ages, they
will work on so much material, and then when we
got like thirty one minute the most of Bludgeoning to
the point Converge album, that was kind of like, oh okay,
and then we get this and again, like I mean
this south I think, like I look at the TRAT list,
it's like still ten songs is like.
Speaker 2: Thirty four minutes.
Speaker 3: But this lead single is definitely on the more involved
kind of end of Converge. It's not quite you know,
blood Moon levels, but so it's all middle ground between
that and the stuff on love Love is Not Enough.
But as a lead single, it's gonna like Converge are
just the best band, and this is so good.
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
Speaker 3: There's like so many cool little guitar parts in there,
Bannon's kind of flexing his vocal range a bit more
of it, but it's it's just, yeah, like I'm getting
a second Converge album this year, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: As he was touching on with a single here you know,
the Converge album that came out, there were a few
people who are like, this just sort of seems like
a Converge album in terms of it's a more straightforwardly
aggressive type of record, and this just sonically it feels
less like a big titan fist into your face as
Love is Not Enough does, and it is more slithering
and a bit more strange, and even like the bit
when Nate comes in vocally, which I always fucking love,
whether it be Converge or cave In Now or whatever.
But when Nate comes in vocally, it's over like a
melodic riff, rather than how he's usually deployed, which is
like the bulk.
Speaker 2: You know. Maybe I'm chasing.
Speaker 1: That neurosis high. I wish we didn't know about this.
I wish that they'd sat on it because imagine how
brilliant it would be to be, you know, spinning. Love
is not enough, which I think you know obviously now
people are gonna go, oh, a new Converge album. Maybe
that album. I hope people, you know, continue to give
its flowers. I suppose because I.
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, you know what I mean. I'm in
the hype Converge. I've finally got that in my vinyl collection.
Speaker 3: Love is not enough because I'm to be forgotten about
because it's so good.
Speaker 1: Sure, exactly. Maybe I wish we had a couple more
months of just that. But imagine how brilliant would be
getting to June waking up one day and there's another Convergion.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here like I'm seeing Converge at the end
of June, are you gonna get a set that it's
entirely just like there was a strong possibility they could
just decide, you know, this set is the two new albums,
Like there be so much new Converged material.
Speaker 2: I want to see in the set. What are they
gonna do?
Speaker 3: Like it's it is mental like again I know what
you mean that like that magic of that like Neurosis
moment was so good that Conversion Manage had pulled that off,
that would have been saying, I don't know if they were,
Like I don't if they were able to because you
say it started to leak out before so the they
didn't have it as tight ship as Neurosis did.
Speaker 2: But it's still just like.
Speaker 3: It's the kind of like, hey, two converged albums is
such a like fun Well, what a feast we have
got between like two converge records. I I would say,
like the Poison the world record that he rose his
record that's on the side of my music taste. It
has been so well served this year that I'm having
zero complaints from me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so look forward to that. We also have you know,
we sort of alluded to it last week we thought
again it then but Wesa are now back with a
song called Shine Again. They are, you know, leading into
a new album campaign that will be released I suppose
some point later in the year. The song shine Again
that is out something that we noted even before it
was released. Is the kind of the writing credits of
it came out, I suppose, and it is. I think
it's the first song in a long long time to
be written not by Rivers Cromo, but by Weesa's drummer
Patrick Patrick Wilson. And there are songs like It's Automatic
from the Red album that he's done that with and
it was like, oh, what do you mean we're going
back to that? I would say putting this on, you
wouldn't actually think of that in the same way, because
you know, River still sings it. It's not Patrick vocal.
What this strikes me as Weezer wise, obviously, this is
the first your proper Weezer material, I suppose since the
season's records, and if you have been along with our
trials and tribulations of our like Weezer coverage on the
Patreon there there are of course ups and downs in
their catalog, and I would describe seasons as a particular
low point for us all collectively. This sounds, certainly in
production like this is like almost back to the garage
fucking drawing room Weezer production, and this is like, oh,
straightforward Weezer again, like the Weezer that we know.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't like.
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard the single once. It didn't hit
me in the way you think about the lead singles
of you know, A fucking a Mexican Fender right or
a you know the white album tracks, those kind of
songs in terms of scale of song, but in terms
of sound and tone, this sounds more like, oh, it's Weezer,
rather than oh fuck it's Weezer.
Speaker 3: Yes, that is exactly my again, like I like, I
never know what I'm Gonna's. Part of the joy and
the wonder and the magic and the terror of Weezer
is you get a new song and you hit playing,
you just you don't know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna get a song that is like just
plug in and play?
Speaker 3: Can like in the garage just can like melodically great
like emo song, pop rock song, whatever? Or are you
gonna get the nonsense that was on Seasons?
Speaker 2: And this is me.
Speaker 3: Again, I'm not blown away by this, but I'm like, ah, Weezer, yes,
because again it's got a nice kind of loonic hook.
Speaker 2: The production it.
Speaker 3: Does sound rawer and a bit more just kind of
like authentic, and it's a very just nice lead single
to sort of settle into. And it's kind of like again,
like I'm not gonna like say that the entire im
is gonna be amazing yet, because again this could like
we had you know, Mexic vend and then we've got
Pacific Daydream, Like wouldn't be funny.
Speaker 1: If the only good song on the album was the
one written by Patrick and all the rivers songs like happen.
Speaker 3: Weezer lad like they are just like no bad and
like them out there. But I'm cautiously optimistic that we
can throw the w up again.
Speaker 1: Wheezer is back, Like yeah, and this is really weird
that this has happened the same week that they have
got you know, an actual new single.
Speaker 2: Acum, I mean this one to me because I'm so
confused by this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a case of TikTok strikes again. And I
can't tell you, I can never tell you really why
the things start, Like why who decides on Mary on
a Cross or you know, fucking repulsive in its splendid
beauty for Crowbar being the song that people latch onto.
But Weezer's song go Away, which is the song from
Everything Will Be all Right in the End, it's an
album cut. It's the song that features Bethany from the
band Best Coast.
Speaker 2: I love that song.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love that album, but that's always one
that you know, I it sticks out in my head. Yeah,
the duet between them is lovely. Big fan of that song,
really really liked it, always have done since we've done
our coverage on that record and that kind of thing.
That's charted on the Billboard Hot one hundreds this week
for the first time. It is number ninety currently. It's
their first appearance on that chart, which, again, the bill
of Hot one hundred is like the one hundred biggest
songs in America. Yeah, like the number one songs are
like the actual number one songs. Right, It's in the
Hot one hundred. It's their first appearance there since Africa
in twenty eighteen. Time they punched through to that zeitgeist.
But it seems to be for some reason this Everything
Will Be Right in the end album cut. This really
nice little it's a proper Weezer song, right, it's not again,
it's not in Africa, Like it's a really it's a
great Weezer song with this guest appearance on there. For
some reason that has TikTok has just you know, delivered
its divine judgment that that is now the song that
in the latest line to just get a random boost
of traction and is now charting on the actual Hot
one hundred over a decade after it was released.
Speaker 3: There is so many Weezer songs I could imagine becoming
You could probably put fifty Weasa songs, like as a
conservative guess of how many wheez songs I would predicted
to become TikTok kits before this one. It's it's a
world I do not understand. Like I'm always like, why
is it ever actually a band's best song? What to do?
Speaker 2: How does that? This is a cool one? I think
this is not?
Speaker 3: This is this is yeah yeah no, this is a
like intro. This is a really interesting thing. I like
it could have been castop partying, is what I'm gonna say, Like, like, like,
is go Away now going to have to be a
Weezer Live mainstay for the rest of their Like, is
it going to replace Africa in the set?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well.
Speaker 1: Here's some stats for you. Everything will be right in
the end on Spotify. Unfortunately, obviously, you know, I don't
have a before and after now because I've got what's
in front of me. But most of the songs on
the album have all got you know, a few thousand streams.
Back to the Shack, which was the you know, the
pushed single from that album has twenty nine thousand uh no, sorry,
twenty nine million streams. Again, I can't tell you what
it was before. I imagine it would have been similar
to all the album tracks. Go Away Right Now has
forty six million plays, So it has leap frogged the
lead single from that album to be the massive song
from that record.
Speaker 3: Now on Apple Music, when you like open up to
go to iCal, it has like they're the commost so
and it's like, say, it's the top song on on
the Weezer payer and Apple Music. It's I was like,
how just this, Like I say, what divine judgment? What
trend is this part? Because again I am I'm not
on TikTok, so I don't know what trend this is
part of. Yeah, it's just such an odd sort of thing.
But like I say, if this beeds to go Away,
is now gonna be a Weezer livestable kind of welcome
this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, here's another stat for you, Rick Ocasek
from The Cars, who you know has done regular producing
work with Weezer. It's his first appearance on that chart
as you know, a producer since the Sweater Song charted
in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2: So like he's just again.
Speaker 1: That's a record where they returned to working with him
and now was suddenly just fucking he's booted up.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love go Away.
Speaker 1: That's a great song. I wouldn't have predicted this, but
you know, I'm not mad about it.
Speaker 2: So good there.
Speaker 1: We also have a continual run of new music. The
Callus Dow Boys have put a new single called jig
Antick Parasite Tongue Calistalboys of course, you know pretty hot
off there, very well received, very well lighted album that
came out last year. Have you checked out the new single?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is cool.
Speaker 3: I've only given it one listen and it's a Calistalboys song,
So I kind of like it's a lot to it,
But I love this band. I think, like, I think
they're a really good band. Have as kind of like
one of the bands actually bothering the mainstream of like
Metical and that sort of sort of things, because they
are getting more interesting out.
Speaker 2: Their ideas to a crowd, to our kind of averse
to that. I don't like.
Speaker 3: Again, it hasn't immediately got it to me, because again,
this is this is mental Calistalboys. This is one of
their most are like throw let's throw loads of ideas
in there, but they're asking you know, big hooks in there.
There's some cool riffs, some weird, oh freak choices in there,
but it's more Calistalboys. If you likes that last album,
I don't know why you would hear this and kind
of go like, ah, it's too final, because this is, yeah,
just a cool standlone single.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like the bits where you know, it's got these
kind of heavy you know, Dylan ju esque you know,
this blast beats and stuff to begin with, but then
it throws in for like a second at a time,
these like two thousand nightcore fucking electro beats, and it
reminded me of was that band we reviewed last year,
Blind Equation. Yes, and that kind of like you know,
computer y. You know, I'm in the digi zone. Get
that band on TikTok, I say, mate that but it
kind of reminds me of that, and you know, that's a
flavor that I'm down for. So yeah, pretty decent single
from the Callistur Boys. Bal Mora have announced they're quite
long awaited at this point debut album. This is a
band who, on their EPs and their live shows have
been one of the most hyped bands in the hardcore
metallic hardcore metalcore world. And in the promo picture for
this album, the guy in the middle is wearing a
fucking old school older logo and mortal shirt, so I
have to give them the thumbs up there. Album is
called These Graven Halls. It's out May twenty ninth, and
like I said, when it comes to the the that
kind of metallic hardcore world, that's one of the bands
that we would certainly I think, you know, check in
on what they're too excited for bal Mora.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really am. I do like this song a lot.
Speaker 3: I think that of the kind of like modern kind
of like throw back metallic caulk and stuff that. Again,
there's so much of it. I do think Ba Mora
have just a bit more craft to them. This is
their first song with a new vocalist I think is
the guy in Themortal top of the promo picture. So
like this is a new era for the band. I
think that's why the album's taking a bit of a while.
There's been some lineup change and all that. But yeah,
this is you know, it's got evil kind of molodic
lead guitar parts. It's got like just pure mosh bits,
Like there are some some of the moshas they will
just drop in there kind of random intervals are just
like so hard.
Speaker 2: I'm like that they throw a lot into these songs.
Speaker 3: That kind of makes them it's a bit more kind
of exciting then some of the other kind of like
metallic hulks from there. Sort of seeing that again, I
like a lot, but it's a bit more. A bit
more time does and this is this has.
Speaker 2: I don't know, a bit more sparked to it in
the songwriting and the craft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on that, you know, on that kick. Guilt Trip
have also announced their new album called Armor of Angels.
It's out Dune, the fifth via road Runner road right.
Speaker 2: Weirdly big Guilt Trip recently, like I couldn't quite believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they headlined uh No Playfest of All, which is
the festival in the hardcore world that happens in Liverpool.
I think it might have been last year or the
year before. They were like top of the bill of
that thing. I think Guilt Trip are totally fine, but
as you've noted, they are quite popular now, so I
thought i'd ask you if you're interested.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I like your trip.
Speaker 3: They don't like they've never been like the most kind
of like George from a band in that sort of scene.
But they have again kind of crossed over in a
way where they're like on a big co headlining running
America with malevolence at the moment, Like in American particularly,
they've really caught on over there, Like I've seen some
of the festivals they were playing, like the big outdoor stages.
They're like Guilt Trip for a UK band from Manchester
who have just kind of been a part of the
hardcore furniture here for god knows how long. Weirdly kind
of blown up and I think cool, I like I
want to I want to on this album to kind
of like step up in terms of like the songwriting,
but I'm happy to sort of see them succeed.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then let's close out the hardcore run of
news here with fucking hell Brady Eberts, who we had
mentioned in the New show, you know, a couple of
weeks ago, kind of almost at this point, capping off
what we thought was just going to be the run
of mental news that he would be involved in, of
being kicked out of bands and you know, mouth and
off about them and all that kind of stuff. For
legal reasons, I don't think we should like you know,
speculate or do too much here, but he has been
apparently arrested on a you know, suspicion of attempted murder,
and it has then since come out that it is
likely to do with Turnstile vocalist Brendan Yates's father, who
Brady Ebert has allegedly tried to ram down with his car.
And all I will say is that, you know, when
we were talking about the speculative career of Brady, but
we will like imagine if in thirty years time he is,
you know, covering old Turnstiles. Obviously we're doing a joke
there mirroring Dave Mustaine's career because that's what the vibes
felt like. He's lapped Dave Mustaine. Now hasn't He hasn't,
No one's no one's gotten that angry.
Speaker 2: This is, yeah, a real term.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like, this feels like there's there's wider
problems within this that like, yeah, addressed that that self
evident truth EP that he played on, which might be
like the lasting that that's kind of just like a
weird artifact in this whole sort of thing. But yeah,
this is spiraled in ways.
Speaker 2: I was kind of like Jesus were like hardcore band beefs, Like.
Speaker 1: We like that they just happened to that genre.
Speaker 3: I mean the joking in the they're lapping black metal
in terms of like insane ship that bands are doing
to each other.
Speaker 2: This is crazy.
Speaker 3: And again I don't want to like be too clim
about this because it is some really horrible situation, but
it is just the sort of insane escalation of he
was kicked out Turnstile four years ago.
Speaker 2: Now I say he don't remove fro Turnstile like four
years ago.
Speaker 3: And it was with the Sey's new band where he
started to sort of mouth off against them, got removed
from that band, started another new band, head his mouth
and now it's got to this. It's just kind of
like the escalation over a couple of months is mental,
like like, well, I'm sure more will come out of
this in the coming days, but yeah, it's a crazy story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that someone in our discord replied to
their saying, fucking hell just dosing with Esterton like any
sane person, we are beyond what we thought was possible
a handful of years ago. We have truly across the
group of gun when it comes to that world. You know, sincerely,
I hope that everyone fucking involved with this, you know,
it is okay because it's you know, some serious shit,
but fucking hell wild something that we can celebrate more more.
Holy Rush, the new lineup with an Eca Niles on
the drums, has made their first live public appearance. They
did it at the Juno Awards, where also Despised Icon
won an award and took the home the award for
the Canadian you know, Metal Heavy Music Album of the Year.
What a great headline that is, what ann where both
Russia Present and Despised Chord are taken over trophies. Yeah,
that's legends only.
Speaker 2: I mean there was other this where.
Speaker 3: Billy Tallent got like kind of like a legacy kind
of award where they on stage talking about like with
importance of Punker and that's the thing I was. But
the do you know what seems like it was a
really cool pie this year like Russia back Billy Talent
kind of being celebrated, despised winning awards up the Canada.
Speaker 2: This Rush performance though really cool.
Speaker 3: There is like one guy in the credit keeps cutting
to who is having the time of his life watching
Rush player song.
Speaker 2: But they sound great, Like she seems.
Speaker 3: Like a really good feel on the drummer, so yeah,
this is this is good vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Geddy is fucking he's pretty wild on this.
He's kind of, you know, veering all over the place.
But they're playing interesting. It's playing the song Finding My Way,
which is the first track from the debut Rush album,
so they've not come in and done, you know, a
really heavy hitter and interesting that it makes it one
of the few songs in the Rush catalog that Neil
Perk did not actually perform the drums on because the
first album is before he joined, so interestingly, we still
haven't seen you know, this lineup playing a you know,
a Neil Pert song essentially an interesting.
Speaker 3: Way to re announce some sort of rush those go
back to You track one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's an interesting tidbit of what's going on there.
But yeah, happy to see him, obviously with the knowledge
that I'll be seeing them in you know, a bit.
Speaker 2: Under a year's time.
Speaker 1: Blaze Bailey has been announced to be headlining the Friday
nights of Iron Maiden's neb Worth Weekend. Their Big neb
Worth Weekend or where I Made Themselves will be performing.
Blaze Bailey has been booked performing He's you know, touring
later this year, doing essentially you know, a set of
his Iron Maiden era and his Iron Maiden songs. I
have to tell you, I'm genuinely tempted and I want
to go because I you know, production an issue with
the album's aside and all that, there is a handful
of the Blaize Bailey song which I love that I
do think are classics, and to see the man performing
them is you know, a good night out as far
as I'm concerned, and I think it's nice and just
quite a nice, happy gesture. I suppose that, you know,
to get the official, you know, invitation to be part
of this big you know, it's sort of an extension
of their fiftieth anniversary thing, isn't it. So to be
part of it and be like, yeah, you can be
part of the Weekend and.
Speaker 2: Maiden and it feels kind of nice. He's been able
to be part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he gets to play fucking Sign of the
Cross and the Clansman and Man on the Edge and
a good bunch of songs. So yeah, happy for Blaze Bailey,
Happy that that that has been added there. Also, Judas
Priest have added a one off London show this year.
It is in the the Hammersmith what is it, the
Evident Him Apollo, Yes, just sure brands, fucking yeah, the
Hammersmith Apollo September the twenty first. Is obviously they're playing
Blood stop in August, but they're not touring fully, but
do it adding a London show and support on that
show comes from the reactivated Nevermore, who also just played
their first show back like last night, and I've been
watching footage of that of all the Turkish fans going
fucking mental. Singing really loudly along to like Sentient Number
six and all these tracks. But that is a fucking
awesome you know, if you are not going to Bloodstot
for example, but you're able to hit Judas Priest and Nevermore,
that's a that's a proper heavy metal show. That is
so I'm very jealous of the people who are attending
that event. I'm hoping that I can see, you know,
at least some of these bands later on in the
year somewhere else. But that is a great show. Alkaline
Trio have added a UK and a little bit of
Europe headline tour. They are going to be arriving here
in July, late June and July. They're playing Birmingham, Newcastle, Leeds,
Manchester and the Kentrytown Forum in London. When was the
last time you saw Alkaline Tria.
Speaker 2: Slamm Dunk last year? They were great. It's one of
the best times I've seen them. Yeah, great.
Speaker 1: I saw them on the headline tour maybe two three
years ago and it was very very fun. Indeed, so
good news see Alkaline Tria coming back, and just another
show that I'm very jealous of. Sai the Japanese haven't goard.
Black Metal Legends have also added a one off London
show on the eleventh of July. It's downstairs at the
Dome and it is billed as a specifically old school
set tracking their Scorn defeat through to Hail Horror, Hail Era.
So the mid nineties first, like three Records SI, one
of those records we spoke about recently on the night
in the eight seven special we did. And yeah, I
mean if that was if that was closer to me,
if that was in my area, I would be there
in a heartbeacers. That's a fucking awesome little time. Cool
And before we really start, you know, closing this episode off,
before we move on, I'm going to give a shout
out here for any listeners who may be so interested.
There is a book that is up now available for
pre order that is releasing later in the year. It
is titled Mental Health for metal Heads, Rock Your Way
to Well Being written by James Neeson. This is not
a paid advertisement because we don't do that here and
I'm a little adverse to lots of people, you know,
turning up and wanting to advertise on our stuff. But
James has been a long time member of the T
and M community for years on all of our social
channels and everything and you know social groups, and I
know he's been working on this for a long time.
It has cover art by Ed Repka, the icon behind
so many of the great thrash metal covers of the eighties,
the thrash Artist, and of course, as you can gather
from the title, it is a book to do with
you know, therapy and mental well being, but aimed at
metal heads, with references sewn throughout too many a band
from the metal universe. I think even the odd reference
taken from this show and our in jokes over the years.
So seems made for the T and M fans out there,
coming at subjects like psychology through the heavy metal lens
and the artists that we love. I have not personally
had the opportunity to read it, but it has been
looked over by a licensed psychiatrist apparently, and fifty percent
of the profits this are also going to the Sophie
Lancaster Foundation. So if that sounds like a read that
you might get something out of, then, as said, it
is available now for pre order through Amazon for your
kindle for example, Mental Health for metal Heads, Rock Your
Way to well Being by James Neeson. We this week
on the Patreo patron dot com slash That's not Meal.
We brought that album Club pack after a few months
away from it because we were doing that formatch of
ninety ninety seven special where we spoke about fucking, you know,
a thousand albums, but we wanted to bring about album
Club and so to do it to shake off that dust,
we just almost randomly, just you guys, you know, selected
from across the spectrum, just some some cool stuff to
be talking about. And so it resulted in finally officially
having never done it, unbelievably at album Club, looking at
what happened withins Temper Temper as well as Blue Oyster Cults,
fire on an Origin and talking about what are fucking
brilliant at times like Undiscovered Band they are, Gorilla Biscuits
Start Today are really again if you've not heard that record,
a seminal record from the eighties hardcore world and just
some fucking brutal death metal was Skinlesses foreshadowing our demise
and uh, you know, the first one of those album
clubs is the name one the story right in terms
of a record that everyone listening right now Will I'm
sure remember where you were when you heard Riot Whoe
for the first time. But we had a lot of
fun with the other ones as well well, and it
was a good batch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was like it was a nice, like easy
going album come after you know the Mammoth Low that
was the nine ninety seven special where outside of like
on the round of that, it was like, these albums
are just good fun to listen to me in all
different kind of guys, fun bit hip shaking eighties pop rock,
just kind of life affirming eighties hardcore and punk and
then just the most bludgeoning like brutal death mel But
the vibes on those three records, which of them, were
just going like this is just rocking in it, this
is a good time.
Speaker 2: And I think that was gond like just carried through
the album Club episode. It was. It was a real
fun one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that what that vibue was going
for the latter three, I think was the release valve
and the salvaging of everything after the first album Club
when we do again try and not just talk about
isn't it funny when Matt Tuck says you're a leach
and all those kind of bits, but gauging, yeah.
Speaker 3: Kind of like the still conclusions we reached about, like
the changes that Bullet could not have seen coming when
they were dropping the clunker of Temper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just gauging what went wrong with the album,
but also gauging the long term effects that no one
at the time would have really been able to predict
in the same kind of so I think it was
a very noteworthy album club worth doing in that sense.
I think probably next week here on this show, I
will announce what our next band special is going to be,
which is the next thing that we are going to
be diving into. I think if you've paid attention to
some clues and picked up on some things along the way,
you might be able to guess who it is. But yeah,
I think I think next week I'll throw that out there.
And yeah, so Patron dot com slash that's the metal
is the place to be for all of that. Let
us end this like really extended. We had fucking so
many you know, things from again different areas of the
emotional spectrum really to be talking about this hyperblast, But
let's end it finally now with the release round up,
and because we had the new reviews bag last week.
We have a couple of weeks to go from, and
last week was March twenty seventh, and it's one of
those weeks kind of like the end of April is
going to be where just a million albums came out,
so on top of like some of the records that
we already spoke about, like for example, the Hell Reppert
album and the Aggressive Effect album, I hope people have
checked out those and had fun with those. The other
stuff that came out last Friday that you is in
and around the TNM spectrum. Don Broco put out their
newest album, Nightmare Tripping, a band who are continually I
think they're still big. I think they're still continuing to
climb and be around. We have Black Label Society with
Engines of Demolition, of course, Zach Wilde's band. Then the
you know kind of I think the Tunisian North African
kind of folk progy metal. My Wrath had Wilderness of Mirrors.
Then we're going to talk about a bit of metal
court for a little while. First, one that has really
like made the rounds in terms of, you know that
this particular fan base of this kind of metal core,
this seems to have been the album of discussion for
the last couple of weeks. I would say mood Ring
with Death Fetish and like I said, I've seen lots
of like praise for this album. I know, Sam that
you want really quite feeling it in the same way.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a funny one because I was like, there's
a band that I've gone on about, Affair, but over
the last few years who were kind of doing this
sort of new metal industrial metal core hardcore sort of
thing with a lot more in ideas for I wonder who.
Speaker 2: Gives you that as me?
Speaker 3: And like, again, like this is fine, but I didn't
quite want to put on I was like, is this
what's like really galvanizing people to like get really like
knives up of anyone who's not calling this now of
the year contender. I was just like, it's fine. It's
kind of new metally rocky metalcore. If you're if you're
down with that, then you're probably have a good time
with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I checked out a little bit of it. There
wasn't much to make me want to, you know, spend
that much time with it, but that is out there,
and you know, if it wasn't praised for that album,
they might have been praised for this one or the
more extreme violent end of the metallic hardcore spectrum A
Chamber with This is Goodbye. You've got feelings on this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this one.
Speaker 3: This is as polished as kind of like the sort
of more violent end of metallic hardcore can get, but
it kind of is really kind of like in your
face and violent. I was like, this treads that line
quite nicely that I did. I did quite like this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Though from the run of these medical albums, the
one that I do want to, you know, invest get
a little bit further come from a Winter's Remorse with
the Day Our God's abandoned us. And that's because this one,
upon you know, again checking out a little bit of
it is it's so like early two thousands metal Corps
that I would say, at least the songs that I
heard arguably as much straight melodic death metal yeah as
it is actually particle.
Speaker 3: I saw the cover of this, or the fonts or
the angel status was like, I know what I'm getting
myself in, so I know.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like it.
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, there's actually a bit more
kind of melodic death on some of this, but I
think this is that angel statue of calling that I love.
But we kind of also rag on a little bit
as a slight punchline for how samee it is with
a little bit more source.
Speaker 2: I think this is really cool.
Speaker 3: This is of the sort of run of melalk clubs
talking about this is the real one I think to
check out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one definitely for you know, at the
gates and in Flames fans and that kind of thing.
And then one that you've also added onto the metal
core run. We have concealer with this room could be heaven.
So who are these guys?
Speaker 2: This is?
Speaker 3: This is I've been I kind of just heard about
this week after I saw again people banging on about
this album.
Speaker 2: They're a little bit more on the kind of like
the Static Dress two.
Speaker 3: Thousand's emo kind of revival within metalcore, but again it's
got like his fingers in slightly more interesting train. I
think it's a good kind of entry point into more
like aggressive angular sides of metallic hardcore, but with again
a modern metal core and kind of naughty' emo machine
to it. But yeah, I thought this was pretty decent
and worth so of just throwing.
Speaker 1: In Yeah Fair and then into the thrash metal terrains
from the UK, there's Divine Chaos with Hate Reactor from Germany.
More in the crossover thrash Realm, there's a band called
Zas that's a Z E double r E. There records
called Rotting on a Golden Throne. Then we move into
the kind of emoi world. There's The Twilight Sad, who
are a band who, like I have known the name
for ages I you know that I'm not really like
O fay particularly with them, but they have been you know,
certainly long gooing for it for a while. They are.
Their record is called It's the Longerd Bye. Then we
had a returning record from you know, one of the
beloved bands of the kind of twenty tens, you know,
Emo or Potarko or whatever, Boom Tiger's Jaw with Lost
on You Sam thoughts on the new Tiger's Jaw if
you've ever been a fan.
Speaker 2: Of them again.
Speaker 3: They were in mys with so many times that that
twenty em thing is I came round too late.
Speaker 2: I really like this.
Speaker 3: I've kind of come out to some of the earlier
Tigers Shaws a bit more now again change, but this
is a nice comeback record for the me if you
like Tiger's Jewel. I think it's much stronger than where
they left off last time, so this is a nice
solibing term for them.
Speaker 1: Cool and then to close off fat Run, we have
a three throw with moments before the Wind to again
is upcoming your kind of emo E band. I believe
they're playing the first day of outbreak like the proper
Emo the type day, so that's stats five there. Then
we pivot into the extreme metal side of things and
again aside from them again the hell Ripper and that
kind of stuff. The big release I would say of
that bunch this week was Winter Philith with the Unyielding Season,
the long running staples of the UK black metal scene.
It's like their ninth album at this stage, and I
would describe this one as being, you know, quality wise,
fairly similar to the last one in that it's not
my favorite thing they've ever done, but they always keep
up such a really reliable standard and there's some really
good stuff on it as a really great curve of
enchantment by a paradis lost at the end of it.
Speaker 2: A very fine album in.
Speaker 1: Perhaps a little bit more of a buzz record comes
from Kector Rack with morning Star, which is if you
are paying attention more to the kind of the the
slightly raw black metal world, but the bands from that
world who have really garnered a lot of hype. So
for example, you look at Lamp of Murmur and stuff
like that. Kecktor Rack is one that I'm not personally
as you know, into as like names I just mentioned there,
but he's kind of like he's become one of the
I don't know, the hot topics of the black metal
underground because he's kind of the black metal soft boy
and there's like an emo rapper on this album is
like it's kind of like if if Lil People was
in Corpse Paint. Even though it music, you're having flashes
of recognition here.
Speaker 3: I think I saw a clip of this going viral
and I was like, what what this is?
Speaker 2: Odd?
Speaker 3: Like I'm not sure, however, that that black metal rap thing.
I don't know if that is this or if that's
a different black.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is this odd.
Speaker 1: Musically, a lot of it is just pretty straightforward, like
you know, sounds like old raw black metal kind of thing,
but it just has this very like sad boardline emo
in spirit kind of vibe to it again has made
him as slightly you know, controversial figure as you can
you can imagine. But the keckt Irac, you know, I
think there was a really funny Pitchfork reviewed this album
as you can tell this week, and there was a
lot of discourse that started because the writer seemed to
imply that blast Beats are white supremacist and.
Speaker 2: It's just a whole thing going on.
Speaker 1: So black metal, you know, not to be outdone by
the hardcore well and know if it's going on there,
black metal is still having its you know, silly goings on.
But anyway, kept direct Morning Star ams out.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: There was also Cruel Force with Hanaida, which is like
roto Tom's heavy black speed metal. Basically, if the fact
that hell Ripper and Aggress Prefector also released appms on
that day was not enough, you had more. Their Cryptworm
put out Infectious Pathological Waste, and I think I'm writing
saying that Cryptworm is the band featuring members of Cryptic Shift,
but when they're not doing the you know, full on
fucking head melting jazz thing that we had such a
you know, intense time with on the album reviews. This
is more you know, gory, brutal death metal and in
the again if you are do want to go for
the tech deathy side of things. There's growth with under
the Under Melbourne tech death band, and there was an
EP that fucking came out of nowhere last week. I
don't know why they've done this, but Enslaved put an
EP with the Storm Weather Shanty Choir, which is a
two track EP of kind of Viking folk chart meats
sea shanty choir. Thing slave can do whatever they want
and this is another unexpected entry into that canon. Right
that was just last week's reviews. Let's finally get onto
today's releases. In the metal world, I would say the
big name of the bunch comes from Corrosiona Coformity with
their first album in a long long time, that eight years.
It's the double album that we've been anticipating for a
while called Good God Slash Bad Man. Then there is
the return of Sun the Drone metal legends. They've got
a self titled record. There is also Poison Ruin, who
are the really great like dungeon punk type band. This
is their second or third full length album, Hymns from
the Hills is out. There is lant Loos with Nowhere
in Between Forever. Lantlos one of the kind of early
twenty tens black gaze pioneers. We have reviewed Lantlos before,
and on the last Lantlet's record which we reviewed, kind
of turned away from black gaze into sounding a bit
more like arcane roots and Biffy Kleiro and like that
world of like slightly math rooted leaning bat that might
be ringing a bell somewhere. I don't know if this
new album is still kind of in that vein. Cover wise,
I would suggest probably more that than very black metal,
but that's the vibe there if you are wanting some
old school SCRAMs, just very very screamo produced by Jack
Shirley of course, you know a pivotal figure in that
world at the moment. There's a band called Numers with
Directions in the kind of indie rock and punk leaning
world and the nice punk. There's a Masca with Love
Letters and also Lava Love with tan lines straightforward thrash metal.
There is Nevosa from South America with Slave Machine. Also
in the hardcore world, there's a band called Commitment with
an album called Fear of which features some members of
Sotglow I know are involved with this Jarbo, the you
know experimental music icon. You know it has worked with
Swan's and all these type bands. Sightings is her solo
record that is out today. And finally there is the
album called Volume two from Angeene Dipoatrine, who are the
microtonal math rock band who you might have seen have
kind of gone semi viral in the last like two weeks,
two three weeks for their you know, their their guys
and their manner of appearance. But interesting, I've been, you know,
investigating this over the past couple of days and I'm
and I'm intrigued, So I'll check out the new Engine
Dipuatrine record. They are like the I say, microtonal sleep
paralysis Demons is basically how they would appear. Maybe we'll
talk about that more. I don't know anyway. That is
finally the end of this here hyperblasters your releases for
the last two days. Whole bunch of news there, and yeah,
take care of yourselves, everybody. It feels like one of
those weeks where that just feels like it should be
more important to reaffirm and say so look after yourselves,
be kind to yourselves. We'll be back next week and
we hope to see there. Thanks everybody, Bye bye,