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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to That's Not Mettal and we are

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here this Friday for another edition of Hyperblast. We had

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our big reviews bag last week when we tackled the

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likes of New Neurosis, New Poison, the Wells, some crazy

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stuff happening in the world of new heavy music. Today

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we're back with our weekly news show. My name is

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Parenhirsh with me to do. This is Sam Dignon and

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following up on a crazy week last week, this is

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another one of those weeks where every which way of

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things you can imagine happening has kind of happened just today,

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you know, on the Thursday, as we were recording, we

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have had really good news, really awful news, and fucking

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mental news, so unavoidably as much as any I can

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remember doing. Really, this is gonna be a bit of

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a tonal whiplash episode potentially, so bear with us as

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we navigate this. We have got a big gig that

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we were both at this week to talk about, and

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I was gonna arrive to you know, some of the

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shit stuff a little bit later, but then about like

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forty five minutes before we started recording this, a third

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piece of just the really shit.

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Speaker 2: News just hit right on us.

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't quite feel right to have that, I

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don't know, hanging over the rest of the episode, and

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I feel we've got to address that first. So we're

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going to tackle this in a slightly unconventional order and

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that we're going to start with some news, then we're

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gonna chat about our weekend, and then we're gonna get

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back to the news. But I think from there you

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can tell where the tone of where we're beginning is

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gonna be. Earlier in the week. First of all, if

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we're just gonna you know, Ross the Boss, the guitarist

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of classic era man O War, we are talking peak

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the nineteen eighties man O War run that they made

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their absolute legend of and you know, absolutely do not

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get it twisted. Man of War in their peak eighties

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run are one of the most I would say, even

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subtly influential bands in the history of metal in that

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I am guaranteed right now that there are many people

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listening to me saying this who don't like Man of War,

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don't listen to mana War, could never even imagine listening

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to mana War. But they're one of those cases, a

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bit like Kiss where even if you don't love them,

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someone you love loves them. And the amount of music

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that is out there right now that we are all

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enjoying week upon week that would not be the same

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if it wasn't for Roster Boss's contributions to that incredible

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run of man o War records. If you have heard,

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for example, our album Club we did on Battle Hymns

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last year, you know that I really, truly, genuinely love

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everything to do with that incredible run of man of

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War records. Ross the Boss passed away earlier this week.

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He was also a member of The Dictators. They like classic,

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you know, mid seventies punk band. So when we're talking

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about some of the you know, like really like legit

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punk roots of where a band like Man of War

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and the kind of working class head metal movement you know,

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came out of we are talking like, you know, mid

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seventies New York, the birthplace of punk is to where

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Ross the Boss from Manuar was involved with and a

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genuine you know this is coming off the back of

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course Phil Campbell, you know, a week or two ago,

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another of those genuine formative legend figures I think for

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the worlds of heavy metal Sam you are. You know,

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Manor Warrior, but certainly in recent times we have enjoyed

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some Man of War together and Ross the Boss Man

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o War were definitely at their best when Ross the

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Speaker 2: Is how this is?

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now I'm now familiar with.

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Speaker 2: He just one of the like properly legit.

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Speaker 3: Heavy metal guitarists, the riffs, the solos, like he had

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it all and again, like you were saying about like

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the influence of Man of War. I found out about

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this when Miller dedicated a song to Ross the Boss.

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the context of that, and then I was like fuck it.

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like that that kind of tells you when like creating,

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you know, legendary fresh band, they're like they're there patriots

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a matter of war. His influence is like heavy metal,

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and as you say, him coming from punk scene, that

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adds a fir legitimacy of that again every man route

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and then kind of becoming a legend from that, it's

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Speaker 2: He did alone.

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Speaker 1: He was Ross the Boss.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, He's you're gonna you're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna say that kind of guy, like that guy I

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mean means business. Yeah, No, this was this was not

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on that again, super close to.

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Speaker 2: Me as we're gonna get onto one of the other.

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real important loss.

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Speaker 3: And even I on the way back, I spun about

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him because I was like, that guy is legit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sad that I never saw Ross the Boss

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playing live, because he played Bloodstock a few years ago.

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playing those those incredible songs that he had such an

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amazing part of. So I think it's only appropriate in

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this case to give the most eternal of hailes to

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Ross the motherfucking Boss from The Mighty Man of War.

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news that James Lola, aka the synth wave artist Ghost

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has passed away. And this is just a real you know,

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out of the Blue not a piece of news that

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we were expecting. But Ghost amongst the you know, the

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synth wave, you know crop of artists who really started

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gaining traction in kind of the you know, the early

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: Ghost was a you know, a favorite of mine. They

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would return to and I would spin, particularly around a

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record like Possessor, I remember bringing onto the show. We

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reviewed a handful of Ghost records over the years on

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the show, and records like that one where in terms

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of the you know, the kind of the crossover of

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the synthwave thing into the metal scene, some of the

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was most intense and most felt. And I, you know,

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music in that in that vein really like, you know,

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you know this just really seems sudden, but yeah, really

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like takes on that that symp wave thing, and you're right,

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which wagon he was when I was always like not

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out of the blue and was like, man, that's a

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real underground kind of cool artist who was doing something

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Speaker 2: But yeah, a real shocking and tragic shame. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the tributes have come out today from

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the likes of you know, Perturbator or Health or Carpenter

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or whatever. I think he was absolutely an integral part

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of you know, that that community. And then, like I

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said right before, we've come here, if you you know,

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if our voices feel a little bit shaken or whatever.

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Speaking of fucking sudden news, Bo Luders, the guitarist of

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become very well known to people who aren't even harms

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Way fans, who would never have even picked up a

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Harm's Way record, through being one of the co hosts

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of the hard Law podcast Hard Law Podcast. I'm sure

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become you know, the almost like the cultural voice, if

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the the the archivists of the hardcore scene, and you know,

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as that is one of the most pivotal and prominent

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scenes in our world right now, they have become so

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almost like the being on the battlements of that movement.

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from Harmsway and Hard Law has also left us is

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so fucking shit. I can barely begin to touch on

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on how that feels. Because Harm's Way the band one

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of my favorites in the modern, you know, contemporary hardcore scene.

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like super heavy, industrial, lith hardcore, brilliant live like I

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recent modern hardcore scene. Just like the way he would

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that kind of thing, like he was a conduit for that.

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the kind of like like I said, it's been all

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about uplifting hardcore and kind of like championing the best bands,

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the best music. Like they they they're at every festival,

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they are pushing stuff and they're just trying to spread

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positive through genre and kind of just a love for

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it through all different ears of it. But it was

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of it, but levity in the enjoyment of it. And

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this was just a real like this has the news

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just completely like hit hard out of nowhere. And yeah,

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like like say the members of Harm's Way like hard

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or everyone like close to it. This is going to

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be such a loss to the hardcore scene and like

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their generation of hardcore. But I think Hard Law, you know,

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almost want to, like, you know, distance myself from the

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you know, the stuff that's going on there. Something like

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the hard Law podcast and the way they spoke about

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it and the band that they'll be bringing to the table,

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and that kind of thing is something that was like

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a counteracting force to those thoughts, you know, keeping me

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absolutely you know, interested and plugged in, and because as

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you say, it felt fun and friendly and just like

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you know, they celebrate things, they're enthusiastic about things in

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the way that we try to be. And obviously Bo,

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you know, week on week, along with Colin as the

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two faces of it, being such an integral part of that.

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you know, hard law listener in the way that you

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know many of you will probably listen to Week on

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week every podcast, right, obviously we might might be there

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amongst them, but you get to know, and you become

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fond of the voices, and you become fond of the characters.

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even if you've never spoken to or met them, because

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you know, I never spoke to or met Bo at

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the two Hard Law guys, but he was a voice

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and a character who I really enjoyed. And it's unavoidable

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not feeling some sense of like actual personal loss when

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someone that you engage with on that level week upon

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week is just so fucking cruelly you know, taken away

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like this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so many just moments what he just seemed

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like the sort guy like you just sim of the

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course guy hanging around with Like there was the Halloween

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hard episode from when Danzig He's Dragon.

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Speaker 2: I was like, that's that's when you know this guy

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just fucking rocks.

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Speaker 3: But you can watch any of their like interviews they

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do with band members, bracket specials, that anything like that.

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They are so knowledgeable, like they're an encyclopedia of hardcore history.

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And then they're getting like bams from all kinds of

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like not just hardcore, from metal, from punk and kind

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of just bring them onto these amazing interviews like the

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Davy Havoc one from last year is incredible, that Jeremy

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Balm won from two sche more recently, like is like

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true special And that's when they just were like lifting

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up and kind of like telling these stories and it

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was all about like the music and the culture and

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and it was the celebration of that and that I

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said that just that that positive contribution. And again and

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there's hogs that can be toxic. There's like I common Markle,

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I love it. There is a toxic targle that that

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in the same way it can be off putting, but

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hardcore kind of like brush that to one side and

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kind of like trying to make it working for everyone

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and kind of celebrating, you know, recently celebrating that, like

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younger fans are picking up Crowbar records and stuff like that,

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Like they're all about just sort of spreading the love

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for it.

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Speaker 2: And it is just like this feel that one of

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the team is like gone. Now. Yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to know what to say beyond that, certainly,

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but you know everyone who all friends of bo bandmates, family,

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you know, members of the hard Law team whatever, And

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of course the same goes for you know, James from

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Ghost and even you know, of course Ross the Boss

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the Legend. Just one of those weeks seemingly where you know,

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these these dominoes kept falling but fucking just such brutal,

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shitty news that, like I said, I felt we need

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to get to that up top really to you know,

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say what's on our minds, I suppose, But yeah, just

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absolutely eternal, massive respect to all those names that we've

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mentioned there. As I said, the two of us, we

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were going to come in here all guns blazing about

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the fact that we had you know, both jointed. We

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had been to what feels like one of the big

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metal tours of the year in the Creator with Carcass,

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Exodus and Nails. I mean speaking of another great you

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know hard lore interview they did right, the tod Jones

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weren't however, Yeah, fucking fucking great. You know, all these

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names just always always around there doing great stuff. But

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that that touring package came through the UK and you

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know what it was announced like last year or whatever

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it was we were talking about. It feels like there

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are certain just big bills that come through that sit

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in our mind and we remember as like particularly great

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night outs, whether it be the you know, the Kajira

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Code Orange car Bomb, the you know, the Trivium Code

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Orange Power Trip, like these kind of hued proper package

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like it's so great. Obviously it is great to have

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opening bands who maybe you don't know, maybe you can

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discover something, but there is something also special about walking

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into a gig at six pm leaving it at eleven

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pm and you haven't heard a single band who you

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don't absolutely love. And certainly for me with these four bands,

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that that was the case of that and this felt

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the most like one of those bills in a while.

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You went to Brixton Academy. I went to the Manchester Apollo.

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I know that you also then had a little extra

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treats at the end, which we'll get to at the end.

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But the main big Creator Tour, particularly considering you know Creator,

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we're talking you know, a big game about bringing a

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bigger production and that kind of thing, and they have,

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you know, over the years, certainly the last few years,

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become a bigger and bigger deal and a bigger live draw.

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This felt like one of the as said, the metal

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events of the year this this night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you know that that package is like real

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kind of likely the way like that's not you know,

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just one big spot and then two monyment. This is

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like free like properly no name sports, like two legendary

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supports in their own right like that. That's that's how

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bigger deal. This was like really sort of big big business.

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So like I said, when you're turning up ultimate the

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bricks and at like six pm and I'm like, nails

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are about to come on, fucking nails like the hardest

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band I'm gonna start this at six pm, that is

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like that is ridiculous that that's a silly time and

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then you know, I like the thing with this for

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me as well is I've never seen Extra So or Carcass,

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So this had that that extra kind of excitement of like.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy that you've never seen Carcass because I see

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them every.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a particularly big Exters fan.

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Speaker 3: I've listened to in their entirety two Extous albums, which

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is the first one and the last one, and then

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I've heard bits in pieces in between, but and they've

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been at like blood Soort when I've been there and

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I've just kind of watched something else, So like, I

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like I'm a bit more casual in the Extras front

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Carcass there is there's not an excuse I should have

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seen Carcass, but this was like a real just something

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and I've made good on that. Now we're by doubling up,

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but yes, like yeah, so walking in and nails are

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like ripping bricks are opening with suffering soul. The first

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time you hear at like twenty past six on a

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Friday evening, for me is suffering soul. That kind of

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sets the tone for like it's just gonna be a

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good night. This is gonna be a good night the

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vibes are right now's a group of suffering soul. Oh

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and now you've got lacking the inly ability to process empathy.

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I'm having the time of my life right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really good to get to see Nails again,

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comparatively quickly from the last time. You know, they played

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with a Damnation before last, so about fifteen months or something.

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At the last time we saw Nails, Obviously we raved

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about fucking the big big room, you know, Nails Pyro

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Show and all that. Seeing them in what felt like,

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you know, a somewhat similarly at least Sar used you

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know thing, It's like, am I just gonna is this

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gonna be forever? How I see Nails now? Like, because

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I know that you've had the smaller experience. Now I'm

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just like, I am becoming weirdly, you know, used to

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seeing Nails playing big venues and considering they are, you know,

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ostensibly a power Violets or a grindcore band. They do

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certainly with the more midpace songs, they fill the fucking space.

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So you know, you mentioned lacking the ability to process empathy,

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and like when they get to wide open Wound and

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I don't know, if I could ever hear the intro

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of that song and not have like a bit of

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a chill, you know, run down my spine. But those

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like the the fucking like roll over you slowly Nail songs, yeah,

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sounding fucking huge, and so to strike endless resistance later

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on as well, Todd continually seemingly having the fucking time

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of his life.

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Speaker 3: Like it's really endearing that Todd Jones seems to actually

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just love being in Nails now. He seems to love

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playing live, like and I know, obviously I never saw it,

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but that that kind of element of danger was one

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of the like the exciting things of Nails go around one,

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but also it clearly was unsustainable. He's now kind of

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like off on that stage, kind of be like metal

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front man Todd Jones.

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Speaker 2: Jeing the crowd up, being like, yeah, this is the

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best crowd, come on, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got the two fists in the air, the

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classic Todd's stance. In Manchester, he did he was like,

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who saw us here for Danne for Damnation festival and

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he was like, we want to come back. If the

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people who book Damnation are here, please book us again.

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She was like, you know, also in dearI because he's

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clearly had a good time. He did say that they're

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coming back later in the.

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Speaker 2: Year, so yeah, said that as well.

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Speaker 1: So headline tour or something that'd be lovely. But yeah,

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fucking brilliant nail set as you could imagine opening the thing.

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Speaker 3: My only two of you never be one of us

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into perfect perfect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I was surprised at is they didn't

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play give Me the Painkiller, which I thought, not not

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only as a single from you know your the latest record,

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but when you're playing to a thrash metal crowd, you're

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at a thrash show, why are you not doing like

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the most thrashtastic speed metally song you have. I don't

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know why that seemed to disappear, but otherwise, you know,

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bring it back when you come back later in the year, certainly,

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but otherwise, just fucking nails in it. Brilliant Exodus. Considering

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you said you know your your casual enjoyer and you've

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never seen them live, I've seen Exodus plenty of times.

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The story here is that they've got Rob Dukes back

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into the band, who have had three front men really

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who have almost like tagged in and swapped out at

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various points that even Paul Bayloff came back for a

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tiny old period. But Rob Dukes was their front man

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during the mid two thousands up to like the early

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twenty tens, and now he's just rejoined the band. They're

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just about of their new record, which I mentioned last

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week it was on our review schedule, and just my

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brief little take on the new record. I think it's

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good fun. I think it is. You know, it's not

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as like fully at it ravenous as even like the

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mid two thousand stuff with Rob Dukes, like shuffle Headed

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kill Machine is a fucking brilliant, really rippin' record. This

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isn't as you know, fast and heavy and all that

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as that is and every modern day exous album is

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about ten to fifteen minutes too long for what it is.

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But I think it's decent. They played I think it

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was two songs from it, which was the opening track

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three one one one and then another song called Goliath.

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The Goliath song was the one point where they're momentum

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of the set completely stalled because it's like the slow song. Yeah, yeah,

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I think it's a decent track on record, really, but

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like probably not the one to dump them, but otherwise

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around that, Exodus, particularly if you've got them in a

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forty five minutes a lot or whatever, are a wicked

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greatest hits bands when it comes to They've got songs

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from the mid two thousands that people are going to

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go off for, like Death Anthetamine, which is from the

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record I just mentioned fucking crazy song Blacklist as well,

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which if you're in a metal crowd that knows the

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words to Blacklist, is just really fun. And then they

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also of course have the eighties classics to lean on from,

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Bonded by Blood and like the the Circle Pit Anthem

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in the Toxic Waltz. Right, So they are they They've

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always said that Exodus are one of the thrash bands

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who are continually just very fun to see live. And

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even as someone who you know again kind of only

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knows a bit of the material, really you have fun

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with Exodus, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Were great fun.

478
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Speaker 3: Deaf Amfetamine when they put out was like second like

479
00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:48,640
that that got the crowd properly going like there was

480
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,279
definitely kind of like a lot of reverence Rexus.

481
00:22:51,319 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: I did have my like I mentioned did You Earnier?

482
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: But my funny mental was like, oh yeah, Gary Holt

483
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,759
from Slayer plays in Exodus and I was like slightly

484
00:22:57,799 --> 00:22:58,480
wrong way around that.

485
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it was just a funny yeah.

486
00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: And Gary Gary Holt is one of those guitarists who

487
00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:06,960
just his energy for playing guitar is infectious.

488
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he always looks fucking cool up on stage.

489
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: Rob Dukes is this big burly dude kind of running

490
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,119
about shouting, having a good time. Like they had a

491
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,960
very infectious energy access that did kind of make this

492
00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:19,799
really enjoyable.

493
00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:23,799
Speaker 2: I do agree the the Glass track of the new album. Again,

494
00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:24,680
I quite like the new album.

495
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,279
Speaker 3: I thought it like from modern fresh album from like

496
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,960
a legacy band, better than a lot of those sort

497
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,400
of things. Do not quite as good as like what

498
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,359
Creators turns off an now, but still of a good standard.

499
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,680
That song just because it's a slower song, it just

500
00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:39,559
it stunted the momentum a little bit, but it didn't,

501
00:23:39,599 --> 00:23:41,160
you know, derail the set by any means, and the

502
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,599
crowds not a lot of the cards still seem to

503
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,000
be fairly into it. But you know, just yeah, forty

504
00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:47,440
five minute kind of like frash set of hits with

505
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,640
a sprinkling of new stuff.

506
00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,799
Speaker 2: Perfect for sort of like your second on band on

507
00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:52,279
this type of.

508
00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: Package exactly, and you know, if you're interested in again

509
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,039
sort of modern sounding exos like I say, shove, we

510
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,839
had a kill Machine. The first one was Rob Dukes

511
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,720
Rips Tempo of the Damned, the first one they kind

512
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,319
of came back Rips. They've got like actual hits from

513
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,839
the two thousands era to sprinkle in, so it's not

514
00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:11,160
all weighted on the bonded by blood. But then of

515
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,519
course when they whip out Striker the Beast, right, it's

516
00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:15,480
just it's perfect flash metal is what it's all about.

517
00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:18,400
So yeah, a perfect as theid lead into the rest

518
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,599
of the event. Carcass. I have spoken about Carcass live

519
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,680
many times, so I am curious instead to throw to

520
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,759
you as your your first time seeing as a very

521
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:33,359
regular sight in these parts, but one of the you know,

522
00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:36,559
most legendary essential extreme metal bands of all time.

523
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Carcass were great.

524
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:41,759
Speaker 3: They go very much, I mean on on the two

525
00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:43,240
shows of Sword the Bridge said were they only had

526
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,440
again like forty five fifty minutes. They were very locked

527
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,799
in and they're just ripping through these songs. But man,

528
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,359
what a sex a song. Is like heavy, but like

529
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,920
that technical or something like the melodic guitar bits and

530
00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:55,880
carcas when they pull those out and the crowd are

531
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,960
like singing along some of the guitar lines, and she's.

532
00:24:57,839 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: Like that, that's that's great.

533
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,759
Speaker 3: Do Like it was like they just look like they

534
00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:04,599
should be in it, like four blokes and a dad

535
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,000
rock band on that stage. It is like a very

536
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,680
funny sort of thing, but they're like I had like

537
00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:11,279
ridical backs when like the screens behind them sort of

538
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:15,000
showing like medical procedures yea, or it's very sort.

539
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: Of They have a very particular If you've seen Carcass

540
00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:21,720
enough time, you'll know what I mean. They own the

541
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:25,039
kind of medical green stage lighting, like that shade of

542
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,319
green that you will have seen. That's every Carcass show

543
00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:31,119
they have specifically attuned their stage lighting to be hospital green.

544
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,000
I hope that that's a touch where I see that

545
00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:36,640
color and the associated with seeing Carcass life.

546
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, I was like God, because they did

547
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,440
the exact same with the under one. I was like, yeah,

548
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,480
that they do it every show ever. Yeah, it's what

549
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:43,680
they do.

550
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,559
Speaker 3: It's in with like obviously like the feming on the

551
00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:49,440
bad like I said, there'st of the screens they had

552
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,119
like showing the like bodies being cut off and all

553
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,839
that sort of stuff.

554
00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: It's very much.

555
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,079
Speaker 3: Kind of like you're you're still getting a show from Carcass,

556
00:25:57,079 --> 00:25:59,440
where like it felt like I was like, oh, yeah,

557
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,000
this is the main this isn't the headline is one

558
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,319
brings with like the crowd being so kind of like

559
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:06,359
hanging off of Carcass sort of the entire time, really

560
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,400
like getting into it and just having a great time.

561
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,559
Speaker 2: And like I said, like.

562
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 3: Like I'm not as simple with all the attract there

563
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,039
was enoughing that set that I know I was like,

564
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:17,680
oh yeah, I know these ones and was having.

565
00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: A really fun time watching them. Yeah.

566
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean they they lock in sets. So again, if

567
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,440
you've seen Carcass regularly, particularly if it is a support

568
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,000
slot that they only have a certain amount of songs

569
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,119
to do, it's they're on those bands where I can

570
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,680
kind of you know, I can tell and I can

571
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,559
know the running order of setless and that kind of thing.

572
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,200
But they lock in sets really interesting and that they

573
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,680
transition between songs and like one will stop and they

574
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,480
will seems yeah, but they'll do it between songs that

575
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,440
are completely different, feeling so like unfit for human consumption.

576
00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:45,880
The opener, which was I think the one track they

577
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,640
played from Surgical Steel at the you know, the support slot,

578
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,519
and also like you know, me and my mato as

579
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:53,680
with just like at one point just started like turning

580
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,519
and singing the guitar solo of that song to each

581
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:58,000
other because it's Surgical Steel. We've been listening to that

582
00:26:58,039 --> 00:26:59,759
for like thirteen years, you know, it's a classic. But

583
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:02,480
from that into Bury Dreams from Heartwork, which is a

584
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,839
totally different tempo, but the like you know, switch in

585
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,559
from one to another, they just do like that. The

586
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:09,279
weird thing about the show that I saw at Manchester

587
00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:12,119
is Dan, who is Carcass's drummer since you know the

588
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,200
surg calls Steel Era, wasn't there for that one night

589
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:16,519
and I was like, oh, I wonder where Dan is.

590
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:18,440
And then I looked and he was there at the

591
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,920
show that you were at, and he was back for

592
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,039
the Underworld show. So for some reason, for one night only,

593
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:27,440
seemingly Dan couldn't make it and they had and they

594
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,359
had val Terry, who is the new drummer for Opeth,

595
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,880
was filling in for that and Jeff mentioned he was

596
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,920
like he's done this without rehearsals, like he's just turned

597
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,000
up for a day seemingly and fucking nailed a whole carcasset,

598
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:42,640
which was so brilliant, and you know Jeff having his

599
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:44,400
very dry humor as well. There was one point where

600
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:46,200
he was like holding his base up to the sky

601
00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:48,160
and he was I think waiting for val Terry to

602
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,440
hit a certain queue and he waited like slightly too

603
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,319
long and he went, come on, you work with Akafelt now,

604
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:55,720
which is just like a great little little bit like he.

605
00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 3: Was ribbon on again Jo they had for the Underworld show.

606
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,160
They clearly got a good band and his stage pattern,

607
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,039
like again limited as it was, was very funny. He's

608
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000
very funny in that dry humor there was there were

609
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:08,920
like a few bits he did was very much like

610
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:10,079
not bad for a bunch.

611
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: Of Southerners and stuff like.

612
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: That, but like he's very again just like bloke up

613
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,559
on stage having a bit of a laugh. But like

614
00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:21,359
they sounded incredible and again Brixton support band sound can.

615
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,079
Speaker 2: Always be very iffy.

616
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,519
Speaker 3: For carcass it was like crystal clear, so like when

617
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:30,000
you're getting those hard work guitar melodies coming in like you.

618
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: Get it all spot on. Yeah.

619
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,599
Speaker 1: I was surprised that there was no keep on Rotting

620
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,839
in the Free World in our set, because that's such

621
00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:40,519
a carcass staple. But I believe, as I believe it,

622
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:43,160
it seems to have come back for the other show

623
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,920
that you saw. Creator then you know, big headline attraction

624
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,960
for this the in the new album you know, Crushers

625
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,119
of the World came out earlier this year. We reviewed

626
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,720
it and Creator have I know that this time they

627
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,440
obviously have the support in depth, the strength of such

628
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,279
a great bill behind them, but Creator having you know,

629
00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:08,000
climbed up over the years from being a you know,

630
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:10,160
I don't want to say an awsort round thrashband because

631
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,480
they have always been legendary, but commercially they weren't always

632
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,400
punching on the level that they are now to now

633
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,000
seemingly reliably be being like, yeah, we are gonna go

634
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,920
We're gonna play Bricks and Academy, We're gonna play Vendus

635
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,920
like the Apollo in Manchester. We can headline festivals that

636
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,240
Bloodstock or whatever. And this set not only did they

637
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,720
bring you know, the attraction for that, but it also

638
00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:34,079
was weighted rather heavily on you know, twenty first century material.

639
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,559
Let's talk about the stage sho a little bit first,

640
00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:37,000
because again, this is what a lot has.

641
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,359
Speaker 2: Been made of.

642
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: It was just a big old metal show in the

643
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,839
way that you expect from Creator. I think maybe some

644
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:46,240
people have slightly over est, you know, overstated the amount

645
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,880
of like Pyro for example. Like it wasn't like a

646
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,640
parkway drive for example. Right, there were set songs where

647
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,319
they would blastom fire off, but that's always very welcome

648
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,000
at a big evil metal show. They had a giant

649
00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:00,640
like demon head behind them on you know, behind the

650
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,200
drum riser. The drum riser itself was like a big

651
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,880
demon head horn. Yeah, they had like big demon heads,

652
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,480
you know, this kind of creator a masket guy on

653
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:10,599
either side of the stage. I think there was like

654
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:14,200
sort of like severed head props hanging from like millers

655
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:19,279
might stand. So it's just it's all out, you know, visually,

656
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,240
just like this is the most metal thing that could

657
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,640
possibly happen, and a Creator set list is not going

658
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,599
to deviate from that, is it.

659
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:26,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

660
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,039
Speaker 3: No, this is this is like I say, this is

661
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:31,279
just like unashamedly metal, where you've got like to say,

662
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,279
the giant demon had back on that that kind of

663
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:36,480
looked like the mask from the movie Demons. It will

664
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,640
kind of give me that vie. I was like, I

665
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,319
was getting that to be. But like big horned demon

666
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,799
drum riser, two giant demon lads either side of the

667
00:30:43,839 --> 00:30:47,160
stage like begin this the show like project of vagillity,

668
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:50,279
Like they're all kind of just like gruses or things.

669
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:52,960
They had their like minions come out at various points

670
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,240
and like goblin masks do like to just hold torches,

671
00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:57,680
had wings at one point.

672
00:30:58,039 --> 00:30:59,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen that before.

673
00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:03,079
Speaker 3: My favorite was during phantom Antic Crises where they had

674
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:05,799
like the burning human effigies on stage as well.

675
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: That that just looked I was like.

676
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: You don't get this at not metal gigs. It's like

677
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,759
it's a unique flavor that sometimes you have to be

678
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:17,119
at the most metal of metal shows to see this

679
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,440
sort of shit, and it's such a welcome, welcome part

680
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:20,680
of it.

681
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I said, it just it brings me

682
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:26,960
joy to see creator, you know, regularly kind of greeted

683
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:29,799
as the like all time metal legends, you know, for

684
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,519
decades and decades they have been that that I certainly

685
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:37,119
think they are setless wise. You know, the new album

686
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,680
Crush of the World I mentioned when we reviewed it.

687
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,119
I think it's a you know, a good fun album.

688
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,200
It is for me, the lowest punching of like the

689
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:47,319
twenty first century Creator records. And there were you know,

690
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:48,759
a couple of songs that they played from it where

691
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:50,319
I went, yeah, I can can't almost take or leave

692
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,039
this one for me, like when it really like hit stride.

693
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:55,200
So they opened seven Serpents, which is a good song,

694
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:56,880
you know, but when they got to like Enemy of

695
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,400
God three songs in, which is a fucking classic, and

696
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,319
then in to Satanic Anarchy, which is the one from

697
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:04,279
the new record where I'm like, that is an absolute

698
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,440
live banger.

699
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,279
Speaker 2: Their stand.

700
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: Like that feels like classic Creator in that way, and

701
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,200
then we whip through you know HATI Berrallas kind of

702
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,559
you know, greatest hits really from you know, the twenty

703
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:21,640
first century Creator ensemble. So Chaos Satan is real, Phantom

704
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,920
anti Christ, all present and correct, but with those splashings

705
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,640
of you know, the new songs like Crushes of the World,

706
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,640
the title track, which, as we mentioned on review it

707
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,680
that feels like big essentially like you meat headed slow

708
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,839
metal groover. That's they feel like they're very much at

709
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:39,599
the stage where they're writing songs for the live set,

710
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:40,200
if you know what I mean.

711
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:42,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, Crush of the World is on that

712
00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:44,799
that that that feels made for us. But you can

713
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,160
get like Satanic Anarchy is the fast when you put

714
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,200
in the live set. Crushes of the World is the

715
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,920
mid teen post on sing a long you put in

716
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,440
the live set kind of They they they cover both

717
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,759
those grounds nicely, going into hordes of chaos. I'm never

718
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,240
ever not gonna just get so hyped up when I hear.

719
00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: That DN.

720
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:03,799
Speaker 3: That that intro, I'm like, right here we go high

721
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:06,279
out the set for me. I love that song so much.

722
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:09,559
It's just such a banger say things, you know, big

723
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:12,720
sing alongs, like they just nail the kind of like

724
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:14,599
pushing part between. I'm gonna have a single one with

725
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,200
this one. I'm gonna bang my head to this one.

726
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,799
People are gonna run around in circles this one. It's

727
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,599
a real just kind of like let's say, grazings great said,

728
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,559
but grace. It's what a fresh metal, heavy metal kind

729
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:27,599
of live show should be. And that's why I think

730
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,039
just so like immensely enjoyable live.

731
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was having so much fun front to back.

732
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:34,759
I will say this is the maybe the first Creator

733
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,839
show I've been to where I felt myself missing things

734
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:41,039
that I used to get creative shows because the set

735
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:45,119
list was so heavily leaning on you, not even deep

736
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,559
album cuts from them, but essentially it was the set

737
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:51,359
list was comprised of like the flagship singles of all

738
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,200
the twenty first century records. So as you said, your

739
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,440
Phantomagic Grows song was Fantomatic grass, Your Heart to Chaos

740
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,680
song is Hordes of Chaos, Your God's Violent song is

741
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,799
Satan is real. That kind of deal and the only

742
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,720
kind of you know, dipping back into ye olden days

743
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,079
when I sort of do think Creator in their prime

744
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,039
in the eighties are like a classic flash band. We

745
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:11,559
had like, you know, Betrayer from Extreme Aggression title track

746
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:13,639
of Pleasure to Kill obviously, and they played like half

747
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:14,480
of Endless.

748
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,159
Speaker 2: Pain, which was cool.

749
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: But I found myself, you know, I'm glad I started

750
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,480
to see Creator when I did more in like the

751
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:21,760
twenty tens, because I'm thinking about the shows and being like, yeah,

752
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,000
like we would get like under the guillotine dropping and

753
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:26,840
you know, Tormentor and these kind of things. And I

754
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,840
guess it's they had less albums at that time, but

755
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,280
the settlers felt a lot more spread between like the

756
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,159
eighties stuff and you know, the modern Stuffy didn't even

757
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,239
play Phobia for example this time from the nineties, which

758
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,280
I noticed that, Yeah.

759
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: Because last time I saw them was when they were

760
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,840
doing like an intimate show in Brighton, so they did

761
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,639
you know, sprinkling. Yeah, a lot more sort of deeper

762
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,039
cuts and not cuts, but like stuff like Phobia and

763
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:50,079
not just the kind of like monster.

764
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,559
Speaker 2: So I see. I mean like maybe this is one

765
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:53,519
where they will.

766
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: Cycle back into that and yeah tour they will cycle

767
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,239
backed in sort of your newer stuff, and this is

768
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,599
you know, they want to put forward the new album

769
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,360
alongside then you know, the hits and wants to hear.

770
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: But I do see where you're coming from.

771
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:07,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it was essentially right for this

772
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:09,119
one because this time, I said, production wise, they were

773
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:11,800
putting forward this is like the big essentially what they're

774
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,599
going to bring around to festivals, right, and these are

775
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:16,639
the festival metal bangers that they do. But like they

776
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:19,000
did that Maryland Deathfest show last year where they did

777
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:21,159
it was like all extremely aggression, you know, pleasure to kill,

778
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:22,639
like early stuff, you know, and they kind of feel

779
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:25,239
a little bit more segmented these days, I suppose, and

780
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,639
like when they lean on that stuff and when they

781
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,559
lean on newer stuff. I mean, like, you know, for example,

782
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,639
there was a girl next to me who looked like

783
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:33,039
she was you know, like late teens, early twenties maybe,

784
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,360
and they were playing Betrayer and she was enjoying it,

785
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,199
and then they played Crushes of the World after that,

786
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,400
and when they started actually like screamed, so like clearly

787
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,039
you know, the newer generation Creator fans very thoroughly plugged.

788
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,599
Speaker 2: Into the new stuff.

789
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:48,639
Speaker 1: Yeah what is coming out, And that's great, and I

790
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:50,360
think it was right for it. I just did find

791
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,480
myself being like, man, I would love the little bit

792
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,400
of surprise of remembering when they would drop like under

793
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,239
the guillotine and like our friend James would fall over

794
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,440
and shock and these kind of like things that need

795
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,159
to happen. And yeah, if they come around at some

796
00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:05,679
point and they do sprinkle some of that stuff more

797
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,360
back in, then I'm very for it. But as the

798
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,559
you know, big metal party with the stage show the hits,

799
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:15,400
which it is you know, pretty NonStop, certainly to match

800
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,639
create off one of the sickest, you know, big metal

801
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:20,840
show live bands that's currently going around, and it's great

802
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,199
see them again continuing to succeed. So well, you your little

803
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,480
Jammy so and so got the extra bonus of a

804
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:34,159
surprise show at the London Underworld being announced headlined by

805
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,920
Carcass with Nails and Support off date from this and

806
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,800
so you've got to see both of those two bands

807
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,840
again in a perhaps more their own territory kind of setting.

808
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,360
So obviously we've covered both bands here already, but like,

809
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,000
was that an extra fun experience?

810
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: So this is the now show I've wanted to see.

811
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:53,880
I bought my tickets for this as Carcass were taking

812
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,880
to the stage. Let's get us, let's get this locked

813
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,320
in now. But yeah, Nails so like support stop, but

814
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,480
they had forty five minutes, which meant they played like

815
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:05,280
twenty songs. So that's a Nails Headlines set as far

816
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,199
as I'm concerned.

817
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: Sure, and this is my one of the week of

818
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:08,920
the set of this sort of thing.

819
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: While I was like, I'm in there, I'm down the front,

820
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:15,079
I'm climbing up like Rightfid Todd Jones shouting suffering soul,

821
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:21,159
but god like Nails in this setting was just destructive,

822
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,960
Like the pit were like people like properly throwing down

823
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,280
hard going out and like tearing chunks out of each other.

824
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,559
Still no give me the pain killer, So you didn't,

825
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:32,400
so like, yeah, that was of fro the blow at

826
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,639
least a little bit that they've they clearly just cycled

827
00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:36,239
it out of the set list for this run for

828
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,000
whatever reason, maybe just does not feeling going that fast

829
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:43,000
of it. But I said, like twenty Nail songs, like

830
00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:45,239
you're just getting some of the most destructive stuff, a

831
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,400
good like chunk of like I think it was all.

832
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,039
Speaker 2: Album's basically got like five or so songs from them, the.

833
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: Abandal life stuff like that sounded devastating in the underworld.

834
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,199
That was when I was like, Jesus fucking crist I

835
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,800
forget this album might be the heaviest album and sometimes

836
00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:01,800
it looks.

837
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Like setless wise compared to you know, the main tour.

838
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:06,480
You essentially you had a run of like six songs

839
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:08,800
added into the middle of it, and part of that

840
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,719
run is in Exodus Tyrant, So just that was.

841
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: The in the middle.

842
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: I was like, my head is getting like saved in

843
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,000
right now, but again Todd Jones still just really actually

844
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,719
gonna love and being on stage like like both in

845
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,239
the egg, like getting the crowd riled up and just

846
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,800
having a great fun time. Like even though between the

847
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,559
song you started playing a bit of carcass, just kind

848
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:30,239
of like have a bit fun with the crowd. It

849
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,400
was like that you'll get the real deal in a minute,

850
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,079
don't worry. But yeah, it was a really fun kind

851
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:37,239
of sound. I was like, yeah, this is this is

852
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,199
the setting on Nails and you know, I don't know

853
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,880
to be the only one anymore, but it just felt

854
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,639
like the right place to see Nails and like as

855
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:44,800
a lineup like a free piece.

856
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: Now Is Live Now.

857
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: They look so fucking cool on stage. They are like

858
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,159
going at it so hard. The go from warming, isn't.

859
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 2: It Carlos Cruz like he is.

860
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:56,199
Speaker 3: So good and when the under one artis you kind

861
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,360
of like seeing just how hard he is playing.

862
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: It is like such a like spectacle.

863
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: You can watch all three members of now Is at

864
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,119
any point and you're you're getting a show from them,

865
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,519
like a really great set and then carcass, Like I

866
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:08,239
would admit I had to move to the back of Carcass,

867
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,679
I went two hundred nails and at the Underworld fucking

868
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,199
rammed for Carcass.

869
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,199
Speaker 2: Like people were like, obviously you can't stay.

870
00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 3: They played quite a lot, but again I don't think

871
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,760
they they film more maybe like electric ballroom sorts like that.

872
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the tear up from Underworld. So this was like

873
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,239
people were there for it.

874
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: And again this was just like again just a bit more,

875
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:32,679
like like an hourl on Carcass announced they had a

876
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,400
bit more so they did keep on rotting in the

877
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,159
free world in the middle and that that again that

878
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,920
is like a death metal party.

879
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:43,519
Speaker 2: Star and like that's what they said, you have a.

880
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: Lot again they said you really quite joke you on

881
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,800
stage with this one, like Jeff like again playing up

882
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,519
to the crowd, like having a lot of fun with it,

883
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,880
and it was just like very cool to like I've

884
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,840
now seen like a real full sort of set of

885
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,679
like Carcass shows of two days, two very different settings,

886
00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:00,719
but they are so tight live. Even if they had

887
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,599
a bit where they're like the drummer, we messed up

888
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:04,320
something and Jeff was like, right, you're in trouble later

889
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,440
and like just playing around, but.

890
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 2: It just it felt like a kind of like cut

891
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,360
loose show.

892
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,559
Speaker 3: For carcaust the Underworld, where they were like, we're in

893
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,360
a tiny little venue. Let's let's kind of just have

894
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,039
a bit more fun with it while still being one

895
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:19,159
of the best defintal bands were like, this is sort

896
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:21,480
of set like songs that are like so heavy but

897
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,119
have these amazing moments and can be bangers and they

898
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:26,039
need to. Like I just it was a great sort

899
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:27,920
of like cap off to this sort of like we've

900
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,440
had the big show, like big metal celebration show and

901
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,800
now just kind of like these two bands in their

902
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,559
home turf, just like stomping your head in was was

903
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:36,440
fucking awesome.

904
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's segue if we can back into the news,

905
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:42,800
the better news, and seeing as it involves one of

906
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,079
the same bands that we've just been talking about, I

907
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,480
think we should go straight into the Damnation announcement, who

908
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,480
again today have announced their top end of the bill.

909
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:53,400
This includes the two technically the headliners, even though DA

910
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,400
Nations seemed to be putting you know, less emphasis on

911
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,159
who was actually headlining the event these days, but this

912
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,199
is the two bands who are closing each day of

913
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:03,480
the festival, and also four other bands who are right

914
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:06,119
up there on the highest rungs of the poster as well.

915
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,840
I don't know if these are all main stage bands.

916
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,639
Maybe a couple of the headlining the second stage. I

917
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:11,840
don't know, but I mean, wou I would want these

918
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,519
all bands to be mainstage, to be honest in terms

919
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,559
of the people they will draw. Let's go through these

920
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:20,360
are one by one in order. Headlining the main stage

921
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,639
of the Saturday night at Damnation closing the festival on

922
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:24,960
that day is Cult of Luna.

923
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,639
Speaker 2: And Could of Luna.

924
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: I mean they're already you know, playing a UK festival

925
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,920
this year at our Tangent where they're doing the you

926
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,559
know with Judy Christmas Mariner set, which I am still

927
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:35,000
you know, very disappointed that I'm not able to get

928
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,760
out and see. But a you're more straightforward Could Luna

929
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,239
set for a Damnation headlining set is still completely perfect,

930
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,960
basically like absolutely where you want to see that band.

931
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:47,400
They also have a logo on this poster that it

932
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,159
might have popped up somewhere. I'm not sure. I don't

933
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:51,760
immediately recognize the poster and that does make me go.

934
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,400
You know, it's been about four or five years since

935
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,480
the last Cot of Luna album. Is this part of

936
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,679
a you know, a new record tour you know, could

937
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,760
could will be but Cott of Luna as a Damnation

938
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,679
Saturday headliner.

939
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,639
Speaker 2: Yes, thumbs up.

940
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,159
Speaker 3: Great, Yeah, perfect choice, like that they feel so at home.

941
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:11,039
I mean again this top one of six bands, like

942
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,679
one of them because I'm just a bit less filliar

943
00:42:12,679 --> 00:42:13,559
of them, but I say five of them.

944
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: Was like, I feel like any of them could just

945
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:17,119
be Damnation headliners.

946
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like the level of dinnering with but

947
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,280
Carl Luna if you want people to sort of stick

948
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,719
around as well, Like people are gonna want to see

949
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,880
that Carl Luna show because it's fucking cold of Luna.

950
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,960
And again, if they haven't new or if they are

951
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,880
just doing you know, the normal corbling and stuff, I

952
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,599
either have seen Cordland. So this is very much getting

953
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:35,119
me back I should be at Damnation this year because

954
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:36,400
that's a really cool booking.

955
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:39,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, talking about how some of the

956
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:42,760
Damnation headliner slots do sometimes wane in popularity in terms

957
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,719
of you know, people getting early trains home or whatever

958
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,320
that kind of thing. I imagine Cott Lunar are one

959
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,440
of the bands like that. You said, who like this

960
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:51,039
rob is going to still be at least half full,

961
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:53,320
you know, like people will stick around for Cotal Luna

962
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,079
headlining closing the Sunday night, and this feels like a

963
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:57,880
little bit more of a oh that's a you know,

964
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,239
cooler maybe just less expected the Court of Luna doing it.

965
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:06,800
Satyricon are headlining the main stage Sunday of dam Nation Festival,

966
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,239
and like, obviously you guys know I'm a black metal guy,

967
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,000
so this is fucking great news for me. I love

968
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:14,760
satirra Con. Satiricon are a great live band in that

969
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,639
they have the kind of best of both worlds in

970
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:19,760
that they have the more you know, kind of involved

971
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:22,159
esoteric material and you know they don't always play loads

972
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:24,079
of it, but like Mother North is going to sound

973
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:27,119
fucking brilliant, you know, in this environment. But then you

974
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,039
also have, oh yeah, you want a black metal band

975
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:33,159
to end your festival day with some party starters fuel Fair,

976
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:37,159
Hatred now Diabolical, Black Crow on a two stone like

977
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,159
it's And the last time I saw them was when

978
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:41,280
they headlined the second stage of Bloodstock a couple of

979
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,079
years ago, and it was just like I hadn't seen

980
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:44,320
them in a number of years, so they kind of

981
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,960
gone away for a bit and it just like ah yeah,

982
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,119
satirri con back and forth being fucking brilliant.

983
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: Yees.

984
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: Still I don't I don't see their name coming around

985
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,559
loads at the moment now, So they feel quite sort

986
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:57,880
of rare appearance. But as you say, party start a

987
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,679
black metal but we've still kind of like more.

988
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: Interesting things they can pull from that.

989
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: Again, feels like if you're gonna get like a Black

990
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,079
mal Bands headline, because again they're a rare deal, that's

991
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:09,239
a really cool put pall again and again what I've

992
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,960
not seen so when I'm like that for me is

993
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,440
a really exciting kind of like things, So like, yep,

994
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:15,679
I want to be there for that as well.

995
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so those two are technically the headliners, but

996
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,400
these next four bands we're gonna mention are all you know,

997
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,760
again punching on the same kind of level in terms

998
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,480
of you know, selling tickets and venues and that kind

999
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:29,079
of thing, or in other cases, you know legend in

1000
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,840
the you know the underground net weill scene, So no

1001
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,280
slatches here either. Also like on the you know top

1002
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,639
rolling this postal we got egor who I saw recently

1003
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:41,199
when Imperi Triumphant were supporting on their UK too. I've

1004
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:44,320
seen Egor twice now and like it's it's the one

1005
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,880
of these five bands who I'm not personally really like

1006
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,960
that invested in musically, but I will say, you know,

1007
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:52,880
if you've never seen Egor live, it is I mean,

1008
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,239
this is one I feel like has to be on

1009
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,199
the main stage because there's so much that goes on

1010
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,239
in an Egor live show, Like there are so many

1011
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,880
moving parts, so many pieces. I've I've seen it a

1012
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,840
couple of times, but if you haven't seen it, then

1013
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,159
it's definitely a like one of the biggest, you know,

1014
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:09,000
kind of what's going on sort of spectacles that you

1015
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:11,519
can have at a festival like Damnation. I think again,

1016
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:13,159
they're also playing out Tangent this year, but they're coming

1017
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:15,719
back around for Damnation, so another big old book in

1018
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,599
there then into more just run straight of legends. Here

1019
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,880
fucking Crowbar right at Damnation Festival. And here's the thing

1020
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,800
with this, Crowbarr. Damnation Festival is not a shock. I

1021
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,320
don't rememb if they've ever played it before, but I'm

1022
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,480
not surprised by the booking. It's the fact that we

1023
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:32,920
are here in twenty twenty six and Crowbar are this

1024
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:36,679
high up the poster, which five years ago might have

1025
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,559
felt kind of strange, but right now it's like, oh yeah,

1026
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:42,199
they have to be there because, as we've kind of

1027
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,239
alluded to in the last kind of halful of months

1028
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,039
or whatever, Crowbar are fucking like really popular now. They

1029
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:48,760
just did a UK tour and I couldn't go because

1030
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,679
the venue sold out, just like that, immediately I.

1031
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: Missed down it sold out And I know, like they're

1032
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:56,159
us ones, They're doing it like the biggest show, biggest headlines.

1033
00:45:56,679 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like TikTok Legends Crowbar.

1034
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: Now it would seem like, I mean, this is striking

1035
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,480
while the iron is hot with them, is like Crowbar

1036
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:06,559
are on the like run of their life and the

1037
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:09,880
popularity get them in and kind of celebrate that. I think,

1038
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:12,800
Like I mean, again, as I've said, like the things

1039
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,559
that will put what I'm in just getting to see

1040
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:16,840
Crowbar and like my phone is that band now that

1041
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,599
that's a real big like yeah, that's that's gonna be

1042
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,880
good vibes that said, like just having the best time

1043
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,599
with Crowbar, but you know you're gonna have put.

1044
00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:26,599
Speaker 2: A few pounds before you get there.

1045
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but as I said, you know, Crowbar just eternally present,

1046
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,719
eternally around, but right now in twenty twenty six, it

1047
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,880
feels like a get to get growbar and so a

1048
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,079
big moment there and I'm very happy to see it.

1049
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:43,920
Then we have very familiar to us now Carcass, who

1050
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,239
you know have headlines Damnation you know when it was

1051
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,239
a smaller event, but they have headline Damnation on your

1052
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,320
various occasions and total damnation legends. They are one of

1053
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,440
these bands like a Napalm Death or an Electric Wizard who,

1054
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,679
like you know, everyone is like this is their crowd, right,

1055
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,960
so just get the walk into that place and be

1056
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:04,039
royalty as ever. And then the one that I am

1057
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:07,440
most pleased about, of course, trip to Con making I

1058
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,679
think their Damnation debut. Like certainly the time that I've

1059
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,840
been going, they've never booked trip to Con and I've

1060
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,639
long gone why haven't you booked trip to Coon? Like

1061
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:15,599
because they are it's not like they are, you know,

1062
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:18,280
impossible to get right like. They have been a touring

1063
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:21,119
band for the last you know, fifteen plus years. And

1064
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:24,000
in terms of those like legends of the extreme metal

1065
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:27,000
world who also seem you know, like budgetarily realistic or

1066
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:29,800
whatever for somewhere like Damnation. I was genuinely be amused

1067
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,119
as to why those parts had never crossed and why

1068
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:34,480
Trip toic On had never played it. So I'm fucking

1069
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,880
stoked to say, I mean, right, they' booked my favorite band,

1070
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,280
so of course I'm happy. But like it is a

1071
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:42,679
I think it's a Damnation debut, whether they you know,

1072
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:45,239
turn up on the main stage and just fucking lay

1073
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,159
out those classic I mean it's builders just Trip to Con.

1074
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:51,320
So imagine that they do play the odd Celtic cross song,

1075
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,239
but will have the you know, the the modern stuff

1076
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,320
as well, and they will be Crowbar and Trip to

1077
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,679
Con is like two of the heaviest sounding fucking things

1078
00:47:58,679 --> 00:47:59,280
in the world.

1079
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: On that guitar tone is going to be like cotton

1080
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,000
blue as well.

1081
00:48:03,039 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: Let's be real like that yeah big something film like

1082
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,760
oh yeah, seeing trips can be tripped on rather than

1083
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,599
like playing.

1084
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,199
Speaker 2: The stuff like that again.

1085
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,639
Speaker 3: Like that that top that that that is such a

1086
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:16,880
big deal announcement.

1087
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,639
Speaker 2: I mean this year like feels like you have so

1088
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,360
many of these.

1089
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: Like ridiculous festival announcements, where like every fest was really

1090
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:26,440
like almost an episode, like really up to their game

1091
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,159
this year, and I think like in terms of delivering

1092
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,639
what their fans want and sort of making the value

1093
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:34,599
for money festival, I think there is there's few festivals

1094
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:36,320
that kind of hold a candle to to sort of

1095
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:39,239
what damnation off are they? They really have grown into

1096
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,519
a special sort of musty event.

1097
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a really fucking strong top run added to

1098
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,000
that Damnation poster looking very very good. Indeed, we are

1099
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:51,880
quite away into this episode and we're only getting around

1100
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,840
to the new music and then the album announcements and

1101
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:57,119
you know, prior to the last of twenty four hours,

1102
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,760
so and you know, all the news has happened here.

1103
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,920
This was the what the fuck do you mean a

1104
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,679
bit of the week because Converge.

1105
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: I've got another new album coming out.

1106
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: Converge dropped the album in February, and then I guess,

1107
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,320
not to be outdone by Neurosis, they were like, watch this,

1108
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,920
We've got another one coming. Love is Not Enough came

1109
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,119
out in February. In June, we will get hum of

1110
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,239
Hurt and there's starts to be some rumors going around

1111
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,480
and people are like, oh, and I think there might

1112
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:22,639
be a Converge album coming. And now it has been

1113
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:26,639
confirmed Dune the fifth it will be out. There is

1114
00:49:26,679 --> 00:49:29,519
also the title track from it out as a single.

1115
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,280
What how has this happened? We waited essentially, you know

1116
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,079
if you discount Blood Moon nine years for a new

1117
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,400
Converge album, and then we get two inside what like

1118
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,239
four months.

1119
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 3: Like the thing is when the rumors were so circling about,

1120
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,599
which was on like thirty first of March, so you're like,

1121
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,039
there's gonna be announced.

1122
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:50,559
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, is like yeah, yeah, cool, sure, and.

1123
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,119
Speaker 3: There was like, oh no, no, there is there's a

1124
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:56,679
title track. We are getting a second Converge album this year?

1125
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,840
Is the Podium this year going to be a Neurosis

1126
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,599
Converged double like if you are into.

1127
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,639
Speaker 2: Artistic challenging into heavy.

1128
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,199
Speaker 3: Music, like it feels that again like we rag on

1129
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,800
where heavy music is and sort of commercial side the

1130
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,599
underground is coming out swinging this year with the best

1131
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:18,400
shit possible two Converge albums, like and again like obviously

1132
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,320
they said, you know they were away for ages, they

1133
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,480
will work on so much material, and then when we

1134
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:26,599
got like thirty one minute the most of Bludgeoning to

1135
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:28,840
the point Converge album, that was kind of like, oh okay,

1136
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,719
and then we get this and again, like I mean

1137
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,559
this south I think, like I look at the TRAT list,

1138
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:33,760
it's like still ten songs is like.

1139
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,519
Speaker 2: Thirty four minutes.

1140
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: But this lead single is definitely on the more involved

1141
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:40,679
kind of end of Converge. It's not quite you know,

1142
00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:43,440
blood Moon levels, but so it's all middle ground between

1143
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,119
that and the stuff on love Love is Not Enough.

1144
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,320
But as a lead single, it's gonna like Converge are

1145
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,920
just the best band, and this is so good.

1146
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: It's interesting.

1147
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: There's like so many cool little guitar parts in there,

1148
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,400
Bannon's kind of flexing his vocal range a bit more

1149
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,519
of it, but it's it's just, yeah, like I'm getting

1150
00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:03,840
a second Converge album this year, what the fuck?

1151
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1152
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: As he was touching on with a single here you know,

1153
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,840
the Converge album that came out, there were a few

1154
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,400
people who are like, this just sort of seems like

1155
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,079
a Converge album in terms of it's a more straightforwardly

1156
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:20,360
aggressive type of record, and this just sonically it feels

1157
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,000
less like a big titan fist into your face as

1158
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,119
Love is Not Enough does, and it is more slithering

1159
00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:29,840
and a bit more strange, and even like the bit

1160
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,519
when Nate comes in vocally, which I always fucking love,

1161
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,639
whether it be Converge or cave In Now or whatever.

1162
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,480
But when Nate comes in vocally, it's over like a

1163
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:41,280
melodic riff, rather than how he's usually deployed, which is

1164
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:41,960
like the bulk.

1165
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 2: You know. Maybe I'm chasing.

1166
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:47,039
Speaker 1: That neurosis high. I wish we didn't know about this.

1167
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:49,679
I wish that they'd sat on it because imagine how

1168
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:52,039
brilliant it would be to be, you know, spinning. Love

1169
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:53,400
is not enough, which I think you know obviously now

1170
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,119
people are gonna go, oh, a new Converge album. Maybe

1171
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:57,800
that album. I hope people, you know, continue to give

1172
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,639
its flowers. I suppose because I.

1173
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, you know what I mean. I'm in

1174
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,519
the hype Converge. I've finally got that in my vinyl collection.

1175
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:07,039
Speaker 3: Love is not enough because I'm to be forgotten about

1176
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:07,920
because it's so good.

1177
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,199
Speaker 1: Sure, exactly. Maybe I wish we had a couple more

1178
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:12,320
months of just that. But imagine how brilliant would be

1179
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:16,119
getting to June waking up one day and there's another Convergion.

1180
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,159
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here like I'm seeing Converge at the end

1181
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:21,440
of June, are you gonna get a set that it's

1182
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:24,599
entirely just like there was a strong possibility they could

1183
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:26,960
just decide, you know, this set is the two new albums,

1184
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,880
Like there be so much new Converged material.

1185
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,079
Speaker 2: I want to see in the set. What are they

1186
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:30,480
gonna do?

1187
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 3: Like it's it is mental like again I know what

1188
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,039
you mean that like that magic of that like Neurosis

1189
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:40,079
moment was so good that Conversion Manage had pulled that off,

1190
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,760
that would have been saying, I don't know if they were,

1191
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,119
Like I don't if they were able to because you

1192
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,480
say it started to leak out before so the they

1193
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:48,760
didn't have it as tight ship as Neurosis did.

1194
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: But it's still just like.

1195
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 3: It's the kind of like, hey, two converged albums is

1196
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,960
such a like fun Well, what a feast we have

1197
00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:00,440
got between like two converge records. I I would say,

1198
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,880
like the Poison the world record that he rose his

1199
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,199
record that's on the side of my music taste. It

1200
00:53:04,199 --> 00:53:06,119
has been so well served this year that I'm having

1201
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,920
zero complaints from me.

1202
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:11,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so look forward to that. We also have you know,

1203
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:12,599
we sort of alluded to it last week we thought

1204
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:15,159
again it then but Wesa are now back with a

1205
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,559
song called Shine Again. They are, you know, leading into

1206
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:22,079
a new album campaign that will be released I suppose

1207
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:25,719
some point later in the year. The song shine Again

1208
00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:29,320
that is out something that we noted even before it

1209
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,440
was released. Is the kind of the writing credits of

1210
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,079
it came out, I suppose, and it is. I think

1211
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:38,239
it's the first song in a long long time to

1212
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,440
be written not by Rivers Cromo, but by Weesa's drummer

1213
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,119
Patrick Patrick Wilson. And there are songs like It's Automatic

1214
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:48,000
from the Red album that he's done that with and

1215
00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:49,239
it was like, oh, what do you mean we're going

1216
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,519
back to that? I would say putting this on, you

1217
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:56,559
wouldn't actually think of that in the same way, because

1218
00:53:56,599 --> 00:53:59,000
you know, River still sings it. It's not Patrick vocal.

1219
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,199
What this strikes me as Weezer wise, obviously, this is

1220
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,960
the first your proper Weezer material, I suppose since the

1221
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,920
season's records, and if you have been along with our

1222
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,519
trials and tribulations of our like Weezer coverage on the

1223
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:13,760
Patreon there there are of course ups and downs in

1224
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,960
their catalog, and I would describe seasons as a particular

1225
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:20,000
low point for us all collectively. This sounds, certainly in

1226
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:23,800
production like this is like almost back to the garage

1227
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,039
fucking drawing room Weezer production, and this is like, oh,

1228
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:30,960
straightforward Weezer again, like the Weezer that we know.

1229
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:31,599
Speaker 2: I wouldn't like.

1230
00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:33,639
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard the single once. It didn't hit

1231
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,960
me in the way you think about the lead singles

1232
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,639
of you know, A fucking a Mexican Fender right or

1233
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,440
a you know the white album tracks, those kind of

1234
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,280
songs in terms of scale of song, but in terms

1235
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,000
of sound and tone, this sounds more like, oh, it's Weezer,

1236
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:50,400
rather than oh fuck it's Weezer.

1237
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,679
Speaker 3: Yes, that is exactly my again, like I like, I

1238
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,199
never know what I'm Gonna's. Part of the joy and

1239
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,639
the wonder and the magic and the terror of Weezer

1240
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:03,400
is you get a new song and you hit playing,

1241
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,760
you just you don't know what you're gonna get.

1242
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: Are you gonna get a song that is like just

1243
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,280
plug in and play?

1244
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 3: Can like in the garage just can like melodically great

1245
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,079
like emo song, pop rock song, whatever? Or are you

1246
00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:18,320
gonna get the nonsense that was on Seasons?

1247
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 2: And this is me.

1248
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 3: Again, I'm not blown away by this, but I'm like, ah, Weezer, yes,

1249
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:27,840
because again it's got a nice kind of loonic hook.

1250
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 2: The production it.

1251
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 3: Does sound rawer and a bit more just kind of

1252
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,239
like authentic, and it's a very just nice lead single

1253
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,119
to sort of settle into. And it's kind of like again,

1254
00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:41,320
like I'm not gonna like say that the entire im

1255
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,280
is gonna be amazing yet, because again this could like

1256
00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:45,360
we had you know, Mexic vend and then we've got

1257
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,599
Pacific Daydream, Like wouldn't be funny.

1258
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,599
Speaker 1: If the only good song on the album was the

1259
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:54,519
one written by Patrick and all the rivers songs like happen.

1260
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,119
Speaker 3: Weezer lad like they are just like no bad and

1261
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,559
like them out there. But I'm cautiously optimistic that we

1262
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,639
can throw the w up again.

1263
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,679
Speaker 1: Wheezer is back, Like yeah, and this is really weird

1264
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,440
that this has happened the same week that they have

1265
00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:14,000
got you know, an actual new single.

1266
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,079
Speaker 2: Acum, I mean this one to me because I'm so

1267
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:16,840
confused by this.

1268
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a case of TikTok strikes again. And I

1269
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,039
can't tell you, I can never tell you really why

1270
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:26,440
the things start, Like why who decides on Mary on

1271
00:56:26,519 --> 00:56:30,280
a Cross or you know, fucking repulsive in its splendid

1272
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,519
beauty for Crowbar being the song that people latch onto.

1273
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:37,239
But Weezer's song go Away, which is the song from

1274
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,880
Everything Will Be all Right in the End, it's an

1275
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,079
album cut. It's the song that features Bethany from the

1276
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:42,920
band Best Coast.

1277
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,159
Speaker 2: I love that song.

1278
00:56:44,199 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I love that album, but that's always one

1279
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,960
that you know, I it sticks out in my head. Yeah,

1280
00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:50,559
the duet between them is lovely. Big fan of that song,

1281
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:52,920
really really liked it, always have done since we've done

1282
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,440
our coverage on that record and that kind of thing.

1283
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:58,280
That's charted on the Billboard Hot one hundreds this week

1284
00:56:58,519 --> 00:57:01,840
for the first time. It is number ninety currently. It's

1285
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,599
their first appearance on that chart, which, again, the bill

1286
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:06,960
of Hot one hundred is like the one hundred biggest

1287
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,800
songs in America. Yeah, like the number one songs are

1288
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,559
like the actual number one songs. Right, It's in the

1289
00:57:11,559 --> 00:57:13,840
Hot one hundred. It's their first appearance there since Africa

1290
00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:18,760
in twenty eighteen. Time they punched through to that zeitgeist.

1291
00:57:19,239 --> 00:57:22,480
But it seems to be for some reason this Everything

1292
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:25,119
Will Be Right in the end album cut. This really

1293
00:57:25,199 --> 00:57:27,280
nice little it's a proper Weezer song, right, it's not again,

1294
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,079
it's not in Africa, Like it's a really it's a

1295
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:31,920
great Weezer song with this guest appearance on there. For

1296
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,960
some reason that has TikTok has just you know, delivered

1297
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,360
its divine judgment that that is now the song that

1298
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,800
in the latest line to just get a random boost

1299
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,039
of traction and is now charting on the actual Hot

1300
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:46,159
one hundred over a decade after it was released.

1301
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,599
Speaker 3: There is so many Weezer songs I could imagine becoming

1302
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,519
You could probably put fifty Weasa songs, like as a

1303
00:57:54,519 --> 00:57:57,320
conservative guess of how many wheez songs I would predicted

1304
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,400
to become TikTok kits before this one. It's it's a

1305
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,239
world I do not understand. Like I'm always like, why

1306
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,199
is it ever actually a band's best song? What to do?

1307
00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:09,679
Speaker 2: How does that? This is a cool one? I think

1308
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,239
this is not?

1309
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:12,639
Speaker 3: This is this is yeah yeah no, this is a

1310
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,480
like intro. This is a really interesting thing. I like

1311
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,719
it could have been castop partying, is what I'm gonna say, Like, like, like,

1312
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,039
is go Away now going to have to be a

1313
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:26,480
Weezer Live mainstay for the rest of their Like, is

1314
00:58:26,519 --> 00:58:28,440
it going to replace Africa in the set?

1315
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well.

1316
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: Here's some stats for you. Everything will be right in

1317
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,199
the end on Spotify. Unfortunately, obviously, you know, I don't

1318
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:37,480
have a before and after now because I've got what's

1319
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,719
in front of me. But most of the songs on

1320
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:42,280
the album have all got you know, a few thousand streams.

1321
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:44,320
Back to the Shack, which was the you know, the

1322
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,840
pushed single from that album has twenty nine thousand uh no, sorry,

1323
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,559
twenty nine million streams. Again, I can't tell you what

1324
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:53,280
it was before. I imagine it would have been similar

1325
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,440
to all the album tracks. Go Away Right Now has

1326
00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:58,559
forty six million plays, So it has leap frogged the

1327
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:00,760
lead single from that album to be the massive song

1328
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:01,360
from that record.

1329
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: Now on Apple Music, when you like open up to

1330
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,639
go to iCal, it has like they're the commost so

1331
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,519
and it's like, say, it's the top song on on

1332
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:08,360
the Weezer payer and Apple Music. It's I was like,

1333
00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:12,360
how just this, Like I say, what divine judgment? What

1334
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,559
trend is this part? Because again I am I'm not

1335
00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:17,280
on TikTok, so I don't know what trend this is

1336
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,559
part of. Yeah, it's just such an odd sort of thing.

1337
00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:22,039
But like I say, if this beeds to go Away,

1338
00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:25,440
is now gonna be a Weezer livestable kind of welcome

1339
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:25,840
this one.

1340
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, here's another stat for you, Rick Ocasek

1341
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,960
from The Cars, who you know has done regular producing

1342
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,920
work with Weezer. It's his first appearance on that chart

1343
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:40,239
as you know, a producer since the Sweater Song charted

1344
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:41,400
in nineteen ninety four.

1345
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: So like he's just again.

1346
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: That's a record where they returned to working with him

1347
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,880
and now was suddenly just fucking he's booted up.

1348
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love go Away.

1349
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: That's a great song. I wouldn't have predicted this, but

1350
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:51,960
you know, I'm not mad about it.

1351
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,119
Speaker 2: So good there.

1352
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,239
Speaker 1: We also have a continual run of new music. The

1353
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,880
Callus Dow Boys have put a new single called jig

1354
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,639
Antick Parasite Tongue Calistalboys of course, you know pretty hot

1355
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:05,559
off there, very well received, very well lighted album that

1356
01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:08,079
came out last year. Have you checked out the new single?

1357
01:00:08,239 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is cool.

1358
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 3: I've only given it one listen and it's a Calistalboys song,

1359
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,559
So I kind of like it's a lot to it,

1360
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,239
But I love this band. I think, like, I think

1361
01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:19,440
they're a really good band. Have as kind of like

1362
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,519
one of the bands actually bothering the mainstream of like

1363
01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:23,719
Metical and that sort of sort of things, because they

1364
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,360
are getting more interesting out.

1365
01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: Their ideas to a crowd, to our kind of averse

1366
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,719
to that. I don't like.

1367
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: Again, it hasn't immediately got it to me, because again,

1368
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,639
this is this is mental Calistalboys. This is one of

1369
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:38,079
their most are like throw let's throw loads of ideas

1370
01:00:38,119 --> 01:00:39,559
in there, but they're asking you know, big hooks in there.

1371
01:00:39,559 --> 01:00:42,559
There's some cool riffs, some weird, oh freak choices in there,

1372
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:45,360
but it's more Calistalboys. If you likes that last album,

1373
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,679
I don't know why you would hear this and kind

1374
01:00:46,679 --> 01:00:49,480
of go like, ah, it's too final, because this is, yeah,

1375
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:50,800
just a cool standlone single.

1376
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:51,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1377
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,679
Speaker 1: I like the bits where you know, it's got these

1378
01:00:53,719 --> 01:00:55,920
kind of heavy you know, Dylan ju esque you know,

1379
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:57,880
this blast beats and stuff to begin with, but then

1380
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,920
it throws in for like a second at a time,

1381
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,840
these like two thousand nightcore fucking electro beats, and it

1382
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,760
reminded me of was that band we reviewed last year,

1383
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,920
Blind Equation. Yes, and that kind of like you know,

1384
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,880
computer y. You know, I'm in the digi zone. Get

1385
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,679
that band on TikTok, I say, mate that but it

1386
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:18,920
kind of reminds me of that, and you know, that's a

1387
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,800
flavor that I'm down for. So yeah, pretty decent single

1388
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,280
from the Callistur Boys. Bal Mora have announced they're quite

1389
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,559
long awaited at this point debut album. This is a

1390
01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:29,599
band who, on their EPs and their live shows have

1391
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:33,159
been one of the most hyped bands in the hardcore

1392
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,079
metallic hardcore metalcore world. And in the promo picture for

1393
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:38,800
this album, the guy in the middle is wearing a

1394
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,280
fucking old school older logo and mortal shirt, so I

1395
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,679
have to give them the thumbs up there. Album is

1396
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:48,559
called These Graven Halls. It's out May twenty ninth, and

1397
01:01:48,599 --> 01:01:50,199
like I said, when it comes to the the that

1398
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,840
kind of metallic hardcore world, that's one of the bands

1399
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,320
that we would certainly I think, you know, check in

1400
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,960
on what they're too excited for bal Mora.

1401
01:01:55,159 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really am. I do like this song a lot.

1402
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: I think that of the kind of like modern kind

1403
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,440
of like throw back metallic caulk and stuff that. Again,

1404
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,039
there's so much of it. I do think Ba Mora

1405
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,599
have just a bit more craft to them. This is

1406
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,400
their first song with a new vocalist I think is

1407
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,039
the guy in Themortal top of the promo picture. So

1408
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:12,320
like this is a new era for the band. I

1409
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,119
think that's why the album's taking a bit of a while.

1410
01:02:14,159 --> 01:02:17,039
There's been some lineup change and all that. But yeah,

1411
01:02:17,079 --> 01:02:20,000
this is you know, it's got evil kind of molodic

1412
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:23,880
lead guitar parts. It's got like just pure mosh bits,

1413
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,480
Like there are some some of the moshas they will

1414
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:27,440
just drop in there kind of random intervals are just

1415
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,480
like so hard.

1416
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm like that they throw a lot into these songs.

1417
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 3: That kind of makes them it's a bit more kind

1418
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,440
of exciting then some of the other kind of like

1419
01:02:36,119 --> 01:02:38,199
metallic hulks from there. Sort of seeing that again, I

1420
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,280
like a lot, but it's a bit more. A bit

1421
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,679
more time does and this is this has.

1422
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:43,599
Speaker 2: I don't know, a bit more sparked to it in

1423
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:44,800
the songwriting and the craft.

1424
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, on that, you know, on that kick. Guilt Trip

1425
01:02:48,639 --> 01:02:51,159
have also announced their new album called Armor of Angels.

1426
01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:53,320
It's out Dune, the fifth via road Runner road right.

1427
01:02:53,679 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: Weirdly big Guilt Trip recently, like I couldn't quite believe.

1428
01:02:56,199 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they headlined uh No Playfest of All, which is

1429
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,760
the festival in the hardcore world that happens in Liverpool.

1430
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,559
I think it might have been last year or the

1431
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:06,960
year before. They were like top of the bill of

1432
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,599
that thing. I think Guilt Trip are totally fine, but

1433
01:03:10,679 --> 01:03:12,719
as you've noted, they are quite popular now, so I

1434
01:03:12,719 --> 01:03:13,920
thought i'd ask you if you're interested.

1435
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I like your trip.

1436
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: They don't like they've never been like the most kind

1437
01:03:18,039 --> 01:03:20,079
of like George from a band in that sort of scene.

1438
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:22,400
But they have again kind of crossed over in a

1439
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,679
way where they're like on a big co headlining running

1440
01:03:24,679 --> 01:03:27,679
America with malevolence at the moment, Like in American particularly,

1441
01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:31,599
they've really caught on over there, Like I've seen some

1442
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:34,320
of the festivals they were playing, like the big outdoor stages.

1443
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,920
They're like Guilt Trip for a UK band from Manchester

1444
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:37,920
who have just kind of been a part of the

1445
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,880
hardcore furniture here for god knows how long. Weirdly kind

1446
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,920
of blown up and I think cool, I like I

1447
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:45,960
want to I want to on this album to kind

1448
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,960
of like step up in terms of like the songwriting,

1449
01:03:48,039 --> 01:03:50,840
but I'm happy to sort of see them succeed.

1450
01:03:51,719 --> 01:03:55,239
Speaker 1: Yes, and then let's close out the hardcore run of

1451
01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:01,199
news here with fucking hell Brady Eberts, who we had

1452
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,800
mentioned in the New show, you know, a couple of

1453
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,639
weeks ago, kind of almost at this point, capping off

1454
01:04:06,679 --> 01:04:08,679
what we thought was just going to be the run

1455
01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:10,559
of mental news that he would be involved in, of

1456
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,679
being kicked out of bands and you know, mouth and

1457
01:04:12,679 --> 01:04:15,400
off about them and all that kind of stuff. For

1458
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,320
legal reasons, I don't think we should like you know,

1459
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,159
speculate or do too much here, but he has been

1460
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:25,840
apparently arrested on a you know, suspicion of attempted murder,

1461
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,960
and it has then since come out that it is

1462
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:34,719
likely to do with Turnstile vocalist Brendan Yates's father, who

1463
01:04:35,199 --> 01:04:39,760
Brady Ebert has allegedly tried to ram down with his car.

1464
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,119
And all I will say is that, you know, when

1465
01:04:43,159 --> 01:04:47,360
we were talking about the speculative career of Brady, but

1466
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,239
we will like imagine if in thirty years time he is,

1467
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,559
you know, covering old Turnstiles. Obviously we're doing a joke

1468
01:04:53,559 --> 01:04:56,480
there mirroring Dave Mustaine's career because that's what the vibes

1469
01:04:56,519 --> 01:04:59,880
felt like. He's lapped Dave Mustaine. Now hasn't He hasn't,

1470
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:04,039
No one's no one's gotten that angry.

1471
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: This is, yeah, a real term.

1472
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like, this feels like there's there's wider

1473
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:16,320
problems within this that like, yeah, addressed that that self

1474
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,480
evident truth EP that he played on, which might be

1475
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,039
like the lasting that that's kind of just like a

1476
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:22,880
weird artifact in this whole sort of thing. But yeah,

1477
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,159
this is spiraled in ways.

1478
01:05:24,199 --> 01:05:28,679
Speaker 2: I was kind of like Jesus were like hardcore band beefs, Like.

1479
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,239
Speaker 1: We like that they just happened to that genre.

1480
01:05:32,639 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 3: I mean the joking in the they're lapping black metal

1481
01:05:35,519 --> 01:05:37,800
in terms of like insane ship that bands are doing

1482
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:38,400
to each other.

1483
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:39,559
Speaker 2: This is crazy.

1484
01:05:39,559 --> 01:05:41,119
Speaker 3: And again I don't want to like be too clim

1485
01:05:41,159 --> 01:05:44,440
about this because it is some really horrible situation, but

1486
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,920
it is just the sort of insane escalation of he

1487
01:05:48,039 --> 01:05:50,480
was kicked out Turnstile four years ago.

1488
01:05:50,519 --> 01:05:52,159
Speaker 2: Now I say he don't remove fro Turnstile like four

1489
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:52,679
years ago.

1490
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,719
Speaker 3: And it was with the Sey's new band where he

1491
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,440
started to sort of mouth off against them, got removed

1492
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,920
from that band, started another new band, head his mouth

1493
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:01,280
and now it's got to this. It's just kind of

1494
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,000
like the escalation over a couple of months is mental,

1495
01:06:05,239 --> 01:06:08,039
like like, well, I'm sure more will come out of

1496
01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:10,679
this in the coming days, but yeah, it's a crazy story.

1497
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that someone in our discord replied to

1498
01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:16,760
their saying, fucking hell just dosing with Esterton like any

1499
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:22,719
sane person, we are beyond what we thought was possible

1500
01:06:22,719 --> 01:06:25,920
a handful of years ago. We have truly across the

1501
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,239
group of gun when it comes to that world. You know, sincerely,

1502
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,280
I hope that everyone fucking involved with this, you know,

1503
01:06:32,599 --> 01:06:35,719
it is okay because it's you know, some serious shit,

1504
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,719
but fucking hell wild something that we can celebrate more more.

1505
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,440
Holy Rush, the new lineup with an Eca Niles on

1506
01:06:43,719 --> 01:06:47,679
the drums, has made their first live public appearance. They

1507
01:06:47,679 --> 01:06:51,639
did it at the Juno Awards, where also Despised Icon

1508
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,719
won an award and took the home the award for

1509
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,079
the Canadian you know, Metal Heavy Music Album of the Year.

1510
01:06:58,239 --> 01:07:00,920
What a great headline that is, what ann where both

1511
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:04,480
Russia Present and Despised Chord are taken over trophies. Yeah,

1512
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:05,639
that's legends only.

1513
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: I mean there was other this where.

1514
01:07:07,239 --> 01:07:09,159
Speaker 3: Billy Tallent got like kind of like a legacy kind

1515
01:07:09,199 --> 01:07:11,480
of award where they on stage talking about like with

1516
01:07:11,639 --> 01:07:13,679
importance of Punker and that's the thing I was. But

1517
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,880
the do you know what seems like it was a

1518
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,920
really cool pie this year like Russia back Billy Talent

1519
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:22,039
kind of being celebrated, despised winning awards up the Canada.

1520
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: This Rush performance though really cool.

1521
01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 3: There is like one guy in the credit keeps cutting

1522
01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:29,239
to who is having the time of his life watching

1523
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:30,480
Rush player song.

1524
01:07:30,519 --> 01:07:32,599
Speaker 2: But they sound great, Like she seems.

1525
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 3: Like a really good feel on the drummer, so yeah,

1526
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:36,880
this is this is good vibes.

1527
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Geddy is fucking he's pretty wild on this.

1528
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,519
He's kind of, you know, veering all over the place.

1529
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:46,559
But they're playing interesting. It's playing the song Finding My Way,

1530
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,800
which is the first track from the debut Rush album,

1531
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,599
so they've not come in and done, you know, a

1532
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:54,199
really heavy hitter and interesting that it makes it one

1533
01:07:54,239 --> 01:07:56,199
of the few songs in the Rush catalog that Neil

1534
01:07:56,239 --> 01:07:58,920
Perk did not actually perform the drums on because the

1535
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,119
first album is before he joined, so interestingly, we still

1536
01:08:02,159 --> 01:08:04,679
haven't seen you know, this lineup playing a you know,

1537
01:08:04,719 --> 01:08:08,000
a Neil Pert song essentially an interesting.

1538
01:08:07,679 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 3: Way to re announce some sort of rush those go

1539
01:08:09,519 --> 01:08:10,880
back to You track one.

1540
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's an interesting tidbit of what's going on there.

1541
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,680
But yeah, happy to see him, obviously with the knowledge

1542
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,079
that I'll be seeing them in you know, a bit.

1543
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: Under a year's time.

1544
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: Blaze Bailey has been announced to be headlining the Friday

1545
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,600
nights of Iron Maiden's neb Worth Weekend. Their Big neb

1546
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,680
Worth Weekend or where I Made Themselves will be performing.

1547
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,479
Blaze Bailey has been booked performing He's you know, touring

1548
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,039
later this year, doing essentially you know, a set of

1549
01:08:36,079 --> 01:08:38,960
his Iron Maiden era and his Iron Maiden songs. I

1550
01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:41,159
have to tell you, I'm genuinely tempted and I want

1551
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:44,640
to go because I you know, production an issue with

1552
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,239
the album's aside and all that, there is a handful

1553
01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:47,840
of the Blaize Bailey song which I love that I

1554
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,760
do think are classics, and to see the man performing

1555
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,520
them is you know, a good night out as far

1556
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,840
as I'm concerned, and I think it's nice and just

1557
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:57,039
quite a nice, happy gesture. I suppose that, you know,

1558
01:08:57,199 --> 01:09:01,079
to get the official, you know, invitation to be part

1559
01:09:01,119 --> 01:09:03,159
of this big you know, it's sort of an extension

1560
01:09:03,159 --> 01:09:05,399
of their fiftieth anniversary thing, isn't it. So to be

1561
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:06,800
part of it and be like, yeah, you can be

1562
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,640
part of the Weekend and.

1563
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: Maiden and it feels kind of nice. He's been able

1564
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:11,399
to be part of it.

1565
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he gets to play fucking Sign of the

1566
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,159
Cross and the Clansman and Man on the Edge and

1567
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,279
a good bunch of songs. So yeah, happy for Blaze Bailey,

1568
01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:23,720
Happy that that that has been added there. Also, Judas

1569
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:28,039
Priest have added a one off London show this year.

1570
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,079
It is in the the Hammersmith what is it, the

1571
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:37,840
Evident Him Apollo, Yes, just sure brands, fucking yeah, the

1572
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,199
Hammersmith Apollo September the twenty first. Is obviously they're playing

1573
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:43,760
Blood stop in August, but they're not touring fully, but

1574
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,279
do it adding a London show and support on that

1575
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:49,479
show comes from the reactivated Nevermore, who also just played

1576
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,520
their first show back like last night, and I've been

1577
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,560
watching footage of that of all the Turkish fans going

1578
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,760
fucking mental. Singing really loudly along to like Sentient Number

1579
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,359
six and all these tracks. But that is a fucking

1580
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,039
awesome you know, if you are not going to Bloodstot

1581
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:07,880
for example, but you're able to hit Judas Priest and Nevermore,

1582
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,000
that's a that's a proper heavy metal show. That is

1583
01:10:10,039 --> 01:10:12,359
so I'm very jealous of the people who are attending

1584
01:10:12,399 --> 01:10:14,439
that event. I'm hoping that I can see, you know,

1585
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,079
at least some of these bands later on in the

1586
01:10:16,119 --> 01:10:18,960
year somewhere else. But that is a great show. Alkaline

1587
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,079
Trio have added a UK and a little bit of

1588
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:25,359
Europe headline tour. They are going to be arriving here

1589
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,159
in July, late June and July. They're playing Birmingham, Newcastle, Leeds,

1590
01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:33,640
Manchester and the Kentrytown Forum in London. When was the

1591
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,319
last time you saw Alkaline Tria.

1592
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: Slamm Dunk last year? They were great. It's one of

1593
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,960
the best times I've seen them. Yeah, great.

1594
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: I saw them on the headline tour maybe two three

1595
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,880
years ago and it was very very fun. Indeed, so

1596
01:10:44,079 --> 01:10:46,600
good news see Alkaline Tria coming back, and just another

1597
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,800
show that I'm very jealous of. Sai the Japanese haven't goard.

1598
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,199
Black Metal Legends have also added a one off London

1599
01:10:53,239 --> 01:10:55,560
show on the eleventh of July. It's downstairs at the

1600
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,800
Dome and it is billed as a specifically old school

1601
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:03,600
set tracking their Scorn defeat through to Hail Horror, Hail Era.

1602
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,119
So the mid nineties first, like three Records SI, one

1603
01:11:07,119 --> 01:11:08,720
of those records we spoke about recently on the night

1604
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,640
in the eight seven special we did. And yeah, I

1605
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,560
mean if that was if that was closer to me,

1606
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,079
if that was in my area, I would be there

1607
01:11:15,119 --> 01:11:18,560
in a heartbeacers. That's a fucking awesome little time. Cool

1608
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,439
And before we really start, you know, closing this episode off,

1609
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:23,960
before we move on, I'm going to give a shout

1610
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,600
out here for any listeners who may be so interested.

1611
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,199
There is a book that is up now available for

1612
01:11:29,279 --> 01:11:31,359
pre order that is releasing later in the year. It

1613
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,159
is titled Mental Health for metal Heads, Rock Your Way

1614
01:11:34,199 --> 01:11:36,880
to Well Being written by James Neeson. This is not

1615
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,119
a paid advertisement because we don't do that here and

1616
01:11:39,399 --> 01:11:41,119
I'm a little adverse to lots of people, you know,

1617
01:11:41,159 --> 01:11:44,840
turning up and wanting to advertise on our stuff. But

1618
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,960
James has been a long time member of the T

1619
01:11:47,039 --> 01:11:49,039
and M community for years on all of our social

1620
01:11:49,119 --> 01:11:51,479
channels and everything and you know social groups, and I

1621
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:52,920
know he's been working on this for a long time.

1622
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,840
It has cover art by Ed Repka, the icon behind

1623
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,239
so many of the great thrash metal covers of the eighties,

1624
01:11:58,279 --> 01:12:00,600
the thrash Artist, and of course, as you can gather

1625
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,119
from the title, it is a book to do with

1626
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:05,279
you know, therapy and mental well being, but aimed at

1627
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:08,000
metal heads, with references sewn throughout too many a band

1628
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,039
from the metal universe. I think even the odd reference

1629
01:12:10,079 --> 01:12:12,399
taken from this show and our in jokes over the years.

1630
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,840
So seems made for the T and M fans out there,

1631
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,359
coming at subjects like psychology through the heavy metal lens

1632
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:20,000
and the artists that we love. I have not personally

1633
01:12:20,079 --> 01:12:22,239
had the opportunity to read it, but it has been

1634
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:25,279
looked over by a licensed psychiatrist apparently, and fifty percent

1635
01:12:25,319 --> 01:12:27,279
of the profits this are also going to the Sophie

1636
01:12:27,319 --> 01:12:29,840
Lancaster Foundation. So if that sounds like a read that

1637
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,520
you might get something out of, then, as said, it

1638
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,640
is available now for pre order through Amazon for your

1639
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,720
kindle for example, Mental Health for metal Heads, Rock Your

1640
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,439
Way to well Being by James Neeson. We this week

1641
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,880
on the Patreo patron dot com slash That's not Meal.

1642
01:12:43,039 --> 01:12:45,680
We brought that album Club pack after a few months

1643
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away from it because we were doing that formatch of

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01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,319
ninety ninety seven special where we spoke about fucking, you know,

1645
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,760
a thousand albums, but we wanted to bring about album

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01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,960
Club and so to do it to shake off that dust,

1647
01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:59,439
we just almost randomly, just you guys, you know, selected

1648
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,000
from across the spectrum, just some some cool stuff to

1649
01:13:02,039 --> 01:13:06,000
be talking about. And so it resulted in finally officially

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01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:09,399
having never done it, unbelievably at album Club, looking at

1651
01:13:09,399 --> 01:13:13,000
what happened withins Temper Temper as well as Blue Oyster Cults,

1652
01:13:13,039 --> 01:13:14,960
fire on an Origin and talking about what are fucking

1653
01:13:15,039 --> 01:13:19,239
brilliant at times like Undiscovered Band they are, Gorilla Biscuits

1654
01:13:19,279 --> 01:13:21,479
Start Today are really again if you've not heard that record,

1655
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,520
a seminal record from the eighties hardcore world and just

1656
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,439
some fucking brutal death metal was Skinlesses foreshadowing our demise

1657
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,279
and uh, you know, the first one of those album

1658
01:13:32,279 --> 01:13:35,640
clubs is the name one the story right in terms

1659
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,880
of a record that everyone listening right now Will I'm

1660
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,840
sure remember where you were when you heard Riot Whoe

1661
01:13:42,279 --> 01:13:43,520
for the first time. But we had a lot of

1662
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:44,600
fun with the other ones as well well, and it

1663
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:45,079
was a good batch.

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01:13:45,239 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was like it was a nice, like easy

1665
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,159
going album come after you know the Mammoth Low that

1666
01:13:51,359 --> 01:13:54,520
was the nine ninety seven special where outside of like

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01:13:55,239 --> 01:13:56,920
on the round of that, it was like, these albums

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01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,600
are just good fun to listen to me in all

1669
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:03,279
different kind of guys, fun bit hip shaking eighties pop rock,

1670
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,840
just kind of life affirming eighties hardcore and punk and

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01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:11,800
then just the most bludgeoning like brutal death mel But

1672
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,079
the vibes on those three records, which of them, were

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01:14:14,119 --> 01:14:16,199
just going like this is just rocking in it, this

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01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:16,800
is a good time.

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Speaker 2: And I think that was gond like just carried through

1676
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,319
the album Club episode. It was. It was a real

1677
01:14:20,319 --> 01:14:20,840
fun one.

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01:14:21,239 --> 01:14:23,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that what that vibue was going

1679
01:14:23,119 --> 01:14:26,640
for the latter three, I think was the release valve

1680
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,840
and the salvaging of everything after the first album Club

1681
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,039
when we do again try and not just talk about

1682
01:14:33,119 --> 01:14:35,960
isn't it funny when Matt Tuck says you're a leach

1683
01:14:36,199 --> 01:14:39,960
and all those kind of bits, but gauging, yeah.

1684
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,399
Speaker 3: Kind of like the still conclusions we reached about, like

1685
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,079
the changes that Bullet could not have seen coming when

1686
01:14:47,119 --> 01:14:48,880
they were dropping the clunker of Temper.

1687
01:14:49,359 --> 01:14:52,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just gauging what went wrong with the album,

1688
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:55,960
but also gauging the long term effects that no one

1689
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,119
at the time would have really been able to predict

1690
01:14:59,359 --> 01:15:00,840
in the same kind of so I think it was

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01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,560
a very noteworthy album club worth doing in that sense.

1692
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:07,399
I think probably next week here on this show, I

1693
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,079
will announce what our next band special is going to be,

1694
01:15:10,079 --> 01:15:11,199
which is the next thing that we are going to

1695
01:15:11,239 --> 01:15:14,119
be diving into. I think if you've paid attention to

1696
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:15,880
some clues and picked up on some things along the way,

1697
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,920
you might be able to guess who it is. But yeah,

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01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,800
I think I think next week I'll throw that out there.

1699
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,199
And yeah, so Patron dot com slash that's the metal

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01:15:22,359 --> 01:15:23,760
is the place to be for all of that. Let

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01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,840
us end this like really extended. We had fucking so

1702
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,279
many you know, things from again different areas of the

1703
01:15:29,319 --> 01:15:31,840
emotional spectrum really to be talking about this hyperblast, But

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01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,640
let's end it finally now with the release round up,

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01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:39,039
and because we had the new reviews bag last week.

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01:15:39,079 --> 01:15:40,800
We have a couple of weeks to go from, and

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01:15:41,359 --> 01:15:43,840
last week was March twenty seventh, and it's one of

1708
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,760
those weeks kind of like the end of April is

1709
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,000
going to be where just a million albums came out,

1710
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,600
so on top of like some of the records that

1711
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,479
we already spoke about, like for example, the Hell Reppert

1712
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,520
album and the Aggressive Effect album, I hope people have

1713
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,920
checked out those and had fun with those. The other

1714
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,159
stuff that came out last Friday that you is in

1715
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:03,279
and around the TNM spectrum. Don Broco put out their

1716
01:16:03,319 --> 01:16:06,199
newest album, Nightmare Tripping, a band who are continually I

1717
01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:09,319
think they're still big. I think they're still continuing to

1718
01:16:09,359 --> 01:16:12,960
climb and be around. We have Black Label Society with

1719
01:16:13,039 --> 01:16:16,560
Engines of Demolition, of course, Zach Wilde's band. Then the

1720
01:16:17,279 --> 01:16:20,239
you know kind of I think the Tunisian North African

1721
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,920
kind of folk progy metal. My Wrath had Wilderness of Mirrors.

1722
01:16:25,039 --> 01:16:26,640
Then we're going to talk about a bit of metal

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01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,119
court for a little while. First, one that has really

1724
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:31,399
like made the rounds in terms of, you know that

1725
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,600
this particular fan base of this kind of metal core,

1726
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,439
this seems to have been the album of discussion for

1727
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,520
the last couple of weeks. I would say mood Ring

1728
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,000
with Death Fetish and like I said, I've seen lots

1729
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,239
of like praise for this album. I know, Sam that

1730
01:16:43,279 --> 01:16:45,399
you want really quite feeling it in the same way.

1731
01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:49,199
Speaker 3: Well, it's a funny one because I was like, there's

1732
01:16:49,239 --> 01:16:52,119
a band that I've gone on about, Affair, but over

1733
01:16:52,119 --> 01:16:54,479
the last few years who were kind of doing this

1734
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,359
sort of new metal industrial metal core hardcore sort of

1735
01:16:58,399 --> 01:17:01,720
thing with a lot more in ideas for I wonder who.

1736
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:02,199
Speaker 2: Gives you that as me?

1737
01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:05,279
Speaker 3: And like, again, like this is fine, but I didn't

1738
01:17:05,359 --> 01:17:07,079
quite want to put on I was like, is this

1739
01:17:07,159 --> 01:17:10,560
what's like really galvanizing people to like get really like

1740
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,840
knives up of anyone who's not calling this now of

1741
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,760
the year contender. I was just like, it's fine. It's

1742
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,800
kind of new metally rocky metalcore. If you're if you're

1743
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,319
down with that, then you're probably have a good time

1744
01:17:20,359 --> 01:17:20,560
with this.

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01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I checked out a little bit of it. There

1746
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,000
wasn't much to make me want to, you know, spend

1747
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:27,039
that much time with it, but that is out there,

1748
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,279
and you know, if it wasn't praised for that album,

1749
01:17:29,359 --> 01:17:30,760
they might have been praised for this one or the

1750
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,239
more extreme violent end of the metallic hardcore spectrum A

1751
01:17:33,399 --> 01:17:35,520
Chamber with This is Goodbye. You've got feelings on this one?

1752
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:36,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this one.

1753
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 3: This is as polished as kind of like the sort

1754
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,199
of more violent end of metallic hardcore can get, but

1755
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:45,159
it kind of is really kind of like in your

1756
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:47,399
face and violent. I was like, this treads that line

1757
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,359
quite nicely that I did. I did quite like this one.

1758
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. Though from the run of these medical albums, the

1759
01:17:52,319 --> 01:17:54,640
one that I do want to, you know, invest get

1760
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,279
a little bit further come from a Winter's Remorse with

1761
01:17:57,399 --> 01:18:00,000
the Day Our God's abandoned us. And that's because this one,

1762
01:18:00,399 --> 01:18:02,079
upon you know, again checking out a little bit of

1763
01:18:02,079 --> 01:18:06,880
it is it's so like early two thousands metal Corps

1764
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,760
that I would say, at least the songs that I

1765
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:13,000
heard arguably as much straight melodic death metal yeah as

1766
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,199
it is actually particle.

1767
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,359
Speaker 3: I saw the cover of this, or the fonts or

1768
01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:18,000
the angel status was like, I know what I'm getting

1769
01:18:18,039 --> 01:18:18,760
myself in, so I know.

1770
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:19,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like it.

1771
01:18:19,279 --> 01:18:21,359
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, there's actually a bit more

1772
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,840
kind of melodic death on some of this, but I

1773
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,239
think this is that angel statue of calling that I love.

1774
01:18:25,279 --> 01:18:26,920
But we kind of also rag on a little bit

1775
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,920
as a slight punchline for how samee it is with

1776
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:29,840
a little bit more source.

1777
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: I think this is really cool.

1778
01:18:31,039 --> 01:18:33,359
Speaker 3: This is of the sort of run of melalk clubs

1779
01:18:33,399 --> 01:18:35,479
talking about this is the real one I think to

1780
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:36,279
check out.

1781
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one definitely for you know, at the

1782
01:18:38,319 --> 01:18:40,520
gates and in Flames fans and that kind of thing.

1783
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,199
And then one that you've also added onto the metal

1784
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:44,680
core run. We have concealer with this room could be heaven.

1785
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:45,800
So who are these guys?

1786
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:46,279
Speaker 2: This is?

1787
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 3: This is I've been I kind of just heard about

1788
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,399
this week after I saw again people banging on about

1789
01:18:50,399 --> 01:18:50,840
this album.

1790
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,119
Speaker 2: They're a little bit more on the kind of like

1791
01:18:52,119 --> 01:18:54,840
the Static Dress two.

1792
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 3: Thousand's emo kind of revival within metalcore, but again it's

1793
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,159
got like his fingers in slightly more interesting train. I

1794
01:19:01,159 --> 01:19:03,920
think it's a good kind of entry point into more

1795
01:19:04,279 --> 01:19:08,039
like aggressive angular sides of metallic hardcore, but with again

1796
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,840
a modern metal core and kind of naughty' emo machine

1797
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,199
to it. But yeah, I thought this was pretty decent

1798
01:19:13,239 --> 01:19:14,439
and worth so of just throwing.

1799
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: In Yeah Fair and then into the thrash metal terrains

1800
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,960
from the UK, there's Divine Chaos with Hate Reactor from Germany.

1801
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,000
More in the crossover thrash Realm, there's a band called

1802
01:19:24,079 --> 01:19:27,159
Zas that's a Z E double r E. There records

1803
01:19:27,159 --> 01:19:29,760
called Rotting on a Golden Throne. Then we move into

1804
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,439
the kind of emoi world. There's The Twilight Sad, who

1805
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,399
are a band who, like I have known the name

1806
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,680
for ages I you know that I'm not really like

1807
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,159
O fay particularly with them, but they have been you know,

1808
01:19:39,239 --> 01:19:42,600
certainly long gooing for it for a while. They are.

1809
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,720
Their record is called It's the Longerd Bye. Then we

1810
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,000
had a returning record from you know, one of the

1811
01:19:47,079 --> 01:19:49,600
beloved bands of the kind of twenty tens, you know,

1812
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,479
Emo or Potarko or whatever, Boom Tiger's Jaw with Lost

1813
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,479
on You Sam thoughts on the new Tiger's Jaw if

1814
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:56,319
you've ever been a fan.

1815
01:19:56,239 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: Of them again.

1816
01:19:57,079 --> 01:19:59,159
Speaker 3: They were in mys with so many times that that

1817
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:01,720
twenty em thing is I came round too late.

1818
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 2: I really like this.

1819
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 3: I've kind of come out to some of the earlier

1820
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,199
Tigers Shaws a bit more now again change, but this

1821
01:20:07,279 --> 01:20:09,399
is a nice comeback record for the me if you

1822
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,439
like Tiger's Jewel. I think it's much stronger than where

1823
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,960
they left off last time, so this is a nice

1824
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:15,840
solibing term for them.

1825
01:20:16,399 --> 01:20:18,319
Speaker 1: Cool and then to close off fat Run, we have

1826
01:20:18,359 --> 01:20:21,279
a three throw with moments before the Wind to again

1827
01:20:21,359 --> 01:20:24,000
is upcoming your kind of emo E band. I believe

1828
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,159
they're playing the first day of outbreak like the proper

1829
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:28,920
Emo the type day, so that's stats five there. Then

1830
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,239
we pivot into the extreme metal side of things and

1831
01:20:32,279 --> 01:20:34,079
again aside from them again the hell Ripper and that

1832
01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:36,079
kind of stuff. The big release I would say of

1833
01:20:36,079 --> 01:20:39,760
that bunch this week was Winter Philith with the Unyielding Season,

1834
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,439
the long running staples of the UK black metal scene.

1835
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,800
It's like their ninth album at this stage, and I

1836
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,239
would describe this one as being, you know, quality wise,

1837
01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:50,279
fairly similar to the last one in that it's not

1838
01:20:50,359 --> 01:20:52,760
my favorite thing they've ever done, but they always keep

1839
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,439
up such a really reliable standard and there's some really

1840
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,079
good stuff on it as a really great curve of

1841
01:20:57,159 --> 01:20:58,960
enchantment by a paradis lost at the end of it.

1842
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Speaker 2: A very fine album in.

1843
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,319
Speaker 1: Perhaps a little bit more of a buzz record comes

1844
01:21:02,319 --> 01:21:06,520
from Kector Rack with morning Star, which is if you

1845
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,279
are paying attention more to the kind of the the

1846
01:21:08,319 --> 01:21:10,319
slightly raw black metal world, but the bands from that

1847
01:21:10,359 --> 01:21:12,520
world who have really garnered a lot of hype. So

1848
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,600
for example, you look at Lamp of Murmur and stuff

1849
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,680
like that. Kecktor Rack is one that I'm not personally

1850
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,880
as you know, into as like names I just mentioned there,

1851
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,760
but he's kind of like he's become one of the

1852
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:25,880
I don't know, the hot topics of the black metal

1853
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,840
underground because he's kind of the black metal soft boy

1854
01:21:29,039 --> 01:21:31,199
and there's like an emo rapper on this album is

1855
01:21:31,239 --> 01:21:33,079
like it's kind of like if if Lil People was

1856
01:21:33,079 --> 01:21:36,960
in Corpse Paint. Even though it music, you're having flashes

1857
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:37,600
of recognition here.

1858
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,079
Speaker 3: I think I saw a clip of this going viral

1859
01:21:39,119 --> 01:21:40,760
and I was like, what what this is?

1860
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:41,039
Speaker 2: Odd?

1861
01:21:41,159 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 3: Like I'm not sure, however, that that black metal rap thing.

1862
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:45,039
I don't know if that is this or if that's

1863
01:21:45,039 --> 01:21:45,760
a different black.

1864
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is this odd.

1865
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: Musically, a lot of it is just pretty straightforward, like

1866
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,319
you know, sounds like old raw black metal kind of thing,

1867
01:21:54,319 --> 01:21:59,000
but it just has this very like sad boardline emo

1868
01:21:59,079 --> 01:22:01,399
in spirit kind of vibe to it again has made

1869
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,279
him as slightly you know, controversial figure as you can

1870
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,960
you can imagine. But the keckt Irac, you know, I

1871
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,600
think there was a really funny Pitchfork reviewed this album

1872
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,199
as you can tell this week, and there was a

1873
01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:13,760
lot of discourse that started because the writer seemed to

1874
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,159
imply that blast Beats are white supremacist and.

1875
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Speaker 2: It's just a whole thing going on.

1876
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Speaker 1: So black metal, you know, not to be outdone by

1877
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:21,720
the hardcore well and know if it's going on there,

1878
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,239
black metal is still having its you know, silly goings on.

1879
01:22:24,319 --> 01:22:26,199
But anyway, kept direct Morning Star ams out.

1880
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Speaker 2: Now.

1881
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Speaker 1: There was also Cruel Force with Hanaida, which is like

1882
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,960
roto Tom's heavy black speed metal. Basically, if the fact

1883
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,199
that hell Ripper and Aggress Prefector also released appms on

1884
01:22:35,239 --> 01:22:39,039
that day was not enough, you had more. Their Cryptworm

1885
01:22:39,319 --> 01:22:42,560
put out Infectious Pathological Waste, and I think I'm writing

1886
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,840
saying that Cryptworm is the band featuring members of Cryptic Shift,

1887
01:22:47,119 --> 01:22:49,880
but when they're not doing the you know, full on

1888
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,359
fucking head melting jazz thing that we had such a

1889
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:57,560
you know, intense time with on the album reviews. This

1890
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:01,079
is more you know, gory, brutal death metal and in

1891
01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:03,000
the again if you are do want to go for

1892
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,560
the tech deathy side of things. There's growth with under

1893
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,800
the Under Melbourne tech death band, and there was an

1894
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,960
EP that fucking came out of nowhere last week. I

1895
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,239
don't know why they've done this, but Enslaved put an

1896
01:23:13,279 --> 01:23:16,800
EP with the Storm Weather Shanty Choir, which is a

1897
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,760
two track EP of kind of Viking folk chart meats

1898
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,600
sea shanty choir. Thing slave can do whatever they want

1899
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,520
and this is another unexpected entry into that canon. Right

1900
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,880
that was just last week's reviews. Let's finally get onto

1901
01:23:30,079 --> 01:23:33,319
today's releases. In the metal world, I would say the

1902
01:23:33,359 --> 01:23:35,680
big name of the bunch comes from Corrosiona Coformity with

1903
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,840
their first album in a long long time, that eight years.

1904
01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:41,079
It's the double album that we've been anticipating for a

1905
01:23:41,079 --> 01:23:45,000
while called Good God Slash Bad Man. Then there is

1906
01:23:45,039 --> 01:23:47,760
the return of Sun the Drone metal legends. They've got

1907
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,560
a self titled record. There is also Poison Ruin, who

1908
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,119
are the really great like dungeon punk type band. This

1909
01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:58,479
is their second or third full length album, Hymns from

1910
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,520
the Hills is out. There is lant Loos with Nowhere

1911
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,960
in Between Forever. Lantlos one of the kind of early

1912
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,079
twenty tens black gaze pioneers. We have reviewed Lantlos before,

1913
01:24:07,079 --> 01:24:09,319
and on the last Lantlet's record which we reviewed, kind

1914
01:24:09,319 --> 01:24:11,079
of turned away from black gaze into sounding a bit

1915
01:24:11,079 --> 01:24:14,000
more like arcane roots and Biffy Kleiro and like that

1916
01:24:14,039 --> 01:24:16,600
world of like slightly math rooted leaning bat that might

1917
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,039
be ringing a bell somewhere. I don't know if this

1918
01:24:18,079 --> 01:24:20,279
new album is still kind of in that vein. Cover wise,

1919
01:24:20,279 --> 01:24:22,800
I would suggest probably more that than very black metal,

1920
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,079
but that's the vibe there if you are wanting some

1921
01:24:25,119 --> 01:24:28,520
old school SCRAMs, just very very screamo produced by Jack

1922
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,920
Shirley of course, you know a pivotal figure in that

1923
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,000
world at the moment. There's a band called Numers with

1924
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,760
Directions in the kind of indie rock and punk leaning

1925
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,279
world and the nice punk. There's a Masca with Love

1926
01:24:39,359 --> 01:24:43,279
Letters and also Lava Love with tan lines straightforward thrash metal.

1927
01:24:43,319 --> 01:24:47,319
There is Nevosa from South America with Slave Machine. Also

1928
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,560
in the hardcore world, there's a band called Commitment with

1929
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,199
an album called Fear of which features some members of

1930
01:24:52,199 --> 01:24:56,720
Sotglow I know are involved with this Jarbo, the you

1931
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,720
know experimental music icon. You know it has worked with

1932
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,399
Swan's and all these type bands. Sightings is her solo

1933
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,079
record that is out today. And finally there is the

1934
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:11,640
album called Volume two from Angeene Dipoatrine, who are the

1935
01:25:12,079 --> 01:25:14,760
microtonal math rock band who you might have seen have

1936
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,279
kind of gone semi viral in the last like two weeks,

1937
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,479
two three weeks for their you know, their their guys

1938
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,720
and their manner of appearance. But interesting, I've been, you know,

1939
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,640
investigating this over the past couple of days and I'm

1940
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,800
and I'm intrigued, So I'll check out the new Engine

1941
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,119
Dipuatrine record. They are like the I say, microtonal sleep

1942
01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:36,079
paralysis Demons is basically how they would appear. Maybe we'll

1943
01:25:36,119 --> 01:25:38,560
talk about that more. I don't know anyway. That is

1944
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,479
finally the end of this here hyperblasters your releases for

1945
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,760
the last two days. Whole bunch of news there, and yeah,

1946
01:25:47,079 --> 01:25:48,760
take care of yourselves, everybody. It feels like one of

1947
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,520
those weeks where that just feels like it should be

1948
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,960
more important to reaffirm and say so look after yourselves,

1949
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,159
be kind to yourselves. We'll be back next week and

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we hope to see there. Thanks everybody, Bye bye,