Speaker 1: Yo, What is up everybody? How's it going?
Speaker 2: And welcome back to another episode of the One Piece
Virgin podcast. We got the Virgin with me today, Poseidon,
how you doing?
Speaker 3: Hello? I am doing a wonderful How is everybody else doing?
Speaker 1: Pretty good?
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas everybody, Happy holidays, Merry Christmas all. We got
two great guests today, people that came through on Christmas Eve.
We got teching one O one.
Speaker 4: This is a normal day for me. Hello, everybody. This
was like when I was working at the store, I
would always be the guy that worked on Christmas Eve
because I just did not care. Fair.
Speaker 2: Hell, it's good to have a couple of people like that, right, Yeah.
And then and then we got Jordan the anime.
Speaker 5: Dude, Merry Christmas. Everybody happy to be here, happy.
Speaker 2: To help, and it's a it's guys, this was not
planned in any way. This is a complete coincidence. We
got the winter Island, we got the Christmas somewhat themed
island with a and a sleigh and all that. And yeah,
we're covering Drum Island today.
Speaker 4: Boys, you strategically planned this four months ago. He knew
when you started this again that it was gonna be
on Christmas.
Speaker 2: I knew that Poseidon was gonna have to miss a
couple of weeks, that I was going to be on
vacation and moving, and then everything was they get delayed
just for this moment. It was actually all a part
of my eyes in secret master plan.
Speaker 5: And act victim. He's like, please don't do it on
Christmas Eve, and he's like, no, you don't understand. This
is all according to Kakaki right here.
Speaker 2: The cake all right, Poseidon. General thoughts on the arc overall,
how you feeling.
Speaker 3: I absolutely loved it. I actually loved all of Drum Island.
Speaker 4: It was such a fun arc.
Speaker 3: And we finally get to me our good old friend
Tony Tony Chopper, which at this time of recording is
his birthday.
Speaker 1: You stole the fact. You stole the fact.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it, but I would I would
have stolen from.
Speaker 4: So it's his birth birth he's seventeen years old for
the twentieth year in a row.
Speaker 3: Well, like, I actually really loved a Drum Island and
watching it during the Christmas season definitely, I feel like
added to the experience all the snow and everything, and
it was a fun time. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's awesome to hear. I think drum Island, in
my opinions a little bit underrated. A lot of people
don't like it that much. I feel like a lot
of people do tend to rate their arcs based off
of like the fights and the villain and like the
loofy versus whoever he's fighting, when I do think One
Pieces is so much more than that, and it's a
small little arc that I personally have a lot of
favorite moments and characters from Jordan Teching.
Speaker 1: How do you guys feel about Drummer Island? Like, roughly
and general?
Speaker 4: I loved it. I've always loved it. I think back
in the Four Kids era when I first saw it,
it was like during Christmas or around Christmas time, and
I think I remember just waking up early and watching
it like a sadday morning cartoon, and it had this
really warm feeling of just like oh, snow and Chopper
as a straw hat and he's this reindeer character. I'm like,
I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about you, Yodi?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was always one of my favorite early arcs.
You know, you'll love to see it. I always got
annoyed as a kid, because like midway through the arc,
the screen always goes blurry and it's like four ADP.
And then I realized, you know that happens whether you
read the manga or the anime. It's just everything starts
to get really sad all of a sudden. But it's
it's such a good arc, a.
Speaker 2: Lot of sad moments, especially with the with the backstories
with two different characters and everything like that, Besidon, is
there any like specific moments or things you want to
talk about?
Speaker 3: So I understand. I now see where that little meme
comes from of like Chopper just crying what I'm talking
about the Jiff the gift Jiff of like Chopper just
like scream crying. That came from this arc. And when
that popped up, I was like, oh, there it is.
I know where this is from.
Speaker 4: Now. I think that one might be from the ninth movie,
which is a retelling of this, which is weird. It's
it's a strange thing they did with that.
Speaker 2: I I yeah, I think that was the moment between
Loofy and Chopper, and like, it just made me so
happy it did.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, Chopper's backstory was definitely the thing that
made me really sad. I wasn't expecting such kind of
a tragic story coming from such a cute little little.
Speaker 4: Guy, your guy.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the whole doctor like story arc, how Wopple
had like twenty doctors hostage and he got rid of
everybody else and it was just Cooreja and Chopper on
the island.
Speaker 4: Taking care of everybody.
Speaker 3: It was quite sad. And to also like see Dalton
how he was part of Wopple's crew and he saw
how corrupt they were, and you know, he decided to
just kind of join the village and take care of them.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: It was a definitely, uh, talk down my heart strings
type of arc, and I actually really.
Speaker 4: Really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: I think it's also got like a lot of good characters,
like you just mentioned there, You threw it a bunch
of names. You got Dalton such a good guy but
likable character. We got doctor Coreha, like one hundred and
forty year old fucking witch. She's both the she's like
both the Grinch and Santa Claus with doctors.
Speaker 4: Don't let her say one hundred and forty years old.
Speaker 1: She is ninety nine? Well is she won forty one? Now?
Speaker 4: She's won forty one now, sorry that she's spoiling.
Speaker 1: Time goes by in one piece. Sorry, you know, yeah,
she's she's young, she's kicking who else? Doctor here?
Speaker 4: Luck?
Speaker 1: How did you feel about doctor here? Look? Poseidon?
Speaker 3: He At first when I like saw him, he was
just kind of like, I don't want to say whatever,
But I wasn't really that invested in him as like
a character.
Speaker 4: How dare you?
Speaker 1: How dare you?
Speaker 4: Okay? Hold up?
Speaker 3: So as like, you know, he took in Chopper and
started like, you know, teaching him and all of that.
It was I started to really like him as a character.
And that moment where he was like getting sick and
Chopper decides to you know, basically pay back the favor
right of him taking care of Chopper and trying to
find this mushroom that is supposed to supposedly supposed to
heal everything, only for him to accidentally poison him. And
just like hear Locke basically living out his last day
telling Carey how to take care of you know, Chopper
and everything. Oh my god, I was sobbing throughout like
the whole episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's so many sad moments when life
actually when like when Chopper finds out when Chopper is
like absolutely like completely beat up, finally delivers that mushroom
to find out like that's actually poisoned and going to
kill doctor here. Look, but doctor Hilik doesn't let the
mushroom the mushroom kill him.
Speaker 4: No, No, he doesn't. By the way, even if he
would have, Chopper would have technically cured him. I mean,
he'd be dead, but he would technically cure him. There
you go.
Speaker 5: Can't be sick if you're dead.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 3: I guess that's one way to look at it, right,
the ultimate.
Speaker 4: Cure for everything?
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Do you guys have a teching on Jordan? Do you
guys have like a favorite character in this arc?
Speaker 5: You go first, Jordan, I think, honestly, as cliche as
it is, Chopper is probably my favorite character, although I
think you start to appreciate some of the supporting cast
whenever you go back and uh and reread it or
rewatch it, or at least I did I know, Like
here Luck is one where uh, you know, he's a
bit of a kooky guy, so he's not really much
of an actual doctor, and uh, the first time through
at the surface level. That's kind of it is what
it is. You're like, that's it's a little weird, a
little wonky, but I don't know. One Piece is one
of those stories that always has like multiple layers to
the storytelling, and I think this is one of those
arcs that like kind of puts that in your face
a little bit, where he has the slag. He's like,
you know, this is a skull and crossbones, but to
me it represents, you know, eradicating diseases because of what
he went through. So like his whole backstory and and
all that, there's a lot there. There's a lot to appreciate.
Speaker 4: I've always liked Dalton, which sounds surprising to most people
because he's kind of boring, but I always just viewed
him as he's a very down to earth, kind of
relatable character that was the captain of the Guard for
years under Wopple, and he did not he was under
the former king. Didn't like what Wopple was doing. But
it's like, I guess this is my sense of duty.
Maybe it was because out of honor of the old
king or whatever, he kept going along with it, tried
to rebel. It didn't work out, and the people kind
of accepted him and just like, hey, it's okay, we
know you're not as bad as Wopple and his other groups,
so we'll you know, basically making him like the de
facto mayor of the island for the moment. And he
doesn't like that, but it's like, no, it's cool, you're
you're a good guy. So I've always liked Dalton in
his form. It's like like he genuinely tries to fight
back against Wopple. It's awesome.
Speaker 2: I mean, Dalton's is a nice, good guy. He's really rude,
he's really likable. I can see why you like him.
He's really the opposite, like the complete polar opposite of
of Wopple in every way. Yes, like Wopple wants to
be king, Dalton doesn't want to be Well. Wopples an
absolute fucking asshole piece of shit only worries about himself
and no one else like, and Dalton is the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: He puts others first, always over himself.
Speaker 4: I also love that his weapon is basically a shovel,
a shovel with a blade on it. That's basically his weapon.
It's great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say, though Dalton was kind of misled
until he was inspired by uh doctor Hiro. Look. I
think that was kind of the the initiating factor of
kind of where his change began and where his uh
you know, his arc started to kind of change in direction.
And I think that's a very intentional thing, just based
on you have these two different sides of of Drum
Island that you're kind of initially introduced to. You have
that doctor hero luck type side that like has the
uh is, the desire to go help people, but he
doesn't really have to know how or the competence to
do so. And then you have like the side that's
uh like comedically evil and like very tyrannical, where like
he has the twenty doctors and he has all the
resources and whatnot, but he doesn't have any desire to
uh to actually put that to use for the sake
of other people.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you kind of have those two sides clash
and then Dalton's the result of that. You love to
see it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dalton seemed kind of like just like, well, this
is what my job is. I guess I just have
to go with it. And then here looks death was
the thing that was like when he was crying. He
was like, you know, you know anything could be cured?
Is that true for a country? And then that's when
Dalton decided, Okay, I'm done. I'm rebelling against you. I
can't I can't stand for this anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Plus I think he's the first zone we see right
or yes?
Speaker 2: But no but yes, yeah, we say yes, remember yes here,
we say yes here.
Speaker 4: Normal zone yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember as of as of Drum Island. Yes,
this is the first zone hype devil fruit user you
have seen have they went over the three different types
at this point?
Speaker 4: We go through it in this that's where they go
through it. Yeah, okay, where there were types, yes, zone,
paramica and logia.
Speaker 5: Mm hm oh I see which.
Speaker 4: Smoker was a logia He could turn into an element
loofy is Parameisa, he could turn into rubber and animals
or zones.
Speaker 5: See okay, I only have that human memory too, but
it's nice to have the Encyclopedia memory. Reference.
Speaker 4: Will do anything to throw a wrench into that system.
Speaker 1: I'll never fucking forget.
Speaker 2: There was an episode of I used to host this
game show called Buster Bust We get guest characters where
you get where you guest characters based off of their
chest and I put a character from one piece and
Teching got it immediately.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, well that was really fast.
Speaker 2: He's like, also, it's chapter one eleven, page four or
something like that.
Speaker 4: You used a very very obvious one. I can't remember
which one it was, but I like knew what you
want we're referring to immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it was Bonnie. But anyway, Poseidon,
how do you feel about? Okay, so, Posidon, prior to
doing the Wumpe' vision was had watched the live action,
But now what you're in completely new territory and you're
and you're meeting a brand.
Speaker 1: New straw hat. How do you feel about our boy
Chopper joining the crew?
Speaker 3: I honestly think Chopper might be my favorite character.
Speaker 1: No way, I have like.
Speaker 3: A very weak like, I'm very weak for animal like
type mascot characters like I love, I love animals and
all the sort. So I think Chopper is so adorable.
His voice is so adorable, and I just think it's
it's so funny that he's just a little doctor guy.
Speaker 4: He's there as a marketing character. Yeah, the adorable animal mascot,
which is great.
Speaker 5: Forgot how much of us sooner he was too, as
far as he's like, don't praise me or anything. Yeah,
but like he just gets yeah.
Speaker 2: Or like yeah, the little hiding, just the little hiding
behind the behind the wall the wrong way, like little
thing cute.
Speaker 1: He is so cute, dude.
Speaker 5: Inert breaks twitch mote here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I realized, which I never realized
in the past, Like I know that like they had
to like nerf Zoro sometimes and make him injured, blah
blah blah. But Posidon pointed out last time with Little
Garden and Whiskey Peek, like Sondre really didn't have any
time to shine, Like he fought a little bit on
Little Garden very briefly and like talk the crocodile on
the phone, but like it was mainly like Loofy and
Zoro and and like Nammy and and who stopped fighting
and Sonji wasn't really part of the main fight. And
then this time around, Zorrol is going for a fucking swim.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, just after the recent arc where he almost
like hacked his feet off. Yeah, you know, it's just like, yeah,
let's stitch him up. Yeah, I'll go for a swim
in ice water. Yeah, why not? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's interesting. It's like because you have
this like monster trio, Loofy, Zorro and Sandy, it's upon
rewatch and even off of like beside him pointing it out,
I'm like, oh shit. In these arcs, you never have
all three of them really fighting. Oh other than Arlon Park,
other than Arlong Park. It's like one person has to
be taken out of it. And Zoro was off doing
his own thing while Sonjy and Lofy were fighting at
the castle.
Speaker 4: That's what Oda has to do a lot of times
to nerve Zoro. Just have him not be around you,
because it's like you'll end it.
Speaker 5: Not only that, just like nerving him personality wise, like
he's so dumb at times. He's not only taking like
an ice swim, but he's like I saw a fish,
I thought that was weird. I figured I'd chase it.
Ended up in the woods, started walking around, got caught
in an avalanche, like on his own adventure.
Speaker 4: That Zoro is it's not just a lack of sense
of direction. He is kind of dumb throughout this arc.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a stranger, dude. Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I want to hear something absolutely crazy that the boys
pointed out to me. Teching and Jordan pointed out to me,
I was just Rewald watching the episodes on stream, and
there's a scene where Dalton cuts down Wopple and then
his like twenty fucking mds show up and starts stitching
them back together, hammering them back together, and boom, he's alive,
back and going.
Speaker 1: He just got like slashed in the anime.
Speaker 2: In the manga, he got his head cut off, he
gets decapitated.
Speaker 4: Oh is he still alive? Because manga because.
Speaker 5: It's literally one panel that's gone and they're like, oh,
you forgot to put his head back on next panel.
Speaker 4: He's just yeah, it's it's done as a joke. But
like the implication is the doctors are so good they
can even Reattach a separate head, which okay, but it.
Speaker 2: Could also be something with his double fruit or I guess, like, yeah,
he's put together with fucking nails and stuff like that.
Like he's not a normal he's not a normal human
by any means.
Speaker 4: Maybe these are crazy, yeah, very.
Speaker 5: Wild, speaking of wild injuries, like this isn't something I remember,
and like I said, I reread a little bit of
it this morning. But whenever uh Sonji was fighting the
rabbits and stuff they got up of the mountain, They're like,
he broke ticks, ribs and practice spine, and I'm like
practice fine. I'm like, yeah, I was reading that. I'm like, like,
what kind of cure did they get to get him
back up on his feet so soon?
Speaker 4: Like they're fine, medicine that'll fix your spine?
Speaker 1: What type of injury? What type of injury? Spinal?
Speaker 5: Exactly?
Speaker 4: Loofy climbing up a I think they they mentioned it's
like five vertical miles, completely bare handed with sandals and
like no jacket, and he's like severe frostbite and they
just like throw him in hot water to fix that.
I'm like, ah, okay.
Speaker 5: That was one of my favorite scenes when I was younger,
and I still love it to death because you know,
he's carrying two of his comrades. He's in a blizzard.
Army thinks that they they saw Goku climbing like Current
Tower and stuff. I would have saw that, and he's like,
I could do you one better. What about carrying two
people in a bulizzard like Yeah.
Speaker 2: How did you feel about that scene? Like, not only
was it bad as I think, it was also the
emotional Loofy climb that mountain. How do you feel about it?
Speaker 4: It made me?
Speaker 3: It did make me feel emotional because you could tell
how much he cares like about Nam, which, by the way,
I did mention last arc that I'm like, there's something
going on with Nom because she had that like little
bug bite or something, and it turns out it led
to Drum Island because they needed to find a doctor
for her. So to see how like Lufy was getting
so emotional over like no me and he was just like,
I am going to get her to this doctor no
matter what.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It made me love Lufy.
Speaker 4: Fun fact, that was also something that was added in
the anime. They don't show her getting bit by it.
In the manga. They added, yes, they added that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think we saw the bite itself happened. You
just see like the mark.
Speaker 4: Yeah you see the mark later? Yeah yeah anime. Yeah.
In the anime, she actually does say like ow, something
just bit me. Oh really.
Speaker 3: Zora was asking like ye, are you okay.
Speaker 4: And she's like yeah, it's fine, and it's like, oh,
okay whatever.
Speaker 5: The fact called that out there and was like, I
think that's gonna be something that was it was relevant.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, that might be. That might be,
that might be.
Speaker 4: I want to get your opinion on something. In the chat,
I posted the original design that Oda had for Chopper.
Oh my god, what is that? The rand cafe? Just
general chat? I put it in there.
Speaker 5: What sorry, I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 4: God, it's the one. It's I just clicked on ran cafe.
Speaker 3: Just open chat, It's there, it is.
Speaker 4: You got it? Yeah, so that's the original design. I
would have went through a couple, but I'm glad he
changed the overall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, why why is he looks so like fucking
old and droopy?
Speaker 1: That was smoking a candy cane with he did?
Speaker 4: He did? He was a smoker at the beginning. There
was a couple of designs of him he's smoking and
a few of them. Yeah, yeah, I guess he moved
that over to Sanji will be the smoker, I guess.
Speaker 5: Which. That's one of the weird things about One Piece
to Me and stuff is there so many characters that, like,
I feel like, would be much more popular and cool
if they uh, they just had a different design as
far as like Wopple, like he's a king character that's
introduced he he ran away, but he ran away from Blackbeard,
which when Blackbeard first introduced, he's like not scared of dragon,
Like there's these other all these things introduced with Wopple
and whatnot, but he's just so goofy looking, like.
Speaker 4: He's just very goofy looking.
Speaker 1: And don Kreeg are voiced by the same character, and.
Speaker 4: They're like that does not surprise me.
Speaker 2: By their voice by the same voice actor and two
of probably two of the most people's like least favorite
villains in early one Piece.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, I really like, honestly, I did not
care much for Wopples a villain.
Speaker 4: He was not even thin. In finn version Wopple that
was great. He was so sexy.
Speaker 5: What about Chess? What about chess?
Speaker 4: Chess? I thought Chess was cooler.
Speaker 5: Than okay, And I hadn't read One Piece in a
little while, especially like Drum Island Dark, so like jumping
back into just this arc in particular and starting out
where you just see Chess walking on water and there's
just this awkward moment of them like looking at him
and he's looking at them, and I'm like, you forget
how goofy one piece can be with characters like that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I had to redo that entire I looked
at that reindeer that teching scent, and I closed one
of the tabs by accident, so I had to redo.
Speaker 1: That entire set up there. I am sorry, No, it's
not your fault. I'm apologizing to chest. How do you
feel about some of the fights, Besidon, any anything about that?
Speaker 3: I I really enjoyed it. One of my favorite moments
was when Sanjy was fighting woffles.
Speaker 4: Like side chess o Marimo in chess, yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Like he got like the little hair ball stuck on
him and he was just like trying to get it off.
I thought that was really funny. But even like the
fights with the bunny the big rabbits, that was fun.
Speaker 1: It was so funny at first.
Speaker 2: Actually, when like Lufi and Saunders having a casual conversation
dodging the first like blopping over and over and over again,
I thought that was great. The little things in Early
One Peace I find so fucking funny.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: The bunnies were cool and like you know the fact
they were. The size of bears is scary and all.
But I think my favorite animal in this arc was
a hiking bear, which was just bound to it. He's
like common, Curtis a dude.
Speaker 1: What about Robson Robson white?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want a plushy of Robson. I think they
make them. Actually I need to look into that. Yeah. No,
Robson is just like I just like, I hate this.
This guy is carrying me around and stuff. I really
don't care for this. And he gets the raw end
of the deal too, because Lupy Bazoo, because I think
him as well. So it's like both of them launched
my stratosphere.
Speaker 1: He didn't.
Speaker 5: You ever could see like how the legs actually look
in the in the anime extends. Yeah, like he's over
adapted for the snow. He's so comfortable in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very very fuzzy.
Speaker 1: What else did you?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: You got to see Chopper fighting, which was cool and
his different Uh.
Speaker 4: I love the different forms. The first time I saw that,
that was such a cool concept to me.
Speaker 5: I feel like that's just a cool concept for every
every teenager out there that transformations. That's just such a
shown in thing. Yeah, that is the coolest thing.
Speaker 3: See, I wasn't expecting because I've seen Chopper like in
the past, because you know, it's the one piece mascot.
I was not expecting Chopper to have like the human
devil fruit where he can just tart himself into basically
a reindeer human. That really caught me off guard because
I've never seen that before. But I was very surprised
to see how strong Chopper is. Like you think this
little old guy couldn't do you any harm, but no,
he can transform into a big buff humanity.
Speaker 5: And he's adorable. But he has steroids, don't He's strong as.
Speaker 1: Ready get ready for his bounty? Dude, get ready for
his bounty. He's strong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get ready for that soon. And this is
original design Chopper. He goes through some design shifts as
the story goes on. You know how like the original
Pikachu and Red and Blue was like kind of chubby
and then then they slimmed him down a lot. That
kind of happens with Chopper throughout the anime.
Speaker 3: Oh really, okay, I'll have to pay attention then.
Speaker 4: To yeah, what he looks like.
Speaker 5: He's cute. Throughout the all versions of Chopper jumping point.
Speaker 4: Jumping point is my favorite. I love jumping point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything you want to mention about VV in uh
in the ark, I.
Speaker 3: I honestly didn't pay too much attention to her because
I was so focused on every everything else. But I
am really excited to see what she does in the future.
I do like the bond that she did have with
Dalton because I think both of them had a lot
that they could like talk about and relate to just
based off of both of their situations, like how she
was a her kingdom was basically getting taken over, and
then something similar happened to Dalton as well with Wopple.
So I really liked those both of their relationships. I
understand why they didn't really put too much focus on
her on this arc because I know the next arc
is basically just.
Speaker 4: Going to be like, yeah, it's gonna be like her arc, right, yeah, yeah,
that's a good comparison. And we find out at the
end of this arc, like Wopple and VV met before
at the World Council. It's called revery, you know, and
so that's like a reference there, and Dalton knew her
from that.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I saw there was one thing I really liked with
with VV at the beginning of the arc, where like
Nami wanted to go straight to Alabasta and no detour,
and then VV has that moment where it's like, well,
I guess we gotta stop off at the nearest island
and find you a doctor. That way we can go
as quick as possible. And it was a really wholesome
moment that I really appreciated. It made me fall, like
fall even a little bit more in love with VV
and want her to join.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then she no, I was gonna go ahead.
I was just gonna say she talks to the islanders
because they just wanted to shoot them, and she's like
wait no, and she even gets shot. She gets great.
Oh yeah. You know.
Speaker 3: Something I wanted to like kind of note as well,
was is v V a NAMMY's relationship because I remember
back in gosh, I'm so bad at remembering these names,
but like the baroque island, okaycds, we're VV was begging
them like please take me back to Alabasa and Tommy's
like I'll do it for a price, Like I'll do it.
But then as like the story goes on, right, you
see Nammy and DV grow this bond, and Nommy is
just like, no, no, no, we need to take vv back.
We need to take vv back. Like now, it's not
just about money. She genuinely just cares about VB and
wants her to go home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they develop like a rather sisterly bond. And also
just the fact I think she's just happy there's another
like woman on the crew that she can relate to.
With a bunch of dudes up until this point, I'm like, Okay,
this is kind of nice.
Speaker 1: Two things I just want to mention, Like for me,
like this arc.
Speaker 2: The reason why I say it's underrated is because whatever,
it has some good moments, and like it's not like
the biggest, most memorable arc, But there's two moments within
the arc that I feel like are still some of
my favorite moments within all of one Piece. And that's
one Loofy climbing the mountain, like we talked about earlier,
like homies in a fucking tank top in a blizzard,
his fingers are bleeding and frostbites happening. He's climbing a
straight up mountain that.
Speaker 1: Is literally just like scaling it. It's just completely straight
up ten thousand Is it how high?
Speaker 4: I believe it's five five thousand meters it yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like five thousand meters in the air, and
he's carrying both Sandy and Namby and then when he
finally gets to the top, he throws them both over
and then passes out like he achieved his goal. And
then immediately like this goes unconscious as they are both
they kind of brought the safety like. That was one
moment I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: It hit me hard.
Speaker 2: And the next one it's obviously doctor here looks death
and the line that he says before he dies, it's
just like a quote that I love within one piece.
I don't remember the exact quote. I don't want to butcher.
Speaker 4: Basically, he basically says that when does a man die.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's when he's forgotten, right, It's not when he
takes a bullet or whenever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not when he drinks the scene with a
poisonous mothroom or a or gets shot by a pistol
or a cannon or anything like that, right exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think that was what really really spoke to
Dalton right there with that moment.
Speaker 4: And it's really added its attitude in the anime because
they use like an actual They use ave Maria in
the anime, which is something rare. They don't usually do
something like that, like an actual, like like Orchestra, but
it like brings the scene together. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of any else. Are there any
big moments you remember, Poseidon or either even you two
that you guys want to talk about.
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 3: When he got yeaded into the sky Team rocket style.
Speaker 4: That was that was so sad. He was just he
was just there. He didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: In fact, I remember there was a moment where like
Wopple was telling Robson to do something and he just did,
like I don't want to do this whatever, Like he
just didn't.
Speaker 4: He didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Poseidon. I have a question for you. Yeah, no spoilers, guys.
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly how much has talked about or
how much is shown within this arc, but two characters
were brought up. We got to see or hear about
Blackbeard and about I believe Ace.
Speaker 4: We see, yes, we see. We don't see his face,
but we see he's there.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember anything about them or like,
have any any comments Poseidon.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how much they were
talked about.
Speaker 3: I just remember Ace being shown at the end of
like the last episode of the arc where he's just
like I'm looking for the straw hats or something, and
I'm like, oh, no, I know who this is, and
then he was just acting all goofy at the end. Well,
I'm really excited to meet Ace. You know, I have
friends that are also really into One Piece, and they
talk about Ace all the time, and.
Speaker 4: I wonder why.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to meet him. And black Beard, that
is a name I have heard a lot because I'm
also playing the One Piece TCG right now. That's like
a new that's one of the newer decks as well,
so I'm very kind of familiar with who black Beard is.
Speaker 4: And also just like it's a pirate manga and there's history.
I mean, like Blackbird's like the most famous pirate ever,
so there he was going to show up at some point.
That was kind of like expected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm excited to meet him as well, see
what he he has got, Like I don't know if
he is like going to be coming soon.
Speaker 5: By you'll find out a thousands in like a thousand.
Speaker 4: Episodes where he actually just showed up in the last chap,
crazy twenty four years it took.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's so fucking funny teching. Like I started
off with the first episode of Drum Island and like
within the first like ten seconds, Ousap and Loufier like
El Bath.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to go to l Bath.
Speaker 4: It's so rare. You sure you sure will?
Speaker 1: You sure will someday.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I just loved so Like for Poseidon, it
probably doesn't seem this way, but for like us, it's
this is so early into one piece. So I really like,
I really appreciate going through this with Poseidon, and like
I appreciate it as well.
Speaker 1: Just because I get to see like these names like
Ace and Blackbeard. I'm like, oh my god, they're being dropped.
Speaker 4: So early on. Dude. I remember reading because there used
to be a Shonen Jump magazine that would be sold
in American like stores, and it was like a slim
down version that you could get. And I remember reading
Little Guard and Drum Island and that when I was
in middle school, when I was like twelve years old.
And now I'm almost thirty two and.
Speaker 2: We're still talking about Drum Island one or two of those,
but I think it was around that same time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was back like mid two thousands, kind of
place like six and stuff. I remember getting them. Yeah,
so where did we.
Speaker 1: End off with the last episode?
Speaker 5: Side?
Speaker 1: And do you know, like what's happening where they're going
and stuff like that. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Swell they I believe they are going to Alabasta. I
think yeah, they are going to be heading towards there.
So yeah, I did look a little bit ahead. It
is going to be a forty.
Speaker 4: So this is a long arc. It is this is
the longest arc at this point. Yeah, Alabasta's. But it's
a great conclusion to the little saga that's been going
on the last couple of parts.
Speaker 3: I am looking forward to it.
Speaker 4: I'm very, very excited.
Speaker 1: So you should be decided how do you want to
do this?
Speaker 2: Do we want to take a little bit of a
longer break and you could get through all of it,
or do you want to split it up into like
two We could do it two. We could do two
episodes on and split into like twenty episodes and twenty episodes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing I think that would work best doing
just splitting it, okay, just so we can go halfway.
I can talk about like the first half, and then
we'll talk about the second half because.
Speaker 1: Going forward that sounds good to me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to look into it and see exactly
like a good stopping point or a good cutoff point,
because like twenty and twenty, I don only need to
be like halfway through something, So it might be eighteen
and twenty two or something. But I'll look into it
and find you and I'll tend you a message.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, I'm still I'm still a big, big supporter of
one pace.
Speaker 1: I know you're I shouldn't be pushing you if you're
enjoying doing it the normal way, but I am a
big supporter of one pace.
Speaker 2: A lot of people in chat don't like it, and
they get mad that I say this, but like I
think it's just it makes the pacing.
Speaker 1: It gets worse and worse and worse throughout.
Speaker 4: The series, and I just make it so much. I mean,
at this point, I wouldn't say it's that big of
a deal, but it does kind of slog once you
get to certain arcs. Like Any's Lobby has a lot
of like chapters and episodes that take breaks from the
main plot. Then it's it would be nice just to
watch it in all one thing, you know.
Speaker 5: I know the arc I started reading the manga rather
than watching the animan stuff. It was an arc that
lasted over one hundred episodes, so you think forty ft, I.
Speaker 4: Know what you're talking about. Oh yeah, but a lot
of that. That's the problem is a lot of that
is filler and it's and it needs to be cut
down significantly.
Speaker 5: It was like they would adapt like one chapter into
like one episode with like sort of recap at the start,
and like a lot I know.
Speaker 4: What you're talking about. Sometimes it was literally less than
a half of a chapter.
Speaker 5: It was so that but I really watched it since
then there was a reason.
Speaker 4: Why they did that. But like, it's so it's such
a hard thing to watch sometimes with that arc.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was.
Speaker 2: There was one arc that was my entire high school life.
It took four years to get through.
Speaker 1: I started.
Speaker 2: I remember I made like a review at the beginning
of high school and then I'm like ending high school.
I'm like, wait, we're in the same arc. We're in
the same fucking arc, and that's when I started reading
the manga. Guys couldn't I couldn't do it specially tells
we're always watching week to week.
Speaker 1: It's easier when you binge, but in general, you.
Speaker 2: Think like One Piece is like a fucking masterpiece, but
the animate kind of butchers it at times. So keep
on pushing your way through beside him. But at any point,
don't feel terrible if you want to start reading the
manga or doing or watching One Piece.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm honestly like starting to consider it. I'm gonna
try to get through Alabasa to see how I feel,
but there may just come a point where almost like
I'm done.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 5: More than any other series. I think One Piece is
one of those where it's not necessarily trying to get
to the end. That's the point. It's like just enjoying
the journey.
Speaker 4: So make sure exactly I'm picturing you, like in a bar,
just drinking straight whiskey and just being like back in
the high school days. I know about that, you know, like.
Speaker 5: Back in my day, Back in my day, One Piece
was enjoying the insert arc name here.
Speaker 4: I don't insert arc name here that we haven't gotten
to yet.
Speaker 2: Dude, it's actually fucking crazy that, like pretty mu, all
three of us have been watching or reading One Piece
for over a decade, Like I think it's going on,
Like it is a wild thirteen.
Speaker 4: Fourteen years for me, right, mine is close to if
you count like the four Kids dub is when I
first started watching it, and that was five, so it's
close to twenty years. That's fucking wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Poseidon just a little baby getting into it.
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 3: I'm a little party.
Speaker 1: Never is so exciting.
Speaker 2: It's so exciting re gooing through it with someone, getting
someone into it, hearing how passionate and excited they are
about certain things, like when when you're like.
Speaker 1: I think Chopper is my favorite character, like it is,
like it makes me so happy.
Speaker 3: I want a Chopper plushy.
Speaker 4: Now, well you could definitely find one. There's a lot
there's character is working. There's probably the most merch comes
from Chopper. I would assume any.
Speaker 1: Any final thoughts on this arc or on One Piece
in general, Guys.
Speaker 6: I want Nico Robin now I understand that totally, but uh,
you know, well we'll get to her in the next start.
Speaker 5: Trading card addiction continue it us.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think honestly, the car the card
game has making has been making me love One Piece
more because then I'll look at a car and be like,
I'm probably not going to see this for a little bit,
but it makes me like look forward, Like it makes
me like look forward to continuing One Piece where.
Speaker 4: This car came from. I love the artwork on the
like the super rare stuff. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool. It's really cool, Jordan taking any
any like.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a great art for Christmas if you
want to just go back and reread it or rewatch it.
Some of my favorite scenes in this like one of
my favorite moments of all time would probably be in
my top ten is when Lufy's asking kre Keel, Nami
and Sanji before he worries about himself. That's probably one
of my favorite seasons story right there. Period. I love that.
Speaker 5: Jordan, Yeah, no, thank you for having me. It was
really fun rereading the arc and getting to talk to
everybody about it. So hopefully everybody out there has a
merry Christmas.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, everybody. Check out all the boys the anime
Dude on Twitch, techings everywhere, Poseidon's everywhere, check the boys out.
Love you guys HIMPACKU by the way. This podcast on
Spotify and stuff too.
Speaker 4: Bye Bye Everybody by Heavy Birthday Chopper, God your hair
is blue.