1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,719 my daily show prep with all of the links, become 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,359 a patron, go to thepeakclendarshow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:28,320 much for your support. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,679 Speaker 2: It has been a busy last couple of days in 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,920 North Carolina politics. Of course, one of the big stories 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,399 last week Governor Josh Stein giving his State of the 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,799 State address. To get some continued analysis and reaction to that, 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,600 it's my pleasure to welcome Andrew Dunn, the publisher of 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,359 long Leaf Politics and a contributing columnist over at the 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,880 Charlotte Observer, to the Peak Calendar Show this afternoon. Andrew, 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,759 thanks for the time walk us through what your reaction 18 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:56,560 was to Governor Stein's first State of the State address 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,560 last Wednesday night. 20 00:00:58,799 --> 00:01:00,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, and it's good to talk to you. 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,840 I mean, really, it almost felt like two different speeches 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,959 when he started. When Governor Stein started, honestly, I was 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,959 a little impressed at the beginning. He was, you know, 24 00:01:12,079 --> 00:01:16,000 sounding all the right notes, talking in a very bipartisan fashion, 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,280 even praising some bills that Republicans were pushing that I 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,480 was honestly surprised that he would come out in support of, 27 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:27,040 for example, one on a banning cell phone use in schools. 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,040 But then about halfway through, the switch flips and he 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,400 went right back to the same playbook that we were 30 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:39,280 used to seeing from Governor Roy Cooper, hyperpartisan, dishonest, you know, 31 00:01:39,359 --> 00:01:44,280 attacking Republican motives around things like school choice, the economy, 32 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:47,519 tax cuts, things like that. So disappointing to see that, 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,640 but I guess it wasn't super unexpected. 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,599 Speaker 4: You know, I'm glad you bring that up. 35 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,599 Speaker 2: I had this similar reaction to it, I mean right 36 00:01:54,599 --> 00:01:56,239 out of the gate, when you were like, wow, this 37 00:01:56,319 --> 00:01:58,640 is something that we have not seen in North Carolina 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,879 and at least the last eight year under Democrat Governor 39 00:02:01,959 --> 00:02:02,640 Roy Cooper. 40 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but Andrew, talk is cheap. 41 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: It's easy to stand in front of the General Assembly, 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,439 that joint Session and claim that you want to act 43 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:12,840 in a bipartisan manner, to do some of these things 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,840 in a bipartisan manner. But you look at the at 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,240 the time the Attorney general's track record is, which is 46 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,840 the previous position he held, He didn't act in that 47 00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:23,759 manner at all. Don't we have to use his track 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,199 record as an indication of what's going to happen in 49 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:26,680 the future. 50 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it's still pretty early in this legislative session, 51 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,439 the first one that Stein is the governor for, and 52 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:40,120 I think we're going to know really quickly how he's 53 00:02:40,199 --> 00:02:42,479 actually going to govern. You know, he said a lot 54 00:02:42,479 --> 00:02:45,280 of the right things and as inauguration address and here 55 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,520 in the State of the State, but he really hasn't 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,280 gotten any bills to his desk yet. So we're going 57 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,759 to see, especially with this budget that's coming together. You know, 58 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,560 how is Governor Stein going to approach it. Is he 59 00:02:56,719 --> 00:02:59,120 actually going to try to find common ground like you 60 00:02:59,159 --> 00:03:01,479 said he would, or is he going to go back 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,960 to what Governor Cooper did and you know, veto unless 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,439 it's everything that he wants. 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. 64 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: I think many folks have described it as kind of 65 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:13,840 the honeymoon period is still on between the Republican led 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,400 General Assembly and the Democrat governor and Josh Stein. You 67 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,000 talk a little bit about this budget process, Andrew things 68 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,280 are going to start ramping up here, sooner rather than later. 69 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,919 Those fights in the past have been pretty nasty and 70 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,159 have drawn out into the late summer, even close to Christmas. 71 00:03:29,199 --> 00:03:31,439 Back a couple of years ago. When do you expect 72 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:32,479 all of that to get started. 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's it's already started. Kind of how it 74 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,840 works is, you know, at this period of time, in 75 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:42,879 the March April time frame, you're going to see a 76 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:46,400 lot of Republicans put out bills around spending issues. So 77 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:50,439 a great example, as Representative Aaron Perey from Waite County, 78 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,159 she had a bill on raising entry level teacher paid 79 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:56,039 to fifty thousand dollars. So that bill is not going 80 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,080 to go anywhere, but what it's going to do is 81 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,240 it's going to be become part of the budget negotiation. 82 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:05,639 So right now, everybody's kind of putting out their priorities, 83 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,719 and then in the next month or two you're going 84 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,719 to start seeing committees come together to weigh all that 85 00:04:12,759 --> 00:04:15,960 and come up with an actual full budget proposal. I 86 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,279 haven't seen any anybody say this is the date we're 87 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,680 shooting for. Usually that's kind of how it works is 88 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:26,319 either you know a Senator Burger or new House Speaker 89 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:28,319 Deston Hall will say, yeah, we're looking to have a 90 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:31,040 draft of a budget by X date. I haven't heard 91 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,879 that yet, but I don't think it'll be too far 92 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,040 into the future. 93 00:04:35,639 --> 00:04:36,519 Speaker 4: No question about that. 94 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:39,439 Speaker 2: And of course we did see that legislative calendar from 95 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Deston Hall indicating that things should be wrapped up before 96 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,519 the new fiscal year starts July one of this year. 97 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,160 So as we watch everything that's going on in the 98 00:04:48,199 --> 00:04:52,120 General Assembly, we watched the relationship Andrew. At the national level, 99 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,839 there's been some recent polling I spent some time talking 100 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,920 about it yesterday that shows very low approval for the 101 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:01,040 Democrat Party. And again that's at the national level. Do 102 00:05:01,079 --> 00:05:04,360 you think that impacts Governor Josh Stein in North Carolina 103 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:08,319 Democrats as they try and navigate a strong Republican majority 104 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,279 in the House and the Senate here across the state. 105 00:05:11,959 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it does. I mean there a national 106 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,399 Democrat perception problem does filter down to the state level. However, 107 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,560 and the Roy Cooper wing of the Democratic Party, they 108 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:28,560 have been able to insulate themselves at least a little 109 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,000 bit from the national perception. I think that's especially why 110 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,600 you're seeing Josh Stein talk a lot about bipartisanship, working 111 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:38,879 across the aisle, that sort of thing. He's trying to 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,879 carve out his niche as kind of the Josh Shapiro 113 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,199 style Democrat. You know, whether that will work because he 114 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:48,920 also faces pressures from the other side, right, I mean, 115 00:05:48,959 --> 00:05:52,240 there's plenty of people in the Democratic Party who will 116 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,279 bristle against that and want him to be more of 117 00:05:55,319 --> 00:06:00,480 your national liberal type of political figure. So it'll be 118 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,120 interesting to see not only how he navigates working with Republicans, 119 00:06:04,399 --> 00:06:06,879 but also how he tries to fend off kind of 120 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,639 the lunatic fringe of the Democratic Party. 121 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:13,439 Speaker 2: You know, it's an unfortunate circumstance and scenario that we're in. 122 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,759 Of course, Hurricane Helene has completely dominated the North Carolina 123 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,360 news cycle since September of last year. Governor Stein walks 124 00:06:21,399 --> 00:06:24,120 into that problem. It's not something he created. Do you 125 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,199 think that maybe draws the General Assembly and the governor 126 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,720 closer than if there wasn't such a major natural disaster 127 00:06:31,079 --> 00:06:33,160 that the state is going to have to handle otherwise. 128 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And Governor Stein at least seems like he's 129 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,199 open to working with Republicans more on that. I mean, 130 00:06:42,199 --> 00:06:46,439 that's one of the biggest stains on Governor Cooper's tenure 131 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,839 as governor, is how abysmal a failure he was a 132 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:53,959 disaster response. And I would love to hear what Governor 133 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,920 Stein says to Destin Hall and Philberger in private on 134 00:06:56,959 --> 00:07:00,600 that and honestly what he says to Cooper about as well. 135 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:05,000 But at least the indications I'm getting are that Governor 136 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,839 Stein is saying the right things to Republicans about working 137 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:11,680 with them on disaster relief and hopefully it's going to 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,600 yield better results for the people of western North Carolina 139 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,319 and eastern North Carolina. To be honest, I mean, we're 140 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,279 eight nine years past some of these hurricanes, and we've 141 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:25,079 still got people living in hotels in eastern North Carolina. 142 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:27,639 Speaker 2: Now you're talking about the disaster that was the North 143 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,439 Carolina and still continues to be the North Carolina Office 144 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:34,319 of Recovery and Resiliency. Andrew, obviously you're talking about and 145 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:37,160 we're shouting about it from the political landscape this morning. 146 00:07:37,399 --> 00:07:39,519 But as you look at what's going on in DC 147 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,720 with the Trump administration and their conversation about stripping down 148 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,519 and cutting out FEMA and making that the state's responsibility 149 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,560 to essentially turn FEMA into a blank check writing operation. 150 00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:54,160 There's got to be a lot of North Carolina citizens 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,680 that have eyebrows raised as to whether the state can 152 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,439 actually handle something as large as hurricane relief, with Matthew 153 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:02,879 and Florence victims, as you noted, still living in hotel 154 00:08:02,959 --> 00:08:04,040 rooms for almost a decade. 155 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're exactly right, And you know, from a philosophical standpoint, 156 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,240 I'm certainly open to that, you know, kind of pushing 157 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:14,160 some of that power down to the states. I think 158 00:08:14,199 --> 00:08:17,399 that's what the founding fathers intended for our federalist system. 159 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,600 But yeah, I mean I would absolutely be concerned with 160 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:26,560 pouring more money into a system that is still broken. 161 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,680 You know, Luckily, the wheels of government tend to move slowly, 162 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:33,919 and I am optimistic about some of these The committees 163 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:36,159 of the General Assemblies put together to look at this, 164 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,320 and you know, if there were ever to be a 165 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,480 massive shift like that, I would fully expect there to 166 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,840 be a lot of planning, a lot of work. You know, 167 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,240 get Dave Dave Bullock, the new state auditor involved, to 168 00:08:49,279 --> 00:08:52,120 help root out some of the problems in the previous 169 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,200 system and create a better one. 170 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: Andrew, there's a lot going on. If folks need to 171 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,840 keep track of everything. What's the place best way to 172 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:00,320 keep up with you and all the things that you're 173 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,279 tracking and following. 174 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, best way is to look up long Leaf Politics. 175 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,120 It's long leafpol dot com. 176 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: Andrew Dunn joining us this afternoon on the pe Counter Show. 177 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,200 He's the publisher of long Leaf Politics Politics and also 178 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:16,559 a contributing columnist over at The Charlotte Observer. 179 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,759 Speaker 4: Andrew, thanks so much for the time. 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Your subscription 200 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,759 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 201 00:10:21,799 --> 00:10:25,080 Ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 202 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: So yesterday we're chatting a little bit about the back 203 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:32,559 and forth with this ruling from a judge on Saturday 204 00:10:32,639 --> 00:10:36,039 that stopped or asked to the Trump administration to stop 205 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,000 the deportation flights that were already in the air at 206 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:42,480 already taking place. The President putting out a post on 207 00:10:42,519 --> 00:10:44,240 Truth's Social this morning. I want to read it in 208 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,840 its entirety, and we've got a rare response from Chief 209 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,960 Justice John Roberts to this just moments ago. This is 210 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,240 Trump's post earlier this morning. Quote this radical left lunatic 211 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:59,000 of a judge, a troublemaker and agitator who was sadly 212 00:10:59,039 --> 00:11:02,919 appointed by Barack bak Hussein. Obama was not elected president. 213 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,000 He didn't win the popular vote by a lot. He 214 00:11:06,039 --> 00:11:09,639 didn't win all seven swing states. He didn't win two thousand, 215 00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:13,320 seven hundred and fifty to five hundred and twenty five counties. 216 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,120 He didn't win anything. I won for many reasons in 217 00:11:17,159 --> 00:11:21,440 an overwhelming mandate, but fighting illegal immigration may have been 218 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,559 the number one reason for this historic victory. I'm just 219 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,840 doing what the voters wanted me to do. This judge, 220 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:31,320 like many of the crooked judges I am forced to 221 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,279 appear before, should be impeached. We do not want vicious, 222 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,879 violent and deranged criminals, many of them murderers, in our country. 223 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,039 Make America great again. Ending a quote there from President 224 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:49,039 Trump on truth Social A little after nine o'clock this morning, 225 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,000 and just as we were coming on the air this afternoon, 226 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:56,960 Chief Justice John Roberts has issued a rare public statement 227 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,960 pushing back after this post from pre in Trump calling 228 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,759 for the impeachment of the not only this judge, but 229 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,639 many of the others that he say are. 230 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: In his way. 231 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court said 232 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,679 this quote. For more than two centuries, it has been 233 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:18,480 established that impeachment is not the appropriate response to disagreeing 234 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:23,519 and disagreements concerning a judicial decision, the normal appellate review 235 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:29,480 process exists for that purpose. Now, yesterday we were talking 236 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,039 about and heard from many of you on this idea 237 00:12:32,039 --> 00:12:36,919 of the radical judges that are currently leading the administration around, 238 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,320 and I made the point that at some point, sooner 239 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:43,600 rather than later, Chief Justice John Roberts in the United 240 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:46,320 States Supreme Court is going to have to deal with this. 241 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:50,200 And this response from John Roberts is not what I 242 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,919 think Trump and people were looking for. He says in 243 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,039 his statement that impeachment isn't the process. It's to go 244 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,279 through the normal appellates. That's exactly the issue. While this 245 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,519 is going through the normal appellate process, you have got 246 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:12,720 unelected judges, district court judges not authorized in the Constitution, 247 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,279 that are deciding how in which the executive branch can operate. 248 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,919 And let's not act like this normal appellate process is 249 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,960 something that just happens overnight. I mean, case in point, 250 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,440 look at what's going on here in North Carolina with 251 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,639 the Supreme Court race between judge Appeals Court Judge Jefferson 252 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,600 Griffin and current Supreme Court Justice Allison Riggs. That election 253 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:38,360 was in November of last year, that we still don't 254 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,000 have a certified winner or arguments take place in the 255 00:13:42,519 --> 00:13:46,759 Appeals Court this Friday, and no matter who ends up winning, 256 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:49,279 that that decision is going to be appealed to the 257 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,879 state's Supreme Court, where the clock will restart again. I mean, 258 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:55,879 there's a very strong possibility that as we get into 259 00:13:55,919 --> 00:13:59,679 the middle lattern end of April, we still don't know 260 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:02,720 who is going to be a certified by the Board 261 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:06,440 of Elections for that Supreme Court seat. The election was 262 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:12,919 in November, and so John Roberts response to Trump's post that, oh, 263 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,679 you just gotta follow the process is absurd. No process 264 00:14:17,799 --> 00:14:21,480 is being followed here. You have got judges that are 265 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,919 overstepping their authority and stepping on the powers of the 266 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:31,279 executive branch with no constitutional basis and really nothing to 267 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,639 point out except for the fact that, well, we're gonna 268 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:37,320 just issue a temporary stay. We're just gonna issue a 269 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,080 temporary hold. Don't worry about it. Just follow the normal process. 270 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,320 What's the normal process here? Every executive action that comes 271 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,679 out of this White House is sued or is brought 272 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,759 to suit by the ACLU or some other left wing group, 273 00:14:53,919 --> 00:14:58,000 and a Democrat judge immediately puts a temporary blocker stay 274 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:02,159 on it. That is anything but the normal process. These 275 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,240 are frivolous lawsuits. There is no basis, There is no 276 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:11,559 constitutional authority in most of these cases that have been 277 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:14,360 brought up over the last sixty days since Trump's been 278 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:18,480 in the Oval office. John Roberts has got a real 279 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:20,600 mess on his hands here, and I guess if he's 280 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,320 unwilling to do anything, then going back to some audio 281 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,679 from New Gingrich over the weekend that played for you yesterday. 282 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:30,679 If you missed the show, you check out the Pete 283 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:33,320 Calender Show podcast and listen to that. It's time for 284 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,279 Congress to step in, haul these judges in front of 285 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,600 a joint hearing of the House and the Senate and 286 00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:42,759 have them justify their actions. Have them justify and point 287 00:15:42,799 --> 00:15:46,399 out in statute in law in the Constitution where they 288 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:49,519 have the authority over the executive branch. 289 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: It's as simple as that. 290 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:54,679 Speaker 2: If these judges want to misbehave, if they want to 291 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,039 act as if they are the individuals sitting in the 292 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:00,759 Oval office, they are the ones that are the chief 293 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:04,360 executive of the United States, then make them prove it. 294 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,440 And if they can do so great, everybody will stop 295 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,279 talking about it. 296 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: But they can't. 297 00:16:09,399 --> 00:16:12,159 Speaker 2: Because there is no legal authority, there is no grounds 298 00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:16,080 to what they're doing. They're acting in a hyperpartisan manner. 299 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,639 Trump rightfully so calls them out. This response from John 300 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Roberts is a joke. And I guess for individuals that 301 00:16:22,519 --> 00:16:24,759 have followed the court over the last couple of years, 302 00:16:24,919 --> 00:16:27,240 you're really not shocked by this. 303 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: This is just a weak, weak. 304 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: Response from Chief Justice John Roberts, very very disappointing in them, 305 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:36,039 in him, I guess maybe my hopes shouldn't have been 306 00:16:36,039 --> 00:16:36,879 any higher than that. 307 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,919 Speaker 1: Here's a great idea. 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I kind of set 330 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:56,599 the stage for you yesterday morning or yesterday afternoon, rather 331 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,240 as this battle over activist judging is that are stopping 332 00:18:01,599 --> 00:18:05,880 the current administration from using their executive authority to, as 333 00:18:06,079 --> 00:18:08,880 Trump claimed in a statement earlier this morning, do things 334 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,400 that he was elected to do, like deal with immigration 335 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,559 over the last thirty minutes or so, Chief Justice John 336 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,759 Roberts released this statement saying, quote, for more than two centuries, 337 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:22,279 it has been established that impeachment is not the appropriate 338 00:18:22,319 --> 00:18:27,440 response to disagreements concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate 339 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:33,079 review process exists for that purpose. As I think a 340 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:38,079 very week week response from Chief Justice John Roberts, this 341 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,680 is a major issue that this country is going to 342 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,279 face from a philosophical question as to how we handle 343 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,880 powers of branches and powers of government going forward. In 344 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:54,240 his responses, you know, just follow the normal process. Just 345 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:59,039 follow it, right. It's as simple as that seven four 346 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:01,759 or five seven eleven ten is our hotline. That's seven 347 00:19:01,759 --> 00:19:04,799 oh four or five seven eleven ten. Let's head on 348 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:06,720 over to line two. Ray is hanging on the line. 349 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 4: Ray. Good afternoon on the Peak Counter Show with Nick Craig. 350 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:09,519 What's going on? 351 00:19:10,519 --> 00:19:15,799 Speaker 5: Hello, Nick? Yeah, I watched that interview with Nick Gingrich 352 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,559 with Martin Levin the other night, and it would seem 353 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:25,640 to me that there's nothing to appeal as John Roberts. 354 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,240 But it because this didn't go through a you know, 355 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,960 arguments from two attorneys from both sides. It just seemed 356 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,200 to me like you know, how can you appeal like 357 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:41,759 a tyrannical judge making a decision like he's the president. 358 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:50,920 And also I think that Trump is causing the judicial system, 359 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:54,519 in particular the Supreme Court and John Roberts to have 360 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,599 to to have to face and deal with things like 361 00:19:57,799 --> 00:20:01,720 other parts of the government. And you know, he's it's 362 00:20:01,759 --> 00:20:05,640 just enough people all the way around. That's about my comment. 363 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: Well, you make a very good point there, and I 364 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:11,319 talked about this yesterday. For example, this decision that we 365 00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:14,559 were talking about over the weekend where this judge decided 366 00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:17,480 that it was under he had the authority to stop 367 00:20:17,519 --> 00:20:22,200 the president's attempts to deport individuals to foreign countries. This 368 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,839 was not a hearing airy decision in which he ruled 369 00:20:25,839 --> 00:20:28,799 on the merits of the case, as you as you note, Ray, 370 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:33,240 he he issued a temporary stay immediately stopping this without 371 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,559 arguments from both sides, without any due process on the 372 00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:37,240 issue at all. 373 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 4: That's not the system. There's nothing to. 374 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 5: Appeal, right, it was a no decision. It was just 375 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:44,480 you know. 376 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,559 Speaker 2: What you just said, it's it's a it's a situation 377 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,279 that's unfolding right now. Appreciate the call of this afternoon 378 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,240 right at seven oh four five, seven eleven ten. It's 379 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,319 a situation where there is no due process because a 380 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:03,640 decision has not been made, there's nothing to appeal. There's 381 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,799 a temporary stay in place. And as we know, the 382 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,759 wheels of justice, as I like to call him, the 383 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,240 very slow moving wheels of justice, do not handle these 384 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,640 issues expeditiously. And as I mentioned in the last segment, 385 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,640 using the North Carolina Supreme Court race as a great example, 386 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,480 that election was in November of last year. We're still 387 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:27,680 not even at the state Supreme Court. We're in the 388 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,559 appeals court where oral arguments are taking place this Friday, 389 00:21:32,039 --> 00:21:35,119 it's the twenty first. We've got less than two weeks 390 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,240 left in the month of March, and we don't even 391 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:39,640 have a decision as to who won that race yet. 392 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:44,359 So how is John Roberts comments about ah, oh, you 393 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,920 just got to follow the normal process. That doesn't make 394 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,279 any sense to me at all. He is completely missing 395 00:21:50,319 --> 00:21:53,160 the mark here, and it's because I truly believe he 396 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,319 probably doesn't want to deal with the issue. And to 397 00:21:56,759 --> 00:21:59,839 raise point, Trump is is going to end up forcing 398 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:02,160 the hand of the Supreme Court one way or the other. 399 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:06,000 This the battle is being set up. The stage is 400 00:22:06,039 --> 00:22:10,039 being set up right now where the executive branch aka 401 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,440 the current Trump administration is just gonna flat out start 402 00:22:13,519 --> 00:22:17,640 ignoring these appellate judges and these district judges and just 403 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,960 say no, we're just not gonna do it. 404 00:22:19,519 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 4: Take me to the Supreme Court, and then. 405 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: We'll go forward with your with with with the case 406 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,599 at hand, the arguments that are going to be made. 407 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,119 That's how this is shaping out to play right now. 408 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,119 Back to our phone lines at seven oh four or five, 409 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,640 seven eleven ten, Brian is hanging online. One Brian, Welcome 410 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,599 to the Pete counter Show with Nick Craig. Good afternoon. 411 00:22:39,079 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like things like that the judge is 412 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,920 exercising his authority because due process wasn't wasn't And I 413 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,720 think that's what John Robinson is saying. When you're saying 414 00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:53,400 we'll go through the ordinary process, is due process because 415 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,200 you have legal aliens in the country. They still have 416 00:22:56,759 --> 00:22:59,400 right in this country because we're in the United States. 417 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:02,119 That's why we are superior to other countries. So we 418 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,880 still have due process with that. Even though the executive 419 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,359 branch is saying, hey, we want to kick these people out. 420 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:09,200 You can kick them out, but you still have to 421 00:23:09,279 --> 00:23:12,440 kick them out in an orderly and functional fashion that 422 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,680 represents our statute and laws. So agreed by the judge. 423 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,440 Probably did that. 424 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 4: Well, I agree with you. 425 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: But that's where this issue comes up, and that's where 426 00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:26,200 the discussion about due process is really taking case. Because 427 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,960 the merits of this case, as I noted, had not 428 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,839 been and were not and still to this morning, have 429 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,599 not played out in the district court level. You have 430 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,400 a shotgun decision by a judge to put a temporary 431 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,799 stay on the executive branch, which unfortunately has happened a 432 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:45,880 whole bunch of times over the last sixty days. It's 433 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,599 happening with almost every executive order that this administration is 434 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,440 bringing forward. 435 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, because the executive branches run them up. It's not 436 00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:57,319 adhering to what the laws of the land are. So 437 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,880 what laws we still have to adhere to the laws 438 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:00,599 the land? 439 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,559 Speaker 2: I hear you, Brian, So and this this is where 440 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:06,240 the frustration boils over. I think for a lot of people. 441 00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:09,680 The judge in his ruling on Saturday, did not point 442 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,079 to anything illegally that the president was doing. He issued 443 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,440 a temporary stay, a temporary restraining of gorder against the decision. 444 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,480 He did not rule that Trump didn't have the authority. 445 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,319 He did not rule that the executive branch doesn't have 446 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,519 the authority. He decided that himself without hearing arguments from 447 00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:31,960 both sides. And for the talk of due process, there's 448 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,519 no due process right now. There's a temporary stay in 449 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:37,599 place until this just judge decides to hear the case. 450 00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:39,519 Speaker 7: Right. 451 00:24:39,559 --> 00:24:42,279 Speaker 6: Well, well, you know what I'm saying. You probably have 452 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,599 you can probably have corrections on both sides. But you know, 453 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:48,000 the thing about it is, I mean, I don't know, man. 454 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:51,559 It seems like those folks that that cheer for President 455 00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:55,480 Trump or allied which President Trump, want to make him 456 00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:57,680 a king of our country, and that's not what most 457 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,960 citizens want. We still have to follow the law, and 458 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,799 that's all we're saying. Now. You know, we you have 459 00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:06,759 some cities that agree, which is immigrating policies and all 460 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:09,119 that stuff, and that's fine. You know, they voted him 461 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,640 into those purposes. But you still have to follow the law. 462 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,640 That's all I'm saying. But thank you, and I appreciate it. 463 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 4: I appreciate your colin. I agree. 464 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,759 Speaker 2: I think the president absolutely needs to follow the law. 465 00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:20,960 And it's part of going back to the comments from 466 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:24,000 New Gingrich over the weekend. These judges need to be 467 00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:28,200 able to explain where in the Constitution where the president 468 00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:30,839 is in fact breaking the law. If they're going to 469 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,119 issue these temporary stays and they are going to completely 470 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:38,039 gum up the executive branch in their authority, that's I 471 00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:40,160 think what That's what I'm asking for. I can't speak 472 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,599 for every single person. I'd love to hear your thoughts 473 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,000 on it. Seven oh four or five, seven oh eleven, ten. 474 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,559 I don't think. I don't know that I need all 475 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:50,440 of this to play out. I just want to know 476 00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:54,440 why a judge is making this decision a shotgun quick decision. 477 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,880 If this is going on, where is the authority laid there? 478 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,400 Because if we want to talk about due is, if 479 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,920 we want to talk about following the law, then I 480 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,079 think we need to do it across the board, not 481 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,599 just selectively. And oh Trump is people want Trump to 482 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,039 be a king, so everything he does therefore needs to 483 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:13,079 be blocked by the courts. 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That US district 512 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,960 judge in James Bozenberg, who is the Chief Justice of 513 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,400 the United States Court of State Court for the District 514 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,680 of Columbia, is the individual in question. Now, in the 515 00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:03,359 last break, I was looking at X and I see 516 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,519 a post here from Congressman Brandon Gill, who is out 517 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:11,279 of Texas's twenty second, twenty sixth rather congressional district. He 518 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,400 has filed and introduced articles of impeachment against the judge. 519 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,440 So that response is going on. Trump is calling for 520 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,000 the impeachment. John Roberts says, everybody, stop, it's called due process. 521 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,039 Speaker 4: Just follow it. 522 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,519 Speaker 2: This is a train wreck happening right before our very 523 00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:30,440 eyes this morning. Let's jump back to the phone lines. 524 00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,480 This afternoon, We've got a bill hanging online for Bill. 525 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Good afternoon, You're on the Peak Calendar Show with Nick Craig. 526 00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:42,119 What's going on? Billy there? All right, let's move on 527 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,359 to head on over to line one. Brian, Good afternoon. 528 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,039 You are on the Peak Counter Show with Nick Craig. 529 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:48,799 Good good afternoon. 530 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,799 Speaker 7: Hi, Hi Nick, thanks for taking my call. I just 531 00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:55,640 had a comment from your previous caller who was His 532 00:28:56,839 --> 00:28:59,680 topic was about following the law that the president of 533 00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:03,240 night States has to follow the law. Sure were Where 534 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:06,640 was everybody when all this of legal immigration was going 535 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,160 on under the Buying administration? How come he didn't follow 536 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920 the law? Where was the outrage in that? 537 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: I think you are pointing out exactly the issue, Brian. There, 538 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:21,000 It wasn't any outrage in it, because it's all selective outrage. Unfortunately, 539 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,119 that's the system that we live in right now. It's 540 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,799 all selective and individuals decide whether they agree with the 541 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,880 law or not and if they're going to enforce it 542 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,240 or not. And regardless of what political party you're affiliated 543 00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:34,799 with are associated with, you should find that to be 544 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,759 highly problematic for our nation going forward. 545 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 7: Absolutely, there's no consistency. 546 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: No, there's not, There's there's none at all. 547 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: And that's exactly I think why Trump is going to 548 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,000 allow this battle to play out a great point this afternoon, Brian, 549 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,759 appreciate the call at seven oh four five seven oh 550 00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:53,039 eleven ten. That's seven oh four five seven oh eleven ten. 551 00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,400 Trump is going to bring this battle to the Supreme Court, 552 00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:57,759 whether they want to deal with it or not. John 553 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:01,720 Roberts' response is a laughing stock to joke. He's not 554 00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:04,519 taking the issue seriously at all, and I don't know why. 555 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,480 Regardless of your political party, you should be highly concerned 556 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,279 that unelected judges are making decisions as to how the 557 00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:17,440 executive branch can operate without due process. They are making 558 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,319 these decisions without laying out to the American people, laying 559 00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:25,079 out to the executive branch what the issue actually is. 560 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. 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